WEBVTT - 158 Did R. Kelly deserve 30 years?

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<v Speaker 1>We like to welcome everyone to another episode Against the

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<v Speaker 1>Chronicles podcast and I'm with my dog today, Big Jag James.

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<v Speaker 1>We was having a discussion yesterday about R. Kelly, and

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of wanted to um teague on with that

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<v Speaker 1>because me and you read on some things and disagree

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<v Speaker 1>on some things. He's presently serving time right now. How

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<v Speaker 1>many years of aget thirty? So he got thirty years,

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<v Speaker 1>right man, It's been people that murdered people have got

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<v Speaker 1>less time, and that people that got fifteen years is

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<v Speaker 1>people that't got awfrom murder. But the main thing, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean two different scenarios. You know, he got convicted of

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<v Speaker 1>uh trafficking, you know what I'm saying. How these people

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<v Speaker 1>went with him willingly and came home. You know, these

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<v Speaker 1>females lived with him, you know what I'm saying. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's fucked up because you know, I've always heard people say,

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<v Speaker 1>when you're taking care of motherfucker, they're good. When you

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<v Speaker 1>stopped taking care of motherfucker, everything go back. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>what happened with this dude in this case. You know

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<v Speaker 1>why the parents ain't being convicted of child abuse because

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<v Speaker 1>ain't no where in the world. My daughter is gonna

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<v Speaker 1>go and be going two weeks at a time, a

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<v Speaker 1>week at a time at sixteen and seventeen years old,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't know where she at. So you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think they should be held accountable for their position.

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<v Speaker 1>They rolled, they play in this whole situation, but they're not,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. So you know, I just

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<v Speaker 1>think the lords fucked up when it comes to that

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<v Speaker 1>type of situation. Yeah, it's wrong, and we're not condoning

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<v Speaker 1>in any way, shape or form his actions, but you

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<v Speaker 1>gotta call a state of state. Sometimes it's like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you see these parents, they were well aware of what

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<v Speaker 1>was going on with their daughters and it was all good,

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<v Speaker 1>like you said, when the bread was rolling, but then

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<v Speaker 1>when the money stopped going through issue, But I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, even you know the way he conducted else,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you can't say he's right. It's sucking wrong

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<v Speaker 1>if you know, uh, you you thirty five and you're

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<v Speaker 1>working with a seventeen year old, you know that hands off.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, he's guilty of that ship, Yeah he's guilty,

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<v Speaker 1>and yeah he should be serving time. But I think

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<v Speaker 1>you know the trim they threw him, the trafficking thing

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they're almost treating like he was a pimp,

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<v Speaker 1>like he was out there Pip and the family, Right,

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<v Speaker 1>Pimps don't even get that much time. Doug. Yeah, it

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<v Speaker 1>just seems real personal with me. It just seemed like

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<v Speaker 1>it was real first though to me, because you got

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<v Speaker 1>a guy man, and you just imagine his mind stadiums

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<v Speaker 1>Now he's used to being out there doing this thing,

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<v Speaker 1>making music, traveling, going to go do shows and stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Now he's sitting the sale. Well, to me, our past,

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<v Speaker 1>what we do today is gonna catch up with us, bro,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's not paying attention to that. You're not subject

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<v Speaker 1>uh to to different ship because you're a sucking superstar

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<v Speaker 1>because people see you, you know, because you can see

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<v Speaker 1>you're not You're not what's going to that? So, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>what he did and what he was doing, man, he

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<v Speaker 1>should that. He had a whole lot of time to

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<v Speaker 1>think and reflect on how you getting down, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>being a rich motherfucker, you know what I'm saying. So,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, females was so easy for this man because

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<v Speaker 1>everybody wanted to R Kelly be around the r Kelly.

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<v Speaker 1>They everybody, all these females want to be around that superstar,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. So whatever his sexual appetite was,

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<v Speaker 1>it could have been with a woman of age. You

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying. It's a lot of badass women

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<v Speaker 1>his age. You don't have to pick and choose a

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<v Speaker 1>child to me a child. So do I say he's

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<v Speaker 1>guilty of I say that yes, because I wouldn't do it.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't need no female five and I'm fifty something.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't need that. I don't know. Definitely, he's definitely

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<v Speaker 1>guilty and he's where he should be. My whole thing

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<v Speaker 1>was just a think with Lord James. We gotta be

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<v Speaker 1>real careful because the punishment has to fit the crime. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>if they gave him, if they gave him, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>two to five years, said okay, he's gonna serve his thing.

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<v Speaker 1>And one thing we gotta remember R Kelly. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>R Kelly can't read past the fourth grade left, so

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<v Speaker 1>his level of understanding with certain things, it's kind of different.

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<v Speaker 1>You understand what I mean. It ain't listen and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not making an excuse for him, but I think with him,

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<v Speaker 1>he liked dealing with the kids, with the younger girls,

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<v Speaker 1>because he was on the same wave Lincoln as them.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think he could have handled conversation with a

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<v Speaker 1>mature dog. If this man can right, if this man

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<v Speaker 1>can sing sexual healing, and the way he do it

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<v Speaker 1>he is mentality is well above talking to a woman

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<v Speaker 1>of age. Bro. If he can't read, that don't mean

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<v Speaker 1>he don't can't write music. He doing it, okay. So

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<v Speaker 1>just because you don't read, Floyd Mayweather is a fucking millionaire.

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<v Speaker 1>He couldn't read at the beginning. I don't know where

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<v Speaker 1>his level at now, but he couldn't read me. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna speak for me. I didn't get past the tenth

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<v Speaker 1>month in grade. I court school in the ninth in

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<v Speaker 1>the middle of the night. But my comprehension level is

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<v Speaker 1>is well above a dummy, well abub a dummy. So

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<v Speaker 1>I self taught myself to be better when it comes

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<v Speaker 1>to reading and understanding what I read. So you can't

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<v Speaker 1>sit in and tell me that dude didn't understand. I

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<v Speaker 1>know the difference between a seventeen, eighteen or thirty five

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<v Speaker 1>year one. He definitely did. And I'm not making excuses

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<v Speaker 1>from and I will be the first who say this.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of the most breeding people that I know have

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<v Speaker 1>not made it past high school. I know. I know too,

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<v Speaker 1>billionaires that hadn't graduated high school. And then we can't

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<v Speaker 1>blame it on his his high school school education. And

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<v Speaker 1>they ain't got nothing to do with that. R Kelly

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<v Speaker 1>is a is a man, A talented motherfucker. He can

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<v Speaker 1>talk and he talked well, so he knows the difference

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<v Speaker 1>and I understand that, I get it. But the only thing, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he sucked up, but he is not the only person

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<v Speaker 1>in this situation that sucked up. Oh not at all,

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<v Speaker 1>not at all. And there were other people, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I know R Kelly. He didn't mention nobody else in

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<v Speaker 1>the thing. I think they were after him on purpose, James.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he pissed somebody off and it was on

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<v Speaker 1>him possibility, possibility. I think he pissed somebody off and

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<v Speaker 1>he was on his ass man, because you gotta remember

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<v Speaker 1>this dude is like R. Kelly is in his fifties,

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<v Speaker 1>not right, Yeah, in his fifties, he'd be eighty year old.

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<v Speaker 1>Eighty years old, so they pretty much gave him life.

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<v Speaker 1>He has life, and I don't know if he's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get the roll without how does that work? He might

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<v Speaker 1>get action if I'm quite sure. He appealonated the time,

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<v Speaker 1>so they might take some time off or whatever. I

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<v Speaker 1>ain't never, I ain't there with the system man goddamned

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<v Speaker 1>since but and the laws that's changed, so he might

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<v Speaker 1>get lucky and get out sooner than that. But when

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<v Speaker 1>you're sucking you in the vet's you're gonna do the

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<v Speaker 1>majority of that time. So as it stands now, he's

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<v Speaker 1>looking to be seventies some years old when he come home. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and again I I gotta say this change because people

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<v Speaker 1>haven't had it nowadays. Is not paying attention to stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>We are not in any way, shape or form, controning

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<v Speaker 1>this man's actions, not at all. If we think he's dead,

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<v Speaker 1>that's wrong and he should be where he's at, well

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<v Speaker 1>he should. I mean, JA Prince said this when you

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<v Speaker 1>when you let me let me see it, because I

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<v Speaker 1>gotta say it a different way now him. We all

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<v Speaker 1>make decisions and we gotta live. But of decisions we

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<v Speaker 1>make choices, the choices we make, we gotta we gotta

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<v Speaker 1>live with that. And you know it's not just R.

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<v Speaker 1>Kelly out here that lived that way. It's not just R. Kelly,

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, but don't come after R Kelly after

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<v Speaker 1>twenty years, you know what I'm saying, Like they did

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<v Speaker 1>Bill Cosby, don't come after him after fifty years and

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<v Speaker 1>just dog him out because of a certain situation. Are

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<v Speaker 1>are he was getting too too too big? You know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. So you know, we gotta watch ourselves.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying. When we get money, it

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<v Speaker 1>becomes a problem for us for entertainers. Look what's happening

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<v Speaker 1>with the rappers. They give money, we don't don't know

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<v Speaker 1>how to to control ourselves and live right, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. But you know it's just the way

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<v Speaker 1>you do ship now with R. Kelly, Okay, he's in jail.

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<v Speaker 1>But us as parents, how did our kids get in

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<v Speaker 1>that position? They was not cooking because I wouldn't know

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<v Speaker 1>one thing you have to know about the music business, James,

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<v Speaker 1>I worked in it for a long time, and whenever

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<v Speaker 1>I did deal with kids, you know, anyone that was

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<v Speaker 1>in the eight team, their parents were heavily involved. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>talking about from the studio sessions to everything. It was

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<v Speaker 1>always like and it was usually the mom. It's always

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<v Speaker 1>the mom, and that was her full time job to

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<v Speaker 1>watch her child, you know. And I respected that. I

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<v Speaker 1>actually liked that, And if I would have seen the

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<v Speaker 1>kid in the studio by itself, I would have had

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of questions about that, like where there is that?

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<v Speaker 1>Because now you've got a liability something happened to this

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<v Speaker 1>kid that rests on you as the company, you see

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. So, I think those parents were very

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<v Speaker 1>well aware of the situation that they were in and

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<v Speaker 1>they were fine on with everything as long as the

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<v Speaker 1>money was coming in. With a lot of people, they

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<v Speaker 1>lived through their children. So you're pretty sure, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>somebody's daughter as the opportunity to probably mess with R.

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<v Speaker 1>Kelly in that fashion. You know, as far as the

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<v Speaker 1>music goes and everything, he's a brigant songwriter, he's a

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<v Speaker 1>brigant producer. Why would you not want your son and

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<v Speaker 1>daughter involved with them? You understand you wouldn't want them

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<v Speaker 1>because they're not of age to make those decisions for self.

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<v Speaker 1>So the parents has the right are supposed to be

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<v Speaker 1>parents and and and make decisions for the seventeen sixteen.

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly what I'm saying, bro, is that they should be

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<v Speaker 1>around to manage those situations too. It's almost like the

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<v Speaker 1>kid has a chance to make it in life, right,

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<v Speaker 1>a boy working with this certain guy. But you still

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<v Speaker 1>you can't just trust the fact that he is celebrity

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<v Speaker 1>he's gonna do the right thing is you don't know

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<v Speaker 1>this man. You don't know what kind of defiant ways

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<v Speaker 1>he may have thoughts he may have in his mind

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<v Speaker 1>right of that they was trying to get a record deal,

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<v Speaker 1>whether they was just females groupies, regardless of what the

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<v Speaker 1>case might have been. If they are supervised, supervised by parents,

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<v Speaker 1>none of this can happen. They shouldn't be left alone

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<v Speaker 1>with r. Kelly. This is a grown ass man, this

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<v Speaker 1>grown ass man, so you he have to hire a

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<v Speaker 1>shopping wrong from my child. My child ain't going nowhere.

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<v Speaker 1>You're grown man. When the way ship is going to

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<v Speaker 1>day and the way people UH conduct theirself today, you

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<v Speaker 1>gotta be careful, especially with your kids. You gotta be overprotective.

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<v Speaker 1>You do. You have to. I've never seen one of

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<v Speaker 1>the games. I never played, James. Thank God, all of

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<v Speaker 1>my kids are grown now so to speak, like my

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<v Speaker 1>daughter just turned their team right. I've never aliveed none

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<v Speaker 1>of those guys to go for other people's house suspending night.

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<v Speaker 1>My whole thing was what you got to go spend

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<v Speaker 1>that over the house where you seeing tomorrow. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know their parents, and even if I didn't know the

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<v Speaker 1>so I felt like my kids need to be in

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<v Speaker 1>the house of my house at that time. There's just

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<v Speaker 1>too much stuff that can happen. What Like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the difference. You have good parents and you have

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<v Speaker 1>bad parents. And then you have parents that don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to be parents, that don't give a funk. You have

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<v Speaker 1>parents that want to hang out and get high with

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<v Speaker 1>their kids and don't see no wrong. Do what you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do. I'm doing me. You've got mothers out there

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<v Speaker 1>that want to be the home girl or or hang

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<v Speaker 1>out in the clubs, don't have time to be parents.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's where we fall victim too, and should happen

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<v Speaker 1>to our kids because we're not policing or patrolling our

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<v Speaker 1>kids like we should. And I say we to not

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<v Speaker 1>have people think that, oh he's gonna say they No,

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<v Speaker 1>we should be protecting our kids. My daughter went to prison,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think I did everything that I can do

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<v Speaker 1>for her not to go to prison. I couldn't imagine

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<v Speaker 1>my daughter in prison. You feel me? So I had

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<v Speaker 1>a big issue with what the fund. Did I do wrong?

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<v Speaker 1>Because I had her for eight years, but I allowed

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<v Speaker 1>her to go back. So that's when everything went back.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, I put that ship behind me, and

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<v Speaker 1>and you know it's You're still a parent. Whether your

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<v Speaker 1>kids get grown or not, you're still a parent and

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<v Speaker 1>I want the best regardless. But some of us don't

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<v Speaker 1>think like that, bro, some of us don't think that

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<v Speaker 1>my days is over ship. I'm I'm a parent and

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<v Speaker 1>a grandparent and taking care of mines a lot of that.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's the thing, because you never stopped being a

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<v Speaker 1>pan right now, I told you, you know, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>like with my daughter turned eighteen, I'm gonna tell her, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you eighteen, it's time for you to go making the world. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm well aware. Hell, I got one that's grown as

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<v Speaker 1>all get out. He paid his own bills, but he's

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<v Speaker 1>still in the house with me. Right. Let me ask

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<v Speaker 1>you this. Your daughter just turned their team. Right. Can

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<v Speaker 1>a thirty year old cat come to the house and

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<v Speaker 1>say I'm taking your daughter out? Oh? No, definitely not. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>there it is there, There is there. We would have

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<v Speaker 1>an issue because even though she's of age right now,

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<v Speaker 1>for technically by the laws, she can do what she

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<v Speaker 1>want to do. No, I'm still a parent. I still

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<v Speaker 1>have to be responsible to say, no, dude, you're too

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<v Speaker 1>old for my daughter. Yeah, you know how old she is?

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<v Speaker 1>Because and my thing is this, I wouldn't be so

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<v Speaker 1>quick to blast home either, because the first thing I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do with I my ask and I'm gonna say,

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<v Speaker 1>did you tell this man and how old you were?

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<v Speaker 1>Did you tell? Did you tell him how old you were?

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<v Speaker 1>Because the thing, you know, my daughter eighteen, but she

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<v Speaker 1>looked like she could be twenty or twenty one. But

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<v Speaker 1>would he be a predator though knowing that she eight

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<v Speaker 1>team but still like her? Yeah, I think to a

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<v Speaker 1>certain point, I think it comes to a point, James,

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<v Speaker 1>to where it ain't just about the legal ramifications. You've

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<v Speaker 1>got a moral responsibility. Because my thing would be is

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<v Speaker 1>the man being the age I am. I'm fifty two now.

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't see no need to talk about with my wife.

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't eighteen year old ain't got no conversation for me, right, right?

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<v Speaker 1>But you know what I mean, I don't have a

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<v Speaker 1>conversation for her. She don't have nothing for me, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So that's that's cool. Man, but yeah, ship has just

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<v Speaker 1>sucked up today, you know. But they're going up to

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<v Speaker 1>your boy bill again like you just see it. They're

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<v Speaker 1>going out the bill calls be again, and why that

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<v Speaker 1>man is old? Let that man live. It's like you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying, he's out letting him do him?

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<v Speaker 1>But you know I can't nobody and then see the

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<v Speaker 1>cold thing about it is all of this ship happened

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<v Speaker 1>forty years ago, fifty years ago, in his prime, and

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<v Speaker 1>y'all want to attack this man now, just like it's

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<v Speaker 1>a statutic. There's no statute what's called him? No, what's

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<v Speaker 1>called him? Statue of limitation on murder? They should put

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<v Speaker 1>you don't like this type of ship right here? You

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<v Speaker 1>can't come and holler rate after fifty years and I

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<v Speaker 1>go to prision board, you gotta like bucked up? It

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<v Speaker 1>should it right? When you know what? You know what

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<v Speaker 1>I do think? Man, I think it's like this. I

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<v Speaker 1>think because there here's a statue with limitations on certain things.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe. I believe this, man. I believe a woman's

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<v Speaker 1>body is hers. If a woman tells you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>no right. I believe that you feel what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're both thinking of the same wave length. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>I think like this. I think a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>see opportunity. James and I want to get this disclaimer too.

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<v Speaker 1>We're not saying that we don't agree with none of that.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't agree with great. We think of woman's rights

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<v Speaker 1>are her rights, and she has the right to choose

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<v Speaker 1>to do what she wants to do it anytime, even

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<v Speaker 1>she has started already. She has the right to tell

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<v Speaker 1>you, you you know what, I changed my mind. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to. She has a right to do that. But

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<v Speaker 1>what means ain't both for sayings that at a certain

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<v Speaker 1>amount of time it should be a thing. Well, why

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<v Speaker 1>did you wait so long to come forward? Right? I

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<v Speaker 1>mean it holds no variance there standing on. Okay, now,

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<v Speaker 1>you're only saying that he touched me. You ain't got

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<v Speaker 1>no finger prints, You ain't got nothing to say that

0:17:07.480 --> 0:17:11.680
<v Speaker 1>this man violated you. But you're words. Come on, man,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's crazy, bro. It's money, James, A lot of

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<v Speaker 1>it's money too. Yeah, and and and me and you

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<v Speaker 1>talked about this even with your son. You know, being

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<v Speaker 1>in the NFL, you know you're gonna have females look

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<v Speaker 1>at him and say Oh yeah. You know, you got

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<v Speaker 1>women out there today that looked for athletes because they

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<v Speaker 1>feel they paid. Not all women, but you've got some

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<v Speaker 1>women out there with that mentality you got, so you

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<v Speaker 1>know you have to be careful in history. Tell you

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying, I ain't lying. There's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>men out there that pro athletes then got caught up.

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<v Speaker 1>But hey, if you keep your ship to yourself, you

0:17:55.600 --> 0:18:00.800
<v Speaker 1>ain't got no problems. So you know the month and

0:18:00.840 --> 0:18:02.679
<v Speaker 1>this is what they saying. I wanted to find this um.

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<v Speaker 1>And when y'all see me looking down like this, it

0:18:06.000 --> 0:18:09.000
<v Speaker 1>don't mean that I'm sleeping out there looking at It

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<v Speaker 1>means I'm looking at my damn, I'm looking at some information.

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<v Speaker 1>You feel what I'm saying because I ask somebody tell me,

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<v Speaker 1>way up, steal what time? I'm like, dude, like, how

0:18:16.680 --> 0:18:20.960
<v Speaker 1>would I be holding the conversation? I'm sleep anyway here.

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<v Speaker 1>There's yesterday, a civil jury found that disgraced comedian Bill

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<v Speaker 1>Calls the sexually abused Judith Youth when she was sixteen

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<v Speaker 1>years old the nineteen seventy five, and the wake of

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<v Speaker 1>the verdict, calls the team is calling it an astonishing

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<v Speaker 1>victory yesterday, actoring comedian Bill Calls he was awarded an

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<v Speaker 1>astonishing victory by jurors and a civil trial brought by

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<v Speaker 1>You to Youth. Read the statement from college spokesperson Andrew Wytt.

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<v Speaker 1>The jurors decided to bran Judy Hoof with a five

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<v Speaker 1>d thousand dollar verdict for voted nine three in favor

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<v Speaker 1>of not rewarding this youth any punitive damages. So they're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna give the girl some money. I guess then, right,

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<v Speaker 1>the voting nine favorite not rewarding miss you for any

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<v Speaker 1>punitive damage. It's strange to consider a verdict which confirms

0:19:05.520 --> 0:19:09.360
<v Speaker 1>cause be sexually assaulting to monitor in any sort of victory. However,

0:19:09.560 --> 0:19:13.120
<v Speaker 1>the part they seem to celebrate concerns the punitive damages, which,

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<v Speaker 1>if reward would have been caused be active with malice

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<v Speaker 1>of pressing or fraud. Many he would have to pay

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<v Speaker 1>a lot more money despite the victory caused these. Lawyer

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<v Speaker 1>Jennifer Boyan plans on a pillion of verdict, stating Youth

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<v Speaker 1>would never receive a pay there so she won five

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<v Speaker 1>hundred thousand dollars. That's what I'm saying, James. It was

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<v Speaker 1>a it was a civil trial. She wanted to go

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<v Speaker 1>get some money, right, she figured everybody else got paid,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go get paid too. So what grounds do

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<v Speaker 1>this is in nineteen seventy five? Know him? At what

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<v Speaker 1>point you're telling me from nineteen seventy five to now,

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<v Speaker 1>you're you're still a victim of circumstances of what he

0:19:51.320 --> 0:19:54.680
<v Speaker 1>did to you. Come on, if he did that in

0:19:54.960 --> 0:19:58.159
<v Speaker 1>nineteen seventy five, he should have been going to trial

0:19:58.280 --> 0:20:00.399
<v Speaker 1>at court for that. He should have been a arrested.

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<v Speaker 1>If you, if he violated you see people get out

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<v Speaker 1>of out of this ship. When they said, oh I

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<v Speaker 1>was scared. I didn't know what to do. You know,

0:20:08.680 --> 0:20:10.760
<v Speaker 1>Nigga's getting ready. Oh I didn't know what to do.

0:20:10.840 --> 0:20:13.600
<v Speaker 1>So I didn't say nothing. That's embarrassing. No, if a

0:20:13.680 --> 0:20:18.040
<v Speaker 1>motherfucker violated you, he should go to jail. I don't

0:20:18.080 --> 0:20:22.960
<v Speaker 1>give a funk what. But in nineteen seventy five, Come on, man,

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<v Speaker 1>that's forty something, forty seven motherfucking years ago. That's wrong

0:20:27.920 --> 0:20:29.679
<v Speaker 1>to go. I'm gonna take you. The thing that trips

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<v Speaker 1>me out about the calls we think this new thing

0:20:32.040 --> 0:20:34.960
<v Speaker 1>is they considered that a victory. Okay, she only gotta

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<v Speaker 1>get five hundred thousand dollars because they did never mixed

0:20:37.880 --> 0:20:41.359
<v Speaker 1>the fact that okay, so you did this Bill, Bill

0:20:41.480 --> 0:20:43.720
<v Speaker 1>was off the change man. I'm not saying Bill probably

0:20:43.720 --> 0:20:48.119
<v Speaker 1>deserved to do every for the time, but he did. Listen,

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<v Speaker 1>Bill Cosbi and the only motherfucker they was touching and

0:20:53.600 --> 0:20:56.800
<v Speaker 1>growsing people. You're a rich motherfucker, you do what you

0:20:56.840 --> 0:21:01.200
<v Speaker 1>want these people coming into your circle. These people put

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<v Speaker 1>theirselves in situations that they don't have to be. If

0:21:06.160 --> 0:21:09.080
<v Speaker 1>you knew this motherfucker grow to one time, you know

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<v Speaker 1>not to be around this motherfuck again. On top of that,

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<v Speaker 1>Bill Cosby, that black man ain't the only motherfucking man

0:21:16.119 --> 0:21:19.439
<v Speaker 1>that touched people. Hell, Donald Trump say, grabbed the pussy.

0:21:19.680 --> 0:21:22.040
<v Speaker 1>Well that's what I was gonna say. Donald Trump is

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<v Speaker 1>probably the worst one of them off. But if you notice,

0:21:25.359 --> 0:21:27.880
<v Speaker 1>he had the same accusation story him, but all those

0:21:27.920 --> 0:21:32.480
<v Speaker 1>people got made look like they were frogs. Why because

0:21:32.560 --> 0:21:35.960
<v Speaker 1>he took a different route than Bill Cosby. We're gonna

0:21:36.000 --> 0:21:38.399
<v Speaker 1>get rid of you, motherfucker's are we gonna pay you?

0:21:38.480 --> 0:21:41.520
<v Speaker 1>Motherfucker's under the table for the ship to go away.

0:21:41.960 --> 0:21:44.120
<v Speaker 1>Bill Cosby felt like, wait a minute, this was too

0:21:44.160 --> 0:21:48.080
<v Speaker 1>long ago. I ain't did that. That was too long ago.

0:21:48.280 --> 0:21:51.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't remember that ship or whatever. I'm not guilty.

0:21:51.119 --> 0:21:56.880
<v Speaker 1>So he thought that ship. He both paying all these

0:21:56.920 --> 0:21:59.679
<v Speaker 1>motherfucker's off and let it go away. You see, I

0:21:59.720 --> 0:22:01.880
<v Speaker 1>think I think Trump and that was with the UM.

0:22:01.920 --> 0:22:05.840
<v Speaker 1>I forget the lady's name that had the accusation against Trump,

0:22:05.880 --> 0:22:08.640
<v Speaker 1>the porn star, but he had already paid her off though,

0:22:08.720 --> 0:22:10.480
<v Speaker 1>so she had a thing to where she she wasn't

0:22:10.520 --> 0:22:12.480
<v Speaker 1>supposed to come back and say nothing. Donald Trump ain't

0:22:12.480 --> 0:22:14.560
<v Speaker 1>playing on games. I think Donald Trump is probably more

0:22:14.600 --> 0:22:18.720
<v Speaker 1>gangs than all them dudes. Yes, yeah, because he didn't

0:22:18.720 --> 0:22:20.359
<v Speaker 1>have these type issues and he didn't do a look

0:22:20.400 --> 0:22:23.600
<v Speaker 1>at time, right, So I mean, you know, it's just

0:22:24.000 --> 0:22:27.960
<v Speaker 1>it's all about the person. It's different. I don't want

0:22:27.960 --> 0:22:31.160
<v Speaker 1>to say try to pull no race card and says

0:22:31.160 --> 0:22:34.560
<v Speaker 1>it's all about the race. But man, let's just be

0:22:34.680 --> 0:22:38.280
<v Speaker 1>drying and cut. I mean, you know, we get the

0:22:38.400 --> 0:22:41.879
<v Speaker 1>hardest sentence than the next motherfucker. You know what I'm saying.

0:22:41.880 --> 0:22:46.119
<v Speaker 1>We had looked at as animals and most people eyes

0:22:47.160 --> 0:22:51.080
<v Speaker 1>opposed to I committed the same crime this motherfucker did.

0:22:52.080 --> 0:22:55.919
<v Speaker 1>But I get fifty and he get four what's the

0:22:56.000 --> 0:23:00.760
<v Speaker 1>fucking difference. We both killed the motherfucker. Yeah, why he

0:23:00.840 --> 0:23:05.600
<v Speaker 1>only get four and I get life. So I mean,

0:23:05.840 --> 0:23:07.760
<v Speaker 1>you just gotta look at it that way. And I

0:23:07.800 --> 0:23:11.920
<v Speaker 1>think all black people gotta be careful in any motherfucking way. Yeah,

0:23:11.960 --> 0:23:15.560
<v Speaker 1>they do, you know, because we're always under surveillance. We

0:23:15.680 --> 0:23:19.160
<v Speaker 1>always um, you know, shout up to my son. Man.

0:23:19.160 --> 0:23:21.200
<v Speaker 1>He just took me and my wife and my family.

0:23:21.280 --> 0:23:23.199
<v Speaker 1>We just went out to Hawaiian. You know, I'm had

0:23:23.240 --> 0:23:24.920
<v Speaker 1>a good time out there. And I noticed we was

0:23:24.920 --> 0:23:27.560
<v Speaker 1>in a really nice hotel, right, and it was real

0:23:27.640 --> 0:23:30.320
<v Speaker 1>weird because you know, you're walking the hallway with somebody

0:23:30.400 --> 0:23:32.359
<v Speaker 1>ain't paying attention to him, but they could tell they

0:23:32.440 --> 0:23:34.639
<v Speaker 1>kind of work wondering about you. So I'm walking behind

0:23:34.720 --> 0:23:38.320
<v Speaker 1>these m this family, right, they got two kids with him,

0:23:38.400 --> 0:23:41.479
<v Speaker 1>one holding the baby, and they're walking and they were

0:23:41.480 --> 0:23:44.240
<v Speaker 1>walking so damn fast, James, like, they're trying to get

0:23:44.240 --> 0:23:45.760
<v Speaker 1>away from me. Then they run to the door in

0:23:45.840 --> 0:23:47.520
<v Speaker 1>the room and they get that. They fight, They mess

0:23:47.560 --> 0:23:48.760
<v Speaker 1>up with a little card to get the room, and

0:23:48.760 --> 0:23:50.840
<v Speaker 1>they heard getting their slamming the door, and I'm like, damn,

0:23:53.320 --> 0:23:58.320
<v Speaker 1>that's that's been happening. And happened to me in my

0:23:58.400 --> 0:24:01.680
<v Speaker 1>early days. You know, you're standing in the market or

0:24:01.760 --> 0:24:05.080
<v Speaker 1>you're standing in the bank and a motherfucker clinched their

0:24:05.119 --> 0:24:09.280
<v Speaker 1>purse or walk past their car and then you walk

0:24:09.359 --> 0:24:11.120
<v Speaker 1>past them and they turn around and go right back

0:24:11.160 --> 0:24:15.600
<v Speaker 1>to their car. They just they just scared of black people. Yeah,

0:24:15.680 --> 0:24:18.679
<v Speaker 1>like we just do it. Like like me all by myself.

0:24:18.680 --> 0:24:20.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna check you, your husband, all your kids.

0:24:21.040 --> 0:24:23.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna grab y'all and just do whatever I

0:24:23.359 --> 0:24:25.640
<v Speaker 1>want to do. Y'all. It's like it's it's crazy. We've

0:24:25.640 --> 0:24:27.480
<v Speaker 1>been going to that forever and they ain't gonna stop

0:24:27.520 --> 0:24:29.639
<v Speaker 1>no time soon. And I'm gonna tell you what's not

0:24:29.720 --> 0:24:34.160
<v Speaker 1>making it no better? James, you know, you look at r. Kelly,

0:24:34.840 --> 0:24:37.840
<v Speaker 1>You look at that guy Bill calls me me, and

0:24:37.960 --> 0:24:40.440
<v Speaker 1>you both know people personally that they have done things

0:24:40.520 --> 0:24:43.840
<v Speaker 1>they shouldn't be doing right that may not necessarily be

0:24:43.880 --> 0:24:46.640
<v Speaker 1>against the law per se, but like, man, that girl, man,

0:24:46.680 --> 0:24:48.440
<v Speaker 1>you got a daughter, her age. Man, come on, you

0:24:48.480 --> 0:24:51.520
<v Speaker 1>got an exercise better judgment and that Yeah, he know better.

0:24:51.560 --> 0:24:54.800
<v Speaker 1>That's what I said earlier. He know better. So I

0:24:54.840 --> 0:24:56.800
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't give a funk if he couldn't read it right,

0:24:57.000 --> 0:25:01.480
<v Speaker 1>He no better if if if you know she's sixteen.

0:25:01.520 --> 0:25:04.280
<v Speaker 1>But the cold thing about that is some of these

0:25:04.280 --> 0:25:07.720
<v Speaker 1>girls don't look sixteen and seventeen. Some of these girls

0:25:08.160 --> 0:25:15.040
<v Speaker 1>are they sixteen seventeen? But saying fast, last girls out here? Yeah,

0:25:15.119 --> 0:25:18.600
<v Speaker 1>so after the girls they lying at this point, he

0:25:18.600 --> 0:25:21.160
<v Speaker 1>didn't hit already, so it's too late. So I don't

0:25:21.200 --> 0:25:23.760
<v Speaker 1>even funk. I old you is now I'm man, I'm

0:25:23.840 --> 0:25:28.320
<v Speaker 1>enjoying myself. But the ship that he did, I mean,

0:25:28.560 --> 0:25:32.840
<v Speaker 1>who ain't freaking I like the whoop a motherfucker asked

0:25:32.880 --> 0:25:36.440
<v Speaker 1>and put body que pins and ship on the nipples

0:25:36.440 --> 0:25:41.480
<v Speaker 1>and do whatever you know. But do you understand what's

0:25:41.520 --> 0:25:44.119
<v Speaker 1>going on? She okay, that's cool. It six things, But

0:25:44.160 --> 0:25:46.479
<v Speaker 1>that's what I'm saying. That's a difference you with another

0:25:46.520 --> 0:25:49.879
<v Speaker 1>consenting a dot. And if y'all decide to go in

0:25:49.840 --> 0:25:52.280
<v Speaker 1>there and poke each other's eyeballs out, that's y'all. Rights

0:25:52.280 --> 0:25:55.879
<v Speaker 1>is grown as a dolts, don't nobody somebody, nobody should

0:25:55.880 --> 0:25:58.680
<v Speaker 1>have anything to say. But when a girl is that young,

0:25:58.720 --> 0:26:00.840
<v Speaker 1>and this is what I truly know, James, and this

0:26:00.920 --> 0:26:04.840
<v Speaker 1>is what you know too. When you're young, you can't process,

0:26:04.920 --> 0:26:08.439
<v Speaker 1>you process things a certain way. It's not necessarily the

0:26:08.440 --> 0:26:11.720
<v Speaker 1>best thing for you. See there you go again. These

0:26:11.800 --> 0:26:15.920
<v Speaker 1>kids be a conscious. These kids get and get them

0:26:16.000 --> 0:26:19.080
<v Speaker 1>v I P. Passes and looking sexy and older than

0:26:19.160 --> 0:26:21.480
<v Speaker 1>what they are and then want to go and meet

0:26:22.040 --> 0:26:24.720
<v Speaker 1>or they go to the rooms and standing by once

0:26:24.760 --> 0:26:27.040
<v Speaker 1>they find out where your rooms and ship that they there.

0:26:28.200 --> 0:26:31.880
<v Speaker 1>So that man and walked into that that that that hotel,

0:26:32.400 --> 0:26:34.959
<v Speaker 1>and uh, you have a whole bunch of boopies right

0:26:35.000 --> 0:26:38.040
<v Speaker 1>there he got he can pick and choose. Let me

0:26:38.080 --> 0:26:43.240
<v Speaker 1>get them through. So he got somebody grabbing motherfucker's. He

0:26:43.359 --> 0:26:47.280
<v Speaker 1>got somebody grabbing motherfucker's out the audience. He got somebody

0:26:47.320 --> 0:26:51.959
<v Speaker 1>grabbing motherfucker's that behind that line. Oh for sure, C James,

0:26:52.400 --> 0:26:55.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm not seeing them. These people are innocent. I'm not

0:26:55.320 --> 0:26:57.040
<v Speaker 1>saying it at all. But what I am saying is

0:26:57.119 --> 0:26:59.760
<v Speaker 1>you ask any If you ask any thirty year old

0:26:59.800 --> 0:27:03.520
<v Speaker 1>one in the day, they might have a sorry ass,

0:27:03.600 --> 0:27:06.159
<v Speaker 1>or might have had a relationship that maybe wasn't the

0:27:06.160 --> 0:27:08.399
<v Speaker 1>best thing. May have been an older cat that was

0:27:08.400 --> 0:27:10.560
<v Speaker 1>married at something else. Now she got a kid and

0:27:10.680 --> 0:27:12.159
<v Speaker 1>kind of just getting hit off to the side. If

0:27:12.160 --> 0:27:14.800
<v Speaker 1>you asked her now at thirty if she would do

0:27:14.840 --> 0:27:17.160
<v Speaker 1>the same thing that she did when she was seventeen eighteen,

0:27:18.200 --> 0:27:20.360
<v Speaker 1>them gonna tell you I would do things way different.

0:27:20.520 --> 0:27:23.520
<v Speaker 1>They're actually baring their kids and stuff. So you know,

0:27:24.000 --> 0:27:25.879
<v Speaker 1>it's one of those things, man, that where you do

0:27:25.920 --> 0:27:28.000
<v Speaker 1>mature as you get older, because I know, I'm definitely

0:27:28.040 --> 0:27:30.119
<v Speaker 1>not the same man at fifty two that I was

0:27:30.160 --> 0:27:34.439
<v Speaker 1>at twenty two. Totally different people. And I know for

0:27:34.520 --> 0:27:36.560
<v Speaker 1>a fact that you're not the same person that you

0:27:36.640 --> 0:27:39.440
<v Speaker 1>are now then you were when you're nineteen and twenty.

0:27:39.480 --> 0:27:41.440
<v Speaker 1>It's just different. You grow and you evolved, you know

0:27:41.480 --> 0:27:44.120
<v Speaker 1>what I mean, You crossess things differently. So I think

0:27:44.119 --> 0:27:46.200
<v Speaker 1>with these girls with kids, I noticed they live in

0:27:46.280 --> 0:27:48.600
<v Speaker 1>the moment. Well, I was like that, you were like

0:27:48.680 --> 0:27:50.600
<v Speaker 1>that because we feel like we're gonna live forever. We

0:27:50.600 --> 0:27:53.360
<v Speaker 1>don't really think about stuff, see what I mean. It's

0:27:53.359 --> 0:27:54.840
<v Speaker 1>a whole lot of stuff I wish I could go

0:27:54.920 --> 0:27:58.000
<v Speaker 1>back and change. Well, these young girls, they like that

0:27:58.160 --> 0:28:01.480
<v Speaker 1>entertainment ship they liked these same years. They like them

0:28:01.520 --> 0:28:04.600
<v Speaker 1>singers that you know, the Ushers and and all that

0:28:04.640 --> 0:28:08.040
<v Speaker 1>ship genuine and all of the other ship. They like

0:28:08.200 --> 0:28:11.960
<v Speaker 1>that ship. They love entertainment. They love to see that's

0:28:12.040 --> 0:28:15.440
<v Speaker 1>their man of today, you know what I'm saying. So, yeah,

0:28:15.440 --> 0:28:19.399
<v Speaker 1>they are vulnerable because that's what they like, you know

0:28:19.480 --> 0:28:22.080
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. And and when you get a man

0:28:22.200 --> 0:28:26.280
<v Speaker 1>that that's into that type of ship, that has that mindset,

0:28:26.680 --> 0:28:29.639
<v Speaker 1>I'd rather fun with a younger female than an older

0:28:29.680 --> 0:28:34.639
<v Speaker 1>female because I can tame her or my conversation is

0:28:34.680 --> 0:28:38.520
<v Speaker 1>more stronger to her than a woman of age. You know,

0:28:38.560 --> 0:28:40.400
<v Speaker 1>a woman of age ain't been a biting into that

0:28:40.480 --> 0:28:45.440
<v Speaker 1>dumb ships say, yeah, older woman is not going for

0:28:45.480 --> 0:28:48.200
<v Speaker 1>certain stuff, dude, especially when they got their stuff together.

0:28:48.200 --> 0:28:51.360
<v Speaker 1>They don't give a celebrity right. They will tell you, no,

0:28:51.560 --> 0:28:53.240
<v Speaker 1>we're not doing that. This is the way this go.

0:28:53.520 --> 0:28:55.400
<v Speaker 1>They gonna dictate the terms of how things are go

0:28:55.560 --> 0:28:58.360
<v Speaker 1>to go. What I'm saying, You see what I'm saying.

0:28:58.520 --> 0:29:01.920
<v Speaker 1>And if the major thing is still man, I'm gonna

0:29:01.960 --> 0:29:05.320
<v Speaker 1>tell you what's happening to James. A lot of these

0:29:05.440 --> 0:29:08.480
<v Speaker 1>um guys when they talk to these girls or whatever,

0:29:08.960 --> 0:29:10.760
<v Speaker 1>it's a thing that what you say, they may know

0:29:10.840 --> 0:29:12.320
<v Speaker 1>in the back of their mind to look at us,

0:29:12.320 --> 0:29:14.480
<v Speaker 1>say she's look a little too younger for damn. She

0:29:14.520 --> 0:29:17.520
<v Speaker 1>finds hell, you know, she finds itself. So some people

0:29:17.640 --> 0:29:21.520
<v Speaker 1>sure to choose to ignore the obvious, right, You see

0:29:21.520 --> 0:29:23.720
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying. Some people play games against the obvious.

0:29:23.800 --> 0:29:25.640
<v Speaker 1>It's like, dude, you look at her. I don't care

0:29:25.680 --> 0:29:27.960
<v Speaker 1>how she looked. She looked like a baby. She looked

0:29:27.960 --> 0:29:30.360
<v Speaker 1>like jail Baker. To me, we will be honest, man.

0:29:30.840 --> 0:29:35.240
<v Speaker 1>Some some other fuckers just don't care, just don't care.

0:29:35.840 --> 0:29:39.360
<v Speaker 1>But are they predators? Hell yeah, anytime a man up

0:29:39.360 --> 0:29:42.600
<v Speaker 1>with a child, he's in his thirties and forties and

0:29:42.760 --> 0:29:45.360
<v Speaker 1>fifty and you you want a tuny two year old woman,

0:29:45.760 --> 0:29:47.720
<v Speaker 1>That tuny two year old woman ain't gonna make you

0:29:47.800 --> 0:29:50.640
<v Speaker 1>no younger. You're still a old motherfucker. You're still a

0:29:50.720 --> 0:29:53.640
<v Speaker 1>sucking sugar daddy. But you got young women out there

0:29:53.680 --> 0:29:56.360
<v Speaker 1>looking for that older dude. They want to be taking

0:29:56.440 --> 0:30:01.800
<v Speaker 1>care of. They want the money. But you, you solicit

0:30:01.880 --> 0:30:07.760
<v Speaker 1>your body for dumb for you know another thing that

0:30:07.800 --> 0:30:10.760
<v Speaker 1>these young girls not thinking when they're messing with these entertainments.

0:30:11.960 --> 0:30:14.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna say no James names James, but it

0:30:14.520 --> 0:30:16.840
<v Speaker 1>is two big R and B stars right now. They've

0:30:16.840 --> 0:30:18.959
<v Speaker 1>got herpes. It's a whole bunch of them running from

0:30:18.960 --> 0:30:21.240
<v Speaker 1>wrong with herpes. There's a punch that I'm running around

0:30:21.240 --> 0:30:24.320
<v Speaker 1>with HIV and whatever else. So you have to be

0:30:24.440 --> 0:30:28.680
<v Speaker 1>really really careful because especially with the fact um with

0:30:29.200 --> 0:30:32.480
<v Speaker 1>everything is able to be managed now because of medicine, right,

0:30:33.400 --> 0:30:36.000
<v Speaker 1>So you know whereas thirty years ago if you had herpes,

0:30:36.000 --> 0:30:38.280
<v Speaker 1>it was almost like, man, my life is over with

0:30:38.680 --> 0:30:40.720
<v Speaker 1>Now people going on with their life and they take

0:30:40.720 --> 0:30:42.840
<v Speaker 1>them feels and they're not giving the damn about springing

0:30:42.840 --> 0:30:45.040
<v Speaker 1>to nobody else because they have the resources to take

0:30:45.080 --> 0:30:47.320
<v Speaker 1>care of theirselves. But they had to go offenstly with

0:30:47.400 --> 0:30:50.160
<v Speaker 1>somebody raw and give them a disease. And I'm talking

0:30:50.160 --> 0:30:52.280
<v Speaker 1>about these girls as young ain't even live their life yet,

0:30:52.320 --> 0:30:54.160
<v Speaker 1>and these people who don't give a damn. So I

0:30:54.200 --> 0:30:57.040
<v Speaker 1>always told my kids without what I told my kids

0:30:57.040 --> 0:30:59.560
<v Speaker 1>was just coming up because one thing is about the James.

0:30:59.560 --> 0:31:01.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't care how good of a parent you think

0:31:01.200 --> 0:31:03.840
<v Speaker 1>you are. You're not gonna stop your kids who want

0:31:03.840 --> 0:31:05.920
<v Speaker 1>to go do their thing. If they want to go do,

0:31:05.960 --> 0:31:07.360
<v Speaker 1>if they got to make it up in their mind,

0:31:07.640 --> 0:31:09.479
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna find a way, just like we found a way.

0:31:09.520 --> 0:31:11.520
<v Speaker 1>They go sneak off and trail off and do stuff.

0:31:11.640 --> 0:31:13.120
<v Speaker 1>They go find a way to go do it, so

0:31:13.160 --> 0:31:14.800
<v Speaker 1>you have to execate them and be real what I am.

0:31:14.800 --> 0:31:17.120
<v Speaker 1>I told all my kids. I said, it is very real,

0:31:17.960 --> 0:31:20.520
<v Speaker 1>herpes is very real. It's all kinds of other stuff

0:31:20.520 --> 0:31:23.160
<v Speaker 1>you can get to that people don't talk about with

0:31:23.240 --> 0:31:26.840
<v Speaker 1>our kids today. They choose not to listen to what

0:31:27.000 --> 0:31:30.600
<v Speaker 1>the parent is saying because even if they get it

0:31:30.600 --> 0:31:33.680
<v Speaker 1>from somebody else, they might believe it. But trying to

0:31:33.760 --> 0:31:36.880
<v Speaker 1>school and groom like my daughter, you know, telling her

0:31:37.000 --> 0:31:40.000
<v Speaker 1>what type of nigga, nothing ever with at that time

0:31:41.240 --> 0:31:43.719
<v Speaker 1>when I had her. You don't want to do like

0:31:43.760 --> 0:31:46.640
<v Speaker 1>your daddy. You don't want no dude like your uncle,

0:31:46.720 --> 0:31:49.960
<v Speaker 1>timity your uncle out. This is what I don't want

0:31:50.000 --> 0:31:52.560
<v Speaker 1>you to do. Any man that put his hands on you,

0:31:53.040 --> 0:31:56.160
<v Speaker 1>any man that called you out of your name, any

0:31:56.200 --> 0:32:01.000
<v Speaker 1>man that just disrespects you, walk away. Don't deal with

0:32:01.040 --> 0:32:04.480
<v Speaker 1>that situation for a year, two years, and then say

0:32:04.600 --> 0:32:07.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't. I can't get out of this bullshit. You

0:32:07.680 --> 0:32:11.560
<v Speaker 1>have a choice, and it shouldn't take you six months

0:32:11.560 --> 0:32:14.400
<v Speaker 1>to find out what type of person you have or

0:32:14.440 --> 0:32:17.840
<v Speaker 1>what you're dealing with. So you know, even though you

0:32:17.880 --> 0:32:21.200
<v Speaker 1>know I explained all this, you know, our kids tend

0:32:21.280 --> 0:32:25.120
<v Speaker 1>to go with the opposite because they have yet to

0:32:25.160 --> 0:32:27.840
<v Speaker 1>live that life. They don't understand it. Even if they

0:32:27.960 --> 0:32:30.920
<v Speaker 1>hear they don't want to hear that from their parents,

0:32:31.440 --> 0:32:33.880
<v Speaker 1>so they think they know everything or I know what

0:32:33.920 --> 0:32:40.640
<v Speaker 1>to do with that. Every were those Thames for a minute,

0:32:41.000 --> 0:32:44.440
<v Speaker 1>that was me. Somebody probably hear my fault my dad.

0:32:44.680 --> 0:32:50.320
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, you know, I think no matter what we

0:32:50.360 --> 0:32:53.760
<v Speaker 1>say to our kids, our kids gonna feel that they're

0:32:53.760 --> 0:32:57.840
<v Speaker 1>old enough to make their own decisions. And and we're

0:32:57.840 --> 0:33:00.520
<v Speaker 1>not in fault for that. You know, our kids go

0:33:00.560 --> 0:33:02.840
<v Speaker 1>out and think they're growing and do doing what they're

0:33:02.840 --> 0:33:05.280
<v Speaker 1>doing now. They want to get high and drink because

0:33:05.480 --> 0:33:08.120
<v Speaker 1>their friends doing it. And I tried to show my

0:33:08.200 --> 0:33:11.440
<v Speaker 1>daughter different, but like I said a minute ago, she

0:33:11.600 --> 0:33:14.360
<v Speaker 1>chose to do what she thought or what she think

0:33:14.480 --> 0:33:17.880
<v Speaker 1>is right. And sometimes you know what, and sometimes it's crazy,

0:33:17.920 --> 0:33:21.400
<v Speaker 1>it sounds says. Sometimes that's the best list of the

0:33:21.480 --> 0:33:23.200
<v Speaker 1>life form. When they go here and do what they

0:33:23.200 --> 0:33:25.040
<v Speaker 1>want to and don't turn out right, then they are

0:33:25.040 --> 0:33:28.320
<v Speaker 1>able to process and say, you know what, moms is

0:33:28.400 --> 0:33:31.280
<v Speaker 1>right about that possible telling me the truth. But sometimes

0:33:31.320 --> 0:33:32.959
<v Speaker 1>you don't get you don't get to come back from

0:33:33.000 --> 0:33:36.960
<v Speaker 1>your mistakes. Sometimes right, it's too late. It's too late,

0:33:37.400 --> 0:33:39.479
<v Speaker 1>you know one thing about it. You know, when I

0:33:39.520 --> 0:33:42.440
<v Speaker 1>was in Vegas, man, I've seen these young girls, you know,

0:33:42.520 --> 0:33:46.400
<v Speaker 1>coming into the casinos, you know, seventeen, you know eighteen,

0:33:46.440 --> 0:33:51.440
<v Speaker 1>They walk in the strip, they runaways. So everything every

0:33:51.520 --> 0:33:54.840
<v Speaker 1>nigga out there, every dude out there, excuse me with nigga,

0:33:55.400 --> 0:33:57.840
<v Speaker 1>but every guy out there that was so calling themself

0:33:57.920 --> 0:34:00.960
<v Speaker 1>being pimps, there was like a they are They knew

0:34:01.000 --> 0:34:03.400
<v Speaker 1>who to get, they just by how they and their

0:34:03.640 --> 0:34:08.360
<v Speaker 1>little girls was dressed. So you have a lot of

0:34:08.480 --> 0:34:11.520
<v Speaker 1>kids on the strip, a lot of these young women

0:34:11.560 --> 0:34:14.759
<v Speaker 1>out there being prostituted. Bro, you know what I'm saying,

0:34:14.760 --> 0:34:17.160
<v Speaker 1>because they don't want to buy by nor listen to

0:34:17.680 --> 0:34:23.120
<v Speaker 1>what mama, daddy gotta say that's out there right now exactly,

0:34:23.360 --> 0:34:25.239
<v Speaker 1>So they run away from home because they want to

0:34:25.239 --> 0:34:28.239
<v Speaker 1>be grown. But then you got some of them out

0:34:28.239 --> 0:34:32.319
<v Speaker 1>there that I know, um, which they never took that right,

0:34:33.480 --> 0:34:37.720
<v Speaker 1>A whole bunch of saying. You know what, man, life

0:34:37.760 --> 0:34:40.880
<v Speaker 1>is all about choices. It's all about the choices that

0:34:40.960 --> 0:34:43.960
<v Speaker 1>we make, um. And I noticed what that's especially as

0:34:44.040 --> 0:34:46.880
<v Speaker 1>black people, we have a tendency to flame mark choices

0:34:46.920 --> 0:34:52.040
<v Speaker 1>on somebody else right, choices that we make, you know, Like, um,

0:34:52.080 --> 0:34:54.279
<v Speaker 1>if I go out now and decide to go get me.

0:34:54.520 --> 0:34:57.200
<v Speaker 1>Um if I decide right now to Gordon buy me

0:34:57.239 --> 0:34:59.960
<v Speaker 1>anouncer cocaine and I'm gonna flip this in front of

0:35:00.000 --> 0:35:02.320
<v Speaker 1>make some money and I get caught in the way back,

0:35:02.960 --> 0:35:06.640
<v Speaker 1>I can't be mad at nobody else but me. I

0:35:06.680 --> 0:35:08.400
<v Speaker 1>can't be mad at to do the solda to me.

0:35:08.760 --> 0:35:11.000
<v Speaker 1>I can't be mad at the homeboy that might have suggested,

0:35:11.040 --> 0:35:12.880
<v Speaker 1>Hey man, I got a quick way we can come up. No,

0:35:13.040 --> 0:35:16.319
<v Speaker 1>because I made the choice trail off and do what

0:35:16.360 --> 0:35:18.759
<v Speaker 1>I do. You know what I'm saying. So we can't

0:35:18.760 --> 0:35:21.600
<v Speaker 1>blame nobody else but ourselves. And I always tell my kids,

0:35:21.680 --> 0:35:25.920
<v Speaker 1>man is hold yourself accountable because you can't a lot

0:35:25.960 --> 0:35:27.279
<v Speaker 1>of yourself. You can sit up here in a lot

0:35:27.320 --> 0:35:29.759
<v Speaker 1>of me and your mama all day. But don't you

0:35:29.800 --> 0:35:32.640
<v Speaker 1>think that. Don't you think what you're saying right there.

0:35:33.160 --> 0:35:35.800
<v Speaker 1>That's not just with black people. That's what all people

0:35:35.840 --> 0:35:38.319
<v Speaker 1>of coloring. Oh, it's with people of color period. It's

0:35:38.560 --> 0:35:41.480
<v Speaker 1>it's what people in general. People have a tendency to

0:35:41.600 --> 0:35:43.920
<v Speaker 1>blame other people for their problems. Like if you asked

0:35:43.960 --> 0:35:47.280
<v Speaker 1>the average white guy on why he doesn't like black people.

0:35:47.400 --> 0:35:49.640
<v Speaker 1>They will come with some way out stuff that's like

0:35:49.719 --> 0:35:51.600
<v Speaker 1>you like that, But how does that How is that

0:35:51.640 --> 0:35:54.400
<v Speaker 1>applicable to the whole black race? You feel what I'm saying.

0:35:54.880 --> 0:35:57.760
<v Speaker 1>But they may have done something out of the pocket before.

0:35:57.800 --> 0:36:00.080
<v Speaker 1>They may have lost the girlfriend to a black do

0:36:00.239 --> 0:36:02.440
<v Speaker 1>before and they hold that they here, Or they might

0:36:02.440 --> 0:36:04.759
<v Speaker 1>have got the ask by one black person before, but

0:36:04.840 --> 0:36:07.560
<v Speaker 1>they might have done something to deserve that ass whooping

0:36:07.760 --> 0:36:09.480
<v Speaker 1>and they're not looking at well, you know what, I

0:36:09.560 --> 0:36:11.080
<v Speaker 1>was out the way and it didn't have nothing to

0:36:11.080 --> 0:36:13.319
<v Speaker 1>do with him being black, for me being white. I

0:36:13.360 --> 0:36:15.120
<v Speaker 1>just got my ask for from doing some stupid ship

0:36:15.200 --> 0:36:17.480
<v Speaker 1>one day. Well, you know, I look at it like this, bro.

0:36:17.880 --> 0:36:21.719
<v Speaker 1>Half of the white kids today, even that's fifty and

0:36:21.760 --> 0:36:25.279
<v Speaker 1>in fifties, they don't know nothing about racism. They talked,

0:36:25.320 --> 0:36:28.960
<v Speaker 1>They was taught that ship just like us. We I mean,

0:36:29.000 --> 0:36:31.480
<v Speaker 1>why do we hate some of us hate white people

0:36:31.800 --> 0:36:34.120
<v Speaker 1>because of what they've done to us. I mean, we

0:36:34.200 --> 0:36:38.160
<v Speaker 1>don't live that history. It's our history. You just gotta

0:36:38.200 --> 0:36:41.960
<v Speaker 1>be careful on how you moving maneuver around their asses. Yeah,

0:36:41.960 --> 0:36:44.640
<v Speaker 1>and I'm gonna tell you this, James, I'm gonna tell

0:36:44.680 --> 0:36:46.640
<v Speaker 1>you a story real quick, man. When I first came

0:36:46.640 --> 0:36:48.120
<v Speaker 1>out here from a while, You know, I came out

0:36:48.160 --> 0:36:50.319
<v Speaker 1>here from a while. They have put us in these

0:36:50.360 --> 0:36:53.120
<v Speaker 1>apartments to where we had. It was a coolst set up.

0:36:53.160 --> 0:36:56.160
<v Speaker 1>It was like a two bed room apartment to cats

0:36:56.160 --> 0:36:58.960
<v Speaker 1>steak room. Right. You know, we college students, right, uh,

0:36:59.280 --> 0:37:01.359
<v Speaker 1>you know, had a walk strings riding, a nice little kitchen.

0:37:01.360 --> 0:37:03.080
<v Speaker 1>There was a nice little partner. Right. So when they

0:37:03.120 --> 0:37:05.520
<v Speaker 1>put this in there, and the coach did this on purpose,

0:37:05.520 --> 0:37:07.000
<v Speaker 1>I asked him later on, he said, I did it

0:37:07.040 --> 0:37:08.520
<v Speaker 1>on purpose. So you gotta need to know each other.

0:37:09.680 --> 0:37:11.840
<v Speaker 1>We had two cats in there. It was some cats

0:37:11.840 --> 0:37:15.000
<v Speaker 1>in there from Florida, from Miami, Florida. All the brothers

0:37:15.080 --> 0:37:17.879
<v Speaker 1>hung on one side of the department. The white cat

0:37:17.920 --> 0:37:21.399
<v Speaker 1>sung on another side. Right. So, come to find out,

0:37:21.680 --> 0:37:23.799
<v Speaker 1>the catch from Colorado had never been around the black

0:37:23.800 --> 0:37:27.520
<v Speaker 1>people before. You know, my guys Miami and me, we

0:37:27.600 --> 0:37:30.440
<v Speaker 1>always kind of just stayed to our own. He was

0:37:30.480 --> 0:37:33.320
<v Speaker 1>from a lot of racism Florida, a lot of racists,

0:37:33.800 --> 0:37:35.560
<v Speaker 1>hired a lot of racisms. So we kind of had

0:37:35.560 --> 0:37:38.080
<v Speaker 1>the tendency to deal with our own, right. So what

0:37:38.160 --> 0:37:41.400
<v Speaker 1>he did was he made us all switched different badrooms.

0:37:41.400 --> 0:37:46.320
<v Speaker 1>He made black. You gotta stay with him so for

0:37:46.400 --> 0:37:49.240
<v Speaker 1>a room, Nate, Yeah, and I'm gonna tell you wound

0:37:49.280 --> 0:37:51.120
<v Speaker 1>up being one of my best friends. And he was

0:37:51.160 --> 0:37:53.600
<v Speaker 1>a person whose dad was pregnant. He had grew up

0:37:53.600 --> 0:37:55.720
<v Speaker 1>being you know, like being around a lot of racism.

0:37:55.920 --> 0:37:59.239
<v Speaker 1>But his mama was very different. Marlene O'Connor, one of

0:37:59.280 --> 0:38:01.319
<v Speaker 1>the greatest white women I don't never met in my life,

0:38:01.400 --> 0:38:03.160
<v Speaker 1>treated me like a son. She had moved out to

0:38:03.239 --> 0:38:06.359
<v Speaker 1>California to take care of him. Is like second year, right,

0:38:07.040 --> 0:38:08.920
<v Speaker 1>something I thought was crazy. I was like, damn, his

0:38:09.000 --> 0:38:11.359
<v Speaker 1>mama really loved him. You know, she can't way out

0:38:11.400 --> 0:38:13.000
<v Speaker 1>here just to stay you know where he was at,

0:38:13.280 --> 0:38:15.239
<v Speaker 1>left job and everything came. I ain't got an a

0:38:15.280 --> 0:38:18.400
<v Speaker 1>partner right when she came out. Dude, he kind of

0:38:18.400 --> 0:38:20.640
<v Speaker 1>took me with him. So I was staying with them.

0:38:21.160 --> 0:38:24.120
<v Speaker 1>I lived a whole different life, all that struggling I

0:38:24.160 --> 0:38:26.399
<v Speaker 1>was doing their first Dude. They changed, and I would

0:38:26.400 --> 0:38:28.080
<v Speaker 1>never get this woman a dime. She did at the

0:38:28.160 --> 0:38:30.840
<v Speaker 1>kindness of the art, steal one for people. I know.

0:38:31.280 --> 0:38:33.279
<v Speaker 1>So you come from a situation of where you can't

0:38:33.360 --> 0:38:36.719
<v Speaker 1>judge everybody. Now her husband they had divorced by them,

0:38:36.760 --> 0:38:39.279
<v Speaker 1>but he was a very racist man. I didn't like

0:38:39.400 --> 0:38:42.160
<v Speaker 1>black people. So that's how kid was raised a little

0:38:42.160 --> 0:38:44.480
<v Speaker 1>bit of until he met me and found out like, well, man,

0:38:44.560 --> 0:38:46.640
<v Speaker 1>all the stuff my pops told me ain't really true.

0:38:47.760 --> 0:38:49.760
<v Speaker 1>Just dude like my brother. And this is the dude

0:38:49.760 --> 0:38:51.839
<v Speaker 1>that we got for all kids. You know, I tell

0:38:51.920 --> 0:38:53.759
<v Speaker 1>you all the time, kids, the biggest red make on

0:38:53.800 --> 0:38:57.479
<v Speaker 1>the planet, like going hunting, like going hunting for deer,

0:38:57.560 --> 0:39:04.000
<v Speaker 1>drive big trucks and everything else. You feel me there

0:39:04.040 --> 0:39:07.440
<v Speaker 1>we go, yeah, my back, it's all good. Yeah, but

0:39:07.520 --> 0:39:13.480
<v Speaker 1>you know you can't um, you can't like everything even

0:39:13.560 --> 0:39:15.600
<v Speaker 1>always is black and white as we'd like to make it.

0:39:15.920 --> 0:39:18.919
<v Speaker 1>See what I'm saying exactly. And you know I learned that,

0:39:19.400 --> 0:39:22.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, with grand Kidding and his wife, with Greg

0:39:22.560 --> 0:39:26.200
<v Speaker 1>and Donna. You know, I didn't know them from for nothing,

0:39:26.480 --> 0:39:30.720
<v Speaker 1>their son. When I went to Australia, man, they treated

0:39:30.760 --> 0:39:33.040
<v Speaker 1>me like I was one of their own. And this

0:39:33.120 --> 0:39:37.160
<v Speaker 1>is the first time I ever interact with white people

0:39:37.239 --> 0:39:39.880
<v Speaker 1>like that. So no, I didn't want to stay in

0:39:39.880 --> 0:39:42.080
<v Speaker 1>the same house with them when I was down there,

0:39:42.560 --> 0:39:47.400
<v Speaker 1>but just being there they made sure I was okay. Uh.

0:39:47.520 --> 0:39:51.520
<v Speaker 1>The conversation. Greg actually gave me one of my uh

0:39:51.960 --> 0:39:56.319
<v Speaker 1>my insolent shots, you know what I'm saying. So they

0:39:56.360 --> 0:40:00.480
<v Speaker 1>looked out for me. My fucking wife didn't even give

0:40:00.640 --> 0:40:04.319
<v Speaker 1>They never gave me a shot. So it's not the

0:40:04.360 --> 0:40:06.600
<v Speaker 1>color of the skin that you look for. And you

0:40:06.680 --> 0:40:10.759
<v Speaker 1>just see the different genuine people gonna be genuine people, bro,

0:40:11.280 --> 0:40:14.480
<v Speaker 1>Just like that dude, he had to see and understand

0:40:14.520 --> 0:40:16.839
<v Speaker 1>that he's in the room with a with a black man,

0:40:17.000 --> 0:40:20.960
<v Speaker 1>So all his inferiors went away because you was a

0:40:20.960 --> 0:40:24.080
<v Speaker 1>good black man. You know what I'm saying. All black

0:40:24.120 --> 0:40:27.800
<v Speaker 1>people are not thugs and violent, you know what I'm saying.

0:40:28.000 --> 0:40:29.879
<v Speaker 1>We're talking about a dude that James, if you saw

0:40:29.920 --> 0:40:32.840
<v Speaker 1>this dude. First of all, Kevin has always been real swollen.

0:40:33.400 --> 0:40:35.799
<v Speaker 1>He wanted the real swollow white dudes. Man. You know,

0:40:35.960 --> 0:40:38.360
<v Speaker 1>always got always lift the weights, always got on like

0:40:38.440 --> 0:40:42.359
<v Speaker 1>some sweats or something. Right, right, we wound up being

0:40:42.400 --> 0:40:44.520
<v Speaker 1>thick of Steves though. Man wound up just being cool

0:40:44.560 --> 0:40:46.560
<v Speaker 1>and me and him couldn't be no more opposite than

0:40:46.600 --> 0:40:49.040
<v Speaker 1>anything else. Should be listening to different music, listening to

0:40:49.080 --> 0:40:53.399
<v Speaker 1>different everything. But he was just today yeah right, yeah

0:40:53.440 --> 0:40:56.279
<v Speaker 1>we're cool. Yeah he back, Um, he lives actually in

0:40:56.440 --> 0:41:00.440
<v Speaker 1>um the Philip Pennsylvanity, the p A and got a

0:41:00.480 --> 0:41:02.520
<v Speaker 1>truck in business. He got three or four trucks got

0:41:02.880 --> 0:41:04.680
<v Speaker 1>It might be good to get him on the show,

0:41:04.680 --> 0:41:08.520
<v Speaker 1>and let's hear how how he felt about it happening

0:41:08.520 --> 0:41:14.280
<v Speaker 1>to interact with you, understand, kid, I gotta see kids

0:41:14.320 --> 0:41:16.640
<v Speaker 1>with that for sure. It would be real interesting. But

0:41:17.080 --> 0:41:18.799
<v Speaker 1>you know when I say all that to say, man,

0:41:18.920 --> 0:41:22.120
<v Speaker 1>like you know, I hear a lot of brothers they

0:41:22.160 --> 0:41:24.800
<v Speaker 1>think with the r. Kelly stuff, it was a racism involved.

0:41:24.800 --> 0:41:27.360
<v Speaker 1>And I said, you know what, maybe to a certain

0:41:27.400 --> 0:41:29.960
<v Speaker 1>degree with the sentencing, I don't know if it has

0:41:30.000 --> 0:41:33.440
<v Speaker 1>anything to do with racism or more versus that people

0:41:33.480 --> 0:41:36.200
<v Speaker 1>are just taking a hard line of ship like that

0:41:36.280 --> 0:41:39.440
<v Speaker 1>right now. As far as mistreating women, you feel what

0:41:39.440 --> 0:41:42.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean, they're taking a hard line on it right now, man,

0:41:44.400 --> 0:41:46.760
<v Speaker 1>And it's an element of race. I'm not so eager

0:41:46.800 --> 0:41:49.120
<v Speaker 1>to say, James, that ain't an element of racism to it.

0:41:49.480 --> 0:41:52.880
<v Speaker 1>Because his sentencing was wrong. They brought in things that

0:41:53.160 --> 0:41:55.040
<v Speaker 1>didn't have nothing to do with his trial. He didn't

0:41:55.080 --> 0:41:58.520
<v Speaker 1>kidnap nobody, He wasn't not there forcing nobody into being

0:41:58.560 --> 0:42:02.040
<v Speaker 1>sexual slaves. He wasn't forced nobody to do nothing. He

0:42:02.200 --> 0:42:05.600
<v Speaker 1>just how mean, how many rich white kids get slapt

0:42:05.640 --> 0:42:10.040
<v Speaker 1>on the rig on the risk for a girl? Holland

0:42:10.160 --> 0:42:13.080
<v Speaker 1>ray Bar he touched me in appropriate leg? How many

0:42:13.120 --> 0:42:16.279
<v Speaker 1>of them get slapped, you know, get slapped on the risk?

0:42:16.920 --> 0:42:19.760
<v Speaker 1>You know, it is a different bro It is a difference.

0:42:20.120 --> 0:42:23.399
<v Speaker 1>It is about the color you know, your skin when

0:42:23.400 --> 0:42:26.719
<v Speaker 1>it comes to certain things. You know what I'm saying.

0:42:26.719 --> 0:42:30.879
<v Speaker 1>I said, I think it played. I definitely think racism.

0:42:31.480 --> 0:42:34.960
<v Speaker 1>We gotta be one hunting with it. Yeah, played has

0:42:35.040 --> 0:42:37.719
<v Speaker 1>it has some elements James of racism because of the

0:42:37.800 --> 0:42:42.560
<v Speaker 1>sense because you know, when they started talking about they

0:42:42.600 --> 0:42:44.640
<v Speaker 1>pretty much him like he was a pimp, like he

0:42:44.719 --> 0:42:47.120
<v Speaker 1>was like not not just a pimp, like he was

0:42:47.160 --> 0:42:51.640
<v Speaker 1>a child smuggler, human trafficking and something. They like he

0:42:51.719 --> 0:42:54.040
<v Speaker 1>was human trafficking. But how do you give him that?

0:42:54.120 --> 0:42:57.319
<v Speaker 1>And and and he's the only motherfucker's indicted. He the

0:42:57.400 --> 0:43:00.080
<v Speaker 1>only motherfucker that's doing time in prison. What about the

0:43:00.200 --> 0:43:03.799
<v Speaker 1>people his entourage? How do he get these girls? How

0:43:03.840 --> 0:43:06.080
<v Speaker 1>do we do this? So they didn't give a funk

0:43:06.120 --> 0:43:10.040
<v Speaker 1>about investigating that type of ship. They just went after him,

0:43:10.120 --> 0:43:11.960
<v Speaker 1>not at all. And some of those parents should have

0:43:11.960 --> 0:43:14.759
<v Speaker 1>went to jail. Two. I think if this happens right now,

0:43:14.840 --> 0:43:18.520
<v Speaker 1>let's say my daughter five years old before and I

0:43:18.600 --> 0:43:21.200
<v Speaker 1>decided to leave her here at the thing. I said, okay,

0:43:21.200 --> 0:43:22.719
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go to the story. Of course, you stay

0:43:22.719 --> 0:43:24.840
<v Speaker 1>here and watch TV. I'll come back to the house

0:43:24.880 --> 0:43:26.800
<v Speaker 1>on fire, and she on que three or four people.

0:43:27.000 --> 0:43:29.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to jail flex that was my responsibility. I

0:43:29.320 --> 0:43:32.799
<v Speaker 1>shouldn't left a five year old. Now leave Linel A

0:43:32.880 --> 0:43:34.840
<v Speaker 1>Linel smarter than will, but you won't go leave Linel

0:43:34.880 --> 0:43:38.839
<v Speaker 1>by itself somewhere from a long time. So what you're

0:43:38.840 --> 0:43:43.759
<v Speaker 1>saying is those parents knew that their child was gone. Yeah,

0:43:44.200 --> 0:43:46.799
<v Speaker 1>parents knew from the beginning that their kid was gone,

0:43:46.800 --> 0:43:52.280
<v Speaker 1>whether they cleaped out and went to uh cowbo with

0:43:52.280 --> 0:43:55.319
<v Speaker 1>with with R Kelly and then once they found out,

0:43:55.440 --> 0:43:58.640
<v Speaker 1>should data called the police and say this grown as

0:43:58.760 --> 0:44:03.399
<v Speaker 1>man's it's working with my daughter bringing out of town

0:44:03.400 --> 0:44:05.759
<v Speaker 1>when he and see my whole thing is this. If

0:44:05.800 --> 0:44:08.040
<v Speaker 1>it would have been me and my daughter, I would

0:44:08.040 --> 0:44:10.880
<v Speaker 1>have been meeting their grass up there caw bow. I

0:44:10.880 --> 0:44:12.839
<v Speaker 1>would have been when she came and tried to creep

0:44:12.880 --> 0:44:14.680
<v Speaker 1>back in that thing. I'd have been waiting downstairs in

0:44:14.680 --> 0:44:17.279
<v Speaker 1>the dark, and I'd admit them outside or whatever soon

0:44:17.280 --> 0:44:18.879
<v Speaker 1>as they nick with the dropper off. He just saw

0:44:18.960 --> 0:44:21.160
<v Speaker 1>my face looking at his window, because I think I

0:44:21.400 --> 0:44:23.120
<v Speaker 1>would have wanted to know what was going on, because,

0:44:23.160 --> 0:44:28.520
<v Speaker 1>first of all, that's my responsibility. If my daughter is fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, James,

0:44:28.760 --> 0:44:31.759
<v Speaker 1>and she sneak out this motherfucker at eleven o'clock at night,

0:44:31.800 --> 0:44:33.560
<v Speaker 1>one o'clock in the morning to o'clock in the morning,

0:44:33.840 --> 0:44:37.880
<v Speaker 1>it's my fault, right, it's my fault. That's my bad

0:44:38.160 --> 0:44:40.800
<v Speaker 1>for not paying attention, because you gotta know your kids,

0:44:40.800 --> 0:44:42.640
<v Speaker 1>and a lot of people listen to nial on who

0:44:42.640 --> 0:44:46.200
<v Speaker 1>their kids are. James. I've never worked rose colored lenses

0:44:46.239 --> 0:44:48.880
<v Speaker 1>when it came to who my keys was. So if

0:44:48.960 --> 0:44:51.560
<v Speaker 1>somebody came and told me your kids de sux, I

0:44:51.719 --> 0:44:53.120
<v Speaker 1>wasn't so quick to say with you. A lot of

0:44:53.200 --> 0:44:55.120
<v Speaker 1>my child would never do that. You don't know what

0:44:55.239 --> 0:44:58.520
<v Speaker 1>your kids capable of. You got a lot of motherfucker's

0:44:58.560 --> 0:45:00.759
<v Speaker 1>out of here talking about their kids pretty, but they're

0:45:00.800 --> 0:45:03.880
<v Speaker 1>ugly and the motherfucker. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I

0:45:04.000 --> 0:45:06.680
<v Speaker 1>talk about my grandkids. I talked about that Mama's I

0:45:06.800 --> 0:45:10.680
<v Speaker 1>talked about everybody. If you're ugly, ugly like me. If

0:45:10.920 --> 0:45:13.200
<v Speaker 1>if you're ugly ugly, don't go out there acting like

0:45:13.320 --> 0:45:16.399
<v Speaker 1>you this and that. But you know, and I think

0:45:16.440 --> 0:45:18.400
<v Speaker 1>I hear you though, yeah, Like if you're looking at

0:45:18.440 --> 0:45:21.320
<v Speaker 1>this R. Kelly stuff. Though a lot of these fingers

0:45:21.400 --> 0:45:23.440
<v Speaker 1>are sitting up here boo who and this their daughters

0:45:23.560 --> 0:45:28.440
<v Speaker 1>was fast as hell? Should they be accountable for that?

0:45:29.120 --> 0:45:31.400
<v Speaker 1>They should be accountable for that because the thing heils

0:45:31.960 --> 0:45:34.759
<v Speaker 1>You allowed it. You allowed it. You took her over

0:45:34.800 --> 0:45:36.359
<v Speaker 1>there with this man. You knew what he was about.

0:45:36.440 --> 0:45:38.200
<v Speaker 1>You could listen to this man's music. First of all,

0:45:38.320 --> 0:45:40.919
<v Speaker 1>change if my daughter was a singer and R. Kelly

0:45:41.040 --> 0:45:42.919
<v Speaker 1>was talking about doing so. Now I'm like, R Kelly,

0:45:42.920 --> 0:45:44.880
<v Speaker 1>you finally do some beats on it or something like that.

0:45:44.960 --> 0:45:46.520
<v Speaker 1>But as far as I've messed with to your stuff

0:45:46.560 --> 0:45:49.120
<v Speaker 1>was a little too sexy. Suggested First, he's a young girl.

0:45:49.600 --> 0:45:53.240
<v Speaker 1>You gotta have common sense. It's a difference. Now Disney

0:45:53.360 --> 0:45:55.640
<v Speaker 1>is hitting me up about my daughter or somebody like

0:45:55.880 --> 0:45:58.480
<v Speaker 1>um to do that type of music that caters towards

0:45:58.520 --> 0:46:00.879
<v Speaker 1>younger people or something like that. That makes more sense.

0:46:00.960 --> 0:46:03.920
<v Speaker 1>But this dude, everything he does sound like it's one

0:46:03.960 --> 0:46:06.440
<v Speaker 1>of his songs. R. Kelly tells you who he is

0:46:06.480 --> 0:46:11.279
<v Speaker 1>on every song. They should be accounting before it and

0:46:11.400 --> 0:46:13.479
<v Speaker 1>see the cold thing about it is, man, people don't

0:46:13.480 --> 0:46:17.600
<v Speaker 1>see it know him. Child abuse don't only come in

0:46:17.680 --> 0:46:20.960
<v Speaker 1>the form of whooping the kid's ass. You know what

0:46:21.040 --> 0:46:24.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. Child abuse is a motherfucker. If you allow

0:46:24.600 --> 0:46:27.719
<v Speaker 1>a twelve thirteen, fifteen, six and young kids to do

0:46:27.840 --> 0:46:31.080
<v Speaker 1>what the punk they want as a parent, that's child abuse.

0:46:31.560 --> 0:46:34.600
<v Speaker 1>Should abuse. It's it's like you got some parents. I

0:46:34.760 --> 0:46:36.720
<v Speaker 1>do some parents James and I was in high school.

0:46:36.719 --> 0:46:39.360
<v Speaker 1>I had some humps. I had certain homies. You go

0:46:39.520 --> 0:46:42.080
<v Speaker 1>over their house. They was allowed to drink beer. There

0:46:42.160 --> 0:46:43.680
<v Speaker 1>was a lot of the smoke weed, there was a

0:46:43.719 --> 0:46:45.400
<v Speaker 1>lot of and they did this stuff all when their

0:46:45.440 --> 0:46:48.480
<v Speaker 1>mother was an house living room smoking the joint fifteen

0:46:48.560 --> 0:46:52.480
<v Speaker 1>sixty years old. Mims might walk by hit it and

0:46:52.600 --> 0:46:54.239
<v Speaker 1>it's like, I'm looking at this ship, like damn, I'm

0:46:54.239 --> 0:46:56.360
<v Speaker 1>this ship is crazy dog y'all. They're like, man, you

0:46:56.400 --> 0:46:59.640
<v Speaker 1>want to know I'm cool? Well know him. That's why

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<v Speaker 1>you know. I wouldn't even sit down and and and

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<v Speaker 1>get drunk with my kids. My sons, my daughter. You know,

0:47:08.239 --> 0:47:11.440
<v Speaker 1>you see these these little cats hanging next to pops

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<v Speaker 1>and and Mom's smoking weed together. That's unheard of. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a kid, You're not a parent no more, you're

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<v Speaker 1>a friend. You wanted the homies, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know it's just how we're pairing. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I ain't gonna take nothing from nobody because I made

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of mistakes as a as a young father,

0:47:33.880 --> 0:47:38.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, going to pre but I can honestly say

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<v Speaker 1>I never did any type of sucking drugs with my kids.

0:47:43.000 --> 0:47:47.279
<v Speaker 1>I didn't allow my boys to sagging their pants. I

0:47:47.360 --> 0:47:50.440
<v Speaker 1>didn't allow my boys to have in rings. Right now

0:47:50.560 --> 0:47:53.880
<v Speaker 1>to day now one of my sons ears appears northern

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<v Speaker 1>is mine. So it's just certain things I did. It

0:47:58.640 --> 0:48:01.320
<v Speaker 1>wasn't about the money factor for me and my kids.

0:48:01.480 --> 0:48:06.400
<v Speaker 1>My kids was good. But being a parent, you're not

0:48:06.520 --> 0:48:09.000
<v Speaker 1>gonna go down the road I went down. You're not

0:48:09.120 --> 0:48:11.560
<v Speaker 1>gonna if I caught you with Japans hanging off your

0:48:11.600 --> 0:48:15.960
<v Speaker 1>grass were bee from the pipe. So there's no excuses

0:48:16.400 --> 0:48:19.359
<v Speaker 1>for us with children. And I don't give a funk

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<v Speaker 1>what type of man you are. I don't give a funk.

0:48:21.320 --> 0:48:24.160
<v Speaker 1>What type of woman you are? You know, it's natural

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<v Speaker 1>instances that that helps you do the right thing when

0:48:29.560 --> 0:48:34.960
<v Speaker 1>it comes to being a parent, and everybody ignores that.

0:48:35.880 --> 0:48:41.120
<v Speaker 1>Most people ignored, such as myself. But I understood. I understood.

0:48:41.120 --> 0:48:43.960
<v Speaker 1>I ain't gonna say me because I understood. My sons

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<v Speaker 1>ain't like that. My right down to day I got.

0:48:47.440 --> 0:48:51.120
<v Speaker 1>I got my son out there in Texas doing real good.

0:48:51.760 --> 0:48:56.239
<v Speaker 1>M My oldest son is raised in. His daughter. She's

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen and he's been having her since day one, straight

0:48:59.560 --> 0:49:04.120
<v Speaker 1>out to her school. He's doing good. He's been working

0:49:04.160 --> 0:49:08.560
<v Speaker 1>as a pharmacy tech for him. My son is thirty

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<v Speaker 1>seven and he's been working in since he was nineteen. Thing,

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<v Speaker 1>yeah he he when when you know, he was going

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<v Speaker 1>back to school at this daughter came. But he found

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<v Speaker 1>out that being a single parent with a baby, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a motherfucker what he is man, especially for a dude. Man,

0:49:28.800 --> 0:49:31.239
<v Speaker 1>it changed. It's hard to raise kids, man. And you

0:49:31.280 --> 0:49:32.960
<v Speaker 1>ain't got to tell me. I've been trying to throw

0:49:33.080 --> 0:49:35.880
<v Speaker 1>Nino at the house, but for over three and a

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<v Speaker 1>half years. I mean, you have to stop everything. And

0:49:39.200 --> 0:49:42.399
<v Speaker 1>that's what these young women don't understand. Once you become

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<v Speaker 1>a parent. That means you're a parent. You have to

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<v Speaker 1>protect and provide for this child. It ain't for grandmama

0:49:48.640 --> 0:49:51.680
<v Speaker 1>and granddaddy to do. You had to go. You have

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<v Speaker 1>to do it. There was certain choices I had to make, James,

0:49:54.840 --> 0:49:56.880
<v Speaker 1>when I had my son, it was certain choices I

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<v Speaker 1>had to make, and I said, you know what, I'm

0:49:58.400 --> 0:50:00.800
<v Speaker 1>gonna stay Tempto was down to be the man and

0:50:00.960 --> 0:50:03.080
<v Speaker 1>my son's life that he deserves. It. Hedn't asked to

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<v Speaker 1>be here, right, it ain't they funk? Yeah, you know,

0:50:06.080 --> 0:50:07.520
<v Speaker 1>he didn't ask to be here. So hell yeah. It

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<v Speaker 1>was a lot of sacrifices of me and my wife

0:50:09.239 --> 0:50:11.200
<v Speaker 1>both had to make a lot of second plice. The

0:50:11.239 --> 0:50:13.799
<v Speaker 1>first thing was us getting married. You know what I'm saying.

0:50:13.800 --> 0:50:15.839
<v Speaker 1>I said, man, I won't stop the roll a certain way.

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<v Speaker 1>So we was married, right, you know, so we married.

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<v Speaker 1>I held it down. It's been a long time and

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<v Speaker 1>I ain't go to the pen say it's been all

0:50:23.160 --> 0:50:25.120
<v Speaker 1>peaks and cream dough. But it's been pretty good. It's

0:50:25.160 --> 0:50:28.960
<v Speaker 1>been more good than bad, and that's what matters. Been

0:50:29.040 --> 0:50:32.680
<v Speaker 1>more good than that. Man. Well, I think this one

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<v Speaker 1>right here, man, this one for the books, right here exams. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>it's good, it's good. And then I'm glad that that

0:50:38.760 --> 0:50:41.960
<v Speaker 1>we're able to voice ote opinion on certain things like this,

0:50:42.120 --> 0:50:46.120
<v Speaker 1>because everybody got their own perception of, oh yeah, it's

0:50:46.160 --> 0:50:51.360
<v Speaker 1>good for Kelly, not just for Kelly, everybody. Other people

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<v Speaker 1>should have been accountable for what the fun is going on,

0:50:55.800 --> 0:50:58.120
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. And you know, it's just

0:50:58.239 --> 0:51:00.160
<v Speaker 1>sucked up that some of us just get the raw

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<v Speaker 1>handled and ship and it is what it is, bro,

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<v Speaker 1>it is what it is.