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Speaker 2: Welcome to I said, no gifts. I'm Richard Wyneker. We're

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Speaker 2: here at the beginning of the podcast, so you know,

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Speaker 2: for the next hour or so, I hope you can

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Speaker 2: So if you're out there driving, try to take some

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Speaker 2: What am I talking about here? What am I doing?

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Speaker 2: This is why I need to Just if I spent

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Speaker 2: I'm thrilled about today's guest. Who wouldn't be It's Tony Hale. Tony,

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Speaker 2: welcome to I said, no gifts.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for having me. You're doing such a service

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Speaker 3: for your listeners and putting them in the real, meditative space.

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Speaker 2: It's the least I can do.

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, that's so kind of you.

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Speaker 2: Thank you. Thank you for recognizing that occasionally someone recognizes

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Speaker 2: And also a service for America's drivers.

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Speaker 3: Really is it? Really is? I mean, I just love

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Speaker 2: Ten, count to ten. How are you as a driver?

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Speaker 3: It is? It is? And I think I want to

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Speaker 2: Was he lost at sea? What?

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Speaker 3: No? I think he was in prison for akay and uh,

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Speaker 3: but yeah, we just I don't know. We don't hear

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Speaker 2: Well Russell. If you're out there listening to he is.

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Speaker 3: I don't think he is.

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Speaker 2: Don't count him out, Tony. We can change, We can

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Speaker 2: find new podcasts.

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Speaker 3: That is true.

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Speaker 2: That is true, regardless of being lost at sea or

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Speaker 3: She did, she did to apologize, to apologize. My my

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Speaker 3: And what's the origin of that.

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Speaker 3: So there's shame attached to your name.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of shame. I think that's where most

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Speaker 2: the pronunciation of my name. Who cares? How are you doing?

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Speaker 3: I care? I'm good, I'm good, I'm I have a

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Speaker 2: I'm just going to get around to that.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you, and so I don't know if

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Speaker 2: Well, if it's on there for more than five days,

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Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 3: It's so delightful. It is so. I mean, I'm from Tallahassee, Florida,

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Speaker 2: Well, look, I'm from Utah, which is also very chain

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Speaker 2: I'll do in in and out shake. I need. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I don't want to be spooning it into my mouth.

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Speaker 3: So you don't like a frosty from Wendy's. It's I don't.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate the general concept, and I love the idea of,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but ultimately turning it upside down.

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Speaker 2: What do you put in your what do you get

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Speaker 3: Thank you for asking, Richard. I really like my from

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Speaker 2: Blizzard, Tony. What you're saying right now, I am absolutely

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Speaker 3: Well, let me tell you right, this is why you're

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Speaker 2: You're giving yourself like a hike through an arctic situation

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Speaker 2: I don't know. Do you like a milkshake? Do you

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Speaker 3: I like you in and out. I like the chocolate

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Speaker 2: That's like cheesecake factory.

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Speaker 2: Well, but it sounds like you're having a wonderful time

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Speaker 3: And I love that. I'm throwing out this huge smorgasport

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Speaker 2: Oh my god? Well, I mean, speaking of things I

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Speaker 3: Okay, are you my uncle Russell.

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Speaker 2: Tony? It's me Russ.

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Speaker 3: You're younger than me. How is this possible.

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Speaker 2: I'm traveling through time? No, I was. I was outside

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Speaker 2: normal trip past Tony's house. This is different. Something's different.

438
00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:11,520
Speaker 2: There's something in the air.

439
00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:14,800
Speaker 3: This is a Tuesday, this is the other day, Yes.

440
00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:19,720
Speaker 2: And so I you know, I thought, well, Tony'll be

441
00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:23,560
Speaker 2: on the podcast later today, maybe I can get some answers. Then,

442
00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:28,840
Speaker 2: so I drove home in that streaming. I know, but

443
00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:34,359
Speaker 2: life surprises us. It really does coincidence. You know, we

444
00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:38,120
Speaker 2: never quite know what's happening. But you know, I drove

445
00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:45,000
Speaker 2: back home in an absolute rage, screaming at you at

446
00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:48,800
Speaker 2: other drivers. Got into the house, cooled down, had had

447
00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:53,280
Speaker 2: a glass of water, went to lunch, chatted with some friends.

448
00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:57,439
Speaker 2: They suggested, you know, confront Tony, which I was planning

449
00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:00,480
Speaker 2: to do anyway. So is this a gift for me?

450
00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:03,879
Speaker 3: That is a gift for you? Oh? Interesting, that is

451
00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,240
Speaker 3: a gift for you. Have you opened it yet? I haven't.

452
00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:07,520
Speaker 2: I have this bag here.

453
00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:09,040
Speaker 3: Oh I'm excited.

454
00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:11,800
Speaker 2: I'm happy to open it here on the podcast if

455
00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:13,120
Speaker 2: that's what you'd.

456
00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,359
Speaker 3: Like, I'd love to because I'd love to share it

457
00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:17,000
Speaker 3: with you while you see it.

458
00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:36,439
Speaker 2: Okay, And I will say, this is a nicely wrapped bag.

459
00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:39,400
Speaker 2: It's like a little brown It's not a grocery bag.

460
00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:42,240
Speaker 2: It's kind of a grocery adjacent, but it's obviously a

461
00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:42,879
Speaker 2: gift bag.

462
00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:45,919
Speaker 3: I'd say it's a little bit it's a trendy gift bag.

463
00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:48,879
Speaker 2: Yes, it's like it's just a nice brown bag with

464
00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:50,720
Speaker 2: some blue tissue which we'll pull out.

465
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:52,840
Speaker 3: There a blue tissue that I got at Target.

466
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:56,200
Speaker 2: I've recently been told I can't open the gift as

467
00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:58,479
Speaker 2: close to the microphone as I've done in the past.

468
00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:01,360
Speaker 2: Our audio engineer a freaked out.

469
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:05,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, however, I think you should have an ASMR episode

470
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:08,360
Speaker 3: of all your gift giving opening that all people might

471
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:09,320
Speaker 3: like that we should.

472
00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:11,960
Speaker 2: We should do a mega mix where we just get

473
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 2: the crinkles from one hundred episodes.

474
00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:16,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, because you're not going to get Target tissue paper

475
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 3: from the others.

476
00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,159
Speaker 2: Okay, let's I'm going to pull this out. We'll get

477
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:24,640
Speaker 2: some tissue. I'm not looking at the gift yet. I'm

478
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:28,480
Speaker 2: feeling I'm feeling we're unwrapping. I like to just get

479
00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:30,760
Speaker 2: it completely out before I even see the gift. I

480
00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,320
Speaker 2: get it, I get your surprise value.

481
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:37,720
Speaker 3: What.

482
00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:41,760
Speaker 2: Okay, So this is what I've just opened. Is either

483
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:46,880
Speaker 2: a hat or a bowl. It's a bull Okay, it's

484
00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:50,240
Speaker 2: like kind of a woven bowl. It's a rope ball,

485
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:51,679
Speaker 2: a rope bowl.

486
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:53,200
Speaker 3: I made that for you.

487
00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:55,240
Speaker 2: That that can't possibly be true.

488
00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:57,639
Speaker 3: No, I made that for you because they well the

489
00:24:57,840 --> 00:24:59,719
Speaker 3: listeners can sit there as you see, they said your

490
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:04,280
Speaker 3: favorite color is green. Yes, so I painted that rope.

491
00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 3: And then if you look on the tag initial.

492
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:10,920
Speaker 2: You actually made this for me as my initials on it. Yes,

493
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 2: this is such a professional looking product.

494
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 3: I really enjoy making rope bowls. It's like adative practice

495
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 3: for me.

496
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:22,119
Speaker 2: What I mean this is a listener first, I just

497
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 2: want to tell you this looks like it was made

498
00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,560
Speaker 2: by a machine, and not in a bad way.

499
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,080
Speaker 3: I'm a pretty emotionless person, so that makes sense.

500
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 2: This looks like it was created by an AI program

501
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 2: designed to kill at tracks. No, but it's like it's

502
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:44,040
Speaker 2: first of all, about a week ago I was asked

503
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:48,440
Speaker 2: what my favorite color was. No one was with no context.

504
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,879
Speaker 2: So this was made within a week. This looks to

505
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:55,119
Speaker 2: me like a product that would take me decades, and

506
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:58,080
Speaker 2: I'm not getting decades of work to do now.

507
00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:01,320
Speaker 3: This is I really Okay, So I really love doing

508
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,439
Speaker 3: rope bulls. There's a lady named Shauna who gave me

509
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,679
Speaker 3: a rope bowl. Okay. Was shooting the show I do

510
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 3: now called Mysterious Beneticts Society. I shot it last year

511
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:14,879
Speaker 3: in Vancouver during the pandemic, and this lady, same Shauna,

512
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 3: gave me a rope bull and I started getting really

513
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 3: fascinated with it. And so then I youtubed did and

514
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 3: just spent a lot of time. And then making rope

515
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:26,640
Speaker 3: balls became like my pandemic kind of meditative practice, right,

516
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,480
Speaker 3: And I love giving them, and so I love to

517
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:32,520
Speaker 3: find out the color, and then I love to paint it.

518
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:34,399
Speaker 3: I'm not I don't, I'm not a painter, but I

519
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:37,879
Speaker 3: love to. I think I love painting, right, And then uh,

520
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 3: and then you you there's a whole practice of making

521
00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:42,679
Speaker 3: the bowl, almost like a little bit like pottery, molding

522
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 3: the bowl. And then I bought a letter press for

523
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:50,400
Speaker 3: leather and just went to town and I love it.

524
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 2: So, okay, I have a number of questions. First of all,

525
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 2: so this is entirely self taught through YouTube? Is that right?

526
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,399
Speaker 3: And my friend Shawna cause she would I would, I would,

527
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:03,680
Speaker 3: she would send me a little videos of her making one,

528
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,679
Speaker 3: and then uh, and then so I would study that

529
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:08,200
Speaker 3: and then I would get on YouTube and I would

530
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 3: just kind of learn the technique and I just really

531
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,399
Speaker 3: love it. I make purses to well. I made a

532
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 3: purse from my daughter went to like a Christmas formal

533
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 3: was it a Christmas form or something kind of? It

534
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 3: was like a dance at her school, and so I

535
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 3: made a little rope ball or not rope ball, but

536
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 3: a rope purse, and then I engraved leather thing her

537
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 3: initials and then the dance. It was really fun.

538
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 2: This is incredible?

539
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:33,919
Speaker 3: Is it?

540
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,439
Speaker 2: Was it difficult to learn or did it just come

541
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:37,119
Speaker 2: naturally to you?

542
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 3: It was difficult to learn, But once I got the

543
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:43,400
Speaker 3: knack of it, it it's just like I love it. It's

544
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,640
Speaker 3: taken over my dining room. My wife's not crazy about it.

545
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:49,200
Speaker 2: Market in there.

546
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:53,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like leather and leather embosser and paint and stuff.

547
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 3: But and it's just really I put on these headphones

548
00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 3: that you're looking at right now, use and then just

549
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:01,400
Speaker 3: go to town.

550
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 2: So how long does like did this bowl take you

551
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:04,920
Speaker 2: to make?

552
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 3: That took about I'd say two. Well not, it's like

553
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 3: one day you do the painting, you let that dry,

554
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 3: and then you sow the rope and then you emboss

555
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 3: You cut the leather, then you emboss it, and then

556
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 3: you kind of let that and then you you kind

557
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:21,879
Speaker 3: of sometimes you have to stay in the leather. But

558
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,679
Speaker 3: I liked the natural letter against the greens, right. That

559
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,200
Speaker 3: was then I just kind of put a like a

560
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 3: finish on that.

561
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 2: And so you paint the rope when it's still unspooled.

562
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:36,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I set up my backyard. Now this is

563
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 3: turning sad. Now now it's turn of like crazy person.

564
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 3: So I take the rope, I click it on one side,

565
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 3: and then I connect it to the chair, and then

566
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 3: I just painted like strung out right, and my daughter

567
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 3: is inside with her friend just like, oh God, don't

568
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 3: go outside, don't go outside, Please, don't go outside and

569
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 3: see what my dad's doing. And then yeah, so that's

570
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 3: when I painted. And then that dries, and then when

571
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 3: it's and then I get really exciting because when it dries,

572
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 3: like typically the next day, I get to pull it

573
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 3: off the thing and then I kind of spoil it

574
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 3: a little bit, and then I bring it into the

575
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 3: dining room into the workshop and then and that's where

576
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 3: I sew it.

577
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 2: And how long of a piece of rope did this take.

578
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 3: I think that was probably like fifty fifty yards. And

579
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 3: then if you see there's also on the other side,

580
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 3: there's like a little logo do you see that.

581
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 2: Yes, I was going to ask about this. It's like

582
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 2: kind of a mysterious number combination.

583
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, that is based on a scriptured number six twenty

584
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 3: four through twenty six, And it's a blessing of God.

585
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 3: May the Lord bless you and keep you and pick

586
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 3: us make us face out upon you. So it's a

587
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 3: blessing to you that God wills.

588
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:41,959
Speaker 2: It's kind of like the bottom of an in and

589
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 2: out cup.

590
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, but hopefully not as Yeah, I don't even know

591
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 3: what that scripture is as.

592
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 2: I'm not quite familiar with it either. Hopefully it's a

593
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,959
Speaker 2: good scripture. Well, this is so wonderful. So one hundred

594
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 2: this is essentially one hundred and fifty feet of rope?

595
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 3: Is I would know that's fifty fifty? Oh you're right, Sorry, No,

596
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 3: you're right, fifty yards fifty fifty fifty feet.

597
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 2: Of rope, fifty feet of rope. Yes, Because I was

598
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 2: going to say just one hundred and fifty would be extreme.

599
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 3: That would be extreme. Then you'd be like, Okay, now

600
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 3: he's lying.

601
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 2: I'm measuring your backyard in my head, I'm trying to

602
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 2: figure out how much room you're working with.

603
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I have a square ruler and then I'll

604
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 3: take rope that I get and then I'll wrap it

605
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 3: and get fifty feet and then cut it and that

606
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 3: that kind of makes about that size.

607
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 2: Bawl.

608
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 3: Now, if I want to do like a big rope

609
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 3: kind of hamper, which I'm working on now, then I

610
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 3: have to kind of get then I have to get

611
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 3: a lot obviously a lot more rope. And my wife

612
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 3: last night because she wanted to see if I could

613
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 3: do a hamper, and so it was it's kind of

614
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 3: a disaster and it's not working out. But she says, well,

615
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 3: I don't think that's the size. I'm like, just let

616
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 3: me please, I'm trying to I'm in a test ground.

617
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 2: Please, So like, for a hamper, for example, are you

618
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 2: using like a mold or you just I can't even

619
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 2: as someone who, as I've said before, is so horrible spatially,

620
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 2: I don't even understand how you begin to visualize how

621
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 2: this should work.

622
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 3: Well you, uh, okay, So if it's a hamper, you

623
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 3: kind of think about what the base of a hamper

624
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 3: you want it to be. So if you look at

625
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 3: the bottom of that bowl, the area that's flat, that

626
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 3: would be probably the base of the hamper, and then

627
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 3: you would begin to turn it to where it would

628
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 3: do that. So like that that small circle. When I

629
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 3: started to turn it, I always gauge do I want

630
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 3: it like a V bawl or do I want to

631
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 3: kind of a straight up like the ball? And I

632
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 3: wanted that to be a little more of a V.

633
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 3: It kind of looks like a bucket hat.

634
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 2: It could easily become a bucket.

635
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 3: Be an easy buck bucket hat, you know, not the

636
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 3: most attractive bucket hat, but it could be in that bucket.

637
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 2: No bucket hat has ever been a trad.

638
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 3: So then yeah, but the base kind of determines it.

639
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 2: Okay, And so where are you in the process with

640
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 2: the hamper?

641
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 3: I wonder if I have well, I guess your listeners

642
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 3: can't see it, but I have a picture of it.

643
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 3: It's it's not great. It's not great. It's like because

644
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 3: it's right now, I just keep going and it's not turning,

645
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 3: so it's just like now I'm just getting this huge circle. However,

646
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 3: I mean, this is however, what I learned. This is

647
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 3: how you kind of learned things from mistakes. I started

648
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 3: to make a hamper a year ago, and it was

649
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 3: just a disaster. And then I was like, what am

650
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,719
Speaker 3: I going to do with this large circle of you know,

651
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 3: sown rope, And that's when I formed that into like

652
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 3: a purse. And so out of confusion came another thing

653
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 3: that I can make.

654
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 2: A hamper becomes a purse.

655
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 3: And actually, even though your listeners can't see this movie,

656
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 3: we could describe this. I'll show you a picture of

657
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 3: what a purse looks like.

658
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 2: I'm very curious about your purse making skills.

659
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 3: So like, this is like a purse.

660
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 2: Oh, that's a great little clutch. It's a clutch kind

661
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 2: of like a almost clamshell clutch, yes, and does not

662
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 2: have to handle at the top.

663
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 3: It has a leather hand that leather handle that you

664
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 3: kind of that that you would I would, you know,

665
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 3: by a monogram or something with like a magnet, right,

666
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 3: But this is like a little another a little black.

667
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 2: Oh that's so stylish.

668
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 3: Clutch person, And I'll show you anyways. And then I

669
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 3: don't know if I have a picture of the one

670
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 3: I gave my daughter, but that was like a little

671
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 3: version of that. So that came out of this confusion

672
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 3: of what to do with this big circle thing that

673
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 3: was supposed to be a hamper.

674
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 2: I love that you're just constantly the real north star

675
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 2: for you as a hamper, and you're just headed towards hampers.

676
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 3: So I'm really curious what's going to come from this

677
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 3: disaster hamper working on no something else?

678
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, are you outside of your wife's request for a

679
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 2: hamper taking other requests or is it more of a

680
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 2: oh I'll try that and give it to somebody sort

681
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 2: of situation.

682
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 3: I just love it. It's like it's also like if

683
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 3: somebody there was this kind of thing, like this habitat

684
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 3: for humanity thing and they're like an auction item, then

685
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 3: I'll do a bowl for that and then so it's

686
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 3: just fun. I never want to the whole idea of

687
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 3: like for money, that's just that kind of takes the

688
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 3: joy out of it because it's just not fun. So

689
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 3: but it's really I love, love love giving them as

690
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 3: gifts and all that kind of stuff.

691
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 2: Have you had any bad reactions?

692
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 3: Well, I've had I have. I remember I gave it

693
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,799
Speaker 3: to h I was working on this job and I

694
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 3: and I gave it to another actor and then their

695
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 3: friend just kept wearing an on their head and uh,

696
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:17,399
Speaker 3: and I was like, oh, it's a hat. It's hat,

697
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 3: And I was like, all right, that's enough. It's not hat.

698
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:25,280
Speaker 2: That's that's rude behavior. That person's rude.

699
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 3: No, but it was, But I get it does look

700
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 3: like He'll show you one of my favorite we can

701
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:29,799
Speaker 3: describe this.

702
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 2: Could you make a hat? You know what?

703
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 3: I could? I guess I could. The rim, like the

704
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 3: rim of the hat would be tough, right, And I

705
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 3: think you have to find a real kind of that

706
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,320
Speaker 3: rope is pretty strong rope that you have, so it

707
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 3: kind of keeps its shape, right, But I think you'd

708
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:51,400
Speaker 3: have like a paracord would probably be like a better

709
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 3: hat because it's flexible. Yeah. Para cord is kind of

710
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 3: you know those you know, as kids, we'd make those

711
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 3: camp bracelets that kind of had the they were kind

712
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:01,359
Speaker 3: of woven and braided. Right, that's like a para cord,

713
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 3: so it's a little it has a little more flex

714
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:04,879
Speaker 3: to it. So I think that could maybe be a hat.

715
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 3: Where are you getting this rope? Is there like a

716
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 3: rope depot or is it? I get Walmart has good

717
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 3: rope a lot, and then I go on Amazon and

718
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 3: order rope wow. And then when I uh, you know,

719
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 3: I get really excited when I find out. Because I

720
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:23,799
Speaker 3: do like to paint the rope. I think that's fun.

721
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 3: But if if somebody wants like a purse, that's a

722
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,320
Speaker 3: like there's this friend of mine whose daughter wanted a

723
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 3: pink purse, and so I got a pink pair of

724
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:35,319
Speaker 3: pink para cord and make any pink purse for that.

725
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:38,719
Speaker 2: This is amazing. Have you ever been handy like this

726
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 2: or is this? Wow?

727
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:40,439
Speaker 1: No?

728
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 3: Not at all, not at all. And I have to

729
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 3: be honest, I've always wanted a hobby because anytime somebody said,

730
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 3: you know, oh my hobby is this or I collect this,

731
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 3: and I was just like I never I just never

732
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 3: could find it, you know, I just never And I

733
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 3: always was like I was, and I always wanted to paint.

734
00:35:56,640 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 3: I always wanted, you know, like Nick Offerman like a

735
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 3: guy and it makes it and I was like, God,

736
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 3: that's gonna be so And then I found this and

737
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 3: I just it's like, I love it. I really love it.

738
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 2: It's what were you doing with your time before that?

739
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 3: A lot of YouTube, A lot of what I I would.

740
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 3: It's funny I always go back to YouTube because I

741
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 3: would I would go on YouTube and be watching like

742
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:26,360
Speaker 3: two hours of compilation videos of like the Voice What Avoid,

743
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:28,759
Speaker 3: But I never wanted to see people rejected. I only

744
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:32,919
Speaker 3: wanted to see the people winning winning, or there were chosen.

745
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 3: They would always se these compilation videos of the blind auditions,

746
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 3: you know, where you can't see them and they turn

747
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 3: their chairs around, right, But I never wanted to see

748
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:42,360
Speaker 3: if anybody none of the chairs turned around. That was

749
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 3: just too much to watch. But I just liked scene

750
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,439
Speaker 3: after scene after see after seen of just those turn

751
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:49,919
Speaker 3: those chairs turning and everybody getting excited. That was fun

752
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:50,319
Speaker 3: to watch.

753
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:54,280
Speaker 2: I have a hard time with rejection on reality shows

754
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 2: as well, you know, like I remember a point. I

755
00:36:57,560 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 2: mean I did have strep throat at the time, so

756
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:03,799
Speaker 2: I was already weak physically and emotionally, but Shark Tank

757
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 2: made me cry because I was like, they are being

758
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,800
Speaker 2: too mean to this person. This person's just trying.

759
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 3: You also have to admit, I mean, you're in there,

760
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 3: you're in the business, and you know, like we're very

761
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:17,240
Speaker 3: kind of used to you know, pitching or putting yourself

762
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 3: out there and just kind of and you kind of

763
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:21,319
Speaker 3: exercise that muscle and after a while you're just like,

764
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 3: you know, another fail, another failure or rejection, and you

765
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 3: get these people are putting their life savings and things

766
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:30,280
Speaker 3: and then they're just getting rejected in front of national

767
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 3: you know, in front of a national audience. It's just like, oh,

768
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:34,840
Speaker 3: and even those kids would come on American Idol and

769
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 3: they brutal had never seen the spotlight and they're talented,

770
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 3: but not as talented as they need to be, and

771
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 3: then they're just like rejected people. So it feels like

772
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 3: it really does.

773
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 2: I think it's it's unfair and as someone who can't

774
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 2: even sing Happy Birthday, it really breaks my heart.

775
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 3: Do you like reality shows?

776
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,400
Speaker 2: I do. I like I've recently gotten into the Real

777
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 2: Housewives of Salt Lake City, but largely because I'm from

778
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 2: Salt Lake City, so that was just appealing.

779
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 3: Were you raised Mormon?

780
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 2: I was. My parents are still practicing Mormons, Okay, yeah,

781
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:12,880
Speaker 2: And then I was obviously just curious as to what

782
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 2: these Salt Lake City housewives would be up to another.

783
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 3: Is there a Mormon through through line or not?

784
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 2: Really? One of them is like two maybe two of

785
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:23,880
Speaker 2: them are ex Mormons. That's about as close to Mormonism

786
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 2: as the show gets.

787
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 3: Do you go back to Do you go back to

788
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:27,799
Speaker 3: Salt Lake life.

789
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 2: Yeah. I tried to get back a couple of times

790
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:29,839
Speaker 2: a year.

791
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 3: It's so beautiful.

792
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 2: Have you spent much time there just.

793
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 3: For like visits and stuff like that, but not much?

794
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 2: Right, the mountains are beautiful, It's there are a lot

795
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,760
Speaker 2: of beautiful things about Utah. There are some more difficult

796
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:48,879
Speaker 2: things for me personally, but of course, but I love

797
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 2: a lot of people there, and I love those housewives.

798
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:56,799
Speaker 3: I mean, so are they as energetic and colorful and

799
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 3: full of life as we'd say like the New York

800
00:38:58,680 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 3: Housewives or the Beverly.

801
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 2: Hills in a different way, in a lot of ways

802
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 2: much lower rent. I mean, bless all of their hearts,

803
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:07,839
Speaker 2: but they're not quite like you know, these Beverly Hills

804
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:10,919
Speaker 2: housewives have so much money. A lot of them are

805
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 2: truly super wealthy. Yeah, our Salt Lake City housewives. It's

806
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 2: a little more all over the map. Sometimes it feels

807
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 2: a little more scraping by to feel glamorous, sometimes like

808
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 2: the party is like happening in a strip mall.

809
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:28,280
Speaker 3: Sure, sure, but there is something to me very sad

810
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 3: of watching the Beverly Hills with that much, that much

811
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 3: resources and still so sad, and I mean greated obviously

812
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 3: that's not the equation for happiness or any kind of fulfillment.

813
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 3: But when you see the excess, and then you also

814
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 3: see that added with the trauma, and when I say colorful,

815
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 3: it's just that sense of like their life is so

816
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 3: just full of just unbelievable trauma. That's to me sometimes untreated.

817
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:56,399
Speaker 3: Oh you know a lot of this, and then they're

818
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:59,399
Speaker 3: putting it on national scale. It's just like, come on, man,

819
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:01,840
Speaker 3: just do this. Put the money in a therapist, you know,

820
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:02,759
Speaker 3: get you to do that.

821
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 2: Please spend a little. But yeah, a lot of these

822
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 2: women are just off the leash, or maybe that's they're

823
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:17,719
Speaker 2: just unhinged. Some unhinged women, and being on reality TV

824
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 2: is not probably not the solution, oh no.

825
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,839
Speaker 3: But there is that core, which I think is not

826
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 3: to get on a bit of a soapbox, but I

827
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:32,760
Speaker 3: think there's something about everybody wants to be known. Everybody

828
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 3: wants to be known, and then in our society people

829
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 3: look at known as how many Instagram followers do I have,

830
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:40,919
Speaker 3: how much attention do I have? How many people looking

831
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:43,239
Speaker 3: at me and finding out about me? That's that's going

832
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,880
Speaker 3: to fill that void of being known. But the fact

833
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,880
Speaker 3: is you know if you're loved by people who you know,

834
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 3: and that's all the known you need, and yet we

835
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 3: still haven't. And me as a person you know, who's

836
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 3: in the public eye or whatever that's I think it's

837
00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 3: I have more of awareness that because.

838
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:02,319
Speaker 2: It doesn't fill that voice. Absolutely not at all. No,

839
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 2: I mean, if if anything, it only makes the problem

840
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 2: feel bigger.

841
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, it puts a microscope on your trauma.

842
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:12,799
Speaker 2: Right, And yeah, I can't imagine what it would be

843
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 2: like to be on a television show where I'm being

844
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:20,320
Speaker 2: kind of just encouraged to fight with six other women

845
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 2: at all times.

846
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 3: It's yeah, and then they just throw a liquor in

847
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:24,479
Speaker 3: the mix.

848
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,360
Speaker 2: It's a lot of drunk behavior.

849
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:30,839
Speaker 3: Off the leash, is a perfect way to say it,

850
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 3: Just like completely let.

851
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:36,359
Speaker 2: Go all that said. I love them, we love them,

852
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 2: we love whatever's happening. It's a strange combination of pro

853
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 2: wrestling and daytime TV and soap operas and is an

854
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 2: interesting world that I've I've getting a peek into finally,

855
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 2: you know, I put it off for a long time,

856
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 2: and I can't look away. I don't know if that's

857
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 2: good or bad.

858
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 3: I know, have you seen the other ones? And you

859
00:41:57,560 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 3: have the same experience, or now.

860
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:05,280
Speaker 2: I want a little bit of the Orange County Housewives. Yeah,

861
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:07,760
Speaker 2: a little bit more boring. I was a little bored.

862
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 2: And I've seen some Jersey which is very colorful. Uh,

863
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 2: you know that's some true color happening there. And I

864
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:18,280
Speaker 2: think those are the three that I've kind of dipped

865
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:20,439
Speaker 2: my toe into. Do you watch much reality TV?

866
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 3: I've seen those some of those, But I will say

867
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 3: it does. I get to a place where it does

868
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:32,319
Speaker 3: make me angry, Like it's it's like, this isn't I mean,

869
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:34,799
Speaker 3: in general, it's probably not adding to our lives, but

870
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 3: it's when I found my just getting pissed. You know,

871
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 3: it's like I don't know that. So I stopped doing that.

872
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 3: But reality, I like a comp I don't mind a competition.

873
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:48,839
Speaker 3: Reality such as such as I really enjoy I used

874
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 3: to really enjoy Top Chef.

875
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:52,799
Speaker 2: Oh I feel like I would love Top Chef.

876
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I really enjoyed. Well, you don't eat that's gonna problem.

877
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 2: I eat a lot of food just because I'm not

878
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 2: throwing them a flurry down once a week.

879
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 3: Okay, So I like those competition shows, and then I

880
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 3: mean I really do.

881
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 2: My guest judged on RuPaul's Drag Race, Oh fantastic about.

882
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,359
Speaker 3: Two or three years a Clia Duval and I did,

883
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 3: and I loved it, and ever since then I got

884
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:23,799
Speaker 3: really we were I kept watching and really got hooked

885
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 3: to it. I just I love I think it's so fun,

886
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 3: such a fun watch and a feel good watch, a

887
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 3: feel good watch, and you and you hear their stories

888
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:36,280
Speaker 3: and and also my wife is a is a makeup artist,

889
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 3: and just the way that they the artistry on the

890
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 3: face of how their face just I mean I've known

891
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 3: makeup obviously changes faces and that's what. But like the

892
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:49,880
Speaker 3: contouring and all that kind of stuff. You just see

893
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 3: this face completely change is and obviously lighting and stuff

894
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 3: like that. But it's wild. It's wild. So I do

895
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 3: enjoy that.

896
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:58,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't imagine. I mean, it's kind of the

897
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:00,879
Speaker 2: rope we've of faces.

898
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it is. And it really is artistry. I

899
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 3: mean it's like that's and I don't know, I really

900
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:09,400
Speaker 3: really really enjoyed it.

901
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, those are some good reality shows. I watch a

902
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 2: decent amount of Survivor.

903
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:16,920
Speaker 3: Now, would you do Survivor?

904
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 2: I don't think I would. I think I would absolutely

905
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 2: crumble Day one.

906
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:23,799
Speaker 3: I would have a hard time. I mean, if I'm

907
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:27,799
Speaker 3: this much about a rash, then then I think it's

908
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:28,760
Speaker 3: it would not be pretty.

909
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:32,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think about the sun exposure. I think about that,

910
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:34,799
Speaker 2: like we get into day's seven and all we have

911
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 2: to eat is like half a cup of rice. It's

912
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:41,799
Speaker 2: a lot for me and you. I mean, I would

913
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:43,319
Speaker 2: have to do one of the ones where they're near

914
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:45,360
Speaker 2: an ocean. I'm kind of on the record is I

915
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 2: can't watch Survivor unless they have some sort of ocean

916
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 2: water to bathe in. I can't look at people who

917
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:51,840
Speaker 2: are like bathing in a dirty pond.

918
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, what about Amazing Race? Would you do Amazing Race?

919
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 2: I think I would try Amazing Race. I would be

920
00:44:57,640 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 2: bad at it. Yeah, I would probably do it for

921
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:01,239
Speaker 2: the free vacation aspect.

922
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:03,279
Speaker 3: It's a lot of stress though.

923
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:05,880
Speaker 2: The stress. I couldn't do it with my boyfriend. It

924
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 2: would probably be an immediate fight. Oh yeah, I would

925
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 2: need to do it with somebody that that I'm not

926
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:14,359
Speaker 2: in a relationship with, so we have to be kind

927
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 2: of polite to each other.

928
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, and they're filming it, they're filming your fights.

929
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:20,799
Speaker 3: I mean, it's pretty much it would be the Real

930
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 3: Housewives of Amazing race for us me too.

931
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:26,280
Speaker 2: I mean, I would love to give it a shot,

932
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 2: but I do feel like it would be I would

933
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:30,759
Speaker 2: fall on my face immediately and it would be a

934
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 2: huge embarrassment and then I'm Oliver CBS and people are

935
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 2: making fun of me.

936
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 3: But you would be known.

937
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 2: You would be known, desperate clawing attempts to.

938
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 3: Be known, that void would be filled at last.

939
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 2: Well, I'm so thrilled about this bowl. I just can't

940
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:53,359
Speaker 2: even believe it. I mean, I still am mildly suspicious.

941
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 2: I still don't one hundred percent believe that you made it.

942
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 2: Because it's perfect, I understand. Well, that's very kind.

943
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 3: This is an The reason why I do love it

944
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 3: is because when you paint the rope and you sew it,

945
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 3: you never know how it's going to come out with

946
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 3: those the pattern right right, and so as you paint it,

947
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 3: you know, you do kind of different sections, but then

948
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 3: when you sew it, it always is a surprise how

949
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 3: it comes out.

950
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 2: That's incredible. I mean, is there any way to teach yourself, Like,

951
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:20,239
Speaker 2: is there someone in the world that's like they know

952
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 2: where to paint the rope to get it in a

953
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 2: certain place? On the bowl.

954
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, well that's my next YouTube spiral, is there.

955
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:30,360
Speaker 3: That's what I'll be watching tonight because designs designs. I

956
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 3: have found though, is there's not a lot of there's

957
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 3: Like I'll follow some rope bowl people on Instagram, but

958
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:40,799
Speaker 3: but I don't. I haven't met a lot of the

959
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:43,839
Speaker 3: rope bowl community of I almost want there. I want

960
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:48,360
Speaker 3: there to be classes and a convention or something that

961
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:50,799
Speaker 3: I can tap into, but I have not found that.

962
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 2: There has to be well and there's a convention for

963
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:53,760
Speaker 2: everything at this point.

964
00:46:53,920 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I have a direct message some rope bode over instance,

965
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 3: just ask where they got the rope from, because I

966
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 3: really liked their rope and they've given me some feedback.

967
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 2: It seems like a community that's either probably very welcoming

968
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 2: and warm or extremely snobby.

969
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 3: I did get snobby, but I haven't gotten a lot

970
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 3: of shared techniques.

971
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 2: People are protective.

972
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:21,759
Speaker 3: They're protective of their techniques. I feel like so. But

973
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 3: I do appreciate the YouTube tutorials that taught me the

974
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:27,280
Speaker 3: basics of a cross stitch and all that kind of stuff,

975
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:29,880
Speaker 3: but I haven't gotten any other techniques because I am

976
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:32,759
Speaker 3: hungry for some rope Bowl technique. So if any of

977
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 3: your listeners know where to go, please tell me.

978
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:38,319
Speaker 2: Reach out to Tony, get in touch with Tony. I

979
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 2: feel like there's got to be a class for you.

980
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 2: This is amazing.

981
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 3: I love it. I really do love it. Thank you well.

982
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 2: I feel like it's time to play a game.

983
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 3: Oh great, Yes?

984
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 2: Do you want to play a game called gift Master

985
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:51,840
Speaker 2: or Gift or a curse Gift. I like gift Master.

986
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:55,840
Speaker 2: It sounds happier, it's very exciting. It's a thrill. I

987
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 2: need a number between one and ten from you. I'm

988
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 2: going to say, Okay, I have to do some light calculating.

989
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:05,879
Speaker 2: I have to get the game pieces. I love whatever

990
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 2: you want.

991
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 3: I love everything what's happening right now. I let everything

992
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:08,360
Speaker 3: about this.

993
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 2: You better. You've got the MIT, you can recommend, you

994
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:15,720
Speaker 2: can promote, you can, you can talk to the listener

995
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 2: in whatever way you want. I'll be right back. Please

996
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 2: be respectful to the listener.

997
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 3: Okay, great, Oh wow, Oh I just should just talk.

998
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:27,799
Speaker 3: I'm dead serious about if anybody has any feedback about

999
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 3: a rope Bowl community that I could tap into, I

1000
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:34,439
Speaker 3: really appreciate that information. I'm looking for classes. They could

1001
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 3: be community college classes. They could be a grandmother who

1002
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 3: lives in Michigan who's really good at it and just

1003
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 3: it is eager to teach. I don't need quilting, I

1004
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 3: don't need sewing, I don't need crochet. I need the

1005
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 3: specificities of rope bul making or anything else made with

1006
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:54,360
Speaker 3: a rope. Oh sorry, I thought you want to just

1007
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:56,000
Speaker 3: keep talking while you were doing something.

1008
00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 2: That's why you did it perfectly. You had a desperate

1009
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 2: cry for help. You're begging the audience for some sort

1010
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 2: of recommendation, and I'm sure people are going to start

1011
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:07,279
Speaker 2: reaching out and you're probably going to get more than

1012
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:07,720
Speaker 2: you need.

1013
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 3: Love it.

1014
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:12,279
Speaker 2: We love an abundance. We love when people just go

1015
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 2: too far, Tony, this is how gift master works. I'm

1016
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:19,800
Speaker 2: going to name three potential gifts things you can give away,

1017
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:22,840
Speaker 2: and then I'm going to name three famous people, celebrities

1018
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 2: from around the world. You're going to tell me which

1019
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 2: one you're going to give which gift? And why does

1020
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:27,320
Speaker 2: that make sense?

1021
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:28,320
Speaker 3: Yes? It does?

1022
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 2: Okay, Today you'll be giving away the following gifts.

1023
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:34,239
Speaker 3: I love everything about this. Have you heard of the

1024
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 3: love languages I have?

1025
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 2: Of course? What's your love language?

1026
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:42,280
Speaker 3: Well, there's five there's acts of service, gift giving, words, affection,

1027
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 3: and quality time, right, and typically how you give love

1028
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:48,880
Speaker 3: is how you like to receive love. I'm a words person.

1029
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 3: I like to encourage, but I also really like gift giving.

1030
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 3: And so when somebody that means when somebody says, when

1031
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 3: somebody says words or encouragement to me, I really appreciate

1032
00:49:57,719 --> 00:49:59,360
Speaker 3: because that's how I give love. So gift giving is

1033
00:49:59,360 --> 00:49:59,799
Speaker 3: one of them.

1034
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:04,880
Speaker 2: Well, you're doing a terrific job right now anyway, So

1035
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:08,240
Speaker 2: we'll see how this all plays out for you, Tony. Okay,

1036
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 2: these are the gifts. Number one, this is it's a

1037
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:15,759
Speaker 2: little less conventional. This is a dump truck absolutely overflowing

1038
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:20,919
Speaker 2: with rich soil. So that's a full dump truck of

1039
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 2: soil that can anything can be grown in, you know,

1040
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 2: just this rich earth. Number two is Tweezers. If you

1041
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:35,760
Speaker 2: need to it's three things, so for your records. Number

1042
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 2: one a dump truck absolutely overflowing with rich soil. So

1043
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:42,279
Speaker 2: that's almost too much soil.

1044
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:45,280
Speaker 3: Too much soil, but I do like a cheesecake factory.

1045
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:50,880
Speaker 2: Continue Number two is Tweezers. So that's a set of tweezers.

1046
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 2: They could be beautiful Tweezers, that could be cheap tweezers,

1047
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:59,759
Speaker 2: any type of Tweezers you want to give away. And

1048
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 2: er three is the ability to communicate with the dead

1049
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:07,799
Speaker 2: more of a that's actually an excellent gift. I mean,

1050
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:10,720
Speaker 2: I think anyone would put that on their Christmas wish list.

1051
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:13,479
Speaker 2: That's something that we could all use.

1052
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 3: Don't agree, I don't want that gift.

1053
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 2: You continue difference of opinion. This is again we're back

1054
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 2: to the mcflurry and reject. Okay, Tony. These are the

1055
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:32,400
Speaker 2: three people that will be receiving the gifts today. Number

1056
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 2: one Megan Markle. Okay, we all love Megan Markles. She's

1057
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:40,959
Speaker 2: making moves, she's marrying princes, she's on TV, she's doing

1058
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 2: it all. Number two D Snyder of Twisted Sister. Oh

1059
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:51,240
Speaker 2: we love d Snyder really great. Okay, we're not gonna

1060
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:56,800
Speaker 2: take it. And number three is rapper Ludacris. Okay, excellent

1061
00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 2: group of people. I'll say.

1062
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:07,479
Speaker 3: Okay, my immediate thought was I would give the dump

1063
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:11,760
Speaker 3: truck of soil to Megan Markle. Okay, because I feel

1064
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:15,759
Speaker 3: like speaking of what we discussed about being known that

1065
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 3: I don't I think that equations. She's waking up even

1066
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:21,960
Speaker 3: more to that's not the equation of being known about

1067
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 3: the amount of fame that she's received and having people

1068
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:28,839
Speaker 3: in her life that you know, really do see her.

1069
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 3: But I say the soil because I'd like her to

1070
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:34,560
Speaker 3: get into gardening, oh and use that as a meditative practice.

1071
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 3: But now I'm questioning. I think I'm going to give

1072
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:41,360
Speaker 3: the ability to communicate with the dead form Megan Markle

1073
00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:45,319
Speaker 3: because I think she might enjoy talking to people who

1074
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 3: have been in life and then are now outside of

1075
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 3: the life, because it's always a wake up perspective of

1076
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:54,759
Speaker 3: kind of the chaos that she's around. So it might

1077
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:56,320
Speaker 3: bring perspective into her life.

1078
00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:58,839
Speaker 2: What a thoughtful gift.

1079
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:02,560
Speaker 3: I would say, the ability committent dead with my Markle. Okay,

1080
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 3: let me think a minute, because I threw myself off

1081
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:07,400
Speaker 3: because that was the last minute change, so I have

1082
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:11,879
Speaker 3: to think a minute. Okay, I'm gonna say the Tweezers.

1083
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:14,360
Speaker 3: I immediately think of d Snyder. That was an immediate

1084
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 3: thing because I'm a kid of the eighties, right, and

1085
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:19,839
Speaker 3: there's a lot of hair and a lot of I

1086
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:22,920
Speaker 3: mean a lot. There's a lot going on, and I

1087
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 3: bet there's something very simple about Tweezers when it comes

1088
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 3: to grooming, and I bet he's in a very simple

1089
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:32,759
Speaker 3: place we might add to his collection, right, simplicity in his.

1090
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:34,960
Speaker 2: Life and the shape of a Tweezer. I almost feel

1091
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 2: like you could make kind of a if you shot

1092
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 2: that correctly with the camera, you could make a really

1093
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:43,239
Speaker 2: cool metal album with a set of Tweezers. I think

1094
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:46,880
Speaker 2: they look kind of metal, not not the you know,

1095
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:51,360
Speaker 2: musically metal. Yeah, there's something point underrated about Tweezers as

1096
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 2: a hard rock device.

1097
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:58,359
Speaker 3: I can see that. And I think he also with

1098
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:01,240
Speaker 3: that brings some inspiration into his life because he's probably

1099
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:05,239
Speaker 3: wanting to be inspired to do different stuff. He's also

1100
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:08,759
Speaker 3: a big ironically, I remember in New York he's a

1101
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:11,960
Speaker 3: huge a voiceover artist. Really he did a lot of

1102
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 3: He did a lot of voiceover, a lot of animation,

1103
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 3: and so that doesn't relate to Tweezers.

1104
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:22,600
Speaker 2: But but you're probably in the you know, the recording booth.

1105
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:26,000
Speaker 3: You know, if he does animation, there might have been

1106
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 3: a talking Tweezer that I mean, who knows that that

1107
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:31,880
Speaker 3: world is very broad, so it might you know, he

1108
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:34,120
Speaker 3: can actually he can make a talking tweet. That's it.

1109
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:37,440
Speaker 3: If Snyder a talking Tweezer, and that would be his

1110
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:39,280
Speaker 3: next gig for animation.

1111
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:42,879
Speaker 2: If he hasn't voiced an animated Tweezer. The time has

1112
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 2: never been better, It really hasn't.

1113
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:48,279
Speaker 3: And then finally, I would give the dump truck of

1114
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 3: soil to Ludacris because I think someone like I think

1115
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:56,719
Speaker 3: the music industry that is very fast, and I think

1116
00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:59,319
Speaker 3: kind of having that soil to get into gardening, to

1117
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 3: get into your to have a meditative space, I think

1118
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:05,320
Speaker 3: that would actually be very kind of healing for the

1119
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:09,399
Speaker 3: space of kind of music and the world that he's in. Yeah,

1120
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:11,320
Speaker 3: it can get very loud and stuff.

1121
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, and you know, I feel like he's kind

1122
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:17,040
Speaker 2: of used to the flash and the glamour. Maybe something

1123
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 2: a little bit more earthy, something you can just run

1124
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 2: his hands through the soil, maybe grow an orchard.

1125
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's so as you you you book you

1126
00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:29,480
Speaker 3: and I know this this business can be very obviously

1127
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 3: false and like you're just it's all to your point

1128
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:34,800
Speaker 3: of like just a lot of glitz. But like soil

1129
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:40,560
Speaker 3: is like organic obviously, and it's miraculous and it's you know,

1130
00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:43,600
Speaker 3: you're just never I don't know, it's pure so I

1131
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:45,840
Speaker 3: think that would be a constant force of source of

1132
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:46,480
Speaker 3: healing for him.

1133
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:49,360
Speaker 2: And what a headline for Ludacris to become a farmer,

1134
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:52,120
Speaker 2: To be a farmer, that's right? Like, I mean a

1135
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:57,040
Speaker 2: nice second chapter. Yeah, beautifully played, I mean so thoughtfully played.

1136
00:55:57,120 --> 00:55:59,000
Speaker 2: I you know, I know there are all three of

1137
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:04,080
Speaker 2: them are listening, and thank you, d Ludicrous and Megan.

1138
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:07,719
Speaker 2: Enjoy your gifts and welcome guys.

1139
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:10,560
Speaker 3: I just want them so bad their heads just to

1140
00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:13,040
Speaker 3: come into my screen and be like I knew this

1141
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:13,680
Speaker 3: was coming.

1142
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:19,920
Speaker 2: Okay, this is the final segment of the podcast. It's

1143
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:22,759
Speaker 2: called I said no emails people right into I said

1144
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:26,560
Speaker 2: no gifts at gmail dot com. I can't express enough

1145
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:31,480
Speaker 2: how many problems my listeners have. The amount of problems

1146
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:34,840
Speaker 2: and issues that these people need a hand dealing with,

1147
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:40,360
Speaker 2: it's indescribable. Would you help me answer a question?

1148
00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:41,920
Speaker 3: Yes, I would.

1149
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:44,440
Speaker 2: Okay, let me get into the dock. Here, We've got

1150
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:49,279
Speaker 2: to get into the dock. Okay, perfect, here we go,

1151
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:55,200
Speaker 2: deer Bridger and guest. My mom's sixtieth birthday is approaching.

1152
00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:57,840
Speaker 2: As we are the type of family who asks people

1153
00:56:57,880 --> 00:57:00,239
Speaker 2: what they want for an occasion, then proceed to get

1154
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 2: them that thing for said occasion. I normally have no

1155
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:07,439
Speaker 2: gifting conundrums. Well, now, for her sixtieth birthday, my mom

1156
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:09,799
Speaker 2: has asked everyone in the family to pitch in and

1157
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:14,880
Speaker 2: get her a quantum healing hypnosis session. If you're not familiar,

1158
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:18,480
Speaker 2: I'm not. Let's say this is where you reportedly pay

1159
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:21,800
Speaker 2: someone to hypnotize you to regress and discover everything in

1160
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:25,200
Speaker 2: your past life or lives that is causing you ailments

1161
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:29,520
Speaker 2: in your current life, and heal you of said ailments. Okay,

1162
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:33,280
Speaker 2: As my mother has always until very recently appeared to

1163
00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:36,400
Speaker 2: be a perfectly rational person who is skeptical at best

1164
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 2: of all forms of medicine and healing, even modern Western medicine,

1165
00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:42,320
Speaker 2: and has never even so much as burned incense or

1166
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:45,480
Speaker 2: smoke pot since the seventies, I can only assume this

1167
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:49,640
Speaker 2: is a red flag. So please, I beg of your

1168
00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:52,360
Speaker 2: advice and wisdom. Do we spend our hard earned dollars

1169
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:55,720
Speaker 2: to humor her newfound birthday whimsie? Do we go rogue,

1170
00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:58,640
Speaker 2: ignore the request entirely, and come up with our own

1171
00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:01,560
Speaker 2: gift ideas. Do we tell her that she's going to

1172
00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:04,320
Speaker 2: quantum healing hypnosis and sent her to a nice doctor

1173
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:08,120
Speaker 2: and said, is there an option D Any feedback is appreciated,

1174
00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:10,520
Speaker 2: and that's sincerely, Jacqueline.

1175
00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 3: Tony.

1176
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:16,640
Speaker 2: This is there's a lot going on this situation. Have

1177
00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:21,400
Speaker 2: you heard of quantum healing hypnosis? Neither of I. This

1178
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:22,960
Speaker 2: is new on my radar.

1179
00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:25,720
Speaker 3: No. And I And he was saying, or she was

1180
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:26,800
Speaker 3: saying that.

1181
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 2: Jacqueline, right, Yes, Jacqueline.

1182
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:31,080
Speaker 3: She was saying that it's a way that you communicate

1183
00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:33,280
Speaker 3: with the dead and then they heal you of your

1184
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:34,120
Speaker 3: current ailments.

1185
00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:39,960
Speaker 2: You apparently communicate with yourself in past lives you progress

1186
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:43,360
Speaker 2: into For example, you were King Louis at some point.

1187
00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:45,640
Speaker 3: I thinking the two games communicate with it.

1188
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:49,400
Speaker 2: I mean, unfortunately, these are two very similar things. I

1189
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:52,560
Speaker 2: don't know the coincidence here is maybe it's a sign.

1190
00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:54,600
Speaker 2: I mean, we can only say this is a sign

1191
00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:59,320
Speaker 2: from some sort of quantum hypnosis healer. But Jacqueline's mom,

1192
00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:02,680
Speaker 2: we don't know how. It seems like some sort of

1193
00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:06,880
Speaker 2: snake oilsman. Let's just say it has entered Jacqueline's mom's life.

1194
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:11,520
Speaker 3: I would say, here's my pitch for Jacqueline. I would say,

1195
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:18,080
Speaker 3: definitely do not deny her that gift. I would put

1196
00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:21,400
Speaker 3: a cap on it. I would say, we're getting you

1197
00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:27,200
Speaker 3: three or two sessions with this person, because the thing is,

1198
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:29,360
Speaker 3: if they don't do it, they're denying themselves a lot

1199
00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:33,560
Speaker 3: of good stories. They're denying because just think, but the

1200
00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:35,400
Speaker 3: mom's going to come back and be like, just you know,

1201
00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:39,640
Speaker 3: I was you know, Princess Ariel in a past life

1202
00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:44,560
Speaker 3: or something like That's that's pretty fascinating. And I think her,

1203
00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:46,280
Speaker 3: I mean, I would guess her mom is in a

1204
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:49,520
Speaker 3: space of like she's just investigating, but I would I

1205
00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:53,960
Speaker 3: would definitely, I would not send her to another doctor.

1206
00:59:54,080 --> 00:59:57,680
Speaker 3: That brings shame. Nobody needs shame in their closet. The

1207
00:59:57,720 --> 01:00:00,040
Speaker 3: other thing is giving another gift, No, because then you

1208
01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:03,040
Speaker 3: have disappointment. I would fully honor that request.

1209
01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:04,720
Speaker 2: She's just going to ask for it again.

1210
01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:07,439
Speaker 3: She's going to ask it for a great definitely again.

1211
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:10,760
Speaker 2: Or and yeah, I mean, you deny it, you're driving

1212
01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:13,600
Speaker 2: her into the arms of this quantum healer. She's going

1213
01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:15,560
Speaker 2: to want it even more suddenly.

1214
01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:16,360
Speaker 3: I mean, good point.

1215
01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:18,160
Speaker 2: We only know where that's headed. She might end up

1216
01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:19,440
Speaker 2: married to a quantum healer.

1217
01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:23,360
Speaker 3: Yeah that's right, that's right. But I mean, seriously, like

1218
01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:26,120
Speaker 3: that's a that's a real story. I would question what

1219
01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:27,480
Speaker 3: they're afraid of.

1220
01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:30,960
Speaker 2: Well, they're probably they think that Mom's going to get

1221
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:32,680
Speaker 2: some dirt from the past life about them.

1222
01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:34,200
Speaker 3: Oh there you go.

1223
01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:36,800
Speaker 2: They're all afraid that she's going to turn.

1224
01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:39,919
Speaker 3: So it's really about you, Jacqueline.

1225
01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:44,000
Speaker 2: It's always about the gift gift, it's never about the recipient.

1226
01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:45,120
Speaker 2: That isn't good.

1227
01:00:45,120 --> 01:00:48,000
Speaker 3: That is a good thought though, like what asking yourself,

1228
01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:50,360
Speaker 3: like what are you afraid of if she does go

1229
01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:53,320
Speaker 3: to that? You know, like, what is the biggest fear

1230
01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:53,640
Speaker 3: of that?

1231
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:57,400
Speaker 2: Maybe they're afraid she gets hooked, And there are worse

1232
01:00:57,440 --> 01:00:59,880
Speaker 2: things to get hooked on than going to someone who

1233
01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:03,760
Speaker 2: sounds like letting her nap in his office and then

1234
01:01:03,840 --> 01:01:09,840
Speaker 2: talking to her about his dreams and for all we know,

1235
01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:13,040
Speaker 2: we find out some great new things about Jacqueline Senor

1236
01:01:14,560 --> 01:01:18,120
Speaker 2: the thing the lives she's lived through. She's you know,

1237
01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:19,920
Speaker 2: she could have been an animal, she could have been

1238
01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:24,080
Speaker 2: a rock. There's no telling that's right.

1239
01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:27,480
Speaker 3: Now. Here's my thing. This is what I request is

1240
01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:30,439
Speaker 3: if you if she does on other quests, I want

1241
01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:33,360
Speaker 3: to hear about these sessions. I want to hear what

1242
01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:36,160
Speaker 3: this mom comes back with. So if there's a way

1243
01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:39,439
Speaker 3: to stay in correspondence with Jacqueline through your podcast. I'd

1244
01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:39,960
Speaker 3: like to hear the.

1245
01:01:39,960 --> 01:01:45,080
Speaker 2: Result, Jacqueline, give her the gift take notes. If you

1246
01:01:45,080 --> 01:01:49,040
Speaker 2: can be in the session, even better. I mean, it

1247
01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:51,720
Speaker 2: does seem like we're we're just playing into this quantum

1248
01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:56,640
Speaker 2: Healer's hands and we're enriching him. But you know, everybody's

1249
01:01:56,640 --> 01:01:57,360
Speaker 2: got to make a living.

1250
01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:00,280
Speaker 3: Everybody's going to make a living. And I want, I

1251
01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:02,240
Speaker 3: want to hear these past lives. I want, but it's

1252
01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:04,120
Speaker 3: not just that I want to hear what these past

1253
01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:08,240
Speaker 3: lives are telling her that she is healing from right.

1254
01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:11,720
Speaker 2: And then you know, this also opens up a future

1255
01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:14,240
Speaker 2: gift giving possibilities. If she ends up trapped in this

1256
01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:17,120
Speaker 2: man's clutches, they can get some they can put next

1257
01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:21,160
Speaker 2: year's gift. It is like to rescue this woman, mommy

1258
01:02:21,200 --> 01:02:24,120
Speaker 2: back from the quantum Healer. There's you know, down the road,

1259
01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:26,720
Speaker 2: there's so many options.

1260
01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:28,760
Speaker 3: There's so many options. And I'll sweeten the pod a

1261
01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:31,800
Speaker 3: little bit. If Jacqueline's mom does go to this session

1262
01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:34,640
Speaker 3: and she does come back, she will receive a rope

1263
01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:38,680
Speaker 3: bull Jacqueline.

1264
01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:41,000
Speaker 2: See, there's never been a better deal for your Jacqueline,

1265
01:02:41,120 --> 01:02:43,000
Speaker 2: if you don't send your mom to this, then there's

1266
01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:46,680
Speaker 2: definitely a problem with you and your poor mother. All

1267
01:02:46,720 --> 01:02:49,680
Speaker 2: she wanted was this ten to fifteen sessions with the

1268
01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:51,880
Speaker 2: Quantum Healer, and you're denying it.

1269
01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:54,000
Speaker 3: Now, that's a lot. I would break it down to

1270
01:02:54,080 --> 01:02:54,600
Speaker 3: like a five.

1271
01:02:55,240 --> 01:02:57,640
Speaker 2: I wonder how much a quantum session costs. It's probably

1272
01:02:57,640 --> 01:02:59,400
Speaker 2: at least one hundred dollars, I.

1273
01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:01,600
Speaker 3: Would say, I would say more. But if I do

1274
01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:05,360
Speaker 3: get Jacqueline's favorite color, then there are rope bulls in

1275
01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:07,400
Speaker 3: the deal. If we can hear back from what her mom.

1276
01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:11,600
Speaker 2: Said, Jacqueline, I hope you're listening. This is an incredible

1277
01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:15,560
Speaker 2: opportunity for the whole family. So we'll see what happens.

1278
01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:17,400
Speaker 2: This is going to end up being sort of some

1279
01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:21,560
Speaker 2: kind of true crime documentary in five years, Jacklin writes

1280
01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:25,560
Speaker 2: into the podcast, somebody gets killed Quantum healing a rope

1281
01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:26,760
Speaker 2: promise of a rope bowl.

1282
01:03:28,160 --> 01:03:31,840
Speaker 3: It's all too perfect, but that's true. Like the rope

1283
01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:34,120
Speaker 3: bull was unraveled and that was the murder weapon. Like

1284
01:03:34,360 --> 01:03:35,280
Speaker 3: who knows what's.

1285
01:03:35,120 --> 01:03:37,000
Speaker 2: To be strangled by a rope bowl?

1286
01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:38,520
Speaker 3: A painted rope bowl.

1287
01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:42,360
Speaker 2: By the way, Tony, we've answered the question perfectly.

1288
01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:44,840
Speaker 3: Oh, good, good, good. You're welcome, Jacqueline.

1289
01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:49,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jacqueline, thank you for writing in, But you're welcome

1290
01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:53,640
Speaker 2: more so than thank you. That's all I'm going to say.

1291
01:03:53,720 --> 01:03:56,600
Speaker 2: And your mother is welcome as well. Hopefully she can

1292
01:03:56,600 --> 01:04:00,280
Speaker 2: write in with a thank you. Yes, Tony, I'm so

1293
01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:02,640
Speaker 2: thrilled with this gift. I can't believe what a thoughtful,

1294
01:04:02,680 --> 01:04:04,840
Speaker 2: lovely gift I've received from here now. And I have

1295
01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:07,280
Speaker 2: to wonder what I'm going to place in it.

1296
01:04:07,440 --> 01:04:10,240
Speaker 3: Oh, I will say, I should put a little note there.

1297
01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:13,200
Speaker 3: It's not for food. Well, I was going to it's

1298
01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:13,760
Speaker 3: not for fruit.

1299
01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:15,880
Speaker 2: I was going to have serious, it's not.

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Speaker 3: For fruit or potatoes, because there is. It's acrylic paint,

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Speaker 3: so I don't want you to get a paint on anything.

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Speaker 3: But it might be a nice decorative bowl, or you

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Speaker 3: could put like pens in it or whatever you like.

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Speaker 2: Right, I'll keep raw poultry away any sort of food.

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Speaker 3: I don't definitely raw chicken.

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Speaker 2: Would fill this with mcflurry that doesn't.

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Speaker 3: Now now you're talking, it's a.

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Speaker 2: Giant bowl of cottage cheese in front.

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Speaker 1: Of the TV.

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Speaker 3: That's so good.

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Speaker 2: Oh my, I've just had a fantastic time with.

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Speaker 3: You me too, Thanks for having me, Thank you.

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Speaker 2: For being here and listener. This is the end of

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Speaker 2: the podcast. You know. Now it's your turn to do

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Speaker 2: what you want with the day. I appreciate how respectful

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Speaker 2: you were this entire time.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: Of course, come see the ball on Instagram. You have

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Speaker 2: to see the bowl. It's a beautiful gift. And now

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Speaker 2: move on with your day. I want you to do

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Speaker 2: something productive. Try to be mildly productive today because I'm

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Speaker 2: probably not going to be. Somebody's got to be producing

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Speaker 2: in the world. And now carry on. I love you, goodbye.

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Speaker 2: I said no Gifts is an exactly right production. It's

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Speaker 2: produced by our dear friend Analise Nelson and it's beautifully

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Speaker 2: mixed by John Bradley. The theme song, of course, could

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Speaker 2: only come from miracle worker Amy Man. You must follow

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Speaker 2: the show on Instagram at I said no Gifts, I

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Speaker 2: don't want to hear any excuses. That's where you get

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Speaker 2: to see pictures of all these gorgeous gifts I'm getting.

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Speaker 2: And don't you want to see pictures of the gifts? Now?

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Speaker 2: Make sure to listen, follow, and most important, they leave

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Speaker 2: heartfelt review on Amazon Music, Apple Podcasts or wherever you

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Speaker 2: get your podcasts, and don't forget. You can listen to

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Speaker 2: new episodes one week early on Amazon Music, or early

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Speaker 2: and ad free by subscribing to Wondery Plus in the

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Speaker 2: Wondery app.

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Speaker 3: And I invite, did you hear?

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Speaker 1: Thouna made myself perfectly clear? But you're a guest to

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Speaker 1: my home. You gotta come to me empty, And I said, no, guest.

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Speaker 1: Your presences presence enough, and I already had too much stuff.

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Speaker 1: So how do you dance to survey me