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Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton.
Speaker 1: It is Friday, October twentieth, twenty seventeen, Season thirteen, episode
Speaker 1: number fifty eight. Welcome to another edition of The Break,
Speaker 1: Live from the s WBC Mortgage Studios at the Star.
Speaker 1: Of course, Grumpy Dave's sitting over there scowling at me.
Speaker 1: And I don't know why not know what I did today?
Speaker 1: But anything, whatever I did, I didn't do anything, alright.
Speaker 1: Why you gotta start like that because you're sitting there
Speaker 1: looking like just slip on your face, like, m it's
Speaker 1: early and I was out late last night. Oh it's
Speaker 1: always good, tiny Jim, thank you. How are you doing today? Amber?
Speaker 1: I'm good. I'm tired, but I'm good. I am Like
Speaker 1: my eyes doesn't want to shut. You're such a dad,
Speaker 1: Like get up, sleepyhead. I was already been awake since
Speaker 1: six o'clock. I know I was out late and I'm
Speaker 1: not tired. Let's go. You got out early, friend, Yeah, cooked, breakfast, hated? Yeah,
Speaker 1: absolutely good. Nick, How are you tell these young people
Speaker 1: how to do? It's what do you mean? I know,
Speaker 1: not a good example. It's firmly on our side of this,
Speaker 1: probably so Nick's got a morning person like at all.
Speaker 1: Really definitely don't want to get my first text from you.
Speaker 1: Why did you get your first text from me? Yes?
Speaker 1: Was that your first text? Yeah? Seven fifteen? Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: number one. You often text people before seven fifteen. No,
Speaker 1: it was work, Yeah, absolutely get you guys going, can't
Speaker 1: get in there too. I mean it was it is
Speaker 1: you and me and camp. Yeah good, that was good.
Speaker 1: We all Hey, all right, let's talk some Cowboys football.
Speaker 1: Let's start first with this injury report, and it's dwindled
Speaker 1: down to basically one loan part person that we've been
Speaker 1: talking about, Cheeta Bay still on the injury list, still
Speaker 1: did not practice yesterday, Tyren Smith practice fully expect that
Speaker 1: he's going to play. What should we think at this
Speaker 1: point about Cheeta Bay? You know what I'm gonna let
Speaker 1: Dave answer. I'm just a little bit over the top
Speaker 1: here to go off. I mean, if you want to
Speaker 1: do that quite ready, I think I think this guy
Speaker 1: needs to go on injury reserve. I really do. You've
Speaker 1: been saying that for a few weeks and I kind
Speaker 1: of scoffed at it at first, like okay, whatever, But
Speaker 1: now I'm starting to wonder if if maybe it's not
Speaker 1: a bad idea, but you don't really need roster spots.
Speaker 1: That's why it probably doesn't help you much. Right well,
Speaker 1: I mean, but you need him to play, right, because
Speaker 1: they clearly don't really want been Wickery to play. I mean,
Speaker 1: they've been trying different ways to get this done without
Speaker 1: him playing, so and I don't know, I mean, I
Speaker 1: just feel like you need somebody now. Now, Cheeto. He's
Speaker 1: interesting because he can play two positions, and you just
Speaker 1: want to see him on the field. And I guess,
Speaker 1: if you know, if they could just put him on
Speaker 1: the put him down for the four five weeks, you know,
Speaker 1: and it's not eight weeks, well it's fun. I mean,
Speaker 1: hindsight is always twenty twenty. And I definitely disagreed with
Speaker 1: that when you said it. But if they'd put him
Speaker 1: on IR right after the Denver game, right, he'd almost
Speaker 1: be back if I think this would be his fifth
Speaker 1: week on IR so he'd be able to practice next
Speaker 1: week and he'd probably be able to play against the
Speaker 1: Chiefs or something like that. But they didn't do it,
Speaker 1: and it doesn't seem severe enough that you need to
Speaker 1: do it. Just you don't think can't get right. I
Speaker 1: don't know, well, but it's it's not like, you know,
Speaker 1: it's not like he's been out for five weeks. He'll
Speaker 1: be out for a week and then come back, and
Speaker 1: that's what I was saying yesterday. Just always seems like
Speaker 1: he reaggravates it. But it's one of those things that
Speaker 1: you think you're feeling good, and you are feeling good,
Speaker 1: and then you get out there and play and hearing
Speaker 1: this again and you feel it kind of you know,
Speaker 1: one row movement, he just pulls your muscle and which
Speaker 1: is your hurt again? Which is why you know, Garrett
Speaker 1: and then the coaches always talk about how deliberate I
Speaker 1: say cautious. They insist on deliberate. But they want to
Speaker 1: be deliberate with these soft tissue injuries because you know,
Speaker 1: a lot of times, you know, the player can be
Speaker 1: his own worst enemy in that scenario because he wants
Speaker 1: to play. He feels good, so he goes out there
Speaker 1: and he's not actually ready. But I you know, Cheeto's
Speaker 1: a rookie who has been dealing with this for most
Speaker 1: of the season. He did not practice yesterday. I would
Speaker 1: be stunned if he plays in this game. So you
Speaker 1: have an open roster spot. As Nick just said, it
Speaker 1: doesn't make a ton of sense to me to call
Speaker 1: up a defensive lineman when you're not really facing a
Speaker 1: lot of injuries there, Like if you called up Lewis
Speaker 1: Neil or Richard Ashe he might even make him a
Speaker 1: game day inactive. So I do it at all, right,
Speaker 1: So Mark quiz White is a guy that makes a
Speaker 1: lot of sense if they decide they need an extra cornerback,
Speaker 1: you know. And also when you think about defensive tackle, me,
Speaker 1: they pie Pie is out. But they they've done it
Speaker 1: without David Irving and had that many guys. So now
Speaker 1: basically Irving just comes back for Paya, and you still
Speaker 1: have Price, you still have Collins, and then you have
Speaker 1: whatever you want to do with Crawford inside, So it
Speaker 1: kind of is the same. They want to go that route.
Speaker 1: Positive news for the injury report of Tyren Smith YEP
Speaker 1: um practiced in full and so you know, this might
Speaker 1: be one of those things. I think it was three
Speaker 1: or four years ago, maybe more than that, Brady James,
Speaker 1: Keith Brooking seemed like every Wednesday did not practice. And
Speaker 1: then it's a lot more than three or four years ago.
Speaker 1: It was probably that's a little bit of Remember when
Speaker 1: I mentioned that I found the Rolando Jersey at the sale.
Speaker 1: I'm looking through the rack and I come across a
Speaker 1: fifty one and I was like, they're selling wilbur stuff. No,
Speaker 1: it was Keith Brooke. I was like, this is old.
Speaker 1: Like Keith Brooking. I was still in if you gave
Speaker 1: and I was in college when played here, you gave
Speaker 1: an Ablincoln for that? Would you get change? I hope
Speaker 1: so I don't. I didn't. How much is that? Which
Speaker 1: is what? How much are you charging for a Keith
Speaker 1: Brook I would hope less than five dollars. I'm thinking
Speaker 1: that's a five dollar I'm thinking at the height of
Speaker 1: his career it should have been around five dollars. Like,
Speaker 1: I don't know that he was ever a real got
Speaker 1: it got it Nate Jerseys run off. All right, let's
Speaker 1: be honest here, our favorite broadcaster. How much is his
Speaker 1: jerseys going. They had a whole rack of Romo stuff
Speaker 1: that was ten dollars. Oh, but I think do well,
Speaker 1: I think that I think that's a good sales I
Speaker 1: think that's that's a special situation though, where you know,
Speaker 1: it's the sample sale for Cowboys employees like I feel
Speaker 1: like they wouldn't sell it that low to the public. Maybe,
Speaker 1: I don't know, Yeah, that's probably true. I don't know.
Speaker 1: We get a lot of special deals around here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we get perks, perks, Sorry about it? Love it all? Right? Um,
Speaker 1: so let's talk about it inactives we've got. Um, I
Speaker 1: think there are probably four names. Well, let me back up.
Speaker 1: I think there are probably three names that we feel
Speaker 1: really good about saying will be active, and I think
Speaker 1: that would be Cooper Rush, Darren McFadden, and I think
Speaker 1: we all agree Cheetah Bay will be the third. Now
Speaker 1: the next I would think, and I wouldn't get your opinions.
Speaker 1: Noah Brown, I assume he's going to be inactive, But
Speaker 1: you guys agree with that, and you think there's a
Speaker 1: chance he's active this week. I mean, he's one of
Speaker 1: those guys that it would be better to go backwards
Speaker 1: and try to figure out the other spots just because
Speaker 1: they do want to play him, they like him, they
Speaker 1: want to play him. It just doesn't really make a
Speaker 1: lot of sense, right. I think there's a bunch of
Speaker 1: guys that fall in this category, and let me just
Speaker 1: read off some of the names, and you guys tell me.
Speaker 1: I know, I definitely think he's in or no, we
Speaker 1: should probably hold on him. Justin Lillard, Cavon, Frasier, Banabian, Wickery,
Speaker 1: Taco Charlton, Byron Bell. Possibly. These are all kind of
Speaker 1: names I'm throwing out there. It's gonna be tough this
Speaker 1: week because the Cowboys have had a lot of injuries
Speaker 1: up until this point. They're virtually injury free at this point,
Speaker 1: so right at this point going into this week, so
Speaker 1: now it makes it a lot tougher to figure out
Speaker 1: those inactives of those names. Knowing that again we have
Speaker 1: three that we feel pretty certain will be there. Who
Speaker 1: or the other four you think would be there? I
Speaker 1: think we need to go Byron Bell. Think Byron Bell
Speaker 1: for sure? You think for sure? But I think that
Speaker 1: where it stands right now, you have you have Tyron,
Speaker 1: because last last game Tyron was injured way more you know,
Speaker 1: he missed a lot more time than this, if you're
Speaker 1: a lot more confident he plays. Yeah, and Lyell was
Speaker 1: missing some time too, and he's been full as well.
Speaker 1: So I just feel like you can go with Chazz
Speaker 1: and maybe get that if Chatz had to go in,
Speaker 1: he wouldn't get hurt. You don't first, Maybe you sit,
Speaker 1: Maybe you sit Chazz what I just can't mooney al
Speaker 1: right to see his face? I just forgot his name,
Speaker 1: you know. Maybe you sit Chaz Green anybody no, and
Speaker 1: then go bell and bells, bells, bell and backup reps
Speaker 1: at left tackle. You think they would do that, though
Speaker 1: I don't know. Can Bell go either side, right or
Speaker 1: left tackle? He can play all four spots on the line,
Speaker 1: all all four non center spots. I feel more secure
Speaker 1: in the fact that if he has to come in,
Speaker 1: he'd finished the game. That's yeah, So let's do it.
Speaker 1: I'm I just that, But well, I will say this
Speaker 1: though I don't think he's the better player. I think
Speaker 1: Jazz is a better player. Okay, are we going with
Speaker 1: what we would want or why we think they would do.
Speaker 1: I think we're going with what we think they would
Speaker 1: I'm always ever go ahead. I'm sorry I just it's
Speaker 1: tough this week because of Tyrn. I mean, and you
Speaker 1: don't have an obvious answer, but I think you have
Speaker 1: to sit one of the offensive lineman. You're not going
Speaker 1: eight this week. You I don't think they have room
Speaker 1: with everything else they gotta do, and with Chazz's injury
Speaker 1: history and the fact that Bell has been the guy
Speaker 1: they've been looking at with Tyrn sitting, I am just
Speaker 1: leaning towards Chazz as as the guy that they tap
Speaker 1: there that's enacted. I could be wrong, Okay, So one
Speaker 1: of those two Chas mcgreen or Byron Belly that gets
Speaker 1: you to four, Um, Noah Brown out of those, or
Speaker 1: you think nor Brown is still and maybe that bottom seven.
Speaker 1: I agree with Nick that it's I think they want
Speaker 1: Noah Brown to be active, but it's hard to justify it,
Speaker 1: Like you kind of got to make the numbers work
Speaker 1: other ways. One guy I think March Lillard is he's
Speaker 1: definitely I think he's inactive. Okay, so that gets you
Speaker 1: to five? Need two more. Cavon Frasier was a guy
Speaker 1: that was inactive a couple of weeks ago, and so
Speaker 1: what do you what do you think about him? Well?
Speaker 1: I think he leads the team in special teams tackles,
Speaker 1: and I think that's a little bit weird that they
Speaker 1: put him on um inactive last week. But I feel
Speaker 1: like you need him um. I would like to keep
Speaker 1: him on the roster or on the end if they
Speaker 1: miss him much when he was inactive, you think I
Speaker 1: just no, I mean, not necessarily if you no, Let's
Speaker 1: be really honest right now. Okay, this would be easy
Speaker 1: if Taco was a fourth round pick. This would be
Speaker 1: easy if you're right about that. If he wasn't the
Speaker 1: twenty eighth overall pick. Yep. So I mean I get
Speaker 1: why you don't want to sit him, but but do
Speaker 1: you need the body too? I mean, I think there
Speaker 1: was a question when you were talking about you know,
Speaker 1: him or Tapper, but now the Tapper's not in the mix.
Speaker 1: Do you kind of want that extra defensive end body,
Speaker 1: you know? You know? I think when you go back
Speaker 1: to last year and you remember that, you know, they
Speaker 1: were really high on Benson Mayowa and they signed him
Speaker 1: and he was a free agent acquisition, and then they
Speaker 1: benched him for three weeks. And I think if they
Speaker 1: need to get someone's attention, I think they would do that.
Speaker 1: And yes, Taco would help help him to be out
Speaker 1: there and play something. But you know, if if it
Speaker 1: doesn't work out to go win this football game, I
Speaker 1: think that you know, he could be an active and
Speaker 1: I think they would do it though, if they really,
Speaker 1: if they if they really needed to do it, and
Speaker 1: then it sounds like they kind of do this week.
Speaker 1: I think you can put him in active. And I
Speaker 1: don't get the sense. You guys talk to the coaches
Speaker 1: and the players in locker room quite a bit, and
Speaker 1: so you'll know more of this than I would. But
Speaker 1: I don't get the sense that the team is at
Speaker 1: all panicked by what they've seen from Taco. I don't
Speaker 1: think they're I think they're kind of like kind of
Speaker 1: the plan. Like I honestly believe they think when he
Speaker 1: came in the door, this is what they were going
Speaker 1: to get for until they got him to the point
Speaker 1: where he was ready to play significantly, and how to
Speaker 1: think that. I don't think they're panicked about it, but
Speaker 1: I bet they thought that they could get more out
Speaker 1: of him than they have these feelers. I mean even
Speaker 1: and I've been I've been saying I've been on the
Speaker 1: Taco team this whole time, saying, you know, patience, he's raw,
Speaker 1: he needs to develop. You shouldn't be from the word go.
Speaker 1: You shouldn't have expected this guy to be beasting right away.
Speaker 1: But I mean six seven snaps per game and like
Speaker 1: one quarterback pressure, let alone hit, sack, tackle, whatever. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's you should be able to do more than that.
Speaker 1: If you're a first round pick, regardless of whether I'm
Speaker 1: your pick one or thirty two, you're special kind of
Speaker 1: talent if you're a first round pick. And I don't
Speaker 1: think they're panicked, but I bet they're disappointed you. But
Speaker 1: isn't more? Yeah, but I think what's gonna happen here?
Speaker 1: And we did this back in was it twenty twelve?
Speaker 1: Was that the Frederick twenty thirteen was Frederick Frederick and
Speaker 1: Terrence Williams. You know, it's like, all right, would you
Speaker 1: rather have this guy? You know? It was Eric Reid
Speaker 1: or maybe the shri Flode two for one and so,
Speaker 1: And I think you really have to think about this time.
Speaker 1: Kevin King was there and they could have taken him
Speaker 1: as well. But they I think in their mind that
Speaker 1: they knew that they were gonna they were gonna go
Speaker 1: ahead and get Jordan Lewis probably ahead of what other
Speaker 1: people did and and we're comfortable with And so you're
Speaker 1: gonna have to go, all right, Taco and Jordan Lewis
Speaker 1: versus Kevin King and then whoever you could have gotten
Speaker 1: in that third round there. I don't know if Basham
Speaker 1: was there, Rivers or he was the third probably, I mean,
Speaker 1: none of the pass rushers that were there that are
Speaker 1: but it's gonna be a combination there. And I think
Speaker 1: I think Jordan Lewis right now is playing better than
Speaker 1: Kevin King, and King's was starting for the Packers. So
Speaker 1: to wrap the conversation around or no, that's okay, but
Speaker 1: you basically need two more guys out of these four,
Speaker 1: Noah Brown, Banabian Wickery, Cavon Frasier or Tackle Charlton you
Speaker 1: need too. I'd go with Noah. Yeah, I don't want
Speaker 1: to sit Noah Brown, but it just makes sense. I mean,
Speaker 1: how mun who's your last one? Am? And then I
Speaker 1: would say Taco. I mean, honestly, I hear everyone's worry
Speaker 1: on Twitter, and I see it all the messages and
Speaker 1: everyone panicking about him, and I get it. But at
Speaker 1: the same time, it's like you look at the guys
Speaker 1: they've got right now on their defensive line and they're
Speaker 1: pretty good. So I don't think the Cowboys, you don't
Speaker 1: see them worrying so much in that aspect, just because
Speaker 1: of the other guys that they do have and that
Speaker 1: they've been doing a decent job. And also DeMarcus Lawrence
Speaker 1: was I believe the thirty fourth pick in the draft
Speaker 1: was and so twenty eight. I don't remember DeMarcus really
Speaker 1: coming in and making a lot of big plays early.
Speaker 1: He got hurt, and the reason he got hurt is
Speaker 1: because Tyrn Smith threw him down like some kid's doll
Speaker 1: and he got and he got hurt and that was
Speaker 1: it for most of the season. Comes back, played okay,
Speaker 1: and then in the playoff game had a couple of
Speaker 1: nice plays against Detroit and Green Base. You're like, all right,
Speaker 1: get something to get excited about. But it wasn't like
Speaker 1: he came right in and was and was really good
Speaker 1: from the start. So it's a development plan and he
Speaker 1: needs to he needs to play, So he would be
Speaker 1: my last resort every week. I would try to get
Speaker 1: him in if I could. I agree, Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: Taco or Ben. We're not answering the questions. That's fine.
Speaker 1: Amber said she would take Taco. He said Taco or
Speaker 1: Bane Taco and Banet. No I would I would sit
Speaker 1: Noah Brown and Ben Wickery. Okay, so let me Yeah,
Speaker 1: I like that too. Tell me what what what does
Speaker 1: your defensive backs look like? Now? With Ben Wickery and
Speaker 1: Cheeto out, you've got your starting corners or Brown, Scandrick
Speaker 1: Um huh and Jordan Jordan Lewis. Yeah. So those those three,
Speaker 1: then Safety you got Frasier are not in order. But Frasier, Jones,
Speaker 1: Heath Woods, seven guys I'm missing. So I'm trying to
Speaker 1: think a corner. Are you missing anybody? I don't think
Speaker 1: you are, And I don't know you're going into a
Speaker 1: game three guys. You're going into a game with just
Speaker 1: three corners. Yeah. Now, of course Wood slides down and
Speaker 1: plays Uh in the slot from time time, but I
Speaker 1: don't know how I feel about that as as my
Speaker 1: fourth corner. Yeah, I think the last one's got to
Speaker 1: be getting me Camp. I'm gonna go back and correct it. Taco.
Speaker 1: So you go with Tacco, you leave Ben, Ben mcreyan
Speaker 1: and I actually I still think Frasier might be the
Speaker 1: guy because I think you got enough at safety. I
Speaker 1: understand what you're saying about what he does on special teams,
Speaker 1: but I don't know that they missed him the game
Speaker 1: that he was inactive. And I'm personally wanting to see
Speaker 1: more of Woods. So if if he's out, then that
Speaker 1: gives me more time to see Woods back. I want
Speaker 1: to see more Woods too. Yeah, that's one way or
Speaker 1: the other. All right, let's take our first break. Let's
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Speaker 1: Back to the Break Welcome back. It is a second
Speaker 1: segment of The Break Life from the s WBC Mortgage Studios.
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk a little bit about the Cowboys and
Speaker 1: San Francisco forty nine ers. That game kicks off at
Speaker 1: three or five Central time this Sunday, Cowboys looking for
Speaker 1: a win. They are on two games losing skid here,
Speaker 1: so they need a win here bad to a team
Speaker 1: that has not gotten to win all season, but being
Speaker 1: close and awful lot. So here's what I want to do.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask you guys one simple question, and then
Speaker 1: I'm gonna lay out six different answers, and I want
Speaker 1: you guys to put them in order of what is
Speaker 1: going to be most important down to least important. All right,
Speaker 1: you'll understand when I give you the question. Some question
Speaker 1: is if the Cowboys lose this weekend, it will be
Speaker 1: because and here are your six answers, and I want
Speaker 1: you to put them on in order of the most
Speaker 1: important reason why they would lose, down to the least
Speaker 1: important reason why they would live. You're like, you're asking
Speaker 1: a lot. I know, I know the Amber will be
Speaker 1: able to handle this. I'm not so certain you're going
Speaker 1: to be able to handle all six. So I'll repeat
Speaker 1: them for you as much as you want me to.
Speaker 1: When you start. I will even walk you through it
Speaker 1: if you want me. When you start, throwing numbers in there.
Speaker 1: And so when I get so, here we go. Are
Speaker 1: you ready, Nick? All right, So if the Cowboys lose,
Speaker 1: it will be because here's your first answer. They could
Speaker 1: not control the force buckner in the center of the defense.
Speaker 1: Here's your second answer. They could not stop Carlos Hide
Speaker 1: running the ball. Here's your third answer. They didn't tackle
Speaker 1: well or consistently. Here's your fourth answer. They couldn't rattle
Speaker 1: the rookie QB and he got comfortable. Here's your fifth answer.
Speaker 1: They could not run the ball themselves. And your final answer.
Speaker 1: The wide receivers couldn't get open and they dropped too
Speaker 1: many balls. All I care about on that whole list
Speaker 1: is the Carlos Hide one. So that's number one for you. Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: isn't that one? It is the same almost the same
Speaker 1: as no tackling. Yeah, I was gonna say that too.
Speaker 1: Would be what actually I thought about when I thought
Speaker 1: about the no tackling was more what you found in
Speaker 1: Denver early in that game where the receivers and you
Speaker 1: talked about this yesterday with a guy like Pierre Garzone.
Speaker 1: He's not a big play guy, but he certainly catches
Speaker 1: a lot of balls and if you're not tackling, well,
Speaker 1: he can take up four yard five yard game, and
Speaker 1: now it's a fifteen yard game. And that's what we
Speaker 1: saw a lot of the early parts of the Denver
Speaker 1: game was it wasn't that the receivers were down feel
Speaker 1: making a lot of catches. They were catching five six
Speaker 1: yard balls, but they weren't able to tackle them, and
Speaker 1: they turned that into a ten or fifteen yard game.
Speaker 1: That's what I thought about. So I agree with you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the running is important, but I do think it affects
Speaker 1: the passing game as well, or we've seen it affect
Speaker 1: the passing game here with Don all Right, he's done,
Speaker 1: he got all six. Cool. I only need one, but
Speaker 1: not the game. I'll let Nick go first, all right,
Speaker 1: So it's most tell me, tell me again, what so
Speaker 1: in order of this one, and actually you can go
Speaker 1: bottom up. So let's start with the one that's least
Speaker 1: important to them losing the game, and then all the
Speaker 1: way up to the one that will kill them if
Speaker 1: they least. There's the least important, Okay to me, because
Speaker 1: I think that is as good as he has been,
Speaker 1: he's gonna face something better this week, even if he's
Speaker 1: on the rights, his rights. Fine, I mean, this just him.
Speaker 1: They'll block him, all right, that's my least concern. I'm
Speaker 1: not saying he won't be like this is what's gonna happen,
Speaker 1: because it's gonna happen. Yeah, this is it. Like no, No,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that these six. Okay, that's the one
Speaker 1: I'm least least concerned about. Right then do I keep
Speaker 1: going or yes? Okay? And then before that it'll be
Speaker 1: no tackling. Oh so you feel good about the tackle,
Speaker 1: well sort of, but I mean I really feel like
Speaker 1: it's gonna be more about the Carlos Hide things, so
Speaker 1: which I got him a little bit higher. So overall
Speaker 1: on the tackling, I think they'll be fine there. And
Speaker 1: then the one I'm somewhat concerned about would be receiver drops.
Speaker 1: I think they'll kind of do a little bit better there.
Speaker 1: My third one would be rookie getting comfortable. I think
Speaker 1: once he starts getting into a rhythm and then maybe
Speaker 1: he starts running the ball a little bit, that could
Speaker 1: hurt him. Carlos Hide was number two, and then number
Speaker 1: one be that they couldn't run. That's the biggest concern.
Speaker 1: If you can't run the football against this team then,
Speaker 1: and I know that they're better on against the run.
Speaker 1: But that's where the Cowboys bread and butter is. They've
Speaker 1: got to run the football. That's that's number one. If
Speaker 1: they can run the ball, they can play downhill, they
Speaker 1: can they can force the rookie quarterback. And because then
Speaker 1: if you run the ball and get points, then Carlos
Speaker 1: Hide is not going to be running as much. You
Speaker 1: put more pressure on the quarterback. Run the ball. I
Speaker 1: like it, amber, Um, let me see. I would go
Speaker 1: with I know I'm missing one. I don't know how
Speaker 1: I missed it again after Nick just going over it.
Speaker 1: But you'll drop that one in. Yeah, I say the
Speaker 1: ones I have, all right, when you said I can't
Speaker 1: run the ball, you're talking about the Cowboys. Cowboys can't run, Okay,
Speaker 1: I would say Carlos Hide. His number is the most least.
Speaker 1: I'm going up, yeah, highest to lowest high. Okay, So
Speaker 1: Carlos Hi, Yeah, Carlos Hide wide receivers dropping the ball Okay.
Speaker 1: Then I would go with Buckner Okay, then no dackling
Speaker 1: and then Cowboys not being able to run the ball.
Speaker 1: All right, the rookie QB rattle, the rookie QB. So
Speaker 1: where would you put him? Um, that's when you miss
Speaker 1: you know what. I would put him right in the middle. Okay,
Speaker 1: So you're saying that if the Cowboys rushed for one
Speaker 1: hundred and seventy five yards, they'll still they could still
Speaker 1: lose the game. That's not going to be a big factor.
Speaker 1: It's happened before. I know, I know it's happened before.
Speaker 1: But that's what you're saying basically. Okay, I mean, if
Speaker 1: they lose to me, the Cowboys will lose this game
Speaker 1: because of themselves, Like it's not because the forty nine
Speaker 1: ers are gonna dominate them and you know, beat them
Speaker 1: up and score all these points and stuff. If the
Speaker 1: Cowboys lose is because once again it was their own fault.
Speaker 1: They made errors that they shouldn't have made and they
Speaker 1: didn't get the victory. Yeah, turnovers should be on here too,
Speaker 1: and that would be up there really high. But really
Speaker 1: I think so I think if they turned the ball
Speaker 1: over like she's saying, if they beat themselves and give
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers a short field, which is given
Speaker 1: them some confidence, I think that would be something that
Speaker 1: would you know, that would be really tough for the
Speaker 1: Cowboys to overcome. That's my number one thing would be
Speaker 1: turning in the ball. The only reason I didn't put
Speaker 1: that on this because they don't seem to have been
Speaker 1: a team this year that's gotten a ton of turnovers.
Speaker 1: Turnovers come in bunches, even though but they tell me,
Speaker 1: even though the Cowboys have given us some costly turnovers,
Speaker 1: they this team doesn't seem to be one that takes
Speaker 1: advantage of getting a lot of turnovers. But anyway, Dave Good,
Speaker 1: give us your your list. Here's the thing. And I
Speaker 1: wasn't being a smart alec. I mean I was, I was,
Speaker 1: But all I care about on that list is stopping
Speaker 1: Carlos Hide. And I'll tell you why, because everything you
Speaker 1: just said, all those factors, I think playoff that if
Speaker 1: the Cowboys can't run the ball. This is the twenty
Speaker 1: seventh ranked past defense in the league. I think Dak
Speaker 1: Prescott this is a case where I think Dak Prescott
Speaker 1: can carry the Cowboys if he needs to deflorest Buckner
Speaker 1: gets the better of the Cowboys. Again, I don't think
Speaker 1: you have to overwhelm them with the running game to
Speaker 1: be able to win this game. And I've seen Dak
Speaker 1: play well, despite Aaron Donald being on top of him
Speaker 1: for a whole game. So that doesn't bother me. CJ. Bethard.
Speaker 1: If he's one dimensional and Carlos Hides not running the ball,
Speaker 1: I don't think he's gonna be in a groove. I
Speaker 1: don't think he's gonna throw the ball fifty times in
Speaker 1: this game and just look great and win. He's only
Speaker 1: gonna be good if the running game and Carlos Hide
Speaker 1: is chugging? Um what what else? What did I forget? Um?
Speaker 1: Wide receivers, Wide receivers? Yeah again, Um, but that goes
Speaker 1: to your point. Like you said, I think Dad can
Speaker 1: can can do it. If the receivers aren't doing their
Speaker 1: part in this defense does not wow me. I just
Speaker 1: I'm not I think the Cowboys will be able to
Speaker 1: score points in this call will. I maybe not at will,
Speaker 1: but the Cowboys should score twenty seven or more points
Speaker 1: in this game. I don't think that's asking too much.
Speaker 1: Um And yeah, I mean I could be wrong, of
Speaker 1: course I could be wrong, but that's just how I
Speaker 1: feel right now. And so the tackling doesn't bother you
Speaker 1: at all. Well, and then tackling goes back to Carlos
Speaker 1: Hide I mean, if if they're not tackling and stopping him,
Speaker 1: then yeah, that's gonna be a problem. So I mean,
Speaker 1: if you want to throw that in there, shure, that's too.
Speaker 1: But I think if you bottle him up and don't
Speaker 1: let them move the ball easily like that, which will
Speaker 1: make their quarterback more com bowl, which will eat up
Speaker 1: the clock, tire the defense out as we've seen before,
Speaker 1: then I think I think they'll be fine if they
Speaker 1: can play respectably against the run. That's so the key
Speaker 1: here is you got to stop Carlos Hide. You stop him,
Speaker 1: you win the game. It's I think it's the only
Speaker 1: unless they just unless they're just plus five in turnovers
Speaker 1: and it's one of those like wacky games. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: their only hope to win, as if they can just
Speaker 1: batter the Dallas defense and just run the ball. And
Speaker 1: I think Carlos Hide is capable of doing that, especially
Speaker 1: the way the Cowboys have played defense the last couple
Speaker 1: of weeks. So I hope, you know, I hope Sean
Speaker 1: Lee and Hitchens and the defensive line eat their wheaties
Speaker 1: because I think that's everything else I think will take
Speaker 1: care of itself. If they can do that. It's clear
Speaker 1: Carlos Hide as the guy that you think is the
Speaker 1: biggest nemesis for the Cowboys. Amber and Nick, who you
Speaker 1: think it's the biggest nemesis player, Who's the player you're
Speaker 1: most that you would most think the Cowboys need to
Speaker 1: be concerned about neutralizing in order to get a win.
Speaker 1: I would agree he was my number two guy on
Speaker 1: that list. I mean, I don't think C. J. Anderson
Speaker 1: is one of the greatest backs in the league, and
Speaker 1: he looked like one. I think Carlos had a better
Speaker 1: back than him. Yeah, I do too, So I than
Speaker 1: Aaron Jones too, Yeah, Aaron Jones. And you know, I
Speaker 1: mean and Todd Gurley is one of the good young
Speaker 1: backs and he he had one of the best days
Speaker 1: and ever against the Cowboys. You know, I mean I
Speaker 1: went back and looked at it. Only three players. He's
Speaker 1: the third player ever Gurley was to go ninety and
Speaker 1: ninety on receiving and rushing in the same game against
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. Not bad. Yeah, first since Edrin James. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was gonna say it was one of those backs
Speaker 1: from the Ravens, one of the backs from Ravens. Do that?
Speaker 1: Not ninety ninety Zeke didn't do that against the Steelers
Speaker 1: last year. I just said against the Cowboys. Sorry, my bad,
Speaker 1: I miss, but yeah he did. Okay, he did do that,
Speaker 1: but he didn't have a whole lot though after on
Speaker 1: top of that eighty three though, I know, but you
Speaker 1: only need six more. Yeah, I think he had ninety
Speaker 1: five yards in that in that as a receiver. But
Speaker 1: I'm just saying he had a great game against the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: But you know Anderson did as well, Aaron Jones did,
Speaker 1: so was it? What was last year? They didn't have
Speaker 1: any one hundred yard rushers on him? None? None, So
Speaker 1: now we've got three in five games. Awesome, lovely and
Speaker 1: stop him tackling wasn't higher on the list. Stop him?
Speaker 1: And I assume limited, like I said, limiting high. What's
Speaker 1: your what's your list? One to six? What's my list?
Speaker 1: Give you my list? Um? I would probably I would
Speaker 1: probably say, um, I want to go bottom the top.
Speaker 1: I would say the least important of those is rattle
Speaker 1: the rookie QB, because I honestly just think at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, he's that's a rookie QB. You
Speaker 1: ought to be able to beat him, even if he
Speaker 1: gets on a little bit of a role, it's going
Speaker 1: to depend on too many other things for him to win.
Speaker 1: I think the next one I think would be um
Speaker 1: the wide receivers couldn't get open and drop too many balls.
Speaker 1: I think that's somewhat of a problem. I don't think
Speaker 1: it's a big enough problem against the Gain, a team
Speaker 1: that that I don't think will score whole bunch anyway.
Speaker 1: The next one would probably be control the Forrest Buckner,
Speaker 1: because I think even if your defensive tackle, even if
Speaker 1: defensive tackle is giving them fits, I don't know that
Speaker 1: there's anybody else along that front that can take advantage
Speaker 1: of that as well. So if the Cowboys give him
Speaker 1: a little help, then I think you're you're probably okay.
Speaker 1: The next one I would probably say would be didn't
Speaker 1: tackle well, not because I don't think it's important, but
Speaker 1: I just think the others are more important. And then
Speaker 1: I would finalize it with the last two. And I
Speaker 1: think stopping the run with Carlos hit is lesser than
Speaker 1: the Cowboys getting running the ball. I think if the
Speaker 1: Cowboys get into a groove, I think last year their
Speaker 1: ability to run the ball was the reason why everything
Speaker 1: else worked. And I don't mean just running the ball
Speaker 1: from the standpoint of the numbers. I mean at times
Speaker 1: when they want to be able to run the ball,
Speaker 1: they run the ball. Being able to run on first
Speaker 1: downs and get significant yards on first downs, those things
Speaker 1: helped last year, and I think this year those are
Speaker 1: two areas where I don't think they necessarily I don't
Speaker 1: think they can necessarily just line up and run when
Speaker 1: they want to, and I certainly don't think they're running
Speaker 1: very well on first down. So I think that if
Speaker 1: they can get back into a groove where running is
Speaker 1: what they do, when they can do it at will
Speaker 1: against teams, even when teams know that they want to run,
Speaker 1: then I think that's when everything else will Forfarm. And
Speaker 1: I think the defense will be better because of it.
Speaker 1: I think the passing game will be better because of it.
Speaker 1: If you go back to last year and pick like
Speaker 1: the most five pivotal plays that changed the whole season,
Speaker 1: I think that Navarre Bowman getting hurt against the Cowboys
Speaker 1: was one of them. Really, Yeah, they had control of
Speaker 1: that game. That was a dog fight game that they
Speaker 1: were I don't know if they were leading at that point,
Speaker 1: but it was definitely a close game and he got hurt,
Speaker 1: he was out. The next thing, you know, it was
Speaker 1: Zeke for twenty, Zeke for twelve, Zeke for fifteen, ze
Speaker 1: Zeke touchdown. The whole game change And that was really
Speaker 1: the first time he really had a well I guess
Speaker 1: the Bears game was before that. Bears and then and
Speaker 1: then first road game that he really played well and
Speaker 1: and I think I think it changed everything there. It's
Speaker 1: kind of changed their their dynamic of hey, we are
Speaker 1: a team that could just kind of run down your throat,
Speaker 1: but when Bowman left it changed it all. So he's
Speaker 1: definitely left, and he seemed like he's a pretty good
Speaker 1: factor for the Raiders. You know, he comes in there
Speaker 1: and starts calling plays. That's something to watch in this game, though,
Speaker 1: is Ruben Foster? Who's you know, he's not one hundred percent.
Speaker 1: He's a guy to keep an eye on, but you
Speaker 1: would think that makes them a little more susceptible if
Speaker 1: he can't go. He's one of the reasons why they
Speaker 1: cut Bowman, right, Yeah, I mean just because he's the
Speaker 1: young guy and he's going to play, and Bowman didn't
Speaker 1: want to sit and right, but you know, he made
Speaker 1: the right choice because he went to Oakland and he
Speaker 1: was calling plays on a short week. I mean they
Speaker 1: what they signed him. He's playing on Thursday night and
Speaker 1: he's the defensive leader. He wouldn't have done that for Dallas.
Speaker 1: I don't know what his role would have been, but
Speaker 1: it wouldn't have been calling plays. Yeah, good point, but
Speaker 1: still would have been nice to have he was making
Speaker 1: plays out there, Yeah, whatever, would have been definitely nice
Speaker 1: to have. All right, let's let's go ahead and take
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Speaker 1: these so doesn't work. It doesn't matter, does it. It's
Speaker 1: not you think man like it. I don't know. I'm
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Speaker 1: what up? How you doing? Man? Pretty good? I just
Speaker 1: quick question for you, guys, Jonathan Cooper. Are we is
Speaker 1: that a Is that going to be like a permanent
Speaker 1: change or we're gonna still see We're gonna see Chads
Speaker 1: Green in the future. All right, Thanks for cal It's
Speaker 1: funny you say that. Jason Garrett is never gonna He's
Speaker 1: never going to admit that something like that is settled
Speaker 1: because it's have your best Wednesday, have your best Thursday.
Speaker 1: There's always competition. But if I tell me John, it
Speaker 1: certainly seems like Jonathan Cooper has taken the starting left
Speaker 1: guard job. I mean, he's working with the first team
Speaker 1: this week, he's started the last two weeks. Last time
Speaker 1: they played, Chaz was completely healthy and he still started.
Speaker 1: And that's you know, Garrett basically, he's like, well, there's
Speaker 1: always there's always a competition, but Jonathan Cooper will be
Speaker 1: working with the first team at practice. It's like you
Speaker 1: can just say it, man, Like you can just say it.
Speaker 1: So yeah, for the for the time being, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: barring an injury or some really bad play on his part,
Speaker 1: it seems like he has the job right now. Coaches
Speaker 1: say that stuff it when it's convenient for them, right.
Speaker 1: But like when he says, I don't like to compare players,
Speaker 1: you compare players every second of the day. That's what
Speaker 1: you do. You compare the fact that Dak Prescott is
Speaker 1: better than Kellen Moore. So that's why he takes all
Speaker 1: the I mean, it's always about comparing players. So the
Speaker 1: competition doesn't want to compare players publicly. He just doesn't
Speaker 1: want to have a sound bite of him saying something
Speaker 1: that could be perceived as Jason Garrett didn't want to
Speaker 1: talk about the mechanics of the read option in his
Speaker 1: press conference yesterday. He was like, well, we don't want
Speaker 1: to get into the strategy of all that, and Todd
Speaker 1: Archer was like, asked him right there, He was like,
Speaker 1: what could you possibly think you're going to give away
Speaker 1: about how you hand the ball off? To a running back.
Speaker 1: I see the look on to Oh, it was great,
Speaker 1: and like it's just like, come on, man, you gotta
Speaker 1: draw the line somewhere. Ye, turn off the recording. Let's
Speaker 1: talk about that off off the record. Yeah, all right,
Speaker 1: let's let's get another question. Let's get a question from Twitter. Now, Okay,
Speaker 1: this one is kind of long, so just bear with me.
Speaker 1: Does Joe Looney have quote unquote a prayer of a
Speaker 1: chance at getting any snaps at left guard other than
Speaker 1: an injury happening to Green or Cooper? He played an
Speaker 1: extended goal line short yardage role last year. Is he
Speaker 1: nowhere near Green or Cooper's level? If we were gonna
Speaker 1: see that happen short of injury, I think we would
Speaker 1: have seen it by now. Like he's pretty firmly entrenched
Speaker 1: as jumbo guy slash backup center slash emergency guard. I
Speaker 1: mean that during training camp when they were trying to
Speaker 1: figure out what they were going to do there, and
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying Andre Geraud's name, they gave every
Speaker 1: single guy on the team that they thought could do
Speaker 1: it a look, and Joe wasn't really and none of them,
Speaker 1: which you know, and you know, no, no, prayer of
Speaker 1: a chance. I don't. I mean, you know, yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: not trying to sound glib or whatever, but I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't see that happening unless something drastic happens. You
Speaker 1: think his face has something to deal with being like,
Speaker 1: are you tough enough for this job? Definitely not, because
Speaker 1: he's just so jolly. That's wrong with that? Asked the question.
Speaker 1: It's silly, So you know I love him. I love him,
Speaker 1: That's why I love I love I think he's I
Speaker 1: think he's great. But I honestly don't think that would
Speaker 1: disrespectful that Zeke Elliot's silly. He's good, Joe, there's nothing
Speaker 1: It's pretty good. Are you kidding? At a point? No,
Speaker 1: it's not the same kind of seiliness. Okay, Zeke, you're
Speaker 1: trying to say, You're trying to say that Joe is
Speaker 1: is more goofy than he is goofy. You can't compare
Speaker 1: the two. Zeke is a goofy dude. Have you spent
Speaker 1: time in that locker room like he's a weirdo? Um No,
Speaker 1: not the same level. There's nothing more terrifying than when
Speaker 1: Joe Looney calls the huddle for the second team offense.
Speaker 1: Just if anybody wanted to know what he do. He
Speaker 1: barks huddle like, but it sounds demonic. He's like, like
Speaker 1: you can hear it from like fifty yards away. It's terrifying. Oh,
Speaker 1: I don't tell me, don't tell me, Joe. It sat
Speaker 1: like serious, listen for it. The goofy guys also, Oh,
Speaker 1: I love watching him because as goofy as he is,
Speaker 1: when he's in there and he takes a role of
Speaker 1: being aggressive and you know he's playing tough, it's like
Speaker 1: a completely different guy. But it's still hilarious to see it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was like the day when he got into the fight, Like,
Speaker 1: it's like Joe fighting? Why is Joe? What are you?
Speaker 1: What did somebody do to Joe to make you want
Speaker 1: to fight? Okay, guys, do you guys think that Ryan
Speaker 1: Switzer will have his first career touchdown and kick punt
Speaker 1: return against the forty nine ers? No, hope. Nick said
Speaker 1: they're the best in the league at punt coverage, right,
Speaker 1: they do. I haven't seen anything this Jay that you
Speaker 1: know you can't have to see it. Let's get a
Speaker 1: phone call from Horse in Atlanta. Horse, what up? Hey,
Speaker 1: what's up? Guys? Hey? They've been listening to you, and
Speaker 1: I really love the shows and especially the the alterney
Speaker 1: that came or appreciate that. Thanks. Hey. One thing I
Speaker 1: think that you could ask your list Derek is coaching
Speaker 1: of blowing time management because I believe that they lost
Speaker 1: that game last week because of that play call. I mean,
Speaker 1: if he runs that ball, we win the game. They can't,
Speaker 1: they don't have enough time. We've win the game if
Speaker 1: you just run that ball and you let them use
Speaker 1: their time out. So I think that is key. Second
Speaker 1: of all, we've really got to get better, I think,
Speaker 1: and Nick, you've you've mentioned this before. We have to
Speaker 1: get some big name players on defense. We can't just
Speaker 1: have a bunch of no name given a bunch of effort,
Speaker 1: which is good. We want effort, but we also want
Speaker 1: a lot of talent. We need to the Forest buttoners
Speaker 1: from Nebron Bowman to go along with Sean Lee so
Speaker 1: that we can make plays. And I have a question
Speaker 1: for you, what would be if we had to draft
Speaker 1: right now, what would be the position that you feel
Speaker 1: that we were mostly receiver, linebacker, safety, you know, decent
Speaker 1: of the end. What would be your number one position
Speaker 1: regardless of where we drafted, you know, feel like you're
Speaker 1: going to get a very good player. What would be
Speaker 1: your first point of attention to that? All right, yeah,
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Thanks for the call. Can I can
Speaker 1: say one thing real quick? I still don't believe if
Speaker 1: they you can make a definitive call and say, if
Speaker 1: they would have run the ball, they win that game.
Speaker 1: I think when Aaron Rodgers on the opposite side of feel,
Speaker 1: I don't think you needed more than forty seconds. But
Speaker 1: you know that's just my opinions. It's a little too
Speaker 1: simplistic to say, if you run the ball, you win
Speaker 1: the game. But there's more they could have done. To me, no, absolutely, absolutely,
Speaker 1: And I you know I've agreed with the whole point
Speaker 1: of they should have run instead of throw the ball,
Speaker 1: just because they could have taken that extra time out
Speaker 1: and that does change how the package would have to
Speaker 1: run that last that last drive. I say this, I
Speaker 1: say this all the time, and I'll say it again.
Speaker 1: I think from Monday to Saturday, Jason Garrett's phenomenal at
Speaker 1: what he does, like the messaging and the keeping people
Speaker 1: on task, all that stuff. I don't think I don't
Speaker 1: think he's that awesome of a game day coach in
Speaker 1: terms of like time management, situations, adjustments, stuff like that. Like,
Speaker 1: I don't think that's his strength as a coach. When
Speaker 1: you say that, though, um, I look at this defense
Speaker 1: and I do think, well, this is gonna sound crazy
Speaker 1: because its defense has been so bad this year. But
Speaker 1: I do think that what you notice a lot is,
Speaker 1: at least this year, the first drive they usually give
Speaker 1: up a score. After that, the defense tends to do
Speaker 1: whatever they do. I don't know if it's adjustments that
Speaker 1: they're making, it they're settling in or what, but it
Speaker 1: seems like they get better after that first drive. Now,
Speaker 1: of course they still give up a ton of points,
Speaker 1: so I'm not I'm not saying this defense by any
Speaker 1: means is a great defense, but I think it does
Speaker 1: fly a little bit in the face of them not
Speaker 1: making and I know this this gets leveled against Marinelli
Speaker 1: as well, of them not making adjustments. I think they do,
Speaker 1: and I think they get they start. They tend to
Speaker 1: show those moments when they go from giving up too
Speaker 1: many giving up scores and then kind of settling in
Speaker 1: and stopping making stops. I mean, I'll can see that. Really,
Speaker 1: I'm time and game management is that stuff that drives
Speaker 1: me crazy. But it's most fans will only say that
Speaker 1: and critics or whatever, they only really say that when
Speaker 1: they lose, because nobody looks at it and goes great
Speaker 1: game management there. You know, how many games did they
Speaker 1: play last year? Were they want at the end? I
Speaker 1: mean they had a lot of close games. They manage
Speaker 1: the game well, no one ever says good job Jason Garrett. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: people the negative, that's what I'm saying. I mean they went,
Speaker 1: they at a game in Philadelphia, fourth and one, They
Speaker 1: could have kicked a field goal and take the three
Speaker 1: point lead, or they said, you know what, we're gonna
Speaker 1: go for the touchdown, and they did. They went won
Speaker 1: the game and that was a great job. In hindsight,
Speaker 1: it was great game management. But it doesn't ever get
Speaker 1: put on game management until you lose it. Well, and
Speaker 1: I would argue, I don't have the stats to back
Speaker 1: this up, but I would argue, and if I went back,
Speaker 1: I'm confident I could find it that there's situations where
Speaker 1: you're like, well, probably wasn't the best way to play that,
Speaker 1: but it doesn't. It's a footnote because you won the game,
Speaker 1: and so the obviously these things really only rise to
Speaker 1: the point where you're talking about it on a podcast
Speaker 1: if you don't win, right and I'm sure there's times
Speaker 1: when they did exactly the right thing to do and
Speaker 1: they still lost the game. Absolutely, it would works. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: they would have. If they would have run the ball,
Speaker 1: they would have less time for Rogers. I don't think
Speaker 1: there's a way unless they're just a breakdown and coverage.
Speaker 1: There's probably not a way that they lose the game there.
Speaker 1: But you know, he's got to get to the forty. Well,
Speaker 1: but they could kick a field goal and tie it
Speaker 1: and then we'll see what happened. When you say breakdown
Speaker 1: and coverage, we saw that happened last year. We got
Speaker 1: for a seven yard touchdowns. What I'm talking about, Oh,
Speaker 1: you're taught. If all they had was a chance for
Speaker 1: a hell marriage, I'm saying that we saw that going
Speaker 1: to lose the game. If they would have run the
Speaker 1: ball there, they probably don't lose the game. In regulation.
Speaker 1: I still think Rogers who could have had enough time
Speaker 1: for a field goal and then we'll see what happens
Speaker 1: there and maybe he misses it. I mean he's missed
Speaker 1: two extra points, so I would have taken my chances there.
Speaker 1: It's a total cop out answer, but it's true. You
Speaker 1: really can't one hundred percent assess what you need in
Speaker 1: the draft until free agency is over and done. I mean,
Speaker 1: right now, DeMarcus Lawrence as part of this team. He
Speaker 1: might be here on a franchise tag, he might be
Speaker 1: here on a long term deal. He might be a
Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagle next year. I have no idea. And not
Speaker 1: only that, but I think you also have to know
Speaker 1: who's available, because sure, if you're going to say, well
Speaker 1: give me this position, well, what if that position, the
Speaker 1: player that you're getting is not as good a caliber
Speaker 1: as another position where it's a much higher caliber player.
Speaker 1: But he's available. So I think I think it. I
Speaker 1: think there's a lot more you have to know than
Speaker 1: just to say. But if if you would have heard,
Speaker 1: let's say that the draft has done it, we got
Speaker 1: a badass player. He is going to be a pro
Speaker 1: bowler for the next ten years, and you say, man,
Speaker 1: I hope he's a that's the question. That's what he
Speaker 1: was asking. Well, and I didn't. I'm totally comfortable answering
Speaker 1: that question, even not knowing, because I think regardless of
Speaker 1: what happens in free agency. Defensive end will be a
Speaker 1: need for this team. I think linebacker is probably a
Speaker 1: need for this team. Guard, and then I'll throw safety in.
Speaker 1: There is probably the fourth thing. Man, I think number
Speaker 1: one might be wide receiver. I can see what happens.
Speaker 1: And I mean, wait, you're number one. Like if you
Speaker 1: said I can't justify it as number one either, that's hard,
Speaker 1: tim and tell me why. I'm not saying it's not
Speaker 1: a need, but I can't justify it as something you
Speaker 1: need to draft in the first round. Well, like you said,
Speaker 1: free agency comes first. Let's see let's see what the
Speaker 1: Cowboys decide to do in free agency. Let's see what
Speaker 1: you know if they do what they do with the
Speaker 1: cornerbacks and decide, Hey, we're going young, We're gonna let
Speaker 1: all those guys walk. You're not letting guys. You're not
Speaker 1: letting guys. What are you doing? What do I mean?
Speaker 1: What do you have to do a wide receiver? Like?
Speaker 1: Where what is? Where's Rice? Right now? Is one guy
Speaker 1: out of six? Let's go, let's go to the top. Dez.
Speaker 1: What are you doing with Dez? Keeping him? Keeping him?
Speaker 1: But you've talked about the fact he's cost. He's gonna
Speaker 1: cost you a twelve millions gonna cost about it? So
Speaker 1: you got that decision to make Terence Williams is one
Speaker 1: how on a what three year deal? Three more? You
Speaker 1: think des and Terrence are here through twenty eighteen? Okay,
Speaker 1: and then you can probably have those conversations in twenty
Speaker 1: nineteen twelve million though you could, there is there is
Speaker 1: legitimate reason to have at least question whether they would
Speaker 1: make the decision to cut him or not. I would
Speaker 1: be surprised. I would too. I would be surprised too.
Speaker 1: But and I don't know if he's the right candidate
Speaker 1: to be restructuring and all that kind of stuff. But
Speaker 1: don't because you don't want to touch that just because
Speaker 1: you want to want it to run out when it
Speaker 1: runs out, want it to be amenable to you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because I don't have it. I'm not looking at the
Speaker 1: numbers right now, but I'm reasonably confident that you can.
Speaker 1: You can part ways with him in twenty nineteen without
Speaker 1: it's killing your cap. And so I don't want to
Speaker 1: reach eat twelve this year and just eat it, play
Speaker 1: him and then have that conversation if you need to,
Speaker 1: if he's still not justifying that in two years. I
Speaker 1: believe you could save twelve million dollars this year if
Speaker 1: you could if you cut him on June first? Is
Speaker 1: that right? Yeah? I would actually get a surprised Yeah,
Speaker 1: I would too, because but as much as people want
Speaker 1: to give Des a hard time, I still think Dez
Speaker 1: is a title. He's a top six or seven receiver
Speaker 1: in this league, and so and I that's right, And
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to cut him at all. But I
Speaker 1: think it's the decision that the Cowboys are looking at.
Speaker 1: But the thing about it's more than just say you
Speaker 1: says you're gonna save twelve million, Well, what are you
Speaker 1: also going to have to pay to get you a
Speaker 1: ride receiver in here? Yeah? Yeah? Is he going to
Speaker 1: be better than Des? Right? So it doesn't really man,
Speaker 1: And that's all the all this. I mean, Yeah, And
Speaker 1: you're not going to get Julio. You're not going to
Speaker 1: get el Odell Beckham, like whoever you want to put
Speaker 1: above him, You're not going to get that guy. You
Speaker 1: can say, you can say the same stuff about Terrence,
Speaker 1: like you could you could part ways with him or
Speaker 1: make it work, But is the need to upgrade that
Speaker 1: more drastic? Than trying to get pass rushers or line linebacker.
Speaker 1: Scares me because you don't know one hundred percent what
Speaker 1: Jalen's gonna be, that's gonna be great next year. You hope,
Speaker 1: you hope, you don't want to play. Anthony Hitchins is
Speaker 1: in a contract year, Damien Wilson is nearing the end
Speaker 1: of his contract. Sean Lee isn't getting any younger. So
Speaker 1: that I mean, that's something that I look at as
Speaker 1: concerning if I had a chance to get a top
Speaker 1: notch player, I would want it to be a safety.
Speaker 1: I just think they haven't really had a good safety
Speaker 1: so long. And if you give me an ad read,
Speaker 1: is it one of those out there? Sure they just
Speaker 1: scrow on. I'll take one of those. Get I want
Speaker 1: that guy, somebody that that you know is gonna make
Speaker 1: a lot of plays as a physical player, he's gonna
Speaker 1: get you know, he's just a ball hawk, just knows
Speaker 1: where to line up up and line everybody else up.
Speaker 1: Any of those coming out of college draft guy, it's
Speaker 1: I honestly, it's too early for me to do. I
Speaker 1: don't if I thought about it, I'm sure unless you
Speaker 1: got one of those coming down the pipe line, safety.
Speaker 1: Not probably not in twenty eighteen, but eventually. Um, what
Speaker 1: I want, probably not in the first round. I want
Speaker 1: to spend like pick what's whatever, say their third round
Speaker 1: pick is like in the seventies. I want to spend
Speaker 1: that on a guard. I'm with you on that plug
Speaker 1: and play mid I mean, you know, Trey Turner, who
Speaker 1: was actually from LSH was the guy they would have
Speaker 1: drafted if they hadn't traded up for DeMarcus Lawrence. That's
Speaker 1: what I want. I'd even take a second round on
Speaker 1: a guy like that, Gabe Jackson, do it. Just got
Speaker 1: a big extension in Oakland, second round, third round pick.
Speaker 1: I would absolutely do it. Yeah, but coming yeah, because
Speaker 1: they're not guarantee when you get you know, a guy
Speaker 1: like Chas Green in the third round that you're he's
Speaker 1: just gonna come right in and play. And I'm gonna
Speaker 1: ask a crate. So I'm gonna ask a crazy question. Though.
Speaker 1: I would you also, and don't want to get too
Speaker 1: far to draft, but would you also at what point
Speaker 1: do you start thinking about your left tackle that's got
Speaker 1: back issues? At what point do you start thinking, we
Speaker 1: gotta we gotta consider this, because right now, even if
Speaker 1: you brought in somebody they could, at the worst be
Speaker 1: a swing tackle for you. I'm not ready to have
Speaker 1: that conversation. There's a lot of positions. That's also the
Speaker 1: nature of the NFL, Dave, you said it best earlier
Speaker 1: this week. This NFL, it's structured so that you can't
Speaker 1: fill every position. That's how they set it up. So
Speaker 1: you can't fill every position, so you always get Every
Speaker 1: team is always gonna have holes, and you got to
Speaker 1: make tough decisions on where you want to spend your money. Okay,
Speaker 1: we spend it everywhere. That being said, you you want
Speaker 1: to get a new left tackle, I'm just asking. I
Speaker 1: wasn't saying that, all right, but I'll trying to cut
Speaker 1: all the cowboys best players right now? Well I am not.
Speaker 1: At some point, you give it a dack to gotta
Speaker 1: get a tight end, and that's for real. You gotta
Speaker 1: get a tight end at some point, right man. I
Speaker 1: don't I don't even want to have that discussion. This episode,
Speaker 1: Nick and Derek cut Winton as and Tyron Smith just
Speaker 1: wipe them all off the roster, just start over, right.
Speaker 1: It's funny because they're like, I didn't cut Jason Witten.
Speaker 1: Roster right the future. I didn't you would think that
Speaker 1: the Cowboys are like two and eight with how much
Speaker 1: we're talking about this right now. But that's they're not
Speaker 1: season three done. Huh two and three, two and three.
Speaker 1: There's a lot more football to play, guys, and they're
Speaker 1: actually gonna make the playoffs. Well, they gotta have this one.
Speaker 1: That was me that said it. Yeah, I said they
Speaker 1: gotta have this one. If they're gonna make the right
Speaker 1: about that, they do need to have this. I will
Speaker 1: panic on Monday if they're not. If they definitely, yeah money.
Speaker 1: If they lose this game, they're not gonna make the playoffs.
Speaker 1: There we go. I'm gonna like mark it down, circle
Speaker 1: it and right. All right, So let's get to our picks.
Speaker 1: Let's get to our picks. Yea at a time. You
Speaker 1: forgot it's Friday, didn't you. Um I need a pick.
Speaker 1: Let's start with Amber. Amber, give me a pick for
Speaker 1: the game. Thirty twenty eight Cowboys win. Yeah, thirty twenty
Speaker 1: eight Cowboys and Dorian Lewis makes an interception and it's
Speaker 1: gonna be a game changing play. That we go. So
Speaker 1: I'm talking about I got Jalen Smith getting a turnover.
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna he's gonna do the swipe. Yeah, he'll,
Speaker 1: he'll He'll have a couple of swipes in the game.
Speaker 1: He's gonna have a couple of big plays. It's gonna
Speaker 1: be his best game. That's tends to happen when you
Speaker 1: got oh got hitchings bag. Yeah, Lee bat. Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: gonna play really well in the game. He'll have a
Speaker 1: couple of nice players to turnover. I think the Cowboys
Speaker 1: will win. It'll be it'll be close for a little while.
Speaker 1: I think the Cowboys will win twenty seven to seventeen.
Speaker 1: Twenty seven and seventeen, all right, Davey, I'm thinking they
Speaker 1: get back to basics a little bit here. I'm expecting
Speaker 1: things from Jason Witten in this game because it's the
Speaker 1: forty nine Ers defense. Like I said, they don't impress me.
Speaker 1: They might be able to do some things against the run,
Speaker 1: which is why I look for dak to look around.
Speaker 1: Witten should be there. He's always there. Seems like they
Speaker 1: tried to get him more involved after forgetting about him
Speaker 1: for a couple of weeks. So I think he's gonna
Speaker 1: score two touchdowns. Okay, just because it'll be easy and
Speaker 1: it'll be there for him, and it'll be close in
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter, but the Cowboys will score and it'll
Speaker 1: be thirty one seventeen, and like people looking at home
Speaker 1: will be like, Oh, they handled him, and it was
Speaker 1: actually way closer than that. Yeah, okay, I actually think
Speaker 1: I'm on the same page with you on the Witten,
Speaker 1: but it's a different guy. It's it's more beastly. I
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be what we've seen a lot of
Speaker 1: teams do. They've tried to take those two out, especially
Speaker 1: in specific situations. I don't know that. I trust that
Speaker 1: San Francisco has the personnel to be able to do that.
Speaker 1: And so because of that, I think that business gonna
Speaker 1: beginning where they get beastily going. They had two weeks
Speaker 1: to kind of figure out how to get him more
Speaker 1: involved in the offense. I think this is the week
Speaker 1: he gets going. I think the Cowboys roll, and I
Speaker 1: you know, I think it will be close for a while.
Speaker 1: I actually think by the time you get to the
Speaker 1: fourth quarter. I don't like it when you predict that
Speaker 1: they're gonna roll. You thought they were gonna roll in Denver,
Speaker 1: and they laid the biggest egg I've ever say, Denver,
Speaker 1: you said they were gonna beat Denver hand. No, no, no, late,
Speaker 1: go back and really listen to the tape. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: promise you. I thought I said that one time this year,
Speaker 1: and I thought that was when I was talking about
Speaker 1: I want to say it was the Rams, but I
Speaker 1: said the Rams. I'm pretty sure you said that, like
Speaker 1: by the fourth quarter of the Denver game, they would
Speaker 1: be well in control. I'll go pull it up. Pull
Speaker 1: that up for me. I want to see that. But
Speaker 1: I do think I do think this game, I don't.
Speaker 1: I just team hasn't earned you saying that they're gonna
Speaker 1: roll anybody. What I said it was, I said, was it.
Speaker 1: What I said was it would be close until the
Speaker 1: fourth quarter, and I think in the fourth quarter they
Speaker 1: pull it away, like, okay, score, I think the final
Speaker 1: scores thirty four twenty. I don't think they shut them down,
Speaker 1: but I think it's I don't think at the end
Speaker 1: of the game it's going to be a close game
Speaker 1: at all. Okay. Now that also that also flies in
Speaker 1: the face of what we've seen from San Francisco, because
Speaker 1: San Francisco has lost most of their games by a
Speaker 1: very very small margin. So if if if they for
Speaker 1: you to believe that, then this probably is gonna be
Speaker 1: the most close, much closer game than any of us
Speaker 1: as have predicted. I just think the Cowboys, And maybe
Speaker 1: it's maybe I'm giving it cheap predicted. Maybe maybe I
Speaker 1: am giving the benefit of the doubt to the Cowboys
Speaker 1: based upon what I saw last year. And I just
Speaker 1: keep waiting for them to get back to that, and
Speaker 1: I'm expecting them to get back to that, and at
Speaker 1: some point either I'm gonna have to come off of that. Well,
Speaker 1: they're going to get back to this week, You'll, I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear it. If they don't, then
Speaker 1: I'm coming off of it for sure. By next week,
Speaker 1: I'm picking the other team. Yeah, I doubt it, You'll. Friday,
Speaker 1: Derek is gonna be like, no, can't. They're gonna still win.
Speaker 1: Pick both sides of the game. You can't talk, Nobody
Speaker 1: can talk to him. Only did that one time and
Speaker 1: it was against the Packers. And come on, guys, seriously,
Speaker 1: Oh my god. All right, guys, I appreciate you guys
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