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Speaker 1: Matt Tom mcshae and Scouts Inc. Put together on ESPN

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Speaker 1: their highest graded prospects for the class. And the way

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Speaker 1: the way Todd always does this is he does things

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Speaker 1: It actually runs down through a hundred picks or a

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Speaker 1: And just to be clear, that was you know you're

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Speaker 1: it's not super unusual not to have one or only one,

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Speaker 1: and with all respect to Eton Hutchinson, he ain't Chased

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