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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio. All right, Welcome to the Herd. I

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Speaker 1: am your host, Chris Brusard along with my man Jason

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Speaker 1: McIntire also known as Jay mackin. We are in for

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Speaker 1: Colin Cowherd. Obviously he is off. We hope he has

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Speaker 1: a wonderful weekend, as do we hope for you. But

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Speaker 1: me welcome in my man Jason McIntire, j mack What up, brother,

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Speaker 1: I'm great, Chris. I am great, very excited to be

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Speaker 1: hosting with you. It's in a few years since we

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Speaker 1: show in July. This one will be a little NBA,

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Speaker 1: a little NFL, and of course, as usual, Chrispers, Bruce

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Speaker 1: Hard and I will agree on everything because we are

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Speaker 1: in lockstep in life and in sports as well. I

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Speaker 1: don't know how that sounds to me. I gotta let

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Speaker 1: We got e from Salim joining us in about twenty minutes.

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Speaker 1: He is always great, no, not just NFL. Don't be

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Speaker 1: fooled that he was, you know, a former NFL player.

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Speaker 1: He also knows this hoop. So we'll talk about him

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Speaker 1: real story about this, It essentially takes Phoenix out of

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Speaker 1: Kevin Durant averaged are you ready for this? Fifty five

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Speaker 1: it's easier for you to do your thing. So Kade

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Speaker 1: was Kevin Durant twenty seven. He's absolutely not. He's played

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Speaker 1: the Warriors did have stars. Clay Thompson was a star.

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Speaker 1: ago they talked a about a Kevin Durant for Lebron

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Speaker 1: the thing you're getting getting Kevin freaking Durant. Now, obviously

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Speaker 1: there's one more potential stumbling block. What's that Russell Westbrook. Oh,

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Speaker 1: I mean it would only be for a year, but

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Speaker 1: would Kad sign off on it? Because I'm gonna be

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Speaker 1: honest with you. I Westbrook obviously has his issues, but

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Speaker 1: if there's a player that knows how to play off

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Speaker 1: of him, it is Kevin Durant. And that was Jay Mack.

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Speaker 1: They didn't win a championship, but that was a very,

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Speaker 1: very very good team when they were together. I know

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Speaker 1: neither of them were as young as they used to be,

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Speaker 1: of course, but the question is what Katie signed off

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Speaker 1: on that, even for a year. But if you're the

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Speaker 1: Lakers and you really want to do this deal, and

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Speaker 1: again I don't think it happens. I think the Lakers

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Speaker 1: I just don't think they do that to Lebron. I

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Speaker 1: also think, even though they don't look like they're in

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Speaker 1: position to win next year, they want to have him

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Speaker 1: break Kareem's record in a Lakers jersey. But to Robert

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00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:52,600
Speaker 1: Ory's point, Lebron does not have a no trade clause,

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Speaker 1: and so that's where it becomes und is that's something

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Speaker 1: they think about. Let me say this, as much as

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Speaker 1: Lebron doesn't want to go, and I get it, I

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Speaker 1: understand it, he would have a better chance of winning

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Speaker 1: another championship in Brooklyn. J Man. Brooklyn would be nice.

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00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:21,919
Speaker 1: The roster is built around the type of roster that

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Speaker 1: Lebron James needs. You got shooters, Seth Curry, Joe Harris, Kyrie, Irving,

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Speaker 1: Ben Simmons. Ben Simmons can can go down to the

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Speaker 1: dunker spot. That's what it all I need from him.

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Speaker 1: I don't see him Kyrie. Kyrie, let me just be

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Speaker 1: Kyrie obviously is a wild card no matter who he's

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Speaker 1: playing with. But I do think Lebron is built to

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Speaker 1: get the best out of Kyrie. We've seen it the

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Speaker 1: only time Kyrie's really won. It's not guaranteed, because you

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Speaker 1: never know with Kyrie. But the only time Kyrie has

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Speaker 1: wanted a big level was with Lebron. And here's the

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00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 1: other thing, Jay Mack. Kyrie is smart enough to know. Please, no,

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00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,399
Speaker 1: he's smart enough to know, and I've been told this

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00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 1: by somebody's talk to him, that he has got to

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Speaker 1: be on his best behavior next week and wants if

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Speaker 1: he wants to resurrect his image and get the bag,

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Speaker 1: at least have a shot at getting the back. And

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Speaker 1: I'm not guaranteed at least have a shot at getting

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Speaker 1: the bag next summer. That he has to not only

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Speaker 1: play well, which we know he will when he plays,

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Speaker 1: but he has to show up. He has to not

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Speaker 1: take hiatuses. He has to be on time, he has

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Speaker 1: to have a good attitude. He has to be a

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Speaker 1: good teammate. I think he can do that with Lebron

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Speaker 1: and Chris. You seemingly have forgotten that. In twenty seventeen

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00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,119
Speaker 1: or twenty eighteen, whatever it was, Tyler was coaching the

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Speaker 1: Calves and he was telling Kyrie what to do, and

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Speaker 1: Kyrie's like, it's Lebron's team, and he throws the ball

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Speaker 1: at him and walks out of project. But he's had

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Speaker 1: a change of heart. Really think he had a change

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Speaker 1: of Hearty, he's been as a knucklehead in Boston, and

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00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,440
Speaker 1: he was a knucklehead in Brooklyn, and he treated Steve

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00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 1: Nash like garbage and now he wants and those he

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00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 1: could have grown up. A tiger doesn't change his stripes.

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00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,640
Speaker 1: This is who he is. Kyrie Irving is a crazy

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00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,440
Speaker 1: person who doesn't want to work well with anybody. He's

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00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 1: the kid who in third grade gets that does not

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Speaker 1: play well with others on his report card. That's who

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Speaker 1: Kyrie Irving is. If he didn't play well with others,

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Speaker 1: he wouldn't have a championship, all right, Number one, Number two.

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00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 1: He's clearly had a change of heart, because why he's

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Speaker 1: even considering playing with Lebron again and again. I understand

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00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 1: he's a he's still a wild card even with Lebron.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying, you can't sit here and tell me

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Speaker 1: definitively with all of the reasons he has to behave

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Speaker 1: that he absolutely would not too many question marks. Ben Simmons,

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Speaker 1: Kyrie Irving, that's way too much. Lebron has as is

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Speaker 1: his head chance at a ring? What about it bad

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00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,440
Speaker 1: this year? Who he has no chance in a ring?

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00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 1: In LA this Lebron. Why because they wanted two years

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00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 1: ago and they can't do it again? Oh really when

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00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,480
Speaker 1: us was Russell Westberg? Gonna listen, I just read a

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00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 1: report that San Antonio can be the facilitator in taking

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00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,919
Speaker 1: get back to me right now. They have no chance,

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00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 1: no chance. The Lakers have no chance. Rob and and Ryan.

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00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 1: Clip that off and put it up Christ chance. That

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00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 1: is nonsense. Oh my god, no chance for Lebron. Lebron's

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00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 1: gonna be thirty eight years old in December. My man Michael,

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00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 1: he was at an all NBA level himself. He was

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00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:37,879
Speaker 1: an All NBA player this season. Stop it stop. There's

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00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 1: a lot of All NBA players, not Donovan Mitchell. Oh,

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Speaker 1: I went there. That's all you got. Never I am

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00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,239
Speaker 1: a Knicks fan. I like Mitchell and you ripping down him? Hey,

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Speaker 1: hey guy, clip that just the thing that Hey, it's

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Speaker 1: get your podcast. It's been a rough few weeks for

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, and let me recap. And you kind of

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Speaker 1: dismissed it as what a network a TV show pole

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Speaker 1: or what was it? Was that wrong? I'm about this, Yes,

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Speaker 1: you were wrong, because a TV show poll would presumably

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Speaker 1: be a pole of fans, a pole maybe of media,

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Speaker 1: a pole of reporters from that network. This was not that.

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Speaker 1: This was a pole of fifty plus executives in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: coaches in the NFL, scouts and players in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson's peers, and they did not have him in

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Speaker 1: the top ten of quarterbacks. All right, I agree with you,

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Speaker 1: Travesty should have been ahead of Dak Prescott, should have

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Speaker 1: been ahead of Deshaun Watson, who we have haven't seen

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Speaker 1: on the football field in over a year. All right,

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Speaker 1: But there was that, And then I was stunned to

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Speaker 1: see Lamar Jackson get challenged on Twitter the way he

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Speaker 1: did from Bernard Pilot. Now, Bernard Pilot was no Hall

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Speaker 1: of Famer pro bowler, he was a hard hitter. Yeah,

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00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 1: he was a hard hitter, and he was a good player.

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Speaker 1: He started for the Ravens when they won the Super Bowl.

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00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 1: So he's not some chump, right, But still I was

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Speaker 1: surprised because usually players and even former players defend Lamar Jackson,

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00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 1: even if inside they may feel like, Okay, he does

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00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 1: have his deficiencies this and that, people go out of

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00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 1: their way to praise him, all right and defend him.

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Speaker 1: And so for Bernard Powler to go at it, it

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Speaker 1: was a bit surprising for me to me. And what

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00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 1: he said, jay Mack was that he's got to be

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Speaker 1: better thrown from the pocket. And you know, he didn't

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Speaker 1: say it the right way, but it was something Lamar

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00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 1: could learn. He was like, why everybody understands the way

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00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 1: he plays is not sustainable just because of age or

548
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 1: potentially injury, and so they need to be talking about

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00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 1: him staying in the pocket and being more of a

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Speaker 1: quote unquote traditional quarterback. And he then throughout you mentioned

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Speaker 1: earlier when we're talking to eat him, they got to

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00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 1: get him some top flight receivers. Well, they've tried, and

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00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 1: I get it, they haven't gone. They haven't been able

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00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 1: to get a Tyreek Hill in the building or DeAndre

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00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 1: Hopkins listen to him. But they have reached out to

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Speaker 1: good receivers and they've been turned down. Okay, because I'm

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Speaker 1: with you. Stefan Diggs worked wonders for Josh Allen. DeAndre

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00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 1: Hopkins worked wonders for Kyler Murray, so you are right

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Speaker 1: in that they need to get this young quarterback a

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00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 1: great receiver. They went after t Y Hilton, he turned

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00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 1: down more money. Okay, Okay, he's not all pro, but

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00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 1: still the fact that makes it worse that you got

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Speaker 1: average receivers, good receivers saying thanks, but no thanks, I'll

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Speaker 1: take less money to go to Indianapolis and play with

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Speaker 1: Carson wentz d. You had Kenny Golladay choosing the Giants.

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Speaker 1: Now I know they've offered him more money, but the

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Speaker 1: Giants and Daniel Jones over Baltimore. You had you had

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Speaker 1: choosing Daniel Jones over Lamar Jackson. Like he's choosing New

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Speaker 1: York City and a lot of money over Baltimore. And

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Speaker 1: I don't know if Baltimore offered him, Like, okay, take that.

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Speaker 1: Take Kenny golla Day out. I don't necessarily agree with you,

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Speaker 1: but take him out. Because they did offer you more money.

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Speaker 1: T ry Hilton turned down more money, uh juju Smith

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Speaker 1: Schuster turned down more money from Baltimore to stay with

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Speaker 1: an aged Ben Roethlisberger. And then Hollywood Brown his boy,

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Speaker 1: Lamar's boy left to go to Arizona wanted to trade.

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Speaker 1: And so this is my this is my question because

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Speaker 1: I am a Lamar fan, but I'm also objective, and

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Speaker 1: this is what I want to ask you, is the

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Speaker 1: shine when you look at all this stuff? Somebody challenging

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Speaker 1: him on Twitter? Players, well not somebody, I mean former

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Speaker 1: a former Ravens Super Bowl champion. What did damn do? Oh?

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Speaker 1: So we just gonna poop? How many guys challenge you

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Speaker 1: on Twitter a day? Do you care this? This is

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Speaker 1: a football player or ex football That's all I'm saying.

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00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 1: Usually they've defended him. Don't compare an ex professional athlete

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00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 1: to Joe Schmo who works as an office manager. All Right,

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00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 1: it's not the same when you're talking about sports. Let's

589
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 1: just keep it real. And you got these receivers they

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00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 1: didn't want to play there, and you've got him not

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Speaker 1: being ranked in the top ten. What are your thoughts

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00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 1: on this? Jay mcnon as some of the shine or

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Speaker 1: the shine come off of Acon Jackson. Absolutely none. That is,

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Speaker 1: the shine is not off. If anything, he's ascending. The

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Speaker 1: guy's twenty four years old. Let me just remind the

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Speaker 1: unwashed masses out there, the guys who come at me

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Speaker 1: on social media. Oh, Lamar Jackson stinks. He can't be

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Speaker 1: a running quarterback. I just want to note to everybody,

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson started halfway through his rookie year, end up

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Speaker 1: getting the team to the playoffs. Second year, was the

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Speaker 1: MVP of the league, shout out week sixteen. Third year

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Speaker 1: sat out week sixteen. And the only injury he's gotten

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Speaker 1: for a quarterback who runs a loop more than Josh Allen.

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Speaker 1: By the way, Lamar Jackson has never been injured running

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Speaker 1: the football. The one injury he suffered last year with

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Speaker 1: the ankle in the pocket, he was trying, you know,

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00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:10,720
Speaker 1: he was trying to elude a defender because his offensive

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00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 1: line was garbage. He took the most sacks last year

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Speaker 1: because because of the injuries, and that's how he suffered

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Speaker 1: the ankle injury. So I know he looks like he

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Speaker 1: could suffer a lot of injuries because he runs, but

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00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,959
Speaker 1: so does Josh Allen. So did Russell Wilson. These guys

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00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,359
Speaker 1: are smart. They know how to elude defenders and go

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Speaker 1: down early. Lamar Jackson's running ability is not a hindrance.

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Speaker 1: If anything, it's a positive. I don't think I would

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Speaker 1: offer him Deshaun Watson fully guaranteed contract. I don't think

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Speaker 1: he gets Josh Allen money. I don't think he gets

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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes money. But I definitely think, well, he hasn't accomplished.

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Speaker 1: He hasn't accomplished, But that's it doesn't matter. Well, that

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Speaker 1: hadn't accomplished, jack and he became the highest bade quarterback ever,

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Speaker 1: and it's bad business. And now they're sitting on the

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Speaker 1: most expensive backup in NFL. Well, that that's bad what

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Speaker 1: you've done. Okay, if you're in top level quarterback and

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Speaker 1: your time is now, you generally become the highest Deshaun

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Speaker 1: Watson just got the worst quarterback contract or best defending

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Speaker 1: how you look at it, in the market morons, that's

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Speaker 1: what they can take. Now I'm looking Josh Allen deserves

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Speaker 1: the money. Josh Allen has done a lot. He's gotten

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Speaker 1: the bills too. Hesn't done as much as uh Lamar Jackson.

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Speaker 1: The Buffalo Bills had been to the conference championship. The

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills have been to the playoffs. Josh Allen's an

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Speaker 1: MVP contender. He's right here with Lamar Allen, Lamar Jackson,

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Speaker 1: and Chris Have you looked at them? I'm aware of that.

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00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 1: Have you looked at the odds? The Bills are the

635
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 1: Super Bowl favorites. Josh Allen is the MVP favorite. It's undeniable.

636
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:45,959
Speaker 1: So he's worth more than Lamar Jackson. Number two. He's

637
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 1: not Patrick Mahomes. We don't even need to go into that.

638
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott is the guy who really uh makes my

639
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,880
Speaker 1: blood bubble. This guy has the same amount of playoff

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00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,399
Speaker 1: wins as Lamar. He has no MVP to his name.

641
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 1: And let's be realistic, Dak Prescott is a good, not

642
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 1: great quarterback. Lamar Jackson if you look at the advanced

643
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 1: metrics which I used to gamble, and Lamar Jackson is

644
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 1: a top ten quarterback undeniably. This is not even up

645
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 1: for discussion. I don't care if you don't like the

646
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 1: cut of his jib when he's throwing the ball in

647
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:17,799
Speaker 1: the pocket. The guy's a sixty six percent completion guy.

648
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 1: As an MVP sixty four, then sixty four. He's a

649
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 1: good pocket passer. Is he great? Now? He's not Patrick Mahomes.

650
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 1: He's never gonna be. But good luck trying to low

651
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:30,880
Speaker 1: ball this guy and then find another quarterback after Lamar Jackson.

652
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:32,919
Speaker 1: I think you need to pay him at least Dak

653
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,759
Speaker 1: Prescott money. I would say more, a little more than Dak,

654
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 1: and then you go on with your life and you

655
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 1: go back to being, you know, one of the five

656
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 1: best teams in the in the AFC and in the

657
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Hunt. Well, look, I agree with some of

658
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 1: what you said. I do think Lamar Jackson should have

659
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 1: been on that top ten list. I think he has

660
00:37:52,120 --> 00:38:00,399
Speaker 1: been great. But when you say he's ascending, you're just wrong. Now,

661
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 1: hopefully he ascends this year, but the last two years

662
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:09,360
Speaker 1: since he won his MVP, he has declined in essentially

663
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 1: every category, passing and rushing the football. And here this

664
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:19,279
Speaker 1: is why I'm saying to Lamar, I hope he hears me.

665
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 1: I've been saying it on TV. I've been saying it

666
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 1: on radio. I've been saying it on podcast. Lamar, get

667
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:31,800
Speaker 1: your money, because Jamack, if you don't think his style

668
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:36,360
Speaker 1: of play puts him in Harm's way more than a

669
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 1: typical drop back passer. I don't know what to tell you.

670
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 1: Say you're right, he has. He's done a great job

671
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:47,400
Speaker 1: of eluding the big hits for the most part and

672
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 1: avoiding injuries running the football. But that style is not

673
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:56,400
Speaker 1: a long term style because when you lose a half

674
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 1: a second or I should say a half a tenth

675
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 1: of a second, or a tenth of a second, two

676
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,719
Speaker 1: tenths of a second off your forty time, guess what

677
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 1: those shots that you were able to avoid, all of

678
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:10,840
Speaker 1: a sudden, they're connect. Let me just Rember. He is

679
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:13,360
Speaker 1: half the side. We saw the hit, We saw what

680
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 1: running the football did the Cam Newton. He's twice as

681
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 1: big as he was a battering ram dude. Lamar Jackson

682
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 1: is not. No, he's not, but he's also not nearly

683
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,879
Speaker 1: as big as Cam. Fair Enough, there's a reason we

684
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 1: haven't seen running quarterbacks state last quarterbacks that would argues

685
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 1: Christ the evolution. Look at most of it off the

686
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 1: quarterbacks they throw the football. You can Russell Wilson. He's

687
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:42,760
Speaker 1: sliding all the time. Josh Wilson again, much bigger than Lamar.

688
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 1: And this is so that's all I'm saying that's why

689
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 1: Pilot and I'm not endorsing everything he said because I

690
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:52,319
Speaker 1: thought he was crazy on some of his comments. But

691
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 1: Lamar does have They have to throw it more because

692
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 1: he already isn't running as much or as effectively as

693
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 1: he used to. I want to remind you of the

694
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:03,840
Speaker 1: last time Greg Roman was winning an offense. It was

695
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 1: in San Francisco. A guy by the name of Colin

696
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:10,240
Speaker 1: Kaepernick comes in takes the league by storm. Colin Kaepernick,

697
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 1: I knew you. I still have visions he won me

698
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:15,919
Speaker 1: so much money in San Francisco against the Packers, sprinting

699
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 1: I'm a gambling guy for Fox, but I'll never forget

700
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 1: Kaepernick torching Green Bay in the playoffs. I think back

701
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 1: to back years and it was like, holy cow, Colin

702
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:27,799
Speaker 1: Kaepernick is the future kind of quarterback in this league.

703
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 1: You remember Bill Polian, former Colts GM went on and

704
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 1: was like, oh, yeah, Colin Kaepernick an all time great already.

705
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 1: But guess what. Greg Roman was the offensive coordinator and

706
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 1: after three years the league kind of sort of figured

707
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 1: out the offense and Kaepernick did not have an off

708
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 1: speed pitch. A ka could not win from the pocket.

709
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 1: We're not there with Lamar Jackson. But this is year

710
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Speaker 1: five of Greg Roman and Lamar Jackson. Guess what when

711
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,439
Speaker 1: you look around the league and as I said, other

712
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 1: quarterbacks have added a receiver. You know, I've been bagging

713
00:40:58,200 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 1: on to a tongue of Valoa for a while. He

714
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:03,360
Speaker 1: just hadded Tyreek Hill. So to us, probably gonna improve it.

715
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 1: Everybody's gonna say, see to us, great, well, no, no,

716
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 1: bleep Sherlock, he just got Tyreek Hill. You look at

717
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, you kind of do that shrug emojition. Have

718
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:13,399
Speaker 1: they not tried, jay Man? But if they haven't tried

719
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 1: to get a Tyreek Hill, they haven't tried to get it.

720
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:17,840
Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins. These are top ten. They would want to

721
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Speaker 1: get one of those guys. Spending the friggin money back

722
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 1: up the brinks. Buffalo did it from Stefan Diggs and

723
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:26,799
Speaker 1: Josh Allen is a superstar. They have the money to

724
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 1: offer Tyreek Hill. Make the money, make it happen. You

725
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 1: got Lamar on the rookie deal. Look that's revisionist history,

726
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 1: jay Man, And I'm with you on trying to get

727
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:37,400
Speaker 1: him a big time receiver. I've been saying that for

728
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 1: almost two years. But they have tried to bring in

729
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,799
Speaker 1: better receivers and dudes didn't want to come. And one

730
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:49,720
Speaker 1: of their guys walked, and Hollywood Brown now is defending Lamar,

731
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:51,880
Speaker 1: and that's his friend. They could you can be friends

732
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,880
Speaker 1: and not want to play with a guy. But he

733
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 1: left here. There was no reason for him. Believe well,

734
00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 1: he did go to college with Kyler, Murrie, everybody. He's

735
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 1: played for a few years with Lamar. I'm sure every

736
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 1: buddy's too. He chose Kyler because he thinks he throws

737
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 1: the ball better. Let's just keep it real. I like

738
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 1: Lamar too, but he's got to improve in his passing.

739
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 1: And if you not saying that, then you're not doing

740
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 1: him any fact. I think we all have to improve it.

741
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:24,880
Speaker 1: Something Chris like, Yeah, yeah, of course Lamar needs a

742
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 1: little to be better at passing. Remember Josh Allen came

743
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 1: into the league as a sprigging project. That's your We

744
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 1: all have to improve, Yeah, Josh Allen, impost got the

745
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:35,439
Speaker 1: baby to eat a little bit. I need to cut

746
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:38,879
Speaker 1: down on the fried foods. Let's compare you definitely being

747
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:41,360
Speaker 1: a better path by the way, and you, from what

748
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 1: I hear, need to work on your jump. Shot. All right.

749
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 1: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd week

750
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 1: dayson neun Easter nine am Pacific. Can't wait to ask

751
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:55,880
Speaker 1: Eddie House about Jason Tatum versus Kevin Durant. Oh, okay,

752
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:58,319
Speaker 1: he played in Boston and now, yeah, no, I'm gonna

753
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 1: let you have that first. That can be the first.

754
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:03,359
Speaker 1: I just listen again. I don't want to look at

755
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 1: historical Kevin Durant, who's a great player. I've said it.

756
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 1: He's top fifteen, he was close to top ten. But

757
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 1: right right now, he was listening And I'm not talking

758
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:13,440
Speaker 1: two years ago. I'm not talking two years ago when

759
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:16,399
Speaker 1: he torched Milwaukee in that round for injuries? Why not?

760
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 1: Why aren't you because you say injuries are a factor.

761
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 1: That he was coming back from the Achilles at that

762
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:24,279
Speaker 1: point too, and he was amazing. But guess what this year,

763
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 1: what happened though the injury took so much out of you? Well,

764
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 1: who are we gonna blame this year? Where was he?

765
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 1: He was great? But he was he was not transcendent.

766
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 1: He was not tough, fantastic defensive scheme and physical defense.

767
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 1: That shows me in the nineties, he would have you know,

768
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 1: stop with this nineties garbage. The nineties is the most

769
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:47,280
Speaker 1: overrated NBA era ever. The hasiography that goes on pumping

770
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 1: up these guys, which was like dumping in the post

771
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 1: nine final scores. I get out of here with this.

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00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:58,240
Speaker 1: It was the expansion era, Chris. They added six new teams.

773
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 1: I know you were watching basketball at that time, Jay Max.

774
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:05,760
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna let the ignorant slide is Eddie, Eddie

775
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 1: houses here. I'm in the building you. I'm sorry you

776
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:14,439
Speaker 1: had to hear that nonsense Eddie before. I'm Jay Mack

777
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 1: has a big question for you. But I want to

778
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 1: ask you about this because we were talking about it earlier,

779
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:22,759
Speaker 1: myself and Jay Mack. Do you think the Warriors, now

780
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:26,440
Speaker 1: they got a nice young group of players right cominga pool,

781
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 1: Wiseman Moody, should they be willing to break up that

782
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 1: young group to get Kevin Durant. No simp as that.

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00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 1: You know, yep, you know why. You know why? It

784
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:44,919
Speaker 1: is because Kevin Durant came and Kevin Durant went. They

785
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 1: championships came, and they championships came back again without him.

786
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 1: Why would I jeopardize as great of a player I think,

787
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 1: Wiseman is gonna be really good in this league. I

788
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 1: think Commena's gonna be good once he starts figuring out

789
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 1: the offense and how to within that offense with the

790
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 1: players he has. Why would you give up on twenty two,

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00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:08,840
Speaker 1: twenty three young players right to bring in a thirty

792
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 1: four year old guy that maybe could deliver you something,

793
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:14,799
Speaker 1: but it's just gonna cause a whole lot of Let's

794
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 1: just say this. Everywhere he's went, Kevin Durant, since he's

795
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 1: left Oklahoma City has just been something going. It's been

796
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 1: something or something even when he was in Oklahoma City,

797
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:28,359
Speaker 1: always been something. And as great of a player as

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00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 1: he is. If I'm an organization, I've already want to

799
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:33,879
Speaker 1: tile with him. We've seen what had done. We want

800
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 1: to title before him, we want to title after him,

801
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 1: we want to tidle with him. We don't need to

802
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:39,880
Speaker 1: see that experiment again. I would not give up on

803
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:44,399
Speaker 1: a future that could see possibly more rings. And it

804
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:47,920
Speaker 1: really shows that it's this organization we don't need Kevin.

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00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:50,239
Speaker 1: I don't think the Warriors need Kevin Durant as much

806
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 1: as Kevin Durant needs the Warriors. Boom Boom, roasted you,

807
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:56,280
Speaker 1: Brusard all right, Eddie, let's get to the next question.

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00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 1: Let's get to the next one. And this one hurt

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00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:01,759
Speaker 1: brus last segment. You know you agree with this one.

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00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna start questioning you're saying. And you were in Boston.

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00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:08,839
Speaker 1: You had a front row seat for the Boston sweep

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00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 1: broom action of Kyrie and Kadi, and you know, Chris

813
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:14,319
Speaker 1: is like, well, it's kadis still the top five player.

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00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 1: I was like, he can be, but he's not right now.

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00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 1: I think, Ja, you didn't say that. You said he's

816
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:21,280
Speaker 1: a seventh best. I said top seven. And I believe

817
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:24,400
Speaker 1: Jason Tatum right now is better than Kevin Durant. They

818
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 1: went head to head in that series. Tatum was better

819
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:31,359
Speaker 1: at both. I'm gonna stop you right now, Jake Jay

820
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 1: you know, and you're my partner, you know you my partner.

821
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 1: But no, no way, because then you know, I'm gonna

822
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 1: tell you why if you would have dropped Kevin Durant

823
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 1: into that NBA Finals against the Warriors and to Jason

824
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 1: Tatum out, the Celtics are raising that a banner number eighteen.

825
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 1: You know, so it is no question, no if, no

826
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:55,799
Speaker 1: fanther bust about it. The one thing about it is

827
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:58,279
Speaker 1: that we know what Kevin Durant's gonna bring, I think

828
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 1: at that particular moment. And Jason Tatum is a great

829
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 1: young player. I love everything about him, you know everything

830
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:08,720
Speaker 1: about him. But I feel like at times the moment

831
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:11,840
Speaker 1: was too big, and sometimes it happened like that. You

832
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:13,840
Speaker 1: don't know what you're in until you're in it, and

833
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 1: then when you in it, you're like, WHOA, this is different.

834
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 1: Let me figure a way out. And then before you

835
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 1: try to figure a way, it's over and you're like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: next time I get in that predigament, I'm not gonna

837
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:27,239
Speaker 1: be like that. I'm better off now than I was

838
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 1: when I started, And I think that's what Jason Tatum

839
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Speaker 1: is going to be. I mean, we've seen it with

840
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 1: Lebron James and that twenty at twenty eleven finals where

841
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 1: it was like whoa, sometimes he looked like a deer

842
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 1: in the headlight. But then that following year, that following

843
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 1: year after that, and the following year after that, and

844
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 1: the you know, it was just like it was non

845
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 1: stop after that and he had to figure out sometimes

846
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:52,439
Speaker 1: you gotta take a bump on side of the head

847
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 1: to know how not to take a lick, and that

848
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 1: I think that's what happened. Yeah, Jay mcnee's a bump

849
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:03,760
Speaker 1: on side of the like the cartoon. How many lumps

850
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:10,320
Speaker 1: do you want? All right? Let look you are in Phoenix, Eddie. Um.

851
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 1: They we know they matched the offer for DeAndre Ay. Now,

852
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:16,920
Speaker 1: I've got two questions about this situation for you. My

853
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 1: first is strictly from a basketball standpoint. Do you like it?

854
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 1: I don't think that. I don't know why it took

855
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:28,399
Speaker 1: so long. I mean, a guy that averaged seventeen and ten,

856
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 1: that helped you get to the finals, that played above

857
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 1: and beyond what anybody expected to get to the finals

858
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 1: against Milwaukee, and actually played well. He just was put

859
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 1: up against a guy like Jannis. And I mean who

860
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 1: was stopping Yannis during those playoffs series. Nobody was had

861
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 1: him on an island trying to guard him at the

862
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 1: top of the key one on one. It's tough to do.

863
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 1: It's guy could put the ball on the floor. He's

864
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:50,759
Speaker 1: seven feet tall, he could finish at the rim, he

865
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 1: could shoot three. DeAndre a was put in a tough

866
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 1: situation in the finals, but getting to the finals did

867
00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:58,840
Speaker 1: everything that you were wanted. The number one player, I

868
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:01,439
Speaker 1: mean a number one draft to do and get better

869
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 1: every single year. He's seventeen and ten on the career.

870
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 1: I don't see why they didn't just get that done

871
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:11,680
Speaker 1: before last year, okay, and not have him feeling like

872
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:14,799
Speaker 1: I'm playing for another contract. And then I wanted to

873
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 1: extend him, and think about it what they did. They

874
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 1: extended Miles Bridges before they did him. And this is

875
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:22,880
Speaker 1: the number one overall pick. So what message are you

876
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 1: sending to that player? And I feel like that is

877
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 1: was kind of like the demise of the Phoenix Suns.

878
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 1: This playoff run was there was a lot of unanswered

879
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 1: questions looming about DeAndre eighteen, and then it was you

880
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 1: could hear the rumor mill was saying, does he play

881
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:41,879
Speaker 1: hard enough? We don't know if he's mature enough. Well,

882
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:43,840
Speaker 1: I mean, look how young he is. I mean, you

883
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 1: gotta expect him to be a Kimolajuan when he comes

884
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:49,759
Speaker 1: out at nineteen years old. It's not gonna happen. But

885
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:52,799
Speaker 1: I think that was the biggest issue. I'm not sure

886
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 1: if they're they're matching it, but I'm not sure if

887
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:59,320
Speaker 1: he'll still be here. Well, see, I was gonna quickly

888
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:02,439
Speaker 1: j mcgi, I'm like, do you okay? So you think

889
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:05,319
Speaker 1: they could end up trading him? Obviously it won't be

890
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:09,240
Speaker 1: before January, and he has veto power over any trade

891
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 1: over the next year. But I was gonna ask you,

892
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:14,280
Speaker 1: do they need to do a lot of smoothing things

893
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 1: over a lot of massaging, because, as you said, they

894
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:21,240
Speaker 1: kind of disrespected him. Well, one hundred and thirty three million,

895
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:26,360
Speaker 1: the massage is a whole lot of things he wanted more, though, Eddie. Yeah,

896
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, you know, well, I

897
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:32,919
Speaker 1: mean nobody, Phoenix, Prilly wasn't willing to give him anything, right,

898
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:35,920
Speaker 1: and then so the first first team that offering one

899
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 1: one thirty three they like will match that? Cool, you know,

900
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:41,360
Speaker 1: because maybe he was askable, but what we know is

901
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:43,680
Speaker 1: what he got, and one hundred and thirty three million

902
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:45,719
Speaker 1: will smooth out a whole lot of things. He's gonna

903
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 1: walk into that building understanding that he is getting compensated

904
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:51,440
Speaker 1: for what he has been doing, for being a number

905
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 1: one pick and living up to those standards because we've

906
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:56,440
Speaker 1: seen a lot of let's not forget, we've seen a

907
00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 1: lot of guys go number one that ain't put up

908
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 1: no numbers at the end of the day they out

909
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:04,400
Speaker 1: the league. So, you know, shout out to him for

910
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 1: sticking with it, because it's not easy when you're going

911
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:10,360
Speaker 1: through that those type of things and to still be

912
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:12,360
Speaker 1: able to go out and perform and put up his

913
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 1: numbers regardless of what everybody else is saying. People want

914
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 1: him to be somebody that he's not. People need to

915
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 1: just accept the fact that this is who he is

916
00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:22,399
Speaker 1: and this is what he brings to the table now

917
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:25,839
Speaker 1: looking forward. Can he get better? Yes he can. Everybody can.

918
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:28,720
Speaker 1: And he's so young. I think a lot of times

919
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 1: we want to just give up on these young players

920
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:35,359
Speaker 1: so fast because you expect instantaneous. That's the social media world.

921
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 1: You're expecting it to happen right now. It takes time

922
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 1: for people to develop, and I think he's been developing

923
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 1: every single year. Sons had an embarrassing Game seven home

924
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 1: loss by a million points to Luca and the MAVs.

925
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:49,879
Speaker 1: Even though they're bringing back eighton, he doesn't seem happy

926
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:51,919
Speaker 1: about it, you know, Eddie, I look at the West,

927
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 1: I see the Clippers are going to be there, the

928
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 1: Nuggets are gonna be there, The MAVs are better than

929
00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:59,920
Speaker 1: the Sun's Golden State won the championship. I mean, the

930
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:02,360
Speaker 1: Son's even top six in the West next year. I

931
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:04,879
Speaker 1: mean I didn't even talk about like the Pelicans who

932
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 1: didn't have Zion and push them stopping with the Pelicans.

933
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:10,920
Speaker 1: They're better than the Pelicans. Okay, will they be battling

934
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:13,360
Speaker 1: with the Clippers. Yes, they'll be battling with the Clippers.

935
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:17,239
Speaker 1: Do I think that Luca and Dallas caught them in

936
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 1: a vulnerable spot not being not understanding like this is

937
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:23,839
Speaker 1: a real grind after playing in the NBA Finals, having

938
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:27,319
Speaker 1: some of those guys having a very short offseason, then

939
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 1: getting right back into it. I think they'll be better

940
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:34,560
Speaker 1: than Dallas next year. Obviously, the Warriors. I don't think

941
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:36,279
Speaker 1: that they're better than the Warriors. I think that the

942
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:40,440
Speaker 1: Warriors are retooled that if to me, the Warriors are

943
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:42,080
Speaker 1: the favorite to win it all next year again, and

944
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 1: I mean I think that they literally can go back

945
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 1: to back. And I'm not just saying that. I'm saying

946
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 1: I feel like Deef Curry has put himself on a

947
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 1: different level to where we've been talking about all these

948
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:55,960
Speaker 1: other players. He probably is the best player in the

949
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:59,200
Speaker 1: NBA right now, the most unguardable player. We talk about

950
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 1: seven foot Kevin Durant can get it shot off of anybody. Well,

951
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 1: we're talking about a six three guy that can get

952
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:07,439
Speaker 1: his shot off, can finish at the rim with either hand,

953
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:09,880
Speaker 1: that can pass with either hand, that can make the

954
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:12,759
Speaker 1: right play, that understands how to play basketball, and he

955
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:15,440
Speaker 1: plays winning basketball, and he's unselfish. He might be the

956
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:18,279
Speaker 1: best player in the league right now, top ten all time.

957
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:21,919
Speaker 1: Before you go yes, and it's no doubt. I watched

958
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 1: I watched it up up close and personal, and I've

959
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 1: seen how he goes about his work. Let's not say

960
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 1: how he gets his shot. You have to be in

961
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 1: phenomenal shape, and to be in that that greatest shape

962
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:36,400
Speaker 1: late in the season and getting targeted on defense and

963
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:39,359
Speaker 1: not really giving up as much as he was when

964
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:42,280
Speaker 1: people thought that he that was his weakness. He definitely

965
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:44,839
Speaker 1: is a top ten player, no doubt about it. That's

966
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 1: our man. Eddie House, the NBA champion. Eddie after a

967
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:51,840
Speaker 1: rough start with that first question about KD to the Warriors,

968
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:56,440
Speaker 1: that was a spectacular interview. I love the way you, son,

969
00:53:56,640 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 1: Jay on the first question. I just didn't with you

970
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:05,160
Speaker 1: on that. With the yeah, I let that go. I

971
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:09,640
Speaker 1: let that go. All right, man, have a great weekend,

972
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 1: all right. Take care, brothers,