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Speaker 1: Welcome everybody.

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Speaker 2: Wednesday edition of the Clay Travis en Buck Sexton Show

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Speaker 2: kicks off right now. We have a lot of news

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Speaker 2: to get to, but the big tragic, breaking news story

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Speaker 2: of this morning is our first.

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Speaker 1: Our first thing we have to discuss.

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Speaker 2: Here a shooting at a church that was in it's

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Speaker 2: in Minneapolis, Minnesota, a Catholic church, a shooting there. It

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Speaker 2: was the school that is attached to this parish that

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Speaker 2: was having its opening day mass. This is something that

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Speaker 2: when I was in Catholic school we used to do

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Speaker 2: as well. You begin the school year with a mass,

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Speaker 2: and at this the Annunciation Catholic Church, this morning there

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Speaker 2: was a mass shooting. The students had gathered in this church.

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Speaker 2: The reports are as follows. There are going to be

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Speaker 2: updates on this. We will bring you updates as soon

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Speaker 2: as we have them in real time over the next

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Speaker 2: three hours of this program. Here's what has been reported

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Speaker 2: so far are that there are two fatalities from this,

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Speaker 2: many more wounded taken to local hospitals in Minneapolis. We

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Speaker 2: don't know the extent of those wounds. The shooter was

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Speaker 2: shooting through stained glass windows and there could be additional

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Speaker 2: bullet wounds of those who have been taking these hospitals.

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Speaker 2: Likely that is the case. They're also though maybe glass

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Speaker 2: or debris wounds, which would hopefully be considerably less serious

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Speaker 2: We know that there are a number of additional injuries,

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Speaker 2: and we don't know the status of those who have

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Speaker 2: on and treated currently. Press conferences are underway. I just

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Speaker 2: saw a Mayor Fry of Minneapolis giving a press conference

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Speaker 2: where he was expressing his condolences to the families.

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Speaker 3: I was just going to update. This is just come down.

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Speaker 3: This is courtesy of Fox News. Let me hit you

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Speaker 3: with these two details. Literally in the last minute, police

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Speaker 3: chief confirmed shooter. And we'll play this audio for you.

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Speaker 3: I just sent it to producer Greg armed with a rifle,

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Speaker 3: shotgunned and a pistol.

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Speaker 1: Quote.

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Speaker 3: This was a deliberate act of violence against innocent children.

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Speaker 3: Sheer cruelty and cowardice of firing into a church full

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Speaker 3: Two young kids eight and ten years old were killed

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Speaker 3: sitting in the church pews. So that is just announced

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Speaker 3: by the head of the Minneapolis Police Chief, Brian O'Hara.

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Speaker 3: And again we'll get you the official audio of that,

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Speaker 3: but literally in the last minute, that breaking news. So

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Speaker 2: If there is a final circle of hell, who would

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Speaker 2: shoot children in a church belongs there? This is about

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Speaker 2: as evil as anything as any act could be. Clay

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Speaker 2: Also in the news, I'm wondering why they haven't made

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Speaker 2: this connection, or rather police are not saying they are connected.

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Speaker 2: But there was a separate mass shooting right next to

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Speaker 2: a Catholic high school in South Minneapolis yesterday. Seven people

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Speaker 2: were shot there, one fatally, and the suspect escaped. He

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Speaker 2: fired thirty rounds from a rifle. So someone fired thirty

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Speaker 2: rounds from a rifle in South Minneapolis yesterday killed someone,

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Speaker 2: seven people shot and today at another church setting in

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Speaker 2: this I think the first one. It was near a

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Speaker 2: for their We used to call it a convocation mass

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Speaker 2: when I was at a Catholic high school.

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Speaker 1: So I would.

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Speaker 2: I would think that there's a high likelihood, Clay, that

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Speaker 2: Maybe there's details we don't have yet, and that's why

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Speaker 1: But it certainly seems to be the case.

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Speaker 2: The shooter is dead, self inflicted gunshot wound, is the

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Speaker 2: reporter we're getting so far, Which would which which would

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Speaker 2: shooting like this, The cowardly gunman will take his own

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Speaker 2: life as soon as he has committed massive carnage and destruction. Clay,

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Speaker 2: we don't have any information on the shooter yet. I

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Speaker 2: all dressed in black. We don't have anything beyond and

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Speaker 2: Beyond that, I don't think we have any identifying information.

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Speaker 2: But this is is a reminder of some things that

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Speaker 1: And evil exists in the world.

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Speaker 2: I think that there is a turning toward church generally

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Speaker 1: We don't know the motive.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's tough to get beyond the the reality

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Speaker 1: Obviously it seems to be anti Catholic in nature.

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Speaker 2: I can't get beyond that description. I don't know, you know, Clay,

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Speaker 2: the lines of the Nashville school shooter, for example, who's

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Speaker 2: a anti Catholic, anti traditionalist terrorist. Is an Jihatis?

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Speaker 1: We don't know. All we know right now is the

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Speaker 1: tragedy of the shooting.

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Speaker 3: Let's play a couple of these cuts that just have

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Speaker 3: come in buck from the Minneapolis Police Chief. This is

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Speaker 3: Brian O'Hara addressing the media. Cut twenty seven.

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Speaker 4: During the miss a gunman approached on the outside on

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Speaker 4: was armed with a rifle, a shotgun, and a pistol.

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Speaker 4: This was a deliberate act of violence against innocent children

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Speaker 3: I would also point this out, Buck, I thought everything

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Speaker 3: you said was very well articulated. Minneapolis has had a

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Speaker 3: for a city of its size, a lot of really

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Speaker 3: awful violent acts. I mean, first of all, the George

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Speaker 2: Huge parts race riots that burned down a section of

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we just had in the Minneapolis area, if I'm

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Speaker 3: then we had the massive search for that, and now

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Speaker 3: I would point out I believe Minneapolis, because the police

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Speaker 3: an unprecedented level of lack of police. In other words,

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Speaker 3: I think they still need to hire back hundreds of

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Speaker 3: and there's been just a cascading series of violent acts

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Speaker 3: I'm fed up. Nobody has our back here at all,

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Speaker 3: and there are massive needs for hiring of police officers.

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Speaker 3: Here is cut twenty eight. This is awful news, but

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Speaker 3: I want you to hear it from the police chief.

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Speaker 3: These were Catholic school kids celebrating morning mass targeted by

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Speaker 4: Two young children, ages eight and ten were killed where

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Speaker 4: Seventeen other people were injured, fourteen of them being children.

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Speaker 1: Two of those chat are in critical condition.

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Speaker 4: The coward who fired these shots ultimately took his own

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Speaker 3: It sounds like, and I know this police officer has

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Speaker 3: It sounds like he's struggling. Brian O'Hara there to even

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Speaker 3: would bet that he's a dad. I know a lot

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Speaker 2: From copside, I knew on the job in the NYPD,

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Speaker 2: Clay who had been on for twenty years, the hardest

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Speaker 2: thing for them was always the bad stuff and the deaths,

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Speaker 2: sometimes murder use or through something like this, through a

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Speaker 2: a thing that you know, the cops can't even they

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Speaker 1: They can't go there. It's too upsetting, understandably, but.

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Speaker 2: That's something that comes with the job that they carry

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Speaker 2: and and you see that with law enforcement officers you know,

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Speaker 2: unfortunately it comes up and it's something that's that's obviously

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Speaker 2: I was just talking to friends of mine here about

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Speaker 2: the concealed carry.

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Speaker 1: Rules in Florida. You can in some religious institutions conceal carry.

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Speaker 1: I believe you have to get specific.

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Speaker 2: Permission though, but in this case, I'm not even sure

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Speaker 2: I'm a big i conceal carry. I'm a big concealed

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Speaker 2: carry advocate. I think it's the only thing that can

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Speaker 2: reliably reduce violent crime in from a civilians We're talking about,

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Speaker 2: not what cops can do from a civilian standpoint. But

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Speaker 2: in this case, the guy walked up to a building

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Speaker 2: and just started firing into the building. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure that there would be even reaction time.

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Speaker 2: I have a son. Now, it's like hard to even

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Speaker 2: is a situation though if you're asking for it, just

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Speaker 2: a pure tactical and law enforcement analysis, the fact that

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Speaker 2: it's not twenty or thirty kids dead is it could

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Speaker 2: have very easily been that under these circumstances.

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Speaker 1: Right. So the shooter here, fortunately, and.

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Speaker 2: I know this is a horrific circumstance, but fortunately had

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Speaker 2: not planned this out with degree of proficiency where the

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Speaker 2: body count could have been much higher. And I know

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Speaker 2: that's not any that doesn't comfort any of the families

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Speaker 2: who have either lost their children or their children have

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Speaker 2: been gravely wounded in this, but just as a society,

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Speaker 2: it's a reminder this could have been a lot worse

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Speaker 2: based on the fact pattern that we know well.

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Speaker 3: This happened at the Covenant School here in Nashville, as

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Speaker 3: you mentioned earlier, and I think religious institutions, sadly, certainly

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Speaker 3: synagogues and Jewish schools have had to do this, but

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Speaker 3: a lot of them now have armed security because this,

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Speaker 3: unfortunately has begun to happen too frequently.

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Speaker 1: To your point, when you have somebody there.

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Speaker 2: Are synagogues here in South Florida that I know of

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Speaker 3: Okay, welcome back in. We are getting more and more

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Speaker 7: You know, it's all developing. And of course it took

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Speaker 1: Carol, I appreciate you being with us.

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Speaker 2: Incredible reporting that you do in these incidents and to

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Speaker 2: and one of the best, honestly, Clay one of the

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Speaker 2: And that's not even something that I think she's you know,

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Speaker 2: She's a huge asset to this program. Clay, let's come

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Speaker 3: Psaki was supposed to be the star of MSNBC and

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Speaker 3: she was going to be the Rachel Maddow replacement. You

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Speaker 3: might be wondering how people are responding on the left

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Speaker 3: to what has happened to innocent eight and ten year

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Speaker 3: old kids killed in Minneapolis. Jensaki tweeted, when kids are

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Speaker 3: getting shot in the pews at a Catholic school mass

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Speaker 3: and your crime plan is to have National Guard put

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Speaker 3: mulch down around DC, maybe rethink your strategy.

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Speaker 2: She's a moron. I mean, I know she was the

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Speaker 2: Press secretary of but that means nothing. She's a moron

447
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Speaker 2: that that has nothing to do with anything. But what

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Speaker 2: what does trying to beautify Washington, d C? Have to

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Speaker 2: do with a left wing trans terrorist who probably watched

450
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Speaker 2: MSNBC a lot by the way, just throwing that out there,

451
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Speaker 2: killing a bunch of kids in a church like Clay

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Speaker 2: What how could someone's brain a functional and connect these

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Speaker 2: two things. I would say she should be ashamed of herself.

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Speaker 2: But she's an airhead. I mean, she's truly an imbecile.

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Speaker 3: A lot of you weighing in, we haven't taken any

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Speaker 3: reactions yet. Let's hit some of this QQ Joseph in

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Speaker 3: South Carolina. I think he's actually got a really interesting

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Speaker 3: and good take. This is ninety four point three in

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Speaker 3: South Carolina or news radio station there, Joseph, South Carolina.

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Speaker 9: I think a lot of his problem is that they

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Speaker 9: should do something about these doctors performing all this stuff

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Speaker 9: on these young kids. I know they take bath about

463
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Speaker 9: not hurting anybody or you know, and this and destroying

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Speaker 9: some little kids life form twelve or thirteen or fourteen

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Speaker 9: years old.

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Speaker 8: That's against they're oath.

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Speaker 9: I don't understand why they don't lose their license, you

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Speaker 9: know what is wrong.

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Speaker 1: With these people?

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Speaker 3: I think he hit on a really, really important story

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Speaker 3: that I believe is going to grow in significance over

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Speaker 3: the next decade plus. A lot of these people who

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Speaker 3: have gotten trans surgeries are still relatively young. I think

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Speaker 3: that there are going to be lawsuits that bankrupt some

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Speaker 3: of these doctors, because if you were twelve and you

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Speaker 3: had your body permanently sterilized by a doctor, you're gonna

477
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Speaker 3: suddenly wake up one day at twenty two. You're gonna

478
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Speaker 3: have come through puberty. You're gonna be a more knowledgeable adult,

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Speaker 3: and you're gonna sit back and say, I can't believe

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Speaker 3: what adults let me do to myself. The fact that

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Speaker 3: doctors were doing these tops and bottom surgeries that permanently

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Speaker 3: sterilized young kids when they are minors, I think you're

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Speaker 3: going to see juries are gonna get some of these cases.

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Speaker 3: They are going to bankrupt some of these doctors. I'm

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Speaker 3: just telling you where it's coming, and we're gonna go

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Speaker 3: back and we're gonna look at this. I really believe,

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Speaker 3: particularly as it pertains to young kids, as the equivalent

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Speaker 3: of when so many people were getting lobotomized, uh, and

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Speaker 3: that was considered to be just kind of standard operating

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Speaker 3: procedure for doctors. I think this is going to be

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Speaker 3: it's going to take financial pain raining down on some

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Speaker 3: of these doctors and hospitals that that made this a

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Speaker 3: part of their business. And I think it's actually a

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Speaker 3: really kind of forward thinking comment there.

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Speaker 2: Uh, you know, I think about in just in the context.

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Speaker 2: You know, I was basically a I was a political

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Speaker 2: science major in college. This will make sense in a

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Speaker 2: second everyone, But I was really in Islamic studies major

499
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Speaker 2: as much as or sort of Islamic history and politics.

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Speaker 2: I could have been a double major because of all

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Speaker 2: the classes. And I remember classes I took in both disciplines.

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Speaker 2: But I remember that when they passed under Zia in Pakistan,

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Speaker 2: they passed laws the Hodud ordinances. It's like right around

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Speaker 2: nineteen eighty they passed laws about hand amputation and so

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Speaker 2: you know, you can cut it like the Quranic punishment

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Speaker 2: cut off your hand for stealing. One of the problems

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Speaker 2: they ran into was that actual trained doctors were like,

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to do that to you know, to

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Speaker 2: their to their doctor's credit.

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Speaker 7: Ye.

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Speaker 2: And there's also there's been other instances, you know, the

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Speaker 2: Malaysian Medical Association, for example, under a similar in one

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Speaker 2: of the states in Malaysia refused, like the doctors refused

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Speaker 2: to do the amputations even though the state was mandating

515
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Speaker 2: that this would be a punishment they're like, sorry, we

516
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Speaker 2: don't you know, we're doctors.

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Speaker 1: We don't cut off healthy hands.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and this wasn't that long ago, everybody, right, this

519
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Speaker 2: is and roughly speaking in my it was in Clay's lifetime,

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Speaker 2: roughly speaking in my lifetime. And my point here is,

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Speaker 2: but doctors in this country are removing healthy breasts or

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Speaker 2: healthy genitals from people because of feelings.

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Speaker 1: Think about this.

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Speaker 2: The Pakistani doctors under a dictator who were told get

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Speaker 2: ready to remove people's hands for Kuranic punishment. We're like, sorry,

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Speaker 2: not doing it.

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Speaker 1: But in this.

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Speaker 2: Country you have major medical major medical hospitals are children's

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Speaker 2: hospitals who are saying, yeah, we're gonna give puberty blockers

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Speaker 2: and we're going to remove breasts in teenage girls. It's monstrous.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what else to say. This is monstrous stuff.

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Speaker 1: They should not be doing this. I agree. A couple

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Speaker 1: of callers.

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Speaker 3: By the way, let's start with Katie in southern California. Katie,

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Speaker 3: you say you just dropped your kids off at a

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Speaker 3: Catholic school this morning.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I did. Kay, It's a t K through eighth

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Speaker 10: grade school here in southern California. And after I heard

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Speaker 10: about it, and was getting ready for work and literally

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Speaker 10: called the security guard at our school and I said, dude,

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Speaker 10: put your head on a swivel. He already knew about it,

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Speaker 10: which I'm going to implore parents right now. You need

543
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Speaker 10: to get involved. And if you should know, if you

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Speaker 10: don't have a security guard at your school, you should

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Speaker 10: demand one is armed. They have a couple of them.

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Speaker 10: And the first thing I said he said, he actually

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Speaker 10: said to me, Katie, I know we did hear people

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Speaker 10: here because I see them. We're in southern California. We

549
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Speaker 10: have a homelestop because who have mental problem, mental health issues,

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Speaker 10: people going up and down the street. And He's like,

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Speaker 10: I know we've deterred people from coming in here. And

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Speaker 10: I can only say that it hits home. Those kids

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Speaker 10: were praying and for the mayor of Minneapolis to come

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Speaker 10: out and say things like this is not the time

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Speaker 10: for purs or whatever he said. I'm not going to

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Speaker 10: say what I said to myself. It was a cuts word.

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Speaker 10: He can go himself. But at the end of the day,

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Speaker 10: right now, I can assure you all the Catholics in

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Speaker 10: my kids school are praying because they know about it,

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Speaker 10: and any Christian around the world should be and that

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Speaker 10: is what you do. You pray more and this is

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Speaker 10: an act. I even told our security guard today, if

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Speaker 10: you need more resources, you let us know. We will

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Speaker 10: find the money. And I think more parents need to

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Speaker 10: get involved in knowing that. And you should know your community,

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Speaker 10: at a public school or a private school, and that

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Speaker 10: you demand that somebody is outside at least protecting because

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Speaker 10: that church more my kids go to to pray when

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Speaker 10: they have masks, is more fortified than the one probably

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Speaker 10: that was there today. And I doubt that they had

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Speaker 10: security guard because that person would have been dead in

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Speaker 10: about half a second.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for the call, Katie. I endorse everything that

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Speaker 3: she said. I said this right after the Covenant School shooting.

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Speaker 3: We have armed officers at my public school kids school.

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Speaker 3: We have armed officers at my older kids private school.

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Speaker 3: I want every school in America to have armed security

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Speaker 3: inside of it. I want your kids, my kids, everybody.

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Speaker 3: I think it's important buck what she just said. I

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Speaker 3: also think a lot of kids need to learn that

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Speaker 3: they can trust police officers, especially when they're young, that

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Speaker 3: police officers are their allies, not their enemies. I think

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Speaker 3: that having armed security at every school makes sense.

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Speaker 1: K to twelve public private, all of them.

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Speaker 3: I soundly endorse it, and if your school doesn't, I

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Speaker 3: would say it's probably worth having conversations about why they don't.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you could you could hire right now one

588
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Speaker 2: hundred thousand veterans and pay them one hundred thousand dollars

589
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Speaker 2: a year. You know, a nice salar. You know that's

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Speaker 2: it depends where they are. I mean, if you're in

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Speaker 2: a like Midwestern state, that's a really nice salary. If

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Speaker 2: you're in you know, some of the major cities, it's

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Speaker 2: a fine salary. Depends but it's a good living. Right

594
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Speaker 2: you're making six figures. It's a good living. And it

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Speaker 2: cost ten billion dollars. And now I know that's a

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Speaker 2: lot of money. But for our federal government, I mean

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Speaker 2: for the money that you're going to tell me what

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Speaker 2: we spend on public schools. That doesn't have anything to

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Speaker 2: do with direct safety of kids. Again, I want for

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Speaker 2: your kids same thing I want for my kids, public private.

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Speaker 2: I want everybody to have armed security. By the way,

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Speaker 2: she referenced the mayor of Minneapolis, Jacob frey Fry, I.

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Speaker 1: Knew it was going to be a sorry, go ahead,

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Speaker 1: go ahead.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was just gonna say we haven't played this

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Speaker 3: because I'm not surprised. It's the same guy who cried

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Speaker 3: and got on his knee and wept at the George

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Speaker 3: Floyd funeral. He said, now is not the time for prayer. Basically,

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Speaker 3: I think that's what she's referencing, and let's go ahead

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Speaker 3: and play it for you guys. I didn't want to

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Speaker 3: play it or early on because it's predictable, and also

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Speaker 3: I think it actually detracts from the legitimate things we're

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Speaker 3: talking about. Trying to pray for the innocent victims, the

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Speaker 3: four kids who had to potentially have surgery at the

615
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Speaker 3: Minneapolis Era Hospital. But this is Mayor Jacob frey Fry

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Speaker 3: right after the shooting.

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Speaker 11: Every one of us needs to be wrapping our arms

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Speaker 11: around these families, giving them every ounce that we can muster.

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Speaker 11: These were Minneapolis families, these were American families, and the

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Speaker 11: amount of pain that they are suffering right now is extraordinary.

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Speaker 11: And don't just say this is about thoughts and prayers

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Speaker 11: right now. These kids were literally praying. It was the

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Speaker 11: first week of school, they were in a church. These

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Speaker 11: are kids that should be learning with their friends. They

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Speaker 11: should be playing on the playground, they should be able

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Speaker 11: to go to school or church in peace without the

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Speaker 11: fear or risk of violence, and their parents should have

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Speaker 11: the same kind of assurance. These are the sort of

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Speaker 11: basic assurances every family should have every step of the day,

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Speaker 11: regardless of where they are in our country.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that's different than what I thought we were playing.

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Speaker 3: He basically said, as part of this discussion, your prayers

633
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Speaker 3: effectively don't matter, and that is what many people are

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Speaker 3: reacting to. And what you know, frankly, is the real

635
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Speaker 3: conversation here should be we've got a trans terrorist. How

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Speaker 3: do we stop this from ever happening again?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the mayor of Minneapolis is a gutlass

638
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Speaker 2: little weasel, just putting that out there. We've seen that

639
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Speaker 2: for a long time, no surprise. A lot of people

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Speaker 2: have been harmed, a lot of bad things have happened

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Speaker 2: because he's a coward who thinks that you know, singing

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Speaker 2: Kumbaya and everyone holding hands together and doing vigils for

643
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Speaker 2: social justice instead of allowing people to be safe, you know,

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Speaker 2: in their homes and and walking down the streets is important.

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Speaker 2: But I would just say this, Clay, I knew and

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Speaker 2: a lot of you knew this too. Look, we don't

647
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Speaker 2: want to do that thing here on the show of

648
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Speaker 2: throwing out guesses just on the gut feeling.

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Speaker 3: But if you have I can tell you this. I

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Speaker 3: texted set it off air. We set it off air.

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Speaker 2: We're like, hey, so we'll say it to each other

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Speaker 2: because I you know, we don't we don't want to

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Speaker 2: be we don't want to tell you information that we

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Speaker 2: have to correct. Ever, that's why we try to be

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Speaker 2: very precise as the breaking news is coming out. And

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Speaker 2: then if we're ever wrong, as you know, we'll code

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Speaker 2: rend ourselves on it and we'll come out.

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Speaker 8: You know.

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Speaker 1: I mean I got one wrong recently on the economy size.

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Speaker 2: I mean, things happened. I'm still sad about it. My

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Speaker 2: point is, Clay, if you had asked me. I texted

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Speaker 2: my family this morning. They said who do you think

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Speaker 2: this is? And or you know, who do you think

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Speaker 2: is behind this? As soon as I saw I was

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Speaker 2: a church, it's kids, I'm like, this is a left

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Speaker 2: wing Lune. This just sent them right away. It just

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Speaker 2: it just based on what happened here, left wing Luna

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Speaker 2: immediately went to Coventry. In my head and you and

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Speaker 2: I were talking, is that this looks like coven'ry looks

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Speaker 2: like almost a copycat to the Coventry shooting. And what

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Speaker 2: I can tell you is when the mayor came out

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Speaker 2: and he was, you know, rending garments and crying and

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Speaker 2: all emotional about it. I'm not saying that's not the

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Speaker 2: proper response. It is the proper response. However, if it

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Speaker 2: had been a situation of a shooting and it was

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Speaker 2: a white male who was in any way identifiable with

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Speaker 2: Trump or with you know, guns, militia, whatever and anything

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Speaker 2: that is right wing coded, he would have come out

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Speaker 2: sad and then transitioned right away to righteous indignation. Why

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Speaker 2: hasn't President Trump condemned it? You know, blah blah, you

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Speaker 2: know exactly, But he didn't. And he didn't because he

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Speaker 2: already knew that this was a Heshi situation and that's

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Speaker 2: what we were dealing with.

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Speaker 3: That's underd percent right. And a lot of you are

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Speaker 3: hearing all of this. MSNBC and CNN and the New

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Speaker 3: York Times and the Washington Post are going to mostly

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Speaker 3: not cover the trans terrorist angle to this shooting, and

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Speaker 3: if they can, I tell you what I said, I

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Speaker 3: think there's going to be actually coverage of it in

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Speaker 3: this they're not really here's what they're going to do.

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Speaker 3: Clay and any of you are curious about this, I

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Speaker 3: want you to, if you can stomach it, check out

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Speaker 3: like a Prime time just the opening monologues andemus.

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Speaker 1: They're going to cover.

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Speaker 2: This in a strictly news like, Okay, here's what happened, everybody,

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Speaker 2: here's what happened.

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Speaker 1: Here's what happened.

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Speaker 2: And then if there's converse, they're not really going to

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Speaker 2: do analysis of it, and then tomorrow the analysis will

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Speaker 2: be on these shows. We have to be on guard

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Speaker 2: for anti trans violence from the MAGA community. This is

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Speaker 2: what they do. That is very likely.

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Speaker 3: I also think the way they'll cover it is as criticism.

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Speaker 3: They'll say Trump supporters immediately addressed the trans terrorist connection here,

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Speaker 3: as if were the ones who are behaving in an

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Speaker 3: inappropriate fashion, and then you're right, it will lead to you.

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Speaker 3: But the trans community is actually always the victim, the

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Speaker 3: real victim.

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Speaker 1: The real victims.

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Speaker 2: And in the broader sense, they will say the real

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Speaker 2: victims of MAGA are the trans community, and you'll say,

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Speaker 2: the victims are the little children who are just shot

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Speaker 2: by this left wing psychopath who believes in all of

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Speaker 2: this left wing ideology, including his hatred of Donald Trump,

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Speaker 2: which is very explicit written on his gun, and the

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Speaker 2: I'm a terrorist thing, I think is a tip off

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Speaker 2: that he's a terrorist putting that out there too. All right, look,

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Speaker 2: this is no way to talk about this other than

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Speaker 2: We're joined now by our friend David Rutherford. He's a

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Speaker 2: former Navy seal and CIA contractor, a combat veteran, and

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Speaker 2: host of the David Rutherford Show podcast, which is on

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Speaker 2: the Clay and Buck network and is growing every single

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Speaker 2: you should be listening to. Dave Rutt as I call him, Rutt,

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Speaker 2: tell me let's start with this. You see this, we

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Speaker 2: know it's heartbreaking from a security and tactical perspective. This

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Speaker 2: guy comes into the guy. This guy comes in, he's

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Speaker 2: firing off rifle a few minutes there. Do you think

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Speaker 2: that our armed security presence at the church is the

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Speaker 2: only thing? I mean, how do you assess this in

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Speaker 2: terms of the security aspects of.

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Speaker 8: Well?

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Speaker 1: Buck?

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Speaker 8: Thanks once. First off, thank you to you and Clay

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Speaker 8: for having me on. My heart goes out to the families,

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Speaker 8: to the people who work at the church, and to

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Speaker 8: the police officers, everybody involved in this, people who work

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Speaker 8: at the hospitals, and the kids most especially. This is

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Speaker 8: absolutely preventable. The problem is is it requires a focused

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Speaker 8: and concerted effort by organizations that are soft targets, like churches,

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Speaker 8: like schools, and I think, you know, yes, if you

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Speaker 8: were to have an armed security guard at the front gate,

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Speaker 8: it would change things. I remember back after the shooting

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Speaker 8: down here in South Florida a few years back, I

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Speaker 8: went into my kids' school and I laid it out

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Speaker 8: for him and I said, here's your actions. You know, One,

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Speaker 8: you create a fortress, nobody can penetrate the perimeter, which

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Speaker 8: is incredibly expensive. Do you arm your teachers, your staff,

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Speaker 8: the people who work there. Or three, which requires a

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Speaker 8: tremendous amount of training. Or three you hired an arm

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Speaker 8: security guard, a former cop, a former military, someone that's

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Speaker 8: got a lot of training, understands, you know, control in

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Speaker 8: the different levels of threat and how to respond. And

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Speaker 8: they chose the third one. Put this wonderful guy Aubrey

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Speaker 8: out in front of the school and all the parents

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Speaker 8: felt great because the guy's an armed security guard at

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Speaker 8: the exterior of the school. So yeah, that's the way

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Speaker 8: you respond to the possibility of these types of things

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Speaker 8: because they're going to keep happening.

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Speaker 3: I agree with everything you just said. We had a

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Speaker 3: caller from southern California. I believe your name was Katie,

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Speaker 3: a mom who said, Hey, my kids go to Catholic

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Speaker 3: school and we've got armed security. My kids have gone

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Speaker 3: both to public school KA six and then they go

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Speaker 3: to private school seven to twelve, and we have armed

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Speaker 3: security at all of their schools.

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Speaker 1: Is it a no.

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Speaker 3: Brainer to you that as we look at all of

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Speaker 3: these situations, the reason schools are often attacked is because

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Speaker 3: they do not have In fact, we know with the

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Speaker 3: trans shooter, she actually staked out in Nashville the school

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Speaker 3: in advance to see what she needed to do to

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Speaker 3: get to those schools and chose a school that did

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Speaker 3: not have security. Isn't it just a no brainer in

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Speaker 3: all fifty states that we should have armed security at

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Speaker 3: every school.

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Speaker 8: Absolutely, Clay. I mean, now where we're at, whether you

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Speaker 8: go to UVOLDI, you go to Audrey Hale, or you

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Speaker 8: go to Devin Erickson, or you go to all these

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Speaker 8: Dylan Butler, all these shooters that are coming out, Yeah,

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Speaker 8: they're picking soft targets for reasons. I mean, I can't

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Speaker 8: even tell you how many times where we would do

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Speaker 8: an assessment of a target that we were gonna go

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Speaker 8: hit or take down or do a snatch. And when

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Speaker 8: we did the assessment after you know, the we did

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Speaker 8: a reconnaissance on on the you know, the the place

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Speaker 8: we were going to hit, and we saw, oh god,

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Speaker 8: there's two dudes there. They've got all day case, they

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Speaker 8: don't have kids. I mean, it's like, oh, this is incredible. Well,

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Speaker 8: it's the same thing that these these you know, demented,

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Speaker 8: mentally unstable human beings are looking for. They're looking for

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Speaker 8: soft targets. So it's what it should be. The most

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Speaker 8: you know, fundamental thing that we predect above all else

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Speaker 8: in this world, and that's our children. So yeah, one

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Speaker 8: hundred percent we should have armed guards.

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Speaker 2: Speaking to David Rutherford, host of The David Rutherford Show

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Speaker 2: on the klan Buck podcast Network, hope you have all

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Speaker 2: had a chance to listen. If you haven't, please go

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Speaker 2: check it out. You can listen wherever you get your uh,

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Speaker 2: wherever you get your podcast. The iHeart app is the

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Speaker 2: best place to start. iHeartRadio app. And David, you know

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Speaker 2: you're all so, I mean, I know rud very well.

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Speaker 2: Rubb was a combat medic, so you understand and have

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Speaker 2: seen gunshot wounds in real life and had to deal

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Speaker 2: with them. What can you tell us? I mean, I

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Speaker 2: don't know if you heard, Dave. We played earlier in

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Speaker 2: the show one of a representative from the hospital who

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Speaker 2: was saying, we've got four who are in critical and

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Speaker 2: then we've got a number of others who have been

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Speaker 2: treated in the hospital, but they are state sorry, how

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Speaker 2: many plays seven? Seven who are treated but stable in

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Speaker 2: the hospital. So we those the seven that are stable, right,

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Speaker 2: that's looking good. Those look like kids, are adults, They're

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Speaker 2: going to be okay. The four who are critical is

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Speaker 2: the primary at this point? Is is it just they've

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Speaker 2: stopped the bleeding? Is is it organ damage and repair

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Speaker 2: that these doctors are working against the clock to do,

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Speaker 2: Like what has to happen here that we can get

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Speaker 2: the best possible news out of this hospital that there

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Speaker 2: are no more fatalities.

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Speaker 8: I think you know the challenges. And I watched the

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Speaker 8: video that was on YouTube before they pulled it. Uh,

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Speaker 8: there's a bunch of people posting it right now. So

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Speaker 8: I went through and he he has a vivid breakdown

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Speaker 8: of the weapons systems that he brought into it. You know,

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Speaker 8: he had an ar platform, a shotgun, he had a

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Speaker 8: night what looked like a nine mil in a thirty

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Speaker 8: eight that he said he was going to use for

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Speaker 8: his for his own death if that, if it came

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Speaker 8: to that. So, I mean when you look at every

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Speaker 8: one of those calibers, uh, they're all catastrophic injuries if

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Speaker 8: you hit uh in obviously any any vityls yeah, yeah,

869
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Speaker 8: any vitals so like formoral break, your break, the old arteries,

870
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Speaker 8: anything like that. But you also have if you have

871
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 8: a like an open sucking chess wound, and you know,

872
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 8: a penetration penetrating trauma to the thoracic cavity, you know.

873
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:55,319
Speaker 8: And the challenge is is you have first responders who

874
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:58,719
Speaker 8: show up who don't have any medical training. So it

875
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Speaker 8: just being able to tain bleeding out like direct pressure,

876
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:07,880
Speaker 8: uh probably you know, if if cops are first responders,

877
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:11,920
Speaker 8: thank god, they'll have tourniquits on their kits. And then

878
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Speaker 8: but you know, the other ones that are difficult are

879
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 8: that penetrating trauma to the chest because then all of

880
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:20,440
Speaker 8: a sudden you can go into a tension new mohemo

881
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 8: thorax where that you know that your lung collapses from

882
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 8: you know, the thoracic capity filling with blood. And the

883
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:34,479
Speaker 8: problem with those is typically most patients adults, adult men

884
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 8: that I've seen have suffered from those injuries. They they

885
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 8: can resist, but kids, kids crash fast, especially with these

886
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 8: types of catastrophic injuries. So that's the real concern I

887
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:50,400
Speaker 8: would have as a combat medic. Shut showing up is one, absolutely,

888
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 8: you know, triaging who has the worst injuries, stopping blood

889
00:48:55,160 --> 00:49:00,359
Speaker 8: and then really fixating on on airway right, making sure

890
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 8: they're perfusing oxygen in the best possible way. But yeah,

891
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 8: you know, regardless.

892
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:07,359
Speaker 2: So so this but the seven who are stable, rut,

893
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 2: they're going to be okay. It's those four that we're

894
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 2: praying for who are still critical.

895
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 8: Right, maybe they could have they could have they could

896
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:18,399
Speaker 8: you know, let's say it it grazed their liver or

897
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:23,279
Speaker 8: their kidneys or their stomach. You know, post infection from

898
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Speaker 8: operations is a significance.

899
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 2: Okay, So there's additional So there's additional concern. So we

900
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 2: got to have prayers up for every single person who's

901
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 2: been treated in that hospital meeting that no one's no

902
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 2: one's out of the woods totally yet.

903
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:35,800
Speaker 1: For me, also, it's.

904
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Speaker 8: Like you're you're you're only okay when you're okay, right,

905
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:44,760
Speaker 8: Because the nature of gunshot injuries can can is really

906
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:46,920
Speaker 8: difficult to know and tell you're all the way through

907
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:48,400
Speaker 8: and you're through recovery.

908
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 3: A couple of other details that are coming out. Let

909
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:54,319
Speaker 3: me hit you guys with this. It's looking more and

910
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 3: more like a Covenant school shooting situation. Reports that this

911
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:03,800
Speaker 3: shooter that his mom was a former employee at the school,

912
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:08,919
Speaker 3: so there was a connection potentially from this transhooter, as

913
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 3: the prior transhooter also had a connection to the religious

914
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 3: school that she shot up. Appears this guy may have

915
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:18,279
Speaker 3: also done it, and we mentioned this before, but I

916
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 3: just want to reiterate. Court documents show that when this

917
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 3: person was seventeen years old, he legally changed his name

918
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 3: from male to female and began to identify as a woman,

919
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 3: so as a minor for people out there, as a miner,

920
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:39,320
Speaker 3: this individual who went on to shoot up the school

921
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:44,880
Speaker 3: was deciding to identify as a different as a different gender.

922
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 3: So this was happening again in youth and person I

923
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 3: think is twenty two years old. Now what should we do?

924
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 3: Rother I, Bucke and I both are of the opinion,

925
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 3: and I understand we're probably going to get attacked to

926
00:50:57,640 --> 00:50:59,719
Speaker 3: the high heavens for this, But I think Buck said

927
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 3: it well, where if someone has bulimia, you don't tell

928
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:05,239
Speaker 3: them they look great and they should continue to not

929
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 3: eat if.

930
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:09,719
Speaker 2: You are that's area bolinia is throwing up. But yes, similarly, okay.

931
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:12,800
Speaker 3: I'm thankfully not an expert in the in the eating

932
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 3: disorder universe, but you don't reinforce the health condition and

933
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:22,359
Speaker 3: the mental illness when you say, hey, yes, you are

934
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 3: an actual girl or you're an actual boy. Aren't we

935
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 3: just creating in conjunction with all of these drugs that

936
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:32,360
Speaker 3: were pumping into people's bodies during this a recipe for

937
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:33,800
Speaker 3: disaster after disaster?

938
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Speaker 1: One percent.

939
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:40,920
Speaker 8: Absolutely. I think what we've categorically proven over the last

940
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:45,799
Speaker 8: you know, all the way back to Columbine, is that many, many, many,

941
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:49,800
Speaker 8: many children, thousands and thousands, tens of thousands of children

942
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 8: are being medicated at early ages right much less you know,

943
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 8: the hormone blockers and the stuff that's going on with

944
00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 8: that type of madness out there for these young kids.

945
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:06,719
Speaker 8: What's interesting is when I read the pages from his manifesto,

946
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 8: he was very complimentary to his parents. You didn't do

947
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:14,760
Speaker 8: anything wrong. This is just me, you know. He even

948
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:17,840
Speaker 8: told his siblings, I'm sorry what I'm going to do

949
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:22,000
Speaker 8: to your life, you know. But the Keia, you know,

950
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:26,799
Speaker 8: is the last piece on that that that manifesto for me,

951
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:30,719
Speaker 8: and it says, you know, PPS, he does a ps

952
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:33,440
Speaker 8: to his siblings, get you know, get over the argument

953
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:35,880
Speaker 8: with your mom and you. Then he goes to PPS

954
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:39,440
Speaker 8: and he goes I wouldn't recommend any of you to

955
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 8: read my journals, Comma unless you really want to Comma,

956
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:50,400
Speaker 8: but be warned so you know, there is a mental

957
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 8: health reality to this individual that goes way before twenty seventeen.

958
00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:01,480
Speaker 8: And I'm sure if we if if a psychologist or

959
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:05,359
Speaker 8: a forensic psychologist or whoever criminal psychologist goes and we

960
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 8: look at the profile of these journals and these other manifestos,

961
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:14,920
Speaker 8: you see a fundamentally broken human being that no longer

962
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:19,279
Speaker 8: is able to concoct a reason for living. And he

963
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 8: actually says this in the earlier pages of that, I

964
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:25,760
Speaker 8: hate how painful life is. I don't find a reason

965
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:28,239
Speaker 8: for shooting. And then when you watch the video of

966
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:33,239
Speaker 8: him walking around, it is it's homicidal in nature, right,

967
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:37,719
Speaker 8: there's an underlying concurrent like there's pleasure that he's going

968
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:41,279
Speaker 8: to receive from this final act of his you know,

969
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:43,760
Speaker 8: very problematic and confused life.

970
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 2: David Rutherford, go everyone check out the David Rutherford podcast.

971
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:52,319
Speaker 2: Former Navy seal and a good friend of ours, Dave Rutt,

972
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:53,279
Speaker 2: appreciate you being with us.

973
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:54,359
Speaker 1: Man. We'll talk to you again soon.

974
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:56,440
Speaker 8: Thank you, God bless you.

975
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Speaker 1: Jents you too.

976
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:02,480
Speaker 2: Look, it wasn't even a year ago that there was

977
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:05,279
Speaker 2: a dementia puppet in the White House who had given

978
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:08,800
Speaker 2: up when it comes to the AI race and figured

979
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Speaker 2: we'll let other people take the lead. Well, thankfully, the

980
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:14,560
Speaker 2: Trump administration has taken the stance that the AI race

981
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:17,920
Speaker 2: is critical to our future. Trump Jesus is a crucial

982
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:20,440
Speaker 2: technology for Americans, for businesses in this country, for our

983
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:23,680
Speaker 2: defense capabilities, all of it. And he has identified a

984
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:26,360
Speaker 2: White House AI and cryptos are as you know, to

985
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:31,240
Speaker 2: be very involved in this race. And there's this period

986
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Speaker 2: right now we're in. We're developing AI technology is going

987
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 2: to determine the future of America. I'm calling this the

988
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Speaker 2: Manhattan Project too, because it's necessary for us to take

989
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Speaker 2: a lead now in the AI arms race. And this

990
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991
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992
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