WEBVTT - Against All Odds

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the solid verbal.

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<v Speaker 2>Hull that for me, I'm a man, I'm for I've

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<v Speaker 2>heard so many players say, well, I want to be happy,

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<v Speaker 2>you want to be happy for dake Edo State? Is that?

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<v Speaker 1>Whoo whoo? And Dan and Tye.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back to the solid verbal boys and girls. My

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<v Speaker 2>name is ty hilden Brand, joining me as always over there.

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<v Speaker 1>In Chicago Land. Dan Rubinstein, sir, how are you? I

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<v Speaker 1>think you need to move to Chicago Land because you

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<v Speaker 1>say it so well it just rolls off the tongue. Yeah, absolutely, well,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate that I had a whole slew of doctor

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<v Speaker 2>Richard Kimball jokes in the queue over here, but now

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<v Speaker 2>that you compliment to me, I guess I can't make those.

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<v Speaker 1>How are you today? It's I'm good And it's weird

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<v Speaker 1>that you bring up Richard Kimball, of course, the lead

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<v Speaker 1>character on The Fugitive, both the movie and TV show.

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<v Speaker 1>Because I just recorded a brand new with Our Friend

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<v Speaker 1>and that is actually doctor Richard Kimball is featured on

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<v Speaker 1>the New with our Friend. How about really? Is that

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<v Speaker 1>a true? No, that's a truth? Say one hundred percent

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<v Speaker 1>fact and you will hear it when you listen to

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<v Speaker 1>the brand new horroruh with our friend.

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<v Speaker 2>Interesting. Well, yeah, with that being said, we're already humming

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<v Speaker 2>on the same frequency here. I am Tie, he is Dan.

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<v Speaker 2>We are the solid verbal. We are getting ready for

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<v Speaker 2>college football. We kind of have a general idea for

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<v Speaker 2>what form that's going to take on, obviously subject to change.

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<v Speaker 2>But for the duration of this show, you and I

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<v Speaker 2>are going to go through some of the re released

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<v Speaker 2>college football win totals that are out there. I also

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<v Speaker 2>found in scrolling through my FanDuel lap here in PA

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<v Speaker 2>some odds on conference champions not just winning the conference hour,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm talking winning the actual conference championship game. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll get into that in just a little bit. As

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<v Speaker 2>well as news and all the others are.

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<v Speaker 1>Guaranteeing you're gonna make people money, right, I am making

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<v Speaker 1>no such guarantee. You're guaranteeing the tie hill in the

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<v Speaker 1>brant Stone Cold icy Thermometer locks of the decade are

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<v Speaker 1>coming your way.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a couple picks here that I'm very interested in,

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<v Speaker 2>but uh no, I'm not making any such guarantee.

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<v Speaker 1>How's your how's your setup for game watching this year?

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<v Speaker 1>Because I know you've been you know you've been adjusting

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<v Speaker 1>your patio and remodeling and doing all sorts of things

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<v Speaker 1>at your home. Is it going to be the same

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<v Speaker 1>game watching setup? Obviously we're not going to need as

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<v Speaker 1>many screens with some cancelations. Have you thought about what

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<v Speaker 1>your your visual is going to be this fall?

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<v Speaker 2>I am since it stays summer until the winter. Nowadays,

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<v Speaker 2>I am working on an outdoor setup. WHOA, I cante

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<v Speaker 2>some friends over and enjoygia or mounted.

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<v Speaker 1>What are we talking about?

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<v Speaker 2>I think we're just talking like a two hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>fifty dollars Roku TV, that sort of deal that I

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<v Speaker 2>can move outside.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, it depends what's on sale. Come on

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<v Speaker 1>the show deal, try to woomb me. I'm open man.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you Are you asking for the representatives of budget

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<v Speaker 1>television companies to come on a college football show to

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<v Speaker 1>sell you as if you are some sort of budget

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<v Speaker 1>electronic shark. Believe that's exactly what I'm doing. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's right. Just making sure I think that's right. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>working on that setup. Have you had a chance to

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<v Speaker 1>go through your setup now that you've moved into a

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<v Speaker 1>new abode. Yeah, we mounted the new TV. I got

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<v Speaker 1>and so that's I've never had a mounted TV, so

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<v Speaker 1>that's really nice and should be made for for But

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<v Speaker 1>did you mount it up above eye level? Like?

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<v Speaker 2>What is what is the situation the orientation of that

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<v Speaker 2>TV related.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not a it's not like the level above a fireplace,

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<v Speaker 1>but it is above eye level. It's sort of eye

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<v Speaker 1>level if I'm standing up, So I think the middle

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<v Speaker 1>of the screen is probably I think that's six.

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<v Speaker 2>I've seen a lot of very poor mounting decisions with

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<v Speaker 2>regard TV.

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<v Speaker 1>With regard to the TV, Okay, I'm just mere words,

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<v Speaker 1>got you, you know, a little too high? Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I hear you.

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<v Speaker 2>No.

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<v Speaker 1>So, but because we have the stand still the TV stand,

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<v Speaker 1>we have a TV stand. One of Jody's old TV

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<v Speaker 1>is a smaller TV that I might just move on

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<v Speaker 1>to the stand for game watching as a second TV.

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<v Speaker 1>But no, we're good shape.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm working on the outdoor thing. The indoor thing I

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<v Speaker 2>think will be mostly in state.

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<v Speaker 1>Not going to change that around.

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<v Speaker 2>But last time around this year, we obviously didn't have

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<v Speaker 2>this pandemic where it was a little cagey about inviting

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<v Speaker 2>people inside, and so I'm trying to utilize the space

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<v Speaker 2>outdoors as best I can't smart smart do what I

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<v Speaker 2>can to try and live out a normal college football Saturday.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're going to talk through all of the Now,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to talk through the news. Don't forget if

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<v Speaker 2>If you're just tuning in for the first time, going

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<v Speaker 2>out there, give a listen to some of the previous

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<v Speaker 2>stuff that we've done all off season. Frankly for the

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<v Speaker 2>last twelve years.

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<v Speaker 1>What we've done, We've been doing stuff for twelve years now.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you believe it? No? I know, but you're saying

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<v Speaker 1>give it a listen, Like should we should we encourage

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<v Speaker 1>this and go back here? I've got an idea, Tye.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe next week we go back and we do a

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<v Speaker 1>director's commentary on our twenty thirteen Pac twelve preview. Because

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<v Speaker 1>we don't have a twenty twenty Pac twelve preview coming up,

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<v Speaker 1>so we go back to twenty thirteen and we just

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<v Speaker 1>relive just so we can get some Pac twelve football.

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<v Speaker 1>Do the same for the Big Ten. Relive a preview

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<v Speaker 1>of conferences that won't be happening to at least get

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<v Speaker 1>some Midwest and West Coast content out there. How about that?

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<v Speaker 2>We would get tens of thousands of downloads even if

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<v Speaker 2>we posted an old preview show.

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<v Speaker 1>It's true, It's absolutely true.

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<v Speaker 2>We would get many thousand unsubscribes if we did that.

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<v Speaker 1>Damn, but yeah, here is the theme that I want to.

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<v Speaker 2>Move forward with and we're going to get into news.

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<v Speaker 2>We are now very quickly coming to a place where

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<v Speaker 2>it still does not quite feel right to me, like

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<v Speaker 2>this season's actually going to happen. And I don't mean

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<v Speaker 2>that with any kind of like moral authority. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>mean it in that sense. But I'm still very cautious

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<v Speaker 2>about this whole thing. Like, right, we'll talk about cases

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<v Speaker 2>and where they're spiking up around the South and around

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<v Speaker 2>the country, but pretty soon here we got to start

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<v Speaker 2>getting serious.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Yeah, I think what you meant to say, and

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<v Speaker 1>maybe I'm wrong here too, but I think what you

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<v Speaker 1>meant to say is it's very strange to try to

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<v Speaker 1>turn off the entirety of the world around college football, right.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's right. It's very strange too, And we are,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, our first priority is like, hey, if we

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<v Speaker 1>can get some college football and with about without a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of kids getting sick and spreading disease, buddy, that's

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<v Speaker 1>a win. That's a huge win. That'd be amazing. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's what we're rooting for. But you're right, it is.

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<v Speaker 1>It is very strange because for the what twelve years,

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<v Speaker 1>eleven years, thirteen years, whatever, we've been doing the show

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<v Speaker 1>or season wise, we've just said, oh my god, it's

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<v Speaker 1>August and college football is almost here. Let's giggle like

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<v Speaker 1>schoolgirls and figure out who has an amazing defense, who

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<v Speaker 1>has a coordinator coming in that's going to change everything,

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<v Speaker 1>who is set to nosedive after an amazing twenty ten

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever. And it's just it's hard to look at

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<v Speaker 1>the sport through those same glasses, right, I think it is.

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<v Speaker 2>It's really hard to come at this like we're shot

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<v Speaker 2>out of a cannon. Yeah, like we normally would, because

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<v Speaker 2>the whole schedule's been thrown off, and look, there's still

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<v Speaker 2>a fair amount of uncertainty. We're going to talk about

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<v Speaker 2>that here momentarily when we get to news. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 2>as of now, barring any kind of unforeseen circumstances between

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<v Speaker 2>when we're recording this on a Tuesday night and well

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<v Speaker 2>when will record next excuse me, on a Thursday evening,

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<v Speaker 2>I believe the plan is to move forward with an

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<v Speaker 2>acc preview on Thursday.

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<v Speaker 1>Correct, it is, and we are going to look at football.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to look at the schedules, We're going to

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<v Speaker 1>look at rosters, we're going to look at coaching changes,

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<v Speaker 1>we are going to look at the ACC and hope

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<v Speaker 1>for the best, hope for the best. Should we get

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<v Speaker 1>to news, let's do that. We have breaking news. Boom

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<v Speaker 1>boom boo, boom boom boom. Solid wife Kate tells me

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<v Speaker 1>that the dog looks.

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<v Speaker 2>Very confused the breaking news whenever she hears me, yeh upstairs,

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<v Speaker 2>good about breaking doing your job.

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<v Speaker 3>So look, we've got an AP top twenty five, Dan,

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<v Speaker 3>we do an AP Top twenty five. Interestingly enough, they

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<v Speaker 3>released it and it featured many of the teams who

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<v Speaker 3>are not going to be.

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<v Speaker 1>Playing this year. Did they give a reason why? I

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<v Speaker 1>did not see the reason. Why did you? I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>see a reason why. I assume it's because there's some like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>we need to put twenty five team of our website

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<v Speaker 1>destructured such that there needs to do twenty five slots,

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<v Speaker 1>so we didn't want to put in like x x

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<v Speaker 1>x x x as number. You know whatever. Where's a

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<v Speaker 1>Big ten team or a Big twelve team? So yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I like it, Well let's do it. Why not?

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<v Speaker 2>So the Big ten had Ohio state number what two?

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<v Speaker 2>They had Penn state number seven. The Pac twelve had

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<v Speaker 2>Oregon at number nine. Obviously those schools are not going

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<v Speaker 2>to be playing their seasons because of concerns over the coronavirus,

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<v Speaker 2>which means that our RONA adjusted top ten looks something

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<v Speaker 2>like this Clemson one, Alabama two, Georgia three, Oklahoma four.

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<v Speaker 2>Any surprises, didn't think so? Moving on five, LSU six,

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<v Speaker 2>Florida seven, Notre Dame eight, Auburn nine A and M

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<v Speaker 2>and ten the Texas Longhorn stand any surprises here? And

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<v Speaker 2>looking through this.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess a small part of me is a little

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<v Speaker 1>surprised about LSU at five, just because last year seemed

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<v Speaker 1>like such a perfect storm of quarterback and coach and

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<v Speaker 1>situation with you know, how many great receivers they had

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<v Speaker 1>and the defensive talent. Not that LSU, ever is lacking

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<v Speaker 1>for talent at any point on the field, but I

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<v Speaker 1>would have thought the unknowns of LSU, with the changes

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<v Speaker 1>both on the sideline and on the offensive roster, would

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<v Speaker 1>have dropped them a little bit beneath five, somewhere in

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<v Speaker 1>like the eight to nine range. But I think I

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<v Speaker 1>guess benefit of the doubt exists.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, yeah, if I'm counting correctly, it's what two of

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<v Speaker 2>the top ten teams, three of the top ten teams

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<v Speaker 2>that are going to be breaking in new starting quarterbacks.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to count Alabama because you know, Mac

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<v Speaker 2>Jones has played some high file games, but yeah, the

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<v Speaker 2>LSU one jumped out at me.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Oklahoma and.

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<v Speaker 2>Georgia do as well, just because of that quarterback factor. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>obviously both teams are loaded to the gills. They're going

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<v Speaker 2>to be top caliber by the time we get through

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<v Speaker 2>all this. But to start Georgia off at three with

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<v Speaker 2>some questions around, like, is Jamie Newman going to be good?

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<v Speaker 1>That's gifted Jamie Newman, It could be JT. Daniels, could

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<v Speaker 1>be JT. Daniels. Yeah, no, I think Look, is Kellen

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<v Speaker 1>Mond a top ten national quarterback in a Big ten

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<v Speaker 1>and Pac twelve existing time? Probably not, But here he

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<v Speaker 1>is at number nine. And the case is that A

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<v Speaker 1>and M schedule is going to be a lot more

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<v Speaker 1>workable than it was last season when it was just impossible.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just impossible. So yes, with the amount A

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<v Speaker 1>and M has returned talent wise and coaching staff wise,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a pretty easy case to be made that with

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<v Speaker 1>a limited number of Power five teams in the market place,

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<v Speaker 1>that they're a top ten team It's just there's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of teams in here where you're like, I just

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<v Speaker 1>don't see that at all in terms of a Top twenty,

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<v Speaker 1>top fifteen, Like Virginia Tech at number eighteen. They were

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<v Speaker 1>a much better team with Hendon Hooker starting at quarterback,

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<v Speaker 1>but they had some problems. They had some problems on

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<v Speaker 1>both sides of the ball, and for them to be

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<v Speaker 1>considered Top twenty, I guess it takes special circumstances like

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<v Speaker 1>we have now.

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<v Speaker 2>There are going to be some coaches using this ap

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<v Speaker 2>top twenty five to get another contract.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what's gonna happen. You mean the preseason top twenty

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<v Speaker 1>three season.

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<v Speaker 2>But when it's all said and done, yeah, the top

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<v Speaker 2>twenty team maybe doesn't quite have the same weight that

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<v Speaker 2>it did when two of the Power five conferences hadn't

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<v Speaker 2>canceled their seasons.

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<v Speaker 1>Just saying I think that's right, you know, and not

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of asteriskies on social media posts, it seems.

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<v Speaker 2>No. Well, here's an interesting tidbit now to the point

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<v Speaker 2>of top twenty fives and how will the season be effected?

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<v Speaker 2>Did shortly before we came on the air, Jason Cursey,

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<v Speaker 2>who covers Oklahoma football for The Athletic tweeted out quote

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<v Speaker 2>Lincoln Riley won't say which position group it is, but

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<v Speaker 2>says he had one group essentially wiped out all but

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<v Speaker 2>one by a COVID test. He said it's a position

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<v Speaker 2>group that quote needs multiple guys on the field together. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>this is interesting. I'm not trying to imply that Oklahoma

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<v Speaker 2>is going to be hampered come the latter part of September.

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<v Speaker 1>They'll be able to because health and yeah, they'll be fine.

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<v Speaker 2>But this kind of speaks to the challenge of playing

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<v Speaker 2>college football in the time of coronavirus. What happens if

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<v Speaker 2>something like this goes down during a season? What happens

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<v Speaker 2>for a whole wide receiving core, a whole line gets

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<v Speaker 2>wiped out. Those guys suddenly can't play for at least

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<v Speaker 2>two weeks. I know some of these schedules have been

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<v Speaker 2>engineered in such a way that, yes, we've got time

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<v Speaker 2>to move games, we can shift and flex as we

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<v Speaker 2>see fit. But just to give folks a preview of

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<v Speaker 2>I think what we can expect, you know, I'd like

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<v Speaker 2>to know what the position group is. Maybe that would

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<v Speaker 2>help us with some betting lines in the latter part

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<v Speaker 2>of suppurberless.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, but I'm tatless. I'd like to know that

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<v Speaker 1>all the players are okay and healthy. That would be

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<v Speaker 1>But yes, I think, yeah, I think this is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be very real and it's going to and this

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<v Speaker 1>is you know what the Larry Scott and Kevin Warren

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<v Speaker 1>had to defend sometimes not great in the way that

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<v Speaker 1>they canceled their conferences seasons where it's tough. Decisions are

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<v Speaker 1>going to be made and they're going to be needed

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<v Speaker 1>down the line in terms of thresholds, in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>how sick and quarantine and how far spread and tracing.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think it might speak a little to who's

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<v Speaker 1>actually making the decisions, who has all of the data.

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<v Speaker 1>How often are they receiving data. Is it a coach decision,

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<v Speaker 1>is it an ad decision? Is it a president decision?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it a conference decision? I assume schools and conferences

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<v Speaker 1>are having these conversations and position groups, and I would

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<v Speaker 1>assume you also have to have conversations within coaching staffs

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<v Speaker 1>about who feels comfortable and can find spaces and stuff

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<v Speaker 1>like that, because there are coaches who fall into age

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<v Speaker 1>groups that are more susceptible than players. So I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to be fascinating to learn how schools handle

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<v Speaker 1>things like this over the course of the season. Because Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so eight players are now quarantine. That's a number I

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<v Speaker 1>just made up. Eight players are now quarantine for state,

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<v Speaker 1>you whatever. And they feel good enough about their depth

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<v Speaker 1>and the number of bodies they have that are not

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<v Speaker 1>quarantining out of caution to play a game. They want

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<v Speaker 1>to play a game. The rest of the team is fine.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that optically something that a program is willing to

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<v Speaker 1>go forward with? I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>No. Well, again, more of a previous Texas Tech reporting

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<v Speaker 2>twenty one active COVID nineteen cases within the football program,

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<v Speaker 2>but they're going to continue to practice without those individuals

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<v Speaker 2>who have been placed in self isolation to prevent further

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<v Speaker 2>spread of the virus.

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<v Speaker 1>We also saw.

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<v Speaker 2>News in the last few days about NC State pausing

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<v Speaker 2>their athletic activities, including football, after some clusters were found

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<v Speaker 2>within their various athletic programs. Overall, twenty seven cases of

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<v Speaker 2>COVID nineteen within the athletic department. Not all of the

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<v Speaker 2>cases involve student athletes. Presumably that means some staff members

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<v Speaker 2>or whatnot. But I would just say, get used to

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<v Speaker 2>this right. This is going to be our new reality

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<v Speaker 2>for the time being if we're going to mount any

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<v Speaker 2>kind of season, whether it's in the fall or frankly,

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<v Speaker 2>the spring, I think this is going to be a

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<v Speaker 2>recurring theme that we're just going to have to try

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<v Speaker 2>and get as comfortable with as we can.

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<v Speaker 1>The other thing that I.

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<v Speaker 2>Wanted to point out here is, and this is my

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<v Speaker 2>question that I foreshadowed a bit in our intro, the

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<v Speaker 2>College Football Playoff Committee is going gung ho to release

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<v Speaker 2>their first weekly rankings on November seventeenth now, despite the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that it does feel a little incomplete, regardless of

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<v Speaker 2>what Dabosweeney has to say, he's a little in complete

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<v Speaker 2>to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Excuse me, doctor dabos Doctor David excuse me. Yeah, he

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<v Speaker 1>is a little incomplete.

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<v Speaker 2>But these are the teams that are playing, so I

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<v Speaker 2>understand that they want to do the rankings in the

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<v Speaker 2>playoffs to the best of their ability. I'm real curious

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<v Speaker 2>right about now what the Big Ten and Pact twelve

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<v Speaker 2>are thinking, because I take them at their word that

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<v Speaker 2>they called off the season out of an abundance of

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<v Speaker 2>caution based on health data that they got from experts.

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<v Speaker 2>I know there's a lot of disagreement out there at

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<v Speaker 2>the unknowns.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that was ross mentioned that it's not just

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<v Speaker 1>the data, but it's that we don't have complete data.

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<v Speaker 1>They did it for the right reasons.

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<v Speaker 2>I have no doubt about that, Okay, I'm just one

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<v Speaker 2>wondering how they are envisioning their spring season. Did they

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<v Speaker 2>think that if they pulled the plug that others would

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<v Speaker 2>be soon to follow? My assumption is yes, because otherwise

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder if they wouldn't have hung on the way

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<v Speaker 2>some of the other conferences have. This makes it all

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<v Speaker 2>but impossible to have any kind of national champion in

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<v Speaker 2>the spring season. You're going to have two conferences, a

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<v Speaker 2>couple others maybe playing their games an exhibition slate of sorts.

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<v Speaker 2>In the springtime. It works a little better. Frankly, it

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<v Speaker 2>definitely is more symmetrical if you've got all of the

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<v Speaker 2>conferences playing at the same time. But when you mix

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<v Speaker 2>in match like this, when you stagger some in the

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<v Speaker 2>fall some in the spring, it just gets really messy.

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<v Speaker 2>And this whole playoff thing, like, they're not going to

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<v Speaker 2>do two playoffs, right, So how do the Big ten

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<v Speaker 2>and Pac twelve spin it? Do they just play against

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<v Speaker 2>each other in bowl games or I don't know, it

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<v Speaker 2>just seems like it's quite a mess.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I would imagine there are I think the overwhelming

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<v Speaker 1>amount is the concern that they have for playing with

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<v Speaker 1>so many unknowns and the health stuff, and perhaps you know,

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<v Speaker 1>talking about liability and how to maneuver that whole section

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<v Speaker 1>of the sport. But I also think one it's buying time,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's also I would assume this is me assuming,

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<v Speaker 1>I would assume the Big ten in the PAC twelve

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<v Speaker 1>knew that at least the SEC and Big twelve, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>not the ACC, but the SEC and Big twelve, we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to try everything they could to move forward. And

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<v Speaker 1>they could then in turn gather data from those experiments

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<v Speaker 1>and taking off a couple games here and there, and

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<v Speaker 1>flex scheduling, and what to do when there are positive tests,

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<v Speaker 1>what to do when there are clusters, what to do

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<v Speaker 1>with tracing that they can actually draft off of the

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<v Speaker 1>data of other conferences so they can point to the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that they're doing as much due diligence as possible.

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<v Speaker 1>And I guess using a couple of other power conferences

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<v Speaker 1>at least a couple as guinea pigs through this whole,

0:21:01.119 --> 0:21:04.800
<v Speaker 1>very strange college football experiment. That's an assumption I have

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<v Speaker 1>that that's a conversation behind closed doors, that we can

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<v Speaker 1>take the lessons. And certainly all conferences have looked to

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<v Speaker 1>the NBA and have looked to other sports, whatever it's

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<v Speaker 1>Korean baseball or soccer overseas to see how athletic departments

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<v Speaker 1>or programs or franchises whatever have dealt with illness and

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<v Speaker 1>adjusting on the fly. Major League Baseball has run into

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<v Speaker 1>some issues. So that's something I see happening that those

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<v Speaker 1>two conferences are saying, one, we're doing this because it's

0:21:33.960 --> 0:21:38.600
<v Speaker 1>better to be too cautious than too adventurous with public health.

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<v Speaker 1>And two we can learn from others trying to do

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<v Speaker 1>what we'd like to do. I think that's sort of

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<v Speaker 1>the thinking as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I you know, like I said, I think everyone's

0:21:50.160 --> 0:21:51.760
<v Speaker 2>heart is in the right place. It's just a very

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<v Speaker 2>often time and now seeing some of these news stories

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<v Speaker 2>that we've got other conferences, we've got the playoff committee

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<v Speaker 2>trying to push forward. It obviously amps up the pressure

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit on guys like Kevin Warren and out

0:22:07.920 --> 0:22:10.679
<v Speaker 2>in the Pac twelve as well. Like it's it's it's

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<v Speaker 2>weird for everybody involved.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure. So it wouldn't have been the worst idea

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<v Speaker 1>for the college football playoff to say, man, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>strange year. We're gonna hold off on saying, oh, you

0:22:23.760 --> 0:22:26.920
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't you you would love that you hate the playoff.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't hate the playoff. I like watching high level games,

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<v Speaker 1>but the focus on the playoff as a central part

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<v Speaker 1>of the sport is not for me. That's all, all right.

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<v Speaker 2>So some other news tidbits here before we get into

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<v Speaker 2>our little betting segment.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess gambling whatever you.

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<v Speaker 2>Call it, Tennessee is restricting ticket sales to about twenty

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<v Speaker 2>five percent of Kneeland Stadium. There is a stadium that

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<v Speaker 2>you may know. Dan holds one hundred and twenty four

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and fifty five fans.

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<v Speaker 1>We talk about that all the time. YEP.

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<v Speaker 2>Means about twenty five thousand fans are going to be

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<v Speaker 2>in the stadium.

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<v Speaker 1>I've got a quote here from Philip.

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<v Speaker 2>Fulmer, their athletic director, quote. These circumstances are beyond our control.

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<v Speaker 2>We understand the importance of playing our part and keeping

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<v Speaker 2>our community healthy for those who will be with us

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<v Speaker 2>in the stadium.

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<v Speaker 1>The season.

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<v Speaker 2>Please know we are committed to creating the safest possible

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<v Speaker 2>environment in and around Niland Stadium. So Neiland Stadium might

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<v Speaker 2>believe the fifth biggest stadium, and with Beaver Stadium and

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<v Speaker 2>Michigan Stadium and Ohio Stadium not playing, it's suddenly catapulted

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<v Speaker 2>higher up on that list. We will see how they do.

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<v Speaker 2>We will see how they do here as this gets closer.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very strange that there are I mean, I've seen

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<v Speaker 1>some of the early games have said I think it

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<v Speaker 1>was BYU Navy. I saw that there are going to

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<v Speaker 1>be no fans in the stands. It's very strange that

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<v Speaker 1>there are different And I understand that public health is

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<v Speaker 1>different everywhere in terms of spread and cases and clusters,

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<v Speaker 1>but it would be really nice if we had some

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<v Speaker 1>sort of consensus about the same sport and what they're

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<v Speaker 1>doing about crowds or no crowds or what percentage of crowds.

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<v Speaker 1>It is very strange to see because there's consensus in

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<v Speaker 1>Major League Baseball, there's consensus about what's going on in

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL. I just saw the Rams announce that Sofi

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<v Speaker 1>Stadium there are going to be no fans. It's the

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<v Speaker 1>new stadium in LA. It's just odd. It's just odd

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<v Speaker 1>that whoever is making the decisions at Tennessee. And this

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<v Speaker 1>is not to single out Tennessee because we've seen it

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<v Speaker 1>at other places like Texas and a couple places in

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<v Speaker 1>the SEC where it's like, well, we're gonna go with

0:24:32.400 --> 0:24:34.840
<v Speaker 1>fifty percent. Okay, No, now we're going with twenty five percent. Oh,

0:24:34.840 --> 0:24:37.040
<v Speaker 1>maybe we'll be up backed up to fifty percent. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>see what happens where it would just be nice somebody

0:24:39.800 --> 0:24:41.720
<v Speaker 1>made a decision and just went with it.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you say we close out with two happier stories, Dan.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm ready let's eliminate bummers for now.

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<v Speaker 2>Cincinnati has re upped with Luke Fickle game of contract

0:24:56.200 --> 0:24:59.160
<v Speaker 2>extension through twenty twenty six. We'd time to be given

0:24:59.160 --> 0:25:01.800
<v Speaker 2>out contract extent. It's not going to lie, but Luke

0:25:01.840 --> 0:25:05.480
<v Speaker 2>Fickle has earned it. It will increase his salary to

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<v Speaker 2>three point four million dollars annually.

0:25:10.880 --> 0:25:13.960
<v Speaker 1>That's a good chunk of change. And Cincinnati is one

0:25:14.000 --> 0:25:16.280
<v Speaker 1>of those schools. I mean, they were in the Big East.

0:25:16.359 --> 0:25:19.119
<v Speaker 1>This is a major program. They just don't happen to

0:25:19.119 --> 0:25:22.760
<v Speaker 1>play in a Power five conference. So I guess good

0:25:22.760 --> 0:25:25.639
<v Speaker 1>for Cincinnati for stepping up after Luke Fickle decided he

0:25:25.720 --> 0:25:28.960
<v Speaker 1>didn't want to take the Michigan State job. I imagine

0:25:29.000 --> 0:25:31.600
<v Speaker 1>this extension has been in the works for a good

0:25:31.680 --> 0:25:34.040
<v Speaker 1>long time, but announcing it at the height of when

0:25:34.080 --> 0:25:36.160
<v Speaker 1>things have been really bad would have been in poor

0:25:36.240 --> 0:25:41.240
<v Speaker 1>taste to say, we're giving our football coach a good raise.

0:25:41.600 --> 0:25:45.120
<v Speaker 1>But he's definitely earned it, and Cincinnati football should be

0:25:45.800 --> 0:25:47.720
<v Speaker 1>very good as long as Luke Fickle is there.

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<v Speaker 2>And finally, North Dakota State Dan you may recall, will

0:25:53.240 --> 0:25:58.560
<v Speaker 2>not be playing their season this fall, as is the case,

0:25:58.720 --> 0:26:02.320
<v Speaker 2>as is the case also with schools in the Southland

0:26:02.359 --> 0:26:07.720
<v Speaker 2>Conference like Central Arkansas, but due to some flexibility that

0:26:07.760 --> 0:26:12.520
<v Speaker 2>the conferences have granted member schools, they can play kind

0:26:12.560 --> 0:26:17.240
<v Speaker 2>of like a limited exhibition slate of sorts. This is

0:26:17.280 --> 0:26:20.280
<v Speaker 2>sort of the Sinco to tayo, but kind is yeah,

0:26:20.400 --> 0:26:22.880
<v Speaker 2>it kind of is so YadA, YadA YadA. North Dakota

0:26:22.920 --> 0:26:29.480
<v Speaker 2>State the Bison schedule to play a game on October

0:26:29.480 --> 0:26:33.360
<v Speaker 2>third against Central Arkansas of the Southland Conference. That game

0:26:33.400 --> 0:26:36.680
<v Speaker 2>is going to be in Fargo, and it's interesting because

0:26:37.280 --> 0:26:41.520
<v Speaker 2>North Dakota State's quarterback Trey Lance is a projected first

0:26:41.600 --> 0:26:47.720
<v Speaker 2>round selection. Some prospects in this game Dylan Radunce, he's

0:26:47.760 --> 0:26:51.840
<v Speaker 2>a left tackle for North Dakota State, Cordell Volson, right

0:26:51.880 --> 0:26:55.040
<v Speaker 2>tackle for North Dakota State, as well as Robert Rochelle,

0:26:55.040 --> 0:26:58.280
<v Speaker 2>who is a cornerback for Central Arkansas. Gives these kids

0:26:58.320 --> 0:27:01.359
<v Speaker 2>an opportunity maybe to showcase what they can do in

0:27:01.440 --> 0:27:03.920
<v Speaker 2>a game where presumably they're going to have a pretty

0:27:04.000 --> 0:27:04.680
<v Speaker 2>nice stage.

0:27:05.240 --> 0:27:06.440
<v Speaker 1>It won't count for anything.

0:27:06.680 --> 0:27:09.040
<v Speaker 2>It sounds like they're going to play their actual season

0:27:09.080 --> 0:27:13.080
<v Speaker 2>in the springtime. But curious to see what kinds of

0:27:13.960 --> 0:27:16.800
<v Speaker 2>other opportunities such as this bubble up now that North

0:27:16.880 --> 0:27:18.439
<v Speaker 2>Dakota State has announced.

0:27:19.280 --> 0:27:25.000
<v Speaker 1>Central Arkansas went nine and four last year. They went

0:27:25.080 --> 0:27:25.520
<v Speaker 1>on and four.

0:27:25.520 --> 0:27:27.800
<v Speaker 2>They've got a couple national championships to their name. It's

0:27:27.880 --> 0:27:32.480
<v Speaker 2>kind of a credible program. Sure, So I.

0:27:32.440 --> 0:27:34.960
<v Speaker 1>Suppose if you're I don't think Trey Lance will be

0:27:35.040 --> 0:27:37.679
<v Speaker 1>eligible for the NFL draft though right he was? Was

0:27:37.680 --> 0:27:40.000
<v Speaker 1>he a true freshman or red shirt freshman last year?

0:27:40.760 --> 0:27:41.840
<v Speaker 1>You might have to look that up.

0:27:41.880 --> 0:27:44.720
<v Speaker 2>All I saw is that he is projected as the

0:27:44.800 --> 0:27:46.240
<v Speaker 2>fourteenth player off the board.

0:27:46.800 --> 0:27:49.680
<v Speaker 1>Oh, okay, so he will be eligible for the draft. Okay,

0:27:49.680 --> 0:27:52.200
<v Speaker 1>So I believe that's I believe that's correct. Yes, Okay,

0:27:52.640 --> 0:27:56.600
<v Speaker 1>So now we have tape against Lance against the Central

0:27:56.640 --> 0:28:01.560
<v Speaker 1>Arkansas Bears. Congratulations NFL Scouts. Good for NDSU, Good for

0:28:01.600 --> 0:28:03.760
<v Speaker 1>Central Arkansas to get a game of football in. I

0:28:03.840 --> 0:28:07.560
<v Speaker 1>will watch it because I've only watched clips of Trey

0:28:07.640 --> 0:28:10.399
<v Speaker 1>Lance and came away very impressed, and to bring it

0:28:10.440 --> 0:28:13.159
<v Speaker 1>back to me because I love doing that tie. I

0:28:13.320 --> 0:28:15.800
<v Speaker 1>was severely bummed out that we were not going to

0:28:15.800 --> 0:28:18.280
<v Speaker 1>be able to see Oregon Ohio State as a college

0:28:18.280 --> 0:28:21.359
<v Speaker 1>football fan, as an Oregon fan, you know, in in

0:28:21.440 --> 0:28:23.760
<v Speaker 1>Audston Stadium. It would just it would have been incredible.

0:28:24.560 --> 0:28:29.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm not bummed out we lost Oregon State when I

0:28:29.880 --> 0:28:31.639
<v Speaker 1>saw that that was canceled, that the Pac twelve was

0:28:31.680 --> 0:28:34.240
<v Speaker 1>moving away from non conference games, and so that meant

0:28:34.240 --> 0:28:39.880
<v Speaker 1>no Ohio State. The Buckeye lost. Huge bummer NDSU like

0:28:39.960 --> 0:28:42.800
<v Speaker 1>it's for the best. It is just for the best

0:28:43.040 --> 0:28:46.240
<v Speaker 1>that Oregon either can't beat a team they're way more

0:28:46.240 --> 0:28:50.080
<v Speaker 1>talented than, or can't lose to a team that's seriously,

0:28:50.240 --> 0:28:52.959
<v Speaker 1>very very good and an FBS team masquerading as an

0:28:53.000 --> 0:28:53.800
<v Speaker 1>FCS one.

0:28:54.720 --> 0:28:58.920
<v Speaker 2>That is the news for now of the real and

0:28:59.000 --> 0:29:02.480
<v Speaker 2>the weird. Please do email Solidverbal at gmail dot com

0:29:02.520 --> 0:29:04.360
<v Speaker 2>if you have thoughts or anything else that you'd like

0:29:04.400 --> 0:29:07.880
<v Speaker 2>for us to share on the next show, which again

0:29:07.920 --> 0:29:11.160
<v Speaker 2>will come on what Friday morning to do our ACC

0:29:11.200 --> 0:29:15.680
<v Speaker 2>preview Dan. Okay, correct, Now, before we get into some

0:29:15.760 --> 0:29:19.520
<v Speaker 2>of these revised over under tootals and the odds to

0:29:19.600 --> 0:29:22.920
<v Speaker 2>win conference championship games, I need you to pull up

0:29:22.920 --> 0:29:25.400
<v Speaker 2>the schedule for the SEC.

0:29:26.240 --> 0:29:28.640
<v Speaker 1>All right, SEC schedule is up.

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<v Speaker 2>Here is what we're looking at with regard to our

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<v Speaker 2>top let's say six teams. Georgia's over under is eight

0:29:39.400 --> 0:29:42.560
<v Speaker 2>and a half. Keep in mind, this is a ten

0:29:42.560 --> 0:29:48.560
<v Speaker 2>game season in the SEC. Alabama is at eight, Florida

0:29:48.600 --> 0:29:52.600
<v Speaker 2>at seven and a half, LSU at seven, Texas A

0:29:52.600 --> 0:29:56.080
<v Speaker 2>and M at seven, and Auburn at six and a half.

0:29:57.320 --> 0:29:59.360
<v Speaker 2>So that's your cut off point. That is my cut

0:29:59.400 --> 0:30:01.080
<v Speaker 2>off point for now. We could go deeper if we

0:30:01.080 --> 0:30:03.400
<v Speaker 2>want to talk about Tennessee at five or ole Miss

0:30:03.400 --> 0:30:06.680
<v Speaker 2>at four, but for now, let's start with those six

0:30:06.720 --> 0:30:09.560
<v Speaker 2>teams since we have talked an awful lot about them.

0:30:10.520 --> 0:30:13.840
<v Speaker 2>How do you feel about that Alabama number being only

0:30:13.880 --> 0:30:14.320
<v Speaker 2>at eight?

0:30:16.040 --> 0:30:19.360
<v Speaker 1>So what are the presumed two losses to break even?

0:30:20.080 --> 0:30:24.320
<v Speaker 1>Georgia LSU, Georgia A and M TOP ten A and

0:30:24.440 --> 0:30:27.680
<v Speaker 1>M Georgia Tennessee on the road. So let's like, let's

0:30:27.680 --> 0:30:31.400
<v Speaker 1>call it Georgia LSU because Alabama does not play Florida

0:30:31.520 --> 0:30:39.040
<v Speaker 1>correct correct, regular season correct, I'd probably take the over.

0:30:40.760 --> 0:30:42.160
<v Speaker 1>It seems like I'm taking the over.

0:30:42.320 --> 0:30:45.720
<v Speaker 2>You are not alone in that assumption from what I

0:30:45.760 --> 0:30:49.360
<v Speaker 2>can tell here just based on the on the numbers.

0:30:49.440 --> 0:30:52.920
<v Speaker 2>Yet it looks like most people are going pretty heavy on.

0:30:52.760 --> 0:30:54.440
<v Speaker 1>That over as well.

0:30:54.560 --> 0:30:58.760
<v Speaker 2>But you know, I'm assuming it's because they've got a

0:30:58.840 --> 0:31:01.280
<v Speaker 2>Georgia game. It's at home, but they've got that game

0:31:01.280 --> 0:31:08.760
<v Speaker 2>against Georgia. They're on the road at LSU. But I

0:31:08.800 --> 0:31:11.239
<v Speaker 2>don't see them losing more than like two games, So

0:31:11.280 --> 0:31:13.040
<v Speaker 2>I'd be inclined to go over, even though you're not

0:31:13.040 --> 0:31:16.640
<v Speaker 2>getting great odds on it. The one that I guess

0:31:17.120 --> 0:31:21.680
<v Speaker 2>surprises me a little bit is LSU, and it's for

0:31:21.800 --> 0:31:23.920
<v Speaker 2>many the same reasons that we discussed when we were

0:31:23.920 --> 0:31:27.880
<v Speaker 2>going through that ap Top twenty five or the RONA

0:31:27.960 --> 0:31:31.200
<v Speaker 2>revised Top twenty five. Excuse me, Yeah, this is a

0:31:31.280 --> 0:31:32.280
<v Speaker 2>very difficult schedule.

0:31:32.360 --> 0:31:33.560
<v Speaker 1>They're in the SEC West.

0:31:33.840 --> 0:31:36.320
<v Speaker 2>We've already talked about the merits of the schedule. Here,

0:31:37.120 --> 0:31:37.640
<v Speaker 2>there's also a.

0:31:37.640 --> 0:31:39.800
<v Speaker 1>Team that loses a lot.

0:31:39.680 --> 0:31:43.200
<v Speaker 2>Loses their generational quarterback. You got a really good team

0:31:43.240 --> 0:31:50.479
<v Speaker 2>coming back, mind you. But seven wins is interesting territory,

0:31:50.560 --> 0:31:52.280
<v Speaker 2>and I think that could be right on the number

0:31:52.280 --> 0:31:54.560
<v Speaker 2>if you ask me. They're at Florida, which would be

0:31:54.560 --> 0:31:58.400
<v Speaker 2>a tough place to play. They're at Jordan Hare on Halloween.

0:32:00.080 --> 0:32:04.320
<v Speaker 2>They obviously have the Alabama game, which has played November

0:32:04.320 --> 0:32:08.160
<v Speaker 2>fourteenth this year in this updated season and latter in

0:32:08.200 --> 0:32:11.920
<v Speaker 2>the year on the road at a and m back

0:32:11.960 --> 0:32:14.080
<v Speaker 2>at home first week of September against ole Miss.

0:32:14.080 --> 0:32:16.440
<v Speaker 1>Who knows what state ole Miss will be in by then,

0:32:17.480 --> 0:32:19.600
<v Speaker 1>But just a lot of variables on that schedule that

0:32:19.680 --> 0:32:24.160
<v Speaker 1>leave me a little uncomfortable. I would turn a skeptical

0:32:24.240 --> 0:32:28.360
<v Speaker 1>eye towards teams that are replacing both an offensive coordinator

0:32:28.440 --> 0:32:33.360
<v Speaker 1>and a quarterback. That that's I mean, So that's quasi lsu.

0:32:33.560 --> 0:32:35.240
<v Speaker 1>I mean, Miles Brennan's been in the system for a

0:32:35.280 --> 0:32:38.040
<v Speaker 1>while and Steve Bensminger is still there, but they're bringing

0:32:38.040 --> 0:32:41.520
<v Speaker 1>in new obviously a passing game coordinator to take over

0:32:41.600 --> 0:32:44.720
<v Speaker 1>for Joe Brady. So that's a concern. Alabama's in a

0:32:44.760 --> 0:32:48.160
<v Speaker 1>good place. They returned Mac Jones and obviously the freshman

0:32:48.480 --> 0:32:53.000
<v Speaker 1>Bryce Young, So I think Alabama is a good place

0:32:53.040 --> 0:32:56.880
<v Speaker 1>to like the over ole miss new coach, but returning

0:32:56.960 --> 0:33:02.440
<v Speaker 1>quarterback is nice, Tennessee nice a and m nice Georgia.

0:33:02.680 --> 0:33:07.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm worried Florida. I like Auburn, I think I like,

0:33:07.160 --> 0:33:10.760
<v Speaker 1>but I don't love Bonnicks. So that's where I would

0:33:10.800 --> 0:33:13.560
<v Speaker 1>actually try to go with the under George eight and

0:33:13.560 --> 0:33:17.040
<v Speaker 1>a half. I would probably go under. I think it's

0:33:17.080 --> 0:33:19.800
<v Speaker 1>probably an eight win Georgia team. I have not fully

0:33:19.800 --> 0:33:21.760
<v Speaker 1>we haven't done our SEC preview yet, so I can't

0:33:21.960 --> 0:33:25.600
<v Speaker 1>fully speak to it, but purely based on Georgia's schedule,

0:33:25.680 --> 0:33:28.840
<v Speaker 1>getting Alabama on the road, obviously Florida neutral site game

0:33:29.320 --> 0:33:33.120
<v Speaker 1>and everything else looks pretty good, but they still do.

0:33:33.200 --> 0:33:36.920
<v Speaker 1>They have Auburn week two with new coordinator, new quarterback,

0:33:37.160 --> 0:33:40.479
<v Speaker 1>They've got the buye before Florida. They've got State and

0:33:40.520 --> 0:33:44.240
<v Speaker 1>Mike Leach Air Raid Sandwich between two winnable games, but

0:33:44.280 --> 0:33:49.480
<v Speaker 1>still probably strange. So eight seems about right to me

0:33:49.600 --> 0:33:51.880
<v Speaker 1>that there's at least an okay shot that they lose too.

0:33:52.520 --> 0:33:55.320
<v Speaker 2>The one that I really like here, and I'm not

0:33:55.360 --> 0:33:57.720
<v Speaker 2>saying this to be snarky or anything like that. But

0:33:58.120 --> 0:34:01.200
<v Speaker 2>the pick here that I think I would feel most

0:34:01.240 --> 0:34:05.600
<v Speaker 2>confident in on the SEC side Auburn under six and

0:34:05.640 --> 0:34:06.040
<v Speaker 2>a half.

0:34:07.360 --> 0:34:08.040
<v Speaker 1>Walk me through it.

0:34:08.280 --> 0:34:12.000
<v Speaker 2>Auburn's on the road at Georgia. They've got a home

0:34:12.040 --> 0:34:15.839
<v Speaker 2>game against LSU, a road game against Alabama. I think

0:34:15.880 --> 0:34:17.840
<v Speaker 2>there's probably three losses right there.

0:34:18.360 --> 0:34:19.560
<v Speaker 1>It's a tough end stretch.

0:34:20.080 --> 0:34:23.239
<v Speaker 2>I think that's probably three losses. And then on top

0:34:23.280 --> 0:34:26.960
<v Speaker 2>of that, so that's already three losses in my unofficial

0:34:27.000 --> 0:34:30.040
<v Speaker 2>math here. That means that in order to hit that over,

0:34:30.440 --> 0:34:34.120
<v Speaker 2>they'd have to win out. There are some interesting games here.

0:34:34.640 --> 0:34:39.279
<v Speaker 2>There's a road tilt against Ole Miss a week before

0:34:39.320 --> 0:34:41.960
<v Speaker 2>they come back home against LSUS, so perhaps some look

0:34:41.960 --> 0:34:46.880
<v Speaker 2>ahead potential there. Okay, there's a road tilt against Mississippi uble.

0:34:46.760 --> 0:34:49.320
<v Speaker 1>Road too, Right, They've got Carolina and Ole Miss.

0:34:49.239 --> 0:34:52.439
<v Speaker 2>Carolina and all Miss back to back. When they come

0:34:52.480 --> 0:34:55.839
<v Speaker 2>back off a bye week first week of November, they

0:34:55.880 --> 0:34:59.000
<v Speaker 2>go to Mississippi State. They've got a game against Tennessee

0:34:59.040 --> 0:35:01.959
<v Speaker 2>in there before a game against Alabama, and then after

0:35:01.960 --> 0:35:05.279
<v Speaker 2>they get beaten up by Alabama. Sorry Auburn fans hates,

0:35:05.520 --> 0:35:08.280
<v Speaker 2>wow what they after they get beaten up by Alabama.

0:35:08.280 --> 0:35:11.400
<v Speaker 1>Sorry, how many times exactly has bo Nicks lost to Alabama?

0:35:11.760 --> 0:35:13.600
<v Speaker 1>If you can do that math on the fly.

0:35:14.040 --> 0:35:16.320
<v Speaker 2>Then they come back home to square off against Texas

0:35:16.360 --> 0:35:16.839
<v Speaker 2>A and M.

0:35:18.000 --> 0:35:21.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, it's it's definitely a tough November early December.

0:35:21.960 --> 0:35:25.960
<v Speaker 1>So I'm not as confident in that because I'm just

0:35:26.080 --> 0:35:29.480
<v Speaker 1>consistently as a fan of a team who's played against

0:35:29.480 --> 0:35:32.960
<v Speaker 1>an Auburn defense and good offenses, who played against recent

0:35:33.040 --> 0:35:36.960
<v Speaker 1>Auburn defenses, I'm always impressed by Auburn. I think you

0:35:37.080 --> 0:35:38.920
<v Speaker 1>might be. I know you're talking about this in the

0:35:38.920 --> 0:35:43.200
<v Speaker 1>context of probability, but I don't think I'm as down

0:35:43.239 --> 0:35:45.560
<v Speaker 1>in Auburn as you are. Though the losses on offense

0:35:45.600 --> 0:35:48.560
<v Speaker 1>are concerning, and you know, working in Chad Morris, is

0:35:49.040 --> 0:35:50.600
<v Speaker 1>you know how much autonomy is he going to have?

0:35:50.640 --> 0:35:53.520
<v Speaker 1>That's always the question on the sideline at Auburn, So

0:35:53.800 --> 0:35:57.799
<v Speaker 1>I understand it. But with Gus as the steadying force

0:35:57.880 --> 0:35:59.520
<v Speaker 1>on offense, I don't think it's as big a deal.

0:35:59.600 --> 0:36:03.040
<v Speaker 1>So I yeah, I'm not as down on the Tigers there.

0:36:03.600 --> 0:36:08.200
<v Speaker 2>Interestingly enough, your favorite, though to win the SEC Championship

0:36:08.320 --> 0:36:10.240
<v Speaker 2>is Alabama.

0:36:10.440 --> 0:36:13.920
<v Speaker 1>Yes, even though they're not the favorite for win total Yeah.

0:36:13.719 --> 0:36:16.600
<v Speaker 2>Even though they're not the favorite for win total. Alabama

0:36:16.680 --> 0:36:21.480
<v Speaker 2>is favored Georgia, Florida, LSU, Texas, A and M. That's

0:36:21.520 --> 0:36:25.680
<v Speaker 2>your top five, And interestingly enough, Tennessee is above Auburn.

0:36:25.719 --> 0:36:28.040
<v Speaker 2>Tennessee is at twenty five to one Auburn at thirty

0:36:28.040 --> 0:36:30.200
<v Speaker 2>to one to win the SEC Championship.

0:36:30.960 --> 0:36:33.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. When Alabama actually has to play in the game,

0:36:34.840 --> 0:36:38.520
<v Speaker 1>the SEC Championship game, they tend to fare pretty well.

0:36:38.840 --> 0:36:41.640
<v Speaker 1>So I like it's move on to the Big twelve.

0:36:42.160 --> 0:36:49.400
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So no surprise here as we look at the

0:36:49.400 --> 0:36:53.280
<v Speaker 2>Big twelve, this is another conference playing what ten games?

0:36:53.840 --> 0:36:59.239
<v Speaker 1>Ten games? Oklahoma plus one. Oklahoma sits at eight and

0:36:59.280 --> 0:37:05.240
<v Speaker 1>a half for their over under. Is that number? Okay?

0:37:06.200 --> 0:37:09.560
<v Speaker 1>Does that number one game? Does it hinge on? What's there?

0:37:09.960 --> 0:37:12.640
<v Speaker 1>What's their game number two that's going to give them

0:37:12.640 --> 0:37:15.160
<v Speaker 1>a scare and maybe they win close and win nine

0:37:15.800 --> 0:37:18.680
<v Speaker 1>or they lose that second game because they've been known

0:37:18.760 --> 0:37:21.200
<v Speaker 1>to lose one of those, like they did last year

0:37:21.239 --> 0:37:23.880
<v Speaker 1>to Kansas State. So if you look at their schedule,

0:37:24.120 --> 0:37:26.640
<v Speaker 1>what is the Okay, so the most likely loss is

0:37:26.760 --> 0:37:29.120
<v Speaker 1>Texas on the neutral field, we can agree.

0:37:28.840 --> 0:37:32.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's obviously the Texas game Dan. But the week before, yeah,

0:37:32.920 --> 0:37:37.080
<v Speaker 2>first week of October on the road at Jack Trice

0:37:37.840 --> 0:37:40.280
<v Speaker 2>against Iowa State could be interesting.

0:37:41.480 --> 0:37:43.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, you know, I love me some parties,

0:37:43.360 --> 0:37:48.520
<v Speaker 1>So I think that Let's see, they're in Fort Worth,

0:37:48.719 --> 0:37:52.160
<v Speaker 1>they're in Lubbock, but that's not a look ahead. TCU

0:37:52.239 --> 0:37:55.480
<v Speaker 1>is not a look ahead. Before Lubbock, they've got Bedlam,

0:37:55.880 --> 0:38:01.480
<v Speaker 1>but bedlam's at home. Uh, you know, the Baylor game.

0:38:01.960 --> 0:38:04.360
<v Speaker 1>I suppose to close out the year if they're feeling

0:38:04.360 --> 0:38:06.440
<v Speaker 1>like it doesn't mean anything. Man, I'm down on Baylor.

0:38:06.480 --> 0:38:09.360
<v Speaker 1>You know that. I know you are, so okay, So

0:38:11.080 --> 0:38:16.239
<v Speaker 1>I think that's right. Yeah, going to Ames Is it's

0:38:16.239 --> 0:38:17.960
<v Speaker 1>good for a scare at the very least. So yeah,

0:38:17.960 --> 0:38:20.120
<v Speaker 1>I think that's where the second Los Angeles.

0:38:21.120 --> 0:38:23.200
<v Speaker 2>I you know, I sort of get it on the

0:38:23.239 --> 0:38:27.319
<v Speaker 2>Oklahoma side, only sorta. I know they've got the new

0:38:27.400 --> 0:38:30.319
<v Speaker 2>quarterback and gosh, now we've got news about the coronavirus,

0:38:30.400 --> 0:38:33.120
<v Speaker 2>so who knows which direction those things go.

0:38:33.920 --> 0:38:37.920
<v Speaker 1>But you already disrespected Spencer Ratler, so you must love

0:38:37.960 --> 0:38:40.960
<v Speaker 1>the under here. I kind of like the old you

0:38:41.200 --> 0:38:46.799
<v Speaker 1>disrespected Spencer Rattler. I like the over. The one I

0:38:46.800 --> 0:38:49.279
<v Speaker 1>don't get is Texas. What if I gave you a

0:38:49.360 --> 0:38:53.840
<v Speaker 1>nine and a half over under, ooh, I probably wouldn't

0:38:53.920 --> 0:38:55.680
<v Speaker 1>touch that, but I feel like that's a better line.

0:38:56.840 --> 0:39:00.360
<v Speaker 1>Do you think nine and a half is better? Yeah?

0:39:00.560 --> 0:39:04.680
<v Speaker 1>So they were a whisker away from losing to Baylor

0:39:04.800 --> 0:39:07.640
<v Speaker 1>last year because then the question is the question is

0:39:07.640 --> 0:39:09.920
<v Speaker 1>do they win all ten or do they lose? Well,

0:39:09.920 --> 0:39:11.320
<v Speaker 1>they were a whsk away from Baylor twice.

0:39:11.360 --> 0:39:15.399
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, oh all right, Like I said, the one

0:39:15.400 --> 0:39:21.360
<v Speaker 2>that really gives me pause is Texas. Okay, why Texas

0:39:21.440 --> 0:39:23.399
<v Speaker 2>on this list that I'm looking at is that's seven

0:39:23.400 --> 0:39:27.000
<v Speaker 2>and a half wins, and we know the Oklahoma game.

0:39:27.040 --> 0:39:29.399
<v Speaker 2>We can count that just for our purposes as one.

0:39:30.000 --> 0:39:31.400
<v Speaker 2>But in order to hit the under, you need to

0:39:31.400 --> 0:39:35.920
<v Speaker 2>find two more, two more on this. Most of their

0:39:35.960 --> 0:39:40.680
<v Speaker 2>big games are at home. Right We've got an Oklahoma

0:39:40.680 --> 0:39:43.759
<v Speaker 2>State game on the road Boon Pickin Stadium. That'll be

0:39:43.800 --> 0:39:46.279
<v Speaker 2>a tough place to play. But I mean, they got

0:39:46.280 --> 0:39:48.040
<v Speaker 2>to go to Kansas, they got to go to k State.

0:39:48.719 --> 0:39:52.520
<v Speaker 2>Texas Tech, Like, I'm not that worried about those games.

0:39:52.560 --> 0:39:54.600
<v Speaker 2>Even if they lose the week before the Red River

0:39:54.640 --> 0:40:00.160
<v Speaker 2>shootout when they're at home against TCU, Yeah, it's you

0:40:00.160 --> 0:40:01.880
<v Speaker 2>still need to get one other game in there if

0:40:01.880 --> 0:40:04.480
<v Speaker 2>you want to hit that under. So my inclination at

0:40:04.480 --> 0:40:07.000
<v Speaker 2>this point is to go over seven and a half

0:40:07.280 --> 0:40:08.240
<v Speaker 2>on that Texas slide.

0:40:09.160 --> 0:40:12.080
<v Speaker 1>Can I hit you with a novel theory, a very

0:40:12.160 --> 0:40:18.680
<v Speaker 1>new theory? Please? Could Texas suffer from the first ever

0:40:19.000 --> 0:40:21.919
<v Speaker 1>let down look ahead sandwich in week one being let

0:40:22.000 --> 0:40:27.960
<v Speaker 1>down by twenty twenty and looking ahead to TCU in

0:40:28.000 --> 0:40:33.880
<v Speaker 1>Oklahoma after Texas Tech in Lubbock? I mean, what do

0:40:33.920 --> 0:40:37.000
<v Speaker 1>we know about Alan Bowman? Is he healthy? I would

0:40:37.040 --> 0:40:40.360
<v Speaker 1>take week one Texas Tech ahead of many other weeks

0:40:40.400 --> 0:40:45.800
<v Speaker 1>of Texas Tech in recent history and the old twenty

0:40:45.880 --> 0:40:52.160
<v Speaker 1>twenty letdown early October look Ahead Texas goes down to

0:40:52.200 --> 0:40:57.560
<v Speaker 1>Texas Tech Week one Matt Wellsier two. They lost a

0:40:57.600 --> 0:41:01.600
<v Speaker 1>lot of weird games twenty nineteen of those games coming

0:41:01.640 --> 0:41:03.719
<v Speaker 1>out fired up. Let me read through some of these

0:41:03.760 --> 0:41:04.439
<v Speaker 1>other ones quick.

0:41:04.440 --> 0:41:07.960
<v Speaker 2>We've got Oklahoma State at seven, Iowa State at six

0:41:08.000 --> 0:41:09.520
<v Speaker 2>and a half, Baylor at six and a half. I

0:41:09.600 --> 0:41:14.280
<v Speaker 2>go under on Baylor a big time going ye yeah.

0:41:14.080 --> 0:41:15.719
<v Speaker 1>I could see a five and five year where by

0:41:15.760 --> 0:41:18.160
<v Speaker 1>the end of the season, if there is you know,

0:41:18.360 --> 0:41:21.279
<v Speaker 1>everything goes as planned that they've they've come together a

0:41:21.320 --> 0:41:23.400
<v Speaker 1>little bit more. I just I'm worried about Charlie Brewers

0:41:23.480 --> 0:41:26.680
<v Speaker 1>health and I know they've recruited quarterback pretty well behind him.

0:41:27.040 --> 0:41:29.680
<v Speaker 1>But it's everything new. It's you know, even though Charlie

0:41:29.719 --> 0:41:32.600
<v Speaker 1>Brewer's back, his health isn't guaranteed for a full season,

0:41:33.120 --> 0:41:37.600
<v Speaker 1>and new coaching staff, new offense, new terminology, new receivers

0:41:37.600 --> 0:41:40.799
<v Speaker 1>to get used to or full time receivers. Yeah, I'd

0:41:40.800 --> 0:41:42.200
<v Speaker 1>be a little bit worried about Baylor at six and

0:41:42.200 --> 0:41:42.520
<v Speaker 1>a half.

0:41:42.600 --> 0:41:45.759
<v Speaker 2>My my lock is TCU at six, I go over,

0:41:46.640 --> 0:41:49.920
<v Speaker 2>I go over over six. Yeah, they're going to have

0:41:49.920 --> 0:41:51.280
<v Speaker 2>a good defense.

0:41:51.680 --> 0:41:54.880
<v Speaker 1>So who is who's getting them to seven? You like

0:41:54.880 --> 0:41:57.319
<v Speaker 1>Oklahoma State's defense, which is pretty good. It was fine

0:41:57.400 --> 0:42:00.919
<v Speaker 1>last season. Even if you talked about, yeah.

0:42:00.760 --> 0:42:04.520
<v Speaker 2>A loss against Iowa State, at Texas and against Oklahoma,

0:42:04.680 --> 0:42:08.239
<v Speaker 2>you still need to get one other loss to get

0:42:08.239 --> 0:42:10.640
<v Speaker 2>to six. So the only way you can lose this

0:42:10.680 --> 0:42:13.919
<v Speaker 2>bet is if they lose five games, right, And they're

0:42:13.960 --> 0:42:14.800
<v Speaker 2>not gonna lose five.

0:42:14.680 --> 0:42:17.880
<v Speaker 1>Games Oklahoma, Texas, Iowa State, Baylor's on the road. I

0:42:17.920 --> 0:42:20.279
<v Speaker 1>know you don't love Baylor, and that's coming off of

0:42:20.320 --> 0:42:25.560
<v Speaker 1>a bye for the Pokes. Kansas looking forward to the

0:42:25.560 --> 0:42:26.839
<v Speaker 1>buy on the road.

0:42:26.880 --> 0:42:29.080
<v Speaker 2>It would have to lose five games for you to

0:42:29.120 --> 0:42:30.920
<v Speaker 2>lose that bet, so I'd be inclined to go over.

0:42:30.960 --> 0:42:33.840
<v Speaker 2>You're getting like even money based on the line I'm seeing,

0:42:34.640 --> 0:42:38.480
<v Speaker 2>and I think worst case scenario is a push give

0:42:38.520 --> 0:42:39.000
<v Speaker 2>me that over.

0:42:41.560 --> 0:42:43.919
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, we're just looking at Big twelve schedules here,

0:42:44.040 --> 0:42:45.680
<v Speaker 1>or at least I am just looking at Big twelve

0:42:45.680 --> 0:42:53.640
<v Speaker 1>schedules here. Yeah, I might go under. Wow, I don't know.

0:42:53.680 --> 0:42:56.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm not crazy about Oklahoma State. We talked about that already,

0:42:57.480 --> 0:43:01.319
<v Speaker 1>just because I think their scheduled, so they have I

0:43:01.360 --> 0:43:04.279
<v Speaker 1>think how many teams have four in a row because

0:43:04.320 --> 0:43:06.720
<v Speaker 1>there are two byes built into the Big twelve schedule.

0:43:06.760 --> 0:43:08.960
<v Speaker 1>So West Virginia has five in a row in the

0:43:09.000 --> 0:43:10.880
<v Speaker 1>middle of the season, Texas Tech has a four in

0:43:10.880 --> 0:43:13.239
<v Speaker 1>a row, Oklahoma State has a four and oh four

0:43:13.280 --> 0:43:15.920
<v Speaker 1>in a row. TCU has a four in a row,

0:43:16.160 --> 0:43:18.799
<v Speaker 1>Kansas has a four and ERH four in a row,

0:43:18.840 --> 0:43:22.200
<v Speaker 1>and Baylor has a five in a row. Weird how

0:43:22.239 --> 0:43:27.960
<v Speaker 1>both Texas and Oklahoma, Kansas State who beat Oklahoma last year,

0:43:28.000 --> 0:43:32.920
<v Speaker 1>who seems to have some momentum, and Iowa State with

0:43:33.000 --> 0:43:37.960
<v Speaker 1>their quarterback. They only have threes in a row. Huh yeah, yeah, interesting,

0:43:38.760 --> 0:43:42.080
<v Speaker 1>So I actually am feeling now more confident in the

0:43:42.120 --> 0:43:44.200
<v Speaker 1>teams that don't have the four in a row, even

0:43:44.200 --> 0:43:46.919
<v Speaker 1>though that's extremely normal for a football season to play

0:43:46.920 --> 0:43:50.360
<v Speaker 1>four consecutive weeks. With all the uncertainty surrounding this fall,

0:43:50.840 --> 0:43:53.279
<v Speaker 1>that is, it does seem like an advantage to have

0:43:53.360 --> 0:43:55.840
<v Speaker 1>those two bys spaced as they are for those few teams.

0:43:57.200 --> 0:44:02.040
<v Speaker 2>With regard to who's going to win the conference championship game. Yeah,

0:44:02.880 --> 0:44:05.600
<v Speaker 2>Oklahoma and Texas are both at plus one twenty five,

0:44:07.239 --> 0:44:10.080
<v Speaker 2>so that means you bet one hundred bucks, get one

0:44:10.160 --> 0:44:11.040
<v Speaker 2>twenty five back.

0:44:11.680 --> 0:44:15.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it doesn't surprise me there at equal odds.

0:44:16.080 --> 0:44:18.520
<v Speaker 2>I think the smart money would be that both those

0:44:18.520 --> 0:44:20.640
<v Speaker 2>teams end up in that conference championship game.

0:44:21.680 --> 0:44:24.400
<v Speaker 1>If you were a betting man, though, you might look to.

0:44:24.360 --> 0:44:27.120
<v Speaker 2>See if you can get better value elsewhere. You want

0:44:27.120 --> 0:44:31.000
<v Speaker 2>to throw a few shekels on TCU at thirty to one.

0:44:31.440 --> 0:44:34.799
<v Speaker 1>See that's not being realistic though, thirty to one, that's

0:44:35.160 --> 0:44:40.080
<v Speaker 1>that's throwing away your money. Good defense, Dan, It's okay,

0:44:40.120 --> 0:44:41.200
<v Speaker 1>it's a fine defense.

0:44:42.400 --> 0:44:46.720
<v Speaker 2>How about okay, seven and a half to one Iowa State,

0:44:50.080 --> 0:44:52.920
<v Speaker 2>so they're going to lose two games for sure.

0:44:54.200 --> 0:44:56.520
<v Speaker 1>To me, just because they're Iowa State. I know you

0:44:56.560 --> 0:44:59.400
<v Speaker 1>can take advantage of a weird year, but it just

0:44:59.400 --> 0:45:02.520
<v Speaker 1>feels like they're going to lose two games if they

0:45:02.560 --> 0:45:06.520
<v Speaker 1>can worm into the championship game. They have what Oklahoma

0:45:06.560 --> 0:45:10.320
<v Speaker 1>at home and they have Texas on the road in Austin.

0:45:11.200 --> 0:45:14.239
<v Speaker 1>So let's say they split those two games and they

0:45:14.280 --> 0:45:17.440
<v Speaker 1>lose I don't know, to Oklahoma State or TCU to

0:45:17.480 --> 0:45:20.480
<v Speaker 1>open up the season, and that gets them to eight

0:45:20.520 --> 0:45:25.239
<v Speaker 1>and two. That's probably the best case scenario. That means

0:45:25.280 --> 0:45:26.960
<v Speaker 1>that Brock Party is having a hell of a year.

0:45:27.640 --> 0:45:30.480
<v Speaker 1>That means that the developing guys on offense and defense

0:45:31.480 --> 0:45:36.759
<v Speaker 1>around I think pretty sound schemes. So I'm more inclined

0:45:36.760 --> 0:45:39.360
<v Speaker 1>to roll with a good quarterback in Brock Purty than

0:45:39.400 --> 0:45:42.440
<v Speaker 1>I am with a pretty still large unknown in Max Duggan.

0:45:42.600 --> 0:45:46.600
<v Speaker 1>So I think that's a little bit better, all right,

0:45:47.320 --> 0:45:49.759
<v Speaker 1>final And we've seen Iowa State perform later on in

0:45:49.800 --> 0:45:51.719
<v Speaker 1>the year. In the last couple of years, we've seen

0:45:51.760 --> 0:45:53.399
<v Speaker 1>them come on stronger at the end of the year.

0:45:53.480 --> 0:45:56.760
<v Speaker 1>So I like it, and I think I'm a little

0:45:56.760 --> 0:45:59.200
<v Speaker 1>bit down because what do we call it, Like the stinker.

0:45:59.280 --> 0:46:01.600
<v Speaker 1>Sam Ellingers always good for a sink, a stinker, a

0:46:01.640 --> 0:46:05.439
<v Speaker 1>Sammy stinker, and I like Sam Ellinger a lot. That's

0:46:05.480 --> 0:46:09.200
<v Speaker 1>the concerning thing where there's an expectation about Texas whereas

0:46:09.640 --> 0:46:11.200
<v Speaker 1>Iowa states in the gravy position.

0:46:12.480 --> 0:46:18.279
<v Speaker 2>The final Power five knee Power three NAE conference here

0:46:18.480 --> 0:46:23.800
<v Speaker 2>is the ACC, the newly expanded ACC, now with fifteen teams.

0:46:25.160 --> 0:46:27.839
<v Speaker 2>It should come as no great surprise that Clemson's over

0:46:27.920 --> 0:46:32.840
<v Speaker 2>under his ten and a half Clampson. I think I

0:46:32.880 --> 0:46:35.839
<v Speaker 2>would run to the bank laughing and go with over

0:46:35.920 --> 0:46:39.360
<v Speaker 2>ten and a half. Over ten and a half feels

0:46:40.040 --> 0:46:43.720
<v Speaker 2>like a very very strong play at this early junture.

0:46:44.600 --> 0:46:50.320
<v Speaker 2>But who's beating Clemson Notre Dame in South Bend? Again,

0:46:50.360 --> 0:46:51.760
<v Speaker 2>I asked, who's beating Clemson?

0:46:52.360 --> 0:46:55.400
<v Speaker 1>You're still you're that that's that's something that's a gast

0:46:56.120 --> 0:47:04.239
<v Speaker 1>to you that No, I'm counting that for Notre Dame. Yeah,

0:47:04.280 --> 0:47:08.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean the road situation Wake Forest with a new

0:47:08.160 --> 0:47:10.440
<v Speaker 1>full time starting quarterback Georgia Tech in year two, which

0:47:10.480 --> 0:47:12.919
<v Speaker 1>I think is going to be improved. Notre Dame, which

0:47:13.360 --> 0:47:17.239
<v Speaker 1>has that nice combination of quarterback and defense. For as

0:47:17.360 --> 0:47:21.120
<v Speaker 1>much guff as I give Ian book he's pretty good.

0:47:21.520 --> 0:47:25.800
<v Speaker 1>He's not a bad quarterback, and I like that combination.

0:47:26.000 --> 0:47:30.359
<v Speaker 1>Florida State should be better by the end of November.

0:47:31.040 --> 0:47:33.279
<v Speaker 1>Virginia Tech to close out the year is tough. I

0:47:34.120 --> 0:47:36.400
<v Speaker 1>think you're I can't really make a strong case. But

0:47:36.440 --> 0:47:39.680
<v Speaker 1>all it takes is one loss. All it takes is one.

0:47:39.840 --> 0:47:42.600
<v Speaker 2>All it takes is one. By the way Pitt Panthers

0:47:43.440 --> 0:47:47.880
<v Speaker 2>as a potential let down look ahead end of November

0:47:48.120 --> 0:47:50.239
<v Speaker 2>is interesting to me, But no, I just I don't.

0:47:51.440 --> 0:47:53.879
<v Speaker 2>I don't see it happening. So ten and a half

0:47:53.920 --> 0:47:56.839
<v Speaker 2>to me, I feel like I would go over on

0:47:56.880 --> 0:48:01.120
<v Speaker 2>that one. The more interesting one the ACC is I

0:48:01.120 --> 0:48:04.880
<v Speaker 2>think when you get down to the next peg. So again,

0:48:04.920 --> 0:48:07.000
<v Speaker 2>Notre Dame is now kind of like a full conference

0:48:07.040 --> 0:48:10.120
<v Speaker 2>member at least for one season or one season only.

0:48:10.920 --> 0:48:14.319
<v Speaker 2>And based on what I see here, they are kind

0:48:14.360 --> 0:48:17.920
<v Speaker 2>of like the favorite to be number two in conference.

0:48:18.680 --> 0:48:21.600
<v Speaker 2>They're over under is eight and a half. Now, another

0:48:21.760 --> 0:48:26.040
<v Speaker 2>important thing that we should mention here, I believe ACC

0:48:26.160 --> 0:48:28.520
<v Speaker 2>teams are trying to play eleven games.

0:48:28.600 --> 0:48:31.640
<v Speaker 1>Is that correct? One, two, three, four, five, six, heaven,

0:48:31.719 --> 0:48:33.080
<v Speaker 1>eight nine, ten, Yes.

0:48:34.560 --> 0:48:38.040
<v Speaker 2>So we got another game to work with here. If

0:48:38.080 --> 0:48:40.840
<v Speaker 2>we're thinking of this in terms of Notre Dame. In

0:48:40.960 --> 0:48:43.680
<v Speaker 2>terms of eight and a half. I'm not worried about

0:48:43.680 --> 0:48:47.279
<v Speaker 2>that game that they picked up against. I think USF, right,

0:48:47.320 --> 0:48:54.080
<v Speaker 2>I think they'll be okay against USF, but probably lost

0:48:54.080 --> 0:48:58.279
<v Speaker 2>to Clemson, maybe lost somewhere along the way to a

0:48:58.320 --> 0:49:04.360
<v Speaker 2>team like a little bit or a North Carolina. But

0:49:04.520 --> 0:49:06.279
<v Speaker 2>eight and a half feels like a pretty strong play

0:49:06.320 --> 0:49:09.799
<v Speaker 2>to me. I like the Notre Dame over, Yeah, I do.

0:49:11.440 --> 0:49:13.520
<v Speaker 1>I just go over now that I talk myself into.

0:49:13.680 --> 0:49:16.600
<v Speaker 1>I know they're, you know, moving forward with either tom

0:49:16.680 --> 0:49:18.560
<v Speaker 1>or Tommy Reese. I can never keep it straight. But

0:49:18.680 --> 0:49:21.280
<v Speaker 1>he's back to Tommy now. He is back to Tommy.

0:49:21.320 --> 0:49:23.600
<v Speaker 1>So he is an in program, higher, he's a promotion.

0:49:23.800 --> 0:49:26.680
<v Speaker 1>He's not presumably going to be changing too many things.

0:49:26.760 --> 0:49:30.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure he's going to be adjusting somewhat, but there's

0:49:30.080 --> 0:49:32.319
<v Speaker 1>a familiarity there with him as a coach, as an

0:49:32.320 --> 0:49:34.640
<v Speaker 1>offensive coach, and I think what he called the plays

0:49:34.680 --> 0:49:38.040
<v Speaker 1>in the bowl game, so that that seems like a

0:49:38.040 --> 0:49:40.560
<v Speaker 1>positive sign. I like Clark Lee a lot on defense.

0:49:40.640 --> 0:49:44.880
<v Speaker 1>I like how they recruited on defense. So yeah, I'm

0:49:44.920 --> 0:49:48.080
<v Speaker 1>confident that Notre Dame is specifically built situationally to have

0:49:48.239 --> 0:49:50.279
<v Speaker 1>a pretty nice year. So I'm gonna go over there.

0:49:51.200 --> 0:49:54.239
<v Speaker 2>By the way, that USF game isn't officially official, but

0:49:54.280 --> 0:49:55.040
<v Speaker 2>they're it.

0:49:55.080 --> 0:49:56.920
<v Speaker 1>That's okay, they're working on it. So I like the

0:49:57.000 --> 0:49:57.439
<v Speaker 1>over there.

0:49:57.480 --> 0:50:00.759
<v Speaker 2>I think we're in agreement. Look through some of the

0:50:00.800 --> 0:50:04.160
<v Speaker 2>other teams on here. We've got North Carolina and Virginia

0:50:04.200 --> 0:50:07.799
<v Speaker 2>Tech at seven and a half, Louisville, Florida State both

0:50:07.840 --> 0:50:11.279
<v Speaker 2>at seven, pitt In wake Forest at six, and then

0:50:11.320 --> 0:50:13.239
<v Speaker 2>you go down a bit Virginia five and a half,

0:50:13.360 --> 0:50:18.200
<v Speaker 2>Duke five, Syracuse five, NC State four, BC four, Georgia

0:50:18.280 --> 0:50:19.520
<v Speaker 2>Tech two and a half, Den.

0:50:20.920 --> 0:50:26.080
<v Speaker 1>Two and a half. Yeah, it's gonna be a strange year.

0:50:26.440 --> 0:50:31.000
<v Speaker 1>I wonder man, there's a lot of interesting young quarterbacks

0:50:31.600 --> 0:50:39.120
<v Speaker 1>just between McHale, Kale, Sam, Sam Howell, Hendon Hooker. I

0:50:39.880 --> 0:50:42.799
<v Speaker 1>like the idea of one of those teams making a

0:50:42.840 --> 0:50:46.600
<v Speaker 1>really nice leap. Louisville has what they have Notre Dame

0:50:46.640 --> 0:50:50.520
<v Speaker 1>on the road, but they finish pretty nicely, right. Louisville

0:50:50.520 --> 0:50:53.720
<v Speaker 1>finishes with Syracuse, Boston College on the road, and Wake

0:50:54.440 --> 0:50:58.160
<v Speaker 1>So I think I feel good about the Louisville over

0:50:58.360 --> 0:51:00.759
<v Speaker 1>maybe Virginia Tech under, but I think they still have

0:51:00.800 --> 0:51:03.239
<v Speaker 1>a nice year, or maybe it's too close to call.

0:51:03.320 --> 0:51:05.640
<v Speaker 1>Maybe it's a stay away from me, Ty, Should we

0:51:05.680 --> 0:51:08.640
<v Speaker 1>talk about Pitt? I would love to talk about Pitt.

0:51:09.360 --> 0:51:13.720
<v Speaker 1>What do you want to talk about with Pitt? I'd

0:51:13.760 --> 0:51:17.520
<v Speaker 1>like to talk without having thoroughly studied their roster. Their

0:51:17.640 --> 0:51:24.120
<v Speaker 1>road slate is the first part of the season pretty great, right,

0:51:24.200 --> 0:51:27.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean, the fact is they have and it's very

0:51:27.080 --> 0:51:30.239
<v Speaker 1>confusing because the acc print out of the schedule home

0:51:30.280 --> 0:51:32.000
<v Speaker 1>games are in white and the big twelve the home

0:51:32.000 --> 0:51:34.000
<v Speaker 1>games are in gray. For some odd reason the ones

0:51:34.040 --> 0:51:37.879
<v Speaker 1>I printed out. But Pitt, it's not a terrible thing.

0:51:37.960 --> 0:51:46.000
<v Speaker 1>Like they could start five and oh Austin p the governors, governors, Syracuse, Louisville,

0:51:46.520 --> 0:51:49.919
<v Speaker 1>n C State on the road at Boston College. Those

0:51:49.920 --> 0:51:52.080
<v Speaker 1>are their first five games. I don't think so they're

0:51:52.120 --> 0:51:54.320
<v Speaker 1>not on the road. They're not on the road until

0:51:54.320 --> 0:51:54.880
<v Speaker 1>week five.

0:51:55.120 --> 0:51:57.319
<v Speaker 2>Until week five, I don't think they're beating Louisville. But

0:51:58.440 --> 0:51:59.919
<v Speaker 2>point taken games at home.

0:52:00.560 --> 0:52:02.560
<v Speaker 1>Louisville has Miami the week before.

0:52:03.440 --> 0:52:06.759
<v Speaker 2>It's possible. Yeah, five and zero is it's there. It's

0:52:06.800 --> 0:52:07.840
<v Speaker 2>on the table.

0:52:09.120 --> 0:52:12.759
<v Speaker 1>Now. It's a tough you know. After that, it's like

0:52:13.200 --> 0:52:16.799
<v Speaker 1>Georgia Tech, and then where's the other comfortably winnable game.

0:52:17.680 --> 0:52:22.640
<v Speaker 1>But in a strange year, there's something chewing at the

0:52:22.680 --> 0:52:25.400
<v Speaker 1>back of my brain that says, Pitt is up to

0:52:25.440 --> 0:52:28.880
<v Speaker 1>the task. Pitt is up to being that team in

0:52:28.920 --> 0:52:34.080
<v Speaker 1>a strange year. I don't know. I I'm just I'm

0:52:34.080 --> 0:52:38.920
<v Speaker 1>getting those tingles tie all right, Well, I don't know

0:52:38.920 --> 0:52:42.200
<v Speaker 1>how I feel about that. I can't draw it out

0:52:42.200 --> 0:52:42.360
<v Speaker 1>of it.

0:52:42.480 --> 0:52:46.160
<v Speaker 2>Florida the Florida State one. To me, I truly have

0:52:46.239 --> 0:52:49.320
<v Speaker 2>no idea. I need to do some studying on Florida

0:52:49.400 --> 0:52:52.240
<v Speaker 2>State as we get into our ACC preview. But sure

0:52:52.480 --> 0:52:58.440
<v Speaker 2>I see Rode games against Miami, against Notre Dame, against

0:52:58.560 --> 0:53:03.640
<v Speaker 2>Louisville Louisville. There's also a game in there against Clemson.

0:53:04.840 --> 0:53:09.360
<v Speaker 2>There's your pit Panthers in there. Obviously, there's North Carolina

0:53:09.400 --> 0:53:12.440
<v Speaker 2>the week after Notre Dame before they go on the

0:53:12.520 --> 0:53:14.960
<v Speaker 2>road to the Louisville Cardinals. So there's just a lot

0:53:14.960 --> 0:53:19.640
<v Speaker 2>of uncertainty here. And I like Mike Norvelle. I think

0:53:19.680 --> 0:53:22.640
<v Speaker 2>if given time, he can turn Florida State around and

0:53:23.239 --> 0:53:26.719
<v Speaker 2>revitalize the offense and whatnot. But Florida State has had

0:53:26.760 --> 0:53:31.359
<v Speaker 2>some bumps here. Yeah, over the long offseason thus far,

0:53:32.160 --> 0:53:37.160
<v Speaker 2>not to mention changing schemes and coaching staff and yeah,

0:53:37.440 --> 0:53:39.279
<v Speaker 2>just seems like a lot to look at it.

0:53:39.280 --> 0:53:42.040
<v Speaker 1>It's not a good year to have an unproven like

0:53:42.160 --> 0:53:45.080
<v Speaker 1>a quarterback who has never proven himself to be anything

0:53:45.480 --> 0:53:51.360
<v Speaker 1>above okay, and new coaches all around, uncertainty surrounding the program,

0:53:51.880 --> 0:53:56.560
<v Speaker 1>sometimes having players butt heads with media and the coaches

0:53:56.600 --> 0:54:00.040
<v Speaker 1>and each other, and it just maybe football is that

0:54:00.160 --> 0:54:02.960
<v Speaker 1>thing that everybody can focus on in Tallahassee and it's

0:54:03.120 --> 0:54:05.480
<v Speaker 1>just we're all in it together. It's a weird year.

0:54:05.520 --> 0:54:09.680
<v Speaker 1>It's a weird situation. To win eight games means losing

0:54:10.400 --> 0:54:14.600
<v Speaker 1>basically to Clemson and Notre Dame and hoping for the

0:54:14.640 --> 0:54:19.720
<v Speaker 1>best against Miami on the road and North Carolina at home.

0:54:20.880 --> 0:54:23.840
<v Speaker 1>I think so. Yeah, and seven, I think seven is

0:54:23.880 --> 0:54:26.680
<v Speaker 1>the right number. I don't think i'd win it's Littleva

0:54:26.719 --> 0:54:27.080
<v Speaker 1>on the road.

0:54:27.160 --> 0:54:29.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't think i'd want to bet it, But

0:54:29.680 --> 0:54:31.879
<v Speaker 2>it makes sense to me looking at it that seven

0:54:31.920 --> 0:54:32.560
<v Speaker 2>will be the number.

0:54:32.560 --> 0:54:34.279
<v Speaker 1>There any others that jump out to you in the

0:54:34.320 --> 0:54:36.640
<v Speaker 1>ACC I think I'd probably go under for Florida State.

0:54:40.080 --> 0:54:42.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't think so. Virginia is interesting to me, just

0:54:42.680 --> 0:54:44.320
<v Speaker 1>because they had such a good year last year, but

0:54:44.400 --> 0:54:46.720
<v Speaker 1>they lose so much and so much of that offense

0:54:46.880 --> 0:54:49.359
<v Speaker 1>was Bryce Perkins. Though I know people are a little

0:54:49.360 --> 0:54:52.719
<v Speaker 1>bit optimistic about the quarterbacks that are behind him five

0:54:52.760 --> 0:54:56.680
<v Speaker 1>and a half. That tells me Vegas does not think

0:54:56.719 --> 0:54:59.600
<v Speaker 1>all that much of the Who's So I'm just gonna

0:54:59.600 --> 0:55:03.360
<v Speaker 1>stay away way NC State has, I mean, just on campus.

0:55:03.480 --> 0:55:05.880
<v Speaker 1>NC State's a disaster right now and I have no

0:55:05.920 --> 0:55:08.160
<v Speaker 1>idea what the future holds for them, So I'd probably

0:55:09.120 --> 0:55:11.360
<v Speaker 1>take advantage of that in a very sick way and

0:55:11.440 --> 0:55:12.480
<v Speaker 1>go under Frencis State.

0:55:12.520 --> 0:55:19.600
<v Speaker 2>At this point, no, the ACC Championship odds are skewed

0:55:19.640 --> 0:55:23.520
<v Speaker 2>heavily in favor of the Clemson Tigers. Clemson right now

0:55:23.560 --> 0:55:27.400
<v Speaker 2>at minus three hundred and fifty, which means you'd have

0:55:27.440 --> 0:55:30.280
<v Speaker 2>to bet thirty five bucks to win ten yep.

0:55:30.960 --> 0:55:33.480
<v Speaker 1>Generally not a good bet. Not a good bet.

0:55:35.960 --> 0:55:38.000
<v Speaker 2>I happen to be pretty confident that Clemson is going

0:55:38.080 --> 0:55:40.799
<v Speaker 2>to win, but even still, there's really no there's no

0:55:40.960 --> 0:55:45.080
<v Speaker 2>value there After Clemson. After Clemson, you get to Notre

0:55:45.160 --> 0:55:49.480
<v Speaker 2>Dame at five to one, Miami North Carolina both at

0:55:49.520 --> 0:55:52.680
<v Speaker 2>sixteen to one, and then Florida State at twenty to one.

0:55:53.080 --> 0:55:53.680
<v Speaker 1>The rest of.

0:55:53.600 --> 0:55:57.839
<v Speaker 2>Them, frankly, are real long shots. Pitt Virginia Tech both

0:55:57.880 --> 0:56:01.799
<v Speaker 2>forty to one, Louisville one, NC State one hundred to one,

0:56:02.320 --> 0:56:05.320
<v Speaker 2>Boston College, Duke, and Georgia Tech all two hundred and

0:56:05.400 --> 0:56:07.839
<v Speaker 2>fifty to one. So, if you are to look at

0:56:07.840 --> 0:56:11.480
<v Speaker 2>these odds and come away with anything, Vegas is saying

0:56:11.480 --> 0:56:13.960
<v Speaker 2>that it's most likely going to be Clemson. But if

0:56:14.000 --> 0:56:16.880
<v Speaker 2>it's not, it's either Notre Dame, Miami, North Carolina, or

0:56:16.920 --> 0:56:17.600
<v Speaker 2>Florida State.

0:56:18.840 --> 0:56:23.839
<v Speaker 1>And you don't feel good about the Irish, I mean I.

0:56:23.800 --> 0:56:27.080
<v Speaker 2>Feel good about them generally speaking, I don't feel good

0:56:27.080 --> 0:56:28.200
<v Speaker 2>about them beating Clemson.

0:56:29.160 --> 0:56:31.319
<v Speaker 1>I feel better about that. Good time to get them.

0:56:31.880 --> 0:56:34.359
<v Speaker 1>It'd be a great time to get them. And maybe

0:56:34.640 --> 0:56:35.120
<v Speaker 1>maybe the.

0:56:35.120 --> 0:56:38.759
<v Speaker 2>Play here is to throw some of that caution to

0:56:38.840 --> 0:56:43.480
<v Speaker 2>the wind and instead say, as you've said all along,

0:56:43.800 --> 0:56:47.240
<v Speaker 2>it's a weird season. Yeah, who knows it's gonna happen

0:56:47.280 --> 0:56:50.799
<v Speaker 2>in November, guys sitting out teams being in a bit

0:56:50.840 --> 0:56:53.479
<v Speaker 2>of disarray, even if we make it that far, who knows, right,

0:56:54.719 --> 0:56:58.320
<v Speaker 2>So it stands to reason that any of these teams really.

0:56:59.080 --> 0:57:01.480
<v Speaker 1>Pick out a long pitch pick out Pitt.

0:57:01.400 --> 0:57:04.280
<v Speaker 2>Pick out Virginia Tech. Get some of these long shots.

0:57:04.760 --> 0:57:08.440
<v Speaker 1>Throw a few, throw a fish. Shekels on it. It's

0:57:08.440 --> 0:57:12.719
<v Speaker 1>a weird year. You have too much money. What if

0:57:12.760 --> 0:57:17.440
<v Speaker 1>all of Clemson, Miami and North Carolina gets sick? I

0:57:17.440 --> 0:57:19.080
<v Speaker 1>don't know. I've that again. I'm not going to bet

0:57:19.120 --> 0:57:20.640
<v Speaker 1>on that time. I'm just telling you right now. It's

0:57:20.640 --> 0:57:26.640
<v Speaker 1>August twenty fifth. Yeah, give me the Irish. Just stop it.

0:57:26.960 --> 0:57:29.920
<v Speaker 1>I knew you. Just wake up those echoes, ty, I

0:57:30.000 --> 0:57:32.680
<v Speaker 1>walked right into it. Just give me those Irish.

0:57:33.080 --> 0:57:35.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm not betting on people to get sick, and I'm

0:57:35.360 --> 0:57:36.520
<v Speaker 2>just saying it's a possibility.

0:57:37.360 --> 0:57:38.400
<v Speaker 1>We're going to do this thing.

0:57:38.560 --> 0:57:40.720
<v Speaker 2>If we're going to do this thing, it is a possibility.

0:57:41.480 --> 0:57:44.360
<v Speaker 2>And as we said months ago, there are going to

0:57:44.440 --> 0:57:48.760
<v Speaker 2>be weird gambling ramifications that probably don't feel good, but yes,

0:57:48.760 --> 0:57:50.920
<v Speaker 2>are part of the real world in twenty twenty.

0:57:52.120 --> 0:57:53.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it feels like a Notre Dame season of me.

0:57:58.840 --> 0:57:59.760
<v Speaker 1>Turn that music off.

0:57:59.760 --> 0:58:04.240
<v Speaker 2>All well, we appreciate everyone stopping on buy. As we

0:58:04.280 --> 0:58:08.000
<v Speaker 2>said throughout the course of this episode, Friday is going

0:58:08.040 --> 0:58:11.280
<v Speaker 2>to be your acc preview, Yes, and then at some

0:58:11.400 --> 0:58:14.720
<v Speaker 2>point the following week will eventually make our way over

0:58:14.760 --> 0:58:17.440
<v Speaker 2>to the SEC as well, and then see what other

0:58:17.520 --> 0:58:19.400
<v Speaker 2>kind of conferences we can drizzle in. You know, they're

0:58:19.480 --> 0:58:22.280
<v Speaker 2>they're not the only conferences playing football. There are others

0:58:22.320 --> 0:58:24.000
<v Speaker 2>out there who are trying to do so as well.

0:58:24.080 --> 0:58:28.360
<v Speaker 2>So we'll we'll do our best to present as clear

0:58:28.560 --> 0:58:34.240
<v Speaker 2>and open minded a preview across college football is humanly possible.

0:58:34.320 --> 0:58:36.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, let's do it.

0:58:37.480 --> 0:58:40.720
<v Speaker 2>That is all I have, Daniel. We received a lot

0:58:40.760 --> 0:58:44.680
<v Speaker 2>of great feedback after your interview with our good friend

0:58:44.680 --> 0:58:45.360
<v Speaker 2>Michael Felder.

0:58:45.920 --> 0:58:49.200
<v Speaker 1>What did you think? What are you cook in, ty w?

0:58:49.400 --> 0:58:50.800
<v Speaker 1>What is it inspiring you to do?

0:58:51.200 --> 0:58:55.000
<v Speaker 2>I went through after the fact, as we typically do here. Yeah,

0:58:55.040 --> 0:58:58.120
<v Speaker 2>And when I was putting the show together, I was

0:58:58.200 --> 0:59:01.160
<v Speaker 2>I was clicking through. I was I was scrubbing through,

0:59:01.240 --> 0:59:03.360
<v Speaker 2>trying to find like, all right, what do these guys

0:59:03.400 --> 0:59:05.520
<v Speaker 2>talk about so that I can write it in the

0:59:05.520 --> 0:59:09.280
<v Speaker 2>show description. And I was cooking around. I'm like, okay,

0:59:09.560 --> 0:59:10.800
<v Speaker 2>I didn't hear any football there.

0:59:12.120 --> 0:59:12.640
<v Speaker 1>I clicked a.

0:59:12.600 --> 0:59:15.320
<v Speaker 2>Little bit, a little bit further. Yeah, I still didn't

0:59:15.320 --> 0:59:15.560
<v Speaker 2>hear it.

0:59:15.680 --> 0:59:15.919
<v Speaker 1>Still.

0:59:16.840 --> 0:59:18.840
<v Speaker 2>Finally, about forty five minutes in, I'm like, damn, they

0:59:18.840 --> 0:59:21.080
<v Speaker 2>really didn't talk any football. This is a cook show

0:59:21.600 --> 0:59:23.920
<v Speaker 2>that we're masquerading as a football episode.

0:59:24.440 --> 0:59:29.680
<v Speaker 1>And my this is probably gonna sound goofy, but we're

0:59:29.680 --> 0:59:32.200
<v Speaker 1>all friends here. I'm ready, come on, it's safe.

0:59:32.360 --> 0:59:34.240
<v Speaker 2>I can cook the best omal you've ever had.

0:59:35.160 --> 0:59:36.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you take a lot of pride in that.

0:59:37.000 --> 0:59:40.560
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I can cook the best amal you've ever had.

0:59:41.520 --> 0:59:45.320
<v Speaker 1>That is my one claim to cooking fame. Yes, okay,

0:59:45.400 --> 0:59:50.120
<v Speaker 1>So what is it about your technique and combination of ingredients?

0:59:50.640 --> 0:59:53.880
<v Speaker 1>Are you using cram fresh? Are you what you're using

0:59:54.240 --> 0:59:56.640
<v Speaker 1>heavy cream? Are you using a dairy thing to really

0:59:56.640 --> 0:59:59.160
<v Speaker 1>get the fluffiness out of those eggs? What is it

0:59:59.200 --> 1:00:01.600
<v Speaker 1>about your Is it a French style omelet?

1:00:01.960 --> 1:00:03.400
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what a French style ONLM what is?

1:00:03.400 --> 1:00:04.760
<v Speaker 2>But I can tell you what a tip style on

1:00:04.840 --> 1:00:05.200
<v Speaker 2>what is?

1:00:05.600 --> 1:00:07.320
<v Speaker 1>Okay? I use my.

1:00:07.320 --> 1:00:09.760
<v Speaker 2>Cast iron, which you know I'm in love with, of course,

1:00:09.800 --> 1:00:12.600
<v Speaker 2>and cooking an almond on cast iron requires a fair

1:00:12.640 --> 1:00:15.760
<v Speaker 2>amount of oil or butter or something to keep it

1:00:15.800 --> 1:00:17.600
<v Speaker 2>from sticking, but a lot of finesse. You know, you

1:00:17.600 --> 1:00:23.040
<v Speaker 2>gotta gotta be careful. Eggs are delicate, so you know,

1:00:23.080 --> 1:00:24.280
<v Speaker 2>we can really put whatever you want.

1:00:24.200 --> 1:00:27.440
<v Speaker 1>In that thing. But I think the trick for me

1:00:28.640 --> 1:00:29.920
<v Speaker 1>is to cook it low and slow.

1:00:30.680 --> 1:00:32.240
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, of course, I don't want to burn the

1:00:32.280 --> 1:00:36.360
<v Speaker 2>outside of it. And especially when you're using cast iron,

1:00:36.400 --> 1:00:37.240
<v Speaker 2>it's very easy to do.

1:00:37.960 --> 1:00:40.240
<v Speaker 1>What's in your bowl of whipped eggs.

1:00:42.160 --> 1:00:50.760
<v Speaker 2>Usually I'll keep it simple with a little bit of salt.

1:00:48.520 --> 1:00:51.000
<v Speaker 1>And crack pepper. We'll just keep it basic.

1:00:51.040 --> 1:00:52.680
<v Speaker 2>We'll put sometimes a little bit of olive oil in

1:00:52.720 --> 1:00:56.320
<v Speaker 2>there as well as no dairy fat generally.

1:00:55.960 --> 1:00:59.720
<v Speaker 1>No hmm interesting, okay, then we'll throw it.

1:00:59.720 --> 1:01:03.320
<v Speaker 2>Every one in it, but gotten very good at it. Potatoes,

1:01:03.360 --> 1:01:05.360
<v Speaker 2>you want some broccoli, you want some mushrooms, you need,

1:01:05.440 --> 1:01:06.280
<v Speaker 2>whatever you want.

1:01:06.560 --> 1:01:08.280
<v Speaker 1>But you're not overcooking. That's the top.

1:01:08.480 --> 1:01:13.080
<v Speaker 2>You're not over cooking. Okay, not over cooking egg but

1:01:13.240 --> 1:01:17.000
<v Speaker 2>it's it can be creamier solid wife Kate does not

1:01:17.160 --> 1:01:21.560
<v Speaker 2>like the creamier version of the omelet, so okay, So

1:01:21.760 --> 1:01:23.800
<v Speaker 2>but I can make You.

1:01:23.680 --> 1:01:27.000
<v Speaker 1>Can't really buy an omelet ahead of time from the

1:01:27.040 --> 1:01:28.920
<v Speaker 1>market and just heat it up like you kind of

1:01:28.960 --> 1:01:30.440
<v Speaker 1>have to make an omelet or as you could pick

1:01:30.480 --> 1:01:32.200
<v Speaker 1>them one up from a diner. And I mean, eggs

1:01:32.240 --> 1:01:35.560
<v Speaker 1>don't travel at all, so you have to homemake an omelet.

1:01:35.720 --> 1:01:38.560
<v Speaker 1>What is it that Felder talked about? I know, you

1:01:38.600 --> 1:01:40.880
<v Speaker 1>went through the show, probably somewhat quickly as you were editing.

1:01:40.960 --> 1:01:42.960
<v Speaker 1>But you know, is it a hamburger bun? Is it

1:01:43.000 --> 1:01:47.320
<v Speaker 1>growing more herbs or fruit or vegetables? Is it taking

1:01:47.920 --> 1:01:51.480
<v Speaker 1>care more to do more experimenting like he talked about,

1:01:51.560 --> 1:01:54.040
<v Speaker 1>Is there you know a certain like it's too late

1:01:54.080 --> 1:01:57.280
<v Speaker 1>in the year to start growing tomato vine? Right? Yeah,

1:01:57.440 --> 1:02:00.840
<v Speaker 1>just it's August. Were you at all all inspired to

1:02:00.880 --> 1:02:03.520
<v Speaker 1>potentially next year because you're a tomato lover, tie a

1:02:03.600 --> 1:02:08.360
<v Speaker 1>globe tomato perhaps robber that's that next year? Because you

1:02:08.440 --> 1:02:11.480
<v Speaker 1>like your pasta sauce so much. You like throwing you know,

1:02:11.560 --> 1:02:13.880
<v Speaker 1>burgers and throw a fresh slice ato, you know, a

1:02:14.040 --> 1:02:16.880
<v Speaker 1>ripe beef steak tomato on there or something steak tomatoes

1:02:16.880 --> 1:02:19.960
<v Speaker 1>so beefy, yeah, so beefy. So is there is there

1:02:19.960 --> 1:02:22.160
<v Speaker 1>something you'd like to grow? Is there something that you'd

1:02:22.280 --> 1:02:26.120
<v Speaker 1>want to consider scratch baking or roasting or do you

1:02:26.200 --> 1:02:28.880
<v Speaker 1>want to be spatchcocking a chicken like Felder talked about,

1:02:28.920 --> 1:02:33.000
<v Speaker 1>remove that spine and really get good at that whole

1:02:33.120 --> 1:02:36.919
<v Speaker 1>roast or grilled chicken something like that. What I give

1:02:36.920 --> 1:02:39.919
<v Speaker 1>me something? I want to make friends with people who

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<v Speaker 1>like gardening Okay, so you want there. I want the

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<v Speaker 1>fresh herbs and vegetables. Yeah, I don't want to have

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<v Speaker 1>to deal with that.

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<v Speaker 2>That's just a little too much for me. But the

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<v Speaker 2>homegrown fruits and vegetables are always kind of a treat

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<v Speaker 2>to bring them. So you know anybody, Well, Uncle Joe Calrouso,

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<v Speaker 2>what does he grow everything?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay? Everything?

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<v Speaker 2>So I've been getting my cherry tomatoes from him. I've

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<v Speaker 2>been getting squashed and zucchini from him. Yeah, you name it,

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<v Speaker 2>he grows it. So he's been my hook up here

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<v Speaker 2>thus far throughout twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's what I'm gonna recommend, just because I just did it,

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<v Speaker 1>because I can speak to it first person. Get some

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<v Speaker 1>tomatoes from him. I don't know if it's cherry tomatoes

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<v Speaker 1>or just whatever. I'm to fridge downstairs. Now, you slice

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<v Speaker 1>him in half, cut off the top, core it just

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit. You get a sheet pan, and you

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<v Speaker 1>lay the tomatoes flat, maybe four of them. You get,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, a couple of cloves of garlic, leave

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<v Speaker 1>the skin on. You take a couple holopanos, core those,

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<v Speaker 1>cut off the top, put those face down, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you just oh and half an onion, half like a

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<v Speaker 1>sweet yellow onion, and you just put it under the

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<v Speaker 1>broiler for like, I don't know until they really kind

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<v Speaker 1>of char and blacken. And then you put it in

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<v Speaker 1>a food processor. You take the garlic out of the skins,

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<v Speaker 1>put it in a fruit food processor with a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of maybe the juice of half a lime, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of kosher salt. You pure that sucker.

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<v Speaker 1>You're throwing a little bit of a few sprigs, a

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<v Speaker 1>third of a bunch of cilantro, purate a little bit more.

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<v Speaker 1>Got salsa, You've got the best damn salsa you've ever

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<v Speaker 1>had ever. H interesting if you have a tomato hook

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<v Speaker 1>up tie take advantage, my goddy, what are you doing?

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<v Speaker 1>That is true. It is. That's factually correct, all right.

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