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Speaker 1: In Chicago Land. Dan Rubinstein, sir, how are you? I
Speaker 1: think you need to move to Chicago Land because you
Speaker 1: say it so well it just rolls off the tongue. Yeah, absolutely, well,
Speaker 1: thank you.
Speaker 2: I appreciate that I had a whole slew of doctor
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Speaker 1: How are you today? It's I'm good And it's weird
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Speaker 2: Interesting. Well, yeah, with that being said, we're already humming
Speaker 2: on the same frequency here. I am Tie, he is Dan.
Speaker 2: We are the solid verbal. We are getting ready for
Speaker 2: college football. We kind of have a general idea for
Speaker 2: what form that's going to take on, obviously subject to change.
Speaker 2: But for the duration of this show, you and I
Speaker 2: are going to go through some of the re released
Speaker 2: college football win totals that are out there. I also
Speaker 2: found in scrolling through my FanDuel lap here in PA
Speaker 2: some odds on conference champions not just winning the conference hour,
Speaker 2: but I'm talking winning the actual conference championship game. Okay,
Speaker 2: we'll get into that in just a little bit. As
Speaker 2: well as news and all the others are.
Speaker 1: Guaranteeing you're gonna make people money, right, I am making
Speaker 1: no such guarantee. You're guaranteeing the tie hill in the
Speaker 1: brant Stone Cold icy Thermometer locks of the decade are
Speaker 1: coming your way.
Speaker 2: I have a couple picks here that I'm very interested in,
Speaker 2: but uh no, I'm not making any such guarantee.
Speaker 1: How's your how's your setup for game watching this year?
Speaker 1: Because I know you've been you know you've been adjusting
Speaker 1: your patio and remodeling and doing all sorts of things
Speaker 1: at your home. Is it going to be the same
Speaker 1: game watching setup? Obviously we're not going to need as
Speaker 1: many screens with some cancelations. Have you thought about what
Speaker 1: your your visual is going to be this fall?
Speaker 2: I am since it stays summer until the winter. Nowadays,
Speaker 2: I am working on an outdoor setup. WHOA, I cante
Speaker 2: some friends over and enjoygia or mounted.
Speaker 1: What are we talking about?
Speaker 2: I think we're just talking like a two hundred and
Speaker 2: fifty dollars Roku TV, that sort of deal that I
Speaker 2: can move outside.
Speaker 1: I don't know, it depends what's on sale. Come on
Speaker 1: the show deal, try to woomb me. I'm open man.
Speaker 1: Are you Are you asking for the representatives of budget
Speaker 1: television companies to come on a college football show to
Speaker 1: sell you as if you are some sort of budget
Speaker 1: electronic shark. Believe that's exactly what I'm doing. I think
Speaker 1: that's right. Just making sure I think that's right. I'm
Speaker 1: working on that setup. Have you had a chance to
Speaker 1: go through your setup now that you've moved into a
Speaker 1: new abode. Yeah, we mounted the new TV. I got
Speaker 1: and so that's I've never had a mounted TV, so
Speaker 1: that's really nice and should be made for for But
Speaker 1: did you mount it up above eye level? Like?
Speaker 2: What is what is the situation the orientation of that
Speaker 2: TV related.
Speaker 1: It's not a it's not like the level above a fireplace,
Speaker 1: but it is above eye level. It's sort of eye
Speaker 1: level if I'm standing up, So I think the middle
Speaker 1: of the screen is probably I think that's six.
Speaker 2: I've seen a lot of very poor mounting decisions with
Speaker 2: regard TV.
Speaker 1: With regard to the TV, Okay, I'm just mere words,
Speaker 1: got you, you know, a little too high? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I hear you.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 1: So, but because we have the stand still the TV stand,
Speaker 1: we have a TV stand. One of Jody's old TV
Speaker 1: is a smaller TV that I might just move on
Speaker 1: to the stand for game watching as a second TV.
Speaker 1: But no, we're good shape.
Speaker 2: I'm working on the outdoor thing. The indoor thing I
Speaker 2: think will be mostly in state.
Speaker 1: Not going to change that around.
Speaker 2: But last time around this year, we obviously didn't have
Speaker 2: this pandemic where it was a little cagey about inviting
Speaker 2: people inside, and so I'm trying to utilize the space
Speaker 2: outdoors as best I can't smart smart do what I
Speaker 2: can to try and live out a normal college football Saturday.
Speaker 2: So we're going to talk through all of the Now,
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Speaker 1: What we've done, We've been doing stuff for twelve years now.
Speaker 1: Can you believe it? No? I know, but you're saying
Speaker 1: give it a listen, Like should we should we encourage
Speaker 1: this and go back here? I've got an idea, Tye.
Speaker 1: Maybe next week we go back and we do a
Speaker 1: director's commentary on our twenty thirteen Pac twelve preview. Because
Speaker 1: we don't have a twenty twenty Pac twelve preview coming up,
Speaker 1: so we go back to twenty thirteen and we just
Speaker 1: relive just so we can get some Pac twelve football.
Speaker 1: Do the same for the Big Ten. Relive a preview
Speaker 1: of conferences that won't be happening to at least get
Speaker 1: some Midwest and West Coast content out there. How about that?
Speaker 2: We would get tens of thousands of downloads even if
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Speaker 1: Damn, but yeah, here is the theme that I want to.
Speaker 2: Move forward with and we're going to get into news.
Speaker 2: We are now very quickly coming to a place where
Speaker 2: it still does not quite feel right to me, like
Speaker 2: this season's actually going to happen. And I don't mean
Speaker 2: that with any kind of like moral authority. I don't
Speaker 2: mean it in that sense. But I'm still very cautious
Speaker 2: about this whole thing. Like, right, we'll talk about cases
Speaker 2: and where they're spiking up around the South and around
Speaker 2: the country, but pretty soon here we got to start
Speaker 2: getting serious.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, I think what you meant to say, and
Speaker 1: maybe I'm wrong here too, but I think what you
Speaker 1: meant to say is it's very strange to try to
Speaker 1: turn off the entirety of the world around college football, right.
Speaker 1: I think that's right. It's very strange too, And we are,
Speaker 1: you know, our first priority is like, hey, if we
Speaker 1: can get some college football and with about without a
Speaker 1: bunch of kids getting sick and spreading disease, buddy, that's
Speaker 1: a win. That's a huge win. That'd be amazing. So
Speaker 1: that's what we're rooting for. But you're right, it is.
Speaker 1: It is very strange because for the what twelve years,
Speaker 1: eleven years, thirteen years, whatever, we've been doing the show
Speaker 1: or season wise, we've just said, oh my god, it's
Speaker 1: August and college football is almost here. Let's giggle like
Speaker 1: schoolgirls and figure out who has an amazing defense, who
Speaker 1: has a coordinator coming in that's going to change everything,
Speaker 1: who is set to nosedive after an amazing twenty ten
Speaker 1: or whatever. And it's just it's hard to look at
Speaker 1: the sport through those same glasses, right, I think it is.
Speaker 2: It's really hard to come at this like we're shot
Speaker 2: out of a cannon. Yeah, like we normally would, because
Speaker 2: the whole schedule's been thrown off, and look, there's still
Speaker 2: a fair amount of uncertainty. We're going to talk about
Speaker 2: that here momentarily when we get to news. Yeah, but
Speaker 2: as of now, barring any kind of unforeseen circumstances between
Speaker 2: when we're recording this on a Tuesday night and well
Speaker 2: when will record next excuse me, on a Thursday evening,
Speaker 2: I believe the plan is to move forward with an
Speaker 2: acc preview on Thursday.
Speaker 1: Correct, it is, and we are going to look at football.
Speaker 1: We're going to look at the schedules, We're going to
Speaker 1: look at rosters, we're going to look at coaching changes,
Speaker 1: we are going to look at the ACC and hope
Speaker 1: for the best, hope for the best. Should we get
Speaker 1: to news, let's do that. We have breaking news. Boom
Speaker 1: boom boo, boom boom boom. Solid wife Kate tells me
Speaker 1: that the dog looks.
Speaker 2: Very confused the breaking news whenever she hears me, yeh upstairs,
Speaker 2: good about breaking doing your job.
Speaker 3: So look, we've got an AP top twenty five, Dan,
Speaker 3: we do an AP Top twenty five. Interestingly enough, they
Speaker 3: released it and it featured many of the teams who
Speaker 3: are not going to be.
Speaker 1: Playing this year. Did they give a reason why? I
Speaker 1: did not see the reason. Why did you? I didn't
Speaker 1: see a reason why. I assume it's because there's some like, oh,
Speaker 1: we need to put twenty five team of our website
Speaker 1: destructured such that there needs to do twenty five slots,
Speaker 1: so we didn't want to put in like x x
Speaker 1: x x x as number. You know whatever. Where's a
Speaker 1: Big ten team or a Big twelve team? So yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: I like it, Well let's do it. Why not?
Speaker 2: So the Big ten had Ohio state number what two?
Speaker 2: They had Penn state number seven. The Pac twelve had
Speaker 2: Oregon at number nine. Obviously those schools are not going
Speaker 2: to be playing their seasons because of concerns over the coronavirus,
Speaker 2: which means that our RONA adjusted top ten looks something
Speaker 2: like this Clemson one, Alabama two, Georgia three, Oklahoma four.
Speaker 2: Any surprises, didn't think so? Moving on five, LSU six,
Speaker 2: Florida seven, Notre Dame eight, Auburn nine A and M
Speaker 2: and ten the Texas Longhorn stand any surprises here? And
Speaker 2: looking through this.
Speaker 1: I guess a small part of me is a little
Speaker 1: surprised about LSU at five, just because last year seemed
Speaker 1: like such a perfect storm of quarterback and coach and
Speaker 1: situation with you know, how many great receivers they had
Speaker 1: and the defensive talent. Not that LSU, ever is lacking
Speaker 1: for talent at any point on the field, but I
Speaker 1: would have thought the unknowns of LSU, with the changes
Speaker 1: both on the sideline and on the offensive roster, would
Speaker 1: have dropped them a little bit beneath five, somewhere in
Speaker 1: like the eight to nine range. But I think I
Speaker 1: guess benefit of the doubt exists.
Speaker 2: Sure, yeah, if I'm counting correctly, it's what two of
Speaker 2: the top ten teams, three of the top ten teams
Speaker 2: that are going to be breaking in new starting quarterbacks.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to count Alabama because you know, Mac
Speaker 2: Jones has played some high file games, but yeah, the
Speaker 2: LSU one jumped out at me.
Speaker 1: I think Oklahoma and.
Speaker 2: Georgia do as well, just because of that quarterback factor. Yeah,
Speaker 2: obviously both teams are loaded to the gills. They're going
Speaker 2: to be top caliber by the time we get through
Speaker 2: all this. But to start Georgia off at three with
Speaker 2: some questions around, like, is Jamie Newman going to be good?
Speaker 1: That's gifted Jamie Newman, It could be JT. Daniels, could
Speaker 1: be JT. Daniels. Yeah, no, I think Look, is Kellen
Speaker 1: Mond a top ten national quarterback in a Big ten
Speaker 1: and Pac twelve existing time? Probably not, But here he
Speaker 1: is at number nine. And the case is that A
Speaker 1: and M schedule is going to be a lot more
Speaker 1: workable than it was last season when it was just impossible.
Speaker 1: It was just impossible. So yes, with the amount A
Speaker 1: and M has returned talent wise and coaching staff wise,
Speaker 1: there's a pretty easy case to be made that with
Speaker 1: a limited number of Power five teams in the market place,
Speaker 1: that they're a top ten team It's just there's a
Speaker 1: lot of teams in here where you're like, I just
Speaker 1: don't see that at all in terms of a Top twenty,
Speaker 1: top fifteen, Like Virginia Tech at number eighteen. They were
Speaker 1: a much better team with Hendon Hooker starting at quarterback,
Speaker 1: but they had some problems. They had some problems on
Speaker 1: both sides of the ball, and for them to be
Speaker 1: considered Top twenty, I guess it takes special circumstances like
Speaker 1: we have now.
Speaker 2: There are going to be some coaches using this ap
Speaker 2: top twenty five to get another contract.
Speaker 1: That's what's gonna happen. You mean the preseason top twenty
Speaker 1: three season.
Speaker 2: But when it's all said and done, yeah, the top
Speaker 2: twenty team maybe doesn't quite have the same weight that
Speaker 2: it did when two of the Power five conferences hadn't
Speaker 2: canceled their seasons.
Speaker 1: Just saying I think that's right, you know, and not
Speaker 1: a lot of asteriskies on social media posts, it seems.
Speaker 2: No. Well, here's an interesting tidbit now to the point
Speaker 2: of top twenty fives and how will the season be effected?
Speaker 2: Did shortly before we came on the air, Jason Cursey,
Speaker 2: who covers Oklahoma football for The Athletic tweeted out quote
Speaker 2: Lincoln Riley won't say which position group it is, but
Speaker 2: says he had one group essentially wiped out all but
Speaker 2: one by a COVID test. He said it's a position
Speaker 2: group that quote needs multiple guys on the field together. Now,
Speaker 2: this is interesting. I'm not trying to imply that Oklahoma
Speaker 2: is going to be hampered come the latter part of September.
Speaker 1: They'll be able to because health and yeah, they'll be fine.
Speaker 2: But this kind of speaks to the challenge of playing
Speaker 2: college football in the time of coronavirus. What happens if
Speaker 2: something like this goes down during a season? What happens
Speaker 2: for a whole wide receiving core, a whole line gets
Speaker 2: wiped out. Those guys suddenly can't play for at least
Speaker 2: two weeks. I know some of these schedules have been
Speaker 2: engineered in such a way that, yes, we've got time
Speaker 2: to move games, we can shift and flex as we
Speaker 2: see fit. But just to give folks a preview of
Speaker 2: I think what we can expect, you know, I'd like
Speaker 2: to know what the position group is. Maybe that would
Speaker 2: help us with some betting lines in the latter part
Speaker 2: of suppurberless.
Speaker 1: I know, but I'm tatless. I'd like to know that
Speaker 1: all the players are okay and healthy. That would be
Speaker 1: But yes, I think, yeah, I think this is going
Speaker 1: to be very real and it's going to and this
Speaker 1: is you know what the Larry Scott and Kevin Warren
Speaker 1: had to defend sometimes not great in the way that
Speaker 1: they canceled their conferences seasons where it's tough. Decisions are
Speaker 1: going to be made and they're going to be needed
Speaker 1: down the line in terms of thresholds, in terms of
Speaker 1: how sick and quarantine and how far spread and tracing.
Speaker 1: And I think it might speak a little to who's
Speaker 1: actually making the decisions, who has all of the data.
Speaker 1: How often are they receiving data. Is it a coach decision,
Speaker 1: is it an ad decision? Is it a president decision?
Speaker 1: Is it a conference decision? I assume schools and conferences
Speaker 1: are having these conversations and position groups, and I would
Speaker 1: assume you also have to have conversations within coaching staffs
Speaker 1: about who feels comfortable and can find spaces and stuff
Speaker 1: like that, because there are coaches who fall into age
Speaker 1: groups that are more susceptible than players. So I think
Speaker 1: it's going to be fascinating to learn how schools handle
Speaker 1: things like this over the course of the season. Because Okay,
Speaker 1: so eight players are now quarantine. That's a number I
Speaker 1: just made up. Eight players are now quarantine for state,
Speaker 1: you whatever. And they feel good enough about their depth
Speaker 1: and the number of bodies they have that are not
Speaker 1: quarantining out of caution to play a game. They want
Speaker 1: to play a game. The rest of the team is fine.
Speaker 1: Is that optically something that a program is willing to
Speaker 1: go forward with? I don't know.
Speaker 2: No. Well, again, more of a previous Texas Tech reporting
Speaker 2: twenty one active COVID nineteen cases within the football program,
Speaker 2: but they're going to continue to practice without those individuals
Speaker 2: who have been placed in self isolation to prevent further
Speaker 2: spread of the virus.
Speaker 1: We also saw.
Speaker 2: News in the last few days about NC State pausing
Speaker 2: their athletic activities, including football, after some clusters were found
Speaker 2: within their various athletic programs. Overall, twenty seven cases of
Speaker 2: COVID nineteen within the athletic department. Not all of the
Speaker 2: cases involve student athletes. Presumably that means some staff members
Speaker 2: or whatnot. But I would just say, get used to
Speaker 2: this right. This is going to be our new reality
Speaker 2: for the time being if we're going to mount any
Speaker 2: kind of season, whether it's in the fall or frankly,
Speaker 2: the spring, I think this is going to be a
Speaker 2: recurring theme that we're just going to have to try
Speaker 2: and get as comfortable with as we can.
Speaker 1: The other thing that I.
Speaker 2: Wanted to point out here is, and this is my
Speaker 2: question that I foreshadowed a bit in our intro, the
Speaker 2: College Football Playoff Committee is going gung ho to release
Speaker 2: their first weekly rankings on November seventeenth now, despite the
Speaker 2: fact that it does feel a little incomplete, regardless of
Speaker 2: what Dabosweeney has to say, he's a little in complete
Speaker 2: to me.
Speaker 1: Excuse me, doctor dabos Doctor David excuse me. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: is a little incomplete.
Speaker 2: But these are the teams that are playing, so I
Speaker 2: understand that they want to do the rankings in the
Speaker 2: playoffs to the best of their ability. I'm real curious
Speaker 2: right about now what the Big Ten and Pact twelve
Speaker 2: are thinking, because I take them at their word that
Speaker 2: they called off the season out of an abundance of
Speaker 2: caution based on health data that they got from experts.
Speaker 2: I know there's a lot of disagreement out there at
Speaker 2: the unknowns.
Speaker 1: I think that was ross mentioned that it's not just
Speaker 1: the data, but it's that we don't have complete data.
Speaker 1: They did it for the right reasons.
Speaker 2: I have no doubt about that, Okay, I'm just one
Speaker 2: wondering how they are envisioning their spring season. Did they
Speaker 2: think that if they pulled the plug that others would
Speaker 2: be soon to follow? My assumption is yes, because otherwise
Speaker 2: I wonder if they wouldn't have hung on the way
Speaker 2: some of the other conferences have. This makes it all
Speaker 2: but impossible to have any kind of national champion in
Speaker 2: the spring season. You're going to have two conferences, a
Speaker 2: couple others maybe playing their games an exhibition slate of sorts.
Speaker 2: In the springtime. It works a little better. Frankly, it
Speaker 2: definitely is more symmetrical if you've got all of the
Speaker 2: conferences playing at the same time. But when you mix
Speaker 2: in match like this, when you stagger some in the
Speaker 2: fall some in the spring, it just gets really messy.
Speaker 2: And this whole playoff thing, like, they're not going to
Speaker 2: do two playoffs, right, So how do the Big ten
Speaker 2: and Pac twelve spin it? Do they just play against
Speaker 2: each other in bowl games or I don't know, it
Speaker 2: just seems like it's quite a mess.
Speaker 1: Well, I would imagine there are I think the overwhelming
Speaker 1: amount is the concern that they have for playing with
Speaker 1: so many unknowns and the health stuff, and perhaps you know,
Speaker 1: talking about liability and how to maneuver that whole section
Speaker 1: of the sport. But I also think one it's buying time,
Speaker 1: and it's also I would assume this is me assuming,
Speaker 1: I would assume the Big ten in the PAC twelve
Speaker 1: knew that at least the SEC and Big twelve, maybe
Speaker 1: not the ACC, but the SEC and Big twelve, we're
Speaker 1: going to try everything they could to move forward. And
Speaker 1: they could then in turn gather data from those experiments
Speaker 1: and taking off a couple games here and there, and
Speaker 1: flex scheduling, and what to do when there are positive tests,
Speaker 1: what to do when there are clusters, what to do
Speaker 1: with tracing that they can actually draft off of the
Speaker 1: data of other conferences so they can point to the
Speaker 1: fact that they're doing as much due diligence as possible.
Speaker 1: And I guess using a couple of other power conferences
Speaker 1: at least a couple as guinea pigs through this whole,
Speaker 1: very strange college football experiment. That's an assumption I have
Speaker 1: that that's a conversation behind closed doors, that we can
Speaker 1: take the lessons. And certainly all conferences have looked to
Speaker 1: the NBA and have looked to other sports, whatever it's
Speaker 1: Korean baseball or soccer overseas to see how athletic departments
Speaker 1: or programs or franchises whatever have dealt with illness and
Speaker 1: adjusting on the fly. Major League Baseball has run into
Speaker 1: some issues. So that's something I see happening that those
Speaker 1: two conferences are saying, one, we're doing this because it's
Speaker 1: better to be too cautious than too adventurous with public health.
Speaker 1: And two we can learn from others trying to do
Speaker 1: what we'd like to do. I think that's sort of
Speaker 1: the thinking as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I you know, like I said, I think everyone's
Speaker 2: heart is in the right place. It's just a very
Speaker 2: often time and now seeing some of these news stories
Speaker 2: that we've got other conferences, we've got the playoff committee
Speaker 2: trying to push forward. It obviously amps up the pressure
Speaker 2: a little bit on guys like Kevin Warren and out
Speaker 2: in the Pac twelve as well. Like it's it's it's
Speaker 2: weird for everybody involved.
Speaker 1: I'm sure. So it wouldn't have been the worst idea
Speaker 1: for the college football playoff to say, man, it's a
Speaker 1: strange year. We're gonna hold off on saying, oh, you
Speaker 1: wouldn't you you would love that you hate the playoff.
Speaker 1: I don't hate the playoff. I like watching high level games,
Speaker 1: but the focus on the playoff as a central part
Speaker 1: of the sport is not for me. That's all, all right.
Speaker 2: So some other news tidbits here before we get into
Speaker 2: our little betting segment.
Speaker 1: I guess gambling whatever you.
Speaker 2: Call it, Tennessee is restricting ticket sales to about twenty
Speaker 2: five percent of Kneeland Stadium. There is a stadium that
Speaker 2: you may know. Dan holds one hundred and twenty four
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty five fans.
Speaker 1: We talk about that all the time. YEP.
Speaker 2: Means about twenty five thousand fans are going to be
Speaker 2: in the stadium.
Speaker 1: I've got a quote here from Philip.
Speaker 2: Fulmer, their athletic director, quote. These circumstances are beyond our control.
Speaker 2: We understand the importance of playing our part and keeping
Speaker 2: our community healthy for those who will be with us
Speaker 2: in the stadium.
Speaker 1: The season.
Speaker 2: Please know we are committed to creating the safest possible
Speaker 2: environment in and around Niland Stadium. So Neiland Stadium might
Speaker 2: believe the fifth biggest stadium, and with Beaver Stadium and
Speaker 2: Michigan Stadium and Ohio Stadium not playing, it's suddenly catapulted
Speaker 2: higher up on that list. We will see how they do.
Speaker 2: We will see how they do here as this gets closer.
Speaker 1: It's very strange that there are I mean, I've seen
Speaker 1: some of the early games have said I think it
Speaker 1: was BYU Navy. I saw that there are going to
Speaker 1: be no fans in the stands. It's very strange that
Speaker 1: there are different And I understand that public health is
Speaker 1: different everywhere in terms of spread and cases and clusters,
Speaker 1: but it would be really nice if we had some
Speaker 1: sort of consensus about the same sport and what they're
Speaker 1: doing about crowds or no crowds or what percentage of crowds.
Speaker 1: It is very strange to see because there's consensus in
Speaker 1: Major League Baseball, there's consensus about what's going on in
Speaker 1: the NFL. I just saw the Rams announce that Sofi
Speaker 1: Stadium there are going to be no fans. It's the
Speaker 1: new stadium in LA. It's just odd. It's just odd
Speaker 1: that whoever is making the decisions at Tennessee. And this
Speaker 1: is not to single out Tennessee because we've seen it
Speaker 1: at other places like Texas and a couple places in
Speaker 1: the SEC where it's like, well, we're gonna go with
Speaker 1: fifty percent. Okay, No, now we're going with twenty five percent. Oh,
Speaker 1: maybe we'll be up backed up to fifty percent. We'll
Speaker 1: see what happens where it would just be nice somebody
Speaker 1: made a decision and just went with it.
Speaker 2: What do you say we close out with two happier stories, Dan.
Speaker 1: I'm ready let's eliminate bummers for now.
Speaker 2: Cincinnati has re upped with Luke Fickle game of contract
Speaker 2: extension through twenty twenty six. We'd time to be given
Speaker 2: out contract extent. It's not going to lie, but Luke
Speaker 2: Fickle has earned it. It will increase his salary to
Speaker 2: three point four million dollars annually.
Speaker 1: That's a good chunk of change. And Cincinnati is one
Speaker 1: of those schools. I mean, they were in the Big East.
Speaker 1: This is a major program. They just don't happen to
Speaker 1: play in a Power five conference. So I guess good
Speaker 1: for Cincinnati for stepping up after Luke Fickle decided he
Speaker 1: didn't want to take the Michigan State job. I imagine
Speaker 1: this extension has been in the works for a good
Speaker 1: long time, but announcing it at the height of when
Speaker 1: things have been really bad would have been in poor
Speaker 1: taste to say, we're giving our football coach a good raise.
Speaker 1: But he's definitely earned it, and Cincinnati football should be
Speaker 1: very good as long as Luke Fickle is there.
Speaker 2: And finally, North Dakota State Dan you may recall, will
Speaker 2: not be playing their season this fall, as is the case,
Speaker 2: as is the case also with schools in the Southland
Speaker 2: Conference like Central Arkansas, but due to some flexibility that
Speaker 2: the conferences have granted member schools, they can play kind
Speaker 2: of like a limited exhibition slate of sorts. This is
Speaker 2: sort of the Sinco to tayo, but kind is yeah,
Speaker 2: it kind of is so YadA, YadA YadA. North Dakota
Speaker 2: State the Bison schedule to play a game on October
Speaker 2: third against Central Arkansas of the Southland Conference. That game
Speaker 2: is going to be in Fargo, and it's interesting because
Speaker 2: North Dakota State's quarterback Trey Lance is a projected first
Speaker 2: round selection. Some prospects in this game Dylan Radunce, he's
Speaker 2: a left tackle for North Dakota State, Cordell Volson, right
Speaker 2: tackle for North Dakota State, as well as Robert Rochelle,
Speaker 2: who is a cornerback for Central Arkansas. Gives these kids
Speaker 2: an opportunity maybe to showcase what they can do in
Speaker 2: a game where presumably they're going to have a pretty
Speaker 2: nice stage.
Speaker 1: It won't count for anything.
Speaker 2: It sounds like they're going to play their actual season
Speaker 2: in the springtime. But curious to see what kinds of
Speaker 2: other opportunities such as this bubble up now that North
Speaker 2: Dakota State has announced.
Speaker 1: Central Arkansas went nine and four last year. They went
Speaker 1: on and four.
Speaker 2: They've got a couple national championships to their name. It's
Speaker 2: kind of a credible program. Sure, So I.
Speaker 1: Suppose if you're I don't think Trey Lance will be
Speaker 1: eligible for the NFL draft though right he was? Was
Speaker 1: he a true freshman or red shirt freshman last year?
Speaker 1: You might have to look that up.
Speaker 2: All I saw is that he is projected as the
Speaker 2: fourteenth player off the board.
Speaker 1: Oh, okay, so he will be eligible for the draft. Okay,
Speaker 1: So I believe that's I believe that's correct. Yes, Okay,
Speaker 1: So now we have tape against Lance against the Central
Speaker 1: Arkansas Bears. Congratulations NFL Scouts. Good for NDSU, Good for
Speaker 1: Central Arkansas to get a game of football in. I
Speaker 1: will watch it because I've only watched clips of Trey
Speaker 1: Lance and came away very impressed, and to bring it
Speaker 1: back to me because I love doing that tie. I
Speaker 1: was severely bummed out that we were not going to
Speaker 1: be able to see Oregon Ohio State as a college
Speaker 1: football fan, as an Oregon fan, you know, in in
Speaker 1: Audston Stadium. It would just it would have been incredible.
Speaker 1: I'm not bummed out we lost Oregon State when I
Speaker 1: saw that that was canceled, that the Pac twelve was
Speaker 1: moving away from non conference games, and so that meant
Speaker 1: no Ohio State. The Buckeye lost. Huge bummer NDSU like
Speaker 1: it's for the best. It is just for the best
Speaker 1: that Oregon either can't beat a team they're way more
Speaker 1: talented than, or can't lose to a team that's seriously,
Speaker 1: very very good and an FBS team masquerading as an
Speaker 1: FCS one.
Speaker 2: That is the news for now of the real and
Speaker 2: the weird. Please do email Solidverbal at gmail dot com
Speaker 2: if you have thoughts or anything else that you'd like
Speaker 2: for us to share on the next show, which again
Speaker 2: will come on what Friday morning to do our ACC
Speaker 2: preview Dan. Okay, correct, Now, before we get into some
Speaker 2: of these revised over under tootals and the odds to
Speaker 2: win conference championship games, I need you to pull up
Speaker 2: the schedule for the SEC.
Speaker 1: All right, SEC schedule is up.
Speaker 2: Here is what we're looking at with regard to our
Speaker 2: top let's say six teams. Georgia's over under is eight
Speaker 2: and a half. Keep in mind, this is a ten
Speaker 2: game season in the SEC. Alabama is at eight, Florida
Speaker 2: at seven and a half, LSU at seven, Texas A
Speaker 2: and M at seven, and Auburn at six and a half.
Speaker 2: So that's your cut off point. That is my cut
Speaker 2: off point for now. We could go deeper if we
Speaker 2: want to talk about Tennessee at five or ole Miss
Speaker 2: at four, but for now, let's start with those six
Speaker 2: teams since we have talked an awful lot about them.
Speaker 2: How do you feel about that Alabama number being only
Speaker 2: at eight?
Speaker 1: So what are the presumed two losses to break even?
Speaker 1: Georgia LSU, Georgia A and M TOP ten A and
Speaker 1: M Georgia Tennessee on the road. So let's like, let's
Speaker 1: call it Georgia LSU because Alabama does not play Florida
Speaker 1: correct correct, regular season correct, I'd probably take the over.
Speaker 1: It seems like I'm taking the over.
Speaker 2: You are not alone in that assumption from what I
Speaker 2: can tell here just based on the on the numbers.
Speaker 2: Yet it looks like most people are going pretty heavy on.
Speaker 1: That over as well.
Speaker 2: But you know, I'm assuming it's because they've got a
Speaker 2: Georgia game. It's at home, but they've got that game
Speaker 2: against Georgia. They're on the road at LSU. But I
Speaker 2: don't see them losing more than like two games, So
Speaker 2: I'd be inclined to go over, even though you're not
Speaker 2: getting great odds on it. The one that I guess
Speaker 2: surprises me a little bit is LSU, and it's for
Speaker 2: many the same reasons that we discussed when we were
Speaker 2: going through that ap Top twenty five or the RONA
Speaker 2: revised Top twenty five. Excuse me, Yeah, this is a
Speaker 2: very difficult schedule.
Speaker 1: They're in the SEC West.
Speaker 2: We've already talked about the merits of the schedule. Here,
Speaker 2: there's also a.
Speaker 1: Team that loses a lot.
Speaker 2: Loses their generational quarterback. You got a really good team
Speaker 2: coming back, mind you. But seven wins is interesting territory,
Speaker 2: and I think that could be right on the number
Speaker 2: if you ask me. They're at Florida, which would be
Speaker 2: a tough place to play. They're at Jordan Hare on Halloween.
Speaker 2: They obviously have the Alabama game, which has played November
Speaker 2: fourteenth this year in this updated season and latter in
Speaker 2: the year on the road at a and m back
Speaker 2: at home first week of September against ole Miss.
Speaker 1: Who knows what state ole Miss will be in by then,
Speaker 1: But just a lot of variables on that schedule that
Speaker 1: leave me a little uncomfortable. I would turn a skeptical
Speaker 1: eye towards teams that are replacing both an offensive coordinator
Speaker 1: and a quarterback. That that's I mean, So that's quasi lsu.
Speaker 1: I mean, Miles Brennan's been in the system for a
Speaker 1: while and Steve Bensminger is still there, but they're bringing
Speaker 1: in new obviously a passing game coordinator to take over
Speaker 1: for Joe Brady. So that's a concern. Alabama's in a
Speaker 1: good place. They returned Mac Jones and obviously the freshman
Speaker 1: Bryce Young, So I think Alabama is a good place
Speaker 1: to like the over ole miss new coach, but returning
Speaker 1: quarterback is nice, Tennessee nice a and m nice Georgia.
Speaker 1: I'm worried Florida. I like Auburn, I think I like,
Speaker 1: but I don't love Bonnicks. So that's where I would
Speaker 1: actually try to go with the under George eight and
Speaker 1: a half. I would probably go under. I think it's
Speaker 1: probably an eight win Georgia team. I have not fully
Speaker 1: we haven't done our SEC preview yet, so I can't
Speaker 1: fully speak to it, but purely based on Georgia's schedule,
Speaker 1: getting Alabama on the road, obviously Florida neutral site game
Speaker 1: and everything else looks pretty good, but they still do.
Speaker 1: They have Auburn week two with new coordinator, new quarterback,
Speaker 1: They've got the buye before Florida. They've got State and
Speaker 1: Mike Leach Air Raid Sandwich between two winnable games, but
Speaker 1: still probably strange. So eight seems about right to me
Speaker 1: that there's at least an okay shot that they lose too.
Speaker 2: The one that I really like here, and I'm not
Speaker 2: saying this to be snarky or anything like that. But
Speaker 2: the pick here that I think I would feel most
Speaker 2: confident in on the SEC side Auburn under six and
Speaker 2: a half.
Speaker 1: Walk me through it.
Speaker 2: Auburn's on the road at Georgia. They've got a home
Speaker 2: game against LSU, a road game against Alabama. I think
Speaker 2: there's probably three losses right there.
Speaker 1: It's a tough end stretch.
Speaker 2: I think that's probably three losses. And then on top
Speaker 2: of that, so that's already three losses in my unofficial
Speaker 2: math here. That means that in order to hit that over,
Speaker 2: they'd have to win out. There are some interesting games here.
Speaker 2: There's a road tilt against Ole Miss a week before
Speaker 2: they come back home against LSUS, so perhaps some look
Speaker 2: ahead potential there. Okay, there's a road tilt against Mississippi uble.
Speaker 1: Road too, Right, They've got Carolina and Ole Miss.
Speaker 2: Carolina and all Miss back to back. When they come
Speaker 2: back off a bye week first week of November, they
Speaker 2: go to Mississippi State. They've got a game against Tennessee
Speaker 2: in there before a game against Alabama, and then after
Speaker 2: they get beaten up by Alabama. Sorry Auburn fans hates,
Speaker 2: wow what they after they get beaten up by Alabama.
Speaker 1: Sorry, how many times exactly has bo Nicks lost to Alabama?
Speaker 1: If you can do that math on the fly.
Speaker 2: Then they come back home to square off against Texas
Speaker 2: A and M.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's it's definitely a tough November early December.
Speaker 1: So I'm not as confident in that because I'm just
Speaker 1: consistently as a fan of a team who's played against
Speaker 1: an Auburn defense and good offenses, who played against recent
Speaker 1: Auburn defenses, I'm always impressed by Auburn. I think you
Speaker 1: might be. I know you're talking about this in the
Speaker 1: context of probability, but I don't think I'm as down
Speaker 1: in Auburn as you are. Though the losses on offense
Speaker 1: are concerning, and you know, working in Chad Morris, is
Speaker 1: you know how much autonomy is he going to have?
Speaker 1: That's always the question on the sideline at Auburn, So
Speaker 1: I understand it. But with Gus as the steadying force
Speaker 1: on offense, I don't think it's as big a deal.
Speaker 1: So I yeah, I'm not as down on the Tigers there.
Speaker 2: Interestingly enough, your favorite, though to win the SEC Championship
Speaker 2: is Alabama.
Speaker 1: Yes, even though they're not the favorite for win total Yeah.
Speaker 2: Even though they're not the favorite for win total. Alabama
Speaker 2: is favored Georgia, Florida, LSU, Texas, A and M. That's
Speaker 2: your top five, And interestingly enough, Tennessee is above Auburn.
Speaker 2: Tennessee is at twenty five to one Auburn at thirty
Speaker 2: to one to win the SEC Championship.
Speaker 1: Yeah. When Alabama actually has to play in the game,
Speaker 1: the SEC Championship game, they tend to fare pretty well.
Speaker 1: So I like it's move on to the Big twelve.
Speaker 2: Okay, So no surprise here as we look at the
Speaker 2: Big twelve, this is another conference playing what ten games?
Speaker 1: Ten games? Oklahoma plus one. Oklahoma sits at eight and
Speaker 1: a half for their over under. Is that number? Okay?
Speaker 1: Does that number one game? Does it hinge on? What's there?
Speaker 1: What's their game number two that's going to give them
Speaker 1: a scare and maybe they win close and win nine
Speaker 1: or they lose that second game because they've been known
Speaker 1: to lose one of those, like they did last year
Speaker 1: to Kansas State. So if you look at their schedule,
Speaker 1: what is the Okay, so the most likely loss is
Speaker 1: Texas on the neutral field, we can agree.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's obviously the Texas game Dan. But the week before, yeah,
Speaker 2: first week of October on the road at Jack Trice
Speaker 2: against Iowa State could be interesting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you know, I love me some parties,
Speaker 1: So I think that Let's see, they're in Fort Worth,
Speaker 1: they're in Lubbock, but that's not a look ahead. TCU
Speaker 1: is not a look ahead. Before Lubbock, they've got Bedlam,
Speaker 1: but bedlam's at home. Uh, you know, the Baylor game.
Speaker 1: I suppose to close out the year if they're feeling
Speaker 1: like it doesn't mean anything. Man, I'm down on Baylor.
Speaker 1: You know that. I know you are, so okay, So
Speaker 1: I think that's right. Yeah, going to Ames Is it's
Speaker 1: good for a scare at the very least. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that's where the second Los Angeles.
Speaker 2: I you know, I sort of get it on the
Speaker 2: Oklahoma side, only sorta. I know they've got the new
Speaker 2: quarterback and gosh, now we've got news about the coronavirus,
Speaker 2: so who knows which direction those things go.
Speaker 1: But you already disrespected Spencer Ratler, so you must love
Speaker 1: the under here. I kind of like the old you
Speaker 1: disrespected Spencer Rattler. I like the over. The one I
Speaker 1: don't get is Texas. What if I gave you a
Speaker 1: nine and a half over under, ooh, I probably wouldn't
Speaker 1: touch that, but I feel like that's a better line.
Speaker 1: Do you think nine and a half is better? Yeah?
Speaker 1: So they were a whisker away from losing to Baylor
Speaker 1: last year because then the question is the question is
Speaker 1: do they win all ten or do they lose? Well,
Speaker 1: they were a whsk away from Baylor twice.
Speaker 2: But yeah, oh all right, Like I said, the one
Speaker 2: that really gives me pause is Texas. Okay, why Texas
Speaker 2: on this list that I'm looking at is that's seven
Speaker 2: and a half wins, and we know the Oklahoma game.
Speaker 2: We can count that just for our purposes as one.
Speaker 2: But in order to hit the under, you need to
Speaker 2: find two more, two more on this. Most of their
Speaker 2: big games are at home. Right We've got an Oklahoma
Speaker 2: State game on the road Boon Pickin Stadium. That'll be
Speaker 2: a tough place to play. But I mean, they got
Speaker 2: to go to Kansas, they got to go to k State.
Speaker 2: Texas Tech, Like, I'm not that worried about those games.
Speaker 2: Even if they lose the week before the Red River
Speaker 2: shootout when they're at home against TCU, Yeah, it's you
Speaker 2: still need to get one other game in there if
Speaker 2: you want to hit that under. So my inclination at
Speaker 2: this point is to go over seven and a half
Speaker 2: on that Texas slide.
Speaker 1: Can I hit you with a novel theory, a very
Speaker 1: new theory? Please? Could Texas suffer from the first ever
Speaker 1: let down look ahead sandwich in week one being let
Speaker 1: down by twenty twenty and looking ahead to TCU in
Speaker 1: Oklahoma after Texas Tech in Lubbock? I mean, what do
Speaker 1: we know about Alan Bowman? Is he healthy? I would
Speaker 1: take week one Texas Tech ahead of many other weeks
Speaker 1: of Texas Tech in recent history and the old twenty
Speaker 1: twenty letdown early October look Ahead Texas goes down to
Speaker 1: Texas Tech Week one Matt Wellsier two. They lost a
Speaker 1: lot of weird games twenty nineteen of those games coming
Speaker 1: out fired up. Let me read through some of these
Speaker 1: other ones quick.
Speaker 2: We've got Oklahoma State at seven, Iowa State at six
Speaker 2: and a half, Baylor at six and a half. I
Speaker 2: go under on Baylor a big time going ye yeah.
Speaker 1: I could see a five and five year where by
Speaker 1: the end of the season, if there is you know,
Speaker 1: everything goes as planned that they've they've come together a
Speaker 1: little bit more. I just I'm worried about Charlie Brewers
Speaker 1: health and I know they've recruited quarterback pretty well behind him.
Speaker 1: But it's everything new. It's you know, even though Charlie
Speaker 1: Brewer's back, his health isn't guaranteed for a full season,
Speaker 1: and new coaching staff, new offense, new terminology, new receivers
Speaker 1: to get used to or full time receivers. Yeah, I'd
Speaker 1: be a little bit worried about Baylor at six and
Speaker 1: a half.
Speaker 2: My my lock is TCU at six, I go over,
Speaker 2: I go over over six. Yeah, they're going to have
Speaker 2: a good defense.
Speaker 1: So who is who's getting them to seven? You like
Speaker 1: Oklahoma State's defense, which is pretty good. It was fine
Speaker 1: last season. Even if you talked about, yeah.
Speaker 2: A loss against Iowa State, at Texas and against Oklahoma,
Speaker 2: you still need to get one other loss to get
Speaker 2: to six. So the only way you can lose this
Speaker 2: bet is if they lose five games, right, And they're
Speaker 2: not gonna lose five.
Speaker 1: Games Oklahoma, Texas, Iowa State, Baylor's on the road. I
Speaker 1: know you don't love Baylor, and that's coming off of
Speaker 1: a bye for the Pokes. Kansas looking forward to the
Speaker 1: buy on the road.
Speaker 2: It would have to lose five games for you to
Speaker 2: lose that bet, so I'd be inclined to go over.
Speaker 2: You're getting like even money based on the line I'm seeing,
Speaker 2: and I think worst case scenario is a push give
Speaker 2: me that over.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, we're just looking at Big twelve schedules here,
Speaker 1: or at least I am just looking at Big twelve
Speaker 1: schedules here. Yeah, I might go under. Wow, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm not crazy about Oklahoma State. We talked about that already,
Speaker 1: just because I think their scheduled, so they have I
Speaker 1: think how many teams have four in a row because
Speaker 1: there are two byes built into the Big twelve schedule.
Speaker 1: So West Virginia has five in a row in the
Speaker 1: middle of the season, Texas Tech has a four in
Speaker 1: a row, Oklahoma State has a four and oh four
Speaker 1: in a row. TCU has a four in a row,
Speaker 1: Kansas has a four and ERH four in a row,
Speaker 1: and Baylor has a five in a row. Weird how
Speaker 1: both Texas and Oklahoma, Kansas State who beat Oklahoma last year,
Speaker 1: who seems to have some momentum, and Iowa State with
Speaker 1: their quarterback. They only have threes in a row. Huh yeah, yeah, interesting,
Speaker 1: So I actually am feeling now more confident in the
Speaker 1: teams that don't have the four in a row, even
Speaker 1: though that's extremely normal for a football season to play
Speaker 1: four consecutive weeks. With all the uncertainty surrounding this fall,
Speaker 1: that is, it does seem like an advantage to have
Speaker 1: those two bys spaced as they are for those few teams.
Speaker 2: With regard to who's going to win the conference championship game. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Oklahoma and Texas are both at plus one twenty five,
Speaker 2: so that means you bet one hundred bucks, get one
Speaker 2: twenty five back.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it doesn't surprise me there at equal odds.
Speaker 2: I think the smart money would be that both those
Speaker 2: teams end up in that conference championship game.
Speaker 1: If you were a betting man, though, you might look to.
Speaker 2: See if you can get better value elsewhere. You want
Speaker 2: to throw a few shekels on TCU at thirty to one.
Speaker 1: See that's not being realistic though, thirty to one, that's
Speaker 1: that's throwing away your money. Good defense, Dan, It's okay,
Speaker 1: it's a fine defense.
Speaker 2: How about okay, seven and a half to one Iowa State,
Speaker 2: so they're going to lose two games for sure.
Speaker 1: To me, just because they're Iowa State. I know you
Speaker 1: can take advantage of a weird year, but it just
Speaker 1: feels like they're going to lose two games if they
Speaker 1: can worm into the championship game. They have what Oklahoma
Speaker 1: at home and they have Texas on the road in Austin.
Speaker 1: So let's say they split those two games and they
Speaker 1: lose I don't know, to Oklahoma State or TCU to
Speaker 1: open up the season, and that gets them to eight
Speaker 1: and two. That's probably the best case scenario. That means
Speaker 1: that Brock Party is having a hell of a year.
Speaker 1: That means that the developing guys on offense and defense
Speaker 1: around I think pretty sound schemes. So I'm more inclined
Speaker 1: to roll with a good quarterback in Brock Purty than
Speaker 1: I am with a pretty still large unknown in Max Duggan.
Speaker 1: So I think that's a little bit better, all right,
Speaker 1: final And we've seen Iowa State perform later on in
Speaker 1: the year. In the last couple of years, we've seen
Speaker 1: them come on stronger at the end of the year.
Speaker 1: So I like it, and I think I'm a little
Speaker 1: bit down because what do we call it, Like the stinker.
Speaker 1: Sam Ellingers always good for a sink, a stinker, a
Speaker 1: Sammy stinker, and I like Sam Ellinger a lot. That's
Speaker 1: the concerning thing where there's an expectation about Texas whereas
Speaker 1: Iowa states in the gravy position.
Speaker 2: The final Power five knee Power three NAE conference here
Speaker 2: is the ACC, the newly expanded ACC, now with fifteen teams.
Speaker 2: It should come as no great surprise that Clemson's over
Speaker 2: under his ten and a half Clampson. I think I
Speaker 2: would run to the bank laughing and go with over
Speaker 2: ten and a half. Over ten and a half feels
Speaker 2: like a very very strong play at this early junture.
Speaker 2: But who's beating Clemson Notre Dame in South Bend? Again,
Speaker 2: I asked, who's beating Clemson?
Speaker 1: You're still you're that that's that's something that's a gast
Speaker 1: to you that No, I'm counting that for Notre Dame. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean the road situation Wake Forest with a new
Speaker 1: full time starting quarterback Georgia Tech in year two, which
Speaker 1: I think is going to be improved. Notre Dame, which
Speaker 1: has that nice combination of quarterback and defense. For as
Speaker 1: much guff as I give Ian book he's pretty good.
Speaker 1: He's not a bad quarterback, and I like that combination.
Speaker 1: Florida State should be better by the end of November.
Speaker 1: Virginia Tech to close out the year is tough. I
Speaker 1: think you're I can't really make a strong case. But
Speaker 1: all it takes is one loss. All it takes is one.
Speaker 2: All it takes is one. By the way Pitt Panthers
Speaker 2: as a potential let down look ahead end of November
Speaker 2: is interesting to me, But no, I just I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't see it happening. So ten and a half
Speaker 2: to me, I feel like I would go over on
Speaker 2: that one. The more interesting one the ACC is I
Speaker 2: think when you get down to the next peg. So again,
Speaker 2: Notre Dame is now kind of like a full conference
Speaker 2: member at least for one season or one season only.
Speaker 2: And based on what I see here, they are kind
Speaker 2: of like the favorite to be number two in conference.
Speaker 2: They're over under is eight and a half. Now, another
Speaker 2: important thing that we should mention here, I believe ACC
Speaker 2: teams are trying to play eleven games.
Speaker 1: Is that correct? One, two, three, four, five, six, heaven,
Speaker 1: eight nine, ten, Yes.
Speaker 2: So we got another game to work with here. If
Speaker 2: we're thinking of this in terms of Notre Dame. In
Speaker 2: terms of eight and a half. I'm not worried about
Speaker 2: that game that they picked up against. I think USF, right,
Speaker 2: I think they'll be okay against USF, but probably lost
Speaker 2: to Clemson, maybe lost somewhere along the way to a
Speaker 2: team like a little bit or a North Carolina. But
Speaker 2: eight and a half feels like a pretty strong play
Speaker 2: to me. I like the Notre Dame over, Yeah, I do.
Speaker 1: I just go over now that I talk myself into.
Speaker 1: I know they're, you know, moving forward with either tom
Speaker 1: or Tommy Reese. I can never keep it straight. But
Speaker 1: he's back to Tommy now. He is back to Tommy.
Speaker 1: So he is an in program, higher, he's a promotion.
Speaker 1: He's not presumably going to be changing too many things.
Speaker 1: I'm sure he's going to be adjusting somewhat, but there's
Speaker 1: a familiarity there with him as a coach, as an
Speaker 1: offensive coach, and I think what he called the plays
Speaker 1: in the bowl game, so that that seems like a
Speaker 1: positive sign. I like Clark Lee a lot on defense.
Speaker 1: I like how they recruited on defense. So yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: confident that Notre Dame is specifically built situationally to have
Speaker 1: a pretty nice year. So I'm gonna go over there.
Speaker 2: By the way, that USF game isn't officially official, but
Speaker 2: they're it.
Speaker 1: That's okay, they're working on it. So I like the
Speaker 1: over there.
Speaker 2: I think we're in agreement. Look through some of the
Speaker 2: other teams on here. We've got North Carolina and Virginia
Speaker 2: Tech at seven and a half, Louisville, Florida State both
Speaker 2: at seven, pitt In wake Forest at six, and then
Speaker 2: you go down a bit Virginia five and a half,
Speaker 2: Duke five, Syracuse five, NC State four, BC four, Georgia
Speaker 2: Tech two and a half, Den.
Speaker 1: Two and a half. Yeah, it's gonna be a strange year.
Speaker 1: I wonder man, there's a lot of interesting young quarterbacks
Speaker 1: just between McHale, Kale, Sam, Sam Howell, Hendon Hooker. I
Speaker 1: like the idea of one of those teams making a
Speaker 1: really nice leap. Louisville has what they have Notre Dame
Speaker 1: on the road, but they finish pretty nicely, right. Louisville
Speaker 1: finishes with Syracuse, Boston College on the road, and Wake
Speaker 1: So I think I feel good about the Louisville over
Speaker 1: maybe Virginia Tech under, but I think they still have
Speaker 1: a nice year, or maybe it's too close to call.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's a stay away from me, Ty, Should we
Speaker 1: talk about Pitt? I would love to talk about Pitt.
Speaker 1: What do you want to talk about with Pitt? I'd
Speaker 1: like to talk without having thoroughly studied their roster. Their
Speaker 1: road slate is the first part of the season pretty great, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, the fact is they have and it's very
Speaker 1: confusing because the acc print out of the schedule home
Speaker 1: games are in white and the big twelve the home
Speaker 1: games are in gray. For some odd reason the ones
Speaker 1: I printed out. But Pitt, it's not a terrible thing.
Speaker 1: Like they could start five and oh Austin p the governors, governors, Syracuse, Louisville,
Speaker 1: n C State on the road at Boston College. Those
Speaker 1: are their first five games. I don't think so they're
Speaker 1: not on the road. They're not on the road until
Speaker 1: week five.
Speaker 2: Until week five, I don't think they're beating Louisville. But
Speaker 2: point taken games at home.
Speaker 1: Louisville has Miami the week before.
Speaker 2: It's possible. Yeah, five and zero is it's there. It's
Speaker 2: on the table.
Speaker 1: Now. It's a tough you know. After that, it's like
Speaker 1: Georgia Tech, and then where's the other comfortably winnable game.
Speaker 1: But in a strange year, there's something chewing at the
Speaker 1: back of my brain that says, Pitt is up to
Speaker 1: the task. Pitt is up to being that team in
Speaker 1: a strange year. I don't know. I I'm just I'm
Speaker 1: getting those tingles tie all right, Well, I don't know
Speaker 1: how I feel about that. I can't draw it out
Speaker 1: of it.
Speaker 2: Florida the Florida State one. To me, I truly have
Speaker 2: no idea. I need to do some studying on Florida
Speaker 2: State as we get into our ACC preview. But sure
Speaker 2: I see Rode games against Miami, against Notre Dame, against
Speaker 2: Louisville Louisville. There's also a game in there against Clemson.
Speaker 2: There's your pit Panthers in there. Obviously, there's North Carolina
Speaker 2: the week after Notre Dame before they go on the
Speaker 2: road to the Louisville Cardinals. So there's just a lot
Speaker 2: of uncertainty here. And I like Mike Norvelle. I think
Speaker 2: if given time, he can turn Florida State around and
Speaker 2: revitalize the offense and whatnot. But Florida State has had
Speaker 2: some bumps here. Yeah, over the long offseason thus far,
Speaker 2: not to mention changing schemes and coaching staff and yeah,
Speaker 2: just seems like a lot to look at it.
Speaker 1: It's not a good year to have an unproven like
Speaker 1: a quarterback who has never proven himself to be anything
Speaker 1: above okay, and new coaches all around, uncertainty surrounding the program,
Speaker 1: sometimes having players butt heads with media and the coaches
Speaker 1: and each other, and it just maybe football is that
Speaker 1: thing that everybody can focus on in Tallahassee and it's
Speaker 1: just we're all in it together. It's a weird year.
Speaker 1: It's a weird situation. To win eight games means losing
Speaker 1: basically to Clemson and Notre Dame and hoping for the
Speaker 1: best against Miami on the road and North Carolina at home.
Speaker 1: I think so. Yeah, and seven, I think seven is
Speaker 1: the right number. I don't think i'd win it's Littleva
Speaker 1: on the road.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think i'd want to bet it, But
Speaker 2: it makes sense to me looking at it that seven
Speaker 2: will be the number.
Speaker 1: There any others that jump out to you in the
Speaker 1: ACC I think I'd probably go under for Florida State.
Speaker 1: I don't think so. Virginia is interesting to me, just
Speaker 1: because they had such a good year last year, but
Speaker 1: they lose so much and so much of that offense
Speaker 1: was Bryce Perkins. Though I know people are a little
Speaker 1: bit optimistic about the quarterbacks that are behind him five
Speaker 1: and a half. That tells me Vegas does not think
Speaker 1: all that much of the Who's So I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: stay away way NC State has, I mean, just on campus.
Speaker 1: NC State's a disaster right now and I have no
Speaker 1: idea what the future holds for them, So I'd probably
Speaker 1: take advantage of that in a very sick way and
Speaker 1: go under Frencis State.
Speaker 2: At this point, no, the ACC Championship odds are skewed
Speaker 2: heavily in favor of the Clemson Tigers. Clemson right now
Speaker 2: at minus three hundred and fifty, which means you'd have
Speaker 2: to bet thirty five bucks to win ten yep.
Speaker 1: Generally not a good bet. Not a good bet.
Speaker 2: I happen to be pretty confident that Clemson is going
Speaker 2: to win, but even still, there's really no there's no
Speaker 2: value there After Clemson. After Clemson, you get to Notre
Speaker 2: Dame at five to one, Miami North Carolina both at
Speaker 2: sixteen to one, and then Florida State at twenty to one.
Speaker 1: The rest of.
Speaker 2: Them, frankly, are real long shots. Pitt Virginia Tech both
Speaker 2: forty to one, Louisville one, NC State one hundred to one,
Speaker 2: Boston College, Duke, and Georgia Tech all two hundred and
Speaker 2: fifty to one. So, if you are to look at
Speaker 2: these odds and come away with anything, Vegas is saying
Speaker 2: that it's most likely going to be Clemson. But if
Speaker 2: it's not, it's either Notre Dame, Miami, North Carolina, or
Speaker 2: Florida State.
Speaker 1: And you don't feel good about the Irish, I mean I.
Speaker 2: Feel good about them generally speaking, I don't feel good
Speaker 2: about them beating Clemson.
Speaker 1: I feel better about that. Good time to get them.
Speaker 1: It'd be a great time to get them. And maybe
Speaker 1: maybe the.
Speaker 2: Play here is to throw some of that caution to
Speaker 2: the wind and instead say, as you've said all along,
Speaker 2: it's a weird season. Yeah, who knows it's gonna happen
Speaker 2: in November, guys sitting out teams being in a bit
Speaker 2: of disarray, even if we make it that far, who knows, right,
Speaker 2: So it stands to reason that any of these teams really.
Speaker 1: Pick out a long pitch pick out Pitt.
Speaker 2: Pick out Virginia Tech. Get some of these long shots.
Speaker 1: Throw a few, throw a fish. Shekels on it. It's
Speaker 1: a weird year. You have too much money. What if
Speaker 1: all of Clemson, Miami and North Carolina gets sick? I
Speaker 1: don't know. I've that again. I'm not going to bet
Speaker 1: on that time. I'm just telling you right now. It's
Speaker 1: August twenty fifth. Yeah, give me the Irish. Just stop it.
Speaker 1: I knew you. Just wake up those echoes, ty, I
Speaker 1: walked right into it. Just give me those Irish.
Speaker 2: I'm not betting on people to get sick, and I'm
Speaker 2: just saying it's a possibility.
Speaker 1: We're going to do this thing.
Speaker 2: If we're going to do this thing, it is a possibility.
Speaker 2: And as we said months ago, there are going to
Speaker 2: be weird gambling ramifications that probably don't feel good, but yes,
Speaker 2: are part of the real world in twenty twenty.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it feels like a Notre Dame season of me.
Speaker 1: Turn that music off.
Speaker 2: All well, we appreciate everyone stopping on buy. As we
Speaker 2: said throughout the course of this episode, Friday is going
Speaker 2: to be your acc preview, Yes, and then at some
Speaker 2: point the following week will eventually make our way over
Speaker 2: to the SEC as well, and then see what other
Speaker 2: kind of conferences we can drizzle in. You know, they're
Speaker 2: they're not the only conferences playing football. There are others
Speaker 2: out there who are trying to do so as well.
Speaker 2: So we'll we'll do our best to present as clear
Speaker 2: and open minded a preview across college football is humanly possible.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, let's do it.
Speaker 2: That is all I have, Daniel. We received a lot
Speaker 2: of great feedback after your interview with our good friend
Speaker 2: Michael Felder.
Speaker 1: What did you think? What are you cook in, ty w?
Speaker 1: What is it inspiring you to do?
Speaker 2: I went through after the fact, as we typically do here. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And when I was putting the show together, I was
Speaker 2: I was clicking through. I was I was scrubbing through,
Speaker 2: trying to find like, all right, what do these guys
Speaker 2: talk about so that I can write it in the
Speaker 2: show description. And I was cooking around. I'm like, okay,
Speaker 2: I didn't hear any football there.
Speaker 1: I clicked a.
Speaker 2: Little bit, a little bit further. Yeah, I still didn't
Speaker 2: hear it.
Speaker 1: Still.
Speaker 2: Finally, about forty five minutes in, I'm like, damn, they
Speaker 2: really didn't talk any football. This is a cook show
Speaker 2: that we're masquerading as a football episode.
Speaker 1: And my this is probably gonna sound goofy, but we're
Speaker 1: all friends here. I'm ready, come on, it's safe.
Speaker 2: I can cook the best omal you've ever had.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you take a lot of pride in that.
Speaker 2: Okay, I can cook the best amal you've ever had.
Speaker 1: That is my one claim to cooking fame. Yes, okay,
Speaker 1: So what is it about your technique and combination of ingredients?
Speaker 1: Are you using cram fresh? Are you what you're using
Speaker 1: heavy cream? Are you using a dairy thing to really
Speaker 1: get the fluffiness out of those eggs? What is it
Speaker 1: about your Is it a French style omelet?
Speaker 2: I don't know what a French style ONLM what is?
Speaker 2: But I can tell you what a tip style on
Speaker 2: what is?
Speaker 1: Okay? I use my.
Speaker 2: Cast iron, which you know I'm in love with, of course,
Speaker 2: and cooking an almond on cast iron requires a fair
Speaker 2: amount of oil or butter or something to keep it
Speaker 2: from sticking, but a lot of finesse. You know, you
Speaker 2: gotta gotta be careful. Eggs are delicate, so you know,
Speaker 2: we can really put whatever you want.
Speaker 1: In that thing. But I think the trick for me
Speaker 1: is to cook it low and slow.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, of course, I don't want to burn the
Speaker 2: outside of it. And especially when you're using cast iron,
Speaker 2: it's very easy to do.
Speaker 1: What's in your bowl of whipped eggs.
Speaker 2: Usually I'll keep it simple with a little bit of salt.
Speaker 1: And crack pepper. We'll just keep it basic.
Speaker 2: We'll put sometimes a little bit of olive oil in
Speaker 2: there as well as no dairy fat generally.
Speaker 1: No hmm interesting, okay, then we'll throw it.
Speaker 2: Every one in it, but gotten very good at it. Potatoes,
Speaker 2: you want some broccoli, you want some mushrooms, you need,
Speaker 2: whatever you want.
Speaker 1: But you're not overcooking. That's the top.
Speaker 2: You're not over cooking. Okay, not over cooking egg but
Speaker 2: it's it can be creamier solid wife Kate does not
Speaker 2: like the creamier version of the omelet, so okay, So
Speaker 2: but I can make You.
Speaker 1: Can't really buy an omelet ahead of time from the
Speaker 1: market and just heat it up like you kind of
Speaker 1: have to make an omelet or as you could pick
Speaker 1: them one up from a diner. And I mean, eggs
Speaker 1: don't travel at all, so you have to homemake an omelet.
Speaker 1: What is it that Felder talked about? I know, you
Speaker 1: went through the show, probably somewhat quickly as you were editing.
Speaker 1: But you know, is it a hamburger bun? Is it
Speaker 1: growing more herbs or fruit or vegetables? Is it taking
Speaker 1: care more to do more experimenting like he talked about,
Speaker 1: Is there you know a certain like it's too late
Speaker 1: in the year to start growing tomato vine? Right? Yeah,
Speaker 1: just it's August. Were you at all all inspired to
Speaker 1: potentially next year because you're a tomato lover, tie a
Speaker 1: globe tomato perhaps robber that's that next year? Because you
Speaker 1: like your pasta sauce so much. You like throwing you know,
Speaker 1: burgers and throw a fresh slice ato, you know, a
Speaker 1: ripe beef steak tomato on there or something steak tomatoes
Speaker 1: so beefy, yeah, so beefy. So is there is there
Speaker 1: something you'd like to grow? Is there something that you'd
Speaker 1: want to consider scratch baking or roasting or do you
Speaker 1: want to be spatchcocking a chicken like Felder talked about,
Speaker 1: remove that spine and really get good at that whole
Speaker 1: roast or grilled chicken something like that. What I give
Speaker 1: me something? I want to make friends with people who
Speaker 1: like gardening Okay, so you want there. I want the
Speaker 1: fresh herbs and vegetables. Yeah, I don't want to have
Speaker 1: to deal with that.
Speaker 2: That's just a little too much for me. But the
Speaker 2: homegrown fruits and vegetables are always kind of a treat
Speaker 2: to bring them. So you know anybody, Well, Uncle Joe Calrouso,
Speaker 2: what does he grow everything?
Speaker 1: Okay? Everything?
Speaker 2: So I've been getting my cherry tomatoes from him. I've
Speaker 2: been getting squashed and zucchini from him. Yeah, you name it,
Speaker 2: he grows it. So he's been my hook up here
Speaker 2: thus far throughout twenty twenty.
Speaker 1: Here's what I'm gonna recommend, just because I just did it,
Speaker 1: because I can speak to it first person. Get some
Speaker 1: tomatoes from him. I don't know if it's cherry tomatoes
Speaker 1: or just whatever. I'm to fridge downstairs. Now, you slice
Speaker 1: him in half, cut off the top, core it just
Speaker 1: a little bit. You get a sheet pan, and you
Speaker 1: lay the tomatoes flat, maybe four of them. You get,
Speaker 1: I don't know, a couple of cloves of garlic, leave
Speaker 1: the skin on. You take a couple holopanos, core those,
Speaker 1: cut off the top, put those face down, and then
Speaker 1: you just oh and half an onion, half like a
Speaker 1: sweet yellow onion, and you just put it under the
Speaker 1: broiler for like, I don't know until they really kind
Speaker 1: of char and blacken. And then you put it in
Speaker 1: a food processor. You take the garlic out of the skins,
Speaker 1: put it in a fruit food processor with a little
Speaker 1: bit of maybe the juice of half a lime, maybe
Speaker 1: a little bit of kosher salt. You pure that sucker.
Speaker 1: You're throwing a little bit of a few sprigs, a
Speaker 1: third of a bunch of cilantro, purate a little bit more.
Speaker 1: Got salsa, You've got the best damn salsa you've ever
Speaker 1: had ever. H interesting if you have a tomato hook
Speaker 1: up tie take advantage, my goddy, what are you doing?
Speaker 1: Life is short, all right, Dan, fun show? You're not committing.
Speaker 1: I'm not committing, no Ah, stupid fun show. Appreciate everyone
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