1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: Today and the Command Center Podcast. We got big time news, 2 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:08,719 Speaker 1: Josh Harris, Magic Johnson, new ownership. We're talking that training camp. 3 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:12,399 Speaker 1: London Fletcher talks Big Nichols, Santana talks about Dimmy Brown 4 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 1: and has Fletch seen Barbie find out? Welcome to the 5 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:26,759 Speaker 1: Command Center Podcast. I'm Logan Paulson here as always with 6 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 1: Santana Moss and we have a special guest today. 7 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 2: Santana a man. 8 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 1: Who needs no introduction, but we have to introduce him 9 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 1: because it is a vocal medium, and that's London Fletcher, 10 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 1: the captain. 11 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:36,199 Speaker 3: Man. 12 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us. 13 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 4: Oh, I appreciate y'all having me. Man, I get to 14 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 4: come on y'all pot. 15 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, helmet for London. 16 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:45,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, because he's here, Man, I've been. 17 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 5: I was on the circuit kind of taking my son 18 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 5: around to a bunch. 19 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 2: Of different bunch of camps about camps. 20 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 5: Football camps. He's going to his freshman year. Yeah. Yeah, 21 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 5: he plays a receiver, slight receiver. Man. He wanted to 22 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 5: play running back when he first started playing tackle. I 23 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 5: say no, no, no, you're not playing to see guys 24 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 5: like you, well, no, because they don't value the running back. 25 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 4: And this was this was three years ago that I 26 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 4: tell him, now, that's smart play receiver, get the ball, 27 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 4: you know space and they I already knew where there 28 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 4: was trending towards non value and running backs. 29 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 6: That's kind of that's kind of you know, you know, 30 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 6: thinking about the kind of guy you are, you know 31 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 6: far as how you played the game, you know mentally physically. 32 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:34,039 Speaker 6: Other parents won't think about the game and that aspect, 33 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 6: like think down eat line, okay, how how what position 34 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 6: you want to play? 35 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 3: What would you be value? How would they take care 36 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 3: of you? 37 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 6: And I thought it was just off the you know, 38 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 6: part of taking care of your body. 39 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 3: You would you would say that to. 40 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 6: Him, just knowing that he's a little guy, probably ain't 41 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 6: gonna get no bigger than what he is, probably wouldn't 42 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 6: probably know my more than what five nine, five ten 43 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 6: you think. And just I'm just I'm just saying from 44 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 6: how I look at him now, you know, so I 45 00:01:57,320 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 6: would thought that would have been your mindset. But you 46 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:02,559 Speaker 6: may then, interesting point, man, the value at a running 47 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 6: back position in the NFL. 48 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know. 49 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 4: This is obviously hoping you know, he keeps going gets 50 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 4: that to that level. But even I mean, just you 51 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 4: get worn down in high school, you get worn down 52 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:16,360 Speaker 4: in cold by. 53 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 5: The time you get to the league. 54 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 3: And now they're just. 55 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 5: Not taking they don't value these guys like that. 56 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 1: There was that running back from Tennessee, Jalen Hurts. Does 57 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 1: that sound right? And he switched from running back to 58 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 1: receiver and was drafted as a receiver in the NFL. 59 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 1: And that was the reason he cided, is like that, 60 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 1: I just am not going to get paid if I 61 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 1: want to. I want to have a long career in 62 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 1: the NFL. He got hurt and isn't the league anymore. 63 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 1: But you know, so anyway, we got some big news 64 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 1: around the team, guys, big big news. It's been a 65 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 1: while since you've done the podcast. Big news. Josh Harris 66 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 1: has bought the Commanders Magic Johnson. Obviously, I want to 67 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 1: get your guys thoughts on that. I know Tanny were 68 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 1: at the event. I know Fletch you got to meet 69 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 1: them last week at training camp practice the hated g Man. 70 00:02:57,760 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 3: I mean, I mean we kind of knew it was brewing. 71 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 6: You know, we just was waiting for that moment till 72 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 6: they can say it's final and everybody approved. You know, 73 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 6: these guys bid, but you know, once it was all 74 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:08,839 Speaker 6: said and done. If you was at the event, whether 75 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 6: he was a fan of a guy like us, energy 76 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 6: was second or none. I haven't seen it like that 77 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 6: in a while here, and we kind of, you know, 78 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 6: reflect a little bit as players about when was the 79 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 6: last time we felt the fans appreciation like that? And 80 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 6: it was you know, I went all the way back 81 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 6: into my first year here in five and then twenty 82 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:29,640 Speaker 6: twelve year with RG three and that season we had. 83 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 6: So I just love the energy, man. I think it's 84 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 6: going to be great for everybody. The Harris's Harris Group 85 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 6: has so many aspects and different things they trying to, 86 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 6: you know, get after them, make sure that they can 87 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 6: bring that experience back to this ball club. 88 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 3: And I think it's great. Man. 89 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:44,839 Speaker 5: Yeah. 90 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 4: I wasn't here at the event for the rally and everything, 91 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 4: but I did listen to press cans. I was on 92 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 4: a vacation with my family on the dr and I'm 93 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 4: listening to the press conference and I just loved everything 94 00:03:57,320 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 4: I was hearing from from the new ownership group and 95 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 4: the way they were talking and really wondering what they 96 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 4: want to, you know, bring to this organization and what 97 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 4: they what they hoped to accomplish here. You know, Magic 98 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 4: talked about he said, man, I don't invest in teams 99 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 4: just for ego. I invested with So when you hear that, 100 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 4: you know, you know he's a proven winner. And with 101 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:19,799 Speaker 4: Harris and their group having the exerience you know, owning 102 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:23,600 Speaker 4: the Sixers, owning the New Jersey Devils, there's experience behind this. 103 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 4: Get these guys and then you have you know, Mitchell 104 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 4: Rails and Mark Iron. These guys are local, They're passionate 105 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 4: that they've been fans of the team. Josh has has 106 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:34,919 Speaker 4: mentioned how he grew up rooting for the team. So 107 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 4: I'm happy, you know, just for the fans and also 108 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:43,679 Speaker 4: for the players here to have that renewed support, renewed 109 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:47,239 Speaker 4: energy that you behind the team. We're already trending towards 110 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:50,160 Speaker 4: the sellout the first game of the season against the Cardinals. 111 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 4: And this is not like we're playing the Cowboys the Giants, 112 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 4: so the Eagles, this is going to be a sellout 113 00:04:55,440 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 4: and the stadium will be are fans and that's you know, 114 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 4: obviously a testament to excitement around here. 115 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 1: I think that's so important for guys like John and 116 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 1: Terry who've kind of been through some some bad times. 117 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 1: You mentioned that they were fans of the team, you know, 118 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 1: when they were younger there from the area. 119 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:14,040 Speaker 2: Is that is that important or like, I don't know 120 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 2: how you feel about it. 121 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:16,599 Speaker 3: I don't think it has anything to do with what 122 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 3: you're going to do as an owner. Yeah, but it's 123 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 3: great to. 124 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 6: Have that, to know that these guys locally grew up 125 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 6: and they saw the different phases of this organization. 126 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 3: They saw the championship years they were young kids. 127 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 6: Then they got a chance to experience that, so they 128 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:32,039 Speaker 6: know what it's like to be a fan. And then 129 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:34,039 Speaker 6: you know, one of the things that they mentioned is 130 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:36,719 Speaker 6: just sitting back looking doing looking at you know, watching 131 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 6: the numbers, you know, just being real saying hey, back 132 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 6: in eight this team was top two in sales, and 133 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 6: fast forward to sixteen seventeen. 134 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 3: We was bottom. 135 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 6: You know, we was last basically, so they know what 136 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 6: it takes to do what's the most important, and that's brain. 137 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 3: You know, the fans back to this ball club because 138 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 3: it's going to work. 139 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:00,719 Speaker 6: You know, it's going to basically have a I guess 140 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:02,719 Speaker 6: you could say a trickle effect that's going to trickle 141 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 6: down to the guys play and everything else, like one 142 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 6: of the things I've always mentioned about when I play here, 143 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:10,040 Speaker 6: I paid no attention to the outside of what I 144 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 6: did on the field, but I didn't know how much 145 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 6: that meant so much to our game as well. 146 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 3: You know, I didn't know that. 147 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 6: You know, if it's not stable enough up top, then 148 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 6: it has an effect down at the bottom. And you 149 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 6: won't say that as a player, because you got to 150 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 6: go out there and win games. That's the most important thing. 151 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 6: But when it comes to the fan base and being supportive, 152 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 6: that's where it hurts. 153 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:31,600 Speaker 4: I can't think Also when you look at the Harris 154 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:36,840 Speaker 4: Group and when you had experience with the passionate fan 155 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 4: base already of like the Philadelphia Sixers. We all know 156 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 4: Philadelphia fans and how passionate they are about their sports team. 157 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 4: When you know, and when they took over the seventy 158 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 4: six ers, you know, it was not doing very well 159 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 4: from on the court end off the court in terms 160 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 4: of the fans coming to the games and stuff like that, 161 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:59,279 Speaker 4: and they've been able to you know, they're selling our 162 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 4: games there constantly, you know, considered one of the best 163 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 4: teams in the Eastern Conference, and they know what it's 164 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 4: like to deal with a passionate fan base and get 165 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 4: them back and gaze. And when you mentioned does it 166 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 4: does it matter that they were fans that once once before. 167 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 4: They know what it's like to be passionate fans. They've 168 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 4: seen how our passion, how passionate our fans can be, 169 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 4: and you know, just bringing them back in the fold. 170 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 4: And obviously you're gonna have to win. That's how you 171 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 4: maintain it. And you know they're gonna do some different 172 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 4: things from an organizational standpoint, So it's it's great. 173 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 6: We were talking to Mark and you mentioned the experience 174 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 6: you got at a seventy six ers game. 175 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 3: Just the food alone. You know what was that like, 176 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 3: you know. 177 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 6: Like far As, was it just your meal or was 178 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 6: it how they brought it out and anything? 179 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 4: Were just just when you when you walked into that door. 180 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 4: You know, I went to the UH to a sixer 181 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 4: game and in Philadelphia and when you came through that door, man, 182 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 4: just the experience of like, man, it was like a machine. 183 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 4: How they were you know, getting you in and out 184 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 4: of the you know, different stations or whatever, the options, 185 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 4: the selections had, all those different things. Like I was 186 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 4: thoroughly impressed with the operation in a way you know, 187 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 4: everything was a handle in that uh in that arena. 188 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, And obviously, like there's I got a lot of 189 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 1: questions about football ops and what ownership means for football ops. 190 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 1: And I don't think we really know because it's not 191 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 1: exactly like a case study to show you, but I 192 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 1: think it all kind of trends towards a better product 193 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 1: on the field, a better fan experience, a better presence 194 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: in the community. 195 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 4: Well, you think about this from a football ops standpoint, 196 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 4: this this last offseason where I'm sure they would have 197 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 4: loved to, you know, resigned Doron and gave him a 198 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 4: big deal. But I'm sure with the influx of ownership change, 199 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 4: you couldn't really could you really engage Montez and try 200 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:46,080 Speaker 4: and Girl and Cam Curl. 201 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 5: And some of the other guys. 202 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:49,599 Speaker 4: Maybe you want to extend, you know, Antonio Gibson with 203 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 4: things like that, So you're kind of ham strong in 204 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 4: terms of what you want to do, or maybe there 205 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 4: were some other pieces that you wanted to add on 206 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 4: so on. From some other teams, there's like we don't 207 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 4: have we don't we can't operate because of the budget 208 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 4: and what it required to bring in this player. So 209 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 4: you know, it's almost like you didn't last year you 210 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:13,200 Speaker 4: were operating with very resource on right. 211 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:15,599 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, that's really challenging. So obviously, I think I 212 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:17,559 Speaker 1: think we're all excited about it. Right, we don't really 213 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 1: know exactly what's going on, but I think we know 214 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 1: that it's an experience group. 215 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 2: I'm passionate about it. I think that's exciting. 216 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 1: Let's talk about something that we're passionate about, and that's 217 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 1: training camp and that's football. 218 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 2: Right. 219 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 1: We've been out watching practice almost every single day, which 220 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:31,679 Speaker 1: is great. I just want to get high level thoughts, 221 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 1: like what do you see? What are you excited about. 222 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 1: Something that's caught my eye a little bit is the 223 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 1: pass catcher specifically. I know Tanne you like that as well. Yeah, 224 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:40,439 Speaker 1: just let's to get our comments on. 225 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 3: That Brown Brown. 226 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:44,839 Speaker 6: I mean, I gotta give him this and I don't 227 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 6: want to say flowers, but give. 228 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 3: Him his due, you know what I mean. 229 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 6: We've been talking about this kid for the last few years, 230 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 6: and we was wondering when it was gonna click. I 231 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 6: think right now, you know, it looks like I know 232 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 6: it's earlier, but it's it's clicking it. Trust me, I'm 233 00:09:57,000 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 6: a receiver. I remember how and I went through an experience. 234 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:02,839 Speaker 6: I got hurt initially my first year, So my second 235 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 6: year was like my first year, but my third year 236 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 6: was no nothing like either year. And it seems to 237 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 6: be the same for him. It's like things are slowed down. 238 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:13,839 Speaker 6: He's making catches, he's even trying the one hand catches 239 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 6: when he don't have to. But that just shows you 240 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 6: where his mind is at right now. He's that confident, 241 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 6: he's getting open, he's getting such you know, separation. We 242 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:23,319 Speaker 6: talk about the other three receivers and we have the four. 243 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 6: We have a fourth that can be someone's first somewhere 244 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 6: else or number one or number two guys. So I'm 245 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 6: loving what I'm seeing thus far. I hope he keeps 246 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 6: it on, you know, you know, keeps that up and 247 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 6: just stay consistent, Just be consistent throughout the camp and 248 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 6: let that lead over to the season. 249 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 4: I've been focused, you know, obviously me being a defensive guy. 250 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 5: Just see this defense look like and it's like they 251 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 5: have missed the beats. 252 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 4: You think about our defensive backs backfield and what they've 253 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 4: added to that to that mix. You bring him Emanuel Forbes, 254 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 4: You're bringing Quid Martin camp Curl it's getting his hands 255 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 4: on the football, so you Kenda Fuller is always going 256 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 4: to be around the ball. 257 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 5: Benjamin Saint Jews was great. 258 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 4: You know he got the message, you will you draft 259 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 4: the first round corner and uh, you know only two. 260 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 4: I mean we'll play three three corners a lot. But 261 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 4: Kua can play nickel. 262 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 2: He can. 263 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 4: You know we're gonna play big nickel a lot. And 264 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 4: Kendle's started and Ford's gonna start. So you got to 265 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 4: show show improved that you you deserve to be on 266 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:28,439 Speaker 4: that football field. So I think the secondary of the 267 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 4: backhands really really made U a huge strides. 268 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure they have. I mean, we we been 269 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 1: talking about that too. The thing I want to ask you, 270 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:38,839 Speaker 1: because you're a defensive guy, you're really bright, dude, is 271 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 1: the role of that buffalo nickel slash true nickel roll 272 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 1: in the defense? And like, how hard is it to 273 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 1: find someone who's got that skill set? Because I think 274 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:49,319 Speaker 1: I look at Cam and when I watch Cam's film, 275 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 1: you can play in the box because he's a bigger, 276 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 1: kind of taller, longer limbed guy. Kwan's not really cut 277 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 1: that same way, right, Like, how do you find that 278 00:11:57,640 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 1: skill set and a guy that can take some reps 279 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:01,680 Speaker 1: off of can in the box. And have you seen 280 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 1: enough from those young safeties that said, hey, this guy 281 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:05,680 Speaker 1: possibly could fill that role. 282 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 2: I know, I'm kind to put you on the spot. 283 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, you're just looking at him. 284 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 4: You go back and you watch film of Kwan last 285 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 4: year Illinois where the versatility that he brings where he's 286 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 4: not afraid to tackle, he'll mix it up, and he 287 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 4: also has the ability to you don't worry about you 288 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 4: can he cover and he covered the slot receiver to 289 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 4: quick twitch up guys like the Satana Moss and he 290 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 4: has the ability to do that. But he also brings 291 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 4: the versatility where you can bring him back and drop 292 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 4: him into the safety position. So now from a sche 293 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 4: meta standpoint, you're able to do more things. From a 294 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 4: cover standpoint, Okay, is he is he a nickel? Is 295 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 4: he playing safety? You can do different things. Can you 296 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 4: can blitze him. He's not afraid to mix it up 297 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 4: inside the box. So he kind of as the best 298 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:52,679 Speaker 4: of both worlds because of his ability to cover and 299 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 4: he's not afraid to mix it up. 300 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 6: My question would be too to that you have to 301 00:12:57,280 --> 00:12:58,559 Speaker 6: have size to play that position. 302 00:12:58,600 --> 00:12:59,200 Speaker 2: That's my question. 303 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:02,680 Speaker 6: Yeah, think it more so to me just knowing, you know, 304 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:04,679 Speaker 6: and just watching it. And I'm not a guy that can, 305 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 6: you know, play the position on a high level, but 306 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:08,680 Speaker 6: just seeing some of the guys, I would rather have 307 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 6: a guy that I know he's gonna thud and I 308 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 6: know he's going to cover. And to me, we I 309 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 6: played against a guy like that in Buffalo cornerback Winfield. 310 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 3: Winfield. I mean he was smaller than me, you know 311 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 3: what I mean. 312 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:23,560 Speaker 6: And the one thing you knew he's gonna put his 313 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:26,200 Speaker 6: hat on you, he's gonna cover. So I look at 314 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 6: that position and I say, now you fast forward all 315 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 6: these years, you get those guys, and as long as 316 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:32,679 Speaker 6: you can do two of those things, as long as 317 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:34,440 Speaker 6: you're not scared of contact and as long as you're 318 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 6: going to always be there when it comes to coverage, 319 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 6: I think you can you can get away with not 320 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 6: happening to worry about that height. 321 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 4: That What we do a lot of is we not 322 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 4: only play We'll play our nickel or big nickel against 323 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 4: three three tight end sets personnel and you know, ace 324 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 4: personnel two tight end sets and for a lot of 325 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:58,960 Speaker 4: teams if they want to get into that those formations 326 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 4: and say we're going to run the all then you have. 327 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:04,680 Speaker 6: To be taking on some You'll be taking on some 328 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 6: dimon and stuff. 329 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 5: You can be taking off some linemen. 330 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 4: And if you don't have that ability to take on 331 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 4: blocks and get off, you get stuck on the block 332 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:12,719 Speaker 4: and it can be ugly for. 333 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 1: You because I'll tell you as I tell you it's 334 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 1: a blocker. If I saw a dB in the box, 335 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 1: I don't care Buffalo Nickel safety right, I was gonna 336 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 1: put you over the and and that was my It 337 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 1: was like one of those things like you just like 338 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 1: that was yeah, and so like it's it takes a 339 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 1: special dude get it to get in there and kind 340 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 1: of to mix it up. So so today's first aid pads. 341 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 1: So I think that got something. I'm watching the thing. 342 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 5: The great thing about our defensive front. 343 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 2: Is oh yeah, that's a great point. 344 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 5: They dictate the terms of the gage. Yeah. So you 345 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 5: can't just say, hey. 346 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 4: I'm on one on one block Jonathan Allen, O Ryan 347 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 4: Payne and I want to combo up to this, uh 348 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 4: this Buffalo Nickel or Kwime Manos camp, because more than 349 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 4: likely you're gonna lose your one on one battles against 350 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 4: the defense, and Jack understands that his front sets the 351 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 4: toll offices. 352 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 6: They have to do that a great thing, Like can 353 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 6: you put it yourself now being in that being that 354 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 6: linebacker in this defense. I mean, you're gonna basically go 355 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 6: out there every time and you dictating what they put 356 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 6: on the field because of what you got up front. 357 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 3: They got to make sure you blocked. 358 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 1: Like I was watching, I was watching a clip of 359 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 1: the Philadelphia game, the first Philadelphia game from last year, 360 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 1: and uh, drum pin out of safety, Like how do 361 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 1: you get a safety? And it's literally just it's gapped 362 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 1: out of the Cinco front. So five defensive linemen, he 363 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 1: pluses over the tight end and the linebackers just stepped 364 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 1: up enough that the double team couldn't hang, and he 365 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 1: just whooped the tight end and like that's all it is. 366 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 1: Like it And so as a linebacker, as a Buffalo Nickel, 367 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 1: you don't have to have to make the play because 368 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 1: you're just peeling blocks so that they can make the play. 369 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 1: And I think that that's something that again maybe it's 370 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 1: important to think about it. As long as they're where 371 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 1: they're supposed to be, when they're supposed to be there 372 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 1: let those other guys make some plays. I think that's 373 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 1: pretty exciting. 374 00:15:56,040 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, they have to understand run fits, not just front fits. 375 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 4: Even if it just steps to get those double teams 376 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 4: off those guys. Yeah, if I can take a step 377 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 4: to get that double team off, it's gonna free those 378 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 4: those that big group up to go out and make place. 379 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you see value of having like big Field 380 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 1: comeback right playing that sure nose and how that even 381 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 1: having a nose freeze up you know Ridgeway last year, 382 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 1: how that freeze up pain and Allen to be in 383 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 1: one on one situations on guards. 384 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 5: And not getting Ridgeway strong as hell. 385 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 2: He is a big, wide body man. I don't know 386 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 2: what he weighs. 387 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 3: He looks like credit for his job he did. I 388 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 3: think he is. 389 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 5: I think heavy handed. 390 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 1: Heavy handed reminds me of the d line coach z 391 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 1: a little bit, like they kind of feel like they're 392 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 1: like brothers or something. 393 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 3: You know. 394 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 1: I mean you ever see walking around the building, but 395 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 1: that flat top perfectly faded and those biceps that are 396 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 1: bigger than my thighs, Like that dude is not messing around. 397 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 1: So okay, I think we're pretty excited about that and 398 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 1: for me past catchers, I got to talk about Logan 399 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 1: Thomas real quick, like that dude. He just he looks healthy. 400 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:00,080 Speaker 1: I think he's got a good feel fletch for like 401 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 1: finding space in zones, you know, and like making concepts. 402 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:06,880 Speaker 5: That has to be part of you know, his quarterback background. 403 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so. I think it's one hundred percent right. 404 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 3: He got a different bounce this year too. 405 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 6: I mean you can always can you can easily tell 406 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 6: that you know, you know when and I've been in 407 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 6: those shoes before. When you have something hampering you or 408 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 6: something bothering you, you know, lower lower e stremities, lower 409 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 6: body wise, it's hard to really be yourself. And I 410 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 6: saw that a lot last year with the brace on 411 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 6: it and taking the brace off, trying to get comfortable with 412 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 6: figuring it out. What can he do or what can 413 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 6: he not do? This year is like it's not on 414 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:36,879 Speaker 6: his mind. He's out there bouncing around. He's been catching 415 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 6: a lot of passes across the middle. So that's telling 416 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:41,719 Speaker 6: you already that the quarterbacks is looking for their tight end. 417 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:43,400 Speaker 3: So you know that gives me. 418 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 6: Just thinking about Kansas City and seeing what you know, 419 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:48,439 Speaker 6: Kelsey was able to do, and they didn't have the 420 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:49,439 Speaker 6: targets outside. 421 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 4: You think about this, even if you take it even 422 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 4: back to when Andy Reid was at Philadelphia, they never 423 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 4: really had top yeah flight to well. 424 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 2: Early early obviously they got Deshaun. 425 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 5: Well talking about like a core. 426 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I'm. 427 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 1: Saying I'm saying this is for those for those like 428 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 1: nerds out there. This is like you know, probably two thousand. 429 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:12,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, early early career down the three four five. 430 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:15,359 Speaker 5: They always have been focused on getting a tight light 431 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:17,679 Speaker 5: end in the football. You go back to Chad. 432 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:21,920 Speaker 4: Lewis, some of those guys sell right, like they've always 433 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:24,679 Speaker 4: featured the tight end in this offense. 434 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, he's not you know, Travis Kelsey, he's the 435 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:31,479 Speaker 5: best of the gay right now. But tight ends are 436 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 5: gonna catch a lot of balls in this offense. 437 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. 438 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 1: So I think that's something that really sticks out to me. Right, 439 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:38,400 Speaker 1: it's just his ability again finding zones, his using his size. 440 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 2: Right. 441 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:40,199 Speaker 1: We talked about this a little off, like you know 442 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 1: with Jason Whitten and stuff, like he's been able to 443 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:44,879 Speaker 1: body guys up and again be open when he's not 444 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:47,239 Speaker 1: open just because of his frame. So I think he's 445 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:48,680 Speaker 1: a guy that's poisoned. He seems to have a good 446 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 1: connection with Sam. But that's something I want to point out. 447 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 1: We already talked about this a little bit defensive with 448 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 1: you know, with the Nickel defensive line versus offensive line. 449 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 1: I feel like that defensive front right now, just watching 450 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 1: practice in team past settings is crazy. I think on 451 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 1: Friday last week they put in their Sinkle package and 452 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 1: it was like, you know, I think the offensive line 453 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 1: is developing, but like every single person would lose on 454 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:12,919 Speaker 1: one on one in that period. So you get like 455 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:16,120 Speaker 1: eight plays in, there's five losses, you know, for pressures 456 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 1: or hurries or sacks, iron sharpening, iron right, how is 457 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 1: that going to affect that offensive line? 458 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 3: It's going to make them better. They're gonna lose their confidence, 459 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:28,639 Speaker 3: it's gonna be so. 460 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:30,719 Speaker 1: I mean like they had had a tough day on Friday, 461 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 1: but then you go to team run and and they 462 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:35,399 Speaker 1: were running the ball over the yard on it right, 463 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:36,399 Speaker 1: Because that's. 464 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:38,640 Speaker 4: And that's gonna be the if you look at our team, 465 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 4: our offense, that's gonna be our strength. We want to 466 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 4: throw the football around, but we're built to run it. 467 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:47,919 Speaker 4: To run the ball, and that's what. 468 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:48,879 Speaker 2: You elaborate on that. 469 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 4: What do you say that, Well, you look at like 470 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:56,119 Speaker 4: you move, you move cosmy to you go out and 471 00:19:56,119 --> 00:20:00,680 Speaker 4: get Nick Nick Gates, I'm sorry. He's more run blocker, 472 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:04,359 Speaker 4: big body, whether Sadik, Charles or Chris Paul, those guys 473 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 4: are better run blockers. 474 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 5: And even Charles Linto he's a better run blocker. 475 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 1: And I think Wiley falls in that category too, And 476 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:13,360 Speaker 1: it kind of reminds me of like two thousand when 477 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 1: Moon Mike was here, twenty ten, eleven, twelve thirteen, a 478 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:20,159 Speaker 1: little bit smaller guys, but really athletic guys. And so 479 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:23,639 Speaker 1: when you see like Sam and Wiley working together on combinations, 480 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 1: like dudes are getting gapped out. You know what I'm saying, 481 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 1: And what I mean by gapped out, it's like you 482 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 1: got to have gap integrity. And those guys are so 483 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 1: fast and so powerful, like big big film Man was 484 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 1: like in the d gap last week, because those guys 485 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 1: are running so fast the football. 486 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:39,919 Speaker 4: Yeah, so you know that you look at the and 487 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:42,679 Speaker 4: you look at the backs. We have, Yeah, Brian Robinson, 488 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 4: who looks he looks amazing for yeah, he looks amazing. 489 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:48,200 Speaker 1: Chris right the way and the way he's been catching 490 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 1: the football We didn't talk about him in Pascatch, but 491 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 1: b rob has been impressive because he's winning on choices, 492 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 1: he's catching back shoulder fades, he's doing all sorts of 493 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 1: crazy stuff. 494 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 3: And he also said he feels like itself again. 495 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 6: You know that year after that injury, that that that incident, 496 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 6: he didn't feel like yourself throughout the year, So you 497 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 6: can honestly say that just looking at him. I remember 498 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 6: I was out to the to the little shindig that 499 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:12,639 Speaker 6: men Smooth went to on a Sunday, you know, watching 500 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:15,919 Speaker 6: those kids that I forgot the school. You know, I 501 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:19,160 Speaker 6: looked at him then it was just like bro a specimen, 502 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:21,919 Speaker 6: you know what I mean. And ourrmatory smith to ask him, 503 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:24,200 Speaker 6: he's like, bro, I didn't know b Robb was that big. 504 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, he's a beast. 505 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 6: And just to hear him say he feels like himself. 506 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 6: He saw what he did in the preseason. 507 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 4: Going back to when you look at offense, and it's 508 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:36,120 Speaker 4: hard to also the offensive live defensive line, it's hard 509 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 4: to really measure them. And you know with no paths 510 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:43,679 Speaker 4: on too, so obviously when when you put the paths on, 511 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 4: you can you can see the the double teams and 512 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 4: all those types of things. 513 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:51,680 Speaker 5: But the work that they're gonna get, the work that Wiley's. 514 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 4: Gonna get on the regular they our base is going 515 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,640 Speaker 4: to get sweat and chase, and the work that Charles 516 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 4: is gonna get. And then you're talking about those young 517 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 4: guards because Sam still a young player, Sadiq, Charle still young, 518 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 4: Chris Paul still Well you're getting that work against Jonathan Nallen, 519 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 4: the Ron pay for Darrin Mathis and big Ridgeway, and 520 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:14,160 Speaker 4: it's on a day in and day out basis, you're 521 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:15,120 Speaker 4: going to improve. 522 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 5: Yeah. 523 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:16,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, And so I was going to say, like it's 524 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 1: funny watching Leno for example, and Wiley both are experienced guys. Right, 525 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 1: So first day a lot of vertical sets are like, 526 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 1: that's not going to work. Next day a lot of 527 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 1: b kind of angled sets, aggressive sets, you know, chasing 528 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 1: montes were like, whoa, we'n't ready for that. They had 529 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 1: a plan for that the next day, right, And it 530 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 1: was just this constant chess bat over the last three 531 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 1: or four days. So in terms of ironing shoppening iron 532 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 1: it's like everyone is forcing you to kind of like 533 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 1: you were saying in one on ones, I got to 534 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 1: pull out all my different tricks, yeah, to win these reps, 535 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 1: and I think that's in turn forcing our guys to 536 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 1: get different looks and see better opportunities. So obviously there's 537 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:49,920 Speaker 1: a lot of training camp left. Today was the first 538 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,399 Speaker 1: day of PATS. What are you looking forward to? What 539 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:54,200 Speaker 1: are kind of the things you want to see progress 540 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:55,920 Speaker 1: over the next two weeks. 541 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 6: I want to see the protection, you know, be be 542 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 6: soldid you know that's something that you're going to say, 543 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:05,200 Speaker 6: but yeah, no, no, exactly. Yeah, I'm not even saying 544 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 6: from what I've seen, I'm just I just wanted to 545 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 6: get to the point to where we knew how it 546 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 6: was last year. We want him to be on one 547 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 6: and one accord, and because I think that's that's that's 548 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:15,680 Speaker 6: going to take our offense far. You know, we talk 549 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:18,359 Speaker 6: about having a young quarterback, that's one thing, but you 550 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 6: don't want him to be young and worried about getting 551 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:23,160 Speaker 6: guys on his feet, you know what I mean, guys 552 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 6: in his box. You know, you don't want guys in 553 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 6: his face. And so if we can see that, you know, 554 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:29,479 Speaker 6: you know, get better throughout training camp. To me, I 555 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 6: think everything else should, you know, take care of itself. 556 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 6: We have the weapons outside, we have the weapons in 557 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 6: the backfield. The offense should be you know, smooth rolling 558 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 6: if those guys are front are all on the same accord. 559 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, you mentioned just really getting getting their chemistry together 560 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:47,919 Speaker 4: as the offensive line unit, because it's so important they 561 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 4: got you got four new guys playing positions. Even though 562 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 4: Cosmy started last year or started some games last year, 563 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 4: he started at right tackle, so he's the right guard now. 564 00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 4: So getting developing chemistry, different sets. Yeah, how quickly that 565 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:03,879 Speaker 4: unit can come together. And then I also want to 566 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,920 Speaker 4: see Sam continue to grow as a quarterback. 567 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 2: And you have you seen progression there? 568 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 3: You have you you saw? 569 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 4: I mean he had he had a rough day out 570 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 4: of practice on Saturday, but how does he bounce back? 571 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 5: He bounced back better on Monday's practice. Yeah, so you're 572 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 5: going to have those things with a young quarterback. 573 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 4: Also a quarterback who's learning a new system, his second 574 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 4: system in two years. So you know, the chemistry that 575 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:31,120 Speaker 4: he'll continue to develop with his receivers. But he's it's 576 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,200 Speaker 4: we got to understand, this is only the sixth day 577 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:36,959 Speaker 4: that they've been out there in practice, so he's going 578 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,440 Speaker 4: to get a lot of reps. The practices that they're 579 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:42,199 Speaker 4: going to get against the Ravens. Those practices are going 580 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:45,439 Speaker 4: to be vital the game against the Browns and all 581 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:47,159 Speaker 4: those types of things. You just want to continue to 582 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:48,880 Speaker 4: see him grow as a quarterback. 583 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 1: I'm really glad you brought that up, Fletch, because I 584 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 1: think a lot of people think, oh, we're not where 585 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 1: we want to be now. But training camps the time 586 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 1: where your team like comes together, Yeah, and you figure 587 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:57,479 Speaker 1: out what you're good at, you figure out what you're 588 00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 1: bad at, you figure what your quarterback like. So I 589 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:01,440 Speaker 1: think it's important for fans to say, man, hey, we 590 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 1: got you know, a little bit of time left here 591 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 1: to kind. 592 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 5: Of work out and even I mean, yeah, and. 593 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 2: It's been bad, that's the thing. It's not been like bad. 594 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 5: We got to understand this. 595 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:12,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, we're going to play the Cardinals on September tenth, 596 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:16,400 Speaker 4: but even that day, when you look at fast forward 597 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:19,359 Speaker 4: a month past that October tenth, we should be a 598 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 4: lot better right that we are on September tenth. 599 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 5: Did you continue to understand who you are? 600 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:28,160 Speaker 4: Probably our first six eight games of the season, you're 601 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 4: still trying to figure out who you are from identity standpoint. 602 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,359 Speaker 4: As office, even from a deferent standpoint, we know what 603 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 4: we think we should be. But each team is each 604 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 4: year brings his own new kind of identity as a team. 605 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 1: Absolutely obviously a lot of stuff to be excited about. 606 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:45,679 Speaker 1: And I think society right now is excited about Oppenheimer 607 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:49,200 Speaker 1: and Barbie. And I know that you guys don't get 608 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:50,679 Speaker 1: out of a lot. You go to a lot of movies. 609 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 1: You watched a lot of TV, but you don't watch 610 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 1: a lot of movies. 611 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 6: So I used to be a guy that go into 612 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 6: movies every Tuesday on our office. Now so since covid, 613 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:03,200 Speaker 6: like you know, post ovid, I'm streaming everything. So I'm 614 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:04,879 Speaker 6: let me see what movie I'm on right now. I'm 615 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,239 Speaker 6: on I'm on the show that I that I just 616 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 6: got back on. I believe it's called Cruise Summer. 617 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 2: Rules, Summer. 618 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's dope. 619 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:16,440 Speaker 6: You are like every episode and then I have another 620 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 6: one lying this on. 621 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 3: I think that's I heard it? 622 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:21,439 Speaker 2: Is that? What's that about? Even I don't even know. 623 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:27,679 Speaker 3: It's like special ops. What the name is Zoe? What 624 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,200 Speaker 3: the name is Avatar? 625 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 6: She's yeah, he's like the lead actress and that and 626 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 6: she's bad ass, so you know, I'm one of those 627 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 6: guys like, after all this, after my workout and stuff, 628 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:43,879 Speaker 6: I go sit on the couch then, and that's what 629 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:44,200 Speaker 6: I do. 630 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,880 Speaker 2: You haven't seen Barbie, and I heard it's a good movie. 631 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 5: I can see going to see Barbie, you know what, I. 632 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 6: Know, honestly heard. I assume, like, like the movie that 633 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 6: just came out, Little Mermaid. I just had it in 634 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 6: my he that when it comes out, taking my daughters, 635 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:04,879 Speaker 6: you know, Barbie, when I when I'm home taking my daughters. 636 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:06,879 Speaker 6: But I wasn't around for both of us, you know, 637 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 6: when it came out. So I know my daughter saw 638 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 6: Mermaid without me check it. I just watched it myself 639 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 6: this weekend. I want I wonder it was a good 640 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,920 Speaker 6: flip Barbie. I don't know, but I didn't know. I 641 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:19,680 Speaker 6: didn't get a chance to take it take my daughters. 642 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 6: But I might check it out myself. 643 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:21,400 Speaker 3: Just to see. 644 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:23,960 Speaker 5: I'm not saying, man, I haven't gone. 645 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,880 Speaker 2: To the movie on the golf course so much. You're 646 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 2: probably not. 647 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,399 Speaker 4: Yeah, I just you know what, last I fall asleep 648 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 4: in the movie theater, really, man, I. 649 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 2: Just like, yeah, I. 650 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:36,439 Speaker 5: Just fall asleep in movie theaters. 651 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 1: Now, that's a cool and quiet yeah, watching you watch 652 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:40,160 Speaker 1: TV Fletch show. 653 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, I watched a lot of shows I met to. 654 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 5: I like the British type movies. 655 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:45,360 Speaker 2: What do we got? 656 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,159 Speaker 5: Yeah, Like I watched Queen and Queen. 657 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 3: So I'm kind of weird. 658 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 2: Do you watch Peaky Blinders? Yeah, I watched. I started that. 659 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:54,439 Speaker 2: Actually it's a lot of fun. 660 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 5: So I watch stuff like that. 661 00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, apparently the Crown, right, is that what it's called? 662 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:04,160 Speaker 2: Crowd the ground is excellent? So Fletcher's Queen. 663 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 4: Queen Charlotte just k I watched that series. So I'm 664 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,960 Speaker 4: just you're you know what? I was so a tests 665 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 4: on the football field, man, I need I want to see. 666 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:23,159 Speaker 1: All right, Well, hey guys, thank you so much for 667 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:24,680 Speaker 1: joining us Flesh Special Guests. 668 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:25,440 Speaker 2: Thanks for coming by. 669 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 1: Be sure to rate and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts, 670 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,400 Speaker 1: and check out our live coverage of training Camp command 671 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 1: center on our YouTube page. All right, man, we've got 672 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 1: great exclusive training camp access. Make sure you tune into 673 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 1: the YouTube page for that. We are commentating practice, giving 674 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 1: our insights. It's awesome content. 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