1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 2 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 2: That's right, and we're broadcasting live from the tire rack 3 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 2: dot com studios tire iraq dot com. We'll help you 4 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:11,879 Speaker 2: get there with the unmaxed election, fast free shipping. Fre 5 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 2: road has a protection and over ten thousand recommend to 6 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 2: his dollars tire iraq dot com. It's the way that 7 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:20,239 Speaker 2: tire buying should be. We got a lot on the 8 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:22,920 Speaker 2: floor today, NFL moves happening. 9 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: It's not even quite free agency yet. But you couldn't 10 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 1: tell the rest of the league because I tell you what. 11 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 2: People are getting traded, people getting cut, people got permission 12 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 2: to go talk to other teams. But if you hear 13 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 2: a squeal or a squelch or one of those type 14 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:38,480 Speaker 2: of noises, it is because my co host right here 15 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 2: is locked in on what is this though. One of 16 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 2: these Saturday games, North Carolina and Duke top ten matchup 17 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 2: in the ACC is Philipowski hits a nice little move 18 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 2: in the paint. 19 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:51,319 Speaker 3: But that was where, according to him, the good guy 20 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 3: still win it. 21 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 1: Of course, the good guys still winning man fifty two 22 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 1: to forty five for my mighty heels. You know what 23 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 1: I'm saying. We got this game. Man, I'm surprised Philipowski 24 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 1: is still in this game. As he lifted his leg 25 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 1: and tried to trip Ingram and cut his legs from 26 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 1: him in the open court in the first half. Referees 27 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:08,319 Speaker 1: went over and talked to him on the bench, but 28 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 1: it was too late. After that that should have been 29 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 1: you should have been thrown out of the game. It 30 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 1: amazes me why dude continues to have players that like 31 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: they use their feet on people, all the way back 32 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:18,759 Speaker 1: to Christian Latner. And then we know what Grayson Allen 33 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 1: used to do when he played with Philipowski, pulled the 34 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 1: same bush league move like that. Man, really had me 35 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:26,839 Speaker 1: hot at home watching this before I came in. But 36 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 1: Carolina's just fine. At the end of the day, win 37 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 1: or lose. Were acc regular season champions. We either tie 38 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 1: and share it with them or belongs to us by ourself. 39 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: By what the outcome of this game is. As Amando 40 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 1: gets another bucket, Carolina goes back up by now, but 41 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 1: Duke Gain got none for it. If the reps don't 42 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 1: help them, they're not winning this game. You know, Grayson Allen, 43 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: speaking of the mister tripp himself, you know he's like 44 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 1: leading the league in three point Night. 45 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 3: He's he's made. 46 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 1: He's cut out a nice NBA career for himself, much 47 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 1: like much like a JJ Reddick, same type of player, 48 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: from the same school, Austin River, Austin Rivers played more 49 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: than a decade in the NBA. Duke, if your guard, 50 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 1: and they shoot a lot of threes at Duke. If 51 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 1: you get to the league, if you can half ass 52 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: defend and you take the game seriously, you take being 53 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 1: a pro seriously, you hustle, you improve your game, and 54 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 1: you half ass defend, you will last a little while 55 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: in the NBA when you come out of Duke. It's 56 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 1: not they don't normally get guards that play wise. Normally 57 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 1: they're more wing forward, small four type guys. Your Ingrams 58 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: you Tatum, And then we know Zion Williamson was missed 59 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 1: the All World do everything coming out of high school. 60 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:34,919 Speaker 1: He's still in the league and probably will be for 61 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 1: the next decade. 62 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 2: But yeah, last Duke mentioned, I have until we talk 63 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 2: about with this game more. You know who Chris Douhan, 64 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 2: former Duke point guard from side of the Louisiana You 65 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:46,799 Speaker 2: talking about to shoot free throws and I was a kid, Okay, 66 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:48,079 Speaker 2: Douhan was a good guard man. 67 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 1: Douhan was on that squad with j Will and uh 68 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 1: Baddia and Boozer, that little run that they had there 69 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:56,359 Speaker 1: where Duke was really really good and do Duhan was 70 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:59,919 Speaker 1: a good guard man. And he was a serviceable NBA 71 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 1: play back up to you know, sometimes starting guard like 72 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 1: but he can hit the three and he would at 73 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:07,359 Speaker 1: least half as defend. You can buy yourself a ten 74 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 1: year deal in the NBA. You can played for ten 75 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 1: years if you can do that. 76 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 2: And I was about to say, I'll think about a 77 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 2: double digit year career Chris Duhan in part with the 78 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 2: Chicago Bulls. But that is done. That's enough of that 79 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 2: walk down memory lane for me. Sorry about that. As 80 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 2: you can see, he obviously didn't shoot me how to 81 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 2: teach me how to shoot free throws, well enough, because 82 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 2: I probably would be doing that instead of talking to 83 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 2: you find folks. But here we are, nonetheless, uh but 84 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 2: the news of the day so far as the Denver 85 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 2: Broncos continually making their moves. Now, none of this is 86 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 2: official until March thirteenth, which is I kind of love 87 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 2: it because we already had I mean, I've been reporting 88 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 2: it on Fox Sports Radio all Dog on Day, like 89 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 2: it's a done deal. Jerry Judy put a farewell video 90 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 2: out already, but none of this can be officially done 91 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 2: until March thirteenth, when the new league year starts and 92 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 2: teams are forced to be under the clock under the cap. 93 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 3: We'll also see Monday. 94 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 2: I've heard Adam Kaplan earlier today with Steve Hartman and 95 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 2: Cary Roads say expect anywhere from twenty five to thirty 96 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 2: deals done in agreement, like done in principal come Monday night. 97 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 3: However, one deal that has agreed to in principal right now. 98 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 2: Jerry Judy moving on to the Cleveland Browns from the 99 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:19,719 Speaker 2: Denver Broncos. Who I mean, star in college, not so 100 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 2: much in the NFL so far. I think his biggest 101 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:24,599 Speaker 2: NFL moment was either the three touchdown game of versus 102 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:28,720 Speaker 2: the Chiefs, or when Steve Smith said Steve Smith kind 103 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 2: of called him out after he apparently ignored him in 104 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 2: the in the pregame pregame moment on one of those 105 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:40,280 Speaker 2: Thursday night games. You remember that. So Jerry Judy goes 106 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:42,599 Speaker 2: for a fifth round pick and a sixth round pick 107 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 2: from the Cleveland Browns, and. 108 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 3: I saw this report come down earlier today. 109 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:48,599 Speaker 2: All I could do is laugh at it, honestly, But 110 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:50,839 Speaker 2: it was about how I think it was from Albert Breer, 111 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 2: who's a friend of Fox Sports Radio. But Albert Breer 112 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 2: was saying how Jerry Judy, being from South Florida, had 113 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 2: just basically monopolized and copied his game off of a 114 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:06,039 Speaker 2: MARII Cooper right, and that you know now that he's 115 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 2: going to Cleveland, they expected kind of an Amari Cooper 116 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 2: type outlook, and I'm just like, look, Amari Cooper is 117 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:13,840 Speaker 2: a top ten receiver in this league give or take 118 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:16,840 Speaker 2: the year, if not to me, a real number one 119 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:20,040 Speaker 2: ride receiver. Jerry Judy has never shown that in his career. 120 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 2: I wish him the best of luck in Cleveland, but 121 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 2: this to me is uh. I want to say much 122 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 2: ado about nothing, but I think it's a bigger story 123 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:30,479 Speaker 2: about how the Broncos are tearing everything down than what 124 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 2: Jerry Judy will do with the Browns. 125 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 1: I'm glad mister Breer said that great minds thick of 126 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 1: light because the minute I saw this, I thought, okay, 127 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 1: I actually liked this for Jerry Judy. I know Jerry 128 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 1: Judy's been beat upon by Steve Smith and a lot 129 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 1: of the radio TV you know, Lou Mouse and pundits 130 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 1: and whatever you guys were talking heads, whatever adjective to 131 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:51,280 Speaker 1: describe what you guys want to use for any certain 132 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 1: day of the week. But I like this move for 133 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: Jerry Judy because of Amari Cooper. I immediately thought, Okay, well, 134 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 1: at least he gets with a big bro vet from 135 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 1: the same program as him, knows him because when they 136 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 1: were recruiting, I'm pretty sure on his visits he was 137 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 1: around Amari Cooper, grew up wanting to be like Amari Cooper. 138 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:10,280 Speaker 1: Obviously if he patterned his game after him, I think 139 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:12,919 Speaker 1: this could be a move that will work out for 140 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 1: both teams, maybe in the long run, but I think 141 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 1: it works out for Jerry Judy immediately. He needed a 142 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 1: fresh start. Sometimes you just need that in life. You 143 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:23,839 Speaker 1: need to get away from the team you're on, especially 144 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 1: in pro sports. You just need a fresh start. Man. 145 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:29,480 Speaker 1: And it's it's nothing against the team you're leave, It's 146 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 1: it's about you. And I feel this for him. You 147 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: didn't want to be there. Sean Payton in the front 148 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:36,280 Speaker 1: office is cleaning house. This is what happens when you 149 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:38,919 Speaker 1: have over eighty million dollars in dead money, you gotta 150 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 1: start cutting guys, and you gotta start trading guys, and 151 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:45,840 Speaker 1: oh my goodness, gracious and all Pro and in eight 152 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 1: year it ain't like he's in his eleventh, twelfth third, 153 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:49,839 Speaker 1: so he've been eight years, but he's been. He's a 154 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 1: former All Pro. He's one of the better safeties, are 155 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 1: best all around safeties in football. But you have to 156 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:57,599 Speaker 1: let a guy like that go and he will be 157 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 1: highly sought after in free agent. But when you have 158 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 1: eighty million plus and dead money, these are the type 159 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:08,279 Speaker 1: of wholesale moves you're gonna see. But I like this 160 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 1: for Judy a lot. It helps out Cleveland's offense. It 161 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 1: gives the Shawn Watson another passing target, and like I said, 162 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 1: it gets him with with somebody that can probably help 163 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 1: him out. I stick his locker right next to Marie 164 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 1: Cooper and you tell him, Hey, you work. 165 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 3: Out with this guy, you eat with this guy. 166 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 1: You sleep around, You sleep in the same house. You 167 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 1: gotta sleep under the same roof. Yeah, almost slipt up. 168 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 1: You sleep under the same roof. You know, train like him, 169 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 1: run like him, do every follow this guy, and you 170 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: go to Marik Cooper if you're the Browns front officer 171 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 1: and say, hey, I'm pretty sure this this was talked 172 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: about all righty by hey got low bro for you 173 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 1: take care of them force, and I think Marik Cooper's 174 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 1: gonna do that. I like this initially for Jered. 175 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the idea that he needed to change 176 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 2: the scenery is absolutely true. And when you sign a 177 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 2: contract like the one that Sean Payton signed in Denver, 178 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 2: you are I mean to get the money and the 179 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 2: length that he got, Like I try to put yourself 180 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 2: in the interview right because obviously they swung and miss 181 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 2: with the Daniel Hackett. But Sam Payton comes in here 182 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 2: and he's like, look guys, this isn't a year two, 183 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 2: three year. This is going to be three years, four 184 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 2: years before we see something substantive here. That's how he's 185 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 2: able to, you know, make a move like getting rid 186 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 2: of Russell Wilson because he knows he does not have 187 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 2: to protect his desk like you know, protecting neck. 188 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 3: He's good. 189 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 2: His desk is going to be there for at least 190 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:30,559 Speaker 2: the next two or three seasons. He's got enough time 191 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 2: to see because the Bronco's getting two picks back for 192 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 2: Jerry Judy, saving twelve million dollars in cap space, so 193 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 2: he's able to take those picks. Turn him into something, buddy, 194 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 2: cause you're gonna have to because the only way that 195 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 2: the Broncos are going to be competitive going forward, because 196 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 2: this is not the last move that they will make. 197 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:49,680 Speaker 1: It absolutely Like we were. 198 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:51,320 Speaker 2: Talking to Ryan McFadden and we were filling in for 199 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 2: Jason Smith and Mike Harmon, Like he predicted that Justin 200 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 2: Simmons could be on the trading block. I could be 201 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 2: on the cutting block, trading block. Jerry Judy the same. 202 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 2: Wouldn't be surprised see Courtland Sutton sliding out of there 203 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 2: and cleaning house like that. Goodness crazious. They're looking at 204 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 2: a five one season. You don't have a quarterback. 205 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:12,440 Speaker 1: If one of these guys don't slot to you at twelve, 206 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 1: if they decide to do something different at twelve in 207 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 1: the draft. This could be a reset year. And I 208 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: think Peyton's allowed that because it's like, okay, first year, 209 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 1: it is what it is. Listen, I need a reset year. 210 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 1: This feels like, man, this feels like a reset year. 211 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 1: And look at that five or six wins you talk 212 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:30,359 Speaker 1: about cutting Sutton too, Like, wow. 213 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 2: Well that's what the thing is so right, Like, you 214 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:34,839 Speaker 2: look at the Houston Texans from last year. Right, they 215 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 2: were a terrible team going into last year's draft, got 216 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 2: only had with three and fourteen on the season. Right, 217 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 2: they fill out the roster with rookies who are continually playing. 218 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 2: Right then and there they compete for a playoff spot 219 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 2: and ultimately get it. 220 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 3: That's what it's gonna have to be in Denver going forward. 221 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 2: You're gonna have to hit on your fifth round wide 222 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:56,680 Speaker 2: receiver like Tank Dell hit on both their first round picks. 223 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 2: If you have you know what I'm saying. If you're 224 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 2: the Broncos, you'll see more of these moves happen. Essentially 225 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 2: because they can't afford to go sign free agents, They're 226 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 2: gonna have to do it through the draft. They're gonna 227 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 2: have to do it through the scrap people of guys 228 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 2: that they weren't interested in. 229 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 3: You'll see fifth and six round picks. 230 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 2: You could be a rookie out there right now playing 231 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:16,440 Speaker 2: for the Denver Broncos because I mean, like Marvin MEMSs 232 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 2: will be there. He was I know they wanted to 233 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 2: get him more involved in the offense, as he was 234 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 2: a dynamic punk returning for them. But ultimately these moves 235 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 2: are made for cap cutting reasons. 236 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 3: So what does that mean? What's the solution to that? 237 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 1: If you're way over the cap, you have to got 238 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 1: to hit on your rookies, You've got to hit on 239 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:38,199 Speaker 1: your draft picks, you've got to hit on your undrafted 240 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 1: free agents because those guys are gonna be cost controlled 241 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 1: for X amount of years and you can maneuver around that. 242 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 3: So let me ask you this. 243 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:49,839 Speaker 2: Let's say that the drafts are that go kind of 244 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 2: the way that people have been mocking it, with the 245 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 2: first three picks being Kayleb Williams, Drake Maye, Jayden Daniels. 246 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 3: Right, So Denver picks at twelve, and let's. 247 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 2: Say the Raiders at eleven, right, are the Raiders at 248 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 2: thirteenth the Raiders at thirteen? Like, do you think that 249 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 2: you will see either one of these teams take a 250 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:11,960 Speaker 2: quarterback at twelve or thirteen knowing the division that they're 251 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:14,679 Speaker 2: in with Justin Herbin and Patrick Mahomes. 252 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 1: It all depends on what the Giants decide to do. 253 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 1: A six six is my lynch pin to screw up 254 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:25,559 Speaker 1: everyone's mock draft within the first fifteen to twenty picks. 255 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 1: If the Giants decide to slide out and let either 256 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 1: Denver are the Raiders slide up there, then there's gonna 257 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 1: be four quarterbacks that are gonna go in the top. 258 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:39,559 Speaker 1: Then it puts the pressure on either the Raiders at 259 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 1: thirteen or the Broncos. Whatever one of those teams slides 260 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 1: up it decides to come up and get a guy, 261 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 1: then the other team's gonna have to react fast because 262 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 1: you still just have Aidan O'Connell. And with the Vegas Raiders, 263 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:54,439 Speaker 1: so they're gonna need a future quarterback or franchise guy 264 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 1: they feel like can carry them. So what happens at 265 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 1: six is gonna tell me it's gonna happen between twelve 266 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 1: and thirteen with the Broncos in the Ragers. If if 267 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 1: I'm the Giants, I slide out, If I'm the Giants, 268 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: I slide out, you're already playing Danny Dimes that money. 269 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:14,319 Speaker 1: I'd slide out and accumulate more picks because you're gonna 270 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 1: need an early first round pick next year to get 271 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 1: your next quarterback, because I don't think Danny Dimes is 272 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 1: gonna be their starting quarterback in twenty twenty five. He 273 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:24,079 Speaker 1: is now in twenty twenty four, twenty twenty five. You're 274 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 1: gonna need a high first round pick. Why not go 275 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 1: ahead and swap slide out, Let one of those guys 276 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 1: slide up, and then say, yeah, but we get your 277 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 1: first round pick next year that lands you in the 278 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 1: top five, top six. Then you can still find your 279 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 1: quarterback because we always have a bunch of them every year. Right, 280 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 1: we love three or four guys in the first round 281 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 1: every year. So number six is the lynch pin for me, Martin. 282 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 2: And then the thing to that point, let's say you 283 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 2: make that trade, then you have a decent year allah 284 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 2: the number one pick. This year the Chicago Bears, that 285 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 2: team won like seven games, eight games, like they were 286 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 2: out on the outside of looking here because I'm poorly 287 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 2: they started the season. 288 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 3: But they shouldn't be picking number one. No, but they 289 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:00,079 Speaker 3: picked number one. 290 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 1: Because they're like, oh, you want probably young because we don't. 291 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You want CJ. 292 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 2: Stroud because we don't. We're good. We'll move out you guys, 293 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 2: go ahead and take them. It's just gonna cost the 294 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:12,680 Speaker 2: Kings ransom. Now look at it. They got their pick 295 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 2: of the litter, whether they chose to draft Caleb Williams 296 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 2: choose to trade down. Still, you got the number one 297 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:20,679 Speaker 2: pick in the draft that everybody wants the number one 298 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 2: pick in. So just like trading down is obviously the 299 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 2: best option if you can make it, the only problem 300 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 2: is to trading down, you gotta find a partner to 301 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:28,680 Speaker 2: trade up with. 302 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:31,439 Speaker 1: Also really fast. Look for New England, I have this 303 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 1: feeling New England's gonna trade out of three. I just do. 304 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 1: I have this feeling. I don't think they might not 305 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:40,320 Speaker 1: if you can't have Caleb. I just don't think you 306 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 1: want to either settle for Daniels or settle for Drake 307 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:45,440 Speaker 1: May who it's fifty to fifty on both. 308 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 3: Those guys. 309 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 1: Don't beat the Miami Dolphins who drafted Tannehill just because 310 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:53,560 Speaker 1: they needed a quarterback. But he was the last one left, 311 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 1: and those early guys in that first round we got 312 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 1: him at like thirteen fourteen or something. It wasn't in 313 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 1: the top ten. And it's like, you guy that used 314 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 1: to be your receiver and got converted the quarterback to 315 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 1: be your franchise quarterback, and just look how it turned out. 316 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 1: If it don't get desperate in this draft. If you're 317 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 1: if you're New England, something just it feels so New England. 318 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 1: They say, dude, we're not picking number three. We're gonna 319 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 1: slide out, accumulate, nor pick more picks because males got 320 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 1: a little leashed, right. He ain't gotta go win this year. 321 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 1: He can start to rebuild. You start to get more 322 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 1: picks and have another high pick next year like the Giants. 323 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 1: Then you can go get your quarterback after you build 324 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 1: out your roster a little more this year. Coming up next, 325 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 1: we talk about a former Pro Bowl quarterback on the 326 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 1: block Go figure in USA today. NFL expert Tyler Dragon 327 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 1: will join us at the bottom of the hour. Just 328 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 1: like in basketball, a successful game plan starts with the 329 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 1: right players, the team, attractor, supply brigs, hustle at heart. 330 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 2: That's what really sets them apart. 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I think like Wednesday Nights or Thursday Night, Thursday. 363 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 2: Nights, two stylesis Valdez says, he meaning Kyle Philipowski. 364 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 3: He's at his tripping ways again. 365 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 2: I want to hear the same court storming out redge 366 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 2: from the Seth Davises of the World too. This guy 367 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 2: faked an injury during an incident. Now he does this 368 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 2: shaking my head and if you haven't seen that Philipowski trip, uh, 369 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 2: there's really it's it's disgusting. 370 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 3: It's disgusting. I thought it was Draymond Desk. 371 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's disgusting. He looks back. 372 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 2: There there's no way to really, like, you know, Draymondel 373 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 2: says something like, oh, I was flailing my arm. No, 374 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 2: It's like, no, no, no, there's no real reason why Philipowski, 375 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 2: who was on all fours at the opposite free throw 376 00:16:57,360 --> 00:17:00,120 Speaker 2: line is as North Carolina was inbounding the ball for 377 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 2: him to kick his legout, Like the only thing I 378 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:04,199 Speaker 2: can think of is when you're trying to start a 379 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:07,439 Speaker 2: lawnmower back in the day, speaking of tractor supply, when 380 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 2: you're trying to start a lawnmower and you have the 381 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 2: the the room and you rip your arm back and 382 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 2: he's ripped your arm back and your Yeah, that's exactly 383 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 2: what he did with his leg, except he's not mowing 384 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 2: the lawn. 385 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:21,879 Speaker 3: He's playing college basketball. So that's the problem. 386 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. Nah, it was discussing, is what it was. And 387 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:27,399 Speaker 1: and the thing is, these Duke Carolina games get heated, man, 388 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 1: they really do. I've been there. I've been to one 389 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:31,679 Speaker 1: in Carolina, and I've been to one at Duke. I've 390 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:34,359 Speaker 1: been in Cameron sitting behind the bench, close to the floor, 391 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 1: filling that energy. You can cut a detention with a knife. 392 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 1: We didn't sit down in the family section that night. 393 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 1: We didn't sit down when we walked in and got 394 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:46,920 Speaker 1: into the bleachers. We stood the entire game from beginning 395 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 1: and I didn't sit down all night long. And it's 396 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 1: pure and it's great when it's and it's even across 397 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 1: the board. The reps don't get involved, and nobody do 398 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 1: no fuddy duddy stuff. Man, that's the fuddy duddy, that's 399 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 1: the flip flaying fluff I be talking about that's trash 400 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:03,399 Speaker 1: behavior to play ball that way. And he did it 401 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 1: on purpose, tripped the student and then and then flopped 402 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 1: and then his knee was hurt. But he showed up 403 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 1: for the Miami game, looked good there, and then tonight 404 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 1: you pull that crack. Come on, man, you don't even 405 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 1: want that in this game. 406 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 3: Play clean. Best team wins, simple as that. 407 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 2: New Patriots head coach Gerard Mayo and offensive coordinator formerly 408 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 2: of the Cleveland Browns Alex van Felt said, quote everything 409 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 2: is on the table for the New England Patriots, as 410 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 2: VJ was just alluding to saying that they might trade 411 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:32,640 Speaker 2: out of three. Well, one thing they might actually do, 412 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:35,439 Speaker 2: uh is mac Jones is on the trading block. And 413 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 2: it seems as if he's getting a few calls. I'm 414 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 2: not buying that. I don't getting I'm not truly mac Jones. 415 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 2: I'm not thinking about how much calls he's getting. Now, 416 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 2: see last year when you had said that that Max 417 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:50,400 Speaker 2: Dwalts was on the block, he still had two years 418 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:53,440 Speaker 2: left on his rookie deal. Now it's put up a 419 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:55,879 Speaker 2: shut up time because either got to pay him or not. 420 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:58,359 Speaker 1: And in New England is gonna choose the or not 421 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 1: option of that regard. And you know, it's interesting though 422 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:03,920 Speaker 1: I don't know if mac Jones has I mean, I 423 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 1: feel like he is at this point destined to be 424 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 1: a backup. 425 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 3: I was thinking about this though. 426 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 2: Like all the other quarterbacks that are out there, Mac 427 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:13,159 Speaker 2: Jones doesn't get mentioned. 428 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:16,159 Speaker 1: They leave him alone for some reason. 429 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 2: Him and Zach Wilson. I heard, well, I've heard one 430 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 2: report on Zach Wilson this whole offseason as mac Jones 431 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 2: probably on the block here. So I mean, I just 432 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 2: think that maybe this is just the best for everybody. 433 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 2: Go ahead and try to get what you can, but 434 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 2: this is a move where you can't help. But look 435 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:40,159 Speaker 2: at well he was drafted in the top fifteen and 436 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 2: now he just got traded for a fifth round pick. 437 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 3: Bad pick, bad pick. 438 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 1: You can see when he played at college he listen, 439 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 1: I understand that certain quarterbacks put up astronomical numbers. Look 440 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 1: what Joe Burrow did and that year they won a 441 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:59,120 Speaker 1: national championship with with LSU and he had weapons galore. 442 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:02,119 Speaker 1: But you can I still see on the tape a 443 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 1: lot of that was him, and it's shown in the league. 444 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 1: He's been to two AFC Championship games, in the Super 445 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:12,159 Speaker 1: Bowl with the Cincinnati Bengals, who never win nothing. You 446 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:13,919 Speaker 1: can see it with Tour, you can see it with 447 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts. That's why there's still starters in the league. 448 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:19,119 Speaker 1: Tool is taking his team to the playoffs back to 449 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 1: back years. Jalen Hurts was in the Super Bowl. There's 450 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:24,680 Speaker 1: a reason for that. But when you look at this guy, 451 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:27,639 Speaker 1: from the minute he got drafted, his mad walk, I 452 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 1: laughed at like, dude, come on, you're not that guy. 453 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 1: But we'll see when you get to the league. We'll 454 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 1: see what happens when we put the tape on and 455 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:37,439 Speaker 1: put you and put you out there twenty one to 456 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:41,199 Speaker 1: twenty yards, ten touchdowns with twelve picks. Yeah, you're on 457 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 1: the trading block. I got him out of the league 458 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 1: in three years. He may be somebody's back up next 459 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 1: year and maybe the year after that, and then he'll 460 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:51,439 Speaker 1: make a training camp that thirty I'm speaking of, but 461 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:53,680 Speaker 1: will get cut like a week or two or excime 462 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:56,679 Speaker 1: my day or two before kickoff Sunday when they have 463 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:59,399 Speaker 1: to have the fifty three rosters in before that Sunday 464 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:01,640 Speaker 1: at six p m. He'll be cut. He'll be out 465 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 1: of the league. He's not a starting quarterback. They can 466 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 1: make all the excuses they want to make. Form there 467 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 1: not having weapons in this and that. That's not what 468 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:11,639 Speaker 1: I heard. You guys had Devonte Parker when they got 469 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:13,400 Speaker 1: him from Miami. Oh, that was going to be the guy. 470 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:15,399 Speaker 1: How about Mike get SICKI remember you guys signed him 471 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:17,920 Speaker 1: to a one year, two year deal from the Dolphins. Yeah, yeah, 472 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 1: that guy, Like, come on, man, like on the block. Yeah, 473 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 1: he's on the block. I they might end up just 474 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:26,159 Speaker 1: cutting this guy. What are you gonna trade for a 475 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:27,400 Speaker 1: fifth or six. 476 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 2: I mean, that's I think they will be able to 477 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 2: get a fifth or sixth r because especially he's still 478 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:33,680 Speaker 2: on a rookie deal. He's still young, you know, but 479 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:36,879 Speaker 2: he projected me as a backup at this stage of 480 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:37,160 Speaker 2: the game. 481 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:38,919 Speaker 3: This is I just saw this on Reddit. 482 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:41,239 Speaker 2: This is an interesting post said would you trade Mac 483 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:44,360 Speaker 2: Jones weapons today for what he had at Alabama? So 484 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 2: it's Ramond Steevenson versus Najie Harris, Jake Elliott versus Brian Robinson, 485 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 2: Junior Kendrick Bourn versus DeVonta Smith, Juju Smith Houston versus 486 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 2: Jalen Waddle Devonte Parker vers John Metchi, the third at 487 00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 2: Hunter Henry versus Miller Forrestall who's. 488 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 3: Currently on the RAM practice squad. 489 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 2: I would take the Alabama player one, two, three, four, five, six, 490 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 2: seven times out of seven, and I. 491 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:12,360 Speaker 1: Just deal with Hunter Henry, who they just resigned. That's 492 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 1: that's a nice question. Honestly, whoever post that's a cute post. 493 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 1: But guess what, this ain't not Alabama. This is New Pros. 494 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:19,680 Speaker 1: And when you get to the Pros, you don't get 495 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 1: to play with all the top five recruits are five 496 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 1: star guys. You have to play with who the teams draft, 497 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 1: who the team signs, and who the team trades for that. 498 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 1: It's simple as that. Also too, there are they have 499 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 1: been stories in rumblings out of New England that he's Braddy, 500 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 1: that he's he's you know he when a coach is 501 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 1: talking to him, he weighs guys off, kind of rolls 502 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 1: his eyes, kind of he smells entitlement. He looks like 503 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 1: he feels like that entitlement type guy. And it's starting 504 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 1: to show they're gonna move on from You're not that 505 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:47,639 Speaker 1: good and that're they gonna move you. Did you know 506 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 1: discover wants everyone that feels special, even mac Jones. That's 507 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 1: why with your Discover card, do you have access to 508 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:54,680 Speaker 1: twenty four to seven customer service as well as zero 509 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 1: dollars for all liability, which means you're never held responsible 510 00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 1: for and authorized purchases. Learn more discover dot com slash 511 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 1: credit card limitations apply. We'll have Tyler Dragon from the NFL. 512 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 1: I'm sorry from USA today. NFL Inside are coming up next. 513 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 1: But first see if I just saw VJ. Pump his 514 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:10,680 Speaker 1: face was met. North Carolina did something good? 515 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 3: What you got? 516 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 1: Yeah? 517 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:14,199 Speaker 6: Carolina is still leading with about four minutes to go 518 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 6: at Duke seventy two to sixty five. This is the 519 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 6: final weekend of the regular season and men's college hoops. Meanwhile, 520 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:22,359 Speaker 6: for the women, they are in conference tournament play and 521 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:24,919 Speaker 6: number one ranks. South Carolina was trying to go to 522 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:28,359 Speaker 6: thirty one to oh today but trailed with a second 523 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:32,439 Speaker 6: to go against Tennessee and their conference tournament semi in 524 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 6: bounds pass from mid court down two card also for three. 525 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 6: South Carolina still undefeated. It beats Tennessee on that three 526 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 6: pointer at the buzzer on a ESPNU SEC semifinal seventy 527 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:55,679 Speaker 6: four seventy three in the other conference, semi defending champion 528 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,639 Speaker 6: LSU in the third leads forty one to thirty seven 529 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 6: against Old Miss. Number three ranked Iowa easily advanced to 530 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 6: tomorrow's Big Ten Final. In fact, Caitlin Clark of Iowa, 531 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,879 Speaker 6: in twenty eight straight games now has at least twenty 532 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:12,119 Speaker 6: points in five assists, first person since Alan Iverson almost 533 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 6: twenty years ago to do that, be it Division I 534 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 6: men's or women's, or WNBA or NBA player in about 535 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 6: the last twenty years. Now, it's three fifteen to go 536 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 6: and Carolina's game at rival Duke North Carolina men ranked 537 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,439 Speaker 6: seventh in the country, Duke ranked number nine. It is 538 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:32,879 Speaker 6: Carolina leading seventy five to sixty nine to finish up 539 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:37,200 Speaker 6: the regular season campaign on Fox TV. Number two Yukon 540 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 6: was down quickly nine nothing. They're still trailing at Providence 541 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 6: nineteen sixteen mid first half. Thirteenth ranked Auburn still headed 542 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 6: Georgia three minutes to go eighty three to seventy. Number 543 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 6: one Houston pounded Kansas yet another Jayhawks road loss, seventy 544 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:55,400 Speaker 6: six to forty six, and Jayhawks star center Hunter Dickinson 545 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:58,639 Speaker 6: will have an MRI for a dislocated shoulder. Kentucky a 546 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 6: winner at number four ten eighty five eighty one despite 547 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 6: forty points from vallstar Dalton connect Iowa State ranked six 548 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:10,439 Speaker 6: this week, a loser at Kansas State sixty five fifty 549 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 6: eight on Fox TV, A couple of games in the 550 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 6: top ten. Number eight Marquette a winner at Xavier eighty 551 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 6: six eighty. Marquette guard Tyler Kollik out this week, at 552 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:21,719 Speaker 6: least with an oblique injury. He was a preseason All 553 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 6: American tenth thrank. Creighton won at Villanova on a last 554 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 6: second basket sixty nine sixty seven. Texas Tech upset Baylor 555 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:33,359 Speaker 6: Alabama in overtime, beat Arkansas, South Carolina needed overtime to 556 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:37,400 Speaker 6: win at Mississippi State, and Tulsa upset South Florida. As 557 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 6: for the NBA game today in LA, the Clippers beat 558 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:43,679 Speaker 6: Chicago one twelve to one oh two. Meanwhile, Dallas is 559 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:47,359 Speaker 6: looking at perhaps another thirty point triple double from Luka Donsich. 560 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 6: Not yet mid third quarter, Doncich has thirty two points, 561 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:54,639 Speaker 6: six rebounds, six assists. Mavericks lead at Detroit eighty one 562 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,159 Speaker 6: seventy one. If the Pistons lose their record will be 563 00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 6: ten and fifty three on the season. I wanted to 564 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 6: have lost six in a row, but they're winning mid 565 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 6: third quarter against the Nets seventy four to seventy two 566 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 6: despite twenty eight points from Cam Thomas. NHL wins for 567 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:12,119 Speaker 6: Carolina and Florida. Buffalo beat Edmonton in a shootout. Shane 568 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 6: Lowry and Scottie Scheffler tied for the one stroke lead 569 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,359 Speaker 6: at the Arnold Palmer. And yes, the Cleveland Browns are 570 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:21,120 Speaker 6: acquiring wide receiver Jerry Judy from Denver. Our minder. NASCAR 571 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 6: is on Fox TV again this Sunday from Phoenix, three 572 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 6: thirty pm Eastern Time. 573 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:28,359 Speaker 1: Back to you, thanks Steve Martin and bj coming to 574 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 1: your life from a tire rack dot Com Studios. Without 575 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:33,119 Speaker 1: further ado, Let's go ahead and get this gangster party 576 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:33,920 Speaker 1: started with. 577 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:37,880 Speaker 2: One, the one and only Tyler Dragon. He's on Twitter 578 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:40,919 Speaker 2: at X at the Tyler Dragon. Not a Tyler Dragon, 579 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:44,160 Speaker 2: the Tyler Dragon, NFL insider for USA Today. 580 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 3: Tyler, how the hell are you doing? 581 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:48,680 Speaker 7: Pretty good? Battle is a little bit of a cold 582 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 7: right now, but it's Saturday. It's a good weekend. The 583 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:54,120 Speaker 7: weather's nice here in southern California. So I'm doing good. 584 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:54,920 Speaker 7: How are you too doing? 585 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:56,399 Speaker 1: I could hear it in your voice, and I just 586 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 1: want to say, I expect a Michael Jordan flu game 587 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 1: type performance out of you in this segment right now, Tyler. 588 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 2: So the pressure it's on, Pal, it is on now. 589 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,680 Speaker 2: The Denver Broncos have made. I mean, first of all, 590 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,200 Speaker 2: the biggest splash was decided they're going to go ahead 591 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:15,640 Speaker 2: and just outright cut Russell Wilson eighty five million dollars 592 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,199 Speaker 2: coming to dead cap, and since then they've just been 593 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 2: cutting players that we know. Justin Simmons all pro out 594 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:23,919 Speaker 2: of there, Jerry Doody traded for a fifth and a 595 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 2: sixth round pick. 596 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 3: What do you think is the Broncos plan right now? 597 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 2: Has there been one of the more active teams before 598 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 2: free agency even starts. 599 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 7: So I've been hearing and I posted online on Twitter 600 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 7: or x whatever you want to call it today that 601 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 7: the moves that the Broncos have made is an indication 602 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 7: that they're not only blowing things up and starting over 603 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,959 Speaker 7: on the rebuild, but they're going to be in the 604 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 7: market for a quarterback in thiscoming NFL Draft. And it 605 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:56,400 Speaker 7: would not surprise me if they tried to move up 606 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,200 Speaker 7: to take one of the top three quarterbacks available, or 607 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 7: they uh, stay right there, maybe McCarthy's available or quarterback 608 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 7: of that nature. Michael Pennix. So to me, the Broncos 609 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:15,199 Speaker 7: based on letting Simmons walk, you know, letting Russell Wilson go, 610 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:19,440 Speaker 7: They're going to blow things up, start over and to rebuild. 611 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,880 Speaker 7: And what makes better since start over on the rebuild 612 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:26,120 Speaker 7: and to get a new rookie quarterback in there where 613 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:26,919 Speaker 7: you can build around. 614 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 1: Hey, what's up? Talk j Berner Husky here, how's the missus? 615 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 1: And how's the little one doing? Brother? 616 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 7: They're doing way better than me because I'm the one 617 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:34,160 Speaker 7: battling the cold. 618 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 1: Oh don't worry. Is a kid gets over, spreads through 619 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 1: the house, man, That's how it works. And when one 620 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 1: gets it, you know what, we can have. Everybody gonna 621 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 1: be sick at one point, man, So hill up, brother 622 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 1: and get some orders. You're saying, all right, So let's 623 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 1: stick with that theory. Because Martin and I were just 624 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 1: talking in the previous segment. This number six pick for 625 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 1: the Giants is the one I'm hinging on. I'm putting 626 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 1: all my big vanilla chips on this one. To kind 627 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 1: of screw up everyone's mock draft in the top fifteen 628 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 1: picks because the Raiders and the Broncos I think, want 629 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 1: to come up. Like you said, I don't think anybody's 630 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 1: gonna slide back. Someone's coming up to six. The Giants 631 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 1: have Danny Dimes. He's gonna be old forty five mil 632 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 1: next year, so he's not gonna see that money. I 633 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 1: think this is his last year there as their starting quarterback. 634 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 1: Could you see the Giants possibly slotting back getting more 635 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 1: picks because they know they're probably going to be in 636 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 1: the market for quarterback that comes in next year and 637 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 1: help build that team up. So when you get said quarterback, 638 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 1: you have some additional pieces that you worked in some 639 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 1: draft picks. When you think about that number six pick 640 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 1: with the Giants, I. 641 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 8: Believe the two most likely teams to move up or 642 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 8: down in the draft, especially in that top ten, the 643 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 8: LA Chargers and the New York Giants. 644 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 7: To me, I can see both teams trading down to 645 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 7: acquire more assets. But it's interesting he mentioned the Giants 646 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 7: because I've heard the Giants they do not really want 647 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 7: Daniel Jones. They want to move on that quarterback. Yes, 648 00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 7: he's still owed a lot of money. They could try 649 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 7: to draft a quarterback if once lives down and end 650 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 7: up trading Daniel Jones. He does have a little bit 651 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 7: of trade value around the league. He's not a terrible quarterback. 652 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 7: He could start, could be a top tier back up 653 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 7: in the league. So it would not surprise me if 654 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 7: the Giants draft a quarterback or they trade down. But yeah, 655 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 7: I do agree. Likely scenario is the Giants, the Chargers, 656 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 7: or even the Arizona Cardinals, one of those three teams. 657 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 7: I can almost guarantee you will trade down in this 658 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 7: year's draft. 659 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 1: Arizona. I hear that from people, and man, you're really 660 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 1: gonna pass up given Kyler Murray. You're gonna pass up 661 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 1: giving him Marvin Harrison Junior. 662 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:51,000 Speaker 7: Well, they if you if you don't like if you 663 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 7: like Marvel Harrison Jr. And you like a dos A 664 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 7: just as much, or say you like the two receivers 665 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 7: out of LSU just as much or maybe a little 666 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 7: bit less, and you could acquire more assets later on 667 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 7: and maybe the second to third round, or maybe even 668 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 7: acquire another first round pick. I think you have to 669 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 7: consider that strongly. Yes, Marvin Harrison Jr. Is probably the 670 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 7: best receiver in the draft. But if he is that 671 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 7: much better than maybe the next receiver or the top 672 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 7: three receiver he's it's a significant gap between Marvin Harrison Jr. 673 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 7: And probably the next two or three receivers draft. 674 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 1: No, go ahead, No, I was just saying, wow that that. 675 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 1: I just I don't see how anybody these kids We're 676 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,720 Speaker 1: told his kids generational. But you remember before the National 677 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 1: Championship game, we both said we like to those they 678 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 1: better than Marvin Harrison Junior in itself. 679 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 7: Yeah, true, true, But I don't have to agree with me. 680 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 7: But I'm telling you I feel you. 681 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,760 Speaker 1: I just think that you know, I don't see Arizona 682 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 1: passing one of those receivers off. They've got to take 683 00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 1: a receiver for for Kyler. 684 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 7: I mean I I do believe that they probably take Elis, 685 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 7: I mean a receiver. But why don't they They could 686 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 7: trade down a couple of spots and still get neighbors, 687 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 7: bless you, and maybe they get an additional first round pick. 688 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 7: The Cardinals have a whole lot of holes. Their offensive 689 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 7: line is terrible, they don't have no pass rush, their 690 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:25,920 Speaker 7: secondary is depleted. So if I'm Arizona, I try to 691 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 7: acquire a lot of assets because, yes, Kyler Murray and 692 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 7: Marvin Harrison juniors, that will be an excellent combination. But 693 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:34,720 Speaker 7: it's not gonna matter if the other teams scored one 694 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 7: hundred points on you, if you have a lights out 695 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 7: receiver and the outside because the Cardinals they have to 696 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 7: show up their defense as well. 697 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 1: Tyler, let me ask you this real quick, because we've 698 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 1: heard all off season, where's Justin Fields going? 699 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 3: Where's Justin Field's going? Is he a Steeler? 700 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:49,000 Speaker 1: Is he a Falcon? 701 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:49,680 Speaker 3: Is he wherever? 702 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 1: Right? 703 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 3: But I'm just pulled up a head to head stats 704 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 3: with him and mac Jones. 705 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 2: Mac Jones is leading him in every statistical category except 706 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,720 Speaker 2: for anything that has anything to do with rushing the ball, right, 707 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 2: But passing completion of percent, is pass yards, touchdowns, passing. 708 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 3: Yards per game, all of it. 709 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 2: And it seems as if mac Jones's trade value is 710 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 2: about as high as my trade value in the NFL. 711 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 3: What do you make of that? 712 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 7: Well, one the ICs, there is nobody that watches the 713 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,040 Speaker 7: NFL and can tell me that mac Jones is better 714 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 7: than Justin Fields. And then you have to look at 715 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 7: the quarterback ceiling. Which quarterback has more potential? Mac Jones 716 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 7: and Justin Fields. To me, it's pretty obvious Justin Fields 717 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 7: has way more potential than mac Jones. And to me, 718 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 7: Mac Jones last year looked like a broken player. A 719 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 7: lot of that has to do with the structure of 720 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 7: New England offense, in the scheme, and just what he 721 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 7: was going through during that particular season. So I do 722 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 7: believe that the Patriots should trade mac Jones. He needs 723 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 7: a fresh start. I just don't think there's a lot 724 00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,520 Speaker 7: of teams clamoring for his services based on what he 725 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 7: has put on tape. And then you have to look 726 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 7: at he's a quarterback with limitations. He doesn't have the 727 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:10,840 Speaker 7: strongest arm, he's not that mobile. Now he can be 728 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:14,760 Speaker 7: accurate with the football and he can show precision passes, 729 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:18,400 Speaker 7: but he's been up and down throughout his entire NFL career. 730 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:22,520 Speaker 7: And in today's NFL you want quarterbacks that at least 731 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:26,120 Speaker 7: have some potential that you're going to go with, and 732 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,760 Speaker 7: especially if you're going to have a young, inexperienced quarterback 733 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,359 Speaker 7: like mac jill. So that's why Justin Bills has more 734 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:33,160 Speaker 7: trade value. 735 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 2: Well, one guy who's never up and down, that's Tyler Dragon, 736 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,080 Speaker 2: even if he's playing sick like he wants today. That's 737 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:42,440 Speaker 2: a on Twitter slash x as d Tyler Dragon, not 738 00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 2: a Tyler Dragon, the Tyler Dragon from the NFL and 739 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:48,840 Speaker 2: from the USA Today NFL Insider. I'll get it right 740 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,320 Speaker 2: one day. Thanks Tyler, thank you for joining us, my friend. 741 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:53,800 Speaker 7: Of course, thanks for having me. Have a good weekend. 742 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:57,360 Speaker 1: Hey, Tyler, get you some Get you some tea, garlic, honey, lemon, 743 00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:59,880 Speaker 1: and some orange. Boy. You be better brother, Old School. 744 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 1: That's the vanilla recipe right there. Old School coming up next. 745 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:06,520 Speaker 2: I think this is all for social media, but VJ 746 00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 2: has a strong opinion on a fight upcoming. 747 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:11,400 Speaker 3: Martin VJ, Fox Sports Radio. 748 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:16,399 Speaker 1: Don't listen to Fox Sports Radio Radio. Martin VJ coming 749 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,480 Speaker 1: to your life from the Tirack dot Com studios. 750 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:23,320 Speaker 2: So, yeah, I guess you heard this right. Mike Tyson 751 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,160 Speaker 2: back in the ring. He's gonna fight Jake Paul on 752 00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:29,560 Speaker 2: July twentieth at Jerry World in Dallas. And I'm just 753 00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:32,400 Speaker 2: gonna tell you right here, right now, you don't have 754 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:35,360 Speaker 2: to watch, and you don't have to care like you don't. 755 00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:37,359 Speaker 2: You don't, I promise you like there was a fight 756 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:41,600 Speaker 2: last night, uh Francis yesterday one last night. It was 757 00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:45,520 Speaker 2: during the day yesterday yesterday, yesterday morning yesterday. Boy, there 758 00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:47,400 Speaker 2: was a Saudi Arabia somewhere. 759 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:51,040 Speaker 3: That'll do it. Yeah, time change will mess you up. Yeah, 760 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:52,200 Speaker 3: but you know what I'm saying. 761 00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:53,959 Speaker 2: It's just like, if you want to watch a fight, 762 00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:57,640 Speaker 2: go ahead, watch those. But Mike Tyson will be back 763 00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:00,399 Speaker 2: in the ring as an underdog to Jake Paul. And 764 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,120 Speaker 2: what I feel like is the sad of sentence I've 765 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:03,280 Speaker 2: set on Fox Sports Radio. 766 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:05,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, this thing had me so upset, man, But you 767 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:07,719 Speaker 1: know what, I ain't even gonna bang on Paul. I'll 768 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,400 Speaker 1: do that later at a later time. Hey, Mike, Mike Tyson, 769 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:12,640 Speaker 1: this is for you, man, anybody that knows me in 770 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:14,920 Speaker 1: this business. I think we all have dream interviews. I 771 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:16,560 Speaker 1: think we do. I think we all have dream shows, 772 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,359 Speaker 1: dream co host dream partners, and dream interviews like just 773 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:22,319 Speaker 1: the player you would love to talk to, love to 774 00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:27,359 Speaker 1: interview one day. Mine is Mike Tyson. Over everybody. That's 775 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:31,439 Speaker 1: over Isaiah Thomas. That's over Rashid Wallace, that's over any 776 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:33,640 Speaker 1: of my tar Hills, that's knocked off Duke like the 777 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:37,440 Speaker 1: tar Hills just did. That's over Dan Marino, who's my 778 00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:41,080 Speaker 1: favorite quarterback of all time, Charles Woodson, who's probably my 779 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,760 Speaker 1: favorite football player of all time, Charlie Ward. 780 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,080 Speaker 3: It's Mike Tyson. 781 00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:49,080 Speaker 1: And that's because there's not a greater story in all 782 00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:52,279 Speaker 1: the sports, in my opinion, than either Mike Tyson's or 783 00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:53,280 Speaker 1: Muhammad Ali's. 784 00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:55,400 Speaker 3: You don't get better than that. 785 00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,160 Speaker 1: Everything that Ali did in the seventies and the sixties, 786 00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:01,439 Speaker 1: and the Olympic gold medal win down in Miami, going 787 00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:03,920 Speaker 1: to prison as the heavyweight champion, coming back winning the 788 00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:07,359 Speaker 1: heavyweight champion again, the fights with Foreman, knocking Foreman out 789 00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:11,320 Speaker 1: him and Joe Fraser, like Ali's story is, it's just tremendous. 790 00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:14,760 Speaker 1: Mike Tyson comes onto the scene knocking folks out, knocking 791 00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,560 Speaker 1: fools out left and right, fighting eight and nine times 792 00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:19,600 Speaker 1: within a year. At one point in his career, he 793 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:22,160 Speaker 1: fought four straight months. He fought a pro fight every 794 00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:24,440 Speaker 1: month for four straight months. Guys, you could barely get 795 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:27,480 Speaker 1: in the ring every four years now and iron Mike Tyson, 796 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,440 Speaker 1: the guy who invented the fight party. The fight party 797 00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:33,920 Speaker 1: was invented because of Mike Tyson. Black folks got the 798 00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:36,160 Speaker 1: black box to put on the back of the cable 799 00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:39,120 Speaker 1: till you could get the scramble fight because of Mike Tyson. 800 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:40,759 Speaker 1: Back then, that's how he used to get pay per view. 801 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:42,520 Speaker 1: You're in pay per view, You go down the hood, 802 00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:44,160 Speaker 1: get the little black box, put it on the back 803 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:45,640 Speaker 1: of the TV. I don't know how they did it 804 00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:47,720 Speaker 1: back then. All I know is my step pop Glenn 805 00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,360 Speaker 1: would make sure we saw the Tyson fight. I remember 806 00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:53,520 Speaker 1: watching him and Spinks. SPINKX was so scared to come 807 00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:55,680 Speaker 1: out of the locker room. If you guys want to 808 00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:58,120 Speaker 1: YouTube that, go look at a Tyson was getting heated. 809 00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:02,200 Speaker 1: So where he is today? The rise and fall, Robin Gibbons, 810 00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:06,719 Speaker 1: Don King, going to prison, coming back, winning the title again, 811 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,040 Speaker 1: having to fight for money late in his career as 812 00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,759 Speaker 1: a shell of himself, his stand up comedy tour that 813 00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:14,280 Speaker 1: I went to a New York City to watch in person. 814 00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:17,800 Speaker 1: To now be in a multi millionaire again, hundreds of 815 00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:20,000 Speaker 1: millions of do again. He's lost it and brought it 816 00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:23,160 Speaker 1: back again with his cannabis career. And this is what 817 00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,879 Speaker 1: we're doing, Mike, Like, this is what we're doing. This 818 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:30,320 Speaker 1: guy you signed the fight, this this guy of all boxers. 819 00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,160 Speaker 1: This hurts man, And I tell you it's gonna hurt 820 00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:34,880 Speaker 1: to me even more than I'm not gonna watch this. 821 00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:38,360 Speaker 1: I refuse to watch this. But if Tyson does not 822 00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:41,200 Speaker 1: annihilate this kid, the videos are still loud. You guys 823 00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:45,680 Speaker 1: can go YouTube, Go YouTube. Tyson training guys. Tyson still trains. 824 00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:49,439 Speaker 1: Tyson still got that side to side, that slides side 825 00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:53,400 Speaker 1: to side. We the uppercut, the hook, the just the power, 826 00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:56,920 Speaker 1: the ferososeness. There was not a more feared athlete Martin 827 00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:00,520 Speaker 1: in my lifetime that scared that hell of You don't 828 00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:02,680 Speaker 1: want beef with Mike Tyson right now? He fifty seven 829 00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,680 Speaker 1: and don't want nobody want no real smoke on the 830 00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:08,160 Speaker 1: street with him right now and he's fifty seven years 831 00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:12,200 Speaker 1: Taka nah, he don't because I got a feeling that 832 00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:16,719 Speaker 1: there's some clauses and there's some some shenanigans. And if 833 00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:19,520 Speaker 1: that's the case, man, this will hurt me as a 834 00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:22,839 Speaker 1: sports guy. This will hurt me as a Mike Tyson fan. 835 00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,879 Speaker 1: You don't need this, Mike, and we don't need this. 836 00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:29,440 Speaker 1: Everything is so damn fake now, dog, you were the last, 837 00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,160 Speaker 1: in my opinion, this is just me. Mike was the 838 00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:36,240 Speaker 1: last of the the real, gritty, just real man, tough 839 00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:39,120 Speaker 1: guys that was left from the sports world. 840 00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:40,439 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. 841 00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:42,759 Speaker 1: We don't have that no more. In boxing, we got 842 00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:46,680 Speaker 1: UFC people fighting boxers. Boxers fight UFC people. Now of you, 843 00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:51,520 Speaker 1: a former YouTuber whose father was a realtor a former YouTuber, 844 00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:54,439 Speaker 1: That's what we're doing now. Mike, don't do this, man. 845 00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:56,880 Speaker 1: You can't back out because you designed the contract. But 846 00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,399 Speaker 1: if he does not annihilate this kid, my heart's gonna 847 00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:01,720 Speaker 1: be broken. Okay, if this kitty he keeps it close 848 00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:05,080 Speaker 1: or beats Mike Tyson, Mike sold out, man, and that 849 00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:05,680 Speaker 1: would hurt me. 850 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:08,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, I wouldn't surprise me to see. 851 00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:11,480 Speaker 2: I mean, Jake Paul's what nine and one with six knockouts, 852 00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:13,960 Speaker 2: and I mean I know Mike Tyson is no Alexander. 853 00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,520 Speaker 2: I mean he's no Alexander. I'm no Alexander or whatever. 854 00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:20,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's not Alexander. I'm Alexander. I'm the 855 00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:26,719 Speaker 1: conkeror I'm telling him for growth this. My defense is impeccable, 856 00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,719 Speaker 1: My styla is impregnable. Mike. Come on, Mike, don't do 857 00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:30,600 Speaker 1: this to be bad. 858 00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:34,040 Speaker 2: Well, it's getting done. It'll be on Netflix. So there 859 00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:36,880 Speaker 2: you go take a live look at some of the 860 00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,400 Speaker 2: NBA games going on Fox Sports Radio. 861 00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:40,920 Speaker 3: Martin and VJ. 862 00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:44,759 Speaker 2: That's trying to We're broadcasting live from the tire rack 863 00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:45,520 Speaker 2: dot com studios. 864 00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:46,640 Speaker 3: Tire rack dot com. 865 00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:48,879 Speaker 2: We'll help you get there with an automax election fast 866 00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,920 Speaker 2: free shipping, free road as protection. Over ten thousand recommends 867 00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:54,200 Speaker 2: that this dollars tire iraq dot com. It's the way 868 00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:58,640 Speaker 2: that tire buying should be the Saturday evening game of 869 00:40:58,760 --> 00:40:59,680 Speaker 2: the night right now. 870 00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:01,320 Speaker 3: The Celtics and the Sons. 871 00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:06,040 Speaker 2: Devin Booker missing this contest right now, and uh, you know, VJ. 872 00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:08,080 Speaker 1: That's something that the Phoenix Sons are used to. 873 00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:11,800 Speaker 2: Devin Booker missing his fourth straight game. Bradley Beal hasn't 874 00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:12,960 Speaker 2: played a lot this season. 875 00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:15,120 Speaker 1: Kevin Durant, you know, has been in and out of 876 00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:17,719 Speaker 1: the lineup as well, but no real injury. Just it 877 00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:23,440 Speaker 1: seems as if this Phoenix Sun's team will never be 878 00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:26,120 Speaker 1: at full strength. Everybody's out of the three of them, 879 00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:28,359 Speaker 1: one of them is always hurt. Going back to when 880 00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:31,359 Speaker 1: they first made the trade for Kevin Durant and he tripped. 881 00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:31,960 Speaker 3: In the layup lines. 882 00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:33,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, sprained his ankle. 883 00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:36,319 Speaker 2: And this is a team with Phoenix, that to me, 884 00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:41,440 Speaker 2: they kind of have the same player three times in 885 00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:42,000 Speaker 2: a row. 886 00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:43,640 Speaker 3: As far as they're stars. 887 00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:48,600 Speaker 2: Now, obviously they're shaped differently and built differently, but but 888 00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:51,200 Speaker 2: in terms of what they like to do, which is 889 00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:53,279 Speaker 2: get the ball on the wing and kind of do 890 00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:57,240 Speaker 2: the wrong thing attack on their own, you have Kevin Durant, 891 00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:00,799 Speaker 2: Devin Booker, Bradley Beal who all all three of them 892 00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:03,760 Speaker 2: like to do that. Right, There's nobody on that roster, 893 00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:06,319 Speaker 2: and I mean, unless you think Grayson Allen is gonna 894 00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:08,560 Speaker 2: do all of a sudden turn into you know, prime 895 00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:11,960 Speaker 2: Magic Johnson. They're the playmaker on that roster and the 896 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,000 Speaker 2: real thing. And I think that's the biggest hold up 897 00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:17,320 Speaker 2: for this team, besides the health, which is the ultimate 898 00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:19,319 Speaker 2: biggest hold up for this team, because they can't get 899 00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:20,479 Speaker 2: these guys on the floor at. 900 00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:20,919 Speaker 3: The same time. 901 00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:23,160 Speaker 1: It's not just that too. Also with the Phoenix Suns, 902 00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:26,080 Speaker 1: I've always questioned their bench. When you go after a 903 00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:28,840 Speaker 1: good player, a big time name like Kevin Durant, you 904 00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,319 Speaker 1: end up giving up a lot to get them. Where 905 00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:34,000 Speaker 1: it hurts you most is the guys that come in 906 00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:36,440 Speaker 1: for the starters and spell the guys that give them 907 00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:38,800 Speaker 1: a break and let them get a couple of cups 908 00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:41,279 Speaker 1: of Gatorade and in they system and get ready to 909 00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:43,080 Speaker 1: get back out on the floor. I think their bench 910 00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:46,200 Speaker 1: is gonna be what's gonna hurt them down the stretches. 911 00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:49,879 Speaker 1: The further you get into the playoffs, they're gonna need 912 00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:53,680 Speaker 1: guys to come in and spell Durant and Booker and 913 00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:56,120 Speaker 1: and bial. But this whole thing with the players not 914 00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:58,719 Speaker 1: even being to play together, this this just feels like 915 00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:02,640 Speaker 1: so much calm for Kevin Durant and Durance, My guy, 916 00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:05,000 Speaker 1: I love me some. Durant been seeing the kids since 917 00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:08,279 Speaker 1: he's fourteen. Fifteen years old, that's how long I've been 918 00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:11,600 Speaker 1: really watching Kevin Durant and leaving. 919 00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:12,000 Speaker 3: And think about it. 920 00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:15,520 Speaker 1: Ever since he left Golden State, nothing's worked out in 921 00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:18,000 Speaker 1: his favor. He can't even get the guys to be 922 00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:19,960 Speaker 1: on the floor with him. Look what happened when they 923 00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:22,480 Speaker 1: when he was in Brooklyn. It was the same thing. 924 00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:24,759 Speaker 1: When he was in Brooklyn, he couldn't even get They 925 00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:28,240 Speaker 1: couldn't get on the floor together him, Kyrie and Harden 926 00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:31,560 Speaker 1: couldn't even play on the floor long enough together. And 927 00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:33,600 Speaker 1: he gets here to the Suns and it's the exact 928 00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:36,040 Speaker 1: same thing, man, And you see where they're sitting, you 929 00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:38,040 Speaker 1: see their record, you see where they're sitting. Durant's only 930 00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:41,719 Speaker 1: gonna be able to do so much. So I just 931 00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:45,440 Speaker 1: don't expect a lot out of them even in the postseason. 932 00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:48,080 Speaker 1: Maybe in the second round. I could see them there. 933 00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:50,000 Speaker 1: But what happened to them last year they got they 934 00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:52,880 Speaker 1: ran up against that bus saw called it defending NBA champs, 935 00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:57,000 Speaker 1: the Dinver Nuggets, and got slaughtered. Like they just got 936 00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:59,960 Speaker 1: embarrassed and blown out of that series. I could see 937 00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:02,720 Speaker 1: something like that happened again. They made maybe a surprise 938 00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:06,360 Speaker 1: of a young team sitting at the sixth seed playing 939 00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:10,600 Speaker 1: the third seed. So that would be uh ok se right, 940 00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:13,480 Speaker 1: So say, okay, s's a Minnesota diver EnnL once two 941 00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:15,480 Speaker 1: Oka ends up number three. I know they've had a 942 00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:18,239 Speaker 1: great little season, but I could see a young team 943 00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:21,600 Speaker 1: like that going against a veteran team maybe Booker and 944 00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:24,160 Speaker 1: Everybody's playing together. I could see them knock them off. 945 00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:25,960 Speaker 1: But then they'll get to the second round and you're 946 00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:28,759 Speaker 1: gonna run into either Denver Minnesota in season over. 947 00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:31,720 Speaker 3: But the thing is, I know you said that the 948 00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:34,680 Speaker 3: Denver just ran through them, the Sons were the only 949 00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:35,160 Speaker 3: team to. 950 00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:36,319 Speaker 1: Take two games off of them. 951 00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:39,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, the Sons were the only Like the Timberwolves took 952 00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:42,160 Speaker 2: a game in the first round, the Lakers took a game. 953 00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:44,800 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Lakers didn't take any game, and then Miami 954 00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:46,040 Speaker 2: took a game in the final. 955 00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:48,840 Speaker 1: The Sons were the team that beat them the most, 956 00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:51,399 Speaker 1: got them two games. But I'm just saying if you're 957 00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:54,319 Speaker 1: comparing them to the top class of the West, and 958 00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:57,920 Speaker 1: then they added Bradley Beal. So while I tend to. 959 00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:01,960 Speaker 2: Agree that don't know much about karma for Kevin Durant, 960 00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,319 Speaker 2: but I do know that, hey, if he just stayed 961 00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:07,640 Speaker 2: in Golden have a ton more rings, man, what hey, 962 00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:12,480 Speaker 2: I wouldn't man. That that's to me is a mark 963 00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:15,000 Speaker 2: on the legacy of Draymond Green more than anything. 964 00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:17,319 Speaker 1: Well, you gotta be tougher than that, though, Martin, I 965 00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:19,080 Speaker 1: get that part. But you gotta be tougher than that 966 00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:21,560 Speaker 1: if you're a KD. All Right, So Draymond says, so 967 00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:24,919 Speaker 1: real talk. So Draymond said something like, damn you let 968 00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:27,680 Speaker 1: words really affect because look, he'll always he'll have those 969 00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:31,560 Speaker 1: two rings, but it'll always be with the Golden State Warriors. 970 00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:33,359 Speaker 1: Regardless of whether you try to argue who the bus 971 00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:36,120 Speaker 1: driver was between him and Curry, it don't matter. You 972 00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:39,440 Speaker 1: still went to a squad that was already winning championships 973 00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:42,040 Speaker 1: when you got there. It made it easier for them 974 00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:44,680 Speaker 1: to even pull their rolls back and just give you 975 00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:45,000 Speaker 1: the shot. 976 00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:47,759 Speaker 3: I always say, Curry never gets the credit for. 977 00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:50,680 Speaker 1: Realizing, you know what, Like I'm not, I'm not that guy, 978 00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:52,600 Speaker 1: Like I don't have that ego or I need the 979 00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:56,120 Speaker 1: finals MVP. I need all the glory Durant does, though, 980 00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:58,600 Speaker 1: and Durant needs this. So I'm gonna still average my 981 00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:01,839 Speaker 1: twenty five and I'm gonna let Durant do his thing, 982 00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:03,640 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna let Durant go get his revenge on 983 00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:07,000 Speaker 1: Lebron and back to back finals. I'm gonna let Durrant 984 00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:09,560 Speaker 1: do this. I'm not tripping over this. Durant leaves, they 985 00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:13,239 Speaker 1: win another championship, Steph Getz's Finals MVP. What I mean? 986 00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:16,880 Speaker 3: They also had what a fifteen win season in the meanwhile? 987 00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:19,080 Speaker 1: Yeah stuff miss the Year though, I'm just saying, like 988 00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:23,480 Speaker 1: it's not Clay miss the Year. I think, like I 989 00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:26,240 Speaker 1: said this that in my opinion, my own personal opinion, 990 00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:29,600 Speaker 1: that's the wrong leave of sports that I can remember 991 00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:31,920 Speaker 1: off the top of my head where a superstar player 992 00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:37,440 Speaker 1: had it good and decided himself to leave, and and 993 00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:38,960 Speaker 1: and it just hasn't It. 994 00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:39,919 Speaker 3: Just hasn't worked out. 995 00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:42,800 Speaker 1: He hasn't even been back to a conference finals since 996 00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:46,600 Speaker 1: he's left Golden State. As we see a Browjha kind 997 00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:49,600 Speaker 1: of feel like Martin's is fixed on this Dallas Mavericks 998 00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:53,319 Speaker 1: and my beloved Detroit Pistons a little pushing and shove 999 00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:55,560 Speaker 1: and nobody wants to fight. That was a hard shove, 1000 00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:57,799 Speaker 1: though I give him credit. He did leave. You know, 1001 00:46:57,840 --> 00:46:59,840 Speaker 1: when you leave with two feet and two hands at 1002 00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:02,439 Speaker 1: the same time, that's a real man's push right there. 1003 00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:05,480 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. I'll tell you what. The whoever 1004 00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:06,200 Speaker 1: the player on the. 1005 00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:08,759 Speaker 2: Mavericks is forgive me. I'm having trouble seeing the back 1006 00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:11,120 Speaker 2: of his number twenty five. That's PJ Washington. 1007 00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:11,800 Speaker 1: So PJ. 1008 00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:15,520 Speaker 2: Washington ends up pushing Jalen Durran. Jalen Duran pushes him back, 1009 00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:18,520 Speaker 2: and he's like, no, bro, I'm gonna really push you back. 1010 00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:21,920 Speaker 2: But the only hold up once PJ. Daniel Gafford is 1011 00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:25,000 Speaker 2: at your feet, exactly you end up tripping yourself. The 1012 00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:27,840 Speaker 2: number one rule of the fight game is maintain your balance. 1013 00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:30,439 Speaker 2: If you go down, somebody else coming down with you. 1014 00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:31,960 Speaker 1: Yes, but you know, in the. 1015 00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:35,200 Speaker 2: Real moment, when Kevin Durant left Golden State, it was 1016 00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:39,440 Speaker 2: after the second championship at the at the parade, Bob 1017 00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:40,839 Speaker 2: Myers made a joke. 1018 00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:45,600 Speaker 3: Do you remember this, I don't. So everybody's on the 1019 00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:46,920 Speaker 3: post game, everybody on. 1020 00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:51,640 Speaker 2: The post game, post post parade, on the podium, and 1021 00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:55,719 Speaker 2: that's when everybody's drunk, like, oh, yeah they drunk by Yeah, 1022 00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:58,200 Speaker 2: they drunk by then, right, So everybody's drunk. Everybody's we're 1023 00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:03,160 Speaker 2: coming back, and so Steph talks and they're like extended, extended. 1024 00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:07,080 Speaker 2: Bob I like, okay, cool. KD goes up and says 1025 00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:09,239 Speaker 2: and says something or whatever. You know, it gives his 1026 00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:13,640 Speaker 2: little moment and then somebody's like extended him extending. Bob 1027 00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:19,280 Speaker 2: Myers says, you know, Steph earned his extension. 1028 00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:22,600 Speaker 1: I don't remember. Meanwhile, the back to back finals MVP, 1029 00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:25,120 Speaker 1: he is sitting on the stage like a word. 1030 00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:27,520 Speaker 3: I didn't earn my extension. 1031 00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:30,040 Speaker 2: That's part of the reason why I laughed. When Bob 1032 00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:32,080 Speaker 2: Myers went to ESPN and everybody was. 1033 00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:35,480 Speaker 1: Like, the greatest team builder in NBA history is now 1034 00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:38,399 Speaker 1: join the NBA countdown. He took a shot the other 1035 00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:44,879 Speaker 1: night where he was doing they were doing the Warriors game, 1036 00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:47,640 Speaker 1: and the Playboy play guy said, you know, you have 1037 00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:50,759 Speaker 1: to give Draymond credit. He's been a model. Citizens been 1038 00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:54,440 Speaker 1: playing very well since he came back, and they've been 1039 00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:56,720 Speaker 1: playing better. He should just watch it because he already 1040 00:48:56,719 --> 00:49:00,719 Speaker 1: had one technical. Bob Myers says, well, the everything about it. 1041 00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:03,080 Speaker 1: If he gets his second second technicals, I won't have 1042 00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:05,640 Speaker 1: to go back there and talk to him and just 1043 00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:08,120 Speaker 1: you play. I think it was Mark Jones that was 1044 00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:14,000 Speaker 1: just like, uh yeah a but Jones word in his 1045 00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:16,200 Speaker 1: authorist for that one. Yeah, I thought, I know, right, 1046 00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:18,799 Speaker 1: you talk about a guy that's overdoing the pund that's 1047 00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:22,120 Speaker 1: overdoing the metaphors and punds like take his corn bread. 1048 00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:24,080 Speaker 1: I like, I like take I like you, oh he 1049 00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:26,200 Speaker 1: took his corn bread because that's life. That's from the 1050 00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:29,800 Speaker 1: movie Life. So I like that. But it's almost like everything. 1051 00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:32,959 Speaker 2: There's matriculated down the tunnel to go and have a. 1052 00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:38,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. But I when even when I heard Bob Meyers said, 1053 00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:40,960 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, ouch damn bruh. 1054 00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:42,760 Speaker 3: Like, did you Okay? I think he was joking. 1055 00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:45,759 Speaker 1: But now that I you know that you're bringing this, 1056 00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:48,760 Speaker 1: you know comment up that I missed. So it's like, Okay, 1057 00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:52,080 Speaker 1: Bob Myers likes to send send a little shots. Maybe 1058 00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:55,120 Speaker 1: that's that ego to fel Hey, I did build four championships, 1059 00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:58,000 Speaker 1: whether people. It's like the old Krause stuff, right, he 1060 00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:00,799 Speaker 1: never gets credit for really putting together those boys, those teams. Sure, 1061 00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:03,200 Speaker 1: he never gets credit for that. They talked about it 1062 00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:05,520 Speaker 1: in the last day. He did draft those guys, but 1063 00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:08,680 Speaker 1: like he drafted all of them. He is the GM 1064 00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:12,520 Speaker 1: that put that thing together and he never never gets 1065 00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:13,080 Speaker 1: credit for it. 1066 00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:16,760 Speaker 2: I mean in part because if they you had Steph 1067 00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:18,480 Speaker 2: and Clay kind of already established. 1068 00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:19,960 Speaker 3: And then that's Bob. 1069 00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:21,880 Speaker 2: Myers missed on a lot, a lot of picks, Like 1070 00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:25,600 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, James Wiseman, Yeah, you know, you know they 1071 00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:26,359 Speaker 2: probably could have. 1072 00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:28,520 Speaker 3: I think LaMelo Ball would have been helpful, maybe, Anthony, I. 1073 00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:30,520 Speaker 1: Feel you on that. 1074 00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:33,120 Speaker 3: I thought the Wiseman pick was they number one. 1075 00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:36,160 Speaker 1: They did need size when they lost Boge and they 1076 00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:39,200 Speaker 1: lost guys like David Lee. They they did lose some 1077 00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:42,279 Speaker 1: guys for some size, some guys that could get on 1078 00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:44,160 Speaker 1: the boards and play defense in the paint for them. 1079 00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:47,759 Speaker 1: I thought the Wiseman trade the draft pick should have 1080 00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:49,719 Speaker 1: been traded the whole time. I'm like, dude, there's not 1081 00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:52,120 Speaker 1: a guy that's gonna come in that's gonna help what 1082 00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:55,399 Speaker 1: you guys got going right now. Trade that pick and 1083 00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:58,040 Speaker 1: maybe load up down the line for if Steph retires 1084 00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:01,200 Speaker 1: early or you see now Clay's on the bitch, ded 1085 00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:04,680 Speaker 1: a boy, could you really use another top pick and 1086 00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:08,040 Speaker 1: the upcoming draft to fill that role moving forward? So 1087 00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:10,120 Speaker 1: I always thought the Wiseman pick was just a bad 1088 00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:12,319 Speaker 1: pick all around, but it was like a god, can 1089 00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:14,759 Speaker 1: you can you pass up on his kid? Yeah, you 1090 00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:17,279 Speaker 1: can say it now, right hindsight's twenty twenty, you can 1091 00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:19,719 Speaker 1: say it now. But coming out of school they were 1092 00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:21,400 Speaker 1: still like, nah, you got it. He didn't get a 1093 00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:22,880 Speaker 1: chance to play a lot. You got to give this 1094 00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:24,960 Speaker 1: kid a shot. You got a draft Wiseman. But now 1095 00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:26,799 Speaker 1: we see he's not even playing in Detroit right now, 1096 00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:28,840 Speaker 1: so his career might really be done. 1097 00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:30,759 Speaker 3: I just pulled up a list for this is from 1098 00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:31,800 Speaker 3: June twenty twenty. 1099 00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:33,760 Speaker 2: So they made a couple of picks, but they're ranking 1100 00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:40,040 Speaker 2: Bob Meyers draft picks. Eric Pascal from Villanova is fourth, 1101 00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:44,120 Speaker 2: Cavon Looney fifth, like Jordan Bell. I mean, obviously the 1102 00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:47,880 Speaker 2: top three are are going to be there are Klay Thompson, 1103 00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:51,760 Speaker 2: Harrison Barnes, and Draymond Green was probably before Nicole jokicch 1104 00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:54,720 Speaker 2: probably the best second round pick in NBA history. 1105 00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:59,600 Speaker 1: Draymond Green the best second round pick in NBA history. 1106 00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:02,160 Speaker 3: I know that Genobili picked in the second round. That's 1107 00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:02,600 Speaker 3: in the win. 1108 00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:05,719 Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean genob Le, I mean Genoplee's the beast. 1109 00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:08,560 Speaker 1: Bro wont the gold medal for his country. He's He's 1110 00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:11,080 Speaker 1: definitely a part of those with three or four rings, 1111 00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:13,319 Speaker 1: because Duncan's got five. He wasn't there for all five. 1112 00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:14,560 Speaker 1: I think he was there for at least three or 1113 00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:17,319 Speaker 1: four of them. I would. I mean Genobley might be. 1114 00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:19,959 Speaker 1: He's up there. Yeah, he was the second to last 1115 00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:23,200 Speaker 1: pick in the nineteen ninety nine NBA. Yeah, man, I might, 1116 00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:25,719 Speaker 1: I might go. I might go Genobili as far as 1117 00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:28,719 Speaker 1: best second round pick. Go, hold on, where was Joker taking? 1118 00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:32,560 Speaker 1: That's what I said before Joker. Oh, okay, before Joker. Okay, 1119 00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:34,640 Speaker 1: I'm about to say, if joke, if j joker. 1120 00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:39,239 Speaker 2: He's got that one that this po get delivered as 1121 00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:42,839 Speaker 2: the best second round about the third MVP, which this 1122 00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:45,480 Speaker 2: is the problem. I'm not I don't want to relitigate 1123 00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:47,520 Speaker 2: arguments from years ago, but this is why he never 1124 00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:49,000 Speaker 2: should have got the first one when he was on 1125 00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:52,120 Speaker 2: an average team, because now he's like the engine that's 1126 00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:54,959 Speaker 2: driving the team. And we're really gonna give Joke three 1127 00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:56,360 Speaker 2: m vps in four years? 1128 00:52:57,040 --> 00:53:00,359 Speaker 1: I guess, So, I mean who else? Okay, So here's 1129 00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:02,279 Speaker 1: the thing, here's the rebuttals of that. Who are you 1130 00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:04,440 Speaker 1: gonna give? You can't just give it to somebody else. 1131 00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:07,160 Speaker 1: They gotta go get it, they gotta earn it. Jason 1132 00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:10,120 Speaker 1: had a shot. Tatum had a shot, but you don't 1133 00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:12,239 Speaker 1: think it was ever real. But he lost it. He 1134 00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:15,320 Speaker 1: lost it with me when he was begging for votes. 1135 00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:17,840 Speaker 1: I don't like pandurin. I don't like pro athletes panderin 1136 00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:19,160 Speaker 1: for votes for anything. 1137 00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:21,600 Speaker 3: I don't like that. They go get it, go earn it, 1138 00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:22,080 Speaker 3: go get it. 1139 00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:23,680 Speaker 1: If you don't win it, all right, cool, there's an 1140 00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:26,399 Speaker 1: argument we could say, you know, Jordan had a couple 1141 00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:29,000 Speaker 1: of stolen from it was Carmelone really the MVP the 1142 00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:31,279 Speaker 1: year he stole it from Jordan, you know what I'm saying. 1143 00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:33,520 Speaker 1: And then there was another year Jordan and I forgot 1144 00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:35,560 Speaker 1: who they gave it to, but car Malone won it 1145 00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:38,160 Speaker 1: one year and Steve Nash stole one from Kobe. If 1146 00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:40,680 Speaker 1: you ask me, I don't really. My thing isn't. If 1147 00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:43,439 Speaker 1: your team wins twenty games, twenty five games, all right, cool, 1148 00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:46,480 Speaker 1: But if your team is a seed seven seed there 1149 00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:51,680 Speaker 1: and they're really that strictly because of you, like there's 1150 00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:55,920 Speaker 1: no other player you can look at and say, yeah, 1151 00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:58,000 Speaker 1: if he wasn't there, they still would at least got 1152 00:53:58,000 --> 00:53:59,920 Speaker 1: to the eighth or night. No, they would not have. 1153 00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:02,360 Speaker 1: They would have been at the bottom of the barrel 1154 00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:06,200 Speaker 1: if this one guy wasn't there, even a year where 1155 00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:08,520 Speaker 1: they didn't have a great year that he won the MVP. 1156 00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:11,960 Speaker 1: If you take Joker off that team, they might win 1157 00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:14,600 Speaker 1: twenty games. That's a twenty game To me, that's a 1158 00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:15,439 Speaker 1: twenty game swing. 1159 00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:17,360 Speaker 2: If you don't have at least home court advantage in 1160 00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:19,680 Speaker 2: the playoffs, I can't help y'all. Like, so you gotta 1161 00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:21,759 Speaker 2: be the one seed at least home for you gotta 1162 00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:23,520 Speaker 2: be at least a top four seat in your conference. 1163 00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:26,880 Speaker 2: Like otherwise the rebuttal will be how valuable are you 1164 00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:29,799 Speaker 2: because the team can't win, like you know if you 1165 00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:31,520 Speaker 2: were if you're a fifth seed. To I know, they 1166 00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:33,760 Speaker 2: gave rush to the MVP when he was a fifth 1167 00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:36,960 Speaker 2: seed because he averaged a triple double year Kevin Durant left. 1168 00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:40,239 Speaker 2: But like that to me was is where everything kind 1169 00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:42,520 Speaker 2: of fell off the rails. Honest, take Gruss off that team. 1170 00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:45,400 Speaker 2: Though you take Russ off that team, they lose twenty 1171 00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:47,920 Speaker 2: five more games. I get that, but if it's not 1172 00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:50,520 Speaker 2: like they were a seventy five win team, and like 1173 00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:53,040 Speaker 2: it'd be one thing if they were out here really 1174 00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:54,120 Speaker 2: dominating the NBA. 1175 00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:57,440 Speaker 3: But like that's why I'm holding out hope for Anthony Edwards. 1176 00:54:57,520 --> 00:55:00,719 Speaker 2: If Athony Wards in the Timberwolves can maintain their status 1177 00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:04,400 Speaker 2: after Carl Towns went down like that, the dealing with 1178 00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:06,440 Speaker 2: just got a month, That's what I'm saying, got a 1179 00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:08,719 Speaker 2: month to do it. We got to restore winning in 1180 00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:12,760 Speaker 2: some of these awards. But coming up next, speaking of winning, 1181 00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:17,040 Speaker 2: which one of these running backs will be more impactful 1182 00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:20,120 Speaker 2: next season. We'll talk about that in just a minute. 1183 00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:23,000 Speaker 2: Martin and VJ on Fox Sports Radio. Just like a basketball, 1184 00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:25,799 Speaker 2: a successful game plan starts with the right players. The 1185 00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:28,160 Speaker 2: team at Tractor Supply brings hustle and heart. That's what 1186 00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:30,680 Speaker 2: really sets them apart. So lace up your sneakers and 1187 00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:32,800 Speaker 2: make the winning play by heading to your local Tractor 1188 00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:35,840 Speaker 2: Supply store today and starting Monday, you could preregister for 1189 00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:38,080 Speaker 2: the Fox Sports Radio Bracket Challenge at Fox Sports Radio 1190 00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:40,200 Speaker 2: dot com, where listeners can compete with our host for 1191 00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:43,680 Speaker 2: bragging rights to see who has the better better tourney. Brackett, 1192 00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:46,120 Speaker 2: Martin and VJA coming to you live from the Tirack 1193 00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:48,960 Speaker 2: dot com studios. If you want to get into the conversation, 1194 00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:52,399 Speaker 2: you can join us on Twitter at Martin Weiss at 1195 00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:53,120 Speaker 2: Big Vanilla. 1196 00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:55,759 Speaker 3: Funny like our homeboy Ramiro Rincone. 1197 00:55:57,520 --> 00:55:59,400 Speaker 2: So it was senior day down there at the Houston 1198 00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:02,280 Speaker 2: Cougars and he wanted to show up to a local 1199 00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:02,960 Speaker 2: reporter downe there. 1200 00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:04,400 Speaker 1: I tell you what, my boy Romeiro. 1201 00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:08,920 Speaker 2: Saw the every single one of them. But how about 1202 00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:11,719 Speaker 2: the Houston Cougars real quick, seventy six to forty six 1203 00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:12,880 Speaker 2: over the Kansas Jayhawks. 1204 00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:14,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, nice one for them, man, But we saw this 1205 00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:19,880 Speaker 1: with Houston last year. Houston Purdue Yukon I got I 1206 00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:21,680 Speaker 1: can I'm away for the tournament. I already knew what 1207 00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:23,600 Speaker 1: those teams are going to be in the regular season. Congrats, 1208 00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:26,960 Speaker 1: I'm not taking nothing away from uh from the Kouks, 1209 00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:29,920 Speaker 1: congrats to what they've done. But they did this last 1210 00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:33,040 Speaker 1: year and then and same with Purdue. They ran through 1211 00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:35,960 Speaker 1: the regular season, won their conference, and then got to 1212 00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:40,080 Speaker 1: the tournament and got sent home super early. Both programs there. 1213 00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:42,480 Speaker 1: So what they do in March madness is where ILL 1214 00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:44,759 Speaker 1: judged them. But congrats to them. But that's that's nothing. 1215 00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:46,520 Speaker 1: That's not impressive. They were they were supposed to win 1216 00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:48,400 Speaker 1: that division, going that conference, going away. 1217 00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:52,680 Speaker 2: We got another tweet from Tony Calvin. First of all, 1218 00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:55,440 Speaker 2: it is a video here of North Carolina waving goodbye 1219 00:56:55,560 --> 00:57:00,919 Speaker 2: to all the care He says, damn will show one 1220 00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:04,360 Speaker 2: side of the Carolina whooping ass, like Michigan over Ohio State. 1221 00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:07,600 Speaker 1: All of us come on the season the sports year. 1222 00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:10,919 Speaker 1: I'm having ladies and gentlemen, y'all listen to us. Enough 1223 00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:14,799 Speaker 1: Texas Rangers Michigan, I told Martin at the beginning of 1224 00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:17,440 Speaker 1: the season, him and Aaron Taurus dog Tall we cutting 1225 00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:20,000 Speaker 1: down them nets y'all think I'm playing about this. We 1226 00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:24,040 Speaker 1: cutting down them nets, three squads. I'm man, come on, 1227 00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:27,160 Speaker 1: I feel good, baby, let's go winning the cameon. I've 1228 00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:29,680 Speaker 1: been in there one of them senior night games and 1229 00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:32,640 Speaker 1: watching them seniors walk off with their head down. Yeah, 1230 00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:35,520 Speaker 1: they take y'all lasses on. Man, we'll see y'all. We 1231 00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:37,240 Speaker 1: might not see y'all nest, but y'all gonna slip up 1232 00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:39,560 Speaker 1: in the ACC tournament. Somebody gonna beat dude before they 1233 00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:42,640 Speaker 1: can get to the final. Please at one side. Just 1234 00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:45,680 Speaker 1: in case you haven't heard all of the shows, you 1235 00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:46,919 Speaker 1: know all the vj's teams. 1236 00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:48,600 Speaker 2: There's a way you can do it because shortly after 1237 00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:50,840 Speaker 2: the show, our podcasts will be going up, and if 1238 00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:52,600 Speaker 2: you missed any of today's show, be sure to check 1239 00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:55,320 Speaker 2: out the podcast. Search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get 1240 00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:57,840 Speaker 2: your pod gots. Be sure to follow, rate and review 1241 00:57:57,880 --> 00:57:58,680 Speaker 2: though by guys. 1242 00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:01,400 Speaker 1: Again, just search Fox Sports Trade wherever you get your podcast, 1243 00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:03,680 Speaker 1: and you'll see this show posted right after we get 1244 00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:04,600 Speaker 1: off of the air. 1245 00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:07,320 Speaker 2: Saw a report today from a mutual friend of ours. 1246 00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:10,600 Speaker 2: I believe Jason Dumas out there, and that's my guy. 1247 00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:14,240 Speaker 2: I know Jason well. He tweeted earlier today that he 1248 00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:17,640 Speaker 2: thinks that Saquon Barkley is going to the Philadelphia Eagles. 1249 00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:21,320 Speaker 2: Also saw that Derrick Henry unlikely to return to the 1250 00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:23,720 Speaker 2: Tennessee Titans, which is news that we knew, but now 1251 00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:25,560 Speaker 2: that it's kind of becoming a little bit more real 1252 00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:29,439 Speaker 2: as the league year is about to start. So I'll 1253 00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:32,560 Speaker 2: start asking you this question was a pre agent running back. 1254 00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:35,320 Speaker 2: Do you think will be more impactful next season in 1255 00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:37,520 Speaker 2: the NFL? Saquon Barkley or Derek Henry. 1256 00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:39,080 Speaker 1: It's gonna sound like a cop out. I just I 1257 00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:40,960 Speaker 1: think it's a great answer. It depends on what type 1258 00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:43,000 Speaker 1: of offense these two guys are looking to go on. 1259 00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:45,040 Speaker 1: So I'll go with Derek Henry first. You know where 1260 00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:47,880 Speaker 1: I would love to see him, the Ravens. The Ravens 1261 00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:48,880 Speaker 1: could use a bruising. 1262 00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:50,320 Speaker 2: This is what they thought we were gonna get that 1263 00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:52,760 Speaker 2: last year for a minute there towards the trade double. 1264 00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:56,360 Speaker 1: Now there you go. That's why this could be very viable. 1265 00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:59,400 Speaker 1: It was already talked about, it was already discussed. Now 1266 00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:01,080 Speaker 1: you don't have to team in the way. All you 1267 00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:03,000 Speaker 1: gotta do is just get King Henry and you see 1268 00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:04,960 Speaker 1: his workout video of the day, leaning on his side 1269 00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:08,600 Speaker 1: with the weight jacket on, pulling the pulling the the 1270 00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:12,040 Speaker 1: you know, the Pulley machine on his side, oh my, 1271 00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:13,880 Speaker 1: like with a weight on it, with a weight on 1272 00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:16,800 Speaker 1: his ribs, with a weight jacket on, hoist it up 1273 00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:18,560 Speaker 1: in the air, up on his elbow, on his feet 1274 00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:21,000 Speaker 1: like he's doing the side plank, and on the Smith machine, 1275 00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:23,600 Speaker 1: pulling the row machine. Like goodness. Craig Henry's up. 1276 00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:27,200 Speaker 2: There with James Harrison as an all time Instagram workout guy. Yes, 1277 00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:29,040 Speaker 2: I'm not trying to say it's not working hard. I'm 1278 00:59:29,080 --> 00:59:31,959 Speaker 2: just saying when you see his workout, you're like, wow, Yeah, 1279 00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:34,680 Speaker 2: that's a big that's the difference between me and professional athletes. 1280 00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:38,680 Speaker 1: So I think if you're grounding pound, I don't see 1281 00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:41,080 Speaker 1: Derrick Henry like going to Miami where they want to 1282 00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:43,000 Speaker 1: get out fast and get running backs on the on 1283 00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:45,520 Speaker 1: the perimeter and get him in the backfield, split him out, 1284 00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:49,680 Speaker 1: say Kwan Barkley fits something like that. The Philadelphia story 1285 00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:53,200 Speaker 1: I did hear also yesterday, so that that sounds viable 1286 00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:56,040 Speaker 1: to Washington's a team out there, man, But I think 1287 00:59:56,080 --> 00:59:58,800 Speaker 1: the bat that's gonna have the more impact more. Honestly, 1288 00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:01,240 Speaker 1: it's gonna be the back that goes the offense that 1289 01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:04,960 Speaker 1: needs them the most. So I'm gonna go Derick Henry 1290 01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:11,400 Speaker 1: because I like the Baltimore fit, a powerful, strong ground game. JK. 1291 01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:13,840 Speaker 1: Dobbins has done two lower league injuries this early in 1292 01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:15,919 Speaker 1: his career. He's never gonna be the same again. Gus 1293 01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:18,760 Speaker 1: Edwards keeps getting hurt. The rookie Mitchell that they got 1294 01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:20,760 Speaker 1: last year that came on strong, he got hurt missed 1295 01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:22,840 Speaker 1: the rest of the year after week in Week fourteen, 1296 01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:25,160 Speaker 1: so he's already been banged up. But you bring in 1297 01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:30,760 Speaker 1: a Dereck Henry Pittsburgh's defense twice, Cleveland's defense twice, Cincinnati's 1298 01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:34,520 Speaker 1: defense twice. The AFC is already loaded with the Chiefs defense, 1299 01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:38,680 Speaker 1: the Dolphins defense, the Bills run defense, the Jets, the 1300 01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:41,320 Speaker 1: bum ass Jets. They gotta run defense. You got some 1301 01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:43,560 Speaker 1: defenses to play in the AFC. Do you want to 1302 01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:47,320 Speaker 1: tackle and make business decisions with Derrick Henry for four 1303 01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:51,600 Speaker 1: quarters with it probably a chip on his shoulder right, 1304 01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:54,640 Speaker 1: want to show people and no, I'm still King Henry. 1305 01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:57,600 Speaker 1: I'm still that big beast, that beast of a back 1306 01:00:57,640 --> 01:00:59,800 Speaker 1: in the NFL. You can give twenty two to twenty 1307 01:00:59,800 --> 01:01:02,840 Speaker 1: five carries two, So I'll go with Derrick Henry. But 1308 01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:05,120 Speaker 1: I got a match him with a squad. I love 1309 01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:08,440 Speaker 1: him with the Ravens. I don't like Sequon in Philly. 1310 01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:12,919 Speaker 2: We'll bring up Sequon more after we kicked the Steve 1311 01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:15,640 Speaker 2: de Seger right now for an update about everything trending 1312 01:01:15,640 --> 01:01:16,320 Speaker 2: in the world of sports. 1313 01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:18,160 Speaker 3: Steve, how are you going? My friend doing well? 1314 01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:18,439 Speaker 9: Guys? 1315 01:01:18,520 --> 01:01:20,960 Speaker 6: Let's start with the NBA is Luka Doncich for a 1316 01:01:21,080 --> 01:01:24,000 Speaker 6: sixth straight game. It's a thirty point triple double final 1317 01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:27,520 Speaker 6: seconds Mavericks are leading one forty two to one twenty 1318 01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:30,360 Speaker 6: four at Detroit. I know it's the Pistons. It counts 1319 01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:33,320 Speaker 6: as a full victory. No comments. That is a final 1320 01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:36,439 Speaker 6: now one forty two to one twenty four. Donsis did 1321 01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:40,640 Speaker 6: finish in the game with thirty nine points, ten rebounds, 1322 01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:44,720 Speaker 6: Tennis's six turnovers as well. In progress, the Spurs are 1323 01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:47,720 Speaker 6: leading at Golden State mid second quarter forty seven to 1324 01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:51,200 Speaker 6: thirty two. For the Golden State Warriors. Steph Curry out 1325 01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:54,479 Speaker 6: with a sprained ankle. He'll be re evaluated Tuesday. Victor 1326 01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:58,000 Speaker 6: Wembinyama the Spurs still out this weekend with a sprained ankle. 1327 01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:01,000 Speaker 6: The Celtics, who Horrors have lost to in a row, 1328 01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:04,240 Speaker 6: are leading at Phoenix late second quarter fifty seven to 1329 01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:07,360 Speaker 6: forty four, and the Denver Nuggets are already out to 1330 01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:10,160 Speaker 6: a lead of thirty one sixteen over Utah late in 1331 01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:13,280 Speaker 6: the first quarter. Lowry markinin of the Jazz still out 1332 01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:16,080 Speaker 6: with the Bruce Quad. Charlotte has ended a six game 1333 01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:19,760 Speaker 6: losing streak, beating Brooklyn one ten to ninety nine. Clippers 1334 01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:22,720 Speaker 6: down Chicago today one twelve to one oh two. The 1335 01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:24,720 Speaker 6: late game and a half an hour we'll have Portland 1336 01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:28,880 Speaker 6: hosting Toronto. Jeremy Grant is out again. Pacers guard Ben 1337 01:02:28,920 --> 01:02:31,960 Speaker 6: Mathern will have season ending surgery for a torn labraam 1338 01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:34,800 Speaker 6: He averaged fifteen points per game this year. And the 1339 01:02:34,920 --> 01:02:39,080 Speaker 6: NHL wins for Florida and Boston, victories for Carolina and Nashville. 1340 01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:43,240 Speaker 6: Among the games going right now, Toronto's tied at Montreal 1341 01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:46,120 Speaker 6: tow to two with about twelve minutes left in regulation. 1342 01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:49,439 Speaker 6: There's college hoops right now on Fox TV Number two. 1343 01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:52,920 Speaker 6: Yukon trailed fifteen to two early at Providence. It's been 1344 01:02:52,960 --> 01:02:56,720 Speaker 6: all Connecticut since about twelve minutes left, fifty nine thirty six, 1345 01:02:56,880 --> 01:02:59,800 Speaker 6: Yukon in the lead. New Mexico has a halftime lead 1346 01:02:59,800 --> 01:03:03,520 Speaker 6: at number twenty two Utah State forty four to thirty nine. 1347 01:03:03,880 --> 01:03:07,400 Speaker 6: Number one Houston had no problem ripping Kansas seventy six 1348 01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:10,960 Speaker 6: to forty six. Kentucky a winner impressively at number four 1349 01:03:11,040 --> 01:03:15,120 Speaker 6: Tennessee eighty five eighty one. Kansas State at home upset 1350 01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:19,080 Speaker 6: number six Iowa State sixty five fifty eight. North Carolina 1351 01:03:19,120 --> 01:03:21,320 Speaker 6: won at Duke tonight, eighty four to seventy nine and 1352 01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:24,240 Speaker 6: winning the acc regular season crown for the first time 1353 01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:27,840 Speaker 6: since twenty seventeen. Marquette and Creighton each one on the road. 1354 01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:31,960 Speaker 6: Texas Tech upset Baylor. Overtime wins for both Alabama and 1355 01:03:32,040 --> 01:03:36,680 Speaker 6: South Carolina. The first conference tournament final is tonight. It's 1356 01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:40,000 Speaker 6: the Ohio Valley Conference Tournament final, and with about ten 1357 01:03:40,040 --> 01:03:43,480 Speaker 6: minutes to go, Morehead State is in action, leading Little 1358 01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:46,120 Speaker 6: Rock forty six to thirty nine. Someone is punching a 1359 01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:49,400 Speaker 6: ticket to March Madness this evening. Women's Number one South 1360 01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:53,120 Speaker 6: Carolina is thirty one and oz after it defeated Tennessee 1361 01:03:53,520 --> 01:03:56,800 Speaker 6: on a three pointer at the buzzer in an SEC 1362 01:03:56,880 --> 01:04:00,800 Speaker 6: semifinal seventy four to seventy three. In the FIE, defending 1363 01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:04,520 Speaker 6: champion LSU is winning its semifinals seventy three sixty five 1364 01:04:04,560 --> 01:04:04,960 Speaker 6: over Ole. 1365 01:04:05,080 --> 01:04:05,440 Speaker 1: Miss. 1366 01:04:05,600 --> 01:04:08,680 Speaker 6: Nascar is on Fox TV again tomorrow from Phoenix three 1367 01:04:08,800 --> 01:04:11,880 Speaker 6: thirty pm Eastern time. Denny Hamlin will start from the poll. 1368 01:04:12,160 --> 01:04:15,920 Speaker 6: The Cleveland Browns are acquiring wide receiver Jerry Judy from Denver. 1369 01:04:16,120 --> 01:04:19,800 Speaker 6: Seattle wide receiver Tyler Lockett restructured his two year deal. 1370 01:04:20,080 --> 01:04:23,560 Speaker 6: The Eagles re signed veteran defensive end Brandon Graham. And 1371 01:04:23,600 --> 01:04:27,720 Speaker 6: there are two MLB exhibitions in the Dominican Republic this weekend. 1372 01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:30,960 Speaker 6: Boston versus Tampa Bay Red Sox won for nothing today. 1373 01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:34,920 Speaker 1: Back to you, coming to you a live at the 1374 01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:37,720 Speaker 1: Tireck dot Com studios. It is Martin Weiss and VJ. 1375 01:04:37,920 --> 01:04:39,440 Speaker 3: Husky. How about this deed the seger. 1376 01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:41,600 Speaker 1: You know that Brandon Graham that you just mentioned, fifteen 1377 01:04:41,680 --> 01:04:45,400 Speaker 1: year NFL VET. When I was in college, our dog 1378 01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:46,000 Speaker 1: got out. 1379 01:04:46,680 --> 01:04:49,880 Speaker 2: Somebody came knocked on the door, Big old Brandon Graham 1380 01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:52,439 Speaker 2: holding this toy poodle like I think this is your dog. 1381 01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:54,960 Speaker 2: We've seen it come out of your house before we 1382 01:04:55,040 --> 01:04:57,080 Speaker 2: are ready for the college basketball tournament. 1383 01:04:57,160 --> 01:04:57,760 Speaker 3: That's a fact. 1384 01:04:58,400 --> 01:05:00,800 Speaker 1: We're absolutely ready for that. I was trying to talk 1385 01:05:00,800 --> 01:05:01,640 Speaker 1: to you Stello. 1386 01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:05,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Brandon Graham returned my dog. He was all 1387 01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:05,880 Speaker 2: big tag. 1388 01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:07,880 Speaker 6: Obviously you recognized him at the time. 1389 01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:10,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, of course, of course we were went to school together. 1390 01:05:11,040 --> 01:05:13,479 Speaker 2: Now, the fact that I recondu of fifteen year NFL event, 1391 01:05:13,520 --> 01:05:15,960 Speaker 2: it's crazy because I heard for me to get out 1392 01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:16,240 Speaker 2: of the bed. 1393 01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:17,480 Speaker 3: I can only imagine how he feels. 1394 01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:19,840 Speaker 6: I agree it's fifteen with the same team. That puts 1395 01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:22,160 Speaker 6: him probably in pretty elite company because this was the 1396 01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:24,240 Speaker 6: first rounders. You say, in twenty ten. 1397 01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:26,800 Speaker 1: It was all big ten. He was a beast when 1398 01:05:26,840 --> 01:05:28,240 Speaker 1: he was at Michigan. I used to love me some. 1399 01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:29,040 Speaker 6: Brands ever changed. 1400 01:05:29,360 --> 01:05:31,560 Speaker 1: Real quick question of you, Steve, are you a NASCAR guy? 1401 01:05:31,640 --> 01:05:32,880 Speaker 3: Do you watch it or keep up with me? 1402 01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:35,000 Speaker 6: Watch a lot in the first half because Fox has 1403 01:05:35,040 --> 01:05:37,120 Speaker 6: the rights for the first half of each calendar year 1404 01:05:37,840 --> 01:05:38,959 Speaker 6: and then they don't the second. 1405 01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:40,880 Speaker 1: All right, I'm a big NASCAR I was just wondering 1406 01:05:40,960 --> 01:05:43,600 Speaker 1: was anybody else here? I never hear anybody talk about 1407 01:05:43,600 --> 01:05:44,800 Speaker 1: So I'm excited for the hamlet. 1408 01:05:44,880 --> 01:05:47,120 Speaker 6: The biggest I've run across Chris Plank on the Sunday 1409 01:05:47,160 --> 01:05:50,480 Speaker 6: Night Show and sometimes has driven to NASCAR races from 1410 01:05:50,600 --> 01:05:51,760 Speaker 6: his place in Oklahoma. 1411 01:05:51,840 --> 01:05:55,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, when I was getting the job at FS one, 1412 01:05:55,280 --> 01:05:56,960 Speaker 2: I didn't know what show was going to be working on, 1413 01:05:57,040 --> 01:05:58,960 Speaker 2: So I watched all of them like I'd wake up 1414 01:05:59,000 --> 01:05:59,640 Speaker 2: and turn it on. 1415 01:06:00,160 --> 01:06:02,320 Speaker 1: But so I do a lot. 1416 01:06:02,600 --> 01:06:06,040 Speaker 2: Eight years ago after watching daily episodes of NASCAR racehw 1417 01:06:06,200 --> 01:06:07,960 Speaker 2: I was I was locked into NASCAR. 1418 01:06:08,200 --> 01:06:09,439 Speaker 3: NASCAR was a decade ago. 1419 01:06:09,480 --> 01:06:12,160 Speaker 6: But now the coverage they still have on FS one, 1420 01:06:12,320 --> 01:06:16,520 Speaker 6: even some that makes its way to FS two is sensational, 1421 01:06:16,560 --> 01:06:19,240 Speaker 6: and I mean it's really good. They deserve the rights 1422 01:06:19,240 --> 01:06:21,120 Speaker 6: to NASCAR first half of the year. The way they 1423 01:06:21,160 --> 01:06:21,640 Speaker 6: split it. 1424 01:06:21,640 --> 01:06:23,720 Speaker 1: They do a great They do a great job from 1425 01:06:23,800 --> 01:06:26,880 Speaker 1: the from the people that are interviewing down on on 1426 01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:28,080 Speaker 1: the pit crewise shows. 1427 01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:30,560 Speaker 6: They have the qualifying today. I mean, it was felt 1428 01:06:30,560 --> 01:06:31,920 Speaker 6: like all day on FS one. 1429 01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:34,600 Speaker 1: And they're rotating. It seems like they're rotating every new year. 1430 01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:39,280 Speaker 1: The newest retired driver, Harvick, Are you free? Yeah, exactly right, 1431 01:06:39,280 --> 01:06:42,440 Speaker 1: harv And Harvick's good, though, man, Harvard's good. I'm a 1432 01:06:42,520 --> 01:06:45,560 Speaker 1: Jeff Gordon guy, but honestly, I thought Jeff was I 1433 01:06:45,560 --> 01:06:47,440 Speaker 1: thought it was okay. And I'm a Jeff Gordon. I'm 1434 01:06:47,440 --> 01:06:49,560 Speaker 1: a twenty four guy till I die man. Bubba's my 1435 01:06:49,760 --> 01:06:51,800 Speaker 1: driver now. But I was a Jeff Gordon guy and 1436 01:06:51,800 --> 01:06:53,240 Speaker 1: I was wait. I wanted him to be so good, 1437 01:06:53,240 --> 01:06:56,160 Speaker 1: and it was kind of like Tony store did did 1438 01:06:56,200 --> 01:06:57,680 Speaker 1: a great job also too, Furiod. 1439 01:06:57,680 --> 01:06:59,720 Speaker 6: It's going to be many, many years till Bubba Wallace 1440 01:06:59,760 --> 01:07:02,560 Speaker 6: will be available for it any kind of media stuff. 1441 01:07:03,240 --> 01:07:06,680 Speaker 6: Jeff's really starting driving at this level. And I think Pete, 1442 01:07:06,680 --> 01:07:10,120 Speaker 6: there's not at least I can speak nationally, maybe not 1443 01:07:10,240 --> 01:07:14,000 Speaker 6: in Carolina, but I think there's not enough talk about 1444 01:07:14,120 --> 01:07:19,440 Speaker 6: Michael Jordan's organization having a team in NASCAR and what 1445 01:07:19,480 --> 01:07:20,000 Speaker 6: they're doing. 1446 01:07:21,200 --> 01:07:24,000 Speaker 1: Bubble drives, bubble drivers, Jordan car yep, yeah, See the 1447 01:07:24,040 --> 01:07:27,480 Speaker 1: problem is Michael Jordan's team in the NBA. Is that 1448 01:07:27,680 --> 01:07:31,280 Speaker 1: organization a laughing stock so far? He also had a 1449 01:07:31,280 --> 01:07:35,800 Speaker 1: motorcycle racing team also too. Really yes, yes, I don't 1450 01:07:35,840 --> 01:07:38,240 Speaker 1: know what it's called, but the GPH. Yeah, when the 1451 01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:40,880 Speaker 1: bikes lean almost all the way to the ground. Michael 1452 01:07:40,920 --> 01:07:43,560 Speaker 1: Jordan owned the team and I remember they got their 1453 01:07:43,600 --> 01:07:45,640 Speaker 1: first win. The cameras were on them in a booth 1454 01:07:45,680 --> 01:07:47,480 Speaker 1: and wanted him to go down, and he goes, nope, 1455 01:07:47,560 --> 01:07:49,520 Speaker 1: this this is their time. But you can see he 1456 01:07:49,560 --> 01:07:52,200 Speaker 1: looked like he just won an NBA championship. Mike, he 1457 01:07:52,280 --> 01:07:54,280 Speaker 1: was just pumping at high five and they were like, 1458 01:07:54,280 --> 01:07:56,200 Speaker 1: go down. He said, no, I want the guys down there, 1459 01:07:56,280 --> 01:07:58,960 Speaker 1: the team, the crew to just I'm just a money man. 1460 01:07:59,040 --> 01:08:02,200 Speaker 1: But but yeah, the competitiveness, oh man, he said he 1461 01:08:02,240 --> 01:08:05,280 Speaker 1: has to do something. He can't just sit. Mike's got 1462 01:08:05,320 --> 01:08:05,840 Speaker 1: to do something. 1463 01:08:05,840 --> 01:08:09,760 Speaker 6: We saw the competitiveness. Kobe Bryant's good example in California 1464 01:08:09,840 --> 01:08:12,920 Speaker 6: for post career. I mean it wasn't sports, but he 1465 01:08:13,080 --> 01:08:16,599 Speaker 6: was just as competitive in his world of entertainment, trying 1466 01:08:16,600 --> 01:08:19,120 Speaker 6: to get things done. And I think when you talk 1467 01:08:19,240 --> 01:08:22,360 Speaker 6: NBA and guys getting into the entertainment world, isn't that 1468 01:08:22,400 --> 01:08:25,439 Speaker 6: the number one reason why Lebron James came to Los Angeles. 1469 01:08:25,520 --> 01:08:26,519 Speaker 3: That's what he tells us. 1470 01:08:26,800 --> 01:08:29,200 Speaker 1: Well, it does not seem as if it was to 1471 01:08:29,200 --> 01:08:30,720 Speaker 1: win a championship. 1472 01:08:31,760 --> 01:08:35,080 Speaker 6: Unless they can make a run as what nine seed 1473 01:08:35,120 --> 01:08:36,320 Speaker 6: they are after last night. 1474 01:08:36,439 --> 01:08:38,280 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they did it last year out of the 1475 01:08:38,320 --> 01:08:38,640 Speaker 1: play in. 1476 01:08:38,760 --> 01:08:42,320 Speaker 2: But again, as if VJ were talking about earlier today 1477 01:08:42,360 --> 01:08:43,160 Speaker 2: when we talked about. 1478 01:08:42,960 --> 01:08:43,639 Speaker 3: The Phoenix Suns. 1479 01:08:44,320 --> 01:08:47,120 Speaker 2: They were made quick work of in that conference finals 1480 01:08:47,160 --> 01:08:48,200 Speaker 2: as the Sun did not lose. 1481 01:08:48,280 --> 01:08:51,200 Speaker 6: Absolutely, find a way to avoid Denver. That's got to 1482 01:08:51,240 --> 01:08:54,080 Speaker 6: be the Lakers thing, because they have done well against 1483 01:08:54,080 --> 01:08:56,960 Speaker 6: the Clippers, they have done well against Oklahoma City, and 1484 01:08:57,000 --> 01:08:59,840 Speaker 6: it's at least mathematically possible that if they can get 1485 01:08:59,880 --> 01:09:02,799 Speaker 6: through through the play in week, Lakers first round series 1486 01:09:02,840 --> 01:09:05,639 Speaker 6: against OKC and the second round series might be against 1487 01:09:05,680 --> 01:09:08,160 Speaker 6: the Clippers. So I think that's what they're banking on. 1488 01:09:08,200 --> 01:09:12,280 Speaker 6: Aside from health. We saw Anthony Davis playing most of 1489 01:09:12,320 --> 01:09:14,400 Speaker 6: the fourth quarter last night with one arm. 1490 01:09:14,560 --> 01:09:16,519 Speaker 1: That was really something that was weird watching that with 1491 01:09:16,680 --> 01:09:19,080 Speaker 1: him just dangling his arm that way to. 1492 01:09:19,120 --> 01:09:20,559 Speaker 6: Get charge and it wasn't healthy. 1493 01:09:20,560 --> 01:09:23,040 Speaker 1: After that, it feels like the talk of him getting 1494 01:09:23,120 --> 01:09:26,240 Speaker 1: hurt all the time and stuff, it's come on, your 1495 01:09:26,320 --> 01:09:29,639 Speaker 1: arm's dangling, bro, Like you can't use on It's it's 1496 01:09:29,800 --> 01:09:32,880 Speaker 1: it's cool, it's old tough guy stuff. It's old school 1497 01:09:32,920 --> 01:09:33,679 Speaker 1: tough guy stuff. 1498 01:09:33,760 --> 01:09:36,200 Speaker 6: But yeah, he did stay in the game, but even 1499 01:09:36,280 --> 01:09:38,920 Speaker 6: the one time that he reached with both arms for 1500 01:09:38,960 --> 01:09:41,240 Speaker 6: a rebound, he was holding the shoulder all the way 1501 01:09:41,240 --> 01:09:43,439 Speaker 6: down the court the other and didn't get the rebound. 1502 01:09:45,640 --> 01:09:51,280 Speaker 1: Not great, Jim, I don't know, Jim. Let me just 1503 01:09:51,280 --> 01:09:53,360 Speaker 1: stuff all over your Super Bowl call while I'm at. 1504 01:09:53,200 --> 01:09:55,840 Speaker 6: It, and make sure that Tony Romo needs to keep 1505 01:09:55,920 --> 01:09:58,960 Speaker 6: drawing the plays after the snap, like still have stuff 1506 01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:01,719 Speaker 6: on the screen while fotball. Let's go again. Hello. 1507 01:10:02,960 --> 01:10:09,200 Speaker 2: Speaking of football, the Competition Committee is proposing a change 1508 01:10:09,200 --> 01:10:10,400 Speaker 2: to the kickoff of VJ. 1509 01:10:10,560 --> 01:10:12,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I saw it. They say. 1510 01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:18,439 Speaker 1: It's called a hybrid kickoff. Let's see. The ball will be. 1511 01:10:18,439 --> 01:10:21,439 Speaker 2: Kicked from the team's thirty kicking teams thirty five yard line. 1512 01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:23,960 Speaker 2: Ten members of the kicking team have to line up 1513 01:10:23,960 --> 01:10:26,600 Speaker 2: on the receiving team's forty, so the other one is 1514 01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:27,000 Speaker 2: the kicker. 1515 01:10:27,040 --> 01:10:28,840 Speaker 3: You line up a little bit past that and get 1516 01:10:28,880 --> 01:10:29,560 Speaker 3: a wind. 1517 01:10:29,360 --> 01:10:29,760 Speaker 1: Up, right. 1518 01:10:30,320 --> 01:10:33,559 Speaker 2: Six members of the receiving team must be lined up 1519 01:10:33,640 --> 01:10:37,120 Speaker 2: on their thirty five yard line at least three more 1520 01:10:37,120 --> 01:10:39,720 Speaker 2: and muff the line between the thirty five and the 1521 01:10:39,800 --> 01:10:43,800 Speaker 2: thirty and one or two players in the landing zone 1522 01:10:43,840 --> 01:10:46,120 Speaker 2: quote unquote, which is between the goal line and the 1523 01:10:46,160 --> 01:10:50,160 Speaker 2: twenty yard line. So the whole point it is, let's 1524 01:10:50,280 --> 01:10:53,640 Speaker 2: try to incentivize kickoffs, right, We've seen we saw some 1525 01:10:53,680 --> 01:10:55,840 Speaker 2: of this in some of the ulterior spring leagues like 1526 01:10:55,840 --> 01:10:56,600 Speaker 2: the XFL. 1527 01:10:57,040 --> 01:10:58,559 Speaker 3: I believe was kicking it like this. 1528 01:10:58,960 --> 01:11:00,720 Speaker 2: If the ball doesn't make it to the twenty one 1529 01:11:00,800 --> 01:11:03,760 Speaker 2: yard line for whatever reason, receiving team gets the ball 1530 01:11:03,880 --> 01:11:06,599 Speaker 2: on the forty. If it enters the end zone on 1531 01:11:06,640 --> 01:11:09,599 Speaker 2: the fly, I'll like a touchback, you know, or goes through, 1532 01:11:09,760 --> 01:11:12,000 Speaker 2: hits the uprights, whatever, they get it on their own 1533 01:11:12,040 --> 01:11:15,439 Speaker 2: thirty five So and no returns from out of the 1534 01:11:15,479 --> 01:11:16,519 Speaker 2: back of the end zone. 1535 01:11:16,720 --> 01:11:20,639 Speaker 1: DJ, how do you feel about these new kickoff rules? 1536 01:11:20,720 --> 01:11:25,679 Speaker 2: And the big one is that on side kicks have 1537 01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:28,479 Speaker 2: to happen in the fourth quarter quarter when the team 1538 01:11:28,520 --> 01:11:29,880 Speaker 2: that just scored is trailing. 1539 01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:32,040 Speaker 6: Yes, and all of this is just for discussion. By 1540 01:11:32,080 --> 01:11:34,519 Speaker 6: the way, there's no official proposal yet and the annual 1541 01:11:34,600 --> 01:11:36,320 Speaker 6: league meeting isn't until late March. 1542 01:11:36,520 --> 01:11:36,560 Speaker 7: No. 1543 01:11:36,880 --> 01:11:37,439 Speaker 3: I like it. 1544 01:11:37,720 --> 01:11:40,040 Speaker 1: I actually like this because this came from the XFL. 1545 01:11:40,320 --> 01:11:43,120 Speaker 1: This is the way that they they do the kickoffs there, 1546 01:11:43,560 --> 01:11:46,200 Speaker 1: And I think you can cut down on injuries because 1547 01:11:46,240 --> 01:11:48,599 Speaker 1: you don't you don't have guys flying down full speed. 1548 01:11:48,600 --> 01:11:50,360 Speaker 1: I get that part of it. But what it does 1549 01:11:50,479 --> 01:11:52,719 Speaker 1: is I feel like it gives us back the kick return. 1550 01:11:53,040 --> 01:11:55,679 Speaker 1: What happened to the kick return's gone in the NFL, 1551 01:11:55,720 --> 01:11:57,080 Speaker 1: I would think the percentage just got to be. 1552 01:11:57,080 --> 01:11:57,280 Speaker 7: Lord. 1553 01:11:57,280 --> 01:11:59,439 Speaker 1: I think are somebody Lord is seven percent of the 1554 01:11:59,520 --> 01:12:02,439 Speaker 1: kickoffs are returned that the kickoff is gone. 1555 01:12:02,600 --> 01:12:06,719 Speaker 6: That's what's on side. Was that number? Yeah, actual kickoffs? 1556 01:12:06,880 --> 01:12:08,920 Speaker 6: He was twenty two percent, but in the Super Bowl 1557 01:12:08,920 --> 01:12:11,639 Speaker 6: recently it was thirteen kickoffs thirteen touchback thirteen. 1558 01:12:11,720 --> 01:12:14,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, we need we need kick returns back. 1559 01:12:14,200 --> 01:12:16,479 Speaker 6: So this is a way to get still blocking, still 1560 01:12:16,479 --> 01:12:19,840 Speaker 6: a return, but not running fifty yards and blowing somebody up. 1561 01:12:19,920 --> 01:12:22,240 Speaker 1: In a year that you let a kick returner into 1562 01:12:22,280 --> 01:12:24,559 Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame, right, in a year you let 1563 01:12:24,560 --> 01:12:26,040 Speaker 1: a kick return into the Hall of Fame. 1564 01:12:26,080 --> 01:12:27,320 Speaker 3: So I love this. 1565 01:12:27,400 --> 01:12:31,240 Speaker 1: If it's going to bring back kick returns, actual kick returns, 1566 01:12:31,320 --> 01:12:34,599 Speaker 1: I am all four. I don't care how you do it. 1567 01:12:34,840 --> 01:12:37,559 Speaker 1: I kind of like starting the teams closer together. I 1568 01:12:37,600 --> 01:12:39,760 Speaker 1: think you can add some type of like this will 1569 01:12:39,800 --> 01:12:42,839 Speaker 1: give a doesn't just give like a mass scientist special 1570 01:12:42,840 --> 01:12:46,880 Speaker 1: teams coach, Like Okay, what can I cook up here? 1571 01:12:47,080 --> 01:12:49,360 Speaker 1: Now that I got this this room tour, Like I 1572 01:12:49,400 --> 01:12:52,040 Speaker 1: could see some trickery coming with this stuff. Man, I'm 1573 01:12:52,080 --> 01:12:54,639 Speaker 1: excited for I hope they propose to Steve. I hope 1574 01:12:54,680 --> 01:12:56,639 Speaker 1: they put it out there, and I hope they implement 1575 01:12:56,680 --> 01:12:58,880 Speaker 1: it so that we bring something back to the game. 1576 01:12:58,920 --> 01:13:02,040 Speaker 1: I don't like when pros sport leagues take part of 1577 01:13:02,080 --> 01:13:06,280 Speaker 1: the actual game away. So when you when you when 1578 01:13:06,280 --> 01:13:09,320 Speaker 1: you move the kickup line back and the ball goes 1579 01:13:09,360 --> 01:13:11,479 Speaker 1: in the end zone, guys can fair catch it. It's like, no, 1580 01:13:11,800 --> 01:13:14,679 Speaker 1: that's a live ball. We're regardless. You have to catch 1581 01:13:14,680 --> 01:13:16,920 Speaker 1: it and take a knee like the old school way 1582 01:13:16,920 --> 01:13:19,920 Speaker 1: in the end zone. Now did the kickoffs is gone? 1583 01:13:20,120 --> 01:13:22,360 Speaker 1: Now I want the kickoff returns back. If this brings 1584 01:13:22,360 --> 01:13:26,160 Speaker 1: the kickoff returns, batman, I am I'm one also in 1585 01:13:26,320 --> 01:13:28,840 Speaker 1: with this one. I like the old XFL way they 1586 01:13:28,920 --> 01:13:29,720 Speaker 1: used to do the coin toss. 1587 01:13:29,760 --> 01:13:31,360 Speaker 3: Do you remember that? Yeah? 1588 01:13:31,439 --> 01:13:34,120 Speaker 1: Yes, set the ball at the fifty me and you 1589 01:13:34,280 --> 01:13:35,519 Speaker 1: steve at the thirty. 1590 01:13:35,720 --> 01:13:38,160 Speaker 9: That's exactly what they're trying to avoid on the kickoffs. 1591 01:13:39,400 --> 01:13:42,600 Speaker 9: Whoever recovers the ball, your team gets the ball. You 1592 01:13:42,640 --> 01:13:46,120 Speaker 9: get to choose whether, oh what come on man, bring 1593 01:13:46,240 --> 01:13:46,599 Speaker 9: that one? 1594 01:13:46,920 --> 01:13:51,840 Speaker 1: Bring? Yes? Yeah? Rod Smart what doll And played for 1595 01:13:51,840 --> 01:13:54,040 Speaker 1: the Saints. Yes, I will say you hate me. 1596 01:13:54,920 --> 01:13:58,400 Speaker 2: The biggest issue to me with the NFL kickoff situation 1597 01:13:58,560 --> 01:14:01,200 Speaker 2: right now is the fact that they're the onside kick 1598 01:14:01,280 --> 01:14:06,360 Speaker 2: is dead, Like there's no chance you have no shot 1599 01:14:06,439 --> 01:14:10,080 Speaker 2: at receiving an I mean, to even think about it 1600 01:14:10,120 --> 01:14:14,120 Speaker 2: is kind of crazy, Like you can't buckle it into 1601 01:14:14,160 --> 01:14:18,120 Speaker 2: your plans in any any substantial way. You can't plan 1602 01:14:18,320 --> 01:14:21,280 Speaker 2: to get one because there is infrequency in which that 1603 01:14:21,360 --> 01:14:23,880 Speaker 2: it happens. You've got to figure out a way for 1604 01:14:23,960 --> 01:14:26,000 Speaker 2: the team that is losing. Because you want to talk 1605 01:14:26,040 --> 01:14:27,439 Speaker 2: about taking kicks out of the game. 1606 01:14:27,960 --> 01:14:28,479 Speaker 3: One of the. 1607 01:14:28,400 --> 01:14:34,320 Speaker 2: Most exciting kicks in the game is the successfully recovered 1608 01:14:34,360 --> 01:14:38,599 Speaker 2: a side right. And now I can put off one 1609 01:14:38,640 --> 01:14:41,519 Speaker 2: hand the amount of times in the last three years 1610 01:14:41,560 --> 01:14:43,840 Speaker 2: that onside kicker was recovered. Remember when Dallas kicked the 1611 01:14:43,920 --> 01:14:47,519 Speaker 2: onside kick against Atlanta and they water meloned it ten 1612 01:14:47,640 --> 01:14:52,760 Speaker 2: yards and that very cowboys over the cow like you 1613 01:14:52,840 --> 01:14:56,599 Speaker 2: gotta you want to talk about some gamesmanship. So we've 1614 01:14:56,600 --> 01:14:59,400 Speaker 2: got to figure out a way to get the team 1615 01:14:59,439 --> 01:15:02,559 Speaker 2: that is loose using the opportunity to try to recover 1616 01:15:02,640 --> 01:15:04,840 Speaker 2: the ball in a way that is meaningful. 1617 01:15:04,920 --> 01:15:07,240 Speaker 6: And this might be baked into the proposal, the trade 1618 01:15:07,240 --> 01:15:10,439 Speaker 6: off being perhaps okay, you have to declare on side 1619 01:15:10,520 --> 01:15:13,360 Speaker 6: kick in advance late in the game. But the tradeoff 1620 01:15:13,520 --> 01:15:16,360 Speaker 6: is will allow you to have an unbalanced formation, more 1621 01:15:16,400 --> 01:15:19,080 Speaker 6: guys on side of the kicker than the other, instead 1622 01:15:19,120 --> 01:15:19,840 Speaker 6: of the current rules. 1623 01:15:19,840 --> 01:15:22,120 Speaker 1: Because to me, that's what killed it. When you when 1624 01:15:22,160 --> 01:15:24,760 Speaker 1: you can only have a certain it's like, come on, bro, 1625 01:15:24,880 --> 01:15:26,280 Speaker 1: they can't go recover that. 1626 01:15:26,479 --> 01:15:27,519 Speaker 3: Like the odds. 1627 01:15:27,760 --> 01:15:30,439 Speaker 1: It's gonna have to hit somebody and bounce, so somebody's 1628 01:15:30,439 --> 01:15:31,320 Speaker 1: gonna have to drop it. 1629 01:15:31,560 --> 01:15:32,360 Speaker 3: Rarely do you see it? 1630 01:15:32,400 --> 01:15:34,720 Speaker 1: Take that old school Steve, remember the one two three, 1631 01:15:35,400 --> 01:15:37,519 Speaker 1: that's what you want. You want that big bounce and 1632 01:15:37,560 --> 01:15:39,960 Speaker 1: a guy going down taking out the gunner, the second 1633 01:15:39,960 --> 01:15:42,200 Speaker 1: guy coming trying, and the second guy coming to jump. 1634 01:15:42,439 --> 01:15:45,880 Speaker 1: I missed that in the game. But also the only 1635 01:15:45,920 --> 01:15:48,320 Speaker 1: thing about this rule I don't like. If you make 1636 01:15:48,360 --> 01:15:51,200 Speaker 1: it only in the fourth quarter, we don't get Sean 1637 01:15:51,280 --> 01:15:54,160 Speaker 1: Payton the surprise this there you go so coming out 1638 01:15:54,160 --> 01:15:57,479 Speaker 1: of you don't get that. 1639 01:15:57,760 --> 01:16:01,080 Speaker 6: They said there were only too surprise on kicks last season, 1640 01:16:01,720 --> 01:16:04,160 Speaker 6: and obviously with the alignment, I'm sure that has something. 1641 01:16:04,200 --> 01:16:06,960 Speaker 1: Bill Cower pulled it off also too, and a Super Bowl, 1642 01:16:07,040 --> 01:16:11,040 Speaker 1: didn't he Oh yes, yes, coward, coward could score second. 1643 01:16:12,320 --> 01:16:15,400 Speaker 2: Surprises showing Peyton this year I know he tried to 1644 01:16:15,439 --> 01:16:17,679 Speaker 2: attempt an on side kick when it was not expected, 1645 01:16:17,920 --> 01:16:19,200 Speaker 2: like at the start of a game, but I can't 1646 01:16:19,200 --> 01:16:20,640 Speaker 2: remember who was actually recovered or not. 1647 01:16:20,720 --> 01:16:20,880 Speaker 4: Well. 1648 01:16:20,880 --> 01:16:23,560 Speaker 6: He attempted many things this past year that we're not successful. 1649 01:16:23,680 --> 01:16:24,240 Speaker 3: That is true. 1650 01:16:24,280 --> 01:16:26,360 Speaker 1: They still attempting a bunch of stuff in Denver. 1651 01:16:26,240 --> 01:16:26,800 Speaker 3: That is true. 1652 01:16:26,840 --> 01:16:29,920 Speaker 1: Coming up next, me and VEJ will attempt to go 1653 01:16:29,960 --> 01:16:33,240 Speaker 1: ahead and guess who you Got with our big producer, 1654 01:16:33,280 --> 01:16:36,439 Speaker 1: Big Pat Martin Martin VJ coming to your life at 1655 01:16:36,479 --> 01:16:39,160 Speaker 1: the Tireck dot Com studios, Martin Weiss VJ Husky. 1656 01:16:39,200 --> 01:16:41,519 Speaker 2: We're on Twitter at Martin Weiss VJ. Is that the 1657 01:16:41,560 --> 01:16:45,360 Speaker 2: big Vanilla funny Pat. Let's get it started, guy, Who 1658 01:16:45,400 --> 01:16:45,800 Speaker 2: you Got? 1659 01:16:45,880 --> 01:16:49,559 Speaker 10: Alright, So, guys, what we're going for this week's version 1660 01:16:49,640 --> 01:16:52,360 Speaker 10: of Who You Got? We're gonna go with the topic 1661 01:16:52,439 --> 01:16:54,839 Speaker 10: of free agent signings in the NFL. 1662 01:16:54,960 --> 01:16:56,240 Speaker 1: So this is an NFL player. 1663 01:16:56,280 --> 01:16:58,360 Speaker 10: Guys, let's stave it off with the three hints I'm 1664 01:16:58,360 --> 01:16:59,880 Speaker 10: gonna give you, and then we'll go back and forth. 1665 01:17:00,240 --> 01:17:00,760 Speaker 1: Number One. 1666 01:17:01,360 --> 01:17:05,320 Speaker 10: In two consecutive years, this man was a one time 1667 01:17:06,160 --> 01:17:09,400 Speaker 10: first team All Pro on the offensive side, and then 1668 01:17:09,439 --> 01:17:12,760 Speaker 10: the next year was his second team All Pro so 1669 01:17:12,800 --> 01:17:17,040 Speaker 10: that's number one, number two. This man has made four 1670 01:17:17,240 --> 01:17:20,720 Speaker 10: Pro Bowls in his entire NFL career, and the last 1671 01:17:20,760 --> 01:17:22,320 Speaker 10: one before we go to the next round will be 1672 01:17:22,720 --> 01:17:25,920 Speaker 10: He played for Tennessee in college for about four years 1673 01:17:26,240 --> 01:17:31,280 Speaker 10: before he went undrafted in two thousand and nine. Martin VJ. 1674 01:17:31,880 --> 01:17:34,760 Speaker 10: Who you got? Who wants to take a swig at it? 1675 01:17:35,560 --> 01:17:39,400 Speaker 2: Offensive player undrafted out of Tennessee from two thousand and nine. 1676 01:17:39,479 --> 01:17:42,320 Speaker 2: Two time first team All Pro, one time second team 1677 01:17:42,360 --> 01:17:43,960 Speaker 2: All Pro, four time Pro bowler. 1678 01:17:44,040 --> 01:17:49,479 Speaker 1: Yes, sir, you are correct well describing him. I think 1679 01:17:49,520 --> 01:17:50,200 Speaker 1: I know who it is. 1680 01:17:50,520 --> 01:17:54,200 Speaker 3: Does he play tight end? No? All right, I got 1681 01:17:54,320 --> 01:17:55,439 Speaker 3: was gonna guess John new Smith. 1682 01:17:55,439 --> 01:17:58,120 Speaker 10: I feel like that's an answer. No, No, John, U 1683 01:18:00,000 --> 01:18:01,559 Speaker 10: about you? What about you? Big husky? 1684 01:18:01,640 --> 01:18:05,479 Speaker 1: Got something undrafted? As what's getting to me right right? See? 1685 01:18:05,479 --> 01:18:07,599 Speaker 10: I was gett I always get at least one drafted 1686 01:18:07,640 --> 01:18:11,200 Speaker 10: as it's always your college, that the college that screws. 1687 01:18:10,840 --> 01:18:12,439 Speaker 1: Me up with you, But this time it was undrafted. 1688 01:18:12,439 --> 01:18:17,280 Speaker 1: It was the undrafted I know, so balls undrafted offensive player, 1689 01:18:17,560 --> 01:18:22,240 Speaker 1: four time Pro bowler. And if you're if you're if 1690 01:18:22,240 --> 01:18:23,640 Speaker 1: you're thinking too hard and I can just go to 1691 01:18:23,680 --> 01:18:26,320 Speaker 1: the next one. All Pro two thousand and nine. So 1692 01:18:26,400 --> 01:18:28,439 Speaker 1: it's not see in my head. I'm just running through 1693 01:18:28,439 --> 01:18:30,200 Speaker 1: them like peerless price. But no, he was drafted by 1694 01:18:30,200 --> 01:18:33,559 Speaker 1: Buffalo Reggie White. Nope, that was in the eighties. VJ. 1695 01:18:36,240 --> 01:18:38,040 Speaker 1: Go to the next, all right, next one, number four. 1696 01:18:38,320 --> 01:18:40,479 Speaker 10: He competed on the track and field team as a 1697 01:18:40,520 --> 01:18:42,800 Speaker 10: sprinter and high jumper before his NFL. 1698 01:18:42,520 --> 01:18:45,200 Speaker 3: Career, before his NFL career. 1699 01:18:45,320 --> 01:18:48,400 Speaker 1: For his NFL career out of Tennessee. So now's a 1700 01:18:48,439 --> 01:18:51,479 Speaker 1: speed easter. So now speed Oh he's a speedster all right, 1701 01:18:51,560 --> 01:18:52,400 Speaker 1: out of Tennessee. 1702 01:18:53,520 --> 01:18:55,040 Speaker 3: They're young at the radio right now. 1703 01:18:54,880 --> 01:18:59,160 Speaker 1: You idiots. They don't know it. Let's if y'all ain't 1704 01:18:59,200 --> 01:19:00,920 Speaker 1: looking up of y'all to if you ain't going to 1705 01:19:00,920 --> 01:19:03,240 Speaker 1: tennis fan, No, none of y'all know it. 1706 01:19:03,280 --> 01:19:04,840 Speaker 10: I'll tell you what. I'll throw you in one more 1707 01:19:04,840 --> 01:19:06,519 Speaker 10: for free, just to get a move on. It was 1708 01:19:06,560 --> 01:19:09,720 Speaker 10: a two time NFL rushing leader and a one time 1709 01:19:09,880 --> 01:19:13,960 Speaker 10: NFL rushing yark. He's rushing touchdown leader for a long time. 1710 01:19:14,280 --> 01:19:19,600 Speaker 1: Yet, oh god, it's not Jamal No, No, I know 1711 01:19:19,720 --> 01:19:22,439 Speaker 1: I got his face. I got his face. I don't 1712 01:19:22,520 --> 01:19:22,920 Speaker 1: run it back. 1713 01:19:23,000 --> 01:19:24,240 Speaker 3: Dam I got his name though. 1714 01:19:24,360 --> 01:19:29,559 Speaker 1: Okay, we'll go ahead. Yeah, he's saying, watch Foster, Yeah, 1715 01:19:30,880 --> 01:19:34,320 Speaker 1: let's go. Damn it. I know, I know you knew 1716 01:19:34,360 --> 01:19:37,479 Speaker 1: it too that I want to give you. 1717 01:19:37,479 --> 01:19:38,240 Speaker 3: But had his face. 1718 01:19:38,240 --> 01:19:40,960 Speaker 1: I had his face. Man, you had the physicality. Martin 1719 01:19:41,040 --> 01:19:44,840 Speaker 1: had the name. J No, No, I didn't get it. 1720 01:19:44,880 --> 01:19:47,479 Speaker 1: Give me a cereal pat on the back. 1721 01:19:47,560 --> 01:19:48,840 Speaker 3: I do no pats on the back. 1722 01:19:49,640 --> 01:19:51,840 Speaker 1: Patrick will give a pat on the back for that one. 1723 01:19:52,160 --> 01:19:53,120 Speaker 1: Thank you his game. 1724 01:19:53,120 --> 01:19:54,839 Speaker 3: It's okay, it's Patrick. 1725 01:19:54,880 --> 01:19:56,920 Speaker 1: You're good at it. Brother. Hey man, you guys, you 1726 01:19:56,920 --> 01:19:58,200 Speaker 1: got you guys got me at this one. 1727 01:19:58,200 --> 01:19:58,320 Speaker 4: Man. 1728 01:19:58,360 --> 01:19:59,880 Speaker 10: I couldn't put in running BA because it would have 1729 01:19:59,880 --> 01:20:02,600 Speaker 10: been easy. You would have been ahead of the stretcher falls. 1730 01:20:02,320 --> 01:20:04,679 Speaker 2: Through if you started I was running back. It would 1731 01:20:04,680 --> 01:20:07,760 Speaker 2: have taken me a second. But if you had started 1732 01:20:07,760 --> 01:20:09,200 Speaker 2: with running back and then would he was a two 1733 01:20:09,240 --> 01:20:10,439 Speaker 2: time first of all, probably be. 1734 01:20:10,400 --> 01:20:12,040 Speaker 10: Like, oh thanks, well, I would have said he played 1735 01:20:12,080 --> 01:20:13,880 Speaker 10: for two teams and seconds and the Dolphins in a 1736 01:20:13,920 --> 01:20:15,760 Speaker 10: way he started the script talk to just y'. 1737 01:20:15,840 --> 01:20:18,559 Speaker 2: Know coming up next? Is this going to be the 1738 01:20:18,720 --> 01:20:21,280 Speaker 2: end of the NC double A. We'll see Martin v J. 1739 01:20:21,360 --> 01:20:26,880 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. That's right, we're broadcasting liar from the 1740 01:20:26,920 --> 01:20:29,880 Speaker 2: tire rack dot com Studios ti iraq dot com. We'll 1741 01:20:29,880 --> 01:20:32,599 Speaker 2: help you get there with an unmaxed election, fast free shipping, 1742 01:20:32,640 --> 01:20:35,599 Speaker 2: free rodize of protection. Over ten thousand recommended this dollars 1743 01:20:35,640 --> 01:20:37,599 Speaker 2: tire rack dot com. 1744 01:20:37,640 --> 01:20:39,080 Speaker 3: It's the way tire buying should be. 1745 01:20:39,600 --> 01:20:39,840 Speaker 1: VJ. 1746 01:20:40,520 --> 01:20:43,360 Speaker 2: I don't like to hate on another man's job, but 1747 01:20:43,439 --> 01:20:48,200 Speaker 2: I think that Joe Lunardi has the easiest job in sports. Oh, 1748 01:20:48,400 --> 01:20:51,439 Speaker 2: because it's like you never get checked on it, right, 1749 01:20:51,479 --> 01:20:54,679 Speaker 2: you never get really get checked on, you know, if 1750 01:20:54,720 --> 01:20:56,880 Speaker 2: this team really made it in or really made it out. 1751 01:20:56,920 --> 01:20:59,040 Speaker 1: Joe Lonardi's famous I just saw it just now. He 1752 01:20:59,080 --> 01:21:01,680 Speaker 1: popped out Looks Providence right now was his first. 1753 01:21:01,400 --> 01:21:05,559 Speaker 2: Four out right, Like in reality, it's it's like predicting 1754 01:21:05,560 --> 01:21:08,920 Speaker 2: who's gonna make the playoffs in week six and then 1755 01:21:08,960 --> 01:21:11,040 Speaker 2: it just continues to move and then afterwards just like, 1756 01:21:11,080 --> 01:21:12,720 Speaker 2: oh wait, well this team won the division, so they're 1757 01:21:12,720 --> 01:21:13,400 Speaker 2: definitely going. 1758 01:21:14,080 --> 01:21:17,280 Speaker 1: But real quick before we move on, because the second 1759 01:21:17,360 --> 01:21:20,920 Speaker 1: round the second round player best second round player thing 1760 01:21:21,360 --> 01:21:24,439 Speaker 1: drew the attention of one of our faithful listeners that's 1761 01:21:24,439 --> 01:21:27,720 Speaker 1: always on the show listener and tweeted that there are 1762 01:21:27,960 --> 01:21:30,840 Speaker 1: three He gave me he thinks there's three that were 1763 01:21:30,840 --> 01:21:35,800 Speaker 1: better second round picked than Jokich Andremond Green. Nate Archibald, 1764 01:21:35,920 --> 01:21:39,760 Speaker 1: mister tiny Spencer Haywood was one of them also too. 1765 01:21:39,840 --> 01:21:42,120 Speaker 1: That's another you know, there was another dope player two there. 1766 01:21:42,520 --> 01:21:45,320 Speaker 1: And George McInnis if you remember him from the old 1767 01:21:45,560 --> 01:21:47,840 Speaker 1: ABA Pacers turned in. See. 1768 01:21:47,880 --> 01:21:49,559 Speaker 3: That's the thing though, I want to throw that out. 1769 01:21:49,640 --> 01:21:51,839 Speaker 1: They've been second round picks, but they were already professional 1770 01:21:51,840 --> 01:21:57,120 Speaker 1: basketball player. Mister George Sands at George Sands fifty eight, 1771 01:21:57,280 --> 01:21:59,679 Speaker 1: you already played in the late already played in a league, 1772 01:22:00,080 --> 01:22:00,960 Speaker 1: the league, but a lead. 1773 01:22:01,080 --> 01:22:02,680 Speaker 3: All right, hey, George, you hear you? 1774 01:22:02,720 --> 01:22:04,640 Speaker 1: Hear his response? Man, go ahead and tweet him at 1775 01:22:04,640 --> 01:22:05,120 Speaker 1: Martin White. 1776 01:22:05,240 --> 01:22:07,080 Speaker 2: This is that's the That's the thing about the old 1777 01:22:07,120 --> 01:22:09,960 Speaker 2: George sandsy boy. He likes to put in his little 1778 01:22:10,160 --> 01:22:15,760 Speaker 2: asterisk tribunes. It's like he's always something like this. This 1779 01:22:15,760 --> 01:22:18,719 Speaker 2: this team didn't draft. He was quiet through free agency, 1780 01:22:18,760 --> 01:22:19,479 Speaker 2: all right, buddy. 1781 01:22:19,560 --> 01:22:21,519 Speaker 1: He likes the trivia too. He likes he likes who 1782 01:22:21,600 --> 01:22:24,479 Speaker 1: you Got Patrick, Just so you know there's another listener 1783 01:22:24,680 --> 01:22:27,280 Speaker 1: that uh that's real big on on your who you Got. 1784 01:22:27,280 --> 01:22:28,760 Speaker 1: He likes the timing with that. So yeah, but I 1785 01:22:29,160 --> 01:22:32,640 Speaker 1: mean tiny Nate Archibald, and I think he's got a 1786 01:22:32,680 --> 01:22:36,200 Speaker 1: case there. Man, I would probably still Jokic to me 1787 01:22:36,320 --> 01:22:38,880 Speaker 1: is far and away. The number. Well, you hear you, 1788 01:22:38,920 --> 01:22:41,360 Speaker 1: hear you hear him, George. So it's between y'all two man. 1789 01:22:41,360 --> 01:22:44,320 Speaker 1: I'm stepping aside Dan ding Go. But the reason why 1790 01:22:44,400 --> 01:22:48,320 Speaker 1: I mentioned Joe Lunardi is because I think. 1791 01:22:48,120 --> 01:22:49,679 Speaker 3: The grift might be over soon. 1792 01:22:50,360 --> 01:22:56,120 Speaker 2: M new in season men's college basketball tournament tournament to 1793 01:22:56,240 --> 01:23:00,920 Speaker 2: offer two million dollars in ni L deals. Eight team event, 1794 01:23:01,200 --> 01:23:04,200 Speaker 2: which plans to expand to sixteen teams in twenty twenty five, 1795 01:23:04,240 --> 01:23:07,280 Speaker 2: will pay out one million to each team to participates, 1796 01:23:08,280 --> 01:23:11,679 Speaker 2: and then one million extra to the winner. The Players 1797 01:23:11,760 --> 01:23:15,240 Speaker 2: Era tournament is gonna host eight teams at MGM Arena 1798 01:23:15,280 --> 01:23:18,160 Speaker 2: in Las Vegas sixteen starting in twenty twenty five. It's 1799 01:23:18,240 --> 01:23:20,280 Speaker 2: operated by a whole bunch of people who are richer 1800 01:23:20,320 --> 01:23:24,800 Speaker 2: than us, okay, and they guarantee a million for participating 1801 01:23:24,840 --> 01:23:29,519 Speaker 2: and then another million to win. Sources with knowledge of 1802 01:23:29,560 --> 01:23:32,960 Speaker 2: the situation say that the organizer and discussions with Alabama, 1803 01:23:33,040 --> 01:23:39,080 Speaker 2: Duke Florida, Atlanta, Houston, Kansas, Oregon, San Diego State, Saint John, Syracuse. 1804 01:23:38,520 --> 01:23:44,000 Speaker 1: And Virginia. Virginia does not actually play the most entertaining 1805 01:23:44,000 --> 01:23:46,880 Speaker 1: brand of basketball. But that's neither here nor there, because 1806 01:23:46,920 --> 01:23:53,920 Speaker 1: here's the deal, VJ. The NCAA, in my opinion, is 1807 01:23:53,960 --> 01:23:57,919 Speaker 1: hanging on by a thread right now with the influx 1808 01:23:57,960 --> 01:24:01,760 Speaker 1: of NIO. There's no no longer well, we got to 1809 01:24:01,800 --> 01:24:04,519 Speaker 1: punish this guy for getting paid ala Chris Weber in 1810 01:24:04,520 --> 01:24:05,799 Speaker 1: the Fab five at Michigan. 1811 01:24:05,880 --> 01:24:08,360 Speaker 3: Right, that's no longer in thing. 1812 01:24:08,920 --> 01:24:12,360 Speaker 2: It'd be like the police if speeding was no longer ilegal. 1813 01:24:13,320 --> 01:24:18,160 Speaker 2: I'm not saying they're irrelevant, However, a big part of 1814 01:24:18,200 --> 01:24:23,040 Speaker 2: the job is now off the table. If this tournament 1815 01:24:23,080 --> 01:24:27,599 Speaker 2: blows up, this will replace March Madness, because right now, 1816 01:24:27,680 --> 01:24:29,000 Speaker 2: you gotta pay to play. 1817 01:24:28,720 --> 01:24:31,200 Speaker 3: In March Madness. You gotta pay to travel to go 1818 01:24:31,240 --> 01:24:31,920 Speaker 3: to all the games. 1819 01:24:31,920 --> 01:24:33,720 Speaker 2: You gotta do all this and that that's why you 1820 01:24:33,760 --> 01:24:36,599 Speaker 2: used to you year school like Saint Peter's, Right, Remember 1821 01:24:36,640 --> 01:24:39,800 Speaker 2: Saint Peter's with Holloway as the head coach and Doug 1822 01:24:39,840 --> 01:24:44,639 Speaker 2: Adder Remember that little kid coming off the bed shooting threes. Yes, sir, 1823 01:24:44,720 --> 01:24:47,960 Speaker 2: it's hard for them to get around cause they don't 1824 01:24:47,960 --> 01:24:50,920 Speaker 2: have the same athletic department budget as Duke or North 1825 01:24:50,920 --> 01:24:54,320 Speaker 2: Carolina or Michigan or USC or any of the other schools. Right, 1826 01:24:54,880 --> 01:24:56,920 Speaker 2: it's gonna be really hard for them to get around 1827 01:24:56,920 --> 01:24:58,840 Speaker 2: to travel all these games and so on and so forth. 1828 01:24:58,880 --> 01:25:02,639 Speaker 2: But every year when March have these cinderellas, Right, you 1829 01:25:02,680 --> 01:25:04,840 Speaker 2: mean to tell me, if I'm a small school, you 1830 01:25:04,920 --> 01:25:05,519 Speaker 2: go offer me this. 1831 01:25:06,280 --> 01:25:08,599 Speaker 1: I can get a million just to go, just to go. 1832 01:25:08,800 --> 01:25:11,040 Speaker 1: That might be more than the basketball program made all 1833 01:25:11,120 --> 01:25:13,160 Speaker 1: year a year long. Yeah, it's about to say. 1834 01:25:13,000 --> 01:25:15,559 Speaker 2: I get a million just to go and don't let 1835 01:25:15,640 --> 01:25:19,320 Speaker 2: us mess around and win it. Yeah, then this right here, 1836 01:25:19,960 --> 01:25:24,200 Speaker 2: if there's no more March madness and all the NCAA 1837 01:25:24,400 --> 01:25:27,160 Speaker 2: as is a college football playoff, which they already don't 1838 01:25:27,200 --> 01:25:31,160 Speaker 2: care about, right because remember CFP said, no, we don't 1839 01:25:31,160 --> 01:25:32,320 Speaker 2: give a damn what y'all talking about. 1840 01:25:32,360 --> 01:25:33,080 Speaker 3: Michigan and Harball. 1841 01:25:33,160 --> 01:25:35,840 Speaker 1: They're coming in, they're coming in, They're they're gonna play. 1842 01:25:35,880 --> 01:25:39,519 Speaker 1: They're playing, they're undefeated, they're playing in the playoff. Right 1843 01:25:40,080 --> 01:25:44,040 Speaker 1: outside of that, what's the ncb A supposed to do? Like, 1844 01:25:44,080 --> 01:25:47,679 Speaker 1: what is their relevance? What is their job? That's going away? 1845 01:25:48,240 --> 01:25:52,440 Speaker 1: It's going away. I actually I actually love this idea. 1846 01:25:52,560 --> 01:25:55,639 Speaker 1: I love the idea of shaking things up. I don't 1847 01:25:55,640 --> 01:25:59,320 Speaker 1: mind things being shook up because it forces the world 1848 01:25:59,400 --> 01:26:04,519 Speaker 1: in society to evolve. Like I remember when smartphones first 1849 01:26:04,560 --> 01:26:07,639 Speaker 1: came out. I heard people that say, I'll never use 1850 01:26:07,720 --> 01:26:10,599 Speaker 1: one of those. Those things are so dumb, this and 1851 01:26:10,640 --> 01:26:13,280 Speaker 1: that and all, and it's gonna ruin the kids. It's 1852 01:26:13,320 --> 01:26:16,240 Speaker 1: gonna ruin this, It's gonna shake things up. You either 1853 01:26:16,320 --> 01:26:20,720 Speaker 1: evolve or you perish. You adapt, are you perish? And 1854 01:26:21,040 --> 01:26:24,679 Speaker 1: the NC double A you don't wanna adapt. I said 1855 01:26:24,720 --> 01:26:26,760 Speaker 1: the same thing the other night about Nick Saban. You 1856 01:26:26,800 --> 01:26:29,000 Speaker 1: don't want to do it the way that it's being done. 1857 01:26:29,720 --> 01:26:32,479 Speaker 1: Don't talk about how bad it is. This is the 1858 01:26:32,479 --> 01:26:35,400 Speaker 1: way that it's gonna be done. Listen, we're five to 1859 01:26:35,520 --> 01:26:37,720 Speaker 1: six years away from players getting to a piece of 1860 01:26:37,720 --> 01:26:42,160 Speaker 1: the TV revenue. Jimmy Buggers started that talk. But they 1861 01:26:42,200 --> 01:26:46,000 Speaker 1: should get some of the TV revenue. We're watching them. 1862 01:26:46,560 --> 01:26:49,519 Speaker 1: It's not like the schools are paying the kids. They 1863 01:26:49,520 --> 01:26:52,880 Speaker 1: are allowed to just make money off their name and 1864 01:26:52,960 --> 01:26:58,640 Speaker 1: their likeness and their image. The schools don't pay kids. Companies, 1865 01:26:59,000 --> 01:27:02,400 Speaker 1: rich people, bus hit friends of the program, those old 1866 01:27:02,439 --> 01:27:05,479 Speaker 1: school friends of the program. That's where that money's going. 1867 01:27:05,680 --> 01:27:08,120 Speaker 1: Is that money is coming from. I love this idea. 1868 01:27:08,400 --> 01:27:10,320 Speaker 1: I want the n C double A to leave as 1869 01:27:10,360 --> 01:27:13,200 Speaker 1: bad as I want Lebron to leave the Lakers. I 1870 01:27:13,240 --> 01:27:16,720 Speaker 1: want the n C double A gone gone. You've been 1871 01:27:16,840 --> 01:27:20,320 Speaker 1: ripping kids off. This is like Spike Mass Spike Lee 1872 01:27:20,439 --> 01:27:23,160 Speaker 1: seven years ago. They're the biggest pimps on the block. 1873 01:27:23,560 --> 01:27:27,960 Speaker 1: The MC double as straight pimps. You go get my money. 1874 01:27:28,479 --> 01:27:32,160 Speaker 1: And and here here's a sandwich after Martin. You think 1875 01:27:32,240 --> 01:27:35,479 Speaker 1: you think these programs like all feed kids the best 1876 01:27:35,479 --> 01:27:40,599 Speaker 1: at Martin. I call Division one college football, dude. After games, 1877 01:27:40,640 --> 01:27:43,080 Speaker 1: they're here. Some of these schools are handing kids a 1878 01:27:43,200 --> 01:27:46,679 Speaker 1: sack lunch dog with a sandwich from the local deli 1879 01:27:46,920 --> 01:27:50,160 Speaker 1: and two cookies and a bag of chips. I've literally 1880 01:27:50,240 --> 01:27:53,080 Speaker 1: watched the Vision one college players on a flight like 1881 01:27:53,360 --> 01:27:55,519 Speaker 1: switch switch, hey man, let me get your barbecue for 1882 01:27:55,640 --> 01:27:57,479 Speaker 1: my for my sour creemon none you hey man, you 1883 01:27:57,520 --> 01:28:00,639 Speaker 1: gonna eat your cookie like they're scrapping for Ooh. Well, 1884 01:28:00,680 --> 01:28:02,840 Speaker 1: Chendo was a Carolina This jacket I'm wearing that I 1885 01:28:02,880 --> 01:28:04,600 Speaker 1: have one. This is from Carolina. 1886 01:28:04,920 --> 01:28:05,519 Speaker 3: This was there. 1887 01:28:05,840 --> 01:28:08,439 Speaker 1: This was their jacket they wore on the road when 1888 01:28:08,479 --> 01:28:11,920 Speaker 1: you're traveling. His sophomore year there. But when he gave 1889 01:28:11,960 --> 01:28:13,280 Speaker 1: it to me, I said, no, bra, I don't want 1890 01:28:13,280 --> 01:28:15,160 Speaker 1: the one you got. Can you just like give me? 1891 01:28:15,200 --> 01:28:18,320 Speaker 1: I'm I'm thinking, you're you just get me play for Carolina. 1892 01:28:18,400 --> 01:28:20,200 Speaker 1: You're ken no more, you're an All American. 1893 01:28:20,280 --> 01:28:20,800 Speaker 3: He looked at me. 1894 01:28:20,840 --> 01:28:23,439 Speaker 1: He said, yo, V it's not like that. I said, okay, 1895 01:28:23,560 --> 01:28:25,880 Speaker 1: like like a pair of shorts or something. He gave 1896 01:28:25,880 --> 01:28:27,960 Speaker 1: me the shorts that he wore the night they beat 1897 01:28:28,000 --> 01:28:28,920 Speaker 1: Duke Onner to see your night. 1898 01:28:29,040 --> 01:28:30,760 Speaker 3: I laid them on my bed today for the game. 1899 01:28:30,840 --> 01:28:31,639 Speaker 3: I have those shorts. 1900 01:28:31,680 --> 01:28:34,679 Speaker 1: But I'm thinking, can't you just like go to equipment 1901 01:28:34,800 --> 01:28:36,719 Speaker 1: manager and as you're like a pairs. 1902 01:28:36,880 --> 01:28:38,919 Speaker 3: It ain't like that, Bro, they really. 1903 01:28:38,720 --> 01:28:41,080 Speaker 1: Be Pippini's getting now they could come back and now 1904 01:28:41,120 --> 01:28:43,880 Speaker 1: they could get some money. It's a million dollars now, Martin, 1905 01:28:44,160 --> 01:28:45,960 Speaker 1: what does it go up to next year? What does 1906 01:28:46,000 --> 01:28:47,720 Speaker 1: it go up to two years from now? If you're 1907 01:28:47,760 --> 01:28:50,720 Speaker 1: telling the school listen, win against ten million, come play here, 1908 01:28:50,840 --> 01:28:53,799 Speaker 1: come come do this tournament? Did it started eight sixteen 1909 01:28:53,880 --> 01:28:55,880 Speaker 1: twenty four? Next thing you know, you're right, there is 1910 01:28:55,920 --> 01:28:58,640 Speaker 1: no more. It's still March madness. But it's just not 1911 01:28:58,920 --> 01:29:01,200 Speaker 1: it's not called that no more. I think that's where 1912 01:29:01,200 --> 01:29:03,200 Speaker 1: we're hading, brother, and I'm. 1913 01:29:02,680 --> 01:29:03,479 Speaker 3: All for it. 1914 01:29:03,720 --> 01:29:07,320 Speaker 1: Pay these kids get the money. Let's go, y'all make enough. 1915 01:29:07,640 --> 01:29:11,160 Speaker 1: These universities make so much money. It's ridiculous. I think 1916 01:29:11,200 --> 01:29:14,639 Speaker 1: college is overcharged for education. To be honest with you, 1917 01:29:14,640 --> 01:29:16,639 Speaker 1: you can't tell me no degree is worth one hundred 1918 01:29:16,640 --> 01:29:17,759 Speaker 1: and twenty thousand dollars. 1919 01:29:18,120 --> 01:29:21,080 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, you can't tell me that. There's the thing 1920 01:29:21,120 --> 01:29:25,880 Speaker 2: about in that regard. Let's say let's say you were 1921 01:29:25,960 --> 01:29:29,840 Speaker 2: nineteen years old and you walked into a bank, right 1922 01:29:30,320 --> 01:29:32,320 Speaker 2: and you said, you know what I need? I need 1923 01:29:32,320 --> 01:29:35,280 Speaker 2: a small business loan, and they said, what's your plan? 1924 01:29:35,800 --> 01:29:37,360 Speaker 2: You know, well, my plan is for the next four 1925 01:29:37,439 --> 01:29:42,240 Speaker 2: years to attend classes, sporadically, drink a lot, watch college football, 1926 01:29:42,600 --> 01:29:45,240 Speaker 2: have a party, and then, you know, and maybe I'll 1927 01:29:45,280 --> 01:29:47,800 Speaker 2: join a frat yeah, you know, charrity. 1928 01:29:47,400 --> 01:29:49,160 Speaker 3: Or something like that. But you know what am I 1929 01:29:49,240 --> 01:29:49,800 Speaker 3: planning for you? 1930 01:29:49,840 --> 01:29:50,240 Speaker 4: I don't know. 1931 01:29:50,880 --> 01:29:54,080 Speaker 2: And it's like, you know, they're like, oh, no, good 1932 01:29:54,120 --> 01:29:55,840 Speaker 2: bank is going to offer you. You know, you know 1933 01:29:55,880 --> 01:29:58,160 Speaker 2: what They'll say, Okay, yeah, here's one hundred and twenty 1934 01:29:58,200 --> 01:30:02,960 Speaker 2: five thousand dollars go right, that's just not how any 1935 01:30:03,040 --> 01:30:06,200 Speaker 2: other bank besides student loan operators work. 1936 01:30:06,560 --> 01:30:08,599 Speaker 1: You know what, I didn't need at eighteen one hundred 1937 01:30:08,640 --> 01:30:11,680 Speaker 1: thousand dollars. No, you did it? No, not at all, 1938 01:30:11,720 --> 01:30:13,320 Speaker 1: Like I just I've always that's one of my little 1939 01:30:13,320 --> 01:30:15,719 Speaker 1: conspiracy things. I'm like, Okay, you gotta pay the facilla, 1940 01:30:15,760 --> 01:30:17,720 Speaker 1: you gotta paid a faculty, you gotta pay the light bill, 1941 01:30:17,720 --> 01:30:18,960 Speaker 1: you gotta pay the heating, but you gotta pay for 1942 01:30:19,000 --> 01:30:21,200 Speaker 1: the door. I get all that, but I don't think 1943 01:30:21,280 --> 01:30:24,719 Speaker 1: we ever truly see Martin with these big time universe. 1944 01:30:24,760 --> 01:30:27,280 Speaker 1: Could you imagine at the end of the year when 1945 01:30:27,320 --> 01:30:31,200 Speaker 1: the University of Michigan looks at their bottom line of 1946 01:30:31,439 --> 01:30:35,519 Speaker 1: what they made public school University of Michigan made their 1947 01:30:35,640 --> 01:30:40,200 Speaker 1: bottom line, Like, after excuse me, after all the money's 1948 01:30:40,240 --> 01:30:42,479 Speaker 1: been paid out, after all the professors have been paid, 1949 01:30:42,640 --> 01:30:45,720 Speaker 1: after all the bills, the light bill, after all that 1950 01:30:45,760 --> 01:30:49,320 Speaker 1: stuff's been paid, what do I have left? I would 1951 01:30:49,439 --> 01:30:53,320 Speaker 1: love to see that number. I guarantee you it'll blow 1952 01:30:53,600 --> 01:30:57,760 Speaker 1: most Americans away, Like, oh, dup, you make how much 1953 01:30:57,800 --> 01:31:00,000 Speaker 1: a year? How do you think they keep building these days? 1954 01:31:00,200 --> 01:31:04,720 Speaker 1: Buildings and adding and and twenty million dollar renovation to 1955 01:31:04,760 --> 01:31:09,240 Speaker 1: the stadium is so much money crying about the education. 1956 01:31:09,400 --> 01:31:11,479 Speaker 3: Well, so the kids they have to pay. 1957 01:31:11,320 --> 01:31:14,599 Speaker 1: For the man that one hundred and thirty thousand dollars 1958 01:31:14,720 --> 01:31:17,479 Speaker 1: they could have gained an education for twenty five Come on, man, 1959 01:31:17,600 --> 01:31:19,880 Speaker 1: I got hustle man prices for y'all. But I love 1960 01:31:19,960 --> 01:31:23,040 Speaker 1: this idea, Mario. I'm you gotta see what college football. 1961 01:31:23,040 --> 01:31:25,760 Speaker 1: They're gonna be their own entity. I think college basketball 1962 01:31:26,000 --> 01:31:28,200 Speaker 1: needs to be the same, and I think college baseball 1963 01:31:28,240 --> 01:31:31,120 Speaker 1: and college women's softball will follow right behind. I think 1964 01:31:31,120 --> 01:31:32,880 Speaker 1: it stops there, and I don't think any other sports 1965 01:31:33,040 --> 01:31:34,960 Speaker 1: are popular enough to survive on their own. 1966 01:31:35,520 --> 01:31:38,400 Speaker 3: Well, it depends on how popularity is. It's more about 1967 01:31:38,400 --> 01:31:38,880 Speaker 3: the money. 1968 01:31:38,960 --> 01:31:41,599 Speaker 2: Like golf is not nearly the most popular sport in America, 1969 01:31:41,640 --> 01:31:42,639 Speaker 2: but there's the reason why they. 1970 01:31:42,640 --> 01:31:43,439 Speaker 3: Got the Golf channel. 1971 01:31:43,760 --> 01:31:45,160 Speaker 1: There's a lot of money and a lot of money 1972 01:31:45,160 --> 01:31:47,519 Speaker 1: and a lot of money, and god, it's a lot 1973 01:31:47,520 --> 01:31:49,360 Speaker 1: of money. You ever know that you know those sponsors 1974 01:31:49,439 --> 01:31:52,559 Speaker 1: KPMG and so and so forth. I'll like you google them. 1975 01:31:52,600 --> 01:31:53,000 Speaker 3: What are they? 1976 01:31:53,280 --> 01:31:58,160 Speaker 2: Hedge funds? You know, uh, investment capital. You know, that's 1977 01:31:58,160 --> 01:32:00,960 Speaker 2: when you start seeing the commercial investo QQ. 1978 01:32:00,800 --> 01:32:03,479 Speaker 1: Oh man, by the way, ETF you know what I'm saying. 1979 01:32:03,520 --> 01:32:06,320 Speaker 1: It's like, Okay, I see you. You you're watching NASCAR 1980 01:32:06,479 --> 01:32:11,000 Speaker 1: race in the winner he's he he's rattling off sponsors 1981 01:32:11,040 --> 01:32:13,920 Speaker 1: when they win before he starts talking, Hey Martin, look 1982 01:32:13,960 --> 01:32:15,960 Speaker 1: great race man. You guys were right there at the end. 1983 01:32:15,960 --> 01:32:18,120 Speaker 1: But third place fishes today. Oh yeah, we thought we 1984 01:32:18,160 --> 01:32:19,400 Speaker 1: had a fast car. But you know, first of all, 1985 01:32:19,439 --> 01:32:21,519 Speaker 1: I want to thank Pepsin and thank McDonald's. Uh the 1986 01:32:21,520 --> 01:32:24,720 Speaker 1: guy go insurance tye right dot com. I mean they 1987 01:32:24,840 --> 01:32:28,960 Speaker 1: go through, they go through like fifty fifty smart and 1988 01:32:29,000 --> 01:32:32,280 Speaker 1: then take that little half ass sip or whatever whatever 1989 01:32:32,400 --> 01:32:36,599 Speaker 1: beverage is the sponsor beverage, and and then you start talking, 1990 01:32:36,640 --> 01:32:39,400 Speaker 1: but somebody's gotta pay for them cars that wreck. Somebody's 1991 01:32:39,400 --> 01:32:41,439 Speaker 1: gotta pay for all those parts that aren't those aren't 1992 01:32:41,479 --> 01:32:43,880 Speaker 1: your normal break pads, ladies and gentlemen. That goes on 1993 01:32:44,040 --> 01:32:46,800 Speaker 1: my my Toyota Camry. But then there's a different set 1994 01:32:46,840 --> 01:32:49,160 Speaker 1: of break pads. They gotta pay for it. But I 1995 01:32:49,200 --> 01:32:50,800 Speaker 1: love this idea. I'm all for it. 1996 01:32:51,160 --> 01:32:53,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I just you know, feel you like it or 1997 01:32:53,320 --> 01:32:56,080 Speaker 3: what like? I mean, I don't have it to me. 1998 01:32:56,200 --> 01:32:59,519 Speaker 2: It's just shows like very much the same way that 1999 01:32:59,560 --> 01:33:02,759 Speaker 2: when the NFL went to Amazon for Thursday Night Football, 2000 01:33:02,840 --> 01:33:05,720 Speaker 2: I said, this is the death of cable television. Right 2001 01:33:05,800 --> 01:33:07,960 Speaker 2: like this, this right here is the canary in the 2002 01:33:08,000 --> 01:33:11,400 Speaker 2: coal mine. This right here in c A is the 2003 01:33:11,439 --> 01:33:13,559 Speaker 2: canary in the coal mine. It's time to get out. 2004 01:33:13,880 --> 01:33:15,240 Speaker 2: You are running out of oxygen. 2005 01:33:15,320 --> 01:33:17,160 Speaker 1: What does that mean? That's a new one, a canary 2006 01:33:17,160 --> 01:33:17,639 Speaker 1: in the coal mine. 2007 01:33:17,840 --> 01:33:18,840 Speaker 3: So then the. 2008 01:33:18,760 --> 01:33:21,320 Speaker 2: Coal mines they had, uh, you know the coal my 2009 01:33:21,360 --> 01:33:23,920 Speaker 2: West Virginia. So I want to put cold. Yeah, they 2010 01:33:23,960 --> 01:33:27,599 Speaker 2: do have coal, but you're so far underground that they 2011 01:33:27,600 --> 01:33:31,120 Speaker 2: would bring a canary. Right, So if the canary died, 2012 01:33:32,040 --> 01:33:35,799 Speaker 2: that was a signal to show you there's there's something 2013 01:33:35,840 --> 01:33:37,200 Speaker 2: wrong with the amount of oxygen. 2014 01:33:37,320 --> 01:33:40,800 Speaker 1: You're too deep and deep so the canary, you know, 2015 01:33:40,960 --> 01:33:43,280 Speaker 1: shows signs of sluggishes, so it's just about to die, 2016 01:33:43,560 --> 01:33:46,240 Speaker 1: it says, all right. Well, if you're down there and 2017 01:33:46,320 --> 01:33:50,519 Speaker 1: the canary stops chirping, it's time to scake because there's 2018 01:33:50,560 --> 01:33:52,240 Speaker 1: no more air down here. Right. 2019 01:33:52,439 --> 01:33:54,080 Speaker 2: You may not notice because you know you're down there 2020 01:33:54,080 --> 01:33:56,400 Speaker 2: digging for coal. You your car, you know what I'm saying, 2021 01:33:56,479 --> 01:33:58,600 Speaker 2: shoveling coal. You out there really working hard. You know 2022 01:33:58,600 --> 01:34:00,760 Speaker 2: what I'm saying, trying to breathe, trying to, you know, 2023 01:34:00,760 --> 01:34:02,880 Speaker 2: trying to down there. You but you're exerting yourself. So 2024 01:34:03,320 --> 01:34:05,960 Speaker 2: cany in the coal mine. So if the canary in 2025 01:34:06,000 --> 01:34:08,280 Speaker 2: the coal mine, something goes wrong with the canary, that 2026 01:34:08,400 --> 01:34:10,880 Speaker 2: means there's no more oxygen left in the coal mine. 2027 01:34:11,040 --> 01:34:13,360 Speaker 2: Time to get up out of there. Otherwise you might 2028 01:34:13,400 --> 01:34:16,560 Speaker 2: be right there with the canary, right, nanc double A, 2029 01:34:16,800 --> 01:34:18,960 Speaker 2: this is your canary in the coal mine. If you don't, 2030 01:34:18,960 --> 01:34:20,360 Speaker 2: both of y'all be lying there dead. 2031 01:34:20,960 --> 01:34:22,799 Speaker 1: You know they're not going to that. They're too stubborn. 2032 01:34:22,840 --> 01:34:25,000 Speaker 1: They're they're telling you they're going away because they're not 2033 01:34:25,080 --> 01:34:28,080 Speaker 1: gonna If they were smart. Ncublea was smart, they'd come 2034 01:34:28,120 --> 01:34:30,679 Speaker 1: to they'd all say, look, guys, it's been a great run. 2035 01:34:30,960 --> 01:34:33,920 Speaker 1: We've made billions, hundreds of billions of dollars. We can 2036 01:34:33,960 --> 01:34:36,400 Speaker 1: give a little now, let's keep it, or or if 2037 01:34:36,400 --> 01:34:40,080 Speaker 1: we don't, we're done. If we don't, we're done. And 2038 01:34:40,120 --> 01:34:43,200 Speaker 1: I can I can't imagine some guy's probably going, well, fine, well, 2039 01:34:43,200 --> 01:34:44,280 Speaker 1: then forget it. We're done. 2040 01:34:44,280 --> 01:34:45,320 Speaker 3: Then all right, let's see. 2041 01:34:45,200 --> 01:34:48,719 Speaker 1: Them go survive without us speaking about if we don't, 2042 01:34:48,800 --> 01:34:49,639 Speaker 1: we're done. 2043 01:34:49,920 --> 01:34:53,879 Speaker 2: If this team doesn't get this guy back a sap, 2044 01:34:54,520 --> 01:34:55,120 Speaker 2: it's a rap. 2045 01:34:55,360 --> 01:34:56,840 Speaker 3: Martin and VJ Fox Sports Radio. 2046 01:35:02,560 --> 01:35:04,640 Speaker 2: Martin and VJ coming to your life from the ti 2047 01:35:04,680 --> 01:35:07,439 Speaker 2: iraq dot Com Studios tiraq dot com. 2048 01:35:07,680 --> 01:35:09,800 Speaker 1: We'll help you get there. You can tweet the show. 2049 01:35:09,840 --> 01:35:13,599 Speaker 2: I'm at Martin Wis's VJ at Big Vanilla, Funny and 2050 01:35:14,360 --> 01:35:16,959 Speaker 2: like George sands here he said, just better than Draymond, 2051 01:35:17,000 --> 01:35:17,599 Speaker 2: not Jokic. 2052 01:35:17,760 --> 01:35:19,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm reading that right now. Y'all was gonna say, 2053 01:35:19,680 --> 01:35:23,200 Speaker 1: all right, correct, George, not better than Drea, just better 2054 01:35:23,200 --> 01:35:24,519 Speaker 1: than Draymond, but yeah, not Yokic. 2055 01:35:24,640 --> 01:35:27,479 Speaker 2: So bell Dad says, I wonder if Jay Billis will 2056 01:35:27,520 --> 01:35:29,920 Speaker 2: do any handwringing over this class let's behavior from the 2057 01:35:30,000 --> 01:35:34,080 Speaker 2: Duke students section. Bill Let's condemned Wig Forest for court storming. 2058 01:35:34,320 --> 01:35:38,160 Speaker 2: Duke fans are throwing things at UNC players. The hypocrisy 2059 01:35:38,160 --> 01:35:39,400 Speaker 2: of silence will be glaring. 2060 01:35:40,400 --> 01:35:42,639 Speaker 1: I've been there. They're nasty. They are in their college 2061 01:35:42,720 --> 01:35:45,160 Speaker 1: kids and stuff. But there's some nasty fans there, man, 2062 01:35:45,160 --> 01:35:47,120 Speaker 1: So I don't mind wave waving at them. You see 2063 01:35:47,160 --> 01:35:49,680 Speaker 1: the security and other coaches start trying to get between them, 2064 01:35:49,720 --> 01:35:51,559 Speaker 1: saying all right, come on, go, let's go back. Let's 2065 01:35:51,600 --> 01:35:53,759 Speaker 1: I just don't want to hear oh win with class 2066 01:35:53,880 --> 01:35:56,160 Speaker 1: damn all that I've been in that gym. I see 2067 01:35:56,160 --> 01:35:59,200 Speaker 1: how unclassy those fans can be. Valdez, that's it. I 2068 01:35:59,200 --> 01:36:01,320 Speaker 1: call him aka Black Panther. Y'a should see some of 2069 01:36:01,320 --> 01:36:01,879 Speaker 1: his tweets. 2070 01:36:03,520 --> 01:36:04,280 Speaker 3: That's a k A. 2071 01:36:04,479 --> 01:36:07,240 Speaker 1: Huey Newton right there. That's my man. He tom something 2072 01:36:07,320 --> 01:36:10,880 Speaker 1: come out. That's on that line. He tags me real fast. Hey, hey, 2073 01:36:11,000 --> 01:36:13,200 Speaker 1: big vanilla funny, did you see your boy? And it'd 2074 01:36:13,200 --> 01:36:15,880 Speaker 1: be like, you know, Jason Whitlock or something like that. Yeah, No, 2075 01:36:16,040 --> 01:36:18,680 Speaker 1: Valdez is my guy. He's another long listener to the show. 2076 01:36:18,720 --> 01:36:20,439 Speaker 1: He's been listening to us since we started BRO so 2077 01:36:20,520 --> 01:36:21,799 Speaker 1: he's he's listening every Saturday. 2078 01:36:21,920 --> 01:36:23,320 Speaker 3: Valdez, we appreciate you player. 2079 01:36:24,240 --> 01:36:24,439 Speaker 1: Uh. 2080 01:36:24,479 --> 01:36:30,519 Speaker 2: Speaking of northern California, Hue Newton right up ended up 2081 01:36:30,600 --> 01:36:31,920 Speaker 2: being assassinated. 2082 01:36:31,920 --> 01:36:34,280 Speaker 3: He just four days after my five days after my birthday. 2083 01:36:34,320 --> 01:36:38,080 Speaker 1: I didn't realize that five days after my birthday in Oakland, California. 2084 01:36:38,360 --> 01:36:40,360 Speaker 1: And this is gonna be the ugliest segue I've ever 2085 01:36:40,360 --> 01:36:44,839 Speaker 1: made in my life. But uh, the team formerly in Oakland, 2086 01:36:44,840 --> 01:36:49,160 Speaker 1: the Golden State Warriors. It works, did it? 2087 01:36:49,240 --> 01:36:50,479 Speaker 3: Did it works? 2088 01:36:50,640 --> 01:36:51,000 Speaker 1: Did it? 2089 01:36:51,080 --> 01:36:51,320 Speaker 4: Yeah? 2090 01:36:51,320 --> 01:36:52,719 Speaker 3: It works? And Chef Curry. 2091 01:36:52,760 --> 01:36:54,880 Speaker 2: Steph Curry is down, as Patrick grows, chef in the 2092 01:36:54,960 --> 01:36:57,799 Speaker 2: Rundown's why I read it like that, jerk uh. Steph 2093 01:36:57,880 --> 01:37:00,400 Speaker 2: Curry is down for the Warriors VJA. I made bets 2094 01:37:00,400 --> 01:37:05,400 Speaker 2: today in the NBA. The first one was the Bulls 2095 01:37:05,439 --> 01:37:06,960 Speaker 2: to beat the Clippers in the first half. 2096 01:37:07,960 --> 01:37:09,040 Speaker 3: I bet under one. 2097 01:37:08,960 --> 01:37:11,800 Speaker 2: Sixteen in this Golden State Phoenix, I'm sorry, in this 2098 01:37:11,840 --> 01:37:12,960 Speaker 2: Phoenix Boston game. 2099 01:37:13,240 --> 01:37:14,479 Speaker 3: No Devin Booker, right. 2100 01:37:14,960 --> 01:37:18,120 Speaker 2: And then I bet the Warriors to cover six in 2101 01:37:18,160 --> 01:37:20,280 Speaker 2: the first half against the San Antonio Spurs. 2102 01:37:20,280 --> 01:37:21,680 Speaker 3: Not though they did not cover six in the. 2103 01:37:21,600 --> 01:37:25,320 Speaker 2: First half, they haven't been leading this entire game the 2104 01:37:25,800 --> 01:37:32,519 Speaker 2: Lembin Yamals Spurs. Now, obviously the Warriors missing Steph Curry, 2105 01:37:32,560 --> 01:37:34,960 Speaker 2: and that's obviously their best player here. But I think 2106 01:37:35,000 --> 01:37:37,880 Speaker 2: this really illustrates something we were talking about last week 2107 01:37:38,080 --> 01:37:40,679 Speaker 2: and again now talking about this week. If you don't 2108 01:37:40,680 --> 01:37:44,519 Speaker 2: have Steph, you got nothing in Golden State right now, 2109 01:37:44,800 --> 01:37:48,440 Speaker 2: it's not pretty. And this is to me the defining 2110 01:37:48,479 --> 01:37:51,519 Speaker 2: moment right now. If you're losing a game to one 2111 01:37:51,560 --> 01:37:54,720 Speaker 2: of the three worst teams in the NBA, right the 2112 01:37:54,760 --> 01:37:55,960 Speaker 2: San Antonio. 2113 01:37:55,479 --> 01:37:57,800 Speaker 1: Spurs and they don't have their best player. Everybody goes 2114 01:37:57,840 --> 01:38:00,600 Speaker 1: on a run, so the runs come right now. So 2115 01:38:00,640 --> 01:38:04,479 Speaker 1: we're looking at ninety one, seventy nine, ninety four now 2116 01:38:04,520 --> 01:38:06,559 Speaker 1: as san Antoni hits at three. But the run's coming. 2117 01:38:06,840 --> 01:38:08,840 Speaker 1: Runs coming to the NBA. We'll see how close they 2118 01:38:08,840 --> 01:38:12,120 Speaker 1: can get. But on my man, Steph, it pains me 2119 01:38:12,240 --> 01:38:15,080 Speaker 1: to say this, but it's just it's the truth. It's 2120 01:38:15,120 --> 01:38:18,160 Speaker 1: the same with Lebron, and it's the same with Durant. 2121 01:38:18,280 --> 01:38:23,280 Speaker 1: This these last guys of that era, they're not winning anymore. 2122 01:38:23,680 --> 01:38:27,040 Speaker 1: They're not winning any more championships, guys, it's over. The 2123 01:38:27,160 --> 01:38:29,880 Speaker 1: run's been fun now. We could just watch them stack 2124 01:38:29,960 --> 01:38:32,439 Speaker 1: up points and stack up numbers and things of that nature. 2125 01:38:32,600 --> 01:38:36,200 Speaker 1: Durant's not winning in Phoenix, Lebron's not winning with the Lakers. 2126 01:38:36,439 --> 01:38:39,800 Speaker 1: Steph's not winning anymore. Close to the bench now, Clay 2127 01:38:39,880 --> 01:38:42,639 Speaker 1: was an important piece of them winning. I understand they 2128 01:38:42,640 --> 01:38:44,639 Speaker 1: got some young guns. These young guns ain't as good 2129 01:38:44,640 --> 01:38:46,120 Speaker 1: as Clay. When Clay was a young gun. 2130 01:38:46,280 --> 01:38:48,479 Speaker 2: Wiggins also came off the bench in this game who 2131 01:38:48,760 --> 01:38:52,200 Speaker 2: who Who back down as a warrior. But in the 2132 01:38:52,360 --> 01:38:54,200 Speaker 2: in the finals run that they did have with him, 2133 01:38:54,200 --> 01:38:56,200 Speaker 2: he was a big part but that. But you know 2134 01:38:56,240 --> 01:38:58,800 Speaker 2: why though they they knew they had the they had 2135 01:38:58,840 --> 01:39:00,720 Speaker 2: the opportunity was right there in front of them. 2136 01:39:00,960 --> 01:39:03,120 Speaker 1: They all could sense it. And I and I said 2137 01:39:03,120 --> 01:39:05,200 Speaker 1: this when we're here on the show, I thought that 2138 01:39:05,560 --> 01:39:07,880 Speaker 1: this was a Steph thing. They they wanted this, They 2139 01:39:07,920 --> 01:39:11,240 Speaker 1: knew how bad this was going to uplift Steph's legacy. 2140 01:39:11,520 --> 01:39:15,360 Speaker 1: And those guys all winning four together, meaning Draymond and Steph, 2141 01:39:15,439 --> 01:39:19,479 Speaker 1: Curry and Klay Thompson all winning those four championships as 2142 01:39:19,479 --> 01:39:22,320 Speaker 1: that trio together. They put it all out there, all 2143 01:39:22,360 --> 01:39:24,479 Speaker 1: over the line. Wiggints played up out of his mind. 2144 01:39:24,600 --> 01:39:28,400 Speaker 1: Kevon Looney was Dennis Rodman. He was chilling the glass 2145 01:39:28,400 --> 01:39:31,760 Speaker 1: in the playoffs that year, and I mean he was 2146 01:39:31,960 --> 01:39:34,519 Speaker 1: chilling the glass. Just hand that man a roll of 2147 01:39:34,520 --> 01:39:36,920 Speaker 1: paper towels and some wind decks because he cleaning class 2148 01:39:36,960 --> 01:39:40,800 Speaker 1: around there. Baby. That's that year was like, Okay, they 2149 01:39:40,840 --> 01:39:43,120 Speaker 1: got the four and then you can just kind of see, 2150 01:39:43,160 --> 01:39:46,200 Speaker 1: okay where it's going from there. And without them, you're 2151 01:39:46,280 --> 01:39:49,400 Speaker 1: right there, man, They're not a good team without Steph. 2152 01:39:49,520 --> 01:39:52,160 Speaker 1: But those days are coming. It's gonna be a time 2153 01:39:52,200 --> 01:39:55,439 Speaker 1: where is this this era of Steph is just gonna 2154 01:39:55,479 --> 01:39:55,920 Speaker 1: be over. 2155 01:39:56,360 --> 01:39:59,040 Speaker 3: He's still a great player. He still does. 2156 01:39:58,960 --> 01:40:02,320 Speaker 1: Big tom things, has these crazy games of forty to 2157 01:40:02,360 --> 01:40:05,200 Speaker 1: fifty points, still can knock down the three best shooter 2158 01:40:05,280 --> 01:40:07,439 Speaker 1: I've ever seen from my money, in my entire life. 2159 01:40:07,520 --> 01:40:10,360 Speaker 1: Not three point shooter, just best shooter I've ever seen 2160 01:40:10,600 --> 01:40:13,880 Speaker 1: in my life. But when with Curry being out, they 2161 01:40:14,120 --> 01:40:16,120 Speaker 1: they are danger. They're in danger of falling out of 2162 01:40:16,120 --> 01:40:18,840 Speaker 1: the play in and at the ankle. Remember he had 2163 01:40:18,880 --> 01:40:23,519 Speaker 1: ankle surgery earlier in his career, several angle injuries, several 2164 01:40:23,560 --> 01:40:24,799 Speaker 1: times he has some weak ankles. 2165 01:40:24,880 --> 01:40:25,080 Speaker 7: Man. 2166 01:40:25,600 --> 01:40:29,840 Speaker 1: But if if if I'm Golden State, if he's not back, 2167 01:40:30,320 --> 01:40:33,519 Speaker 1: I would say, within a week. How gong rule a 2168 01:40:33,560 --> 01:40:35,519 Speaker 1: report saying how long is this kid out? How long 2169 01:40:35,560 --> 01:40:36,040 Speaker 1: is the man out? 2170 01:40:36,240 --> 01:40:39,120 Speaker 2: He tested it today, So you know they're thinking that 2171 01:40:39,240 --> 01:40:40,800 Speaker 2: shouldn't be too too long. 2172 01:40:40,720 --> 01:40:43,920 Speaker 1: Shouldn't be too too long. Listen, man a ninth tenth C. 2173 01:40:44,479 --> 01:40:47,200 Speaker 1: What are we doing? Like seriously, like, what what are 2174 01:40:47,200 --> 01:40:49,760 Speaker 1: we doing? I'd shut him down. You're not You're not 2175 01:40:49,800 --> 01:40:52,920 Speaker 1: gonna win a championship this year. You're you're not shut 2176 01:40:53,000 --> 01:40:55,960 Speaker 1: him down. Let these let the young buckeroose, these little 2177 01:40:56,000 --> 01:40:58,760 Speaker 1: young whipper snappers, little young mush mouths. Let them get 2178 01:40:58,760 --> 01:41:00,960 Speaker 1: this run going into the season. And if you're getting 2179 01:41:01,000 --> 01:41:03,479 Speaker 1: to the play in, see how that goes from there. 2180 01:41:03,680 --> 01:41:05,759 Speaker 1: And if you're winning and you get to the eighth seed, 2181 01:41:05,960 --> 01:41:07,599 Speaker 1: it's still gonna be a two or three day break 2182 01:41:07,640 --> 01:41:10,000 Speaker 1: before you play your first playout game. Then you can 2183 01:41:10,040 --> 01:41:13,680 Speaker 1: reevaluate and say, hey, eighth seed going against Minnesota or 2184 01:41:13,720 --> 01:41:15,640 Speaker 1: going against Denver, Steph, you want to give it a 2185 01:41:15,680 --> 01:41:17,960 Speaker 1: run or not. Steph's probably gonna say yeah, and then 2186 01:41:17,960 --> 01:41:20,000 Speaker 1: maybe you could put him in. But I would I 2187 01:41:20,000 --> 01:41:21,640 Speaker 1: would set him. I wouldn't even play around with this 2188 01:41:21,760 --> 01:41:26,040 Speaker 1: older body man, older older joints. Older body, older joints. 2189 01:41:26,240 --> 01:41:28,519 Speaker 1: It takes longer than hell. You can't just roll out 2190 01:41:28,840 --> 01:41:30,880 Speaker 1: a bed in the morning anymore when you get to 2191 01:41:30,880 --> 01:41:34,000 Speaker 1: that age with that wearing tear. So first part of 2192 01:41:34,000 --> 01:41:36,640 Speaker 1: your statement, no, there's nothing without them, second part of 2193 01:41:36,640 --> 01:41:40,320 Speaker 1: my statement, I would probably shut Steph down at this point. 2194 01:41:41,160 --> 01:41:44,480 Speaker 2: Well, the thing is, well, I don't like a wholeheartedly 2195 01:41:44,600 --> 01:41:48,439 Speaker 2: disagree with you. I mean, we did see a play 2196 01:41:48,479 --> 01:41:52,920 Speaker 2: in representative in the Western Conference finals just last year. 2197 01:41:54,000 --> 01:41:55,960 Speaker 1: You know, I can't hang on to that mar and 2198 01:41:56,160 --> 01:41:58,559 Speaker 1: I just can't. Man, I know that's been a narrative 2199 01:41:58,560 --> 01:42:01,000 Speaker 1: this year for the Lakers. But I'm not saying I'm 2200 01:42:01,000 --> 01:42:03,000 Speaker 1: not even saying the Lakers or I know. I'm just saying, 2201 01:42:03,000 --> 01:42:03,920 Speaker 1: I get what you're saying. 2202 01:42:04,000 --> 01:42:06,200 Speaker 2: It's just like, you can't take the girl home if 2203 01:42:06,240 --> 01:42:08,080 Speaker 2: you don't have a ticket to the dance, right, you 2204 01:42:08,120 --> 01:42:08,600 Speaker 2: can't do it. 2205 01:42:08,720 --> 01:42:10,559 Speaker 3: Yeah, you can't do it. 2206 01:42:10,560 --> 01:42:12,360 Speaker 1: It's gonna be it's gonna be real hard if you 2207 01:42:12,439 --> 01:42:15,120 Speaker 1: just say it outside the letout, wait waiting. 2208 01:42:15,080 --> 01:42:17,280 Speaker 3: They're trying to shoot your shot because everybody let out. 2209 01:42:17,600 --> 01:42:18,200 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. 2210 01:42:18,280 --> 01:42:20,840 Speaker 3: But if you're there at eleven forty five and. 2211 01:42:20,840 --> 01:42:23,439 Speaker 1: You see her, you're going walk right across there and say, hey, 2212 01:42:23,479 --> 01:42:24,920 Speaker 1: my name is Martin. I'm trying to do so you 2213 01:42:24,960 --> 01:42:25,360 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. 2214 01:42:25,400 --> 01:42:27,800 Speaker 2: What you got going on? You know what you're doing 2215 01:42:27,840 --> 01:42:29,960 Speaker 2: after this, Let's go to the waffle house. You know 2216 01:42:30,160 --> 01:42:32,519 Speaker 2: that's not happening if you're not in the tournament. If 2217 01:42:32,520 --> 01:42:34,080 Speaker 2: you're in the tournament, though, you got a shot. 2218 01:42:34,320 --> 01:42:37,080 Speaker 1: The one thing that I can say is Minnesota, with 2219 01:42:37,240 --> 01:42:39,799 Speaker 1: Cat being out, they're gonna evaluate Cat in four weeks. 2220 01:42:39,840 --> 01:42:43,000 Speaker 1: I think he's done. I've meniscus tear with surgery. You're 2221 01:42:43,040 --> 01:42:45,160 Speaker 1: telling me will reevaluate him. 2222 01:42:44,920 --> 01:42:45,639 Speaker 3: In four week. 2223 01:42:45,800 --> 01:42:49,240 Speaker 1: Big guy already he's not super athletic, kind of limbers 2224 01:42:49,720 --> 01:42:51,760 Speaker 1: we need when he walks, kind of got heavy feet. 2225 01:42:51,800 --> 01:42:54,320 Speaker 1: I called, you know, seemen in his shoes. You know, 2226 01:42:54,439 --> 01:42:56,280 Speaker 1: maybe you could get them in the first round because 2227 01:42:56,280 --> 01:42:57,240 Speaker 1: they'll be missing a big guy. 2228 01:42:57,240 --> 01:42:57,800 Speaker 3: But okay, so he. 2229 01:42:57,840 --> 01:43:00,559 Speaker 1: Can average one. They're averaging one twenty so they can score. 2230 01:43:00,880 --> 01:43:03,200 Speaker 1: Is your defense gonna stop them? If you're last year 2231 01:43:03,200 --> 01:43:06,479 Speaker 1: with the Lakers getting there, j'ah missed the game, No 2232 01:43:06,600 --> 01:43:09,640 Speaker 1: Steven Adams. That Memphis team just wasn't the same when 2233 01:43:09,720 --> 01:43:11,759 Speaker 1: they got to the playoffs, and then in the second 2234 01:43:11,840 --> 01:43:14,559 Speaker 1: round they played the Warriors, who were too like two 2235 01:43:14,640 --> 01:43:18,400 Speaker 1: bad like two bad teams. Somebody had to win, somebody 2236 01:43:18,479 --> 01:43:20,680 Speaker 1: was gonna lose, so someone was gonna get to the 2237 01:43:20,720 --> 01:43:22,960 Speaker 1: Western Conference finals. That happened to be the Lakers. So 2238 01:43:23,240 --> 01:43:25,680 Speaker 1: this year's yeah, we saw last year. But if no 2239 01:43:25,800 --> 01:43:28,080 Speaker 1: big pieces are missing out of these top teams, man, 2240 01:43:28,120 --> 01:43:31,000 Speaker 1: it's hard for me to pick Golden State or the 2241 01:43:31,080 --> 01:43:34,120 Speaker 1: Lakers or Dallas sitting at eight to upset one of 2242 01:43:34,160 --> 01:43:36,400 Speaker 1: the top two seeds and move on to the second 2243 01:43:36,479 --> 01:43:37,280 Speaker 1: round playoffs. 2244 01:43:37,560 --> 01:43:40,599 Speaker 2: You know, interestingly, enough, cron Hony Towns missed that game 2245 01:43:40,640 --> 01:43:42,960 Speaker 2: against you. What was it the Cavaliers, the one that 2246 01:43:43,040 --> 01:43:46,320 Speaker 2: Anthony Edwards had that crazy block. Yeah, Nas read at 2247 01:43:46,360 --> 01:43:48,679 Speaker 2: like thirty four points in that game off the bench, 2248 01:43:49,360 --> 01:43:50,439 Speaker 2: and they needed that game too. 2249 01:43:50,520 --> 01:43:53,519 Speaker 1: Man on the road, you lose your big gun, Anthony Edwards. 2250 01:43:53,920 --> 01:43:57,240 Speaker 1: That kid's legit. There's a legit kid in the NBA 2251 01:43:57,360 --> 01:43:59,120 Speaker 1: right now. But we'll see you better stop all that 2252 01:43:59,160 --> 01:44:02,000 Speaker 1: flying around. We see these young buckeroos, y'all fly around. 2253 01:44:02,000 --> 01:44:04,000 Speaker 1: Stay on the ground a little more, fellas, those knees 2254 01:44:04,040 --> 01:44:06,280 Speaker 1: and ligaments will thank you. On year seven, eight nine. 2255 01:44:06,439 --> 01:44:08,280 Speaker 2: I know one guy who's got two feet on the 2256 01:44:08,280 --> 01:44:09,839 Speaker 2: ground and his head's not in the clouds. 2257 01:44:09,840 --> 01:44:12,280 Speaker 3: He's locked in. Steve the Seger, what's you got going on, 2258 01:44:12,360 --> 01:44:12,759 Speaker 3: my friend? 2259 01:44:12,920 --> 01:44:15,439 Speaker 6: Let's start with the NBA, because right now at Golden 2260 01:44:15,439 --> 01:44:17,880 Speaker 6: State it is Spurs leading with about ten minutes to go, 2261 01:44:18,040 --> 01:44:21,400 Speaker 6: ninety eight to eighty three. Clay Thompson does have twenty 2262 01:44:21,439 --> 01:44:23,560 Speaker 6: five points for the Warrior. Steph Curry out with a 2263 01:44:23,600 --> 01:44:26,519 Speaker 6: sprained ankle. He'll be re evaluated Tuesday. It does not 2264 01:44:26,560 --> 01:44:29,519 Speaker 6: appear to be a long term issue. Victor wemben Yama, 2265 01:44:29,560 --> 01:44:32,400 Speaker 6: the Spurs is still out this weekend with a sprained ankle. 2266 01:44:32,680 --> 01:44:35,599 Speaker 6: Celtics are leading at Phoenix with under seven minutes to go, 2267 01:44:35,680 --> 01:44:38,759 Speaker 6: one oh three to ninety one. The Sons Kevin Durant 2268 01:44:38,760 --> 01:44:41,680 Speaker 6: does have thirty five points for Phoenix. Devin Booker out 2269 01:44:41,720 --> 01:44:45,360 Speaker 6: tonight with a sprained ankle. Defending champion Denver is leading 2270 01:44:45,360 --> 01:44:48,599 Speaker 6: in the third quarter eighty eight fifty five against Utah. 2271 01:44:48,680 --> 01:44:51,160 Speaker 6: The Nuggets apparently will be going to forty four and 2272 01:44:51,320 --> 01:44:54,240 Speaker 6: twenty on the season. You talked about Minnesota. As of 2273 01:44:54,360 --> 01:44:56,800 Speaker 6: last night, the Timberwolves fell a half game back of 2274 01:44:56,920 --> 01:45:00,919 Speaker 6: number one Oklahoma City in the West. Also in progress 2275 01:45:00,960 --> 01:45:03,360 Speaker 6: the late game, late first quarter. Portland already out to 2276 01:45:03,400 --> 01:45:06,400 Speaker 6: a thirty one thirteen lead against the Raptors as they 2277 01:45:06,400 --> 01:45:10,040 Speaker 6: get DeAndre Ayton and Scoot Henderson back. Jeremy Grant of 2278 01:45:10,080 --> 01:45:13,360 Speaker 6: Portland is out still. Charlotte ended a six game losing 2279 01:45:13,360 --> 01:45:16,800 Speaker 6: streak beating Brooklyn one ten to ninety nine. Dallas wanted 2280 01:45:16,880 --> 01:45:20,360 Speaker 6: Detroit one forty two to one twenty four. Luka Donsich 2281 01:45:20,400 --> 01:45:23,479 Speaker 6: another triple double. It included thirty nine points, and in 2282 01:45:23,600 --> 01:45:26,280 Speaker 6: La today the Clippers James harden At a triple double 2283 01:45:26,320 --> 01:45:29,200 Speaker 6: in a win over Chicago one twelve to one oh two. 2284 01:45:29,520 --> 01:45:33,320 Speaker 6: Philadelphia's Tyrese Maxie will miss another game tomorrow with a concussion. 2285 01:45:33,640 --> 01:45:36,519 Speaker 6: Still out for Miami tomorrow due to injuries Tyler Hero 2286 01:45:36,640 --> 01:45:40,599 Speaker 6: and Kevin Love. Pacers guard Ben Matherin will have season 2287 01:45:40,680 --> 01:45:44,479 Speaker 6: ending surgery for a torn laboram. In the NHL, Tampa 2288 01:45:44,479 --> 01:45:47,920 Speaker 6: Bay has won seven to nothing over Philadelphia. Toronto got 2289 01:45:47,960 --> 01:45:50,360 Speaker 6: a three to two win at Montreal Boston five to 2290 01:45:50,439 --> 01:45:54,000 Speaker 6: one over Pittsburgh. The Cleveland Browns are acquiring wide receiver 2291 01:45:54,160 --> 01:45:57,320 Speaker 6: Jerry Judy from Denver for fifth and sixth round draft picks. 2292 01:45:57,520 --> 01:46:01,120 Speaker 6: Seattle wide receiver Tyler Lockett restructure his two year deal. 2293 01:46:01,360 --> 01:46:05,240 Speaker 6: The Eagles re signed veteran defensive end Brandon Graham. Nascar 2294 01:46:05,320 --> 01:46:08,439 Speaker 6: is on Fox TV again tomorrow from Phoenix three thirty 2295 01:46:08,479 --> 01:46:12,120 Speaker 6: pm Eastern time. Today's Infinity Race went to Chandler Smith. 2296 01:46:12,439 --> 01:46:15,599 Speaker 6: US women's soccer plays Brazil Sunday night in San Diego 2297 01:46:15,680 --> 01:46:18,000 Speaker 6: in the final of the New Women's Gold Cup Tournament. 2298 01:46:18,240 --> 01:46:21,400 Speaker 6: Women's basketball Number one South Carolina thirty one to zero. 2299 01:46:21,520 --> 01:46:24,479 Speaker 6: Now after beating Tennessee today on a three pointer at 2300 01:46:24,520 --> 01:46:28,360 Speaker 6: the buzzer in an SEC semifinal, it'll play LSU tomorrow. 2301 01:46:28,600 --> 01:46:32,360 Speaker 6: Men's hoops, Morehead State won the first conference tournament final tonight, 2302 01:46:32,400 --> 01:46:35,800 Speaker 6: winning the Ohio Valley Conference defeating Little Rock. 2303 01:46:36,200 --> 01:46:36,719 Speaker 1: By the way. 2304 01:46:36,840 --> 01:46:39,280 Speaker 6: As for the bad teams and men's college hoops, and 2305 01:46:39,320 --> 01:46:42,759 Speaker 6: this is the final weekend of the regular season, Missouri 2306 01:46:42,800 --> 01:46:46,240 Speaker 6: apparently is going to finish ozho to eighteen in the SEC. 2307 01:46:46,439 --> 01:46:49,160 Speaker 6: Maszoo is down at LSU with a minute ago seventy 2308 01:46:49,280 --> 01:46:53,360 Speaker 6: six to sixty four. Geez, thirty seconds left in the 2309 01:46:53,360 --> 01:46:56,200 Speaker 6: game when New Mexico tied at twenty second ranked Utah 2310 01:46:56,240 --> 01:46:59,920 Speaker 6: State eighty four eighty four. Earlier, Number one Houston pound 2311 01:47:00,080 --> 01:47:03,639 Speaker 6: to number fourteen Kansas seventy six to forty six, another 2312 01:47:03,720 --> 01:47:07,160 Speaker 6: road loss for the Jayhawks. Number two Yukon trailed fifteen 2313 01:47:07,200 --> 01:47:09,599 Speaker 6: to two early but still won at Providence tonight on 2314 01:47:09,640 --> 01:47:13,360 Speaker 6: Fox TV seventy four to sixty. Kentucky was impressive winning 2315 01:47:13,400 --> 01:47:16,400 Speaker 6: at number four Tennessee eighty five eighty one Dalton connect 2316 01:47:16,400 --> 01:47:19,200 Speaker 6: to the balls did have forty points. Kansas State, which 2317 01:47:19,280 --> 01:47:22,519 Speaker 6: was seven and ten in conference, upset Number six Iowa 2318 01:47:22,560 --> 01:47:25,920 Speaker 6: State sixty five fifty eight. North Carolina won at Duke 2319 01:47:26,000 --> 01:47:28,680 Speaker 6: eighty four to seventy nine. Victories on the road for 2320 01:47:28,840 --> 01:47:33,040 Speaker 6: Marquette and Creighton. Victories at home for Auburn and Texas Tech, 2321 01:47:33,040 --> 01:47:37,040 Speaker 6: which beat number eleven Baylor. Overtime wins for Alabama and 2322 01:47:37,160 --> 01:47:41,240 Speaker 6: South Carolina. Once again, we get to March Madness pretty soon, 2323 01:47:41,360 --> 01:47:44,919 Speaker 6: believe it or not. Selection Sunday for the NCAA Tournament 2324 01:47:45,400 --> 01:47:48,040 Speaker 6: a week from tomorrow, the seventeenth. 2325 01:47:48,120 --> 01:47:51,240 Speaker 1: Back to you can't wait, Man, Saint Patrick's. 2326 01:47:50,840 --> 01:47:56,120 Speaker 6: Day seventeenth At Saint Patrick's Day, Sunday, March seventeenth. Yeah, 2327 01:47:56,520 --> 01:47:58,519 Speaker 6: but don't forget, by the way, clocks for most states, 2328 01:47:58,560 --> 01:47:59,160 Speaker 6: most areas. 2329 01:47:59,240 --> 01:48:02,000 Speaker 1: You're right, I was getting pad with the clutch. Okay, 2330 01:48:02,000 --> 01:48:03,320 Speaker 1: I was gonna say. I was get confused. Do we 2331 01:48:03,640 --> 01:48:04,720 Speaker 1: lose so we lose an hour? 2332 01:48:05,120 --> 01:48:05,360 Speaker 3: Yeah? 2333 01:48:05,400 --> 01:48:06,680 Speaker 1: Okay, so we're losing our right. 2334 01:48:06,720 --> 01:48:08,960 Speaker 6: We're skipping two am Missouri. 2335 01:48:09,000 --> 01:48:11,759 Speaker 1: Though, how about that Owen seventeen in the SEC marn, 2336 01:48:12,040 --> 01:48:14,639 Speaker 1: I mean, just a few years ago they had Michael 2337 01:48:14,680 --> 01:48:18,080 Speaker 1: Porter junior and he was gonna be that stud recruit 2338 01:48:18,120 --> 01:48:20,680 Speaker 1: for him that was supposed to take that program over 2339 01:48:20,720 --> 01:48:23,759 Speaker 1: the top. Man, But wow, in seventeen in conference play. 2340 01:48:23,800 --> 01:48:26,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I asked both of you this, do y'all know who? 2341 01:48:27,080 --> 01:48:28,719 Speaker 2: This has got to be the worst team in college 2342 01:48:28,760 --> 01:48:32,360 Speaker 2: basketball one win on the season, Detroit Mercy. 2343 01:48:32,560 --> 01:48:32,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. 2344 01:48:33,120 --> 01:48:34,599 Speaker 6: Oh they got rid of the coach recently. 2345 01:48:34,760 --> 01:48:38,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, Mike Davis two days ago, Paul just lost. 2346 01:48:38,240 --> 01:48:40,160 Speaker 6: I mean literally a couple of minutes ago. They finished 2347 01:48:40,240 --> 01:48:41,639 Speaker 6: oh and twenty in the Big East. 2348 01:48:41,680 --> 01:48:44,080 Speaker 1: Is that the mic? Is that the Mike Davis that 2349 01:48:44,320 --> 01:48:45,880 Speaker 1: was with Indiana Indiana? 2350 01:48:46,000 --> 01:48:46,600 Speaker 6: Yes? 2351 01:48:46,320 --> 01:48:50,200 Speaker 2: All wow, yeah, man coached at Indiana. 2352 01:48:50,439 --> 01:48:53,960 Speaker 6: Well what about Louisville basketball three and seventeen? They went 2353 01:48:54,120 --> 01:48:57,080 Speaker 6: in the ACC losing it home to Boston College today. 2354 01:48:56,920 --> 01:48:59,439 Speaker 1: When all that stuff went down with Patino, Man, that 2355 01:48:59,600 --> 01:49:01,679 Speaker 1: was the after that program sliding down. 2356 01:49:01,520 --> 01:49:04,479 Speaker 6: A Patino attempting to get into the NCAA's with Saint 2357 01:49:04,560 --> 01:49:07,240 Speaker 6: John's the edge Georgetown, speaking of where have they gone? 2358 01:49:07,280 --> 01:49:09,479 Speaker 3: I saw that Georgetown. 2359 01:49:08,960 --> 01:49:11,839 Speaker 6: Hoops went two and eighteen in conference. 2360 01:49:12,080 --> 01:49:14,400 Speaker 1: That's sad. I grew up in the D and V 2361 01:49:14,560 --> 01:49:19,720 Speaker 1: and the era of Ewing Morning Matombo. I lived there. 2362 01:49:19,760 --> 01:49:21,439 Speaker 1: Do we used to go to Georgetown to watch Ai. 2363 01:49:21,920 --> 01:49:26,639 Speaker 1: I grew up when Georgetown meant something in basket college basketball, 2364 01:49:26,640 --> 01:49:29,760 Speaker 1: And it's just false from the graces man, you a 2365 01:49:29,920 --> 01:49:34,800 Speaker 1: d famously coached by one Dick Vital. Yeah, you want 2366 01:49:34,800 --> 01:49:37,559 Speaker 1: to talk about you talk about second round pick Spencer Haywood, 2367 01:49:37,960 --> 01:49:39,479 Speaker 1: you're right, you would d right. 2368 01:49:40,960 --> 01:49:43,719 Speaker 6: Remember when the Big East had at the same time 2369 01:49:44,280 --> 01:49:49,839 Speaker 6: had Villanova and Georgetown and Saint John's and Syracuse. What's Villanova? 2370 01:49:49,920 --> 01:49:52,120 Speaker 6: Since Jay Wright's not the coach these two years, they're 2371 01:49:52,160 --> 01:49:54,040 Speaker 6: probably going to be missing the tournament two years in 2372 01:49:54,080 --> 01:49:55,639 Speaker 6: a row. Villanova lost again today. 2373 01:49:56,400 --> 01:49:58,200 Speaker 2: One of the that's one of the best thirty for thirties, 2374 01:49:58,240 --> 01:50:00,599 Speaker 2: as you can see, is Requiem for the Big Big East. 2375 01:50:00,760 --> 01:50:03,360 Speaker 1: Yep, the Big East used to be. To me, it 2376 01:50:03,400 --> 01:50:05,599 Speaker 1: was the Big East in the ACC. It just got 2377 01:50:05,640 --> 01:50:08,160 Speaker 1: no better than that. The Big East Tournament used to 2378 01:50:08,160 --> 01:50:12,559 Speaker 1: be the even over the ACC, the Big East Tourney MSG. 2379 01:50:13,120 --> 01:50:14,920 Speaker 1: The final was normally on a Saturday night. 2380 01:50:15,040 --> 01:50:16,519 Speaker 6: Syracuse was in the Big East. 2381 01:50:16,560 --> 01:50:21,479 Speaker 1: Oh, miss ac Yeah, Syracuse, yukon those years. As a 2382 01:50:21,479 --> 01:50:24,599 Speaker 1: matter of fact, today's the anniversary of the Allen iverson 2383 01:50:24,720 --> 01:50:28,080 Speaker 1: Ray Allen Knight in the Big East Championship game. Ray 2384 01:50:28,120 --> 01:50:32,200 Speaker 1: Allen had a horrible shooting night and makes that lucky 2385 01:50:32,320 --> 01:50:34,920 Speaker 1: one where his second foot hit the ground. Back then, 2386 01:50:34,960 --> 01:50:37,320 Speaker 1: they didn't review things with that bucket shitting' account at 2387 01:50:37,479 --> 01:50:39,800 Speaker 1: AI with the fallaway at the buzzer to try to 2388 01:50:39,840 --> 01:50:42,759 Speaker 1: win it and he missed and Yukon won their first 2389 01:50:43,360 --> 01:50:46,000 Speaker 1: Big East Tourney championship that night. 2390 01:50:45,920 --> 01:50:49,080 Speaker 6: And Yukon of course finishing Big East first place. Now 2391 01:50:49,160 --> 01:50:52,080 Speaker 6: with the win on Fox tonight, I assume the biggest 2392 01:50:52,800 --> 01:50:55,880 Speaker 6: all time Big East Tournament game is that five overtime 2393 01:50:55,920 --> 01:50:58,400 Speaker 6: and mac Namara. 2394 01:50:58,800 --> 01:51:02,880 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, two am Back East, two thirty am Back East. 2395 01:51:02,880 --> 01:51:04,479 Speaker 1: My wife used to work at ESPN at that time, 2396 01:51:04,520 --> 01:51:06,280 Speaker 1: and I remember her getting home at like three three 2397 01:51:06,320 --> 01:51:08,360 Speaker 1: thirty in the morning because they worked that night shifting. 2398 01:51:08,400 --> 01:51:11,000 Speaker 1: You couldn't leave until that game was over because they 2399 01:51:11,000 --> 01:51:13,000 Speaker 1: needed to cut the highlight for sports and oh yeah, 2400 01:51:13,040 --> 01:51:14,840 Speaker 1: so they couldn't leave. So they're just sitting there just 2401 01:51:15,080 --> 01:51:16,120 Speaker 1: watching that game and. 2402 01:51:16,160 --> 01:51:18,240 Speaker 6: It was phenomenal. Yeah, you know the Big East what 2403 01:51:18,320 --> 01:51:20,519 Speaker 6: it is now and Fox and FS one they had 2404 01:51:20,520 --> 01:51:23,479 Speaker 6: Big East rights. They have three top ten teams. Yeah, 2405 01:51:23,520 --> 01:51:26,479 Speaker 6: the games they carried today, I mean Marquettes in the 2406 01:51:26,520 --> 01:51:29,640 Speaker 6: top ten even winning without their star and Creighton's in 2407 01:51:29,680 --> 01:51:30,920 Speaker 6: the top ten and you cut. 2408 01:51:31,160 --> 01:51:33,360 Speaker 1: Creighton knocked off Yukon at home this year when Yukon 2409 01:51:33,479 --> 01:51:35,799 Speaker 1: was righting number one in the nation. So yeah, the Biggast, 2410 01:51:35,840 --> 01:51:38,200 Speaker 1: the biggest is making a comeback, man. But it's when 2411 01:51:38,200 --> 01:51:40,760 Speaker 1: the ACC kind of took sarahcuse and like you said, 2412 01:51:40,800 --> 01:51:43,880 Speaker 1: Georgetown's just so bad right now. Saint John's went away 2413 01:51:43,920 --> 01:51:46,280 Speaker 1: for a while. It's just it's hard. And then like 2414 01:51:46,439 --> 01:51:48,920 Speaker 1: and then of course Villanova, Jay Wright had those guys. 2415 01:51:49,360 --> 01:51:51,760 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm man for it for a decade. He 2416 01:51:51,840 --> 01:51:53,760 Speaker 1: put guards in the NBA. Man, he put players in 2417 01:51:53,760 --> 01:51:54,160 Speaker 1: the NBA. 2418 01:51:54,280 --> 01:51:56,360 Speaker 2: I'll never look at Dante's even Chanz with the same 2419 01:51:56,360 --> 01:51:57,760 Speaker 2: after what he did to Michigan. 2420 01:51:57,520 --> 01:51:57,960 Speaker 4: Off the fence. 2421 01:51:59,320 --> 01:52:01,080 Speaker 6: He was scoring the week can be aged. 2422 01:52:01,880 --> 01:52:04,360 Speaker 2: At least at least he's a good NBA player, So 2423 01:52:04,360 --> 01:52:07,040 Speaker 2: I can have so solace in that Peyton Siva and 2424 01:52:07,040 --> 01:52:09,920 Speaker 2: that fourth foul was I don't even want to talk 2425 01:52:09,960 --> 01:52:13,240 Speaker 2: about it. I said it at the time in twenty thirteen, 2426 01:52:13,560 --> 01:52:16,800 Speaker 2: nine years ago, I said, when this win is vacated 2427 01:52:16,920 --> 01:52:19,920 Speaker 2: five years from now, it's not gonna feel any better. 2428 01:52:20,479 --> 01:52:22,160 Speaker 3: It's not gonna you know what, it still doesn't. 2429 01:52:22,360 --> 01:52:25,080 Speaker 2: When Michigan didn't win that national title because Louisville and 2430 01:52:25,160 --> 01:52:28,479 Speaker 2: Rick Patino and if Kevin Ware doesn't break his leg, 2431 01:52:28,760 --> 01:52:31,519 Speaker 2: Luke Hancock's ever playing twenty five minutes in a national 2432 01:52:31,560 --> 01:52:33,920 Speaker 2: championship game with eighteen freaking points. 2433 01:52:33,680 --> 01:52:34,160 Speaker 3: Off the bench. 2434 01:52:34,240 --> 01:52:35,280 Speaker 6: One of the gruesome breaks. 2435 01:52:35,479 --> 01:52:39,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, another big ten moment too. Yukon's run with cardiac 2436 01:52:39,160 --> 01:52:42,760 Speaker 1: Kimba Walker even kim Yeah, that run they had because 2437 01:52:42,760 --> 01:52:44,840 Speaker 1: they were they were dead, they were left for dead. 2438 01:52:44,880 --> 01:52:46,800 Speaker 1: You can't even go back to the Shabaz Nate Pier. 2439 01:52:47,080 --> 01:52:49,120 Speaker 1: We can go to that season when Kevin Ali's first 2440 01:52:49,200 --> 01:52:52,120 Speaker 1: or second year taking over for Calhoun. They go on 2441 01:52:52,200 --> 01:52:54,960 Speaker 1: and win the national championship. They beat Julius ran On 2442 01:52:54,960 --> 01:52:55,559 Speaker 1: in Kentucky. 2443 01:52:55,880 --> 01:53:00,680 Speaker 6: I believe the quarter not Sweet sixteen was in Anaheim 2444 01:53:00,720 --> 01:53:04,439 Speaker 6: with Kimba Walker and Yukon. They were going up against 2445 01:53:04,520 --> 01:53:07,679 Speaker 6: Kawhi Leonard and San Diego. First time Sandy or State 2446 01:53:07,680 --> 01:53:08,439 Speaker 6: had gotten that far. 2447 01:53:09,560 --> 01:53:13,720 Speaker 1: Good stuff, man, man. The Georgetown starter jacket is right 2448 01:53:13,720 --> 01:53:15,680 Speaker 1: there with the Raider starter jacket for you guys here 2449 01:53:15,720 --> 01:53:17,719 Speaker 1: in the West Coast. You guys had the Raider starter 2450 01:53:17,800 --> 01:53:20,439 Speaker 1: jacket back East, bad things happen that. 2451 01:53:20,520 --> 01:53:22,160 Speaker 6: I mean, not everybody's a Raider fan. 2452 01:53:22,160 --> 01:53:24,679 Speaker 1: Okay, but the Raider jacket though, right. 2453 01:53:24,680 --> 01:53:29,120 Speaker 11: The Lakers starter jacket still really okay. My bad takeaway 2454 01:53:29,160 --> 01:53:33,040 Speaker 11: from this is bring back starter jackets. Yeah, that's really 2455 01:53:33,040 --> 01:53:35,160 Speaker 11: the takeaway now, that the zip up. You seem like 2456 01:53:35,439 --> 01:53:40,320 Speaker 11: you seem like a half zip pullover guy. You know, yeah, see, 2457 01:53:40,320 --> 01:53:41,360 Speaker 11: I know it. That's the one you had. 2458 01:53:41,560 --> 01:53:41,960 Speaker 3: I'd say. 2459 01:53:42,040 --> 01:53:45,120 Speaker 2: No coaches, coaches in college basketball in the NBA have 2460 01:53:45,200 --> 01:53:46,400 Speaker 2: ruined the quarter zip pull. 2461 01:53:46,320 --> 01:53:48,880 Speaker 1: Up for me. Okay, yeah, they've ruined it for me. 2462 01:53:48,880 --> 01:53:50,679 Speaker 1: I don't want to look like an assistant coach. 2463 01:53:50,960 --> 01:53:55,320 Speaker 6: You know, uh what, they have a staff of ten 2464 01:53:55,439 --> 01:53:59,480 Speaker 6: these days. Just sit close and they'll think you are. 2465 01:54:00,479 --> 01:54:03,640 Speaker 3: These guys look like fans. Yeah, sometimes it drives me. 2466 01:54:03,720 --> 01:54:06,320 Speaker 1: No, you make millions of dollars put on a tie. 2467 01:54:06,880 --> 01:54:08,960 Speaker 1: My body never was shaped for the quarter, for the 2468 01:54:09,040 --> 01:54:11,720 Speaker 1: quarter zip up, I never, It wasn't. Dude, I need 2469 01:54:11,720 --> 01:54:13,280 Speaker 1: a full I need a full zimp laugh. 2470 01:54:13,360 --> 01:54:15,200 Speaker 3: That's just I need a full zip up. I can't 2471 01:54:15,240 --> 01:54:16,439 Speaker 3: do the pull over. I can't do. 2472 01:54:16,479 --> 01:54:18,519 Speaker 1: I don't wear a lot of sweaters, you know, I'm 2473 01:54:18,560 --> 01:54:21,200 Speaker 1: just yeah, I'm not a big sweater now, especially all 2474 01:54:21,280 --> 01:54:23,680 Speaker 1: up on your neck like a turtleneck. You know, you 2475 01:54:23,720 --> 01:54:26,519 Speaker 1: gotta know, you gotta know your your dimensions of what 2476 01:54:26,600 --> 01:54:29,280 Speaker 1: works for you. The quarter. The quarterly pullover never worked 2477 01:54:29,320 --> 01:54:31,160 Speaker 1: for me. I needed to full zip up. 2478 01:54:31,160 --> 01:54:34,400 Speaker 2: Stop about this, Steve, I don't mean to step on 2479 01:54:34,440 --> 01:54:37,080 Speaker 2: your corner. Right now, we have some breaking news out 2480 01:54:37,160 --> 01:54:41,120 Speaker 2: of Kansas City. Yees and five time Pro Bowl even 2481 01:54:41,160 --> 01:54:43,320 Speaker 2: justa could Chris Jones have agreed to a. 2482 01:54:43,320 --> 01:54:48,320 Speaker 1: Five year deal with ninety five million guaranteed. I mean 2483 01:54:48,400 --> 01:54:50,520 Speaker 1: that is some cheese. 2484 01:54:50,000 --> 01:54:53,040 Speaker 6: So he will not be a free agent next week? 2485 01:54:53,160 --> 01:54:54,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, well it's not. 2486 01:54:54,800 --> 01:54:58,160 Speaker 2: That's gonna be a higher per average than Aaron Donald 2487 01:54:58,240 --> 01:55:01,600 Speaker 2: at thirty one point sixty six million per year. Uh yeah, 2488 01:55:01,800 --> 01:55:03,720 Speaker 2: that's gonna be ninety five million over five years. Is 2489 01:55:03,720 --> 01:55:05,080 Speaker 2: gonna be a little bit more than that on ninety 2490 01:55:05,120 --> 01:55:05,760 Speaker 2: five guaranteed. 2491 01:55:05,760 --> 01:55:07,280 Speaker 1: I should say, you don't know what that means? 2492 01:55:07,440 --> 01:55:08,000 Speaker 3: What does that mean? 2493 01:55:08,080 --> 01:55:10,080 Speaker 1: We'll be watching the Kansas City Chiefs in the Super 2494 01:55:10,120 --> 01:55:10,640 Speaker 1: Bowl again. 2495 01:55:11,080 --> 01:55:14,320 Speaker 2: Well there you have it from VJ. Vernon Husky, Hey 2496 01:55:14,320 --> 01:55:17,200 Speaker 2: desk of the Big Vanilla Funny. I said, rapter, they 2497 01:55:17,240 --> 01:55:19,600 Speaker 2: won the Super Bowl. The only way to beat them 2498 01:55:20,000 --> 01:55:22,120 Speaker 2: is to get Chris Jones out of there. Yeah, would 2499 01:55:22,120 --> 01:55:24,360 Speaker 2: have threw the kitchen sink if you're a contending team. 2500 01:55:24,760 --> 01:55:26,160 Speaker 2: Now that you don't get a chance to do that. 2501 01:55:26,160 --> 01:55:27,280 Speaker 2: He's staying in Kansas City. 2502 01:55:27,520 --> 01:55:29,320 Speaker 1: I don't we might. I don't even know why we're 2503 01:55:29,320 --> 01:55:30,880 Speaker 1: gonna talk AMC football next year. 2504 01:55:31,000 --> 01:55:35,120 Speaker 3: Well, it seems like, uh, it seems like Chris Jones. 2505 01:55:35,120 --> 01:55:36,880 Speaker 2: I mean, it seems like the Kansasity Chiefs no longer 2506 01:55:36,920 --> 01:55:39,320 Speaker 2: have their kitchen sink because at five years, ninety five 2507 01:55:39,320 --> 01:55:42,720 Speaker 2: million dollars guaranteed, that's the guaranteed money, folks, not all 2508 01:55:42,800 --> 01:55:43,280 Speaker 2: of the money. 2509 01:55:43,320 --> 01:55:44,600 Speaker 3: They guaranteed money. 2510 01:55:44,680 --> 01:55:45,000 Speaker 1: Damn. 2511 01:55:45,680 --> 01:55:46,400 Speaker 3: I mean, Lloyd Ma. 2512 01:55:46,640 --> 01:55:48,720 Speaker 2: We'll have more on that one and a little bit 2513 01:55:48,720 --> 01:55:51,040 Speaker 2: of free agent quarterback talk coming up next Martin and VJ, 2514 01:55:51,160 --> 01:56:02,360 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. Martin and VJ coming to your Life 2515 01:56:02,360 --> 01:56:05,400 Speaker 2: from the tiraq dot com studios. And as we just 2516 01:56:05,440 --> 01:56:09,440 Speaker 2: said last break, Chris Jones will be back with the 2517 01:56:09,480 --> 01:56:13,280 Speaker 2: defending Super Bowl champion Kansas City Chiefs four years, ninety 2518 01:56:13,280 --> 01:56:18,680 Speaker 2: five million dollars guarantee. Still waiting on the final numbers 2519 01:56:18,680 --> 01:56:21,280 Speaker 2: of that deal to come across, looking to see if 2520 01:56:21,320 --> 01:56:23,640 Speaker 2: I can find them. 2521 01:56:23,680 --> 01:56:30,280 Speaker 1: But I don't even need to see it. I don't 2522 01:56:30,320 --> 01:56:32,280 Speaker 1: even need to see the rest of the numbers, and 2523 01:56:32,400 --> 01:56:34,560 Speaker 1: I don't care what the rest of the numbers are. 2524 01:56:34,800 --> 01:56:38,200 Speaker 1: I know guaranteed he is set and made generational wealth. 2525 01:56:38,240 --> 01:56:40,680 Speaker 1: He deserves it. I was just telling Martin during the 2526 01:56:40,680 --> 01:56:45,200 Speaker 1: commercial break. He completely wrecked San Francisco's big opportunity plays 2527 01:56:45,680 --> 01:56:49,400 Speaker 1: all Super Bowl long check that game close enough to 2528 01:56:49,520 --> 01:56:52,680 Speaker 1: allow Mahonie to be Mahoonee in the end. If he's 2529 01:56:52,760 --> 01:56:56,760 Speaker 1: not on that field that day, san Francisco and Shanahan 2530 01:56:56,880 --> 01:56:59,320 Speaker 1: have a Super Bowl ring. They don't have one, not 2531 01:56:59,440 --> 01:57:02,320 Speaker 1: because of a Mahomes but because of Chris Jones. And 2532 01:57:02,360 --> 01:57:04,800 Speaker 1: that's why you get the deal done and everybody in 2533 01:57:04,800 --> 01:57:07,520 Speaker 1: the AFC in my opinion, from this moment moving on, 2534 01:57:07,600 --> 01:57:09,640 Speaker 1: for the rest of this year, you're playing for second 2535 01:57:09,640 --> 01:57:11,920 Speaker 1: place unless you can get the Arrowhead and get a 2536 01:57:11,960 --> 01:57:14,480 Speaker 1: dub Inn AMC championship game. Does it look like we're having. 2537 01:57:14,840 --> 01:57:16,880 Speaker 2: We'll see if they're able to hold on to Lugerious 2538 01:57:16,880 --> 01:57:20,120 Speaker 2: Snead as well as they franchise tag That feels more 2539 01:57:20,240 --> 01:57:23,040 Speaker 2: like a tagging trade scenario. But I know if they 2540 01:57:23,040 --> 01:57:25,520 Speaker 2: can keep their hands on him some kind of way. 2541 01:57:25,560 --> 01:57:27,000 Speaker 2: I don't know how you end up doing it with 2542 01:57:27,080 --> 01:57:29,600 Speaker 2: the money that you just paid out, the money you're 2543 01:57:29,600 --> 01:57:34,160 Speaker 2: paying Travis and Patrick and now Chris Jones. But I 2544 01:57:34,200 --> 01:57:36,200 Speaker 2: think that's a great job by Kansas City getting that 2545 01:57:36,280 --> 01:57:40,240 Speaker 2: deal done. I think that's a great job. Well, depending 2546 01:57:40,280 --> 01:57:41,640 Speaker 2: on how you want to talk about it, and you 2547 01:57:41,640 --> 01:57:46,800 Speaker 2: know what, honestly, good on you, Kansas City, because after 2548 01:57:47,040 --> 01:57:51,000 Speaker 2: what happened with Chris Jones last season, last offseason, sitting 2549 01:57:51,040 --> 01:57:54,040 Speaker 2: out of game watching first game of the season in 2550 01:57:54,080 --> 01:57:58,480 Speaker 2: a box as the Lions beat the Chiefs. This is 2551 01:57:58,520 --> 01:58:00,680 Speaker 2: the way you take care of your players, my opinion, 2552 01:58:00,920 --> 01:58:03,720 Speaker 2: especially a guy who just I mean is still by 2553 01:58:03,760 --> 01:58:07,879 Speaker 2: my dollar, a top two to three defensive defensive lineman 2554 01:58:07,960 --> 01:58:10,520 Speaker 2: in the NFL. MA me, actually, how you feel about this? 2555 01:58:10,640 --> 01:58:13,680 Speaker 2: Our homeboy that's always posting the bottle girls? Ramiro Lichwi 2556 01:58:13,840 --> 01:58:16,760 Speaker 2: Ricon says, way too much dollars. 2557 01:58:17,440 --> 01:58:19,480 Speaker 1: The reason why the Kansas City, he said, if the 2558 01:58:19,480 --> 01:58:22,120 Speaker 1: reason the Kansas City chief defense was good, granted he 2559 01:58:22,280 --> 01:58:25,040 Speaker 1: was part of it, but they were dog dodo against 2560 01:58:25,080 --> 01:58:29,040 Speaker 1: the run. Because by the way AFC offenses will get better, 2561 01:58:29,080 --> 01:58:33,360 Speaker 1: I think someone will overthrow KC. So there's Lichuwie out 2562 01:58:33,400 --> 01:58:35,120 Speaker 1: there throwing his opinion out already on this. 2563 01:58:35,600 --> 01:58:38,680 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, the run that Kansas City has been 2564 01:58:38,680 --> 01:58:41,400 Speaker 2: on in the last five years is pretty unprecedented. 2565 01:58:41,480 --> 01:58:41,600 Speaker 10: Right. 2566 01:58:41,640 --> 01:58:45,400 Speaker 2: We haven't seen, really outside of Brady's Patriots, a team 2567 01:58:45,440 --> 01:58:48,240 Speaker 2: that is going on a runs like this. You know what, 2568 01:58:48,280 --> 01:58:52,560 Speaker 2: I'm saying in terms of just just a residency in 2569 01:58:52,600 --> 01:58:54,960 Speaker 2: the AFC Championship game. You know what I'm saying, like 2570 01:58:55,040 --> 01:59:00,240 Speaker 2: pretty much just just there. Just pin him in, pen 2571 01:59:00,360 --> 01:59:04,040 Speaker 2: them in, not penncil pen penn Yeah to you know, Sharp, 2572 01:59:04,400 --> 01:59:06,280 Speaker 2: It's one of the things that that you know, we 2573 01:59:06,320 --> 01:59:10,080 Speaker 2: don't see that too frequently. So I don't think there 2574 01:59:10,200 --> 01:59:13,440 Speaker 2: is a too much honestly, I mean, obviously within reason, 2575 01:59:13,520 --> 01:59:16,480 Speaker 2: but Chris Jones is one of the biggest I mean, 2576 01:59:16,560 --> 01:59:19,080 Speaker 2: he is the name on the defensive line. He commands 2577 01:59:19,080 --> 01:59:20,960 Speaker 2: a double team if they don't double team, and guess 2578 01:59:21,000 --> 01:59:21,840 Speaker 2: what He's gonna get home? 2579 01:59:22,320 --> 01:59:23,320 Speaker 1: Right, And like on. 2580 01:59:23,320 --> 01:59:26,840 Speaker 2: That last play, you can see Chris Jones running at 2581 01:59:26,840 --> 01:59:29,800 Speaker 2: brock party and that's why Rock Pardy missed the throw. 2582 01:59:30,120 --> 01:59:31,240 Speaker 3: You can see on the one where he. 2583 01:59:31,240 --> 01:59:33,560 Speaker 2: Missed OUTUK in the back of the end zone, Chris 2584 01:59:33,680 --> 01:59:36,400 Speaker 2: Jones is in his last That's why he missed the throw. 2585 01:59:36,440 --> 01:59:38,440 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, It's like we could see, 2586 01:59:38,560 --> 01:59:40,640 Speaker 2: you know, you could do all types of fans and butts, 2587 01:59:40,640 --> 01:59:43,520 Speaker 2: but if you haven't, especially in the Spagnolo defense with 2588 01:59:43,880 --> 01:59:46,520 Speaker 2: as many exotic blitzers as he puts together, when you 2589 01:59:46,560 --> 01:59:49,560 Speaker 2: have a defensive lineman that commands two to three people 2590 01:59:49,600 --> 01:59:50,640 Speaker 2: in every single play. 2591 01:59:50,960 --> 01:59:52,520 Speaker 3: That's how the blitz Lands are open. 2592 01:59:52,840 --> 01:59:56,440 Speaker 2: That combined with two shutdown corners, that's how Steve Facnolo 2593 01:59:56,560 --> 01:59:59,440 Speaker 2: defense is able to do all the sexy, exotic things 2594 01:59:59,440 --> 02:00:01,240 Speaker 2: that he actually does. Is doing just that. 2595 02:00:01,520 --> 02:00:04,080 Speaker 1: He just he just wrecked your day. He just wrecked 2596 02:00:04,120 --> 02:00:09,320 Speaker 1: your offense. He just schematics x's and o's, slants, stunts, 2597 02:00:09,520 --> 02:00:12,640 Speaker 1: what what, throw it out the window, just hike the 2598 02:00:12,680 --> 02:00:16,839 Speaker 1: ball and hear it's Aaron donald Is, It's it's Lawrence Taylor, 2599 02:00:16,880 --> 02:00:19,440 Speaker 1: It's Reggie White, you know what I'm saying. It's Javon Curse, 2600 02:00:19,760 --> 02:00:22,560 Speaker 1: It's it's a Warren Sapp. It's those type of guys. 2601 02:00:22,800 --> 02:00:26,080 Speaker 1: They they just they wreck your day. They absolutely do, 2602 02:00:26,240 --> 02:00:27,480 Speaker 1: but don't have your day WRECT. 2603 02:00:27,520 --> 02:00:30,080 Speaker 2: Stay tuned to Fox Sports Radio with Aaron Towards, Jason 2604 02:00:30,080 --> 02:00:30,680 Speaker 2: Martin dumb neckt