1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:06,520 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Hope you had a great weekend. Everybody final 3 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 1: hour in this Monday best and worse for the weekend. 4 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:11,879 Speaker 1: More of your phone calls coming up. Cleveland Indians changing 5 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:16,920 Speaker 1: their nickname. We'll check in with the tribe. What's next? 6 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: And if it starts there, where does it go? How 7 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:23,280 Speaker 1: does it trickle down? What about the Braves, the Chiefs, 8 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 1: the Blackhawks? What about high school? What about college? I'll 9 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 1: have that for you coming up. It's an annual tradition, 10 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 1: of course, cutting down the Christmas tree and yesterday afternoon, 11 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 1: my wife always goes, Hey, we're gonna go get the tree. 12 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 1: I know you want to watch Army Navy Saturday. I 13 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 1: don't want to interrupt that we're gonna do it on Sunday. 14 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 1: I go, well, can we do it Sunday morning the 15 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 1: NFL Zone. Yeah, but you didn't say that there was 16 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:50,560 Speaker 1: a game you wanted to watch. I thought you said 17 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 1: you wanted to watch the game at night. I said, 18 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:55,279 Speaker 1: I want to watch him all day and all night, 19 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 1: I think is what I said. Oh well, I told 20 00:00:58,160 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 1: the girls that we're going to go in the afterno 21 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 1: So at two o'clock right in the middle of everything. 22 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 1: I get all dressed up as only I can, and 23 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 1: we go and chop down the tree. Still one of 24 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 1: the one of the more amazing marketing approaches. You. We're 25 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:20,400 Speaker 1: gonna charge you more for you to go cut down 26 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 1: the tree. It's like, well, charge you more for you 27 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 1: to go pick apples, and we buy into it, literally. 28 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 1: And what happens is it always sounds like everybody wants 29 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 1: to cut down the tree, and as it turns out, 30 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 1: I'm usually the one that ends up doing all the 31 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 1: heavy lifting. I get under there, I'm Paul Bunyan, and 32 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 1: then I got to bag it, and I got to 33 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:45,759 Speaker 1: wrap it up and then drag it over to get 34 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 1: it bagged up, and then put it on top of 35 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 1: the car and then take it home and then lug 36 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 1: it in. And then you try to put it up, 37 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 1: make it straight. It's not straight, dad. And then I 38 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: twisted a little bit. Let's see clockwise, and I go clockwise. 39 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 1: I'm under this damn thing clockwise. No, not that way. 40 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: And then we finally get and we got to put 41 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 1: the star on top. So then I got to get 42 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:10,919 Speaker 1: a ladder put start so it was around. I don't know, 43 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:13,799 Speaker 1: six o'clock when we're done, and then I gotta kind 44 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:16,919 Speaker 1: of play o'clock. Yes, oh yeah, no one, no, we 45 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 1: have to go get garland, We have to go get wreaths, 46 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 1: and you know, and then I'm trying to make jokes 47 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 1: like a wreatha Franklin would be a great name for 48 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 1: a wreath or wreath Witherspoon would be a good one. 49 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: And uh, I mean, I'm trying to have fun. They 50 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 1: have wine samples, so I'm trying to do some Johns 51 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:40,679 Speaker 1: of wine. But we got the tree in and I said, 52 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 1: I'm not decorating, not tonight, not gonna do it. And 53 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 1: so I got that this afternoon. Yeah, later this afternoon, 54 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:49,959 Speaker 1: I get to decorate the tree. Yeah yeah, yeah, Seaton. 55 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:53,359 Speaker 1: Were you hanging out with the host of College Game 56 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 1: Day wreath David David? There you go. My daughters don't 57 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:02,959 Speaker 1: think I'm funny. My wife doesn't either, by the way, 58 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:05,080 Speaker 1: but I would. I would be like, I'm do you 59 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 1: have the a wreath of Franklin? And the woman would 60 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 1: be like, no, I don't think so I said, do 61 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 1: you think it's because it's the seventh straight year? She said? 62 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 1: And then I go, well, what about the wreath witherspoon, 63 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 1: and then she goes, Okay, I get that that that's 64 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 1: kind of funny. Yes, funny. But did you were you 65 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 1: able to get that one nice picture that makes it 66 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:27,080 Speaker 1: look like you had a beautiful, lovely day of your 67 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:30,080 Speaker 1: family as opposed to arguing, yelling and uncomfortableness. No, the 68 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 1: picture I showed you is me under the tree. I've 69 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: got my pajamas on and I got a damn Patrick 70 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 1: sweatshirt on, and I'm under their sawing down this monstrous tree. 71 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: Bring your own. No, No No, they give you one. Yeah, 72 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 1: they give you one, and uh oh, it's quite quite 73 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 1: the experience. It really is. It's quite the experience. And 74 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 1: I say, you know, my wife goes, well done it. 75 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 1: It's fun. We could do it together. We get to 76 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 1: go chop down the tree. I go, hey, I chopped 77 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 1: down the tree. Like, how about we have a bonding 78 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: experience where we just go to the place, to the 79 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 1: tree farm and then we buy one who somebody chopped 80 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 1: it down. That's still bonding because me getting under this 81 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: tree and spending thirty minutes chopping it down, it's just 82 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:21,600 Speaker 1: me under the tree. There's no bonding there. Yeah. Seton 83 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: that's when, like four or five years ago, whenever I 84 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 1: moved into the house I live in now, my wife 85 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 1: sent my son and I to go get the tree, 86 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:33,479 Speaker 1: and I came back with one that was like ten 87 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 1: feet tall. It didn't even fit in the room. Damn 88 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: it. It It was the best tree we ever had. It 89 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:40,600 Speaker 1: was gigantic, and I sent her a picture. She was 90 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:42,600 Speaker 1: working at the time, and I sent her a picture 91 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 1: of it. She was like, what the hell was this thing? 92 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:49,160 Speaker 1: A Christmas tree? Baby? It's like yao. Ming walks into 93 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 1: a room and he asked her duck and then your 94 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 1: Christmas tree is ducking because it's gone all the way 95 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 1: to the ceiling. Yes. Point. I got the opposite seaton. 96 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 1: This year, I went with my two daughters and was 97 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 1: tasked to get the tree. And I got the one 98 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:03,279 Speaker 1: that was ignored over to the side, that was about 99 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 1: five feet two inches, and I brought it back and 100 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 1: she's like, what is this? What are they all out? 101 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: Like they weren't all out, She was what were you 102 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 1: trying to save money? Like? No, I felt bad for 103 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 1: the tree, tree as you felt bad. But the picture 104 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 1: we took three minutes later, we looked at her having 105 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:18,160 Speaker 1: a grand all time. But a PAULI, I'm with you. 106 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 1: My daughters go, Dad, are you getting emotional? Because I 107 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: always feel bad for these trees that aren't going to 108 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 1: get cut down. People walk right by him. Yes, or 109 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: we saw one that was chopped down and left and 110 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 1: I went, that is tragic. And my daughters know that. 111 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: I bummsed me out where I go. That tree is 112 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 1: not going to get a Christmas. Yes, I love that 113 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 1: because that's just like the Charlie Brown Christmas where he 114 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 1: was sent. They thought he was going to bring back 115 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: some big, fancy tree and it brought him this, you know, 116 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:48,799 Speaker 1: weak one. But then they were able to somehow salvage 117 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 1: and decorated, and he did a good thing because that 118 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 1: was just an ignored old, like just bad looking tree. 119 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 1: And I don't think you should be involved in this 120 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 1: conversation because you have not gotten a tree. No, I 121 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:01,600 Speaker 1: got this tree, but them at all. It wouldn't fit. Yeah, 122 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:03,280 Speaker 1: but you don't put up the tree, you don't take 123 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 1: down the tree, you don't decorate the tree. They have 124 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 1: a supermodel come in here. Then the only time that 125 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 1: you've ever been involved in a Christmas tree was when 126 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 1: Chrissy Teagan came in wearing her elf outfit her skirt. 127 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 1: I took significant interest in the She climbed up the 128 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:24,280 Speaker 1: ladder and Todd, of course, was decorating at the bottom 129 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 1: of the tree. It looked like it was shaking as 130 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 1: he was gonna fall. I said, some one's going to 131 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 1: hold the other basis that's quickly converted, and then jumped 132 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 1: right in. I did. I called my local rabbi, explained 133 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:35,039 Speaker 1: the situation. He gave me a weekend pass. Yeah. He 134 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 1: We hid the Hanka decorations when Chrissy Tigan came. H 135 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:42,599 Speaker 1: we promised this, and I know there are people waiting 136 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 1: in their car before they go into work or get 137 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:47,600 Speaker 1: something from their morning coffee. Paulie's best and worst of 138 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 1: the weekend. We couldn't get it in last hour, but 139 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 1: by these people got to go to work. They have 140 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:55,040 Speaker 1: things to do. Paulie, Well, I'm gonna let you all 141 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:57,599 Speaker 1: off the hook. Now my worst the weekend, it's still 142 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:00,720 Speaker 1: the Florida defensive back Marco Wilson throwing the shoe. I 143 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 1: know he didn't have any intent as a fifteen yard penalty. 144 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 1: It didn't have to be what he put the reps 145 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 1: in a tough spot. But The worst part I think 146 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 1: is that Florida plays Alabama this weekend and Florida's kind 147 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 1: of playing just the spoiler role. I don't know if 148 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: that's gonna be enough motivation. Best of the weekend Ucla 149 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 1: USC was a really good game. It feels like it's 150 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 1: been a while since been a great game. And you know, 151 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 1: Keaton Slovis is a really good quarterback of USC. But 152 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: Dorian Thompson Robinson for UCLA, he's fun to watch. He 153 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 1: kept them involved. They should have won that game. Sure 154 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 1: wasn't his fault. He had four touchdowns thirty for thirty 155 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 1: six Dorian Thompson Robinson in three hundred and sixty four yards. 156 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: More phone calls coming up best and worst of the weekend. 157 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 1: It's been a bit rocky, but we've reached the conference 158 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 1: championship week. College football closing in on its final four. 159 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: There's a chance that the top four teams this week 160 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 1: will be the same for the advance to the final four. Alabama, Clemson, 161 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 1: Ohio State heavy favorites in their conference title games. I 162 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 1: was watching the Fox promo because Fox is going to 163 00:07:56,600 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 1: carry the Ohio State Northwestern game, and you know they're 164 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 1: trying to do that big build up with the announcers 165 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 1: on there. This Saturday, Ohio State with Justin Fields takes 166 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 1: on Northwestern and then it was back to Ohio State. 167 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: They have nothing to say about Northwestern and the school 168 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 1: where Mike Greenberg went and Michael Wilbon went. Northwestern like 169 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 1: had nothing to promote other than the Ohio State in 170 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 1: Justin Fields, if Clemson beats Notre Dame, there's a good 171 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 1: chance the Irish would still get in. I'm looking at 172 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 1: the spreads here. You guys want to take a guess. 173 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 1: Alabama versus the sixth ranked team in the country Florida 174 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 1: Gators seventeen point favorite Alabama, Yes, respect thank you, Todd. 175 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:54,959 Speaker 1: Notre Dame versus Clemson, Paulie. I think Notre Dame's getting 176 00:08:56,880 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 1: seven and a half, ten and a half, ten and 177 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 1: a half. We'll talk to Trevor Lawrence. I believe on Wednesday, 178 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:10,680 Speaker 1: Iowa State Oklahoma. Everybody loves Iowa State. Oklahoma's favored by six. 179 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 1: Ohio State against Northwestern Northwestern twenty and a half point 180 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:23,439 Speaker 1: favorites over Northwestern. I don't know how much drama we're 181 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 1: going to get this weekend USC against Washington Trojans undefeated 182 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 1: USC favored by seven Cincinnati against Tulsa, the eighth ranked 183 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 1: team of the country, favored by fifteen. O. That is 184 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 1: your college football coming up next weekend. I don't know 185 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 1: if A and M gets a chance here, but you know, 186 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 1: I think people were hoping that they would have played 187 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 1: Ohio State, which I was trying to add logic to 188 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:53,559 Speaker 1: this and say, if I'm Ohio State, when opinion playing 189 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 1: Texan Alien, A and M needs to play us, we 190 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 1: don't need to face Texas A and M. If Ohio 191 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 1: State dominates, Ohio State's going to be in the final four. 192 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 1: I guess the question is if Florida beats Alabama, but 193 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 1: also if Clemson blows out Notre Dame. Let's say Clemson 194 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:16,320 Speaker 1: wins by nineteen points, do we just go that's a 195 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 1: one off because that'd be one loss and they've already 196 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:22,559 Speaker 1: beaten Clemson. Now you can say, yeah, but they beat 197 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 1: him without Trevor Lawrence and they beat him at Notre Dame. Yeah. True. 198 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:32,560 Speaker 1: But I'm just curious how the Playoffs selection committee, I'm guessing, 199 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 1: And did you guys know Urban Meyer addressed this and 200 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 1: he just said this is only going to get worse 201 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 1: You're not going to have any chance for any of 202 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 1: these other schools to play for a national championship because 203 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 1: it used to be in urban Meyer talked about this. 204 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:49,559 Speaker 1: He said, you know, kids wanted to go to USC, 205 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 1: they wanted to play in the Rose Bowl. Like kids 206 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 1: want to play in the Final Four. They don't care 207 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:57,439 Speaker 1: about the Rose Bowl. Unless the Rose bowls where the 208 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 1: national title game is, You're gonna get the same schools 209 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:04,680 Speaker 1: for the most part. Let's face it. Now, we do 210 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 1: this with college basketball. In fairness to other sports. College basketball, 211 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:12,680 Speaker 1: you go, how many schools can win like six or seven, 212 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:16,959 Speaker 1: but how many schools are at least in the running 213 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:19,719 Speaker 1: to win. How many schools get into the final four? 214 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 1: How many schools get into a national title game? And 215 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 1: you can talk about Duke. Duke didn't win with one 216 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 1: of their best teams. Ever, how about Kentucky. John Calipari's 217 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 1: had more talent, just to ask him, than anybody in 218 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 1: the last decade. They got one title show for Michigan State. 219 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 1: I mean, run to Indiana, North Carolina. College basketball is open. 220 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 1: Plus once you get these kids who go right from 221 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 1: high school to the pros, then I want to know 222 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 1: what college basketball is going to be like, but football, 223 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 1: it's not going to change. I think it just is 224 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:59,719 Speaker 1: going to reaffirm these are the schools that you need 225 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 1: to go too if you want to play for a 226 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 1: championship and not playing the pool and wee Eater Bowl. 227 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 1: Yeah it's Paul And to Urban's point, your point, Ohio 228 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 1: State just got Quinn yours. He was I don't know 229 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:15,199 Speaker 1: if that's a pronunciation. He's the Texas quarterback. High school 230 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 1: kids south Lake Carroll High School. He was going to 231 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 1: go to University of Texas. He had committed them, he decommitted. 232 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 1: Now he's going to Ohio State. He must look at 233 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 1: this season, say, look, Ohio State, look what they do. 234 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 1: They made the conference play football. They forced the conference 235 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 1: to put them in the Big Ten title game, and 236 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 1: they're gonna force a conference. You know, look what tech 237 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 1: where Texas is. He probably wanted to go to Texas 238 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 1: but he can't. Well he looks at Texas and goes, 239 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't He probably thinking I can 240 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 1: go to Ohio State justin fields going to the NFL. 241 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:44,199 Speaker 1: I can go in there. Maybe I get to play 242 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 1: as a freshman. Whether that's going to happen or not. Yeah. Mcclevitt. Also, 243 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 1: if you're a quarterback, don't you want to go to 244 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 1: Oklahoma or Ohio state where you're or Clinton where you're 245 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 1: going to be a number one pick, a top draft pick. 246 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:57,080 Speaker 1: I feel like that has to play. Do you think 247 00:12:57,120 --> 00:13:00,440 Speaker 1: that plays in the eighteen year olds minds seeing Alabama 248 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 1: dominate the draft. I don't know what plays into their minds. 249 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 1: I mean, I remember hearing stories about basketball recruits, big 250 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 1: time basketball recruits who didn't want to go to a 251 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 1: certain school because of the shoes that they wear. And 252 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 1: I was told two of the players who were now 253 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:23,839 Speaker 1: in the NBA didn't want to go to a certain 254 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 1: school because they didn't want to wear those shoes. So 255 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 1: I have no idea. I want an eighteen. I'm still 256 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:32,079 Speaker 1: trying to figure out what an eighteen year old or 257 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 1: nineteen year old or twenty year old is thinking. Every 258 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 1: day when I go home, I got a twenty two 259 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 1: year old. I have no idea what she's thinking, No idea, 260 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 1: And sometimes I look at her and I go, how 261 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 1: are we related? No clue, no clue whatsoever. Ravens Brown's 262 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:54,839 Speaker 1: coming up. McLevin says that there is high winds, heavy winds, 263 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 1: that are headed towards Cleveland. Bills handled the Steelers last night, 264 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 1: and I don't think that score was indicative of how 265 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:07,559 Speaker 1: how impressive Buffalo was against Pittsburgh. But here's Ben Roethlisberger saying, 266 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 1: we're not going to worry yet. We've lost two more 267 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 1: basist diversity, but we're not when I hit the panic button. 268 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:18,079 Speaker 1: You know, offensively, we're not very good and right now 269 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 1: we're not playing good football, and it start with me. 270 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 1: We all need to look in the mirror and like 271 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 1: I said, it starts with me and understand that we 272 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 1: all need to be better. You know, I think that 273 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 1: we will be. I think this is a team that's 274 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 1: got a lot of resilience, but that is resilient and 275 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 1: understands what it takes to win football games and understands 276 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 1: what time of year it is, and that the way 277 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 1: we're playing right now is unacceptable. The other big game 278 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 1: involving a Pennsylvania team, the Eagles look good with Jalen Hurts, 279 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 1: he wins his debut, and his head coach is not 280 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 1: quite sure who is going to be the starter next 281 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 1: weekend against Arizona. Is Joeen your starter next week? And 282 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 1: if so, what will challenge be you know, now that 283 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 1: more tape is out on, I'm gonna enjoy this one. 284 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go home and relax and be with my 285 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 1: family tonight and enjoy this win and get rid of 286 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 1: for the week. You couldn't just give us a little 287 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 1: nugget there and just say, God, I'm so proud of 288 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 1: this team, man, I really appreciate what Jalen Hurts did. 289 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 1: You know, man, I'm really proud of the defense. I'm 290 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 1: proud of my offense. So Dick, give me something, dog, 291 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 1: just give me something please? Uh yeah, Paul. If I 292 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 1: were the next reporter, I always said, coach, are you 293 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 1: gonna go home and enjoy some time with your family 294 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 1: and really enjoy this one? That's Jalen Hurts. Jale hurts 295 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 1: as I started like gone reverse psychology on him. See 296 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 1: if you've bid on it. I know you don't want 297 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 1: to tell us who's gonna be your starting quarterback. You 298 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 1: probably just want to go home and be with your family, 299 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 1: right coach, Jalen Hurts our quarterback, Kaylen Hurts, our quarterback. 300 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 1: Damn it, you got you? Oh you tricked me? Yep, 301 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 1: Seeton I like that. Even when it gets around to 302 00:15:57,080 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 1: even like remotely complimenting Jalen Hurts. He's like, oh, hold on, now, 303 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 1: it's the whole team effort. It took everybody out there. Okay, 304 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 1: it took everybody out there. Oh he wanted to. He 305 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 1: made sure that we knew. Coach, this win isn't about 306 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 1: one guy. No, it's not. It wasn't certainly felt like 307 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 1: it was about Jalen Hurts. He has ton, But to 308 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 1: Coach's credit, if he hasn't had any kind of conversation 309 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 1: with Carson Wentz, that's not how he wants to share 310 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 1: the news with Carson in front of the media and 311 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 1: then have to deal with him afterwards that he may 312 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 1: not have had that conversation with him. Yet, what do 313 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 1: you think Jalen Hurts thinks? What do you think Carson 314 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 1: Wentz thinks. I'm sure they all think that he Hurts 315 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 1: is going to be the starting quarterback, But before it's official, 316 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 1: if he hasn't sat down with Carson said hey, we're 317 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 1: going with Hurts, you know, for the Cardinals. For him 318 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 1: to hear that in some kind of press conference, because 319 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 1: someone was pushing the envelope in the media to get 320 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 1: a quote for their article, that's not the way it 321 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 1: should be had. If I replace any of you guys, 322 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 1: I will always let you know before I go public 323 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 1: with it. Okay, that's nice. I'd rather you just do 324 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 1: it live on the show. Oh yeah, Well they're like, hey, 325 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: who's that guy? Like, oh, actually he's here for you, 326 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 1: see you later. Okay, Oh should if I replaced you guys, 327 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 1: one of you guys or all of you guys, would 328 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:13,159 Speaker 1: you want me to do it during the show. So 329 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 1: we'll give you a verbal waiver now going forward? Yeah, yeah, 330 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 1: I'm good with that, Todd, are you Okay? If if 331 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 1: some by some chance, Scott Shapiro comes out of retirement, 332 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:25,119 Speaker 1: that would be tough. I could understand why you might 333 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:26,879 Speaker 1: want to go in that direction. Now do if you 334 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 1: stay it on the air, do we get to retort 335 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 1: or say anything to save our job or show our 336 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 1: discomfort with your choice, or you're just saying it on 337 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 1: the air and then we nod in approval or disapproval 338 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 1: and have to be muzzled. It's just like when people 339 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:42,919 Speaker 1: you know, get eliminated on a game show or The 340 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:46,200 Speaker 1: Bachelor at you know, it's just it's over. Just walk 341 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 1: out with your What I'll give you is a final statement, 342 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 1: and it's got to be thirty seconds or less on that. 343 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 1: What do you call it? American idol? Even when they lost, 344 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 1: they had to sing one more song. Yeah, when they 345 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:02,160 Speaker 1: cut someone, they had to let him sing their last off. Yeah, 346 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:04,679 Speaker 1: like I would let you produce one more segment, Pauli 347 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:07,400 Speaker 1: or Todd could book one more guests. But a survivor 348 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 1: that when they say the tribe has spoken, you're really 349 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:11,399 Speaker 1: not expected to then back talk or you know, you 350 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 1: can make a dirty look to one of the people 351 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 1: that you think backstabbed you instead that they were your 352 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:17,200 Speaker 1: best friend and they were going to keep voting. The 353 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 1: people who are backstabbing you are not right here on camera, right, Yeah, 354 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 1: so don't you don't have to worry about that. Okay, 355 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 1: Todd got you all right? The people in back, Yeah, 356 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 1: those guys, those guys ugly had big German who he's 357 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 1: a yenter. He likes the likes the gossip about everything 358 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:40,399 Speaker 1: he does. He does, doesn't have anything kind to say. Usually, 359 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:45,359 Speaker 1: no he does about the other guys. But uh, we're 360 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 1: spending so much time you me and the big German. 361 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 1: That's you know, this is when we started. You know, 362 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 1: it could go either way. Yeah, it could. It could 363 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 1: go either best friends or like, you know what it 364 00:18:56,400 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 1: this reaffirms that this one's gotta go. Yes, you'll never 365 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 1: find an Ivy League educated guy from Philly who likes 366 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 1: to talk about stats to replace me. It's not going 367 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:08,719 Speaker 1: to happen. There's nobody like that. Ah. But you know 368 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:17,879 Speaker 1: who is from Philadelphia and does stats Ethan. Oh yeah, 369 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 1: but he doesn't. He does stats better than you way, 370 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 1: but that's not necessarily a positive thing. So yeah, but 371 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 1: he's lately been sending some notes at arn't even stats related. 372 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 1: It drives that Dan, that's crazy. Oh, I know, he's 373 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 1: sending opinion pieces now, and like whoa Ethan is really 374 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 1: kind of stretching this a little bit, Yes, Pa, But 375 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:45,359 Speaker 1: Ethan wouldn't say to Damn Reno, you're still upset about 376 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 1: the super Bowl and you know, Ethan, he wouldn't say 377 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 1: to Joe Montana, you're a system quarterback, all right. He 378 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 1: wouldn't say to Brook Lopez is that a hobby or 379 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 1: a major when you're a poetry major at college? Yeah? 380 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:01,160 Speaker 1: Or all the quarterbacks that we've had at the super 381 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:05,399 Speaker 1: Bowl and uh man that you've had some unbelievably snarky 382 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 1: comments to these. Yes, mc yeah, you don't want to 383 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 1: get Anyone who's smart can hear. That's like you you 384 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 1: can craft it for idiots to surround you. It. It's perfect. 385 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 1: I just need to feel better about my IQ. That's 386 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 1: that's it. Yes, time, it doesn't Ethan uh And I'm 387 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 1: sure what he does is very difficult. But to mcleven's credit, 388 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:24,879 Speaker 1: doesn't he have access to all kinds of programs and 389 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,439 Speaker 1: numbers and things where he can punch certain things in 390 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 1: that mcleovan doesn't necessarily have access to during the course 391 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 1: of a shot Tod, we're just joking about it, like, Okay, 392 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 1: I don't know, but mclove's not sense of like me, 393 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:39,920 Speaker 1: so I probablyouldn't have to do. It's part of the bit. 394 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 1: Like you know, Ethan just does that like mclovin has 395 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 1: no But every once in a while, I feel bad, 396 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:46,639 Speaker 1: like all of a sudden, Ethan's got these great stats 397 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:49,439 Speaker 1: and mclovin couldn't get it in time or something that detail. 398 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 1: And there are there's reasons for that. Cold I was 399 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:55,199 Speaker 1: like a buzz kill just now, yeah, because I mean, 400 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 1: it's just part of This is one of those moments 401 00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 1: where like you're rather me just like kind of walk 402 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 1: out at this point, Paulie, would you see if Scott 403 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 1: Shapiro would come out of retirement and he's got a 404 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 1: lot of spots. He used to book on Mike and 405 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 1: Mike he was there. Oh my god, he's awesome. He 406 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:13,439 Speaker 1: got a big rolodex is what he does. All right, 407 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 1: we'll take a break. 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Sometimes 440 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:09,120 Speaker 1: there is the surprise element of shock involved in something, 441 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 1: but Cleveland, Indians And I remember reading a column that 442 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 1: Terry Pluto wrote back and I think July, where he 443 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 1: said it's probably gonna happen where the Indians are gonna 444 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 1: change their nickname, but probably won't happen till twenty twenty two, 445 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 1: and the great columnists for the Cleveland Plane Dealer, Terry 446 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,159 Speaker 1: Pluto joining us. Why do you think we moved up 447 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 1: the time frame here, Terry? Well, I don't. I don't 448 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:32,920 Speaker 1: necessarily think they're going to be having a new name 449 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:36,639 Speaker 1: in twenty one, whether they decided, you know, be the 450 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:40,880 Speaker 1: Cleveland Blanks or or they're going to stay with the Indians. 451 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:43,199 Speaker 1: I know in July the original plans they have like 452 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:47,119 Speaker 1: one last year with the Indians, you know, sell stuff, 453 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 1: all that kind of thing. And also, as a top 454 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 1: executive told me, Dan, you know this, it's easy to say, Okay, 455 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 1: we're not going to be the Indians. It's hard to say, well, 456 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:58,439 Speaker 1: what are you going to be? I mean, I just 457 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:02,399 Speaker 1: got how about the Walleyes that just came in. You 458 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 1: feel strongly about fish? What about tribe? Oh no, nothing 459 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,880 Speaker 1: to do with the Native American. They want to get 460 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 1: us far away from that is okay. I love tribe. 461 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:17,920 Speaker 1: Fact I often call them my story to tribe far 462 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 1: more than the Indians a long time. I guess the 463 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 1: books old. It's not really a big plug. I wrote 464 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 1: a book called Our Tribe and how basically is how 465 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 1: the Indians were like a second family to my dad 466 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,159 Speaker 1: and I growing up. And he talked about Bob Feller 467 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:35,200 Speaker 1: like you talked about you know, uncle Myron. And that's 468 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,199 Speaker 1: how I think the feeling is when you are in 469 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 1: a you know, we have a close association with the team. 470 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 1: It's kind of like a tribe that goes across. I 471 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:46,679 Speaker 1: love about sports, racial lines, and everything else. But also 472 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,440 Speaker 1: we see what's happening with Washington and the football team 473 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 1: and Daniel Snyder, and okay, I understand what he's doing. 474 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 1: I guess could you see the Cleveland baseball team as 475 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 1: a possibility sort of a stab stop gap or band 476 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:05,920 Speaker 1: aid or kind of ride this out. It feels like 477 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 1: Daniel Steiner's like, all right, you want me to change it? 478 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 1: How about that, I'm going to change it to that. 479 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 1: I mean, I always see the revenue stream here, but Terry, 480 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,359 Speaker 1: Terry that You're like, we'll get a new nickname, And 481 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:20,439 Speaker 1: we got all brand new revenue stream here. Yeah, that 482 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:22,360 Speaker 1: would be the idea a year for now, but I'm 483 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 1: not sure the Cleveland baseball team is going to show 484 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:27,119 Speaker 1: sell a lot of sweatshirts. That could be wrong, but 485 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:30,399 Speaker 1: that doesn't do it for me. I know this in 486 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:33,119 Speaker 1: July when I wrote the story that it was not 487 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:36,119 Speaker 1: going to be till twenty two. The plan at that 488 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:41,160 Speaker 1: point was for them to be the last year with 489 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 1: the Indians in the same same year like they and 490 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 1: they had like kind of one last go around with 491 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:51,919 Speaker 1: Chief Wahoo. So that was the plan. It could change, 492 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 1: you know, things have been really subject to that. But 493 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,400 Speaker 1: the moment Dan, the moment they came out and said 494 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:58,680 Speaker 1: we're thinking about changing the name, I don't know why 495 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,120 Speaker 1: people are surprised it was done. You don't come out 496 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,439 Speaker 1: and say that, say I never mind, we're not going 497 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,880 Speaker 1: to do that. You know, we're gonna we're gonna go back. 498 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:07,640 Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna go back to the old nineteen forty 499 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 1: eight logo, which is really ourpprehensible. No, they're not going 500 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 1: to do that. So it's just a matter of what 501 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 1: And I think that is really their big you know, 502 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:19,400 Speaker 1: discussion area. And on top of it, you know, right now, 503 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 1: the Indians are in a major budget cutting thing. Um. 504 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,200 Speaker 1: It's really funny though. In Cleveland, it's like the Indians 505 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 1: are held to this higher standard than the other franchises. 506 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 1: What the fans, you know, the last I think they've 507 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,400 Speaker 1: last eight years, They've had winning records, gone the playoffs 508 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:39,439 Speaker 1: five times, but they're cheap. But are we looking at 509 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 1: the Braves now, the Chiefs, the black Hawks? Is it 510 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 1: going to be college? Is it high school? Like the 511 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 1: trickle down? Uh? Does it? Does it start with the 512 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:53,639 Speaker 1: Cleveland Indians? I mean that could be the next you know, 513 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 1: I wrote a the first comment I wrote about Chief Wah, 514 00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:59,680 Speaker 1: who was in nineteen ninety six, where I was against 515 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 1: getting rid of I mean I was for changing the 516 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:05,960 Speaker 1: logo and but peeping the name because I've been out 517 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 1: west a lot, essentially at the Wind River Indian Reservation, 518 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 1: which is what it's called, and then back then and 519 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 1: for many years they had a kind of a paper 520 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 1: from USA today called the Indian Country Today, Indian was 521 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 1: not considered that pejorative a term, you know, Redskins always was, 522 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 1: but Indian wasn't. But they did not like the logo, 523 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 1: and so I always kind of base my thing on that. Granted, boy, 524 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 1: there's a real pull. I get it, but in terms 525 00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:33,640 Speaker 1: of just common sense. But now, I mean, truthfully, as 526 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 1: you said, it could go into anything that you know. 527 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,680 Speaker 1: Florida State. I just saw them playing basketball the other 528 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 1: day with that big logo on the floor. I thought 529 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:43,680 Speaker 1: the same thing you did, Dan. I mean, I don't 530 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:48,480 Speaker 1: know what it is, but it's one of those things 531 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 1: I guess because I grew up with it. You know, 532 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 1: I feel for it. But I was really down on 533 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:55,639 Speaker 1: the logo for years. What I wanted them to do 534 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 1: is actually higher, like four or five top of the 535 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 1: Native American artists have then a rendering of it, have 536 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,359 Speaker 1: a big contest, and you know, money get tossed around, 537 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 1: and I think people would have liked that. Now it's 538 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 1: I'll tell you it is wide open. What's your idea? 539 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 1: What do you want to name him? You're from Dayton, right, 540 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:17,160 Speaker 1: you're from Ohio. Oh I don't know the Cleveland Buckeyes. Yeah, 541 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,440 Speaker 1: I mean that was that was an ego league team. Yeah, 542 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 1: that's not bad. Some people don't like because because it 543 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 1: follows with Ohio State. You know your marketing brand there. Um, 544 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 1: I don't like the Spiders. Everybody wants the Spiders. That's 545 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 1: that's the big thing. They have a lobbying group going, 546 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 1: you know the Cleveland Spiders, which the last time they 547 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 1: were the Spiders, they were just awful. So that's back 548 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 1: in eighteen ninety nine Cleveland Spiders that covered them. They 549 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 1: really had some nice guys, but they just couldn't play, 550 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 1: you know, they really but it was really bad. At 551 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 1: the end. They actually did bring in this Bill hoop 552 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 1: one they said he could pitch because they were running 553 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 1: out of pitchers. They're on the road somewhere, and found 554 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,479 Speaker 1: out he pitched like a Bellhopum. How big of an 555 00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:02,479 Speaker 1: issue is this locally? Big? It's a big deal because 556 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 1: a lot of fans I'm sure don't want change, Yes, 557 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 1: but are they a vocal group? Is it a large 558 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 1: group that doesn't doesn't want it? Yeah? How much is 559 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 1: it going to hurt attendance or whatever? I don't know. 560 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 1: But in terms of first of all, it strikes me 561 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,960 Speaker 1: that most of the fans of the baseball team tend 562 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 1: to be older, and I think some of the demographists 563 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 1: have shown that other place. So one, they're used to 564 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:31,959 Speaker 1: what you know, you and our little order were used 565 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:35,240 Speaker 1: to what we're used to and change sometimes doesn't do 566 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 1: it for us. And Thirdly, like a lot of them, 567 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 1: like the tribe or that, I think they they weren't 568 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 1: thrilled about the logo, but the name thing is really 569 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 1: kind of rock them, and they feel that it's being pressured, 570 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 1: you know, from uh Manford and the league office to 571 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 1: everything that's going on in the world right now, and 572 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 1: now they wanted to take away the team's name and 573 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 1: call it you know most Yeah, but I go back 574 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 1: to the Chicago Blackhawks. I think it's maybe the finest 575 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 1: looking like it's it's gorgeous. That logo is beautiful, and 576 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 1: if you do it in conjunction, I agree with you. 577 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 1: If I look at the Braves and the Indians, those 578 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 1: those are that's a threatening looking caricature. I mean, it's 579 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,280 Speaker 1: it's not flattering at all. If I was Native American, 580 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 1: and I think if you do it in a regal 581 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 1: way in conjunction with some Native American artists, then you 582 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 1: probably could have circumvented this a long time ago, terry hopefully, 583 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 1: although I mean some people, I mean, all depends where 584 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 1: we are politically on stuff. But I'm with you, Dan, 585 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 1: and I always thought too that hey, get some money 586 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 1: involved here. As I said, do you Apple's renderings of that? 587 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 1: And you know, say the guy that wanted is from 588 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 1: the Lakota by the way, That's one of the things 589 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 1: when you're out lest you discover that the identity is 590 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 1: your tribe, you know, the arapplehol code of the Shawnee 591 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 1: whatever that you know, that tribe gets a piece of 592 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 1: the action from whoever won this. I just think it 593 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 1: could have been fun, but they just decided that's it 594 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 1: in the middle of this year. The other thing they 595 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 1: were worried about, and the Washington had this was a 596 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 1: lot of the corporate sponsors, remember, went after them. And 597 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 1: it's not why Cleveland's got a ton of corporate sponsors 598 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 1: of Fortune five companies to begin with. And I think 599 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 1: they didn't want their sponsors stealing a lot of pressure 600 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 1: to push towards this, so they wanted to get out 601 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 1: in front of it. Yeah, but you think this year 602 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 1: last year enjoying the artist formerly known as the Cleveland Indians. Yes, 603 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 1: once they decided to make ing mc cleveland blank, which 604 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 1: I hope they don't do that. Terry, good to talk 605 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 1: to you has always keep starting it up. We appreciate 606 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 1: your time as always. Thank you, Dan, that's Terry Pluto, 607 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:59,479 Speaker 1: columnists for the Cleveland Plane Dealer. Yeah. I remember reading 608 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 1: about the warning signs, and I go back to this 609 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:05,480 Speaker 1: article and it's July of this year, and you know, 610 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 1: Terry said it probably won't happen till twenty twenty two. 611 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 1: But I love the Blackhawks logo. I think it's the 612 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:19,560 Speaker 1: finest logo in all of sports. I think it looks sharp, classy, regal. 613 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 1: But I'm not Native American, and the only insight I 614 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:31,680 Speaker 1: have is a nephew who used to work delivering products 615 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 1: to a reservation in North Dakota. And I remember he 616 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 1: just said, they don't they don't care about the Redskin's name. 617 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 1: Like they have alcoholism, they have drug abuse. They'd like 618 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:46,880 Speaker 1: to get computers, like they just want to have a 619 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 1: life running water electricity. They're not worried like we think, 620 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, they're gonna be angry or they gotta 621 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 1: have an opinion. And I remember my nephew said, I said, 622 00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,880 Speaker 1: would you just ask, just to ask them how they 623 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:06,240 Speaker 1: feel about these nicknames. You know that we sort of 624 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 1: embrace Native Americans while we had genocide with Native Americans, Like, hey, 625 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:15,800 Speaker 1: we sort of like you and I always I wondered, 626 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:20,200 Speaker 1: do they care. I understand the Redskins. I understand how 627 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 1: offensive that would be to them, absolutely and should be. 628 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:26,840 Speaker 1: I mean, we should understand that. But the Blackhawks logo 629 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:30,720 Speaker 1: is spectacular. But I looked at the Braves logo and 630 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:34,840 Speaker 1: the Indians logo like those aren't Those are caricatures? I 631 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:38,440 Speaker 1: mean it is offensive, it's embarrassing. Oh, we want it. 632 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 1: We got to keep it. It's tradition. If I'm Cleveland, 633 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 1: I might want to get rid of my past, the 634 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 1: way we played baseball. Do the Braves follow a suit 635 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:54,280 Speaker 1: kans City Chiefs follow suit? Probably not, but you know, 636 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 1: maybe colleges, maybe you'll see this with high schools, we 637 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:02,720 Speaker 1: see that. Yeah. In eighteen eighty seven, they were called 638 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,440 Speaker 1: the Cleveland Forest Cities, and then they wanted a nickname, 639 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 1: and they went by the Cleveland Blues for one season. 640 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,279 Speaker 1: Then they changed their uniforms to the Cleveland Indians in 641 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:13,279 Speaker 1: eighteen eighty nine. And a bunch of media people were 642 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:14,800 Speaker 1: out there, and the team executive was out there, and 643 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 1: the uniforms were black and gray, very dark, kind of 644 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 1: menacing looking. And there's a couple of tall, skinny players 645 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,279 Speaker 1: standing there and this team exactly a joke to the 646 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:24,239 Speaker 1: media the team should be called the Spiders because of 647 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 1: how gangly these players looked. The name stuck the next 648 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,400 Speaker 1: day in the newspaper, and that's how the name Spiders 649 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:32,080 Speaker 1: came along. They were the Spiders from eighteen eighty nine 650 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:36,880 Speaker 1: to eighteen ninety eight. Spiders would be good. I don't know. 651 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:39,960 Speaker 1: I you know, when it gets to these nicknames and 652 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:42,279 Speaker 1: why did you come up with that nickname and what's 653 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 1: the history behind it? And it's too late I think 654 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 1: to probably say to Native American artists, let's have a 655 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:51,720 Speaker 1: collaborative effort. But how do you do a collaborative effort, 656 00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:54,719 Speaker 1: you know, without somebody making it about you know, the 657 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:58,200 Speaker 1: Apache or the Lakota or Shawnee or whatever it might be, 658 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:02,760 Speaker 1: unless there's a tribe that is indigenous to that area 659 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,120 Speaker 1: that you're going to be able to tap into. And 660 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:09,879 Speaker 1: but I don't know. Um. And it's not that I, oh, 661 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:13,759 Speaker 1: you're being politically correct. No, I'm just I'm just being 662 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,279 Speaker 1: a realist about this. I'm adding common sense to this. 663 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:20,719 Speaker 1: It's offensive looking, it's all. The logo is offensive. I'll 664 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:25,280 Speaker 1: never complain about the black Hawks logo. It's it's beautiful. 665 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:30,319 Speaker 1: But the black Hawks tribe, I don't I'm assuming that 666 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,920 Speaker 1: they're fine with it. You Florida State, I think worked 667 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:39,080 Speaker 1: with the Seminal tribe. But it's the logo. It's a 668 00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:44,680 Speaker 1: caricature in Cleveland, in Atlanta, yes, time. But if you're 669 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:46,600 Speaker 1: the Spiders and things don't go well, then you're the 670 00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,279 Speaker 1: itsy bitsy Spiders, or your team is caught in a web, 671 00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:51,400 Speaker 1: if you're in a nine game losing streak. It just 672 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,640 Speaker 1: lends itself to me some more negative things, except for 673 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,120 Speaker 1: like the black Widow Spider where you're killing everybody. Just 674 00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,920 Speaker 1: I don't know. I know Richmond does the Spiders. I 675 00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:01,640 Speaker 1: don't know. It doesn't do much for me. Back to 676 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:03,960 Speaker 1: you in the studio, what do you think about that? 677 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:06,480 Speaker 1: You know what a logo that like lends it up 678 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:08,800 Speaker 1: to more negative things that you could put in headlines 679 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:13,360 Speaker 1: and stuff. Now, your timing is impeccable and they were 680 00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:15,759 Speaker 1: totally very bad in eighteen ninety nine, and that just 681 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,120 Speaker 1: goes to show you, you think. On some sports radio 682 00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:20,680 Speaker 1: show in eighteen ninety four, some guy said that, like, 683 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:22,719 Speaker 1: why are we called the Spiders is a dumb name? 684 00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,160 Speaker 1: It's very negative. Hey, they're gonna be making fun of us. 685 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:28,279 Speaker 1: You know, the itsy bitsy spider went up. We're all 686 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:30,879 Speaker 1: gangly looking it. Yeah, we're putting a web and we're 687 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,440 Speaker 1: itsy bitsy when we're no good and then there's a 688 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,640 Speaker 1: rain delay down came the rain and washed the spiders on. 689 00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,160 Speaker 1: Thanks for bringing it home for all. We'll take a break. 690 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,160 Speaker 1: Last call for phone calls and maybe Todd says something 691 00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:45,279 Speaker 1: stupid as right after this. Thanks for listening to The 692 00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:48,080 Speaker 1: Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to catch us live 693 00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:50,919 Speaker 1: every weekday morning nine until noon eastern six to nine 694 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,759 Speaker 1: Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, and you can find us 695 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:57,959 Speaker 1: on the iHeartRadio app at FSR or stream us live 696 00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:02,280 Speaker 1: on the Peacock app. Watching the documentary on the BGS 697 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:06,879 Speaker 1: on HBO. Very good, Very good. People don't realize how 698 00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:10,520 Speaker 1: big the BGS were. They had a run. Now, they 699 00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:13,879 Speaker 1: had a couple of different periods, but they had they 700 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:17,160 Speaker 1: had a run where they were the big deal when 701 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:19,320 Speaker 1: it came to music. And then all of a sudden 702 00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:23,719 Speaker 1: people went, we hate disco, and you know, all of 703 00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:27,880 Speaker 1: a sudden, grunge came in and kicked kicked disco to 704 00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:31,920 Speaker 1: the curb big time. But it's uh, it's so far. 705 00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,239 Speaker 1: I'm halfway through it, but it's really well done. It's 706 00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:39,000 Speaker 1: on HBO. The BG's yeah point. When the movie sat 707 00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:40,960 Speaker 1: My Fever came out, it felt like they were the 708 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:44,239 Speaker 1: biggest thing in the world. Yeah, because it's such a 709 00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:48,440 Speaker 1: great soundtrack and uh, you know Travolta was so great 710 00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:50,439 Speaker 1: in that movie. By the way, that is not a 711 00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:55,000 Speaker 1: family movie. Just a reminder that my wife, it feels 712 00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:58,360 Speaker 1: like every couple of years I have three daughters, and 713 00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:00,920 Speaker 1: then she'll say to one of my one of the daughters, hey, 714 00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:03,040 Speaker 1: we should watch Saturay Night Fever. They haven't watched it, 715 00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:06,000 Speaker 1: and we've done this three times now, and then my 716 00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:08,400 Speaker 1: wife will go, oh, I forgot. It's not a family movie. 717 00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:12,200 Speaker 1: I go, hon, this is the third time you've done it. 718 00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:14,920 Speaker 1: It's not. Yes, boy, since you brought it up. I'dn't 719 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,520 Speaker 1: want to ask the movie Scrooge, the Christmas movie with 720 00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:20,279 Speaker 1: Bill Murray, what is the age for a kid to 721 00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:24,080 Speaker 1: watch that movie? My daughter is almost twelve, and she's like, oh, dad, 722 00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,640 Speaker 1: Bill Murray, Scrooge, that looks like fun. I don't think so, 723 00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:30,640 Speaker 1: but I'm not sure. I've never watched it. Whoa, Yeah, 724 00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,040 Speaker 1: I never watched it. I just I don't know. I 725 00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:36,360 Speaker 1: wasn't interested in Jim Carrey when he did his U 726 00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:40,840 Speaker 1: didn he do Scrooge? What was Jim Carrey's Christmas movie 727 00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:45,160 Speaker 1: with Ron Howard Doctor SEUs, Doctor SEUs? Yeah, Grinch? Did 728 00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:47,400 Speaker 1: you do the Grinch too? Yeah? I didn't. I didn't. 729 00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:50,040 Speaker 1: I didn't watch it. I just I wasn't interested. You know. 730 00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:53,000 Speaker 1: I watched movies like A Christmas Story with Ralphie Yes Seaton. 731 00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:57,640 Speaker 1: So I'm seeing for Scrooge right that people rated as 732 00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:01,040 Speaker 1: like a twelve plus movie, which to me usually passes 733 00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:03,000 Speaker 1: like even though my son's ten. I'm like, oh, yeah, 734 00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,600 Speaker 1: you're good, twelve ten. What's the big deal, right, except that? 735 00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:08,080 Speaker 1: So we just had this weekend. I put in another 736 00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:10,360 Speaker 1: movie that was like, oh, it's like, you know, anyone 737 00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:12,719 Speaker 1: twelve or thirteen up. So I'm like, oh, this is good. 738 00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:16,640 Speaker 1: He could totally watch it wrong, like other people's ideas 739 00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:19,799 Speaker 1: of what's acceptable for a twelve year old kid. I 740 00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:22,399 Speaker 1: was like, oh, and my wife was just looking at 741 00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:24,960 Speaker 1: me while like they're making all of these references about 742 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:30,279 Speaker 1: graphic things in the movie, and like I would just 743 00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:33,319 Speaker 1: feel the daggers, the eyes staring at me, and I'm like, 744 00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:36,360 Speaker 1: I didn't know. Look, I thought it was okay. I 745 00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:38,640 Speaker 1: do that with my wife when you know, they were 746 00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:41,839 Speaker 1: watching Saturday Night Fever. And then I had to remind her. 747 00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:44,600 Speaker 1: I said, you know, it's not I don't think it's appropriate. 748 00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:47,400 Speaker 1: Oh you know, she won't watch it, blah blah, you 749 00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:51,399 Speaker 1: know she loves the BG's like, I know this, it's 750 00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:55,000 Speaker 1: okay whatever, And then like a half hour later, my 751 00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,440 Speaker 1: wife will come into the other room show you're right. 752 00:39:57,680 --> 00:39:59,680 Speaker 1: I forgot all about that scene. Yes, dad, My dad 753 00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:01,440 Speaker 1: took my brother and I think we were eight and ten, 754 00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:03,960 Speaker 1: maybe we were nine and eleven, and I guess there's 755 00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:05,880 Speaker 1: some like topless dances scene and that was one of 756 00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:08,839 Speaker 1: many reasons why we had no business being in that theater. Oh, 757 00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:10,560 Speaker 1: there are a couple of scenes. There's a scene in 758 00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:14,400 Speaker 1: the car, and yeah, they're colorful language there. But Travolta 759 00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:18,880 Speaker 1: is God, he's so good in that movie. You forget. 760 00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:24,200 Speaker 1: There are times like Travolta was, you know, just spectacular, 761 00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:27,560 Speaker 1: and then you know Tarantino gives you that resurgence in 762 00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:33,520 Speaker 1: pulp fiction. But you know, Travolta Saturday Night Fever, that's 763 00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:37,200 Speaker 1: big deal. Yeah, just before we move on, I'm untoppable 764 00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:39,480 Speaker 1: on this topic. My dad at age ten, my mom said, 765 00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:41,480 Speaker 1: take the kid to a movie. There was one movie 766 00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:44,160 Speaker 1: at the theater and Calumet City, Illinois, and it was 767 00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:49,279 Speaker 1: it was Midnight Express. Midnight Express. You could look it up. 768 00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:51,839 Speaker 1: I was ten and a half years old and saw 769 00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:55,799 Speaker 1: Midnight Express in its entirety. That that's bad. Parents. Yeah, 770 00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:59,680 Speaker 1: there's a couple of scenes in there too, a couple 771 00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:03,960 Speaker 1: of in there. She's pressed up against the glass. Yeah, 772 00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,960 Speaker 1: there's a couple of scenes in there. This dangs sports history. 773 00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:10,959 Speaker 1: You got. Nineteen fifteen, Jack Johnson became the first black 774 00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:14,160 Speaker 1: World or heavyweight champion. Nineteen fifty two, the Brooklyn Dodgers 775 00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:17,520 Speaker 1: signed a picture Sandy KOFAXI We're done all right. Nineteen 776 00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:21,280 Speaker 1: eighty four, Howard Cosell retired from NFL's up Monday Night Football. 777 00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,800 Speaker 1: Jeff and Detroit, Hi, Jeff Best the words of the weekend. 778 00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:28,640 Speaker 1: Hey Dan, I am a cheese lover. I love cheese. 779 00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:31,360 Speaker 1: Wisconsin happens to be the home of the biggest cheese 780 00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:33,799 Speaker 1: of them all. Aaron Rodgers And I'm not paying off 781 00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:36,960 Speaker 1: a bet or talking about some pump that's in chat Row. 782 00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:40,520 Speaker 1: I'm coming from the heart on this one. So yeah, 783 00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:42,960 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers is the best. Well, I need to wash 784 00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:45,840 Speaker 1: my mouth out now. Best the worst of the weekend. 785 00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:50,600 Speaker 1: My best is going to be Portage, Michigan getting the 786 00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:54,240 Speaker 1: vaccine out and making things hopefully get back to normal 787 00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:56,319 Speaker 1: so I can come up to the man case and 788 00:41:56,400 --> 00:42:00,200 Speaker 1: figure out what spatch cock chicken taste like. You know 789 00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:02,160 Speaker 1: what I'm saying that that's what I want. Oh, and 790 00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:04,759 Speaker 1: to meet you guys in person. My worst of the 791 00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:10,160 Speaker 1: weekend is gonna be the Minnesota Vikings man IRV Smith Junior. 792 00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:13,560 Speaker 1: He just am I get off my long guy, because 793 00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:16,880 Speaker 1: if you sport touchdown and you're still don't by nine, 794 00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:19,920 Speaker 1: I'm not celebrating. He's on the sideline high five and 795 00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:23,560 Speaker 1: stuff and you're still lost broke. Come on, huh, thank you, Jeff. 796 00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:26,040 Speaker 1: Let's go around the room. What we learned of the program? 797 00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:28,439 Speaker 1: Find a results of the pull question m clubing. Bring 798 00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:31,280 Speaker 1: up those cults jerseys for Carson Wentz. Thirty one percent 799 00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:34,399 Speaker 1: say there for thirty percent say Philly Todd, what did 800 00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:36,560 Speaker 1: you learn on today's program? Peter King says Doug Pearson 801 00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:38,520 Speaker 1: should not be allowed in the team plaint Arizona if 802 00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:40,680 Speaker 1: he does not announce Jalen Hurts as the starting QB 803 00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:43,840 Speaker 1: Sunday mc lovin. Terry Pluto says he covered the Cleveland 804 00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:47,319 Speaker 1: Spiders in the eighteen nineties. Set An no counter. At 805 00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:49,120 Speaker 1: some point, We're going to figure out where Peter King 806 00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:53,000 Speaker 1: works these days. Yeah, I think it's football morning in America, Pauli, 807 00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:56,120 Speaker 1: what'd you learn today? A wreath of Franklin doesn't crush 808 00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:59,600 Speaker 1: at this Christmas tree shop? No, it doesn't. But with 809 00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:03,360 Speaker 1: a spoon did Toddwood and I learned today? Cleveland baseball 810 00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:06,560 Speaker 1: team's dates have been called the Indians are numbered. 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