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Speaker 1: Coming up on the Booth Review, Bobby and London historic twins,

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Speaker 1: and we.

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Speaker 2: Got the Big Fletch Command, There's Heavyweight Championship Belt.

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Speaker 3: On the line, and we got a rookie review.

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Speaker 1: All coming up on the season ending edition of The

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Speaker 1: Booth Review. Welcome into the twenty twenty five season finale

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Speaker 1: of The Booth Review Podcast. I'm Bram Weinstein with London

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Speaker 1: Fletcher and Logan Paulson. We are brought to you by

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Speaker 1: Microsoft Surface Copilot Plus PC and we are in the

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Speaker 1: Big Bear AI Command Center studio. After finishing the season

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Speaker 1: with a win. Yes, yes, finish the season differently in Philadelphia.

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Speaker 1: This time we weren't playing the same game obviously. And

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Speaker 1: since we're talking about the end, I think the most

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Speaker 1: special moment was the end. It was coordinated for you

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Speaker 1: to be in the locker room to celebrate Bobby Wagner

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Speaker 1: joining you and Ray Lewis as the only players ever

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Speaker 1: to reach two thousand career tech. So before we hand

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Speaker 1: out the belt, because he's the current reigning champion of

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Speaker 1: the Heavyweight Championship Belt, can you just share some of

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Speaker 1: your memories of being part of that moment?

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Speaker 3: Man, it was it was surreal.

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Speaker 2: I was humbled and honored that Coach Quinn asked me

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Speaker 2: to be a part of that, to be in that

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Speaker 2: moment and share that with Bobby, And I started like

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Speaker 2: kind of reflecting on what I wanted to say, because

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Speaker 2: haven't even thought about it for myself like this until

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Speaker 2: I was thinking about it for Bobby. It's like the

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Speaker 2: number is one thing, but when you realize the milestone

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Speaker 2: and all it took to to accomplish that, it's like

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Speaker 2: thousands upon thousands of hours of film study, preparation off season,

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Speaker 2: taking care of your body, paying playing through injuries, sustain excellence,

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Speaker 2: Like most people aren't willing to do that or able

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Speaker 2: for for him to accomplish that and then just like

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Speaker 2: it was like, man, it was it was. It was awesome.

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Speaker 2: It was freaking awesome. And to be at a honor

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was really cool.

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Speaker 1: You've been around a lot of great players too, do

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Speaker 1: you what do you think, like there's verifiable Hall of

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Speaker 1: famers that have been playing on this roster. This year,

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Speaker 1: von Miller reached number nine all time in sacks. So

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Speaker 1: I know it's been a really rough year, but there

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Speaker 1: have been some really incredible moments and things I think

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, even like piggybacking on the Bobby thing,

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Speaker 4: Like I just like there's I was trying to think

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Speaker 4: it's like in its own pantheon of just uniqueness and

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Speaker 4: I know, like it might not have felt it this

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Speaker 4: you guys saw that Chase young thing. I think you

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Speaker 4: He'd have to say anything to me, but like just

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and even and even thinking about Bobby and you

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Speaker 2: And it's Bobby Terry is doing it like as you

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Speaker 4: Like listen you say, like you know, willing or able,

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Speaker 4: And so it's really cool, like storm perfect storm of

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Speaker 4: Like that's something that's extremely special, Like you know, I

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Speaker 4: And again like that's that's where you see this or

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Speaker 2: And my last point, you think all the offense offensive

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Speaker 4: And it's so funny, Like we went and watched the

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Speaker 2: Talking about it, Miss, we'll talk about when they were made.

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Speaker 1: Of the three of you, ray Lewis, you Bobby, like

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Speaker 1: on our draft board as the right That wasn't you

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Speaker 1: or Bobby When you guys started your careers. You also

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Speaker 1: similarly like one very early in your career, you won

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Speaker 3: It really truly is amazing.

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Speaker 2: And then just he was a basketball player in high

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Speaker 3: It's crazy.

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Speaker 2: I think that athleticism and as you mentioned, just a

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Speaker 3: Man. It is extremely hard to people talk.

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Speaker 2: Hey, these guys getting paid a lot of money, the

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Speaker 3: That's why it's not for everyone.

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Speaker 4: It's funny you mentioned the money, Like I remember, I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I really in the end, I hope that

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Speaker 1: All right, before we do the bell, because it normally

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Speaker 1: you announced the contender, I want to announce it here

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Speaker 1: because I think it's very similar. The story's incredible. Josh

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Speaker 1: Josh Johnson. You know it was only making his eleventh

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Speaker 2: So Bobby's the right, He's the defendant chap he has

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Speaker 5: Two thousand tackles.

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Speaker 2: Tackles, you know you got to you gotta beat the

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Speaker 3: Very good you mentioned Terry. I just want to mention

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and like so again, like that game to me

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Speaker 2: Regardless of their starters weren't in These are pros on

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Speaker 5: Keiy Ringo was going to start for them this year.

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Speaker 5: I don't know where he was, like a second round pick.

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Speaker 2: Taylor's given a lot of DB's rough days. In particular,

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Speaker 3: That's right, rough days.

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Speaker 1: Fifth player franchise history to hit one thousand yards in

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Speaker 1: I'll never forget this because Jay Gruden basically hit him

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Speaker 1: never seen anything like that. They knew and they unleashed

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Speaker 3: There.

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Speaker 4: So it's crazy Tanna is on that list. I mean,

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Speaker 4: just to show how good it is. Because Tanne was

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Speaker 5: Does he over Dallas?

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Speaker 1: I forget, He's got a lot moments came against Dallas.

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Speaker 2: I think Dallas. He has the most yards against New York.

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Speaker 3: I know you remember him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, man, you talk about what Flores is now, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Yes, Jackfield.

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Speaker 2: For Terry to be able to do what he's done

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Speaker 1: pass Santanamas next year is the number for a receiver

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Speaker 1: He'd have to play a long time to catch Art

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Speaker 1: But Terry McLaurin is going up the leader board of

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Speaker 1: next year, he's going to pass Santana for number four

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Speaker 4: I mean it's cool to like, you know, like work

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Speaker 4: reminder like towent is important, but finding guys that are

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Speaker 3: The whole undrafted thing with me, I should have went.

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Speaker 5: To what are you talking about?

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Speaker 3: Because you wanted to be a point guard. That's the problem.

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Speaker 5: I'll play basketball.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if I went to Ohio State, I would have

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Speaker 5: You know what would you have played at Ohio State? Safety?

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you, just you do a million. You're

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Speaker 3: Just had to that Ohio's day. And here's the part

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Speaker 1: This is always hard for everybody like myself who have

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Speaker 1: like that. How do you know who the self starter is?

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Speaker 5: I think there's a couple of things that you look for.

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Speaker 4: Like I'm doing receivers right now, and I just watched

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Speaker 4: this evaluation is not very friendly to him. But with

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Speaker 4: To me, It's like with receivers, it's like, how do

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Speaker 5: He'll make tough contested catches.

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Speaker 4: So in terms of like, like one guy's obviously more talented,

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Speaker 4: Are you finishing the plays? Are you driving guys in

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Speaker 4: It's that extra little bit that kind of takes you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so as he continued to give maximum effort. You

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Speaker 2: Say you're a defensive player, you're down by twenty five

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Speaker 4: do you do the things that people at the position

443
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Speaker 4: don't really tip a reward? And that'll kind of inform

444
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Speaker 4: a lot of this stuff because if you look, I mean,

445
00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:05,920
Speaker 4: Terry's a great example, right he killed it on special teams.

446
00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:07,800
Speaker 5: He was a devastating blocker at Ohio State.

447
00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:09,879
Speaker 4: It shows a passion and a want to and then

448
00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:12,000
Speaker 4: you match that with the physical skill set and you

449
00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:14,359
Speaker 4: get this really nice prospect coming to the NFL.

450
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Speaker 1: We'll end the show on the futures. We do have

451
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Speaker 1: the seventh overall pick. We'll talk a little bit about that.

452
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Speaker 1: We'll talk about the schedule because we know we don't

453
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Speaker 1: know the schedule, but we know the opponents, So we'll

454
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Speaker 1: talk about that in a minute. But let's stay on

455
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Speaker 1: the season here. And there's a couple of things. One

456
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Speaker 1: that was somewhat pretty much out of their control, bad

457
00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:31,719
Speaker 1: luck with injuries. The other one is within their control

458
00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:34,560
Speaker 1: turnover margin. They talk about this over and over and over. Yes,

459
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Speaker 1: these are two truisms of the NFL. If you turn

460
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Speaker 1: the ball over more than you get the ball, you

461
00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:41,959
Speaker 1: lose a lot. And if you don't have health, you

462
00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:43,919
Speaker 1: lose a lot. And some of this is out of

463
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Speaker 1: your control. So I want to start with the injuries.

464
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Speaker 1: Thirty one players for combined one hundred and fifty eight

465
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Speaker 1: miss games, most in the NFL. Look at what happened

466
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Speaker 1: to their record, Philadelphia, And I'm not saying that this

467
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Speaker 1: is the only thing. It's a difference between the two

468
00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:59,840
Speaker 1: fewest man games lost of Week one starters of anybody

469
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Speaker 1: in the NFL. Look what happened. They won the division

470
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Speaker 1: and they're back in the playoffs again. So how much

471
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Speaker 1: do you attribute injuries to the record this season?

472
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Speaker 2: You have to attribute a lot of it. It's not

473
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Speaker 2: the only thing, but it was a big part of it.

474
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Speaker 2: I don't know what our miss games uh was and

475
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Speaker 2: how many players a season ago did that? Did those

476
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Speaker 2: numbers far less?

477
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Speaker 3: Far less? The main one starter, when these.

478
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Speaker 2: Guys are front line players, and yeah, on some teams

479
00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:32,680
Speaker 2: you can have a guy. Maybe sometimes the backup could

480
00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:35,360
Speaker 2: potentially be better than the starter, just need a little

481
00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:38,600
Speaker 2: bit more seasoning, or he's not just ready to make

482
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Speaker 2: that uh, that jump could be a drastic difference. There

483
00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:44,840
Speaker 2: were instances where we're down to you know, third fourth

484
00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:49,440
Speaker 2: guys at certain positions, and we had at one point

485
00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:52,920
Speaker 2: the wide receiver group was injury riddle. There were well

486
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Speaker 2: three or four games, No Terry Deebo was banged up,

487
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Speaker 2: No Noah Brown, Trey Burt, Trey Burks was still on

488
00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:03,080
Speaker 2: a practice squad I think at that point in time.

489
00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:09,439
Speaker 2: Then the defensive end position. Three defensive ends all injury

490
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Speaker 2: for the season. So it's met played a big part,

491
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Speaker 2: but it's not the only reason. But you cannot overlook that.

492
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Speaker 4: I mean, it's not an accident that the healthier teams

493
00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:20,359
Speaker 4: ended up making it to the super Bowl usually, right,

494
00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:22,159
Speaker 4: it's very rare that banged up team makes it. And

495
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Speaker 4: a little bit is it's just talent, Right, It's really

496
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Speaker 4: hard to find eleven good starting caliber players on offense

497
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Speaker 4: and defense, and so there is a as much as

498
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Speaker 4: people don't want to admit it, there is a drop off, right,

499
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Speaker 4: Like I always think about, like when I was here,

500
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Speaker 4: with Jordan Reid. Like Jordan Reid one of the best

501
00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:36,560
Speaker 4: receiving Titans in the NFL. When he was nicked up,

502
00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:39,600
Speaker 4: our offense when Logan Paulson was in was not as good.

503
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Speaker 4: Like was that because of lack of trying, No, Like

504
00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:44,080
Speaker 4: I really wanted to be good, but he just had

505
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Speaker 4: a physical skill set that was different, and it hurt

506
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Speaker 4: us when he wasn't in right, and so like as

507
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Speaker 4: much as it and like when London Fletcher gets hurt,

508
00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:52,560
Speaker 4: like as good as his backup is, there's going to

509
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Speaker 4: be a difference. And so I think that that's something

510
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Speaker 4: that needs to be acknowledged. And again there are things

511
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Speaker 4: you can do to manage that and mitigate that.

512
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Speaker 2: But so a critical Albus thirty three, third fourth not

513
00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:05,520
Speaker 2: they weren't calling those watchers Logan for.

514
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Speaker 4: Out of that right, And so again when that's like

515
00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:09,000
Speaker 4: that's your third downplay and you don't have him in

516
00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:12,480
Speaker 4: the game, Jordan Reid, I'm talking about, like that is impactful,

517
00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:14,560
Speaker 4: right when you don't have Terry McLaurin and a guy.

518
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Speaker 5: Like think about when he played this year.

519
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Speaker 4: I think about the Kansas City game, like how dominant

520
00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:20,160
Speaker 4: he was coming off of not playing for a couple

521
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:23,399
Speaker 4: of weeks. Right the Giants game, he's dominant, explosive plays

522
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,480
Speaker 4: like all of those things that kind of accented the

523
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Speaker 4: season last year. From a receiving standpoint, they're not there

524
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Speaker 4: when he's on the field. And that's not because people

525
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Speaker 4: behind him aren't good. It's just there's a difference. It's

526
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Speaker 4: a difference.

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Speaker 2: There's different And you'll hear a lot of people say, well,

528
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Speaker 2: the San Francisco forty nine, if they had a lot

529
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Speaker 2: of injuries this year, they did, they still won twelve

530
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Speaker 2: ball games. I'm not sure if you.

531
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Speaker 1: Were at passed by Christian McCaffrey away from making it

532
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Speaker 1: real interesting to be the one seed.

533
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Speaker 2: But you know, they've also been building that roster. Kyle

534
00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:58,600
Speaker 2: has been there what since seventeen twenty seven team, so

535
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Speaker 2: he's talking they've built this rosted up. They've had multiple

536
00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:05,520
Speaker 2: draft picks and things like that. So and it depends

537
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Speaker 2: on have you been ravashed at the same position.

538
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Speaker 4: I think that's when you're talking about San Francisco, like

539
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:14,800
Speaker 4: they've kind of taken turns, like Ricky piersoll is hurt,

540
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Speaker 4: but Christian McCaffrey's healthy. Christian McCaffrey's out, George Kittle and

541
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Speaker 4: Ricky Pierson are healthy.

542
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Speaker 5: Like they kind of took turns offensively, and that's an offensive.

543
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Speaker 3: Y'all's play really good and when party was out.

544
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Speaker 5: And that's an offensive driven football team.

545
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Speaker 1: And through the years they've gone through rashes of injuries

546
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Speaker 1: for whatever reason. For years ago, it used to be

547
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Speaker 1: the running backs. Remember they would get down to a

548
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Speaker 1: fourth fifth running back. They would end up in the game.

549
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Speaker 1: So it wasn't McCaffrey who was running the ball. They

550
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Speaker 1: were still able to at least remain competitive.

551
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Speaker 4: And again, like like Fletch's talking about though, like the

552
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Speaker 4: running back is one of those positions in my opinion,

553
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Speaker 4: where like because it's like one guy's playing, you can

554
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:49,360
Speaker 4: get pretty deep, pretty quick and still be okay, still

555
00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:52,240
Speaker 4: be functional receiver. For example, two guys are out and

556
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Speaker 4: all of a sudden you're in you're in a land

557
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Speaker 4: where two guys are on the field that don't play

558
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:57,960
Speaker 4: a lot of football, yeah, and don't have a skill set.

559
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Speaker 4: Same thing with defensive line too, Like you're two starting

560
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 4: three starting defensive ends are out. It's really it gets

561
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Speaker 4: really thin at the bottom of that tight ends. Kind

562
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Speaker 4: of funny too, because you usually have a blocking wayan

563
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Speaker 4: a pass catching guy, and so you can get away

564
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,320
Speaker 4: like if you're not gonna feel that as dramatically, but gosh,

565
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Speaker 4: receiver in D line.

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Speaker 2: Just sticking sticking with them With San Francisco, the one

567
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:23,399
Speaker 2: big difference for them this season has been Christian McCaffrey

568
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:27,600
Speaker 2: has been healthy, and so with him, he's two players

569
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Speaker 2: in that offense. You have to run an element and

570
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 2: then you have the pass catcher receiving element. There are

571
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Speaker 2: times he was averaging thirty touches a game. That's that's

572
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Speaker 2: what type of impact he has on a football field.

573
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Speaker 2: So it would be it was literally drives where I

574
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Speaker 2: think I was watching one game, but Caffrey may have

575
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Speaker 2: gotten the ball seven straight times and start to gain.

576
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Speaker 3: You can.

577
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Speaker 4: He's that kind of player. You can spam touches to him. Yes,

578
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Speaker 4: And I don't know if we have anybody. That's the

579
00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 4: thing is like they have players that are like George

580
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Speaker 4: Kittle is a top three player at the position. Christian

581
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Speaker 4: McCaffrey's top three player at the position, like when you

582
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Speaker 4: have Trent Williams top three.

583
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Speaker 3: Trip was healthy.

584
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Speaker 2: He only missed a one game the other day and

585
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Speaker 2: that was his first minute game of the season with

586
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Speaker 2: the hamstrings, and.

587
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Speaker 4: So again, like and people undervalue like having that level

588
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 4: of dominance at the position, Like you're always looking for

589
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,119
Speaker 4: blue chippers. And that's one thing that maybe we can

590
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:18,960
Speaker 4: talk about in terms of roster construction here is like,

591
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,600
Speaker 4: there are some really good players, but how many true

592
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 4: blue chippers do you have in this offense? And then

593
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:26,520
Speaker 4: it makes injuries more challenging to overcome because you don't

594
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Speaker 4: have a bunch of studs you can turn.

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Speaker 1: By the middle of the year, with all the injuries,

596
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Speaker 1: all the changes that were occurring with Jaden, the flipping

597
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:33,760
Speaker 1: around of the offensive line, all the receivers that were

598
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 1: in and out, this team changed the way it played.

599
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:38,600
Speaker 1: They went to more jumbo packages, they were using the

600
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Speaker 1: extra alignment, I think a lot more than Cliff Kingsbury

601
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Speaker 1: ever anticipated. I don't think this team played the way

602
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Speaker 1: that they expected to when they put the roster together

603
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Speaker 1: on that side of the ball. Do mainly to injuries

604
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Speaker 1: throughout the course of the year. So as you kind

605
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Speaker 1: of watched them and thought about them and saw defenses

606
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Speaker 1: adjust to them in the middle of the year, due

607
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Speaker 1: to the injuries, it kind of limited their output as well.

608
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Speaker 2: Did you when you think about the game that comes

609
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,440
Speaker 2: to mind, or a couple of games coming to mind

610
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 2: was the Chicago Bears. That Chicago and Dallas. Those were

611
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 2: back to back games where the Bears came into that

612
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 2: game a high volume of zone coverage, just not not

613
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,880
Speaker 2: blitz a lot. And then we played them, they were

614
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:21,879
Speaker 2: blitzing like crazy, playing a ton of man and man

615
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:25,399
Speaker 2: and they were they felt comfortable doing that because again

616
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:28,919
Speaker 2: no offense to any of those other guys, but we

617
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:32,159
Speaker 2: didn't have a Terry, no Noah Brown.

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Speaker 3: Just the receiving corps was banged up. It was just

619
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Speaker 3: a totally.

620
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Speaker 2: Different environment at the receiving corp and these guys are like, hey,

621
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Speaker 2: we don't take our chances by blitzing playing man coverage.

622
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Speaker 2: Then the next week against the Cowboys, we had Debo

623
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:51,399
Speaker 2: didn't even play that game because he had to heal injury.

624
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Speaker 2: We was a very tight end centric offense.

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Speaker 3: That yeah, it was exact who who led us in

626
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Speaker 3: chosen did he leave us? I think that Robbie and

627
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Speaker 3: zach rs.

628
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Speaker 2: I mean it was just like, you're limited on what

629
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Speaker 2: you can do from our offense standpoint. Defenses took advantage

630
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Speaker 2: of that.

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Speaker 1: Yep on let's stay on the injury. Final'll get to

632
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 1: the turnovers in a minute. Jane Daniels his season is

633
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 1: marred by injuries, three different ones and in reaggravation. Last

634
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,359
Speaker 1: four games he played wasn't able to finish, so he

635
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 1: ended up playing in seven games. Twelve hundred and sixty

636
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Speaker 1: two yards, eight touchdowns, three picks, two seventy eight on

637
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Speaker 1: the ground, two rushing touchdowns. I think trying to have

638
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Speaker 1: an idea of where he is through year two is

639
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 1: totally incomplete because he just did not play enough and

640
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 1: weeks in a row to I think judge it, but

641
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Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys feel differently about it.

642
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 2: No I totally feel that way because the first of all,

643
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 2: the office of unit that projected day one start as

644
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 2: week one starters have any practice time together.

645
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 3: The whole entire offseason, the whole year. Yeah, So I

646
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 3: mean they played.

647
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Speaker 1: From day one and training camp, the group that they

648
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 1: thought would be the starting unit never practiced together.

649
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 3: Have practice to gather you get.

650
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 2: They played together in Week one against the Giants and

651
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 2: then Noah got injured in Week two against the YEP against.

652
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 3: The Eckler got injured Early got injured.

653
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Speaker 2: So it's just this thing where they never were able

654
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 2: to get a true chemistry and a rhythm throughout the

655
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 2: court of the season. With Jaden, he never was able

656
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 2: to get a rhythm in a in a consistency and

657
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 2: comfortable with his receiving core. So it's it's totally incomplete.

658
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Speaker 2: You can't say it's it was a learning thing for him,

659
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Speaker 2: but in terms of just hey, I'm going through this,

660
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Speaker 2: this adversity I got to deal with.

661
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:51,479
Speaker 3: But it's definitely in complete.

662
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 5: It's definitely incomplete. But I do think there are a

663
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 5: couple of things you can take away, right.

664
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Speaker 4: I think when you look at like the Chargers game,

665
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Speaker 4: I think when you look at the Giants game, like,

666
00:29:58,120 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 4: I think you see versions of the guy we saw

667
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 4: last year, and like those games you look like an

668
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 4: absolute stud. And I think you look at the games

669
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 4: that he struggled, you know, Green Bay, Minnesota, the Cowboys game, right, like,

670
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 4: what are the reasons he struggled with it?

671
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 2: Right?

672
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 4: In those games, it's because of the pressure, because of

673
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 4: the lack of separation on the perimeter. And I think

674
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 4: if you're if I'm Adam Peters, if I'm someone in

675
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 4: the front office, I say, like, let's not ignore those things.

676
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 4: Let's not ignore those struggles. Let's how can we Jaden

677
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 4: has to take personal accountability and ownership of those moments.

678
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 4: But also like, can we continue to build this roster

679
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 4: so that we can avoid those same scenarios moving forward,

680
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 4: right protection plans, personnel decisions on the perimeter and in

681
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 4: the offensive front so that we can maximize his skill set.

682
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 4: So again, like I do think the evaluation is incomplete,

683
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:45,040
Speaker 4: but I do think there's data you can glean from

684
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:46,479
Speaker 4: this to kind of say, this is what we can

685
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 4: be moving forward to help maximize this and help avoid

686
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 4: this type of scenario in twenty twenty six.

687
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Speaker 2: I know he's going to be so motivated this offseason man,

688
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 2: just to attack the work and get ready for next season.

689
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 1: They clearly want him when he extends plays to throw

690
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 1: the ball more than he has, probably partially out of

691
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 1: let's limit the amount of hits that he's going to take. Secondarily, like,

692
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 1: one of the things that really stood out about him

693
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 1: coming out of college was he really know his legs

694
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 1: are obviously a humongous weapon, but he's a past first quarterback.

695
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 1: When he came in to the NFL, as you kind

696
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:21,959
Speaker 1: of see what the maturation of his career is how

697
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 1: do you work on those things so that he incorporates

698
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 1: more of it into his game moving forward?

699
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 4: Well, fus Conna test to this too, Like you know

700
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 4: when a coach gives you feedback, like they're going to

701
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 4: tell you something, it's your responsibility to improve it, right,

702
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 4: So I think like that's the one thing about Jaden

703
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 4: that I talk about his legs, his composure, his passing.

704
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 4: He is a worker and so that you talk about

705
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 4: things that give you confidence of players going to improve

706
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 4: is like I say, hey, we want you to improve

707
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 4: in this area. Like he's going to go this offseason

708
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 4: and work on that stuff. And that's the only way

709
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 4: I know how to change it. That's everyone. There's no

710
00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 4: magic like, oh, you're gonna go see this coach and

711
00:31:58,960 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 4: he's going to magically make you.

712
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 5: Got to rep it, watch it.

713
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 2: You have to do the work, man, that's the only

714
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 2: way you you you get it down, nailed down. And

715
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 2: here's the kicker, you have to continue to do it,

716
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 2: like you always have to continue to work on these things.

717
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 2: It's uh, it's not all right, I've arrived. I mean

718
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 2: it's painstaking attention to detail. When I say there's a

719
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 2: reason why people aren't willing or able to do this

720
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 2: stuff year and the year and year out because it

721
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 2: has to be done day in and day out, and

722
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 2: it is hard. And if there was a short cut,

723
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 2: most people would do it. But the shortcut is not

724
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 2: the answer. Yeah, there is no There is no quick

725
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 2: shot you can take to be an elite quarterback. You

726
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 2: can't go get some a zippic and b be this

727
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 2: this Hall of Fame quarter You know I was talking

728
00:32:56,160 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 2: to friends earlier to day, uh free free Yeah. Yeah,

729
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 2: so but just you know, people want to they won't

730
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 2: quick they want to write. Now there's a w no

731
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 2: microwave answer. You got to put in the work man.

732
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 4: So and Jade is a worker, like the thing like

733
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 4: I like, so I do these like I go to

734
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 4: like tight ends and I mentor them for the draft. Right,

735
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 4: And so I told this story all the time, Like

736
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 4: there was a coach Shanahan and he was like, logan,

737
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 4: if you don't get your second step down in the

738
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 4: run gammon outside zone, like, you won't play.

739
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 5: So I said, well, I'm gonna work on it.

740
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 4: And so I'd go watch TV and I'd have a

741
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 4: little setup and I'd do it every night, fifteen twenty minutes,

742
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 4: and then all of a sudden it was like, like

743
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 4: I want to say, it was like probably six weeks

744
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 4: later and coaches like, man, like, how did you get

745
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 4: your second step down?

746
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 5: That's great? It was like it wasn't like that one time.

747
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 4: It's six weeks, seven weeks of obsessing about it, and

748
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 4: then they'd give you a new detail and you say,

749
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 4: I got to get better at this, and like that

750
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 4: is the thing like to young players And this is

751
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 4: why Jane is such a fun guy to think about

752
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 4: and in terms of moving forward, is you give that

753
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 4: to a lot of young players and they'll do it

754
00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 4: for ten days, They'll do it when it's convenient for them.

755
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 4: Jaden I think understands the importance of taking that feedback

756
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,319
Speaker 4: and obsessing over it. And that obsession is the thing

757
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:11,400
Speaker 4: that makes a Bobby Wagner, that makes a London Fletcher,

758
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 4: that makes a Brian Mitchell. Like that's the thing that

759
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:15,319
Speaker 4: makes him great. And that's the thing that I get

760
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 4: really excited about with him, is that I think he

761
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 4: gets that at the most profound life.

762
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 1: I mean, there are two MVPs that didn't make the

763
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 1: playoffs this year Lamar Jackson, whose team lost last night

764
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 1: at the Buzzer, and Pat Mahomes, who their season went

765
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 1: sideways before he got injured.

766
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:30,839
Speaker 5: Yeah.

767
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 3: So it's a testament too.

768
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 1: I don't care how great you are, year after year

769
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:36,399
Speaker 1: after year, You've got to get better.

770
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:40,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm talking about a year after year there's no

771
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,320
Speaker 2: here's what I look at too, and having so the

772
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 2: year we won a Super Bowl in Saint Louis, we're

773
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Speaker 2: the young second I think second youngest team in a

774
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:53,440
Speaker 2: National Football League man greatest sng tern. We went thirteen

775
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 2: to three that year, could have easily went fourteen and two.

776
00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 2: Actually we were a fourth and twenty six from going

777
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 2: fifteen and one. We gave up a big play on defense.

778
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 2: They end up against the Detroit Lions. They ended up winning,

779
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 2: winning that game.

780
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:10,320
Speaker 3: Game was over.

781
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 2: Win the super Bowl the next that off season, I

782
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 2: can honestly say I don't think we attacked it the

783
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,879
Speaker 2: way we needed to. We did not have the right

784
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 2: work ethic, like realizing that okay, we got a bulls

785
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 2: eye on our back. First and foremost, because we were young,

786
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:33,360
Speaker 2: we think, oh man, this is gonna be easy. Didn't

787
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 2: attack it the right way, did not come and realize

788
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:40,759
Speaker 2: last year's effort is not gonna be good enough this year,

789
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,239
Speaker 2: and we had to win the last game of the

790
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 2: season to make the playoffs.

791
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 3: Pretty much same roster.

792
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 2: We squeaked into the playoffs, and we needed somebody else

793
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,320
Speaker 2: to miss a field goal for us to make it.

794
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 2: When get into the playoffs, end up losing the first round.

795
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 2: But that's what I'm saying. You have to put that

796
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 2: work in over and over again, and yesterday's work is

797
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 2: not going to be good enough today. We got to

798
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 2: keep building building to build it.

799
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 1: Let's talk about one of the other humongous storylines of

800
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:10,799
Speaker 1: the year, which was they talk about balls life here

801
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:13,240
Speaker 1: the turnover margin went the wrong way. It was minus

802
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 1: thirteen on the season, second worst in the league. The

803
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 1: biggest issue, I think was they couldn't create takeaways. They

804
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 1: got their tenth yesterday, which was the second fewest in

805
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 1: the NFL. So let me start there, Like defensively, they

806
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 1: just could not get the ball this year. They couldn't

807
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 1: procure it.

808
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 4: And so I think, and I want to kind of

809
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 4: like I'm going to make a statement, then you can

810
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:36,400
Speaker 4: comment on this, because like I think this is really interesting.

811
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:38,760
Speaker 4: So I went back and watched Dallas when Michael Parsons

812
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:40,799
Speaker 4: was there, and they had all those turnovers, and one

813
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 4: of the things they were able to I don't want

814
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 4: to think is turnovers is like defensive back play. It's

815
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 4: the pressure. They're able to create quick pressures with Misha

816
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 4: and and you know what's the guy that's in Seattle

817
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,319
Speaker 4: now is the other defensive end Number ninety there Marcus Lawd.

818
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:54,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, DeMarcus Sorens.

819
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 4: Like those guys, uh Diggy Zoo Like those guys were

820
00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 4: excellent at creating not only pressure but quick pressure. And

821
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:02,800
Speaker 4: it forces the quarterback to get the ball out of

822
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 4: his hands before he wants to in the tight windows.

823
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 4: And the defensive backs, if they're playing with eyes on

824
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:10,359
Speaker 4: the ball and they're playing with that clock in their head,

825
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 4: got turnover. So I look at this year and I'm saying, like,

826
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,320
Speaker 4: what's the biggest difference. And I look at the injuries

827
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 4: along the defensive line and the lack of just a

828
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 4: consistent pass rush and the amount of pressure puts on

829
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 4: the back end and the ease with which a quarterback

830
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 4: can play the position. I say to myself like that

831
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 4: to me, I don't know if it's the biggest difference.

832
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 4: But that is to me the number one variable that

833
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 4: I think needs to be addressed moving forward in order

834
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:33,320
Speaker 4: for them to create turnovers.

835
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 2: Hi, you look at probably the highest producing teams turnover teams.

836
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 2: They get pressure on the quarterback, so that leads to

837
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:46,400
Speaker 2: errant those at least to sacks force fumbles and you

838
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 2: recover those. How many I don't know how many sacks

839
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 2: and forced fumbles we had on the season. Those are

840
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 2: opportunities to get the football tackle, tackling and having multiple

841
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 2: guys around round of football. We played a ton of

842
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:04,280
Speaker 2: man of man coverage, especially early, to try to alleviate

843
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:07,280
Speaker 2: the lack of pressure. Like, okay, we can't we can't

844
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 2: get generate pressure, so we're gonna blitz a loutum Like

845
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 2: when when Joe Witt was called the defense a lot

846
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 2: of that blisten. We were one of the highest blitzing

847
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 2: teams because he's like, hey, I gotta get pressure on

848
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:22,279
Speaker 2: the quarterback. But the flip side of that, I got

849
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,799
Speaker 2: to play man and man and it's tough to get

850
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 2: interceptions when you're in man coverage because you don't have

851
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 2: as much as many eyes on the quarterback and with

852
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 2: vision on the quarterback, quarterbacks. A lot of a lot

853
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 2: of quarterbacks would love to go against man pressure because hey,

854
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 2: I got this guy, this receiver, I can go to

855
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:45,800
Speaker 2: him one on one before the pressure gets here, or

856
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,399
Speaker 2: I got I got easier throws. But when you get

857
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 2: I only have to rush four and I can drop

858
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 2: seven back and coverage and they got eyes on me

859
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 2: and the pressure might be getting there and I'm throwing

860
00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:00,200
Speaker 2: it off off a back foot. Think about the uh

861
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 2: Josh Johnson's interceptions. A lot of times it's because of pressure.

862
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 2: But yeah, so it's across the field. Yeah, it's the

863
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:10,240
Speaker 2: same thing with yep, with other quarterbacks, and it starts.

864
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 2: It starts with that defensive front. You know.

865
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 1: The other thing too, is I'm trying to do the

866
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 1: numbers of my head Samer still had four interceptions, Reeves

867
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 1: had a fifth yesterday, Marshawn had one, Bobby had two,

868
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 1: Bobby had to take okay, and they had a They

869
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:24,359
Speaker 1: procured a fumble at a kickoff against Philadelphia, right, which

870
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 1: that means they only got one or two fumbles.

871
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 3: They all fall just bounces the wrong way.

872
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:33,359
Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, and that happened like in the Atlanta game.

873
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:35,920
Speaker 1: Remember Bijon fumble. But it fell right to Penix right.

874
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 1: There was a couple of others where they just happened

875
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:39,799
Speaker 1: to go back and the ball didn't bounce their way.

876
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 1: But the point there is they were not getting the

877
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 1: ball out enough. Forced fumbles and recovered fumbles were very,

878
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 1: very low this year.

879
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:51,320
Speaker 2: Again, when you're playing a lot of man and man coverage,

880
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 2: there's going to be a lot of one on one

881
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 2: tackles too. So how many times are you getting three,

882
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:01,320
Speaker 2: four or five guys hat to the football.

883
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:04,880
Speaker 3: Hey, we said we're securing the tackle, second man come.

884
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:08,720
Speaker 2: In strip, try to knock the football out, and sometimes

885
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 2: just hey, putting that hat on that football at the

886
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:10,919
Speaker 2: right time.

887
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 3: It's uh.

888
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,400
Speaker 2: I don't know who's the who's the leading leading the

889
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 2: league in turnovers right now?

890
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 4: Team?

891
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:20,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, might be the Bears, might be the Jaguars. I

892
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 3: gotta lay Jaguars at the back. But I haven't watching

893
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 3: Jags this year.

894
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 2: But matter of fact, I know they got a I

895
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 2: think they got a linebacker who had five picks.

896
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 3: Yes, and a safety yeah, three or four in the

897
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:33,439
Speaker 3: first six weeks.

898
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 2: Either pressure of a quarterback or they got vision the

899
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 2: way they play their defense.

900
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 5: And it's both. And this is one of those big

901
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 5: brain things too.

902
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 4: Like I also think like you gotta again, you've got

903
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 4: to get in past rushing situations, like so when you're

904
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 4: in third night, how do you get to third and eight?

905
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 4: You're good on first second down, right, and so like

906
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 4: I know that with the addition of Dietrich Wise and

907
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 4: some of these bigger body defensive players, like that was

908
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 4: the big motivations. We're gonna be better on first down

909
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:00,320
Speaker 4: when you get to more second along, we're going to

910
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:01,879
Speaker 4: get to more third lungs, and we're going to rush

911
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:02,280
Speaker 4: the passer.

912
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 3: And so.

913
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 4: Again that was an area that they struggled with this

914
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 4: year as well too, in terms of like fitting runs

915
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:10,840
Speaker 4: and being on the same page, getting communication locked in.

916
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 4: So I think it's getting turnovers, is a is a product,

917
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:18,800
Speaker 4: is a systematic defensive thing of just good defense.

918
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know you've heard me say this much. It's

919
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:25,279
Speaker 2: hard to rush the passer on third and two thirty

920
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 2: three because that ball more than likely is going to

921
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:29,400
Speaker 2: come out quickly.

922
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 3: They're gonna run.

923
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 5: Bears are plus twenty two. By the way, Bear's a

924
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 5: plus twenty two.

925
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's uh are they are?

926
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:35,919
Speaker 5: They leading to yep?

927
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 3: And in margin, in margin, Yeah, so they.

928
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:42,839
Speaker 2: Don't turn the ball over and they take it away. Yeah,

929
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 2: we had probably more we have last year. We didn't

930
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 2: turn the ball over at all. I think we were

931
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:51,399
Speaker 2: single digit in a turnover margin if because Jay didn't

932
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:54,320
Speaker 2: didn't throw interceptions. I don't remember a bunch of fumbles

933
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 2: by us, So we protected and them and we didn't

934
00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 2: take it away at a high clip.

935
00:41:58,480 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 5: Lest we didn't.

936
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 3: But it was again, yeah, turned it over either. Yeah.

937
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 3: All right, let's go through the rookie class here real quick.

938
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:09,799
Speaker 1: Josh Connerly got trial by fire, got thrown out there

939
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:12,760
Speaker 1: against essentially Hall of Fame level players. At the beginning

940
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 1: of the season, there's a lot of questions about was

941
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 1: he ready for that moment? And then when I talked

942
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 1: to dan Quid the other day, he said, go look

943
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:20,720
Speaker 1: at the first Dallas game, Go look at the second

944
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 1: Dallas game. You can really see the growth and his

945
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 1: numbers really really improved throughout the season. So what do

946
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:28,360
Speaker 1: you think of Connorly's rookie season.

947
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,319
Speaker 4: I mean, I think it's been tremendous, Like I think

948
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 4: he's going to be a cornerstone player, and it's like

949
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 4: he's like when I walk up the sideline on the

950
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:37,359
Speaker 4: game and I see him staying there.

951
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:38,800
Speaker 5: He's still such a baby.

952
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:40,840
Speaker 3: A baby, that's exactly. Baby.

953
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:43,439
Speaker 5: He's got the baby face. Like he's thin.

954
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 4: He's like he's gonna put on twenty pounds a muscle here,

955
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 4: like when he kind of becomes an NFL offensive lineman

956
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:51,279
Speaker 4: and just be an absolute nail leader man, because he

957
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 4: can move. Like there's a bunch of plays in the

958
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 4: Dallas game where he's out in space blocking guys. There's

959
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 4: a trap where he's able to capture this linebacker at

960
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 4: the second level, and his pass has gotten a lot better.

961
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 4: And again like I think the strength has got to

962
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 4: come a little bit and the anchor will come. It'll come,

963
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 4: And like I'm not saying it won't, but I'm saying,

964
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 4: like when you look at like what he was, I

965
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 4: remember looking at him like the first day of training

966
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 4: camp being like do his timing's messed up, his footwork's

967
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 4: messed up. And then so to go from that to

968
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 4: the guy we watched against Philly to the guy who

969
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:20,800
Speaker 4: watched against Dallas, Like, dude, I'm so excited for this

970
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:24,719
Speaker 4: young man's offseason because of the almost linear growth and

971
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:27,280
Speaker 4: that linear growth for young players. That means they're taking ownership,

972
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 4: they're taking accountability. And we talked about it with the

973
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 4: draft stuff like that. That's what you want.

974
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 5: Excuse me, you want a self starter and a guy

975
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 5: wh's gonna get better every week.

976
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:36,400
Speaker 1: And you talked earlier, like you said, like you, I

977
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 1: watched London Larmie Tunnell took him under his win from

978
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:42,279
Speaker 1: the get go, and here's a guy who also could

979
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:43,759
Speaker 1: potentially be in the Hall of Fame as well.

980
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:46,479
Speaker 2: It makes a difference, man, when you have a guy

981
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:49,839
Speaker 2: in that room, a veteran guy. I mean I had

982
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 2: it when I was a rookie guy. I went into

983
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 2: a rookie linebacker room with three or four vets that

984
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:57,920
Speaker 2: have been ten plus years in the league. And when

985
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 2: you have a guy that plays your position and shows

986
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 2: you how to prepare, a lot of times you learn

987
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 2: by just watching them. And then initially you may be

988
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:10,879
Speaker 2: a little bit hesitant to ask questions. And so later

989
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 2: on in that season, as I started to play a

990
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 2: little bit more, especially I got thrust into the starting lineup.

991
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:19,439
Speaker 2: The last game of the season against San Francisco forty

992
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:23,839
Speaker 2: nine er Jerry Rice Steve Young te O was there.

993
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:27,840
Speaker 2: They were rolling I was nervous. I asked one of

994
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 2: the veteran linebackers, like, how do you study We used

995
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:33,279
Speaker 2: to call it the hit chart, basically, how do you

996
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:35,760
Speaker 2: study the tendencies of a team?

997
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 3: Because I didn't. I wasn't there in my preparation and

998
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:39,759
Speaker 3: he taught me that.

999
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 2: So with with with Josh, he has laryered me take

1000
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 2: him under his wing watch film together ask questions of him. Dude,

1001
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:54,399
Speaker 2: Josh played every snap this season, I think, so didn't

1002
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:57,239
Speaker 2: miss a single step. Yeah, and that's unheard of.

1003
00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 4: And there's a rookie and there's something that veteran plays

1004
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 4: to this laramie point. They can help you with that.

1005
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:04,359
Speaker 4: No coach can help you with. Like I remember when

1006
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 4: I was doing with Kooley. He came up to me.

1007
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 4: He was like, hey man, why are you getting off

1008
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 4: the ball so late? And I was like, we pull

1009
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 4: the clip up. I was like, I'm not off the

1010
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 4: ball late, and he went like, play pause, play pause,

1011
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 4: play pause, and there's everyone's moving and Logan paulse and

1012
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 4: still stuck there and I was like, honestly, I don't know.

1013
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:20,799
Speaker 4: He's like, we'll go talk to Casey Ryebach and ask

1014
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:22,719
Speaker 4: him when he snaps the football and I was like,

1015
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:24,440
Speaker 4: what do you mean he's snapping it on set, Like

1016
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:27,440
Speaker 4: that's the cadence. And then so I went talked to

1017
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 4: Rye back and He's like, I actually snap it on

1018
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:31,279
Speaker 4: the s you know. And so but you know what

1019
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 4: I'm saying, But that's something that you know, there's Kyle Shanahan,

1020
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:37,799
Speaker 4: Mike McDaniel. If all these really brilliant dudes are in there,

1021
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:39,800
Speaker 4: and it takes someone who's been in the trenches to

1022
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:41,880
Speaker 4: tell you. So to Fletch's point, having a guy like

1023
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 4: tunsl in there to be like, hey, man on the

1024
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:46,360
Speaker 4: silent count, do this on the whatever like this is

1025
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 4: it's he's giving you the answers to the test.

1026
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:49,360
Speaker 5: So that mentorship.

1027
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:50,400
Speaker 3: Man. So if you.

1028
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:56,320
Speaker 2: Especially if you don't have a good coach, and we

1029
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:57,799
Speaker 2: got it. We got a great coach here, a great

1030
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:00,160
Speaker 2: office line coach. I'm just talking about. And I'm on

1031
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 2: some teams where not even I won't say good coach.

1032
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 2: A coach that may be they can show you, hey,

1033
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 2: this is your responsibilities. But it's a difference than how

1034
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 2: do I do my job? Can I can you teach

1035
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:15,880
Speaker 2: me how to do it? And it's that Vet that

1036
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:20,839
Speaker 2: can teach you, Hey, whether it's alignment techniques, all these

1037
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 2: different things that these little nuances that only a guy

1038
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 2: who's been in those wars can give you those nuggets.

1039
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:31,279
Speaker 2: And that's what that's what he's getting. And not only

1040
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:34,439
Speaker 2: not only Layer me, I me, he got a great

1041
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:37,320
Speaker 2: group of guys along that off while why these played

1042
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 2: a ton of football Alec Greddy's played a ton of

1043
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:43,759
Speaker 2: football guys is what three three times or whatever they've

1044
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:48,880
Speaker 2: been at it, be honest, man, a football player, he

1045
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:55,840
Speaker 2: got fat, yeah, trip god man, he has guys that have.

1046
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 3: Been through these wars and can feed into him. Uh.

1047
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:04,840
Speaker 1: Trey Amos before his injury, probably the most consistent corner

1048
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 1: of the team had on the team. He looked like

1049
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:09,399
Speaker 1: a day one starter in the spring. He became one

1050
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:11,400
Speaker 1: in the fall. And it's too bad a season was

1051
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:11,879
Speaker 1: cut short.

1052
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1053
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 4: And I think when you look at him, like remembering

1054
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 4: back to some of the stuff, like I wish he

1055
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:19,840
Speaker 4: could have been here, like when the communication got cleaned up,

1056
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:22,799
Speaker 4: like kind of at that Miami junction point, because there

1057
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:25,359
Speaker 4: were times where he's like he's what a great job man,

1058
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 4: like playing with great like Fletcher's talking about off man

1059
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 4: off three, playing through the football, attacking hands, playing the

1060
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 4: football well in the air. A lot of his mistakes

1061
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 4: were just things weren't communicated effectively, and man in bunches

1062
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 4: man situations. So I have you know, I probably the

1063
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 4: highest on Connolly because he played the whole season. I

1064
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 4: mean that's a hard thing to do as a rookie.

1065
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:46,880
Speaker 4: But I'm very high on Tree most and I think

1066
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:48,719
Speaker 4: there are there's areas we can grow. I think there's

1067
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:52,320
Speaker 4: like a developing his body, the physicality tackling, not that

1068
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:54,280
Speaker 4: he was a bad tackler, but just becoming more physical

1069
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 4: in that way. But I think there's a lot to

1070
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 4: be excited about with him, especially what he showed earlier in.

1071
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:02,279
Speaker 2: The yearly agree. One thing he has that you can't

1072
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:06,439
Speaker 2: teach the size. Yeah, his his his size, his length

1073
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 2: to be able to play competitive. You know, he was

1074
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 2: first round corner. He was a Trey Amins was the

1075
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:15,880
Speaker 2: first time first round corner. It was a little medical,

1076
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:19,320
Speaker 2: but hey, our our staff said, hey, we're going to

1077
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 2: take him, and he's a He's a heck of a

1078
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 2: fine at that cornerback position. He's going to get continued

1079
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 2: to get better because his injury is not one where

1080
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 2: he should miss a ton of time from our offseason

1081
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 2: training standpoint leading up and getting more reps. So I'm

1082
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 2: thrilled to see him what he looks like next season.

1083
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:42,360
Speaker 1: Jalen Lane two punt returns for touchdowns, first rookie to

1084
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 1: do that in this uniform since the nineteen fifties, first

1085
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:48,440
Speaker 1: one since Brian Mitchell, any at any point in their

1086
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 1: career to do it.

1087
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 5: Fifties.

1088
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 3: He be Miss could have played in the fifties. They

1089
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 3: drafted him. Well you you went us. What we were

1090
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 3: talking about beating would like to play without help.

1091
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:05,880
Speaker 2: Or you with this and we were talking about, uh,

1092
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 2: we're talking about guys who played the fifties and the sixties.

1093
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:11,719
Speaker 2: I was like, b Mitch could have played any era.

1094
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:16,360
Speaker 2: Those guys used to They smoked cigarettes and a lot halftime.

1095
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 2: I says, if he was a boxer, it would be

1096
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 2: bare knuckle box.

1097
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 3: They would drink beer.

1098
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:23,400
Speaker 2: I was like, man, b bitch would have took a

1099
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 2: shot at Jack Daiels went out on the sideline, went

1100
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:28,800
Speaker 2: out and return to kick for a touchdown.

1101
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 3: Man, That's that's how that got funny.

1102
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:33,359
Speaker 1: Like speaking of him, I mean link Carlton multiple times

1103
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 1: and asked him for his advice.

1104
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:37,880
Speaker 3: You know that's yeah, and that's invaluable.

1105
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:44,879
Speaker 2: I mean you we as former guys were all if

1106
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 2: a guy asked me, I'm not gonna go and approach,

1107
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 2: and he say to anybody because they have coaches. But

1108
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:53,359
Speaker 2: if somebody comes to me, hey, what do you think

1109
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:56,319
Speaker 2: about this? Or man, all right, you know you give

1110
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:59,440
Speaker 2: that information, but you hey, do what your coaches diad.

1111
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 2: But you know these are it might be a little

1112
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 2: nugget here or there. You got, you got sad Tana

1113
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:06,920
Speaker 2: Moss one of the great Yeah, people like that town

1114
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 2: is so humble, Like I forget how that dude man,

1115
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 2: there's time I watched we played with him, and there's

1116
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 2: highlights to come up when you see the highlight against

1117
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:19,040
Speaker 2: the Jacksonville Jaguars.

1118
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 3: And I know, Brad, you you've been a fan of

1119
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:22,359
Speaker 3: all your life of the team.

1120
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:25,399
Speaker 1: I was actually a sideline reporter the first time around

1121
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:26,880
Speaker 1: when I was on the broadcast when he and I

1122
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 1: was on the games that game, I got to interview

1123
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 1: him after he made the touchdown on the field.

1124
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 5: So you're on the sideline for that. Yeah, how was

1125
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:33,760
Speaker 5: that environment?

1126
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:34,880
Speaker 3: I'll never forget it?

1127
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:38,320
Speaker 1: Like he barely could get words out, you know, and

1128
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:41,759
Speaker 1: he cursed or something like whatever he blurted out.

1129
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:46,320
Speaker 2: But that was but just like I saw these highlights

1130
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:51,880
Speaker 2: and I'm like like, like, man, I I I know

1131
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:53,880
Speaker 2: he was a dude, but just even I had to

1132
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:56,359
Speaker 2: look at him in the hole seeing that game.

1133
00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 3: He mentioned a game against the Giants.

1134
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:01,440
Speaker 2: I think he had three touchdowns on Christmas Day and

1135
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:05,360
Speaker 2: I don't know if it was or somewhere around Christmas

1136
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:06,160
Speaker 2: in New York.

1137
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:08,719
Speaker 4: Did I tell you this story? So my first year

1138
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:12,919
Speaker 4: is Kyle Shanahan's first year. So Kyle Ultimate Ball Noer.

1139
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:15,879
Speaker 4: Mike's in the room all you know what. The first

1140
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:19,239
Speaker 4: thing we did was watch just Santana Moss highlight. Really

1141
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:20,920
Speaker 4: I'm not kidding because he was like this is what

1142
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:23,320
Speaker 4: this dude like. He basically was telling the rooms like

1143
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 4: you might not know young guys, but this is how

1144
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 4: sick this guy is. And so it's all these screens

1145
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 4: of the house posts of the house Monday Night mirror,

1146
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 4: and it was just like and I was a fan

1147
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:34,759
Speaker 4: of Santana, but like like when you see it laid

1148
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:37,800
Speaker 4: out by a nowher of ball, like Kyle Shanhan, You're like,

1149
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:39,839
Speaker 4: this is like a special moment.

1150
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 3: You know what I mean, Like you.

1151
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:46,279
Speaker 2: Smooth, he's a clown, but Smoot was the hell of

1152
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 2: a football player. I bust his chops all the time.

1153
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:52,279
Speaker 2: He knows ballfoot you mentioned Brian Mitchell. I mean, this

1154
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 2: is wealth of talent. So Jalen being a smart guy

1155
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:57,400
Speaker 2: he is, and be Mitch making it hey man, if

1156
00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:00,760
Speaker 2: you ever need call me in. So when it happens

1157
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 2: is I love to see that type of stuff.

1158
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:03,919
Speaker 3: I just love it, man.

1159
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 4: And with Jalen, I think a lot of fans will

1160
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 4: be like, well, he really didn't perform as a receiver.

1161
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 4: But I think like the expectation for whom was to

1162
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:11,759
Speaker 4: come in and be a full time punt returner and

1163
00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:14,719
Speaker 4: then grow into a receiver. And so because the expectation,

1164
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 4: like the game changed on him. I thought he did

1165
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 4: well enough with the receiver stuff, and I think we

1166
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 4: see what he can be as a returner and I

1167
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 4: think he can grow into more. So I think that's

1168
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 4: where people get like he talk to fans like, oh,

1169
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:27,400
Speaker 4: we didn't do well. That wasn't what he was supposed

1170
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 4: to be. Supposed to come in and be a full

1171
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 4: time returner. And could you imagine if he dedicated every

1172
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:33,360
Speaker 4: resource to returning punts.

1173
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:35,240
Speaker 5: This year, he probably would have broken the record.

1174
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 3: Yep, came and Drono didn't play very much. Do you

1175
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:38,400
Speaker 3: have anything to So?

1176
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:39,840
Speaker 4: I think the thing about Kane is like it was

1177
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:42,400
Speaker 4: nice to see a guy who was a raw, very

1178
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 4: like doing the scattering and put on him tremendous athlete.

1179
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:49,319
Speaker 4: Very raw needed to develop as a tackler, and what's

1180
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 4: the best way to do that is to earn your

1181
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 4: way in a special team. So for a long time

1182
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:54,440
Speaker 4: he wasn't even doing that. And then I'd say, kind

1183
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:56,080
Speaker 4: of that midpoint of the year, to see him get

1184
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:59,920
Speaker 4: on teams and start being that dog special teams guy

1185
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:02,719
Speaker 4: is valuable. And to hear him talk now, like in

1186
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:04,920
Speaker 4: interviews and stuff like, because the thing that he did

1187
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 4: a great job at UCLA is playman coverage and get

1188
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:10,120
Speaker 4: the ball, produce the ball e whether it's punching the

1189
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 4: ball out or get interceptions. And thinking of him in

1190
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:15,640
Speaker 4: that like Buffalo Nickel highbred role kind of a defensive

1191
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:18,880
Speaker 4: package next year. That's on the table for me because

1192
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:20,920
Speaker 4: of all he did on special teams, because it shows

1193
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 4: a maturation in the tackling and the physicality.

1194
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he'll he'll benefit from a off season NFL

1195
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:30,239
Speaker 2: offseason in the strength program as well, because there were

1196
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:33,440
Speaker 2: times where like they asked him to play the Frankie

1197
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 2: Loulou position. He's on to having to set the edge,

1198
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:38,880
Speaker 2: and you know you got to you got to be

1199
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 2: a grown man out there. Said that is so he'll he'll,

1200
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 2: he'll develop man. Fans, pump your breaks when a rookie does,

1201
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 2: I listen. I only play special teams all the way

1202
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 2: up until I made it start my last game of

1203
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:56,279
Speaker 2: the season. I was not ready to play middle linebacker.

1204
00:53:56,920 --> 00:54:01,480
Speaker 3: Early in that season was twenty two hundred tackle. No,

1205
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:02,920
Speaker 3: I may not have made it to that.

1206
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:07,200
Speaker 2: I just wasn't ready because of the volume of knowledge

1207
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:09,800
Speaker 2: that you have to play these was it when you

1208
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:13,880
Speaker 2: were a position player or every every down player. You

1209
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 2: got to know first second down responsibility, pass covering. I'm

1210
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 2: speaking from a defense tepoint. Office is even harder. I

1211
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:21,920
Speaker 2: was going to say, it's even harder for office a play.

1212
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:23,760
Speaker 4: I was just thinking about it, even just like basic

1213
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:26,239
Speaker 4: outside zone, like so in college, like, oh, you just

1214
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:27,719
Speaker 4: blocked the dead mant line of scrimmage and you just

1215
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 4: reach outside number here, It's like, is he a five

1216
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 4: is the A six The call changes is five six

1217
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:35,920
Speaker 4: nine changes? Where's the linebacker positioning? We got to make

1218
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:37,680
Speaker 4: a different call, Like the tackle is not gonna be

1219
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:39,640
Speaker 4: with you. You got to identify pressure. You got to

1220
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:42,040
Speaker 4: make a call for that. And so like this one play,

1221
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 4: which was the easiest play you ever ran in college,

1222
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:47,200
Speaker 4: it's like now it's like a dissertation in terms of

1223
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:48,919
Speaker 4: identifying coverages in front.

1224
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:53,280
Speaker 3: So even Uh as an offense guy receiver, oh my gosh.

1225
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:56,920
Speaker 2: Based on his route against man, might be the man

1226
00:54:57,080 --> 00:54:59,439
Speaker 2: office different than press man. I tell you the story

1227
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 2: of middlefield closed versus middlefield open. And he has to

1228
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:03,880
Speaker 2: do this on the flush.

1229
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:06,680
Speaker 4: So we were installing stick. It's a three step quick

1230
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:08,799
Speaker 4: game route. You know, some people call it zampz right

1231
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 4: on the back side of stick, you're in a thunder

1232
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 4: and so on the paper, johnavas eight on the paper's

1233
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:16,920
Speaker 4: drawn up as an eight yard hitch right. But if

1234
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:19,239
Speaker 4: it's free access, it becomes a five yard stop. If

1235
00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:21,280
Speaker 4: it's press man, it becomes an eight yard hitch running

1236
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:24,080
Speaker 4: out towards the sideline. If it's covered two outside release

1237
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:27,680
Speaker 4: hole shot And that's one route. And I was just like,

1238
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 4: this is day one this is the first play that

1239
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:32,800
Speaker 4: they give you, and they're like, and everybody has to

1240
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:34,760
Speaker 4: know that route because we can be in twelve personnel,

1241
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:36,400
Speaker 4: we can be in flank, you can be out there

1242
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:36,920
Speaker 4: by yourself.

1243
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 3: And I was just like, what about pressure?

1244
00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:42,719
Speaker 5: So then on the front side, the stick has to

1245
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:43,799
Speaker 5: know the hot rules, right.

1246
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:46,640
Speaker 4: So it's like, so here's this play that is like again,

1247
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:49,320
Speaker 4: it's like a throwaway install And it was one of

1248
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 4: the more complicated plays that I've ever had to learn.

1249
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:53,320
Speaker 4: And so don't even get me started about when you

1250
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:55,160
Speaker 4: go from like, hey, we got to draw on and

1251
00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:57,759
Speaker 4: if we get pressure, we're gonna can it to this meter.

1252
00:55:57,960 --> 00:55:59,800
Speaker 4: And so like people think, oh, you just come in,

1253
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:00,880
Speaker 4: I could be easy to be.

1254
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:03,680
Speaker 3: Spot play defense. Here's it.

1255
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:07,759
Speaker 2: So here's an example of a defensive call. It might

1256
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:15,480
Speaker 2: be under Pirate two under front, under front Pirate cover

1257
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:18,680
Speaker 2: two on the back end under Pirate fifty seven. So

1258
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:22,279
Speaker 2: under Pirate fifty seven. Actually that's a car versus a

1259
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:27,080
Speaker 2: slot we're gonna play. We'll play five versus base from

1260
00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:32,719
Speaker 2: two of its cover two cover two slot. It's cover two,

1261
00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:36,840
Speaker 2: but it's a different version of cover two. Now it's

1262
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:40,359
Speaker 2: a different animal of how you how you fit those

1263
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:43,720
Speaker 2: runs up. It keeps the corners from running over stuff

1264
00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:48,920
Speaker 2: like that. So, but defense are easy for defense. Three words.

1265
00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:57,279
Speaker 2: Everybody knows the responsibility hot cover, two, hot front rush

1266
00:56:57,320 --> 00:56:58,480
Speaker 2: the quarterback.

1267
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:00,880
Speaker 3: Smoke right.

1268
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:05,000
Speaker 5: Run for us offensively, line up and get out of

1269
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:05,680
Speaker 5: the quarterback.

1270
00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:07,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got twenty words.

1271
00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:11,400
Speaker 5: To know what to do.

1272
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:15,399
Speaker 1: Last one Bill seventh round pick hit Okay, he uh.

1273
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 1: He was essentially a part time player in the middle

1274
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 1: of the season. He still ended up with eight hundred

1275
00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:24,560
Speaker 1: yards and eight touchdowns. So he's got home run ability.

1276
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:28,680
Speaker 1: I think on a number of different levels, if some

1277
00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:31,960
Speaker 1: things get unlocked, which is I think on running the ball.

1278
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:33,080
Speaker 3: Waiting for your pitch.

1279
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:36,040
Speaker 1: Can they incorporate him in the passing game a little bit?

1280
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:38,840
Speaker 1: Do they trust him in protection where he becomes more

1281
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:42,040
Speaker 1: of an every down back. I think the sky's the

1282
00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:45,520
Speaker 1: limit for him. Look at those numbers in the role

1283
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:48,200
Speaker 1: that he played throughout the year, up and down where

1284
00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:51,640
Speaker 1: the sometimes the opportunities were extremely limited. Those are gaudy

1285
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:54,880
Speaker 1: numbers for somebody who was not the full time starting

1286
00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:55,440
Speaker 1: running back.

1287
00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:58,400
Speaker 4: And talk about a position that the jump from college

1288
00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:02,120
Speaker 4: to the NFL is really steep because of the protection rules.

1289
00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:04,360
Speaker 4: Like for him to come in and be that productive,

1290
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:06,360
Speaker 4: I think is a testament to a the coaching staff

1291
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:08,880
Speaker 4: and how they deployed him, but also his maturation over

1292
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:10,800
Speaker 4: the year. So I think obviously the physical tools are there,

1293
00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:12,919
Speaker 4: but like Fletcher was talking about with the defensive calls,

1294
00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:15,640
Speaker 4: I was talking about the offensive calls, like protection for

1295
00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:18,000
Speaker 4: the back in the NFL is a nightmare.

1296
00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:19,200
Speaker 5: So he's got a lot.

1297
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:21,120
Speaker 4: There's a steep learning curve there for him on that

1298
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:22,800
Speaker 4: in that front, and I think we saw him get better.

1299
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:24,720
Speaker 4: I think he can still continue to get better. And

1300
00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:28,040
Speaker 4: I think the understanding fronts, understanding pressures on first and

1301
00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 4: second down only help him as a runner two. So

1302
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:32,160
Speaker 4: but I think the talent is there. And for a

1303
00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:34,600
Speaker 4: guy in the seventh round, Fletch like, I just think,

1304
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Speaker 4: like there's five We just talked about five picks, and

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00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 4: it's very rare that I'm excited about all five guys,

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00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:42,240
Speaker 4: and so for us to be kind of juiced about

1307
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:43,720
Speaker 4: those five guys feel like a pretty good deal.

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00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:47,640
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, man, it's it takes a minute and the

1309
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:52,120
Speaker 2: pass pro being able to block those blitz and linebackers,

1310
00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:56,280
Speaker 2: that's the thing. Terrible if you if it takes guys.

1311
00:58:56,600 --> 00:58:59,240
Speaker 2: It's ten year vets that don't know how to block

1312
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:01,680
Speaker 2: these blits and lines. You gotta be willing to put

1313
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:04,440
Speaker 2: your face in the fire, so to speak. Sometimes you

1314
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:06,800
Speaker 2: got to take a charge. Sometimes you gotta you gotta

1315
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:09,200
Speaker 2: just get enough of them just to get that quarterback,

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00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:14,800
Speaker 2: just enough time to get that ball off. McNichols has

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00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:20,040
Speaker 2: made McNichols was excellent at it. Uh Eckler excellent at it.

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00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:25,000
Speaker 2: And Bill he talked DQ was talking about Watch watch

1319
00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:28,400
Speaker 2: Connolly from the first game against Dallas. In the second game,

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00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:32,360
Speaker 2: watch Bill pass pro when he when he had the

1321
00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:36,680
Speaker 2: opportunity to pass pro early until later on huge improvements.

1322
00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:38,840
Speaker 1: Since you mentioned McNichols, I got to bring him up

1323
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:41,160
Speaker 1: because one of my favorite moments from the season finale

1324
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:44,760
Speaker 1: was him realizing that they were going to be in

1325
00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:48,280
Speaker 1: an illegal formation because Colson did not line up where

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00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:50,560
Speaker 1: he was supposed to, and right before they had to

1327
00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:52,480
Speaker 1: get a snap offf he just ran over and covered

1328
00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:54,840
Speaker 1: the tackle and we saw this happen in real time.

1329
00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:59,080
Speaker 1: This guy had an underrated great year for them.

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00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:04,040
Speaker 2: So you niggah, So you know what happens if he

1331
01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:07,240
Speaker 2: didn't do that, If he didn't if he didn't get

1332
01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:12,040
Speaker 2: on the line up properly, we don't get those three

1333
01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:16,880
Speaker 2: points at halftime because we had no more time outs. Yep,

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01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:19,520
Speaker 2: it was five seconds when we clocked it. It's a

1335
01:00:19,640 --> 01:00:22,520
Speaker 2: ten second runoff. With that penalty, we don't cout the

1336
01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:25,920
Speaker 2: we we don't have any time ouse left. So that

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01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:30,240
Speaker 2: veteran doing what he did, yep, really got us three

1338
01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:33,160
Speaker 2: points and those three points were big in that game yesterday.

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01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:34,920
Speaker 4: Like I always like to think, oh I would have

1340
01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:36,360
Speaker 4: thought of that, but like for him as a back

1341
01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:38,680
Speaker 4: to be like, oh, we're ineligible like now.

1342
01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:42,200
Speaker 2: The only other guy that I saw that would do

1343
01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:45,640
Speaker 2: something that did something similar to that was Marshall Fulk.

1344
01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:52,640
Speaker 2: We're playing the Tennessee Titans, and Marshall one of the

1345
01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:54,680
Speaker 2: smartest football players I've ever been around. We had to

1346
01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:57,360
Speaker 2: every position probably right we had. We're in a two

1347
01:00:57,440 --> 01:01:02,480
Speaker 2: minute situation, we're trailing the Titans. Isaac came catches the pass.

1348
01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:06,520
Speaker 2: He gets drilled. I'm talking about drill. He can't even

1349
01:01:06,560 --> 01:01:10,560
Speaker 2: get up, but we have no timeouts. We got to

1350
01:01:10,600 --> 01:01:12,800
Speaker 2: clock it because we get the first down, but he

1351
01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:14,960
Speaker 2: has to get up. He's laying on the ground. Marshall

1352
01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:18,280
Speaker 2: picks him up just so Oz can be in on

1353
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:21,320
Speaker 2: a lot of scrimmage and information so we could clock

1354
01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:23,520
Speaker 2: it and didn't get him off the football field.

1355
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:24,000
Speaker 5: Wow.

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01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:27,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, special special.

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01:01:27,560 --> 01:01:30,960
Speaker 1: Nick Nichols, Jeremy Reeves underrated players this year that really really,

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01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:32,040
Speaker 1: really great seasons.

1359
01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:35,800
Speaker 3: So the Reeves interception I talked to him about.

1360
01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:37,760
Speaker 5: So it was gonna cover six to me when I

1361
01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:38,600
Speaker 5: watched it last nime.

1362
01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:40,360
Speaker 3: Bang it. But it wasn't.

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01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:41,120
Speaker 5: It wasn't.

1364
01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:42,000
Speaker 3: It was covered three.

1365
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:43,400
Speaker 4: No, it was not.

1366
01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:45,920
Speaker 3: I asked him. Remember we talked.

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01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:47,520
Speaker 2: When I asked him, I was like, dude, how did

1368
01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:50,560
Speaker 2: you make that pick? Because I remember I was talking about, Hey,

1369
01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:54,040
Speaker 2: Paton against this guy? It was covered three and then

1370
01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:57,920
Speaker 2: thee we weren't getting great replays up in the ump

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01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:01,360
Speaker 2: in the booths on the TV copies. I looked at

1372
01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:04,240
Speaker 2: it again, even after he told me it was cover three.

1373
01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:06,240
Speaker 2: I said, what youre You went from the post? He said,

1374
01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:10,640
Speaker 2: I knew what the strong side was, and I left

1375
01:02:10,680 --> 01:02:13,640
Speaker 2: the middle of the field and robbed that.

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01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:14,880
Speaker 3: Uh that post.

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Speaker 2: If you look at it now, you got that information

1378
01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:21,680
Speaker 2: because the safety opposite him stayed so high. It looks

1379
01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:24,840
Speaker 2: still like quarters. It looks quarters over there, but that

1380
01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:27,200
Speaker 2: was cover three. You look at the rest of the guys,

1381
01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:31,560
Speaker 2: especially Bobby had thinking Frankie and and uh another guy

1382
01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:35,000
Speaker 2: came backside corner or Nick or whatever, and it was

1383
01:02:35,120 --> 01:02:35,640
Speaker 2: covered three.

1384
01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:38,400
Speaker 3: And I was like, that was a phenomenal free crazy

1385
01:02:39,080 --> 01:02:39,480
Speaker 3: that's true.

1386
01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:40,280
Speaker 5: That's a crazy play.

1387
01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:40,520
Speaker 2: Oh.

1388
01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:42,760
Speaker 5: I literally I asked himself.

1389
01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:45,320
Speaker 3: I asked him, I said was. I asked him, was

1390
01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:47,920
Speaker 3: it was it quarters? Was it quarters? He said, Nah,

1391
01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:50,560
Speaker 3: that was covered three? And I lived it last night.

1392
01:02:50,680 --> 01:02:54,000
Speaker 2: I had to literally before I went, I had to

1393
01:02:54,080 --> 01:02:55,880
Speaker 2: look at that, and I'm still looking at it. This

1394
01:02:56,080 --> 01:02:57,120
Speaker 2: looks like corners.

1395
01:02:58,720 --> 01:02:59,880
Speaker 3: A lot of great moments to twenty three.

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01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:02,680
Speaker 1: Let's end on one that was a really great one

1397
01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:05,360
Speaker 1: that helped them carry a lead into the half yesterday.

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01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:08,480
Speaker 1: It'll win over Philadelphia. As always, it's been a pleasure

1399
01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:10,920
Speaker 1: working with you guys this year. Can't wait till next summer.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully different results in the twenty twenty sixth seasons. So

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01:03:13,840 --> 01:03:15,600
Speaker 1: that'll do it for this edition of the Booth Review,

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