1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:04,439 Speaker 1: Welcome everybody to the Monday edition of The Clay, Travis 2 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:08,719 Speaker 1: and Bucks Sexton Show. Much to discuss from over the weekend. 3 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: Mister Clay, I hope you are tanned, ready and rested. 4 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 2: Well here are you? 5 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:16,599 Speaker 1: No, you're not in Florida your Nashville's I don't know. 6 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 1: You can probably still be in Atlanta this afternoon for 7 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 1: the All Star Game festivities. We'll have some fun talking 8 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 1: about that. But I was here all weekend hanging out 9 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 1: with the boys, just having a good time. 10 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 2: About you, yah ay man. 11 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 3: Just catch it up on some of the things going 12 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 3: on on the interwebs right now, some pretty intense conversations 13 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 3: that are happening involving many of our friends from the 14 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 3: news and commentary side of things, So we can discuss 15 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:46,199 Speaker 3: some of that. 16 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 1: Also, there is now reporting that Donald Trump is going 17 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 1: to be escalating the support that we give to Ukraine 18 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: imminently to include offensive weapons and patriot missile system. 19 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 2: Trump is ticked off, you could put it that way. 20 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 1: He is ticked off at the games that Vladimir Putin 21 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:12,319 Speaker 1: has been playing. He says that Putin's very nice on 22 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:14,960 Speaker 1: the phone calls, but then is doing terrible things at night. 23 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:20,319 Speaker 1: And some fascinating reporting coming out about what modern drone 24 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 1: warfare Clay looks like. We have entered the phase now 25 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 1: where this is it is here, it is no longer 26 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:31,680 Speaker 1: something that is theoretical, and we can discuss some of that. 27 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: I think it's a fascinating change in how nation state 28 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 1: level combat is going to be engaged going forward. 29 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 2: Biden and the Auto Pen. I have a feeling Clay 30 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:43,919 Speaker 2: is excited about this one. 31 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 1: Biden and the Auto Pen and the New York Times 32 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 1: over the weekend a little more clean up on asle 33 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 1: Biden going on there, the headline not really not really matching. 34 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 2: Up with some of the story. 35 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 1: And then there's some continued to discussion a little bit 36 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: going on out there about transparency and the DOJ and 37 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 1: Epstein and the case and all of the above. So 38 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: with all of this in mind, Clay, Oh, we have 39 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 1: also Governor Brian Kemp of Georgia right will be with 40 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: us today, yes, talking about all the things Georgia. Also 41 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 1: the All Star the Baseball All Star Game. I do 42 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 1: not think I could name I do not think I 43 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 1: could name a baseball player in the All Star Game 44 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:33,360 Speaker 1: right now. So Japanese fellow, that's right, the Japanese fellow, 45 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 1: I could name him, that's it. So I'm pro Otani 46 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:38,920 Speaker 1: is my guy because he's the only one that I know. 47 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 1: And with that Clay, I've laid out the menu. I 48 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 1: was gonna let you order for where we dive in 49 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:47,799 Speaker 1: first here because there's there's so much to work through, 50 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 1: so much to discuss. To me, first of all, there 51 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 1: was a lot of stuff going on over the weekend, 52 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 1: and we're gonna hit it all. But to me, the 53 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 1: story dropping Sunday night in the New York Times with 54 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:07,119 Speaker 1: Joe Biden surrounding the auto pen and the Pardons. As 55 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 1: I was reading it, I was like, oh man, this 56 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 1: is a really big story, and I don't know how 57 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 1: many people have recognized it yet. But let me just 58 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:20,679 Speaker 1: give you a couple of details that to me give 59 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 1: an indication of how big this story could become. I 60 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 1: didn't realize this, but Joe Biden didn't do an interview 61 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 1: with The New York Times for his entire presidency. I mean, again, 62 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 1: if you were wondering about what they thought about his 63 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 1: cognitive ability. Whatever you want to say about the New 64 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 1: York Times, yes they are oftentimes communists, but the people 65 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: that they employ are not morons as writers. These people 66 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 1: are fairly intelligent. And the fact that they hid Biden 67 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 1: from them for his entire tenure, even though the New 68 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 1: York Times would have been in many ways propaganda for 69 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 1: the Biden regime. Remember, I would say one of the 70 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 1: most consequential articles the New York Times published on the 71 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 1: front page was Biden saying that he was upset with 72 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 1: Merrick Garland's pace and he wanted to see more charges 73 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 1: brought against Trump. That's basically using the New York Times 74 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:20,160 Speaker 1: to be the method by which you give your message. 75 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 1: While then you can say, oh, I never tell my 76 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 1: Attorney general what to say or what to do. Well, 77 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 1: you just did in the New York Times. Like he's 78 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:31,279 Speaker 1: going to read that, he's going to see it. So 79 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 1: the fact that he never did an actual interview is remarkable. 80 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 1: And then I read the interview excerpts, Buck, oh my goodness, 81 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:43,159 Speaker 1: and I would encourage I shared these. We need to 82 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:45,719 Speaker 1: link it at Clay and Buck, I would encourage all 83 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 1: of you to go read the interview excerpts from Biden 84 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 1: trying to explain how they use the auto pen for 85 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 1: all these pardons. That's point one point two the article itself, 86 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:03,479 Speaker 1: it is devastating to the Biden administration, even from the 87 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 1: New York Times. It makes me feel that there is 88 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 1: a full fledged panic inside of the Biden team. And 89 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:14,160 Speaker 1: I would add on more steam here if you are 90 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 1: listening and you are investigating this, Joe Biden had no 91 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:22,559 Speaker 1: idea who was being pardoned. They used the autopen. Even 92 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 1: in the quotes that he gave, he basically indicates that 93 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:28,600 Speaker 1: he didn't really know who was getting pardons. They were 94 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:33,159 Speaker 1: late night pardons. The people that Biden supposedly instructed to 95 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 1: give the pardons didn't even hear it themselves. A third 96 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:42,919 Speaker 1: party called up the autopen people and said, hey, Biden 97 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 1: said this is okay, and then they signed thousands of pardons. 98 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 1: This is a huge, holy crap moment for me. Again, 99 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:56,720 Speaker 1: I understand the autopen has been used before, but when 100 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 1: you read this article the New York Times wrote the 101 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 1: fact that they gave Biden in the interview with them, 102 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 1: there is I think a full fledged panic over potential 103 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 1: criminality relating to the way that these pardons went down. 104 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 2: No one's going to prison for this. 105 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:13,919 Speaker 1: You really think you really think there's going to be charges? 106 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 1: I mean, come on, really over pardons based on the 107 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 1: Biden he's a vegetable. We know he's a vegetable. They 108 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 1: were running the government without him. Do you think people 109 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 1: are worried about going to jail over this. I think 110 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 1: they're worried about being called to testify because it is 111 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 1: quite clear. I think, even based on this New York 112 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 1: Times article, that Biden had no idea who was getting pardoned. Well, 113 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:36,359 Speaker 1: the New York Times article is supposed to make it 114 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 1: seem like it wasn't that that it wasn't that bad. 115 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 1: I mean, you look at the headline. Right, the headline 116 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:46,600 Speaker 1: of it is that Biden says that he was aware, right, 117 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 1: I mean it's Biden says he made the clemency decisions 118 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 1: that were recorded with auto pen So Biden says that. 119 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:54,719 Speaker 1: But then what you're citing is the details of the 120 00:06:54,760 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 1: actual reporting. Seems like Biden wasn't really aware. But it's 121 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 1: gonna be enough. They wouldn't have put him. Here's my thought, Buck, 122 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:04,919 Speaker 1: and I'm curious of you. 123 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 2: It's not. 124 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 1: I think putting him on a call with the New 125 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 1: York Times for the first time in five years is 126 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 1: a sign that internally they're starting to panic about this. 127 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 1: And they wanted Biden. You know, first of all, putting 128 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 1: Biden on the call is a sign of desperation, and 129 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 1: the fact that you go read these quotes it actually 130 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 1: to me in many ways, even though the headline doesn't 131 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 1: suggest it, in many ways, it actually is worse for 132 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 1: them than if they had just said, oh, this is 133 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 1: all crazy, like Biden Biden was involved. The fact that 134 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 1: they went through these details actually shows you that he 135 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 1: wasn't really very involved. 136 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 2: That's what I mean. 137 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 1: They're trying to give you. The headline doesn't really match 138 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 1: the conclusion you would have from the actual reporting in 139 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: the piece, So they want people. What they're doing is 140 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 1: they're putting forward a story to make it seem like 141 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 1: this has been dealt with, and then they want you 142 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: to come away with a concl illusion that's not really 143 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 1: an evidence by the facts presented. Right, This is a 144 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 1: it's it's really a pretty effective or a tried and 145 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 1: true propaganda technique. 146 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 2: But I don't think. 147 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 1: Look, I could be wrong on this one, but I 148 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 1: don't think that anyone is worried about criminal charge. I 149 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 1: think there's a lot of embarrassment here for people that 150 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 1: worked around Biden. I think their careers are probably finished. 151 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 1: But what would the charge. You'd have to think the 152 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 1: charge would be like defrauding the American people of their 153 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 1: representatives of representative democracy or something. I mean, what or 154 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 1: you know of their republic. The fact that everybody has 155 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:39,439 Speaker 1: taken the fifth and that they're not lying again. I 156 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 1: understand some people are going to say, what do you 157 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 1: Somebody out there I think may have flipped. This is 158 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: my thought, and somebody is going to be a canary 159 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 1: and sing on all the cover up. Just sometimes you 160 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 1: have to want why would he take the fifth? Now, bureaucracy, 161 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 1: they're all going to point fingers, are going to say, 162 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 1: I did a little part of this, and he did 163 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 1: a little part of that attle bit of ancor take 164 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 1: the fifth. Well, it's easy for the doctor to take 165 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:09,559 Speaker 1: the fifth because he can just say I can't speak 166 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 1: about this. No. He could have just said, hey, under hippa, 167 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 1: I can't talk about all this. He was specifically taking 168 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 1: the fifth when he was asked if anyone told him 169 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:23,680 Speaker 1: basically to be involved in a conspiracy about Joe Biden's 170 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 1: overall health. I just look at all these signs. They 171 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 1: tried to run to the New York Times to try 172 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:31,959 Speaker 1: to put this autopen thing to bed, and instead I 173 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 1: think it has blown up and turned into a bigger story. 174 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 1: Now your point, and this is the larger context that 175 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 1: I think everybody out there is so frustrated about across 176 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 1: the board. We have all these people doing all these 177 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 1: illegal things, right, put it in whatever category you want 178 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 1: from it. Nobody gets in trouble all the way through 179 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 1: the entire Biden team, and there are never any. 180 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 2: There's no account for any Well. 181 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 1: This is why I don't want anyone getting excited that 182 00:09:58,120 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: like Biden's top advisors are going to prison. 183 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:01,599 Speaker 2: I'm here to tell you they're not okay. So just 184 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 2: Servan's clear. 185 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 1: Like maybe they're a little bit nervous, but that's not 186 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 1: going to We don't want to overpromise and underdeliver. And 187 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 1: with that in mind, Clay, with that in mind, I 188 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:14,719 Speaker 1: do think we should note the Trump truth from over 189 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:17,839 Speaker 1: the weekend on the Epstein situation. Do we want to 190 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:19,319 Speaker 1: get into this? I think we have to get into 191 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:22,959 Speaker 1: this a little bit because Trump, do you lead us off? Yes, 192 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 1: the Epstein people are still fired up and they were 193 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 1: very unhappy at Trump. We got ratioed for the first 194 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:34,199 Speaker 1: time ever on his truth social post with the comments 195 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 1: that he put out. It looks like no one's going anywhere, 196 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 1: Just to be clear, looks like there's no resignations imminent 197 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 1: from anyone in the FBI or the DOJ, Bondi, Bongino, Cash, Betel. 198 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 1: No one's going anywhere. That is the latest reporting. That 199 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 1: is the latest storyline. And here's Donald Trump himself writing 200 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 1: on his truth. What's going on with my boys and 201 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 1: in some cases gals. They're all going after Attorney General 202 00:10:56,840 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 1: Pam Bondi, who's doing a fantastic job. We're one team 203 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 1: MAGA and I don't like what's happening. We have a 204 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 1: perfect administration, the talk of the world, and selfish people 205 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 1: are trying to hurt it all over over a guy 206 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 1: who never dies Epstein. For years, it's Epstein over and over. 207 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 1: Why are we giving publicity to files written by Obama, 208 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 1: Crooked Hillary Comy Brennan and the losers and criminals of 209 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 1: the Biden administration who conned the world with Russia, Russia, Russia, 210 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:25,680 Speaker 1: Hoax fifty one intelligence agents, the Laptop from Hell and more. 211 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 1: They created the Epstein files just like they created the 212 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 1: fake Hillary Clinton Christopher Steele dossier. They used on me, 213 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 1: and now my so called friends are playing right into 214 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 1: their hands. Why didn't these radical left lunatics release the 215 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 1: Epstein files? Sorry, guys, this is long. It is a 216 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:42,559 Speaker 1: long truth. If there was anything in there that could 217 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 1: have hurt MAGA, why didn't they use it? They haven't 218 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 1: even given up on JFK or MLK files. No matter 219 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:49,959 Speaker 1: how much success we have, et cetera, et cetera. A 220 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 1: lot about success. We're saving our country, making America great again. 221 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 1: The left is imploding cash bet on. The FBI must 222 00:11:56,520 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 1: be focused on voter fraud Political Corruption Act sorry actblued 223 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:04,680 Speaker 1: the stolen election of twenty twenty, and not on the 224 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 1: inspired documents on Jeffrey Epstein. 225 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:11,560 Speaker 2: Let Pam Bondi do her job. She's great, thank you. 226 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 1: Let's keep it that way and not waste time and 227 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 1: energy on Jeffrey Epstein, somebody that nobody cares about. Thank 228 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 1: you for your attention in this matter. Donald J. Trump, 229 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 1: you're a president. That's what he wrote over the weekend. 230 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 1: So yes, just just sharing with you what he wrote. 231 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:29,080 Speaker 1: So looks like there's no all that stuff about I'll 232 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 1: resign if someone else doesn't resign. Doesn't look like that's happening. 233 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 1: So no one's resigning. And I think that the plan 234 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: right now is let's talk about trade deals or something. 235 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 2: I don't know. This is what I'm missing something. 236 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 1: I think Trump has let you know that he has 237 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 1: got cash Patel, Dan Bongino, and Pam Bondi's back, that 238 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 1: he doesn't want any of them gone, and that he 239 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 1: likes the team that he has put together. And he 240 00:12:55,920 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 1: thinks the Epstein entire story is a is a distraction 241 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:03,560 Speaker 1: from things that he thinks are far more significant that 242 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 1: fair characterization of what he said over the weekend. And 243 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 1: so you know, I've we've been trying to thread this 244 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 1: needle of what is true, what we don't know, we know, 245 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 1: the no unknowns, the unknown unknowns. Where we are on 246 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 1: this one and I don't know. I'm happy that at 247 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:26,680 Speaker 1: least there is a robust conversation going on within the movement. 248 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:30,679 Speaker 1: How about that there's a robust discussion that is happening 249 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 1: on the issue. 250 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 2: But I can't. 251 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 1: I don't have power. You don't have power to do 252 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:39,680 Speaker 1: anything about these files. That's the correct I don't have them. 253 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 1: You don't have them. I haven't seen them. 254 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 2: You haven't seen them. We think people should see them 255 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:47,559 Speaker 2: if they're there. If the people who have them say 256 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 2: they aren't there, what are we going to do about it. 257 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 1: This is where we are left with things, no doubt, 258 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 1: and we'll take some calls. People may feel strongly about this. 259 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 1: Trust some people might, I think, but a couple. 260 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. 261 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 1: Trump is basically saying, hey, this is a distraction. There's 262 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 1: a lot of other things that I want to focus on, 263 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 1: and we'll take some calls. We'll react to that. Again. 264 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 1: The Governor of Georgia, I think this is significant culturally. 265 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 1: Remember Joe Biden said, Hey, the state of Georgia put 266 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 1: in place Jimmy Eagle laws. They pulled the All Star 267 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 1: Game out of Atlanta over this, and the Governor of 268 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 1: Georgia has really he's fired up about this. I think 269 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 1: you're going to enjoy what Brian Camp has to say 270 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 1: on this front. At the top of the next hour, 271 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 1: we'll take your calls. We'll break down all this and more. 272 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 1: In the meantime, International Fellowship of Christians and Jews large 273 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 1: presence in Israel to serve the ongoing need for assistance 274 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 1: right now. Situation is historically fragile and urgent. Israeli neighborhoods 275 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 1: have been destroyed, lives lost, untold more have been injured, 276 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 1: Whether in peacetime or war. People of Israel know an 277 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 1: overwhelming number of ballistic missiles could fall at any moment 278 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 1: from many different adversaries. When the sirens sound, they have 279 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 1: less than a minute to reach a bomb shelter. Israelis 280 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 1: don't have enough bomb shelters, though. 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We claim your sanity with Clay and funding. 290 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 1: Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you 291 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:48,119 Speaker 1: get your podcasts. Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. 292 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 1: We're breaking down all of the big weekend News. One 293 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 1: of the things that was said. We talked about Friday show, 294 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 1: dan Bongino not going to work, storming out over anger 295 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 1: associated with Attorney General Pambondi and the communication surrounding the 296 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 1: Epstein related investigations. This is Trump talking about his conversation 297 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 1: with Dan Bongino yesterday. Let's listen. 298 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 4: I did. 299 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 2: I spoke to him today. Dan Bongino, very good guy. 300 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 4: I've done him a long time. 301 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 5: I've done his show many many times, and he sounded terrific. 302 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 2: Actually, no, I think he's in good shack. 303 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 1: So it sounds like we'll find out again. We'll update 304 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 1: you as we learn more. It sounds like the team 305 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 1: is basically staying together and Trump is saying, hey, and 306 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 1: maybe we need to talk about this a bit more. 307 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 1: Trump is saying, hey, there's nothing here. Roger Stone talked 308 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 1: over the weekend Buck. Maybe we can play this. I 309 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 1: just sent it into the team. Roger Stone obviously very 310 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 1: connected with a do we have time? Let's play this. 311 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:04,120 Speaker 1: Roger Stone says, hey, I think all the docks got destroyed. 312 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 5: Listen when Cash Patel, our FBI director, tells us that 313 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:12,479 Speaker 5: there are no records, even though we know and we 314 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 5: saw with our own eyes that DVDs and hard drives 315 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:22,679 Speaker 5: were taken from Epstein's home in both New York, his 316 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 5: ranch in New Mexico, and his island. He's telling us 317 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 5: the truth. That's because I believe that evidence was destroyed 318 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 5: by Christopher Ray and the Biden Justice Department. 319 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:38,639 Speaker 1: Okay, so we'll talk about this when we come back. 320 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 1: I think that's an interesting theory. They're telling you the truth. 321 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 1: There is nothing here. What do you do if that 322 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:48,359 Speaker 1: is true? We'll talk about it when we come back. 323 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 1: In the meantime, Price picks makes watching live sports much 324 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 1: more fun. Download it today. Major League Baseball Home run 325 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:58,479 Speaker 1: Derby always really fun to watch. Going on tonight in 326 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 1: Atlanta tomorrow. Major League Baseball All Star Game. 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So I would 342 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:52,119 Speaker 1: like to spend some time today with all of you 343 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 1: talking about how to avoid getting deeper and deeper into 344 00:18:56,840 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 1: Ukraine and the possibility of Russian nuclear exchange, which we 345 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:03,439 Speaker 1: have been worried about for a long time, and I 346 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 1: think there's some concern to be had here. 347 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:07,639 Speaker 2: I also want to talk about immigration. 348 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 1: And the raids and what's going on with that, and 349 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 1: particularly what it says that you have democrats opposing law 350 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 1: enforcement being able to shield their identities during these raids, 351 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 1: and what that says about our society. But I will 352 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:25,440 Speaker 1: lay this out first, because Clay and I keep talking 353 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:27,919 Speaker 1: about it. It will not surprise any of you, I think, 354 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 1: to know that every phone call, rather every line is 355 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 1: currently lit and everyone wants to talk to us more 356 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 1: about Epstein, and that our inbox is currently flooded with 357 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:44,920 Speaker 1: more conversation, are more thoughts about Epstein, And here's where 358 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 1: I am on this. We're going to continue to follow 359 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:51,679 Speaker 1: this as we can as there are new developments right now. 360 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:54,639 Speaker 1: Here's where we stand or here's where the situation stands. 361 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 1: It does not look like there will be any senior 362 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 1: level firing or resignation from the Department of Justice. Keep 363 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 1: in mind, the FBI director is actually a subordinate employee 364 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 1: to the Attorney General. I think people lost that a 365 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:09,360 Speaker 1: little bit in this conversation. So there is a chain 366 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:13,120 Speaker 1: of command issue here. And technically Dan Bongino is as 367 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:17,440 Speaker 1: deputy obviously a suborted employee to the FBI director as well, 368 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 1: So there is a chain of command. And it's not 369 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 1: like the FBI director can say, hey, I want to 370 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:26,680 Speaker 1: fire the attorney general. This is purely a presidential prerogative 371 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 1: of President Trump. President Trump put out that long I 372 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 1: didn't even read the whole thing to you, because we're 373 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:34,399 Speaker 1: going to run into a commercial break a long truth 374 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 1: over the weekend, and he's saying he loves the people 375 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 1: who are in charge of this so far. You know, 376 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:42,880 Speaker 1: he loves them as people. I'm not saying he loves 377 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 1: everything that they've done, but he backs them one hundred percent, 378 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 1: and it's time to move on to more important things. 379 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:51,639 Speaker 1: I think that's going to be an unsatisfactory answer to 380 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:54,159 Speaker 1: a lot of people, and I understand why that is 381 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:58,400 Speaker 1: an unsatisfactory response to a lot of people. The challenge 382 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 1: we have right now is I don't have I don't 383 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:05,920 Speaker 1: know how to Clay advance this story beyond things we've 384 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 1: already said here, which is I still believe, and I've 385 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:10,679 Speaker 1: said this from day one, and I said this the 386 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:14,879 Speaker 1: moment the memo was released publicly that Epstein was involved 387 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 1: in blackmail operations. 388 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:19,119 Speaker 2: I still believe that there is the possibility. 389 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 1: That Epstein had not just contact, but perhaps even was 390 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:24,399 Speaker 1: acting as an agent of Now keep in mind, Clay, 391 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 1: this sounds like a minor distinction, but I don't think 392 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 1: it is. When someone says, for example, they're a CIA agent, 393 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 1: that's usually a huge tell that they have no idea 394 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 1: what they're talking about. Because if you work for the CIA, 395 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:39,679 Speaker 1: you are a CIA officer. But if you are working 396 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 1: on behalf of then you are an agent of Right, 397 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 1: So this is in spy talk, when someone is your agent, 398 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:51,640 Speaker 1: they are actually working to bring you information, espionage, etc. 399 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 1: So when someone says that he may be an agent of, 400 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 1: I mean, it's one thing to say that Epstein was 401 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:00,920 Speaker 1: an employee of a foreign intelligence organization. It would be 402 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,399 Speaker 1: which would be an officer of. It's another thing to 403 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:06,920 Speaker 1: say he was an agent of, meaning he had contact with, 404 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 1: was feeding information too, was perhaps involved in a blackmail 405 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 1: s game, whatever it may be. Right, So though that 406 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 1: that is an important distinction because that is how intel 407 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:17,359 Speaker 1: agencies all around the world work. There's you are an 408 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 1: employee of, and there is you are working on behalf of, 409 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 1: not the same thing. Espionage is all based upon that 410 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:27,680 Speaker 1: officer agent relationship, no matter where you are. So that's 411 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:29,640 Speaker 1: that's one part of this. So I still believe that's possible. 412 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 1: The challenge we have right now is there's information that 413 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 1: I haven't seen that Clay hasn't seen. We were told 414 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 1: it would be. And I promise you I want to 415 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 1: I want to get into some of the news of 416 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 1: the day stuff here in a second, but I just 417 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 1: want us to be very clear and Clay, I'm going 418 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 1: to hand this to you to make sure that I 419 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:47,439 Speaker 1: didn't misrepresent or leave anything out. The challenge here is 420 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 1: I haven't seen what the FBI fully has UH and 421 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 1: the DEOJ it's really DJ. We shouldn't say what the 422 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:56,399 Speaker 1: DJ has. Clay hasn't seen it. We have no access 423 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 1: to it. The people who do say that there is 424 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:04,199 Speaker 1: no nothing that should be released. Additionally, right now that 425 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 1: is in the public interest. Now do we believe Clay 426 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:14,200 Speaker 1: or do people believe that Trump, Patel, Bongino, and Bondi 427 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:18,120 Speaker 1: are lying about this? That's really I don't know where 428 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 1: else we are. You know, we can either say that 429 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:24,200 Speaker 1: we think these people are honest and and there is 430 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 1: a degree of public faith in them, even though there 431 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 1: have been pr screw ups on this, which I think 432 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 1: there was over promising of the transparency. 433 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 2: There's no question. But at this point it's who is lying? 434 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:37,360 Speaker 2: Who is lying about this? 435 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:39,199 Speaker 1: Is what I want to know. Who who is the 436 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 1: one who is lying? I won't say because I don't know, 437 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 1: and I don't believe that any of these people are 438 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:48,119 Speaker 1: specifically in a position where they should be accused of 439 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:51,360 Speaker 1: being the one who is not honest in this. I mean, 440 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:54,679 Speaker 1: because obviously the stakes are very high, and that's what 441 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 1: I see what am I missing? 442 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:56,639 Speaker 2: Or how do you see it? 443 00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:02,439 Speaker 1: I would say that in the Trump base there have 444 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 1: been three issues where I would say people have gotten 445 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 1: really in disagreement. Right Like Democrats right now attack Trump 446 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 1: for trying to deport people. Most Trump voters want everybody 447 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,639 Speaker 1: to be It's like they're doing advertisements for Trump every time. 448 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 2: They're like, look at all these illegals being deported, like yes, 449 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 2: more yes. 450 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 1: So I think that is something where most of you 451 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:25,879 Speaker 1: out there would say, yeah, we agree with this, Okay. 452 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 1: So there's a wide spectrum of political belief. Some people 453 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 1: are big RFK maha mom listeners right now right there 454 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 1: is actually a big tent. I would say, in my experience, 455 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 1: I'm curious if you would sign off on this. The 456 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,399 Speaker 1: biggest discrepancy that I have seen. And I know you 457 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,920 Speaker 1: felt this even in the Republican Party, even in Trump 458 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 1: supporters in the early days when you and I were 459 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 1: like open up everything, like we've got to get back, 460 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 1: we can't shut down for COVID, people were mad at us. 461 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 1: Inside even of the Trump tent, right, there were a 462 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 1: lot of people out there that were like, you're crazy. 463 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,640 Speaker 1: Do you remember Tucker Carlson back in the day, got 464 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 1: in a car, drove to mar A Lago and convinced 465 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,439 Speaker 1: Trump to shut down the whole country like it was horrible, 466 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,399 Speaker 1: Which was a horrible decision, but it was made in 467 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:11,640 Speaker 1: good faith. But it was a very bad decision. Yes, 468 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:15,120 Speaker 1: I think Trump was wrong on COVID March April May 469 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 1: of twenty twenty. And I've said that for a long time. 470 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 1: And then I think he worked his way towards opening 471 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:22,640 Speaker 1: the country back up. I think he listened to file 472 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 1: chie Burks. The reason why I'm going back in time 473 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 1: is it was incredibly contentious to say what you said. 474 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:30,119 Speaker 1: I remember when you were like, hey, we need to 475 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:33,440 Speaker 1: open everything up by Easter, and everybody called you thanos right, 476 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 1: They said you wanted half of people all day. 477 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 2: That that was the line I got. 478 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:38,919 Speaker 1: I got ratioed harder for wanting the country to be 479 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,679 Speaker 1: back open normal by Easter than I've ever been online 480 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 1: in my entire life. 481 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 2: Yes, that is what happened. 482 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 1: And when I was already I was right by the way, 483 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:48,159 Speaker 1: and I should have tripled and quadrupled down, but I 484 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 1: was like overwhelmed by the swarm, by the hive mind 485 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 1: when I said, hey, we got to play sports. We 486 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 1: got to open schools back up, we got to play 487 00:25:56,000 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 1: football on my sports show. I mean, I was attacked 488 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:05,200 Speaker 1: like never before. And frankly, I think the vast majority 489 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 1: of people, including many Trump supporters, thought that I was 490 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 1: crazy and a moron and couldn't believe that was the 491 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:12,200 Speaker 1: argument I was gonna make. The reason I'm using this 492 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:15,159 Speaker 1: as a backdrop is there was a wide variety of 493 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,399 Speaker 1: opinions and a lot of people disagreed with what you 494 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 1: and I said. Then DeSantis versus Trump, DeSantis versus Trump. 495 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 1: Now everybody forgets about it. But on this show, it 496 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:28,400 Speaker 1: was nasty if we said anything positive about DeSantis as 497 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:30,920 Speaker 1: the governor. Some of the Trump people were angry if 498 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 1: we said anything positive about Trump. Some of the DeSantis 499 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:36,920 Speaker 1: people were angry. In the mentions, it was nasty. Now 500 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 1: they're best buds, they're hugging. Everybody's back to being on 501 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 1: Tree told everybody would happen, by the way, and we 502 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 1: were getting scoffed at then. 503 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 2: But that is where it went. 504 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:49,880 Speaker 1: Where I would say now is the Epstein stuff is nasty, uh, 505 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,359 Speaker 1: And I mean the reaction to it, right, So I 506 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,920 Speaker 1: think ultimately this comes down to one big question okay, 507 00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 1: either you believe. And I put up a poll question 508 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:00,439 Speaker 1: on this, and I think it was like seventy thirty. 509 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 1: I'm just going to be transparent. I don't know that 510 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:06,200 Speaker 1: that's reflective of this audience necessarily, but buck, I put 511 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:10,639 Speaker 1: up a poll question, do you believe that Trump, Bondi, Bongino, 512 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 1: and Cash Patel that quad are lying about the Bongino files. 513 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 1: Seventy percent of you in that poll said that you did. 514 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,680 Speaker 1: And there's like forty some odd thousand people voting, Oh, 515 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,399 Speaker 1: seventy percent. I think they're lying. I think they're lying. 516 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 1: I don't doesn't there's nothing wrong with disagreeing. I am 517 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:35,679 Speaker 1: telling you. I don't think Trump took a bullet, nearly 518 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:39,919 Speaker 1: got bankrupted, was facing prison in life so that he 519 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 1: could become president again and cover for cover for Epstein. 520 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:48,119 Speaker 1: I think what Roger Stone said may very well be 521 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 1: true if there had been evidence inside of the government 522 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:55,639 Speaker 1: files of wrongdoing. I don't think it exists now. So 523 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 1: I understand this may be a minority opinion for everybody 524 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 1: out there listening. I do not believe Trump, Bondi, Bongino, 525 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,720 Speaker 1: and Cash Betel are lying. I just don't can I 526 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,239 Speaker 1: so I some of you have probably seen this. I 527 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 1: was on my friend Sean Ryan's show, I think in 528 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, and the one clip that went quite 529 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 1: viral from that was when I described the absurd situation 530 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 1: of the FBI's search of the sixty million dollar townhouse 531 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:30,160 Speaker 1: on the upper east side of Epstein in twenty nineteen, 532 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 1: where the FBI broke in and found these They broke 533 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:36,880 Speaker 1: I mean when I say broke in, they obviously did 534 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 1: a you know, subpoenut search. But they went in and 535 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 1: they broke into a safe that was hidden in a wall, 536 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 1: and they did not take nor safeguard that information. All right, 537 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 1: this is all public record, This is court record. This 538 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 1: is not you know, you notice. I want to speak 539 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 1: about what we know, not what I think. What I 540 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 1: think is there was a blackmail operation going on. What 541 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 1: I think is that Epstein certainly offered this to foreign intelligence. 542 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 1: But I don't know that. I can't prove that, so 543 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 1: I don't go down that pathway too far. I leave 544 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 1: open the possibility of new evidence. But what I do know, Clay, 545 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 1: is that the FBI had access to stuff in a safe, 546 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 1: and then they left it there, and then they came 547 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 1: back and it was gone, it was gone again. You 548 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,480 Speaker 1: can check this in the court record now they say 549 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 1: that they then the FBI reached out to the Epstein 550 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:35,240 Speaker 1: estate attorney who said, oh, I have all that stuff 551 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 1: or I took that stuff or something like that. I'll 552 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:42,280 Speaker 1: bring it back to you, no problem. Well, gee, everybody, now, 553 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 1: now it seems what the story is is that, say, 554 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 1: the tapes or rather the things that are sort of 555 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 1: you know, the media information that's out there is that 556 00:29:54,200 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 1: that stuff was entirely child pornography downloaded off of the internet. 557 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 1: That doesn't actually go to the specifics of the ring, 558 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 1: the blackmail ring, the case, right, it's just illegal stuff 559 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,239 Speaker 1: that'll get you. It's aintal, heinous and demonic and I'll 560 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:10,720 Speaker 1: get you locked up for the rest of your life. 561 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 1: But it doesn't go to the is that really credible 562 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 1: though he's keeping that stuff, of all the things he's doing, 563 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 1: he's keeping that stuff in a locked safe in his wall, 564 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 1: and not the you know, and how can we know? 565 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 1: My point here at being that was twenty nineteen, that 566 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 1: information was out of FBI custody by the FBI's own admission, 567 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 1: and brought back at a later time. Does it strike 568 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 1: anybody as impossible that maybe different information, you know, that 569 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 1: certain things could have been removed or certain things could 570 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 1: have been changed on those tapes at some point in time. 571 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 1: I mean, this is where I say, wasn't an FBI 572 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:50,080 Speaker 1: custody right, So, but that doesn't mean that Cash and 573 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 1: Dan are in on it, right. 574 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 2: This is the point. 575 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:57,240 Speaker 1: What they have is not necessarily what existed. It's about 576 00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 1: what they can prove, not what they can think. And 577 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 1: that's one hundred percent right. Six years ago now, Epstein 578 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 1: killed himself this investigation. We haven't even talked much about 579 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 1: Epstein on this show. Candidly, I haven't spent much time 580 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 1: on the Epstein story period because I was doing sports. 581 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 1: Like I bet if you went back through the transcripts, 582 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 1: the amount of time we spent on Epstein on this 583 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 1: show is minimal because by the time we took this 584 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 1: show over, he was dead. You know, we've talked about 585 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 1: it occasionally as different little revelations have come out. This 586 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 1: thing started in two thousand and five. I don't know 587 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:35,240 Speaker 1: that most people have really dove into this. The question 588 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 1: that I have is what did Acosta, who was the 589 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 1: prosecutor in South Florida who signed off on this sweetheart 590 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 1: deal all the way back in eight What did he 591 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 1: actually uncover in that initial investigation, because I think they 592 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,360 Speaker 1: buried a lot of stuff after that. 593 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 2: But this is. 594 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 1: Twenty years ago now that this investigation started. George W. 595 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 1: Bush was president when the Epstein investigations. So I do 596 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 1: I think we've I think we have updated this to 597 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 1: where we are right now. I would like to Clay, 598 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 1: if you're good with it, cover the news that is 599 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 1: out there today. The story is far more significant to 600 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 1: the country and Russia escalation, which also goes right to 601 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 1: Trump campaign promises and right to Maga and everything. I 602 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 1: think the Russia stuff is actually I mean the Russia 603 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 1: war stuff, not Russia collusion. 604 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 2: Obviously. 605 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 1: I think it's a big deal, and I think that 606 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 1: we shouldn't take our eye off this. We're also watching 607 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,840 Speaker 1: the Epstein thing. We will continue to read your emails, 608 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 1: We'll continue to take calls if you want, but in 609 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 1: terms of topics selection because we're also getting people who 610 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 1: are saying guys like, okay, we get it, We've talked 611 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,920 Speaker 1: like you, I can't do any more. Right When Trump 612 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 1: is saying this is where it is right now, he's 613 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 1: the commander in chief. He has the final say I 614 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 1: can't release more information, and this is where it is 615 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 1: right now. So we'll hear from you on this. We'll 616 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 1: continue to follow this, but for right now, I don't 617 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 1: think there's a way to move this story downfield or 618 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 1: rather to get more transparency or get more openness on 619 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 1: this other than just a lot of people going with 620 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 1: what they think. But what they think is not going 621 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 1: to do. We're talking about criminal charters, we're talking about 622 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:14,640 Speaker 1: huge consequences. What you think is not enough, you gotta 623 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 1: have You got to be able to prove these things, 624 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 1: and you have an obligation to say what you can 625 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 1: prove in some of these instances and not just throw 626 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 1: wild stuff out there, which I'm seeing a lot of. 627 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 1: And by the way, statute to limitations also apply. Some 628 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,040 Speaker 1: of this stuff is twenty years old now. I mean 629 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:32,920 Speaker 1: that's it's really hard to bring charges. 630 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 2: It's just hard to prove in general. I mean it's hard. 631 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 1: That's why there is a statute limitation on some things, 632 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 1: not on all things. Some of these crimes there's no statute. 633 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,240 Speaker 1: But anyway, we'll take calls, we'll get into this, we'll 634 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:42,800 Speaker 1: come back to it. 635 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,600 Speaker 2: Clay. You know what, I'm doing tonight. I'm excited cooking 636 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 2: some steaks. That's right. We've got Carrie's dad in town. 637 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 2: He's an airline pilot, as. 638 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 1: You know, former Fateen pilot, naval aviator, top gun program NBD. 639 00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:57,760 Speaker 1: But he's gonna be hanging out with us, and we're 640 00:33:57,760 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 1: gonna be cooking delicious steaks tonight. And you know who's 641 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 1: answering it. 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I was just I've spoken to Greg and I 682 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:01,440 Speaker 4: was just saying, how I think the f scene there's 683 00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 4: something there, but we're never going to find out what 684 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:05,839 Speaker 4: it is. And it goes to a bigger picture, in 685 00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:11,640 Speaker 4: my opinion, of there never being accountability for anything. What 686 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,799 Speaker 4: happened to the Twitter files, all those hearings, all of 687 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:18,799 Speaker 4: those people sitting in front of important people getting asked questions, 688 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:24,000 Speaker 4: and everyone's indignant because they're lying. Where is the accountability? 689 00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:26,000 Speaker 4: There's never accountability. 690 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:29,960 Speaker 1: I get it, and I appreciate you because Buck, we've 691 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,520 Speaker 1: hammered this. The only people, it seems to ever get 692 00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:36,360 Speaker 1: held accountable are the guys and gals who actually walked 693 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:39,040 Speaker 1: inside of the Capitol on jan six. They got pursued 694 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,440 Speaker 1: to the ends of the earth. Everybody else just basically 695 00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:43,359 Speaker 1: gets away with everything. Governor next