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Speaker 1: Hello, Welcome in side our three, The Jason Smith Show

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Speaker 1: beat the Vikings thirty seven to ten. It was all

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Speaker 1: Chargers all night. Justin Herbert throws for three times. The

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Speaker 1: doll runs for one hundred and seventeen yards. Lad McConkie

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Speaker 1: eighty eight yards and a touchdown, and another big night

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Speaker 1: for Aronde Gadsden.

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Speaker 3: The second don't go trying to make this a SYRACU segment.

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Speaker 1: Five hang on five catches seventy seven yards a touchdown.

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Speaker 1: He is now your tight end fantasy darling the last

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Speaker 1: two weeks in the NFL five for seventy seven and

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Speaker 1: a score tonight PPR leagues. That's a nineteen point nin

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Speaker 1: coming off a nine for one sixty four and one

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Speaker 1: touchdown against the Colts two weeks ago. Nobody cares about

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Speaker 1: your fantasy town. Well here's the find, though, is that

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Speaker 1: this is that tells me how old I am? Right,

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Speaker 1: Because I remember not just a Rondez Gadston being in

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Speaker 1: the in the NFL playing with the Dolphins as long

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Speaker 1: as he did, But I remember having a Rondez Gadsden

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Speaker 1: on my fantasy teams. And now you know, and now

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Speaker 1: I'm getting his son on my fantasy his son a

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Speaker 1: box of his dad's cards there in case you guys

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Speaker 1: don't have to.

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Speaker 3: He's laying around for some reason. I do. Oh look,

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Speaker 3: and he's coming.

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Speaker 1: To you know, the three weeks before when he first

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Speaker 1: got his extended playing time eight for sixty eight, like

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Speaker 1: Ronda Gadsden is now the darling of the moment. And

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Speaker 1: then like right after we talked about gads in the

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Speaker 1: What a great fine they have at ronde gads not

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Speaker 1: But Gadsden is someone who and I've been talking to

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Speaker 1: Syracuse came back for his for one more year last year,

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Speaker 1: which turned out to be the right call for him

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Speaker 1: staying with Kyle McCord. He is a matchup nightmare. He's

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Speaker 1: He could also split him out wide. That's kind of

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Speaker 1: I can't tell you how many fades Kyle McCord threw

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Speaker 1: about it. Well, because you're you know, you're just in

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Speaker 1: should talk about the defense. Now we're worried about what

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Speaker 1: so anxiously awaiting an update there. You don't like the kid,

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Speaker 1: but that's not anything that we haven't gone through. The

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Speaker 1: Derwin James getting okay, no, no, but but the boy

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Speaker 1: being and this is where it gets even more interesting. Right,

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Speaker 1: they made the trade to bring it away from Baltimore.

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Speaker 1: You get Khalil magg back again. How he's playing after

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Speaker 1: But he's back and playing, and they terrorized once tonight.

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Speaker 1: Minnesota's offensive line banged up, but you play who's on

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Speaker 1: You had four catches today for Keenan Allen as he

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Speaker 1: Mcconkey's been a beast the last few weeks. But Gadsden,

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Speaker 1: Gads okay, so counting that he gets to play the

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Speaker 1: so he's got no stats up until three weeks ago.

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Speaker 1: over fifty. He's twenty nine ninety four nine. I would

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Speaker 1: ahead of this weekend's game. So obviously Tucker Draft and

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Speaker 1: My goodness, oh my goodness, I can't believe a couple

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Speaker 3: I mean, look, we I know he's at sixty four

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Speaker 1: Couple of big games, but the point being twenty two

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Speaker 1: weeks he's been huge. Now you're looking at an offense

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Speaker 1: that's really interesting. Remember once upon a time it was

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Speaker 1: Keenan Allen and then pray for Mike Williams. Now you

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Speaker 3: But you have no idea what he's going to be for.

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Speaker 1: A long term. Yeah, no, Chargers suddenly got interesting. And

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Speaker 1: your Joe Alt thing, he's not getting votes, but in

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Speaker 1: I don't like to bring this up a lot, but

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Speaker 1: remember I told you the Chargers go to the AFC

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Speaker 1: it the first few weeks.

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Speaker 3: Then I was a little was about it. Now I

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Speaker 1: Before they started rolling it up today, And think about it,

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Speaker 1: if that, hey, I had the cheese no bread. I

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Speaker 1: healthy pizza. Ask Alex Tyshirt, He'll tell you one hundred percent.

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Speaker 3: Was it all the way under the ball? Was it not?

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Speaker 1: Like that call on the field kind of had to stand?

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Speaker 1: just kind of looked at that very sremptitiously and just

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Speaker 3: Like it though.

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Speaker 1: He had to leave the game in the second quarter

435
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Speaker 1: because he got hit so hard. He tried to stay

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Speaker 1: in the game, stayed in the game all the way through,

437
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Speaker 1: but clearly, look, the Vikings offense was non existent. He

438
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Speaker 1: had trouble, he was getting hit. I get leaving him

439
00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:19,400
Speaker 1: in the game for a while when the game is there,

440
00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:22,040
Speaker 1: but the game is no longer in doubt. It's three

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Speaker 1: touchdowns midway through the fourth quarter, and Wentz is just

442
00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:29,760
Speaker 1: getting absolutely drilled by the Chargers on every play. He's

443
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Speaker 1: getting sacked, he's getting hit when he throws the ball.

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Speaker 1: And it was tough to watch. I'm going, oh, man,

445
00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:37,399
Speaker 1: just get rid of the ball, like what going, Oh wow,

446
00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:40,840
Speaker 1: he just got crunched again. It was so hard to watch.

447
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Speaker 1: And I couldn't understand why Carson Wentz was still in

448
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Speaker 1: the game.

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Speaker 3: If it was.

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Speaker 1: Close, if it's a two score game, look, I understand,

451
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Speaker 1: but you've done nothing offensively all night. It's thirty seven

452
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Speaker 1: to ten, Okay, bring your backup in and and and

453
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Speaker 1: it's not JJ McCarthy because he's third string, but it

454
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Speaker 1: doesn't matter.

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Speaker 3: This game is over.

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Speaker 1: That was coaching I'll practice tonight by O'Connell leaving him

457
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Speaker 1: in the game to absorb those hits and then seeing

458
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Speaker 1: him on the bench after he comes out of the

459
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Speaker 1: game for the last time, where he was absolutely crying

460
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Speaker 1: because he's in so much pain. I'm like, dude, I

461
00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:14,520
Speaker 1: get the Carson Wentz is a tough dude, but you

462
00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:16,600
Speaker 1: need to protect players from themselves. You need to look

463
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Speaker 1: know that you're out for their best interest and to

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Speaker 1: protect them. Everybody knows how hurt he is. He's getting up,

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Speaker 1: you know, they're telling him, dude, Carson's holding his elbow again.

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Speaker 1: He is grimacing. He's up slow yep, let's run another play, like,

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Speaker 1: come on, man, at that point, take him out of

468
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Speaker 1: the game, do the right thing. Well, it's like, you

469
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Speaker 1: can take whatever movie analogy. We run them all, whether

470
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Speaker 1: it's the superhero getting bludgeon before the great comeback, which

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Speaker 1: maybe Kevin O'Connell was convinced that was gonna happen, or

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Speaker 1: it's the more likely scenario where I don't know, throw

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Speaker 1: the damn towel and you got Apollo looking over and going,

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Speaker 1: don't you do it?

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Speaker 3: Don't you do it? I mean, I get it.

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Speaker 1: Wentz was gonna answer the bell when he was gonna

477
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Speaker 1: keep trying to sling it as best he could take

478
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Speaker 1: the hit. Grimace get back up. We're watching him get

479
00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:05,520
Speaker 1: crumpled because that offensive line struggled.

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Speaker 3: You don't stop this fight, no matter what, no matter.

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Speaker 1: What Apollo's last words, no matter what, because that that

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Speaker 1: offensive line, right, and and I get it.

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Speaker 3: You got some some pieces back.

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Speaker 1: They were terrible. They they were just overrun by the Chargers.

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Speaker 1: And once it started going downhill Man, they picked up

486
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Speaker 1: ahead of steam. And on every pass play he wasn't

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Speaker 1: even finishing his five or seven step drop and he

488
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Speaker 1: was evading two guys.

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Speaker 3: He's gotta come out of the gate. So by the

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Speaker 3: end of.

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Speaker 1: It, like we're watching him and like he's running to

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Speaker 1: the sidelines, like he's his arms slumped to the side.

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Speaker 3: I mean, look, I go.

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Speaker 1: I go back to the Bill Parcells philosophy that there's

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Speaker 1: a difference between being hurt and being injured. Okay, there's

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Speaker 1: a day. If you're hurt, you can play. If you're injured,

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Speaker 1: you can't play. Carson Wentz was injured. He wasn't hurt,

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Speaker 1: he was injured, and still he is out there. I mean,

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Speaker 1: if you think I'm not lying to you, here's Paul Allen,

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Speaker 1: longtime Vikings play by play man Vikings Radio Network tonight,

501
00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:07,800
Speaker 1: talking about what happened after one of the last late

502
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Speaker 1: hits that Doug illegal but hit late in the game

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Speaker 1: tonight with Carson Wentz getting hit Chargers Rush five.

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Speaker 3: Carson back to pass throws.

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Speaker 8: To the left arm was hit as he threw and

506
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Speaker 8: it's incomplete Carson very slow to get up.

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Speaker 2: His left arm is a complete disaster.

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Speaker 8: I mean, with all due respect, I'm not a doctor, obviously,

509
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Speaker 8: but I mean how many times do we have to

510
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Speaker 8: see him hold his arm and wins some pain and

511
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Speaker 8: run off the field.

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Speaker 1: So here's Kevin O'Connell, Vikings head coach about why he

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Speaker 1: left Wentz in the game. This just from a couple

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Speaker 1: of minutes ago postgame, even though Wentz clearly was injured.

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Speaker 5: But we kept on, you know, checking in, maybe getting

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Speaker 5: Max ready to go. But he you know, you know,

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Speaker 5: Tyler was coming to me a lot tonight, but every

518
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Speaker 5: time he seemed to update me on that, you know,

519
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Speaker 5: Carson was uh, you know, he was sore going into it,

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Speaker 5: and he was able. He took obviously quite a few

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Speaker 5: hits and and but he was able to you know,

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Speaker 5: I asked him multiple times, you know where he was at,

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Speaker 5: and he said he was good and wanted to keep going.

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Speaker 5: I know, it did seem like he was, you know,

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Speaker 5: in pain there a couple of times. A few times.

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Speaker 1: That's an absolutle time. That's an absolute load of crap. Oh, coach,

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Speaker 1: So what Carson Wentz is going to say, Hey, you

528
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Speaker 1: gotta take me out. Of course he's gonna say I

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Speaker 1: want to play. He doesn't know the next time he's

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Speaker 1: going to play. JJ McCarthy eventually is going to be

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Speaker 1: the quarterback. So oh, he kept telling me he was okay,

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Speaker 1: So I kept him in the game. No, this is

533
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Speaker 1: where as a coach you have to see it and go,

534
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Speaker 1: hey man, it's time for you to come out of

535
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Speaker 1: the game.

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Speaker 3: You're done tonight. You're the coach.

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Speaker 1: You are absolutely injured. I kept asking you to tell

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Speaker 1: me he was okay, Like, what do you want me

539
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Speaker 1: to be as?

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Speaker 2: What do you want me to do?

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Speaker 1: I'm only the head coach, I kept asking. He told

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Speaker 1: me he was Okay, No, you need to make sure

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Speaker 1: that you are looking out for his best interest and

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Speaker 1: you weren't. Were you not watching the same game the

545
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Speaker 1: rest of us were? Apparently he was the thing. Are

546
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Speaker 1: you just buried in your play sheet to the point

547
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Speaker 1: where you're not watching the carnage? Because I mean, at

548
00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:09,000
Speaker 1: no point in the second like once we got into

549
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,720
Speaker 1: the second half and that game started to get distanced, Yeah,

550
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 1: they were just teeing off right and they got Darisaw back,

551
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Speaker 1: and that's great. He's playing at seventy five percent or

552
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 1: whatever you want, what number you want to ascribe to,

553
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,800
Speaker 1: that right tackled. The right side of their offensive line

554
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:26,760
Speaker 1: is still a wreck. And you watch that all night long,

555
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,520
Speaker 1: and they just teed off time and time again. At

556
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Speaker 1: some point, you got you gotta throw the towel. You've

557
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Speaker 1: got to save it because again, if McCarthy's not ready,

558
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Speaker 1: like because that begets the larger question, because I don't

559
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Speaker 1: think Max is where you wanted to go long term.

560
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Speaker 1: And I saw a bunch of folks I know in

561
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Speaker 1: Minnesota that were like, that's what he's there for. It's like, no,

562
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Speaker 1: he's not there to be a bleeping pinata. Yeah, yeah, No,

563
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Speaker 1: He's there to be the veteran stop gap until your

564
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Speaker 1: other guy, your future guy, whatever is healthy and ready

565
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Speaker 1: to go. He's not there to be the lamb of

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Speaker 1: the slaughter so that the Chargers defense can rack up

567
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:07,359
Speaker 1: stats and quarterback hits like they're playing a video game.

568
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Speaker 1: Like it's just insane that that we watched that come

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Speaker 1: to fruition. There were some other quotes from him that

570
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Speaker 1: lead me, I just want to read this one. We

571
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Speaker 1: got outplayed, we got a coach we did not. I mean,

572
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Speaker 1: there are no excuses injury, short week, whatever it is.

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Speaker 1: That's not in any way, shape or form our standard

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Speaker 1: of what we want to put on the field. And

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Speaker 1: we've got, as I told our team, we've got an

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Speaker 1: opportunity in front of us where we need to own this.

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Speaker 1: This is not a bury the tape kind of time

578
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Speaker 1: for our organization. No, you should be taped, eyelids open

579
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Speaker 1: like a damn clock. We're gorge to watch what you

580
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Speaker 1: did to that guy that was that was off. That

581
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Speaker 1: was coaching malpractice. That's absolutely what it was. And really

582
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Speaker 1: if he was a grade school coach or a high

583
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Speaker 1: school coach, it'd be calling him to be fire ketch back.

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Speaker 1: He kept telling me he was.

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Speaker 3: He was okay, what do you want?

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Speaker 1: So he gets back up, he's staggering towards you said

587
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Speaker 1: he was okay? When when when all the stuff, all

588
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Speaker 1: the training that I went through to be a youth coach.

589
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,639
Speaker 1: You have to go through all the different concussion training

590
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 1: and and and personal training and all kinds of questions

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00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 1: that you have to answer, and modules you have to

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Speaker 1: watch about what to recognize for injuries and and and

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00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,159
Speaker 1: for you know, stuff off the field, you know, safe play,

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00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,880
Speaker 1: off the field, trauma. Like, there's all these different modules

595
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 1: you have to pass. And just the fact that they tell,

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Speaker 1: you know, hey, talking to a player and the player

597
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 1: telling you they're okay, is okay?

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00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 3: That's not enough?

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00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:26,959
Speaker 8: Right?

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Speaker 1: If you see something, you take that, you take that person.

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Speaker 1: And obviously we're talking about different stakes. We're talking about

602
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 1: youth sports and soccer and softball versus the NFL. But again,

603
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,440
Speaker 1: the game is over. I get it, if it's close

604
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 1: and you really don't want to make them out. I

605
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:41,920
Speaker 1: can see that turning a blind eye to it, because

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Speaker 1: we see that a lot. But this was there was

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Speaker 1: no reason, you know, he came back again the steers.

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Speaker 1: There was no reason that was like a lifetime. He

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Speaker 1: came back against the Steelers. That's what Kevin O'Connell would

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Speaker 1: fight back with.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he came back.

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Speaker 1: No, you should be a great result there. Yeah, that

613
00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 1: was the guy that was able to move laterally. That

614
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:01,480
Speaker 1: was a guy they didn't have much of a pass

615
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 1: rush getting on him. I mean this is like if

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Speaker 1: something happens to Carson Wentz, I would sue the Vikings

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Speaker 1: and I would say, you want be in a.

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00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 3: Game where I couldn't play man? But he said he

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Speaker 3: was okay. I know that.

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Speaker 1: Like that, like that's the worst that tells me. Kevin o'cotton, dude,

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Speaker 1: just think for a second. Come about what we've had

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Speaker 1: this week. Be the latest. Be a human being and

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Speaker 1: be someone who understands that the game is over. We've lost,

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Speaker 1: and now you want to make sure you're protecting the

625
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,919
Speaker 1: health of your quarter. It's not the super Bowl, right,

626
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Speaker 1: it's not the be all to end all. Even then

627
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,480
Speaker 1: we still would have that question but as to whether

628
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 1: your backup could find, you know, lightning in a bottle

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Speaker 1: for a quarter.

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Speaker 3: But but we're watching this.

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Speaker 1: It's it's week eight, Week seven, Week seven of your

632
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 1: National Football League season. I had a lot of football

633
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 1: to be played, and you don't know that that other

634
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 1: guy's walking through the door. So unless you want to

635
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 1: go to Russell Wilson, you want Carson Wentz up and

636
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 1: around right time now to find out what's trending in

637
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 1: the wide world of sports. And someone who's big phrase

638
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 1: tonight has been big fat zero because of thanks for

639
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 1: cleaning that up for it, because of Quentin Johnson's targets.

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00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 3: Put him on a milk.

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Speaker 9: Carton, a milk carton he's been missing. It is week eight,

642
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 9: fellas of the NFL. It is week eight of the NFL.

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00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 9: In the night where we have the NFL. Honestly, what's

644
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 9: been exciting has been the NBA. We've got a game,

645
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 9: another game.

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00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 1: The NFL was exciting just because Quentin Johnson, didn't.

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Speaker 3: You a while ago? Yeah?

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Speaker 9: No, No, great win for the Chargers whom so excited,

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Speaker 9: but also.

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Speaker 3: Big fat zero five guys appear even in the literally right,

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Speaker 3: it's like, where did everybody go? Now we're efficient with

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Speaker 3: our offense all of.

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Speaker 1: A sudden, No, that's a problem. He's not distributing the

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Speaker 1: ball well enough, what's talking about.

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Speaker 9: I'm serious, I'm serious, But guys, this game between the

656
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 9: Nuggets and the Warriors has been too exciting for us.

657
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Speaker 3: We're losing our voice.

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Speaker 9: And only Game one for the Nuggets, Game two for

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Speaker 9: the Warriors.

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Speaker 3: It was back and forth.

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Speaker 9: Aaron Gordon hit his tenth three to give the Nuggets

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Speaker 9: the lead, and then who responds with another three Steph

663
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Speaker 9: Curry to tie the game. And just like death taxes

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Speaker 9: and Nicola Jokic a triple double. That's the only things

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Speaker 9: you can count on in this world. So they're tied

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Speaker 9: at one twenty. They just got going in overtime. But

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Speaker 9: Aaron Gordon has forty five points.

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Speaker 3: Again, he is.

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Speaker 1: Ten out of eleven from three point right. He started

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Speaker 1: out making his first eight. That's close to the record.

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Speaker 3: I think of the record like in.

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Speaker 9: A row without Missy.

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Speaker 3: I think I think you're right for the record. Yes, absolutely,

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Speaker 3: I want to say.

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Speaker 1: I want to say Jalen Brunson has the record. I

676
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Speaker 1: really want to say Brunton's got the record.

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Speaker 3: You're probably right, that sounds right, that could be right.

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Speaker 1: Go New York, going New York. O, going New York,

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00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 1: going New York.

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Speaker 3: Oh, okay, other game ya okay.

681
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Speaker 9: See in Indiana they went to double overtime. In their

682
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Speaker 9: finals rematch, but okay See came out on top one

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Speaker 9: forty one to one thirty five. Shay Gildes Alexander dropped

684
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Speaker 9: a new career high fifty five points to go along

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Speaker 9: with eight rebounds and five assists. Pascal Siakam was the

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Speaker 9: one who hit the shot to force ot and ended

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Speaker 9: with the double double and the lost thirty two points

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Speaker 9: and fifteen rebounds. When it comes to a couple of

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Speaker 9: games in the NHL, the Ducks top the Bruins seven

690
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Speaker 9: to five. Boston has lost six in a row. Mammoth

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Speaker 9: outscored the Blue seven to four. Utah has won five

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Speaker 9: in a row. The King's edge the Stars three to

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Speaker 9: two in overtime, and the Hurricanes beat the Avalanche five

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Speaker 9: to four in a shootout. We're almost there, guys. Game

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Speaker 9: one of the World Series Toronto Blue Jays and the Dodgers.

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Speaker 9: Toronto is going to have trey Ya Savage on the

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Speaker 9: mound for Game one, and unfortunate news, there's still no

698
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 9: more details. The Dodgers announced that relief pitcher Alex Vesio

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Speaker 9: will be away from the teams he deals with a

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Speaker 9: personal family matter. They did not provide a timetable for

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Speaker 9: his return. But it can't be good.

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Speaker 3: No, he was expecting a child. No, so it can't

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00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 3: be good. All right, thank you very much, you're welcome. Guys.

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Speaker 1: On a different note, yeah, big game tonight, the Hurricanes

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Speaker 1: beat the Avalanche tonight. Teams wore their throwback jerseys. The

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Speaker 1: Avs wore Nordicuse jerseys and the hurricanescuse or the Nordiak's jerseys,

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Speaker 1: and the Hurricanes wore the Whalers jerseys, which was so

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Speaker 1: bleep and exciting. Man, it was so much fun. Yeah,

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00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 1: you were just trying to.

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Speaker 3: It's fun, man.

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Speaker 1: Oh, it's fun seeing those seeing those old school jerseys

712
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 1: is awesome.

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Speaker 3: No, it's a win in all of these sports.

714
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Speaker 1: Expecting to see like ray Alcuccier skating up down the

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Speaker 1: ice for the nord Ecuse.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: The Stasney brothers, they had all three of them, Peter

718
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Speaker 1: Marrian Anton.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah they were good. Let's go back in the

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Speaker 3: way back with Stasny's yeo Stasney. Did we get Forstburg

721
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Speaker 3: out there while we're at it?

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Speaker 1: Ye for But he was never he was never a Nordiic.

723
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Speaker 1: I don't I don't think he was coming. I think,

724
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Speaker 1: you know, they think the last go. I want to say,

725
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Speaker 1: maybe it was Hobby Boolin, one of the last Nordean

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Speaker 1: you know me, Hobby, Look you might have.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, but yeah, that's all. You're fun tonight

728
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Speaker 3: seeing those two forsburg just to the avalanche.

729
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Speaker 1: Never mind the Whalers all running on the ice after

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Speaker 1: they winning the shootout, only one goal in the shootout.

731
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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I trying to run away from the go

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Speaker 3: New York. Goh stuff, Go Hartford, Go Hartford, Go go Hartford,

733
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Speaker 3: go hard.

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Speaker 1: But we celebrate some mammoth and get some wolf Wolfgang

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Speaker 1: van Halen going, Oh, you want to hear some mullkeets. Okay,

736
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Speaker 1: let's get some mammoth going on. Next, let's play the end.

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Speaker 1: Let's play the I'm a Mass the acoustic version of

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Speaker 1: the new young Blood Aerosmith because Steve Martin plays banjo

739
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Speaker 1: on it. Okay, how about that, I bless you're Steve Martin.

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Speaker 1: Let's see Let's hear wolf Gan van Halen first. Let's

741
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Speaker 1: see that coming up next, not one but two big

742
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 1: takes on the biggest NBA story of the night. Jason

743
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Speaker 1: and Mike. This is Fox Sports Radio.

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00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith

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Speaker 2: Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven

746
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Speaker 2: pm Pacific.

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Speaker 3: This is not Wolfgang van Halen. No, this is Wolfgang.

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Speaker 2: It's some other there.

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Speaker 3: How about Wolfgang amadaas Mozart Let's Go.

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Speaker 4: Sixteen seventy four, wolfgangamadeas Mozart Mary's Constance Waiver sixteen ninety four,

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Speaker 4: Mozart composes the Magic Flute and sixteen ninety five Mozart dies.

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Speaker 4: In nineteen ninety three, Arthur and rock singer falcl Records.

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Speaker 3: Rock me O the dayas the day is a day.

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Speaker 3: You know, the Smurfs eventually redid the magic flute.

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Speaker 1: Yay, oh here just get a little uh could just

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Speaker 1: see Tom Halse doing his thing. Very upset Trevor from

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Speaker 1: the Marvel movies Gandhi, very mad.

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Speaker 2: See.

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00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm being my soul's being taken away,

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Speaker 1: like I'm in a Harry Potter movie. Now turning to vapors.

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Speaker 1: The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmen live from the

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio series. Actually that was that was f

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Speaker 1: Marie Abraham. Yes it was not Ben Kingsley. Jason named

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Speaker 1: the song non. Ben Kingsley is the mandalori.

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Speaker 10: This is this is uh e twued in E minor. No, really,

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Speaker 10: how dare you it tuned in F minor? You unconscious?

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Speaker 10: Swine it too? It tued in in fort minor? Are

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Speaker 10: you calling it tude e e t u d e?

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Speaker 10: This is requiem in D minor K six two six

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Speaker 10: sequence five licriosa.

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Speaker 1: You're fired now, I think this is actually fort minor.

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Speaker 1: Where'd you go? I miss you? So I feel like

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Speaker 1: we're drifting towards the duel of the fates if we

774
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 1: let that play out long enough. So let's focus on

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00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 1: this part of the big NBA gambling scandal from today

776
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 1: for a couple of minutes because of all the facts

777
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,319
Speaker 1: that we got out, this is just what blows me away. Right.

778
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 1: Chauncey Phillips, Damon Jones, Terry Rosier all caught up in

779
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Speaker 1: a big FBI investigation which kind of blew open the

780
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 1: lid on illegal sports gambling. A lot of it involves

781
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 1: players who leaves and money went out on their unders

782
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:06,359
Speaker 1: for prop bets for the for a couple of years,

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00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 1: you know, for a big period. And this is what

784
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,360
Speaker 1: the NBA was investigating, right, Okay, So that's mainly what

785
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:14,360
Speaker 1: it is for Terry Rozier or some other people. But

786
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:18,760
Speaker 1: this Chauncey Billups thing is just I was blown away

787
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 1: by this. Now, Chauncey Billups is not involved in this

788
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 1: to the extent where he was giving out information about

789
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 1: games or players being hurt, but he is accused of

790
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:31,720
Speaker 1: using his celebrity to lure people into playing in poker

791
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 1: games that were rigged by the mafia. Okay, the Banano

792
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:39,240
Speaker 1: Gambino Luczy, and I don't think Joey Lukesey is involved

793
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,360
Speaker 1: picturing in Major League Baseball and Genevieve's crime families. So

794
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 1: the biggest crime fantasy yea in the United States were

795
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:50,240
Speaker 1: involved in this. Now what is it? The organizers allegedly

796
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:55,879
Speaker 1: used sophisticated cheating technologies, including shuffling machines that could read

797
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:59,799
Speaker 1: the cards in the deck, poker chip trays with hidden cameras,

798
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:05,760
Speaker 1: special contact lenses and glasses that could read pre marked cards,

799
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 1: and an X ray table that could read cards face

800
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 1: down on the table. And Chauncey Billups and Damon Jones

801
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 1: were hey, play, hey, come play in this game with

802
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 1: Chauncey Billups Damon Jones, and they paid Chauncey billups at

803
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 1: think fifty grand to come in because hey, big rollers

804
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 1: want to community host, you play with NBA stars and

805
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 1: everything else. I Meanwhile, these guys would get taken for

806
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 1: their money and after it was over once the quote

807
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 1: fish lost in these games, the mafia used extortion and

808
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 1: violence to make sure they paid their gambling debts. This

809
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:38,880
Speaker 1: is straight out of a movie. Oh yeah, this is

810
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 1: way more sophisticated.

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Speaker 3: That's I mean.

812
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 1: I mean X ray tables that can read the card

813
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:46,400
Speaker 1: face down right, poker chip trays that got hidden cameras

814
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:49,319
Speaker 1: in them. Like this is this is way past like

815
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:52,320
Speaker 1: what I've seen in the first season of Sneaky Pete

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00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 1: in any of The Oceans movies, Like this is like, hey,

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00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 1: you have the You thought Hollywood was good, No, we

818
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 1: got Hollywood beat with what we got going on. Oh

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Speaker 1: what's great is you and I were talking about like

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Speaker 1: the different lingo go back to Ocean's Well, we can

821
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Speaker 1: we run this all. We're gonna need a Jim Brown

822
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Speaker 1: and Ella fitz Jails always like all of these different

823
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 1: phraseologies here. It's like, hey, just get that X ray table.

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Speaker 1: Look a We're gonna run two brothers and a stranger. No,

825
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:16,320
Speaker 1: how about a Miami miracle. No, we di don't have

826
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Speaker 1: the people for that. All right, how about how about

827
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 1: an LA confidential? You think we can put the scratch

828
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Speaker 1: together in the next couple of days, in forty eight hours,

829
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 1: I'll call somebody, right, all all of those great terms,

830
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 1: and you're trying to do the It's it's like calling

831
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Speaker 1: an NFL play right, thirteen personnel versus twelve personnel run

832
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Speaker 1: fifty nine A look, how about a sixty five toss

833
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Speaker 1: power trap.

834
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Speaker 3: No, we have no time we need we need a

835
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Speaker 3: blocking tight end there, we don't have enough guys.

836
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Speaker 1: We gotta Texas two step. How about a Micah Parsons trade. No,

837
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Speaker 1: we can't run any of those.

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Speaker 3: Wow, now you dragged Jerry Jones into it all. Can

839
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Speaker 3: we run a Harmon purple shorts? No?

840
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Speaker 1: No, no, not not not not south of not south

841
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Speaker 1: of the Mason Dixon life.

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Speaker 3: No, you're not rich enough for that. No, no, in

843
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Speaker 3: the south.

844
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Speaker 1: Really just an amazing run. Here from the Trailblazers coaches

845
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:11,760
Speaker 1: former coach coach at exile. Here's his attorney, Chris Ayward.

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Speaker 1: He would anyone who knows Chauncey Billups knows he's a

847
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Speaker 1: man of integrity. Men of integrity do not cheat and

848
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Speaker 1: defraud others. To believe that Chauncey Billups did with the

849
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Speaker 1: federal government is accusing him of is to believe that

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Speaker 1: he would risk his Hall of Fame, legacy, his reputation,

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Speaker 1: and his freedom. He would not jeopardy aze those things

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Speaker 1: for anything, let alone a card game.

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Speaker 6: Man.

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Speaker 1: Now, this was eighteen months, a lot of lot of

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Speaker 1: investigatory work done here. The NBA said they looked into

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00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 1: things and pushed it aside. So there's some questions there.

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00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 3: Sure we haven't.

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Speaker 1: We haven't done the deep dib on that, because that

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Speaker 1: would be like, all right, what information did you have?

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Speaker 1: Because if you had literally all the cards on see

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Speaker 1: now I can't even run the gambling. He got all

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Speaker 1: the cards on the table in front of him. Just

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Speaker 1: you can't read. Then we wanna know you got the

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Speaker 1: mark cards. They we run in a northern Michigan bridge. No,

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Speaker 1: can't run that. Okay, that's great, all right, that's fine.

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Speaker 1: If Adam Silver gave a press conference and started using

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Speaker 1: those terms about a Saskatchewan side step, no nor people

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Speaker 1: went to presty legal in fourteen states.

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Speaker 3: But you know the one thing I.

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Speaker 1: Will say this is that for all of the potential

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Speaker 1: talk that oh tip of the iceberg, there's more coming,

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Speaker 1: There'll be more investigations coming. But if this was what

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Speaker 1: was unearthed after this long an investigation, I feel pretty

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Speaker 1: good that the because you know that they're out to

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Speaker 1: get the NBA, right, want to get the NBA and.

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Speaker 3: Get there, we got to get sports. Whant it gets more?

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Speaker 1: I think I feel pretty confident that they found when

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Speaker 1: they found everything that was out there, and the next

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Speaker 1: time we hear about investigating maybe a few months from now,

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Speaker 1: another year and a half from now, and they look

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Speaker 1: into whatever is happening as far as gambling goes. But

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Speaker 1: I feel pretty good that that this is what they

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Speaker 1: found and this is something that the NBA will Okay,

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Speaker 1: we'll deal that, We'll move on, yes, Seah, I don't

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Speaker 1: want to go deep down the full hats that are

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Speaker 1: out there going you know, hey, it's because of this guy,

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Speaker 1: that guy, the other guy, five guys being critical of

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Speaker 1: the administration, Like okay, you could you could take that

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Speaker 1: if you want. But if they uncovered wrongdoing, did they

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Speaker 1: do wrong?

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Speaker 8: Right?

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Speaker 3: Did the government do wrong? In this case?

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Speaker 1: If they actually found something because that's what if you

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Speaker 1: go parse through the noise you've heard today, that's some

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Speaker 1: of it.

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Speaker 3: It's like, why don't they leave us alone?

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Speaker 1: Like no, no, they found stuff, they found stuff, But

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Speaker 1: I feel good that they found all the stuff. Like

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Speaker 1: if this kind of investigation, like it's not going to

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Speaker 1: be suddenly where we're getting this this is the first

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Speaker 1: of many. It just seems you'd wait for all of

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Speaker 1: it and bring it out at once, as opposed to

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Speaker 1: scraps just because it's the beginning of the season. I

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Speaker 1: don't think you just go for just the short term.

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Speaker 1: Special guests from Vegas joining us next to the latest

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Speaker 1: on this story.

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