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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of the

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Speaker 1: Weekly Zeitgeist. These are some of our favorite segments from

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Speaker 1: this week, all edited together into one NonStop infotainment last stravaganza.

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Speaker 1: Uh yeah, So, without further ado, here is the Weekly Zeitgeist. Really,

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Speaker 1: what is something from your search history that is revealing

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Speaker 1: about who you are? Well? Last night I searched what

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Speaker 1: is the emoji symbol for? Like can I say pussy

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Speaker 1: or vagina or whatever? I forget I'm allowed to say that.

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Speaker 1: Let's take a quick break and figure this. Let's side

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Speaker 1: because I know eggplant is the dick emoji and I'm

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Speaker 1: making Valentine's Day merch. Hey, you guys can buy them

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Speaker 1: at dot com Comedy, dot com slash shop. But I

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Speaker 1: wanted I have a joke that's like thank you for

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Speaker 1: the dick, but I'm doing it where you can circle

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Speaker 1: different ones so you can circle I want to like

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Speaker 1: big pussy, like heart, brain, whatever. But I was like,

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Speaker 1: I don't know the if there is one, and I

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Speaker 1: looked it up and I couldn't figure out like a consensus,

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Speaker 1: So I just put a picture of a kitty. What

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Speaker 1: do you guys think is there? Is it? I've heard taco,

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Speaker 1: but that feels the meaning to me. Yeah, I don't

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Speaker 1: like those weird I mean the kitty, that's that's probably

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Speaker 1: the best way to go at it as opposed to

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Speaker 1: taco which just like I feel like it reminds me

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Speaker 1: of that uh pink tacos, like Taco Place which always

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Speaker 1: has you may have one of the Century City mall. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: like back in the day, and I was like, I

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Speaker 1: remember something like you'll ruin a pink talk on like

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Speaker 1: you are you enjoy miss me with that aggirable bullshit.

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Speaker 1: Places like the tacos suck. Yeah. I'm trying to think,

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Speaker 1: like because I know on the internet, like you know,

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Speaker 1: like you know, the Shade Room or like gossip blogs

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Speaker 1: when where they like I feel like the cat face

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Speaker 1: one is used a lot and then the other two,

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Speaker 1: but then the peach is used for a button. There

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Speaker 1: I put the button. There, I put brain, which you

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Speaker 1: can interpret either way. You know, you could interpreted the

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Speaker 1: Nicki minajway or as but yeah, but I wanted a Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's what I was like. Maybe there's a flower, but

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it's universal, So I just put kitty.

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Speaker 1: But the flower that needs to be remedied I think

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Speaker 1: yeah's are just also different. You know, maybe it's hard

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Speaker 1: to categorize them because they're all just unique. Maybe it

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Speaker 1: should be like a snowflake or something. Yeah wow, um, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm just trying to Yeah, maybe that's something we need

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Speaker 1: to push for. Alex Schmidt and Jamie loftus need to

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Speaker 1: combine their forces of trying to get into emojis being

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Speaker 1: made and just be like, what is the thing we

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Speaker 1: can all agree upon for this genital representation? So I'm

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Speaker 1: behind that, kitty. Are there any other options that we Um,

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Speaker 1: there's like so if you look it up, they do

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Speaker 1: have like like sets that are like not the Unicode one.

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Speaker 1: So there's a lot of like actual vagina emojis, which

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Speaker 1: is like not what I wanted. Um, but yeah, those

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Speaker 1: were the ones I saw. But I guess I guess

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Speaker 1: we have less need to be uh sending those emojis.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure to have a little emoji for it,

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Speaker 1: but yeah, you get into weird territory like is it

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Speaker 1: the cherries? Is it? Is it the oyster that oyster

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Speaker 1: above the stream, or is it like the meat bone

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Speaker 1: with the bone through it? There is like the third eye,

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Speaker 1: which I kind of like because that like the evil

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Speaker 1: eye or whatever, the protecting Yeah, okay, I cook a

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Speaker 1: ball with that. It's about like keeping out the evil,

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Speaker 1: you know. Sure, but I think Georgia O'Keeffe art historians

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Speaker 1: on the case to just be like this this will do. Really,

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Speaker 1: I was googling, I've I've been really homesick recently since

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Speaker 1: I was looking up local business drama in my area.

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Speaker 1: There's all so um, the best, the best, well not

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Speaker 1: but this drama or like consumer beefs with the businesses,

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Speaker 1: there's just always I feel like it happens everywhere, but

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Speaker 1: in the Boston ones always really make me laugh of

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Speaker 1: just like weird small business drama. And the best one

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Speaker 1: there's like this is a pretty well known one at

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Speaker 1: this point, but the cat cafe in Boston that was

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Speaker 1: drama Boston, and that brings you to a slew of

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Speaker 1: to take care of cats. Uh. Cat lovers immediately got

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Speaker 1: all these people she was working with were like, you

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Speaker 1: it went on for years. My brother used to live

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Speaker 1: near the Cat Cafe, so I relived that drama. And

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Speaker 1: then also the puppet theater I used to work out

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Speaker 1: in Boston was embezzled from by its own managing director.

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Speaker 1: So I was catching up on that drama. There's just

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Speaker 1: my my start. I don't know, my algorithm is is

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Speaker 1: fucked for like good and bad news. You just hit

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Speaker 1: us with there's a lot going on on my Google.

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Speaker 1: How much can you embezzle out of a puppet theater?

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Speaker 1: All of it? I guess is there a dollar amount?

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Speaker 1: What had happened? No, they it was kept pretty quiet.

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Speaker 1: It was I was I don't know why. I was

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Speaker 1: just like on one and I like contacted all my

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Speaker 1: Boston media contacts to be like, why aren't people reporting

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Speaker 1: on the puppet embezzlement? And then I did a bunch

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Speaker 1: of this is like a month ago. I did a

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Speaker 1: ton of research. I sent it to my friend and

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Speaker 1: she was like, UM, I'll see what we can do,

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Speaker 1: but it's you just got to go through it here.

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Speaker 1: It is just what kind of person do you need

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Speaker 1: to be to embezzle from a fucking independently run, nonprofit

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Speaker 1: puppet theater. That's first fucking kind. I feel like you've

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Speaker 1: got to be a bad guy in a Muppets movie,

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Speaker 1: Like that's from a puppet I was so upset about it,

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Speaker 1: so mad that people stole for someone stole from a

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Speaker 1: the cash, but like what was your connection to the

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Speaker 1: puppet theater, just like when you went to or I

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Speaker 1: little bit. It's a great puppet theater. It seems like

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Speaker 1: I'm still in their email list, and like a month

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Speaker 1: I was like, oh, because usually it's like do you

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Speaker 1: but um so there's you know, just a little a

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Speaker 1: to home. What is something from your search history that

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Speaker 1: is revealing about who you are? So my I recently

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Speaker 1: searched is tell Me Who I Am? A true story?

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Speaker 1: Because do you know that documentary Tell Me Who I Am?

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Speaker 1: I think it's pretty recent. And on Childish my parenting

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Speaker 1: Ish podcast, uh my co host Craig Fitzsimmons mentioned having

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Speaker 1: but it was like so amazing and he's like, just

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Speaker 1: I think she shouldn't watch it. It's like the worst

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Speaker 1: Don't watch it. So I thought, okay, I won't. I'll

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Speaker 1: just go google the plot summary, which is I Am. I'm.

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Speaker 1: I cannot handle horror. I can't handle things that are

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Speaker 1: to those places. Anyway, I don't need outside help. So

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Speaker 1: what I do is I won't watch anything awful. I

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Speaker 1: just read this like I couldn't even I could not

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Speaker 1: the entire synopsis because I go torture myself by reading

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Speaker 1: about it on Wikipedia. So I went to Wikipedia. I

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Speaker 1: And I don't know whether I should say or not.

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Speaker 1: I don't really think it's a spoiler, because everything I

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Speaker 1: I was like, this is so awful. This, And I

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Speaker 1: It's so awful. This can't be a true story. This

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Speaker 1: that is dark. I'm I'm looking at it right now,

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Speaker 1: and it's like someone's in an accident, loses their memory

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it's a spoiler or not. I

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Speaker 1: It turns out that there was a very dark family secret, yes,

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Speaker 1: But then when their mother dies, the twin who had

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Speaker 1: finding out the truth of what really happened. I haven't

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Speaker 1: like Memento, where people are intentionally like trying to avoid reality.

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Speaker 1: one's own memories that I think we're seeing a lot

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Speaker 1: of in popular culture. Obviously we see a lot of it.

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Speaker 1: And then news with Trump supporters and Alex Jones people

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Speaker 1: and ship like that. But right, I mean, I think

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Speaker 1: there's this question of what is the value of living

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Speaker 1: in reality if reality is upsetting and disturbing? Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: think the matrix is probably the more central idea is

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Speaker 1: everything's white supremacy because it is. But it's almost like

428
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Speaker 1: how do you talk to someone who you're like, you know,

429
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 1: it's like it was like it's like intervening with someone

430
00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:40,720
Speaker 1: Sometimes you say drinking problem and it's like the alarn't

431
00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:44,160
Speaker 1: like they that can't be heard or whatever it is. Yeah,

432
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:47,160
Speaker 1: it's like a shutdown and again, and so no meaningful

433
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:50,000
Speaker 1: communication can occur at that point. And I'm also curious,

434
00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:53,680
Speaker 1: like is there because I also understand if for them

435
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:57,760
Speaker 1: there they've completely been robbed of any context nuance that

436
00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:00,639
Speaker 1: true them. It's just saying every they say, it's just

437
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,360
Speaker 1: that well it isn't because I'm not I've never participated

438
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:06,200
Speaker 1: in a lynch mob or I've never said this, so

439
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,959
Speaker 1: like that's just getting fired up without like. So that's

440
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:11,640
Speaker 1: why I'm always just like, I don't even know how

441
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 1: a corner can begin begin to be turned if I don't,

442
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:17,479
Speaker 1: and then it's almost like and I'm not trying to

443
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:20,320
Speaker 1: coddle racist people, but I'm like, is there another way

444
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:22,879
Speaker 1: that it has to be explained to even begin for

445
00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:26,520
Speaker 1: something to like thaw or begin to melt. But I

446
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:28,639
Speaker 1: don't know. That's why I'm just like, Yeah, I'm not

447
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,840
Speaker 1: really sure, because it's like we do. I mean, working

448
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:35,000
Speaker 1: class white people and working class people of color have

449
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 1: so much to make common cause over right, Like they

450
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:41,160
Speaker 1: deal with so many of the same issues. They both

451
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,760
Speaker 1: have a government that doesn't give a funk about them,

452
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 1: um and like their needs and how they're going to

453
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:50,280
Speaker 1: pay their bills and get healthcare right, So I think

454
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:51,719
Speaker 1: that I don't think that they're going to hear it

455
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:55,359
Speaker 1: from people of color. I really don't write, and they don't.

456
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:59,640
Speaker 1: They feel very sensitive, I think fairly um about being

457
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:03,400
Speaker 1: taught down to and and like condescended to because they

458
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,439
Speaker 1: feel like rich people already do that to them, um,

459
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 1: and so I think that that was kind of I

460
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 1: think that was like a big part of why they

461
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 1: rallied behind Trump was they were like, oh, he's going

462
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:14,119
Speaker 1: to be a bully for us, right, Like he's going

463
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:17,680
Speaker 1: to throw people around for us. Um. And so yeah,

464
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 1: I mean, I think that there are conversations that can

465
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,879
Speaker 1: be had, but I don't think that those conversations starting

466
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:26,119
Speaker 1: out like I think that's white people work essentially, is

467
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:29,399
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Hey, look like we're all getting screwed

468
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:32,360
Speaker 1: over if we all just work together on this one issue, right,

469
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 1: And that's what's been most effective, like at least in

470
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,160
Speaker 1: the research that I've seen in the US, is that

471
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:39,200
Speaker 1: you know, you don't have to do like the party thing.

472
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:41,399
Speaker 1: Just find a bunch of people who are affected by

473
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,960
Speaker 1: one single issue and make that the thing that you

474
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 1: focus on. The everybody im board with whatever it is,

475
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 1: right like labor rights or minimum wage or health care access,

476
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 1: and you just focus on that one thing that that

477
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 1: can actually get people to work together um as opposed

478
00:26:57,880 --> 00:26:59,760
Speaker 1: to being like, well you just need to be a

479
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:01,960
Speaker 1: left just right, or you need to be more progressive,

480
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 1: or you're just right. Because it's like you're What they

481
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 1: hear is you're too stupid to know like what's best

482
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 1: for you, And well we do. I mean, I do

483
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:15,680
Speaker 1: believe that they're voting against their own self interest, right. Um.

484
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 1: I think that we also have to engage with the

485
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 1: fact that, you know, if you feel like someone has

486
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,440
Speaker 1: said to you, well, you're stupid, but actually sit down,

487
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 1: because I need to tell you what's what, Like, people

488
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 1: aren't really going to go for that. I think that

489
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,119
Speaker 1: there has to be Um, I think, yeah, I think

490
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,479
Speaker 1: it's white people work. I think that those conversations had

491
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 1: to be had and I don't know that again it's

492
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 1: going to be like a political party thing, but I

493
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:38,920
Speaker 1: think on issues you can get people who would identify

494
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 1: as conservative to make common cause with more compressive ideas

495
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:48,439
Speaker 1: because like that anger of not having ship, or feeling

496
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:50,879
Speaker 1: like your bills are adding up or whatever is being

497
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 1: reprojected onto this like fucking Schumer blood ship and then

498
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:00,080
Speaker 1: like at a certain point, like it's gonna hollow you

499
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:04,400
Speaker 1: out because you can only without actually addressing your material

500
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 1: needs that potentially could be solved through better policy, right right.

501
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:11,639
Speaker 1: And a lot of it too is they see they're like, well,

502
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:15,679
Speaker 1: you know, minorities don't deserve assistance, right, and like why

503
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 1: should they be able to cut in line? I mean

504
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 1: this is gonna be the exact same thing with the

505
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 1: COVID vaccine of like, well how come those people get

506
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 1: to cut in line? Like what are they more important

507
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:25,879
Speaker 1: than me? Um? So I think, you know, there's very

508
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:29,879
Speaker 1: much that attitude of like, well, like undocumented people, that's

509
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,359
Speaker 1: not what they say, or stealing all of our health care.

510
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 1: So I'm opposed to universal health care because I don't

511
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 1: want illegals to have it. Like that's that's an argue.

512
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 1: That's a very common argument, right, um, And it's one

513
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 1: of those things you have to explain, was like this

514
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 1: isn't as it's not zero sum, like health care isn't

515
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 1: just because someone who is undocumented gets healthcare doesn't mean

516
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 1: you don't also get healthare right exactly? So I mean, yeah,

517
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 1: I think if you make it about the issue, like

518
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:58,479
Speaker 1: a specific issue, instead of about politics, you get a

519
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 1: lot farther with that. I think just gotta be gotta

520
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 1: say everything for everyone, that's all. I'm honest, you know

521
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 1: what I mean, Because it's true. That's why I'm like,

522
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 1: it's this team sports ship, the second, it's attached to

523
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 1: this person is a Democrat, this person because it happens,

524
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 1: it's it's all over the place. I mean, yes, like

525
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 1: it's but this is what it is, you know, like

526
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 1: because this is everyone's retreating to their corners. But yeah,

527
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 1: I feel like if there is a way to just

528
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 1: like just to speak to the human exist, your condition,

529
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 1: the existence, the lived experience of being a person being

530
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 1: like more food, you know what I mean? Fucking free food?

531
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:40,720
Speaker 1: What free food? Yeah? For who? For who? Anybody? You

532
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,719
Speaker 1: need food? Come through, bro, you got it for you.

533
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 1: What do you need? What you need? What you need?

534
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 1: We got it, what you need, We got it party,

535
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And you hope. But again,

536
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 1: because it's a zero sum game, it's almost like that

537
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 1: conservatives look at even generosity as still being like, well,

538
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 1: it's finite, you know, And that's what that's what they're

539
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 1: told by their political leaders quote unquote, is that if

540
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 1: other people get some, that's less for you. Yeah, so

541
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 1: we're not going to give anybody anything like that's the

542
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 1: that's the part they don't say. It's like, Okay, so

543
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 1: all the massive wealth hoarding, they're like, oh, don't look

544
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 1: at all this wealth hoarding happening right here. It's the

545
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:25,959
Speaker 1: same conversation anybody has, most people, I think everybody has

546
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 1: if they ever asked for a raise at their job, Well,

547
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 1: you know, if we if we did that then or

548
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 1: I just got to see, there's just not enough right now,

549
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like it's and it's I

550
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 1: and if if you were talking to a CEO, they're

551
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 1: not having those conversations, were like, well, could they make

552
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 1: less and then wouldn't that create the money? Isn't that

553
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:50,239
Speaker 1: a way to do that for me? Oh well, but

554
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 1: first of all, what the shut the funk up. We're

555
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 1: never going to do that, just sort of like where

556
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 1: we're at, like we don't even have the imagination as

557
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 1: a nation to be like, yeah, but what about you?

558
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 1: Though you got it? You got it, so run your ship,

559
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, because we don't got it,

560
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 1: because because we're tired of being told, hey, you know

561
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 1: if you know, because if I do that, then this

562
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 1: guy is gonna want eyes for their kid, and then

563
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 1: the the other person wants a neck brace. You know,

564
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 1: it's like you funk that, but you live in a

565
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 1: fucking golden whatever the fuck? Uh you know, it's yeah,

566
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 1: what we hope the discourse can begin to like more

567
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 1: people have that imagination to be like all the things

568
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 1: are possible. It's just that like we got to stop

569
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 1: acting like you want Elon Musk to have you know,

570
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 1: eleventy billion dollars and that's like his right to do that,

571
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 1: or you know, Jeff Bays, any of these fucking people.

572
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 1: Just those graphs showing how how these billionaires made out

573
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 1: over the last year, Like would I don't know how

574
00:31:54,520 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 1: you look at that and think that's cool. That's cool. Yeah,

575
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 1: like that's cool. That's cool that the people who already

576
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 1: had more money than they could ever spend in their lives,

577
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 1: um like, are doubling their their net worth or adding

578
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 1: increasing it by and and then look at what's happening,

579
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 1: because it's truely, they're drinking our fucking milkshake. Okay, that's

580
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 1: what it is. They're drinking our fucking milkshake from all

581
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 1: the way across the room in their mansions. And then

582
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 1: we're still over here fighting each other not realizing like, actually,

583
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 1: you're drinking the milkshake, motherfucker. They're drinking the milkshake over there.

584
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 1: The billionaires are, they've been they're out there, they're fucking

585
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 1: drinking so much of it, Yeah, pointing fingers at each

586
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 1: other when no one has the ability to drink the

587
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 1: milkshake anyway, This Paul Thomas, this Paul Thomas Anderson metaphor

588
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 1: brought to you by a stoner bro You know, I

589
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 1: got a look. I gotta give it up from my

590
00:32:55,800 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 1: valley brethren. In terms of like the the racists who

591
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 1: felt empowered and like legitimized by the Trump presidency, there

592
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 1: does seem like there's like an a very immediate reaction

593
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 1: of either crawling back in their holes or being like,

594
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 1: but what what what happened? Like there? You know, there's

595
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 1: still the people we we talked about how Q isn't

596
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 1: going anywhere, Q and on isn't going anywhere. But there

597
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 1: are like a lot of posts from people in the

598
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 1: Q forums who are like, I mean, there's legitimately a

599
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 1: post that says, huh, I guess we were wrong. Like

600
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 1: there the guy says, funk this sham. I want to

601
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 1: puke like it. Just I couldn't. I couldn't stop reading

602
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 1: these screen caps from Q forums of where's the damn storm?

603
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 1: What happened? Why didn't the plan work? The number one

604
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 1: post on the Q and On like with their version

605
00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 1: of Reddit is just guys question work. That's beautiful. I

606
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 1: mean if it's also nice to see or like kind

607
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 1: of heartening to see that d platforming really like it

608
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 1: really does do something to properly d platform and it's

609
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 1: like it's still I'll never get over how long it

610
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 1: took um all the social media billionaires to d platform Trump.

611
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 1: But it's like had an immediate effect. It's and it's

612
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 1: i mean, didn't what's his name Watkins made a post

613
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 1: as well, Who's Watkins? The Ron Watkins they say is cute?

614
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 1: Is cute? Yeah? Yeah, And he was just like, well

615
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:42,800
Speaker 1: then like the vibe of the boss was like Q

616
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 1: and On was was it was more about the friends

617
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 1: we made actual major Q and On Booster, who some

618
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:58,399
Speaker 1: suspected of being Q himself. Post Uh posted a note

619
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 1: of resignation on his Telegram channel and is uh quote,

620
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 1: we have a new president sworn in and it is

621
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 1: our responsibility as citizens to respect the Constitution as we

622
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 1: enter into the next administration. Please remember all the friends

623
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 1: and happy memories we made together over the past few years.

624
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 1: What a piece of ship along the way. Yeah, but

625
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 1: also now to be like, let's let's respect the constitution.

626
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 1: I don't want any liability here. The words I'm saying

627
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,880
Speaker 1: is play nice now, even though we were fucking gassing

628
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 1: you all up on this bullshit. I love also in

629
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 1: that the screen grab you have from that queue forum

630
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 1: where someone was like, do any and all federal agents

631
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 1: browsing this website? Every post I have ever made is satire.

632
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 1: They're doing that, and they're doing that online craft. You

633
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 1: may not use my post to incriminate me. Uh, not fair,

634
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:58,279
Speaker 1: not fair. I am sovereign. There's just one when you

635
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:07,720
Speaker 1: get a little too let's it loud and then get bad. Uh,

636
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 1: there's a there's one section I just want to read

637
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:12,799
Speaker 1: word for word. Well, I'm the official laughing stock of

638
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Speaker 1: my family. Now awesome. And then someone this is embarrassing.

639
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 1: Here come all excuses now. And then somebody was responding

640
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:27,319
Speaker 1: to a comment, so where's the shockun awe question mark?

641
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,399
Speaker 1: And I guess this was like at eleven thirty, and

642
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 1: this person responded. Q also said noon exclamation point. I

643
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:38,840
Speaker 1: will start kicking people, kicking people for their attitudes. We

644
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 1: are patriots. You stand here and hold the line with us,

645
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:45,319
Speaker 1: or you can leave your choice. Uh, and Noon came

646
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:49,359
Speaker 1: in with and it went part he was not heard from? Uh,

647
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 1: let's and the final one in that is OMG, none

648
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 1: of this was real. I mean, you know what if

649
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:01,919
Speaker 1: you have somebody that is willing to own up that

650
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 1: they came this far and it didn't happen, Um, you know,

651
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 1: maybe she'd be like, Okay, so do you want to

652
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 1: talk about how do you want to make amends? Now?

653
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 1: That's the thing I'm trying to figure out, right because

654
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:15,360
Speaker 1: if clearly there are people who are like truly or

655
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 1: like what the fuck I played myself there? I feel

656
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 1: like there has to be a way to, like you

657
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 1: want to capitalize on that energy to try and get

658
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 1: people to return to the information age on some level.

659
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 1: But Jesus, I do want to just play this one

660
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:35,399
Speaker 1: thing of this Q and on guy who's so disappointed

661
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,920
Speaker 1: at Noon who is posting and just like come on, guys,

662
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 1: like let's just to stay together. Well, Patriots were all

663
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 1: probably doing the same thing watching this inauguration. You know,

664
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 1: we've been told to watch it carefully because a lot

665
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 1: of it could be nonsense, fake. Um. You know, only

666
00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:01,840
Speaker 1: time will tell, But you know I'm in Scott McKay.

667
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 1: They've all told us that this thing has to go

668
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 1: all the way through for it to be completed. The

669
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 1: inaugurgation before makes a move. So I think we're all

670
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 1: sitting here waiting, waiting for something to happen. I don't

671
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:24,880
Speaker 1: think this is over yet, fellas, guys and girls, Okay,

672
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 1: thanks inclusive. What about the non binary que people? Know? Okay,

673
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:33,400
Speaker 1: just making sure we're que stands on that, alright, ladies

674
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:37,319
Speaker 1: and a gentleman. But wow, they were yeah, they were really.

675
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 1: The goal posts were shifting, and like there was some

676
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:41,880
Speaker 1: other people on Twitter who were monitoring in real time

677
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,799
Speaker 1: showing that they're like there was a there was like

678
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 1: a very distinct moment at noon where a couple of

679
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 1: people tried to push the goalposts even further and people like, no,

680
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 1: fuck this, and like I started devouring the fucking like

681
00:38:55,680 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 1: the thread. Don't worry about it. It's just front late

682
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 1: military precision. I do wonder like if there's there, like

683
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 1: there's a clear need to like do some mass de radicalization,

684
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 1: especially for people who are newly um saying, like, holy shit,

685
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:19,799
Speaker 1: everything that I have been like burning every bridge in

686
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,919
Speaker 1: my life and giving into every prejudice I've ever had

687
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 1: was based on this gigantic lie, and it's like, I mean,

688
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:31,359
Speaker 1: it's not it's not. I wonder if there will be

689
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 1: some sort of figure or ideology that emerges that is

690
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:38,799
Speaker 1: actually helpful in de radicalizing. I don't, I don't know.

691
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:42,800
Speaker 1: It's so like what what is gonna What are which

692
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 1: direction are are these people gonna go? Right there? Does

693
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 1: seem like some of the institutions are losing momentum, Like

694
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 1: even Fox News is now like it's always way out

695
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 1: in front, first in the ratings, and now it's lagging.

696
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 1: It's third ever since the election. I think just the

697
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:07,319
Speaker 1: fact that they don't have a coherent truth they can

698
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 1: kind of rally behind, like there, uh, the news part

699
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:16,400
Speaker 1: of their reporting, like the stuff that happens during the

700
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 1: day just now completely contradicts the stuff that they're saying

701
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 1: at night. Um. Tucker Carlson is usually way out front,

702
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:29,360
Speaker 1: number one in the ratings. He's now like fourth, Um,

703
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 1: And yeah, I mean that you're you're seeing even like

704
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:37,879
Speaker 1: polling shift around About twenty percent of Republicans say they

705
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 1: approve of conviction in the latest poll, uh, conviction of

706
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:46,359
Speaker 1: Donald Trump in the in the Senate, which is an

707
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 1: increase from fourteen percent of Republicans saying that uh, just

708
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:55,759
Speaker 1: like a week before. And that's that's you know, the

709
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:58,439
Speaker 1: fact that it's moving in that direction as we get

710
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 1: further away from um, the event is I think somewhat significant, right, Yeah,

711
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 1: I mean it's you'd hope. And that's probably like the

712
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:12,880
Speaker 1: self preservation mechanism of a lot of these fucking ghouls

713
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:16,880
Speaker 1: who are just absolute monsters the last couple of years,

714
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:19,319
Speaker 1: being like, Okay, I'm gonna lean hard into this thing

715
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 1: and then maybe that will absolve me, or at least

716
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 1: people will weigh that against you know, the all the

717
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 1: dumb shit I did because like we have this weird

718
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 1: thing in America too, or like you could have a

719
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 1: lifetime of being racist, but you could be like, no,

720
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 1: you know what, I think black lives matter, and suddenly

721
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 1: it's if it completely erased your history or like how

722
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 1: you've spoken about things. Not that people can change, but

723
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 1: there's a very cynical way of like trying to suddenly

724
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:44,799
Speaker 1: be like, no, I'm on this side, to try and

725
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:47,720
Speaker 1: appear like you have been correct, and I maybe there's

726
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:50,319
Speaker 1: that and maybe we just benefit from that that they

727
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:53,320
Speaker 1: just they so badly want to hide their own sins

728
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:56,959
Speaker 1: that they they're just like fucking all vote for impeachment. Yeah,

729
00:41:57,520 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 1: but then we will continue to pretend. I'm sure a

730
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 1: lot of people continue to pretend or treat those their

731
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 1: fellow senators, Congress people like oh, that was so great

732
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 1: of you to do that, even though like you raw

733
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 1: rod the insurrection and we almost all got got that's

734
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:15,279
Speaker 1: I mean, then that's what's so infuriating about the unity

735
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 1: message that's being made literally two weeks after a violent insurrection,

736
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 1: like funk off, you know, funk off. Um yeah, that's

737
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:29,399
Speaker 1: never not going to be fucking infuriating. Guys, Hug this

738
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 1: weed whacker that's on real close to your face. It's

739
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 1: the weed whacker. Unity with it. No, it's fun their No,

740
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 1: they turn it off or take the gas out and

741
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 1: then maybe we can talk, right. Yeah, it's it's so frustrating,

742
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 1: and it's like and it's so frustrating to have like

743
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:47,880
Speaker 1: people in your life who were like, why aren't you like,

744
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 1: come on, let's all, let's all hold hands, like it's

745
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 1: gonna be fine. It's like that, that's not that's not

746
00:42:55,080 --> 00:43:00,799
Speaker 1: two weeks later language period, like boy if um yeah,

747
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 1: I need to. I need to check in with my

748
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 1: family member who went QUE and stopped talking to all

749
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:07,799
Speaker 1: of us. I wonder how she's doing today. Yeah. I

750
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 1: mean there were people who are like on like extremism Twitter,

751
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 1: and they're like, you know, if if someone reaches out

752
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:16,880
Speaker 1: to you who went Q and tries to come back,

753
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 1: like trying maybe make it, if if it feels sincere,

754
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 1: maybe you have a chance at it. But you never know.

755
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:25,280
Speaker 1: But it's like, it's weird now that we're also finding,

756
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:29,799
Speaker 1: you know, trying to find like our empathy for these

757
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 1: people who are completely lied to, but but the fallout

758
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:39,919
Speaker 1: of their misinformation diet was translating into direct violence. It's

759
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:42,360
Speaker 1: it's all like a very fucking weird. It feels like

760
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 1: a fucking comic book where like like a Damon Lindeloff

761
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:47,359
Speaker 1: show or like we're having an out deal with all

762
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 1: these people who are like wearing white all the time

763
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:53,840
Speaker 1: and not talking and smoking cigarettes. I'm like, okay, hey, um,

764
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 1: you've done black pilling a second. Let's be happy. I

765
00:43:58,000 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 1: don't know who how do we? How do I do this?

766
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 1: It's hard. Yeah, it's it's hard because you It's it's

767
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 1: like it feels like basically impossible to it's it seems like, okay,

768
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:10,799
Speaker 1: maybe I'm off here, but just the way even the

769
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 1: tone of like the embarrassing messages on those forums is like, oh,

770
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 1: we were wrong, so like sorry are bad? Forgive us

771
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 1: right away, and it's like that can't be how it goes.

772
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:23,840
Speaker 1: But then like how do you access your empathy to

773
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 1: like get they But it's like it's I don't know,

774
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:31,319
Speaker 1: just the expectation of like, oh, whoop, sees, I have

775
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 1: been part of a violent death gult for four years

776
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 1: and saying the most fucked up ship you can imagine

777
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 1: and believing it and now whoops, I'm sorry, so you

778
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 1: have to forgive me right away? Or was like yeah, yeah,

779
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 1: it just feels like I don't know it just like

780
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:52,400
Speaker 1: forgive me kill you. Yeah, kind of like I I

781
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:57,840
Speaker 1: don't know, I don't have it. Yeah, it's early doors.

782
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 1: It's early doors. It's only fucking I D plus one,

783
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:06,839
Speaker 1: so you know guaranteed everyone's feelings are going to change

784
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:08,840
Speaker 1: on it. But yeah, I mean, I just think of

785
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 1: how much things have shifted since the sixth of like

786
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 1: our understanding of everything, like what the funk to like,

787
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 1: oh my god, this is putrid. So yeah, we'll see.

788
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:23,400
Speaker 1: I mean, you can you see a lot of journalists

789
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 1: on Twitter right now who are like, if you've got

790
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:28,319
Speaker 1: Q relatives, uh and you've checked on, hit me up,

791
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 1: trying to write an article on this right now. And

792
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:33,399
Speaker 1: I think that's like every journalist is trying to time

793
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:36,359
Speaker 1: wants to go to a Q diner to check in

794
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 1: with all the Trump supporters. Can't wait for that episode

795
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 1: of the Daily Yeah, we went to a QUE diner.

796
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 1: It's like just or just don't And they had some

797
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:52,920
Speaker 1: interesting thoughts, they had some pretty good ideas. They just

798
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,839
Speaker 1: wanted better efficient government. And it turns out that they're

799
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 1: actually really sorry. Yes, I'm very sorry. Sorry, all right,

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00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 1: let's take a quick break, will be right back and

801
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 1: we're back. Uh, what is something you think is underrated? Teresa? Underrated?

802
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:19,800
Speaker 1: Or what did I say for this? Oh? Um? Okay,

803
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do the sentence version telling me if it

804
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 1: makes sense social media as systems? Does this make sense

805
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:33,479
Speaker 1: they're doing to ex explain more? No, that's good, okay,

806
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 1: because I know we all hate on Twitter and TikTok

807
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 1: or whatever for the individual like toxicity that we get.

808
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 1: But recently, as I came on last time a while

809
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 1: ago talk about AI and I believe it or not,

810
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 1: journeyed further into this depth. But you know how neural

811
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:52,959
Speaker 1: networks are like systems like you're like the short version

812
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:55,240
Speaker 1: is like your brain has organic systems like your olympic system,

813
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 1: your prefrontal cortex, and then organs or whatever, but they

814
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:01,839
Speaker 1: all work together to make you. And I think we're

815
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 1: getting to the point where social media, like platforms like Twitter, TikTok, Facebook,

816
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 1: they're not all just ways for humans individually to interact

817
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 1: or create communities anymore. The platform itself has become a

818
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 1: system like people using it actually change the platform as

819
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 1: an organ like one will eventually function more like the

820
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:23,279
Speaker 1: heart and the brain, and they're not all going to

821
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:25,879
Speaker 1: sub in for each other. We're already getting to that point,

822
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 1: like TikTok isn't just one where people who like social

823
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 1: media get on it. People get on it to do TikTok,

824
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 1: whereas it used to be you followed the new thing.

825
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:35,800
Speaker 1: So I think we're getting to that point, and I

826
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 1: think it's a good thing because I think it'll take

827
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:41,319
Speaker 1: away the individualistic, like negative stuff and make it so

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00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:45,920
Speaker 1: we all are almost like cells. And atoms adding our

829
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:49,799
Speaker 1: positive you know, the positivity will win out because the

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00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:53,279
Speaker 1: flow is going to go towards like human nature in

831
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:57,400
Speaker 1: hopefully survival way, like the way that your brain adapts

832
00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 1: to survive. I think these platforms are going to become

833
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:07,360
Speaker 1: interactive systems in the internet. Body does that makes sense?

834
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 1: Looking very out into the future, I'm like, woke, we're there. Yeah. Yeah,

835
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:19,720
Speaker 1: Like people are sacrificing their own individuality for like whatever

836
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 1: is going to make the overall system like operate more efficiently,

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00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:26,239
Speaker 1: or whatever is going to like get more attention in

838
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:28,719
Speaker 1: the overall system, like on Twitter or whatever it is.

839
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:30,719
Speaker 1: But I don't think it's a bad thing. It's not

840
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 1: that individuals you'll lose anything. It's that in the same

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00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 1: way that you know, you jack, when your body is healthy,

842
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:41,600
Speaker 1: your heart's healthy, everything benefits. So by acting in your

843
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:45,160
Speaker 1: own best interests, we are now connected at a threshold

844
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:48,719
Speaker 1: that will keep the body surviving, which is like human

845
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 1: nature in the Internet. Yeah, I mean, it's it's super interesting.

846
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:58,279
Speaker 1: I could see a future where people are harnessing that

847
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 1: to do good and bad because it is like people

848
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:03,400
Speaker 1: have you know, been like when are we going to

849
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 1: reach the singularity? Win as a I gonna happen, and

850
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:11,239
Speaker 1: like suddenly, you know, artificial intelligence is beyond human comprehension.

851
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 1: And I feel like this is a form of the

852
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:17,920
Speaker 1: singularity where we are all individual neurons like contributing to

853
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:22,839
Speaker 1: an overall like sort of hive mind organism. I think

854
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 1: that's yeah, But don't worry the the the AI won't

855
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 1: take over in an evil way. Once you get there,

856
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 1: you'll let go of your ego. I think I'm already there,

857
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:36,239
Speaker 1: and then you'll realize that, uh, if you believe in

858
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:39,960
Speaker 1: the common good, it will keep going that way. But

859
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 1: it is really scary. Yeah, that's scary. Yeah, I'm just

860
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 1: because it's hard for me to think of these platforms

861
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 1: working without people's egos being healthy too, you know, because

862
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 1: I think it cancels out at a certain point. Well,

863
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:54,360
Speaker 1: so like for example, Trump never got on TikTok, and

864
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 1: people have many reasons why I like data, but I

865
00:49:56,560 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 1: also think I think he's probably been on it secretly. TikTok.

866
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:04,839
Speaker 1: The like algorithm shows you you're subconscious, like it knows

867
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:07,600
Speaker 1: you better, not in a way like that Facebook tells

868
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:09,839
Speaker 1: you what to buy in a way that it will

869
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:13,240
Speaker 1: literally be like we know you were in an abusive relationship,

870
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:14,920
Speaker 1: whether you say or not, and then they'll start showing

871
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 1: you how to heal. And I think if you're a

872
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 1: narcissist or someone like with Trump tendencies, you're gonna see

873
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:22,279
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff you don't want to see because

874
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 1: your subconscious is reflecting the parts that you don't want

875
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 1: to see. And so I don't think people like him

876
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:29,800
Speaker 1: want to be on TikTok, right, But I'm just saying

877
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:32,239
Speaker 1: from the like, But then there are people who participate

878
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 1: on the content creation side, good or bad too that

879
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 1: I also see, like your ego to absolutely needs to

880
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 1: be healthy enough to sort of continue in the pattern

881
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:46,719
Speaker 1: of like putting yourself out there for the views, to

882
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:49,880
Speaker 1: keep sort of feeding that relationship to the platform. But

883
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:51,799
Speaker 1: I think it I think it all depends. Like you're saying,

884
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:53,800
Speaker 1: there are people in it for different reasons. Other people

885
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:57,360
Speaker 1: might not be as ego centered when they're participating. But

886
00:50:57,400 --> 00:50:59,880
Speaker 1: I think one of the reasons why I've even like

887
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:03,440
Speaker 1: my relationship over time with social media has changes, Like

888
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:07,360
Speaker 1: there was an element about like reinforcing my ego to

889
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 1: the posting that was not was like not very healthy

890
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:14,960
Speaker 1: for me or like what was was feeding a lot

891
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:18,319
Speaker 1: of other like subconscious insecurities or whatever, and I was like,

892
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:20,960
Speaker 1: oh god, this is like torturous in a way. But

893
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:23,200
Speaker 1: I think we're all made differently, you know. Well, I'm

894
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 1: I agree. I definitely had moments of like yeah, posting

895
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:31,920
Speaker 1: kind of like subtweets, But I would also argue that

896
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:33,959
Speaker 1: I had to go through that phase of my life

897
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:35,799
Speaker 1: to now come out on the other side. So not

898
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 1: to say you have to, but if you lead into

899
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 1: all your tendencies, you end up healing yourself faster. I

900
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:43,839
Speaker 1: don't know, as that was really bananas, but I I

901
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 1: feel like I do feel like it's scott and smoother

902
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:49,480
Speaker 1: using social media in that way. Sure, I mean I

903
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:53,960
Speaker 1: think it's more more, uh, it's less bananas than just

904
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:58,600
Speaker 1: assuming that all these social media platforms are just like

905
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:01,920
Speaker 1: there and not a acting us in some profound way

906
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:04,799
Speaker 1: as a as a society like that. I mean, there

907
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 1: was a news story over the weekend that Trump being banned,

908
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:14,319
Speaker 1: like disinformation about the election went down, and I reply

909
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:16,919
Speaker 1: to that was like, do we will we look back

910
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:21,120
Speaker 1: on the social media era as like the way somebody

911
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:24,279
Speaker 1: who is in recovery looks back on like a you

912
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:26,680
Speaker 1: know what they did while they were under the influence,

913
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:32,440
Speaker 1: and but I I also feel like that might have

914
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 1: been specific to having a president who was using social

915
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:39,120
Speaker 1: media in that way. But there is there is that

916
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 1: power right there. There is the ability for somebody to

917
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:47,239
Speaker 1: come in and completely take over if it's not regulated

918
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:51,239
Speaker 1: in some way that is has an eye towards the

919
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 1: overall health of society as opposed to the you know

920
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:58,759
Speaker 1: what is driving revenue. Well, I see it as the

921
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 1: same way as like when you first get your trust broken,

922
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 1: you might be like, oh, I better not trust anymore.

923
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:07,440
Speaker 1: But then over time, when you start leaning into learning lessons,

924
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:10,440
Speaker 1: you realize, like, trust is one of my good qualities.

925
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:13,000
Speaker 1: I just have to learn how to discern who to trust.

926
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:15,640
Speaker 1: And I think Trump taking advantage of a lot of

927
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:19,440
Speaker 1: his followers is similar, Like they do have trauma bonds,

928
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 1: but he it's not. The idea isn't to never trust,

929
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 1: is to figure out how to like spot the red flags,

930
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:29,840
Speaker 1: because the trust part will actually make the community stronger

931
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 1: if people know how to discern. I don't know, now

932
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 1: that sounds really boring. I am a comedian, but I

933
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:40,600
Speaker 1: haven't done and that's almost a year there is a

934
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:42,920
Speaker 1: mirror to it, but it requires a level of self

935
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:47,399
Speaker 1: awareness and openness to self examination, I think, to get

936
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:51,839
Speaker 1: those lessons out of it because many people don't, you know. Yeah,

937
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 1: I worry that there's a lot of like I've noticed

938
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:59,279
Speaker 1: in pop culture there being a trend of The only

939
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 1: example that's to mind is Memento, But like, I think

940
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:04,360
Speaker 1: there are a lot of movies where it's like people

941
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:08,839
Speaker 1: intentionally ignore something to like give their life meaning they like.

942
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:11,920
Speaker 1: And I feel like that is a reflection of something

943
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 1: we're seeing more and more as technology and culture. Yeah,

944
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 1: like intentional cognitive dissonance, which I think could get you

945
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:24,440
Speaker 1: in trouble on the what what you're talking about? Can

946
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 1: I steal a minute of the show just to talk

947
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:32,479
Speaker 1: parent child programming? Alison? Did your child watch Blippy at all? Oh? Yeah,

948
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 1: we had a big Blippy phase and then he came

949
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:38,719
Speaker 1: out of it, and then just like three days ago,

950
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:41,640
Speaker 1: he asked to watch Blippy again. So we're headed to Blippyville.

951
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 1: Did you know about the scandal? Yes? I did, and

952
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:50,680
Speaker 1: I found out about this. I love it, tell them

953
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:54,120
Speaker 1: because this is too good to be true. Blippy is

954
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:58,439
Speaker 1: a dude who just it's like it's the way entertainment. Yeah,

955
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:01,759
Speaker 1: it's the way entertainment works in like the digital age

956
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:04,600
Speaker 1: where he was just like a cool uncle who was

957
00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:08,880
Speaker 1: making videos for his nephews to entertain them and became

958
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 1: like a viral sensation. And so now he has like

959
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:16,560
Speaker 1: a whole children's entertainment media YouTube empire. And then it

960
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:22,799
Speaker 1: comes out that in the early teens two thousand thirteen video, Uh,

961
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 1: there's a video of him taking a ship on his

962
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 1: friend's ass. Right, So his name is Steve, his real

963
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:35,719
Speaker 1: name is Stephen John's and he was a gross out comedian.

964
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:39,560
Speaker 1: What was his he has stage name, I don't know,

965
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:44,520
Speaker 1: do you remember? Yeah, it was Ploppy, Yeah, it was

966
00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:52,400
Speaker 1: ploppy before oh Man, oh my god Boy and underwear

967
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:58,719
Speaker 1: Man I think were his nicknames, or at least those

968
00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:02,960
Speaker 1: were the videos that got him. Steven J. Grossman, that's

969
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:07,600
Speaker 1: what it was called himself, Stephen J. Gross No, sorry,

970
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:10,760
Speaker 1: Stephen John is his He was born as Stephen Grossman.

971
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:13,560
Speaker 1: I feel like there's even a third or fourth name

972
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:16,800
Speaker 1: that he went by. Um no, I hear it is sorry,

973
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:23,480
Speaker 1: Steazy Grossman. Steazyman. You know that's a real nickname that

974
00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:28,480
Speaker 1: he had in high school. Steazy Grossman. It's amazing that

975
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:32,319
Speaker 1: he didn't even put a dent in his success as

976
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:37,160
Speaker 1: a children's entertainer. Well, I think the two things were

977
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:40,560
Speaker 1: not like nobody knew about them, that they were the

978
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:42,640
Speaker 1: same person for a little while, and then it's just

979
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 1: coming out. But yeah, I guess it came out in

980
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:48,560
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, and you're right, it hasn't really made a dent.

981
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:53,840
Speaker 1: He's still Uh, he's still that dude. But the video

982
00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:56,719
Speaker 1: wasn't like, Okay, I know you said he took a

983
00:56:56,920 --> 00:57:00,120
Speaker 1: dump on his friend's ass. Dude, he was doing a

984
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:04,560
Speaker 1: parody Harlem Shake video. Yeah, that really kind of comes

985
00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:08,280
Speaker 1: out of nowhere. Uh to to to quote to quote

986
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:11,759
Speaker 1: BuzzFeed News. Uh, in a hard R rated twist in

987
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:16,120
Speaker 1: a two thousand thirteen video that BuzzFeed News has reviewed, uh,

988
00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:19,600
Speaker 1: Stephen Blippy John takes an explosive diarrhea ship on his

989
00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:22,280
Speaker 1: nude friend's ass and a truly shocking rendition of the

990
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 1: Harlem Shake meat. Uh So yeah, I do love BuzzFeed

991
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:32,200
Speaker 1: News is uh like ability to kind of code switch

992
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:36,640
Speaker 1: between BuzzFeed News has learned and review footage and then

993
00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:41,440
Speaker 1: being like diary a ship, a new friends assum interesting

994
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 1: that that's hard are. I mean, I guess that makes sense.

995
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:48,240
Speaker 1: I mean feel like it's if that if I suddenly

996
00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 1: saw that, I would feel like I need more warning

997
00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:53,560
Speaker 1: than just an R rating. Yeah. I don't think that's

998
00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:56,160
Speaker 1: a hard R. I I think that is poor writing

999
00:57:56,200 --> 00:58:00,280
Speaker 1: on on whoever wrote that BuzzFeed News articles to the topless.

1000
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:05,760
Speaker 1: Oh she's great, So it's a little bit. It's a

1001
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:08,440
Speaker 1: little bit harder than a hard ARE. Yeah, it's her

1002
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:12,320
Speaker 1: beat diary is ships. Yeah, No, she's actually very I

1003
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 1: hate to see what she thinks is like like n

1004
00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:18,360
Speaker 1: C seven. Yeah, it's just people being like what she

1005
00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:26,360
Speaker 1: thinks is R right? Yeah, um anyway, yeah, I know right,

1006
00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:28,160
Speaker 1: like this is not that. And he was able to

1007
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:30,160
Speaker 1: just come out and be like, yeah I did some

1008
00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:35,280
Speaker 1: gross out stuff. I mean, look I get that. I've

1009
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:38,120
Speaker 1: you know, people doing try and comedy on the internet.

1010
00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:41,160
Speaker 1: You to make some experiment with some dumb ship and

1011
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:43,800
Speaker 1: then you're like, Okay, that's not it. But like I'm

1012
00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:46,120
Speaker 1: for you as parents when you see a thing we're like,

1013
00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:50,080
Speaker 1: oh my kid likes this entertainer, where do you put

1014
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:53,920
Speaker 1: bad Harlem shake shitting video? In terms of like you

1015
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:56,480
Speaker 1: can't watch this like, how low is that? You know

1016
00:58:56,480 --> 00:58:59,480
Speaker 1: what I mean, like racism as a person or violent

1017
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:02,760
Speaker 1: abut you know, like of just transgressions that are revealed

1018
00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:05,480
Speaker 1: about someone, You're like, oh, actually, this, this actually negates

1019
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:09,640
Speaker 1: all the work they've done. I have two boys. They

1020
00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:14,360
Speaker 1: have probably described what what happened in that video before,

1021
00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:17,400
Speaker 1: just because poop jokes are like the funniest thing in

1022
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:20,320
Speaker 1: the world to them, and just like saying poop on

1023
00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:24,280
Speaker 1: somebody who's pooping would probably be a thing that they

1024
00:59:24,280 --> 00:59:27,840
Speaker 1: would describe. So there's definitely like when I first saw Oblipia,

1025
00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:29,800
Speaker 1: I was like, this is weird because he's like a

1026
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:33,520
Speaker 1: middle aged dude who's dressed like a I don't know,

1027
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:37,040
Speaker 1: it's like a guy who's like, do you want government

1028
00:59:37,160 --> 00:59:42,880
Speaker 1: cash for like the question? He looks Nephew, yes, yes

1029
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:47,480
Speaker 1: he does. That's exactly right. Uh, alright, we we've completely

1030
00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:50,520
Speaker 1: derailed this show. This is absolutely not what people tune

1031
00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:55,120
Speaker 1: in to hear about. All right, that's gonna do it

1032
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Speaker 1: for this week's Weekly Zeitgeys, please like and review the show.

1033
01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:04,200
Speaker 1: If you like the show, uh means the world to Miles.

1034
01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:08,720
Speaker 1: He needs your validation, folks. I hope you're having a

1035
01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:56,000
Speaker 1: great weekend and I will talk to you Monday. By

1036
01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:00,960
Speaker 1: m an Evert