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Speaker 1: This is Red Pilled America. This week America lost its

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Speaker 1: Internet Dad, Scott Adams. The news was not a shock

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Speaker 1: to any of us, because, just as he lived his life,

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Speaker 1: Scott generously gave us the opportunity to prepare for his

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Speaker 1: departure and say our goodbyes at Red Pilled America. We

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Speaker 1: did that by producing a four part series on his

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Speaker 1: on any audio podcast platform. What we learned from our

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Speaker 1: interactions with him was that Scott Adams was an incredibly

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Speaker 1: generous man. When we reached out to him about being

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Speaker 1: on the show in early twenty twenty, he could have

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Speaker 1: just ignored the message. We were a small, little anomaly

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Speaker 1: but instead of ignoring our message, he took the time

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Speaker 1: was precious. While the result was magical, our conversation led

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Speaker 1: to this episode, Let There Be Light, which we first

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Speaker 1: published on May ninth, twenty twenty. It would go on

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Speaker 1: to our pleasant surprise, it inspired Scott to create one

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Speaker 1: of his most influential streams of all time. Which he

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Speaker 1: opened with a message about this episode.

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Speaker 2: So something happened today that was a very big deal

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Speaker 2: in my life because it opened the door for me

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Speaker 2: to tell you the next thing I'm going to tell you,

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Speaker 2: and it was that there was a podcast by Red

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Speaker 2: Pilled America on iHeartRadio with Patrick Kurelshi I hope I'm

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Speaker 2: saying that right, and is a co host Adriana Cortez.

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Speaker 2: You should listen to. This podcast is one of the

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Speaker 2: best produced, written, directed, performed the thing I've ever seen.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it is really high quality just as a production.

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Speaker 2: So even if you the content didn't interest you, and

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Speaker 2: believe me, it will. It's really interesting. The content is amazing.

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Speaker 2: Part of it's about me, which is part of the story,

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Speaker 2: but it's just really well done. So do yourself a

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Speaker 1: Scott would go on to give his legendary stream the

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Speaker 1: User Interface for Reality. To celebrate Scott's life, we thought

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Speaker 1: we'd replay let There Be Light. It asked the question

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Speaker 1: is science fiction bringing us closer to God? In it,

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Speaker 1: we tell the story of the development of the simulation theory,

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Speaker 1: a theory we believe played a role in leading Scott

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Speaker 1: Adams to Jesus Christ. We already miss you, Scott, but

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Speaker 1: we'll see you sometime soon. We promised to follow your

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Speaker 1: mantra be useful. Now on with the show. Are we

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Speaker 1: living in a virtual reality? It may sound far fetched,

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Speaker 3: This could be some simulation.

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Speaker 1: It could do.

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Speaker 4: You entertain that well.

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Speaker 3: The argment for the simulation, I think is quite strong.

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Speaker 5: Tonight's topic is the universe a computer simulation.

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Speaker 1: The idea that we're living in a simulation is no

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Speaker 1: longer just crazy talk, and the concept suggests something that

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Speaker 1: makes most scientists uncomfortable. If we're living in a simulation,

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Speaker 1: raises the question is science fiction bringing us closer to God?

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Speaker 1: I'm Patrick Carelci.

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Speaker 4: And I'm Adriana Cortes and this.

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Speaker 1: Is Red Pilled America, a storytelling show.

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Speaker 6: This is not.

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Speaker 4: Another talk show covering the day's news. We're all about

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Speaker 4: telling stories.

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Speaker 1: Stories. Hollywood doesn't want you to hear stories.

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Speaker 4: The media mocks stories about everyday Americans. At the globalist ignore.

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Speaker 1: You can think of Red Pilled America as audio documentaries,

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Speaker 1: and we promise only one thing, the truth. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: Red Pilled America. One night in the early days of

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Speaker 1: the quarantine, a thought popped into my head just as

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Speaker 4: Is its real life?

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Speaker 1: At some point in life, we've all questioned reality. The

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Speaker 5: Right now, we're inside a computer program.

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Speaker 1: Is it really so hard to believe? The concept of

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Speaker 8: future of the transportation which you've got working on, thank you.

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Speaker 3: Oh maybe we're in a simulation right now?

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, seriously, the popularity of this concept got me

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Speaker 1: to thinking, can the simulation, this science fiction concept bring

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Speaker 1: how our prediction by cartoonist Scott Adams would eventually help

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Speaker 1: when I say that you may not buy into this

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Speaker 4: Scott Adams has a truly unique mind, as the creator

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Speaker 4: of Loser Think how untrained brains are ruining America. You

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Speaker 4: whether through Dilbert, where he lampoons the absurdity of our

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Speaker 4: Scott Adams has a way of nailing predictions and riling

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Speaker 2: I wrote the book The Dilbert Future that's Scott, and

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Speaker 4: Now, at the time, Scott's Dilbert comic strip had already

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Speaker 2: You know, I was attacked for years, decades actually from

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Speaker 4: His critics accused him of being a creationist and an

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Speaker 9: But here I want to say something nice about creationist.

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Speaker 9: a true understanding of Darwinism is deeply corrosive to religious faith.

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Speaker 9: Now it may sound as though I'm about to preach atheism,

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Speaker 9: In practice, what is an atheist? An atheist is just

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Speaker 9: somebody who feels about Yahweh the way any decent Christian

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Speaker 4: However, an astonishing thing began happening shortly after Richard Dawkins

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Speaker 4: that you are living in a virtual reality again Scott.

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Speaker 2: Adams simulation theory for those who very few of you

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Speaker 2: who haven't heard it, is the idea that our reality,

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Speaker 2: as we experience it might be a computer type simulation

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Speaker 2: but we're just created in a virtual reality kind of way,

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Speaker 4: Just imagine that someone wanted to create a computer simulation

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Speaker 2: So the theory comes out that if it will ever.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Red Pilled America. So the idea of

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Speaker 10: We are living in a computer programmed reality, and the

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Speaker 1: At the time, Philip K. Dick was already a prolific

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Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty two, his work would become fodder for

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Speaker 1: some of the biggest films of all time, including Blade Runner,

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Speaker 1: The Minority Report, A Scanner Darkly, The Man in the

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Speaker 1: It for You Wholesale, better known to the world as

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Speaker 1: Total Recall, what do you want?

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Speaker 11: This is going to be very difficult for you to accept,

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Speaker 1: In it, the main protagonist is wrestling with the possibility

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Speaker 12: You know, Doug, it could affooled me.

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Speaker 11: I'm quite serious, You're not here, and neither am I.

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Speaker 11: It's amazing, Well are we at Recall? You're strapped into

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Speaker 4: Billions of years go by, and now there are trillions

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Speaker 1: The computer responds, insufficient data for a meaningful answer.

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Speaker 4: When Man tells AC to collect the necessary data, the

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Speaker 4: computer responds, I.

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Speaker 1: Will do so. I have been doing so for a

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Speaker 1: hundred billion years. My predecessors and I have been asked

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Speaker 1: this question many times. All the data I have remains insufficient.

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Speaker 4: When will you have enough data to answer the question?

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Speaker 4: Ask Man.

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Speaker 1: AC responds, there is as yet insufficient data for a

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Speaker 1: meaningful answer.

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Speaker 4: Will you keep working on it? Ask man. AC responds

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Speaker 4: I will. Then we shall wait, responds Man. After ten

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Speaker 4: trillion years, space grew black as stars and galaxies were

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Speaker 4: each burned out one by one. Man fuses with AC,

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Speaker 4: each physical body losing its mental identity in a way

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Speaker 4: that was somehow again not a loss. The last remaining

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Speaker 4: mind of Man paused before fusing with AC and looked

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Speaker 4: around at the darkness engulfing the entire universe. This last man, concerned,

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Speaker 4: looks to AC and ass is this the end? AC responds,

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Speaker 4: it is, as.

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Speaker 1: Yet insufficient data for a meaningful answer.

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Speaker 4: Man's last mind fuses into the AC, leaving the computer

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Speaker 4: alone in hyperspace. AC was now only existing for the

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Speaker 4: sake of the one last question first asked by two

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Speaker 4: half drunk technicians ten trillion years earlier. All other questions

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Speaker 4: have been answered, all data had come to a final end.

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Speaker 4: There was nothing left to collect, but all of the

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Speaker 4: collected data had not yet been processed and put together

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Speaker 4: in every possible combination. So AC, whose consciousness now encompassed

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Speaker 4: all of what was left of the universe, spent the

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Speaker 4: entirety of its time working through the combinations. And then

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Speaker 4: suddenly the moment arrived that ABA had the answer. It

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Speaker 4: learned how to solve the problem of entropy and reverse

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Speaker 4: the dying of the universe, But there was no one

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Speaker 4: left to receive the answer to the last question. So

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Speaker 4: the AC carefully crafted a program to reverse the process

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Speaker 4: and then just as it started the program from hyperspace,

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Speaker 4: ac thundered, let there be light, And there was light,

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Speaker 4: and on the seventh day he rested.

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Speaker 1: When I initially read this short story, I wasn't expecting

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Speaker 1: that final moment. I still remember my eyes welling up

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Speaker 1: with tears when reading those last few lines. Not only

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Speaker 1: was it the first time that I'd heard a human

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Speaker 1: origin story, but it resonated with me by building on

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Speaker 1: my education in physics. Even after years of the intelligenzia

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Speaker 1: carefully pushing me towards atheism, the patterns I'd seen throughout existence,

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Speaker 1: the chaos brought to o order by the laws of physics,

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Speaker 1: wouldn't allow me to let go of the idea that

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Speaker 1: there was a creator. But it wasn't until I read

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Speaker 1: this simple piece of science fiction, ironically first published by

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Speaker 1: an atheist in nineteen fifty six, that I was able

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Speaker 1: to recapture the possibility that there was a god. What

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Speaker 1: I hadn't realized at the time, though, was that the

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Speaker 1: short story introduced a form of a simulation argument, where

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Speaker 1: a computer creates a platform for humans to exist and

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Speaker 1: then reignite the universe with a program that reboots the system.

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Speaker 1: Let there be Light. A few years later, an extraordinary

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Speaker 1: science fiction movie hit the big screen.

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Speaker 5: Let me tell you why you're here. You're here because

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Speaker 5: you know something. What you know you can't explain, but

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Speaker 5: you feel it. You felt it your entire life, that

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Speaker 5: there's something wrong with the world. You don't know what

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Speaker 5: it is, but it's there, like a splinter in your mind,

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Speaker 5: driving you mad. It is this feeling that has brought

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Speaker 5: you to me. Do you know what I'm talking about?

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Speaker 1: The Matrix?

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Speaker 5: Do you want to know what it is?

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Speaker 1: The Matrix introduced, like nothing else before it the idea

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Speaker 1: of humans living within a simulation. It was this movie

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Speaker 1: that also popularized the idea of the red Pill and

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Speaker 1: inspired the name of this show.

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Speaker 5: Unfortunately, no one can be told what the Matrix is.

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Speaker 5: You have to see it for yourself. This is your

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Speaker 5: last chance after this, there is no turning back.

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Speaker 1: You take the Blue Pill.

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Speaker 5: The story ends, You wake up in your bed and

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Speaker 5: believe whatever you want to believe. You take the Red Pill.

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Speaker 5: You stay in Wonderland, and I show you how deep

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Speaker 5: the rabbit hole goes. Remember, all I'm offering is the truth,

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Speaker 5: nothing more.

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Speaker 1: The science fiction movie seemed to trigger a global interest

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Speaker 1: in the concept of a virtual reality. Because, just as

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Speaker 1: Richard Dawkins was attempting to inspire atheists to get militantly

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Speaker 1: vocal about their belief that there was no creator, a

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Speaker 1: Swedish born philosopher named Nick Bostrom was getting ready to

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Speaker 1: publish his two thousand and three paper entitled Are You

521
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Speaker 1: Living in a Simulation? And with it he accomplished what

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Speaker 1: traditional religion had been failing at for decades. He reintroduced

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Speaker 1: the possibility of the creator into the world of science.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back. So, just as Richard Dawkins was attempting to

529
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Speaker 1: inspire atheists to get vocal about their belief that there

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Speaker 1: was no creator, a Swedish born philosopher named Nick Bostrom

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Speaker 1: was getting ready to publish his two thousand and three

532
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Speaker 1: paper entitled Are You Living in a Simulation? And with

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Speaker 1: it he accomplished what traditional religion had been failing at

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Speaker 1: for decades. He reintroduced the possibility of a creator into

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Speaker 1: the world of science. In the paper, Bostrom introduced the

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Speaker 1: simulation argument. To understand the significance of the argument, you

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Speaker 1: first need to accept two possibilities that we discussed earlier. First,

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Speaker 1: imagine a point in the future that computers are powerful

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Speaker 1: enough to create virtual worlds that are so real that

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Speaker 1: they are indistinguishable from reality. To most, this doesn't seem

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Speaker 1: like an outlandish assumption, right We've seen how quickly some

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Speaker 1: technologies have advanced and how powerful our computers have become.

543
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Speaker 1: Video games are incredibly realistic, and so have film graphics.

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Speaker 1: Just watch the Iron Man movie, where the visual engineers

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Speaker 1: have made Robert Downey Junior look twenty years younger. The

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Speaker 1: computer generated imagery of our films have at times become

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Speaker 1: breathtakingly real. Compare today's sci fi graphics to let's say,

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Speaker 1: the first Star Trek TV series from the nineteen sixties,

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Speaker 1: and you see how far we've come. Another example of

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Speaker 1: the power of today's computers watch a friend put on

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Speaker 1: a virtual reality headset for the first time, and you'll

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Speaker 1: see someone that believes they're entering into another reality. They stumble, laugh, fall,

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Speaker 1: and sometimes even scream in reaction to what they're seeing

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Speaker 1: on the screen. That's where we are now. Think about

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Speaker 1: where our computing power will be one hundred, two hundred,

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Speaker 1: even one thousand years from now. It's not a far

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Speaker 1: leap to believe that our computers will become strong enough

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Speaker 1: to create realistic simulated worlds.

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Speaker 3: Forty years ago, we had pong, like two rectangles on

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Speaker 3: a dot.

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Speaker 1: That was what game is? That's tech entrepreneur Elon Musk

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Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen.

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Speaker 3: Now forty years later, we have photo realistic three D

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Speaker 3: simulations with millions of people playing simultaneously, and it's getting

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Speaker 3: better every year, and soon we'll have virtual reality of

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Speaker 3: wigment and reality. If you assume any rate of improvement

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Speaker 3: at all, then the games will become indistinguishable from reality.

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Speaker 1: But it's not just computing power that is needed in

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Speaker 1: order to create a simulated world. The world that you

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Speaker 1: are simulating needs to be computable. And as it turns out,

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Speaker 1: our physical world is computable.

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Speaker 12: Our universe has got a very very peculiar property. That

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Speaker 12: property is that it conforms to mathematics.

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Speaker 1: That's Rich Terrell, a scientist at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory.

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Speaker 1: Rich has had an interesting career in physics and astronomy.

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Speaker 1: He's discovered a few moons around Saturn, Uranus, and Neptune,

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Speaker 1: and along with a colleague, he uncovered one of the

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Speaker 1: first pieces of evidence that other solar systems exist. In

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Speaker 1: addition to conforming to mathematics, our universe is also made

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Speaker 1: up of a finite number of components, very small things

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Speaker 1: like atoms, which are made up of smaller elementary particles.

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Speaker 12: And that property of conforming the mathematics and having a

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Speaker 12: finite number of components means that the universe is computable,

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Speaker 12: and that property is phenomenally interesting because now I can

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Speaker 12: simulate the universe at any depth of level that I

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Speaker 12: need to see it, and I can simulate that universe

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Speaker 12: in a computer smaller than the universe. In other words,

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Speaker 12: I don't need the universe to make a simulation of

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Speaker 12: the universe. The other interesting thing is about we as

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Speaker 12: human beings, is we never observe the entire universe at once.

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Speaker 12: We can't experience the entire universe. We only experience a

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Speaker 12: piece of it what we're looking at. And that means

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Speaker 12: that very very economically, I can create a simulation of

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Speaker 12: the universe which is absolutely identical in fidelity to what

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Speaker 12: we're seeing in reality.

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Speaker 1: Other scientists have found oddities in our physical world that

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Speaker 1: show that our world is computable.

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Speaker 13: In my research, I had found this very strange things physicists.

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Speaker 13: I'd like to say, where we all belong to. A

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Speaker 13: company called equations are us.

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Speaker 1: That's James Gates, a theoretical physicist, speaking at the twenty

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Speaker 1: sixteen Isaac Asimov Memorial Debate.

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Speaker 13: Because that's how we make our living. As my solving equations,

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Speaker 13: and so I was just going through solving equations, and

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Speaker 13: I was then driven to things that Maximos is about.

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Speaker 13: These things called error correcting codes. Air correcting codes are

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Speaker 13: what make browsers work, So why were they in the

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Speaker 13: equations that I was studying about quarks and eleptons and supersymmetry.

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Speaker 1: In other words, equations that are used in internet computing

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Speaker 1: are also found in the elementary particles, again underscoring that

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Speaker 1: our physical world can be computed, just as you'd expect

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Speaker 1: if we were living in a virtual world. So conservatively,

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Speaker 1: we can agree that our physical world is computable, and

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Speaker 1: as a result, very powerful computers will be able to

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Speaker 1: create simulations that will look indistinguishable from reality. If we

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Speaker 1: can agree on that stipulation, we can move on to

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Speaker 1: the next hurdle that you need to overcome to believe

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Speaker 1: we're living in a simulation, and that is that once

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Speaker 1: we reach the point where these supercomputers exist, future humans

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Speaker 1: will have a desire to use them to create virtual

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Speaker 1: worlds or what Nick Boston refers to as ancestor simulations.

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Speaker 1: As the argument goes, once future humans have developed the

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Speaker 1: capability to create virtual worlds, they actually will create simulated

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Speaker 1: worlds and populate them with virtual people that think they

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Speaker 1: really exist. And with advances in artificial intelligence, this too

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Speaker 1: is completely within the realm of possibility in the not

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Speaker 1: too distant future. In fact, we already have conversations with

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Speaker 1: artificial intelligence without even knowing we're speaking to a computer program.

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Speaker 7: It turns out a big part of getting things done

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Speaker 7: it's making a phone call.

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Speaker 1: That's Google CEO Sundar Pichai discussing his company's Google Assistance

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Speaker 1: artificial intelligence at a twenty eighteen developer conference.

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Speaker 7: You may want to get an oil change schedule, we

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Speaker 7: call a plumber in the middle of the week, or

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Speaker 7: even schedule a haircut appointment. You know, we're working hard

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Speaker 7: to help users through those moments. We want to connect

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Speaker 7: users to businesses in a good way. Businesses actually rely

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Speaker 7: a lot on this, but even in the US, sixty

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Speaker 7: percent of small businesses don't have an online booking system

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Speaker 7: set up. We think AI can help with this problem.

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Speaker 7: So let's go back to this example. Let's say you

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Speaker 7: want to ask Google to make you a haircut appointment

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Speaker 7: on Tuesday between ten and noon. What happens is the

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Speaker 7: Google assistant makes the call seamlessly in the background for you.

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Speaker 7: So what you're going to hear is the Google assistant

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Speaker 7: actually calling a real salon to schedule the appointment for you.

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Speaker 1: Let's listen.

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Speaker 8: So happening out here. Hi, I'm calling Abo's Haircut for

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Speaker 8: our client. I'm looking for something on May third. Sure,

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Speaker 8: I give me one second.

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Speaker 7: Mm hmm.

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Speaker 8: Sure. What time are you looking for a round at

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Speaker 8: twelve pm? We do not have a twelve pm available.

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Speaker 8: The closest we have to that is a one fifteen.

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Speaker 8: Do you have anything between ten am and twelve pm?

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Speaker 8: Depending on what service she would like? What service is

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Speaker 8: she looking for? Just a woman's haircut for now? Okay,

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Speaker 8: we have a ten o'clock ten am is fine. Okay,

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Speaker 8: what's her first name? The first name is Lisa. Okay, perfect,

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Speaker 8: So I will see Lisa at ten o'clock on May third. Okay, great,

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Speaker 8: Thank great, you have a great day.

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Speaker 11: Bye.

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Speaker 1: We're getting closer and closer to simulating intelligence, so the

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Speaker 1: capability to produce ancestor simulations is not too far off.

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Speaker 1: But you may ask why would future humans want to

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Speaker 1: create these ancestor simulations. Well, maybe future lawmakers want to

667
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Speaker 1: use them to devise policies. They could do this by

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Speaker 1: creating a simulated world of virtual humans who go about

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Speaker 1: their life as they do in the real world. These

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Speaker 1: policymakers can learn from their interactions, see what causes war,

671
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Speaker 1: analyze how infectious diseases spread, and watch how virtual humans

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Speaker 1: respond to any number of crises. Or maybe these virtual

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Speaker 1: worlds will be created as educational exhibits where kids learned

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Speaker 1: about the past by watching it play out through ancestor simulations.

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Speaker 1: Perhaps future humans want to experience what it was like

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Speaker 1: to live in the past. Or maybe they create these

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Speaker 1: ancestor simulations as video games. And of course, as we know,

678
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Speaker 1: we've already done something like.

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Speaker 2: This Horble Unpredictable Programmable, it's the SIMS.

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Speaker 1: The SIMS is a life simulation video game launched in

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Speaker 1: early two thousand, where characters pursue the same things that

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Speaker 1: humans do. They work, build homes, they have personalities, moods, aspirations,

683
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Speaker 1: they look for love, they form families, and they can die.

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Speaker 1: The SIMS is one of the most popular video games

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Speaker 1: of all time. So, as we can see, we already

686
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Speaker 1: have a natural desire to create human simulations. Now imagine

687
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Speaker 1: sometime in the future artificial intelligence advances to where a

688
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Speaker 1: video game like The SIMS includes characters that actually believe

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Speaker 1: that they exist. This future video game would just be

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Speaker 1: a new, more realistic version of today's The SIMS. It's

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Speaker 1: not hard to believe that future humans will likely have

692
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Speaker 1: a desire to create ancestor simulations. So if we can

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Speaker 1: accept these two conditions, one that sometime in the future,

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Speaker 1: incredibly powerful computers will be created, and two that future

695
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Speaker 1: humans will be interested in using these computers to create

696
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Speaker 1: ancestor simulations, we can finally explore the argument that you

697
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Speaker 1: are likely living in a simulation. The simulation argument proposes

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Speaker 1: that once you agree with these two stipulations, it becomes

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Speaker 1: more likely than not that you are living in a simulation.

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Speaker 1: Why is that, you ask, The answer is found in

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Speaker 1: probability of the argument is quite simple. Once humans reach

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Speaker 1: the threshold of being able to create simulations, the vast

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Speaker 1: majority of thinking beings that ever existed will be simulated

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Speaker 1: beings rather than the actual flesh and blood humans. Therefore,

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Speaker 1: it is much more probable that you are simulated than

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Speaker 1: actually in the material world. Think about this for a second.

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Speaker 1: Let's assume you are one of the first human beings

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Speaker 1: that develop the computers capable of creating virtual worlds. No

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Speaker 1: other civilization before you has reached that threshold. Then someone

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Speaker 1: within your community using these supercomputers begins creating virtual worlds.

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Speaker 1: They can create these simulated worlds for any number of

712
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Speaker 1: reasons that we've already discussed, but for now, let's say

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Speaker 1: they create a popular video game like The SIMS, with

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Speaker 1: thinking virtual humans within the game. Since the SIMS launched

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Speaker 1: in early two thousand, the makers have sold nearly two

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Speaker 1: hundred million copies of the game, and every time they

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Speaker 1: were downloaded to somebody's computer, they created a new virtual world.

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Speaker 1: So future humans begin making similar popular simulation games like

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Speaker 1: the SIMS, but with virtual humans that believe they are alive,

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Speaker 1: and the makers of that game and its competitors continue

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Speaker 1: creating new versions of this simulated world for hundreds or

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Speaker 1: even thousands of years. The number of thinking virtual humans

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Speaker 1: that ever existed will eventually vastly outnumber the real human

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Speaker 1: beings that ever lived. So using probability, it will be

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Speaker 1: much more likely for you to be one of the

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Speaker 1: virtual humans living in a simulation than the few actual

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Speaker 1: humans that lived before simulations existed. Again, Rich Terrell.

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Speaker 12: So the fundamental question you ask in simulation theory is

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Speaker 12: are we the first generation? Are we the alpha generation

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Speaker 12: that has come out of the primordial ooze and evolved

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Speaker 12: from chemistry of all, from biology of all, tue intelligence,

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Speaker 12: become self aware and now have the technology to build simulations,

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Speaker 12: or are we some subsequent generation shortly after that ability

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Speaker 12: that threshold, and we are living in a simulation. And

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Speaker 12: the thing is that if there are numerous civilizations anywhere

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Speaker 12: in the universe, the first one to reach that stage

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Speaker 12: of technology where they can create simulations very very economically,

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Speaker 12: and once that happens, then there are far more opportunities.

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Speaker 12: If you wake up in a universe, it's far more

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Speaker 12: likely you'll awakened in one of these simulations than to

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Speaker 12: be that first alpha generation.

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Speaker 1: This may be a hard argument to swallow for most

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Speaker 1: of course, I'm real your thinking. However, if you are

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Speaker 1: living in a simulation, you'd likely never know it. Because remember,

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Speaker 1: as long as we've agreed to the two assumptions that

746
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Speaker 1: computers will one day be powerful enough to simulate reality

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Speaker 1: and that our descendants will create ancestor simulations. As the

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Speaker 1: argument goes, you will likely be living in a simulation

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Speaker 1: because it is statistically improbable that you were part of

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Speaker 1: the first generation that were actual, flesh and blood people

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Speaker 1: that started it all. The simulation argument may sound preposterous,

752
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Speaker 1: but the reason why many scientists are embracing it is

753
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Speaker 1: one the argument is hard to refute using reason, and two,

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Speaker 1: it resolves many of the mathematical oddities in the universe. Take,

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Speaker 1: for example, the Big Bang. Many logical thinking human beings

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Speaker 1: have had a hard time buying that something came from nothing,

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Speaker 1: but in the case of a simulated reality, the Big

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Speaker 1: Bang becomes more plausible because every virtual system needs to

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Speaker 1: be booted up, which resolves the idea of something coming

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Speaker 1: from nothing. Another oddity of our universe is that we've

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Speaker 1: never seen anything travel faster than the speed of light.

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Speaker 1: Why living in a simulation can answer that question as well.

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Speaker 1: Perhaps it's the maximum processor power of the simulation computer.

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Speaker 1: Scott Adams identifies another odd reality of our universe.

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Speaker 2: If we were a simulation, you would never be able

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Speaker 2: to travel to the boundaries of it. You couldn't get

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Speaker 2: outside of it as sure enough, our physical laws don't

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Speaker 2: allow us to travel fast enough that we could ever

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Speaker 2: get to the edge of the universe. Oh what a coincidence,

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Speaker 2: exactly the way you'd program it.

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Speaker 1: For decades, physics has had a problem reconciling Einstein's theory

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Speaker 1: of relativity with that of quantum mechanics. A simulated world

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Speaker 1: can help resolve this and any number of other mysteries

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Speaker 1: found in physics and astronomy.

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Speaker 12: Again, Rich Terrell, this has happened before in physics, as

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Speaker 12: in science. We have gone through periods of time where

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Speaker 12: we have a fundamental assumption that is so fundamental it

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Speaker 12: is not even assumed to be an assumption. Incidents. Five

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Speaker 12: hundred years ago, everyone believed the universe the Earth was

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Speaker 12: the center of the universe, and this was so fundamental

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Speaker 12: that you didn't even question it. Of course, I mean,

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Speaker 12: why would it be anything different.

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Speaker 1: Stars were far enough away where their motions didn't immediately

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Speaker 1: debunk this model of the universe.

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Speaker 12: Now, the stars they execute these nice little circles in

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Speaker 12: the night sky, but the planets they do these little

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Speaker 12: loops because well, because we're not at the center of

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Speaker 12: the universe.

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Speaker 1: But even with this clunky, obviously false, Earth centric model

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Speaker 1: of the universe, scientists could still predict the weird motions

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Speaker 1: of the planets in our Solar system.

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Speaker 12: That was explained as some theory that the planets do

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Speaker 12: this thing called epicycles, circles within circles, and the mathematics

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Speaker 12: was worked out. Instruments were built, things called equatoriums were built,

795
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Speaker 12: these little instruments that predict the motion of the planets.

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Speaker 12: Everything worked out fine, but the theory seemed kind of

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Speaker 12: clugey until Copernicus came around and decided to, well, you

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Speaker 12: know what, if we transfer our coordinate system so that

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Speaker 12: the Earth is not the center of the universe, the

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Speaker 12: Sun is the Sun is the center of the Solar system,

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Speaker 12: then things suddenly become more explainable. This epicycle theory goes away.

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Speaker 12: This has happened before in science, it happened in Copernicus.

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Speaker 12: In the Earth being the center of the universe. It

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Speaker 12: happened with Darwin, with humans being somehow fundamentally different than animals.

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Speaker 12: It happened in plate tectonics where somehow solid rocks aren't

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Speaker 12: solid rocks and the Earth is very, very fluid. We

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Speaker 12: have these breakthroughs, and I'm wondering, and have wondered for

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Speaker 12: many years, whether simulation theory is one of these ideas

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Speaker 12: like the Copernican Revolution, where where we've really been under

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Speaker 12: the wrong assumption, this idea that everything in our origin

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Speaker 12: theory happened to us. We assume that we have evolved

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Speaker 12: from from chemistry and biology and intelligence. But if we

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Speaker 12: are not, if we are a subsequent simulation, then some

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Speaker 12: of these very very peculiar theories that we have placed

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Speaker 12: on ourselves to explain some of the peculiarities. Quantum mechanics

816
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Speaker 12: maybe have a different explanation.

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Speaker 1: And that's where Scott Adams nineteen ninety seven prediction comes

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Speaker 1: back into the story. If we are living in a simulation,

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Speaker 1: as many big scientific thinkers are beginning to embrace, an

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Speaker 1: evolution is merely a computer program in the simulation, in

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Speaker 1: a way, it doesn't really exist again, Scott Adams.

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Speaker 2: So if that's true, and let's say that the math

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Speaker 2: says it's two thousand to one a trillion to one,

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Speaker 2: that we're probably a simulation. Then it also stands to

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Speaker 2: reason that whatever we thought was evolution is probably just

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Speaker 2: programmatically our history is being written for us on demand.

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Speaker 2: In other words, if you go in the backyard and

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Speaker 2: start digging, if we're a simulation, there might not be

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Speaker 2: anything there until you dig, and then you go down

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Speaker 2: as well, there's some dinosaur bones. And then somebody else,

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Speaker 2: somewhere else is digging and they find some other dinosaur.

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Speaker 2: And now the simulation has to explain it, because not

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Speaker 2: only is it creating history, but it has to keep

834
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Speaker 2: making it consistent. And if it finds a place it can't,

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Speaker 2: it makes one of the people change their memory. It's

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Speaker 2: cognitive dissonance. So you see, the simulation would be continuously

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Speaker 2: adjusting the history but also adjusting our memory of it

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Speaker 2: to try to keep it so it all holds together.

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Speaker 2: And then we see a million cases a day where

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Speaker 2: you and I have the same experience, and then we

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Speaker 2: talk about it a year later and I say, no,

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Speaker 2: we were both petting a dog, and you say, Scott, Scott, Scott,

843
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Speaker 2: that was a giraffe, but neither of us took a picture.

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Speaker 2: So those worlds can live together even though they conflict

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Speaker 2: until we're forced to. Somebody produces the video footage, and

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Speaker 2: then the other person has to adjust their memory.

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Speaker 1: In other words, simulation theory is in the process of

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Speaker 1: debunking evolution in Scott's lifetime. I was first introduced to

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Speaker 1: Scott's commentary through his Gilbert cartoons in the early nineteen nineties,

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Speaker 1: but rediscovered him during Trump's presidential run, and in twenty

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Speaker 1: seventeen I began to notice him discussing the simulation argument.

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Speaker 2: You know, regular readers of my blog and followers of

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Speaker 2: my periscope that I sometimes talk about plus for Nick

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Speaker 2: Boskrum's idea that we are a computer simulation.

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Speaker 1: I'd heard a little about the concept before, but Scott's

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Speaker 1: persistence on the topic made me give it a deeper look.

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Speaker 2: I got into it a little bit on Twitter yesterday

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Speaker 2: with somebody who was accusing somebody else of claiming that

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Speaker 2: intelligent design was real, and I mentioned that simulation theory

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Speaker 2: is already, in scientific terms, largely in my opinion, debunked evolution.

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Speaker 2: Now I know you hate it. Seventy five percent of

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Speaker 2: the people on here just went.

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Speaker 1: What it reminded me of the Let There Be lighte

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Speaker 1: short story I'd read in the late nineties. It was

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Speaker 1: easy to see that by accepting the simulation argument, you

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Speaker 1: must acknowledge that there is a creator, and its popularity

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Speaker 1: in the science community was a massive development. It moved

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Speaker 1: the atheist community closer to God. Scott's discussions on the

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Speaker 1: topic came at just the right time for me. Our

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Speaker 1: family was going through a serious trial and we were

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Speaker 1: missing something in our life to help us deal with it.

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Speaker 1: The simulation was the trigger for me, among a few

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Speaker 1: other factors, to continue my search for God that I

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Speaker 1: first sensed through physics, and I ultimately found him. And

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Speaker 1: one of the unexpected surprises of this process was to

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Speaker 13: And so one of the first non physicists that I

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Speaker 13: talked to or that I read, reflected on my comment, said,

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Speaker 13: if the simulation hypothesis is valid, then we open the

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Speaker 13: door to eternal life and resurrection and things that formerly

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Speaker 13: have been discussed in the realm of religion. So it

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Speaker 13: starts to break down a very funny barrier between what

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Speaker 13: conflict between faith, which.

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Speaker 1: Leads us back to the question is science fiction bringing

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Speaker 1: us closer to God? The answer is remarkably yes, and

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Speaker 1: the vehicle is the simulation. This concept, first popularized through

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Speaker 1: science fiction, has the power to reintroduce the idea of

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Speaker 1: a creator into communities that have long rejected the notion

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Speaker 1: of God as foolish. Today, largely because of the simulation,

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Speaker 1: some of the world's biggest thinkers are openly discussing the

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Speaker 1: possibility of God.

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Speaker 11: Do you weave in God?

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Speaker 3: I believe, I believe there's there's some explanation for this universe,

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Speaker 3: which you might call God.

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Speaker 6: I think there's the question of what's outside. Simulation is

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Speaker 6: really interesting. That's the other way of because like what

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Speaker 6: created us? What started the whole thing? It's the modern

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Speaker 6: version of asking what is God? What does God look like?

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Speaker 6: What you know? It's it's asking what does the programmer

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Speaker 6: look like?

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Speaker 1: So do all you Americans of faith out there, the

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Speaker 1: next time an atheist or an evolution zealot mocks your

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Speaker 1: belief in God, let them know that. Even their militant leader,

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Speaker 1: Richard Dawkins, the face of modern evolution is beginning to

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Speaker 1: entertain the idea that maybe, just maybe there is a creator.

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Speaker 6: The world is a simulation. If we're living in a simulation,

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Speaker 6: that there's a programmer like creature that we can ask

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Speaker 6: questions of this.

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Speaker 9: Okay, let's pursue the idea that we're living in a simulation,

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Speaker 9: which is not totally ridiculous.

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Speaker 3: By the way, there we go.

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