WEBVTT - NEW OWNERSHIP! Training Camp Insight, Barbenheimer | Command Center Podcast | Washington Commanders 0:00:01.080 --> 0:00:03.760 Today and the Command Center Podcast. We got big time news, 0:00:03.920 --> 0:00:08.719 Josh Harris, Magic Johnson, new ownership. We're talking that training camp. 0:00:08.880 --> 0:00:12.399 London Fletcher talks Big Nichols, Santana talks about Dimmy Brown 0:00:12.840 --> 0:00:23.520 and has Fletch seen Barbie find out? Welcome to the 0:00:23.520 --> 0:00:26.759 Command Center Podcast. I'm Logan Paulson here as always with 0:00:26.800 --> 0:00:28.480 Santana Moss and we have a special guest today. 0:00:28.480 --> 0:00:29.880 Santana a man. 0:00:29.680 --> 0:00:32.360 Who needs no introduction, but we have to introduce him 0:00:32.400 --> 0:00:35.600 because it is a vocal medium, and that's London Fletcher, 0:00:35.640 --> 0:00:36.040 the captain. 0:00:36.080 --> 0:00:36.199 Man. 0:00:36.200 --> 0:00:37.000 Thanks for joining us. 0:00:37.000 --> 0:00:39.080 Oh, I appreciate y'all having me. Man, I get to 0:00:39.120 --> 0:00:41.080 come on y'all pot. 0:00:40.720 --> 0:00:44.320 Yeah, helmet for London. 0:00:44.440 --> 0:00:45.840 Yeah, because he's here, Man, I've been. 0:00:46.320 --> 0:00:48.240 I was on the circuit kind of taking my son 0:00:48.320 --> 0:00:49.080 around to a bunch. 0:00:48.960 --> 0:00:50.920 Of different bunch of camps about camps. 0:00:51.080 --> 0:00:55.000 Football camps. He's going to his freshman year. Yeah. Yeah, 0:00:55.080 --> 0:00:59.080 he plays a receiver, slight receiver. Man. He wanted to 0:00:59.080 --> 0:01:02.000 play running back when he first started playing tackle. I 0:01:02.040 --> 0:01:05.240 say no, no, no, you're not playing to see guys 0:01:05.280 --> 0:01:08.200 like you, well, no, because they don't value the running back. 0:01:09.800 --> 0:01:12.440 And this was this was three years ago that I 0:01:12.440 --> 0:01:16.280 tell him, now, that's smart play receiver, get the ball, 0:01:16.920 --> 0:01:20.160 you know space and they I already knew where there 0:01:20.200 --> 0:01:22.360 was trending towards non value and running backs. 0:01:22.440 --> 0:01:24.520 That's kind of that's kind of you know, you know, 0:01:24.680 --> 0:01:27.280 thinking about the kind of guy you are, you know 0:01:27.440 --> 0:01:30.280 far as how you played the game, you know mentally physically. 0:01:31.319 --> 0:01:34.039 Other parents won't think about the game and that aspect, 0:01:34.160 --> 0:01:37.440 like think down eat line, okay, how how what position 0:01:37.480 --> 0:01:38.240 you want to play? 0:01:38.680 --> 0:01:40.520 What would you be value? How would they take care 0:01:40.560 --> 0:01:40.760 of you? 0:01:40.840 --> 0:01:42.920 And I thought it was just off the you know, 0:01:43.240 --> 0:01:44.760 part of taking care of your body. 0:01:44.800 --> 0:01:45.959 You would you would say that to. 0:01:45.959 --> 0:01:48.360 Him, just knowing that he's a little guy, probably ain't 0:01:48.360 --> 0:01:50.400 gonna get no bigger than what he is, probably wouldn't 0:01:50.400 --> 0:01:52.640 probably know my more than what five nine, five ten 0:01:52.720 --> 0:01:55.080 you think. And just I'm just I'm just saying from 0:01:55.080 --> 0:01:57.280 how I look at him now, you know, so I 0:01:57.320 --> 0:01:59.360 would thought that would have been your mindset. But you 0:01:59.800 --> 0:02:02.559 may then, interesting point, man, the value at a running 0:02:02.600 --> 0:02:03.840 back position in the NFL. 0:02:04.360 --> 0:02:05.320 Yeah, and you know. 0:02:05.640 --> 0:02:08.880 This is obviously hoping you know, he keeps going gets 0:02:08.880 --> 0:02:11.880 that to that level. But even I mean, just you 0:02:11.960 --> 0:02:15.440 get worn down in high school, you get worn down 0:02:15.480 --> 0:02:16.360 in cold by. 0:02:16.280 --> 0:02:17.520 The time you get to the league. 0:02:18.200 --> 0:02:21.880 And now they're just. 0:02:21.800 --> 0:02:24.440 Not taking they don't value these guys like that. 0:02:24.480 --> 0:02:27.120 There was that running back from Tennessee, Jalen Hurts. Does 0:02:27.160 --> 0:02:29.280 that sound right? And he switched from running back to 0:02:29.320 --> 0:02:31.720 receiver and was drafted as a receiver in the NFL. 0:02:31.760 --> 0:02:33.280 And that was the reason he cided, is like that, 0:02:33.440 --> 0:02:34.720 I just am not going to get paid if I 0:02:34.760 --> 0:02:36.320 want to. I want to have a long career in 0:02:36.360 --> 0:02:38.200 the NFL. He got hurt and isn't the league anymore. 0:02:38.200 --> 0:02:41.000 But you know, so anyway, we got some big news 0:02:41.000 --> 0:02:43.720 around the team, guys, big big news. It's been a 0:02:43.760 --> 0:02:47.120 while since you've done the podcast. Big news. Josh Harris 0:02:47.520 --> 0:02:50.040 has bought the Commanders Magic Johnson. Obviously, I want to 0:02:50.080 --> 0:02:52.200 get your guys thoughts on that. I know Tanny were 0:02:52.240 --> 0:02:53.960 at the event. I know Fletch you got to meet 0:02:53.960 --> 0:02:57.720 them last week at training camp practice the hated g Man. 0:02:57.760 --> 0:02:59.560 I mean, I mean we kind of knew it was brewing. 0:02:59.680 --> 0:03:01.280 You know, we just was waiting for that moment till 0:03:01.280 --> 0:03:03.640 they can say it's final and everybody approved. You know, 0:03:03.760 --> 0:03:06.520 these guys bid, but you know, once it was all 0:03:06.560 --> 0:03:08.839 said and done. If you was at the event, whether 0:03:08.919 --> 0:03:11.360 he was a fan of a guy like us, energy 0:03:11.440 --> 0:03:14.040 was second or none. I haven't seen it like that 0:03:14.120 --> 0:03:16.520 in a while here, and we kind of, you know, 0:03:16.680 --> 0:03:19.200 reflect a little bit as players about when was the 0:03:19.280 --> 0:03:22.280 last time we felt the fans appreciation like that? And 0:03:22.280 --> 0:03:24.320 it was you know, I went all the way back 0:03:24.320 --> 0:03:27.280 into my first year here in five and then twenty 0:03:27.320 --> 0:03:29.640 twelve year with RG three and that season we had. 0:03:29.720 --> 0:03:32.120 So I just love the energy, man. I think it's 0:03:32.160 --> 0:03:36.400 going to be great for everybody. The Harris's Harris Group 0:03:36.600 --> 0:03:39.240 has so many aspects and different things they trying to, 0:03:39.280 --> 0:03:41.360 you know, get after them, make sure that they can 0:03:41.400 --> 0:03:43.640 bring that experience back to this ball club. 0:03:43.640 --> 0:03:44.520 And I think it's great. Man. 0:03:44.640 --> 0:03:44.839 Yeah. 0:03:45.000 --> 0:03:48.960 I wasn't here at the event for the rally and everything, 0:03:49.200 --> 0:03:50.960 but I did listen to press cans. I was on 0:03:50.960 --> 0:03:53.560 a vacation with my family on the dr and I'm 0:03:53.600 --> 0:03:57.280 listening to the press conference and I just loved everything 0:03:57.320 --> 0:03:59.520 I was hearing from from the new ownership group and 0:03:59.520 --> 0:04:02.200 the way they were talking and really wondering what they 0:04:02.240 --> 0:04:05.000 want to, you know, bring to this organization and what 0:04:05.040 --> 0:04:07.960 they what they hoped to accomplish here. You know, Magic 0:04:08.040 --> 0:04:10.360 talked about he said, man, I don't invest in teams 0:04:10.760 --> 0:04:13.600 just for ego. I invested with So when you hear that, 0:04:13.760 --> 0:04:16.560 you know, you know he's a proven winner. And with 0:04:16.680 --> 0:04:19.799 Harris and their group having the exerience you know, owning 0:04:19.839 --> 0:04:23.600 the Sixers, owning the New Jersey Devils, there's experience behind this. 0:04:23.720 --> 0:04:26.800 Get these guys and then you have you know, Mitchell 0:04:26.839 --> 0:04:30.640 Rails and Mark Iron. These guys are local, They're passionate 0:04:30.640 --> 0:04:32.800 that they've been fans of the team. Josh has has 0:04:32.839 --> 0:04:34.919 mentioned how he grew up rooting for the team. So 0:04:34.920 --> 0:04:39.320 I'm happy, you know, just for the fans and also 0:04:39.480 --> 0:04:43.679 for the players here to have that renewed support, renewed 0:04:43.800 --> 0:04:47.239 energy that you behind the team. We're already trending towards 0:04:47.240 --> 0:04:50.160 the sellout the first game of the season against the Cardinals. 0:04:50.160 --> 0:04:53.320 And this is not like we're playing the Cowboys the Giants, 0:04:53.320 --> 0:04:55.120 so the Eagles, this is going to be a sellout 0:04:55.440 --> 0:05:01.000 and the stadium will be are fans and that's you know, 0:05:01.680 --> 0:05:03.960 obviously a testament to excitement around here. 0:05:04.080 --> 0:05:05.680 I think that's so important for guys like John and 0:05:05.760 --> 0:05:08.000 Terry who've kind of been through some some bad times. 0:05:08.000 --> 0:05:10.080 You mentioned that they were fans of the team, you know, 0:05:10.120 --> 0:05:11.320 when they were younger there from the area. 0:05:11.400 --> 0:05:14.040 Is that is that important or like, I don't know 0:05:14.040 --> 0:05:14.680 how you feel about it. 0:05:14.680 --> 0:05:16.599 I don't think it has anything to do with what 0:05:16.600 --> 0:05:18.320 you're going to do as an owner. Yeah, but it's 0:05:18.320 --> 0:05:18.760 great to. 0:05:18.760 --> 0:05:21.760 Have that, to know that these guys locally grew up 0:05:22.040 --> 0:05:25.080 and they saw the different phases of this organization. 0:05:25.160 --> 0:05:27.400 They saw the championship years they were young kids. 0:05:27.480 --> 0:05:29.880 Then they got a chance to experience that, so they 0:05:29.960 --> 0:05:32.039 know what it's like to be a fan. And then 0:05:32.320 --> 0:05:34.039 you know, one of the things that they mentioned is 0:05:34.120 --> 0:05:36.719 just sitting back looking doing looking at you know, watching 0:05:36.760 --> 0:05:39.400 the numbers, you know, just being real saying hey, back 0:05:39.400 --> 0:05:43.320 in eight this team was top two in sales, and 0:05:43.839 --> 0:05:46.680 fast forward to sixteen seventeen. 0:05:46.600 --> 0:05:47.480 We was bottom. 0:05:47.600 --> 0:05:50.240 You know, we was last basically, so they know what 0:05:50.320 --> 0:05:53.520 it takes to do what's the most important, and that's brain. 0:05:54.080 --> 0:05:57.000 You know, the fans back to this ball club because 0:05:57.040 --> 0:05:57.760 it's going to work. 0:05:57.920 --> 0:06:00.719 You know, it's going to basically have a I guess 0:06:00.760 --> 0:06:02.719 you could say a trickle effect that's going to trickle 0:06:02.760 --> 0:06:05.120 down to the guys play and everything else, like one 0:06:05.160 --> 0:06:07.760 of the things I've always mentioned about when I play here, 0:06:07.880 --> 0:06:10.040 I paid no attention to the outside of what I 0:06:10.080 --> 0:06:12.640 did on the field, but I didn't know how much 0:06:12.760 --> 0:06:14.680 that meant so much to our game as well. 0:06:14.760 --> 0:06:15.760 You know, I didn't know that. 0:06:16.040 --> 0:06:19.200 You know, if it's not stable enough up top, then 0:06:19.240 --> 0:06:21.520 it has an effect down at the bottom. And you 0:06:21.560 --> 0:06:23.040 won't say that as a player, because you got to 0:06:23.040 --> 0:06:25.440 go out there and win games. That's the most important thing. 0:06:25.680 --> 0:06:27.880 But when it comes to the fan base and being supportive, 0:06:28.120 --> 0:06:28.880 that's where it hurts. 0:06:28.880 --> 0:06:31.600 I can't think Also when you look at the Harris 0:06:31.600 --> 0:06:36.840 Group and when you had experience with the passionate fan 0:06:36.920 --> 0:06:40.680 base already of like the Philadelphia Sixers. We all know 0:06:40.760 --> 0:06:44.680 Philadelphia fans and how passionate they are about their sports team. 0:06:44.760 --> 0:06:48.320 When you know, and when they took over the seventy 0:06:48.360 --> 0:06:50.800 six ers, you know, it was not doing very well 0:06:51.480 --> 0:06:53.760 from on the court end off the court in terms 0:06:53.839 --> 0:06:56.440 of the fans coming to the games and stuff like that, 0:06:56.600 --> 0:06:59.279 and they've been able to you know, they're selling our 0:06:59.400 --> 0:07:02.000 games there constantly, you know, considered one of the best 0:07:02.000 --> 0:07:04.240 teams in the Eastern Conference, and they know what it's 0:07:04.279 --> 0:07:06.760 like to deal with a passionate fan base and get 0:07:06.760 --> 0:07:10.280 them back and gaze. And when you mentioned does it 0:07:10.320 --> 0:07:13.760 does it matter that they were fans that once once before. 0:07:14.320 --> 0:07:17.680 They know what it's like to be passionate fans. They've 0:07:17.720 --> 0:07:20.880 seen how our passion, how passionate our fans can be, 0:07:20.960 --> 0:07:23.520 and you know, just bringing them back in the fold. 0:07:23.560 --> 0:07:26.160 And obviously you're gonna have to win. That's how you 0:07:26.240 --> 0:07:28.480 maintain it. And you know they're gonna do some different 0:07:28.480 --> 0:07:32.000 things from an organizational standpoint, So it's it's great. 0:07:32.160 --> 0:07:34.800 We were talking to Mark and you mentioned the experience 0:07:34.840 --> 0:07:36.160 you got at a seventy six ers game. 0:07:36.280 --> 0:07:38.520 Just the food alone. You know what was that like, 0:07:38.600 --> 0:07:38.840 you know. 0:07:38.880 --> 0:07:41.920 Like far As, was it just your meal or was 0:07:41.960 --> 0:07:43.760 it how they brought it out and anything? 0:07:43.800 --> 0:07:47.600 Were just just when you when you walked into that door. 0:07:48.080 --> 0:07:50.080 You know, I went to the UH to a sixer 0:07:50.160 --> 0:07:54.480 game and in Philadelphia and when you came through that door, man, 0:07:54.600 --> 0:07:58.040 just the experience of like, man, it was like a machine. 0:07:58.080 --> 0:08:00.160 How they were you know, getting you in and out 0:08:00.200 --> 0:08:03.800 of the you know, different stations or whatever, the options, 0:08:03.800 --> 0:08:06.600 the selections had, all those different things. Like I was 0:08:06.600 --> 0:08:09.920 thoroughly impressed with the operation in a way you know, 0:08:09.960 --> 0:08:13.120 everything was a handle in that uh in that arena. 0:08:13.200 --> 0:08:15.120 Yeah, And obviously, like there's I got a lot of 0:08:15.160 --> 0:08:18.040 questions about football ops and what ownership means for football ops. 0:08:18.080 --> 0:08:19.520 And I don't think we really know because it's not 0:08:19.600 --> 0:08:21.600 exactly like a case study to show you, but I 0:08:21.640 --> 0:08:24.480 think it all kind of trends towards a better product 0:08:24.480 --> 0:08:26.760 on the field, a better fan experience, a better presence 0:08:26.760 --> 0:08:27.320 in the community. 0:08:27.360 --> 0:08:29.480 Well, you think about this from a football ops standpoint, 0:08:29.920 --> 0:08:32.760 this this last offseason where I'm sure they would have 0:08:32.840 --> 0:08:36.160 loved to, you know, resigned Doron and gave him a 0:08:36.200 --> 0:08:40.280 big deal. But I'm sure with the influx of ownership change, 0:08:40.679 --> 0:08:44.160 you couldn't really could you really engage Montez and try 0:08:44.200 --> 0:08:46.080 and Girl and Cam Curl. 0:08:45.800 --> 0:08:46.880 And some of the other guys. 0:08:46.880 --> 0:08:49.599 Maybe you want to extend, you know, Antonio Gibson with 0:08:49.679 --> 0:08:52.200 things like that, So you're kind of ham strong in 0:08:52.280 --> 0:08:54.520 terms of what you want to do, or maybe there 0:08:54.520 --> 0:08:57.720 were some other pieces that you wanted to add on 0:08:57.760 --> 0:09:00.640 so on. From some other teams, there's like we don't 0:09:00.679 --> 0:09:03.400 have we don't we can't operate because of the budget 0:09:03.600 --> 0:09:05.600 and what it required to bring in this player. So 0:09:06.040 --> 0:09:09.880 you know, it's almost like you didn't last year you 0:09:09.920 --> 0:09:13.200 were operating with very resource on right. 0:09:13.280 --> 0:09:15.599 Yeah, absolutely, that's really challenging. So obviously, I think I 0:09:15.600 --> 0:09:17.559 think we're all excited about it. Right, we don't really 0:09:17.559 --> 0:09:18.920 know exactly what's going on, but I think we know 0:09:18.960 --> 0:09:20.240 that it's an experience group. 0:09:20.280 --> 0:09:22.200 I'm passionate about it. I think that's exciting. 0:09:22.280 --> 0:09:24.560 Let's talk about something that we're passionate about, and that's 0:09:24.600 --> 0:09:25.840 training camp and that's football. 0:09:26.080 --> 0:09:26.280 Right. 0:09:26.520 --> 0:09:29.000 We've been out watching practice almost every single day, which 0:09:29.040 --> 0:09:31.679 is great. I just want to get high level thoughts, 0:09:31.720 --> 0:09:33.920 like what do you see? What are you excited about. 0:09:34.040 --> 0:09:35.480 Something that's caught my eye a little bit is the 0:09:35.520 --> 0:09:38.760 pass catcher specifically. I know Tanne you like that as well. Yeah, 0:09:38.880 --> 0:09:40.439 just let's to get our comments on. 0:09:40.360 --> 0:09:42.120 That Brown Brown. 0:09:42.960 --> 0:09:44.839 I mean, I gotta give him this and I don't 0:09:44.840 --> 0:09:46.160 want to say flowers, but give. 0:09:46.080 --> 0:09:47.080 Him his due, you know what I mean. 0:09:47.160 --> 0:09:49.880 We've been talking about this kid for the last few years, 0:09:49.920 --> 0:09:52.120 and we was wondering when it was gonna click. I 0:09:52.160 --> 0:09:54.440 think right now, you know, it looks like I know 0:09:54.480 --> 0:09:57.000 it's earlier, but it's it's clicking it. Trust me, I'm 0:09:57.000 --> 0:10:00.560 a receiver. I remember how and I went through an experience. 0:10:00.600 --> 0:10:02.839 I got hurt initially my first year, So my second 0:10:02.880 --> 0:10:05.120 year was like my first year, but my third year 0:10:05.200 --> 0:10:08.640 was no nothing like either year. And it seems to 0:10:08.640 --> 0:10:11.040 be the same for him. It's like things are slowed down. 0:10:11.360 --> 0:10:13.839 He's making catches, he's even trying the one hand catches 0:10:13.880 --> 0:10:15.760 when he don't have to. But that just shows you 0:10:15.800 --> 0:10:17.960 where his mind is at right now. He's that confident, 0:10:18.120 --> 0:10:20.760 he's getting open, he's getting such you know, separation. We 0:10:20.800 --> 0:10:23.319 talk about the other three receivers and we have the four. 0:10:23.400 --> 0:10:26.160 We have a fourth that can be someone's first somewhere 0:10:26.160 --> 0:10:29.360 else or number one or number two guys. So I'm 0:10:29.400 --> 0:10:31.280 loving what I'm seeing thus far. I hope he keeps 0:10:31.320 --> 0:10:33.120 it on, you know, you know, keeps that up and 0:10:33.160 --> 0:10:36.280 just stay consistent, Just be consistent throughout the camp and 0:10:36.400 --> 0:10:37.840 let that lead over to the season. 0:10:38.080 --> 0:10:41.600 I've been focused, you know, obviously me being a defensive guy. 0:10:41.720 --> 0:10:47.880 Just see this defense look like and it's like they 0:10:47.920 --> 0:10:48.760 have missed the beats. 0:10:50.480 --> 0:10:54.920 You think about our defensive backs backfield and what they've 0:10:54.960 --> 0:10:58.160 added to that to that mix. You bring him Emanuel Forbes, 0:10:58.200 --> 0:11:01.960 You're bringing Quid Martin camp Curl it's getting his hands 0:11:02.000 --> 0:11:04.920 on the football, so you Kenda Fuller is always going 0:11:04.960 --> 0:11:05.640 to be around the ball. 0:11:06.240 --> 0:11:07.800 Benjamin Saint Jews was great. 0:11:07.840 --> 0:11:10.560 You know he got the message, you will you draft 0:11:10.600 --> 0:11:13.800 the first round corner and uh, you know only two. 0:11:13.840 --> 0:11:16.160 I mean we'll play three three corners a lot. But 0:11:16.800 --> 0:11:18.120 Kua can play nickel. 0:11:18.160 --> 0:11:18.480 He can. 0:11:18.840 --> 0:11:21.040 You know we're gonna play big nickel a lot. And 0:11:21.400 --> 0:11:23.920 Kendle's started and Ford's gonna start. So you got to 0:11:23.960 --> 0:11:26.160 show show improved that you you deserve to be on 0:11:26.200 --> 0:11:28.439 that football field. So I think the secondary of the 0:11:28.480 --> 0:11:32.120 backhands really really made U a huge strides. 0:11:32.200 --> 0:11:34.480 Yeah, I'm sure they have. I mean, we we been 0:11:34.480 --> 0:11:35.920 talking about that too. The thing I want to ask you, 0:11:35.960 --> 0:11:38.839 because you're a defensive guy, you're really bright, dude, is 0:11:39.280 --> 0:11:43.000 the role of that buffalo nickel slash true nickel roll 0:11:43.080 --> 0:11:45.040 in the defense? And like, how hard is it to 0:11:45.080 --> 0:11:47.480 find someone who's got that skill set? Because I think 0:11:47.480 --> 0:11:49.319 I look at Cam and when I watch Cam's film, 0:11:49.600 --> 0:11:51.320 you can play in the box because he's a bigger, 0:11:51.400 --> 0:11:54.840 kind of taller, longer limbed guy. Kwan's not really cut 0:11:54.880 --> 0:11:57.480 that same way, right, Like, how do you find that 0:11:57.640 --> 0:11:59.520 skill set and a guy that can take some reps 0:11:59.520 --> 0:12:01.680 off of can in the box. And have you seen 0:12:01.800 --> 0:12:04.000 enough from those young safeties that said, hey, this guy 0:12:04.440 --> 0:12:05.680 possibly could fill that role. 0:12:05.720 --> 0:12:06.920 I know, I'm kind to put you on the spot. 0:12:07.000 --> 0:12:08.320 Yeah, you're just looking at him. 0:12:08.559 --> 0:12:11.040 You go back and you watch film of Kwan last 0:12:11.080 --> 0:12:14.920 year Illinois where the versatility that he brings where he's 0:12:14.920 --> 0:12:17.440 not afraid to tackle, he'll mix it up, and he 0:12:17.520 --> 0:12:21.280 also has the ability to you don't worry about you 0:12:21.800 --> 0:12:24.800 can he cover and he covered the slot receiver to 0:12:24.880 --> 0:12:27.720 quick twitch up guys like the Satana Moss and he 0:12:27.760 --> 0:12:30.240 has the ability to do that. But he also brings 0:12:30.280 --> 0:12:33.480 the versatility where you can bring him back and drop 0:12:33.559 --> 0:12:36.080 him into the safety position. So now from a sche 0:12:36.160 --> 0:12:39.360 meta standpoint, you're able to do more things. From a 0:12:39.400 --> 0:12:42.440 cover standpoint, Okay, is he is he a nickel? Is 0:12:42.440 --> 0:12:44.920 he playing safety? You can do different things. Can you 0:12:44.920 --> 0:12:47.120 can blitze him. He's not afraid to mix it up 0:12:47.160 --> 0:12:49.200 inside the box. So he kind of as the best 0:12:49.240 --> 0:12:52.679 of both worlds because of his ability to cover and 0:12:52.960 --> 0:12:54.520 he's not afraid to mix it up. 0:12:54.760 --> 0:12:57.240 My question would be too to that you have to 0:12:57.280 --> 0:12:58.559 have size to play that position. 0:12:58.600 --> 0:12:59.200 That's my question. 0:12:59.280 --> 0:13:02.680 Yeah, think it more so to me just knowing, you know, 0:13:02.720 --> 0:13:04.679 and just watching it. And I'm not a guy that can, 0:13:04.720 --> 0:13:06.600 you know, play the position on a high level, but 0:13:07.080 --> 0:13:08.680 just seeing some of the guys, I would rather have 0:13:08.760 --> 0:13:10.840 a guy that I know he's gonna thud and I 0:13:10.880 --> 0:13:13.480 know he's going to cover. And to me, we I 0:13:13.520 --> 0:13:17.600 played against a guy like that in Buffalo cornerback Winfield. 0:13:17.600 --> 0:13:20.520 Winfield. I mean he was smaller than me, you know 0:13:20.520 --> 0:13:20.880 what I mean. 0:13:21.040 --> 0:13:23.560 And the one thing you knew he's gonna put his 0:13:23.600 --> 0:13:26.200 hat on you, he's gonna cover. So I look at 0:13:26.320 --> 0:13:28.520 that position and I say, now you fast forward all 0:13:28.559 --> 0:13:30.760 these years, you get those guys, and as long as 0:13:30.840 --> 0:13:32.679 you can do two of those things, as long as 0:13:32.679 --> 0:13:34.440 you're not scared of contact and as long as you're 0:13:34.480 --> 0:13:36.520 going to always be there when it comes to coverage, 0:13:36.720 --> 0:13:38.400 I think you can you can get away with not 0:13:38.480 --> 0:13:39.640 happening to worry about that height. 0:13:39.720 --> 0:13:44.160 That What we do a lot of is we not 0:13:44.280 --> 0:13:47.760 only play We'll play our nickel or big nickel against 0:13:48.520 --> 0:13:52.800 three three tight end sets personnel and you know, ace 0:13:52.880 --> 0:13:55.880 personnel two tight end sets and for a lot of 0:13:55.920 --> 0:13:58.960 teams if they want to get into that those formations 0:13:58.960 --> 0:14:01.400 and say we're going to run the all then you have. 0:14:01.520 --> 0:14:04.680 To be taking on some You'll be taking on some 0:14:04.800 --> 0:14:05.520 dimon and stuff. 0:14:05.520 --> 0:14:06.640 You can be taking off some linemen. 0:14:06.720 --> 0:14:09.040 And if you don't have that ability to take on 0:14:09.200 --> 0:14:11.520 blocks and get off, you get stuck on the block 0:14:11.559 --> 0:14:12.719 and it can be ugly for. 0:14:12.720 --> 0:14:14.520 You because I'll tell you as I tell you it's 0:14:14.559 --> 0:14:16.120 a blocker. If I saw a dB in the box, 0:14:16.160 --> 0:14:19.680 I don't care Buffalo Nickel safety right, I was gonna 0:14:19.720 --> 0:14:22.280 put you over the and and that was my It 0:14:22.320 --> 0:14:23.640 was like one of those things like you just like 0:14:23.680 --> 0:14:26.480 that was yeah, and so like it's it takes a 0:14:26.520 --> 0:14:28.720 special dude get it to get in there and kind 0:14:28.720 --> 0:14:31.640 of to mix it up. So so today's first aid pads. 0:14:31.840 --> 0:14:34.480 So I think that got something. I'm watching the thing. 0:14:34.560 --> 0:14:37.040 The great thing about our defensive front. 0:14:36.840 --> 0:14:38.400 Is oh yeah, that's a great point. 0:14:38.960 --> 0:14:44.440 They dictate the terms of the gage. Yeah. So you 0:14:44.520 --> 0:14:45.680 can't just say, hey. 0:14:45.560 --> 0:14:49.200 I'm on one on one block Jonathan Allen, O Ryan 0:14:49.240 --> 0:14:52.480 Payne and I want to combo up to this, uh 0:14:52.680 --> 0:14:56.800 this Buffalo Nickel or Kwime Manos camp, because more than 0:14:56.960 --> 0:14:59.200 likely you're gonna lose your one on one battles against 0:14:59.480 --> 0:15:04.360 the defense, and Jack understands that his front sets the 0:15:04.480 --> 0:15:05.960 toll offices. 0:15:06.360 --> 0:15:08.520 They have to do that a great thing, Like can 0:15:08.560 --> 0:15:10.560 you put it yourself now being in that being that 0:15:10.640 --> 0:15:14.200 linebacker in this defense. I mean, you're gonna basically go 0:15:14.240 --> 0:15:16.240 out there every time and you dictating what they put 0:15:16.280 --> 0:15:18.120 on the field because of what you got up front. 0:15:18.160 --> 0:15:19.560 They got to make sure you blocked. 0:15:19.800 --> 0:15:21.600 Like I was watching, I was watching a clip of 0:15:21.800 --> 0:15:24.520 the Philadelphia game, the first Philadelphia game from last year, 0:15:24.600 --> 0:15:26.760 and uh, drum pin out of safety, Like how do 0:15:26.760 --> 0:15:28.840 you get a safety? And it's literally just it's gapped 0:15:28.840 --> 0:15:31.400 out of the Cinco front. So five defensive linemen, he 0:15:31.480 --> 0:15:33.840 pluses over the tight end and the linebackers just stepped 0:15:33.880 --> 0:15:36.760 up enough that the double team couldn't hang, and he 0:15:36.800 --> 0:15:38.680 just whooped the tight end and like that's all it is. 0:15:38.680 --> 0:15:41.800 Like it And so as a linebacker, as a Buffalo Nickel, 0:15:41.880 --> 0:15:44.760 you don't have to have to make the play because 0:15:44.760 --> 0:15:47.240 you're just peeling blocks so that they can make the play. 0:15:47.600 --> 0:15:50.040 And I think that that's something that again maybe it's 0:15:50.040 --> 0:15:51.440 important to think about it. As long as they're where 0:15:51.440 --> 0:15:53.120 they're supposed to be, when they're supposed to be there 0:15:53.360 --> 0:15:55.320 let those other guys make some plays. I think that's 0:15:55.320 --> 0:15:55.960 pretty exciting. 0:15:56.040 --> 0:16:01.600 Yeah, they have to understand run fits, not just front fits. 0:16:02.120 --> 0:16:05.760 Even if it just steps to get those double teams 0:16:05.800 --> 0:16:08.400 off those guys. Yeah, if I can take a step 0:16:08.520 --> 0:16:11.920 to get that double team off, it's gonna free those 0:16:12.040 --> 0:16:14.800 those that big group up to go out and make place. 0:16:15.000 --> 0:16:16.920 Yeah, and you see value of having like big Field 0:16:16.920 --> 0:16:19.720 comeback right playing that sure nose and how that even 0:16:19.760 --> 0:16:22.880 having a nose freeze up you know Ridgeway last year, 0:16:23.040 --> 0:16:25.440 how that freeze up pain and Allen to be in 0:16:25.440 --> 0:16:27.360 one on one situations on guards. 0:16:27.000 --> 0:16:29.080 And not getting Ridgeway strong as hell. 0:16:29.440 --> 0:16:32.880 He is a big, wide body man. I don't know 0:16:32.920 --> 0:16:33.320 what he weighs. 0:16:33.480 --> 0:16:36.360 He looks like credit for his job he did. I 0:16:36.400 --> 0:16:36.840 think he is. 0:16:36.920 --> 0:16:38.760 I think heavy handed. 0:16:38.920 --> 0:16:40.840 Heavy handed reminds me of the d line coach z 0:16:40.920 --> 0:16:42.360 a little bit, like they kind of feel like they're 0:16:42.360 --> 0:16:43.280 like brothers or something. 0:16:43.280 --> 0:16:43.400 You know. 0:16:43.440 --> 0:16:45.360 I mean you ever see walking around the building, but 0:16:45.440 --> 0:16:48.160 that flat top perfectly faded and those biceps that are 0:16:48.160 --> 0:16:50.760 bigger than my thighs, Like that dude is not messing around. 0:16:51.120 --> 0:16:53.160 So okay, I think we're pretty excited about that and 0:16:53.200 --> 0:16:54.960 for me past catchers, I got to talk about Logan 0:16:55.000 --> 0:16:57.840 Thomas real quick, like that dude. He just he looks healthy. 0:16:58.120 --> 0:17:00.080 I think he's got a good feel fletch for like 0:17:00.560 --> 0:17:04.280