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Speaker 1: everybody at the Almost Famous Family, if you heard last

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Speaker 1: to hear from you. We want to hear your opinions,

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Speaker 1: your support. So if you appreciate this podcast, and you

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Speaker 1: We've been been doing a lot of these. It's been

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Speaker 1: really awesome. During the break. We've been sitting down with

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Speaker 1: you know, heard from from the last season. We've been

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Speaker 1: doing these in depth episodes as many as we can.

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Speaker 1: next in depth idea. The email reads really enjoyed the

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Speaker 1: in Depth podcast with Peter and Hannah am I would

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Speaker 1: welcome Peter Krause. Hello, Hello, thanks for having me, Peter.

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Speaker 1: We like to start out asking everyone about their home

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Speaker 1: why that? I was actually a forty Niners fan for

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Speaker 1: like four or five something like that. And you know,

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00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:28,080
Speaker 1: I'm a pretty shy, nervous person typically, and so that

429
00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:31,760
Speaker 1: that was, Oh my god, that just build up of

430
00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,359
Speaker 1: that first like three or four hours and you're getting

431
00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:36,239
Speaker 1: suited up and we go down into the lobby and

432
00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:39,080
Speaker 1: that's when I met four of the other guys. It

433
00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:46,159
Speaker 1: was Josiah Brian Um, what else was in my spot

434
00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:50,680
Speaker 1: with me? Eric? Maybe there there's like four or five

435
00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,919
Speaker 1: us that were down in the lobby first. And so

436
00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,679
Speaker 1: they put us all on the the limo and just

437
00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:58,560
Speaker 1: any random order, and we pull up to the bottom

438
00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:00,919
Speaker 1: of the hill for the house, and that's when they

439
00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:02,760
Speaker 1: asked us to get out and hang out for a second.

440
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:07,080
Speaker 1: And that's when I was told that I was gonna

441
00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:08,280
Speaker 1: be the first one out of the limbo of the

442
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:12,120
Speaker 1: entire thing. Is that how it hurt? It was Todd.

443
00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:13,520
Speaker 1: Todd told me it was gonna be the first one

444
00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:15,560
Speaker 1: out of the little Yeah. So at the bottom of

445
00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:17,960
Speaker 1: the driveway there was this like little pop up tent

446
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:19,879
Speaker 1: and the guy in there a bartend or whatever, and

447
00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:24,840
Speaker 1: I'm starting ripping shots to keep telling the story in

448
00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:28,520
Speaker 1: this detail. Oh my god, Yes, that was bad. So

449
00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:30,760
Speaker 1: finally begin in the car and we drive up the

450
00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:33,040
Speaker 1: hill and as you pull up and kind of around

451
00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:35,880
Speaker 1: the corner, you can see Rachel for the first time,

452
00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:38,720
Speaker 1: and her dress is all sparkly and her hair is

453
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,359
Speaker 1: beautiful and the lights are shining on her, and the

454
00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 1: ground is wet sort things just glistening and gorgeous, and

455
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:49,880
Speaker 1: you're like, this is so surreal. She's absolutely stunning. Um,

456
00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:53,120
Speaker 1: and then I blacked out, like I don't remember anything

457
00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:54,959
Speaker 1: from that point on. Also, I just like woke up

458
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,560
Speaker 1: in the house. It's like, all right, well, oh but

459
00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:02,120
Speaker 1: it's okay. I don't know. Actually, I both have commented

460
00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:04,439
Speaker 1: many times that blacking out when you came Elmo is

461
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:07,640
Speaker 1: very common. Oh yeah, I can imagine. I can't think

462
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,440
Speaker 1: of one person who's told us. Oh yeah, I remember

463
00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:14,159
Speaker 1: exactly what happened from like the door of the limo

464
00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:17,200
Speaker 1: to the door of the house. Oh. I don't even

465
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:19,560
Speaker 1: think I was telling myself. I hadn't told her my name.

466
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:21,640
Speaker 1: I was like, I had one job tell her my name,

467
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,160
Speaker 1: and I didn't even do that. In terms out I did.

468
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:28,480
Speaker 1: I did say my name at some point like you can.

469
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:30,280
Speaker 1: You can be a professional athlete and have a huge

470
00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:32,639
Speaker 1: event that you trained for all your life and you're ready.

471
00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,639
Speaker 1: But something like this, it's like it's one singular event

472
00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:38,200
Speaker 1: that will never happen again, that's never happened before. There's

473
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:40,000
Speaker 1: all these nerves leading up to it. There's all the

474
00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:42,480
Speaker 1: pressure leading up to it. Plus you're just trying to

475
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:46,520
Speaker 1: meet this person for the first time and develop relationship.

476
00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:50,879
Speaker 1: It was overwhelming, to say the least. It was a

477
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:54,120
Speaker 1: surreal experience, for sure. Can you tell our audience how

478
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:59,320
Speaker 1: it feels to not get the first impression? Rose? That

479
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:05,400
Speaker 1: wasn't too bad? Um, disappointing, but it wasn't terrible because

480
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:06,960
Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of people they're like, oh

481
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 1: my god, you had not even ten minutes with this person.

482
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 1: How can you be so heartbroken when you don't get

483
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:17,359
Speaker 1: that Rose? And it's bizarre. But it's very very sad

484
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 1: because it's basically like, oh, your first impression wasn't good enough. Yeah,

485
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:23,919
Speaker 1: I mean I thought she and I had a really

486
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,960
Speaker 1: good connection on our first sit down and it was

487
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 1: actually longer. I think we talked forb minutes. Yeah, that

488
00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:35,400
Speaker 1: was good. Um, obviously I want of the first impression roads,

489
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,160
Speaker 1: but I don't think I was too disappointed about it.

490
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,560
Speaker 1: There was definitely points later on. I got to some point,

491
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:45,840
Speaker 1: did you kiss her on that one? Okay, I wasn't

492
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 1: even gonna kiss her on our first date. Yeah, I

493
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:54,560
Speaker 1: wanted to, you know, remain a gentleman, and yeah, it

494
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 1: just she leaned in for the kiss, and it was

495
00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:59,200
Speaker 1: the most awkward first kiss because I like, I didn't

496
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:00,520
Speaker 1: want her to be the one a lean in for

497
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:02,199
Speaker 1: the first kiss, but then it was too late and like, well,

498
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,360
Speaker 1: I'm definitely gonna reciproc Kate, and so this is like

499
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 1: awkward interaction. But I mean once they kissed her, yeah,

500
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:13,560
Speaker 1: I was like, I'll definitely kiss again. When did you

501
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 1: start feeling like a front runner? Honestly, when we went

502
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 1: on our first date, so I was the first one

503
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 1: on one day and the very first time we started talking,

504
00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:28,199
Speaker 1: I didn't even think about it as that experience anymore.

505
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 1: It was like she and I connected so quickly as

506
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,240
Speaker 1: even just like a friendship level. So we had a

507
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:35,440
Speaker 1: really unique experience where I guess a lot of times

508
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 1: on dates, you meet them at the date spot, you

509
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:39,600
Speaker 1: hang out for a couple of hours, you get shipped

510
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 1: to the next date spot meet them again for a

511
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 1: couple of hours, kiss goodnight. She came and picked me up.

512
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,119
Speaker 1: I drove the two of us in a Tesla to

513
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 1: an airport where we got on a plane together, flew

514
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:53,920
Speaker 1: to the location, took a limit together to the location,

515
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:58,199
Speaker 1: and then had our first full day date. And it

516
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:00,520
Speaker 1: wasn't until after that that we got put into separate

517
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 1: cars to go freshen up, eat all that stuff at

518
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,960
Speaker 1: a separate location. If we were with together with each

519
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 1: other for probably eight hours, I want to say, before

520
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 1: we separated for the first time. Um, and then we're

521
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 1: together together for probably another like four so hours, I

522
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 1: want to say, we were together like all day that

523
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:21,119
Speaker 1: first day, and the whole time we were together, we

524
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 1: never stopped talking. That's amazing. Constant, yeah, constant communication, so

525
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 1: much laughter, a lot of fun. We just I mean,

526
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,439
Speaker 1: I felt like I was really good friends with her immediately,

527
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 1: and so I never really felt like a front runner.

528
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,120
Speaker 1: It was more like I really enjoyed this person's company,

529
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:40,399
Speaker 1: and I think we have a really good thing going.

530
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:44,160
Speaker 1: The problems started for me when also it was eight

531
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 1: weeks before I had a date with her again. I

532
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:50,480
Speaker 1: was gonna say, an eight hour first date could be

533
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 1: very intimidating if you don't have a natural flow and conversation.

534
00:27:55,320 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 1: What I'm saying a twenty minute date without is I mean,

535
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:03,120
Speaker 1: I've gone one days where like you just sit there

536
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:06,119
Speaker 1: searching for stuff to say and there was never a

537
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,439
Speaker 1: gap in conversation the entire time. M Well, so it

538
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 1: took you eight weeks then to have that next day. Hey, Peter,

539
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:14,439
Speaker 1: we're going to come back and have you kind of

540
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,639
Speaker 1: pick it up where you're at with kind of the

541
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 1: gap in between the first day and second day leading

542
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,359
Speaker 1: up to then obviously at the end of the show

543
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 1: and to your life now. Hey, we'll be back with

544
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 1: Peter Krauss on the in depth episode of the Almost

545
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 1: Famous podcast. All Right, Peter, so we know when you

546
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,239
Speaker 1: started to feel like a front runner. When did you

547
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 1: start feeling like, oh, man, I'm falling in love with

548
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 1: her and I think I may want to end up

549
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 1: with her. Because we all know that you didn't feel

550
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 1: comfortable getting engaged at the end, and this was something

551
00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 1: you were very clear with the entire time. But was

552
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:00,040
Speaker 1: there a point where you're like, oh, I want to

553
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 1: end up with her in the end? And just not

554
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 1: propose where do I start. So, yeah, there there was

555
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 1: eight weeks between my first date in my second, and

556
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 1: I think, unfortunately what happened for me during that time,

557
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 1: Like I was so ready to go on my second

558
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 1: date with her right away and get to see her again,

559
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 1: and I got to get little snippets of her here

560
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 1: and there. Um, But you know, be completely honest with you, guys,

561
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 1: I've been going to see like a life coach for

562
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 1: years now, and more so after the show and all

563
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 1: that because of all the emotional tax that it took

564
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 1: on my life basically, and uh, come and find out,

565
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 1: like I have abandonment issues and learning to deal with

566
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:51,719
Speaker 1: those throughout life, and the experience itself forced those issues

567
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 1: to come to the surface full force. I mean, I

568
00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 1: developed these really strong feelings for this person right away

569
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 1: and really enjoy your company. And then you start to

570
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 1: see other people developing strong relationships with that same person,

571
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 1: and so my natural instinct is to protect myself a

572
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 1: little bit, and so I would just kind of stayed

573
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 1: at the back of the crowd. I try not to

574
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 1: make two good friends with too many of the guys.

575
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 1: I had my good core group of guys that was

576
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 1: really good friends with, but for the most part kind

577
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 1: of stuck to myself. Um, when I did see her,

578
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 1: it was all about her. Every time we went on

579
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 1: group dates, I'd give as much attention as I could,

580
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,960
Speaker 1: try to step out of like the back and be

581
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 1: up there in front so she could see me and

582
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 1: get a lot of one on one connections. Um. But

583
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 1: the first really like difficult day I had was we

584
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 1: were in Copenhagen. You know, we were in Oslo. We're

585
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 1: in Oslo, so the first abroad location that we went to,

586
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 1: and we went on a group date during the day

587
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 1: and it went really really well. And then that night

588
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 1: we had our cocktail like ours, whatever you wanna call it,

589
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 1: and she pulled me aside and we went up to

590
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 1: her room and shared like champagne, and um, you know,

591
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 1: they're filming all this, and she had a hot tub

592
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 1: out on a balcony. So we went out in the

593
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 1: hot tub and had this like awesome moment of like

594
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 1: just talking and then made out and it was great.

595
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 1: And then I go back down and I was like

596
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 1: in a relationship with her in my head at that point,

597
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 1: and she gave the rose to someone else. The date

598
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 1: rose to Will that there. I mean, I remember it

599
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 1: horror and he was pumped and I was shocked, and

600
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 1: I think that's where I really realized, like this is

601
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 1: a totally different experience, Like I should have watched the

602
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 1: show beforehand. Looking back at that moment, like now I

603
00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 1: see that's always the case and in many cases, like

604
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 1: the lead knows who they really like, and you know,

605
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 1: the show itself is in a way a bit of

606
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 1: I don't want to say a game, but like there

607
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 1: are certain things that you probably have to do as

608
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 1: a lead, um two, yeah, do it for the show

609
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 1: kind of thing. And so I took so much offense

610
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 1: internally in that moment that she didn't like me the

611
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 1: way that I liked her, that I didn't think, like,

612
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 1: this is also part of what I signed up for.

613
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 1: I can't just be the one she keeps giving date

614
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 1: rossis too kind of thing. Um So that was that

615
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 1: was like the first kind of like gut punched for

616
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 1: me on the show, and when I started really question

617
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 1: things and have some troubles with it and try my

618
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 1: best to try and ignore it. But then I think

619
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 1: it was Kenny went on like a date with her

620
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 1: one on one date the next day or like a

621
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 1: group date or something like that. And when he came back,

622
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 1: he was talking about how he had also gone up

623
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 1: to a room and they like hung out in the

624
00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 1: hot tub, and I was like, like, and this is

625
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 1: nothing against her. She did absolutely nothing wrong. I hold

626
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 1: never did hold anything against her as more, just like

627
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 1: I emotionally, it wasn't capable at that time of deciphering

628
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 1: what this meant, and was so thrown off and so

629
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 1: hurt by it that I think from that point on,

630
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 1: I just was in my head NonStop with the entire process.

631
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 1: It's like, I'm in love with this person, falling in

632
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 1: love with this person, and they are literally dating other

633
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 1: people doing the same things that I hold to be

634
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 1: so special, and they're able to do it with others.

635
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 1: So I like it downplayed what I thought was a

636
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 1: really good connection in my own mind. And so then

637
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 1: when we finally did have our second date, I was

638
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 1: all torn up and confused about all that, but then

639
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 1: also so stressed out that this is the only second

640
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 1: time that I'm going to have like a full day

641
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 1: with this person, and the next chance I see them

642
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 1: will be with my family, And so it was again

643
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 1: like the pressures of that so then you go on

644
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 1: your family date, and the majority of the time I

645
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 1: was talking to my family or talking to my friends,

646
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:02,960
Speaker 1: and so she and I didn't really progress our relationship.

647
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 1: And then we met her family and it was the

648
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 1: same thing, like catching up on the last day talking

649
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 1: about that, but then talking to families and not really

650
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 1: catching up with each other and building a relationship. And

651
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,879
Speaker 1: then it was let's fly off to Europe and talk

652
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 1: about getting engaged in like two three days. And so

653
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 1: I was still wounded. Basically, I don't like me to

654
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 1: sound so negative, but it's what happened, and trying to

655
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,920
Speaker 1: like still get through the relationship and progress it and

656
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 1: let this person know that I truly care about them

657
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:37,840
Speaker 1: and I'm falling in love with them walm ending a

658
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 1: wound at the same time, and then having the pressure

659
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 1: of engagement is just a couple of days away, and

660
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,720
Speaker 1: I am still trying to like wrap my head around

661
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,919
Speaker 1: everything and make sure this is a relationship that will

662
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,720
Speaker 1: last a lifetime and I'm not caught up in the moment,

663
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:53,919
Speaker 1: and you know, we can get along outside of these

664
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:55,439
Speaker 1: walls and all sort of stuff. So it just became

665
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:58,320
Speaker 1: so overwhelming that I think I dug my feet in

666
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 1: the ground, just like I'm not ready get engaged, Like

667
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,919
Speaker 1: I really really like you, falling in love with you,

668
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 1: but I need to get to know us together before

669
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,880
Speaker 1: I can, you know, just jump to that level. Have

670
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:14,720
Speaker 1: you been able at this point to communicate with Rachel

671
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 1: kind of the wounds that are understandably so, I mean

672
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 1: from a Leeds perspective, I would I would have a

673
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 1: hundred percent understood that you had been confusing her. I'm

674
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:24,880
Speaker 1: sure she was as well, had you been able to

675
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 1: communicate that with her at that point. I think I

676
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:34,799
Speaker 1: was so wrapped up and trying to like progress our

677
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:37,839
Speaker 1: relationship and make her happy and show her the good

678
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 1: sides of me that I don't think I ever communicated that.

679
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 1: We definitely had like our conversations about the engagement, but

680
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 1: I also don't think I don't think at the time

681
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 1: I realized why I was thinking or acting the way

682
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:52,799
Speaker 1: that I did. I mean, in any breakup, you go

683
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 1: back and you play things back through your head and

684
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 1: with a clear mind and realize, Okay, this is probably

685
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 1: why this actually happened. Um. You know, there's a lot

686
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 1: of people that need time and space to figure things out,

687
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 1: and there's a lot of people that need to talk

688
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:14,279
Speaker 1: about and unfortunately, my way of fixing things and partnerships, relationships,

689
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 1: whatever it may be friendships is to talk about it

690
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 1: and talk out the problems. And sometimes that's not the

691
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 1: best thing to do. Sometimes that causes more stress and

692
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 1: more pain and more separation. Um, can you know, build

693
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 1: off a height and emotions and so I wish I

694
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 1: had known the things now then, and you know I didn't,

695
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:38,879
Speaker 1: so I kind of rolled with what I was doing

696
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:42,799
Speaker 1: and it ended up the way it ended up. Are

697
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,320
Speaker 1: you willing to talk to us about the abandonment issues

698
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 1: and where they came from? I don't know if you guys.

699
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,240
Speaker 1: Do you guys believe in nature or nurture or combination

700
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:55,400
Speaker 1: of both, combination of both my opinion. So my belief

701
00:36:55,480 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 1: is that, um, everybody has preset levels of stress and

702
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 1: emotion and all these things that you're just born with it.

703
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 1: So I don't know if you guys know this, but

704
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 1: when your grandmother was pregnant with your mother, your emotional set,

705
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 1: basically it was already being imprinted on your yourself. So

706
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 1: like your mom was already developing your egg when her

707
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 1: mother was four months pregnant with her so any of

708
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 1: the stress emotional and physical that your grandma went through

709
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 1: was imprinted on your mom, which then has been printed

710
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 1: on your egg, which then actually translates down to you

711
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,919
Speaker 1: at some point. So no matter who you are, where

712
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 1: you are, you are built off at some level with

713
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 1: a baseline of stress or anxiety or even depression all

714
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:51,320
Speaker 1: these things. So that's like the nature side of it.

715
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 1: And then you get the nurture, and it's just the

716
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 1: environment that you brought up in the people that you're

717
00:37:55,920 --> 00:38:00,280
Speaker 1: around all the time, and how you interpret those situation

718
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 1: is based off that no nature. Um So where it

719
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:08,959
Speaker 1: all came from specifically, I I can't say for sure,

720
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,400
Speaker 1: but there's ideas in my head and with my life

721
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 1: coach that we've talked about. Um yeah, there's definitely like

722
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:19,240
Speaker 1: a heightened level I'm sure of stressed for me And

723
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 1: yeah that showed up has abandoned issues. Well yeah, well,

724
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 1: I mean thanks for sharing. I think, I mean, so

725
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:29,919
Speaker 1: many of us right sit here and go I don't

726
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 1: know why I feel the way I do or why

727
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 1: I react the way I do. Um, but as you

728
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:38,800
Speaker 1: dig deep. I mean I just mentioned on the podcast

729
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:42,319
Speaker 1: last week, I've been in therapy now for uh a

730
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,720
Speaker 1: month now. Kind of walking through some of this stuff

731
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 1: too when it's been it appears has been super helpful

732
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 1: for me. Um, to identify some of these things. Well, hey,

733
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 1: I want to jump ahead here. Then, Uh, you're sitting

734
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 1: in the seat here, or you're sitting in the time

735
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:00,799
Speaker 1: period where you and Rachel are developing feelings, you're leading

736
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 1: up to a proposal. And so we flashed to that

737
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 1: day you were the runner up. And as we mentioned,

738
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 1: looking back always helps, It always helps us process better

739
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 1: looking back on this. How would you process this experience

740
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 1: of how did you describe that day, the pains and

741
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 1: the the ups and downs of it. Well, so she

742
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 1: and I had our final date and conversation the day

743
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 1: before we were supposed to, um like offer up a proposal.

744
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 1: I don't know how to say that, get down on

745
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:34,320
Speaker 1: one knee, right, um, And she and I had the

746
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 1: conversation that night, and um, you know, like the relationship ended.

747
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 1: She Um, she and I just didn't see eye to eye.

748
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 1: And I also truly believe I did watch the season

749
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:52,239
Speaker 1: back not too long ago for the first time, and

750
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 1: you can see from the start that she is in

751
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 1: love with Brian, like absolutely obsessed with Brian, they click

752
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:01,800
Speaker 1: on a level that she and I never did. When

753
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 1: all those people came out all the time and saying

754
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:07,840
Speaker 1: all these awful things about her choice or about Brian

755
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:10,359
Speaker 1: and put me up on a pedestal, it really made

756
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:13,319
Speaker 1: me upset because they didn't see the background of it.

757
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 1: There's a lot that the show doesn't show. There's a

758
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 1: lot a lot a lot of hours of tape and

759
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 1: not everything makes it to screen. And um, looking back

760
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:23,800
Speaker 1: at it, I could even say, they probably trying to

761
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 1: give me an edit to potentially become the Bachelor, and

762
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:28,759
Speaker 1: so it was gonna make me look better. And you know,

763
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:33,400
Speaker 1: he wasn't as important at that point, m um. So

764
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 1: you know, obviously you think she made the right choice.

765
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 1: And they seemed so happy and beautiful together and she

766
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:43,799
Speaker 1: and I just weren't meant to be and so the

767
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:47,319
Speaker 1: relationship ended, and um, you know it sucked. Obviously. I

768
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 1: cried a bunch. Megan was my producer, and she played

769
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 1: the same song over for me for brobably like six

770
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 1: hours straight as I cried on the floor. But then

771
00:40:58,160 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 1: you know, like a couple of days later, of all

772
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 1: the what was me, she and I were able to

773
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 1: go to Madrid, and I was like, Okay, new start.

774
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 1: I'm in Madrid. Beautiful city. Is gonna be a lot

775
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 1: of fun. You know. For all I know she and

776
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 1: Brian didn't end up together, because you know, I'm still

777
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 1: fresh off the break up at that point. I don't

778
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:17,400
Speaker 1: know what happened after she left, And it wasn't until

779
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:23,759
Speaker 1: Brian's producer walked past us with her producer and I

780
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 1: was like, uh, like, okay, they're together. That that was

781
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 1: like the sign I needed. Um. So, yeah, that was

782
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 1: a rough couple of days after the fact, and then

783
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 1: I got back home and everything just kind of went

784
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 1: right back to the way it was. It was back

785
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:41,800
Speaker 1: with my family hanging out, I had a new puppy,

786
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:47,319
Speaker 1: m Like. It was okay for a few days, and

787
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,800
Speaker 1: then the season starts and there's all like the stress

788
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 1: and fear and excitement of the show coming on and

789
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:56,840
Speaker 1: watching yourself on TV for the first time. That was

790
00:41:56,880 --> 00:42:02,879
Speaker 1: exciting and terrifying. Mm hmm. Yeah. So did you think

791
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 1: that possibly after your breakup, that she wasn't going to

792
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 1: pick anyone? I did, yeah at the time, And you

793
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 1: inferred that it kind of upset you a little bit

794
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:15,360
Speaker 1: in that moment to see that she did what it

795
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:19,839
Speaker 1: was confirmation of the fear that I had that she

796
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 1: had gotten engaged to Brian or at least like, you know,

797
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 1: go on with Brian. M hm. You got a lot

798
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 1: of flak at the time for being on the show

799
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 1: and not being willing to propose, because they want all

800
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 1: people who signed up for the show to of course

801
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 1: be marriage oriented, and a lot of people are like, oh, well,

802
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:43,799
Speaker 1: if he doesn't want to propose, then like, why the

803
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 1: heck is he here? But is it because you were

804
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 1: still unfamiliar with the process and knowing what you knew,

805
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:53,399
Speaker 1: you thought that you were going to have a lot

806
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 1: more time with her before that proposal. I definitely went

807
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 1: into the experience thinking that there was more time with

808
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:03,320
Speaker 1: the person. And I think for some people the process

809
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 1: does work, and the timeline and like the the rate

810
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 1: at which you have your dates and you spend time

811
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:12,360
Speaker 1: with the person works really well for some people and

812
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 1: for some people it doesn't. For myself because there was

813
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 1: a huge gap in the middle, and then there was

814
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 1: these things that kind of like I'm gonna call him

815
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 1: gut punches during that time. Again, no fault of hers,

816
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 1: it was just the way that the process went for me. Um, yeah,

817
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 1: it set me back. It had the process spent different,

818
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe even like the show itself could

819
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:34,799
Speaker 1: have worked for me. I can't say it was, you know,

820
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:39,279
Speaker 1: hindsight is what it is at this point. We we

821
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:42,879
Speaker 1: recently had Hannah Ann on the In Depth podcast and

822
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 1: we spoke to her about kind of her time on

823
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 1: the show and how long it's taken her to recover

824
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 1: from her break up with Peter, and she mentions it

825
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 1: she's still recovered. How long did it take you to

826
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 1: cover from from this whole? I guess not even the

827
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:57,399
Speaker 1: show part as much, because we'll get into that too,

828
00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 1: but the relationship piece of this. Oh, I don't know.

829
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 1: I mean, how long did that thing? I think it

830
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:11,359
Speaker 1: took an extentded period of time for me because as

831
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:15,279
Speaker 1: you watch the show, it's constantly reopening the wound, and

832
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:19,800
Speaker 1: then after the show, all the talk about me becoming

833
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 1: the Bachelor kept that wound open, and then every time

834
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 1: someone would post on social media, I'd see it, it it

835
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 1: would reopen the wound. And then every time that they

836
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:32,239
Speaker 1: talked about the next Bachelor coming up or you I like,

837
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:36,359
Speaker 1: I watched a little bit of the next season the Bachelorette,

838
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 1: and like that opened back up because it brings you

839
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:40,960
Speaker 1: back to all the same places and some of the

840
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 1: same experiences. And so I watched me like a couple

841
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 1: of half episodes and UM, yeah, I'm just gonna do it.

842
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 1: So I think the wound took a long time to

843
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 1: fully close. And now it's more the show itself and

844
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 1: all of the craziness of it and the aftermath of it.

845
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:00,880
Speaker 1: There's so many amazing I came from the show, Like

846
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:02,800
Speaker 1: I met you, guys. Vegas was one of the funnest

847
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 1: weekends of my life. It was I remember that year.

848
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 1: That's when we found out. Actually actually, um, Peter and

849
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:13,239
Speaker 1: I were at lunch with Wells when he told us

850
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 1: that he was dating Sarah Highland for the very first time.

851
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:19,360
Speaker 1: Remember that, Peter Sarah. Yeah, Sarah had just had like

852
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 1: a surgery and they FaceTime and they were the sweetest couple.

853
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Yeah, I remember that. I remember when

854
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 1: they faced time in the car for the first time

855
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:34,279
Speaker 1: on our way to the Heart Festival, and then we

856
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 1: had that sunnight. Then you didn't feel good. You had

857
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:39,720
Speaker 1: that like horrible fever. And then I went out with Wells,

858
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 1: Dean and Peter, and I was like, there are millions

859
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 1: of girls around this country who would just pay so

860
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:49,839
Speaker 1: many thousands of dollars to be in my spot. Right now,

861
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 1: it's not alive. And I just met everybody for the

862
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 1: first time, and we were trying to go to a

863
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:01,880
Speaker 1: club and they wouldn't let us in, so I pretended

864
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 1: to be wells as manager. I was like, yeah, yeah,

865
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 1: we should. You should probably let him in here. I

866
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 1: don't know if you know that, remember that. I think

867
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 1: it worked. We got into that club. Oh no, no,

868
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 1: you're right, we did. No, it was Paris. That's so good. Well, Peter,

869
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 1: we're getting here to a really interesting part of this

870
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 1: whole experience. And one day, actually they were both super

871
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:36,359
Speaker 1: intrigued to talk to you about, Um, you know, kind

872
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 1: of this this ending of the show felt, you know,

873
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:43,360
Speaker 1: felt heavy. Then you kind of disappeared. Uh and in

874
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 1: a way that nobody really understands. And I think that's

875
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:49,239
Speaker 1: one of the parts that has intrigued everybody is where

876
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 1: did Peter go? He was loved, he there was controversy

877
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:55,920
Speaker 1: surrounding him not getting engaged. Uh, where did you go?

878
00:46:56,080 --> 00:47:04,240
Speaker 1: Where have you been? What happened? Um? Where did that go? Home.

879
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 1: I just kind of went went home. I tried to

880
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 1: go back to normal life, and it didn't work. Like

881
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:12,839
Speaker 1: there there was nothing normal about life from that point on.

882
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 1: You know, during the summer that I was airing, I

883
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:19,839
Speaker 1: was at my parents house a lot. I didn't even

884
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:23,279
Speaker 1: go back to my house at ton Um try to

885
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 1: start work back up with my in home training business,

886
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 1: but all people wanted to do was talk about the

887
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:30,279
Speaker 1: show and get all the inside information about it. And

888
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:32,360
Speaker 1: I opened myself up to new clients and all of

889
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:34,320
Speaker 1: them would come in for one session, which you know,

890
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 1: I always gave out one free session to get to

891
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:39,399
Speaker 1: know people, and then they would never come back at

892
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:43,279
Speaker 1: that point, so I was just like, yeah, so I

893
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 1: just became like this entity to people and it drove

894
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:50,279
Speaker 1: me crazy. So eventually I just kind of said, screw it.

895
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna just keep hiring trainers to take care of

896
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 1: everybody and I'm not going to do that myself. And yeah,

897
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 1: I don't I don't really know what I did that summer.

898
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:05,319
Speaker 1: I worked out a lot, just kind of did my

899
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 1: own thing. Um eventually got to do some traveling from it.

900
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:11,319
Speaker 1: You know, I went to New York for a couple

901
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 1: of interviews. Um, I went to meet you guys in Vegas.

902
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:17,759
Speaker 1: I went up to Canada a couple of times to

903
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 1: meet some people and do a couple of events. There

904
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:22,959
Speaker 1: wasn't really a whole lot of structure in my life

905
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:26,760
Speaker 1: for a while after the show, like it really changed

906
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:32,239
Speaker 1: everything quite a bit around Bachelor Nation was that they

907
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 1: wanted you to be the Bachelor, but that you were

908
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 1: asking too much, holding out, and that they didn't want

909
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 1: to beg for you, so they decided to go with Ari.

910
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 1: Is there any truth to that? M okay, yeah, all right.

911
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 1: So they asked me to be the Bachelor and I

912
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 1: said no, like a straight up now. And a couple

913
00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 1: weeks later they called and made a little bit more

914
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:06,359
Speaker 1: formal and I again said no. And then we were

915
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:13,720
Speaker 1: out in New York for Good Morning America after the

916
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:18,800
Speaker 1: um after the Final Rose, and they asked me there

917
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:21,279
Speaker 1: and again I said no, And by that time I

918
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:26,719
Speaker 1: was starting to talk to a girl, and um, you

919
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 1: had feelings for They asked, you know again for a

920
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:33,799
Speaker 1: third time, flew me out to l A to talk

921
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 1: about it really like straight up, and um, you know,

922
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:40,920
Speaker 1: I told him I had started to talk to him,

923
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 1: and they said, well, are you guys in a relationship?

924
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 1: And I said no, like okay, well would you be

925
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 1: willing to leave that or exit that? And I wasn't sure.

926
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:53,280
Speaker 1: So then we really started talking about like the details

927
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 1: of the show itself and how it was really hard

928
00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:58,759
Speaker 1: for me, and I couldn't say I would for sure

929
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:00,279
Speaker 1: be able to get in an engage. And at the

930
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 1: end it wasn't that I knew for a fact that

931
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 1: I want to was more, I couldn't have promised them

932
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 1: that I would, and I didn't want to be forced

933
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 1: to do it if I said yes to the show.

934
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:13,799
Speaker 1: And there's a lot of back and forth in this

935
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:17,600
Speaker 1: meeting that we had, and um, money was never discussed

936
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 1: until we got to the actual compensation and I said, well,

937
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 1: I make considerably more than that already per year. Why

938
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:27,919
Speaker 1: would I give up in my thoughts, like the rest

939
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:29,840
Speaker 1: of my life's being known as Peter the Bachelor and

940
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 1: no longer as Peter for the amount of money that

941
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:37,880
Speaker 1: isn't life changing. And so money was discussed and we

942
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 1: all agreed it wouldn't make sense to, you know, pay

943
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:43,719
Speaker 1: a ton of money, because then you're no longer doing

944
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:46,800
Speaker 1: it for the right reasons. So money was never actually

945
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 1: like a major factor in it, but they did think

946
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:53,880
Speaker 1: that there was, you know, a certain amount that I

947
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 1: would be paid. I guess that would that would be

948
00:50:56,719 --> 00:51:01,360
Speaker 1: fair compared to my my income at the time. UM.

949
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 1: I said, all right, I mean that sounds fine. And

950
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:04,840
Speaker 1: so then we started talking about the details of the

951
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:08,719
Speaker 1: show itself and came to agreements on some of the

952
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:12,880
Speaker 1: things that could be changed to help me with what

953
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:15,440
Speaker 1: I needed in the show, which I mean, I'll just

954
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:16,960
Speaker 1: so you straight up. I wanted to be able to

955
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 1: spend more time with people individually. UM. I wanted to

956
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:24,319
Speaker 1: be able to just like go into the house and

957
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:26,480
Speaker 1: see people in their natural habitat so that way it

958
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 1: didn't feel like they were putting on a show for me.

959
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 1: It was more like, this is who you actually are

960
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:34,279
Speaker 1: when you're unsuspecting of what or not what the where

961
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 1: I'm at. UM. I wanted relationship counseling for myself in

962
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:44,880
Speaker 1: the top like four or five girls during the process,

963
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:47,920
Speaker 1: so that way we could work things out on a

964
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 1: deep level. And then I wanted continued support, um for

965
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:56,760
Speaker 1: myself and that person that I chose after the fact, UM,

966
00:51:56,800 --> 00:52:00,400
Speaker 1: because I saw that pressure that Ryan and Rachel we

967
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:03,720
Speaker 1: are put under, and I thought it was extremely unfair. Um,

968
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 1: I think Brian got a really bad rap and didn't

969
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:07,279
Speaker 1: deserve it. Even though, like I said my things about

970
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:10,279
Speaker 1: Brian on the show, I said them out of frustration

971
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:15,240
Speaker 1: of losing the girl that I was with to that man. Um.

972
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:21,880
Speaker 1: So there's conversations and uh, yeah, I think those are

973
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 1: smart requests. Yeah, I didn't want to. I don't want

974
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:30,359
Speaker 1: to be a dick about it. I didn't wanna be like, hey,

975
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 1: I'm I'm better than this, or this is what I deserve.

976
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:35,920
Speaker 1: I was just saying, like, I do actually want to

977
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 1: fall in love and get married at some point, but

978
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:41,880
Speaker 1: I want to you'll make it under my term this

979
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 1: kind of thing. This is my life, it's my long term.

980
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 1: It's not just a short term goal for me. I

981
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:50,800
Speaker 1: understand the show can progress my life and my career

982
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 1: in many ways that it probably wouldn't otherwise. But at

983
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:55,279
Speaker 1: the same time, I was confident enough that I could

984
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 1: do that on my own, under my own hard work,

985
00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:02,960
Speaker 1: and so I wasn't gonna sacrifice some of my leaves

986
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 1: um to be that. So you mentioned not wanting to

987
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:08,839
Speaker 1: feel the pressure of needing to get engaged or being

988
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:12,160
Speaker 1: forced into it did frustrate you to see the following

989
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:17,320
Speaker 1: seasons go like this, Ari SWITCHERU Colton Fence Jump, no engagement,

990
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 1: Peter failed engagement, no relationship. It made me think like

991
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:25,719
Speaker 1: maybe I put way too much pressure on myself for

992
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 1: that because I read too much of what everybody was

993
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:32,560
Speaker 1: saying in social media worlds and saying that it was

994
00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:35,400
Speaker 1: all about the engagement nothing else mattered, And that just

995
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:37,680
Speaker 1: goes to show that, no, it's about following your heart

996
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:39,959
Speaker 1: and picking the relationship that's best for you in any

997
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:42,920
Speaker 1: form of that comes in. And I think at the

998
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:48,239
Speaker 1: time it was still so much about engagement that I

999
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:50,120
Speaker 1: was just really frowned upon by those people who were

1000
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:55,759
Speaker 1: watching the show solely for the engagement. You you say

1001
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 1: a lot of this, Peter in it's kind of a

1002
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:01,279
Speaker 1: tone of this is what you were doing at the time,

1003
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:04,839
Speaker 1: and so don't want to ask you now, how many

1004
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:08,279
Speaker 1: years out would you have changed anything? Would you have

1005
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:12,560
Speaker 1: done any of this different? What I have? No? Um do?

1006
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 1: I sometimes wonder what life would have been like had

1007
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:19,839
Speaker 1: I done things different all the time? Um? You know what,

1008
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:23,120
Speaker 1: what if I would have said yes and just been

1009
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 1: the bachelor? You know what? Would life be like now?

1010
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:28,759
Speaker 1: Would I be with someone right now? Would I be

1011
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:30,840
Speaker 1: in New York or l a where most of the

1012
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:35,200
Speaker 1: people seem to go. Um, I don't know how how

1013
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 1: would life change? Would my business have its stores closed

1014
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:42,480
Speaker 1: right now and me like scared to death watching tens

1015
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:44,880
Speaker 1: of thousands of dollars walk out the door every week? Like,

1016
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:47,960
Speaker 1: I don't know. It could have been life changing. But

1017
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:51,279
Speaker 1: at the same time, all the attention has been a

1018
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 1: ton already and I wasn't the Bachelor. I can't imagine

1019
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:56,560
Speaker 1: what you as the Bachelor experience on a regular basis.

1020
00:54:56,640 --> 00:55:01,759
Speaker 1: I mean, you are forever been the Bachelor, m Um,

1021
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:08,520
Speaker 1: I do you're everywhere a show? Yeah? I mean and

1022
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:10,120
Speaker 1: and you and I. You know, as we talked about,

1023
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:13,440
Speaker 1: we both had our own I'm not gonna call it damage.

1024
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:16,240
Speaker 1: I don't know what you would like, our own issues

1025
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 1: from it, you know, you we both emotionally are trying

1026
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:21,480
Speaker 1: to still kind of recover from, you know, this week,

1027
00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:24,600
Speaker 1: I in all vulnerability, like I went on a texting

1028
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:27,360
Speaker 1: spree to actually saying like, hey, I'm sorry that sometimes

1029
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:30,359
Speaker 1: I feel you as a co host, like, hey, I'm

1030
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:33,919
Speaker 1: sorry that sometimes like I don't feel like I match

1031
00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:35,960
Speaker 1: up to what you need as as a partner here,

1032
00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:38,080
Speaker 1: and it mostly comes to a place of like I

1033
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:40,239
Speaker 1: hear it, and I see it, and it affects me,

1034
00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:42,120
Speaker 1: and it still affects me as a thirty one year

1035
00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:46,759
Speaker 1: old man five years later. Yea. And so when you

1036
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:49,920
Speaker 1: when you say this stuff, Peter, like, you're not alone, right,

1037
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:52,239
Speaker 1: And I think actually could say and probably say the

1038
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:55,360
Speaker 1: same thing, like this stuff affects you, but in the

1039
00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:59,080
Speaker 1: same breath, it does change your life forever and in

1040
00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:01,080
Speaker 1: a lot of good way. And so that leaves me

1041
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:03,560
Speaker 1: the next question with you is do you want any

1042
00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:04,799
Speaker 1: of that stuff? Like do you want to be in

1043
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:06,960
Speaker 1: l A and New York? And do you want to

1044
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 1: be in a relationship right now? And then also please explain,

1045
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 1: like where your business is that right now? Like how

1046
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:14,120
Speaker 1: how how is this brand new venture that you and

1047
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:16,359
Speaker 1: I talked about, I don't know what six months ago

1048
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:18,239
Speaker 1: we texted back and forth about it, Like how is

1049
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:23,120
Speaker 1: that doing? Oh? Do I want to be in a relationship? Yes?

1050
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 1: Do I wanna find the love of my life and

1051
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:28,239
Speaker 1: have a beautiful house with a picket fence and like

1052
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:31,239
Speaker 1: six dogs. Hell yeah, I want to have little kids.

1053
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:34,600
Speaker 1: I want to push them in carts and play with

1054
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:39,480
Speaker 1: him out in the yard. And yeah, like baby kisses

1055
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 1: are the best, the cutest, sweetest little things on earth.

1056
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 1: I stand want all those things, but I I want

1057
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:47,680
Speaker 1: to wait till I find someone that is my best

1058
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:53,920
Speaker 1: friend first and we developed a relationship that is, you know,

1059
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:57,759
Speaker 1: undeniable in its connection, and then from there take the

1060
00:56:57,760 --> 00:57:02,160
Speaker 1: next steps in life. You know, I've grown a lot

1061
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:04,560
Speaker 1: since being on the show and changed a lot in

1062
00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:07,719
Speaker 1: my life. And uh, I think I really know what

1063
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:10,400
Speaker 1: I want and I'm not wasting my time with things

1064
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:13,120
Speaker 1: that aren't there for me. So I've tried a couple

1065
00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:14,960
Speaker 1: of relationships. Like the girl I was talking to at

1066
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:18,480
Speaker 1: the time, it instantly didn't work. It's actually like we

1067
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:26,320
Speaker 1: stopped talking weeks after that conversation with Ashler. Um. But yeah,

1068
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:28,680
Speaker 1: like I want those things. I want to build my

1069
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:30,960
Speaker 1: gym up here. I want to open up a couple

1070
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:34,400
Speaker 1: more if I can. Um. You guys know, I traveled

1071
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:38,320
Speaker 1: the country doing boot camps and it is my favorite

1072
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:40,840
Speaker 1: freaking thing on earth. Like the rush and the high

1073
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:42,840
Speaker 1: that I get from that and the smiles and the

1074
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:45,919
Speaker 1: energy that I get from the crowd are as close

1075
00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:47,880
Speaker 1: as I'll ever become to being a rock star, and

1076
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:51,200
Speaker 1: I think it's the coolest thing, and I will do

1077
00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 1: that till it is no longer available. H Unfortunately, attention

1078
00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:58,840
Speaker 1: and fame that came from the show that built those

1079
00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:01,000
Speaker 1: crowds is waning a little bit, so the crowds aren't

1080
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:02,480
Speaker 1: quite as big as they used to. Beat. Hey, we

1081
00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:06,040
Speaker 1: understand that too. Yeah, the further you get from the

1082
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:10,600
Speaker 1: show obviously the least that's there. So you have to decide,

1083
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:12,080
Speaker 1: all right, do I go back on the show to

1084
00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:14,080
Speaker 1: you try and pick that back up? Where am I

1085
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 1: happy with where I'm at? Am I happy with the

1086
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:18,640
Speaker 1: life that I have, And I'm really happy with the

1087
00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 1: life I have. I have the gym of my dreams,

1088
00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:23,520
Speaker 1: I have my family, I have my dog. I have

1089
00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 1: this beautiful apartment that I love. Um, I was gonna

1090
00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:28,920
Speaker 1: buy a house. Unfortunately I'll have put down hold a

1091
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:33,160
Speaker 1: little bit. But yeah, No, I'm happy. I'm good with

1092
00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:35,200
Speaker 1: where everything's at right now. And at some point I'd

1093
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:36,720
Speaker 1: like to get out of Madison once the gym is

1094
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:40,320
Speaker 1: up and sufficient. Um, I want to get somewhere warmer.

1095
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:45,760
Speaker 1: This winter crap is just killing me, taking me down

1096
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:49,880
Speaker 1: a little bit every day. M hmm. Have you had

1097
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:56,000
Speaker 1: a relationship strong enough to speak of since the show? Um?

1098
00:58:56,040 --> 00:59:00,320
Speaker 1: Not really. Why do you think that is just haven't

1099
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:06,200
Speaker 1: found her? Are you on the apps? I'm on, I

1100
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:08,680
Speaker 1: was on. I guess, like you could say, a dating now.

1101
00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:11,919
Speaker 1: I log on and off of Bumble every now and then.

1102
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:15,360
Speaker 1: But no, I think it's I just haven't found the

1103
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:17,959
Speaker 1: right person yet. Um. Living in Madison, the dating pool

1104
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:20,480
Speaker 1: is pretty small. You kind of know everybody at this point.

1105
00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:22,400
Speaker 1: I mean it was the case before I went on

1106
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:23,720
Speaker 1: the show. I went on the show because I was

1107
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:27,520
Speaker 1: single and wanting to, um, you know, find a relationship

1108
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:32,680
Speaker 1: that wasn't in Madison, and came back wanted the same

1109
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:34,560
Speaker 1: kind of things and that just hasn't changed even though

1110
00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:38,920
Speaker 1: it's been three years. I remember there was rumors about

1111
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:43,800
Speaker 1: you and Bibby. Anything you'd like to address there, Um, Gibby,

1112
00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:54,920
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think it she nice friendship, relationship

1113
00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:57,520
Speaker 1: you want to call it like it obviously ended on

1114
00:59:57,520 --> 01:00:00,000
Speaker 1: a sour note. She had what she wanted to say

1115
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:02,720
Speaker 1: about it, and it is what it is. I don't

1116
01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:05,800
Speaker 1: like to talk about people when they're not around or

1117
01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:07,960
Speaker 1: give my side of the story. And I'm sure she

1118
01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:12,640
Speaker 1: has her reasons. So those kind of stories come up

1119
01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:15,840
Speaker 1: a lot when you do involve yourself with Bachelor Nations.

1120
01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:18,840
Speaker 1: So now I've got to know, a couple of years distanced,

1121
01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:22,160
Speaker 1: would you think about doing Bachelor in Paradise again to

1122
01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:29,919
Speaker 1: find that person to amp up the business combination of both. No. Never,

1123
01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:32,600
Speaker 1: you will never be on a Bachelor franchise show again.

1124
01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:34,760
Speaker 1: I can't say that I want to do Bachelor in

1125
01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:38,520
Speaker 1: Paradise personally, especially knowing that, like the group of girls

1126
01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:41,120
Speaker 1: that were just on the show, we're all really young. Yeah,

1127
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:44,320
Speaker 1: you know, I'd like to date thirty and above if possible.

1128
01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:47,360
Speaker 1: The women would love to hear that out there, like

1129
01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:52,840
Speaker 1: that's fine. Um, but yeah, I don't think Bachroom Paradise

1130
01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:56,520
Speaker 1: is quite my thing. Gotcha nothing again, I just don't

1131
01:00:56,600 --> 01:01:00,800
Speaker 1: see myself being successful on there. Why did you back

1132
01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:04,240
Speaker 1: out of Winter Games? Because the ladies were waiting for you?

1133
01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:08,360
Speaker 1: That was like the buzz about town at that parade.

1134
01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:10,320
Speaker 1: They're like, okay, but wait a second, is Peter gonna

1135
01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:11,960
Speaker 1: like show about the house or something? Because we all

1136
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:14,520
Speaker 1: came here because Peter was supposed to be here. Hey,

1137
01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:18,600
Speaker 1: I was there too. They all knew you were still

1138
01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:22,560
Speaker 1: wounded bad and not running. Then I actually just saw

1139
01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:27,640
Speaker 1: some random like clip of your leaving. Oh wow, that

1140
01:01:27,720 --> 01:01:30,400
Speaker 1: was an emotional moment that was heavy for like real

1141
01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:34,440
Speaker 1: life heavy, like yeah, that's it was like that in

1142
01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:36,840
Speaker 1: front of everybody that takes a lot of balls. Yeah.

1143
01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:40,040
Speaker 1: It was like one of the weirdest, most like emotionally

1144
01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:42,160
Speaker 1: charged moments in my life. And it happened on like

1145
01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:44,600
Speaker 1: a crazy little bachelor show. I don't get it, but

1146
01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:49,280
Speaker 1: it still happened. Sometimes it comes out at the most

1147
01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:52,280
Speaker 1: moments and you just gotta follow it. And what happened.

1148
01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:53,760
Speaker 1: It's good. It's been good for me. It was like

1149
01:01:53,800 --> 01:01:56,560
Speaker 1: a stick in the ground moment. So where where were

1150
01:01:56,600 --> 01:01:59,360
Speaker 1: you at? Where were you? So I actually said yes

1151
01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:02,520
Speaker 1: to it, and I think it's just like a couple

1152
01:02:02,560 --> 01:02:05,200
Speaker 1: of days before we were supposed to leave, they text

1153
01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:08,200
Speaker 1: me like, um, change your plans. You're not invited anymore.

1154
01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:12,000
Speaker 1: What in the world. Yeah, So that was the end

1155
01:02:12,040 --> 01:02:13,520
Speaker 1: of that, and I just looked at my text like

1156
01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:17,400
Speaker 1: I don't know what I did, but okay, you still

1157
01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:22,360
Speaker 1: don't have any clue. No clue. Um. My personal opinion

1158
01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:26,240
Speaker 1: it was that Ari was the bachelor at the time,

1159
01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:30,040
Speaker 1: and because I was the guy that you know was

1160
01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:34,280
Speaker 1: being talked about as another opportunity to be bastlar I guess,

1161
01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:35,720
Speaker 1: or it could have been bash or what it is.

1162
01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:39,240
Speaker 1: Maybe they just didn't want the conversation to even be had.

1163
01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:41,120
Speaker 1: They just wanted to nip it in the button, you

1164
01:02:41,200 --> 01:02:42,600
Speaker 1: know with That was just my own personal opinion. I

1165
01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:45,360
Speaker 1: have no clue. Maybe I paid somebody off in some way,

1166
01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:50,600
Speaker 1: or maybe they heard something. I have no clue. Wow,

1167
01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:52,640
Speaker 1: which I'm glad it didn't go because you guys were

1168
01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:55,120
Speaker 1: literally like ice skating the whole time. Oh, I think

1169
01:02:55,160 --> 01:02:57,120
Speaker 1: you would have had fun with the skiing and stuff.

1170
01:02:57,160 --> 01:02:59,840
Speaker 1: You would have blown everyone out of the water, well will,

1171
01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:02,400
Speaker 1: I don't know. Ben was pretty good actually, and so

1172
01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:08,760
Speaker 1: was Dean. But I'm not a snow person. I don't

1173
01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:15,000
Speaker 1: go on snow very well. I would have been crushed. Okay, Peter,

1174
01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:18,680
Speaker 1: you're missed by Dean and myself. And I know you

1175
01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:21,760
Speaker 1: and Dean are still good buddies and uh still h

1176
01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:24,040
Speaker 1: he You know he considers you one of his best friends,

1177
01:03:24,040 --> 01:03:27,520
Speaker 1: and um, I know you keep in touch. Peter. We

1178
01:03:27,640 --> 01:03:30,640
Speaker 1: end every in depth episode with two things. One is

1179
01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:34,320
Speaker 1: we allow you to just monologue here and share with

1180
01:03:34,360 --> 01:03:36,720
Speaker 1: our audience, who's listening, anything that we missed, anything you

1181
01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:38,520
Speaker 1: want to share with them who are listening, and just

1182
01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:39,840
Speaker 1: kind of want to catch up in your life. And

1183
01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:42,080
Speaker 1: then actually always ends in a really fun way with

1184
01:03:42,200 --> 01:03:45,720
Speaker 1: a rapid fire round Peter for the next minute or

1185
01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:49,120
Speaker 1: however long you would take. Thirty seconds, the stage is yours,

1186
01:03:49,160 --> 01:03:51,960
Speaker 1: the audience is listening. Say whatever it is that you want.

1187
01:03:53,480 --> 01:03:57,120
Speaker 1: The first thing that comes to mind is saying thank you. Um,

1188
01:03:57,160 --> 01:03:59,800
Speaker 1: you know, after they came and actually shot my home

1189
01:03:59,880 --> 01:04:02,840
Speaker 1: to own stuff for Winter Games, I got to talk

1190
01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:05,080
Speaker 1: to producer's face face, and I think it's the first

1191
01:04:05,120 --> 01:04:10,960
Speaker 1: time I ever got to say thank you for the experience, um,

1192
01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:14,400
Speaker 1: you know, reach out to Rachel and social media and

1193
01:04:14,400 --> 01:04:18,000
Speaker 1: just said thank you via Twitter for the experience. And

1194
01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:22,800
Speaker 1: it was genuinely life changing for the better in so

1195
01:04:22,840 --> 01:04:24,880
Speaker 1: many ways. Like I was saying with Vegas, like I

1196
01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:28,280
Speaker 1: honestly had so much fun. I was front row to

1197
01:04:28,360 --> 01:04:31,200
Speaker 1: see Halsey to the point where my body was shaking

1198
01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:33,840
Speaker 1: from the beat, and she made eye contact with me.

1199
01:04:33,880 --> 01:04:36,280
Speaker 1: I just like, this is the craziest experience in my life, Like,

1200
01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:43,240
Speaker 1: oh my god, BB, Yeah, she's awesome. We actually talked

1201
01:04:43,240 --> 01:04:45,040
Speaker 1: back and forth just for fun for a little while

1202
01:04:45,040 --> 01:04:50,560
Speaker 1: and like she's great. Um yeah, it's just it's been

1203
01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:54,440
Speaker 1: such a life changing experience to like even now to

1204
01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:57,560
Speaker 1: this day, I get recognized all over the place. People

1205
01:04:58,160 --> 01:05:02,880
Speaker 1: support me just because of that show. Um it allowed

1206
01:05:02,920 --> 01:05:04,560
Speaker 1: me to build a social media where I was able

1207
01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:06,760
Speaker 1: to put all that money away into open up my

1208
01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:08,280
Speaker 1: gym for the first time, a dream I had had

1209
01:05:08,320 --> 01:05:14,760
Speaker 1: for ten years. Um it filled the gym for the

1210
01:05:14,800 --> 01:05:16,480
Speaker 1: first month. Like the majority of people that came to

1211
01:05:16,520 --> 01:05:18,520
Speaker 1: the gym, I will not lie about it. We're probably

1212
01:05:18,520 --> 01:05:20,680
Speaker 1: just fans of the show, and so they came and

1213
01:05:22,520 --> 01:05:24,280
Speaker 1: supported and all the boot camps that I go down,

1214
01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:26,280
Speaker 1: it's all because that show. Like all these people that

1215
01:05:26,320 --> 01:05:29,320
Speaker 1: come and see you becomes that show, And like, granted,

1216
01:05:29,360 --> 01:05:30,760
Speaker 1: I hope they get to know me and see who

1217
01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:32,520
Speaker 1: I am as a person. They enjoy me as a

1218
01:05:32,520 --> 01:05:33,880
Speaker 1: person to want to be a part of my life

1219
01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:35,880
Speaker 1: because of who I am, not just because of the show.

1220
01:05:35,960 --> 01:05:38,120
Speaker 1: But they wouldn't have had that opportunity to see that

1221
01:05:38,200 --> 01:05:42,240
Speaker 1: if it weren't for it. So I'm eternally grateful for

1222
01:05:42,360 --> 01:05:45,960
Speaker 1: the opportunity and for Rachel keeping me An around as

1223
01:05:45,960 --> 01:05:52,200
Speaker 1: long as she did. Um, Yeah, it was. It's a

1224
01:05:52,240 --> 01:05:56,480
Speaker 1: life changing experience. M Well, thanks for sharing, man, I

1225
01:05:56,520 --> 01:06:09,120
Speaker 1: really appreciated. Alright, ready for rapid fire? Why not, let's

1226
01:06:09,120 --> 01:06:12,280
Speaker 1: do it. What's the favorite what's your favorite delivery you've

1227
01:06:12,320 --> 01:06:18,760
Speaker 1: been getting since quarantined? Zero? Actually no delivery, no deliveries.

1228
01:06:19,240 --> 01:06:22,640
Speaker 1: What's your favorite thing to make in the kitchen since quarantine?

1229
01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:25,160
Speaker 1: I make a lot of tacos, tacos, all of the

1230
01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:28,240
Speaker 1: taco pizzas. I really like tacos in any form. This

1231
01:06:28,320 --> 01:06:33,680
Speaker 1: sounds good me too. Who's your celebrity crush? Oh, celebrity crush?

1232
01:06:33,800 --> 01:06:36,840
Speaker 1: I have no clue right now, pass because I don't know.

1233
01:06:37,600 --> 01:06:42,800
Speaker 1: Do you have a celebrity man crush? Dean? Okay, Well

1234
01:06:42,840 --> 01:06:45,160
Speaker 1: that leads into my next question, which is probably the

1235
01:06:45,200 --> 01:06:49,280
Speaker 1: same answer. Bachelor guy who you'd like to steal some

1236
01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:52,400
Speaker 1: swag from? Well, obviously, like Tyler has been the top

1237
01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:54,720
Speaker 1: of the town for a while now, and he and

1238
01:06:54,760 --> 01:06:57,160
Speaker 1: I actually chatted, and he's an awesome guy. He's super nice,

1239
01:06:58,640 --> 01:07:00,880
Speaker 1: got a good head on his shoulders, So I just

1240
01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:03,640
Speaker 1: give him props. What was the last conversation you had

1241
01:07:03,680 --> 01:07:06,360
Speaker 1: with your dog? Because I heard that you guys have

1242
01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:11,840
Speaker 1: been talking. Uh, probably to just take a second and

1243
01:07:11,880 --> 01:07:13,800
Speaker 1: actually take a dump. She just like walks around the

1244
01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:17,440
Speaker 1: circle's constantly, So you please just sit still for a

1245
01:07:17,480 --> 01:07:24,320
Speaker 1: second and go to that. Who's the last person you texted? Actually, Iggy,

1246
01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:26,040
Speaker 1: Dean and Alex we're in a group thread right now,

1247
01:07:27,280 --> 01:07:34,720
Speaker 1: blown up as texts. Okay, And what's a show that

1248
01:07:34,760 --> 01:07:39,000
Speaker 1: you've been been watching during during Turing Paradise and Turn Quarantine.

1249
01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:43,440
Speaker 1: So it's on Disney Pluss called Mandalorian. Oh okay, you're

1250
01:07:43,480 --> 01:07:47,160
Speaker 1: Star Wars fan that show. If you haven't seen it,

1251
01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:49,000
Speaker 1: you have got to walk. Yeah. I think Jo would

1252
01:07:49,120 --> 01:07:51,600
Speaker 1: really like it. So who's your verite Star Wars character?

1253
01:07:51,680 --> 01:07:55,200
Speaker 1: What's your favorite episode of the franchise? Good question. I

1254
01:07:55,200 --> 01:07:57,120
Speaker 1: think all those recent movies that they've just come up

1255
01:07:57,160 --> 01:08:00,960
Speaker 1: with are exceptional. Kylo Ren is one of the coolest characters,

1256
01:08:00,960 --> 01:08:03,160
Speaker 1: and the fact that I won't like spoiler, but how

1257
01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:06,360
Speaker 1: his character changes towards the end of the movies is awesome.

1258
01:08:06,680 --> 01:08:09,720
Speaker 1: Oh oh my god. Yeah. I mean, Jared thought that

1259
01:08:09,760 --> 01:08:11,960
Speaker 1: it was gonna be hard to get me into these

1260
01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:14,640
Speaker 1: new episodes, but I'm like Jared Kyler run and that

1261
01:08:14,720 --> 01:08:18,000
Speaker 1: love story, the sexual tension that leads that lasts for

1262
01:08:18,120 --> 01:08:21,120
Speaker 1: so many hours I'm in the Only thing I won't

1263
01:08:21,120 --> 01:08:24,519
Speaker 1: recommend is watching episodes like one through three and not good. Well,

1264
01:08:24,560 --> 01:08:27,000
Speaker 1: you know, Hayden Christensen for all of us girls out there,

1265
01:08:27,240 --> 01:08:28,759
Speaker 1: not bad to look at for a couple of hours.

1266
01:08:29,200 --> 01:08:32,240
Speaker 1: Good point. Alrighty, Well, is there anything you'd like to

1267
01:08:32,280 --> 01:08:37,439
Speaker 1: plug talk about Peter Crossfitness. Uh, talk about Peter Grosses. Uh.

1268
01:08:37,600 --> 01:08:40,360
Speaker 1: Check on my website. I do a live workout every

1269
01:08:40,439 --> 01:08:43,000
Speaker 1: day at noon. It's myself for one of my trainers

1270
01:08:43,720 --> 01:08:46,000
Speaker 1: and uh. We do live workouts at noon in Central

1271
01:08:46,040 --> 01:08:47,720
Speaker 1: time and they last for twenty four hours. You just

1272
01:08:47,760 --> 01:08:51,240
Speaker 1: got to sign up on Peter Crossfitness dot com. Sounds good.

1273
01:08:51,520 --> 01:08:53,680
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for for doing this. It's been

1274
01:08:53,720 --> 01:08:57,960
Speaker 1: really fun. Yeah, Peter Aston, I always want to like

1275
01:08:58,040 --> 01:09:00,760
Speaker 1: we're very appreciative of anybody sits down and trusts us

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Speaker 1: thank you, of course, thanks for having me. Thank you

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Speaker 1: so much. I feel like people got to know you

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Speaker 1: so well for this good I'm glad. I'm sure there's

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Speaker 1: always more stories to be had, and there's everybody's opinions,

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Speaker 1: but it's good to share it from my side. Then

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Speaker 1: along here. Ashley and I always end these episodes in

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Speaker 1: the same way. You're gonna understand it, so just repeat

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Speaker 1: after us. Hey, with everybody listening out there, from the

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Speaker 1: Almost family again, I say, if you can comment or

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Speaker 1: review on iTunes, it would be super awesome for Ashley

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Speaker 1: and I to see that. If you appreciate this podcast,

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Speaker 1: make sure you tell us. If you don't, probably just

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Speaker 1: keep it yourself. H. With that, we've had Peter Krause

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Speaker 1: I've Been Been, I've been Actually I am Peter. Good enough, Hey,

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Speaker 1: we'll talk to you later. Followed the Benn and Ashley

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