WEBVTT - Dolphins Positional Value Draft with Danny Kelly and Day 2 Film Breakdowns 0:00:00.320 --> 0:00:10.039 Factors, Patrick Draw What a win for this Miami Dolphin tea? Wow? 0:00:11.640 --> 0:00:15.960 What is up? Dolphin? Welcome to the Drivetime Podcast, part 0:00:16.200 --> 0:00:20.480 of the Miami Dolphins Official podcast new covering your Miami 0:00:20.560 --> 0:00:24.000 Dolphins each and every day. How's it going, everybody? I 0:00:24.079 --> 0:00:26.720 am your host, Travis Wingfield, and I am here to 0:00:26.800 --> 0:00:30.080 bring you your daily dose of Miami Dolphins football. And 0:00:30.120 --> 0:00:33.600 on today's show, we continue the Rookie Film Study series 0:00:33.760 --> 0:00:36.040 with the first look at the tape of Robert Hunt, 0:00:36.280 --> 0:00:39.960 ray Kwon Davis, and Brandon Jones. Plus Danny Clark of 0:00:40.000 --> 0:00:42.920 The Ringer has the Dolphins as a big draft winner 0:00:43.000 --> 0:00:45.559 over the weekend. Will welcome him in to tell us 0:00:45.560 --> 0:00:48.520 why all of that and more on this Wednesday, April 0:00:49.000 --> 0:00:55.760 nine edition of the Drivetime Podcast Dolphins. And We're gonna 0:00:55.800 --> 0:00:58.120 first start this thing off by jumping into an interview 0:00:58.160 --> 0:01:00.720 that I had with Danny Clark of a Ringer. Let's 0:01:00.720 --> 0:01:03.280 not waste any more time and get right to that interview. 0:01:03.680 --> 0:01:06.200 And joining me now on the Drive Time Podcast is 0:01:06.280 --> 0:01:08.959 Danny Kelly. He's a staff writer at The Ringer, co 0:01:09.160 --> 0:01:13.080 host of the Dantasy podcast Dannasy Football podcast rather, an 0:01:13.120 --> 0:01:15.800 author of The Ringer, NFL draft guy, Danny, welcome in. 0:01:16.400 --> 0:01:18.200 Thank you so much for having me on. You mentioned 0:01:18.240 --> 0:01:20.560 you're from my neck of the woods on the Pacific Northwest. 0:01:20.600 --> 0:01:23.200 I know you're right for the ringer, but being a 0:01:23.200 --> 0:01:26.199 a website writer, a person that can work remotely, has 0:01:26.240 --> 0:01:29.000 the whole shutdown and the quarantine change the way your 0:01:29.080 --> 0:01:31.800 job works. Or how's that been going? Um? I mean 0:01:32.319 --> 0:01:34.560 I had a head start on kind of the what 0:01:34.640 --> 0:01:36.560 it's like to work from home and how to be 0:01:36.680 --> 0:01:39.000 disciplined and all that from working from a home office, 0:01:39.040 --> 0:01:42.120 but um, it's definitely changed, like the schedule of everything. 0:01:42.319 --> 0:01:45.640 I have a ten month old son and he requires 0:01:46.040 --> 0:01:49.480 around the clock attention, so we've had to kind of 0:01:49.520 --> 0:01:51.360 like figure out a way to take care of him 0:01:51.400 --> 0:01:54.920 and without having any childcare. So that's that's been the 0:01:54.920 --> 0:01:56.800 main challenge. It's also been kind of fun to get 0:01:56.840 --> 0:01:59.640 to spend so much time with him. But yeah, um, 0:01:59.680 --> 0:02:02.280 over all, you know, I'm pretty used to working for mom, 0:02:02.360 --> 0:02:04.880 so it hasn't been a massive, massive shift. Yeah, it's 0:02:04.920 --> 0:02:07.000 the same story for me and my my wife is 0:02:07.040 --> 0:02:09.280 actually gonna be giving birth any day now, and so 0:02:09.360 --> 0:02:11.600 we're kind of trying to figure all this. Thank you, 0:02:11.800 --> 0:02:13.799 We're trying to figure out how that's all gonna work, 0:02:13.840 --> 0:02:16.320 and just trying to get as much draft content out 0:02:16.320 --> 0:02:18.560 as we can before that happens, so I can take 0:02:18.560 --> 0:02:20.600 a few days off and be dad for a few days. 0:02:20.639 --> 0:02:22.639 So that's what you're here for, Danny, And I want 0:02:22.639 --> 0:02:25.639 to ask you because every year you author your Draft Awards, 0:02:25.639 --> 0:02:27.960 and first I want to comment on the format and 0:02:28.000 --> 0:02:30.160 the language and the style of all this because it's 0:02:30.200 --> 0:02:33.040 such a fun read every year, and especially when your 0:02:33.080 --> 0:02:35.639 team is in the winner's category, like the Dolphins are. 0:02:35.680 --> 0:02:37.600 We'll get to that in just one second before we 0:02:37.639 --> 0:02:39.560 dive in. I'm curious to ask you how do you 0:02:39.600 --> 0:02:42.920 outline this because all these storylines are so fascinating to me, 0:02:43.080 --> 0:02:45.680 Like the storyline behind the draft is almost more intriguing 0:02:45.720 --> 0:02:48.000 than the actual draft itself. And I have to imagine 0:02:48.000 --> 0:02:50.240 that you're watching the draft with an eye towards either 0:02:50.440 --> 0:02:52.360 the really good you can point out or the really 0:02:52.360 --> 0:02:54.799 bad that you can point out. Right, Yeah, I mean 0:02:55.280 --> 0:02:56.919 it's you have to be a little bit creative with 0:02:56.960 --> 0:02:58.960 the awards. And the nice part about doing awards and 0:02:59.320 --> 0:03:02.840 or superatives, which we do sometimes too, is um, you 0:03:02.880 --> 0:03:06.360 can kind of make up stuff like all these awards 0:03:06.360 --> 0:03:08.200 are kind of silly, like how to support your Aging 0:03:08.280 --> 0:03:11.400 Quarterback Award was one of them for the Colts and Buccaneers. Um, 0:03:12.120 --> 0:03:14.040 it's it's just kind of an idea of like laying 0:03:14.040 --> 0:03:17.200 out the different storylines that developed over the draft, things 0:03:17.240 --> 0:03:20.280 that I think are the most important takeaways, I guess, 0:03:20.320 --> 0:03:22.200 and then you can kind of just make up categories. 0:03:22.200 --> 0:03:24.359 So it is it's kind of an easy way to 0:03:24.919 --> 0:03:28.120 you don't have to pigeonhole teams into like best worst 0:03:28.280 --> 0:03:31.280 or whatever. Um. You can kind of have a little 0:03:31.280 --> 0:03:33.280 more nuance and things like that. So it's it's kind 0:03:33.280 --> 0:03:34.680 of fun to do it that way. And every year 0:03:34.680 --> 0:03:38.560 I have slightly different awards. You know, some of them 0:03:38.560 --> 0:03:41.560 are repeats, but for the most part I try and 0:03:41.600 --> 0:03:43.000 kind of just make up new ones as we go. 0:03:43.240 --> 0:03:45.040 You can find a way, even when you're critical, do 0:03:45.120 --> 0:03:47.720 the compliment sandwich where you start with maybe some constructive 0:03:47.800 --> 0:03:50.200 criticism and then come back around the back end and 0:03:50.280 --> 0:03:52.320 uh and get the and get the compliment back in there. 0:03:52.360 --> 0:03:55.520 But on the topic of the good awards, the Dolphins 0:03:55.560 --> 0:03:59.280 get your the Understanding Positional Value Award, And first off, 0:03:59.360 --> 0:04:01.600 let me just go head and give you applause right there, sir, 0:04:01.680 --> 0:04:04.960 because I just love that comment alone. Modern day football 0:04:05.080 --> 0:04:08.520 coming into Miami finding ways to supplement floors is defense, 0:04:08.560 --> 0:04:11.400 helping build the line around the quarterback and really putting 0:04:11.400 --> 0:04:14.560 an emphasis on stopping the past in today's NFL. And 0:04:14.600 --> 0:04:17.839 you mentioned the premium positions with quarterback, offensive line, and 0:04:17.960 --> 0:04:20.640 corner in those first five picks. Walk us through your 0:04:20.640 --> 0:04:23.840 thinking there if you can. Yeah, So, you know, obviously 0:04:23.880 --> 0:04:27.719 the Dolphins had to give up some pretty valuable pieces 0:04:27.760 --> 0:04:29.920 to kind of build all the draft capital that they 0:04:29.920 --> 0:04:33.200 had this season. Um, and you hope that they use 0:04:33.279 --> 0:04:36.360 it really smartly and on the most important, I guess, 0:04:36.360 --> 0:04:39.640 foundational pieces for a franchise in the long term. Then 0:04:40.000 --> 0:04:42.200 you kind of see like how the NFL tends to 0:04:42.360 --> 0:04:45.320 value these guys. Box safeties are generally one of the 0:04:45.360 --> 0:04:48.400 more lower, lower paid defensive positions in the NFL. That 0:04:48.480 --> 0:04:50.760 might change kind of over the years as guys become 0:04:50.839 --> 0:04:54.160 more versatile against the past. So it was really good 0:04:54.200 --> 0:04:57.919 to see the Dolphins go out and kind of recognize that, 0:04:58.000 --> 0:05:00.800 like you were, offensive tackle one of the highest paid 0:05:00.800 --> 0:05:03.880 positions in the NFL. UM. Robert Hunt and Austin Jackson, 0:05:03.920 --> 0:05:06.839 I think both have really high ceilings. I really, um, 0:05:06.920 --> 0:05:08.200 you know, I think that was a really smart way 0:05:08.240 --> 0:05:09.880 to do it. Build from the trenches. You don't have 0:05:10.000 --> 0:05:13.200 to have, you know, an elite running back, Um, if 0:05:13.240 --> 0:05:15.760 you're rebuilding, and even if they're even if they're like 0:05:15.880 --> 0:05:17.680 going to surprise us and maybe not, they're not a 0:05:17.720 --> 0:05:22.080 rebuilding team anymore. Um, having that elite offensive line or 0:05:22.080 --> 0:05:24.239 at least a very strong offensive line, you can pretty 0:05:24.279 --> 0:05:27.120 much plug any running back in back there and you'll 0:05:27.160 --> 0:05:30.640 you'll get quality, you know, production from him. So to me, 0:05:30.680 --> 0:05:32.680 that made a lot of sense. I love the fact 0:05:32.720 --> 0:05:35.160 that they built a strength on a strength by grabbing 0:05:35.440 --> 0:05:37.640 the cornerback. And I'm not even gonna try to stay 0:05:37.640 --> 0:05:39.000 his name. Do you know how to say his name? Yeah, 0:05:39.080 --> 0:05:43.200 well we'll call him Igbo, but it's Noah ig Yeah. 0:05:43.240 --> 0:05:45.240 I was practicing before the pot and then I freaked 0:05:45.240 --> 0:05:47.240 out just now trying to I was going to be 0:05:47.240 --> 0:05:49.680 able to say it, But um, yeah, iig Bow. I 0:05:49.720 --> 0:05:53.640 like him. He's a very feisty, you know, high upside guy. Man. 0:05:53.680 --> 0:05:56.599 There's so much talent in that secondary right now. You 0:05:56.720 --> 0:06:00.120 build the past defense first and worry about the ask 0:06:00.200 --> 0:06:03.000 rush a little bit later. If you have lockdown type corners. 0:06:03.040 --> 0:06:04.720 They can do a lot of things for your defense 0:06:05.160 --> 0:06:08.200 and make it very very difficult on the quarterback. So anyways, 0:06:08.200 --> 0:06:10.000 I thought that the way that they went about it, 0:06:10.600 --> 0:06:14.120 and obviously to we can't forget about tackle tumblefla another 0:06:14.760 --> 0:06:19.479 tough tough to uh pronounce last name. Um he You know, 0:06:19.520 --> 0:06:21.880 I thought that was a great pick for them. I 0:06:21.960 --> 0:06:24.880 was really really hoping that would be the pick. Ultimately, 0:06:24.920 --> 0:06:28.080 I think if you're I think fortunate favors the bold, 0:06:28.120 --> 0:06:31.080 especially at the quarterback position. His ceiling is so much higher. 0:06:31.120 --> 0:06:32.360 I just think it makes so much more sense to 0:06:32.360 --> 0:06:34.560 grab him. So I thought that was a really good 0:06:34.560 --> 0:06:39.279 pick for them. Very exciting, potential franchise turning around type player. 0:06:39.440 --> 0:06:42.360 So all in all, you know, I think you can 0:06:42.400 --> 0:06:44.120 look at what the Dolphins gave up and what they 0:06:44.200 --> 0:06:46.839 got in this first round, and it's really really strong return. 0:06:46.920 --> 0:06:49.159 I think of what they you know, the picks that 0:06:49.160 --> 0:06:52.120 they were to a mass for the first round. Yeah, 0:06:52.160 --> 0:06:54.120 you mentioned the way they built that defense sort of 0:06:54.120 --> 0:06:56.320 back to front. I really compliment what they did in 0:06:56.400 --> 0:06:58.640 free agency with Flora's going out and getting guys that 0:06:58.680 --> 0:07:01.839 really suit his defense and a Hyle van Noy shack Lawson. 0:07:01.880 --> 0:07:05.040 You've got Emmanuel Ogball down there, Land and Roberts, Commo, 0:07:05.040 --> 0:07:07.320 grouge Hill, all these players that can do multiple things 0:07:07.640 --> 0:07:09.960 in that front seven. But you also mentioned the running 0:07:10.000 --> 0:07:12.880 back position, how you maybe can plug in guys that 0:07:12.960 --> 0:07:15.440 come later in the draft, maybe even undrafted guys that 0:07:15.520 --> 0:07:18.840 can run behind the solid scheme, behind a solid offensive line. 0:07:19.040 --> 0:07:21.240 And that's what we saw with the new Dolphins running 0:07:21.240 --> 0:07:24.600 back and Matt Brita in San Francisco. Because that backfield, 0:07:24.720 --> 0:07:27.400 as good as it was under Kyle Shanahan going into 0:07:27.440 --> 0:07:29.840 the season, I don't think anybody would say that, you know, 0:07:29.960 --> 0:07:34.280 Matt Brita or tell Uh Telvin, Tevin Coleman or Mara 0:07:34.320 --> 0:07:37.000 he most at our superstar running backs. They produced like it, 0:07:37.040 --> 0:07:39.760 but they didn't have the name recognition going into the season. 0:07:39.920 --> 0:07:42.920 And in the article you praise Miami for the resisting 0:07:42.920 --> 0:07:45.320 that urge to go tailback early on. Do you think 0:07:45.360 --> 0:07:47.960 they really got it right with that Brita trade? Yeah? 0:07:47.960 --> 0:07:50.640 I do. I think. You know, like I mentioned, if 0:07:50.640 --> 0:07:52.640 you have a good run scheme, you have a good 0:07:53.120 --> 0:07:56.400 um offensive line, you're gonna get production from the running 0:07:56.400 --> 0:07:59.040 man group. Obviously, it's nice, it's it's almost like a 0:07:59.120 --> 0:08:01.160 lecture to have a really really good running back. But 0:08:01.280 --> 0:08:03.960 it is nice, but at the end of the day, 0:08:04.440 --> 0:08:07.840 it's not going to change the overall you know, like 0:08:08.040 --> 0:08:10.600 identity of your offense. It's not one of those players. 0:08:10.600 --> 0:08:12.480 It's not one of those positions really that can have 0:08:12.560 --> 0:08:14.920 the biggest impact. So um, to me, it made a 0:08:14.960 --> 0:08:17.160 lot of sense. You know, I think it was a 0:08:17.160 --> 0:08:19.640 fifth round pick right that they swapped for it. Yeah, 0:08:21.360 --> 0:08:25.040 three overall. Yeah, And at that point those picks are 0:08:26.080 --> 0:08:28.720 those picks are dart throws. So that's not a big 0:08:28.800 --> 0:08:30.840 price to pay for a guy who's proven in the 0:08:30.920 --> 0:08:33.680 NFL that he can be effective. He's you know, very 0:08:33.760 --> 0:08:36.959 very fast, very very explosive, you know. Putting him in 0:08:37.200 --> 0:08:39.640 kind of like a committee with you know, maybe Jordan 0:08:39.679 --> 0:08:41.760 Howard whoever ends up kind of coming out on top 0:08:42.160 --> 0:08:44.280 in that group, it just makes a lot of sense. 0:08:44.360 --> 0:08:47.640 Gives you that speed element, and it's it's such a 0:08:48.280 --> 0:08:50.600 such a good bargain, I think to do it that 0:08:50.679 --> 0:08:53.680 way rather than kind of investing in a luxury pick earlier. 0:08:54.120 --> 0:08:56.600 It just I just think that that line of thinking 0:08:56.720 --> 0:08:58.560 made a lot of sense. And you mentioned in the 0:08:58.640 --> 0:09:01.040 article about taking possession and maybe don't have as much 0:09:01.080 --> 0:09:03.520 impact on the overall football team early in the draft. 0:09:03.640 --> 0:09:05.840 And I'm curious to get your thought because you know, 0:09:05.960 --> 0:09:09.440 this positional value idea I think is somewhat commonplace, but 0:09:09.480 --> 0:09:12.000 not across the league entirely. Do you think that this 0:09:12.040 --> 0:09:14.800 type of thinking ever will become commonplace? And if not, 0:09:15.120 --> 0:09:18.640 why are teams still resistant to it. I feel like 0:09:18.679 --> 0:09:23.600 it's getting it's it's slowly glacially changing. And the reason 0:09:23.640 --> 0:09:26.040 they say that is, yeah, there was a first round 0:09:26.080 --> 0:09:29.440 running back, um Clyde Edwards layer snuck into the first round, 0:09:29.480 --> 0:09:32.679 but he is so good in the passing game that 0:09:32.840 --> 0:09:36.160 I think that is a big factor to take into account, Like, 0:09:36.880 --> 0:09:39.160 you know, your positions that you want to take early 0:09:39.240 --> 0:09:41.640 in the draft help you're passing and help you defend 0:09:41.640 --> 0:09:48.240 the past, and you know, grabbing a guy. So the 0:09:48.240 --> 0:09:50.280 other thing that I kind of that comes to mind here, 0:09:50.480 --> 0:09:52.760 And I don't know if this is just an indictment 0:09:52.880 --> 0:09:55.920 of the guy, like an indiatment of him as a prospect, 0:09:55.960 --> 0:09:57.280 but to me, if you look at a guy like 0:09:57.360 --> 0:10:00.839 Jonathan Taylor, he is one of the best running back 0:10:00.880 --> 0:10:04.320 prospects in years. Like he's on the level I think 0:10:04.400 --> 0:10:08.959 as a prospect in terms of his speed, size, um, production, everything, 0:10:09.040 --> 0:10:12.680 like Ezekiel Elliott type player, Leonard Fournette type player. You look, 0:10:12.760 --> 0:10:15.160 not even a few years ago, those guys are going 0:10:15.160 --> 0:10:17.800 in the top five and he fell into the second round. 0:10:18.320 --> 0:10:21.760 So is that an indication that the NFL is kind 0:10:21.760 --> 0:10:25.360 of like changing its opinion and changing its value system 0:10:25.400 --> 0:10:27.280 on the running back position, or is it just mean 0:10:27.360 --> 0:10:30.280 maybe they didn't think that Jonathan Taylor was as good 0:10:30.280 --> 0:10:32.280 of a prospect. I can't really tell you. I think 0:10:32.280 --> 0:10:35.680 he's a very very good prospect um. But I thought 0:10:35.679 --> 0:10:37.920 that was very fascinating. I thought that maybe that signaled 0:10:38.000 --> 0:10:41.040 kind of a changing of the guard, changing of philosophy. 0:10:41.280 --> 0:10:44.079 We've seen some some running backs over the last couple 0:10:44.080 --> 0:10:45.960 of years, a couple of seasons not get the types 0:10:46.000 --> 0:10:49.280 of deals that they wanted to get. Melvin Gordon comes 0:10:49.320 --> 0:10:51.960 to mind. You know, he just didn't. He didn't his 0:10:52.000 --> 0:10:53.920 holdout didn't work. He didn't get the deal he wanted. 0:10:54.240 --> 0:10:56.280 It looks like the Jags are trying to change trade 0:10:56.360 --> 0:10:59.120 Leonard four Nett overall. Maybe that maybe that that thinking 0:10:59.160 --> 0:11:01.120 is shifting a little bit. Yeah, you mentioned some of 0:11:01.120 --> 0:11:03.920 those top five picks like Zeke, like larn Fournett, Yeah, 0:11:04.000 --> 0:11:06.360 Christian McCaffrey, who I want to say it was eighth overall. 0:11:06.400 --> 0:11:08.800 But the common thread there for him was that you 0:11:08.840 --> 0:11:11.000 mentioned with Clyde Edwards Hilary the first round pick, that 0:11:11.040 --> 0:11:13.559 those guys are really big contributors in the passing game. 0:11:13.640 --> 0:11:15.320 So it does seem like there's a little more credence 0:11:15.360 --> 0:11:19.000 going towards the aerial assault more so than the ground game. 0:11:19.480 --> 0:11:21.800 You write a draft guide every year, Danny talking about 0:11:21.840 --> 0:11:23.400 some of these players, and you mentioned to me on 0:11:23.400 --> 0:11:25.440 an email chain that we can get into the weeds 0:11:25.600 --> 0:11:27.200 on what some of these guys can do. Are there 0:11:27.200 --> 0:11:29.120 any other player breakdowns you want to give us here 0:11:29.160 --> 0:11:31.640 before I let you go? Um, yeah, there's a couple 0:11:31.679 --> 0:11:34.360 that I thought were very interesting. Um. I think Hunt 0:11:34.559 --> 0:11:37.520 is he came into the class very kind of under 0:11:37.559 --> 0:11:40.280 the radar because he played for a smaller school. Um. 0:11:40.320 --> 0:11:42.560 I think he's he's very interesting, fun player to watch 0:11:42.559 --> 0:11:48.120 on tape. I think he brings guards, guard end, tackle versatility, 0:11:48.200 --> 0:11:50.520 so that's very interesting. I think the ray Kawon Davis 0:11:50.720 --> 0:11:53.800 pick out of Alabama is an intriguing one. He is, 0:11:54.400 --> 0:11:56.120 you know, kind of going along Clow. We're just saying 0:11:56.160 --> 0:11:58.000 I think he's a first round talent that fell out 0:11:58.000 --> 0:11:59.520 of the first round. You know, early on in his 0:11:59.600 --> 0:12:02.400 career he started getting talked about it as a first 0:12:02.440 --> 0:12:04.720 round for prospect because he had a very strong season 0:12:04.720 --> 0:12:07.680 where he was like affecting the past, you know, pushing 0:12:07.720 --> 0:12:09.520 the pocket all that. His stats kind of fell off 0:12:09.520 --> 0:12:11.079 over the last two seasons and that kind of like 0:12:11.160 --> 0:12:14.439 hurt his stock. But um, if he can unlock that 0:12:14.480 --> 0:12:18.200 pass rush potential, I mean, he's got incredible length, very 0:12:18.440 --> 0:12:22.000 like unreal size, Like he's one of the he's gonna 0:12:22.000 --> 0:12:23.559 be like one of the biggest interior defenders in the 0:12:23.640 --> 0:12:26.640 NFL like day one. So he's just really really intriguing. 0:12:26.640 --> 0:12:29.400 But if he can unlock that pass rush, um, have 0:12:29.559 --> 0:12:31.680 that three down skill set, this is gonna end up 0:12:31.679 --> 0:12:33.959 looking like a massive, massive steel And that's that's a 0:12:34.080 --> 0:12:36.920 that's an if. Obviously, that's not something that you can 0:12:37.000 --> 0:12:40.320 necessarily project, but I think that is exactly the range 0:12:40.320 --> 0:12:43.080 you want to take a player like that, where, um, 0:12:43.120 --> 0:12:45.240 you know, you can maybe coach him up, get him 0:12:45.240 --> 0:12:48.240 some more of a bigger repertoire moves, and you could 0:12:48.240 --> 0:12:50.160 potentially have him just being a game record from the 0:12:50.160 --> 0:12:52.680 inside UM. I thought that the Curtis Weaver pick was 0:12:52.720 --> 0:12:55.360 really smart too. He he was a guy who fell um. 0:12:55.360 --> 0:12:57.560 But it's pretty hard to ignore honestly, the production and 0:12:57.600 --> 0:12:59.640 like I was mentioning earlier, these fifth around picks are 0:12:59.679 --> 0:13:02.040 just dark throws, and so grabbing a guy with that 0:13:02.120 --> 0:13:05.559 kind of production, UM, that profile, that skill as a 0:13:05.600 --> 0:13:07.760 pass rusher UM makes a lot of sense to me. 0:13:07.800 --> 0:13:09.040 I think he could be the type of guy that 0:13:09.080 --> 0:13:11.199 you could have in the rotation early on if you 0:13:11.240 --> 0:13:13.439 could use him as a subject like a sub package 0:13:13.960 --> 0:13:17.199 pass rusher UM, where he's just like lining up and 0:13:17.640 --> 0:13:19.520 going forward. I think that makes a lot of sense. 0:13:19.520 --> 0:13:21.720 So he was another interesting pick late in the late 0:13:21.720 --> 0:13:23.400 in the draft that I think could have kind of 0:13:23.400 --> 0:13:25.920 an early impact. I found it really intriguing that Chris 0:13:26.040 --> 0:13:28.800 Greer got three players in the fifth round and Jason Strowbridge, 0:13:28.800 --> 0:13:31.520 Curtis Weaver, and Matt Breeder through the trade and that 0:13:31.559 --> 0:13:33.400 has just kind of been the sweet spot for those 0:13:33.400 --> 0:13:35.840 franchise for such a long time, going all the way 0:13:35.840 --> 0:13:38.040 back to Rashaw Jones in two thousand and ten, and 0:13:38.040 --> 0:13:40.959 the fifth round you get ja Agi, Bobby McCain, Tony 0:13:41.000 --> 0:13:43.400 Lippet all in the same fifth round. All those guys 0:13:43.440 --> 0:13:47.000 contributed the next season, Devon Gage Shaw very recently and 0:13:47.080 --> 0:13:50.040 now with Strowbridge, Weaver and Matt Breeda. You mentioned ray 0:13:50.120 --> 0:13:52.679 Kwon Davis. There was a great shot of the draft 0:13:53.000 --> 0:13:56.439 feed from ESPN NFL Network where Brian Flores is at 0:13:56.480 --> 0:13:58.400 his desk and he's showing him how he can lock 0:13:58.480 --> 0:14:01.360 out and throw guys. As you can tell, that's exactly 0:14:01.400 --> 0:14:03.360 what ray Kuan Davis does. When I watch him play, 0:14:03.600 --> 0:14:06.120 it reminds me of Calias Campbell Man because he just 0:14:06.200 --> 0:14:09.840 towers over these other guys who were also huge human beings, 0:14:10.000 --> 0:14:12.080 and he towers over a man. It's it's fun to watch, 0:14:12.120 --> 0:14:14.520 but that's that's great, Danny. We appreciate it. We appreciate 0:14:14.520 --> 0:14:16.760 your time. The article is up on The Ringer. It's 0:14:16.800 --> 0:14:20.440 the NFL Draft Awards by Danny Kelly of The Ringer, 0:14:20.520 --> 0:14:23.280 co host of the Dannasy Podcast, and you can find 0:14:23.280 --> 0:14:26.440 his NFL Draft guide on the Ringer dot com as 0:14:26.480 --> 0:14:29.600 well and at Danny B. Kelly on Twitter. Danny, thank 0:14:29.640 --> 0:14:32.200 you for joining Drivetime Man. Absolutely, thanks so much for 0:14:32.200 --> 0:14:34.760 having me on and so away he goes. Go ahead 0:14:34.800 --> 0:14:37.080 and check out that article on The Ringer. Before we 0:14:37.160 --> 0:14:38.840 check out here today, I want to go over some 0:14:38.880 --> 0:14:42.040 notes I wrote down on the Dolphins three Day two 0:14:42.040 --> 0:14:45.400 picks Robert Hunt, Ray Kwon Davis, and Brandon Jones because 0:14:45.400 --> 0:14:47.440 I had a chance to watch all their reps over 0:14:47.440 --> 0:14:49.880 the last season, and just start here with the thirty 0:14:49.960 --> 0:14:52.840 nights pick in the draft, the massive offensive lineman from 0:14:52.960 --> 0:14:56.760 Louisiana Lafayette, Robert Hunt, and to pick the Dolphins get here. 0:14:56.880 --> 0:14:59.760 Here's a staff from Trey Wingo on ESPN during the draft. 0:15:00.000 --> 0:15:03.680 For the last two seasons, Robert Hunt allowed just five pressures, 0:15:03.680 --> 0:15:07.680 not sacks or quarterback hits. Five pressures on five hundred 0:15:07.680 --> 0:15:10.720 and seventy four pass blocking reps and had no blown 0:15:10.760 --> 0:15:15.480 blocking assignments on two hundred sixty sixteen running play assignments. 0:15:15.520 --> 0:15:19.200 That's from the Louisiana Lafayette coaching staff. So five pressures 0:15:19.200 --> 0:15:21.800 on five hundred and seventy four pass block reps and 0:15:21.960 --> 0:15:25.920 no blown blocking assignments on two hundred and sixteen running plays. 0:15:26.040 --> 0:15:28.480 And when you watch his tape, it just makes sense 0:15:28.520 --> 0:15:31.840 because I legitimately struggled to find him losing reps in 0:15:31.880 --> 0:15:35.520 the Sun Belt Conference, utter dominance in that conference, just 0:15:35.640 --> 0:15:38.480 tossing bodies all over the field. He's able to coil 0:15:38.520 --> 0:15:41.600 and unleash the power behind that big frame in his 0:15:41.720 --> 0:15:44.160 hips and really pop guys and square them up. Whether 0:15:44.240 --> 0:15:46.680 or not he's pulling play side, getting out in front 0:15:46.720 --> 0:15:49.040 for a screen pass or in a phone booth, he 0:15:49.080 --> 0:15:51.440 can roll those hips and then square them up and 0:15:51.520 --> 0:15:55.000 really makes for some explosive, highlight level blocks. I mean, 0:15:55.040 --> 0:15:57.280 how often do you see a right tackle or a 0:15:57.360 --> 0:16:00.480 right guard make the highlight reel over and over again, 0:16:00.720 --> 0:16:03.880 and he just does it consistently. There is a thread 0:16:03.920 --> 0:16:06.600 that I put up on Twitter at Wingfield NFL where 0:16:06.600 --> 0:16:10.000 I broke down his work against Georgia Southern. I didn't 0:16:10.000 --> 0:16:11.960 really break it down because the tape does the work 0:16:12.000 --> 0:16:14.600 for you. But it's the entire series from the first 0:16:14.600 --> 0:16:17.440 play of the drive to the touchdown, and Robert Hunt 0:16:17.680 --> 0:16:21.720 destroys a person on every single play, and just go 0:16:21.880 --> 0:16:23.480 check it out if you haven't seen it yet. It's 0:16:23.480 --> 0:16:26.040 a thirty three second video. The first play, he gets 0:16:26.040 --> 0:16:28.080 into a pass set from the right tackle position, the 0:16:28.120 --> 0:16:30.680 five technique tries to rush up his outside shoulder and 0:16:30.720 --> 0:16:33.360 he throws him over. The guy winds up basically doing 0:16:33.360 --> 0:16:35.440 that running trip move where you can't get your feet 0:16:35.480 --> 0:16:39.080 because you're off balance. Hunt just completely discards him initially 0:16:39.120 --> 0:16:41.920 and immediately in the past set there as a pass 0:16:41.960 --> 0:16:43.840 blocker at right tackle. It's a lot of fun to watch. 0:16:43.920 --> 0:16:46.480 Then he comes back on the next snap, it's a 0:16:46.560 --> 0:16:49.600 running play and he just completely displaces the exact same 0:16:49.640 --> 0:16:51.880 player from the exact same technique on a screen the 0:16:51.920 --> 0:16:54.440 other direction. He moves him out from the inside hash 0:16:54.440 --> 0:16:56.080 on the left part of the field all the way 0:16:56.120 --> 0:16:57.720 to the other side of the hash. It's kind of 0:16:57.840 --> 0:17:00.680 ridiculous how far and how much movement he gets there. 0:17:00.880 --> 0:17:03.440 And then the next play, another running down, he works 0:17:03.440 --> 0:17:05.840 on the same player in the same technique and just 0:17:05.880 --> 0:17:08.879 completely collapses him inside on an inside run out of 0:17:08.880 --> 0:17:11.160 the pistol where he gets movement about three or four 0:17:11.240 --> 0:17:13.880 yards again across the hash mark and then buries him 0:17:14.000 --> 0:17:17.080 with a pancake block. And then finally the touchdown rum 0:17:17.119 --> 0:17:20.000 the run from Louisiana, he has the exact same thing, 0:17:20.040 --> 0:17:22.000 bowls over a guy into the end zone for the 0:17:22.000 --> 0:17:24.840 touchdown run. Four consecutive snaps where I think you're gonna 0:17:24.840 --> 0:17:27.840 struggle to find anybody being that dominant on four plays 0:17:27.880 --> 0:17:30.560 back to back to back to back with Robert Hunt 0:17:30.720 --> 0:17:34.200 against Georgia Southern on that particular drive. And you often 0:17:34.240 --> 0:17:36.479 hear people talk about how well a guy moves for 0:17:36.560 --> 0:17:39.320 his size, and Robert Hunt is very nimble, and you 0:17:39.440 --> 0:17:41.680 might hear that he is nimble for a guy his size, 0:17:41.720 --> 0:17:44.600 but toss out that that disclaimer altogether. He's just a 0:17:44.720 --> 0:17:47.720 nimble dude. He can hit reach blocks like all the time, 0:17:47.920 --> 0:17:50.320 very regularly. And what a reach block is is when 0:17:50.320 --> 0:17:52.560 you're outflanked by a defensive lineman. So if you're a 0:17:52.680 --> 0:17:55.000 right tackle, he's gonna be lined up off your left 0:17:55.040 --> 0:17:57.200 shoulder and you have to get across him and make 0:17:57.240 --> 0:17:59.560 that reach block. It's a very difficult block to ask 0:17:59.560 --> 0:18:02.560 for guys because quickness, you're just outflanked from the start. 0:18:02.680 --> 0:18:04.320 But he does it all the time because of his 0:18:04.400 --> 0:18:08.400 nimble athletic ability, just an utter wall in past protection. 0:18:08.440 --> 0:18:11.040 We've read the stat for you guys, five pressures on 0:18:11.119 --> 0:18:14.080 five hundred and seventy four pass blocking reps. He has 0:18:14.119 --> 0:18:17.080 the length, the anchor, the punch, all those things are 0:18:17.080 --> 0:18:20.159 effective and it combines together for that great production he 0:18:20.200 --> 0:18:23.800 gave you in college position flexibility, the length off the edge. 0:18:23.840 --> 0:18:26.000 But you look at his density and the way he 0:18:26.000 --> 0:18:28.399 can really anchor that, which could be could make him 0:18:28.440 --> 0:18:30.960 effective as a guard or a tackle because he has 0:18:31.000 --> 0:18:33.479 the width, the length, and the ability to throw that 0:18:33.520 --> 0:18:36.080 punch and stun guys. Initially, I think he's gonna be 0:18:36.080 --> 0:18:39.080 a good player wherever he plays on this offensive line. Now, 0:18:39.280 --> 0:18:41.760 we talked about ray Kwon Davis a little bit or more, 0:18:41.800 --> 0:18:44.240 I should say, with Danny than anybody else, and he 0:18:44.280 --> 0:18:46.480