WEBVTT - TechStuff Classic: TechStuff Gets Flushed

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to tech Stuff, a production from I Heart Radio.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey there, and welcome to tech Stuff. I'm your host,

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<v Speaker 1>Jonathan Strickland. I'm an executive producer with I Heart Radio

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<v Speaker 1>and how the tech are you? It is time for

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<v Speaker 1>a tech Stuff classic episode. This episode originally published March eighteenth.

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<v Speaker 1>It is titled tech Stuff Gets Flushed Back when I

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<v Speaker 1>was really clever with my titles and I hope you enjoy.

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<v Speaker 1>So we are talking a mount toilets today. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be h This episode is going to be flush

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<v Speaker 1>with puns. Man, I can't take this all right, and

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<v Speaker 1>I know it's bad already, right, So before I really

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<v Speaker 1>get into that, you know, there will obviously be some

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<v Speaker 1>levity in this, but this is actually a very serious topic.

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<v Speaker 1>And to kind of illustrate that, I wanted to mention

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<v Speaker 1>something else. Now this is this is half a year

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<v Speaker 1>away from us. But November nineteenth is World Toilet Day,

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<v Speaker 1>which at first sounds kind of comedic, right, I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's hilarious. It sounds funny. It's it's an event hosted

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<v Speaker 1>by the World Toilet Organization. Still sounds at first when

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<v Speaker 1>you think about it, because the mean toilet humor has

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<v Speaker 1>become like a real it's a real industry into itself.

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<v Speaker 1>But this is not about humor. It's actually the purpose

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<v Speaker 1>of the day and the purpose of the organization is

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<v Speaker 1>to help provide support for getting proper sanitation to the

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<v Speaker 1>world's population. According to that organization, of the world's population

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<v Speaker 1>still practices open defecation. That's a billion people. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I knew a lot of people, did I didn't realize

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<v Speaker 1>it was that high a percentage. Now I saw a

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<v Speaker 1>figure back in I think two thousand nine that was

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<v Speaker 1>two point five billion people. So clearly we've made some

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<v Speaker 1>great strides in in raising sanitation levels, but there's still

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<v Speaker 1>so much work to be done. And I mean, this

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<v Speaker 1>is obviously something that we have to be concerned with

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<v Speaker 1>because it can lead to you know, pandemics or at

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<v Speaker 1>least a really bad outbreak of disease, not to mention

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<v Speaker 1>just unpleasant living conditions. Well, you know what's funny is UM.

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<v Speaker 1>I think part of it also is not just that

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<v Speaker 1>people practice open defecation, but that the a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>them don't have access to sanitary drinking water as a

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<v Speaker 1>result of their of their waste disposal. UM. But I

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<v Speaker 1>have there are places, especially in um parts of rural

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<v Speaker 1>India where open defecation is practiced, where the people are like,

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<v Speaker 1>you can put toilets in here all day long, we're

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<v Speaker 1>not going to use them because we find open defecation

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<v Speaker 1>as part of like wholesome country living. Is the way

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<v Speaker 1>that I've seen it put like it's just part and

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<v Speaker 1>parcel with being outside and you know, watching a squirrel

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<v Speaker 1>run past you while you're pooping, that kind of thing,

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<v Speaker 1>and like really taken in the whole scene. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>cultural thing at that point. Yeah, where it goes beyond,

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<v Speaker 1>it goes beyond, like it's it's not necessarily just the

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<v Speaker 1>lack of facilities, it's this has become a way of life.

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<v Speaker 1>I could understand that. I mean, I know there was

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<v Speaker 1>even some reluctance in Japan to go from the UH

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<v Speaker 1>the more trough light toilets that they used to. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there's there's much smaller percentage of the toilets in Japan

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<v Speaker 1>are those, but they still do exist. But there was

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<v Speaker 1>a large UH hesitate to use the word, movement trend

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<v Speaker 1>to going toward more western style toilets over the last

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<v Speaker 1>couple of years. I know, I'm sorry, it's gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Palette is only here in spirit, but he is here.

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<v Speaker 1>You're channeling him pretty hard. Yeah, so let's go with

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<v Speaker 1>a little history lesson before we get into how toilets

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<v Speaker 1>actually work. Now, if you're looking for the earliest evidence

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<v Speaker 1>of organized waste management systems, you look at Mesopotamia, which

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<v Speaker 1>makes sense because that's where the original civilizations. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>also a great bift two songs, But this would be

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<v Speaker 1>back at the b c E. Around approximately around that

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<v Speaker 1>era when you would see these organized systems for waste management.

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<v Speaker 1>One thing I thought was really interesting was I watched

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<v Speaker 1>a documentary about a Neolithic village that was on the

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<v Speaker 1>Orkney Islands, uh in Scotland. Um, we call it scare Bray.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the name we've given it. Because any actual records

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<v Speaker 1>of this village haven't existed for more than a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of thousand years. This village was forgotten. No one knew

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<v Speaker 1>it was even there until there was a major storm

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<v Speaker 1>that washed away some of the land that had grown

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<v Speaker 1>up built up around on top of the village. Is amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>Right when it was discovered, you immediately had a and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>there was an expedition, let's say to uncover the village,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was not led by anyone who's ever been

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<v Speaker 1>actually identified. In other words, was treasure hunters didn't probably

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<v Speaker 1>didn't find anything really of value there. There was certainly

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<v Speaker 1>no you know, hordes of gold and diamonds and jewels there. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And it wouldn't be until the nineteen thirties that a

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<v Speaker 1>more organized archaeological dig would take place. And after that

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<v Speaker 1>there was another storm and they had to actually shore

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<v Speaker 1>up the area to protect it as an archaeological site.

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<v Speaker 1>And what they found was that this tiny village, which

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<v Speaker 1>dates to around three thousand BC in Scotland, had these

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<v Speaker 1>homes that were very sophisticated. You would walk in, there'd

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<v Speaker 1>be a large bed on the right hand side, a

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<v Speaker 1>smaller bed on the left, which mirrors regular practices of

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<v Speaker 1>the time where the husband and wife. The husband would

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<v Speaker 1>have the larger of two beds. They had a fire pit,

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<v Speaker 1>a hearth, but they also had a essentially a toilet.

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<v Speaker 1>They had a stone cabinet with a hole cut so

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<v Speaker 1>that you could sit down on it, with channels that

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<v Speaker 1>lead out to the ocean, and ocean water with the

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<v Speaker 1>tides would actually flush this, so these were flushing toilets.

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<v Speaker 1>They weren't manual flush. You title flushed, so you had

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<v Speaker 1>to wait, hey it's still flushed. Yeah, it's the important

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<v Speaker 1>point in this took the waste away, right Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So all the way back to three thousand BC. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>the actual the whole area of scare breaks fascinating. So

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<v Speaker 1>definitely look into that a get a chance. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen it before. I've seen just the settlement pictures

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<v Speaker 1>of the settlement. It is pretty advanced. You don't think

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<v Speaker 1>of the Orkney Islands and three thousand b C. Is

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the seed of civilization technology. But yeah, they

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<v Speaker 1>had something going on. It's pretty surprising, yeah, because I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, when I think of of society civilization in

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<v Speaker 1>the British Islands, I'm thinking closer to you, the Roman times.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's pretty amazing how sophisticated was even back then. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Ancient Greeks also they used sewage systems to channel waste

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<v Speaker 1>away from living quarters. The Romans went even further. They

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<v Speaker 1>would have these, especially if you were a very wealthy

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<v Speaker 1>or powerful Roman. You might have a pretty styling, you know, bathroom,

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<v Speaker 1>heated seats. He did marble seats, um and it maybe

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<v Speaker 1>private from what I understood, but for the most part,

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<v Speaker 1>public bathrooms really took the public thing to the nth degree,

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<v Speaker 1>where it was just like basically a long bench with

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<v Speaker 1>different cutouts, you know, space not very far apart. Frankly, um,

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<v Speaker 1>and you'd have maybe eight or ten maybe fifteen. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw there was a public restroom in Syria. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>I think was contemporaneous to to Greece. Um that sat

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<v Speaker 1>like eighty right, and there's no partitions, there's no nothing,

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<v Speaker 1>And it seemed to be um kind of a social

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<v Speaker 1>endeavor where like you just sit there and chat with

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<v Speaker 1>somebody while you're pooping. Yeah, it's kind of funny to

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<v Speaker 1>think about how it was this communal social activity, or

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<v Speaker 1>at least it wasn't separated from any of the communal

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<v Speaker 1>and social activities, whereas today we have all these unspoken

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<v Speaker 1>rules of of you know, no talking in the bathroom,

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<v Speaker 1>you keep your dirty behavior to yourself. Yeah, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if you've ever seen it. There's actually if I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a Shinima cartoon using them, I think it's the sims

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<v Speaker 1>where it's to illustrate the rules in the men's restroom,

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<v Speaker 1>and rule number one is if there's a line of urinals.

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<v Speaker 1>You take one on either end. It doesn't matter which end,

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<v Speaker 1>just it has to be on the end. The next

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<v Speaker 1>person and has to take the one on the furthest end.

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<v Speaker 1>And then as long as there's at least one empty

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<v Speaker 1>one separating you and the next person, you can take one.

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<v Speaker 1>But if there isn't, you gotta leave, like like there's

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<v Speaker 1>it was this crazy series of but it was a

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<v Speaker 1>series of rules where and then the comedy came from

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that you're like, this is kind of how

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<v Speaker 1>guys behave in the bathroom. For me, it's the cardinal

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<v Speaker 1>rule is if there's two two stalls, um, and the

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<v Speaker 1>doors shut on one, then both are occupied by by default.

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<v Speaker 1>That must make it difficult here in this office because

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<v Speaker 1>the bathrooms go uh floor to ceiling with the doors

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<v Speaker 1>and they're shut all the time. So that's that's different

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<v Speaker 1>like that these bathrooms are prime real estate in my opinion.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you remember in the last place where aust

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<v Speaker 1>the First was headquartered, it was, you know, just a

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<v Speaker 1>partition and you can see feet and everything, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>that's just to me, like we we really have advanced

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<v Speaker 1>to the point where you know it is a private

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<v Speaker 1>act and um, it's not to be shared. It's not public.

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<v Speaker 1>We're not in ancient grease any longer. Um. And so

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<v Speaker 1>if somebody's in a stall, you don't sit down next

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<v Speaker 1>to I just I really feel strongly about that. I

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<v Speaker 1>can understand. And it's interesting because when we get into

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<v Speaker 1>advanced toilets like the Japanese toilets, they take that to

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<v Speaker 1>the next level to create another another level of privacy

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<v Speaker 1>for that. Yeah, it's pretty neat, Like you swipe your

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<v Speaker 1>hand in front of a sensor and it takes you

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<v Speaker 1>to the seventh dimension, completely out of reach of anybody here.

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<v Speaker 1>It's you and and that's it. He's in the ninth,

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<v Speaker 1>isn't it. Yeah, I think he is, or the tenth.

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<v Speaker 1>That's one of those. Yeah. So one of the other

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<v Speaker 1>things we can talk about before we move into the

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<v Speaker 1>earliest flush toilet is that when you're looking at say

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<v Speaker 1>Europe in the Middle Ages all the way up into

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<v Speaker 1>the Renaissance. Uh, you're talking about especially like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think about castles I frequently. I do, I really

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<v Speaker 1>do frequently think about castles. Um. Their facilities were pretty primitive.

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<v Speaker 1>It was essentially a hole cut into the you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like a like a stone seat, sometimes with a wooden

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<v Speaker 1>panel on top of it. Uh that then had a

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<v Speaker 1>channel that that slanted away from the wall, and your

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<v Speaker 1>your waist would drop down either into a cesspit, a moat, moat,

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes just the ground. On the invading armies, that is

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<v Speaker 1>also a possibility. And these were called garter robes, and

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<v Speaker 1>they were also closets. They weren't just bathrooms. They were

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<v Speaker 1>closets you would hang your clothing because the ammonia from

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<v Speaker 1>your urine would kill fleas. Oh wow, that is very

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<v Speaker 1>surprisingly clever. It's not scar break clever, but it's up there.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you're wondering when the first flush toilet comes along,

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<v Speaker 1>it's actually a lot earlier than I had anticipated. It's weird.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how I never came across this back before.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's one that, by the way, a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people in our office. It comes from fift nineties six

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<v Speaker 1>John Harrington. Yes, he was a cousin I think of

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<v Speaker 1>um Elizabeth the first Yeah, he was her godson. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what it was. And he designed this flushing toilet

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<v Speaker 1>or prototype of a flushing toilet for her. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>she probably didn't use it very much. She didn't admit

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<v Speaker 1>to it. She was a queen, and technically, when you're

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<v Speaker 1>queen you can pretty much poop wherever you like. Someone's

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<v Speaker 1>going to take care of it. But he called it

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<v Speaker 1>the ajax. No, here's the thing. John Harrington was a rake.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, he was like Greg ken hear level rake,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, kind of like. He was known for passing

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<v Speaker 1>around lewd poetry to the ladies of the court. He

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<v Speaker 1>loved too. He was very clever and he loved being

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<v Speaker 1>clever and so lewd poetry flushing toilets well, he called

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<v Speaker 1>it the ajax as a pun. It's a pun on

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<v Speaker 1>the term jake's, which is a euphemism for toilet. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like the john it's the jake's, So a jax is

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<v Speaker 1>a pun on jake's. And it had a pan into

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<v Speaker 1>which one would do one's business and assist turn that

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<v Speaker 1>you could pump water up into, and then a handle

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<v Speaker 1>and when you pulled the handle, it opened up a

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<v Speaker 1>valve that allowed the water from the cistern to come

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<v Speaker 1>down and wash away what was in the pan down

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<v Speaker 1>through a channel that would go out to assess pool

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<v Speaker 1>onto an invading army, or onto an invading army as

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<v Speaker 1>the case may be. As far as I know, he

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<v Speaker 1>only built two. I think he built one for the

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<v Speaker 1>queen and one for himself. Uh So it was an

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<v Speaker 1>interesting idea, did not catch on at the time. Uh

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<v Speaker 1>it really just showed his inventiveness. To to look at

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<v Speaker 1>the next approach to the flushing toilet, you have to

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<v Speaker 1>go ahead by almost two hundred years Alexander coming exactly,

0:14:01.400 --> 0:14:05.440
<v Speaker 1>and he he invented something that ended up being very

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<v Speaker 1>important for the flushing toilet, the S trap. Yeah, so

0:14:08.840 --> 0:14:13.480
<v Speaker 1>much so that it's still basically the design of toilets today. Yeah. Now,

0:14:13.520 --> 0:14:16.440
<v Speaker 1>this is the pipes that you see that lead out

0:14:16.480 --> 0:14:18.640
<v Speaker 1>from your toilet, and it's called an S trap because

0:14:18.679 --> 0:14:21.240
<v Speaker 1>it's in that S shape, right, Yeah, or some people

0:14:21.440 --> 0:14:23.960
<v Speaker 1>consider it an upside down you or something like that.

0:14:24.080 --> 0:14:26.040
<v Speaker 1>It all depends on one how much of it you

0:14:26.080 --> 0:14:29.440
<v Speaker 1>can see and to exactly what implementation it is. But yeah,

0:14:29.480 --> 0:14:31.720
<v Speaker 1>the U trap is another way of looking at an

0:14:31.760 --> 0:14:35.480
<v Speaker 1>upside on you. Uh So. The important thing about this

0:14:35.800 --> 0:14:39.640
<v Speaker 1>was that it would allow uh it would well trap

0:14:40.240 --> 0:14:43.280
<v Speaker 1>water once it had gone down the pipe from coming

0:14:43.280 --> 0:14:47.480
<v Speaker 1>back up, and it would also thus trap the smell, Yes,

0:14:47.560 --> 0:14:50.720
<v Speaker 1>which is very important with sewers because if you're taking

0:14:50.760 --> 0:14:56.080
<v Speaker 1>a piece of technology and connecting it to an open sewer. Yeah,

0:14:56.440 --> 0:14:59.240
<v Speaker 1>the smell is gonna be something. Yeah, it's gonna be

0:14:59.520 --> 0:15:01.520
<v Speaker 1>how to take care that? And he did with the

0:15:01.640 --> 0:15:05.720
<v Speaker 1>s trap. Yeah, and it was really a brilliant idea

0:15:05.720 --> 0:15:09.160
<v Speaker 1>and also so much so strickly that like three two

0:15:09.240 --> 0:15:13.720
<v Speaker 1>hundred years later, two fifty years later, Um, we're still

0:15:13.880 --> 0:15:18.080
<v Speaker 1>using this guy's design. It is not been improved upon

0:15:18.560 --> 0:15:21.360
<v Speaker 1>in two hundred and fifty years. Right there. There are

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of other variations on it, but it has

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<v Speaker 1>the basic design is still what we rely upon because

0:15:28.760 --> 0:15:32.120
<v Speaker 1>it works. Has no moving parts for just that that pipe,

0:15:32.600 --> 0:15:35.720
<v Speaker 1>so it can't break down in that sense. I could

0:15:35.760 --> 0:15:38.760
<v Speaker 1>still get clogged. Maybe we'll talk a bit about clogs later. Yeah, well,

0:15:38.760 --> 0:15:41.440
<v Speaker 1>you know you gotta talk about it. I didn't. I

0:15:41.520 --> 0:15:43.520
<v Speaker 1>did not know we were going to talk about clogs. Well,

0:15:43.520 --> 0:15:46.240
<v Speaker 1>I apologize. If you want, you can check out for

0:15:46.320 --> 0:15:48.720
<v Speaker 1>that part of the yet, I'll go to my happy place.

0:15:48.760 --> 0:15:53.600
<v Speaker 1>That's good. Yeah, we'll just watch you kind of stare space. Um.

0:15:53.640 --> 0:15:57.120
<v Speaker 1>But it also he also invented a sliding valve between

0:15:57.160 --> 0:15:59.280
<v Speaker 1>the bowl and the trap, which allowed some water to

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<v Speaker 1>stay in a bowl after you flushed, so that it

0:16:03.640 --> 0:16:06.320
<v Speaker 1>could hold on to the waist for the next time,

0:16:06.360 --> 0:16:10.120
<v Speaker 1>and so you didn't just have just an empty bowl

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<v Speaker 1>of waste and then put water into it. It was

0:16:13.600 --> 0:16:16.720
<v Speaker 1>you know, it actually improved the performance quite a bit.

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<v Speaker 1>And you had a lot of other inventors who followed,

0:16:19.240 --> 0:16:23.480
<v Speaker 1>like Samuel Prosser, Joseph Brama, Thomas Twyford. They all made

0:16:23.560 --> 0:16:26.560
<v Speaker 1>improvements to the basic design of the toilet. We're gonna

0:16:26.560 --> 0:16:28.920
<v Speaker 1>take a quick bathroom break, but we'll be right back

0:16:28.960 --> 0:16:39.840
<v Speaker 1>with more tech. Stuff gets flushed. Okay, So you may

0:16:39.920 --> 0:16:45.720
<v Speaker 1>have heard the somewhat apocryphal tale that the toilet was

0:16:45.760 --> 0:16:50.200
<v Speaker 1>invented by a man named Thomas Crapper. Apply enough, Yeah,

0:16:50.240 --> 0:16:53.720
<v Speaker 1>one of those ha ha. Isn't it ironic? Don't you think?

0:16:53.760 --> 0:16:58.320
<v Speaker 1>Alanis Morris At moments, you know, I think it might be.

0:16:58.600 --> 0:17:00.640
<v Speaker 1>It's like it's like rain on your wedding day, It's

0:17:00.640 --> 0:17:03.120
<v Speaker 1>like Thomas Crapper making a toilet, But I'm pretty sure

0:17:03.120 --> 0:17:08.280
<v Speaker 1>that's the way it goes. Um. Thomas Crapper, as far

0:17:08.320 --> 0:17:11.200
<v Speaker 1>as we can tell, was actually a person. There are

0:17:11.280 --> 0:17:14.040
<v Speaker 1>records of a Thomas Crapper who who held patents in

0:17:14.040 --> 0:17:17.439
<v Speaker 1>the nineteenth century and their plumbing patents, and some of

0:17:17.440 --> 0:17:21.120
<v Speaker 1>them in fact involve improvements to the water closet or toilet.

0:17:21.840 --> 0:17:25.760
<v Speaker 1>But he didn't invent it um, and he may not

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<v Speaker 1>have had that big of an impact overall on the

0:17:30.400 --> 0:17:33.640
<v Speaker 1>toilet evolution. It's just one of those facts that kind

0:17:33.640 --> 0:17:35.919
<v Speaker 1>of got passed around, as you know, or one of

0:17:35.920 --> 0:17:38.760
<v Speaker 1>those those tidbits that gets passed around. The total truth.

0:17:39.920 --> 0:17:46.760
<v Speaker 1>Plus he pronounced his name crep it's crepe Um. Yeah

0:17:46.880 --> 0:17:49.879
<v Speaker 1>it was. It's one of those things where I actually

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<v Speaker 1>looked into it too, because it was like, well I've

0:17:51.840 --> 0:17:54.000
<v Speaker 1>always heard that as well, and I'm curious where that

0:17:54.000 --> 0:17:56.000
<v Speaker 1>came out. Well, yeah it is. It's got it has

0:17:56.119 --> 0:18:01.560
<v Speaker 1>traction because it's just so delightful. Yeah yeah, uh. Going

0:18:01.600 --> 0:18:05.120
<v Speaker 1>back to mid forty eight in the UK, that's when

0:18:05.119 --> 0:18:07.800
<v Speaker 1>they passed the Public Health Act which stated that all

0:18:07.880 --> 0:18:10.480
<v Speaker 1>new houses in the UK had to be built with

0:18:10.520 --> 0:18:14.400
<v Speaker 1>a toilet. Very smart. Yeah, it's a great way of

0:18:14.440 --> 0:18:19.040
<v Speaker 1>preserving your your various towns and cities from becoming overrun

0:18:19.040 --> 0:18:23.480
<v Speaker 1>with filth. Right. But then, and this is still um

0:18:23.520 --> 0:18:28.639
<v Speaker 1>in play today. There's a certain psychology around defecation, urination,

0:18:29.160 --> 0:18:34.639
<v Speaker 1>expelling waste, right, and it can swing wildly from era

0:18:34.800 --> 0:18:38.840
<v Speaker 1>to era, but at that time, in the mid nineteenth century,

0:18:38.880 --> 0:18:43.159
<v Speaker 1>forcing the public to install indoor plumbing wasn't like the

0:18:43.200 --> 0:18:48.119
<v Speaker 1>public was saying, yes, thank you government, we've been waiting

0:18:48.160 --> 0:18:51.920
<v Speaker 1>to have to do this. It was more like, um, wait,

0:18:51.960 --> 0:18:54.080
<v Speaker 1>you want us to put a toilet where next to

0:18:54.119 --> 0:18:57.720
<v Speaker 1>the kitchen? What is wrong with you? No, that's disgusting.

0:18:57.920 --> 0:18:59.840
<v Speaker 1>We want to put this over in the back garden

0:19:00.000 --> 0:19:03.520
<v Speaker 1>where you know, you know, achiever pot. It's mobile that

0:19:03.560 --> 0:19:06.119
<v Speaker 1>we can put wherever and get rid of immediately, Like

0:19:06.160 --> 0:19:08.080
<v Speaker 1>this is gross, Like you want us to hook it

0:19:08.160 --> 0:19:10.600
<v Speaker 1>up to the sewer? What's wrong with you? So there

0:19:10.680 --> 0:19:15.159
<v Speaker 1>was like a certain amount of resistance to adopting this,

0:19:16.040 --> 0:19:19.639
<v Speaker 1>whereas now, um, you know, it's yeah, you want that,

0:19:19.680 --> 0:19:24.160
<v Speaker 1>you want indoor plumbing, And it's based on the cultural

0:19:24.200 --> 0:19:28.680
<v Speaker 1>attitudes toward expelling waste that that vary from time to time. Yeah,

0:19:28.720 --> 0:19:30.800
<v Speaker 1>it's it's it's hard. I mean, it's very easy for

0:19:30.880 --> 0:19:34.119
<v Speaker 1>us to start looking at everything from our current perspective, right,

0:19:34.119 --> 0:19:36.439
<v Speaker 1>It's very difficult to take ourselves out of that. But

0:19:36.520 --> 0:19:38.120
<v Speaker 1>you do have to do that when you start talking

0:19:38.119 --> 0:19:41.960
<v Speaker 1>about subjects like this. Because it was a different world

0:19:42.160 --> 0:19:46.119
<v Speaker 1>I mean people thought differently and for for reasons that

0:19:46.160 --> 0:19:48.159
<v Speaker 1>you can kind of understand when you think about it.

0:19:48.680 --> 0:19:51.240
<v Speaker 1>And you know, if you think, well, now I've got

0:19:51.240 --> 0:19:55.280
<v Speaker 1>a thing that dumps waste into a sewer, but I

0:19:55.320 --> 0:19:58.160
<v Speaker 1>don't want any of that smell or nastiness or anything

0:19:58.200 --> 0:20:00.879
<v Speaker 1>to get into my home. When four I had a

0:20:00.960 --> 0:20:03.560
<v Speaker 1>portable thing, I could actually take it outside and dump

0:20:03.640 --> 0:20:06.440
<v Speaker 1>it in a cess pool or whatever. It wasn't there

0:20:06.480 --> 0:20:11.800
<v Speaker 1>wasn't a big change. Plus plus, it's like that's my poop. Yeah,

0:20:11.840 --> 0:20:14.200
<v Speaker 1>it's poop, but it's I know where that poop came from.

0:20:14.480 --> 0:20:17.440
<v Speaker 1>Whereas with the sewer, everybody else's poop has the opportunity

0:20:17.480 --> 0:20:20.320
<v Speaker 1>to come into your house, yeah, which you don't know,

0:20:20.440 --> 0:20:24.399
<v Speaker 1>you didn't want, don't want that. Another interesting point is

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<v Speaker 1>I've been talking exclusively about people inventors and engineers in

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<v Speaker 1>the UK. Now, when settlers came over to America, they

0:20:34.040 --> 0:20:37.320
<v Speaker 1>did not come over with plans for toilets, and so

0:20:37.480 --> 0:20:41.320
<v Speaker 1>the toilet actually had a parallel evolution in the UK

0:20:41.600 --> 0:20:44.959
<v Speaker 1>and in the United States evolved in isolation basically a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit, yes with with a little bit. I mean

0:20:47.160 --> 0:20:50.639
<v Speaker 1>they obviously had some common history there, but it was

0:20:51.119 --> 0:20:56.600
<v Speaker 1>largely engineers in the US who created very similar style toilets.

0:20:56.600 --> 0:20:59.040
<v Speaker 1>In some cases, they were toilets that were lagging behind

0:20:59.480 --> 0:21:03.480
<v Speaker 1>the tech anology by about twenty years compared to the UK.

0:21:04.040 --> 0:21:06.200
<v Speaker 1>But you had folks like James T. Henry and William

0:21:06.240 --> 0:21:08.280
<v Speaker 1>Campbell who were awarded a U. S. Patent for a

0:21:08.280 --> 0:21:12.720
<v Speaker 1>water closet toilet um. And that's where we really see

0:21:12.760 --> 0:21:16.280
<v Speaker 1>it moving forward from that point on and to the

0:21:16.320 --> 0:21:19.399
<v Speaker 1>point where they essentially merged like the the You know

0:21:19.440 --> 0:21:22.760
<v Speaker 1>that we saw the United States adopt things like the

0:21:22.960 --> 0:21:27.359
<v Speaker 1>s trap, uh, making the toilets more useful. Um, do

0:21:27.359 --> 0:21:30.840
<v Speaker 1>you know when toilet paper was invented? Toilet paper was

0:21:30.920 --> 0:21:38.840
<v Speaker 1>invented in ninety eight. I predate ninety eight, and I

0:21:38.920 --> 0:21:44.159
<v Speaker 1>distinctly remember toilet paper. You were off by almost a

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<v Speaker 1>hundred years when toilet paper was invented, didn't They used

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<v Speaker 1>to use the series robot catalogs Corn Cob. There's actually

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<v Speaker 1>some poetry that I've read where there's a discussion a giant.

0:21:59.240 --> 0:22:01.199
<v Speaker 1>I forget what whim it is, but there's a giant

0:22:01.320 --> 0:22:06.120
<v Speaker 1>talking about all the different things he has used to

0:22:06.160 --> 0:22:12.440
<v Speaker 1>clean himself after after evacuation, including I think he determined

0:22:12.480 --> 0:22:16.040
<v Speaker 1>that the most comfortable was the neck of a goose.

0:22:16.600 --> 0:22:19.600
<v Speaker 1>Oh that is nice. Yeah, not not for the goose,

0:22:19.680 --> 0:22:22.960
<v Speaker 1>but yeah uh so. Yeah. The toilet paper was in

0:22:23.800 --> 0:22:27.120
<v Speaker 1>but not marketed heavily until nineteen two, so for more

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<v Speaker 1>than a decade. Yeah, it just kind of I was like, well,

0:22:30.280 --> 0:22:33.159
<v Speaker 1>I mean, why we got the series robot catalog Cobs.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you look around your house and say, oh, yeah,

0:22:37.560 --> 0:22:40.160
<v Speaker 1>corn Cob, that's a that's a good idea, bad idea. Yeah,

0:22:40.240 --> 0:22:44.400
<v Speaker 1>sure it's got traction, but pay a price for that track. Yeah,

0:22:44.560 --> 0:22:50.640
<v Speaker 1>I I hesitate to hazard a guess, to be honest,

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<v Speaker 1>idea to have some at home? All right, okay, well

0:22:55.280 --> 0:23:01.560
<v Speaker 1>I'd like to apologize on behalf of Josh's gee. I'd

0:23:01.560 --> 0:23:04.080
<v Speaker 1>like to extend to you my apologies for giving him

0:23:04.119 --> 0:23:08.520
<v Speaker 1>the idea. Let's talk about how a toilet actually works. Okay, alright,

0:23:08.600 --> 0:23:11.160
<v Speaker 1>So you got your basic parts of the toilet. You've

0:23:11.160 --> 0:23:14.720
<v Speaker 1>got the tank, You've got the bowl in which you

0:23:14.760 --> 0:23:18.199
<v Speaker 1>do your business, and then you have the siphon the

0:23:18.400 --> 0:23:22.240
<v Speaker 1>s trap area that where the waist goes once you flush,

0:23:22.320 --> 0:23:25.480
<v Speaker 1>which is technically part of the bowl. Yeah. Yeah, it's

0:23:25.480 --> 0:23:27.919
<v Speaker 1>just it's easier to talk about it as separate parts.

0:23:27.960 --> 0:23:31.679
<v Speaker 1>But yes, you aren't correct. So inside the tank you

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<v Speaker 1>have the flush valve. This is the valve that allows

0:23:35.760 --> 0:23:38.560
<v Speaker 1>water to flow out of the tank and into the bowl. Yes,

0:23:38.600 --> 0:23:41.360
<v Speaker 1>so when you press down the handle, yeah, there's that

0:23:41.480 --> 0:23:44.680
<v Speaker 1>handle is connected by chain to that flush valve. That's

0:23:44.720 --> 0:23:46.640
<v Speaker 1>the thing that lifts up and lets the water from

0:23:46.680 --> 0:23:49.080
<v Speaker 1>the tank into the bowl. Yeah. And once the water

0:23:49.200 --> 0:23:52.000
<v Speaker 1>is flowing down, like for most toilets, you no longer

0:23:52.040 --> 0:23:55.760
<v Speaker 1>have to hold the handle down because just the water itself.

0:23:55.840 --> 0:23:58.080
<v Speaker 1>Once the valve is an open position, it will remain

0:23:58.119 --> 0:24:00.080
<v Speaker 1>open until the water level is low enough for it

0:24:00.119 --> 0:24:02.600
<v Speaker 1>to close again. Yeah, they make it so it's light

0:24:02.720 --> 0:24:07.400
<v Speaker 1>enough to float. Yeah, right, because it's overcome suction thanks

0:24:07.440 --> 0:24:09.880
<v Speaker 1>to the handle um and it's floating there, and then

0:24:09.880 --> 0:24:12.440
<v Speaker 1>as the water drains out, its ability to float stop,

0:24:12.480 --> 0:24:16.240
<v Speaker 1>so it falls back into place. Ideally. Ideally, Yeah, there

0:24:16.240 --> 0:24:19.000
<v Speaker 1>are times obviously, if you have issues where maybe there's

0:24:19.000 --> 0:24:22.639
<v Speaker 1>a hinge that's a little too tight, or there's something

0:24:22.680 --> 0:24:26.320
<v Speaker 1>off with the sela of on the the valve, that

0:24:26.440 --> 0:24:28.640
<v Speaker 1>you may have to have that replaced, because otherwise water

0:24:28.760 --> 0:24:32.920
<v Speaker 1>just continuously flows into the bowl and it never accumulates

0:24:32.920 --> 0:24:35.160
<v Speaker 1>in the tank. I found that most of the time

0:24:35.160 --> 0:24:38.240
<v Speaker 1>it's because there's a little bit of extra chain that's

0:24:38.320 --> 0:24:44.640
<v Speaker 1>keeping the flush valve from sitting in suction from from generating. Uh.

0:24:44.920 --> 0:24:47.520
<v Speaker 1>You you also have a second valve inside the tank,

0:24:47.920 --> 0:24:51.240
<v Speaker 1>the filler valve. The filler valve is what allows water

0:24:51.359 --> 0:24:54.159
<v Speaker 1>to go into the tank as well as into the

0:24:54.160 --> 0:24:58.600
<v Speaker 1>bowl after a flush, so uh it needs to it

0:24:58.920 --> 0:25:01.199
<v Speaker 1>refills the tank after you flushed it. So you flushed

0:25:01.200 --> 0:25:04.920
<v Speaker 1>the tank, the water from the filler valve will start

0:25:04.960 --> 0:25:07.560
<v Speaker 1>to pour into the tank to refill it. Once that

0:25:07.560 --> 0:25:11.040
<v Speaker 1>that flush valve has shut uh. Some of that water

0:25:11.160 --> 0:25:13.680
<v Speaker 1>also will go into the bowl to bring the level

0:25:13.680 --> 0:25:17.840
<v Speaker 1>back up to the proper height. And then you've got

0:25:17.880 --> 0:25:21.600
<v Speaker 1>a filler float. This is a yeah, this is a

0:25:21.640 --> 0:25:24.920
<v Speaker 1>brilliant idea. The idea is that the filler float will

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<v Speaker 1>rise to a certain level within the tank, and once

0:25:27.440 --> 0:25:30.320
<v Speaker 1>it's at the proper level, it will activate a switch

0:25:30.520 --> 0:25:34.080
<v Speaker 1>then turns off the filler valve, so so that way

0:25:34.119 --> 0:25:36.520
<v Speaker 1>you no longer have water running in your tank. If

0:25:36.560 --> 0:25:39.520
<v Speaker 1>you ever hear water continuously running in your tank, it

0:25:39.600 --> 0:25:42.439
<v Speaker 1>means that float is not activating the switch properly, and

0:25:42.480 --> 0:25:45.400
<v Speaker 1>you may need to take the lid off and see

0:25:45.560 --> 0:25:48.680
<v Speaker 1>what's going on with that float. Maybe it's stuck on something,

0:25:49.680 --> 0:25:52.560
<v Speaker 1>or it's you know, it's it's the switch might be

0:25:52.600 --> 0:25:54.159
<v Speaker 1>burnt out, in which case you would need to have

0:25:54.200 --> 0:25:58.560
<v Speaker 1>that switch replaced. But that's what's causing that or this Again,

0:25:58.600 --> 0:26:00.600
<v Speaker 1>the flush valve could be not seen and popular in

0:26:00.640 --> 0:26:04.080
<v Speaker 1>water is just rushing out, So that's filler valve. Balloon

0:26:04.680 --> 0:26:07.320
<v Speaker 1>isn't getting to that level where it's supposed to where

0:26:07.320 --> 0:26:10.159
<v Speaker 1>it can trip the filler valve from turning off again,

0:26:10.320 --> 0:26:13.680
<v Speaker 1>right exactly. Yeah, that could be another another cause for it.

0:26:13.760 --> 0:26:16.280
<v Speaker 1>But you don't have to fear because even if the

0:26:16.280 --> 0:26:19.720
<v Speaker 1>water is running, your toilet will very likely not overflow

0:26:19.760 --> 0:26:22.320
<v Speaker 1>because it's been designed so that as the tank fills,

0:26:22.840 --> 0:26:25.880
<v Speaker 1>even if it keeps filling and filling and filling, it's

0:26:25.880 --> 0:26:29.159
<v Speaker 1>going to the overflow um tube, I guess, is going

0:26:29.200 --> 0:26:32.720
<v Speaker 1>to direct that into the bowl. Right, So any water

0:26:32.840 --> 0:26:36.200
<v Speaker 1>that comes above the height of the overflow tube will

0:26:36.320 --> 0:26:39.119
<v Speaker 1>just flow down the tube. The tube leads to the

0:26:39.160 --> 0:26:41.800
<v Speaker 1>bowl and water will flow into the bowl. And then

0:26:41.800 --> 0:26:44.360
<v Speaker 1>you think, wait, wait, wait that cause it to flush. Yes,

0:26:44.520 --> 0:26:47.880
<v Speaker 1>surely somewhere this thing's got to flood what's the deal.

0:26:48.000 --> 0:26:50.520
<v Speaker 1>Why doesn't it all right? That's when we get into

0:26:50.600 --> 0:26:53.439
<v Speaker 1>the siphon where my head pops. Yeah, this is the

0:26:53.440 --> 0:26:56.199
<v Speaker 1>sciphen gets a little for those who those of us

0:26:56.240 --> 0:26:59.280
<v Speaker 1>who are many years away from basic physics, the scipen

0:26:59.400 --> 0:27:03.879
<v Speaker 1>gets confused. So the siphon is designed. So this is

0:27:03.920 --> 0:27:06.280
<v Speaker 1>that that sort of upside down you or the s

0:27:06.280 --> 0:27:10.040
<v Speaker 1>shaped pipe the top of that upside down you the

0:27:10.080 --> 0:27:13.639
<v Speaker 1>peak there that's at the same level as what the

0:27:14.080 --> 0:27:16.600
<v Speaker 1>toilet bowl, the level of water and your toilet bowl

0:27:16.640 --> 0:27:19.560
<v Speaker 1>will be. Now, if you were to pour more water

0:27:20.040 --> 0:27:23.000
<v Speaker 1>into the toilet bowl, because there's there's just this open

0:27:23.080 --> 0:27:27.520
<v Speaker 1>area between the siphon and the bowl. You know, putting

0:27:27.520 --> 0:27:30.920
<v Speaker 1>more water in makes the water level rise on both sides, right,

0:27:31.480 --> 0:27:33.879
<v Speaker 1>But if you're only putting in a little bit of water,

0:27:34.280 --> 0:27:37.440
<v Speaker 1>that water will just rise up above the level of

0:27:37.600 --> 0:27:41.440
<v Speaker 1>the bend and flow down the other side of the bend. Yeah,

0:27:41.480 --> 0:27:44.400
<v Speaker 1>And and I should I want to point out that, um,

0:27:44.520 --> 0:27:48.359
<v Speaker 1>this is your explanation is spot on, but would be

0:27:48.440 --> 0:27:51.639
<v Speaker 1>exponentially easier if somebody were looking at a cross section

0:27:51.680 --> 0:27:55.120
<v Speaker 1>of a toilet flushing s valve right exactly. Yeah, Yeah,

0:27:55.400 --> 0:27:57.800
<v Speaker 1>it would really drive at home, Yeah, because it's it's

0:27:57.840 --> 0:28:00.159
<v Speaker 1>this is me trying to paint a picture of a

0:28:00.200 --> 0:28:04.520
<v Speaker 1>toilet plush in words, yeah, with physics. Yeah, So you've

0:28:04.560 --> 0:28:06.800
<v Speaker 1>got you've got this this level here, and as long

0:28:06.800 --> 0:28:09.520
<v Speaker 1>as the water is just flowing gently so for in

0:28:09.520 --> 0:28:12.400
<v Speaker 1>other words, like a steady stream from the overflow too,

0:28:12.760 --> 0:28:16.479
<v Speaker 1>then it's just going to gradually rise up till it

0:28:16.560 --> 0:28:19.800
<v Speaker 1>hits above that you bend and then flow down the

0:28:19.840 --> 0:28:22.280
<v Speaker 1>other side. And that's all that happens, because it's not

0:28:22.440 --> 0:28:25.680
<v Speaker 1>it's not creating the siphon effect yet. Yes, So the

0:28:26.160 --> 0:28:29.359
<v Speaker 1>water is in that in that s trap and in

0:28:29.400 --> 0:28:32.840
<v Speaker 1>your toilet bowl, and on the other side of the siphon,

0:28:33.040 --> 0:28:36.320
<v Speaker 1>in the tube that leads down to the sewer, that

0:28:36.320 --> 0:28:39.520
<v Speaker 1>that air is imbalanced with the air that's in the

0:28:39.520 --> 0:28:43.240
<v Speaker 1>toilet bowl, right, So you basically have air pressure balancing

0:28:43.240 --> 0:28:46.240
<v Speaker 1>your water and keeping it in place. Yep, yep. And

0:28:46.280 --> 0:28:49.400
<v Speaker 1>it's only if you were to fill that siphon, that

0:28:49.480 --> 0:28:53.280
<v Speaker 1>s trap with water completely that that then things get

0:28:53.320 --> 0:28:56.640
<v Speaker 1>out of balance. And here's where the siphon affect comes

0:28:56.640 --> 0:29:00.320
<v Speaker 1>into play. So how does a siphon work all? Right?

0:29:00.360 --> 0:29:02.520
<v Speaker 1>First of all, siphons a bent tube used to move

0:29:02.520 --> 0:29:06.680
<v Speaker 1>a liquid from a high evolution elevation rather over an

0:29:06.680 --> 0:29:11.520
<v Speaker 1>obstruction and to a lower elevation. Done and done right.

0:29:12.000 --> 0:29:14.920
<v Speaker 1>You could do this very easily by taking two cups,

0:29:15.000 --> 0:29:18.480
<v Speaker 1>filling one cup with water, putting a couple of books

0:29:18.480 --> 0:29:21.160
<v Speaker 1>down on a table. So you put the cup full

0:29:21.240 --> 0:29:23.200
<v Speaker 1>of water on top of one of the set of books.

0:29:23.640 --> 0:29:26.040
<v Speaker 1>Get a tube, like a flexible tube of some sort,

0:29:26.480 --> 0:29:28.920
<v Speaker 1>submerge it in the water so that the tube fills

0:29:28.960 --> 0:29:30.800
<v Speaker 1>with water. Put your thumb over one end of it.

0:29:31.600 --> 0:29:34.120
<v Speaker 1>Move it over to the other cup, which is on

0:29:34.160 --> 0:29:37.720
<v Speaker 1>the surface of the table. Yeah, make sure that the

0:29:37.920 --> 0:29:39.960
<v Speaker 1>make sure that the end of the tube that you're

0:29:40.000 --> 0:29:42.480
<v Speaker 1>holding ends up being lower than the level of water

0:29:42.720 --> 0:29:46.520
<v Speaker 1>in the cup. Let go. Water will start to flow

0:29:46.760 --> 0:29:49.960
<v Speaker 1>from the cup that's above to the cup that's blow

0:29:50.040 --> 0:29:53.240
<v Speaker 1>even though the tube will arc so the water is

0:29:53.280 --> 0:29:56.680
<v Speaker 1>technically flowing uphill. Yeah, which is pretty neat. Yeah. As

0:29:56.720 --> 0:29:59.440
<v Speaker 1>long as the lower end of the tube going into

0:29:59.440 --> 0:30:04.200
<v Speaker 1>the lower elevation glass um, as long as that is

0:30:04.280 --> 0:30:08.400
<v Speaker 1>exposed to air, and as long as the end of

0:30:08.440 --> 0:30:11.240
<v Speaker 1>the tube that's in the higher glass is under water,

0:30:11.880 --> 0:30:14.240
<v Speaker 1>the air pressure in the tube is overcome and the

0:30:14.280 --> 0:30:17.760
<v Speaker 1>suction effect takes place right well kind of, except that

0:30:17.840 --> 0:30:20.160
<v Speaker 1>the other the tube in the lower elevation does not

0:30:20.280 --> 0:30:22.160
<v Speaker 1>have to be above water. It can be. It can

0:30:22.200 --> 0:30:25.120
<v Speaker 1>actually be completely submerged as well as long. What will

0:30:25.120 --> 0:30:28.800
<v Speaker 1>happen is if the two water levels reach the same

0:30:28.840 --> 0:30:32.200
<v Speaker 1>height uh and I mean same height relative to the table,

0:30:32.640 --> 0:30:36.640
<v Speaker 1>then pressure is equalized and everything will everything is an

0:30:36.680 --> 0:30:40.360
<v Speaker 1>equilibrium and water will stop to float. It's but as

0:30:40.400 --> 0:30:44.680
<v Speaker 1>long as the elevated cup has a higher water level,

0:30:44.800 --> 0:30:46.840
<v Speaker 1>water will continue to flow through that siphon. And the

0:30:46.880 --> 0:30:50.000
<v Speaker 1>reason there are two reasons really. One is that water

0:30:50.240 --> 0:30:54.360
<v Speaker 1>inside a chamber like that acts like a chain. It

0:30:54.640 --> 0:30:59.400
<v Speaker 1>pulls itself along. The other reason is that you have

0:31:00.840 --> 0:31:05.040
<v Speaker 1>think of the tube as an arc. Well, the tube

0:31:05.080 --> 0:31:08.000
<v Speaker 1>that leads down to the lower elevation is longer. That

0:31:08.080 --> 0:31:11.120
<v Speaker 1>side is longer than the side that's in the higher elevation.

0:31:11.920 --> 0:31:15.760
<v Speaker 1>So the water that's in that part is heavier, and

0:31:15.840 --> 0:31:19.080
<v Speaker 1>that weight is what's pulling water along inside the tube.

0:31:19.560 --> 0:31:22.360
<v Speaker 1>And it's until until you hit equilibrium. So for a

0:31:22.440 --> 0:31:25.600
<v Speaker 1>toilet to get it back to to the toilet example,

0:31:25.840 --> 0:31:29.760
<v Speaker 1>and why it's important when you flush that water from

0:31:29.800 --> 0:31:32.360
<v Speaker 1>the tank rushes into the bowl and it does so

0:31:32.440 --> 0:31:36.440
<v Speaker 1>fast enough to completely fill the pipe that s trap.

0:31:37.320 --> 0:31:42.000
<v Speaker 1>This activates the siphon effect, and the water pulls the

0:31:42.040 --> 0:31:44.400
<v Speaker 1>waist and also all the rest of the water along

0:31:44.440 --> 0:31:47.640
<v Speaker 1>with it through that s trap until it gets to

0:31:47.680 --> 0:31:50.840
<v Speaker 1>a point where it has exhausted the amount of water

0:31:50.920 --> 0:31:53.480
<v Speaker 1>that the tank has put into the bowl. And then

0:31:53.560 --> 0:31:55.960
<v Speaker 1>air is introduced, and once air is introduced, the siphon

0:31:55.960 --> 0:31:59.440
<v Speaker 1>effect stops. Right. So with a siphon, not only is

0:31:59.480 --> 0:32:02.640
<v Speaker 1>the water flowing out of the bowl because there's so

0:32:02.720 --> 0:32:05.840
<v Speaker 1>much water what about two or so gallons introduced to

0:32:05.960 --> 0:32:09.560
<v Speaker 1>your toilet bowl in about three seconds that that siphon

0:32:09.960 --> 0:32:13.560
<v Speaker 1>effect is produced in the s trap, right, Yeah, not

0:32:13.640 --> 0:32:16.680
<v Speaker 1>only is that water flowing, it produces a type of suction,

0:32:16.760 --> 0:32:19.280
<v Speaker 1>So the water in the bowl is sucked out and

0:32:19.320 --> 0:32:22.520
<v Speaker 1>down the siphon. And then, yes, like you said, once

0:32:22.600 --> 0:32:25.160
<v Speaker 1>the air is introduced, because the water and everything sucked

0:32:25.160 --> 0:32:27.960
<v Speaker 1>out of the toilet bowl, the suction effect is cut

0:32:28.000 --> 0:32:30.440
<v Speaker 1>off and everything goes back to the way it was

0:32:30.480 --> 0:32:32.920
<v Speaker 1>before you flush the top. Right, that's when the filler

0:32:33.040 --> 0:32:35.440
<v Speaker 1>valve can start to refill the bowl because now that

0:32:35.440 --> 0:32:39.040
<v Speaker 1>there's no longer anymore suction going on the bowl, water

0:32:39.120 --> 0:32:41.400
<v Speaker 1>level can return back to what it was as well.

0:32:41.480 --> 0:32:44.520
<v Speaker 1>And keep in mind that part of the s trap

0:32:45.040 --> 0:32:48.080
<v Speaker 1>that you know you can't see because it's a solid pipe,

0:32:48.400 --> 0:32:51.160
<v Speaker 1>but that also ends up filling to that same height

0:32:51.240 --> 0:32:53.640
<v Speaker 1>as the water that's in the bowl. And then you're

0:32:53.680 --> 0:32:55.920
<v Speaker 1>ready to go again once the tanket's bowl anyway, Yeah,

0:32:56.040 --> 0:32:59.400
<v Speaker 1>once you eat some kimchi. We talked about that before

0:32:59.440 --> 0:33:02.080
<v Speaker 1>the podcast started. Um, but yeah, one other thing to

0:33:02.160 --> 0:33:04.080
<v Speaker 1>keep in mind. You might say, well, why do we

0:33:04.080 --> 0:33:06.680
<v Speaker 1>need a tank at all? Why not just have a

0:33:06.680 --> 0:33:10.600
<v Speaker 1>water pipe going directly into the toilet and then when

0:33:10.640 --> 0:33:12.680
<v Speaker 1>you flush, it just opens up a valve for a

0:33:12.760 --> 0:33:15.800
<v Speaker 1>certain amount of time and then closes. And the reason

0:33:15.880 --> 0:33:19.080
<v Speaker 1>is because unless you have insane water pressure in your house,

0:33:19.680 --> 0:33:22.600
<v Speaker 1>you're not putting enough water in fast enough to fill

0:33:22.760 --> 0:33:27.280
<v Speaker 1>that s trap completely to to activate the siphon effect.

0:33:27.360 --> 0:33:29.480
<v Speaker 1>It's just going to trickle out like if your tank

0:33:29.720 --> 0:33:34.040
<v Speaker 1>was overflowing exactly. So there's some buildings that I mean

0:33:34.080 --> 0:33:37.760
<v Speaker 1>a lot of buildings that don't have UH tanks on

0:33:37.880 --> 0:33:40.560
<v Speaker 1>their on their toilets, but that's because again they are

0:33:40.640 --> 0:33:45.320
<v Speaker 1>directly connected to a very powerful water system, and thus

0:33:45.400 --> 0:33:48.320
<v Speaker 1>you don't need a tank because the water pressure that's

0:33:48.360 --> 0:33:50.760
<v Speaker 1>coming in is great enough to start that effect all

0:33:50.760 --> 0:33:55.040
<v Speaker 1>by itself. Yeah, or sometimes it's even more terrifying noise

0:33:55.040 --> 0:33:58.640
<v Speaker 1>than that. So that's your basic toilet, how your basic

0:33:58.680 --> 0:34:02.640
<v Speaker 1>toilet works. But so glad we're past the Siphon effect. Yeah,

0:34:02.680 --> 0:34:04.800
<v Speaker 1>that's I feel like we just made it through the

0:34:04.840 --> 0:34:07.440
<v Speaker 1>woods together. Now now we're going to go into the bright,

0:34:07.920 --> 0:34:13.479
<v Speaker 1>gorgeous future of weird toilets. This is great. So let's

0:34:13.480 --> 0:34:16.080
<v Speaker 1>talk Japanese toilets for a second. And I'm not talking

0:34:16.080 --> 0:34:19.600
<v Speaker 1>about the ones, the trough ones, which we established there

0:34:19.600 --> 0:34:23.319
<v Speaker 1>are still some in Japan, and trough is one way

0:34:23.320 --> 0:34:28.279
<v Speaker 1>to put it. More like uh oolyptical hole in the

0:34:28.320 --> 0:34:30.720
<v Speaker 1>ground is another way you could describe it as well.

0:34:31.239 --> 0:34:35.239
<v Speaker 1>On the floor yeah yeah, so yeah, you straddle and

0:34:35.239 --> 0:34:41.759
<v Speaker 1>then squat and then evacuate and then and then evacuate,

0:34:42.440 --> 0:34:44.880
<v Speaker 1>evacuate the area. Like I would just be like, I

0:34:44.880 --> 0:34:46.480
<v Speaker 1>don't know if I did it right, and run one

0:34:46.560 --> 0:34:50.319
<v Speaker 1>down the street. I mean, um, like I can't read

0:34:50.360 --> 0:34:55.120
<v Speaker 1>your language, and I'm so sorry. Just yeah, that's kind

0:34:55.120 --> 0:34:57.520
<v Speaker 1>of how I probably react. I mean, I am, I'm

0:34:57.560 --> 0:35:00.640
<v Speaker 1>being honest here, But no, the Japanese toilets, the more

0:35:00.680 --> 0:35:05.640
<v Speaker 1>Western style ones have features. Many of them have features

0:35:05.640 --> 0:35:09.200
<v Speaker 1>on them that put our Western toilets to shame, like

0:35:09.320 --> 0:35:12.560
<v Speaker 1>just phenomenal. Alright, we got a little bit more to

0:35:12.560 --> 0:35:14.799
<v Speaker 1>say on this topic. Before we get to that, though,

0:35:14.880 --> 0:35:24.520
<v Speaker 1>Let's take another quick break, so let's talk about some

0:35:24.600 --> 0:35:28.160
<v Speaker 1>of the features. That's good, fine, sorry, do you want?

0:35:28.200 --> 0:35:31.279
<v Speaker 1>Do you have a favorite out of all of them?

0:35:31.320 --> 0:35:35.160
<v Speaker 1>The air dry air dry, that's pretty amazing. I'm big

0:35:35.200 --> 0:35:40.560
<v Speaker 1>on the sound masking. Yeah, they they they offer. Most

0:35:40.719 --> 0:35:43.640
<v Speaker 1>Japanese toilets that have all the bells and whistles offer

0:35:44.440 --> 0:35:48.759
<v Speaker 1>a sound masking feature that's a flushing toilet. Yeah. Some

0:35:48.880 --> 0:35:51.919
<v Speaker 1>of them now have also classical music, but which makes

0:35:51.960 --> 0:35:56.560
<v Speaker 1>with some white noise. Um. I actually did a brain

0:35:56.640 --> 0:35:59.160
<v Speaker 1>Stuff episode about what white noises and how it works.

0:35:59.160 --> 0:36:02.200
<v Speaker 1>So you should check for superiors. But yeah, it's the

0:36:02.760 --> 0:36:05.040
<v Speaker 1>that those are so two of the very simple ones.

0:36:05.080 --> 0:36:07.320
<v Speaker 1>But it also tends to have a couple of different

0:36:08.040 --> 0:36:12.359
<v Speaker 1>options for washing your nether regions once you are finished. Yes,

0:36:12.400 --> 0:36:15.960
<v Speaker 1>and depending on your gender, Um, you should, I should say,

0:36:15.960 --> 0:36:19.239
<v Speaker 1>depending on your sex, you should be very careful what

0:36:19.320 --> 0:36:22.000
<v Speaker 1>option you choose when you're in Japan. Yeah, but day

0:36:22.160 --> 0:36:29.600
<v Speaker 1>would be aimed for you know, ladies, and then you

0:36:29.640 --> 0:36:32.240
<v Speaker 1>have rear washing, which is for you know, everyone, depending

0:36:32.320 --> 0:36:35.520
<v Speaker 1>upon what activities you got up to on that bathroom.

0:36:36.080 --> 0:36:40.040
<v Speaker 1>Um and uh, yeah, so there's usually there's a picture

0:36:40.200 --> 0:36:42.880
<v Speaker 1>of like a icon that looks kind of like a

0:36:42.920 --> 0:36:47.040
<v Speaker 1>butt with some sort of stream of something directed at it.

0:36:47.080 --> 0:36:50.280
<v Speaker 1>That would be for washing your rear. The day usually

0:36:50.280 --> 0:36:54.040
<v Speaker 1>has a icon of a lady somewhere on it, like

0:36:54.080 --> 0:36:57.200
<v Speaker 1>there's a ponytail involved, Yeah, something like that to indicate

0:36:57.200 --> 0:37:01.160
<v Speaker 1>what that was for. And uh, if you're wondering, like, well,

0:37:01.160 --> 0:37:03.400
<v Speaker 1>wait a minute, I'm this sounds like this could be

0:37:03.480 --> 0:37:08.880
<v Speaker 1>really unhygienic. The Japanese are very concerned with clean ling

0:37:10.000 --> 0:37:14.960
<v Speaker 1>and so these are nozzles that are usually hitten away

0:37:15.120 --> 0:37:17.120
<v Speaker 1>from the inside of the toilet bowlts only when you

0:37:17.160 --> 0:37:19.160
<v Speaker 1>press the button that they get there's like essentially a

0:37:19.160 --> 0:37:21.560
<v Speaker 1>door that opens and the nozzle can come out, and

0:37:21.640 --> 0:37:26.200
<v Speaker 1>they have nozzle sterilization technology to clean them between uses.

0:37:27.120 --> 0:37:29.959
<v Speaker 1>And so yeah, they usually have buttons where you also

0:37:30.000 --> 0:37:32.080
<v Speaker 1>have to like a stop button, so if you press

0:37:32.120 --> 0:37:34.719
<v Speaker 1>one of these, it essentially goes until you tell it

0:37:34.760 --> 0:37:37.480
<v Speaker 1>to stop. Yeah, and the person who wrote this, um

0:37:37.719 --> 0:37:41.839
<v Speaker 1>this how to use a Japanese toilet post points out

0:37:41.880 --> 0:37:45.640
<v Speaker 1>that before you choose either of these options, you want

0:37:45.760 --> 0:37:50.560
<v Speaker 1>to press the stream power down as as low as

0:37:50.560 --> 0:37:52.640
<v Speaker 1>it will go to start, and then you can adjust

0:37:52.680 --> 0:37:56.560
<v Speaker 1>it upwards. Um. Here, she says that at the normal

0:37:56.600 --> 0:38:00.239
<v Speaker 1>setting is equivalent to about a water pick. Yeah, which

0:38:00.360 --> 0:38:03.960
<v Speaker 1>on your on your on your junk. That's not good.

0:38:04.960 --> 0:38:07.879
<v Speaker 1>That's really, that's terrible. It might come as a big

0:38:07.880 --> 0:38:13.680
<v Speaker 1>surprise for that to to hit certain sense to variation. Yeah, so, yeah,

0:38:13.880 --> 0:38:15.600
<v Speaker 1>it's setting it low and does Some of them also

0:38:15.680 --> 0:38:18.840
<v Speaker 1>have controls for the temperature of the water, not to

0:38:18.840 --> 0:38:22.400
<v Speaker 1>mention the temperature of the seat. Uh. Some also, like

0:38:22.440 --> 0:38:24.879
<v Speaker 1>you mentioned, have the air drying so that after you

0:38:24.920 --> 0:38:29.560
<v Speaker 1>have had your rear washed, air dry it, which I mean, like, yes,

0:38:29.600 --> 0:38:32.279
<v Speaker 1>that's cool, there's like the days and rear washing all

0:38:32.320 --> 0:38:34.799
<v Speaker 1>that stuff, but you're not gonna stand up right afterwards

0:38:35.200 --> 0:38:37.120
<v Speaker 1>to be what you have to have the air dryer.

0:38:37.200 --> 0:38:39.760
<v Speaker 1>That's why, I mean, that's the best part. I agree.

0:38:39.800 --> 0:38:41.719
<v Speaker 1>I agree. I mean, if if you're going to have

0:38:42.400 --> 0:38:44.480
<v Speaker 1>these other features, you really knew do need the air

0:38:44.560 --> 0:38:46.200
<v Speaker 1>dryer or else you're just like, well, I guess I'll

0:38:46.200 --> 0:38:48.960
<v Speaker 1>be sitting here for a couple more minutes before I

0:38:49.080 --> 0:38:52.920
<v Speaker 1>dare move. Another interesting thing to me about the Japanese

0:38:52.920 --> 0:38:56.399
<v Speaker 1>culture um and it makes perfect sense. I totally understand it.

0:38:56.800 --> 0:39:00.200
<v Speaker 1>But you know, in Japan, shoes are really considered to

0:39:00.239 --> 0:39:03.640
<v Speaker 1>be quite dirty. That's one of the dirtiest pieces of

0:39:03.719 --> 0:39:06.920
<v Speaker 1>clothing that people have. So it's customary, of course to

0:39:06.960 --> 0:39:09.319
<v Speaker 1>take your shoes off and slip into house slippers before

0:39:09.320 --> 0:39:12.520
<v Speaker 1>moving going into a house. Absolutely, bathrooms have their own

0:39:12.560 --> 0:39:15.640
<v Speaker 1>sets of slippers, and it is quite a faux pod

0:39:15.680 --> 0:39:17.799
<v Speaker 1>to mix the two together. Oh yeah, if you were

0:39:17.840 --> 0:39:20.560
<v Speaker 1>to step out of the bathroom wearing bathroom slippers, you

0:39:20.600 --> 0:39:23.480
<v Speaker 1>would shock people, especially if you did like a little

0:39:23.560 --> 0:39:27.920
<v Speaker 1>dance like I'm American. Oh yeah, I don't, and you can.

0:39:28.040 --> 0:39:31.799
<v Speaker 1>You can usually tell the bathroom slippers um from They

0:39:32.200 --> 0:39:35.080
<v Speaker 1>have almost like a bit of a waterproof look to them.

0:39:35.160 --> 0:39:38.080
<v Speaker 1>Usually they're a little shinier, they're made of they're not

0:39:38.200 --> 0:39:43.600
<v Speaker 1>like um cloth. Usually they you could tell just using

0:39:43.680 --> 0:39:47.360
<v Speaker 1>your your noodle compared to house slippers. You'd be like,

0:39:47.400 --> 0:39:52.759
<v Speaker 1>these are probably the bathroom slipping toilet slippers. Or they

0:39:52.840 --> 0:39:55.120
<v Speaker 1>might be brightly colored and you think no one would

0:39:55.120 --> 0:39:57.719
<v Speaker 1>ever wear these anywhere else, or maybe they have a

0:39:57.719 --> 0:40:00.720
<v Speaker 1>poop emogy on them. It could be those are popular.

0:40:01.560 --> 0:40:03.520
<v Speaker 1>Another feature you might find on the toilets is a

0:40:03.560 --> 0:40:07.040
<v Speaker 1>deodorizer button. Yeah. Also kind of interesting. So I found

0:40:07.080 --> 0:40:09.359
<v Speaker 1>a toilet if I may give a plug, Even though

0:40:09.400 --> 0:40:12.160
<v Speaker 1>I should say I have no financial interest whatsoever in

0:40:12.200 --> 0:40:15.080
<v Speaker 1>the Cohler company, but I have become a fan of

0:40:15.120 --> 0:40:20.520
<v Speaker 1>their new me uh toilet. Oh yeah, I can't even

0:40:20.560 --> 0:40:23.120
<v Speaker 1>begin to describe it. It's just so neat as far

0:40:23.160 --> 0:40:26.520
<v Speaker 1>as the design goes. Um. Just go to just look

0:40:26.560 --> 0:40:29.640
<v Speaker 1>for the new me toilet and U M I um.

0:40:29.680 --> 0:40:32.760
<v Speaker 1>But one of the things they have is a deodorizer.

0:40:33.000 --> 0:40:37.600
<v Speaker 1>It's like, um, basically a little vent where the the

0:40:37.600 --> 0:40:42.520
<v Speaker 1>the odor is sucked in and run through a charcoal filter. Nice. Yeah, yeah,

0:40:42.560 --> 0:40:46.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean I when I read about the Japanese toilets,

0:40:46.800 --> 0:40:49.160
<v Speaker 1>obviously there's some some humor that comes in that just

0:40:49.200 --> 0:40:52.799
<v Speaker 1>from the cultural differences things like that, which can seem

0:40:52.920 --> 0:40:55.560
<v Speaker 1>very funny. But at the same time, I am incredibly envious.

0:40:56.320 --> 0:40:58.200
<v Speaker 1>I would love to have a lot of these features

0:40:58.200 --> 0:41:02.680
<v Speaker 1>building two American toilets. Uh. There. There are some moves

0:41:02.719 --> 0:41:05.640
<v Speaker 1>to improve toilet technology in various ways. Some of it

0:41:05.760 --> 0:41:09.400
<v Speaker 1>is a conservation trying to find low flush toilets that'll

0:41:09.719 --> 0:41:14.400
<v Speaker 1>still activate the siphoning UH technique, but not use as

0:41:14.480 --> 0:41:17.439
<v Speaker 1>much water and a go very important. Did you see

0:41:17.440 --> 0:41:21.719
<v Speaker 1>the no mixed toilet? I did? Yeah, the the one

0:41:21.760 --> 0:41:24.080
<v Speaker 1>that has met It has kind of like a ledge

0:41:24.760 --> 0:41:29.200
<v Speaker 1>and and filter for U urine and then behind that

0:41:29.400 --> 0:41:33.600
<v Speaker 1>would be where go. Yeah, it's it's meant so that

0:41:34.040 --> 0:41:36.600
<v Speaker 1>when you when you just have to urinate, you don't

0:41:36.600 --> 0:41:39.200
<v Speaker 1>have to flush the toilet. Yeah, it doesn't flush at all,

0:41:39.239 --> 0:41:42.799
<v Speaker 1>and as a matter of fact, it collects the urine UM.

0:41:42.920 --> 0:41:45.640
<v Speaker 1>And one of the reasons why the company that originally

0:41:45.680 --> 0:41:49.520
<v Speaker 1>started making no mixed toilet stop making them is because well,

0:41:49.600 --> 0:41:51.680
<v Speaker 1>number one, they didn't catch on very well, there's a

0:41:51.719 --> 0:41:57.000
<v Speaker 1>lot of hesitancy UM. But the another reason is they

0:41:57.280 --> 0:42:01.279
<v Speaker 1>they didn't quite have the infrastructure to collect the urine

0:42:01.320 --> 0:42:05.960
<v Speaker 1>separately and send it off. Although environmentally speaking, it makes

0:42:06.000 --> 0:42:10.320
<v Speaker 1>a lot of sense to separate urine from feces, especially

0:42:10.920 --> 0:42:14.200
<v Speaker 1>UH and not flush urine because when you flush urine,

0:42:14.200 --> 0:42:17.600
<v Speaker 1>you're introducing a lot of other stuff besides just the urine,

0:42:17.960 --> 0:42:22.759
<v Speaker 1>Like if you are on UM pharmaceuticals, those a lot

0:42:22.800 --> 0:42:26.360
<v Speaker 1>of that stuff is expelled and metabolized and expelled in

0:42:26.440 --> 0:42:30.040
<v Speaker 1>your urine, and it gets introduced into wetland areas and

0:42:30.080 --> 0:42:31.799
<v Speaker 1>things like that, and all of a sudden you have

0:42:31.840 --> 0:42:35.680
<v Speaker 1>frogs they're like have roid rage or something, uh, you know,

0:42:36.280 --> 0:42:39.680
<v Speaker 1>or that like a rubbing themselves against walls because you

0:42:39.840 --> 0:42:43.560
<v Speaker 1>took too much ecstasy the night before. Yeah, I mean, well, yeah,

0:42:43.600 --> 0:42:46.919
<v Speaker 1>anything you're taking into yours, anything you're gonna excrete spin

0:42:47.000 --> 0:42:49.440
<v Speaker 1>filtered through your kidneys, you're going to have some some

0:42:49.520 --> 0:42:54.040
<v Speaker 1>other elements in there too, consumed. But so the the

0:42:54.560 --> 0:42:57.279
<v Speaker 1>no mixed toilet collects this urine and sends it off

0:42:57.280 --> 0:43:00.440
<v Speaker 1>for separate recycling. And then if you're really hard core,

0:43:00.920 --> 0:43:04.680
<v Speaker 1>you know Granola or your city is, then maybe it

0:43:04.719 --> 0:43:07.560
<v Speaker 1>gets recycled into water and you drink that and pee

0:43:07.600 --> 0:43:11.040
<v Speaker 1>it out again and again it becomes a closed loop. Yeah,

0:43:11.120 --> 0:43:14.120
<v Speaker 1>and we've talked about that on Forward Thinking. We talked

0:43:14.120 --> 0:43:17.840
<v Speaker 1>about that with systems aboard UM, the International Space Station

0:43:18.120 --> 0:43:21.520
<v Speaker 1>ways of water reclamation. So that I mean, obviously, if

0:43:21.520 --> 0:43:23.400
<v Speaker 1>you are in an area where you get very little

0:43:23.400 --> 0:43:26.480
<v Speaker 1>water or it's very difficult to ship water to you,

0:43:26.480 --> 0:43:28.359
<v Speaker 1>you have to make the best use of all the

0:43:28.480 --> 0:43:31.719
<v Speaker 1>resources you have. Uh. There's some other things we can

0:43:31.719 --> 0:43:36.919
<v Speaker 1>talk about as far as toilet advances, smart toilets. So

0:43:37.920 --> 0:43:40.640
<v Speaker 1>sensor technology has gotten to the point now where it's

0:43:40.719 --> 0:43:46.720
<v Speaker 1>it's very inexpensive, it's it's versatile, water waterproof. It's entirely

0:43:46.800 --> 0:43:52.920
<v Speaker 1>possible to design sensors that could uh measure your waste

0:43:53.080 --> 0:43:58.200
<v Speaker 1>and and come up with actual information that could be

0:43:58.520 --> 0:44:02.480
<v Speaker 1>relevant to your health. So I saw some interesting examples,

0:44:02.520 --> 0:44:04.440
<v Speaker 1>like the idea of a sensor that could be an

0:44:04.440 --> 0:44:09.960
<v Speaker 1>early pregnancy detection by detecting changing hormone level. Um. It

0:44:10.040 --> 0:44:13.400
<v Speaker 1>might analyze your waste detect the bacterial infection, so it

0:44:13.480 --> 0:44:15.960
<v Speaker 1>might tell you. It might even send you an indication

0:44:16.000 --> 0:44:17.560
<v Speaker 1>saying you know, you need to take it easy for

0:44:17.560 --> 0:44:19.160
<v Speaker 1>a little while, or maybe even you need to go

0:44:19.200 --> 0:44:24.160
<v Speaker 1>see a doctor. With the right kind of software, you

0:44:24.400 --> 0:44:26.440
<v Speaker 1>and this is not hard to do at all. You

0:44:26.440 --> 0:44:29.200
<v Speaker 1>could even have one that could send a notification to

0:44:29.239 --> 0:44:34.280
<v Speaker 1>your doctor, or even go further, have one that's linked

0:44:34.280 --> 0:44:38.000
<v Speaker 1>to your doctor's calendar and your calendar and even create

0:44:38.080 --> 0:44:41.360
<v Speaker 1>an appointment for you, so your toilet does all that

0:44:41.440 --> 0:44:44.080
<v Speaker 1>for you. It's it's possible. It's not something that we're

0:44:44.160 --> 0:44:47.520
<v Speaker 1>necessarily seeing everywhere, but it's possible. I could see some

0:44:47.560 --> 0:44:51.319
<v Speaker 1>problems with this though, well yeah, I mean, like, first

0:44:51.360 --> 0:44:55.759
<v Speaker 1>of all, there's a real hesitancy by people to especially

0:44:55.800 --> 0:44:59.719
<v Speaker 1>put their medical records out there, their health data UM

0:44:59.760 --> 0:45:03.719
<v Speaker 1>at feel like those as as the advantages or the

0:45:03.760 --> 0:45:08.359
<v Speaker 1>benefits of allowing the Internet of things or that that

0:45:08.480 --> 0:45:12.200
<v Speaker 1>level of tech into our lives, especially with health um

0:45:12.360 --> 0:45:16.120
<v Speaker 1>become obvious to more people, the more just relaxed everybody's

0:45:16.120 --> 0:45:18.799
<v Speaker 1>going to become. I mean, think about it, five ten

0:45:18.920 --> 0:45:24.480
<v Speaker 1>years ago, say five, the putting your credit card into

0:45:24.520 --> 0:45:28.040
<v Speaker 1>a website to order something was still like really sketch

0:45:28.080 --> 0:45:31.120
<v Speaker 1>you to a lot of people, And now enough people

0:45:31.160 --> 0:45:34.879
<v Speaker 1>have done it that it's just it's just whatever, that's

0:45:34.920 --> 0:45:38.640
<v Speaker 1>the norm. Yeah, right, And I think health our health

0:45:38.719 --> 0:45:41.319
<v Speaker 1>information is going to go that same way. I can

0:45:41.360 --> 0:45:45.360
<v Speaker 1>see that. The only thing I see as uh possible,

0:45:45.440 --> 0:45:47.359
<v Speaker 1>well not the only thing, but one of the things

0:45:47.360 --> 0:45:51.640
<v Speaker 1>I see is an impediment to this is how do

0:45:51.680 --> 0:45:55.000
<v Speaker 1>you identify the person who is using the toilet at

0:45:55.000 --> 0:45:57.799
<v Speaker 1>any given situations? So, for example, Josh, let's say I

0:45:57.840 --> 0:46:01.040
<v Speaker 1>have you over and you need to use my restroom,

0:46:01.680 --> 0:46:05.400
<v Speaker 1>and unbeknownst to me, you are carrying around a really

0:46:05.480 --> 0:46:10.600
<v Speaker 1>awful bacterial infection that's poised to wreak havoc in your system.

0:46:10.640 --> 0:46:13.400
<v Speaker 1>And so as you use my restroom and you flushed

0:46:13.400 --> 0:46:16.000
<v Speaker 1>the toilet, it analyzes it and suddenly thinks that Jonathan

0:46:16.040 --> 0:46:18.240
<v Speaker 1>has gotten really sick. Next thing, I know, my doctor

0:46:18.320 --> 0:46:21.279
<v Speaker 1>is calling me. Now I know about your health condition. Yeah,

0:46:21.320 --> 0:46:24.440
<v Speaker 1>that's that's a very good point. Um. I would guess

0:46:24.520 --> 0:46:30.640
<v Speaker 1>then if if toilets are analyzing us our health personally,

0:46:31.400 --> 0:46:35.120
<v Speaker 1>then a toilet itself will become a much more personal thing.

0:46:35.840 --> 0:46:40.520
<v Speaker 1>So maybe I have a dumb toilet as my guest toilet,

0:46:40.960 --> 0:46:43.120
<v Speaker 1>and then my smart toilet is the only one that's

0:46:43.160 --> 0:46:48.040
<v Speaker 1>in my master bathroom. Or here's another thing, Stop me

0:46:48.080 --> 0:46:54.200
<v Speaker 1>if I sound crazy. Stop You've got a biometric authentication

0:46:54.920 --> 0:46:57.920
<v Speaker 1>system for your toilet where you have to scan like

0:46:57.960 --> 0:47:01.560
<v Speaker 1>a thumb print or in retinal scan to identify you

0:47:01.640 --> 0:47:06.960
<v Speaker 1>before using it. Thus you can't possibly confuse too people

0:47:07.040 --> 0:47:10.600
<v Speaker 1>and you cannot flush until you have identified yourself. That's

0:47:10.600 --> 0:47:13.520
<v Speaker 1>a good one. No, that's a I mean, it makes sense.

0:47:13.600 --> 0:47:17.840
<v Speaker 1>My my wife and I have um an aria uh scale.

0:47:18.440 --> 0:47:22.520
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah right, it's like fitbit um and it can

0:47:22.560 --> 0:47:25.600
<v Speaker 1>easily tell us apart. But because I mean, it just

0:47:25.640 --> 0:47:28.719
<v Speaker 1>determines like wait and all that stuff. Um, so it

0:47:28.760 --> 0:47:30.719
<v Speaker 1>can it can easily tell us apart. But you know,

0:47:31.239 --> 0:47:34.040
<v Speaker 1>maybe the seat does detect by weight, or there is

0:47:34.080 --> 0:47:36.640
<v Speaker 1>some other detail about you that just by sitting on

0:47:36.680 --> 0:47:40.440
<v Speaker 1>the toilet, uh, it says this is Jonathan or this

0:47:40.520 --> 0:47:43.440
<v Speaker 1>is not This is someone who's broken into Jonathan's house

0:47:43.480 --> 0:47:45.719
<v Speaker 1>to use this toilet. Right, well, that would be another

0:47:47.920 --> 0:47:50.120
<v Speaker 1>using your bathroom. Should I lock the door? Yes, and

0:47:51.040 --> 0:47:53.680
<v Speaker 1>turn on bathroom webcam? Right? Yeah, there you go. And

0:47:53.760 --> 0:47:56.600
<v Speaker 1>also the you know, deodurize, let's just go ahead and

0:47:56.600 --> 0:48:02.120
<v Speaker 1>be safe. So there are other potential dangers and one

0:48:02.160 --> 0:48:05.359
<v Speaker 1>of those is hacking. So there's already a story about

0:48:05.360 --> 0:48:09.000
<v Speaker 1>a smart toilet hacking situation which happened back in two

0:48:09.000 --> 0:48:13.160
<v Speaker 1>thousand thirteen. Ours Technica reported that, according to security firm

0:48:13.239 --> 0:48:18.560
<v Speaker 1>trust Wave, the Enacts Status automatic toilet had a Bluetooth

0:48:18.680 --> 0:48:22.360
<v Speaker 1>security vulnerability and it was a doozy so to speak.

0:48:22.880 --> 0:48:27.400
<v Speaker 1>So the you know, when you pair to bluetooth capable

0:48:27.920 --> 0:48:31.920
<v Speaker 1>technologies together, you generally have some sort of code that

0:48:31.960 --> 0:48:34.359
<v Speaker 1>you have to put in in order to pair them.

0:48:34.400 --> 0:48:36.960
<v Speaker 1>Not always, but a lot of them do. And the

0:48:37.000 --> 0:48:41.719
<v Speaker 1>problem was they had hardwired the same master code in

0:48:41.880 --> 0:48:44.440
<v Speaker 1>all of these toilets, and it was just zero zero

0:48:44.680 --> 0:48:49.360
<v Speaker 1>zero zero, right, So any app for this toilet compare

0:48:49.440 --> 0:48:52.719
<v Speaker 1>with any toilet just from being in the same area. Right,

0:48:52.760 --> 0:48:57.120
<v Speaker 1>So if you are within bluetooth distance, which is pretty decent,

0:48:57.280 --> 0:49:00.479
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you don't it's not that far, but it's

0:49:00.520 --> 0:49:03.000
<v Speaker 1>not you know, it's it's not like you could do

0:49:03.040 --> 0:49:06.839
<v Speaker 1>it from two fifty feet away necessarily, But if you're

0:49:07.080 --> 0:49:09.759
<v Speaker 1>close enough, like within the building or on the on

0:49:09.800 --> 0:49:12.000
<v Speaker 1>the side of it or whatever, you can totally pair

0:49:12.320 --> 0:49:16.520
<v Speaker 1>your phone with the toilet inside and essentially hijack someone's toilet,

0:49:16.760 --> 0:49:18.920
<v Speaker 1>which you know you might think, well, why could you do? Well,

0:49:18.960 --> 0:49:22.839
<v Speaker 1>this thing had the ability to open and close via

0:49:23.080 --> 0:49:24.680
<v Speaker 1>a command on your phone, so that way you didn't

0:49:24.719 --> 0:49:27.520
<v Speaker 1>have to touch the toilet seat. It also allows you

0:49:27.560 --> 0:49:30.240
<v Speaker 1>to control things like the bidet or the rear washing

0:49:30.800 --> 0:49:34.560
<v Speaker 1>uh nozzles, so you could you could turn it on

0:49:35.200 --> 0:49:37.600
<v Speaker 1>like you could turn on one of those nozzles when

0:49:37.600 --> 0:49:40.040
<v Speaker 1>no one's on the toilet and start flooding their bathroom,

0:49:40.800 --> 0:49:42.759
<v Speaker 1>or you can do it when you realize someone's just

0:49:42.840 --> 0:49:45.440
<v Speaker 1>got into the bathroom and they haven't even really started yet.

0:49:45.480 --> 0:49:47.279
<v Speaker 1>You could do it then and just laugh at the

0:49:47.360 --> 0:49:52.120
<v Speaker 1>hilarious or close the toilet seat while they're mid you

0:49:52.160 --> 0:49:55.800
<v Speaker 1>know activity, you know, you know, it's ironic about using

0:49:55.800 --> 0:49:58.680
<v Speaker 1>an app on your phone to open and close the

0:49:58.719 --> 0:50:01.560
<v Speaker 1>toilet seat. Would it be that the phone surfaces the

0:50:01.560 --> 0:50:06.200
<v Speaker 1>dirtiest service to come in contact with toilet? Yeah, I

0:50:06.239 --> 0:50:09.560
<v Speaker 1>thought that might be where you were going with that. Yeah, guys,

0:50:09.560 --> 0:50:12.640
<v Speaker 1>if you didn't know, if you have smartphones, got touchscreen,

0:50:12.960 --> 0:50:16.040
<v Speaker 1>hits filthy. It's about the dirtiest thing you probably come

0:50:16.080 --> 0:50:19.279
<v Speaker 1>into contact within any day, including the toilets. Yeah. Yeah.

0:50:19.640 --> 0:50:23.480
<v Speaker 1>The one thing that might be uh, you know, a

0:50:23.560 --> 0:50:26.640
<v Speaker 1>good competitor with that would be a keyboard. If you

0:50:26.760 --> 0:50:29.160
<v Speaker 1>use a keyboard on a daily basis, that's probably pretty

0:50:29.160 --> 0:50:33.640
<v Speaker 1>gross too. Yeah. So what's in the future for toilet's

0:50:33.680 --> 0:50:36.879
<v Speaker 1>Probably we will see some more of these, uh these

0:50:36.920 --> 0:50:40.239
<v Speaker 1>things that are common now in Japanese toilets kind of

0:50:40.239 --> 0:50:43.480
<v Speaker 1>filter their way through to other ones. I imagine we'll

0:50:43.480 --> 0:50:46.839
<v Speaker 1>see more moves to conserve water. It may even mean

0:50:46.920 --> 0:50:49.520
<v Speaker 1>that we end up moving away from the siphon model

0:50:49.640 --> 0:50:53.600
<v Speaker 1>and find a different model to deal with waste so

0:50:53.640 --> 0:50:57.040
<v Speaker 1>that it does it's not reliant upon creating enough water

0:50:57.160 --> 0:51:01.920
<v Speaker 1>to create this section. We'll have to wait and see um,

0:51:01.960 --> 0:51:06.319
<v Speaker 1>but we have to thank the brilliant men and women

0:51:06.360 --> 0:51:11.640
<v Speaker 1>who came before us forging the path to make incredibly

0:51:11.719 --> 0:51:15.600
<v Speaker 1>useful piece of technology, and also hope that we can

0:51:15.680 --> 0:51:19.600
<v Speaker 1>continue to strive to get it to more people so

0:51:19.640 --> 0:51:23.120
<v Speaker 1>that we can improve the quality of life for folks

0:51:23.120 --> 0:51:28.720
<v Speaker 1>who who otherwise are in pretty rough you know, circumstances

0:51:29.080 --> 0:51:34.920
<v Speaker 1>when obviously when cultures are going to adopt it. So, Josh,

0:51:35.000 --> 0:51:36.640
<v Speaker 1>thank you so much for joining me on the sand.

0:51:36.680 --> 0:51:39.080
<v Speaker 1>Thank you for having me. This was a joy. It

0:51:39.160 --> 0:51:41.480
<v Speaker 1>was fun. It was fun. I'm glad we were able

0:51:41.520 --> 0:51:44.200
<v Speaker 1>to talk about this in a mature way with only

0:51:44.239 --> 0:51:47.400
<v Speaker 1>a few terrible jokes on my end, relatively mature. We

0:51:47.440 --> 0:51:52.160
<v Speaker 1>did pretty juvenile at times, but mostly I hope you

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<v Speaker 1>enjoyed that classic episode of tech Stuff that published way

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