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Speaker 2: The New York Post. Today we're talking about Nini Leaks,

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Speaker 2: who recently dismissed her lawsuit. Now, I know you guys

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, Carlos King, the king of reality TV.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for that glowing introduction.

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Speaker 1: It is an absolute honor to be here today and

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Speaker 3: Maybe I was a wishful thinking, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: This is my dream.

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Speaker 2: No listen, I love Mimi, and again, Nini and I

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Speaker 2: So when I reached out to Nimi, she kindly declined

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Speaker 1: Right, Well, now that you put it that way, Carlos, Okay, yes,

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Speaker 1: Walmart's not gonna take her back. Probably ninety nine percent

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Speaker 3: Like if you had to guess, like taking that.

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Speaker 2: I'm not you. But the only thing I can say

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Speaker 1: And that's an interesting point that you bring up, Like,

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Speaker 1: Like maybe the next chapter for her is bigger than Bravo,

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Speaker 1: wanted justice for that. It just was an interesting lawsuit

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Speaker 2: I hate to interrupt, but stay tuned for more of

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Speaker 2: my conversation with Evan'll be right back after this quick break.

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Speaker 2: This is Reality with the King, and I'm Carlos King.

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Speaker 2: Let's get back into my chat with Evan Rail about

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Speaker 2: Nini Leaks. So listen. My biggest thing is because I

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Speaker 2: know the fans have been asking me this Evan for

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Speaker 2: the longest time. Carlos, you brought Monique Samuels back on television.

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Speaker 1: I was about to ask, because you have the power

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Speaker 1: and the resources, Carlos King, if anyone, yeah, okay, Carlos,

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Speaker 1: let's talk to you about this. Like, if anyone can

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Speaker 1: make a Nini Leak's return to reality TV happen, it's you.

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Speaker 3: So what's the plan? Have we texted Nini about that.

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Speaker 2: Go ahead, Evan, I mean.

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Speaker 3: A journalist needs to know are we dropping some news?

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Speaker 2: So I know the biggest question is, Carlos King, you

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Speaker 2: have a production company, Nini leaks, is you know number

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Speaker 2: one on your lists of the greatest Housewives of all time?

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Speaker 2: You reached out to Monique Samuel's after her stint on

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Speaker 2: Potomac and you got her to be a part of

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Speaker 2: your Love and Marriage franchise, which is Love and Marriage DC.

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Speaker 2: So could there be a Love and Marriage Atlanta starring

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Speaker 2: Niini Leagus. I will say this, I will be honored

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Speaker 2: to work with Nini in any capacity. Nimi is very expensive.

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Speaker 3: That part, that part, but worth it worth it?

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Speaker 2: Oh no, listen, Nini is worth every single penny. Yes,

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Speaker 2: I did you know gimmo Nique to be on Love

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Speaker 2: and Marriage DC. I obviously had Claudia Jordan on the

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Speaker 2: next fifteen. I had Shamar de Vot, although I have

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Speaker 2: Shamari first. I had Shamar Devote on my show BT Presents.

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Speaker 2: They encore. So y'all know me. I love to you.

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Speaker 2: Don't reach out to my girls who I love and

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Speaker 2: find them a bag. So Memi leaks, I will say

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Speaker 2: this if Nimi Leaks is ready to return to television.

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Speaker 2: Let me know from you guys, what show would you

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Speaker 2: like to see Nimi Leaks in? And make sure you

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Speaker 2: hashtag reality with the King and tweet me your answer. So, Evan,

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Speaker 2: now that I have you face to face and ear

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Speaker 2: to ear, honey, let me know what show would you

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Speaker 2: like to see Nimi Leaks?

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Speaker 1: I mean, I would love Love and Marriage Atlanta. I

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Speaker 1: think she'd be the perfect girl to lead it. I

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Speaker 1: mean I know that she is dating again after Greg's

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Speaker 1: unfortunately pass away, and I think that would be a

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Speaker 1: really interesting story to see, like Nini getting back into

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Speaker 1: the dating pool, reviving her love life, maybe getting married again.

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Speaker 1: Like I want to see Nini win in that way.

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Speaker 1: So I think, yeah, there's so many incredible women in

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Speaker 1: Atlanta who will be able to round out the cast

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Speaker 1: with like and Nini would just be that perfect central force,

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Speaker 1: kind of like Monique was the perfect center point for DC.

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Speaker 1: So that's what I would love to see. I think

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Speaker 1: that's a great idea. Or I also I also think

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Speaker 1: that Nini, you know, she could carry her own show,

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Speaker 1: Like what do you think about Nini just doing kind

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Speaker 1: of like her own docuseries?

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Speaker 2: Oh no, listen. There's something magnificent about Nini's mannerisms and

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Speaker 2: how she is just as a personality, Like Nini doesn't

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Speaker 2: try hard to be funny. So like Nimi's greatest memes

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Speaker 2: and gifts of all time are things she's naturally doing,

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Speaker 2: like talking about Kenya's white refrigerator, or telling Kenya I

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Speaker 2: said what I said, or walking into a situation saying

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Speaker 2: what is this, honey, like Nimi is a walking sound bite.

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Speaker 2: So I do believe that there is a world where

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Speaker 2: Nimi is able to just do what's show on her own.

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Speaker 2: I would love to see what's happening with her lounge, Thelenithia.

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Speaker 2: I would love to see this new relationship she has

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Speaker 2: with Naomi, her boyfriend, and I want to see what's

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Speaker 2: going on with her children, her grandchild, and how she's

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Speaker 2: navigating through life post Greg Leeks. So I'll say this much,

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Speaker 2: I know Nini and we still talk, so perhaps I'll

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Speaker 2: get Nini to talk about it herself.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, I literally have full body shells you

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Speaker 1: just saying that, like, I need to hear a conversation

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Speaker 1: between you and need to go down. You don't even

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Speaker 1: have to talk about reality TV. What you got planned.

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Speaker 1: Could you could legitimately just say the ABCS together and

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Speaker 1: I would be entertained, like I can't wait for that.

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Speaker 2: Now, that'll be good, that that'll be good. But before

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Speaker 2: I let you go, I know how to off the

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Speaker 2: press is there's some breaking news going on on Vander

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Speaker 2: pump Rules. Evan.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So, apparently at Sheena's wedding, her her second wedding to Brock,

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Speaker 1: which was a beautiful by the way, the photos were stunning.

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Speaker 1: She redeemed herself from the crap top wedding dress. We

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Speaker 1: got this gorgeous lace gown with this long avail she liked,

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Speaker 1: absolutely stunning. But while she was out here looking stunning,

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Speaker 1: apparently Tom Schwartz, who just is in the middle of

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Speaker 1: his divorce from Katie Maloney, hooked up with Raquel, who

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Speaker 1: was dating James, and they did this at the wedding.

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Speaker 1: Apparently they went into a room together, there were some

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Speaker 1: smooches and now I cannot wait for the next season

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Speaker 1: of vander Pumper Roles. Just when you kind of thought

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Speaker 1: like vander Pumperoles and may have been on its last leg,

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Speaker 1: the kids are bringing the jama They know what to

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Speaker 1: do to get me at the ropes right back into it.

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Speaker 3: I cannot wait. I live for the mess.

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Speaker 2: So can you confirm though, that this wedding was filmed

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Speaker 2: for the show.

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Speaker 1: Yes, the wedding was filmed for the show, so we

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Speaker 1: will play We'll see this.

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Speaker 3: Play out on the show. Definitely the wedding.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if there were cameras and a micro

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Speaker 1: around for this a secret makeout between Tom and Raquel,

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Speaker 1: but I'm living for it because they've kind of been

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Speaker 1: hinting at this. Like Tom was on Sheena's podcast recently

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Speaker 1: and was like, yeah, like Raquel's kind of cute.

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Speaker 3: I'm kind of feeling her. So I am. I'm not

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Speaker 3: mad at it.

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Speaker 1: I know that Katie is probably not very happy. They

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Speaker 1: were spotted filming a few weeks back. Tom and Katie

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Speaker 1: in a very intense argument, and apparently it was about

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Speaker 1: him kind of flirting with other girls. So even though

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Speaker 1: they're getting divorced, she's like, you're still my baby, and

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be a minute before I'm gonna let you

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Speaker 1: hook up with other girls. I mean, unfortunately that's not

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Speaker 1: her choice now that she filed for divorce from him.

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Speaker 3: So I'm glad.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad that Tom seems to be able to move

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Speaker 1: on because I was actually worried about him. I felt

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Speaker 1: like he would be like stuck being single forever because

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Speaker 1: I felt like he was so comfortable in his marriage

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Speaker 1: with Tom Sports. And he's told me this as much

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Speaker 1: like he was like, I do not feel ready to date.

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Speaker 1: This was like back in April, he was like, I

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Speaker 1: can't date. It's I can't even like take my wedding

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Speaker 1: ring off. So he is making strides and Katie has

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Speaker 1: been on a few dates since calling it quits with Schwartz,

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Speaker 1: So like, if you're gonna spread your wings in fly,

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Speaker 1: you gotta let him leave the nest to Katie.

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Speaker 2: So Lisa banned upon present.

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Speaker 1: Do you know that Actually, now that you say that,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't remember seeing her in any

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Speaker 1: of the pictures. I actually need to look into that

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Speaker 1: because I feel like I've been seeing all these she

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Speaker 1: Anda wedding photos and I'm like, where did Maybe I

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Speaker 1: was so focused on the fact that Sina wasn't wearing

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Speaker 1: a crop top wedding dress that I just like totally

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Speaker 1: forgot that Lisa was there. But uh, yeah, thanks for

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Speaker 1: bringing that up, Carlos, because now I'm like what she there.

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Speaker 1: I feel like she would have been she wouldn't have

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Speaker 1: missed that. But I don't know if she would have

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Speaker 1: flown to Mexico because she's got a lot going on.

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Speaker 3: Do you know what.

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Speaker 1: Actually, I don't think she was there because my friend

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Speaker 1: was just in Vegas at her restaurant in Vegas and

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Speaker 1: she texted me She's like, oh my god, Lisa and

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Speaker 1: kenn are here and they're taking pictures with fans. So

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Speaker 1: I don't think she could have been in Vegas and

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Speaker 1: Mexico at the same time.

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Speaker 3: So I don't know. I'm looking into this. I'm on it.

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Speaker 2: You're on the job. See what happens on reality but

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Speaker 2: the king when you get the exclusive, when you don't

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Speaker 2: know that you're about this bill and exclusive. That's the

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Speaker 2: purpose of this podcast, guy. So Evan, I adore you,

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Speaker 2: I love you, and I'm sure my listeners want to

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Speaker 2: follow you and just continue to get the tea from you.

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Speaker 2: So let us know where we can follow you and

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Speaker 2: where they can find you.

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Speaker 1: So you can find me at Evan Reil on Instagram.

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Speaker 1: I post a lot of my interviews there and also

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Speaker 1: on page six dot com. You can check out what's

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Speaker 1: going on there and then also I just launched my

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Speaker 1: podcast with Page six. It's called Virtual Reality, and we've

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Speaker 1: some fun guests. Recently Drew Sidora from Atlanta is the

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Speaker 1: most recent guest. Her and Ralph Pittman came onto the

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Speaker 1: co host that with Danny Murphy at Page six and

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Speaker 1: you can check that out on Spotify and wherever you

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Speaker 1: get your podcasts, Apple, like wherever you want to listen,

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Speaker 1: you can, so yeah, check me out, guys.

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Speaker 2: I love that. But congratulations on the podcast. You know,

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Speaker 2: I adore you. We will be following and subscribing and

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Speaker 2: continue to support you. So make sure the next tea

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Speaker 2: you get, honey, you come back on Reality with the

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Speaker 2: King and you give it to my fans.

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Speaker 3: Oh you know, I'm always here for you.

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Speaker 2: Yes, all right, but thank you Evan.

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Speaker 3: All right, thanks Carlos.

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Speaker 2: This was fun. Hey, rain drops. See, I really hope

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Speaker 2: that you guys had a lot of insight based on

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Speaker 2: the conversation between Eva and I. As you can see,

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Speaker 2: even Evan Child wants me to do a Love and

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Speaker 2: Marriage Atlanta starring Ninni leaks. Hey, Look, I'll say this once,

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Speaker 2: I'll say it again. I'll say it over and over

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Speaker 2: and over and over. I love me some Nini. I

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Speaker 2: adore her, and if there's ever an opportunity for her

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Speaker 2: and I to work together, trust me, I will jump

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Speaker 2: at the chance. And that's all I will say. Okay,

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