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Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: Well, listen. The college football conference championships aren't even done yet,

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Speaker 1: the playoffs two weeks away. So when they created the

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Speaker 1: College Football Playoff, it solved what we thought was the

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Speaker 1: big problem with college football, a better ending. Well, the

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Speaker 1: ending's crazier than ever, and Bruce Feldman from The Athletic

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Speaker 1: and Fox Sports is joining us. Listen. It's a circus.

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Speaker 1: I don't like any of it. I like some of it.

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Speaker 1: Let's start with Miami. I think they have a real,

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Speaker 1: real beef. Yes, Louisville's a bad loss, but SMU's not

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Speaker 1: a terrible loss. Eight and fourteen, they got money. They

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Speaker 1: were in the playoff last year. It was close. It

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Speaker 1: was an SMU. I think Miami has the biggest argument

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Speaker 1: to be in.

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Speaker 3: Do you I do, Colin If you have head to

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Speaker 3: head and that's what happened Miami Notre Dame played. This

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Speaker 3: isn't a hypothetical. They have the exact same record, They

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Speaker 3: have a bunch of common opponents. Notre Dame's best win

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Speaker 3: is over a three loss USC team that they beaten

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Speaker 3: South Bend. It's not like Notre Dame has this great

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Speaker 3: schedule of wins. But what's craziest to me is the committee.

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Speaker 3: They tried out Hunter Yuroicek, who's the Arkansas ad who

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Speaker 3: this year is the chairman of the committee, and then

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Speaker 3: he gets himself twisted in knots with all this like

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Speaker 3: double talk and you know, basically stepping on a rake

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Speaker 3: every time he gets asked a question. You know, he's

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Speaker 3: talking about how Notre Dame has these these really good losses.

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Speaker 4: Well, who was one of the losses they had lost

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Speaker 4: to Miami?

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Speaker 3: And people can turn around and say, well, if they

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Speaker 3: played again today, Notre Dame will be favored.

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Speaker 4: Notre Dame was favored actually the first time in Miami.

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Speaker 3: So you have two teams with the exact same record,

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Speaker 3: and in this sport, head to head has to count.

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Speaker 3: It has to matter because we do so much projecting,

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Speaker 3: because we have such the smallest sample size in college

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Speaker 3: football of any of the sports that if you just

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Speaker 3: completely dismiss head to head results of what happened on

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Speaker 2: Then?

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Speaker 3: Why are we playing the games? Why not just let

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Speaker 3: computers play out this season. It's just it is ridiculous

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Speaker 3: that it's gotten to this point. And again, I think

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Speaker 3: so much of what the issue here is is we

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Speaker 3: have ESPN plaid a lot of money to get the

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Speaker 3: CFP and to milk some extra ratings out of this.

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Speaker 3: They come up with this Tuesday Night rankings reveal show

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Speaker 3: that started way too early.

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Speaker 4: It's in early November.

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Speaker 3: The committee locked, you know, kind of gets locked into

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Speaker 3: these positions. Miami had the same record as Notre Dame

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Speaker 3: and still beat them, you know in the first rankings,

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Speaker 3: but they were like ten spots behind them.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was ten and eighteen, right, it was like

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Speaker 3: It's just, you know, it's not just the Miami Notre

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Speaker 3: a check. Especially the committee chairman just contradicts himself at

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Speaker 4: They go along. It's an embarrassment for the sport.

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Speaker 1: It really is, let's how do you solve it? There?

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Speaker 1: People talk about different ways to solve it. I always

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Speaker 1: blockchain that it is what matters. I don't know what matters.

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Speaker 1: Notre Dame lost at home to Northern Illinois last year.

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Speaker 1: Now they got in. So to my take is, let's

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Speaker 3: The first thing I would say is you can have

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Speaker 3: The games have to matter. I don't care if you

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Speaker 4: You know, it's like the.

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Speaker 3: the Patriots are way more talented than the Giants. That

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Speaker 3: so let's just give the Super Bowl to the team.

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Speaker 4: We think is better. You know, it's just like, the

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Speaker 3: Upsets happen, crazy stuff happens, especially in college football. But

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Speaker 3: to say, oh, the game happened in the first week

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Speaker 4: No, it's not. We don't have preseason in college football.

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Speaker 3: That's the NFL that has the preseason has a seventeen

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I've said for years it reminds me of boxing

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Speaker 1: every man for themselves. You know, the old wild Wild West,

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Speaker 1: I had predicted when the NIL came out. I said,

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Speaker 1: I don't think NIL is going to crush the little guy.

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Speaker 1: rich boosters. Well, now all of a sudden, Indiana Vandy,

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Speaker 1: it's fun to watch USC number one in recruiting Oregon

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Speaker 4: It's like they've often won in spite of that.

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Speaker 3: And so I think that you know, some of that

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Speaker 3: I think it's you know, if you're a US event,

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Speaker 3: it's great that you had a number one rank recruiting class.

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Speaker 3: what is your plan?

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Speaker 4: How does where's the follow through? And all that.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't guarantee you really anything, but it does give

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Speaker 4: Was a nine win season.

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Speaker 3: I don't think, you know, they really look like a

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Speaker 1: Listen, I try not to be Pollyanna with sports. Lane

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Speaker 1: Kiffin got a better job offer. Everybody knows who Lane

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Speaker 1: Lane Kiffen was going to bolt make it ugly if

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Speaker 1: So it happened. I don't love it the college football playoff.

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Speaker 1: Leaving that feels gross. Leaving a random bowl game when

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Speaker 1: Were you deeply bothered by his exit with the Rebels

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Speaker 4: No, I was. I wasn't shocked from this standpoint.

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Speaker 3: Like I know, there's been a lot of stories written

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Speaker 3: it was surprising to me that can a coach basically

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Speaker 3: it's just like, that's not the time to do that.

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Speaker 3: But look, nothing should surprise us anymore, Colin. I mean,

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Speaker 3: we're at this different ear and honestly, you know, and

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Speaker 3: some of my colleges pointed this out to me a

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Speaker 3: it'd probably be Lane Kiffin, you know, and I think,

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Speaker 3: his players and they weren't just his players, they were

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Speaker 4: That ain't great. But you know, LSU fans are going

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Speaker 3: And I think he win there because until Brian Kelly,

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Speaker 3: the last three coaches all won national titles there and

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Speaker 3: I would not be surprised if Wayne did too, because

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Speaker 3: that place can attract talent, and it's different kind of talent.

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Speaker 4: It's just a different deal.

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Speaker 8: It's a great time to be a soccer fan.

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Speaker 6: On Friday, it all kicks off with the FIFA World

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Speaker 1: At Friday, draw for the World Cup. Cannot wait. Jmack

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Speaker 6: All right, let's go to Texans Chiefs Colin, this is

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Speaker 9: right now, and has a really good defense, and so

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Speaker 9: we're going to throw it all out there and try

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Speaker 9: to find a way to win. And this will be

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Speaker 9: a big game for us to showcase who we are

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Speaker 9: and who we can be moving on the rest of

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Speaker 9: the season.

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Speaker 1: I think I think at this point, you know the

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Speaker 1: truth about every single team in the league probably knew

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Speaker 1: it about two weeks ago. And the truth about the

445
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Speaker 1: Chiefs is defensively, they don't get people off the field

446
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Speaker 1: on third down like they have in previous years, and offensively,

447
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Speaker 1: the O line is a liability and this whole line

448
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Speaker 1: against Houston is all banged up.

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Speaker 8: J Mack.

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Speaker 1: I think this is a low scoring game and I

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Speaker 1: like the Texans plus the hook.

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Speaker 8: I love it.

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Speaker 6: I'm looking at the practice report literally thirteen minutes ago.

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Speaker 6: It's so cold right now. They're practicing indoors in Kansas City.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I keep hearing about a polar vortex.

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Speaker 8: In the Midwest. Can you talk a little bit.

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Speaker 6: I don't know what that means, but it sounds terrifying.

458
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Speaker 6: But to the offensive line, Colin no Juwan Taylor at practice,

459
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Speaker 6: no Tray Smith. We know the rookie from Ohio State

460
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Speaker 6: has a busted up angle. I think he's on ir

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Speaker 6: You could be down three offensive linemen against arguably be

462
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Speaker 6: the best pass rush in the league.

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Speaker 1: Yep.

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Speaker 8: My only concern is that Stroud in this cold weather.

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Speaker 6: He's a guy, He's a West Coast guy. I know

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Speaker 6: he played at Ohio State, but this cold weather. How

467
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Speaker 6: bad is it going to be in the Midwest?

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Speaker 1: Buddy Chili.

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Speaker 8: Like teens.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, is Woody Mark's available? If you can run the ball,

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Speaker 1: that helps Houston.

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Speaker 6: He was at practice today. Woody Marks and Chubb a

473
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Speaker 6: pretty decent one two punch. So you like Texas, do

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Speaker 6: they win outright? And then put Casey on the brink.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I just know the hook is. I

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Speaker 1: think it's a I think it's low scoring. I think

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Speaker 1: it's twenty four to twenty three. I think that Houston's

478
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Speaker 1: defense is good against pretty good offensive lines, that it

479
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Speaker 1: will push Kansas City's online all over the field.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, all right, let's move on to the next story, and.

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Speaker 6: That is Bill Belichick officially was named a finalist for

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Speaker 6: the Pro Football Hall of Fame Class of twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 6: I don't think we need to go over Belichick's resume.

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Speaker 6: It's pretty much impeccable. I would assume you think he's

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Speaker 6: a first ballot slam dunk get in there, right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't even think it's.

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Speaker 8: Should be automatic.

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Speaker 6: The real question is how much scrutiny do we give

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Speaker 6: his resume post Brady Tom left And again I'm not

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Speaker 6: burying the guy, but he struggled.

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Speaker 1: No, I mean, he was a great defensive coordinator and

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Speaker 1: then he has failed as a head coach without Brady.

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Speaker 1: And that's true in Cleveland, and that's true in New

494
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Speaker 1: England and That's the truth, is that post without Brady's

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Speaker 1: not the same coach. That doesn't mean he wasn't a

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Speaker 1: brilliant defensive coordinator. It doesn't mean he's not a brilliant guy.

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Speaker 1: But I always thought the end of Bill was when

498
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Speaker 1: Bill took over had too much control over the personnel.

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Speaker 1: And he's not a good drafter. And I watched North

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Speaker 1: Carolina and he wasn't good in the NIL. That is

501
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Speaker 1: not his strength. He knows football, but Jimmy Johnson was

502
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Speaker 1: great with personnel. Harbaugh's shown an ability to be great

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Speaker 1: helping in the draft room. Sean Payton can do that.

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Speaker 1: Some guys like Shanahan aren't as good in personnel. They're

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Speaker 1: great with schemes. So my take is Bill had power flexed,

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Speaker 1: used it and it was to his detriment on personnel.

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Speaker 8: So you made a good point earlier in the show.

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Speaker 6: Remember you were like, hey, Shanahan has two Super Bowls

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Speaker 6: with Elway.

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Speaker 8: So I looked it up and it's hard.

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Speaker 6: You know, I'm thinking this about Belichick, but Shanahan won

512
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Speaker 6: seven playoff games in two years with Elway. The rest

513
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Speaker 6: of his career one playoff league. It's really hard to

514
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Speaker 6: win in football. If you don't have quarterback. Now, the

515
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Speaker 6: question on Brady is he was a note Sorry, Tom,

516
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Speaker 6: he was a sixth round pick. He was like a

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Speaker 6: nobody coming into the league. Then became the greatest of

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Speaker 6: all time. But like without a quarterback, like you mentioned earlier,

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Speaker 6: Tomlin post Roethlisberger, Like what's he doing?

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Speaker 8: So do we really have to kill Belichick post Brady?

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Speaker 8: For no, he's not delivery.

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Speaker 1: It's like Michael Jordan. He was so great in his prime.

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Speaker 1: The Wizards don't matter. You know, Shack was don't count that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean Shaq wore about six different uniforms in the end.

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Speaker 1: He was so great with the Lakers in Orlando, it

526
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Speaker 1: just doesn't matter.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Kobe Bryant was amazing with Gasol and with Let's

528
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Speaker 6: just forget about those.

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Speaker 8: Years where he didn't have either of them and they

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Speaker 8: couldn't get.

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Speaker 6: Out of the first round. So it's a fun topic.

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Speaker 6: I love this stuff.

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Speaker 8: Final story, Colin, I don't love this.

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Speaker 6: The LA Clippers aka the paper Clips. They cut Chris

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Speaker 6: Paul loose in the middle of the night this week,

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Speaker 6: and LA Clippers stars James Harden and Kawhi Leonard claimed

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Speaker 6: they were shocked that Chris Paul was The Clippers decided

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Speaker 6: to part with him after a three hour late night

539
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Speaker 6: convo between Lawrence Frank and Chris.

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Speaker 8: Paul at the team hotel in Atlanta.

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Speaker 6: Now, apparently this happened because Tylu and CP.

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Speaker 8: Three were not on speaking terms right for like weeks.

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Speaker 8: I mean, that's not great.

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Speaker 6: So Jim Lawrence Frank had to fly from LA to

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Speaker 6: Atlanta to talk to Chris Paul and put him down

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Speaker 6: nicely not great. James Harden says, I'm just as shocked

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Speaker 6: and confused as you guys the world. I'm not as

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Speaker 6: shocked as everybody else, are you. I mean, Chris Paul's

549
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Speaker 6: averaging two points a game. What's a big deal here? Well,

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Speaker 6: he's not like a rotational guy.

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Speaker 1: I think there's a much bigger I mean, he's a

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Speaker 1: Hall of Famer. There's a much bigger picture here. Is

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Speaker 1: at the windows close very quickly in sports, usually a

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Speaker 1: little slower in the NBA than the NFL. But the

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Speaker 1: Clippers have to start over like they're bad, and the

556
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Speaker 1: West is young and getting better. They have Kawhi and

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Speaker 1: James Harden and Chris Paul. West is young, dominant, getting better.

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Speaker 1: Drafts are getting more important, the Clippers need a reboot.

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Speaker 1: Tyleru is very very good. But the Harden Kawhi thing,

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Speaker 1: I didn't get it. I didn't get Kawhi's extension. He's

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Speaker 1: not a leader. Your best player had better have some

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Speaker 1: leadership skills. He doesn't. I think the whole thing signals

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Speaker 1: a reboot over the next calendar year.

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Speaker 6: The problem that first round pick they have goes to OKC.

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Speaker 6: So don't tank, guys, please, right, you can't win seventeen

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Speaker 6: games or the thunder get like the fifth pick in

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Speaker 6: the draft.

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Speaker 1: Jmack with the news, Well that's the news, and thanks

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Speaker 1: for stopping that.

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Speaker 2: The herd line news.

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Speaker 1: All right, it's a very very interesting college football weekend,

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Speaker 1: and it's a great NFL weekend starting tonight. I like

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Speaker 1: Dallas at Detroit. Everybody seems to lean that way. Maybe

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Speaker 1: it spells doom for Dallas. I think Cincinnati at Buffalo

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Speaker 1: early window has upset written all over it. I think

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Speaker 1: Joe Burrow's back, he's healthy, he's got a spring in

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Speaker 1: his step, and they put up big points last weekend.

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Speaker 1: I think Cincinnati over Buffalo very much on the table.

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Speaker 1: Do you have a potential upset in your world?

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Speaker 6: A do the Jets count as an upset their dogs

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Speaker 6: at home against the Dolphins? Not really, not really, Okay,

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Speaker 6: I will go a little risky here.

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Speaker 8: If you're asking me for an upset, Jay Mack, you

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Speaker 8: gotta give me one.

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Speaker 6: Give me the Atlanta Falcons getting seven and a half

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Speaker 6: seven against Seattle at home.

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Speaker 8: Colin, I've been crunching some weird numbers here. This is strange.

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Speaker 8: In the last three, three, maybe four weeks. If you

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Speaker 8: look at teams.

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Speaker 6: Coming from the West to the East late in the season.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they're tired.

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Speaker 6: A lot of flops chargers get smashed by the Jags.

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Speaker 6: Rams weirdly loose to the Panthers. There's like five of them,

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Speaker 6: and I'm like, what's going on? And I just wonder,

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Speaker 6: if you know, after that Sam Darnold kind of train wreck,

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Speaker 6: maybe the Falcons are able to unlock some stuff defensively

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Speaker 6: to slow Donald again sneakily. The last three weeks, Donald's

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Speaker 6: numbers have been bad. They just I mean, there have

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Speaker 6: four interceptions obviously against the Rams that help. But there's

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Speaker 6: a world where the Falcons keep this close. I don't

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Speaker 6: trust Kirk Cousins ever under any circumstances. But Drake London

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Speaker 6: may return, so I would just keep an eye on

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Speaker 6: Falcon Seahawks.

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Speaker 8: That's come down from eight and a half to seven.

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Speaker 1: Do you have a strong play on Eagles at Chargers?

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Speaker 8: Well, I just saw the Jalen Carter news.

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Speaker 6: We're not doing in the show today, but Jalen Carter

608
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Speaker 6: is going to be out multiple weeks.

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Speaker 8: With some doubles shoulder issue.

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Speaker 1: That's not great.

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Speaker 8: The only data point we.

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Speaker 6: Have without Jalen Carter is the Cowboys running all over

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Speaker 6: them in the season opener, and you know, wouldn't you

614
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Speaker 6: know it, but Jim Harball likes to run the football.

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Speaker 6: Hampton could come back. Not great news for the Eagles.

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Speaker 6: I had peg the Eagles is a great spot.

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Speaker 8: I don't know anymore.

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Speaker 1: Colin, Yeah, yeah, I like the Texans and the points.

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Speaker 1: I'm betting one of the ugliest games I've ever bet.

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Speaker 1: Do you make a living out of that? I don't.

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Speaker 2: Don't tell me.

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Speaker 8: It's Browns Titans.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it is, Maybe it is.

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Speaker 6: The producers are telling me to move off that game quickly.

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Speaker 6: Let's go to a game people actually care about. Raven Steelers.

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Speaker 6: Did you see Lamar I'm not practicing today. He practiced yesterday.

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Speaker 1: There's no way in that game I'm gonna swallow that

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Speaker 1: many points. I'll take Pittsburgh in the points. That rival.

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Speaker 1: That game's a field goal game every time. And right

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Speaker 1: now Baltimore's offense is broken. Forget it. I'm not that

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Speaker 1: game is going to be close. Also, Mike Tomlin's being

632
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Speaker 1: told he's gonna get fired, so you know he's gonna

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Speaker 1: go circle the wagons. Its circle the wagons game. Let's

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Speaker 1: talk Dallas tonight, Greg Cosel earlier forty six years at

635
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Speaker 1: NFL Films, I asked Greg thoughts on the Dallas defense.

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Speaker 1: What does the film say.

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Speaker 10: The first five six weeks people are laughing at their defense,

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Speaker 10: And now you know they made those trades. Obviously they

639
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Speaker 10: got Kenny Clark before the season, but the in season

640
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Speaker 10: trades they have made been really impressive, and they're the

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Speaker 10: trio of d tackles is as good a trio as.

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Speaker 6: Any in the league.

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Speaker 2: With what they've done.

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Speaker 10: Up front, the returner of overshown, the trading for Logan Wilson.

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Speaker 10: Suddenly this defense, well, well it's not top five in

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Speaker 10: the league, but it's a good enough defense to win games.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think there's any question and the Cowboys.

648
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 1: They knew what Demarvin Overshown was coming back, and so

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Speaker 1: they knew they'd have an athletic edge. And with Kenny

650
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Speaker 1: Clark and Clinton Williams in it, two things are true.

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Speaker 1: Micah was great for the Packers, and moving off, Micah

652
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Speaker 1: was great for flexibility, which eventually was great for the

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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys. Matt Moseley, who covers them, some thoughts on

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Speaker 1: the new look Dallas Cowboys.

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Speaker 7: Jerry is feeling great about things, and boy he is

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Speaker 7: now openly talking about the playoffs and it's it's been

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Speaker 7: an amazing.

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Speaker 2: Run for him.

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Speaker 7: And I think this Quinn Williams saying, you know, it's

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Speaker 7: amazing that Micah is having the kind of season he is,

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Speaker 7: and if the Cowboys had continued down the path they

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Speaker 7: were going, that would be the overriding story. Look at

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Speaker 7: this guy blowing up. He's incredible. And yet nobody in

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Speaker 7: conversation around the Cowboys is saying anything about Micah because

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Speaker 7: of the trades that Jerry has made.

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Speaker 1: That's right, So in Dallas, that would overwhelm sports talk radio,

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Speaker 1: that would overwhelm, you know, water cooler discussion. Nobody cares

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Speaker 1: Mike is gone. The defense is great. Dak's having the

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Speaker 1: best year ever. The other thing is Dallas has two

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Speaker 1: first round picks next year. It is a great egg

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Speaker 1: rusher draft. What do you know, Dallas has two firsts

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Speaker 1: and the interior of the line set. The other thing

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Speaker 1: for Dallas is they can they can move down. They

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Speaker 1: don't need a quarterback. They'll be six or seven desperate teams.

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Speaker 1: Several were well draft the quarterback. So Dallas and their

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Speaker 1: offensive line, they're two guards. They've they've used some draft

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Speaker 1: capital on interior offensive lineman. The next last several drafts,

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Speaker 1: they've hit on both. They're both stars. So my take

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Speaker 1: of their few first round picks, one of them may

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Speaker 1: be a right tackle. One of them is going to

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Speaker 1: be an edge. But what the Micah trade allowed is

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Speaker 1: for a deal maker, Jerry Jones to make deals and

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Speaker 1: in my lifetime, the smartest people I don't care if

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Speaker 1: it's Jeff Vizos, I don't care if it's a friend

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Speaker 1: of mine. The smartest people I know. They want flexibility.

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Speaker 1: They don't want to be trapped Micah. Signing him would

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Speaker 1: have trapped you. Green Bay has hit on so many

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Speaker 1: of their draft picks. They could afford Mike as a

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Speaker 1: closer exciting times. I like Dallas tonight