WEBVTT - Galaxy Quest: Everything You Didn't Know 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:07.320 Too Much Information is a production of iHeartRadio. 0:00:09.280 --> 0:00:12.440 Hello everyone, and welcome to Too Much Information, the show 0:00:12.480 --> 0:00:14.440 that brings you the secret histories and the little known, 0:00:14.560 --> 0:00:18.440 fascinating facts and figures behind your favorite movies, music, TV 0:00:18.520 --> 0:00:21.919 shows and more. We are your two has been sci 0:00:21.960 --> 0:00:24.560 fi stars of years gone by. Your phaser is set 0:00:24.600 --> 0:00:26.800 to stunt. I don't think we can actually say that. 0:00:26.880 --> 0:00:30.319 Oh, legally, yes, for legal reasons, you're not really Trek. 0:00:30.360 --> 0:00:32.720 He's telling you about a not really Star Trek movie. 0:00:33.159 --> 0:00:35.800 I'm Alex Cycle and I'm Jordan run the talk. 0:00:36.040 --> 0:00:38.840 Wow, you put a lot into that. Yeah, that's good, 0:00:39.159 --> 0:00:39.640 and Jordan. 0:00:39.760 --> 0:00:41.360 Today we're taking a look at one of the most 0:00:41.440 --> 0:00:45.280 adored parodies, which may be a thing of the past 0:00:45.760 --> 0:00:49.320 in recent memory, unaffectionate spoofing of Star Trek that even 0:00:49.320 --> 0:00:52.000 its famously obsessed fans gave a pass to based on 0:00:52.040 --> 0:00:56.000 its charms. That's right, We're talking about Galaxy Quest, the 0:00:56.040 --> 0:00:58.520 little sci fi comedy that could in the year of 0:00:58.600 --> 0:00:59.480 nineteen ninety nine. 0:01:00.200 --> 0:01:02.920 So that's my first question, Jordan. Do we have Hollywood 0:01:02.920 --> 0:01:04.600 parodies anymore? Or do they have? 0:01:04.680 --> 0:01:09.440 They just ceeded that completely to like influencers and YouTube people. 0:01:09.280 --> 0:01:14.600 And Instagram people. Yeah, I can't think of a really solid, 0:01:14.760 --> 0:01:19.040 well done parody, certainly in the last like ten years. 0:01:19.560 --> 0:01:21.080 I mean, I think it would be like the Coen 0:01:21.160 --> 0:01:25.480 Brothers man, like Hail Caesar or oh yeah, that's like 0:01:25.640 --> 0:01:27.880 honestly one of the most recent ones I can think of. 0:01:28.040 --> 0:01:30.400 But it's not that's that's not a parody, you know, 0:01:30.480 --> 0:01:33.240 that's like a that's just set in that world. 0:01:33.440 --> 0:01:36.000 It's not like explicitly taking aim at one thing. I 0:01:36.000 --> 0:01:38.959 don't think it's it's sort of about the more general 0:01:38.959 --> 0:01:42.600 studio system. I don't know, man, that is a difficult question. Here. 0:01:42.680 --> 0:01:46.600 There's a there's a Wikipedia landing page for parody films 0:01:46.640 --> 0:01:51.200 by decade twenty. I'm in the twenty tens now. I 0:01:51.360 --> 0:01:54.960 see nothing that I recognize on here at all. They're 0:01:54.960 --> 0:01:59.520 all like really low budget, yeah, very obvious. Like instead 0:01:59.520 --> 0:02:02.880 of the Hunger Games, there's the Starving Games, ah My 0:02:03.280 --> 0:02:07.120 Brother Borat and Scary Movie five. Oh yeah, I mean, 0:02:07.200 --> 0:02:08.080 I guess I would. 0:02:08.160 --> 0:02:11.799 I think the last guys standing are probably the Zucker Brothers, right, 0:02:12.000 --> 0:02:14.040 that guys who did not another teen movie and stuff. 0:02:14.040 --> 0:02:16.480 And I did know that, I did know that the 0:02:16.560 --> 0:02:21.040 Wayans have Scary Movie five coming out but I don't know, man. 0:02:21.160 --> 0:02:23.560 I got nothing, I think. I mean, if we were 0:02:23.600 --> 0:02:27.000 talking about this earlier too, they don't green light movies 0:02:27.040 --> 0:02:31.399 of this size anymore, this mid size quality movie. It's 0:02:31.400 --> 0:02:36.840 either huge or like indie adjacent. Yeah, exactly. And you 0:02:36.880 --> 0:02:40.160 know this one is just done with such a sweet, 0:02:40.520 --> 0:02:44.520 cute little eye. You know, it's just like it's funny. 0:02:44.560 --> 0:02:47.560 I remember I interviewed Jason Siegel once for the Muppet 0:02:47.560 --> 0:02:51.480 movie that he did, and he got like audibly choked 0:02:51.560 --> 0:02:54.720 up talking about the Muppets because he was like, you. 0:02:54.639 --> 0:02:58.200 Know, the Muppets are funny, but they're never mean. 0:02:59.320 --> 0:03:02.079 Yeahah, well miss Piggy, well yeah, but he was like, 0:03:02.120 --> 0:03:04.200 you know, they don't punch down, they're not cruel. 0:03:04.320 --> 0:03:07.200 And I think like the key to this movie's success, 0:03:07.480 --> 0:03:11.440 you know, Sorry, just the image of you talking with 0:03:11.520 --> 0:03:14.600 probably one of maybe two dozen people on the planet 0:03:14.600 --> 0:03:18.320 who was more earnest than me about the Muppets. Is 0:03:18.360 --> 0:03:20.000 I hope there's a tape of this. I would really 0:03:20.000 --> 0:03:21.000 like to see. Is this for people? 0:03:21.560 --> 0:03:23.600 Uh no, this was from my first shows for like 0:03:23.880 --> 0:03:28.240 Nerve dot com. Oh yeah, twelve. Yeah, he was really sweet. 0:03:28.280 --> 0:03:30.160 He signed off the phone call back, going all right, 0:03:30.240 --> 0:03:34.320 talk to you later. No, we won't, but how sweet 0:03:34.320 --> 0:03:35.119 of you to say. 0:03:38.360 --> 0:03:39.120 Yeah, So I didn't. 0:03:39.160 --> 0:03:41.760 You know, I didn't see this movie until years later, 0:03:42.000 --> 0:03:44.400 and I think that's what happened to it on a 0:03:44.400 --> 0:03:46.880 broader scale, is exactly why I didn't see it. Yeah, 0:03:46.920 --> 0:03:50.240 in nineteen ninety nine, as you'll remember, was Star Wars 0:03:50.320 --> 0:03:53.280 Episode one, The Matrix, the Mummy and the Sixth Sense. 0:03:54.080 --> 0:03:54.320 Uh. 0:03:54.360 --> 0:03:56.200 And then even by the time that we were in 0:03:57.280 --> 0:04:00.520 Christmas when this movie opened, it wash it up against 0:04:00.560 --> 0:04:03.560 the talented mister Ripley. It went up three days after 0:04:03.600 --> 0:04:06.360 any given Sunday Man on the Moon and Stuart Little 0:04:06.720 --> 0:04:09.880 and stut yes of course and Stuart Little and girl interrupted. 0:04:09.920 --> 0:04:12.520 So it's just like, uh, yeah, you know, I remember 0:04:12.520 --> 0:04:16.880 thinking after that year, of all those incredible sci fi properties, 0:04:17.240 --> 0:04:19.920 I remember thinking it looked dumb. And I remember being 0:04:20.000 --> 0:04:22.600 like that as a child, like being offended by it. 0:04:23.240 --> 0:04:26.360 How dare I know? It's like I'm twelve, but yeah, 0:04:26.440 --> 0:04:29.719 I could see that You're just a movie. I was 0:04:30.000 --> 0:04:33.160 never a sci fi guy, sorry, a Star Trek guy, 0:04:33.200 --> 0:04:36.640 I should say. I was so firmly in the Star 0:04:36.680 --> 0:04:37.359 Wars camp. 0:04:37.600 --> 0:04:41.919 And you know, I as years gone by, it have 0:04:42.000 --> 0:04:44.480 I become more of a Star Trek guy. No, just 0:04:45.480 --> 0:04:48.800 not in any way. But I still love that this 0:04:48.920 --> 0:04:53.680 movie is so lovingly aimed towards them, and also like 0:04:53.760 --> 0:04:57.960 an astonishingly other wide selection of other sci fi properties. 0:04:57.960 --> 0:05:00.359 As we'll get to, I think we we both have 0:05:00.400 --> 0:05:02.880 a soft spot for trekies, because even though we are 0:05:02.960 --> 0:05:05.359 not trekies, I think the people near and dear to 0:05:05.440 --> 0:05:07.320 us are. I know, your dear friend, David Long, friend 0:05:07.360 --> 0:05:10.600 of the Pod, David Long is a treky. My father 0:05:10.920 --> 0:05:16.480 actually is, which does not fit with his his kind 0:05:16.520 --> 0:05:19.480 of say it. We grew up in like central Pennsylvania. 0:05:19.839 --> 0:05:24.440 He hunted fishes, an Emerson type. He built the house 0:05:24.520 --> 0:05:26.440 that I'm in right now, let me put it that 0:05:26.480 --> 0:05:28.800 way himself. And I just I know that that's not 0:05:29.160 --> 0:05:32.359 mutually exclusive to enjoying Star Trek, but just it doesn't 0:05:32.360 --> 0:05:33.039 fit for me. 0:05:33.200 --> 0:05:35.279 Well, I mean, as I've tunneled ever deeper into my 0:05:35.279 --> 0:05:37.600 own niche interest as a way to block the howling 0:05:37.640 --> 0:05:39.960 screams of a world in decay. 0:05:40.839 --> 0:05:41.840 Your own insecurities. 0:05:42.160 --> 0:05:47.680 Yes, well done, Yes, and so I understand the Trekkies 0:05:47.720 --> 0:05:48.120 more than. 0:05:48.040 --> 0:05:49.120 Ever I do too. 0:05:49.200 --> 0:05:53.080 Actually, Yeah, but it's it's just a very and you 0:05:53.080 --> 0:05:54.520 know I don't use this adjective. 0:05:54.640 --> 0:05:58.080 It's just a very sweet film. Yeah, I agree. I 0:05:58.240 --> 0:06:01.120 hadn't seen it in many, many years, probably in college, 0:06:01.120 --> 0:06:04.039 so maybe like six seven years after it came out. Yeah, exactly, 0:06:04.200 --> 0:06:07.360 charmed by it and promptly forgot about it and then 0:06:07.760 --> 0:06:11.719 started rewatching it for this and just very well done. 0:06:11.920 --> 0:06:16.120 Yeah, I mean shot on film, you know, the sets 0:06:16.160 --> 0:06:19.520 are real or on location. It's just all this and 0:06:19.560 --> 0:06:23.400 it's really interesting too, because like you know, we were 0:06:23.400 --> 0:06:26.520 watching it and it just kept being like that's real, 0:06:26.800 --> 0:06:30.760 Like that's makeup, like the villain is Like you look 0:06:30.800 --> 0:06:32.760 at it and it's like that was sort of like 0:06:32.800 --> 0:06:35.960 the apex of practical effects, you know, and so you 0:06:36.040 --> 0:06:38.080 look at some of this stuff and you're like that's 0:06:38.120 --> 0:06:41.680 not twenty twenty five CG. And you're like, no, that's 0:06:41.760 --> 0:06:46.680 just rubber and goo. But it's like, yeah, you know, 0:06:46.720 --> 0:06:49.960 it's Stan Winston's ILM. It's all these people, and it's 0:06:49.960 --> 0:06:53.720 also just like I think there's like a real affection 0:06:53.960 --> 0:06:56.679 in it. And that's what everybody in the ensemble cast 0:06:56.760 --> 0:06:59.120 says that they were all just like, yeah, we just 0:06:59.160 --> 0:07:00.760 had a fun time the sweet movie. 0:07:00.760 --> 0:07:02.880 Like we all like we all you know except for 0:07:02.880 --> 0:07:05.920 Tim Allen. Oh so they were bonded against Tim Allen's 0:07:07.200 --> 0:07:09.320 You have to have a villain in any kind of 0:07:09.320 --> 0:07:12.640 social dynamic because that brings everybody else together. It's true, 0:07:13.040 --> 0:07:16.160 It's very true. Well that's my segue. 0:07:16.480 --> 0:07:18.840 So from the amazing ensemble cast of the film, like 0:07:18.920 --> 0:07:22.880 Tim Allen, who sucks, who's not dead and in hell yet? 0:07:23.160 --> 0:07:27.000 No? Do you think the cartels are going to get him? 0:07:27.280 --> 0:07:30.120 That would be the most incredible long game ever, is 0:07:30.120 --> 0:07:33.080 that he's like invited to some event to be honored 0:07:33.200 --> 0:07:36.320 and he shows up and it's just like a warehouse. Yeah, 0:07:36.320 --> 0:07:40.040 it's Joe Pesci seeing Good Fellows, comes in and he's like, 0:07:40.160 --> 0:07:46.360 oh he shut back. Then Matt Damon coming in at 0:07:46.400 --> 0:07:49.920 the end of the Department. Yeah, all right, sorry r 0:07:50.000 --> 0:07:53.920 O spoiler sorry. Oh yeah, yeah, spoilers for that one. 0:07:54.720 --> 0:07:56.080 See The Departed Idiots. 0:07:56.240 --> 0:07:59.440 Yeah, to the astounding amount of sci fi references in 0:07:59.520 --> 0:08:03.040 riffs into every nook and cranny, to the sad studio 0:08:03.080 --> 0:08:06.480 meddling and mismarketing the film suffered from upon its release, 0:08:06.720 --> 0:08:10.280 to the reactions of Trekky's including William Shatner, who sucks. 0:08:10.800 --> 0:08:20.280 Here's everything you didn't know about Galaxy Quest. The story 0:08:20.280 --> 0:08:22.720 of Galaxy Quest begins with a writer named David Howard, 0:08:22.800 --> 0:08:25.040 a playwright who moved to LA to try and break 0:08:25.040 --> 0:08:28.840 into the movies. It was much more difficult than I anticipated, 0:08:28.880 --> 0:08:31.520 Howard and told IGN in twenty twelve. One of my 0:08:31.560 --> 0:08:33.559 professors said that when you look at a play, it's 0:08:33.559 --> 0:08:36.440 seventy five percent verbal and twenty five percent visual. 0:08:36.840 --> 0:08:39.559 In a film that's inverted, I think there's a lot 0:08:39.559 --> 0:08:42.600 of truth to that. Yeah, that's a hard truth I learned, 0:08:42.640 --> 0:08:45.680 and that's why I generally stuck the prose writing. 0:08:46.760 --> 0:08:48.959 So while working in the sales department at a big 0:08:48.960 --> 0:08:51.960 telecommunications company, Howard had a lot of time on his hands. 0:08:52.360 --> 0:08:53.880 They spent much of it working on a script that 0:08:53.880 --> 0:08:56.520 he'd had an idea for. While seeing an Imax movie 0:08:56.559 --> 0:09:01.080 called Americans in Space narrated by Leonard Nimoy, he said, 0:09:01.080 --> 0:09:03.120 the voiceover for this trailer was Leonard Neniemoy, and it 0:09:03.120 --> 0:09:05.640 took me a few minutes to recognize his voice. Then 0:09:05.640 --> 0:09:08.720 it just struck me, Oh, that poor guy. I could 0:09:08.720 --> 0:09:11.640 see these marketing guys putting this together, saying, who who 0:09:11.679 --> 0:09:13.640 could we get to do this? Oh, let's get William 0:09:13.679 --> 0:09:15.839 Shatner oh no, no, he's out of the country. Who 0:09:15.920 --> 0:09:18.680 else is there? Let's get Leonardie Mooy. You know, the 0:09:18.720 --> 0:09:20.760 idea of being trapped in that world struck me as 0:09:20.760 --> 0:09:22.200 something potentially very funny. 0:09:22.760 --> 0:09:26.760 This is really weird because yesterday I was interviewing Mickey 0:09:26.800 --> 0:09:30.360 Dolan's of the Monkeys as One Does, and he talked 0:09:30.360 --> 0:09:32.800 about feeling like completely just out of the blue. He 0:09:32.880 --> 0:09:35.600 talked about feeling a real kinship with Leonard Nimoy as 0:09:35.640 --> 0:09:39.680 another guy who became defined by this one role. But 0:09:39.720 --> 0:09:42.640 he felt really bad for Niemoy because Neimo was this 0:09:42.760 --> 0:09:45.360 like classically trained actor who'd been in like Richard the 0:09:45.400 --> 0:09:47.240 Third or something. I mean, I think that that joke 0:09:47.320 --> 0:09:50.040 that Alan the Workman one, well, oh yeah, says is 0:09:50.040 --> 0:09:53.080 and this was like based on Leonardnimoy. He was a 0:09:53.160 --> 0:09:55.880 Shakespeare actor, and then he just became Oh, it's the 0:09:55.920 --> 0:09:59.800 your guy, it's spuck, yeah, do the thing with your hand, yeah. Exactly. 0:10:00.640 --> 0:10:03.600 Mickey had a better, you know, more of a generous 0:10:03.640 --> 0:10:05.640 read on it in terms of his own career, because 0:10:05.679 --> 0:10:08.400 he was like, yeah, I was in a show before 0:10:08.440 --> 0:10:09.959 that where I had to write an elephant as a 0:10:10.040 --> 0:10:12.520 kid called Circus Boy. So this was like, at least 0:10:12.520 --> 0:10:14.679 I got to play a rock star, and that's that's cool. 0:10:15.200 --> 0:10:16.640 Do you know that he tried out to be the 0:10:16.679 --> 0:10:21.240 Fawns in the seventies? Too short? No, he's too tall. Apparently. 0:10:21.240 --> 0:10:24.000 It's so funny. I mean, Henry Winkler is like tiny. Yeah, 0:10:24.040 --> 0:10:26.800 I know. Winkler was extremely short, and that's why he 0:10:26.840 --> 0:10:29.280 missed out on He's apparently too tall compared to the 0:10:29.320 --> 0:10:31.840 other cast members. Do you know that the Livelong and 0:10:31.840 --> 0:10:35.440 Prosper fingers is like a Jewish thing? No? 0:10:36.559 --> 0:10:39.600 Yeah, he grew up in actually in Boston by that 0:10:39.720 --> 0:10:42.560 I didn't know, Yeah, in like Italian and Jewish neighborhood. 0:10:43.200 --> 0:10:49.200 And yes, he based it on a blessing performed and 0:10:49.240 --> 0:10:52.560 I cannot read this in Hebrew obviously, but it's very 0:10:52.600 --> 0:10:55.840 funny because it's on the cover of a Godspeed You 0:10:55.880 --> 0:10:59.920 Black Emperor record, because some of those guys are Jewish. 0:11:00.040 --> 0:11:00.240 Yeah. 0:11:00.240 --> 0:11:01.400 I always just thought that was funny. I was like, 0:11:01.400 --> 0:11:03.280 why are they doing the Livelong and Prosper thing? And 0:11:03.280 --> 0:11:06.000 then I looked it up and it is indeed, it 0:11:06.040 --> 0:11:07.520 is indeed a Jewish blessing. 0:11:08.360 --> 0:11:09.920 Seeing you do it with two hands, it kind of 0:11:09.960 --> 0:11:12.720 looks more natural as a blessing. Yeah, it looks cool. 0:11:12.840 --> 0:11:15.440 It looks really cool. So sh at that angle. Don't 0:11:15.440 --> 0:11:17.120 I look cool? It's doing that? 0:11:19.120 --> 0:11:21.880 So, screenwriter Howard continued, I just started playing with the 0:11:21.920 --> 0:11:23.880 idea of them being in this world, and all of 0:11:23.920 --> 0:11:26.880 a sudden, real aliens shown up. That was a script 0:11:26.880 --> 0:11:29.040 that in a lot of ways just wrote itself because 0:11:29.080 --> 0:11:31.440 it just seems so evident once the idea was there. 0:11:31.679 --> 0:11:34.240 We will learn later the idea had already been there. 0:11:35.440 --> 0:11:38.280 The loose plot of what was then called Captain Starshine 0:11:38.360 --> 0:11:41.439 was in place from the start. Aliens have mistakenly received 0:11:41.480 --> 0:11:45.240 broadcast the historical documents of an old sci fi show 0:11:46.480 --> 0:11:49.320 and believe them to be real. I forgot how damn 0:11:49.400 --> 0:11:52.360 funny and Rico COLUMTONI is in this movie with all 0:11:52.360 --> 0:11:52.800 of those. 0:11:52.640 --> 0:11:53.840 Little vocal mannerisms. 0:11:55.400 --> 0:11:57.440 Contact the actors from the series and enlisting them to 0:11:57.440 --> 0:12:01.160 help them battle their foes. Howard continued to people ask 0:12:01.200 --> 0:12:02.400 me if I'm a Treky, and I would say that 0:12:02.440 --> 0:12:05.320 I'm a Treky once removed. I love Star Trek, and 0:12:05.320 --> 0:12:07.600 I really love Next Generation. I had a buddy who 0:12:07.600 --> 0:12:09.320 wanted to write an episode of it once, and we 0:12:09.360 --> 0:12:11.599 wrote this episode together that never went anywhere, but I 0:12:11.640 --> 0:12:12.559 got really hooked on it. 0:12:13.040 --> 0:12:15.840 Yeah, Next Gen. Of all the Star Trek installments, that 0:12:15.960 --> 0:12:18.560 was the one that probably I was exposed to with 0:12:18.559 --> 0:12:19.840 the most around the house because I was on my 0:12:19.880 --> 0:12:21.480 dad watch when I was a little kid. But yeah, 0:12:21.600 --> 0:12:23.720 Next Gen I have a soft spot for. Is that 0:12:23.720 --> 0:12:28.880 a violence? Yeah, that's probably true. Yeah, diplomacy. Where's the 0:12:28.880 --> 0:12:31.400 fun in that? I just realized reading this that I 0:12:31.480 --> 0:12:35.079 accidentally plagiarized the entire plot of this movie for one 0:12:35.080 --> 0:12:37.439 that I wanted to do, which was basically like I 0:12:37.520 --> 0:12:40.120 used to pitch it as like a reverse contact, but 0:12:40.320 --> 0:12:43.640 like told from the alien's perspective, where there's an alien 0:12:43.960 --> 0:12:47.400 on a planet not unlike Earth, and they're scanning radio 0:12:47.440 --> 0:12:49.800 bands looking for signs of life in the universe, and 0:12:49.840 --> 0:12:52.520 then they pick up a radio broadcast from Earth of 0:12:52.520 --> 0:12:55.200 accounting Crow's song, and so they go to Earth and 0:12:55.240 --> 0:12:57.599 try to commune with Adam Durretz. And that was a 0:12:57.600 --> 0:12:59.000 whole I wanted to write it for my friend Chris 0:12:59.000 --> 0:13:01.800 Fleming is a comedian and to give him like his 0:13:01.800 --> 0:13:04.920 his Morc role. He loves Robin Williams, and like I thought, okay, 0:13:04.960 --> 0:13:07.520 he could be like the weird sort of humanoid like 0:13:07.600 --> 0:13:11.120 alien going to Earth in search of Adam Durretz. This 0:13:11.240 --> 0:13:17.520 is all verbal copyright. By the way, I really threw 0:13:17.559 --> 0:13:20.080 you off with that one. Yeah, well, I mean it's 0:13:20.080 --> 0:13:23.199 just it's it's it is. Uh, it's a good bit. 0:13:23.280 --> 0:13:25.400 It's funny because I guess you could it's kind of 0:13:25.400 --> 0:13:27.880 a malleable concept. You could tweak it to like any 0:13:28.000 --> 0:13:31.400 concept of American pop culture and have a solid platform 0:13:31.440 --> 0:13:33.280 to write from, because as long as you're just going 0:13:33.320 --> 0:13:35.400 with aliens, think this is more of a thing than 0:13:35.440 --> 0:13:36.880 it is pretty much. 0:13:36.880 --> 0:13:39.280 I mean, yeah, I had almost like, you know, the 0:13:39.280 --> 0:13:42.040 spaceship Lands and everybody's there and the news cruise and 0:13:42.040 --> 0:13:45.000 all the foreign dignitaries and everything, and the door comes 0:13:45.040 --> 0:13:48.280 down and then it's like John Cusack with the boom 0:13:48.320 --> 0:13:51.960 box in say anything, just playing like mister Jones and 0:13:52.000 --> 0:13:58.119 me or something, and everyone's just like bitterly disappointed mister Jones. 0:13:59.840 --> 0:14:02.480 I mean, I've come around the Counting Crows, honestly, Oh totally. 0:14:02.640 --> 0:14:05.120 Oh my god, yeah, they got some they got some heaters. 0:14:07.000 --> 0:14:10.080 Howard continued. Right after I got married, I started watching 0:14:10.080 --> 0:14:12.600 Star Trek for research. It was on five days a week, 0:14:12.600 --> 0:14:14.320 in syndication. So all of a sudden, I've got this 0:14:14.360 --> 0:14:17.520 star trek Habit watching it every night. An excellent move 0:14:17.559 --> 0:14:20.479 for a newlywed. It's really intended to be an homage. 0:14:20.560 --> 0:14:23.080 It's kidding, but it's kidding with respect, and that's a 0:14:23.080 --> 0:14:24.960 tone in my draft that was maintained throughout. 0:14:25.600 --> 0:14:27.320 He continued. I almost feel. 0:14:27.160 --> 0:14:29.120 Guilty about the success of this because it was all 0:14:29.160 --> 0:14:31.880 just waiting to happen. It's like finding a perfect artifact 0:14:31.880 --> 0:14:34.040 in the ground. You just find it. It's not like 0:14:34.080 --> 0:14:36.280 you made it. So many of the jokes were natural 0:14:36.320 --> 0:14:37.360 that it just kind of happened. 0:14:37.640 --> 0:14:41.680 This guy is very sweet and very like I guess 0:14:41.760 --> 0:14:43.280 the sweetness originates with him. 0:14:43.480 --> 0:14:48.400 That's something that I really like find artists talking consistently about, 0:14:48.480 --> 0:14:51.240 and I just love it. You know, this idea that like, 0:14:51.560 --> 0:14:54.200 whatever creative thing that you made is just out there 0:14:54.400 --> 0:14:57.000 and you just have to like attune yourself and then 0:14:57.040 --> 0:14:58.760 you get like as fast. 0:14:58.520 --> 0:15:01.480 As the pen would pool. Yes, exactly exactly. 0:15:01.640 --> 0:15:03.880 I told you that phrase, right, yeah, oh yes, yes, 0:15:04.400 --> 0:15:06.840 because I was about to repeat it and be like, uh. 0:15:06.920 --> 0:15:09.440 You know, grateful, did a lyricist Robert Hunter. 0:15:09.760 --> 0:15:12.280 Howard's lucky break was when He simply gave the early 0:15:12.400 --> 0:15:15.120 script for Galaxy Crest to a friend who knew someone 0:15:15.120 --> 0:15:20.280 at Beacon Pictures who knew someone at CAAA. He drolly 0:15:20.320 --> 0:15:22.840 notes in that interview, I wouldn't advise anyone to try 0:15:22.880 --> 0:15:24.840 and do that, because that's like coming out here and 0:15:24.880 --> 0:15:26.560 expecting lightning to strike you. 0:15:27.600 --> 0:15:31.040 Yeah. Good, I mean at least he's aware. Yeah, like 0:15:31.320 --> 0:15:33.280 you know, born on third or hit a triple of 0:15:33.400 --> 0:15:38.200 the phrases. Yeah. Galaxy Quest eventual producer Mark Johnson said 0:15:38.200 --> 0:15:41.120 that very few people have ever seen the original draft 0:15:41.160 --> 0:15:44.960 of Captain Starshine, written by the really quite lovely man 0:15:45.120 --> 0:15:48.560 David Howard. The producer Mark Johnson told MTV News for 0:15:48.560 --> 0:15:51.520 their twenty fourteen Galaxy Quest oral history. 0:15:51.240 --> 0:15:54.480 Tremendous read. By the way, huge props who wrote it. 0:15:54.640 --> 0:15:56.560 Jordan Hoffman, Oh yeah. 0:15:56.400 --> 0:15:57.880 I remember, because that was when I was working at 0:15:57.920 --> 0:16:00.000 VH one and we worked a little bit with MTV News. 0:16:00.280 --> 0:16:03.120 Good for Jordan Hoffmann, But producer Mark Johnson told MTV 0:16:03.240 --> 0:16:06.720 News the original concept was brilliant, but still he brought 0:16:06.720 --> 0:16:09.080 in another writer, a guy named Robert Gordon, to do 0:16:09.160 --> 0:16:11.880 some punch ups. And this guy, Robert Gordon, his only 0:16:11.920 --> 0:16:15.240 credit at that point was nineteen ninety seven's Addicted to Love. 0:16:15.960 --> 0:16:20.360 Who's in that again, Drew Barrymore, not that first appearance 0:16:20.440 --> 0:16:23.640 of a weird late nineties Drew Barrymore movie in this episode. 0:16:23.720 --> 0:16:29.320 If any of this sounds familiar, scream, I guess, But 0:16:29.400 --> 0:16:33.720 it's Drew Barrymore, Matthew Broderick, Meg Ryan, Mark Wahlberg, Kelly Preston, 0:16:33.880 --> 0:16:36.680 Jessica Biel, Freddie Prince Junior, and Luke Wilson. 0:16:36.800 --> 0:16:40.920 That's stacked. Wow. Okay, that's a great nineties core sample. 0:16:41.680 --> 0:16:43.520 So yeah, the producer, even though he said he really 0:16:43.600 --> 0:16:46.840 liked the original Galaxy Quest Draft, brought in another writer, 0:16:46.960 --> 0:16:49.960 Robert Gordon, whose only movie credit at this point was 0:16:50.040 --> 0:16:53.080 nineteen ninety seven's Addicted to Love starring Drew Barrymore and 0:16:53.080 --> 0:16:57.680 all those other stellar members of the nineties. Yes. Yes, 0:16:57.880 --> 0:17:01.240 he's since gone on to do Men in Black, Two Lemony, Snickets, 0:17:01.320 --> 0:17:04.520 a Series of Unfortunate Events, and he also helped produce Sky, 0:17:04.640 --> 0:17:07.480 Captain in the World of Tomorrow and also Wonder Park, 0:17:07.520 --> 0:17:11.560 which I'm not familiar with. Yeah, this punch up. Writer 0:17:11.720 --> 0:17:14.159 Robert Gordon told them TV News, I didn't read Captain 0:17:14.240 --> 0:17:16.960 Starshine the original draft until after the film was made, 0:17:17.880 --> 0:17:20.800 which it could be read as a dickish thing to do, 0:17:20.880 --> 0:17:23.520 although maybe he intentionally avoided it so that he like 0:17:23.960 --> 0:17:26.000 came to it with his own fresh ideas. I don't know, 0:17:26.040 --> 0:17:27.560 that's so weird. Do you think it's that one and 0:17:27.680 --> 0:17:31.600 you think it's just laziness? Yeah, he added, I heard 0:17:31.640 --> 0:17:33.720 the logline from my agent. I thought that it could 0:17:33.760 --> 0:17:36.000 be a great idea or it could be a terrible idea. 0:17:36.400 --> 0:17:38.320 I didn't take the job at first because I thought 0:17:38.320 --> 0:17:40.359 it was too hard. But I would go in with 0:17:40.359 --> 0:17:42.679 a scene like Tommy takes the ship out of the 0:17:42.720 --> 0:17:44.840 dock and scratches it on the side, and they would 0:17:44.880 --> 0:17:47.440 say that's great, you should write this, and I'd say 0:17:48.119 --> 0:17:50.520 I don't have it yet. Only when I nailed the 0:17:50.520 --> 0:17:52.479 scene where the captain has to admit he's a fraud, 0:17:52.600 --> 0:17:56.199 then I said, okay, I've got it. Robert Gordon had 0:17:56.240 --> 0:17:58.520 an earlier love of Star Trek than David Howard, the 0:17:58.560 --> 0:18:01.120 original screenwriter, so at least he had that going for him. 0:18:01.800 --> 0:18:03.639 He'd say, I've watched them from the time I was 0:18:03.680 --> 0:18:06.680 six years old in nineteen sixty six when Start Trick 0:18:06.880 --> 0:18:09.720 was premiered, but at least he and Howard were aligned 0:18:09.760 --> 0:18:12.280 on one thing. He'd say. I can't say I specifically 0:18:12.280 --> 0:18:15.360 had William Shatner's cadences in my head or in my dialogue, 0:18:15.480 --> 0:18:17.800 but the plight of Captain Kirk and William Shatner and 0:18:17.840 --> 0:18:20.240 his situation was certainly in the back of my head. 0:18:21.359 --> 0:18:25.159 I mean, you must have seen the the SNL sketch. 0:18:25.160 --> 0:18:27.679 Oh yeah, yeah, because there was a when I was 0:18:27.720 --> 0:18:31.040 coming IMDb, there was a Tria factor on there that 0:18:31.200 --> 0:18:34.280 was like the scene where Tim Allen's character overhears people 0:18:34.359 --> 0:18:38.280 talking about him in a bathroom stall was something that 0:18:38.320 --> 0:18:42.880 actually happened to Shatner at a fan convoy. Oh really, yeah, 0:18:42.920 --> 0:18:45.760 But in trying to verify that, I didn't find anything 0:18:45.760 --> 0:18:47.480 about it. It might be in his book, but I'm 0:18:47.520 --> 0:18:50.480 not going to read that. But all the results because 0:18:50.520 --> 0:18:52.680 if you do, if you just look up William Shatner 0:18:53.480 --> 0:18:55.960 nineteen eighty six, all you get is that SNL skin, 0:18:56.119 --> 0:18:59.400 the famous Get a Light skit as it has become known. 0:18:59.680 --> 0:19:01.760 Yes, out in there for anyone who hasn't seen that, 0:19:03.040 --> 0:19:05.320 is at a fan convention and he kind of has 0:19:05.359 --> 0:19:08.119 a meltdown to all the fans and just shrieks at 0:19:08.160 --> 0:19:10.280 them to get a life, which is really kind of 0:19:10.320 --> 0:19:13.880 the first you know. Now, I think Trekki's are kind 0:19:13.880 --> 0:19:16.560 of They've been parodied so much that, as you say, 0:19:16.680 --> 0:19:18.920 it's viewed as punching down. But I want to say, 0:19:18.920 --> 0:19:21.080 in like eighty six, that was kind of like the 0:19:21.119 --> 0:19:26.520 first time anybody, especially Shatner, took a with them, you know, yeah, 0:19:26.560 --> 0:19:28.440 I mean it was so much of a subculture before, 0:19:28.480 --> 0:19:29.160 like the HNT. 0:19:29.200 --> 0:19:31.520 I don't think it's almost a I have to think 0:19:31.560 --> 0:19:35.800 he came in with that idea. It's so because like what, 0:19:36.040 --> 0:19:38.040 how would I mean unless someone in this on the 0:19:38.040 --> 0:19:40.119 writing staff at that point was a treky like, I 0:19:40.160 --> 0:19:42.000 don't know that you would even have been exposed to 0:19:42.040 --> 0:19:44.400 that kind of thing. And at this point, I mean, 0:19:44.440 --> 0:19:46.120 eighty six, maybe that's twenty. 0:19:46.200 --> 0:19:49.840 I mean, I because it was before TNG launched, right, 0:19:50.000 --> 0:19:53.480 so that was eighty seven. I want to say eighty 0:19:53.520 --> 0:19:56.760 eight maybe, yeah. I mean, I'm very confused about how 0:19:56.840 --> 0:20:00.960 big Star Trek was during its initial run because it's 0:20:01.000 --> 0:20:04.920 been so course corrected in recent years of everybody saying, 0:20:04.960 --> 0:20:06.760 you know, it wasn't that big of a phenomenon when 0:20:06.760 --> 0:20:08.439 it was on the air, you know, and it was 0:20:08.480 --> 0:20:11.320 only years later. But now I almost think it's gone 0:20:11.320 --> 0:20:13.919 too far in that direction. And it was actually bigger 0:20:13.960 --> 0:20:16.600 than like we think now, like it actually you know, 0:20:16.640 --> 0:20:19.320 it was on NBC for three years, like it was 0:20:19.800 --> 0:20:20.480 a big deal. 0:20:21.200 --> 0:20:25.080 I think it was in syndication honestly that it became 0:20:25.119 --> 0:20:28.520 a bigger thing, because I mean, yeah, they canceled it 0:20:29.200 --> 0:20:30.720 after three seasons. 0:20:31.960 --> 0:20:34.960 Although The Monkeys was only on the from sixty six 0:20:35.040 --> 0:20:39.200 to and the sixty eight and they were huge. Okay, man, 0:20:41.000 --> 0:20:45.240 another NBC show Man, we should do the Monkeys, although 0:20:45.240 --> 0:20:47.439 that would take forever. There's so much lore in that, 0:20:47.520 --> 0:20:50.520 so that's like Star Trek level of like fan obsession. 0:20:50.920 --> 0:20:55.919 M yeah, no, it's crazy, okay, Yeah. Well back to 0:20:55.960 --> 0:20:58.960 Galaxy Quest producer Mark Johnson, who's best known for the 0:20:59.000 --> 0:21:02.720 string of hits he produce with Barry Levinson, including rain Man, 0:21:02.800 --> 0:21:07.400 Good Morning Vietnam, The Natural, Tin Men, Toys, Young Sherlock Holmes, 0:21:07.480 --> 0:21:10.679 Avalon Diner, which we were just talking about, great movie, 0:21:10.680 --> 0:21:13.720 and Bugsy. He had a first look deal with DreamWorks 0:21:13.720 --> 0:21:16.280 at the time, and he knew that they were thirsty 0:21:16.359 --> 0:21:19.120 for movies. As you write thirsty, I don't know why 0:21:19.119 --> 0:21:23.240 I wrote that, so he purchased Captain Starshine, and once 0:21:23.359 --> 0:21:26.800 Robert Gordon had his shot at rewriting, it passed along 0:21:26.840 --> 0:21:29.960 to the studio who green lit it. He said, I'm 0:21:29.960 --> 0:21:32.359 probably the last person to be doing science fiction. But 0:21:32.359 --> 0:21:34.600 then I read this script from David Howard. I saw 0:21:34.680 --> 0:21:37.960 the potential for humor and the concept of actors in space. 0:21:38.560 --> 0:21:40.760 Think of all these producers probably would love the idea 0:21:40.800 --> 0:21:43.000 of just blasting a bunch of actors in the space. 0:21:43.160 --> 0:21:43.920 That's also true. 0:21:44.000 --> 0:21:47.800 I also just I just love how like every everything 0:21:47.880 --> 0:21:52.120 ends up in space. You know, Muppets in space. Well, 0:21:52.160 --> 0:21:54.560 it's it's a joke with the horror and horror stuff. 0:21:54.560 --> 0:21:58.280 And I think it actually originates with John Carpenter because 0:21:58.280 --> 0:22:01.480 at some point somebody, as they constantly did, We're. 0:22:01.240 --> 0:22:03.200 Like, oh, you're gonna do another Halloween? What are you 0:22:03.200 --> 0:22:05.520 gonna What would you do for Halloween if you came 0:22:05.520 --> 0:22:07.439 back and did Halloween? And at some point he was 0:22:07.520 --> 0:22:08.760 just like cranky. 0:22:08.840 --> 0:22:11.600 John Carpenter was just like, ah, send them to space 0:22:12.920 --> 0:22:17.240 like exhales cigarette takes off his gaming headset for one second, 0:22:17.280 --> 0:22:21.040 and it was like, ah, it's just like grabs any Yeah, 0:22:21.080 --> 0:22:24.400 but no, he he made that a joke, and then 0:22:24.440 --> 0:22:26.199 I think the first one that they actually did it 0:22:26.240 --> 0:22:28.360 with was Pinhead. 0:22:28.400 --> 0:22:30.320 There's a like the fourth. 0:22:30.119 --> 0:22:33.120 I think hell Raiser movie is in space, and then 0:22:33.160 --> 0:22:37.120 if I and then I think in short succession, Leprechaun 0:22:37.160 --> 0:22:40.000 went to space after going to the after going to 0:22:40.160 --> 0:22:44.120 the Hood. If anyone hasn't seen Leprechaun in the Hood, 0:22:44.160 --> 0:22:46.399 it's it's it's a treat. 0:22:46.680 --> 0:22:48.280 It's a great entry into movies. 0:22:48.320 --> 0:22:53.440 Canvas. Yes, yes, it's certainly a movie. And then Jason Jason. 0:22:53.200 --> 0:22:54.760 Went to space. 0:22:55.080 --> 0:22:58.280 Yeah, Jason, x uh, this is it's the tenth one. 0:22:58.320 --> 0:23:01.040 It's I think that's also be his name in it 0:23:01.080 --> 0:23:03.879 because he gets like upgraded. They like he gets like 0:23:03.920 --> 0:23:06.480 a Nano suit. He gets like a Iron Man suit. 0:23:06.880 --> 0:23:08.479 Starts. It's terrible. 0:23:08.640 --> 0:23:11.159 It does have a hilarious like blink and you'll miss it. 0:23:11.600 --> 0:23:15.479 Cameo from David Cronenberg, who just like pops in as 0:23:15.600 --> 0:23:18.680 as like a random guy who gets like that random professor. 0:23:19.280 --> 0:23:21.800 But yeah, so going to space was a real concern 0:23:21.840 --> 0:23:23.920 actually for a lot of concern. 0:23:24.359 --> 0:23:25.359 Yeah, don't don't. 0:23:25.600 --> 0:23:28.359 Yeah, they say, what kind of a bit do you 0:23:28.400 --> 0:23:33.879 have with Freddy Krueger singing please mister Kennedy from Inside 0:23:33.960 --> 0:23:34.680 Lewin Davis. 0:23:35.280 --> 0:23:36.160 That's a high concept. 0:23:36.440 --> 0:23:40.080 Wow. Wow yeah, just galaxy braining out with that one. 0:23:41.280 --> 0:23:49.400 Please mister Kennedy, Older Space, that's movie. 0:23:49.720 --> 0:23:53.760 Yeah the song isn't that really good too? Yeah? I 0:23:53.760 --> 0:23:55.439 think it's God who wrote a lot. I was just 0:23:55.440 --> 0:23:59.879 gonna ask you. Yeah, I don't think it was. I 0:23:59.920 --> 0:24:01.560 was going to say, was it t Bone? No? 0:24:01.960 --> 0:24:04.240 I don't think he's that much of a writer. He's 0:24:04.240 --> 0:24:06.520 always credited as like curator. 0:24:08.440 --> 0:24:08.800 Music. 0:24:11.240 --> 0:24:14.680 Yeah, I mean some of it was just traditional T 0:24:14.800 --> 0:24:16.920 Bone Burnett. Yeah, and Marcus Mumford. 0:24:17.160 --> 0:24:18.920 How about that? Ah that makes sense? 0:24:19.359 --> 0:24:22.240 Oh okay, wait. Actually, the novelty song Please Mister Kennedy 0:24:22.280 --> 0:24:25.600 appears to be a fourth generation derivative of the nineteen 0:24:25.680 --> 0:24:30.040 sixty song Mister Custard about the Battle of Little Bighorn 0:24:30.440 --> 0:24:32.760 Motown put out a please mister Kennedy. I don't want 0:24:32.760 --> 0:24:35.920 to go, But that was about that was about Nam. 0:24:37.400 --> 0:24:40.280 Wow. They were putting out protest songs about Nam before 0:24:40.280 --> 0:24:44.600 the golf of talking. That is so funny. Wow, nineteen 0:24:44.640 --> 0:24:47.760 sixty two there was another one another, So yeah, they 0:24:47.800 --> 0:24:48.320 just took it. 0:24:48.880 --> 0:24:50.720 They just took the bit and instead of making it 0:24:50.720 --> 0:24:54.600 about Vietnam made it about going to space against your will. 0:24:54.760 --> 0:24:59.720 Oh Man goats love him so much, so I gotta 0:24:59.720 --> 0:25:02.040 say I feel bad for the original guy who came 0:25:02.119 --> 0:25:03.720 up with this premise and wrote the first draft of 0:25:03.760 --> 0:25:07.560 the script, David Howard, the starry eyed young man who 0:25:08.000 --> 0:25:11.520 went west and worked at a telecom company and banged 0:25:11.520 --> 0:25:13.920 out a script and actually had it fly all the 0:25:13.920 --> 0:25:16.800 way up to CIA and then just get taken from 0:25:16.880 --> 0:25:24.040 him and totally rewritten. But he's very optimistic. It seemed 0:25:24.040 --> 0:25:26.040 to be too bitter about it, and it was quite funny. 0:25:26.520 --> 0:25:29.720 He told IGN. I was there briefly in the beginning, 0:25:29.840 --> 0:25:31.679 and I worked with them for a few weeks and 0:25:31.720 --> 0:25:34.440 submitted some ideas, some of which did get fleshed out 0:25:34.640 --> 0:25:36.880 and ended up in the final script. But a lot 0:25:36.920 --> 0:25:39.240 of it is Robert Gordon's work too. I think he 0:25:39.280 --> 0:25:42.760 did a terrific job. And asked how the film changed 0:25:42.800 --> 0:25:46.639 from his first draft to the final product, sweet David 0:25:46.680 --> 0:25:50.199 Howard said, diplomatically, the easiest way to answer that is 0:25:50.280 --> 0:25:53.760 just by saying, it's the same guy's journey. My script 0:25:53.800 --> 0:25:56.520 followed just the captain much more closely, where I was 0:25:56.520 --> 0:25:58.560 focusing on the rest of the crew a lot of 0:25:58.600 --> 0:26:01.320 that was Robert Gordon. I feel bad for him. Oh, 0:26:01.359 --> 0:26:03.159 I think he's fine. I hope you God, did he 0:26:03.200 --> 0:26:04.840 do anything else after this great question? 0:26:07.840 --> 0:26:12.360 So this is where production got complicated in an early stage, 0:26:12.440 --> 0:26:16.439 which is never a good sign. The producer Mark Johnson 0:26:16.480 --> 0:26:19.399 had worked with this director named Dean Parasot before on 0:26:19.520 --> 0:26:23.080 this largely forgotten Drew Barrymore project called Home Fries, which 0:26:23.119 --> 0:26:25.440 was weirdly enough, written by Vince Gilligan when he was 0:26:25.480 --> 0:26:30.320 at NYU. That's right, that's right, right, future. 0:26:30.080 --> 0:26:33.919 X Files writer and Breaking Bad show runner Vince Gillian creator. Right, 0:26:33.960 --> 0:26:35.760 he's created Breaking Bad, didn't he? Yeah? 0:26:35.800 --> 0:26:39.320 Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think you know. Dean Parasat also 0:26:39.359 --> 0:26:41.240 seems like a nice guy. So I was looking up 0:26:41.280 --> 0:26:43.120 his career and I was like, why did this guy 0:26:43.119 --> 0:26:45.920 get handed this movie? And what else hasn't he done? 0:26:46.080 --> 0:26:50.040 Then I found out he's married to Sally Menck, who. 0:26:50.320 --> 0:26:50.840 I don't know. 0:26:51.480 --> 0:26:53.960 Oh, she's like one of the most famous editors of 0:26:54.320 --> 0:27:02.000 this era of a film. Menke was Quentin Tarantino's Oh Shall. 0:27:01.840 --> 0:27:05.280 We Die recently y ten Time Isn't Real. 0:27:05.960 --> 0:27:08.919 She was nominated twenty five times for her editing for 0:27:09.000 --> 0:27:10.680 various Awards and won twelve. 0:27:11.560 --> 0:27:11.919 Wow. 0:27:12.480 --> 0:27:14.600 But yeah, so Dean Parasot was married to her, and 0:27:15.359 --> 0:27:19.600 he had one Academy Award in nineteen eighty eight for 0:27:19.640 --> 0:27:23.000 a short film called The Appointments of Dennis Jennings, which 0:27:23.119 --> 0:27:25.560 was a collaboration with Stephen Wright, which I think is 0:27:25.840 --> 0:27:29.800 really interesting during that brief era when when stand up 0:27:29.840 --> 0:27:34.080 comics were everyone was just rating la for whatever stand 0:27:34.160 --> 0:27:37.240 up comics they could find. That's how Sam Kinnison, I 0:27:37.280 --> 0:27:38.359 was just gonna say. 0:27:38.400 --> 0:27:39.040 Got a career. 0:27:40.160 --> 0:27:43.040 But yeah, he didn't do any other movies until Home Fries, 0:27:43.080 --> 0:27:46.200 which was a solid ten years after winning this Academy award. 0:27:46.400 --> 0:27:50.440 Anyway, no other movies, no more to movies, the movies. 0:27:51.640 --> 0:27:54.560 So Mark Johnson won a Dean parasatt but DreamWorks was 0:27:54.640 --> 0:27:57.479 understandably reluctant to handover. They were still kind of new 0:27:57.480 --> 0:27:59.159 at this point. They were reluctant to hand over a 0:27:59.200 --> 0:28:02.679 major production to guy who'd only done one feature film, 0:28:02.720 --> 0:28:06.480 which was a flop. So Variety reported in November nineteen 0:28:06.560 --> 0:28:11.160 ninety eight that legendary comedy director and actor Harold Ramis. 0:28:10.760 --> 0:28:13.280 Spoffos comedy actor and director. 0:28:13.400 --> 0:28:16.640 Who was then he was then completing production on analyze this. 0:28:17.520 --> 0:28:20.560 He was named for Galaxy Quest early on. I see that, 0:28:21.320 --> 0:28:24.879 so Harold Ramis did not end up directing Galaxy Quest. 0:28:25.040 --> 0:28:31.520 So what happened, Well, like a lot of things in life, 0:28:31.840 --> 0:28:34.479 this was Tim Allen's fault. So sorry to piss off 0:28:34.520 --> 0:28:36.919 anyone with an enormous attachment to buzz light Year or 0:28:36.960 --> 0:28:41.000 home improvement or I guess the Santa Claus or the 0:28:41.040 --> 0:28:43.920 remake of the Shaggy Da wasn't he didn't he also 0:28:43.960 --> 0:28:45.040 do that? 0:28:45.400 --> 0:28:47.000 Or maybe it was that darn cat that he was 0:28:47.000 --> 0:28:52.400 one of those. Yeah, Tim Allen sucks. Yeah, I think 0:28:53.000 --> 0:28:55.320 we all accept that. I think that that's like, yeah, 0:28:55.440 --> 0:28:56.720 that's not a hot take. 0:28:56.880 --> 0:29:01.680 I would say, all right, great, but tells well Tim 0:29:01.680 --> 0:29:04.680 Allen in fairness, he was born in Colorado, and his 0:29:04.760 --> 0:29:07.400 mom moved to Michigan after his father died in a 0:29:07.440 --> 0:29:10.480 car accident. He grew up in Detroit and eventually went 0:29:10.520 --> 0:29:13.280 first to Central Michigan University and then Western Michigan, where 0:29:13.320 --> 0:29:16.080 he met his first wife. But also while there, he 0:29:16.120 --> 0:29:18.800 developed a coke addiction, and, like so many before him, 0:29:19.040 --> 0:29:21.160 turned to dealing to fuel his habit. 0:29:21.600 --> 0:29:24.520 Yeah, that's why I started dejaying, vented soul forty five's 0:29:24.520 --> 0:29:27.040 as I had to find out way to pay for him. Ooh, 0:29:27.080 --> 0:29:30.680 that's a hard that's the hard stuff. First one's free. 0:29:31.000 --> 0:29:33.160 But he was married to his first wife when he 0:29:33.240 --> 0:29:36.360 became a coke rat. Yes, and they stayed married until 0:29:36.360 --> 0:29:39.320 two thousand and three. It's good for him. I guess 0:29:39.680 --> 0:29:41.560 she's a better person than I am. So. 0:29:41.600 --> 0:29:44.840 In October of nineteen seventy eight, two years after Alan graduated, 0:29:44.840 --> 0:29:48.240 he was arrested at Kalamazoo Battle Creek International Airport in 0:29:48.280 --> 0:29:50.960 Michigan in possession of more than six hundred and fifty 0:29:50.960 --> 0:29:51.880 grams of cocaine. 0:29:52.040 --> 0:29:54.080 I just want a visual about how much six hundred 0:29:54.080 --> 0:29:57.320 and fifty grams of cocaine looks like? Well, don't they do? 0:29:57.640 --> 0:29:59.400 I mean, so, if like your average bottle of coke 0:29:59.480 --> 0:30:02.320 has like twenty eight grams of thirty whatever, how many 0:30:02.400 --> 0:30:04.680 grams of sugar in it? And those are always registered 0:30:04.720 --> 0:30:08.360 like rendered with like sugar cubes, right, imagine six hundred 0:30:08.400 --> 0:30:09.520 and fifty sugar cubes. 0:30:10.800 --> 0:30:13.400 Okay, Oh wow, that is Yeah, that's a lot. That's 0:30:13.400 --> 0:30:16.360 like a gallon size back. That's quite a lot. 0:30:18.240 --> 0:30:20.960 Unfortunately for Tim Allen, Michigan had just passed a law 0:30:20.960 --> 0:30:23.479 that issued a life sentence to those in possession of 0:30:23.480 --> 0:30:26.440 six hundred and fifty grams are over war on drugs? 0:30:27.240 --> 0:30:30.520 Actually no, that's it predates the War on drugs. Michigan 0:30:30.600 --> 0:30:33.080 was just ahead of its time in draconian drug policy. 0:30:33.600 --> 0:30:38.480 So they recently passed an ordinance or a law of 0:30:38.520 --> 0:30:40.720 the exact amount that he was caring. 0:30:41.320 --> 0:30:43.560 It is quite funny. And he also, I mean he was, 0:30:43.680 --> 0:30:46.440 he was. It was like a full on sting operation. 0:30:46.600 --> 0:30:49.160 Like he dealt he handed it over to an undercover cop. 0:30:49.200 --> 0:30:52.040 It wasn't just like he got flagged within his bag randomly. 0:30:52.680 --> 0:30:53.840 So I mean, is that the Do you think they 0:30:53.840 --> 0:30:58.040 were like, Okay, bring this very precise amount. Yeah. 0:30:58.200 --> 0:31:03.120 Tim Allen in particular, so, as documented in Allan's hilariously 0:31:03.120 --> 0:31:08.400 titled biography by John F. Wukowitz called Tim Allen parentheses 0:31:08.760 --> 0:31:12.480 Overcoming Adversity Parentheses Closed Old Timmy had been set up 0:31:12.480 --> 0:31:15.320 by an undercover police officer named Michael Pifer, no relation 0:31:15.400 --> 0:31:18.560 to Michelle, who had allegedly been tracking him for months. 0:31:19.040 --> 0:31:21.760 Alan put an Adidas holdall full of cocaine in a 0:31:21.800 --> 0:31:24.360 locker and handed the key to Pifer. The next thing 0:31:24.400 --> 0:31:27.000 I observed was a gun in my face. Alan later 0:31:27.040 --> 0:31:30.360 told the Detroit Free Press. Alan had been told he'd 0:31:30.360 --> 0:31:32.600 be getting a cool forty two thousand for the trafficking, 0:31:32.680 --> 0:31:36.120 but was now facing a possible life sentence, so naturally 0:31:36.160 --> 0:31:38.200 he tucked his little tail between his legs and started 0:31:38.280 --> 0:31:41.719 ratting people out. Now, the pigs obviously loved this, and 0:31:41.800 --> 0:31:44.000 Alan was sentenced at a federal court rather than a 0:31:44.040 --> 0:31:47.040 state one, meaning the newly passed law no longer applied 0:31:47.040 --> 0:31:50.400 to his case. Ultimately, since to three to seven years, 0:31:50.400 --> 0:31:53.280 he served only two years and four months, probably because 0:31:53.320 --> 0:31:56.880 his information quote helped authorities indict twenty people in the 0:31:56.960 --> 0:32:00.240 drug trade and resulted in the conviction and sentencing of 0:32:00.400 --> 0:32:02.440 four major drug dealers. 0:32:02.720 --> 0:32:05.920 It's insane to think that Tim Allen did years of 0:32:05.960 --> 0:32:09.160 prison time, Like I know, that's nowhere near what it 0:32:09.160 --> 0:32:12.920 could have been, and it didn't humble him in the slightest. 0:32:13.320 --> 0:32:17.480 He just came out still being like I'm great, I'm 0:32:17.480 --> 0:32:21.720 Tim Allen. Yeah, And so that segues into my next point. 0:32:21.720 --> 0:32:23.440 It does not seem like he became a nicer man 0:32:23.520 --> 0:32:28.000 from there. Pamela Anderson's memoir Love Pamela, she notes that 0:32:28.080 --> 0:32:30.120 Alan flashed her on the set of Home improvement when 0:32:30.160 --> 0:32:33.040 she was twenty three years old, claiming he said it 0:32:33.080 --> 0:32:35.600 was only fair because he had seen me naked and 0:32:35.640 --> 0:32:36.440 now we were even. 0:32:36.720 --> 0:32:40.400 I don't understand the flashing desire, the exhibitionist desire, I 0:32:40.440 --> 0:32:46.200 should say, ask Luis k Man. I, oh yeah. 0:32:46.360 --> 0:32:48.680 Barry Sonenfelder called an incident on the set of Big 0:32:48.720 --> 0:32:50.880 Trouble when not Big Trouble in Little China. 0:32:50.960 --> 0:32:53.600 The it was in Trouble at the pad of a 0:32:53.640 --> 0:32:55.120 Dave Barry book, I believe. 0:32:55.120 --> 0:32:56.520 Yeah, And this is the one that was like it 0:32:56.600 --> 0:32:58.240 was like about bombing an airplane nine to. 0:32:58.200 --> 0:33:01.240 Eleven, got right before an eleven. Yeah. 0:33:01.360 --> 0:33:03.640 So Tim Allen met co star his co star in 0:33:03.680 --> 0:33:06.520 that movie, Renee Russo, for the first time, and Barry 0:33:06.520 --> 0:33:08.520 Sonenfeld was like, Okay, you guys need to act like 0:33:08.600 --> 0:33:10.520 your your direction in this scene is that you have 0:33:10.600 --> 0:33:14.840 instant burning chemistry, Tim, In other words, you are attracted 0:33:14.840 --> 0:33:17.600 to Renee Russo. And Tim Allen pushed back and said, 0:33:17.840 --> 0:33:21.120 why would I be, and Sonenfeld explained that this was 0:33:21.120 --> 0:33:24.800 a movie and that Alan's job was to act, and 0:33:24.840 --> 0:33:28.640 Alan retorted acting darling, yeah, And Alan retorted I'm not 0:33:28.680 --> 0:33:31.400 attracted to her, and Russo tried to play it off 0:33:31.400 --> 0:33:34.560 by joking, I'll act attractive, Tim, I promise that's good 0:33:35.160 --> 0:33:36.760 in what Sonenfeld described. 0:33:36.440 --> 0:33:39.400 As a Marilyn Monroe voice. But Alan, but Alan. 0:33:39.240 --> 0:33:42.280 Declared it's hard to act attracted to someone if they're 0:33:42.320 --> 0:33:45.760 not attractive. Sounenfeld got frustrated and said, you're an actor, Tim, 0:33:45.800 --> 0:33:47.360 just act like you're attracted to one of the most 0:33:47.400 --> 0:33:50.040 beautiful women in the world. Okay, And all Alan could 0:33:50.080 --> 0:33:53.880 muster was I'll try or I'm sorry. And all Alan 0:33:53.920 --> 0:33:58.480 could muster was I can try like he's a prize. 0:33:59.000 --> 0:34:00.880 You see that mugshot with that mustache. 0:34:00.880 --> 0:34:08.320 He looks like a non union John Holmes. Wow, yes Yes. 0:34:09.719 --> 0:34:13.560 More recently, Casey Wilson claimed that Tim was fining rude 0:34:13.600 --> 0:34:15.480 to her and other cast and crew members on the 0:34:15.480 --> 0:34:18.400 set of Disney Pluses the Santa Clauses, which I'm just 0:34:18.440 --> 0:34:22.120 now learning existed. Tim Allen was such a bitch. It 0:34:22.239 --> 0:34:24.520 was the truly single worst experience I've ever had with 0:34:24.560 --> 0:34:26.839 a co star, she said on a December twenty twenty 0:34:26.840 --> 0:34:29.719 three episode of her podcast. Never made eye contact, never 0:34:29.760 --> 0:34:32.920 said anything. It was so uncomfortable. It's the end of shooting, 0:34:32.920 --> 0:34:36.880 and Tim Allen goes leaving, takes his Santa Cape, takes 0:34:36.880 --> 0:34:39.360 his Santa Cape, picks it up and drops it on 0:34:39.400 --> 0:34:41.680 the floor and walks out, and they hustle in his 0:34:41.760 --> 0:34:43.880 stand in a lovely man who is much nicer to 0:34:43.920 --> 0:34:46.520 act against. And she continued, I will not say who 0:34:46.640 --> 0:34:48.560 said this. This was someone that I do not know, 0:34:48.760 --> 0:34:51.520 perhaps in the crew. They breezed past me and just 0:34:51.560 --> 0:34:53.400 go you're seeing him on a good day. 0:34:54.320 --> 0:34:57.600 Picturing him as like James Brown taking his cape off, 0:34:58.080 --> 0:35:03.320 just like dropping it on the floor leaving. Yeah, so 0:35:03.360 --> 0:35:05.799 I'm going to end every episode now from now. Yeah, 0:35:05.880 --> 0:35:07.239 it's a good bit. Uh. 0:35:07.520 --> 0:35:09.399 And as you may not be surprised to learn given 0:35:09.440 --> 0:35:12.120 that his Network TV show, which is like has went 0:35:12.200 --> 0:35:15.800 for like ten or eleven season, may actually is it 0:35:15.960 --> 0:35:16.759 still on the air? 0:35:17.880 --> 0:35:20.719 I you know, he's in a new show with Kat 0:35:20.840 --> 0:35:25.520 Denning's man Standing, So I don't think he's in two 0:35:25.520 --> 0:35:28.279 sitcombs at the same time. Maybe wouldn't put it past me. 0:35:28.560 --> 0:35:30.239 He seems to have like that same like weird like 0:35:30.320 --> 0:35:34.240 Jay Leno level work ethic. Wow twenty eleven to twenty 0:35:34.280 --> 0:35:34.759 twenty one. 0:35:35.000 --> 0:35:39.560 Jesus, anyway, that show was like just Tim Allen wondering 0:35:39.600 --> 0:35:40.440 around going. 0:35:44.800 --> 0:35:51.879 Black people have rights. God, I hate him so much. 0:35:52.200 --> 0:35:54.160 Yeah, I mean he's basically leaning into the whole like 0:35:54.200 --> 0:35:56.520 republicans of the really oppressed ones. 0:35:57.440 --> 0:36:00.719 He are like the punk rockers of today. Oh my god, 0:36:00.719 --> 0:36:02.680 don't get me started on that one. I think it 0:36:02.719 --> 0:36:04.400 was to Kimmel or Fallon. He was. 0:36:04.480 --> 0:36:06.960 He said being Republican in Hollywood was like being in 0:36:07.040 --> 0:36:14.080 nineteen thirties Germany. Just I mean, what do you say 0:36:14.120 --> 0:36:14.319 to that? 0:36:14.520 --> 0:36:21.120 Right? No, it's not, Tim, It's just such. 0:36:20.920 --> 0:36:24.719 A testament to like, I don't be a late night 0:36:24.800 --> 0:36:28.160 show must suck at least one where you're like under 0:36:28.200 --> 0:36:30.360 mandate to be nice to these people. 0:36:30.560 --> 0:36:36.000 Yes, I can say to that. Okay, Tim, cut to commercial, 0:36:36.120 --> 0:36:43.720 Like what you want to do some karaoke? Tim? Okay, 0:36:45.120 --> 0:36:46.960 Well here, let's let's move on to somebody that I know. 0:36:47.080 --> 0:36:52.200 You love. Kevin Kline. You love Kevin Klin, I love Yeah. 0:36:52.600 --> 0:36:56.760 Kevin Klein was actually original Galaxy Quest writer David Howard's 0:36:56.800 --> 0:37:00.640 first choice to play the Shatner Captain Kirk Anna role 0:37:00.920 --> 0:37:03.680 Jason Nesmith. He would have been great, yeah, and knocked 0:37:03.680 --> 0:37:06.240 it out of the park. He plays in the show 0:37:06.280 --> 0:37:09.920 within the movie, Commander Peter Quincy Taggart, and that is 0:37:09.960 --> 0:37:13.320 a monkey's reference. Actually, wait, so the actor who plays 0:37:13.440 --> 0:37:15.520 the Gouxy Quest captain of the movie, the name is 0:37:15.600 --> 0:37:18.279 Jason Nesmyth. That is a reference to Mike Nest. Yeah, 0:37:18.280 --> 0:37:19.040 they did, they did. 0:37:19.080 --> 0:37:21.800 There's like seventeen layers of name references for most of 0:37:21.840 --> 0:37:25.040 these characters, like Peter Quince. Even the fact that he's 0:37:25.080 --> 0:37:27.640 middle of the fictional character's name is Quincy is a 0:37:27.719 --> 0:37:28.600 reference to something. 0:37:28.719 --> 0:37:33.640 Oh Quin's from Midsummer Night stream right, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, 0:37:33.680 --> 0:37:38.240 but I don't why is it being referenced because it's fun? 0:37:38.640 --> 0:37:41.400 Oh okay, so it's what it's what we called an 0:37:41.440 --> 0:37:44.120 easter egg in the industry. 0:37:44.239 --> 0:37:50.000 Okay, all right, read the trades. God, it's like, you 0:37:50.040 --> 0:37:54.640 don't even know what boffo is. Does the word boffo 0:37:54.760 --> 0:37:59.280 mean nothing to you anymore? I just imagine a very heated, 0:38:00.160 --> 0:38:04.959 uh conversation in the in the variety like masthead room, 0:38:05.480 --> 0:38:07.040 just like when. 0:38:06.840 --> 0:38:10.600 We say something's boffo, that that used to mean something. 0:38:11.520 --> 0:38:18.160 Get out of my newsroom. This is I think maybe 0:38:18.160 --> 0:38:22.360 the fourth episode we referenced boffo. We need it's like 0:38:22.360 --> 0:38:26.320 a sound like a ding or something. People. Yeah, no, 0:38:27.880 --> 0:38:31.319 uh so, okay. Kevin Kline was pretty much everybody's first 0:38:31.400 --> 0:38:34.319 choice for the Tim Allen roll. The original writer David 0:38:34.320 --> 0:38:37.800 Howard wanted it to be Kevin Klin. Original director Harold 0:38:37.880 --> 0:38:40.920 Ramis wanted Kevin Kline or Steve Martin or Alec Baldwin. 0:38:41.960 --> 0:38:47.920 All could actually those are really good, right, possibly a 0:38:47.920 --> 0:38:52.360 better movie. It's part of it is Tim Allen's unlikeability 0:38:52.640 --> 0:38:54.680 works for him in this, which is kind of exactly 0:38:55.640 --> 0:38:57.200 in thirty Rock is the same deal. 0:38:57.680 --> 0:39:01.040 Yeah, yeah, and I mean, uh, wouldn't have been coming 0:39:01.080 --> 0:39:03.759 off Glengarry gunn Ross, but like that was one of 0:39:03.800 --> 0:39:05.479 the things I think he would have like that Hunt 0:39:05.480 --> 0:39:07.600 for Red October would have been like his big things 0:39:07.600 --> 0:39:10.920 at this point when this was getting developed, right, yeah, oh, 0:39:10.960 --> 0:39:12.000 how for Red October I think it. 0:39:12.000 --> 0:39:15.200 Was like ninety and then Glengarry glen Ross I think 0:39:15.239 --> 0:39:17.319 was like ninety three. But yeah, so you're right, mid 0:39:17.400 --> 0:39:22.840 mid nineties. But Disney insisted on Tim Allen, and Harold 0:39:22.920 --> 0:39:25.319 Ramis was so against this that he dropped out of 0:39:25.320 --> 0:39:29.200 the project and directed so much respect yeah I know, 0:39:29.960 --> 0:39:33.440 and director Dean Parasawt took the reins within three weeks. 0:39:34.000 --> 0:39:36.960 Although Harold Ramis later backpeddaled. He admitted that he was 0:39:37.000 --> 0:39:39.399 wrong for dropping out, and so that Tim Allen had 0:39:39.400 --> 0:39:41.680 been great in the part. Tim Allen was great at 0:39:41.719 --> 0:39:44.960 playing a dick was how I choose to read that. 0:39:46.360 --> 0:39:50.319 Tim Allen recalled the frostiness from Harold Ramis in an 0:39:50.360 --> 0:39:52.839 interview with The Hollywood Reporter in twenty nineteen. He said, 0:39:52.880 --> 0:39:55.040 I had a very peculiar lunch with Enemy of This 0:39:55.120 --> 0:39:59.279 Pod Jeffrey Katzenberg and Harold Ramis. Katzenburg pitched me the 0:39:59.280 --> 0:40:02.640 idea of the and her character in Galaxy Quest, and 0:40:02.680 --> 0:40:05.080 then they started talking and it became clear that Ramis 0:40:05.080 --> 0:40:07.879 didn't see me for the part. It was pretty uncomfortable. 0:40:08.920 --> 0:40:11.239 I just can't imagine Harold ram Is being that like 0:40:11.320 --> 0:40:15.640 assertive or petty. But good for him, I guess, oh, 0:40:15.640 --> 0:40:16.960 come on petty. 0:40:17.040 --> 0:40:21.319 Yeah yeah, with his thing with with Bill Murray. Yeah 0:40:21.320 --> 0:40:24.160 that's true, although I mean he was kind of mostly 0:40:24.200 --> 0:40:26.120 the victim in that, I would say, but still. 0:40:27.040 --> 0:40:30.839 Yeah, we don't have to relitigate that now. No, No, 0:40:30.840 --> 0:40:33.920 that's so sad, so so so sad. Check out our 0:40:33.920 --> 0:40:35.920 Groundhog Day episode for more sadness. 0:40:36.080 --> 0:40:41.120 Yeah, yeah, yeah, despite it being very apparent that at 0:40:41.280 --> 0:40:43.719 at least several high ranking members of the production didn't 0:40:43.719 --> 0:40:46.400 want him there. Tim Allen was very jazzed about this 0:40:46.440 --> 0:40:48.440 because he saw the role in Galaxy Quest as a 0:40:48.560 --> 0:40:51.320 prime way for him to break into the sci fi genre, 0:40:52.280 --> 0:40:54.880 and he ultimately chose Galaxy Quest over another movie he 0:40:54.920 --> 0:40:59.320 was up for, bi Centennial Man. He chose wisely. Yeah. 0:40:59.400 --> 0:41:01.360 Robin William went on to star in that. It's the 0:41:01.360 --> 0:41:04.520 one where he's like a household robot who lives for 0:41:04.880 --> 0:41:06.879 and then he opts for mortality. 0:41:07.080 --> 0:41:09.880 He becomes Forrest Gump, right like he basically just like 0:41:09.960 --> 0:41:12.640 lives through hundreds and hundreds of years of US history 0:41:12.680 --> 0:41:14.960 while still maintaining the characteristic twinkle in. 0:41:14.880 --> 0:41:16.600 His eye we all loved so much. But then there's 0:41:16.600 --> 0:41:19.840 in the opt to like die at the end because he's, oh, probably, 0:41:19.920 --> 0:41:23.600 I don't know, because he's just like, life isn't life 0:41:23.680 --> 0:41:27.000 if it's just indefinite something like that. That's a good line. 0:41:27.000 --> 0:41:28.520 Go with that. That's a gry That's a really good line. 0:41:28.520 --> 0:41:30.719 I'm proud of that. I've had a lot. I haven't 0:41:30.760 --> 0:41:32.759 slept much this week's folks, So I'm on like so 0:41:32.880 --> 0:41:35.399 much coffee right now. I've been pitching a lot. I've 0:41:35.400 --> 0:41:39.520 been because as soon as we wrap this, I'm gonna 0:41:39.600 --> 0:41:43.320 desperately try to finish Great Gatsby Part two. Sorry, folks, 0:41:43.560 --> 0:41:45.759 I know, Sorry, it's late. I have the bottleneck. I know. 0:41:45.800 --> 0:41:48.920 I've apologized to several friends of the pod about that, 0:41:49.920 --> 0:41:51.839 to mention that this was a reader request through. 0:41:52.880 --> 0:41:57.600 Yeah, that's right, give us money and we'll consider your 0:41:57.640 --> 0:41:59.919 podcast was a good pitch. 0:42:00.120 --> 0:42:03.600 We've fund a lot of great calls. Yeah, I haven't 0:42:03.600 --> 0:42:05.799 done all of them, so there was a lot of them. 0:42:07.040 --> 0:42:11.200 We'll get to them. Probably. Of his love of science fiction, 0:42:11.400 --> 0:42:16.319 Tim Allen told Starbus magazine, I love science fiction. It's 0:42:16.360 --> 0:42:20.520 my favorite thing, is it. Well, now that Cocaine's off 0:42:20.560 --> 0:42:24.080 the table, maybe wo Galaxy Quest was a baby step 0:42:24.120 --> 0:42:26.239 for me. I like other scripts that are a bit 0:42:26.239 --> 0:42:29.720 more serious, but I'm doing this first. It's really funny 0:42:29.800 --> 0:42:33.520 right up front, then gets more serious technically. It isn't 0:42:33.560 --> 0:42:36.800 what I would want, which would be a Larry Nivens 0:42:36.800 --> 0:42:39.319 sort of thing. I don't know who that is. It 0:42:39.360 --> 0:42:42.359 isn't right on, but it's a Saturday afternoon Star Trek 0:42:42.400 --> 0:42:45.879 Deep Space nine kind of dramatic science fiction. I don't 0:42:45.920 --> 0:42:48.520 know what the Saturday Afternoon thing is I don't know 0:42:49.560 --> 0:42:53.920 that escapes my ken. Accordingly, Tim Allen didn't base his 0:42:54.000 --> 0:42:56.680 performance on anything from science fiction, he said, but I 0:42:56.760 --> 0:42:59.240 was in that captain's chair. I was not mimicking William 0:42:59.280 --> 0:43:03.560 Shatton there with whom I'm now friends because of this movie. 0:43:03.719 --> 0:43:06.040 He told them TV News. But I like the way 0:43:06.160 --> 0:43:09.480 Yule Brenner sat in his throne in The Ten Commandments. 0:43:09.719 --> 0:43:12.760 I worked off that. I studied that well. 0:43:12.840 --> 0:43:16.919 I rented the tape, So, I mean, you know, he's 0:43:17.480 --> 0:43:19.799 some of his quotes are funny and self effacing, but 0:43:20.280 --> 0:43:23.000 I also do believe that he uh, that's what that 0:43:23.120 --> 0:43:24.759 was the sole bit of research he did for this. 0:43:25.000 --> 0:43:27.719 It's funny hearing him position himself as a sci fi 0:43:27.760 --> 0:43:31.120 fan when like the closest he'd done was buzz light Year. 0:43:31.920 --> 0:43:34.160 No, that was later, Oh no, you're right, ninety five 0:43:34.280 --> 0:43:38.040 was Toy Story, right, Yeah? Yeah, So I don't know, 0:43:38.320 --> 0:43:40.319 why were you lying about that, Tim app Why would 0:43:40.320 --> 0:43:41.280 you lie? Tim Allan? 0:43:41.400 --> 0:43:46.400 In Hollywood, of all places, Alan was his usual self 0:43:46.440 --> 0:43:49.439 On the set. He annoyed Sigourney Weaver constantly to sign 0:43:49.520 --> 0:43:51.759 some piece of the alien set, to the point where 0:43:51.880 --> 0:43:54.400 when she actually did it she signed it stolen by 0:43:54.440 --> 0:43:56.319 Tim Allen love Sigourney Weaver. 0:43:56.920 --> 0:43:59.640 He was so upset. Weaver recalled he said, why would 0:43:59.680 --> 0:44:00.520 you write that? 0:44:00.800 --> 0:44:03.319 I was gonna put it my screening room, ah, which 0:44:03.400 --> 0:44:07.320 was such a Hollywood thing to say. In the Oral History, 0:44:07.360 --> 0:44:10.760 Allen's next comment is, she never asked me to sign anything. 0:44:11.080 --> 0:44:15.319 She doesn't care. And it just continues. The cas went 0:44:15.320 --> 0:44:18.080 to a twentieth anniversary screening of Alien, and when Sagourney 0:44:18.120 --> 0:44:20.040 Weaver is stripped down to a bronz panties in the 0:44:20.040 --> 0:44:23.120 final scene, Tim Allan yelled yeah baby in the theater, 0:44:23.600 --> 0:44:26.959 to which Sam Rockwell recalled in the Oral History, Tim 0:44:27.040 --> 0:44:31.640 really liked saying yeah baby. Case in point, Justin Long 0:44:31.680 --> 0:44:34.360 went to see Deep Blue Sea with Tim Allen, Sam Rockwell, 0:44:34.400 --> 0:44:37.120 and Philip Seymour Hoffman, in which was must have been 0:44:37.160 --> 0:44:41.520 just a delightful evening, Sons, Tim Allen, And when Samuel 0:44:41.800 --> 0:44:45.959 Jackson's character dies in that film spoilers, Justin Long said 0:44:46.120 --> 0:44:50.040 Tim went into a whole routine in the theater. Also 0:44:50.120 --> 0:44:53.000 from Tim Allen himself, I was really rude to Justin 0:44:53.080 --> 0:44:57.880 Long when I first met him. Pretty much everyone remembers 0:44:57.880 --> 0:45:01.320 Alan not really having an off button on. Tony Shallhoub 0:45:01.400 --> 0:45:04.799 dryly noted a lot of fart jokes with Tim. Some 0:45:04.840 --> 0:45:10.040 weren't jokes, some were actually farts. But the person Alan. 0:45:09.880 --> 0:45:11.160 Off in the middle distance. 0:45:11.360 --> 0:45:14.200 Yeah, The person that Alan rankled the most was the 0:45:14.280 --> 0:45:16.120 dear departed Alan Rickman. 0:45:16.239 --> 0:45:18.040 Oh, that's unforgivable. It is. 0:45:18.560 --> 0:45:20.480 Tim Allen used to kick the door open to the 0:45:20.480 --> 0:45:23.600 makeup trailer. He wrote in his now published diary. We 0:45:23.600 --> 0:45:25.920 would all be lined up and he would say number 0:45:25.920 --> 0:45:29.840 one is here. Sam Rockwell confirmed this MTV. If the 0:45:29.920 --> 0:45:32.960 chairs were taken, Tim would shout, that's fine, I'm first 0:45:32.960 --> 0:45:34.680 on the call sheet, but I'll go take a walk 0:45:34.680 --> 0:45:37.640 and come back when you're ready. However, the most famous 0:45:37.719 --> 0:45:40.399 quote concerning Tim Allen in Alan Rickman's diary is this, 0:45:41.160 --> 0:45:46.840 Tim Allen has this perverse need to needle, antagonize, provoke, demoralize, 0:45:47.160 --> 0:45:51.000 takes every opportunity to belittle. That's a nice thing to 0:45:51.040 --> 0:45:55.440 write about someone. Darryl Chill Mitchell, who played the ship's pilot, 0:45:55.480 --> 0:45:57.799 told the Hollywood Reporter Tim would go on a ten 0:45:57.840 --> 0:45:59.719 minute rant, and I would look at Alan Rickman and 0:45:59.760 --> 0:46:02.400 God bless him. He was by the letter. Even though 0:46:02.440 --> 0:46:04.560 it was a comedy. Alan Rickman approached that movie like 0:46:04.560 --> 0:46:05.320 any drama. 0:46:05.520 --> 0:46:07.160 That's where the best comedy comes from. 0:46:08.400 --> 0:46:11.200 Peter do that too, playing it straight. Michael Caine him 0:46:11.280 --> 0:46:12.120 up at Christmas Carol. 0:46:12.360 --> 0:46:16.160 Yeah, oh well no, that's too far. Hurt But it's 0:46:16.200 --> 0:46:19.239 not funny. I mean, it's that just hurts. But he 0:46:19.360 --> 0:46:22.239 played it straight, and that's what's so great. Well yeah, 0:46:22.280 --> 0:46:25.360 but no, But but comedy is funny when the person 0:46:25.400 --> 0:46:28.320 all the stuff's happening to is like treating it very seriously. 0:46:28.360 --> 0:46:31.279 It's Steve Martin, It's Peter Sellers as in SPECTACLEU. So no, 0:46:31.400 --> 0:46:34.439 Michael Kin and him up as Christmas Carol is just devastating. 0:46:34.880 --> 0:46:39.560 Well yeah, I mean it's Michael Kaine when he goes. 0:46:40.160 --> 0:46:43.200 I live in constant because because you very sweetly gave 0:46:43.239 --> 0:46:45.560 me one of my prize possessions, which is a signed 0:46:45.560 --> 0:46:47.480 it by ten glossy of Michael Kaine, which is on 0:46:47.520 --> 0:46:49.360 the front door to my apartment. So every time I 0:46:49.600 --> 0:46:52.640 come and go, I see it, and I'm confronted every 0:46:52.680 --> 0:46:55.759 day with the thought of I'm confronting Michael Kaine's mortality 0:46:55.800 --> 0:46:56.279 every day. 0:46:57.280 --> 0:47:00.320 It bothers me. I'm sorry speaking me. I feel a 0:47:00.360 --> 0:47:01.600 lot of feelings I don't. 0:47:01.400 --> 0:47:07.239 Like like them up. It's Christmas, Carol, after all, there's 0:47:07.320 --> 0:47:11.800 only one more sleep till Christmas. Bay, there's your Kermit. 0:47:12.120 --> 0:47:16.600 That's not bad. Nice. It's Stewie the other night. Yeah, 0:47:16.840 --> 0:47:19.560 come talk to me sometimes, sweetheart. I know what it 0:47:19.640 --> 0:47:22.480 takes to be cool. Sleep deprivation looks good on you. 0:47:23.000 --> 0:47:26.360 That's a lot of caffeine. I actually feel like happier 0:47:26.400 --> 0:47:30.520 and more powerful than I have in the months sexually. 0:47:30.600 --> 0:47:35.160 So Mitchell continued. They would call action four times and 0:47:35.200 --> 0:47:37.239 we didn't hear because we were laughing so hard, and 0:47:37.280 --> 0:47:40.680 Alan would be looking at us like really, man, Tim 0:47:40.680 --> 0:47:42.440 and I would do this dumb thing where we'd just 0:47:42.480 --> 0:47:45.960 say I am Spartacus all the time, Mitchell continued. One 0:47:46.040 --> 0:47:49.560 day out of nowhere, Alan Rickman went Spartacus and we 0:47:49.600 --> 0:47:52.239 all laughed big time. But then Tim went for another 0:47:52.280 --> 0:47:54.400 ten minutes, and you could tell that Alan was regretting 0:47:54.400 --> 0:47:55.080 that choice. 0:47:55.440 --> 0:47:58.120 God like just such a fee. Moments like this, you 0:47:58.200 --> 0:48:00.520 remember that he got his start and stand because he 0:48:00.600 --> 0:48:01.680 just always. 0:48:01.280 --> 0:48:05.800 Has to like top it, yep, yep, the desperate, sad 0:48:05.880 --> 0:48:10.440 thirst of a stand up comedian. Obviously, Rickman is not around, 0:48:10.800 --> 0:48:13.000 having died in twenty sixteen to give his side of this, 0:48:13.120 --> 0:48:15.000 but he was enough of a professional that he never 0:48:15.080 --> 0:48:18.160 really said anything about Alan in public, and according to 0:48:18.200 --> 0:48:23.279 Alan anyway, apologized for his standoffishness. Alan wrote in The 0:48:23.320 --> 0:48:26.279 Hollwood Reporter when Rickman died, I don't think Alan liked 0:48:26.280 --> 0:48:28.640 me all that much. When we first started shooting Galaxy Quest, 0:48:28.880 --> 0:48:31.799 I was a stage performer, a concert comic, and I 0:48:31.840 --> 0:48:34.600 was coming into this group of very polished lesbians, Sigourney 0:48:34.640 --> 0:48:37.080 Weaver and Sam Rockwell and Tony Shelhube and then Alan 0:48:37.120 --> 0:48:40.240 adding his English roots. All of them had this process 0:48:40.239 --> 0:48:42.440 and method, voice stretching and all that kind of prep, 0:48:42.520 --> 0:48:44.759 and it was so different from mine. I was doing 0:48:44.800 --> 0:48:48.600 Penis jokes right up to action. That's a tremendous Pool quote. 0:48:49.000 --> 0:48:51.000 But then one day on set Alan came to me 0:48:51.000 --> 0:48:53.960 and apologized. He said he mistook my behavior for lack 0:48:54.000 --> 0:48:54.520 of commitment. 0:48:54.719 --> 0:48:59.120 I just want to say, Hi, Tim, this actor you 0:48:59.160 --> 0:49:02.400 worked with dog, what are some memories and thoughts you 0:49:02.480 --> 0:49:04.879 have of working with them? He was not that great 0:49:04.920 --> 0:49:08.040 to me, and then apologized, Yeah, like I'm gonna use it. 0:49:08.080 --> 0:49:10.440 I'm gonna use the death of this beloved actor to 0:49:10.480 --> 0:49:12.279 sanitize my own reputation. 0:49:12.760 --> 0:49:14.280 Real class act there, Timmy. 0:49:15.040 --> 0:49:18.280 Anyway, I'm gonna close with one of my absolute favorite 0:49:18.440 --> 0:49:20.280 Alan Rickman stories of all time. 0:49:20.440 --> 0:49:23.040 Yeah uh. Director Dean Parasot recalled. 0:49:22.719 --> 0:49:25.799 That after one emotional take, he said, quote, I turned 0:49:25.880 --> 0:49:29.680 back and Tim is just completely emotional. He says, yeah, 0:49:29.760 --> 0:49:31.919 I don't. I don't like these feelings I'm having. I'd 0:49:31.920 --> 0:49:34.920 like to go back to the trailer. And Alan Rickman said, 0:49:35.320 --> 0:49:38.080 Oh my god, I think you just experienced acting. 0:49:41.760 --> 0:49:42.680 That's incredible. 0:49:43.760 --> 0:49:46.279 Oh man, man, I think you just experienced I don't 0:49:46.280 --> 0:49:47.440 like these feelings I'm having. 0:49:47.520 --> 0:49:55.520 I'd like to come out Dullard. Oh God love him. 0:49:55.960 --> 0:49:58.200 We're gonna take a quick break, but we'll be right 0:49:58.239 --> 0:50:12.399 back with more too much information in just a moment. Wow, 0:50:18.760 --> 0:50:22.799 Harold Ramis had already established a dictat. You write, what 0:50:22.920 --> 0:50:27.120 is a dictat? Like an edict or an edict? Okay, 0:50:27.960 --> 0:50:30.839 Harold Ramis had already established an edict that, in order 0:50:30.880 --> 0:50:34.000 to be considered for Galaxy Quest, actors couldn't have started 0:50:34.120 --> 0:50:36.839 anything sci fi or fantasy related up to that point. 0:50:36.920 --> 0:50:41.440 I like that. But but Sigourney Weaver, she told Starbarus 0:50:41.440 --> 0:50:44.120 magazine in two thousand. I had heard about this movie 0:50:44.360 --> 0:50:46.759 and I asked my agent about it. He told me 0:50:46.800 --> 0:50:49.120 that they didn't want anyone from science fiction in the movie, 0:50:49.280 --> 0:50:53.720 only science fiction virgins, as it were. I said, that's silly, 0:50:53.800 --> 0:50:57.799 because if anyone can spoof science fiction, surely it's me. Then, 0:50:57.840 --> 0:51:00.839 to my surprise, I was offered the part. I love 0:51:00.840 --> 0:51:02.719 Sigourney Weaver. You know she There's a footage of her 0:51:02.760 --> 0:51:04.520 as like a twelve year old Beatles fan in the 0:51:04.560 --> 0:51:07.640 crowd at the Beatles Hollywood Bowl concert in nineteen sixty four. 0:51:08.440 --> 0:51:10.160 I love her for other reasons too, but I especially 0:51:10.239 --> 0:51:13.239 love that there's your Beatles reference for the episode of 0:51:13.280 --> 0:51:21.000 Folksing Boffo is now rivaling Beatles for references in The Lord. Yeah. Yeah, 0:51:21.680 --> 0:51:25.520 Sigourney Weaver played the actress Gwen DeMarco in the movie. 0:51:25.960 --> 0:51:31.319 In the movie, and DeMarco plays Lieutenant Tawny Madison in 0:51:31.440 --> 0:51:34.960 the show within a show Galaxy Quest, and it's a 0:51:35.040 --> 0:51:38.600 movie long riff on women's underserved role in the sci 0:51:38.640 --> 0:51:39.320 fi genre. 0:51:39.520 --> 0:51:42.560 Yeah, there's a nod to that when Weaver as Gwen 0:51:42.800 --> 0:51:46.160 lampshades the fact that her character basically just repeats information 0:51:46.239 --> 0:51:49.600 that the computer already spits out a protracted gag for 0:51:49.680 --> 0:51:53.840 the computers, just saying things, and she just goes it's malfunctioning, 0:51:55.960 --> 0:51:58.440 and she's, look, I have one job in this lousy ship. 0:51:58.480 --> 0:52:03.120 It's stupid, but I'm gonna do it. We've were elaborated 0:52:03.160 --> 0:52:07.920 to MTV News explaining it's funny considering my backgrounds, you know, 0:52:08.120 --> 0:52:11.320 Alien and everything. But I was never into science fiction. 0:52:11.800 --> 0:52:13.880 I like the Twilight Zone. That's about as close as 0:52:13.920 --> 0:52:16.960 I got. I thought Flash Gordon was stupid. I think 0:52:17.000 --> 0:52:19.480 Star Trek happened and I missed it. I was in 0:52:19.520 --> 0:52:22.279 the theater, and then suddenly I did Alien. Suddenly I 0:52:22.320 --> 0:52:25.240 was straddling two very different worlds. But I just felt 0:52:25.239 --> 0:52:27.719 Galaxy Quest as a comedy with such a love letter 0:52:27.800 --> 0:52:30.600 to all the insecure actors in the field who had 0:52:30.600 --> 0:52:34.440 done so many wonderful and somewhat underappreciated projects. You know, 0:52:34.560 --> 0:52:37.080 that's really what this is about. It's a movie about 0:52:37.200 --> 0:52:41.360 actors who are worried what what their legacy. 0:52:41.080 --> 0:52:45.359 Is and fans. I mean, really appreciate thing about this 0:52:45.400 --> 0:52:49.640 movie is that it hits like this crazy intersection of 0:52:50.960 --> 0:52:54.200 actor and fan that was like in place with the Trickies, 0:52:54.239 --> 0:52:58.760 but just there's no like the whole I mean whatever, 0:52:58.960 --> 0:53:02.160 I'll get to it in the end. Shut up, shut up, 0:53:02.200 --> 0:53:06.200 all of you. Let me breathe for just a second. 0:53:07.520 --> 0:53:10.840 Night after night up here, up and down the court, 0:53:11.040 --> 0:53:12.360 carrying your ass. 0:53:12.960 --> 0:53:17.320 So the character's blonde wig and prominent cleavage were Weavers choices. 0:53:17.719 --> 0:53:19.600 The first thing I said to Dean was that Lieutenant 0:53:19.640 --> 0:53:21.680 Tawny Madison had to be blonde and she had to 0:53:21.680 --> 0:53:25.360 have big boobs. Ever, totally Hollywood reporter. I love Tawny 0:53:25.400 --> 0:53:27.440 from the first moment I read the part. To me, 0:53:27.560 --> 0:53:29.840 she was what a lot of women feel like, including myself, 0:53:29.920 --> 0:53:32.840 in a Hollywood situation. There's a couple of things that 0:53:32.880 --> 0:53:35.799 might have gone into the conception of this character. One 0:53:35.920 --> 0:53:39.359 is Aaron Gray, who played Colonel Wilma Deering in these 0:53:39.400 --> 0:53:42.320 short lived buck Rogers in the twenty fifth century series 0:53:42.360 --> 0:53:44.880 from like the late seventies. I think she later went 0:53:44.920 --> 0:53:46.759 on to be in Silver Spoons, but she was a 0:53:46.840 --> 0:53:49.200 natural burnette who has dyed to a blonde in the show, 0:53:49.480 --> 0:53:52.120 and she was often clad in skin tight uniforms. 0:53:52.520 --> 0:53:58.120 I think Actually, let me check one second, because when 0:53:58.160 --> 0:54:02.560 did Deep Space nine start? Ooh, I want to say 0:54:02.640 --> 0:54:06.120 ninety four it'll be amazing if I got that ninety 0:54:06.120 --> 0:54:10.120 three to ninety Oh it ended in nineteen ninety nine. 0:54:10.480 --> 0:54:15.520 So what's her name? Seven of nine? Jerry Ryan. Yeah, 0:54:15.680 --> 0:54:18.400 she was not in this. Wait, she might have been 0:54:18.400 --> 0:54:20.520 a voyager, So this is we're having a trecky father. 0:54:20.600 --> 0:54:24.239 I'm pretty sure. Yeah, Jerry Ryan is a voyager. So yeah, 0:54:24.320 --> 0:54:26.680 nine the character seven and nine as a voyager, right. 0:54:26.880 --> 0:54:30.040 So yeah, I think it's either the Buck Rogers riff 0:54:30.200 --> 0:54:33.560 or it's on about it's kind of on Jerry Ryan, 0:54:33.680 --> 0:54:37.560 who had been in Star Trek Voyager for two years 0:54:37.560 --> 0:54:41.600 at this point, ninety seven that launched. There's a reference 0:54:41.640 --> 0:54:44.520 for Sigourney Reaver when she goes. My TV Guide interview 0:54:44.600 --> 0:54:46.960 was forty minutes about asking how my boobs fit into 0:54:47.000 --> 0:54:50.120 this costume? And I will point out at one point 0:54:50.200 --> 0:54:54.200 that Scarlett Johansson in one of the like an Avengers interview, 0:54:54.400 --> 0:54:57.520 was like asked about like, oh, what exercises did you 0:54:57.560 --> 0:54:59.600 do to fit into the suit, and she's like she 0:54:59.640 --> 0:55:01.799 pointed caught out the journey. She was like, you asked 0:55:01.800 --> 0:55:04.480 them about their character preparation and like what they what 0:55:04.480 --> 0:55:06.200 they enjoyed about this, and you asked me about my 0:55:06.280 --> 0:55:09.799 suit anyway. I think that line could also be a 0:55:09.840 --> 0:55:13.480 reference to like, I believe there was an interview where 0:55:13.560 --> 0:55:16.440 Jerry Ryan like the interview was just very creepily asking about, like, 0:55:16.520 --> 0:55:20.600 how did she fit in the suit anyway. H Weaver 0:55:20.640 --> 0:55:23.600 would often leave the set still wearing her prosthetic breasts 0:55:23.600 --> 0:55:27.840 and blonde wig. Sam Rockwell said Sigourney changed with that wig, 0:55:28.040 --> 0:55:30.840 and Rickman added I remember Sigourney walking around saying she 0:55:30.920 --> 0:55:33.640 was experience a whole new world with the blonde wig. 0:55:33.920 --> 0:55:36.960 We were confirmed that to MTV, saying blondes definitely have 0:55:37.040 --> 0:55:40.080 more fun. I loved being a starlet. I miss my breasts, 0:55:40.280 --> 0:55:43.759 I missed my blonde hair, I missed my insecurity. And 0:55:43.800 --> 0:55:45.560 she kept the wig after filming wrapped. 0:55:46.200 --> 0:55:52.560 Huh. That's an interesting insight into Sigournny reavers Psyche. Yeah, 0:55:53.080 --> 0:55:55.960 we got to talk more about dear Sweet Alan Rickman, 0:55:56.120 --> 0:56:00.200 who plays the actor Alexander Dane, a serious thesb in 0:56:00.480 --> 0:56:03.960 a Man of the theater. Huh. Trapped in the role 0:56:04.000 --> 0:56:09.080 of doctor Lazarus, the film's spock stand in. We'll get 0:56:09.080 --> 0:56:12.840 into how productions strenuously avoided any possible grounds for legal 0:56:12.880 --> 0:56:16.200 action by star Trek A little later on Rick mattld 0:56:16.280 --> 0:56:19.560 MTV about his role. There were all these different layers 0:56:19.560 --> 0:56:22.879 with these characters. It's such a great acting challenge. You're 0:56:22.920 --> 0:56:25.640 only as good as the script. Though. Really he did 0:56:25.719 --> 0:56:28.080 mention on the DVD commentary about the film that quote, 0:56:28.120 --> 0:56:30.480 I did grow up, as it were, inside the Royal 0:56:30.520 --> 0:56:33.799 Shakespeare Company and other similar environments, so I know what 0:56:33.880 --> 0:56:36.720 my character was going through on some level. I remember 0:56:36.719 --> 0:56:38.840 when Sigourney and I were sitting at the autograph table 0:56:38.880 --> 0:56:41.400 the convention and saying this is a bit too close 0:56:41.480 --> 0:56:44.719 for comfort. There were constant images and moments where you 0:56:44.840 --> 0:56:48.239 just sort of thought, I have lived this. Funnily enough, 0:56:48.480 --> 0:56:51.000 Rickman saw that his character had made a night in 0:56:51.080 --> 0:56:52.920 the script, or an early version of the script, i 0:56:52.920 --> 0:56:56.080 should say, and he felt that that rang false, which 0:56:56.160 --> 0:56:58.400 is why it's not mentioned in the film, though it 0:56:58.440 --> 0:57:02.080 appears in the final credits. It's a testament to his 0:57:02.120 --> 0:57:06.879 commitment that one of the film's defining lines, by gabthers 0:57:06.960 --> 0:57:11.960 hammer grab thar excuse me by grab thars hammer was 0:57:12.000 --> 0:57:15.280 originally a temp line, just a dumb riff on Thor's hammer, 0:57:15.760 --> 0:57:18.880 but apparently he just committed so hard to the bit 0:57:19.000 --> 0:57:22.280 and it absolutely killed the table reads and by the 0:57:22.280 --> 0:57:24.600 time the crew had made homemade T shirts with the 0:57:24.680 --> 0:57:26.960 line it was too late to make a change. 0:57:27.080 --> 0:57:29.479 That's when you know something's locked in when the crew 0:57:29.560 --> 0:57:32.400 is made there, when they made the cruise shirts. 0:57:32.280 --> 0:57:34.760 That's all. I'd love a coffee table book on like 0:57:35.000 --> 0:57:37.439 cruise shirts from famous movies. That'd be great. 0:57:37.720 --> 0:57:39.400 Yeah, I mean, I think the most famous one is 0:57:39.440 --> 0:57:42.120 the is the Alien one or a blade Runner or 0:57:42.120 --> 0:57:44.920 Alien blade Runner? Yeah, the Blade Runner and the American 0:57:44.960 --> 0:57:50.440 crew was in open revolt against Redley Scott. The famous 0:57:50.520 --> 0:57:54.040 Yes Governor T shirts inspired by an interview where really 0:57:54.120 --> 0:57:57.040 Scott described the difference between working with Americans and working 0:57:57.040 --> 0:58:00.160 with British people wise just the British will often and 0:58:00.240 --> 0:58:05.000 just accept directives with yes Govna that story. 0:58:05.120 --> 0:58:08.080 We told that story him probably like fifty percent of 0:58:08.160 --> 0:58:10.880 the TI episodes. I love it so dearly. 0:58:12.840 --> 0:58:14.840 There were a couple of rehearsals where we rewrote some 0:58:14.880 --> 0:58:16.840 things sitting around the table, Sam Rockwell said to the 0:58:16.840 --> 0:58:19.640 Hollywood reporter Alan Rickman was very instrumental in making sure 0:58:19.680 --> 0:58:21.880 the script hit the right dramatic notes. Everything had a 0:58:21.920 --> 0:58:24.480 strong logic and reason behind it. He wanted the grab 0:58:24.520 --> 0:58:26.720 Thar's hammer moment to be set up perfectly so it 0:58:26.760 --> 0:58:28.840 had a motion when he delivered it to Patrick Breen, 0:58:28.880 --> 0:58:32.280 who was a fantastic actor. Rickman even worked with iconic 0:58:32.400 --> 0:58:35.440 effects and makeup wizard Stan Winston on his character's prosthetic 0:58:35.480 --> 0:58:39.080 head cap that he wears constantly. He said, I thought 0:58:39.120 --> 0:58:41.040 it was important to be good enough to convince the 0:58:41.040 --> 0:58:43.920 aliens who believed were the real thing, Rickman told Starburst, 0:58:44.280 --> 0:58:46.240 but also cheesy enough to imagine that it was something 0:58:46.280 --> 0:58:49.880 he applied himself a good So when we were watching this, 0:58:49.920 --> 0:58:52.000 Low was like, why would he keep it on overnight? 0:58:52.200 --> 0:58:54.680 And that was actually something that Alan Rickman said. He 0:58:54.720 --> 0:58:57.720 was like, he reasoned that this character, that this actor 0:58:57.800 --> 0:58:59.920 would like not want to reapply it two days in 0:59:00.120 --> 0:59:02.520 a row, and since they had two back to back appearances, 0:59:02.520 --> 0:59:05.000 one at the convention and one at the store opening, 0:59:05.400 --> 0:59:07.240 that he would have just kept it all overnight. 0:59:09.560 --> 0:59:14.560 Great stuff. Yes, speaking of catchphrases, the never give Up, 0:59:14.760 --> 0:59:18.880 Never Surrender was writer Robert Gordon's work. He's the second 0:59:18.920 --> 0:59:21.320 guy who came on to write the script. He said 0:59:21.320 --> 0:59:24.360 it came from Winston Churchill via a super Tramp song 0:59:24.720 --> 0:59:28.000 because I was a huge super tramp fan, which is 0:59:28.040 --> 0:59:32.600 not something you hear being admitted as such. Nope, I mean, 0:59:32.680 --> 0:59:34.360 there's all. It's also the one that I remember it 0:59:34.440 --> 0:59:35.800 from is it's in uh. 0:59:36.400 --> 0:59:38.760 I think Iron Maiden uses that speech that we shall 0:59:38.760 --> 0:59:42.320 fight them on the beaches in as like a live 0:59:42.360 --> 0:59:47.000 introt to Aces High, which is one of their best songs. 0:59:47.560 --> 0:59:51.960 It's in a Kink song on Arthur the Rise and 0:59:52.000 --> 0:59:55.200 Fall of the Decline and Fall the British Empire. Mister 0:59:55.280 --> 0:59:58.640 Churchill says, I think the para we shall fight them 0:59:58.680 --> 1:00:01.440 on the beach is never on the course of human conflict. 1:00:01.480 --> 1:00:04.160 Has so much been owed to so few, And we'll 1:00:04.160 --> 1:00:06.840 make our British Empire a greater place for me and you, 1:00:06.960 --> 1:00:10.800 and this is our finest hour something like that narrator voice. 1:00:10.840 --> 1:00:13.280 It did not, it was not. Yeah, the sun eventually 1:00:13.320 --> 1:00:17.800 set on the British Empire after a long, painful decline. 1:00:18.480 --> 1:00:20.280 I love the British I know you. 1:00:20.240 --> 1:00:23.120 Do, I mean, but it is funny like I mean, 1:00:23.400 --> 1:00:27.000 you know, they were devastated by World War Two and 1:00:27.040 --> 1:00:30.439 then went into a protracted depression so. 1:00:30.560 --> 1:00:35.400 Like from which they've not really emerged. Yeah. So Churchill 1:00:35.560 --> 1:00:36.000 was wrong. 1:00:36.640 --> 1:00:41.600 Not the first time I've said that unsurprisingly, Yeah, well 1:00:41.640 --> 1:00:43.959 you know what, Winston, You're dead, so it's gonna say 1:00:44.320 --> 1:00:46.240 checkmate me my favorite. 1:00:46.320 --> 1:00:49.280 We talked about the in one of the many episodes 1:00:49.360 --> 1:00:51.200 talked about Orson Wells. Did I ever tell you that 1:00:51.200 --> 1:00:54.240 the Orson Wells Winston Churchill story, I don't think so. No. 1:00:54.320 --> 1:00:56.960 I love this is very cute. So Orson Wills for 1:00:57.080 --> 1:00:59.720 reasons that I really sort of don't remember. As a 1:00:59.800 --> 1:01:02.520 very young man ran in I think as he was 1:01:02.520 --> 1:01:06.320 such a respected man of the theater that he ran 1:01:06.360 --> 1:01:09.560 in circles of like incredibly powerful men, one of whom 1:01:09.640 --> 1:01:12.600 was Winston Churchill. And I think Churchill had seen him 1:01:13.360 --> 1:01:16.760 act in one of the many Shakespearean plays he was in, 1:01:16.840 --> 1:01:19.880 and he Churchill came backstage and visited him, and they 1:01:19.920 --> 1:01:23.360 were a little better than nodding level acquaintances, but they 1:01:23.360 --> 1:01:25.880 weren't friends, but they were, you know. And so in 1:01:25.920 --> 1:01:29.120 the fifties, when Orson Wells was kind of on the 1:01:29.120 --> 1:01:32.320 outs with the studios and was really struggling to get 1:01:32.320 --> 1:01:37.000 his projects made, he was like having to go court 1:01:37.320 --> 1:01:40.720 wealthy businessman himself to try to raise money for these projects. 1:01:41.280 --> 1:01:45.720 And he was taking some kind of Russian oligarch to 1:01:47.440 --> 1:01:51.640 a white Russian, as he would make the distinction to 1:01:52.080 --> 1:01:55.920 a white meaning not red like white meaning like Azaris Russian, 1:01:56.440 --> 1:01:59.880 not a communist. And it took him to lunch and 1:02:00.120 --> 1:02:02.600 Churchill happened to be there, and so they walked in 1:02:02.880 --> 1:02:07.959 Warson Wells with this Russian guy and Churchill like yeah, 1:02:08.000 --> 1:02:11.400 and the Russian guy flipped out and I was like, 1:02:11.480 --> 1:02:14.600 oh my god. You know Churchill acknowledged you, and oh 1:02:14.600 --> 1:02:19.040 my goodness, you are clearly a man. Yeah. And so 1:02:19.440 --> 1:02:23.000 the next day whatever resort they were staying at, Orson 1:02:23.000 --> 1:02:25.960 Wells was swimming in the water in the surf and 1:02:26.080 --> 1:02:28.760 Churchill happens to be swimming nearby, so he swims over 1:02:28.800 --> 1:02:32.360 to Doggie paddles over to Winston Churchill. He's an enormous man, 1:02:32.640 --> 1:02:37.560 bobbing bobbing, and or someone else goes, you know, mister Churchill, 1:02:37.600 --> 1:02:40.320 I just want you to know what you did for me. 1:02:40.480 --> 1:02:43.440 That was really helpful, and he kind of explained. And 1:02:43.520 --> 1:02:47.600 then the next day Orson walks back into the restaurant 1:02:47.680 --> 1:02:50.120 with another guy that he's trying to get to give 1:02:50.160 --> 1:02:53.680 him money, and Winston Churchill was also there, and Churchill 1:02:53.720 --> 1:02:57.840 sees Orson walk in with this financier, and Churchill stands 1:02:57.920 --> 1:03:05.840 up and just does a deep bow. That's got his money. Yeah, 1:03:05.960 --> 1:03:06.440 that's uh. 1:03:06.880 --> 1:03:09.080 I mean my favorite calling someone over to the table 1:03:09.280 --> 1:03:12.760 story of all time is Frank Sinatra and Don Rickles. 1:03:13.000 --> 1:03:18.120 Yes, yes, and I told that before. Okay, no, please 1:03:18.160 --> 1:03:21.880 tell so Rickles, Uh, Rickles is that doing? You know? 1:03:22.000 --> 1:03:23.840 He and Frank knew each other from just doing these 1:03:23.880 --> 1:03:27.680 these the Vegas Hotel and the Vegas gigs. So he 1:03:27.800 --> 1:03:30.760 at one point, uh knows that Frank is going to 1:03:30.800 --> 1:03:32.680 be at the same restaurant with him or whatever, and 1:03:32.680 --> 1:03:34.240 he's like, Frank, you know I could I got these 1:03:34.280 --> 1:03:36.120 two girls with me and and and it would be 1:03:36.160 --> 1:03:38.880 a you know, you would be doing me a favor 1:03:38.880 --> 1:03:41.000 if you could come over and say hi to the table, 1:03:41.200 --> 1:03:42.720 you know, and and and that would really go a 1:03:42.720 --> 1:03:46.120 long way for me. And Frank, eager to oblige him, 1:03:46.800 --> 1:03:50.000 later on, approaches the table and he goes to, you know, 1:03:50.080 --> 1:03:52.440 introduce himself, like, I'm Frank Sinatra. By the way, you know, 1:03:52.520 --> 1:03:54.360 Don Rickles is a great friend of mine. And before 1:03:54.400 --> 1:03:56.600 he gets a word out, Don rickleses not now, Frank, 1:03:56.640 --> 1:04:06.920 please meeting I classic bit great stuff. Great Stuff's Quest 1:04:06.920 --> 1:04:11.160 has a deep bench of ensemble actors. Hube auditioned for 1:04:11.200 --> 1:04:13.120 the role that eventually went to Sam Rockwell, and we 1:04:13.160 --> 1:04:15.240 will get to Sam, but he was cast as Fred 1:04:15.320 --> 1:04:19.920 Kwan actor Fred Kwan, and Sloop called parasot, I'm not 1:04:19.960 --> 1:04:22.120 going to play an Asian guy, but I got I'll 1:04:22.160 --> 1:04:25.680 play a guy that plays an Asian And so the 1:04:25.800 --> 1:04:28.640 role evolved into a riff on late not enthusiast David 1:04:28.720 --> 1:04:31.920 Carradine's role in Kung Fu and the mid century habit 1:04:31.960 --> 1:04:34.480 of casting white dudes to play characters of Asian descent. 1:04:34.840 --> 1:04:37.880 Who else is in that white dudes playing guys of 1:04:37.880 --> 1:04:38.440 Asian descent? 1:04:38.520 --> 1:04:43.440 Well, Peter Sellers, Peter Sellers, Mickey Rooney and Breakfast Tiffany's. 1:04:43.480 --> 1:04:47.480 Also famously, Genghis Khan was played by John Wayne and 1:04:47.560 --> 1:04:48.400 yellow Face. 1:04:49.080 --> 1:04:53.080 And wasn't there a Marlon Brando movie that was a 1:04:53.120 --> 1:04:54.840 Mexican movie? Well? 1:04:55.000 --> 1:04:56.880 Yeah, I mean it's actually funny bringing up Hoarson Welles 1:04:56.920 --> 1:05:00.760 because you know, famously Charlton Heston in brown Face in 1:05:00.880 --> 1:05:04.919 Touch of Evil, right, right, And it's really funny because 1:05:04.920 --> 1:05:08.640 I was actually I did not connect these thoughts previously, 1:05:08.680 --> 1:05:10.840 but I'm going to there's a there's a restoration of 1:05:10.880 --> 1:05:13.280 Touch of Evil that I'm going to next week. And 1:05:14.120 --> 1:05:18.400 in just like googling around, do you remember Robert Rodriguez 1:05:18.520 --> 1:05:19.760 once upon a Time in Mexico? 1:05:21.160 --> 1:05:23.200 No, I mean I know of it that I don't. 1:05:23.320 --> 1:05:27.000 Yeah, yeah, So Willem Dafoe is in that movie as 1:05:27.080 --> 1:05:30.480 like a cartel leader, and he is in brown face, 1:05:30.560 --> 1:05:33.520 and I want to say, it's a nod to Charton 1:05:33.560 --> 1:05:36.240 Heston's brown face because they look almost at He gave 1:05:36.280 --> 1:05:39.320 him the same mustache and they look almost identical. 1:05:40.440 --> 1:05:42.080 Yes, Hollywood, super racist. 1:05:42.560 --> 1:05:47.560 Anyway, Tony brought up David Carridine and Kung Fu Dean 1:05:47.640 --> 1:05:50.080 Paraso Tolt MTV, and the story goes, I don't know 1:05:50.120 --> 1:05:52.960 if it's true that David Carridine was just completely stoned 1:05:53.120 --> 1:05:55.560 all the time on that show. Dialogue would just come 1:05:55.560 --> 1:05:56.920 out of his head and people would just stare at 1:05:56.920 --> 1:05:59.720 each other and think where did that come from? So 1:05:59.800 --> 1:06:01.680 we knew we couldn't do a stoner because we need 1:06:01.680 --> 1:06:04.640 to hit a PG. Thirteen, But we basically suggested that. 1:06:05.280 --> 1:06:08.640 Tony Shelleh continued, I'd heard Carrodine was high the entire time, 1:06:08.760 --> 1:06:10.360 and whether it was true or not, we used it 1:06:10.400 --> 1:06:13.240 as a jumping off point for Fred Kwan. It's nineteen 1:06:13.280 --> 1:06:16.400 ninety nine, fifteen years after the Galaxy Quest TV series ended, 1:06:16.440 --> 1:06:18.680 and Fred Kwan is just a burnout with one foot 1:06:18.680 --> 1:06:22.520 outside reality, and that's why he's just he's just completely 1:06:22.640 --> 1:06:25.080 unfazed by everything that happens in the movie. 1:06:26.000 --> 1:06:28.400 He like shows up later, like for the teleportal, he's 1:06:28.440 --> 1:06:31.400 the last one there, and he's like, he's like wow, wow, guys, 1:06:31.680 --> 1:06:33.320 and he's like the only guy that goes along with 1:06:33.400 --> 1:06:35.240 Tim Allen's like, must you the space ship and he's 1:06:35.240 --> 1:06:37.320 like yeah, yeah, everyone else just like what. 1:06:37.920 --> 1:06:39.600 The other nod that Shell who made of this was 1:06:39.600 --> 1:06:42.440 his character's habit of always having his own snacks with 1:06:42.520 --> 1:06:46.400 him in a brown paper bag. Paris Hunt said, there's 1:06:46.440 --> 1:06:48.600 a lot more of Tony eating with the munchies out 1:06:48.640 --> 1:06:51.040 of that paper bag that we had to cut. He's 1:06:51.080 --> 1:06:52.560 the tech guy. You might think he would be into 1:06:52.560 --> 1:06:55.560 gadgets and devices, but instead he just carries around this 1:06:55.680 --> 1:06:58.760 large paper bag with his snacks. And funnily enough, we 1:06:58.800 --> 1:07:01.760 actually have the goat Steven Spielberg to thank for the 1:07:01.800 --> 1:07:04.680 subplot with Shell Hub and Missy Pile's alien character. 1:07:05.360 --> 1:07:07.000 Missy Pile was cast relatively late. 1:07:07.280 --> 1:07:10.160 Production was finding a hard time casting a female who 1:07:10.160 --> 1:07:13.080 could match the alien a female. When I say that 1:07:13.520 --> 1:07:17.320 a female, Pile was cast relatively late, as production was 1:07:17.360 --> 1:07:19.760 finding hard time casting a woman who could match the 1:07:19.920 --> 1:07:23.760 alien performances given by Enrico Cole and Toni Rain Wilson 1:07:23.800 --> 1:07:27.360 and Jed Rees. Casting agent Debra Zane showed Pile the 1:07:27.400 --> 1:07:30.680 first minute of Rees's audition, and she said, Missy saw 1:07:30.720 --> 1:07:34.960 it and got it immediately. Zane continued to Backstage dot Com, 1:07:35.000 --> 1:07:36.680 she was so great that when I sent the audition 1:07:36.720 --> 1:07:39.720 tape to Dean Parasat on her picture and resume, I 1:07:39.720 --> 1:07:42.120 put a little post it that said, well, I actually 1:07:42.120 --> 1:07:44.760 made a xerox copy of my Casting Society of America 1:07:44.800 --> 1:07:48.120 membership card I said, if this is not Laliari, I 1:07:48.160 --> 1:07:51.720 will resign from the CSA. Apparently Missy Piles up against 1:07:51.760 --> 1:07:53.960 Jennifer Coolidge for this, so this. 1:07:53.920 --> 1:07:56.480 Would have been the same year that she was Stiffler's 1:07:56.480 --> 1:07:59.560 mom in American Pie. That's interesting. 1:08:00.240 --> 1:08:03.680 And then the character of Loy also stuck with a 1:08:03.720 --> 1:08:08.360 man of an American man of the letters John Updike 1:08:08.760 --> 1:08:13.120 in the novella Rabbit Remembered and names a character after 1:08:13.200 --> 1:08:13.840 La La Lowry. 1:08:13.920 --> 1:08:16.360 Apparently he was a fan of this movie. Well, I'm 1:08:16.360 --> 1:08:20.439 not done with I'm not done with Jennifer Coolidge. That's 1:08:20.439 --> 1:08:23.920 an interesting Oh, it might have been inspired by Kristin 1:08:24.000 --> 1:08:27.880 Johnson in Third Rock from the Sun. This very tall 1:08:27.960 --> 1:08:30.759 blonde woman. I wonder if that was the bad of mine. 1:08:30.840 --> 1:08:34.200 I forgot Third Rock was so big at this time. Yeah, man, 1:08:34.240 --> 1:08:37.599 whither Third Rock? Whither French Stewart Mmm? 1:08:38.600 --> 1:08:43.080 Yeah? And whether Harlan Williams, Oh, yeah, man himself, I 1:08:43.160 --> 1:08:44.040 love rocket Man. 1:08:44.680 --> 1:08:46.479 There's one line from that movie that I that I 1:08:46.560 --> 1:08:48.800 quote a little too much was when he slides down 1:08:48.800 --> 1:08:50.240 the safety railing and he goes. 1:08:50.160 --> 1:08:58.200 The flesh it burns. Yeah, say that a lot. Yeah, 1:08:58.240 --> 1:09:00.519 that's a bit of a deep, deep cut for you guys. 1:09:02.280 --> 1:09:04.439 Oh that was such a good that was a great movie. 1:09:04.520 --> 1:09:09.519 It's a good movie. Yeah. Well, Spielberg, who was obviously 1:09:09.520 --> 1:09:13.120 a co owner of DreamWorks Studio making this movie. Haiti, 1:09:13.240 --> 1:09:16.479 visits the set at one point, suitably freaking everyone on 1:09:16.520 --> 1:09:17.200 the set out. 1:09:17.800 --> 1:09:19.400 And what do you do if you're just casually filming 1:09:19.400 --> 1:09:23.320 your little star Trek purioed in Stephen Steven Spielberg, who's 1:09:23.360 --> 1:09:25.840 the head of the studio also shows up. 1:09:26.080 --> 1:09:29.599 It's like, yeah, when we were doing uh Close Encounters, Oh, 1:09:29.600 --> 1:09:31.880 when we were doing et Like, oh. 1:09:31.680 --> 1:09:37.040 Yeah, right, yeah he did those movies, and then he's 1:09:37.040 --> 1:09:38.160 actually what he did. 1:09:39.439 --> 1:09:43.800 His presence on this. Yeah. Alan Rickman told MTV it 1:09:43.840 --> 1:09:46.519 was hard to have a conversation. You could hear every 1:09:46.520 --> 1:09:48.840 word coming out of your mouth and you just want 1:09:48.880 --> 1:09:52.639 to stop talking, which is an incredible way to phrase 1:09:52.960 --> 1:09:56.360 a sensation we all know far too. Yeah, exactly, Yeah. 1:09:57.040 --> 1:09:59.840 Producer Mark Johnson said, Stephen can come in even with 1:09:59.880 --> 1:10:01.640 so so many balls in the air and look at 1:10:01.640 --> 1:10:03.600 what you're shooting and cutting and get right to the 1:10:03.640 --> 1:10:05.760 heart of the matter and say why not do this? 1:10:06.960 --> 1:10:11.360 It's awes powers too opening. Austin's like, I do have 1:10:11.360 --> 1:10:13.680 some thoughts and he just prays with his oscars. Like 1:10:13.800 --> 1:10:15.559 my friends here think it's great the way it is. 1:10:16.200 --> 1:10:20.639 M Spielberg's two suggestions were beefing up Justin Long's role 1:10:20.680 --> 1:10:23.679 in the movie He's the overly famous super fan Yes, 1:10:24.040 --> 1:10:26.719 as well as Missy Pile's pointing out that without Pile, 1:10:27.080 --> 1:10:29.280 the sole female presence of the film would have been 1:10:29.320 --> 1:10:33.200 Sigourney Weavers. Long's role had been cut down to nothing, 1:10:33.439 --> 1:10:36.680 and Spielberg suggested correctly that in a movie poking fun 1:10:36.720 --> 1:10:39.160 at the concept of fandom, they needed to have long 1:10:39.280 --> 1:10:43.479 super fan feature. More prominently, Missy Pyle was only in 1:10:43.560 --> 1:10:46.519 two scenes until the director made his note or studio 1:10:46.600 --> 1:10:47.920 head I should say, made his note. 1:10:48.000 --> 1:10:50.720 Yeah, not acting in capacity as director. No, acting in 1:10:50.760 --> 1:10:55.200 capacity of everyone's boss, Yes, at. 1:10:55.040 --> 1:10:58.320 Which point the subplot between her and Tony Shaloub was added. 1:10:59.240 --> 1:11:01.400 Justin Long in his his first feature role, beat out 1:11:01.560 --> 1:11:05.080 Allan Culkin Eddie K. Thomas, speaking of American Pie, he 1:11:05.280 --> 1:11:08.160 was the guy that I used to get compared to 1:11:08.200 --> 1:11:12.320 an American pie, the pretentious do we what was his name? 1:11:13.360 --> 1:11:13.800 I don't know. 1:11:13.920 --> 1:11:17.200 The guy I'm not huge on that movie, Paul Finch Finch, 1:11:17.280 --> 1:11:19.400 that was his name, Finch, Yes, Yes. 1:11:20.280 --> 1:11:24.160 And Tom Everett Scott, who stars as the drummer Guy 1:11:24.240 --> 1:11:27.760 Patterson in My Beloved That Thing You Do. I can't 1:11:27.760 --> 1:11:29.519 see him as a nerd, though he's too. He's too 1:11:29.520 --> 1:11:35.439 handsome and genial. True. Yeah, just long prepared for his 1:11:35.600 --> 1:11:39.000 role by watching Trekkies, a documentary about the star Trek fandom. 1:11:39.439 --> 1:11:42.160 He said of his role, I was channeling Phil Hoffman, 1:11:42.720 --> 1:11:45.840 Philip Seymour, Hoffman from Boogie Knights mixed with the comic 1:11:45.840 --> 1:11:48.639 book guy from the Simpsons, which makes a lot of sense. 1:11:49.040 --> 1:11:50.519 That's very good. Yeah, that is. 1:11:52.240 --> 1:11:54.120 The aliens who enlisted the cast of the show in 1:11:54.160 --> 1:11:56.760 the film are called Thermian's and you can think just 1:11:56.840 --> 1:11:59.320 shoot me star Enrico Cole and Toni for their voice. 1:11:59.320 --> 1:12:02.599 I'm sure he's done things. Towards the end of Colntoni's audition, 1:12:02.840 --> 1:12:06.519 Dean Parasat told ign I said, Rico, it seems like 1:12:06.520 --> 1:12:12.920 you've got something on your mind. Rico, Baby, what do 1:12:12.920 --> 1:12:17.080 you hold him back from me? He goes, well, I 1:12:17.160 --> 1:12:19.960 have this voice. I don't know if it works. I said, 1:12:20.000 --> 1:12:20.479 what is it? 1:12:20.600 --> 1:12:21.040 Try it? 1:12:21.439 --> 1:12:24.200 He did, and I just went, oh my god, that's it. 1:12:24.920 --> 1:12:27.919 As the other Thermians were added, you know, Missy Pile, Jedrees, 1:12:28.000 --> 1:12:30.840 Patrick Breen, and even Rain Wilson also in his feature 1:12:30.840 --> 1:12:33.880 film debut. They held an alien school to work on 1:12:33.960 --> 1:12:37.479 posture and mannerisms. But everyone followed col Antoni's lead with 1:12:37.520 --> 1:12:41.519 the voice as well. We it's such a pid like 1:12:41.640 --> 1:12:44.639 the fact that he came in with that already prepared. Ah, 1:12:47.360 --> 1:12:52.160 that's so damn funny. Good for him. An actor prepares. 1:12:53.720 --> 1:12:54.479 You peasants. 1:12:56.000 --> 1:12:59.720 It's like, none of you have read who wrote that Stanislawski. 1:13:00.160 --> 1:13:02.680 I think so none of you have read Stanislavsky. 1:13:04.160 --> 1:13:07.120 I also have not. But it was not an auspicious 1:13:07.200 --> 1:13:10.760 debut for rain Wilson. He would later tell GN I 1:13:10.840 --> 1:13:13.519 kept forgetting my line. I couldn't get it right, especially 1:13:13.520 --> 1:13:16.000 because there were all these A list movie stars behind me. 1:13:16.400 --> 1:13:21.920 There's Tim Allens, Gourney, Weavers, Sam Rockwell, and Tony Shaloube included. 1:13:21.960 --> 1:13:24.760 Tony shalub in that I just kept blanking. I got 1:13:24.800 --> 1:13:31.280 so nervous. I remember my tinfoil suit was filled with sweat. Gross. Yeah, 1:13:31.320 --> 1:13:34.800 his biggest scene was ultimately axed from the final cut. 1:13:35.439 --> 1:13:39.040 And we also have to mention Sam Rockwell's character, Guy Fleiegmann, 1:13:39.439 --> 1:13:44.200 who's constantly got friend of the pod, Guy Fleegman. 1:13:44.479 --> 1:13:48.439 I am such a child for funny sounding names. I 1:13:48.640 --> 1:13:53.599 still find good fact that they pitched Vince Vaughan's character 1:13:53.600 --> 1:13:58.320 and Anchorman as Wesman Tooth simply because of the way 1:13:58.400 --> 1:14:01.360 that Will Ferrell bites into that line in the movie. 1:14:02.000 --> 1:14:05.240 Ah Man, I'm just a simple a simple boy from 1:14:05.280 --> 1:14:07.880 the country. You give a character a silly name, I'm 1:14:07.880 --> 1:14:11.000 gonna laugh at it Guy Fleiegman. 1:14:12.439 --> 1:14:14.599 I named the character and something I was working on, 1:14:15.040 --> 1:14:18.439 John LeFarge, and it still cracks me up. It's good, 1:14:18.520 --> 1:14:21.120 it's good. It's and it's very close to Jordi LeFarge, 1:14:21.200 --> 1:14:25.320 so little Jordi Forge. Yeah, the Star Trek crept in there. 1:14:25.800 --> 1:14:30.000 Sorry to burst that bubble for you. Gas Pothier Gaston 1:14:30.920 --> 1:14:34.720 called gas for short. Gas Pothier is another one. That's good. Yeah. 1:14:34.800 --> 1:14:36.400 These are getting into like these are getting into like 1:14:36.439 --> 1:14:41.360 pinsion names. Yeah. The gas Pathier is a is a 1:14:41.400 --> 1:14:46.200 French Canadian bass fisherman. That's the that's the character. Yeah, 1:14:46.960 --> 1:14:51.840 probably played by current age Jim Carrey in his sixties. Yeah, 1:14:52.240 --> 1:14:55.240 good stuff. Yeah, thank you. John LeFarge is Will Ferrell, 1:14:55.280 --> 1:14:59.639 current age m so. Yes, Guy Fleiegmann played by Sam Rockwell, 1:14:59.680 --> 1:15:02.720 who I wholly forgot what's in this movie. He's constantly 1:15:02.760 --> 1:15:05.639 paranoid about being killed, which is a riff on Star 1:15:05.680 --> 1:15:09.360 Trek's famous Red Shirts, or the anonymous crew members who 1:15:09.720 --> 1:15:11.800 are always clad in red and are always the first 1:15:11.840 --> 1:15:15.160 to be killed off during any altercation. It's since become 1:15:15.200 --> 1:15:18.000 a trope across the genre, but it's important to note 1:15:18.000 --> 1:15:20.120 that of the fifty five crew members, killed in the 1:15:20.120 --> 1:15:23.840 original Star Trek series. You write twenty four, we're wearing 1:15:23.920 --> 1:15:26.120 red shirts. It's a real thing. 1:15:26.439 --> 1:15:30.840 Yeah, yeah, we love tropes that are real, at least 1:15:30.880 --> 1:15:31.280 in media. 1:15:32.000 --> 1:15:33.760 You'd think that, like it wouldn't be red so you 1:15:33.800 --> 1:15:36.280 could see the blood, you know what I mean. Maybe 1:15:36.280 --> 1:15:39.400 it was. Maybe it was though you know, network standards 1:15:39.400 --> 1:15:43.040 and practices. Uh, that's a good point, okay, yeah, yeah. 1:15:44.320 --> 1:15:47.360 Sam Rockwall supposedly beat out Paul Rudd for the role 1:15:47.439 --> 1:15:52.160 of Say It with Me Now, Guy, and the character's 1:15:52.240 --> 1:15:55.839 name is a reference to an actor named Guy Vardaman, 1:15:56.280 --> 1:15:59.040 who'd played several no name characters in Star Trek the 1:15:59.040 --> 1:16:03.120 Next Generation and doubled for Brett Spiner as Data and 1:16:03.160 --> 1:16:06.880 Will Wheaton as Wesley Crusher on that show. Yep, yep. 1:16:07.680 --> 1:16:11.480 Sam Rockwell has two scenes in which he emits prolonged screams. 1:16:12.320 --> 1:16:15.479 For the teleportation scene, he downed quote four cups of 1:16:15.520 --> 1:16:18.240 coffee and two etcron which is about what I'm on today, 1:16:19.240 --> 1:16:21.960 as he told MTV, and afterwards a couple of beers 1:16:21.960 --> 1:16:25.200 to calm down. Maybe that's in my future. So Gourney 1:16:25.240 --> 1:16:27.639 Weaver was not told that he was going to do this, 1:16:27.680 --> 1:16:31.320 so her shocked reaction when he screams is completely real. 1:16:32.920 --> 1:16:37.439 Rockwell said that he wanted to quote Ennoble the coward archetype, 1:16:38.960 --> 1:16:41.559 and thought of, in his words, the best cowards in 1:16:41.600 --> 1:16:45.559 cinematic history, like John Taturo and Miller's Crossing, as well 1:16:45.600 --> 1:16:50.280 as Bill Paxton in Aliens with Michael Keaton in Night Shift. 1:16:50.600 --> 1:16:52.600 Know that one. But to me, Bill Paxton is the 1:16:52.840 --> 1:16:53.920 is the perfect coward. 1:16:54.000 --> 1:16:57.000 Yeah, that's good. All film history. Yea, all this bravado 1:16:57.200 --> 1:17:01.519 immediately folds and starts freaking out amazing, Ah Paxton. 1:17:04.160 --> 1:17:07.800 Yeah, yeah, I still it doesn't feel right to me 1:17:07.880 --> 1:17:12.680 that he's not here. Yeah, you know what I mean. Yeah, 1:17:12.720 --> 1:17:15.879 In any event, we have now exiled Hollywood sexual predator 1:17:15.960 --> 1:17:19.920 Kevin Spacey, then doing the Iceman Cometh on Broadway. To 1:17:20.000 --> 1:17:23.360 thank for Sam Rockwell's role, the younger actor went to 1:17:23.360 --> 1:17:26.080 see Spacey, who encouraged him to do Galaxy Quest over 1:17:26.120 --> 1:17:29.639 another smaller movie that he'd been mulling over. Rockwell told 1:17:29.640 --> 1:17:32.840 the Hollywood Reporter, I thought about Sean Penn fast times 1:17:32.880 --> 1:17:36.240 at Ridgemont High, as one does. I figured I could 1:17:36.240 --> 1:17:39.519 play Guy Fleegman and still do say the Deer Hunter. 1:17:39.960 --> 1:17:41.880 I can play a buffoon and then turn it around 1:17:41.960 --> 1:17:44.320 with a versatile role in the next film. What was 1:17:44.360 --> 1:17:45.120 his next film. 1:17:45.000 --> 1:17:47.080 Let's see you're doing this out of spite to Sam 1:17:47.160 --> 1:17:51.400 Rockwall to be like nice try idiot. He was very 1:17:51.400 --> 1:17:54.760 good as Bob Fosse and uh Sam Rockwell's great. 1:17:56.040 --> 1:17:58.439 Oh yeah, he was in Boscot too. Oh yeah, that's right, 1:17:59.080 --> 1:18:05.559 small role in basket Okay. Yeah. That year he was 1:18:05.600 --> 1:18:08.719 in A Midsummer Night's Stream, he was in The Green Mile, 1:18:09.439 --> 1:18:11.679 and he was in Galaxy Quest. And his next movie 1:18:11.840 --> 1:18:17.000 was You Ready I Am Charlie's Angels. Oh, which is 1:18:17.600 --> 1:18:21.559 not Check's Notes Dear Hunter, No, but. 1:18:21.640 --> 1:18:23.280 You know it is the movie that kind of was 1:18:23.320 --> 1:18:26.240 his mainstream breakthrough, so he chose well. 1:18:27.240 --> 1:18:33.080 I suppose he was in Confessions of a Dangerous Mind, 1:18:33.120 --> 1:18:36.400 that movie about the game show host uh Chechuck. 1:18:36.160 --> 1:18:40.479 Barris, Yeah, claiming he was a contract killer for the CIA. 1:18:41.000 --> 1:18:42.360 That's a great book. 1:18:42.479 --> 1:18:44.960 I don't know if the movie is as charming, but 1:18:45.400 --> 1:18:49.240 the whole bit about that is so funny in. 1:18:49.280 --> 1:18:52.200 A way, kind of like Galaxy Quest. Yeah. 1:18:52.720 --> 1:18:55.599 I think that movie has been completely forgotten too, even 1:18:55.640 --> 1:18:58.400 though I think was that a George Clooney directorial. 1:18:58.560 --> 1:19:01.080 Ooh, it might have been I think it was. That's 1:19:01.080 --> 1:19:06.280 how it got to Julia Roberts on the cheap Yeah, 1:19:06.320 --> 1:19:10.120 and he was Screamway by Charlie Coffin. Yeah, whoa wow. 1:19:10.560 --> 1:19:12.439 I read the book before I saw the movie. Actually, 1:19:12.640 --> 1:19:15.439 I don't think the movie quite comes off, but the book, 1:19:15.479 --> 1:19:18.000 written by Chuck Barris, is pretty. 1:19:17.680 --> 1:19:18.799 Good, suitably insane. 1:19:20.200 --> 1:19:23.960 Galaxy Quest had a respectable forty five million dollars reported budget, 1:19:24.000 --> 1:19:26.439 which is a little over eighty six million today, which 1:19:26.800 --> 1:19:29.120 films like this do not get anymore. No, you know, 1:19:29.320 --> 1:19:33.519 this is a straight to Netflix shot on digital lit 1:19:33.560 --> 1:19:38.599 for coverage pieces that you will forget immediately after you've 1:19:38.640 --> 1:19:40.439 seen it. That's what the role of this movie would 1:19:40.479 --> 1:19:43.120 have been today, and much of it thankfully went into 1:19:43.160 --> 1:19:47.400 the careful production design and effects. Production designer Linda Dessenna 1:19:47.520 --> 1:19:49.920 told Starlog one of the reasons that I wanted to 1:19:49.920 --> 1:19:51.920 do Galaxy Quest was because it didn't have to be 1:19:52.040 --> 1:19:54.080 real high tech and vacuu formed. 1:19:54.400 --> 1:19:56.559 It could be, you know, kind of tacky. 1:19:57.320 --> 1:19:59.040 We were going to use blue and violet, but we 1:19:59.120 --> 1:20:01.360 ended it up with the same color of gray, just 1:20:01.439 --> 1:20:04.400 three different values. That's hilarious because that is one of 1:20:04.400 --> 1:20:07.120 my beasts. With the next generation like Star Trek period. 1:20:07.200 --> 1:20:09.759 I'm like, I don't like sci fi that looks like clean. 1:20:10.280 --> 1:20:14.000 My ideal sci fi is like dusty Star Wars sci fi. 1:20:14.439 --> 1:20:18.320 And then like the set of Alien because like, I 1:20:18.360 --> 1:20:20.840 don't know how you would keep space so clean. You 1:20:20.880 --> 1:20:24.200 can't open the door and brush dust out. 1:20:24.360 --> 1:20:30.000 You know, what's the deal with with the with the enterprise? 1:20:30.160 --> 1:20:34.920 Where's the dust go the window? 1:20:35.560 --> 1:20:39.439 They probably would have immediately after building that, they would 1:20:39.439 --> 1:20:42.799 have figured out a way to find some poor immigrant 1:20:43.000 --> 1:20:45.040 to clean the enterprise for pennies on the dollar. 1:20:46.000 --> 1:20:50.920 That's what the real Federation would have done, Folks Confederation. 1:20:51.280 --> 1:20:54.000 When I start a movie, she said, aside from the 1:20:54.000 --> 1:20:55.800 things you would normally focus on, like how to lay 1:20:55.800 --> 1:20:59.160 out a set, et cetera, it's color. In this movie 1:20:59.160 --> 1:21:01.720 we have Sarah's world where everything is green. So in 1:21:01.760 --> 1:21:03.760 Sarah's men are aboard of the ship, they stand out 1:21:03.800 --> 1:21:05.599 because everyone else is in gray and they're green. 1:21:06.040 --> 1:21:07.559 And then we go into the real world. 1:21:07.720 --> 1:21:10.080 In this movie, everything stays with the steel blues and 1:21:10.120 --> 1:21:13.759 the greens. In case you doubted her, bona Fides Dessenna 1:21:13.880 --> 1:21:16.880 was a set decorator on Star Trek, the motion picture 1:21:18.479 --> 1:21:20.519 Love that like you get a real set designer from 1:21:20.560 --> 1:21:22.280 Star Trek to do your Star Trek parody. 1:21:23.040 --> 1:21:26.960 Amazing stuff. The bad guy in the movie, General Saras, 1:21:27.320 --> 1:21:29.280 I love this so much. This is so petty, is 1:21:29.360 --> 1:21:33.599 named after film critic Andrew Saras, who was outspoken about 1:21:33.600 --> 1:21:37.240 his dislike of producer Mark Johnson's previous effort The Natural. 1:21:38.200 --> 1:21:42.799 Sarah's responded to this ignoble honor in Entertainment Weekly, equipping 1:21:42.880 --> 1:21:47.160 the Galaxy quest quote, this is pretty good. Probably won't 1:21:47.160 --> 1:21:49.799 make enough money for me to sue for ten million dollars. 1:21:51.439 --> 1:21:55.080 I mean it did, but you know he didn't. There 1:21:55.080 --> 1:21:58.919 are also two shakespeare references made via character names. Commander 1:21:58.960 --> 1:22:01.960 Peter Quincy tag as we mentioned earlier, is named for 1:22:02.040 --> 1:22:05.599 Peter Quince in A Midsummer Night's Stream, which Sam Roquah 1:22:05.640 --> 1:22:08.080 had just been in, so maybe that's where that connection 1:22:08.160 --> 1:22:13.440 comes from. And Alexander Dane is a reference to Hamlet 1:22:13.600 --> 1:22:17.880 the Lonely Dane. Rickman's line I played Richard the Third 1:22:18.520 --> 1:22:21.920 is also pointed because of all the Shakespearean roles, Rickman 1:22:22.000 --> 1:22:25.160 played Richard the Third was never one of them, but 1:22:25.240 --> 1:22:28.280 a funny coincidence. When Alan Rickman joined the Royal Shakespeare 1:22:28.280 --> 1:22:30.960 Company in nineteen seventy eight. He was an Antony and 1:22:30.960 --> 1:22:36.800 Cleopatra alongside friend of the pod really Patrick Stewart, friend 1:22:36.840 --> 1:22:40.880 of us. All. Yeah, the film's aspect ratio, this is 1:22:40.920 --> 1:22:44.200 really cool, switches from one point eight five to one 1:22:44.600 --> 1:22:47.360 to two point three eight to one when the ship 1:22:47.479 --> 1:22:50.479 lands on Thermia to give the effect of a new 1:22:50.560 --> 1:22:53.559 wider world opening up. Very Wizard of Oz, which Dean 1:22:53.640 --> 1:22:56.759 Parasat admits was him being quote a little too clever 1:22:56.880 --> 1:23:00.600 for my own good. He added, it kind of backfired 1:23:00.680 --> 1:23:04.320 on me with projectionists. They wouldn't open the curtains wide enough. 1:23:04.880 --> 1:23:07.759 It's funny because I actually the trick in that actually 1:23:07.800 --> 1:23:11.360 repeats twice because you're first watching a four to three 1:23:11.479 --> 1:23:15.599 ratio like old square TV size of Galaxy Quest the show, 1:23:16.439 --> 1:23:18.320 and then it's revealed. 1:23:17.800 --> 1:23:18.920 That they're watching. 1:23:20.400 --> 1:23:22.559 Us on the screen at the convention, and as they 1:23:22.920 --> 1:23:25.400 they they as they zoom in on it, the aspect 1:23:25.520 --> 1:23:28.600 ratio also changes to become like the window boxed widescreen. 1:23:28.680 --> 1:23:31.800 It's really, it's like really clever kind of flexes on 1:23:33.080 --> 1:23:37.920 camera work and directing that again went over everyone's head, yes, yes, 1:23:38.080 --> 1:23:40.280 or some people or projections were just too lazy to do. 1:23:41.000 --> 1:23:44.280 Speaking of Thermia, apparently the design for the thermi I 1:23:44.280 --> 1:23:48.040 can never say it. Apparently apparently the design for the 1:23:48.040 --> 1:23:52.120 Thermian's station was influenced by Roger Dean's album cover Free 1:23:52.240 --> 1:23:57.280 Yes Songs, which is incredible. One of our younger friends 1:23:57.280 --> 1:24:00.280 of the Pod friends of the Pod, Cyrus uh has 1:24:00.360 --> 1:24:04.559 but been taking music suggestions from our shows, which I'm 1:24:04.680 --> 1:24:07.960 deeply touched by uh and and he's been a big 1:24:08.000 --> 1:24:13.000 fan of of Yes of Oh, hell yeah A roundabout 1:24:13.560 --> 1:24:16.520 So there's another is roundabout on Yes Songs. I forget. 1:24:18.000 --> 1:24:22.599 No, I think it's on Imaginary Oceans. Possibly, don't quote 1:24:22.600 --> 1:24:24.760 me on that. No, it is, It's it's on uh Oh, 1:24:24.760 --> 1:24:25.599 it's on Yes Songs. 1:24:25.760 --> 1:24:35.200 Yeah, hell yeah, Sorry, it's on Boat Yes Songs is 1:24:35.200 --> 1:24:37.960 the greatest hits like compilation, So it's on two things 1:24:37.960 --> 1:24:38.519 can be true. 1:24:38.520 --> 1:24:40.000 I want to know which sci fi movie will be 1:24:40.080 --> 1:24:43.719 brave enough to recreate the armadillo tank on the cover 1:24:43.800 --> 1:24:46.320 of Emerson Lake Edward Palmer's album Tarcas. 1:24:47.200 --> 1:24:47.920 While we're doing. 1:24:48.000 --> 1:24:50.360 While we're doing, prog rock album covers one of the 1:24:50.439 --> 1:24:54.960 highest forms of art of the twentieth century. As I 1:24:55.000 --> 1:24:58.120 mentioned earlier, our boy, Stan Winston handed the creature effects 1:24:58.120 --> 1:25:02.639 the guy behind terminator, the guy behind aliens, the guy 1:25:02.720 --> 1:25:09.400 behind another one, another one, although one huge element of 1:25:09.439 --> 1:25:12.040 the film was nearly thrown off by his buddy Steven 1:25:12.080 --> 1:25:16.720 Spielberg's studio notes Winston crew had built five cable operated 1:25:16.760 --> 1:25:20.519 silicone puppets of the Thermians in their true form, forty 1:25:20.560 --> 1:25:24.439 five tentacles for each one. Steen's were blocked with them 1:25:24.560 --> 1:25:28.360 lit Hurst. Two weeks before they were scheduled to be shot, though, 1:25:28.439 --> 1:25:31.320 Winston got a call from Spielberg, who decided the aliens 1:25:31.360 --> 1:25:33.800 were too weird looking and should be more humanoid like 1:25:33.800 --> 1:25:36.559 the ones in Close Encounters of the Third Kind. So 1:25:36.640 --> 1:25:39.559 Winston phone his effects supervisor, Shane Maham with the news 1:25:39.840 --> 1:25:40.640 I couldn't believe it. 1:25:41.280 --> 1:25:41.960 And this is from. 1:25:41.800 --> 1:25:45.479 The Stan Winston School of Character Arts website, which is 1:25:45.520 --> 1:25:47.519 a wonderful like look at all of the work that 1:25:47.560 --> 1:25:50.960 he's ever done, and really detailed notes about it. He said, 1:25:50.960 --> 1:25:52.760 we'd gone through so much trouble for these things, and 1:25:52.800 --> 1:25:54.680 at this point we had two weeks to come up 1:25:54.680 --> 1:25:58.240 with something entirely new. Winston listened to man and said, 1:25:58.320 --> 1:26:01.760 let me call Stephen Spielberg back and whatever he said 1:26:01.800 --> 1:26:04.960 worked because the original designs made it into the movie. 1:26:05.160 --> 1:26:05.960 And this is funny. 1:26:06.479 --> 1:26:10.000 The Winston crew used technology that they were simultaneously working 1:26:10.120 --> 1:26:14.479 on for Tim Burton's Planet of the Apes remake for Sarah's. 1:26:14.760 --> 1:26:17.479 And this is a guy named the Winston Shop. One 1:26:17.520 --> 1:26:19.880 of the mechanics workers, Richard Landon. He says, we were 1:26:19.880 --> 1:26:22.200 testing things for Planet of the Apes and Stan came 1:26:22.280 --> 1:26:24.120 up to me one day and said, figure out a 1:26:24.120 --> 1:26:26.839 way to make a transfer mechanism so that an actor's 1:26:26.840 --> 1:26:29.360 face can actually move a prosthetic muzzle. 1:26:30.120 --> 1:26:30.439 He said. 1:26:30.439 --> 1:26:32.240 That was another case of Stan saying I don't know 1:26:32.280 --> 1:26:34.880 how to do this because I'm technically averse, and then 1:26:34.920 --> 1:26:36.920 exactly describing the mechanism to me. 1:26:37.600 --> 1:26:39.320 And so it's this little linkage. 1:26:38.960 --> 1:26:41.639 Device that made the makeup move when the actors face move, 1:26:41.800 --> 1:26:44.000 and that's what they use for Sarah's. And again, like 1:26:44.080 --> 1:26:48.200 that thing looks amazing. The prosthetics on that the character design, 1:26:48.840 --> 1:26:51.320 it looks like really amazingly excellent. 1:26:51.360 --> 1:26:54.360 Twenty five CGI. Wasn't that the problem with the original 1:26:54.400 --> 1:26:56.200 Planet of the Apes in nineteen sixty eight, where they 1:26:56.200 --> 1:26:59.479 had these like monkey masks that just the actors couldn't 1:26:59.760 --> 1:27:02.120 move their faces because the mask would move along with it. 1:27:02.280 --> 1:27:04.439 Yeah, it's like instead, it's the move that was like, 1:27:04.600 --> 1:27:06.559 I mean, I don't think it was precipitated by Planet 1:27:06.560 --> 1:27:08.599 of the Apes, but like, as they went from just 1:27:08.640 --> 1:27:13.600 like one piece applications to many smaller individual pieces, and 1:27:13.640 --> 1:27:18.519 I think that was largely the innovation of Dick Smith 1:27:19.040 --> 1:27:19.759 Affects Wizard. 1:27:19.840 --> 1:27:22.360 Dick Smith, who also worked on Exorcist. 1:27:23.640 --> 1:27:25.920 His big innovation at the time with the aging makeup 1:27:26.040 --> 1:27:30.200 for Dustin Hoffman's character and Little Big Man was multiple 1:27:30.240 --> 1:27:33.520 small pieces so that the facial features can move independently 1:27:33.600 --> 1:27:36.240 instead of just this huge chunk of rubber that just 1:27:36.240 --> 1:27:40.920 gets kind of glued onto your face or around your head. Anyway, 1:27:41.680 --> 1:27:45.479 Sarahs has a spiked eye patch, and that's supposedly an 1:27:45.479 --> 1:27:49.960 allusion to one worn by Christopher Plumber as General Chang 1:27:50.160 --> 1:27:53.960 in Star Trek six The Undiscovered Country. I don't think 1:27:53.960 --> 1:27:56.880 I've seen any of these past Wrath of Khan, the 1:27:56.920 --> 1:27:59.960 gross pig lizard that's beamed up inside out at. 1:28:00.120 --> 1:28:03.439 Under the pod Ping Lizard. Pig lizard was naturally a 1:28:03.479 --> 1:28:06.920 full sized costume with a dude inside it. I just 1:28:06.960 --> 1:28:07.639 love that man. 1:28:08.000 --> 1:28:10.360 Just a big old pig lizard that a guy got 1:28:10.400 --> 1:28:12.720 in and wriggled around him, just having a big old 1:28:12.800 --> 1:28:14.280 fun time making to movies. 1:28:16.320 --> 1:28:17.800 And there was no way for me to know this. 1:28:17.920 --> 1:28:19.639 I just can't believe I'm into movies. 1:28:19.760 --> 1:28:21.840 I'm making my love, making a living in the movies. 1:28:22.240 --> 1:28:27.240 Crawls into sweat drenched pig lizard costume and rolls around 1:28:27.280 --> 1:28:31.880 in the dirt with Tim Allen movies, movie magic. 1:28:33.520 --> 1:28:34.800 And there was no way for me to know this 1:28:34.880 --> 1:28:36.439 before I rehearsed this. 1:28:36.600 --> 1:28:39.639 But the little blue guys, little blue aliens who are 1:28:39.720 --> 1:28:42.639 all cute and then suddenly become terrifying. That character art 1:28:42.720 --> 1:28:45.799 was designed by Bernie Wrightson, who's a comic book artist 1:28:46.120 --> 1:28:49.720 who created my beloved swamp thing, and they did that 1:28:50.200 --> 1:28:54.679 just for me. The film's desert planet was the iconic 1:28:54.800 --> 1:28:58.759 Goblin Valley State Park in Utah, which is the place 1:28:58.800 --> 1:29:01.960 that has all of these like round, creepily eroded rocks 1:29:02.439 --> 1:29:06.400 amidst this very red tinged desert setting, and it is 1:29:06.960 --> 1:29:10.519 for such a cinematic location. It is really bizarre to 1:29:10.520 --> 1:29:13.040 me that Galaxy Cluster was one of the first films 1:29:13.080 --> 1:29:17.640 to shoot there. They were preceded by city slickers to 1:29:18.240 --> 1:29:19.599 the legend of Curly's Goal. 1:29:19.800 --> 1:29:22.439 I just rewatched that recently. That movie's great. I will 1:29:22.439 --> 1:29:25.599 not real word against City Slickers one or two, okay. 1:29:26.439 --> 1:29:30.240 And then later Terrence Malick's The Tree of Life, very 1:29:30.240 --> 1:29:32.080 different movie. 1:29:32.920 --> 1:29:36.479 Speaking of Goblin Valley, as we often do, a young 1:29:36.479 --> 1:29:39.200 man's mind often turns to Goblin Valley. 1:29:39.840 --> 1:29:40.679 This would be a great. 1:29:40.479 --> 1:29:42.960 Place to segue into what the film is and isn't, 1:29:43.040 --> 1:29:47.439 referencing from the wider sci fi cannon and the lanes 1:29:47.439 --> 1:29:49.439 to which production went to make sure they weren't going 1:29:49.479 --> 1:29:55.120 to get sued. So Galaxy quests Rock Monster from that Goblin. 1:29:54.760 --> 1:29:57.880 No no, no, no, no no no no no no 1:29:57.880 --> 1:29:59.680 no no no no, no no no, thank you. 1:29:59.720 --> 1:30:04.400 Good stuff, good stuff, good stuff. That is not a 1:30:04.520 --> 1:30:12.400 nod to William Shatner twos William Shatner's disastrous directorial debut, 1:30:12.640 --> 1:30:16.000 nineteen eighty nine's Star Trek five, The Final Frontier. It 1:30:16.040 --> 1:30:20.439 sounds like rock Lobster, it does. That's the bit, Follow 1:30:20.479 --> 1:30:23.720 me here on a journey. This film is notable in 1:30:23.760 --> 1:30:26.320 the Star Trek movie fandom because Star Trek four The 1:30:26.400 --> 1:30:29.120 Voyage Home had been directed by Leonard Nimoy, and that 1:30:29.240 --> 1:30:32.479 was a huge hit and so Shatner faced immense pressure 1:30:32.520 --> 1:30:34.840 to follow that with his bloated ass in. 1:30:34.840 --> 1:30:35.840 The directorial's chair. 1:30:37.640 --> 1:30:42.439 Four Star Trek five just so funny that everything Shatner 1:30:42.479 --> 1:30:46.519 does is like a spikee for other people towards other people. 1:30:47.520 --> 1:30:51.120 So Shatner's film introducts the character Sybock, the half brother 1:30:51.160 --> 1:30:54.320 of Spock, who hijacks the Enterprise on a quest to 1:30:54.439 --> 1:31:02.280 find God like a golden compass. So he was apparently 1:31:02.280 --> 1:31:05.240 inspired by like the prominence of televangelists like I guess 1:31:05.240 --> 1:31:07.320 Tammy fay Baker and jam Baker would have been hitting 1:31:07.320 --> 1:31:09.679 around this time, and he wanted the film to culminate 1:31:09.720 --> 1:31:12.680 in a sequence where Kirk, Spock, and Bones are pursued 1:31:12.760 --> 1:31:15.559 by angels and demons, though. 1:31:15.360 --> 1:31:18.680 He realized Scooby Doo, Yeah. 1:31:18.760 --> 1:31:22.799 He realized eventually that having Star Trek characters confront Judeo 1:31:22.880 --> 1:31:26.400 Christian concepts might not have been the smartest move, and 1:31:26.520 --> 1:31:29.760 his work around for this was somehow dumber and less realistic. 1:31:30.439 --> 1:31:33.519 Shatner decided that the film's climax would feature Kirk chased 1:31:33.560 --> 1:31:37.200 by a number of rock monsters. I've read anywhere from 1:31:37.240 --> 1:31:39.640 six to twenty on the mythical planet. 1:31:39.280 --> 1:31:42.640 Of Shaka Rie where lived. 1:31:43.080 --> 1:31:47.960 No, it's actually anoun to Sean Connery, who Shatner wanted 1:31:47.960 --> 1:31:50.160 to play Spock's brother, Sybock. 1:31:51.080 --> 1:31:54.120 Connery turned this down to be in the third Indiana 1:31:54.200 --> 1:31:58.640 Jones movie Say It with Me. He chose wisely so. 1:31:58.800 --> 1:32:01.800 The cost of shadow his rock Monster's concept would have 1:32:01.800 --> 1:32:04.879 come in at over three hundred thousand dollars, and Shatner 1:32:04.920 --> 1:32:07.439 had to settle for one, which was promptly cut from 1:32:07.479 --> 1:32:10.120 the film when everyone saw how shot It's out there 1:32:10.160 --> 1:32:13.320 on YouTube you can see it. Star Trek five ended 1:32:13.400 --> 1:32:16.000 up as the lowest grossing and worst reviewed of the 1:32:16.040 --> 1:32:18.759 Star Trek movies starring the cast of the original series, 1:32:18.800 --> 1:32:21.320 and once again, it couldn't have happened to a nicer guy. 1:32:22.600 --> 1:32:23.200 Rick been seen. 1:32:23.240 --> 1:32:25.679 By the way, accusing Allan's character of stealing his best 1:32:25.720 --> 1:32:27.880 lines and cutting him out of episodes is a direct 1:32:27.960 --> 1:32:30.160 jab at William Shatner, who was a huge divo on 1:32:30.200 --> 1:32:32.200 the set of the original series. He would ask for 1:32:32.200 --> 1:32:35.519 additional takes and extend his lines, and allegedly ordered lines 1:32:35.560 --> 1:32:38.400 of dialogue to be written for his own character. I've 1:32:38.400 --> 1:32:40.920 also read that he demanded all of the set lighting 1:32:40.960 --> 1:32:47.479 to be based around Kirk. Anyway, the Galaxy Quest rock Monster, 1:32:48.080 --> 1:32:53.040 which sounds like rock Lobster, was not direct was not 1:32:53.160 --> 1:32:57.400 a direct shot at Star Trek five, but screenwriter Robert 1:32:57.439 --> 1:33:00.559 Corton did allow that that entire scene of them on 1:33:00.600 --> 1:33:03.640 this desert like planet was a nod to the famous 1:33:03.920 --> 1:33:07.040 episode of the original series where Shatner fights a lizard 1:33:07.120 --> 1:33:11.160 like creature called the Gorn in the desert. The transporter 1:33:11.240 --> 1:33:14.040 malfunction and the sequence of the ship leaving its dock 1:33:14.080 --> 1:33:16.720 were both inspired by Star Trek the Motion Picture and 1:33:16.800 --> 1:33:18.479 this is amazing. I don't know why they didn't roll 1:33:18.479 --> 1:33:20.240 with this on original draft. One of the drafts of 1:33:20.240 --> 1:33:23.519 the screenplay referred to this as Galaxy Quest the Motion Picture, 1:33:23.600 --> 1:33:27.040 which they really should have run with. The scene on 1:33:27.080 --> 1:33:30.120 the rock planet, also where Brickman's doctor Lazarus is chided 1:33:30.160 --> 1:33:33.639 for holding his tracking device upside down, is apparently also 1:33:33.640 --> 1:33:35.360 a reference to the first scene of Star Trek, where 1:33:35.439 --> 1:33:39.440 Spock is repeatedly seen holding one of his gimmicks, Gimgauz, 1:33:40.160 --> 1:33:43.719 upside down before someone corrected him for the final time. 1:33:45.280 --> 1:33:48.400 Other sci fi references goredon the snuck in Sigourney Weaver's 1:33:48.479 --> 1:33:52.920 character saying ducks why is it always Dunce, which, in 1:33:52.920 --> 1:33:55.719 addition to Beth definitely being some form of an Indiana 1:33:55.800 --> 1:33:59.479 Jones riff, is also obviously a reference to the as 1:33:59.560 --> 1:34:06.040 you described, ducked Heavy alien franchise. When Quelex says I'm shot, 1:34:06.120 --> 1:34:09.760 that's a direct reference to James Brolin in Westworld and 1:34:09.800 --> 1:34:12.400 the Little Blue Aliens I actually caught. This are a 1:34:12.479 --> 1:34:17.719 nod to Barbarella, the nineteen sixty eight schlocky Roger Corman 1:34:17.800 --> 1:34:21.800 adjacent Jane Fonda starring Barbarbrella in a scene where she's 1:34:21.840 --> 1:34:26.360 waylaid by two cute children with horrible mechanical dolls with 1:34:26.479 --> 1:34:29.400 razor sharp teeth. Yes, that's that's their preferred that's their 1:34:29.600 --> 1:34:33.519 Oh yeah, god, it's so upsetting. Yeah, it really is. Yeah, 1:34:33.640 --> 1:34:36.960 see Barbarella though, Yeah, we watched it all together. That's fun. 1:34:37.320 --> 1:34:40.760 It's a good day. The Omega thirteen device was supposedly 1:34:40.760 --> 1:34:47.120 a nod to the climax of say It beneath the 1:34:47.160 --> 1:34:50.400 Planet of the Apes. That's right, my favorite, it's my 1:34:50.479 --> 1:34:55.719 new favorite sequel format title name. Absolutely, what's beneath the planet? Guys? 1:34:58.200 --> 1:35:04.000 A moon of a like, mister show thing, Like we're 1:35:04.000 --> 1:35:08.160 gonna blow up the moon well, we what else do 1:35:08.160 --> 1:35:09.920 you do with that? We walked on it, we hit 1:35:09.920 --> 1:35:13.520 a golf ball on it. Time to kill it. We're Americans. 1:35:16.560 --> 1:35:19.240 Beneath the Planet of the Apes features a doomsday device 1:35:19.320 --> 1:35:22.120 labeled Alpha Omega. No one could have gone back to 1:35:22.120 --> 1:35:28.160 the drawing board alpha omega omega? Which is more powerful? 1:35:28.240 --> 1:35:32.400 Alpha or omega? Well, I mean, you know, Christ is 1:35:32.439 --> 1:35:35.439 famously the beginning and end of all things, which is 1:35:35.439 --> 1:35:38.479 what I believe that was. That was fy the beginning 1:35:38.520 --> 1:35:40.519 and end. I think one of the things that the 1:35:40.560 --> 1:35:43.320 alpha and the omega is supposed to reference. But you know, 1:35:43.479 --> 1:35:45.360 it's been a long time since I got that PhD 1:35:45.400 --> 1:35:50.919 in divinities. Narrator voice, he did not have a PhD 1:35:50.960 --> 1:35:56.160 in divinities. Uh, Universal Life Church. That's what doctor Hunter S. 1:35:56.200 --> 1:35:59.800 Thompson did. That's true. That's true. And if you get 1:35:59.840 --> 1:36:03.000 the Ordained, you get a little thing that says, like 1:36:03.120 --> 1:36:06.000 priests that you can hang from your rearview mirror and 1:36:06.080 --> 1:36:08.880 you can park anywhere you sure can, You sure can. 1:36:10.000 --> 1:36:11.920 That's gonna come in handy for you. I know what's 1:36:12.000 --> 1:36:15.200 up next. I'm just rily you don't have to, you 1:36:15.280 --> 1:36:17.840 don't have to highlight it for me. On the outline, 1:36:18.360 --> 1:36:24.440 I'm getting the hook the planet of the Thermians Plaateau 1:36:24.640 --> 1:36:27.639 Nebula as a nod to the day the Earth stood still. 1:36:28.280 --> 1:36:31.840 That's right. The alien coming out of the spaceship is. 1:36:31.840 --> 1:36:35.720 Plato nickto barat Yeah, which is like one of the 1:36:35.720 --> 1:36:37.800 most famous sci fi RIfS of all time. It's in 1:36:38.400 --> 1:36:40.000 It's in the Book of the Dead and all the 1:36:40.240 --> 1:36:42.719 Army of Darkness movies from the from the Raimies. 1:36:42.760 --> 1:36:46.519 It's one of the incantations that you read in the 1:36:46.840 --> 1:36:49.320 in the Evil Dead and Army of Darkness. And there's 1:36:49.360 --> 1:36:52.360 a sort of proggy pop band of the seventies called 1:36:52.400 --> 1:36:56.520 Clatau named after that alien, and they sounded so beatlelike 1:36:56.760 --> 1:36:59.639 that there was like underground rumors of the like Paul 1:36:59.760 --> 1:37:03.639 is Dead variety that the Beatles had secretly reformed as 1:37:03.720 --> 1:37:06.400 this band Platoo. Did you know that? I didn't know that. 1:37:06.600 --> 1:37:08.840 There's not a lot of not a lot of people 1:37:08.880 --> 1:37:11.240 know that. Yeah, there's a song called sub rosa Subway, 1:37:11.400 --> 1:37:13.960 which sounds so it sounds like Paul McCartney singing, sounds 1:37:14.000 --> 1:37:17.760 something he would have written. It's yeah, it's good stuff too. 1:37:18.800 --> 1:37:23.200 Galaxy Quest was even parrotying contemporary sci fi. The insane 1:37:23.360 --> 1:37:25.360 chompers room that the crew has to go through was 1:37:25.439 --> 1:37:29.280 riffing on nineteen ninety seven's a vent Horizon, A wonderful 1:37:29.280 --> 1:37:32.400 slice of cheese about a spaceship whose engine opens up 1:37:32.400 --> 1:37:36.000 a portal to hell. Great movie. Another easter egg. One 1:37:36.040 --> 1:37:39.760 of the robots from The Ill Fated Toys, the Robin 1:37:39.800 --> 1:37:43.240 Williams movie. Yeah, also Barry Levinson. Oh that's right. I 1:37:43.320 --> 1:37:46.800 love that movie as a kid. Movie was nuts, which 1:37:46.840 --> 1:37:49.680 I guess producer Marke the Box I know it was not. 1:37:50.880 --> 1:37:54.160 Any one of those robots is on stage with Sam 1:37:54.240 --> 1:38:00.960 Rockwell's character at the contention Guy Fleegmanleegman. Yeah, this is nuts. 1:38:01.040 --> 1:38:03.960 It's about this like owner of a toy company dies 1:38:04.240 --> 1:38:06.400 and then leaves it in his will to his brother, 1:38:06.439 --> 1:38:09.679 who's like a general. And Robin Williams is the son 1:38:09.720 --> 1:38:12.320 who was passed over and is rightfully sad that he 1:38:12.360 --> 1:38:15.280 didn't inherit the toy company because he's the whimsical one, 1:38:15.360 --> 1:38:18.720 damn it. Yeah, and then the general. I think he 1:38:18.800 --> 1:38:21.920 starts off by like releasing what kids think are video 1:38:22.000 --> 1:38:27.120 games and taking advantage of their like incredible hand eye coordination. 1:38:27.479 --> 1:38:29.480 But the kids think they're video games, but they're actually. 1:38:29.280 --> 1:38:35.240 Like real things. Yeah, yeah, quite quite predictive, are very much. 1:38:35.400 --> 1:38:36.679 You know, you wouldn't be able to make that movie 1:38:36.680 --> 1:38:39.360 today because of the tariffs. 1:38:40.160 --> 1:38:45.479 Yes, yes, too expensive. Can't get those cheap, cheap rubber 1:38:45.479 --> 1:38:48.960 crap from China anymore until he fixes it, which I'm 1:38:49.000 --> 1:38:57.640 sure he will. Director Dean Parasol told MTV everybody was 1:38:57.680 --> 1:39:01.320 afraid of being sued. Same when we made that movie. 1:39:01.640 --> 1:39:04.080 Everything we would start, the designer come up with it 1:39:04.120 --> 1:39:08.080 couldn't help but be relevant in some way to Star Trek. Fortunately, 1:39:08.120 --> 1:39:11.360 he says, DreamWorks were more focused on Gladiator at the time, 1:39:11.720 --> 1:39:14.280 and they were able to duck too much scrutiny, though 1:39:14.320 --> 1:39:17.800 for instance, they couldn't say beam in reference to teleporting. 1:39:17.840 --> 1:39:21.280 That's so funny. Yeah, they were worried about the captain's chair, 1:39:21.479 --> 1:39:25.120 they were worried about the uniforms. Parasol continues, I ignored it, 1:39:25.160 --> 1:39:27.400 so I was actually terrified when the movie came out. 1:39:28.640 --> 1:39:32.320 Even the protector of the spacecraft serial number NTE three 1:39:32.439 --> 1:39:36.479 one two zero stands for not the Enterprise and te 1:39:36.720 --> 1:39:40.879 that's really funny. Love it. Other Slight language adjustments included 1:39:41.000 --> 1:39:44.200 using medical quarters instead of sick bay. That's dumb. That's 1:39:44.240 --> 1:39:46.960 like a sick base, like a widely used term, is 1:39:47.000 --> 1:39:51.000 it though? Yeah? But because of Star Trek though, you know, 1:39:51.760 --> 1:39:55.040 and the transporter is referred to as the Digital conveyor, 1:39:55.560 --> 1:39:58.680 and the chief Engineer is now a X sergeant. Is 1:39:58.720 --> 1:39:59.320 this funny? Yeah? 1:39:59.320 --> 1:40:01.080 I mean you think about all that stuff that's bled 1:40:01.120 --> 1:40:05.360 into just like the vernacular, you know, an influential show 1:40:05.600 --> 1:40:10.519 one might say Star Trek one dedicated Trekky. Though James 1:40:10.840 --> 1:40:16.080 Burrdnelli discovered that this whole thing was a farce. 1:40:17.400 --> 1:40:19.040 He was reviewing Galaxy Quez and. 1:40:19.080 --> 1:40:23.000 He discovered a piece of extended media, Star Trek Minutia. 1:40:23.680 --> 1:40:27.600 A short story by Ruth Boerban titled Visit to a 1:40:27.640 --> 1:40:31.240 Weird Planet Revisited Now. This was published in the nineteen 1:40:31.280 --> 1:40:35.640 seventy six anthology Star Trek The New Voyagers, and the 1:40:35.680 --> 1:40:39.599 plot of this story is that actors William Shatner, Leonard Nimoy, 1:40:39.720 --> 1:40:43.400 and DeForest Kelly are transported to the Real Enterprise while 1:40:43.400 --> 1:40:47.960 filming an episode of Star Trek and are pursued by Klingon's. 1:40:47.360 --> 1:40:52.160 So defores Kelly was into movie? No? Well, defores Kelly 1:40:52.200 --> 1:40:57.560 was not into movie. No he was not, But did 1:40:57.120 --> 1:40:58.360 you got it right? 1:40:58.520 --> 1:41:02.799 Like a short story from nineteen seventy six unnarrowingly predicted 1:41:02.800 --> 1:41:04.240 the plot of this movie in a way that no 1:41:04.280 --> 1:41:06.200 one would have found out because it was in a 1:41:06.280 --> 1:41:10.360 short story anthology in nineteen seventy six of Star Trek 1:41:10.479 --> 1:41:11.879 Extended Cannon Stories. 1:41:11.920 --> 1:41:15.360 It's like wicked. Yeah. But the other thing, the other. 1:41:15.400 --> 1:41:17.280 Quiet part loud about Galaxy Quest is that it is 1:41:17.360 --> 1:41:21.760 essentially Three Amigos, which starred Steve Martin, Chevy Chase and 1:41:21.760 --> 1:41:24.519 Martin Short as actors invited to a Mexican village to 1:41:24.600 --> 1:41:28.200 assume their fictional roles as protective bandidos in real life. 1:41:28.680 --> 1:41:31.479 And I want to say that they knew this because 1:41:31.479 --> 1:41:34.559 when Alan's character is watching himself in an old episode 1:41:34.600 --> 1:41:38.280 of Galaxy Quest, the monologue his character's doing resembles the 1:41:38.360 --> 1:41:41.120 rallying cry of the Three Amigos when he's like in 1:41:41.200 --> 1:41:42.880 his house and he's like in his house with the 1:41:42.880 --> 1:41:43.719 whiskey or whatever. 1:41:44.000 --> 1:41:46.760 Yeah, yeah, wherever there's darkness, there will be And that's 1:41:46.800 --> 1:41:48.120 like the Three Amigos bit. 1:41:48.840 --> 1:41:50.800 You know that house that Tim Allens in, like his 1:41:50.960 --> 1:41:53.200 character's house is like a very famous house in the 1:41:53.240 --> 1:41:57.320 Hollywood Hills called the Stall House. I believe it's like 1:41:57.600 --> 1:42:00.840 a lot of famous photos. It's just like beautiful mid 1:42:00.880 --> 1:42:07.320 century modern house by architect named Pierre Kanig, and it's 1:42:07.360 --> 1:42:10.799 like on the National Register it's called the Stall House 1:42:11.040 --> 1:42:13.800 s T. A. H. L. And it's a very very 1:42:13.800 --> 1:42:17.040 famous house because it's been in I want to say, 1:42:17.040 --> 1:42:19.960 it's been in its definitely and other stuff. Is it 1:42:20.080 --> 1:42:25.240 in Longa by Oh? Well, the guy designed it designed 1:42:25.439 --> 1:42:29.800 similar houses because it reminds me, it reminds me of 1:42:29.800 --> 1:42:32.400 the one in actually the one in Charlie's Angels that 1:42:32.479 --> 1:42:36.040 Sam Rockwell, yeah, but it is not. It's been. It 1:42:36.400 --> 1:42:39.400 was in the pilot episode of Colombo, which I love. 1:42:39.479 --> 1:42:43.599 Oh that's cool. Well, that's wonderful. The Stall House, Ladies 1:42:43.600 --> 1:42:44.080 and gentlemen. 1:42:46.800 --> 1:42:49.320 As you meditate on that, we'll be right back with 1:42:49.360 --> 1:42:52.639 more too much information after these messages. 1:43:04.680 --> 1:43:07.599 Well, for years, there's been a rumor persisting that there's 1:43:07.600 --> 1:43:10.880 an R rated cut of Galaxy Quest out there, and 1:43:11.000 --> 1:43:15.360 as you write, that's not strictly true. Writer Robert Gordon 1:43:15.400 --> 1:43:18.120 told MTV, let's talk about the so called R rated 1:43:18.200 --> 1:43:20.800 version of the film. When I originally wrote it, I 1:43:20.840 --> 1:43:23.559 wasn't thinking about a family film, just what I wanted 1:43:23.560 --> 1:43:26.000 to see. So when the ship lands in the convention 1:43:26.080 --> 1:43:29.160 hall and the original draft it decapitates a bunch of people. 1:43:29.760 --> 1:43:32.320 So there's also stuff we shot where Sigourney tries to 1:43:32.360 --> 1:43:35.519 seduce some of the aliens. It was cut and that's 1:43:35.520 --> 1:43:38.320 why her shirt is ripped at the end. Also the 1:43:38.360 --> 1:43:44.000 worst dubbed F bomb ever. You have thoughts about this, Oh, 1:43:44.040 --> 1:43:45.599 it's the worst dubbed F bomb ever. 1:43:45.680 --> 1:43:50.040 It's when they get into the chompers room and Sigarette 1:43:50.040 --> 1:43:53.360 A Reaver's immediate reaction is, well, that. 1:43:55.320 --> 1:43:58.360 Wasn't this PG, at least on Amazon. It's like pg's 1:43:58.360 --> 1:43:59.120 at that. 1:43:59.320 --> 1:44:01.519 So they cut the because you can get one F 1:44:01.600 --> 1:44:04.360 bomb in PG thirteen movie, but you can't a PGPG. 1:44:04.800 --> 1:44:10.439 And yeah, so they cut it and made the studio 1:44:10.439 --> 1:44:13.080 made them dub it is screw that and it's terrible. 1:44:13.120 --> 1:44:16.280 The director made it perfectly the end. Sigourney Weaver, she 1:44:16.400 --> 1:44:18.439 was like, I made it the worst dub I've ever done. 1:44:19.000 --> 1:44:22.400 And Dean Parasog didn't shoot any other cut of it, coverage, 1:44:22.640 --> 1:44:25.160 he shot nothing, no other safeties for that, so he 1:44:25.280 --> 1:44:27.559 was just and he was like, I dubbed it poorly, 1:44:27.640 --> 1:44:31.040 and apparently I wasn't able to verify this. But when 1:44:31.080 --> 1:44:35.679 they restored this movie and re released it for either 1:44:35.760 --> 1:44:37.439 DVD or I'm not sure if it's got a four 1:44:37.520 --> 1:44:39.640 K yet, but DVD or Blu ray, they were like, 1:44:39.720 --> 1:44:42.000 do you want to redo that and make it and 1:44:42.000 --> 1:44:44.880 make it a better dub? And he was like, no, no, 1:44:45.000 --> 1:44:45.880 I don't. 1:44:47.520 --> 1:44:50.439 Another cut scene was a visit to Alan Rickman's character's 1:44:50.479 --> 1:44:54.480 crew quarters, which Tim Allen described as quote a proctologist 1:44:54.560 --> 1:44:59.040 dream and nightmare, all of these sharp things around his anus. 1:45:00.760 --> 1:45:03.680 That might also be a nod to Event Horizon, which 1:45:03.760 --> 1:45:07.799 is like some of the funniest interior ship design ever, 1:45:07.920 --> 1:45:12.120 because it's like, you know, they get this transmission that's 1:45:12.160 --> 1:45:14.479 like just all of them, like all the characters at 1:45:14.520 --> 1:45:17.479 one point in this like Horrible Blood Orgy, it's like 1:45:17.560 --> 1:45:22.080 all these weird BDSM club design things, Like it's really 1:45:22.200 --> 1:45:24.880 it's really a great film, and there is actually about 1:45:24.880 --> 1:45:27.920 that film there is supposedly like for a long time 1:45:27.920 --> 1:45:30.559 people were obsessed with like finding an unrated cut of 1:45:30.560 --> 1:45:33.960 it that had all of this extra like graphic and 1:45:34.120 --> 1:45:36.920 horrifying footage still in it, or at least to get 1:45:36.960 --> 1:45:38.320 it recut and re released. 1:45:39.000 --> 1:45:42.840 And Paul W. Said, Paul W. S Anderson, who has 1:45:42.840 --> 1:45:44.760 since done all the Resident Evil movies. He did the 1:45:44.760 --> 1:45:46.519 first Mortal Kombat movie, he did a bunch of other 1:45:46.720 --> 1:45:50.000 just shlock. And he is married to Milli Jovovich, which 1:45:50.000 --> 1:45:52.240 is why she's in all of the Resident Evil movies. 1:45:53.640 --> 1:45:56.200 He was just like, He's like, no, it doesn't literally 1:45:56.280 --> 1:45:58.960 does not exist. Like all of that extra film went 1:45:59.040 --> 1:46:02.120 into like a backlot somewhere and then fell apart in 1:46:02.240 --> 1:46:05.799 like an Eastern European storage facility for the studio. 1:46:06.960 --> 1:46:09.880 Which I'm just very sad that that is what happens. 1:46:10.320 --> 1:46:13.240 But sometimes it doesn't happen. Sometimes it just gets burnt 1:46:13.240 --> 1:46:17.160 in a fire. M M. This was an universal movie, 1:46:17.200 --> 1:46:21.639 was it? No? Oh, well Spielberg, close enough? Yeah. Writer 1:46:21.800 --> 1:46:24.360 David Howard, the guy who originally came up with this premise, 1:46:24.400 --> 1:46:27.760 told IGN I understood there were two factions. One that 1:46:27.800 --> 1:46:30.320 wanted to make the movie more edgy, make the movie 1:46:30.479 --> 1:46:33.120 more edgy and hip, and another who wanted to make 1:46:33.120 --> 1:46:35.360 it more family friendly. And I don't mean that in 1:46:35.400 --> 1:46:37.840 a pejorative sense. This guy's too sweet for his own good. 1:46:38.120 --> 1:46:40.439 But they did make a deliberate choice to tone down 1:46:40.520 --> 1:46:42.800 some of the violence and take some of the language out. 1:46:43.720 --> 1:46:46.360 Sigourney Weaver told The Hollywood Reporter it may have been 1:46:46.400 --> 1:46:49.840 competition from another studio that nudged Galaxy Quest to the 1:46:49.960 --> 1:46:53.760 safer side of things. She said, to me, DreamWorks didn't 1:46:53.760 --> 1:46:56.200 seem particularly interested in what we were doing, which gave 1:46:56.240 --> 1:46:58.479 us more freedom during the shoot. But then at the 1:46:58.520 --> 1:47:01.519 last minute, DreamWorks it needed a movie to go up 1:47:01.520 --> 1:47:06.280 against Stuart Little The Mouse Movie, she helpfully adds, so 1:47:06.680 --> 1:47:09.280 they chose this one and started making cuts to the 1:47:09.280 --> 1:47:13.200 film Bummer Tales Oldest Time. Yeah. I do remember when 1:47:13.200 --> 1:47:16.080 this came out, thinking like, is this a kid's movie? Like, 1:47:16.120 --> 1:47:18.400 I don't h yeah. Uh. 1:47:18.520 --> 1:47:22.519 Dean director Dean Parast told MTV Terry Press now president 1:47:22.560 --> 1:47:26.719 of communications for Spielberg's Ambulance Entertainment, so he does indeed 1:47:26.800 --> 1:47:29.759 keep his friends close. She was the head of marketing 1:47:29.800 --> 1:47:31.960 for DreamWorks at the time and didn't believe in the movie. 1:47:32.320 --> 1:47:34.800 We had a critical screening in the Valley and Terry 1:47:34.840 --> 1:47:37.720 was pregnant with twins and couldn't go. Had she been there, 1:47:37.760 --> 1:47:40.680 she would realize this was an audience movie. So the 1:47:40.720 --> 1:47:43.720 film was in the top ten for nine weeks in 1:47:43.760 --> 1:47:45.559 the US, but it was a very slow climb to 1:47:45.600 --> 1:47:48.280 its total gross, which was a respectable doubling of its 1:47:48.320 --> 1:47:52.639 forty five million budget, made ninety mili. Early trailers also 1:47:52.720 --> 1:47:54.760 came out, though before the post production. 1:47:54.479 --> 1:47:57.519 VFX had been completed, so they didn't even have any 1:47:57.520 --> 1:47:59.920 of the beautiful like any of the nice CGI to 1:48:00.080 --> 1:48:03.519 show off. They just had you know, Tim Alan mugging. 1:48:04.760 --> 1:48:07.519 They had other things made out of rubber, like Tim 1:48:07.560 --> 1:48:11.160 Allen's face, and Parasawt continued. 1:48:11.200 --> 1:48:12.839 It became this thing where I would walk. 1:48:12.640 --> 1:48:15.080 Into meetings and people would say, it's a shame how 1:48:15.120 --> 1:48:17.600 they marketed that movie. They looked at it as a 1:48:17.640 --> 1:48:20.360 Christmas movie for kids. They put it in theaters that 1:48:20.360 --> 1:48:22.880 were for kids, and Matt nays, our big argument was 1:48:22.880 --> 1:48:24.840 that there was a much larger audience, but they didn't 1:48:24.840 --> 1:48:27.920 believe that. By the second week, adults started showing up, 1:48:27.960 --> 1:48:30.160 which sustained the film in a very strange way. 1:48:30.640 --> 1:48:32.920 It kept making the same amount of money each weekend 1:48:32.920 --> 1:48:35.360 for four weekends in a row, unheard of today. 1:48:36.400 --> 1:48:39.240 Parasat maintains that even enemy of the Pod Jeffrey Katzenberg, 1:48:39.320 --> 1:48:41.320 called him on the second week of the film's release 1:48:41.320 --> 1:48:44.040 and told him I'm sorry. I think we screwed up 1:48:44.040 --> 1:48:47.280 the marketing on this, to which I say, bully for him. No, 1:48:47.400 --> 1:48:51.320 it's amazing how Jeffrey Katzenberg has multiple allegory or anecdotes 1:48:51.320 --> 1:48:54.080 about him calling up and apologizing after things that he 1:48:54.160 --> 1:48:57.479 directed or things that were under his supervision flopped. 1:48:58.520 --> 1:49:00.720 I mean, which is that a enough to earn him 1:49:00.720 --> 1:49:04.439 a disciplinary committee hearing for TMI to see if we 1:49:04.479 --> 1:49:06.880 should be downgraded from enemy of the Pod to nuisance 1:49:06.920 --> 1:49:11.680 of the Pod. I mean, I had not believed that 1:49:11.720 --> 1:49:16.000 such a thing could be, But I love that nuisance 1:49:16.080 --> 1:49:21.200 of the Pod. I mean, that's good stuff. Self awareness, 1:49:21.320 --> 1:49:24.599 I guess would downgrade you to touse some nuisance? Yeah, 1:49:24.600 --> 1:49:29.320 self awareness, but no desire to actually affect anything demeanor? Yeah? 1:49:30.520 --> 1:49:33.800 Who among us? I do have to say one. 1:49:33.920 --> 1:49:36.559 However, there is one thing that the marketing department did 1:49:36.560 --> 1:49:39.360 have a genius stroke of which which they again might 1:49:39.400 --> 1:49:41.240 have been a little too clever for their own good. 1:49:41.560 --> 1:49:45.280 They built Galaxy quest dot com, which was not a 1:49:45.280 --> 1:49:48.400 page about the actual movie. It took the whole fake 1:49:48.479 --> 1:49:51.200 television show to the gag to its next level. 1:49:51.560 --> 1:49:52.280 This was like a. 1:49:52.200 --> 1:49:57.000 Purposefully janky looking fake fan site for the show Galaxy 1:49:57.080 --> 1:50:00.760 Quest that had a giant trove of fake episode guides 1:50:01.240 --> 1:50:03.479 and it was all hosted written by a fake fan 1:50:03.600 --> 1:50:07.840 named Travis Latki, who at one point thanks his mom 1:50:08.040 --> 1:50:10.559 for paying for the hosting servers in her basement. 1:50:12.680 --> 1:50:14.800 Great stuff. It doesn't live anymore. But you can see 1:50:14.960 --> 1:50:17.519 you can see in the way back machine. Yeah, you 1:50:17.520 --> 1:50:21.799 can see captive in the wayback machine. Nice. Speaking of fans, 1:50:22.240 --> 1:50:27.040 Trekki's love Galaxy Quest and why shouldn't they, right, there's 1:50:27.240 --> 1:50:30.280 very little mean spirited judgment in the film, and Justin 1:50:30.320 --> 1:50:33.519 Long's super fan character actually saves the entire cast of 1:50:33.560 --> 1:50:38.719 the show via his nerd knowledge your words. Yes, In fact, 1:50:38.800 --> 1:50:41.440 one of your favorite bits of trivia about the film, 1:50:41.640 --> 1:50:43.680 Oh here, you should you should take this is this 1:50:43.720 --> 1:50:47.240 is your favorite? It is my favorite. Yeah. 1:50:47.280 --> 1:50:49.400 One of my favorite bits about this film is that 1:50:49.439 --> 1:50:53.120 there was a Star Trek convention in Vegas and all 1:50:53.160 --> 1:50:56.519 of the attendees this was in twenty thirteen or fourteen, 1:50:56.840 --> 1:50:59.360 and all of the attendees voted on which was the 1:50:59.360 --> 1:51:04.120 best Star Trek movie, and Galaxy Quest came in at 1:51:04.200 --> 1:51:07.719 number seven. And you will note that there are far 1:51:07.760 --> 1:51:10.960 more than seven Star Trek movies, so a bunch of 1:51:10.960 --> 1:51:14.240 trekids decided that this was quote more of a Star 1:51:14.320 --> 1:51:17.160 Trek movie than several Star Trek movies on this list. 1:51:17.280 --> 1:51:20.640 I love that. That's really great. But what is the 1:51:20.680 --> 1:51:25.880 original source material? You may ask? Yes, Patrick Stewart, who 1:51:26.000 --> 1:51:27.600 come on, do we even need to ide him? He 1:51:27.640 --> 1:51:30.479 played Captain Jean Luke Lecard on Next Gen, a. 1:51:30.479 --> 1:51:32.920 Character name that introduced me to I want to say 1:51:32.920 --> 1:51:38.960 the concept of Jean Luke as a name in total, yes, yes, yes, yes, 1:51:39.200 --> 1:51:41.760 the most famous Jean Luke of all time. That's for 1:51:41.800 --> 1:51:42.679 the fans to decide. 1:51:45.200 --> 1:51:48.040 He had this to say, I had originally not wanted 1:51:48.080 --> 1:51:50.479 to see Galaxy Can I read this as him I 1:51:50.479 --> 1:51:54.040 had originally I can't do it. No, he got so close. 1:51:54.560 --> 1:51:56.240 I can have a cadence, but like, don't have the 1:51:56.320 --> 1:51:59.840 tambur I had originally, No, I can't. No, it's too deep. 1:52:01.439 --> 1:52:03.880 I had originally not wanted to see Galaxy Quest because 1:52:03.880 --> 1:52:05.840 I heard it was making fun of Star Trek. This 1:52:05.960 --> 1:52:09.040 is him talking to the BBC. Then Jonathan Frank's rang 1:52:09.120 --> 1:52:11.639 me up. Oh, I almost had it there and said 1:52:11.680 --> 1:52:16.400 you must not and said you must not miss this, 1:52:16.760 --> 1:52:20.559 you must not miss this movie. You must not miss 1:52:20.600 --> 1:52:22.920 this movie. See it on a Saturday night in a 1:52:22.920 --> 1:52:26.479 full theater. Frank's definitely did not deliver it like that. No, 1:52:27.320 --> 1:52:30.520 and I did, and of course I found it was brilliant, brilliant. 1:52:30.880 --> 1:52:33.040 No one laughed louder or longer in the cinema than 1:52:33.080 --> 1:52:37.919 I did. Tim Russ or Tuvac on Star Trek Voyager 1:52:38.200 --> 1:52:41.600 under my name there Cat Tuvak Nice, I had flashbacks 1:52:41.600 --> 1:52:43.880 of Galaxy Quests that the many conventions I've gone to 1:52:44.000 --> 1:52:46.040 since the movie came out. I thought it was an 1:52:46.040 --> 1:52:49.000 absolute laugh a minute. Yeah, I mean this movie for 1:52:49.600 --> 1:52:52.479 people who've been in the many Star Trek iterations, it 1:52:52.560 --> 1:52:54.760 must be like spinal tap for anybody who's ever been 1:52:54.760 --> 1:52:57.639 in a bends, Like, yeah, exactly, this is how much 1:52:57.640 --> 1:53:00.720 it can suck. I'm comfortably close. Yeah, thank you for 1:53:00.760 --> 1:53:05.800 seeing us. Will Wheaton Wesley Crusher on Next Shin had 1:53:05.800 --> 1:53:08.519 this to say, I loved Galaxy quest I thought it 1:53:08.560 --> 1:53:11.559 was brilliant satire not only of Trek but a fandom 1:53:11.600 --> 1:53:16.679 in general. Real heads call it Trek. There's a heat. 1:53:16.680 --> 1:53:18.360 That quote continues, and I cut it, and I'm not 1:53:18.439 --> 1:53:21.120 actually sure why, because well, it's a bit inside baseball. 1:53:21.120 --> 1:53:23.639 He said, all it needed was some sweaty guy yelling 1:53:24.360 --> 1:53:27.120 at the child actor why was there a child on 1:53:27.200 --> 1:53:29.920 the Star Trek Enterprise, which is something that dogged Will 1:53:29.920 --> 1:53:31.840 Wheaaten for years. I do have to say that his 1:53:31.960 --> 1:53:36.040 character sucks and should never have been on a spaceship. 1:53:36.160 --> 1:53:39.120 But that is like the poor kid was like, you know, 1:53:39.280 --> 1:53:41.559 eleven or whatever and having grown men scream in his 1:53:41.600 --> 1:53:44.920 face about how it was that he existed pure. I mean, 1:53:45.040 --> 1:53:49.080 so pretty could let's start on life in Hollywood and 1:53:49.120 --> 1:53:51.960 maybe life in general. It's true? Yeah, I mean they 1:53:51.960 --> 1:53:55.519 did you know, they broke his cherry early, popped his 1:53:55.600 --> 1:53:58.599 cherry early. Don't put that in. I hate that although 1:53:58.600 --> 1:54:03.000 this was the era of cherry pop. Was Will Wheaton 1:54:03.040 --> 1:54:05.680 the son of son of famous people? I know I 1:54:05.720 --> 1:54:09.880 might be getting confused with Mikey from Goonies, who was 1:54:10.720 --> 1:54:13.960 Patty Duke's kid. Oh yeah, no, I don't know if 1:54:14.000 --> 1:54:18.040 Will Wheaton's a Will Wheaton is a NEPO baby, so 1:54:18.720 --> 1:54:23.160 I'm not sure about that. Probably not. George Takai or 1:54:23.200 --> 1:54:25.920 Sulu from the original series of Star Trek had this 1:54:26.000 --> 1:54:31.880 to say, I think it's a chillingly realistic documentary. He laughs. Also, 1:54:32.680 --> 1:54:35.240 the details in it I recognized every one of them. 1:54:35.480 --> 1:54:38.560 It's a powerful piece of documentary filmmaking. I was rolling 1:54:38.600 --> 1:54:41.560 in the aisles and Tim Allen had that shat in 1:54:41.600 --> 1:54:46.360 the esque swaggered down at George Takai and Shatner famously 1:54:46.520 --> 1:54:49.760 been feuding probably in a series decade now, like a 1:54:49.760 --> 1:54:53.120 long long time, and I roared when the shirt came off, 1:54:53.280 --> 1:54:56.080 and Sigourney Weaver rolls her eyes and says, there goes 1:54:56.120 --> 1:54:59.440 that shirt again. How often do we hear that on set? 1:55:00.000 --> 1:55:01.640 I have to you know, I have to mention there's 1:55:01.640 --> 1:55:04.160 another thing in this movie that Sigourney Reaver made reference 1:55:04.200 --> 1:55:05.200 to in one of these oral. 1:55:05.040 --> 1:55:08.160 Histories, which is she said Tim Allen chickened out when 1:55:08.200 --> 1:55:13.720 it came time to kiss me. And indeed when they 1:55:13.800 --> 1:55:16.400 like embrace at the end of the movie, it does 1:55:16.480 --> 1:55:19.440 look like their characters were supposed to kiss, and there's 1:55:19.480 --> 1:55:21.880 like a very obvious like going in for the kiss, 1:55:21.920 --> 1:55:24.760 like no, and then they just hug uh. And I 1:55:24.760 --> 1:55:28.080 think that is so funny that they decided they again 1:55:28.320 --> 1:55:31.760 decided to keep that in as something that they would 1:55:31.760 --> 1:55:36.080 all mock Tim Allen four years later and laugh about, well, 1:55:36.120 --> 1:55:39.200 didn't they like early on in like the convention scene 1:55:39.320 --> 1:55:41.280 or something when one of the fans there. 1:55:41.640 --> 1:55:43.920 Are nots to them, like there are nots to them, 1:55:44.000 --> 1:55:47.000 like having had a relationship or something. And when he 1:55:47.120 --> 1:55:49.520 hits on her at one point, actually she delivers a great, 1:55:49.680 --> 1:55:51.440 a great line where he's like trying to like get 1:55:51.440 --> 1:55:53.120 her to come hook up with him, and she said, 1:55:53.520 --> 1:55:55.520 He says, come on, like you you know you found me, 1:55:55.640 --> 1:55:58.600 you found me beautiful once something like that, and and 1:55:59.040 --> 1:55:59.840 she says, that. 1:55:59.880 --> 1:56:02.240 Was before I knew you. Yes, yes, yes, yes, He's 1:56:02.680 --> 1:56:09.320 a devastating thing. Yes, And speaking of devastating things, William Shatner, Yeah, 1:56:08.920 --> 1:56:15.040 I do love Shatner though Why, I've heard people say 1:56:15.120 --> 1:56:17.120 the most horrible things about him, and I've also heard 1:56:17.120 --> 1:56:20.280 people say the most wonderful things about him. No. In between, Well, 1:56:20.280 --> 1:56:22.440 there's there's a Henry Rowlands bit during one of his 1:56:22.600 --> 1:56:27.880 spoken word things. Yeah, OK, because he Henry Rowans and 1:56:27.960 --> 1:56:31.800 Bill Shatner did a spoken word piece on an album 1:56:31.840 --> 1:56:34.880 that Ben Folds was producing. It's the William Shatner Album 1:56:34.920 --> 1:56:38.160 has been, which is actually great. And so Henry Rowans 1:56:38.160 --> 1:56:39.680 worked with him, and he said that he was just 1:56:39.760 --> 1:56:42.680 like helped him fall in love with life again. He 1:56:42.760 --> 1:56:46.840 was just so passionate, enthusiastic about like everything. They go 1:56:46.920 --> 1:56:49.000 out to dinner, and he said, just like watching William 1:56:49.040 --> 1:56:51.560 Shatner eat was just like a revelation because he's like 1:56:51.920 --> 1:56:54.120 every bite was going to be the best bite of 1:56:54.120 --> 1:56:56.320 his life. Like that was how how he described like 1:56:56.360 --> 1:57:00.480 watching him Shatner eat. I mean, wait, joke aside, Like 1:57:00.600 --> 1:57:03.440 it was very it was very touching. So I'm sure 1:57:03.440 --> 1:57:04.800 he's a nightmare to work with. 1:57:04.960 --> 1:57:07.280 But yeah, I mean I I the the thing that 1:57:07.360 --> 1:57:09.400 I like most about him is when he went up 1:57:09.440 --> 1:57:13.720 on Deep Blue or space X or whatever. No it 1:57:13.720 --> 1:57:16.000 wasn't space X because that would have exploded the Deep 1:57:16.000 --> 1:57:24.920 Blue something. Yeah, deep Blue, the Amazon one, the Amazon spacecraft. 1:57:24.920 --> 1:57:27.760 He went up on one of Bezos's little vanity trips 1:57:27.800 --> 1:57:31.680 and came back not wide eyed in wonder, but like 1:57:32.080 --> 1:57:35.879 genuinely horrified in a way that like Lovecrafty and Horror 1:57:35.880 --> 1:57:39.640 has tried to portray since Lovecraft wrote it, of just 1:57:39.680 --> 1:57:42.120 being like my god, we are. 1:57:42.040 --> 1:57:44.880 Alone yeah actually. 1:57:44.600 --> 1:57:47.840 And being like and being like why what are we 1:57:48.040 --> 1:57:49.840 doing to this planet? 1:57:50.080 --> 1:57:53.640 Like there were alone out there, yeah, and there's so 1:57:54.000 --> 1:57:58.120 much space, and oh what are we doing? 1:57:58.280 --> 1:58:01.200 And I was like, good for you? For like actually 1:58:01.760 --> 1:58:05.920 having a moment of genuine like recoiling horror, as I 1:58:05.960 --> 1:58:09.120 assume everyone actually does in space, and then lies about 1:58:09.120 --> 1:58:12.120 coming back and being like, how oh, it's so wonderful 1:58:12.120 --> 1:58:14.000 and beautiful horrifying. 1:58:14.320 --> 1:58:15.800 I actually have a lot to say about this. A 1:58:15.800 --> 1:58:18.520 couple of days ago, one of the new podcasts they 1:58:18.520 --> 1:58:21.360 have been working on is called American History Hotline, and 1:58:21.400 --> 1:58:23.960 we take like, you know, listener questions and then we 1:58:24.160 --> 1:58:26.720 have various experts come in and answer them. And one 1:58:26.760 --> 1:58:28.200 of the questions was why did we stop going to 1:58:28.240 --> 1:58:32.280 the Moon. So we had this incredible journalist and space 1:58:32.560 --> 1:58:36.280 historian and expert Andrew Chaikin, who wrote an amazing book 1:58:36.320 --> 1:58:40.240 called A Man on the Moon, which then Tom Hanks 1:58:40.280 --> 1:58:44.800 made into an HBO mini series in the late nineties 1:58:45.480 --> 1:58:47.360 I think called From the Earth to the Moon. I 1:58:47.400 --> 1:58:50.760 think something like that, but it's it's the best. It's 1:58:50.800 --> 1:58:53.280 like twelve hours long. It's like it's so long, but 1:58:53.320 --> 1:58:56.520 it's like the most thorough, amazing document of the Apollo 1:58:56.560 --> 1:58:58.440 program that I've ever seen. It's really great. So we 1:58:58.480 --> 1:59:01.400 have this historian on and we were talking about that 1:59:01.440 --> 1:59:03.320 and he mentioned Shatner coming down. He mentioned what you 1:59:03.360 --> 1:59:07.400 said about how he phrased it slightly less lovecraft Dan. 1:59:07.480 --> 1:59:09.840 He said something like, yeah, Shatner said that going up 1:59:09.840 --> 1:59:12.600 to space, I wasn't really focused on space at all. 1:59:12.640 --> 1:59:14.440 I just kept looking back at Earth and it made 1:59:14.440 --> 1:59:16.640 me realize how beautiful Earth was, which I mean, the 1:59:16.720 --> 1:59:20.360 sentiment is true. I mean, Earth is a lifeboat basically 1:59:20.720 --> 1:59:25.280 in the vast blackness of space. And there's also a 1:59:25.360 --> 1:59:30.600 phenomenon called the overview effect. And there's a book called 1:59:30.600 --> 1:59:33.960 the overview Effect that's been written about this, where basically 1:59:34.000 --> 1:59:38.080 studying the psychological effect of going into space, especially the 1:59:38.440 --> 1:59:42.440 people in the Apollo program, how it changed them in 1:59:42.520 --> 1:59:46.520 profound ways about how they just viewed life and humanity 1:59:47.080 --> 1:59:49.480 and you know, in ways you could probably expect but 1:59:49.600 --> 1:59:52.640 not truly internalize, which is like, you know, it's just 1:59:52.920 --> 1:59:56.080 the ultimate perspective check. He's going to the moon and 1:59:56.160 --> 1:59:59.560 looking back at everything you knew, everyone you knew, everyone 1:59:59.560 --> 2:00:02.840 you've ever, everything that you know about existence is just 2:00:02.840 --> 2:00:04.720 like you can stand on the moon and put your 2:00:04.720 --> 2:00:07.400 thumb up and like completely cover it with your thumb. Yeah, 2:00:07.440 --> 2:00:08.120 I would like to. 2:00:08.440 --> 2:00:11.720 I mean, just in case people thought I'm misrepresenting lovecrafting horror, 2:00:11.760 --> 2:00:12.800 I would like to read. 2:00:12.600 --> 2:00:15.320 From the op ed that William Shatner wrote, oh please 2:00:15.360 --> 2:00:17.640 please about the experience. I'm not going to do it 2:00:17.680 --> 2:00:21.760 in his voice, although maybe I should, I should try it. Yeah. 2:00:21.960 --> 2:00:24.920 I love the mystery of the universe. I love the 2:00:25.240 --> 2:00:28.400 mystery of it, all of the questions that have come 2:00:28.440 --> 2:00:31.840 to us over thousands of years of exploration and hypotheses. 2:00:32.160 --> 2:00:36.000 That's annoying, stars exploding years ago, They're light traveling to us, 2:00:36.000 --> 2:00:40.000 blah blah blah, etc. All that has throwed me for years. 2:00:40.440 --> 2:00:43.400 But when I looked in the opposite direction into space, 2:00:43.680 --> 2:00:46.560 there was no mystery, no majestic awe to behold. 2:00:47.040 --> 2:00:48.120 All I saw was death. 2:00:48.840 --> 2:00:52.680 I saw a cold, dark, black emptiness, unlike any blackness 2:00:52.680 --> 2:00:56.000 you can see or feel on Earth. It was deep, enveloping, 2:00:56.200 --> 2:00:59.120 all encompassing. I turned back toward the light of home, 2:01:00.160 --> 2:01:02.320 the curvature of Earth, the beige of the desert, the 2:01:02.360 --> 2:01:03.880 white clouds, the. 2:01:03.840 --> 2:01:07.120 Blue of the sky. Everything I had thought was wrong, 2:01:07.560 --> 2:01:10.440 Everything I had expected to see was wrong. I had 2:01:10.440 --> 2:01:12.560 thought that going into space would be the ultimate Catharsis 2:01:12.640 --> 2:01:14.400 of that connection I had been looking for between all 2:01:14.440 --> 2:01:16.600 living things, that being up there would be the next 2:01:16.600 --> 2:01:20.000 beautiful step to understanding the harmony of the universe. My trip, 2:01:20.800 --> 2:01:23.600 Yes this is the pool quote. The contrast between the 2:01:23.640 --> 2:01:25.880 vicious coldness of space and the warm nurturing of Earth 2:01:25.880 --> 2:01:29.360 below filled me with overwhelming sadness. My trip to Space 2:01:29.480 --> 2:01:32.680 was supposed to be a celebration. Instead it felt like 2:01:32.720 --> 2:01:38.960 a funeral. Wow. I mean okay, first of all, yes, 2:01:39.040 --> 2:01:43.960 as a profound sentiment and very interesting, but also sure, 2:01:44.040 --> 2:01:46.560 he's probably a nightmare to work with. But to actually 2:01:46.960 --> 2:01:50.720 have that awareness and be able to articulate it so beautifully, yeah, 2:01:50.840 --> 2:01:53.280 I mean. Also, you know, the original series or whatever 2:01:53.280 --> 2:01:55.960 it was decades ago, and he was a young a 2:01:56.000 --> 2:02:00.800 younger man. I'm sure that there's been some life's beating 2:02:00.840 --> 2:02:03.920 him down enough. Yeah. I although I think him and 2:02:04.000 --> 2:02:06.200 like Spack had a weird or him and nimoy I 2:02:06.240 --> 2:02:07.600 had a weird thing towards because. 2:02:07.440 --> 2:02:12.320 Weren't they like, well, yeah, that's like cannot stand him. Yeah, 2:02:12.480 --> 2:02:14.960 has made it like a pillar of his personality in 2:02:15.040 --> 2:02:15.600 later years. 2:02:15.760 --> 2:02:18.120 Yeah. Like I hate Bill Shatner in a way that 2:02:18.200 --> 2:02:20.920 I sort of find off putting. Okay, Well, you know 2:02:21.080 --> 2:02:22.800 you hate a guy, you hate a guy, I mean, 2:02:23.880 --> 2:02:26.720 I think that's noble. I hate people I hate people 2:02:26.720 --> 2:02:32.080 I've worked with, and yeah, I never mind. Don't you 2:02:32.120 --> 2:02:33.720 want to carry that with you for the rest of 2:02:33.760 --> 2:02:39.200 your life. My stepbrother, he was graduating from UMass. Lowell 2:02:39.240 --> 2:02:41.920 and Shatner came to speak at the commencement, and my 2:02:42.040 --> 2:02:46.240 dad always talks about how moving the speech was, about 2:02:46.240 --> 2:02:48.800 how I don't remember all of the part that I 2:02:48.840 --> 2:02:52.600 always remember my dad especially being moved by was I 2:02:52.600 --> 2:02:54.880 think it was right after Nimoy had died and he 2:02:54.960 --> 2:02:57.600 was talking about friendship and loss, and he said that 2:02:57.640 --> 2:03:02.080 the weirdest thing and the toughest thing about losing but 2:03:02.120 --> 2:03:04.480 getting you in age, when you're starting to lose your 2:03:04.480 --> 2:03:08.000 friends in sure, you know, in rapid succession, was you 2:03:08.120 --> 2:03:11.440 lose somebody to like fact check your memories with, which 2:03:11.440 --> 2:03:15.280 I thought was a very small but poignant but also 2:03:15.400 --> 2:03:19.880 that's really devastating. Yeah, that's a tough one. Yeah, And 2:03:20.760 --> 2:03:23.600 I thought that was very touching. And I think about 2:03:23.640 --> 2:03:26.160 that from time to time, that you know people that 2:03:26.240 --> 2:03:29.720 you had these really intimate experiences with that there no 2:03:29.800 --> 2:03:31.960 longer there, and then suddenly it's like you're kind of 2:03:32.040 --> 2:03:37.800 left hoping you have it right in a sense, Yeah, 2:03:37.920 --> 2:03:39.560 this is making you feel a lot of feelings that 2:03:39.600 --> 2:03:40.680 you don't like. Do you want to go back to 2:03:40.680 --> 2:03:44.760 your trailer? No? I mean I just think as much 2:03:44.760 --> 2:03:46.840 as he's probably as a gigantic egon, as much as 2:03:46.840 --> 2:03:48.720 he's probably not going to work with, I feel like 2:03:49.200 --> 2:03:53.240 he has a rich inner life. And I mean you'd 2:03:53.280 --> 2:03:55.760 have to to think spoken word was an art form. 2:03:55.800 --> 2:04:02.400 But sure that was great? Is incredible? You say that 2:04:03.360 --> 2:04:06.040 you would actually like it. It's called has been and it's. 2:04:06.200 --> 2:04:10.280 Where I know of the record because he has Joe Jackson, 2:04:10.960 --> 2:04:15.720 Joe Jackson and he covers a pulpse common Sorry. Yeah, 2:04:16.120 --> 2:04:18.680 it's a great performance from Joe Jackson. Oh yeah, Joe 2:04:18.720 --> 2:04:20.440 Jackson whips So Jackson's incredible. 2:04:20.600 --> 2:04:25.120 Not that Joe Jackson, not not no, no, yeah. The 2:04:25.160 --> 2:04:29.360 English guy contemporary of Elvis Costello, who did go out 2:04:29.400 --> 2:04:31.960 with him, Yes, and the rest. I'm shocked. You know him, 2:04:32.000 --> 2:04:34.200 he doesn't seem like something. He's English. So that's one 2:04:34.240 --> 2:04:36.240 reason why I'm shocking, you know. I you know what 2:04:36.280 --> 2:04:38.560 it was, dude. It was one of the g TA soundtracks. 2:04:38.640 --> 2:04:40.800 Had had one of his songs on one of the 2:04:40.840 --> 2:04:43.879 rings look Sharp or something like that, or stepping out, 2:04:43.960 --> 2:04:50.520 stepping out, stepping out and it was just got stuck 2:04:50.520 --> 2:04:52.839 in my head and I was like, who is this song? Rules? 2:04:52.840 --> 2:04:53.200 That sounds? 2:04:53.280 --> 2:04:54.600 And the second I found that he has a song 2:04:54.640 --> 2:05:00.040 called Everybody's. 2:04:57.600 --> 2:05:02.320 Everything gives You Cancer? There's no kill, There's no answer. Yeah, 2:05:02.600 --> 2:05:05.520 A seven out whips. Yeah. That whole album's great night 2:05:05.560 --> 2:05:09.360 and day or no day and night. Great album. Wow 2:05:09.400 --> 2:05:16.120 we went we ventured far off anyway. Oh, we never 2:05:16.160 --> 2:05:19.080 actually said what William Shattener had to say about Galaxy Quest. Okay, 2:05:19.120 --> 2:05:21.880 this is what William Shattner had to say about Galaxy Quest. 2:05:22.120 --> 2:05:24.600 I thought it was very funny, and I thought the 2:05:24.640 --> 2:05:27.920 audience that they portrayed was totally real, but the actors 2:05:27.960 --> 2:05:31.360 that they were pretending to be were totally unrecognizable. And 2:05:31.400 --> 2:05:32.480 he said that with a laugh. 2:05:33.760 --> 2:05:36.960 So good for him, I say, bully for him. Yes, 2:05:37.280 --> 2:05:41.600 in a rare moment of self awareness. Okay, so ever, 2:05:41.680 --> 2:05:44.040 since the success of the film, you know, doubled its budget. 2:05:44.080 --> 2:05:46.680 That's not nothing. People have been talking about a sequel. 2:05:47.080 --> 2:05:49.240 Tim Allen mentioned in the MTV Oral History, this was 2:05:49.280 --> 2:05:51.680 published in twenty fourteen that there was a script already 2:05:51.680 --> 2:05:54.440 written in Sigourney Weaver and Sam Rockwell mentioned that they 2:05:54.480 --> 2:05:57.440 would both be interested in returning A year later. In 2:05:57.480 --> 2:06:00.680 April twenty fifteen, Paramount Television, along with the movie's co 2:06:00.720 --> 2:06:04.959 writer Robert Gordon, director Dean Parasat, and the OG executive producers, 2:06:05.040 --> 2:06:07.640 announced they were looking to develop a television series based 2:06:07.640 --> 2:06:12.120 on Galaxy Quest, positioned similarly to Paramount's revivals of Minority 2:06:12.160 --> 2:06:15.680 Report and School of Rock as television series, but because 2:06:15.680 --> 2:06:18.960 no one takes Paramount seriously. By August of twenty fifteen, 2:06:19.040 --> 2:06:21.480 it was announced that the series was off Paramount and 2:06:21.600 --> 2:06:26.000 on at Amazon Studios. However, Alan Rickman's death in January 2:06:26.040 --> 2:06:29.960 of twenty sixteen shut that down. On the nerdst podcast 2:06:30.000 --> 2:06:32.960 in April twenty sixteen, Sam Rockwell revealed that the cast 2:06:33.000 --> 2:06:35.000 had been about ready to sign on for a follow 2:06:35.080 --> 2:06:39.600 up with Amazon, but Rickman's death, together with Allen's television schedule, 2:06:39.960 --> 2:06:43.720 proved to be insurmountable obstacles. A year after that, in 2:06:43.760 --> 2:06:46.880 November of twenty seventeen, Paul Sheer was announced as the writer, 2:06:47.320 --> 2:06:49.800 and he said that his first drafts for Amazon had 2:06:49.800 --> 2:06:53.600 been delivered. However, after Amy Powell's exit as president of 2:06:53.600 --> 2:06:57.040 Paramount Television in July twenty eighteen, Sheer said that the 2:06:57.040 --> 2:07:00.000 Galaxy Quest series had been put on hold while Paramount 2:07:00.160 --> 2:07:03.880 Management was being re established. As recently as early twenty 2:07:03.920 --> 2:07:06.560 twenty one, Tim Allen said that a film sequel script 2:07:06.600 --> 2:07:09.640 was nearly ready to go, having been heavily reworked following 2:07:09.720 --> 2:07:14.560 Rickman's death. The world was understandably not as interested at 2:07:14.560 --> 2:07:19.640 this point in US history. In June of twenty twenty one, 2:07:19.720 --> 2:07:22.480 Georgia Pritchett claimed that she had she and Simon Pegg 2:07:22.520 --> 2:07:26.320 were working on developing Galaxy Quest television series, and most 2:07:26.600 --> 2:07:30.080 relatively recently, in April of twenty twenty three, Paramount said 2:07:30.080 --> 2:07:32.320 that they were in the early stage of developing a 2:07:32.360 --> 2:07:36.760 Galaxy Quest series for their streaming service, with production overseen 2:07:36.840 --> 2:07:43.680 by Galaxy Quest's original producer Mark Johnson. You know, like 2:07:43.760 --> 2:07:46.720 I mentioned, I completely forgot how good this movie is 2:07:47.280 --> 2:07:49.720 until we got a pitch for it. And Sam Rockwall, 2:07:49.720 --> 2:07:51.480 I think, really hit it on the head in the 2:07:51.600 --> 2:07:54.920 MTV Oral History. He said, somebody must have sprinkled fairy 2:07:55.000 --> 2:07:57.720 dust on that movie, because everything just clicked into place 2:07:57.880 --> 2:08:02.400 somehow in the long run. And I agree, every single 2:08:02.400 --> 2:08:07.160 thing about it works. And this movie, like you said, 2:08:07.400 --> 2:08:08.800 like you said earlier, you on this idea of a 2:08:08.840 --> 2:08:13.720 mid budget parody with you know, actual sets and actors 2:08:13.720 --> 2:08:17.600 and everything. Those movies are gone, they are phased out 2:08:17.840 --> 2:08:23.000 and Star Trek reference. But of them, I think Galaxy 2:08:23.080 --> 2:08:26.360 Quest has like serious legs. It might be one of 2:08:26.400 --> 2:08:30.240 the most influential of any of these movies. For starters, 2:08:30.320 --> 2:08:35.840 It's lightly irreverent, more gentle, comedic tone towards Star Trek 2:08:36.600 --> 2:08:40.400 basically anticipated the tone that noted hack jj Abram that 2:08:40.440 --> 2:08:42.800 would take with his two thousand and nine reboot of 2:08:42.800 --> 2:08:45.760 Star Trek and then later years following not one but 2:08:45.840 --> 2:08:49.000 two shows Star Trek Lower Decks and Seth MacFarlane series. 2:08:49.040 --> 2:08:52.200 The Orville took this whole parody with love approach to 2:08:52.240 --> 2:08:56.879 Star Trek, and I think more trenchantly, Galaxy Quest basically 2:08:56.920 --> 2:09:00.640 predicted how twenty first century fandom would evolve. You know, 2:09:00.800 --> 2:09:03.440 fan conventions have gone from the opening scene in this movie, 2:09:03.440 --> 2:09:06.360 which are depicted as quasi sad, to these huge tent 2:09:06.440 --> 2:09:10.080 pole features every year, with major studios debuting trailers and 2:09:10.080 --> 2:09:14.480 making cast announcements. An entire online ecosystem of coverage has 2:09:14.520 --> 2:09:18.880 cropped up specifically around cons now with like costumes and 2:09:19.000 --> 2:09:21.520 all the you go to the celebrity panels, and every 2:09:21.520 --> 2:09:25.480 single minute quote from that is overanalyzed, and even just 2:09:25.520 --> 2:09:28.640 the very power that fan bases would have is somewhat 2:09:28.680 --> 2:09:31.600 depicted by this movie. You know, Family Guy was canceled 2:09:31.640 --> 2:09:34.520 like two years later, and fan campaigns brought it back. 2:09:34.960 --> 2:09:37.520 Same thing that happened with Firefly. Firefly was canceled and 2:09:37.520 --> 2:09:39.520 then they made a movie about it, spurred by the 2:09:39.560 --> 2:09:42.160 reaction of the fans to it, and coming out six 2:09:42.200 --> 2:09:45.400 months after The Phantom Menace, Galaxy Quest offered this very 2:09:45.480 --> 2:09:48.680 rosy eyed view of the power of fandom, especially on 2:09:48.720 --> 2:09:51.240 the Internet with all of these niche message boards and 2:09:51.280 --> 2:09:54.280 fan sites, and it was a very positive model for 2:09:54.440 --> 2:09:57.520 cinematic fandom that hadn't even gotten underway yet, that would 2:09:57.560 --> 2:09:59.840 only gain steam with the success of Lord of the 2:10:00.040 --> 2:10:02.320 Rings franchise. The Fellowship came out in two thousand and 2:10:02.360 --> 2:10:06.879 one Harry Potter, and then of course the Marvel Cinematic Universe, 2:10:07.160 --> 2:10:09.160 and now we're at this stage where fandom has started 2:10:09.160 --> 2:10:12.200 to curdle. As I mentioned in a different podcast, you know, 2:10:12.520 --> 2:10:15.800 you're at this point where fan reaction on Reddit can 2:10:15.840 --> 2:10:20.879 dictate the entire direction of a remake series, as famously 2:10:20.920 --> 2:10:25.480 happened with the Last Jedi, and then that direct that 2:10:25.520 --> 2:10:28.040 film's director Ryan Johnson being booted from the Star Trek 2:10:28.080 --> 2:10:33.280 franchise in favor of jj Abrams, who made the essentially 2:10:33.360 --> 2:10:37.520 remake of a New Hope that is called The Force Awakens, 2:10:38.240 --> 2:10:42.040 and then the absolute steaming pile of dog called Rise 2:10:42.080 --> 2:10:48.120 of Skywalker third film. Anyway, I could get sappy about 2:10:48.160 --> 2:10:51.960 all this. I could have a finely crafted kicker that 2:10:52.200 --> 2:10:54.360 explored the impact of what it means to truly love 2:10:54.360 --> 2:10:57.440 a piece of media and how that can curdle into obsession. 2:10:58.040 --> 2:11:01.280 But instead I'm just going to quote Sigourney Weaver's character 2:11:01.480 --> 2:11:10.839 Gwen DeMarco. Whoever wrote this episode should die. Thank you, folks, 2:11:11.200 --> 2:11:14.160 this has been too much information. I'm Alex Heigel and 2:11:14.200 --> 2:11:16.720 I'm Jordan run Tag. We'll catch you next time. 2:11:21.920 --> 2:11:24.720 Too Much Information was a production of iHeart Radio. The 2:11:24.760 --> 2:11:28.160 show's executive producers are Noel Brown and Jordan Runtalk. The 2:11:28.200 --> 2:11:32.800 show's supervising producer is Michael Alder June. 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