Speaker 1: Today and the Command Center Podcast. We got big time news,
Speaker 1: Josh Harris, Magic Johnson, new ownership. We're talking that training camp.
Speaker 1: London Fletcher talks Big Nichols, Santana talks about Dimmy Brown
Speaker 1: and has Fletch seen Barbie find out? Welcome to the
Speaker 1: Command Center Podcast. I'm Logan Paulson here as always with
Speaker 1: Santana Moss and we have a special guest today.
Speaker 2: Santana a man.
Speaker 1: Who needs no introduction, but we have to introduce him
Speaker 1: because it is a vocal medium, and that's London Fletcher,
Speaker 1: the captain.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us.
Speaker 4: Oh, I appreciate y'all having me. Man, I get to
Speaker 4: come on y'all pot.
Speaker 3: Yeah, helmet for London.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because he's here, Man, I've been.
Speaker 5: I was on the circuit kind of taking my son
Speaker 5: around to a bunch.
Speaker 2: Of different bunch of camps about camps.
Speaker 5: Football camps. He's going to his freshman year. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 5: he plays a receiver, slight receiver. Man. He wanted to
Speaker 5: play running back when he first started playing tackle. I
Speaker 5: say no, no, no, you're not playing to see guys
Speaker 5: like you, well, no, because they don't value the running back.
Speaker 4: And this was this was three years ago that I
Speaker 4: tell him, now, that's smart play receiver, get the ball,
Speaker 4: you know space and they I already knew where there
Speaker 4: was trending towards non value and running backs.
Speaker 6: That's kind of that's kind of you know, you know,
Speaker 6: thinking about the kind of guy you are, you know
Speaker 6: far as how you played the game, you know mentally physically.
Speaker 6: Other parents won't think about the game and that aspect,
Speaker 6: like think down eat line, okay, how how what position
Speaker 6: you want to play?
Speaker 3: What would you be value? How would they take care
Speaker 3: of you?
Speaker 6: And I thought it was just off the you know,
Speaker 6: part of taking care of your body.
Speaker 3: You would you would say that to.
Speaker 6: Him, just knowing that he's a little guy, probably ain't
Speaker 6: gonna get no bigger than what he is, probably wouldn't
Speaker 6: probably know my more than what five nine, five ten
Speaker 6: you think. And just I'm just I'm just saying from
Speaker 6: how I look at him now, you know, so I
Speaker 6: would thought that would have been your mindset. But you
Speaker 6: may then, interesting point, man, the value at a running
Speaker 6: back position in the NFL.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know.
Speaker 4: This is obviously hoping you know, he keeps going gets
Speaker 4: that to that level. But even I mean, just you
Speaker 4: get worn down in high school, you get worn down
Speaker 4: in cold by.
Speaker 5: The time you get to the league.
Speaker 3: And now they're just.
Speaker 5: Not taking they don't value these guys like that.
Speaker 1: There was that running back from Tennessee, Jalen Hurts. Does
Speaker 1: that sound right? And he switched from running back to
Speaker 1: receiver and was drafted as a receiver in the NFL.
Speaker 1: And that was the reason he cided, is like that,
Speaker 1: I just am not going to get paid if I
Speaker 1: want to. I want to have a long career in
Speaker 1: the NFL. He got hurt and isn't the league anymore.
Speaker 1: But you know, so anyway, we got some big news
Speaker 1: around the team, guys, big big news. It's been a
Speaker 1: while since you've done the podcast. Big news. Josh Harris
Speaker 1: has bought the Commanders Magic Johnson. Obviously, I want to
Speaker 1: get your guys thoughts on that. I know Tanny were
Speaker 1: at the event. I know Fletch you got to meet
Speaker 1: them last week at training camp practice the hated g Man.
Speaker 3: I mean, I mean we kind of knew it was brewing.
Speaker 6: You know, we just was waiting for that moment till
Speaker 6: they can say it's final and everybody approved. You know,
Speaker 6: these guys bid, but you know, once it was all
Speaker 6: said and done. If you was at the event, whether
Speaker 6: he was a fan of a guy like us, energy
Speaker 6: was second or none. I haven't seen it like that
Speaker 6: in a while here, and we kind of, you know,
Speaker 6: reflect a little bit as players about when was the
Speaker 6: last time we felt the fans appreciation like that? And
Speaker 6: it was you know, I went all the way back
Speaker 6: into my first year here in five and then twenty
Speaker 6: twelve year with RG three and that season we had.
Speaker 6: So I just love the energy, man. I think it's
Speaker 6: going to be great for everybody. The Harris's Harris Group
Speaker 6: has so many aspects and different things they trying to,
Speaker 6: you know, get after them, make sure that they can
Speaker 6: bring that experience back to this ball club.
Speaker 3: And I think it's great. Man.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I wasn't here at the event for the rally and everything,
Speaker 4: but I did listen to press cans. I was on
Speaker 4: a vacation with my family on the dr and I'm
Speaker 4: listening to the press conference and I just loved everything
Speaker 4: I was hearing from from the new ownership group and
Speaker 4: the way they were talking and really wondering what they
Speaker 4: want to, you know, bring to this organization and what
Speaker 4: they what they hoped to accomplish here. You know, Magic
Speaker 4: talked about he said, man, I don't invest in teams
Speaker 4: just for ego. I invested with So when you hear that,
Speaker 4: you know, you know he's a proven winner. And with
Speaker 4: Harris and their group having the exerience you know, owning
Speaker 4: the Sixers, owning the New Jersey Devils, there's experience behind this.
Speaker 4: Get these guys and then you have you know, Mitchell
Speaker 4: Rails and Mark Iron. These guys are local, They're passionate
Speaker 4: that they've been fans of the team. Josh has has
Speaker 4: mentioned how he grew up rooting for the team. So
Speaker 4: I'm happy, you know, just for the fans and also
Speaker 4: for the players here to have that renewed support, renewed
Speaker 4: energy that you behind the team. We're already trending towards
Speaker 4: the sellout the first game of the season against the Cardinals.
Speaker 4: And this is not like we're playing the Cowboys the Giants,
Speaker 4: so the Eagles, this is going to be a sellout
Speaker 4: and the stadium will be are fans and that's you know,
Speaker 4: obviously a testament to excitement around here.
Speaker 1: I think that's so important for guys like John and
Speaker 1: Terry who've kind of been through some some bad times.
Speaker 1: You mentioned that they were fans of the team, you know,
Speaker 1: when they were younger there from the area.
Speaker 2: Is that is that important or like, I don't know
Speaker 2: how you feel about it.
Speaker 3: I don't think it has anything to do with what
Speaker 3: you're going to do as an owner. Yeah, but it's
Speaker 3: great to.
Speaker 6: Have that, to know that these guys locally grew up
Speaker 6: and they saw the different phases of this organization.
Speaker 3: They saw the championship years they were young kids.
Speaker 6: Then they got a chance to experience that, so they
Speaker 6: know what it's like to be a fan. And then
Speaker 6: you know, one of the things that they mentioned is
Speaker 6: just sitting back looking doing looking at you know, watching
Speaker 6: the numbers, you know, just being real saying hey, back
Speaker 6: in eight this team was top two in sales, and
Speaker 6: fast forward to sixteen seventeen.
Speaker 3: We was bottom.
Speaker 6: You know, we was last basically, so they know what
Speaker 6: it takes to do what's the most important, and that's brain.
Speaker 3: You know, the fans back to this ball club because
Speaker 3: it's going to work.
Speaker 6: You know, it's going to basically have a I guess
Speaker 6: you could say a trickle effect that's going to trickle
Speaker 6: down to the guys play and everything else, like one
Speaker 6: of the things I've always mentioned about when I play here,
Speaker 6: I paid no attention to the outside of what I
Speaker 6: did on the field, but I didn't know how much
Speaker 6: that meant so much to our game as well.
Speaker 3: You know, I didn't know that.
Speaker 6: You know, if it's not stable enough up top, then
Speaker 6: it has an effect down at the bottom. And you
Speaker 6: won't say that as a player, because you got to
Speaker 6: go out there and win games. That's the most important thing.
Speaker 6: But when it comes to the fan base and being supportive,
Speaker 6: that's where it hurts.
Speaker 4: I can't think Also when you look at the Harris
Speaker 4: Group and when you had experience with the passionate fan
Speaker 4: base already of like the Philadelphia Sixers. We all know
Speaker 4: Philadelphia fans and how passionate they are about their sports team.
Speaker 4: When you know, and when they took over the seventy
Speaker 4: six ers, you know, it was not doing very well
Speaker 4: from on the court end off the court in terms
Speaker 4: of the fans coming to the games and stuff like that,
Speaker 4: and they've been able to you know, they're selling our
Speaker 4: games there constantly, you know, considered one of the best
Speaker 4: teams in the Eastern Conference, and they know what it's
Speaker 4: like to deal with a passionate fan base and get
Speaker 4: them back and gaze. And when you mentioned does it
Speaker 4: does it matter that they were fans that once once before.
Speaker 4: They know what it's like to be passionate fans. They've
Speaker 4: seen how our passion, how passionate our fans can be,
Speaker 4: and you know, just bringing them back in the fold.
Speaker 4: And obviously you're gonna have to win. That's how you
Speaker 4: maintain it. And you know they're gonna do some different
Speaker 4: things from an organizational standpoint, So it's it's great.
Speaker 6: We were talking to Mark and you mentioned the experience
Speaker 6: you got at a seventy six ers game.
Speaker 3: Just the food alone. You know what was that like,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 6: Like far As, was it just your meal or was
Speaker 6: it how they brought it out and anything?
Speaker 4: Were just just when you when you walked into that door.
Speaker 4: You know, I went to the UH to a sixer
Speaker 4: game and in Philadelphia and when you came through that door, man,
Speaker 4: just the experience of like, man, it was like a machine.
Speaker 4: How they were you know, getting you in and out
Speaker 4: of the you know, different stations or whatever, the options,
Speaker 4: the selections had, all those different things. Like I was
Speaker 4: thoroughly impressed with the operation in a way you know,
Speaker 4: everything was a handle in that uh in that arena.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And obviously, like there's I got a lot of
Speaker 1: questions about football ops and what ownership means for football ops.
Speaker 1: And I don't think we really know because it's not
Speaker 1: exactly like a case study to show you, but I
Speaker 1: think it all kind of trends towards a better product
Speaker 1: on the field, a better fan experience, a better presence
Speaker 1: in the community.
Speaker 4: Well, you think about this from a football ops standpoint,
Speaker 4: this this last offseason where I'm sure they would have
Speaker 4: loved to, you know, resigned Doron and gave him a
Speaker 4: big deal. But I'm sure with the influx of ownership change,
Speaker 4: you couldn't really could you really engage Montez and try
Speaker 4: and Girl and Cam Curl.
Speaker 5: And some of the other guys.
Speaker 4: Maybe you want to extend, you know, Antonio Gibson with
Speaker 4: things like that, So you're kind of ham strong in
Speaker 4: terms of what you want to do, or maybe there
Speaker 4: were some other pieces that you wanted to add on
Speaker 4: so on. From some other teams, there's like we don't
Speaker 4: have we don't we can't operate because of the budget
Speaker 4: and what it required to bring in this player. So
Speaker 4: you know, it's almost like you didn't last year you
Speaker 4: were operating with very resource on right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, that's really challenging. So obviously, I think I
Speaker 1: think we're all excited about it. Right, we don't really
Speaker 1: know exactly what's going on, but I think we know
Speaker 1: that it's an experience group.
Speaker 2: I'm passionate about it. I think that's exciting.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about something that we're passionate about, and that's
Speaker 1: training camp and that's football.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: We've been out watching practice almost every single day, which
Speaker 1: is great. I just want to get high level thoughts,
Speaker 1: like what do you see? What are you excited about.
Speaker 1: Something that's caught my eye a little bit is the
Speaker 1: pass catcher specifically. I know Tanne you like that as well. Yeah,
Speaker 1: just let's to get our comments on.
Speaker 3: That Brown Brown.
Speaker 6: I mean, I gotta give him this and I don't
Speaker 6: want to say flowers, but give.
Speaker 3: Him his due, you know what I mean.
Speaker 6: We've been talking about this kid for the last few years,
Speaker 6: and we was wondering when it was gonna click. I
Speaker 6: think right now, you know, it looks like I know
Speaker 6: it's earlier, but it's it's clicking it. Trust me, I'm
Speaker 6: a receiver. I remember how and I went through an experience.
Speaker 6: I got hurt initially my first year, So my second
Speaker 6: year was like my first year, but my third year
Speaker 6: was no nothing like either year. And it seems to
Speaker 6: be the same for him. It's like things are slowed down.
Speaker 6: He's making catches, he's even trying the one hand catches
Speaker 6: when he don't have to. But that just shows you
Speaker 6: where his mind is at right now. He's that confident,
Speaker 6: he's getting open, he's getting such you know, separation. We
Speaker 6: talk about the other three receivers and we have the four.
Speaker 6: We have a fourth that can be someone's first somewhere
Speaker 6: else or number one or number two guys. So I'm
Speaker 6: loving what I'm seeing thus far. I hope he keeps
Speaker 6: it on, you know, you know, keeps that up and
Speaker 6: just stay consistent, Just be consistent throughout the camp and
Speaker 6: let that lead over to the season.
Speaker 4: I've been focused, you know, obviously me being a defensive guy.
Speaker 5: Just see this defense look like and it's like they
Speaker 5: have missed the beats.
Speaker 4: You think about our defensive backs backfield and what they've
Speaker 4: added to that to that mix. You bring him Emanuel Forbes,
Speaker 4: You're bringing Quid Martin camp Curl it's getting his hands
Speaker 4: on the football, so you Kenda Fuller is always going
Speaker 4: to be around the ball.
Speaker 5: Benjamin Saint Jews was great.
Speaker 4: You know he got the message, you will you draft
Speaker 4: the first round corner and uh, you know only two.
Speaker 4: I mean we'll play three three corners a lot. But
Speaker 4: Kua can play nickel.
Speaker 2: He can.
Speaker 4: You know we're gonna play big nickel a lot. And
Speaker 4: Kendle's started and Ford's gonna start. So you got to
Speaker 4: show show improved that you you deserve to be on
Speaker 4: that football field. So I think the secondary of the
Speaker 4: backhands really really made U a huge strides.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure they have. I mean, we we been
Speaker 1: talking about that too. The thing I want to ask you,
Speaker 1: because you're a defensive guy, you're really bright, dude, is
Speaker 1: the role of that buffalo nickel slash true nickel roll
Speaker 1: in the defense? And like, how hard is it to
Speaker 1: find someone who's got that skill set? Because I think
Speaker 1: I look at Cam and when I watch Cam's film,
Speaker 1: you can play in the box because he's a bigger,
Speaker 1: kind of taller, longer limbed guy. Kwan's not really cut
Speaker 1: that same way, right, Like, how do you find that
Speaker 1: skill set and a guy that can take some reps
Speaker 1: off of can in the box. And have you seen
Speaker 1: enough from those young safeties that said, hey, this guy
Speaker 1: possibly could fill that role.
Speaker 2: I know, I'm kind to put you on the spot.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you're just looking at him.
Speaker 4: You go back and you watch film of Kwan last
Speaker 4: year Illinois where the versatility that he brings where he's
Speaker 4: not afraid to tackle, he'll mix it up, and he
Speaker 4: also has the ability to you don't worry about you
Speaker 4: can he cover and he covered the slot receiver to
Speaker 4: quick twitch up guys like the Satana Moss and he
Speaker 4: has the ability to do that. But he also brings
Speaker 4: the versatility where you can bring him back and drop
Speaker 4: him into the safety position. So now from a sche
Speaker 4: meta standpoint, you're able to do more things. From a
Speaker 4: cover standpoint, Okay, is he is he a nickel? Is
Speaker 4: he playing safety? You can do different things. Can you
Speaker 4: can blitze him. He's not afraid to mix it up
Speaker 4: inside the box. So he kind of as the best
Speaker 4: of both worlds because of his ability to cover and
Speaker 4: he's not afraid to mix it up.
Speaker 6: My question would be too to that you have to
Speaker 6: have size to play that position.
Speaker 2: That's my question.
Speaker 6: Yeah, think it more so to me just knowing, you know,
Speaker 6: and just watching it. And I'm not a guy that can,
Speaker 6: you know, play the position on a high level, but
Speaker 6: just seeing some of the guys, I would rather have
Speaker 6: a guy that I know he's gonna thud and I
Speaker 6: know he's going to cover. And to me, we I
Speaker 6: played against a guy like that in Buffalo cornerback Winfield.
Speaker 3: Winfield. I mean he was smaller than me, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean.
Speaker 6: And the one thing you knew he's gonna put his
Speaker 6: hat on you, he's gonna cover. So I look at
Speaker 6: that position and I say, now you fast forward all
Speaker 6: these years, you get those guys, and as long as
Speaker 6: you can do two of those things, as long as
Speaker 6: you're not scared of contact and as long as you're
Speaker 6: going to always be there when it comes to coverage,
Speaker 6: I think you can you can get away with not
Speaker 6: happening to worry about that height.
Speaker 4: That What we do a lot of is we not
Speaker 4: only play We'll play our nickel or big nickel against
Speaker 4: three three tight end sets personnel and you know, ace
Speaker 4: personnel two tight end sets and for a lot of
Speaker 4: teams if they want to get into that those formations
Speaker 4: and say we're going to run the all then you have.
Speaker 6: To be taking on some You'll be taking on some
Speaker 6: dimon and stuff.
Speaker 5: You can be taking off some linemen.
Speaker 4: And if you don't have that ability to take on
Speaker 4: blocks and get off, you get stuck on the block
Speaker 4: and it can be ugly for.
Speaker 1: You because I'll tell you as I tell you it's
Speaker 1: a blocker. If I saw a dB in the box,
Speaker 1: I don't care Buffalo Nickel safety right, I was gonna
Speaker 1: put you over the and and that was my It
Speaker 1: was like one of those things like you just like
Speaker 1: that was yeah, and so like it's it takes a
Speaker 1: special dude get it to get in there and kind
Speaker 1: of to mix it up. So so today's first aid pads.
Speaker 1: So I think that got something. I'm watching the thing.
Speaker 5: The great thing about our defensive front.
Speaker 2: Is oh yeah, that's a great point.
Speaker 5: They dictate the terms of the gage. Yeah. So you
Speaker 5: can't just say, hey.
Speaker 4: I'm on one on one block Jonathan Allen, O Ryan
Speaker 4: Payne and I want to combo up to this, uh
Speaker 4: this Buffalo Nickel or Kwime Manos camp, because more than
Speaker 4: likely you're gonna lose your one on one battles against
Speaker 4: the defense, and Jack understands that his front sets the
Speaker 4: toll offices.
Speaker 6: They have to do that a great thing, Like can
Speaker 6: you put it yourself now being in that being that
Speaker 6: linebacker in this defense. I mean, you're gonna basically go
Speaker 6: out there every time and you dictating what they put
Speaker 6: on the field because of what you got up front.
Speaker 3: They got to make sure you blocked.
Speaker 1: Like I was watching, I was watching a clip of
Speaker 1: the Philadelphia game, the first Philadelphia game from last year,
Speaker 1: and uh, drum pin out of safety, Like how do
Speaker 1: you get a safety? And it's literally just it's gapped
Speaker 1: out of the Cinco front. So five defensive linemen, he
Speaker 1: pluses over the tight end and the linebackers just stepped
Speaker 1: up enough that the double team couldn't hang, and he
Speaker 1: just whooped the tight end and like that's all it is.
Speaker 1: Like it And so as a linebacker, as a Buffalo Nickel,
Speaker 1: you don't have to have to make the play because
Speaker 1: you're just peeling blocks so that they can make the play.
Speaker 1: And I think that that's something that again maybe it's
Speaker 1: important to think about it. As long as they're where
Speaker 1: they're supposed to be, when they're supposed to be there
Speaker 1: let those other guys make some plays. I think that's
Speaker 1: pretty exciting.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they have to understand run fits, not just front fits.
Speaker 4: Even if it just steps to get those double teams
Speaker 4: off those guys. Yeah, if I can take a step
Speaker 4: to get that double team off, it's gonna free those
Speaker 4: those that big group up to go out and make place.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you see value of having like big Field
Speaker 1: comeback right playing that sure nose and how that even
Speaker 1: having a nose freeze up you know Ridgeway last year,
Speaker 1: how that freeze up pain and Allen to be in
Speaker 1: one on one situations on guards.
Speaker 5: And not getting Ridgeway strong as hell.
Speaker 2: He is a big, wide body man. I don't know
Speaker 2: what he weighs.
Speaker 3: He looks like credit for his job he did. I
Speaker 3: think he is.
Speaker 5: I think heavy handed.
Speaker 1: Heavy handed reminds me of the d line coach z
Speaker 1: a little bit, like they kind of feel like they're
Speaker 1: like brothers or something.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: I mean you ever see walking around the building, but
Speaker 1: that flat top perfectly faded and those biceps that are
Speaker 1: bigger than my thighs, Like that dude is not messing around.
Speaker 1: So okay, I think we're pretty excited about that and
Speaker 1: for me past catchers, I got to talk about Logan
Speaker 1: Thomas real quick, like that dude. He just he looks healthy.
Speaker 1: I think he's got a good feel fletch for like
Speaker 1: finding space in zones, you know, and like making concepts.
Speaker 5: That has to be part of you know, his quarterback background.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so. I think it's one hundred percent right.
Speaker 3: He got a different bounce this year too.
Speaker 6: I mean you can always can you can easily tell
Speaker 6: that you know, you know when and I've been in
Speaker 6: those shoes before. When you have something hampering you or
Speaker 6: something bothering you, you know, lower lower e stremities, lower
Speaker 6: body wise, it's hard to really be yourself. And I
Speaker 6: saw that a lot last year with the brace on
Speaker 6: it and taking the brace off, trying to get comfortable with
Speaker 6: figuring it out. What can he do or what can
Speaker 6: he not do? This year is like it's not on
Speaker 6: his mind. He's out there bouncing around. He's been catching
Speaker 6: a lot of passes across the middle. So that's telling
Speaker 6: you already that the quarterbacks is looking for their tight end.
Speaker 3: So you know that gives me.
Speaker 6: Just thinking about Kansas City and seeing what you know,
Speaker 6: Kelsey was able to do, and they didn't have the
Speaker 6: targets outside.
Speaker 4: You think about this, even if you take it even
Speaker 4: back to when Andy Reid was at Philadelphia, they never
Speaker 4: really had top yeah flight to well.
Speaker 2: Early early obviously they got Deshaun.
Speaker 5: Well talking about like a core.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I'm.
Speaker 1: Saying I'm saying this is for those for those like
Speaker 1: nerds out there. This is like you know, probably two thousand.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, early early career down the three four five.
Speaker 5: They always have been focused on getting a tight light
Speaker 5: end in the football. You go back to Chad.
Speaker 4: Lewis, some of those guys sell right, like they've always
Speaker 4: featured the tight end in this offense.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, he's not you know, Travis Kelsey, he's the
Speaker 5: best of the gay right now. But tight ends are
Speaker 5: gonna catch a lot of balls in this offense.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I think that's something that really sticks out to me. Right,
Speaker 1: it's just his ability again finding zones, his using his size.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: We talked about this a little off, like you know
Speaker 1: with Jason Whitten and stuff, like he's been able to
Speaker 1: body guys up and again be open when he's not
Speaker 1: open just because of his frame. So I think he's
Speaker 1: a guy that's poisoned. He seems to have a good
Speaker 1: connection with Sam. But that's something I want to point out.
Speaker 1: We already talked about this a little bit defensive with
Speaker 1: you know, with the Nickel defensive line versus offensive line.
Speaker 1: I feel like that defensive front right now, just watching
Speaker 1: practice in team past settings is crazy. I think on
Speaker 1: Friday last week they put in their Sinkle package and
Speaker 1: it was like, you know, I think the offensive line
Speaker 1: is developing, but like every single person would lose on
Speaker 1: one on one in that period. So you get like
Speaker 1: eight plays in, there's five losses, you know, for pressures
Speaker 1: or hurries or sacks, iron sharpening, iron right, how is
Speaker 1: that going to affect that offensive line?
Speaker 3: It's going to make them better. They're gonna lose their confidence,
Speaker 3: it's gonna be so.
Speaker 1: I mean like they had had a tough day on Friday,
Speaker 1: but then you go to team run and and they
Speaker 1: were running the ball over the yard on it right,
Speaker 1: Because that's.
Speaker 4: And that's gonna be the if you look at our team,
Speaker 4: our offense, that's gonna be our strength. We want to
Speaker 4: throw the football around, but we're built to run it.
Speaker 4: To run the ball, and that's what.
Speaker 2: You elaborate on that.
Speaker 4: What do you say that, Well, you look at like
Speaker 4: you move, you move cosmy to you go out and
Speaker 4: get Nick Nick Gates, I'm sorry. He's more run blocker,
Speaker 4: big body, whether Sadik, Charles or Chris Paul, those guys
Speaker 4: are better run blockers.
Speaker 5: And even Charles Linto he's a better run blocker.
Speaker 1: And I think Wiley falls in that category too, And
Speaker 1: it kind of reminds me of like two thousand when
Speaker 1: Moon Mike was here, twenty ten, eleven, twelve thirteen, a
Speaker 1: little bit smaller guys, but really athletic guys. And so
Speaker 1: when you see like Sam and Wiley working together on combinations,
Speaker 1: like dudes are getting gapped out. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: And what I mean by gapped out, it's like you
Speaker 1: got to have gap integrity. And those guys are so
Speaker 1: fast and so powerful, like big big film Man was
Speaker 1: like in the d gap last week, because those guys
Speaker 1: are running so fast the football.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so you know that you look at the and
Speaker 4: you look at the backs. We have, Yeah, Brian Robinson,
Speaker 4: who looks he looks amazing for yeah, he looks amazing.
Speaker 1: Chris right the way and the way he's been catching
Speaker 1: the football We didn't talk about him in Pascatch, but
Speaker 1: b rob has been impressive because he's winning on choices,
Speaker 1: he's catching back shoulder fades, he's doing all sorts of
Speaker 1: crazy stuff.
Speaker 3: And he also said he feels like itself again.
Speaker 6: You know that year after that injury, that that that incident,
Speaker 6: he didn't feel like yourself throughout the year, So you
Speaker 6: can honestly say that just looking at him. I remember
Speaker 6: I was out to the to the little shindig that
Speaker 6: men Smooth went to on a Sunday, you know, watching
Speaker 6: those kids that I forgot the school. You know, I
Speaker 6: looked at him then it was just like bro a specimen,
Speaker 6: you know what I mean. And ourrmatory smith to ask him,
Speaker 6: he's like, bro, I didn't know b Robb was that big.
Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, he's a beast.
Speaker 6: And just to hear him say he feels like himself.
Speaker 6: He saw what he did in the preseason.
Speaker 4: Going back to when you look at offense, and it's
Speaker 4: hard to also the offensive live defensive line, it's hard
Speaker 4: to really measure them. And you know with no paths
Speaker 4: on too, so obviously when when you put the paths on,
Speaker 4: you can you can see the the double teams and
Speaker 4: all those types of things.
Speaker 5: But the work that they're gonna get, the work that Wiley's.
Speaker 4: Gonna get on the regular they our base is going
Speaker 4: to get sweat and chase, and the work that Charles
Speaker 4: is gonna get. And then you're talking about those young
Speaker 4: guards because Sam still a young player, Sadiq, Charle still young,
Speaker 4: Chris Paul still Well you're getting that work against Jonathan Nallen,
Speaker 4: the Ron pay for Darrin Mathis and big Ridgeway, and
Speaker 4: it's on a day in and day out basis, you're
Speaker 4: going to improve.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And so I was going to say, like it's
Speaker 1: funny watching Leno for example, and Wiley both are experienced guys. Right,
Speaker 1: So first day a lot of vertical sets are like,
Speaker 1: that's not going to work. Next day a lot of
Speaker 1: b kind of angled sets, aggressive sets, you know, chasing
Speaker 1: montes were like, whoa, we'n't ready for that. They had
Speaker 1: a plan for that the next day, right, And it
Speaker 1: was just this constant chess bat over the last three
Speaker 1: or four days. So in terms of ironing shoppening iron
Speaker 1: it's like everyone is forcing you to kind of like
Speaker 1: you were saying in one on ones, I got to
Speaker 1: pull out all my different tricks, yeah, to win these reps,
Speaker 1: and I think that's in turn forcing our guys to
Speaker 1: get different looks and see better opportunities. So obviously there's
Speaker 1: a lot of training camp left. Today was the first
Speaker 1: day of PATS. What are you looking forward to? What
Speaker 1: are kind of the things you want to see progress
Speaker 1: over the next two weeks.
Speaker 6: I want to see the protection, you know, be be
Speaker 6: soldid you know that's something that you're going to say,
Speaker 6: but yeah, no, no, exactly. Yeah, I'm not even saying
Speaker 6: from what I've seen, I'm just I just wanted to
Speaker 6: get to the point to where we knew how it
Speaker 6: was last year. We want him to be on one
Speaker 6: and one accord, and because I think that's that's that's
Speaker 6: going to take our offense far. You know, we talk
Speaker 6: about having a young quarterback, that's one thing, but you
Speaker 6: don't want him to be young and worried about getting
Speaker 6: guys on his feet, you know what I mean, guys
Speaker 6: in his box. You know, you don't want guys in
Speaker 6: his face. And so if we can see that, you know,
Speaker 6: you know, get better throughout training camp. To me, I
Speaker 6: think everything else should, you know, take care of itself.
Speaker 6: We have the weapons outside, we have the weapons in
Speaker 6: the backfield. The offense should be you know, smooth rolling
Speaker 6: if those guys are front are all on the same accord.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you mentioned just really getting getting their chemistry together
Speaker 4: as the offensive line unit, because it's so important they
Speaker 4: got you got four new guys playing positions. Even though
Speaker 4: Cosmy started last year or started some games last year,
Speaker 4: he started at right tackle, so he's the right guard now.
Speaker 4: So getting developing chemistry, different sets. Yeah, how quickly that
Speaker 4: unit can come together. And then I also want to
Speaker 4: see Sam continue to grow as a quarterback.
Speaker 2: And you have you seen progression there?
Speaker 3: You have you you saw?
Speaker 4: I mean he had he had a rough day out
Speaker 4: of practice on Saturday, but how does he bounce back?
Speaker 5: He bounced back better on Monday's practice. Yeah, so you're
Speaker 5: going to have those things with a young quarterback.
Speaker 4: Also a quarterback who's learning a new system, his second
Speaker 4: system in two years. So you know, the chemistry that
Speaker 4: he'll continue to develop with his receivers. But he's it's
Speaker 4: we got to understand, this is only the sixth day
Speaker 4: that they've been out there in practice, so he's going
Speaker 4: to get a lot of reps. The practices that they're
Speaker 4: going to get against the Ravens. Those practices are going
Speaker 4: to be vital the game against the Browns and all
Speaker 4: those types of things. You just want to continue to
Speaker 4: see him grow as a quarterback.
Speaker 1: I'm really glad you brought that up, Fletch, because I
Speaker 1: think a lot of people think, oh, we're not where
Speaker 1: we want to be now. But training camps the time
Speaker 1: where your team like comes together, Yeah, and you figure
Speaker 1: out what you're good at, you figure out what you're
Speaker 1: bad at, you figure what your quarterback like. So I
Speaker 1: think it's important for fans to say, man, hey, we
Speaker 1: got you know, a little bit of time left here
Speaker 1: to kind.
Speaker 5: Of work out and even I mean, yeah, and.
Speaker 2: It's been bad, that's the thing. It's not been like bad.
Speaker 5: We got to understand this.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we're going to play the Cardinals on September tenth,
Speaker 4: but even that day, when you look at fast forward
Speaker 4: a month past that October tenth, we should be a
Speaker 4: lot better right that we are on September tenth.
Speaker 5: Did you continue to understand who you are?
Speaker 4: Probably our first six eight games of the season, you're
Speaker 4: still trying to figure out who you are from identity standpoint.
Speaker 4: As office, even from a deferent standpoint, we know what
Speaker 4: we think we should be. But each team is each
Speaker 4: year brings his own new kind of identity as a team.
Speaker 1: Absolutely obviously a lot of stuff to be excited about.
Speaker 1: And I think society right now is excited about Oppenheimer
Speaker 1: and Barbie. And I know that you guys don't get
Speaker 1: out of a lot. You go to a lot of movies.
Speaker 1: You watched a lot of TV, but you don't watch
Speaker 1: a lot of movies.
Speaker 6: So I used to be a guy that go into
Speaker 6: movies every Tuesday on our office. Now so since covid,
Speaker 6: like you know, post ovid, I'm streaming everything. So I'm
Speaker 6: let me see what movie I'm on right now. I'm
Speaker 6: on I'm on the show that I that I just
Speaker 6: got back on. I believe it's called Cruise Summer.
Speaker 2: Rules, Summer.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's dope.
Speaker 6: You are like every episode and then I have another
Speaker 6: one lying this on.
Speaker 3: I think that's I heard it?
Speaker 2: Is that? What's that about? Even I don't even know.
Speaker 3: It's like special ops. What the name is Zoe? What
Speaker 3: the name is Avatar?
Speaker 6: She's yeah, he's like the lead actress and that and
Speaker 6: she's bad ass, so you know, I'm one of those
Speaker 6: guys like, after all this, after my workout and stuff,
Speaker 6: I go sit on the couch then, and that's what
Speaker 6: I do.
Speaker 2: You haven't seen Barbie, and I heard it's a good movie.
Speaker 5: I can see going to see Barbie, you know what, I.
Speaker 6: Know, honestly heard. I assume, like, like the movie that
Speaker 6: just came out, Little Mermaid. I just had it in
Speaker 6: my he that when it comes out, taking my daughters,
Speaker 6: you know, Barbie, when I when I'm home taking my daughters.
Speaker 6: But I wasn't around for both of us, you know,
Speaker 6: when it came out. So I know my daughter saw
Speaker 6: Mermaid without me check it. I just watched it myself
Speaker 6: this weekend. I want I wonder it was a good
Speaker 6: flip Barbie. I don't know, but I didn't know. I
Speaker 6: didn't get a chance to take it take my daughters.
Speaker 6: But I might check it out myself.
Speaker 3: Just to see.
Speaker 5: I'm not saying, man, I haven't gone.
Speaker 2: To the movie on the golf course so much. You're
Speaker 2: probably not.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just you know what, last I fall asleep
Speaker 4: in the movie theater, really, man, I.
Speaker 2: Just like, yeah, I.
Speaker 5: Just fall asleep in movie theaters.
Speaker 1: Now, that's a cool and quiet yeah, watching you watch
Speaker 1: TV Fletch show.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I watched a lot of shows I met to.
Speaker 5: I like the British type movies.
Speaker 2: What do we got?
Speaker 5: Yeah, Like I watched Queen and Queen.
Speaker 3: So I'm kind of weird.
Speaker 2: Do you watch Peaky Blinders? Yeah, I watched. I started that.
Speaker 2: Actually it's a lot of fun.
Speaker 5: So I watch stuff like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, apparently the Crown, right, is that what it's called?
Speaker 2: Crowd the ground is excellent? So Fletcher's Queen.
Speaker 4: Queen Charlotte just k I watched that series. So I'm
Speaker 4: just you're you know what? I was so a tests
Speaker 4: on the football field, man, I need I want to see.
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