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Speaker 1: Jones hired Bill Parcels and he didn't get help him

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Speaker 1: get a new stadium built because he thought he would

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Speaker 1: help him getting the playoffs. Store up a lot of

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl conversation and it worked to perfection. Wow, John,

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Speaker 1: what do you have going on for us to know about? Well?

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Speaker 1: Other talk shows? I'm tweeting a lot and I will

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Speaker 1: continue to tweet a lot as we get ready for

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Speaker 1: the startup training camp. It'll be first My first one

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Speaker 1: was in seventy seven, and you know this sounds. I've

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Speaker 1: been in Texas my whole life. Hot weather doesn't bother me,

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Speaker 1: and so I'm pumped. You know, I'm pumped to be

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Speaker 1: able to see all these players, the young players, the

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Speaker 1: players from last chair who flashed all the draft choices,

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Speaker 1: free agents. I think it's going to be when we

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Speaker 1: in the media have had controversy big time in the

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Speaker 1: last two training camps. DeAndre Hopkins had been traded twenty

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Speaker 1: four point lead that was blown last year with Watson.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be so much fun to just be able

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Speaker 1: to worry about football. Can't wait. General look forward to

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Speaker 1: having you on out there. And next week is well Thursday,

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Speaker 1: and I visit as usual, Thanks for being with us,

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Speaker 1: Thank you guys very much, as always. All right, coming

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Speaker 1: up on the program, we're gonna play Who's Better. We

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Speaker 1: do this on Thursdays sometime. Texans running backs in play

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Speaker 1: here AFC South History, Undrafted free Agents. What are we

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Speaker 1: gonna make that interesting? Of course we will. You know,

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Speaker 1: we do this every time. And I'm gonna stump Johnny

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Speaker 1: on another hard to pick best show question. It's all

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Speaker 1: coming up here on Texans Radio. More Texans Radio is

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Speaker 1: on the way. Two is better than one? How many

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Speaker 1: Chickson's Radio, He's back yesterday is Mark Vandermayer and John

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Speaker 1: Harris with you. Great to have you listening tonight. We're

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Speaker 1: live here in the Hunday Texans Radio mobile studio having

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Speaker 1: a good time, looking forward to training camp, which begins

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Speaker 1: two weeks from tomorrow. Will be out on the field

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Speaker 1: every day first ten business days of camp. That'll be

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Speaker 1: eight to ten AM with the programs. Sports Radio six

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Speaker 1: ten shows will be out there as well, but we

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Speaker 1: do our usual two hour block well the General and

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Speaker 1: Nicki Seio's gonna kick off camp coverage with us two

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Speaker 1: weeks from tomorrow, July twenty nine, at the Houston Methodist

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Speaker 1: Training Center. Let's do it, Johnny, you're ready to play

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Speaker 1: who's better? Let's do it. Let's go. Okay, let's go

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Speaker 1: some running back themes here, and let's go with the

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Speaker 1: Texans first here, better Texans back. I'm not gonna go

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Speaker 1: with the all time best Texans back, Arian Foster second

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Speaker 1: best in my opinion as Dominic Davis. We'll go with

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Speaker 1: these guys though, better Texans back. Lamar Miller or Carlos Hide.

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Speaker 1: Hide only had one year here, but Miller twenty sixteen.

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Speaker 1: We talked about how that twenty sixteen running game was

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Speaker 1: better than you think. Twenty eighteen had that magnificent ninety

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Speaker 1: seven yard run on Monday Night football on the night

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Speaker 1: we honored mister McNair. But Carlos Hide big performance in

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Speaker 1: twenty nineteen to help this team get yards on the

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Speaker 1: ground and also catch the ball on occasion. Better back

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Speaker 1: Lamar Miller or Carlos Hide for the Houston Texans. Lamar

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Speaker 1: Miller I was always a big Lamar fan. I think

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Speaker 1: Lamar did a lot of little things that people people miss.

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Speaker 1: Remember that Seattle game in twenty seventeen, the very first drive,

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Speaker 1: it was second in twelve and Seattle had a guy

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Speaker 1: come free off the edge and Lamar happened to see

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Speaker 1: it and peeled out and got him and Deshan ended

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Speaker 1: up hitting that long bomb the wheel fuller for the

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Speaker 1: first touchdown, which set that game off on a roller coaster.

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Speaker 1: He did little things like that all the time. I

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Speaker 1: remember going to Mexico City and he carried about twenty

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Speaker 1: five times that night. I mean he was exhausted in

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Speaker 1: Mexico City. That's long ramps to get back to the

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Speaker 1: locker room. I mean they were brutal. They were about

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Speaker 1: a thirty to thirty five angle up and so I'm

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Speaker 1: walking up at the same time and like he's struggling

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Speaker 1: to get up that thing, and I grabbed his helen.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he just gave of himself so much. He

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Speaker 1: just never I think to use Lamar Miller properly, it

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Speaker 1: would have taken the offensive line to be a little

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Speaker 1: bit better, be a little bit more consistent. But also

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Speaker 1: I think having another back that could have taken some

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Speaker 1: of the pounding in the fourth quarter, that could have

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Speaker 1: been the four minute back. I said this offering about Lamar.

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Speaker 1: He was. He was in the class of a Ferrari

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Speaker 1: Lamborghini like speedwise, that's what you wanted him to be.

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Speaker 1: But they had to use him like an F one fifty.

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Speaker 1: And I think in twenty seventeen it looked like it

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Speaker 1: might have changed with Deontae form and stepping up and

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Speaker 1: hey this is and then Deonta gets hurt and that

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Speaker 1: kind of went down to tubes and they kind of

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Speaker 1: went back to having to use Lamar as much as

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Speaker 1: they did. So I'm gonna say Lamar Miller. On a

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Speaker 1: side note, today, our buddy, the dart wizard, Tyler Suttarth,

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Speaker 1: had he asked me, what's do you remember an Arian

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Speaker 1: foster stiff arm And I immediately thought of the running

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Speaker 1: the running against the Bengals for the touchdown against Chris Crocker.

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Speaker 1: But it's not like, that's not a Derrick Henry type

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Speaker 1: stiff arm. And I'm like, man, I remember Arian having

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Speaker 1: a stiff arm, like a really good one. And then

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Speaker 1: so I put his name into Google. There's a twenty

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Speaker 1: five minute Arian Foster highlight video from two thousand and nine.

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Speaker 1: All the way through. I mean, Mark, it's like running

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Speaker 1: back orgasmic. I mean, it's unbelievable to watch. I just

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Speaker 1: I sat there and watched the whole thing, and as

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Speaker 1: I'm watching, you mentioned it. There's just no comparison to

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Speaker 1: him in this organization. And I'd like for one of

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Speaker 1: these running backs, hopefully Damian Pierce, to at least get close.

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Speaker 1: But he was so good, and I think we took

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Speaker 1: him for granted because it was you sneezed and you know,

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Speaker 1: he was gone. It was five years basically, and then

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Speaker 1: you know, out the door. But I found it. I

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Speaker 1: found the stiff arm. Hastleback in a diaper game, he

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Speaker 1: catches his little circle route out of the backfield, he

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Speaker 1: shakes off the linebacker and then he absolutely pie faces

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Speaker 1: bullet the safety from the Colts and it is just

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Speaker 1: Derek Henry like, and I don't know what what Tyler

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Speaker 1: is gonna do with it, but I got a feeling

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Speaker 1: he'll do something cool with it in some hype video

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Speaker 1: or whatever the case might be. But it was really cool.

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Speaker 1: There is just no I mean, not even close. I

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Speaker 1: know you love Dominic Davis. I didn't see Dominic up close,

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Speaker 1: but I saw Arian up close. I saw what he did.

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Speaker 1: And if you go back and you watch this video,

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Speaker 1: you remember how great he was because it was chunk runs.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't four and five yards of pop. He could

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Speaker 1: get those. He was great down on the goal line too.

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Speaker 1: He was the best goal line back yep that we've seen.

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Speaker 1: But man, those chunk runs it was fifteen to twenty

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Speaker 1: yard runs he'd get through the line and then a

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Speaker 1: linebacker he just shake him in space. I mean, Raymund

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Speaker 1: Lucas still looking to get a hand on Arian Foster.

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Speaker 1: So from that perspective, he was so, so very good.

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Speaker 1: But I would say Lamar Miller, and then two you

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Speaker 1: asked me Lamar Miller, I'd take over. Carlos hide Gosh,

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Speaker 1: I forgot. Arian Foster even played in the Hasslebeck in

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Speaker 1: a Diaper game in twenty fifteen, which by the way,

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Speaker 1: was yet another Colts game coming off a blowout loss.

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Speaker 1: That was a Thursday night er ye, coming off a

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Speaker 1: loss to Atlanta. And I wrote about the underrated win

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Speaker 1: of twenty nine teen playing the Colts on a Thursday

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Speaker 1: night coming off the blowout loss to the Baltimore Ravens.

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Speaker 1: And you beat him in twenty nineteen, but obviously didn't

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Speaker 1: beat him in twenty fifteen with Hasselbeck and a diaper.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I want to go back and look at

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Speaker 1: that one for sure. Look I agree. I mean, Foster's

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Speaker 1: the best back. I said it. I'd like Dominic because

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Speaker 1: I thought he was pretty cool. He did some good,

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Speaker 1: good things. He was Lamar Miller like in that he

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Speaker 1: wasn't a back that you should run every down, but

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Speaker 1: they were forced to do it because they had nobody else.

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Speaker 1: And another Lamar Miller play was also against the Colts

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Speaker 1: in a primetime game the Sunday Nighter when they were

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Speaker 1: out of the game, but Oswana just sort of dumps

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Speaker 1: it off to him inside the ten and whoop, whoop, whoop,

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Speaker 1: gets his way into the end zone and all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden, hey, maybe we got a game here and

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Speaker 1: obviously they ended up winning that night. That was incredible

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00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 1: that that move. I was standing in the end zone

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Speaker 1: for that particular and I see him throw the ball

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Speaker 1: to Lamar. I'm like, oh God, because I can see

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Speaker 1: all the colts coming from that side, and then, like

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Speaker 1: you said, he just escaped them all and scored and thought, well,

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Speaker 1: never know, we'll see what happens. And then you know,

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Speaker 1: rockcasts whither happened. But that's a different story altogether. Okay,

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Speaker 1: another who's better? And we go into the history books

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Speaker 1: for this one of the AFC South. These backs began

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Speaker 1: their careers before there was an AFC South, but they

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Speaker 1: played during the AFC South era as well. Better AFC

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Speaker 1: South back Fred Taylor or Eddie George. We're going on

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Speaker 1: a way back machine for this one. Taylor was outstanding

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Speaker 1: for the Jacksonville Jaguars. He's ahead of Eddie George in

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Speaker 1: the all time rushing list and he's had about twelve

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Speaker 1: hundred yards more than Eddie George. But man, you get

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Speaker 1: over ten thousand and I'm sorry, You're in the club

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Speaker 1: and we don't have to question you. Right. They have

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Speaker 1: similar numbers and catches throughout their career. So who's better

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Speaker 1: Fred Taylor or Eddie George. I will say this, I

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Speaker 1: think Fred Taylor is most underrated back in NFL history,

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Speaker 1: without a doubt. I think he's the most underrated running

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Speaker 1: back ever. And look I'm a little bit biased. I

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Speaker 1: saw him in college when he was at the University

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Speaker 1: of Florida. He came from Bell Glades and was just phenomenal.

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Speaker 1: He was in kre like this kid's this guy's a freshman.

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Speaker 1: And then I remember in ninety seven he got there

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Speaker 1: in ninety five, they won championship. Ninety six. Ninety seven

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Speaker 1: is his junior year and he goes off against Florida State.

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Speaker 1: I mean he goes off and he always got tagged

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Speaker 1: with that, oh he's injury pro way he got to

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Speaker 1: the league because there was one of the first couple

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Speaker 1: of years he got banged up. But if you go

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Speaker 1: back and look at it, that was just a narrative

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Speaker 1: that got started and it never changed over his career.

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Speaker 1: The final seventy years of his career, I don't think

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Speaker 1: he missed a game or so. I think Fred Taylor's

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Speaker 1: most underrated running back there there's been in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Because when you talk about the great ones you just

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Speaker 1: don't like. Fred Taylor doesn't come up playing in Jacksonville.

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Speaker 1: He got hurt a little bit at the beginning of

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Speaker 1: his career, so he got labeled with that injury you

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Speaker 1: know tag. But he was incredibly productive and he had

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Speaker 1: speed and size like a lot of running backs don't

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Speaker 1: have now in the NFL. He was absolutely phenomenal. I

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Speaker 1: will take Fred Taylor all day, every day, no no

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Speaker 1: fence to Eddie George. Eddie was great. And Eddie's the

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Speaker 1: type of back you would want. And if you told

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Speaker 1: me pick five backs, Eddie might be in those top

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Speaker 1: five backs. But Fred Taylor to me, was special. He

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Speaker 1: was unfair. And I think fred is one of the

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Speaker 1: in NFL history. All right, Johnny, And finally, who's better?

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Speaker 1: We're gonna go back to the tube. The other day

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Speaker 1: I asked you a who's better kind of question? What

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Speaker 1: was a better series Stranger Things or better? Call Saul?

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna stump you again today. Maybe I won't. Maybe

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Speaker 1: this is super easy for you. We're gonna go history

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Speaker 1: books with this one. Better sitcom Seinfeld or Friends better sitcom?

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Speaker 1: I know I'm getting a lot of eye rolls out there,

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Speaker 1: like a vandomer. Of course, Seinfeld is better. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: point this out though, and I kind of agree with that,

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Speaker 1: but I'm going to point this out. Friends, by far

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Speaker 1: as the most successful sitcom in the history of television,

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Speaker 1: most successful, no question about it. I can't think of

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Speaker 1: another sitcom. And there have been many that have been

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Speaker 1: run through reruns forever, like I Love Lucy if you

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Speaker 1: go back, and the Honeymooners in the early days, and

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Speaker 1: Mash forever and ever. Seinfeld has had its run but Friends,

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Speaker 1: Johnny three networks basically have their entire programming schedule Friends reruns,

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Speaker 1: right like niked Knight. There are a couple of other ones.

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Speaker 1: What do you think? Yes, I could sell TBS. Yes,

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Speaker 1: here's the thing Seinfeld. Seinfeld was fantastically like. There were

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Speaker 1: moments of Seinfeld where you fall on the four laughing

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Speaker 1: in Friends. I don't know if you ever did that.

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Speaker 1: I think you just consistently were like, this is a

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Speaker 1: really good show. You you'd chuckle and laugh. You just

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Speaker 1: felt very comfortable watching it. So for those people up

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Speaker 1: there and they may know this. If you stream, let

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Speaker 1: me give you you know how you used to have

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Speaker 1: do is fine where those shows are. So like, I

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Speaker 1: don't like Seinfeld's playing. I think it was on TBS.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it still is, but I know

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Speaker 1: Friends does, and so on my streaming service, if you

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Speaker 1: just put ad to library, it has every France episode ever,

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Speaker 1: And so in my household, which I find hilarrys, my

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Speaker 1: wife and I watched every episode of Friends. So I

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Speaker 1: came back when my daughter started getting older, she wanted

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Speaker 1: to watch a show, and so she started watching Friends.

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Speaker 1: And it was I can't believe I'm gonna say this,

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Speaker 1: but Friends got us through the pandemic. My daughter would

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Speaker 1: his own thing, and he didn't really care for Friends

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Speaker 1: all that much, and he kind of ripped on it.

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Speaker 1: But the three of us would watch Friends and just

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Speaker 1: have it on, and it was just so comforting to

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Speaker 1: have it on Seinfeld. There was always this level of

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Speaker 1: not cringe, but just every now and again you just

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Speaker 1: kind of felt like, oh, I can't believe that happened

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Speaker 1: to Jerry. Oh you know, you just had those kind

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Speaker 1: of moments. You didn't really have those with Friends. There

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Speaker 1: was just always this kind of constant laughter. So I

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Speaker 1: do think it's Seinfeld. I think Seinfeld is the greatest

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Speaker 1: series ever been. Friends is a lot closer to it

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Speaker 1: than some people want might might think. The other day,

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Speaker 1: I just I flipped it on. I got home. It

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Speaker 1: was I don't know, ten ten thirty at night, and

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Speaker 1: I didn't really know what to watch, and I was

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Speaker 1: trying to wind down, and I just threw on a

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Speaker 1: couple episodes and one went right to the next, went

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Speaker 1: right to the next, and it was great. I think

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Speaker 1: Friends is to some people, it's it's a lover hate

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Speaker 1: there's no middle ground, and the Harris family is definitely

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Speaker 1: on the love side of Friends. You can't go wrong

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Speaker 1: with it. It's funny, they got great looking women, it's funny.

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Speaker 1: I mean, look it's that kind of thing. But Seinfeld,

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Speaker 1: I think is the more clever show. And yeah, I

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Speaker 1: think Friends is the most successful long term while it

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Speaker 1: was on, Seinfeld was more successful. It was constantly number

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Speaker 1: one and on the same night and on the same network. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: that was Who's better? So we always ended with a

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Speaker 1: kicker kind of thing. And we're not going to talk

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Speaker 1: kickers next, because Johnny doesn't like talking kickers. But he's

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Speaker 1: gonna tell me who the best receiver in the NFL is,

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Speaker 1: who says he's still getting better, still improving, and who's

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Speaker 1: going to catch the first touchdown? Passing training camp, when

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Speaker 1: they first Johnny, when they first go to eleven on eleven,

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Speaker 1: first eleven on eleven work, real competitive stuff, not slow

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Speaker 1: motion three quarter speed, real competitive stuff. Who's going to

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Speaker 1: catch the first touchdown? We're gonna make our predictions tonight

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Speaker 1: But we have a lot of fans and a lot

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Speaker 1: of fans listening right now, so that's very cool. Johnny

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Speaker 1: Cooper Cup is the best receiver in the league. Yes

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Speaker 1: or no? Oh boy, I mean, come on, you gotta

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Speaker 1: give me an answer. I know I'm giving you an answer.

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Speaker 1: I gotta think, do this for a second. I think

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Speaker 1: he is, Yes, I think he is the best right now.

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Speaker 1: But I think by the end of it. Right now,

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Speaker 1: right now, I think by the end of the year,

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Speaker 1: it will beat Jamara. Yeah, I think Jamark Chase is special.

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Speaker 1: I thought that going into the draft. I think, but

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Speaker 1: I think Cooper Cup. I love Mark. This was gosh.

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Speaker 1: I can't remember how long it goes, but it's about

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Speaker 1: a month and a half ago, two months ago. There's

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Speaker 1: a YouTube account called NFL Throwback and they have all

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Speaker 1: these different it's really cool. It's a really cool YouTube channel.

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Speaker 1: And one day they threw up Cooper Cup's game when

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Speaker 1: he was at Eastern Washington against Oregon, and he had

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Speaker 1: fifteen catches for two hundred fifty something yards and it

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Speaker 1: was just it was, I mean, it was like watching

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Speaker 1: rams Cooper Cup just at Eastern Washington. I mean he was.

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Speaker 1: It was brilliant, deep, short catching, run, great hands, I

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Speaker 1: mean everything. And then they show and they're showing the game,

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Speaker 1: so not just showing his highlights, so showing the game

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Speaker 1: and they're like touchdown Kendrick Bourne. I'm like Kendrick Bourne.

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Speaker 1: Kendrick Bourne and Cooper Cup. I totally forgot they were together.

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Speaker 1: You know. By the way, there's a defensive end named

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Speaker 1: Sampson Ebbacom who ended up coming to the league and

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Speaker 1: doing some great things with the Rams as well. That

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Speaker 1: Eastern Washington team was jacked back in twenty fifteen, and

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Speaker 1: the running back for Oregon at night was Royce Freeman.

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Speaker 1: Royce Freeman on that Oh, with that group, that's amazing.

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Speaker 1: All right, tell me this, who's going to catch the

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Speaker 1: first touchdown pass of camp? Once they get into eleven

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Speaker 1: on eleven, real competitive work, three quarter speed, not on air.

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Speaker 1: It's eleven on eleven and they're lining up, and look,

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Speaker 1: they won't be in pads the first day to what

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Speaker 1: do they have? Third day in pads, fourth day, whatever

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Speaker 1: it is, But it won't be on day one, correct, Okay?

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Speaker 1: And they practice two days then they have the mandatory

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Speaker 1: well they've designated it as a mandatory day off Sunday,

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Speaker 1: So they practice Friday, Saturday, Sunday off Monday, probably no pads. Tuesday,

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Speaker 1: probably pads, That's what I'm guessing. But anyway, but they'll

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Speaker 1: go full they'll go pretty hard here on Friday. So

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Speaker 1: when they do that, who's getting the first touchdown pass?

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Speaker 1: It's a complete random crapshoot here. But I want your

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Speaker 1: prediction right now and we will see who was right.

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Speaker 1: This is a little bit easier than the Cooper Cup

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Speaker 1: being the best wide receiver to the league. I think

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Speaker 1: the wide receivers in the league A really yeah, this

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Speaker 1: is easy to me. This is Brevin Jordan. I think

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Speaker 1: Brevin Jordan is going to be that guy. I think

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Speaker 1: when you start training camp, the dbs are very conscious

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Speaker 1: of we're not gonna get beat deep. We're not gonna

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Speaker 1: let Brandon Cooks, you know, beat us, and then they

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Speaker 1: get caught in not they get caught in base personnel.

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Speaker 1: And if you're in base personnel against Brevin Jordan. I

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Speaker 1: think that's one of the things hopefully that pet Hamilton

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Speaker 1: can exploit this year is in using twelve personnel two

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Speaker 1: tight ends. This was something the Patriots did really good

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Speaker 1: job with with their their personnel. They could use two

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Speaker 1: tight ends, but then they could split you out and

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Speaker 1: go five wild I mean empty with those two tight ends,

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Speaker 1: so they can get you in base personnel and then

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Speaker 1: because you're in base personnel because you got two tight ends,

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Speaker 1: then you'd have a linebacker matched up on Rob Gronkowski

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Speaker 1: and they kill you. And that's kind of the hope

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Speaker 1: is you go, you go twelve personnel, but then maybe

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Speaker 1: you spread teams out. And also you got a linebacker

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Speaker 1: on Brevit Jordan, you can forget it. That's got to

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Speaker 1: be a matchup that he exploits and he wins all

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Speaker 1: the time. So I think you can have some fun

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Speaker 1: with these tight ends and twelve personnel this year, especially

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Speaker 1: Brevit Jordan and Farrell Brown. So I'm going Brevin Jordan

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Speaker 1: is that guy? See, I like your logic and I

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Speaker 1: but I'll go Farrell Brown. Farrell Brown's gonna do it.

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Speaker 1: You've got Brevin Jordan. We'll see was right. Hopefully we

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Speaker 1: can see it from our broadcast position as we broadcast

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Speaker 1: from Camp two weeks from tomorrow morning for the first

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Speaker 1: time in twenty twenty two. It's gonna be good. That's

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Speaker 1: gonna do it for the show tonight tomorrow night. Among

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Speaker 1: other things. Speaking of Camp, what characteristics went into the

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Speaker 1: best ever seasons for the Texans as far as the

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Speaker 1: training camp that preceded them, and does this year's team

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Speaker 1: share any of those same characteristics potentially. We'll go over

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Speaker 1: that tomorrow, among other things. Don't be late for class

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Speaker 1: six o'clock tomorrow and enjoy the Sports Radio six ten

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