1 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:10,960 Speaker 1: Welcome to Point Game with John Wall and CJ Toldonnald, 2 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 1: presented by DraftKings. Don't forget DraftKings is your home for 3 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:17,079 Speaker 1: all the action across the NBA and gets you closer 4 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 1: to the game. We all love. The crown is yours. 5 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:21,799 Speaker 1: It's gonna get some business out the way. Later in 6 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 1: the show, we're gonna have John's former teammate in two 7 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 1: thousand and nine NBA champion, Trevor Reza joining us. But 8 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 1: I've been excited. I haven't talked to John here since 9 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:34,560 Speaker 1: some major news broke out a couple of days ago. 10 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:37,839 Speaker 1: So I just want to introduce John John Wall, our 11 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 1: co host on the show Point Game. John, How you 12 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 1: doing man? 13 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:42,559 Speaker 2: I'm great, man. 14 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:46,240 Speaker 3: I got opportunities to I went to Cabo for a 15 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 3: little vacation, the business trip. Now I went to the 16 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:53,599 Speaker 3: backdowns All American game in Houston, and now I'm back here, 17 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 3: back in Miami, sitting down relaxing for a little bit. 18 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 3: I ain't traveling tall go watch my AU team play 19 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 3: and decided to get back to the podcast. I mean, 20 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 3: we took two weeks off, so we're gonna make up 21 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 3: for some time we missed. But I'm excited to be 22 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 3: back and just get to talk about a lot of 23 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 3: news and great things that's been going on. 24 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:15,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, man, I mean, you know, one of the reasons 25 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 1: why I was like, we got to do a podcast 26 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 1: with you is because when big things in basketball happen, 27 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 1: there's always a good chance that it's going to relate 28 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: back to you. Now what I was alluding to him 29 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: for Coach Cal, let's talk about it. Coach call announced. 30 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 1: I think it was a couple of days ago, and 31 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 1: it's now official that he is going to be the 32 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 1: new coach at Arkansas. So leaving Kentucky. What was your 33 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 1: reaction to the news. Give us the lowdown, what what's 34 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 1: going on. 35 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 3: It wasn't too shocking to me because just the way, 36 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 3: like you know what, I mean, they lost, They lost 37 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 3: the game to Oakland, and you start hearing out the 38 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 3: news do get rid of Cal? 39 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 2: We need to get rid of Cal. We need this, 40 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 2: we need that. 41 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 3: And I think, like you said in his h his 42 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 3: last message to Blue Nation, I mean, it was his 43 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 3: dream job. Then me have opportunity to come to experience 44 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 3: everything he has done. Everybody know how big Kentucky basketball is. 45 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 3: It was big before he got there, But I feel 46 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 3: like he took it to a whole nother level, you 47 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:10,919 Speaker 3: know what I mean, having a lot of guys come 48 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 3: in and be number one recruits, number one recruiting classes, 49 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 3: a lot of five star guys coming there, so many 50 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 3: guys that's in the NBA. I think, well, he had 51 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:21,079 Speaker 3: seven eight guys that was in an All Star Game 52 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:22,639 Speaker 3: this year, a lot of number one picks that came 53 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 3: through there. And you know, a lot of people based 54 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 3: their legacy off championships. You I mean, championship are great, 55 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 3: don't get me wrong, Like everybody wants to win them, 56 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 3: and I feel like every school wants to win him. 57 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 3: For him, I think it was just that was his 58 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 3: ultimate goal, but it was bigger than it also, you know, 59 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 3: I mean he built so many great relationships with people 60 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 3: in Kentucky, with all the parents, the kids that played 61 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 3: for him, and you just see the love. If you 62 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 3: go into the comments all the kids that you're gonna 63 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:48,239 Speaker 3: have some haters, you gonna have some people that really 64 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 3: respect and love what he did for him. Well, for me, 65 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 3: it's sad to seemly. You know, I'm still a part 66 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 3: of Kentucky. I'm still gonna be Big Blue Nation year mean, 67 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 3: that's the school. They gave me opportunity to play on 68 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 3: the highest level and college basketball d one one of 69 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 3: the biggest schools ever, and didn'tet opportunity to go to 70 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 3: the MBAK, you know. I mean, that's always family me. 71 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 3: I have dy Jersey tat on me. I'm in the 72 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 3: Hall of Fame. So it's always loving support with Kentucky 73 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 3: and that's never gonna change from that. But I'm always 74 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 3: going to support cal too, no matter what school's he at. 75 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 3: And I think he just, like he said, it was 76 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:21,799 Speaker 3: just time, you know what I mean, Like it's sad 77 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 3: to see a breakup like that happened, but I think 78 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 3: it was just time. You could see it and hearing 79 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 3: his voice like he had like a lot more joy. 80 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 3: He's getting that excitement back now and he getting the 81 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:33,079 Speaker 3: start fresh. I mean, like you said, sometimes you need 82 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 3: a new fresh start, even though you might want to 83 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 3: be with that person instead of with that person. I 84 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 3: think he needed a fresh start and he's doing what's 85 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 3: best for him and his family. And I just feel 86 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 3: like it's gonna be a lot of pressure to whoever 87 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 3: get the next job of Kentucky kind of live up 88 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 3: to what he did. 89 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 4: You. 90 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 3: I mean it might not be the championships, but all 91 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 3: the other things that he brought to the university. 92 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be special. 93 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 3: But uh, I think, uh the ad Mitch Bonnhardt gonna 94 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 3: do a great job just trying to find somebody new, 95 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 3: find somebody else to come in and keep the legacy 96 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 3: going to building can But Augusta as got a great 97 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 3: when they coach Cale, and I think they're super super excited. 98 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, and we'll talk about maybe you know, who could 99 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 1: fill that spot. But like I think there were you know, 100 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 1: there were a couple of weeks there when people are 101 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 1: you know, I think some reports are coming out that 102 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 1: Cal staying and in a lot of this news, it's 103 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:20,719 Speaker 1: like you said, you weren't shocked. It makes sense. So 104 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:23,039 Speaker 1: like let's go back to a couple of weeks ago 105 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:25,280 Speaker 1: when when it was looking like Cow was gonna stay. 106 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:28,280 Speaker 1: Was there any thought to you in your head of like, man, 107 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:31,039 Speaker 1: while you staying, Like it's a lot of pressure, You've 108 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 1: done a lot in like the UK fans want championships, 109 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 1: but like you know, so were you in your head 110 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 1: like thinking about that possibility that this could happen. 111 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, Like I mean, like as simple as 112 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 3: this man, Like it's all what have you donely, like 113 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 3: you know, any part of business doing? That's what have 114 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:52,840 Speaker 3: you done for me lately? And I think you want 115 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 3: to be wanted, you know, I mean, you want to 116 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 3: feel the love, you want the support, You want to 117 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:57,480 Speaker 3: be wanted where you are. And I think that void 118 00:04:57,480 --> 00:04:59,599 Speaker 3: had just went away with the last four years of 119 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:02,159 Speaker 3: how things that went in the tournament, not going far, 120 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 3: having certain ubstances against certain teams. I think like the 121 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:08,119 Speaker 3: fan base just got annoy it. But it's interesting because, 122 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 3: like I said before, it's like everybody praising them for 123 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 3: what he was doing didn't stop raising him. I mean, 124 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 3: so it's a gifting the curse. But at the same time, 125 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:17,480 Speaker 3: now when he decided, oh I might take this Arkansas job, 126 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 3: now you hear all the fans like, no, we don't 127 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 3: want to leave, we want out to stay. But like 128 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 3: you kind of pushed them out, you know what I mean, 129 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 3: Like you kind of gave them the void to it. 130 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:26,599 Speaker 3: Like we if I'm not feeling the love and support 131 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 3: I've been getting for the last fifteen years when I 132 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 3: came here in two thousand and nine twenty ten, what 133 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 3: am I staying for you know. I mean I think 134 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 3: he found that he's found his happenings back because I 135 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:39,840 Speaker 3: think if you just watch it, every coach wants to win. 136 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:42,159 Speaker 3: Like the difference is he has a lot of young guys. 137 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 3: I mean, but he makes no excuses. He keep up 138 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:46,039 Speaker 3: a couple of veteran guys, a lot of young guys. 139 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 3: When you look at most of the team that's winning, 140 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:50,279 Speaker 3: they got juniors, they got seniors, they got fifth year seniors, 141 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 3: sometimes six year seniors because you get those extra years 142 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 3: because of the redshirt of COVID. And I mean not 143 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:57,359 Speaker 3: too many teams going there with a lot of freshmen 144 00:05:57,400 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 3: to go in. I mean it's hard. It's very difficult. 145 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:03,280 Speaker 3: Me never in that spotlight. You really don't know what 146 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 3: that march madness feeling is. Like, I mean, it's one 147 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:09,040 Speaker 3: game is over and then when the buzzy hit you like, damn, 148 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 3: my season is over. I mean, so it's different. But 149 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:13,599 Speaker 3: like I said, I'm happy for him whatever he feels 150 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 3: best for him and his family. You know, he always 151 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 3: got a lot of love for me from a lot 152 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 3: of players that play for him. I know, the University 153 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 3: of Kentucky, Lovelm, the Big Blue Nation fans still love him. 154 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 3: It's just now you gotta wait and see who's going 155 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 3: to be next, Like who's going to fill the void? 156 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, you said you talked to him very recently, and 157 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 1: any tidbits you can share that that may have not 158 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 1: been said by him or by the meat at all. 159 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 3: No, I talked to him yesterday. I just said with something, coach, 160 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:41,840 Speaker 3: how you doing? I mean, just checking on it. I mean, 161 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 3: because God thinks somewhere you've been for fifteen years that's home. 162 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 3: It's like, well you've been. You built so many great relationships, 163 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 3: you have done so many great things for university. So 164 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 3: just start over and start fresh as something new. But 165 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 3: and just in his voice, you get hear the excitement, 166 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 3: like you know what I mean, You get a new 167 00:06:57,440 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 3: opportunity to start freshing. He's loved over there, he's got 168 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:04,039 Speaker 3: the support, he got the fan base that wants him. 169 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 3: So it's sometimes you have to make that move, and 170 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 3: sometimes you don't want to break have that breakup. But 171 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 3: like you said, I feel like it was needed. They 172 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 3: need a new voice at Kentucky, and he had an 173 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 3: opportunity to go get a new jobs. So I'm not 174 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 3: mad at him that you got to do his best 175 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 3: for you at any day now. 176 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 1: I you know, before this, I mean, yeah, it's been 177 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 1: fifteen years. Coach was at Memphis National Championship there or 178 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 1: went to the National Championship and you know, went to 179 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 1: Kentucky and went far, you know, one in twenty twelve. 180 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 1: Do you think you know? But like mainly I think 181 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 1: the big thing people know calas you know, he gets 182 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 1: his players prepared for the NBA. Now that he's going 183 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 1: to Arkansas, a team that necessarily we don't see go 184 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 1: very far in the tournament. Do you think his his 185 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 1: sort of coaching initiatives or like approach to coaching changes 186 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 1: at all or is he still you know, you go 187 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 1: to get NBA ready with coach. 188 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 3: Cal Nope, I think nothing changes and he still loved 189 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 3: the coach. And I think that's the reason one reason 190 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 3: why he made the movies, because he's not going to 191 00:07:58,080 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 3: change how he coached. 192 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 2: He's not going to change. He's not gonna change his style. 193 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 3: We have to understand he was the one that done 194 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 3: king when coaches was scared to do they want to done, 195 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like people were terrified as 196 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 3: being that one to done. He started the one that 197 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 3: done there like he got it going, and then you 198 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 3: started to see the guys at Duke and all these 199 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 3: other great schools started to be wanted done, you know. 200 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 3: I mean people was terrified that at first you had 201 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 3: to do two years or three years. I mean, because 202 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 3: it was so many great talents before he started that 203 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 3: should have been one of done. Easily could have won 204 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 3: one of done. But I think I think that's another 205 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 3: big reason why he made the movies, like, yeah, I 206 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 3: want to win championships. 207 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to go far in the tournament. Truch 208 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 2: everybody does. 209 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 3: I don't think no coach sits there and say, yeah, 210 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 3: I got one of them players, But I don't care 211 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:39,679 Speaker 3: about winning. You still want to win, you know what 212 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 3: I mean. But a Kentucky's a lot of press state. 213 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 3: They want to hang banners. They don't care about what 214 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:45,599 Speaker 3: the rector is, the record is. They want to go 215 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:47,079 Speaker 3: far in the tournament, you know what I mean. The last 216 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 3: couple of years haven't been that for him, and I 217 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 3: think they kind of started to get to the fans 218 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 3: and they wanted things to change. And I mean, sometimes 219 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 3: you're stuck in your waist. But I think he does 220 00:08:56,920 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 3: a great job of what he does and hopefully keep 221 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 3: doing great things at Arkansas. And I feel like he's 222 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 3: going to keep the same trend going there he had 223 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:08,559 Speaker 3: when he had Kentucky. Jess arkasas me because like I 224 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 3: think he did it at Memphis. 225 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not like he didn't have a trend where 226 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 2: he already had it going. 227 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 3: Like who's really going to Memphis before coach Kyle with 228 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:18,199 Speaker 3: the Memphis Right, you see what I'm saying, Like who 229 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 3: was going to you Max before he went to U 230 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 3: Mass Right? I mean like great players were going to 231 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 3: Kentucky regards before coach Kyle got it done, get me wrong, 232 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 3: but then they had a downfall for a couple of years. 233 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:28,439 Speaker 3: I mean in I t a couple of years, it's 234 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 3: not making a tournament. Then boom, Kyle come back. You 235 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 3: got team like us come in. You get five five 236 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 3: five star recruits coming in, five guys going in the 237 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 3: first round. You start off eighteen and oh you know 238 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 3: what I mean, the next year you bring the recruiting 239 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 3: classes Brandon Knight and Dawn Limb and Tan I mean, 240 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:46,079 Speaker 3: you bring those guys in. Then the following year, Ad 241 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 3: and them come you win the championship, I mean, so 242 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 3: it's just like he has a trend, and I think 243 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 3: what he brings to the game and what he brings 244 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 3: the college basketball is going to continue to go. And 245 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 3: I think Kentucky lost a great one, but we never 246 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:00,439 Speaker 3: know who they can replace him hopefully do a great 247 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:00,960 Speaker 3: job also. 248 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 1: Man, so I just got like chills a little bit 249 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:07,559 Speaker 1: because I'm like, Coachkal isn't just gonna have like you know, 250 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 1: he's gonna bring some guys over there, right, there's gonna 251 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 1: be he's gonna want to come out out the gate 252 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 1: on fire, like you we might see another eighteen o. 253 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:17,439 Speaker 1: Like what what do you expect from that? That program. 254 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 2: I really don't know too much about the school. 255 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 3: I know they, I mean it's a basketball for they 256 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 3: and the sec that football school. 257 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:23,319 Speaker 2: Also. 258 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 3: Don't get me wrong, they have other great sports, but 259 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 3: I don't really know the history about it anything. But 260 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 3: I just think he's going to keep the same trend going. 261 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:33,080 Speaker 3: I don't think nothing stops here for him. I mean, 262 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:35,439 Speaker 3: I think it's a different place I've been in Kentucky 263 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 3: where you have those crazy fan base that's probably the 264 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 3: best in the country for me. Yeah, but uh, he's 265 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 3: gonna bring Town wherever he goes, Like, I don't think 266 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 3: town is going to not want to mess with coach Kyle. 267 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 3: I think they're going to continue to want to deal 268 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 3: with them. The pedigree he bring, the area he brains. 269 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 3: I think it's just great for God's basketball. 270 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 1: So let's talk about the huge coaching vacancy over at Kentucky. Now, 271 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 1: are there some names that you like? Are there some 272 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 1: names that you're saying and that you could see there 273 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 1: like talk about, you know, some specific names and maybe 274 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 1: even just like what type of coach do you need 275 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 1: over there at Kentucky now to you know, pick up 276 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 1: on some winning ways. 277 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:12,559 Speaker 3: I just hope they get a great coach. That's the 278 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 3: university I went to. I want them to continue to 279 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:16,200 Speaker 3: be good man. I want to continue to support them. 280 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 3: I want to continue to be able to go to games. 281 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 3: Whoever the new coach come. I want to be able 282 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 3: to bild a relationship with him so to have the 283 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:24,320 Speaker 3: opportunity to come back and steal use the facility when 284 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:25,679 Speaker 3: I work out, you know, I mean come around and 285 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 3: be around the team and go to practices and go 286 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 3: to games and support I'm always going to continue to 287 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 3: do that because that place is like home to me. 288 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 3: I mean, even though coach guys separated, that's still the 289 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 3: place I call home. That's where I went to college. 290 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 3: That's where I left high school and learned how to 291 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 3: be a man on another level to prepare me for 292 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:44,080 Speaker 3: the NBA show. Whoever they get a hope is great. 293 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 3: Hope I can build a relationship with them and hope 294 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 3: as a guy that can get them to where they 295 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 3: want to get to and win more championships. 296 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to talk about the women's tournament in 297 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 1: the championship too, But as a segue, people are even 298 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 1: throwing Don Stealely's name into coaching Kentucky. You think we 299 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:02,199 Speaker 1: ever do you think Don could handle that job and 300 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 1: succeed or do you think we'll ever see something like that? 301 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 2: Man? 302 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:08,959 Speaker 3: The way the game is growing from women and men, 303 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 3: and you never know, you know, I mean, I think 304 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 3: Lindsay Hardy has the opportunity to get an interview for 305 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 3: the head coaching job. So just to see like these 306 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 3: coaches breaking, these women coaches breaking the record of just 307 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:23,319 Speaker 3: being G League coaches, being assistant coach on the NBA teams. 308 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 3: You know, even in the NFL you have coaches women 309 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 3: coaches on the sideline, Like I think that's great for 310 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 3: the game. And Don Staley's a goat, you know what 311 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 3: I mean, Like from being a player to coaching and 312 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 3: what they thinks she's done in a short amount of time, 313 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 3: it has been amazing. I mean, so it's a lot 314 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 3: of supporting. You just see the love, Like that's the 315 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 3: type of love you want your players to have. You 316 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 3: like to play for your coach, and I mean like 317 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 3: they love everything about don the way she carries herself, 318 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 3: the way she is as the person, the way she 319 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 3: believe in God, the way she prepares them. She does 320 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 3: at a high level. I mean, so you have to 321 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 3: respect everything Don Staley does. But what she has going 322 00:12:57,440 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 3: to Sycolna is up to her. If she wanted to leave, 323 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:01,200 Speaker 3: I bet she You get a lot of opportunities, and 324 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:04,080 Speaker 3: I think she will eventually get opportunity to coach min 325 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 3: that you want to. I mean, I think it just 326 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 3: all depends on what she wants. But she's a hell 327 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 3: of a coach, a hell of a person, and I 328 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 3: respect her. 329 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 1: Let's talk about that national championship even in the final 330 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 1: four too, your general reaction. Let's sum it up, like 331 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 1: from that final four that we saw the Iowa Yukon game. 332 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 1: You know, Uh, South Carolina took care of business pretty 333 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 1: easily in that second half to go to the National Championship. 334 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 1: Same story. I think for the National Championship you called 335 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 1: South Carolina. Was there any I guess, any doubt in 336 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:34,439 Speaker 1: your mind in those last two games where you're like, oh, 337 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 1: it could be somebody else. 338 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 3: I just think Ayoa had a chance, you know what 339 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 3: I mean? They beat him last year, you know what 340 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 3: I mean? And they come in with a whole new 341 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 3: team from last year. I think the biggest separation was 342 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 3: it their defensive game plan on Kaylan car was amazing. 343 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:52,599 Speaker 3: She miss shots though, don't get me wrong, but the 344 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 3: girl Raymond Johnson played great defense. 345 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean she she. 346 00:13:57,600 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 3: Had a revenge tour from last year and me been 347 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 3: on the team and then losing in the final four, 348 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:03,959 Speaker 3: I think it was big for them. But I think 349 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:05,719 Speaker 3: the separation of the whole tire game was and we 350 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 3: all knew what it was gonna be going into it once. 351 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 3: Who made the most threes and could iouay stop them 352 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 3: on the rebound it? I think, I mean, uh, and 353 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 3: this South Carolina team was a better shooting team than 354 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:18,559 Speaker 3: the team from last year from the outside, I mean, 355 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 3: and that's the key. You look at last night in 356 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 3: the men's game, they said, we'll let Edie kill. We 357 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 3: can't give up threes. Then they only took seven threes. 358 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 2: Eight threes. That's probably the lowest they ever took all season. 359 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 3: They only made one, I mean, and that was a 360 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 3: tough one on a fadeaway on Buzzy beater. So then 361 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 3: Harley was like, listen, we're not gonna let them beat 362 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 3: us with three. So the game planning, what it basically was, 363 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 3: was three. So I think John Stale and their coaching 364 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 3: stat kimbl the great game plan of not trying to 365 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 3: give us so many threes. But at the same time, 366 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 3: iou missed a lot of threes, I mean, missed a 367 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 3: lot of easy baskets. But South Carolina played well, played great, 368 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 3: and they said that's what they do. I mean, great 369 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 3: teams they separate and get that separation that they need, 370 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 3: the same as U Kons always coach called coaching that 371 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 3: second half. They get that stretch where they go on 372 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 3: to ten to thirteen and fifteen run fifteen oh run, 373 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 3: and it's hard to get back into the game because 374 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 3: they can't speed them up. They're getting off his rebounds 375 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 3: and they're making their open shots. That's when it just 376 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 3: gets tough. 377 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you about a specific player on 378 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 1: South Carolina because I was watching her again and seeing 379 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 1: the highlights Malaysia full whiley well, I think you know 380 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 1: the question I might ask, but like, what do you 381 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 1: think about her game? And then I want to ask 382 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 1: you about a yes signature move that electric? 383 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 3: I see she did it, bind it back again. She 384 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 3: missed it this time, but she's super electric. I feel 385 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 3: like her and the other girl out on number five Johnson, 386 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 3: she's a freshman all So they came in. I think 387 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 3: they really gave Shocker Line the boost they needed because 388 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 3: they were struggling early on. They wasn't making shots and 389 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 3: Ayouas was rolling. And they came in early in the 390 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 3: second the first half, in like first quarter, second quarter, 391 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 3: they came in. I think she had like nine or 392 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 3: eleven going to have the them Malaysia girl had like 393 00:15:57,680 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 3: what seven or not going to have. So they came in, 394 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 3: gave them that scoring booster they needed, and from that 395 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 3: point forward, when they got the game close and they 396 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 3: went up with five, I think three or five going 397 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 3: into half, they knew we was in the game now, 398 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 3: and then all it was was just the making shots. 399 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 3: But I think the freshman's played well for when it 400 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 3: made big shots for when they need them too. 401 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 2: And then Cadoza, you couldn't do nothing with it down there. 402 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 1: One thing I want to ask you about Caitlyn Clark 403 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 1: and a lot of these, you know, the girls that 404 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 1: are going into WNBA draft, is the draft is happening 405 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 1: next week and then the season is starting I think 406 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 1: May fifteenth. Talk can you talk about that turnaround? Like 407 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 1: the time between I think you had what six months 408 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 1: before you became Anna, they have like. 409 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 3: Two It's different, not even two months. Come on, bro, 410 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 3: they just they just finished the championship game Sunday. They're 411 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 3: getting drafted this Monday. That I mean, so your life 412 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 3: changes that fast? And I'm like, we took time, Like 413 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 3: the men's played Monday yesterday. You don't get drafted to 414 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 3: June to look how much I mean, you got juniity, 415 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 3: you got the summer league. So they have time, you know, 416 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 3: I mean to relax and prepare. 417 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:06,439 Speaker 2: But I don't know. 418 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 3: I think it's great. It's gonna be a lot of 419 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:10,160 Speaker 3: great talent coming into the WNBA. It's already so much 420 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 3: great talent in the WNB now. I just love the 421 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 3: love and support that the women game again, Like for me, 422 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:18,159 Speaker 3: I always been a fan of the women's game. Like 423 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 3: if you notice me, when I was in DC, went 424 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:22,639 Speaker 3: to a lot of Mystics games. When I'm on the 425 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 3: road and I have opportunity, I try to go to 426 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:28,679 Speaker 3: games and support and it's just excitement. I just love 427 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 3: to watch basketball, no matter it was men's and women. 428 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:35,360 Speaker 3: But I think the platforms they're getting now it's spectacling. 429 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 3: It's special for them and hopefully they can up the 430 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 3: money for them to get paid more than WNBA, you know. 431 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 3: I mean, because they're so gifted and talented, there shouldn't 432 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 3: be no knock on if they are men's or women. 433 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:49,199 Speaker 3: I mean, if the NBA order w B, I think 434 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:52,119 Speaker 3: they should get taken care of. They probably won't get 435 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:54,160 Speaker 3: to the level we are, but they should get taken 436 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,120 Speaker 3: care of very well, you know. I mean, because if 437 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 3: they want to go overseas, I think they should be 438 00:17:57,920 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 3: for them to decide, you know what I mean. Or 439 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 3: the ones that don't make it in WNBA, but they're 440 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:05,200 Speaker 3: too talented to have to play in WNBA and then 441 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 3: go over SIPs to just make sure they financially straight. 442 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 3: They're too talented, too gifted, so hopefull they can make 443 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 3: a change in that environment. 444 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 1: At some point, last question before we had to break, 445 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 1: do you think Caitlyn and Angel Reese do you think 446 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:19,959 Speaker 1: either of them make the All Star team and their 447 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:20,679 Speaker 1: rookie season? 448 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:24,920 Speaker 3: Oh no, I got to shid on don't. But I 449 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 3: think they're both going to be a lectric against spectacling. 450 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:29,159 Speaker 3: If Caitlyn goes once, you get to play with the 451 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 3: Leah Boston, So that'd be a great matchup and dynamic, 452 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 3: do it? 453 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:32,880 Speaker 2: Worr? 454 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 1: I mean, so I thought that was doing Aleijah calling 455 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 1: the game, and then you know. 456 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:40,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess I said, and she see the revenge 457 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 3: toy end the way it did, you know me from 458 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:44,640 Speaker 3: losing to them last year that, yeah, see don come 459 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:45,120 Speaker 3: back and win. 460 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 2: I think that was spectacular. 461 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 1: So and then knowing Caitlyn's going to be on her 462 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:49,159 Speaker 1: squad next. 463 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:52,120 Speaker 2: Year, so I wonder what that conversation was after she celebrated. 464 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:54,639 Speaker 1: Right right, it looked like all respect between everybody. So 465 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 1: all right, well we're going to take a break and 466 00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:58,920 Speaker 1: we come back on point game, which John won't c 467 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 1: told Donno. We're gonna be joined by NBA Champion Trevor Reza. 468 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 1: We'll be back on point game. Welcome back to Point 469 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 1: Game with John Wall and CJ tol'donnell, presented by DraftKings. 470 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 1: We are now joined by two thousand and three California 471 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 1: Mister Basketball and two thousand and nine NBA Champion with 472 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Lakers Ladies and Gentlemen, Trevor Resa joining 473 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 1: the show. Trevor, how's it going man? 474 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 2: Doing good? Chilling, chilling, Brody. 475 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 1: I like when we get you know, John's former teammates 476 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 1: on here, because I feel like there's a lot of 477 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:41,239 Speaker 1: stories that probably you know, you guys haven't told, so 478 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:45,400 Speaker 1: I guess I wanted to. I want to know, Trevor, 479 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 1: how was it playing with John at Washington? Do you 480 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 1: have any funny stories? Like what was that experience playing together? 481 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 2: Man? 482 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 4: I think I called John probably liking this earlier part 483 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 4: of his career where he was just starting to figure 484 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:05,919 Speaker 4: out the game. I will say so in that space, 485 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 4: in that time, we was, you know, we had to 486 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 4: go in to my first year as there as his teammate. 487 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 2: We was sorry yourself. It was frustration. 488 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 4: But the second year that we were teammates, that's when, 489 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 4: like every that's when he took off into who he 490 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 4: was as a player and everything just went upwards from there. 491 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 4: You know, he got everybody involved canning down the court, 492 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 4: you know, take two or three dribbles. He already at 493 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 4: the other end of the basket, and that it made 494 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 4: everybody else's job easier because all we had to do 495 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 4: was run the lanes out of run to the three 496 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:38,680 Speaker 4: point line, and run for layups because he puts so 497 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 4: much pressure on the rim. So you know, being betting 498 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 4: the opportunity to play with somebody like John was it 499 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 4: was good for It made my job easier. 500 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:51,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was telling them about the game. I forgot 501 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 3: how many threes you had. I think you had like 502 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:56,159 Speaker 3: thirty eight or forty was in Philly. In Philly, I 503 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:59,360 Speaker 3: mean in the first half, I don't know, I think, 504 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 3: but it was just like this is when the NBA 505 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:05,639 Speaker 3: was like they used to always like tag and not 506 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 3: really switch pick and rolls and help. And I was like, 507 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 3: all right, I know what my shooter is. In transition, 508 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 3: he was running to the slot in the half court. 509 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 3: It was deep corner and they just kept helping, help, help, 510 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:16,119 Speaker 3: and I was like, we ain't got to really do 511 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 3: too much, like he's making shots. But uh, for you, Trip, 512 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:20,959 Speaker 3: I'll just You've been my og since we first met 513 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:24,679 Speaker 3: in twenty twelve. We played together for twenty fourteen, and 514 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:26,879 Speaker 3: I like most vests. Bro, you came in very silent. 515 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 3: You always was about business, but when you spoke, we 516 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 3: all knew HI meant business. It was no bullshit. So 517 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:33,639 Speaker 3: I just want to give you a flowers and let 518 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:34,680 Speaker 3: you know how much you meant to me. And I 519 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:38,399 Speaker 3: appreciate it because I'll never forget. Uh We playing our 520 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:42,119 Speaker 3: first game in playoffs against the Bulls and I was 521 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 3: jogging back like two minutes into the game. 522 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 2: I was like, what the fuck are you doing? Get back? 523 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 2: I'm like, Bro, what you mean? Like, Bro, every possession 524 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 2: means something? 525 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:53,119 Speaker 3: I mean from that and that from that day for like, 526 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:54,879 Speaker 3: I had a lot of vets, but you came in 527 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 3: early and taught me how to be a professional, like 528 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:00,640 Speaker 3: how much every possession meant no matter what, and never 529 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 3: to bes around. So you being who you was mister 530 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:06,399 Speaker 3: basketball in LA and going to uh LA and then 531 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:09,400 Speaker 3: leaving it not probably going first round with you thought 532 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 3: like how did you manifest your career to get to 533 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 3: where you wanted to? Like what made you put that 534 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 3: work into it, because you know you was wanting to 535 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 3: start players in high school and all that and then 536 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 3: go to U c. L. A man for me was 537 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 3: just understanding that everybody's journey is different. Uh some people, 538 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:29,959 Speaker 3: some people, you know, get things. 539 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 4: I mean, obviously you don't, nobody's getting anything handed to them, 540 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 4: but people are making decisions on other people and what 541 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:39,159 Speaker 4: they can do. And my job always was to or 542 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 4: mentality was to show people that day really you know, 543 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:44,719 Speaker 4: I'm one of those people that kind of slipped through 544 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 4: the cracks a little bit. So that kept me focused, 545 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:51,439 Speaker 4: That kept me motivated, and I always knew that I 546 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:53,160 Speaker 4: was I felt like I was one of the best 547 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 4: players for what I for what I do around the 548 00:22:57,840 --> 00:22:58,920 Speaker 4: world at the time. 549 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:03,400 Speaker 2: So confidence never was nothing. I'll always bet on myself. 550 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 4: I always did that because I know the type of 551 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 4: work that I was willing to put in and I 552 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:12,120 Speaker 4: knew where I was willing to go to make sure 553 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 4: that winning was the main priority. 554 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, going back to because I think you know, people 555 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 1: consider you in LA basketball legend, but a lot of people, 556 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 1: you know casuals are like, oh, because the one with 557 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:27,359 Speaker 1: the Lakers, But you grew up in LA played for Westchester. Also, 558 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 1: I have a fun story back in two thousand and three, 559 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:33,920 Speaker 1: Westchester came I don't remember this erie, Pennsylvania to play 560 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 1: McDonald's classic and I became friends. I was I was 561 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 1: a freshman. I became friends with Hassan Adams because he 562 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 1: liked my academic sweatsuit and he goes, where'd you get 563 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 1: that here? And I was like, I worded this online. 564 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:46,879 Speaker 1: So Hassan Adams is like asking where to go and 565 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 1: eat when we were there, and so and I got 566 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 1: my Slam magazine signed by you and Hassan and some 567 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 1: other guys in that squad. 568 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 2: Uh, that's crazy. 569 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 1: But that's what I want to talk about. Like Westchester 570 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:58,439 Speaker 1: not only in LA, but you guys were like a 571 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 1: team that was on the map, that putt that like 572 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,160 Speaker 1: Slam talked about like you guys were kind of stars. 573 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 1: So can you talk a little bit about your time 574 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:07,680 Speaker 1: at Westchester? And like the LA basketball. 575 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 4: Scene and Westchester it was for me or for all 576 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 4: of us really it was it was like so they 577 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:18,640 Speaker 4: had like like like a status on you know what 578 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:20,640 Speaker 4: you would do if you if all these games are 579 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 4: on tonight, And it was the Lakers, the Dodgers, the 580 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 4: comments west Chester and then the Clippers and everybody else. 581 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 4: But you know, at that time, it was dope because 582 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,200 Speaker 4: playing with all those players, we competed against each other 583 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:39,440 Speaker 4: every every day to make each other better. Only thing 584 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:42,920 Speaker 4: we really cared about doing was playing basketball. And it 585 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 4: wasn't like how it is now, where you know, you 586 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 4: could just see everybody or know what people are doing. 587 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 4: You actually had to like be there to witness what's 588 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 4: happening at that time. So every game of ours, we 589 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:58,440 Speaker 4: really like brought a lot of people out, brought a 590 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:01,159 Speaker 4: lot of students out of adults, and that kind of 591 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 4: just got us going because we were excited. 592 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, I played west He breaks off of us a 593 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 3: city of poem Dad, Dwayne Polly, That Dwayne Polly, and 594 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 3: the other kid, what's his name, Jordan's Sum he could 595 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 3: shoot Jordan May. He went to Arizona. So yeah, I 596 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 3: was mad about that. I didn't want to tell anybody 597 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 3: about that one. But we always we always whooked. As 598 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 3: in the City of Parts class y'all was nice. Here, 599 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:27,120 Speaker 3: y'all was cold. Uh, so Penny, t Mac, and Kobe 600 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 3: that was your favorite players growing up? 601 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:31,680 Speaker 2: Well? Was it about those players that made you gravitate 602 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:32,200 Speaker 2: to their game? 603 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 4: T Mac just he was He was so smooth with 604 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:39,400 Speaker 4: his game, like that has he poor hang dribble Pool 605 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:43,239 Speaker 4: was I don't know that shit was like opening us 606 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:44,879 Speaker 4: the Bible and watch it but. 607 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 2: Reading. But t Mac was always cold. 608 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:53,399 Speaker 4: Kobe was always a killer, and Penny Hardaway, he was 609 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:56,159 Speaker 4: just like we got the little Penny doll and his 610 00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:00,360 Speaker 4: Their body types are similar similar to mine as well. 611 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:02,680 Speaker 4: So I always kind of just like idolized the way 612 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,200 Speaker 4: that they played and I wanted to figure out how 613 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 4: I can like incorporate the things. 614 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:11,479 Speaker 2: That they did to my game. Yeah, Penny was tough, man. 615 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 2: I just hate he got injured because he was so 616 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 2: tough for real. 617 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the biggest part we all, you know, we 618 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 3: always say like if nobody got injured whatever, But you 619 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 3: could just tell how gifted he was. And I had 620 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 3: the opportunity to see Tam when he's at Mount Zion 621 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:25,440 Speaker 3: for that one year. 622 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:26,680 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and. 623 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:28,680 Speaker 3: I was young, young, like I just was starting to 624 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,680 Speaker 3: figure out what basketball was. And I'm like, damn because 625 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:33,439 Speaker 3: my Zion's one of those schools to go to. 626 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 2: I'm like, damn, you. 627 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 4: Can't also forget like like ninety four, ninety five or whatever, 628 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 4: like when he was when Penny played for the Magic 629 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:46,479 Speaker 4: and they were playing against Jordan the Bulls. 630 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:49,680 Speaker 2: He was low key better than Jordan's in that series. 631 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 3: You know, I watched, I watched, I watched YouTube highlight, 632 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:54,680 Speaker 3: so like me, I'm big on, like I watched basketball 633 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,400 Speaker 3: all day women. Boys, I'm on YouTube so I can 634 00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 3: see like how great they was. 635 00:26:58,600 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 2: You know. 636 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 3: It's not the same as going to get when I 637 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 3: was too young to understand, but I just wanted to 638 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:04,480 Speaker 3: see like how gifted he was. And I was like, 639 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:09,120 Speaker 3: damn yeah, very creative man, a player before it's time. 640 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 1: Trevor, you talked about that order where you were saying Lakers, Dodgers, 641 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:17,640 Speaker 1: Westchester Clippers. You actually had an interesting tie that I've 642 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 1: heard the story a couple of times, but I had 643 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 1: some follo up questions that you know, everyone knows, you know, 644 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:25,439 Speaker 1: Q Rich and d Miles with the two taps, apparently 645 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:27,280 Speaker 1: you know the origin was was they were coming to 646 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 1: watch you guys. Can you give a little bit of 647 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:30,160 Speaker 1: explanation or backstory? 648 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:30,399 Speaker 2: On that. 649 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:34,960 Speaker 4: So, uh well, when we were in high school, uh, 650 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 4: we used to would anybody do like a crazy play 651 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 4: or hassan or somebody thrown off the backboard to sign 652 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 4: and hill dunkyt or somebody hit a deep three, and 653 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:48,680 Speaker 4: we'll just turn to each other and just like tap 654 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:50,919 Speaker 4: our head, like knuckle up, like get ready for war 655 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 4: because it's you know it's going down. 656 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 2: You know who's in the trenches. But we're always in 657 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:58,919 Speaker 2: the trenches together, so you know, we just left with up. 658 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,399 Speaker 1: And so the the Clippers were in the crowd, they 659 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:02,720 Speaker 1: had saw that, and then that made it to the 660 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 1: well we know it as. 661 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 4: Well when they got when the Miles and uh in Q, 662 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 4: when they all got drafted, they were still really young. Yeah, 663 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:13,640 Speaker 4: you know the Miles was still he was a year 664 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:15,639 Speaker 4: removed from high school, so you know they took him 665 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 4: as a high school to my school or at Westchester. 666 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 4: We were known for having like a lot of pretty 667 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:24,960 Speaker 4: girls at the time. It was just one of the 668 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:28,439 Speaker 4: schools to go to. So everybody just and we had 669 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 4: a good basketball team, so everybody just liked to be 670 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 4: around you know that way. Gravitate to it. 671 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 3: You got to, Yeah, that gotta be dope though, having 672 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 3: two professional teams like in a major city like that, 673 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 3: you don't mean like playing because me being from North Carolina, 674 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 3: we and rally like we got like Durren Bulls up 675 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 3: the street like the Carolina Hurricanes. Like for us, we 676 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 3: would go see like n C State Carolina Duke. 677 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:52,719 Speaker 2: So that was us. 678 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 3: I like being like like being in a major shit 679 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 3: like that, being a dope program school like you said, 680 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 3: girls basketball Star Arts and then you got the NBA 681 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 3: teams right here and the baseball team come see and support. 682 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 2: I know that had to be dope, all right. 683 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 4: It's it's a gift and a curse too, because you 684 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 4: get Jada to a lot of things. We're here Hollywood, 685 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 4: the pretty the beautiful sun, the palm trees, the beach. 686 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 2: You could get Jaden. You know everybody is in La. 687 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 4: So you come here and you whether across your favorite 688 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 4: actress or you know, musician. But then you still got 689 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 4: to go on about your day and do what you 690 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 4: gotta do. So if you figure out a way to 691 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 4: like make it here in La, I feel I feel 692 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 4: like you fitting anywhere. 693 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. 694 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 3: That's why I'll be saying sometimes because I'd be like 695 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 3: I'm glad I'm from North Carolina because I ain't have 696 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 3: to exposure to a lot of stuff, you know. I mean, 697 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 3: like these kids now get so much exposured so much, 698 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 3: and I'm like, imagine being from New York. You got 699 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 3: jay z a Rod coming to your games. I'm like, 700 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 3: I'm trying to ride and cross with them and go 701 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 3: buy a chain and do something like that. Like I 702 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 3: just I wish I had it, but I'm glad I didn't. 703 00:29:58,360 --> 00:29:59,479 Speaker 3: So I know it could be tough for a lot 704 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 3: of these kids out with all the exposure access they 705 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 3: get in nowadays. 706 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you got to keep them grounded, man, You 707 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 4: got to give them. I mean, as adults, we have, 708 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 4: you know, vices and things that we pick up. So 709 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:16,240 Speaker 4: just imagine a kid that people know that everything is 710 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 4: coming to them at one time. That's that's a lot. 711 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 4: So being able to, like say, balance is a It's 712 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 4: a key factor in moving forward. 713 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 3: Yet, so I heard you speak, is what Kobe means 714 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 3: to you? You said, Kobe Vauschker, you become the start 715 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 3: in this league and he believed in you. How did 716 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 3: that make you feel? 717 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 2: You know what I mean? 718 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 3: Because you watched him, you looked up to Cobe and 719 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 3: have an opportunity to compete against him and just playing 720 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 3: with him. 721 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 4: I mean that that that shot my confidence through the roof. 722 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 4: When I got traded to LA, I was coming from 723 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 4: Orlando where I really wasn't playing a lot, you know, 724 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 4: And it wasn't because I wasn't, you know, as good 725 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 4: or whatever. It's just it wasn't The style of play 726 00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:58,960 Speaker 4: didn't fit the way that I played. So when I 727 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 4: got to LA, we had a couple of practices or whatever, 728 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 4: just just me as an competitor. He seemed to like 729 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 4: gravitate towards that. I would guard him every day. He'll 730 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 4: he'll meet me at the gym, Like he would never 731 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 4: beat me there, he will always meet me there. So 732 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 4: I think he took a liking to that, and you know, 733 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 4: knowing that I will put in that type of work, 734 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:28,480 Speaker 4: it was only natural that he saw a fit for 735 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 4: our personalities to kind of mess together because he was 736 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 4: a worker. 737 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:37,520 Speaker 3: I didn't feel win the championship being in l A. 738 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 3: I know that had to be fire being back home 739 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:43,719 Speaker 3: playing for you me a team. You probably watched him 740 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:45,880 Speaker 3: growing up in winning championship. 741 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 4: For him, like, yeah, that was crazy because again winning 742 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 4: out I won at Westchester a lot, but to win 743 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:57,480 Speaker 4: for the Lakers, man they blocked figure roll off. You see, 744 00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:00,720 Speaker 4: like all the people coming out to watch our bus 745 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 4: just go to the to the coliseum and then getting 746 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 4: in the coliseum and like when they call your name 747 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 4: to announce you because you know you want and everybody 748 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 4: chanting your name, that ship is unbelievable. 749 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 2: Like that was the best moment that. 750 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:20,080 Speaker 4: I think they gotta be surreal or winning a championship 751 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 4: here just in the arena, just hearing the people like 752 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 4: screwing your name. 753 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 1: It's crazy talk talking about Kobe and everyone has a 754 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 1: story about you know, how mentally tough he was. I 755 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:31,680 Speaker 1: and tell me if I'm correct here, I feel like 756 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 1: it was he's underrating how funny he was cause you 757 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 1: shared a I think on his birthday last year, you 758 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 1: shared a text exchange where you you sent him a 759 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:44,480 Speaker 1: picture where he was shooting over a triple team and 760 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:48,640 Speaker 1: then he responded that means that it's an easy putback 761 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 1: for if I missed the shot. 762 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,480 Speaker 4: The funny part about that is he was serious. 763 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 2: That's what made it so funny. He wasn't fucking around. 764 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:57,080 Speaker 2: He was dead serious. 765 00:32:57,560 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 1: Gotcha. 766 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 4: I think that was preseason two. That was a preseason game. 767 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 1: That's crazy. Do you have any other you know, any 768 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 1: other like crazy Kobe stories or I mean you got 769 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 1: to play with them in a championship year, any any 770 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:18,840 Speaker 1: stories that stick with you? 771 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 4: Uh Well, something that I could share probably would be 772 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 4: we played in Golden State one time and he had 773 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 4: strained his his adaptor or something, and you know that 774 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 4: shit was like throbbing. He couldn't really like go like 775 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 4: side to side, it goes straight or backwards. But I 776 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 4: think he strained like the second quarter. By the time 777 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,160 Speaker 4: the fourth quarter was over, he finished with forty four. 778 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:45,920 Speaker 2: So like. 779 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 4: He could like he could trick his mind into like 780 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 4: doing things that his body couldn't do, uh physically, but 781 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 4: somehow he was still able to get it done because 782 00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 4: of how strong his mental was. And seeing something like that, 783 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 4: then getting the opportunity to go play like with other 784 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:12,319 Speaker 4: like talents, that's kind of like how like I'll be 785 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,960 Speaker 4: able to like push somebody like John or push somebody 786 00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:19,360 Speaker 4: like Brad to be what they're going to be because 787 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 4: I know, because I've seen it personally, that there's another 788 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:25,279 Speaker 4: level that you can go to mentally, and if you 789 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:28,040 Speaker 4: can go through mentally something like that with the talent 790 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,799 Speaker 4: that that you know, some of these dudes got the 791 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 4: talent that John had, Nobody could fuck with him. So 792 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:38,439 Speaker 4: that's as a teammate, That's something that I always wanted 793 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:42,000 Speaker 4: to be able to do with special players is continue 794 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,920 Speaker 4: to feed you know that ego, feed things that they 795 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 4: need to be great. 796 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:49,279 Speaker 3: So you are dad at three ties, Trisian and tailor. Yeah, 797 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:52,439 Speaker 3: I know that gotta be amazing. So I see your son. 798 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:54,239 Speaker 3: Tis he a five star guard? You know, I mean 799 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:57,439 Speaker 3: straight hooper. Yeah, how you've very balancing been a dad 800 00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:59,560 Speaker 3: being and also been a mentor and giving him the 801 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:02,560 Speaker 3: real tough and that it isn't counter on the court. 802 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:07,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's a It's a tough balance because every 803 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:10,480 Speaker 4: you don't want to hear somebody's voice every day all 804 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,160 Speaker 4: day long. So like I got to pick and choose 805 00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:18,919 Speaker 4: when to like be the mentor or to critique his game, 806 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,759 Speaker 4: and when to be bad. So like when he not 807 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:25,200 Speaker 4: when his room's dirty or something and it's ship to 808 00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:27,160 Speaker 4: do in the house that he didn't do, I gotta 809 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:30,160 Speaker 4: be dad. So I kind of like ease off the 810 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:33,799 Speaker 4: the basketball. But when everything is intagging order here at 811 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,319 Speaker 4: the house. He has a pretty good routine. Then I 812 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:39,719 Speaker 4: can like like critique his game or like give him 813 00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,279 Speaker 4: a little hint or little pointers on things he can 814 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,040 Speaker 4: do to just become a better player. 815 00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, and another one, I like, how hard is it? 816 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:49,000 Speaker 3: Because like I'm going with my kids super too young, 817 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:52,120 Speaker 3: they play soccer, but like how do you figure out? 818 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 3: Like you know, like I always say, parents sometimes forced 819 00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:56,480 Speaker 3: the kid to play a sport because they played it, 820 00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:58,800 Speaker 3: but you just let them fall in love with you 821 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:00,360 Speaker 3: know what I mean? Do they want to do this routine? 822 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,520 Speaker 3: Do you not want to do this routine? Like how 823 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:04,359 Speaker 3: great do you want to be? Like, because you've been there, 824 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,040 Speaker 3: You've done it now, I don't have to force you. 825 00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:08,440 Speaker 3: I want to see if you really want to get 826 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:12,239 Speaker 3: there exactly. So what I did was up until the 827 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,160 Speaker 3: eighth grade is or the summer. The eighth grade is 828 00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:19,200 Speaker 3: when like we decide on if this is something that 829 00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:22,799 Speaker 3: you want to do or try something else, because you'll 830 00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:29,440 Speaker 3: see kids be like super nice from like the fourth, fifth, third, fourth, fifth, sixth, seventh, 831 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:32,520 Speaker 3: eighth grade, right, and then they'll get to high school 832 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 3: and kind of like everybody will catch up to them. 833 00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:40,359 Speaker 3: So my idea was all right, let me just let 834 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:43,840 Speaker 3: you naturally do whatever it is you can do, and 835 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:45,880 Speaker 3: whatever it is that you can do, I'm gonna watch 836 00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,880 Speaker 3: and then when we get when it gets time to 837 00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:52,680 Speaker 3: that it matters, or like when it gets closer to 838 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:56,160 Speaker 3: things that you really would need, then if you want it, 839 00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:58,440 Speaker 3: you're gonna show me that you want it, because you're 840 00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:00,840 Speaker 3: gonna ask for Like even now, like Tristan. 841 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:02,320 Speaker 2: Tristan is in the seventh grade. 842 00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:05,840 Speaker 4: Every day he's hitting me up about going to workout 843 00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,840 Speaker 4: or going to the gym or running or doing something. 844 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:11,520 Speaker 2: You always got a ball in his hands. 845 00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:14,600 Speaker 4: But that's the hunger and the type of like mentality 846 00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:17,799 Speaker 4: that I think that you need because you don't want 847 00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:19,719 Speaker 4: to They play so many games in the summer time, 848 00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:20,919 Speaker 4: you don't really want to burn them out. 849 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,839 Speaker 3: So you got to actually love this shit to want 850 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,200 Speaker 3: to do it. Yeah, be cause we playing AU. We 851 00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:28,719 Speaker 3: was playing three games Friday, three games Saturday. 852 00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:31,960 Speaker 2: I'm damn yeah. 853 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,120 Speaker 3: It's now like you said that, Like nowadays, kids don't 854 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:36,120 Speaker 3: even want to play AU as much. 855 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:37,880 Speaker 2: They want to just work out, workout, workout. 856 00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:40,440 Speaker 3: Sometimes I get it, but you got to play a 857 00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:43,319 Speaker 3: little bit to see where your game stack up against what. 858 00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:46,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's dope. That's a good mindset to have. Plus 859 00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,920 Speaker 4: I also they grew up different than the way that 860 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:52,560 Speaker 4: I grew up, So I kind of like I give 861 00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:54,520 Speaker 4: them things that they got to figure out on their own. 862 00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:56,880 Speaker 4: Like this morning, figure out how to get to school. 863 00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,160 Speaker 4: I'm not taking you to school. Nobody's taking you to school. 864 00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:01,960 Speaker 4: Figure it out out because in life, you got to 865 00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,919 Speaker 4: figure things out yourself, and nobody's going to be there 866 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,719 Speaker 4: to figure it out for you. So I try to 867 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:13,640 Speaker 4: like put lessons of life into two to like their 868 00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:15,279 Speaker 4: age bracket and things that they can do. 869 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:20,239 Speaker 1: Trevor, I saw that actually your son is transferring to Westchester. 870 00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:23,120 Speaker 1: What does that mean to you? How much does that 871 00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:26,120 Speaker 1: mean to you? You know what that news? 872 00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:32,279 Speaker 4: It's like it's full circle. Really it's cool for me because, uh, 873 00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,600 Speaker 4: it's almost like I kind of hold a controller a 874 00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:41,200 Speaker 4: little bit, be like myself, but you know, the decisions 875 00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:43,440 Speaker 4: of school are all his and what he what he 876 00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:47,960 Speaker 4: really wants or what he would feel comfortable. So I 877 00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:51,239 Speaker 4: get to like literally sit back and just watch my 878 00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,920 Speaker 4: younger self play at my whole high school again. 879 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:57,279 Speaker 2: It's it's really weird. It's dope. I know that got 880 00:38:57,400 --> 00:38:58,759 Speaker 2: I know you can't wait to see that and see 881 00:38:58,760 --> 00:38:59,480 Speaker 2: the flashbacks. 882 00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:03,640 Speaker 4: I'm excited, like even going up to the school, Like 883 00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:05,360 Speaker 4: when I when I have to go up to the school, 884 00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:08,319 Speaker 4: it feels like it feels good to be there. So 885 00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:10,520 Speaker 4: I'm excited for him. 886 00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:14,240 Speaker 1: That's great. And am I correct and saying that Arkansas 887 00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:16,160 Speaker 1: was looking at him? So me and John were just 888 00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:20,560 Speaker 1: talking about how Kyle was there, how serious is he 889 00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:23,319 Speaker 1: about you know, the schools that are approaching him, and 890 00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:25,839 Speaker 1: does he have any colleges that he's he's really liking 891 00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:26,319 Speaker 1: right now? 892 00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:30,439 Speaker 4: Well, right now he's really just focused on like how 893 00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:32,759 Speaker 4: good he can get. Yeah, And that's what ill, That's 894 00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:34,560 Speaker 4: what I try to tell him. Just keep your head 895 00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:38,400 Speaker 4: down and just focus on the work, focus on your school, 896 00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:42,160 Speaker 4: focus on basketball. When the time comes for you to 897 00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:44,480 Speaker 4: figure out where you want to go or what makes 898 00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:48,200 Speaker 4: sense for you, then we start you know, talking about 899 00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:51,440 Speaker 4: it or or like really really really starting to focus in. 900 00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:55,600 Speaker 4: But for now, I want you to like see how 901 00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:57,560 Speaker 4: hard you can grind, how many days you can stack 902 00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:00,520 Speaker 4: together on being as good as you can be. And 903 00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:04,160 Speaker 4: that's what that's really where his focus is been, just 904 00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:04,879 Speaker 4: just in the work. 905 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,120 Speaker 3: How do you feel about high school kids getting I 906 00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:09,880 Speaker 3: l because now you got your son is in that 907 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,160 Speaker 3: process where he can you know what I mean, potentially 908 00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,080 Speaker 3: if you want to take in I deals and do it, Like, 909 00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:15,719 Speaker 3: how do you feel about it? 910 00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:20,600 Speaker 4: Uh? How do I feel about it? I don't know 911 00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:23,399 Speaker 4: if this is something that's not never been there. It's 912 00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:26,399 Speaker 4: just they got a name for it now. Yeah, for sure, 913 00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:27,799 Speaker 4: on thousand percent we all know. 914 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:32,640 Speaker 2: They just shot. It's more like, yeah, it's cool to 915 00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:33,319 Speaker 2: do that. Yeah. 916 00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:35,360 Speaker 4: I mean they was gonna figure out a way to 917 00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:37,800 Speaker 4: get it done anyway. But I mean, I think it's cool. 918 00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,839 Speaker 4: A lot of a lot of people get an opportunity 919 00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:45,320 Speaker 4: to to you know, help themselves and help their families, 920 00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:48,799 Speaker 4: and you know that's that's a beautiful thing. We all 921 00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:51,160 Speaker 4: go to school to get a better education so that 922 00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:55,360 Speaker 4: we can port support our families better. I think that 923 00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:59,719 Speaker 4: is cool that amateurs get the opportunity to do the 924 00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:00,200 Speaker 4: same thing. 925 00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:01,319 Speaker 2: Yeah. 926 00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:04,879 Speaker 3: I just think it's dope. Like you've been a father, 927 00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:06,560 Speaker 3: figured that's their hands on you know what I mean. 928 00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:09,000 Speaker 3: But you're letting your kids make the decision, but you 929 00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:11,040 Speaker 3: also can guide them through it. Because sometimes I think 930 00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:13,520 Speaker 3: it's great that these people can take care of their families, 931 00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:16,479 Speaker 3: but sometimes they take it the wrong way. Yeah, for sure, 932 00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:17,920 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. And that's the good. I 933 00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:19,480 Speaker 3: think that's the only thing out that wor me about it. 934 00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:21,160 Speaker 3: I'm glad they can get paid and take care because 935 00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:22,840 Speaker 3: I think we should have been doing it. Like you said, 936 00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:24,719 Speaker 3: it's been going on, but now they just find a 937 00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:26,480 Speaker 3: way to make it the right way. But I just 938 00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:28,799 Speaker 3: hope the parents don't take it too far and the 939 00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:31,480 Speaker 3: wrong way to mess their kid up from trying to 940 00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:32,680 Speaker 3: get to where they really want to get to. 941 00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:36,560 Speaker 4: Another thing is probably just order trying to because once 942 00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:39,120 Speaker 4: a kid gets money and kind of and the family 943 00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:42,120 Speaker 4: doesn't have much, it changes like the natural order of 944 00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:44,719 Speaker 4: the way things supposed to be. You know, the kid 945 00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,839 Speaker 4: now becomes ahead of the household, and you know there's 946 00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:50,440 Speaker 4: like a little some sort of power struggle. 947 00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:52,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. 948 00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:56,960 Speaker 4: But if like we can like figure things, figure that 949 00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:00,560 Speaker 4: part out, I think I think things would be better 950 00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:01,799 Speaker 4: on like in the long run. 951 00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:04,680 Speaker 1: Trevor talked more about your NBA career. I was actually 952 00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:08,239 Speaker 1: watching back some highlights and I don't know, people talk 953 00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:10,600 Speaker 1: about this dunk enough, but when you're on the necks 954 00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:15,640 Speaker 1: and you dunked on Ben Wallace. That was an insane dunk. 955 00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:17,200 Speaker 1: Can you talk a little bit about that dunk and 956 00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:19,720 Speaker 1: maybe tell us your favorite highlight of your career? 957 00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:23,759 Speaker 4: Oh, man, let me see Duncan on bell Ben ben 958 00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:27,360 Speaker 4: Wallace was they just won the championship right the year before, 959 00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,799 Speaker 4: Defensive player of the Year. He's been the defensive player 960 00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:32,960 Speaker 4: of the year the whole time. We getting drugged at 961 00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:38,680 Speaker 4: the time, I think we were getting popped, but NBA 962 00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:41,040 Speaker 4: was a little bit different. So I caught the ball 963 00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:43,960 Speaker 4: I think like fifteen feet out, did a little pump fake. 964 00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:47,360 Speaker 4: She did like a little swipe by I get on 965 00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:52,160 Speaker 4: my little launching pad and that was it. You found 966 00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:53,719 Speaker 4: the shit out of me two by the way he 967 00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:57,799 Speaker 4: slapped all in my face. But that was crazy though. 968 00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:01,160 Speaker 4: That was That was probably one of the craziest moments 969 00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:01,720 Speaker 4: of my career. 970 00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:05,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, any other any other dunks or highlights or even 971 00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:07,480 Speaker 1: just you know plays that come to mind when people 972 00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:11,000 Speaker 1: talk to you about, you know what with you. 973 00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:13,520 Speaker 4: I think I played Orlando one time and I don't 974 00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:15,560 Speaker 4: thought that Donald Foyle that was pretty bad. 975 00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:17,040 Speaker 2: I don't. 976 00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:20,120 Speaker 4: I never see that one though, but that one was crazy. 977 00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:22,600 Speaker 4: And then the one on Chris Kman when I played 978 00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:26,279 Speaker 4: in Houston. Yeah, with the Clippers that it was crazy. 979 00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:28,799 Speaker 4: They might they might have taken that YouTube best. Well 980 00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:30,040 Speaker 4: they're so old man. 981 00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:34,080 Speaker 3: And back then you dunk a bit wild like that 982 00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:35,879 Speaker 3: and got foul like that, you might get a flake 983 00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:36,399 Speaker 3: on one of two. 984 00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:38,680 Speaker 2: Nowadays, yeah, it might be out. 985 00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:41,560 Speaker 3: That's of course I want to act like because you 986 00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:44,200 Speaker 3: played in different areas where like you could be physical 987 00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:46,880 Speaker 3: to now you can barely touch anybody, and you've been 988 00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:51,000 Speaker 3: a great defender like that. Was that a hard adjustment 989 00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:52,440 Speaker 3: to make because you could be physical, you know, I 990 00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:54,279 Speaker 3: mean you could bump across the lane back in the day. 991 00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:57,480 Speaker 3: Now you can barely breathe on anybody, and it's hard 992 00:43:57,520 --> 00:43:57,879 Speaker 3: to guard. 993 00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:00,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, you just got to figure out way used to 994 00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:04,000 Speaker 4: be who you are within the rules. So, like you said, 995 00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:07,840 Speaker 4: when I first got into the NBA, if somebody came 996 00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:09,840 Speaker 4: through the paint and you didn't touch them, you was 997 00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:13,279 Speaker 4: coming out like you gotta check people coming through the paint. 998 00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:16,000 Speaker 4: So once the moots got a little bit different, you 999 00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:19,840 Speaker 4: found different like mentalities or different like techniques or different 1000 00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:24,000 Speaker 4: ways to approach the situation. So like, for me, let's 1001 00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:27,160 Speaker 4: say you are under like you said a La pat 1002 00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:30,640 Speaker 4: right and your man going the front side instead of 1003 00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:33,400 Speaker 4: the backside, and I'm at the nail. I'm gonna check you. 1004 00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:36,839 Speaker 4: Why because you can't. I just can't let you get 1005 00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:38,880 Speaker 4: a free run at the basket. 1006 00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:39,440 Speaker 2: That's of it. 1007 00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:43,360 Speaker 4: You know, if you get that man later on, the 1008 00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:45,840 Speaker 4: referees might call foul if I don't check you earlier 1009 00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:48,840 Speaker 4: in the game. So really it's about setting the tone 1010 00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:53,240 Speaker 4: and being true to who we were within the roots. 1011 00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:56,360 Speaker 4: I still think there's some sort of physicality, it's just 1012 00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:59,440 Speaker 4: it just looks different. So instead of like giving like 1013 00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:04,320 Speaker 4: a forearm or some like body checking him. Yeah, so 1014 00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:07,879 Speaker 4: it's a little different. It's the same, but it's different. Yeah, 1015 00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:10,120 Speaker 4: min learn new techniques for sure. 1016 00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:13,000 Speaker 1: Like you said, you guys talk about the new NBA. 1017 00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:15,720 Speaker 1: But I saw this meme today that it showed Rondo 1018 00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:18,759 Speaker 1: wearing Lebron's and it's like, this is how crazy Lebron's 1019 00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:22,880 Speaker 1: sort of time has been that players who've since retired 1020 00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:26,600 Speaker 1: were rocking his signature shoes. Now, I know one of 1021 00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:30,760 Speaker 1: Lebron's biggest high school games Trevor was against west Chester. 1022 00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:33,960 Speaker 1: Can you and you've played against him, you've been on 1023 00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:35,600 Speaker 1: part of his team. Can you just talk a little 1024 00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:38,360 Speaker 1: bit about on Lebron, like seeing him and playing against 1025 00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:40,400 Speaker 1: him in high school and then also playing against him 1026 00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:41,440 Speaker 1: and playing with him in the NBA. 1027 00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:44,560 Speaker 4: Man, he's pretty much the same thing. It's no difference 1028 00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:49,239 Speaker 4: to me. He's for like my age group or whatever. 1029 00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:53,600 Speaker 4: He's been the best player since fifteen years old until forty. 1030 00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:59,240 Speaker 4: So only other person who could say that really probably 1031 00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:01,680 Speaker 4: is Kareem that he's been the best player since he 1032 00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:05,879 Speaker 4: was fifteen up until you forty and Brian is still going. 1033 00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:13,840 Speaker 4: So the things that he's done, his accomplishments, he's like 1034 00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:18,600 Speaker 4: surpassed expectations, Like I don't think that we've ever seen 1035 00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:21,720 Speaker 4: in the game before. Well, we definitely haven't seen it before. 1036 00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:26,360 Speaker 4: When you're playing or when you're like have to compete 1037 00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:29,200 Speaker 4: against those guys, you don't. I mean, obviously you let 1038 00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:31,719 Speaker 4: them know you have respect for them, but you never 1039 00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:34,640 Speaker 4: because you still have to compete. So any slight type 1040 00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:40,879 Speaker 4: of edge that players like that can get, they'll take us. 1041 00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:44,440 Speaker 4: So like, yeah, throughout my time or throughout my career, 1042 00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:47,200 Speaker 4: I don't want to give nobody an edge because I'm 1043 00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:51,960 Speaker 4: already guarding the toughest players every single night. So yeah, 1044 00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:55,600 Speaker 4: I'd rather make my job as easy as I can 1045 00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:58,560 Speaker 4: make it and a certain extent. 1046 00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:00,840 Speaker 3: Take it away from basketball, not how much of kids 1047 00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:03,279 Speaker 3: mean to you, Like what the what's the best moment 1048 00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:04,040 Speaker 3: about being a girl? 1049 00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:11,440 Speaker 2: Dad? Man? You have to be completely different with girls 1050 00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:12,239 Speaker 2: and boys. 1051 00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:15,440 Speaker 4: You know, I can cust my sons out or whatever, 1052 00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:17,520 Speaker 4: you know, and to my daughter look at me while 1053 00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:20,600 Speaker 4: I'm cussing them about and then like I just turned 1054 00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:23,719 Speaker 4: in the mush because she wants me to, like, you know, 1055 00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:27,200 Speaker 4: pipe down a little bit. So it's weird, but you know, 1056 00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:31,040 Speaker 4: I also have to you know, pick and choose when 1057 00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:33,680 Speaker 4: to be firm with her as well too, because just 1058 00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:38,439 Speaker 4: because you know they're different, the obstacle is still gonna 1059 00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:42,600 Speaker 4: be the same as the growth. So just having that 1060 00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:47,040 Speaker 4: balance of knowing when to ease up and when to 1061 00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:51,480 Speaker 4: h lay it on it, Yeah, you gotta find that. 1062 00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:53,719 Speaker 3: They say, they say girls make your soft, so I 1063 00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:55,480 Speaker 3: had to ask me, I mean, because I ain't got one, 1064 00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:57,000 Speaker 3: but that's one of my goals in the future. 1065 00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:00,399 Speaker 2: Girl, and everybody's gonna make you off. 1066 00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:03,200 Speaker 4: I'm like, bro, uh, yeah, it's gonna make you look 1067 00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:05,799 Speaker 4: at things a lot different, like everything, you. 1068 00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:13,440 Speaker 3: Know, like, oh, for sure, that was a that's what 1069 00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:15,400 Speaker 3: we need, though sometimes we do need to give us 1070 00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:16,040 Speaker 3: a chill peel. 1071 00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:19,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, Trevor, you played for a lot of 1072 00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:22,360 Speaker 1: NBA teams, and so I wanted to know what was 1073 00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:24,680 Speaker 1: your Do you have a favorite team or favorite city 1074 00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:25,440 Speaker 1: you'd like to live in. 1075 00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:29,040 Speaker 4: I got a few, And since I played for a 1076 00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:31,600 Speaker 4: few places, I get the luxury of saying that I 1077 00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:33,840 Speaker 4: got a few places that are like, you know, my 1078 00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:40,239 Speaker 4: favorite Houston obviously playing home, d C and Miami, those 1079 00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:42,000 Speaker 4: were my favorite places to play in. 1080 00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:46,239 Speaker 1: And what what what is it about that environment in 1081 00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:46,880 Speaker 1: those cities? 1082 00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:52,120 Speaker 2: Like, uh, Well, in d C, it was the team 1083 00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:53,320 Speaker 2: that I enjoyed the most. 1084 00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:56,759 Speaker 4: The team was more like I think that's the closest 1085 00:48:56,840 --> 00:49:01,400 Speaker 4: that I was with, uh what like the full team? 1086 00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:04,759 Speaker 4: You know, like you have players that you fucked with 1087 00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:07,319 Speaker 4: from other places or people that you know prior to 1088 00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:10,360 Speaker 4: being in the NBA that you just are cool like that. 1089 00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:14,600 Speaker 4: But when I was in DC, like the environment or 1090 00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:18,480 Speaker 4: the locker room, I should say we John and them 1091 00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:22,080 Speaker 4: did a really good job of making sure everybody felt 1092 00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:25,719 Speaker 4: at home. That's the only way you go from being 1093 00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:28,560 Speaker 4: that sorry to like turning around and being that good. 1094 00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:31,360 Speaker 4: You got to feel comfortable, you gotta feel safe, and 1095 00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:33,360 Speaker 4: you got to know that your teammates are going to 1096 00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:35,800 Speaker 4: be there and what they're gonna do. So it's almost 1097 00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:38,120 Speaker 4: like when we were in When I was in d C, 1098 00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:41,640 Speaker 4: everybody just knew what to do from like just the 1099 00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:46,680 Speaker 4: system and the tendencies that each player had. But playing 1100 00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:49,640 Speaker 4: in La, that's home, so you know, I was used 1101 00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:51,920 Speaker 4: to that. I get to go home to you know, 1102 00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:55,120 Speaker 4: my brothers here, and my mom's here, all my friends. 1103 00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:58,920 Speaker 2: So if I ever got like uncomfortable. 1104 00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:03,680 Speaker 4: Or then, or and feel like being around my teammates, 1105 00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:04,880 Speaker 4: I'm right here. 1106 00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:09,560 Speaker 2: In Miami. You got beach, you got every day that 1107 00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:11,200 Speaker 2: you wo in Miami. 1108 00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:13,839 Speaker 3: Bro, we was it was just like for me like 1109 00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:16,520 Speaker 3: he said, like when I first got to it was, 1110 00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:18,359 Speaker 3: we wasn't good and we were trying to figure out 1111 00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:21,680 Speaker 3: everything and moving veterans around. So when we traded for 1112 00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:24,520 Speaker 3: the veterans we got and then Trail came around, we 1113 00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:26,600 Speaker 3: got other more veterans. He just made it better because 1114 00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:28,560 Speaker 3: he knew how to be a pro. He made us 1115 00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:30,680 Speaker 3: learn to be better pros. But we just like you said, 1116 00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:32,759 Speaker 3: we did team dinners, We go movies, We were doing 1117 00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:34,719 Speaker 3: all this together, and that's how you be your camaraderie. 1118 00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:37,200 Speaker 3: But we felt like we didn't get we just one 1119 00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:39,200 Speaker 3: piece of Like we could over the pace, we couldn't 1120 00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:40,600 Speaker 3: get over the hump, you know, because I was still 1121 00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:43,319 Speaker 3: figuring out how to be a master of the mid range. 1122 00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:46,000 Speaker 3: And they did a great thing game plan and then 1123 00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:47,960 Speaker 3: we gave away leads that we didn't know how to 1124 00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:50,000 Speaker 3: close him out at the time. But we feel like 1125 00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:52,120 Speaker 3: we matched up with him because we had traveled gard 1126 00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:53,880 Speaker 3: Le Bron. Like, we're not saying nobody's gonna stop it, 1127 00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:56,640 Speaker 3: but Bron couldn't help off as much as you wanted to, 1128 00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:59,280 Speaker 3: cause trails knocked down Shooter and a lot of teams 1129 00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:02,320 Speaker 3: if you didn't have Bron is Roaman and you in trouble. 1130 00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:04,640 Speaker 3: So we just felt we matched up with him. 1131 00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:10,840 Speaker 4: Yeahs like and he closed out hardest ship. 1132 00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:13,239 Speaker 2: That's I think that's the underrated part of him. No, 1133 00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:17,319 Speaker 2: seriously though, Like he'll be in the paint head on 1134 00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:21,279 Speaker 2: the rim to clog up the paint so you kick 1135 00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:24,040 Speaker 2: that ball out. He's in a full on sprint to 1136 00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:27,360 Speaker 2: get to wherever his man is to close out. And 1137 00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:29,719 Speaker 2: like when your best players are doing things like that 1138 00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:33,920 Speaker 2: everybody else falls in line, like everybody else falls in line. 1139 00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:37,560 Speaker 2: So yeah, he just I don't know, that's how good 1140 00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:37,840 Speaker 2: he is. 1141 00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:41,040 Speaker 4: He's so good at other things that things that are 1142 00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:45,760 Speaker 4: smart you don't even realize like how important they are, 1143 00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:48,759 Speaker 4: and you went't pay attention. But he had good Yeah, 1144 00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:50,840 Speaker 4: he had good coach. He learning from an early age 1145 00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:53,959 Speaker 4: that all even the little things go a long way. 1146 00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:57,960 Speaker 1: Well, I was curious because you know with both you 1147 00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:00,359 Speaker 1: guys like you know, most of your life if your 1148 00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:02,960 Speaker 1: goal is to make it to the NBA, so you 1149 00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:06,120 Speaker 1: made it to the NBA, and Trevor, we have so 1150 00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:09,279 Speaker 1: much life left, you know, So what's like a new 1151 00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:11,400 Speaker 1: goal that you're sort of chasing in this phase of 1152 00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:12,800 Speaker 1: your career? Her life? 1153 00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:19,840 Speaker 4: You wanted, well, obviously to see my kids, you know, 1154 00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:23,440 Speaker 4: be an everyday father. That that was one of my goals. 1155 00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:28,359 Speaker 4: But outside of like things that are serious or things 1156 00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:30,359 Speaker 4: that I have to do, I like to travel. So 1157 00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:33,440 Speaker 4: my goal is to see as many places and get 1158 00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:35,719 Speaker 4: to as many countries as I can get to, just 1159 00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:39,359 Speaker 4: to see like how they live, things that they do. 1160 00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:42,640 Speaker 3: Now for me, like you said, like just we travel 1161 00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:45,640 Speaker 3: so much as were playing, not with our kids as much, 1162 00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:47,960 Speaker 3: you know. I mean our family is basically our team. 1163 00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:51,640 Speaker 3: Spend so many days with them. Just seeing my kids 1164 00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:53,160 Speaker 3: go to school every day, pick them up, take me 1165 00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:57,480 Speaker 3: the practice. For me, just investing, find other things to 1166 00:52:57,600 --> 00:52:59,360 Speaker 3: keep my mind. Go and continue to work out to 1167 00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:01,800 Speaker 3: stay in shape, for sure. But I didn't travel a 1168 00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:03,360 Speaker 3: lot when I played, so like for me now, like 1169 00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:06,239 Speaker 3: I'm traveling, I want to see the world. I ain't 1170 00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:08,240 Speaker 3: travel as much when I play. Everybody while you don't travel, 1171 00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:10,040 Speaker 3: I'm like I do on a motive. But we don't 1172 00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:12,440 Speaker 3: never know when our time can end, so go I 1173 00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:14,880 Speaker 3: take full advantage of it. But like you said, just 1174 00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:16,440 Speaker 3: being able to see your kids bro take them to 1175 00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:18,879 Speaker 3: school and smiling their faces for me as a siting. 1176 00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:21,279 Speaker 3: For him, I know, it's even more exciting because he 1177 00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:23,520 Speaker 3: has the sentence in high school on the verge of 1178 00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:26,560 Speaker 3: going to college and between to being the NBA. And 1179 00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:28,799 Speaker 3: you can't ask for nothing better than that to follow 1180 00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:31,120 Speaker 3: in the footsteps and kind of see the path that 1181 00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:31,560 Speaker 3: you was on. 1182 00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:35,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, the best part about that is guys like y'all. 1183 00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:38,640 Speaker 4: I could just call y'all and get into a ship like, hey, yo, man, 1184 00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:41,520 Speaker 4: he's this is what he looks like, right now, this 1185 00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:43,560 Speaker 4: is what he's not doing Colado. 1186 00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:46,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, cause it's funny because his son played on my 1187 00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:50,279 Speaker 3: A team he was younger. He did he moved when 1188 00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:52,720 Speaker 3: he was moving to LA and I was like, damn, 1189 00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:56,680 Speaker 3: but it was perfect though. Like but like you said, 1190 00:53:56,719 --> 00:53:58,640 Speaker 3: like you get to the point where you finish eighth grade, 1191 00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:01,359 Speaker 3: what you really want to do, Yeah, if you want 1192 00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:02,719 Speaker 3: to take it here as we can move here and 1193 00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:04,920 Speaker 3: get get straight to it, like you have, you have 1194 00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:08,000 Speaker 3: the blueprint, you in LA. You have your friends that train, 1195 00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:08,879 Speaker 3: you know how to train. 1196 00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:11,359 Speaker 2: You still in the gym working out, So they got 1197 00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:13,040 Speaker 2: to be even more motivation for him. 1198 00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:16,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, it is, I think because although like we have 1199 00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:20,919 Speaker 4: the same frame and we are probably that we looked 1200 00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:26,440 Speaker 4: at exact same he's he's completely different than I am, 1201 00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:29,279 Speaker 4: you know, and he has a different skill set than me. 1202 00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:32,239 Speaker 4: The thing that I try to get him to do 1203 00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:34,719 Speaker 4: or learn is the things that I did that got 1204 00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:37,040 Speaker 4: to be your base, Like that got to be something 1205 00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:43,120 Speaker 4: that is always always always on point, and that's playing 1206 00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:45,000 Speaker 4: hard and playing defense and rebounding. 1207 00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:48,439 Speaker 1: What's that like when when you're watching to play other 1208 00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:53,480 Speaker 1: former NBA players, you know kids, is that kind of 1209 00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:55,680 Speaker 1: wild where you're like, oh, that's Scotty's kid, you know, 1210 00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:59,400 Speaker 1: that's Lebron's kid, like it are they just like, No, 1211 00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:01,280 Speaker 1: there's just ano a guy that I got to play against. 1212 00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:02,480 Speaker 2: Uh. 1213 00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:05,560 Speaker 4: I think for them again because it's through their lens, 1214 00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:07,520 Speaker 4: it's just someone that. 1215 00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:08,600 Speaker 2: They have to play against. 1216 00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:12,040 Speaker 4: They all have like a target on their back because 1217 00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:17,440 Speaker 4: they're kids of professionals, you know, so like everybody's always 1218 00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:20,160 Speaker 4: going to be oh, that's such and such, such and such. 1219 00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:23,800 Speaker 4: That don't change being in between those lines and having 1220 00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:28,319 Speaker 4: to compete. So that's one of the things that I 1221 00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:33,319 Speaker 4: always try to like, uh, let my kids know, like 1222 00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:37,759 Speaker 4: y'all have to fucking compete at all times. You never 1223 00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:40,439 Speaker 4: know who's watching. Everybody want to take your head off, 1224 00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:42,480 Speaker 4: so strap up. 1225 00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:48,840 Speaker 1: Mm hmm yeah. Trevor John, do you have anything else 1226 00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:52,120 Speaker 1: that's good? What do you have? Do you have any 1227 00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:54,520 Speaker 1: other memories? One? One last memory to sort of leave 1228 00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:56,360 Speaker 1: us on of playing with Trevor. 1229 00:55:57,480 --> 00:56:01,520 Speaker 2: Oh, we got a lot of We got a lot 1230 00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:01,920 Speaker 2: of them. 1231 00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:03,879 Speaker 3: But my biggest thing, like I said, I just want 1232 00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:06,880 Speaker 3: to give miss Flowers because you don't have a lot 1233 00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:08,759 Speaker 3: of vets that come in and teach you certain shit. 1234 00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:11,680 Speaker 3: Some vests, is they be alter ego and don't really 1235 00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:14,040 Speaker 3: want to help the young guys. And learning from all 1236 00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:16,120 Speaker 3: my vests between him, Drew Good and out hearing to 1237 00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:19,439 Speaker 3: Andre Miller, they they gorta all those guys. They helped 1238 00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:21,440 Speaker 3: me try to help the younger guys. They came after me. 1239 00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:23,480 Speaker 3: So as long as I gave him his flowers, that's 1240 00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:25,239 Speaker 3: all I really cared about. That was the biggest thing 1241 00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:26,680 Speaker 3: for me. Yeah, I appreciate it. 1242 00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:26,960 Speaker 2: Man. 1243 00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:29,560 Speaker 4: I'm one of those people that kind of like to 1244 00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:32,359 Speaker 4: just like, if I can fly under the radar, I 1245 00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:33,840 Speaker 4: will for sure. 1246 00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:34,800 Speaker 2: I don't know. 1247 00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:37,279 Speaker 3: I said, if he's silent, you're not gonna hear him. Like, 1248 00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:39,520 Speaker 3: he'll be in a room and he just be to itself. 1249 00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:40,040 Speaker 2: Cool. 1250 00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:42,480 Speaker 3: But that's how you always be because when you be 1251 00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:44,160 Speaker 3: real and be to yourself, you don't never have to 1252 00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:46,359 Speaker 3: fit in and remember what you're trying to do to 1253 00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:49,280 Speaker 3: be somebody else. And that's what we always respected. Because 1254 00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:51,160 Speaker 3: he came in, he didn't try to take over the team. 1255 00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:52,960 Speaker 3: He's like, I'm the vet, I'm gonna teach you out 1256 00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:55,080 Speaker 3: certain ways. I'm a staut the way, but when y'all 1257 00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:57,440 Speaker 3: fucking up. His voice was definitely her it won't no 1258 00:56:57,520 --> 00:56:58,920 Speaker 3: bullshit when he had to say something. 1259 00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:02,919 Speaker 4: Yeah, I appreciate that too, because again, like they didn't 1260 00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:04,840 Speaker 4: have to. You guys didn't have to listen. You know, 1261 00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:10,440 Speaker 4: you guys or lottery picks, y'all are y'all are faces 1262 00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:13,400 Speaker 4: of franchise, So like y'all didn't have to listen. So 1263 00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:16,520 Speaker 4: I appreciate the fact that you guys respected me enough 1264 00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:19,560 Speaker 4: to hear what I have to say. And again, like 1265 00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:22,400 Speaker 4: just watching you guys play and watching y'all grow, and 1266 00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:25,840 Speaker 4: watching y'all y'all game grow, you know, I felt like 1267 00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:29,040 Speaker 4: a proud big brother because you know, I've seen what 1268 00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:31,480 Speaker 4: it was when I was there to you know, watching 1269 00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:34,480 Speaker 4: the rest of you guys's career and as it continues, 1270 00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:38,080 Speaker 4: you know, for my young guys, just watching them like 1271 00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:42,280 Speaker 4: continue to blossom. This that's like a you know, that's 1272 00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:43,240 Speaker 4: the point of pride. 1273 00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:44,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1274 00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:46,280 Speaker 3: Hell yeah, like you said, like a big brother, some 1275 00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:49,000 Speaker 3: shit we didn't have. And like I said, it's always 1276 00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:51,120 Speaker 3: tough comingness because you never know how nobody gonna act. 1277 00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:53,720 Speaker 3: New team going into a new locker room. And you 1278 00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:55,720 Speaker 3: got certain guys that's drafted high, like you said, they 1279 00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:58,320 Speaker 3: can be like after vets, I'm not listening and if 1280 00:57:58,360 --> 00:57:59,600 Speaker 3: it's gonna be like you know what, I'm just gonna 1281 00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:01,440 Speaker 3: do my job. But go ahead, go your way and 1282 00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:03,240 Speaker 3: finish and figure out how you're gonna figure it out. 1283 00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:05,160 Speaker 2: And it's always been loved. 1284 00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:09,000 Speaker 3: I appreciate the friendship, the brother ship we have coming 1285 00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:11,840 Speaker 3: in being being a great teammate, bro. And it's great 1286 00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:13,640 Speaker 3: to see where your son going, seeing where you're going 1287 00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:15,560 Speaker 3: in the next part of your life and you know 1288 00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:16,240 Speaker 3: what it is, Bro. 1289 00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:18,640 Speaker 2: Appreciate you always perfection. 1290 00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:22,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, Trevor, thanks for coming out. Appreciate it. 1291 00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:24,760 Speaker 2: Great wroughtch your magazine, Bro, you should have shown the magazine. 1292 00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:25,160 Speaker 2: That's time. 1293 00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:26,320 Speaker 1: I got the magazine. 1294 00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:29,400 Speaker 2: I got the magazine. Ain't even bringing I don't even 1295 00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:32,120 Speaker 2: you remember it. No, I remember that. 1296 00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:35,920 Speaker 1: I just remember Hassan coming up to me and like, hey, 1297 00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:38,800 Speaker 1: where'd you get that academic sweatsuit? And it was too 1298 00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:40,760 Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys remember back then. Those 1299 00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:41,360 Speaker 1: are crazy. 1300 00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:45,760 Speaker 2: It probably was brown. You probably had some TEMs during 1301 00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:46,960 Speaker 2: the time too, because. 1302 00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:50,800 Speaker 1: No, I think I was wearing some some I here 1303 00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:54,680 Speaker 1: in Pennsylvania. It was yeah, because it's January and that 1304 00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:57,440 Speaker 1: was like guys like I lived. I lived from two 1305 00:58:57,480 --> 00:58:59,680 Speaker 1: hours from Cleveland. That's where I could see NBA players. 1306 00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:02,120 Speaker 1: But when you guys came, that was a huge deal 1307 00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:04,800 Speaker 1: to the city to me. And they were like, these 1308 00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:06,760 Speaker 1: guys are the next guys. And then I was like, 1309 00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:09,840 Speaker 1: I remember watching I was like, I met that guy. 1310 00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:11,680 Speaker 1: So you were probably like one of the first NBA 1311 00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:12,760 Speaker 1: players that I met. 1312 00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:14,960 Speaker 2: That's crazy, I was. 1313 00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:17,680 Speaker 4: I wasn't an NBA player and we played it. What's 1314 00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:21,440 Speaker 4: I think? We played a team called Chester Chester High. 1315 00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:24,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, Chester was there and the Cathedral Prep was my 1316 00:59:24,280 --> 00:59:27,960 Speaker 1: was my school, Gery Cathedral Prep. That was who Kobe 1317 00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:30,800 Speaker 1: played in high school for the state championship too when 1318 00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:33,440 Speaker 1: he was at Lower Marion. It was great talking to 1319 00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:35,440 Speaker 1: each ovor appreciate you coming on the show. There's been 1320 00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:38,240 Speaker 1: Point Game with John Wall and CJ Toldnno. Will be 1321 00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:47,440 Speaker 1: back after the break. Welcome back to Point Game with 1322 00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:50,640 Speaker 1: John Wall and CJ Toldonno. Presented by Draft Kings. Just 1323 00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:52,720 Speaker 1: as a reminder, bucket a brick is brought to you 1324 00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:55,600 Speaker 1: by Draft Kings Sportsbook. Draft Kings Sportsbook is your home 1325 00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:58,360 Speaker 1: for all things NBA action, from player props, the same 1326 00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:01,560 Speaker 1: game parlays. Check out every I think DraftKings sportsbook has 1327 01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:03,960 Speaker 1: to offer to make your NBA experience even sweeter. The 1328 01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:07,400 Speaker 1: crown is yours. We all know, Bucketer Brick, John, I'm 1329 01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:09,680 Speaker 1: gonna make a statement. If you agree, you're gonna say bucket, 1330 01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:12,960 Speaker 1: and if you disagree, you're gonna say Brick. So you 1331 01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:16,360 Speaker 1: ready for this this edition of a Bucket Brick, We 1332 01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:19,080 Speaker 1: got some good ones here for you. So the first 1333 01:00:19,080 --> 01:00:22,320 Speaker 1: one Tyrese Maxi. He scored fifty two points on Sunday night, 1334 01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:25,120 Speaker 1: his second fifty point game of the season. And then 1335 01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:28,320 Speaker 1: Joelle didn't play, but he's back. In the Sixers, they're 1336 01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:29,920 Speaker 1: kind of like, I don't know, if they end up 1337 01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:32,240 Speaker 1: a seven, that's like a fake seven seed, right. So 1338 01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:35,320 Speaker 1: the Sixers are currently favored at nine to fifty to 1339 01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:37,960 Speaker 1: win the Eastern Conference, meaning if you bet one hundred, 1340 01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:41,280 Speaker 1: you could win nine hundred and fifty bucks. So Bucketer Brick, 1341 01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:43,160 Speaker 1: the Sixers are gonna win the East. 1342 01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:47,880 Speaker 3: Brick, I don't think East. I just have Boston winning. 1343 01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:50,200 Speaker 3: I mean I think complete team. I just have Boston winning. 1344 01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:55,520 Speaker 3: But if they finished seventh or eighth, this sixth or 1345 01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:57,800 Speaker 3: not a seven to eight seeds, so that is gonna 1346 01:00:57,800 --> 01:00:59,800 Speaker 3: be a tough out for any team first if you 1347 01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:02,640 Speaker 3: verst or sacking, no matter what, because they are a 1348 01:01:02,680 --> 01:01:05,640 Speaker 3: top three, top top three, top four team for sure 1349 01:01:05,720 --> 01:01:08,400 Speaker 3: when they're healthy. To me, they're just how dominant Joel 1350 01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:10,960 Speaker 3: and be this. I love Nick Nurse of the coach. 1351 01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:13,080 Speaker 3: I love the access and pieces that added, and you 1352 01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:16,560 Speaker 3: know Tyre's maxius who he is. So I just think 1353 01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:18,840 Speaker 3: they're a better team. But you know, injuries have made 1354 01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:21,120 Speaker 3: them fundle fundle a little bit. 1355 01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:24,360 Speaker 1: What edge do you give the Celtics because I think, 1356 01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:26,560 Speaker 1: you know, as you said with me, some different factors. 1357 01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:28,920 Speaker 3: For me, I just feel like you have two guys 1358 01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:30,760 Speaker 3: that's glue, guys that can fit on any team, and 1359 01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:32,160 Speaker 3: you don't really get to men of those guys, and 1360 01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:34,160 Speaker 3: they Drew Holliday and Derek White. 1361 01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:37,680 Speaker 2: But I also think they just have the depth. They 1362 01:01:37,680 --> 01:01:38,600 Speaker 2: shoot the three wheel. 1363 01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:42,200 Speaker 3: They have two stars, superstars and Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum. 1364 01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:44,240 Speaker 3: And I think Pazingers is the X factor, you know 1365 01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:46,400 Speaker 3: what I mean, Like he can pick and pop and 1366 01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:48,320 Speaker 3: then if you know a lot of teams switch a lot. 1367 01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:49,720 Speaker 3: He's a guy that can you get throw the ball 1368 01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:51,160 Speaker 3: to in the post and he can score, get to 1369 01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:52,920 Speaker 3: the free throw line. So I think they just get 1370 01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:55,400 Speaker 3: him another dynamic adjustment than what they had last year. 1371 01:01:55,560 --> 01:01:57,800 Speaker 3: Me I'll work it with the guy that were picking Pop. 1372 01:01:57,840 --> 01:01:59,960 Speaker 3: But he wasn't scoring in the post like he used 1373 01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:01,959 Speaker 3: to when he was in Atlanta or have the same 1374 01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:04,560 Speaker 3: face up game. His game has just changed. He's older, 1375 01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:06,560 Speaker 3: I mean, so he's more of a still could defend 1376 01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:08,840 Speaker 3: it a high level switch out. He blockshots, can shoot threes, 1377 01:02:09,120 --> 01:02:12,000 Speaker 3: and I think with Rob Williams he wasn't switched out 1378 01:02:12,040 --> 01:02:14,240 Speaker 3: as much. He was a lot threat for them. Whatever 1379 01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:16,760 Speaker 3: Prezians at the five and sometimes they can go a 1380 01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:18,360 Speaker 3: bigger line up and put out Corporite at the four 1381 01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:21,280 Speaker 3: and Pasie five. I just think they have the right pieces. 1382 01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:24,280 Speaker 3: I think they've been to a lot of East Commons finals. 1383 01:02:24,280 --> 01:02:26,720 Speaker 3: They've been to the finals and loss, and I think 1384 01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:29,840 Speaker 3: they know that Tenem, if they don't break through this year, 1385 01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:31,880 Speaker 3: next year, you're gonna have to break it up. I mean, 1386 01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:34,560 Speaker 3: because they gave they went all, they gave up. They 1387 01:02:34,560 --> 01:02:36,480 Speaker 3: gave up Marcus Smart. It was a great piece for them, 1388 01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:39,520 Speaker 3: probably the most love selfs in a long time. And uh, 1389 01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:42,440 Speaker 3: finding the right pieces for their team. So I think 1390 01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:44,600 Speaker 3: they're the team is up to them. 1391 01:02:45,040 --> 01:02:47,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, that'll be a crazy first round like that'll that'll 1392 01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:50,400 Speaker 1: be for sure if that ends up being that okay 1393 01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:52,280 Speaker 1: second one. The MAVs have won nine of their last 1394 01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:54,480 Speaker 1: ten games and Lucas leading the league in scoring, so 1395 01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:57,320 Speaker 1: h bucket to brick, Lucas gonna win at least two 1396 01:02:57,440 --> 01:03:01,520 Speaker 1: m vps in his career. Butet, Yeah, for. 1397 01:03:01,480 --> 01:03:02,280 Speaker 2: Sure, I think it's up. 1398 01:03:02,560 --> 01:03:05,040 Speaker 3: I think if they were would have caught fire a 1399 01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:06,840 Speaker 3: little earlier, he would have opportunity to win it. If 1400 01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:09,280 Speaker 3: Yoks would at least slowed down a little bit, I 1401 01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:10,080 Speaker 3: think he would have had it. 1402 01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:10,720 Speaker 2: Well. 1403 01:03:10,760 --> 01:03:12,280 Speaker 3: I think he still have opportunity to win it, But 1404 01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:15,520 Speaker 3: I think it's between Luca and Yolk. Shaye was there 1405 01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:17,400 Speaker 3: for sure, don't get me wrong, he was right there, 1406 01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:19,760 Speaker 3: but I think the last couple of games he missed. 1407 01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:21,960 Speaker 3: And I think that's kind of like those guys are 1408 01:03:21,960 --> 01:03:24,920 Speaker 3: playing and Luca got the mass rowling, and that's a 1409 01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:27,919 Speaker 3: team that's not a seed that anybody wants to see 1410 01:03:27,960 --> 01:03:30,840 Speaker 3: because they had a great trade with Daman Gafford and PJ. Washington, 1411 01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:33,160 Speaker 3: and I think Luke and Kyrie is figuring out how 1412 01:03:33,160 --> 01:03:35,760 Speaker 3: to play well with each other. Yeah, that is very 1413 01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:38,640 Speaker 3: scary because we know he uhould do the teams by hisself. 1414 01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:40,920 Speaker 2: And you had a score like. 1415 01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:44,080 Speaker 1: Kyrie, Oh my god, and Kyrie being healthy. 1416 01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:47,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, the day he looked like he's happy again. Man, 1417 01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:50,080 Speaker 3: he just enjoyed playing basketball. He's he had a great 1418 01:03:50,360 --> 01:03:52,000 Speaker 3: place in his life on what you could see from 1419 01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:53,320 Speaker 3: him playing basketball in that piece. 1420 01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:58,360 Speaker 1: All right, So going back to college. Last night, Zach 1421 01:03:58,600 --> 01:04:02,120 Speaker 1: Edie scored thirty seven and in the national Championship they 1422 01:04:02,080 --> 01:04:04,680 Speaker 1: didn't win. But I'm curious because I've been going back 1423 01:04:04,680 --> 01:04:07,640 Speaker 1: and forth on this, Zach Eedy will be a lottery 1424 01:04:07,680 --> 01:04:10,960 Speaker 1: pick in the draft. Bucketter Brick. 1425 01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:15,440 Speaker 3: It's a tough question. That's a good one. I just 1426 01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:18,080 Speaker 3: think it might be tough way defensively how the new 1427 01:04:18,160 --> 01:04:20,560 Speaker 3: league is. But for me, I would say a bucket. 1428 01:04:20,840 --> 01:04:22,520 Speaker 3: I think you still just have to take them. You 1429 01:04:22,520 --> 01:04:25,480 Speaker 3: don't find a person that's seven four that can score 1430 01:04:25,560 --> 01:04:29,120 Speaker 3: and kind of athletic, and I think you should have 1431 01:04:29,120 --> 01:04:29,960 Speaker 3: a good big career. 1432 01:04:30,040 --> 01:04:30,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1433 01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:32,120 Speaker 1: Why do you think that some people are sort of 1434 01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:34,280 Speaker 1: downplaying him, like being such a dominants. 1435 01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:37,400 Speaker 3: I think just because his mobility of moving defensively. I 1436 01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:39,480 Speaker 3: mean a lot of guys you look at it. You 1437 01:04:39,560 --> 01:04:41,880 Speaker 3: really don't have back to the batch of scores as 1438 01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:43,640 Speaker 3: big man. You got yoga jin and b. Other than that, 1439 01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:47,680 Speaker 3: you got to be able to move latterly like Golbert, 1440 01:04:47,760 --> 01:04:51,320 Speaker 3: he can move, block shots. He impact the game on 1441 01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:52,840 Speaker 3: the defensive end, you know what I mean. You got 1442 01:04:52,840 --> 01:04:56,280 Speaker 3: guys like check this playing the five sagoon, the space 1443 01:04:56,320 --> 01:04:56,880 Speaker 3: and the floor. 1444 01:04:56,960 --> 01:04:58,920 Speaker 2: You know what I mean. It's just so many different dynamics. 1445 01:04:58,960 --> 01:05:01,000 Speaker 2: But you just have to wait and see. 1446 01:05:01,040 --> 01:05:04,440 Speaker 3: I think he got better over from last year Eadie 1447 01:05:04,560 --> 01:05:07,080 Speaker 3: to this year defensively. So I mean probably some of 1448 01:05:07,120 --> 01:05:09,280 Speaker 3: you working throughout the whole draft process and see where 1449 01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:09,560 Speaker 3: it goes. 1450 01:05:09,800 --> 01:05:11,760 Speaker 1: Something to look out for in the draft coming up. Okay, 1451 01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:15,360 Speaker 1: final one, bucket brick. Now, this has gone some traction 1452 01:05:15,560 --> 01:05:19,080 Speaker 1: on our socials, the behind the back move, so like 1453 01:05:19,160 --> 01:05:22,479 Speaker 1: driving the basket, putting it behind your back, that's your move, 1454 01:05:22,880 --> 01:05:23,600 Speaker 1: bucket brick. 1455 01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:25,520 Speaker 2: Bucket. 1456 01:05:25,560 --> 01:05:28,840 Speaker 3: For sure, I feel like I made it. I think 1457 01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:30,480 Speaker 3: that mean I'm not the first guy to ever do it. 1458 01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:34,440 Speaker 3: Don't get me wrong, for sure, but I think just 1459 01:05:34,560 --> 01:05:37,000 Speaker 3: being in being in high school watching my mixtape, then 1460 01:05:37,000 --> 01:05:39,240 Speaker 3: being in college watching when I was doing it too. 1461 01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:41,360 Speaker 3: When I got to the league and made it famous 1462 01:05:41,360 --> 01:05:43,000 Speaker 3: and then probably one of my best dunks ever against 1463 01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:45,600 Speaker 3: the Hawks. I did that same move, and the difference 1464 01:05:45,640 --> 01:05:47,760 Speaker 3: from me, I do it full speed without slowing down. 1465 01:05:47,760 --> 01:05:49,200 Speaker 3: A lot of people do it, but they slow down. 1466 01:05:49,240 --> 01:05:53,320 Speaker 3: I'm going full speed and there's no stopping it because 1467 01:05:53,440 --> 01:05:55,240 Speaker 3: I did it. I think you look it up against 1468 01:05:55,240 --> 01:05:57,560 Speaker 3: the Pacers, I did it. I went by my back 1469 01:05:57,600 --> 01:05:59,560 Speaker 3: and they kind of like Georgia Hill kind of ready 1470 01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:02,320 Speaker 3: lasts was coming to block it, and I didn't have 1471 01:06:02,320 --> 01:06:04,920 Speaker 3: to finish my right. I leaned back and finish with 1472 01:06:04,920 --> 01:06:06,480 Speaker 3: my left, and they ringing to each other. It was 1473 01:06:06,520 --> 01:06:08,840 Speaker 3: going to have time, So I got different ways I 1474 01:06:08,840 --> 01:06:11,560 Speaker 3: can finish off that. I can go right, right, right, left, right, 1475 01:06:11,640 --> 01:06:13,040 Speaker 3: dunk a lot of stuff. 1476 01:06:13,200 --> 01:06:14,840 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, that's the thing. It's like you didn't 1477 01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:18,000 Speaker 1: invent it, but you've definitely people started using it after 1478 01:06:18,040 --> 01:06:20,520 Speaker 1: seeing your highlights. Can you say who you learned that 1479 01:06:20,560 --> 01:06:22,240 Speaker 1: from or when the first time you started doing it? 1480 01:06:22,280 --> 01:06:24,160 Speaker 3: To be honest, bro, I just tried it. Like for 1481 01:06:24,200 --> 01:06:27,120 Speaker 3: me when I played basketball, I don't determine anything. It's 1482 01:06:27,160 --> 01:06:29,680 Speaker 3: just all instincts for me. Yeah, Like if I see 1483 01:06:29,680 --> 01:06:31,200 Speaker 3: it different, like one day, I just see a different 1484 01:06:31,280 --> 01:06:33,040 Speaker 3: run this way, and I'm like, Okay, usually I can spin, 1485 01:06:33,240 --> 01:06:36,560 Speaker 3: you know. I mean, I'm not really great at eurostep. 1486 01:06:36,640 --> 01:06:38,960 Speaker 3: That's not my thing. I mean, so I'm like, let's 1487 01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:40,520 Speaker 3: try this. And I tried it behind the back and 1488 01:06:40,560 --> 01:06:42,560 Speaker 3: it worked, so I was like, I'm gonna stick with it. 1489 01:06:42,680 --> 01:06:46,280 Speaker 1: It's effective, all right, John, Well, it's been another episode 1490 01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:50,720 Speaker 1: of Point Game. Appreciate you, presented by DraftKings. Everyone, please 1491 01:06:51,160 --> 01:06:54,640 Speaker 1: go out there, rate reviews, subscribe, lead the reviews. Everyone 1492 01:06:54,640 --> 01:06:58,000 Speaker 1: who also on our post left fan questions. Keep doing that. 1493 01:06:58,080 --> 01:07:00,479 Speaker 1: Leave those in the reviews. We're gonna have a future 1494 01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:02,280 Speaker 1: episode where John answers a bunch of those, and you 1495 01:07:02,320 --> 01:07:05,040 Speaker 1: guys will get some hoodies and some hats. Point Game 1496 01:07:05,080 --> 01:07:07,200 Speaker 1: merch on the way, John, anything else you want to 1497 01:07:07,240 --> 01:07:08,440 Speaker 1: leave the fans with. 1498 01:07:09,040 --> 01:07:10,640 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Man, great to be back. Man. 1499 01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:12,720 Speaker 3: We ain't gonna take no break like that no more. 1500 01:07:13,520 --> 01:07:15,760 Speaker 3: But like, yeah, we got that. We just enjoyed the man. 1501 01:07:15,760 --> 01:07:18,040 Speaker 3: We're having fun. 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