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Speaker 1: We like to welcome everyone to another episode Against the

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Speaker 1: Chronicles podcast and I'm with my dog today, Big Jag James.

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Speaker 1: We was having a discussion yesterday about R. Kelly, and

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Speaker 1: I kind of wanted to um teague on with that

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Speaker 1: because me and you read on some things and disagree

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Speaker 1: on some things. He's presently serving time right now. How

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Speaker 1: many years of aget thirty? So he got thirty years,

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Speaker 1: right man, It's been people that murdered people have got

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Speaker 1: less time, and that people that got fifteen years is

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Speaker 1: people that't got awfrom murder. But the main thing, I

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Speaker 1: mean two different scenarios. You know, he got convicted of

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Speaker 1: uh trafficking, you know what I'm saying. How these people

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Speaker 1: went with him willingly and came home. You know, these

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Speaker 1: females lived with him, you know what I'm saying. And

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Speaker 1: it's fucked up because you know, I've always heard people say,

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Speaker 1: when you're taking care of motherfucker, they're good. When you

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Speaker 1: stopped taking care of motherfucker, everything go back. And that's

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Speaker 1: what happened with this dude in this case. You know

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Speaker 1: why the parents ain't being convicted of child abuse because

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Speaker 1: ain't no where in the world. My daughter is gonna

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Speaker 1: go and be going two weeks at a time, a

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Speaker 1: week at a time at sixteen and seventeen years old,

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Speaker 1: and I don't know where she at. So you know,

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Speaker 1: I think they should be held accountable for their position.

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Speaker 1: They rolled, they play in this whole situation, but they're not,

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So you know, I just

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Speaker 1: think the lords fucked up when it comes to that

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Speaker 1: type of situation. Yeah, it's wrong, and we're not condoning

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Speaker 1: in any way, shape or form his actions, but you

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Speaker 1: gotta call a state of state. Sometimes it's like, you know,

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Speaker 1: you see these parents, they were well aware of what

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Speaker 1: was going on with their daughters and it was all good,

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Speaker 1: like you said, when the bread was rolling, but then

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Speaker 1: when the money stopped going through issue, But I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know, even you know the way he conducted else,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you can't say he's right. It's sucking wrong

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Speaker 1: if you know, uh, you you thirty five and you're

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Speaker 1: working with a seventeen year old, you know that hands off.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, he's guilty of that ship, Yeah he's guilty,

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Speaker 1: and yeah he should be serving time. But I think

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Speaker 1: you know the trim they threw him, the trafficking thing

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Speaker 1: you know, they're almost treating like he was a pimp,

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Speaker 1: like he was out there Pip and the family, Right,

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Speaker 1: Pimps don't even get that much time. Doug. Yeah, it

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Speaker 1: just seems real personal with me. It just seemed like

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Speaker 1: it was real first though to me, because you got

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Speaker 1: a guy man, and you just imagine his mind stadiums

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Speaker 1: Now he's used to being out there doing this thing,

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Speaker 1: making music, traveling, going to go do shows and stuff.

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Speaker 1: Now he's sitting the sale. Well, to me, our past,

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Speaker 1: what we do today is gonna catch up with us, bro,

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Speaker 1: and he's not paying attention to that. You're not subject

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Speaker 1: uh to to different ship because you're a sucking superstar

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Speaker 1: because people see you, you know, because you can see

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Speaker 1: you're not You're not what's going to that? So, I mean,

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Speaker 1: what he did and what he was doing, man, he

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Speaker 1: should that. He had a whole lot of time to

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Speaker 1: think and reflect on how you getting down, you know,

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Speaker 1: being a rich motherfucker, you know what I'm saying. So,

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Speaker 1: you know, females was so easy for this man because

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Speaker 1: everybody wanted to R Kelly be around the r Kelly.

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Speaker 1: They everybody, all these females want to be around that superstar,

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So whatever his sexual appetite was,

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Speaker 1: it could have been with a woman of age. You

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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. It's a lot of badass women

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Speaker 1: his age. You don't have to pick and choose a

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Speaker 1: child to me a child. So do I say he's

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Speaker 1: guilty of I say that yes, because I wouldn't do it.

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Speaker 1: I don't need no female five and I'm fifty something.

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Speaker 1: I don't need that. I don't know. Definitely, he's definitely

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Speaker 1: guilty and he's where he should be. My whole thing

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Speaker 1: was just a think with Lord James. We gotta be

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Speaker 1: real careful because the punishment has to fit the crime. Now,

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Speaker 1: if they gave him, if they gave him, you know,

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Speaker 1: two to five years, said okay, he's gonna serve his thing.

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Speaker 1: And one thing we gotta remember R Kelly. You know,

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Speaker 1: R Kelly can't read past the fourth grade left, so

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Speaker 1: his level of understanding with certain things, it's kind of different.

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Speaker 1: You understand what I mean. It ain't listen and I'm

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Speaker 1: not making an excuse for him, but I think with him,

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Speaker 1: he liked dealing with the kids, with the younger girls,

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Speaker 1: because he was on the same wave Lincoln as them.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he could have handled conversation with a

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Speaker 1: can sing sexual healing, and the way he do it

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Speaker 1: he is mentality is well above talking to a woman

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Speaker 1: he don't can't write music. He doing it, okay. So

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Speaker 1: just because you don't read, Floyd Mayweather is a fucking millionaire.

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Speaker 1: He couldn't read at the beginning. I don't know where

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Speaker 1: his level at now, but he couldn't read me. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna speak for me. I didn't get past the tenth

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Speaker 1: month in grade. I court school in the ninth in

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Speaker 1: the middle of the night. But my comprehension level is

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Speaker 1: is well above a dummy, well abub a dummy. So

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Speaker 1: I self taught myself to be better when it comes

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Speaker 1: sit in and tell me that dude didn't understand. I

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Speaker 1: know the difference between a seventeen, eighteen or thirty five

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Speaker 1: year one. He definitely did. And I'm not making excuses

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Speaker 1: from and I will be the first who say this.

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Speaker 1: Some of the most breeding people that I know have

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Speaker 1: not made it past high school. I know. I know too,

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Speaker 1: billionaires that hadn't graduated high school. And then we can't

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Speaker 1: blame it on his his high school school education. And

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Speaker 1: they ain't got nothing to do with that. R Kelly

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Speaker 1: is a is a man, A talented motherfucker. He can

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Speaker 1: talk and he talked well, so he knows the difference

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Speaker 1: and I understand that, I get it. But the only thing, yeah,

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Speaker 1: he sucked up, but he is not the only person

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Speaker 1: in this situation that sucked up. Oh not at all,

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Speaker 1: not at all. And there were other people, you know,

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Speaker 1: I know R Kelly. He didn't mention nobody else in

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Speaker 1: the thing. I think they were after him on purpose, James.

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Speaker 1: I think he pissed somebody off and it was on

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Speaker 1: him possibility, possibility. I think he pissed somebody off and

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Speaker 1: he was on his ass man, because you gotta remember

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Speaker 1: this dude is like R. Kelly is in his fifties,

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Speaker 1: not right, Yeah, in his fifties, he'd be eighty year old.

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Speaker 1: Eighty years old, so they pretty much gave him life.

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Speaker 1: He has life, and I don't know if he's gonna

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Speaker 1: get the roll without how does that work? He might

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Speaker 1: get action if I'm quite sure. He appealonated the time,

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Speaker 1: so they might take some time off or whatever. I

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Speaker 1: ain't never, I ain't there with the system man goddamned

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Speaker 1: since but and the laws that's changed, so he might

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Speaker 1: majority of that time. So as it stands now, he's

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Speaker 1: looking to be seventies some years old when he come home. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and again I I gotta say this change because people

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Speaker 1: haven't had it nowadays. Is not paying attention to stuff.

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Speaker 1: We are not in any way, shape or form, controning

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Speaker 1: this man's actions, not at all. If we think he's dead,

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Speaker 1: that's wrong and he should be where he's at, well

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Speaker 1: he should. I mean, JA Prince said this when you

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Speaker 1: gotta say it a different way now him. We all

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Speaker 1: live with that. And you know it's not just R.

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Speaker 1: Kelly out here that lived that way. It's not just R. Kelly,

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Speaker 1: So you know, but don't come after R Kelly after

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Speaker 1: Bill Cosby, don't come after him after fifty years and

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Speaker 1: just dog him out because of a certain situation. Are

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Speaker 1: are he was getting too too too big? You know

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So you know, we gotta watch ourselves.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. When we get money, it

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Speaker 1: becomes a problem for us for entertainers. Look what's happening

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Speaker 1: how to to control ourselves and live right, you know

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But you know it's just the way

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Speaker 1: you do ship now with R. Kelly, Okay, he's in jail.

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Speaker 1: But us as parents, how did our kids get in

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Speaker 1: one thing you have to know about the music business, James,

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Speaker 1: talking about from the studio sessions to everything. It was

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Speaker 1: somebody's daughter as the opportunity to probably mess with R.

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Speaker 1: Exactly what I'm saying, bro, is that they should be

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Speaker 1: a boy working with this certain guy. But you still

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Speaker 1: right of that they was trying to get a record deal,

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Speaker 1: none of this can happen. They shouldn't be left alone

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Speaker 1: with r. Kelly. This is a grown ass man, this

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Speaker 1: You do. You have to. I've never seen one of

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Speaker 1: the games. I never played, James. Thank God, all of

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Speaker 1: of those guys to go for other people's house suspending night.

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Speaker 1: My whole thing was what you got to go spend

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Speaker 1: too much stuff that can happen. What Like I said,

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Speaker 1: kind of work wondering about you. So I'm walking behind

424
00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:38,320
Speaker 1: these m this family, right, they got two kids with him,

425
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:41,479
Speaker 1: one holding the baby, and they're walking and they were

426
00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:44,240
Speaker 1: walking so damn fast, James, like, they're trying to get

427
00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:45,760
Speaker 1: away from me. Then they run to the door in

428
00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:47,520
Speaker 1: the room and they get that. They fight, They mess

429
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:48,760
Speaker 1: up with a little card to get the room, and

430
00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:50,840
Speaker 1: they heard getting their slamming the door, and I'm like, damn,

431
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:58,320
Speaker 1: that's that's been happening. And happened to me in my

432
00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:01,680
Speaker 1: early days. You know, you're standing in the market or

433
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:05,080
Speaker 1: you're standing in the bank and a motherfucker clinched their

434
00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:09,280
Speaker 1: purse or walk past their car and then you walk

435
00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:11,120
Speaker 1: past them and they turn around and go right back

436
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:15,600
Speaker 1: to their car. They just they just scared of black people. Yeah,

437
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,679
Speaker 1: like we just do it. Like like me all by myself.

438
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:20,960
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna check you, your husband, all your kids.

439
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:23,320
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna grab y'all and just do whatever I

440
00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:25,640
Speaker 1: want to do. Y'all. It's like it's it's crazy. We've

441
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:27,480
Speaker 1: been going to that forever and they ain't gonna stop

442
00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:29,639
Speaker 1: no time soon. And I'm gonna tell you what's not

443
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:34,160
Speaker 1: making it no better? James, you know, you look at r. Kelly,

444
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,840
Speaker 1: You look at that guy Bill calls me me, and

445
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:40,440
Speaker 1: you both know people personally that they have done things

446
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:43,840
Speaker 1: they shouldn't be doing right that may not necessarily be

447
00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,640
Speaker 1: against the law per se, but like, man, that girl, man,

448
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:48,440
Speaker 1: you got a daughter, her age. Man, come on, you

449
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 1: got an exercise better judgment and that Yeah, he know better.

450
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:54,800
Speaker 1: That's what I said earlier. He know better. So I

451
00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:56,800
Speaker 1: wouldn't give a funk if he couldn't read it right,

452
00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:01,480
Speaker 1: He no better if if if you know she's sixteen.

453
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,280
Speaker 1: But the cold thing about that is some of these

454
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:07,720
Speaker 1: girls don't look sixteen and seventeen. Some of these girls

455
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 1: are they sixteen seventeen? But saying fast, last girls out here? Yeah,

456
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 1: so after the girls they lying at this point, he

457
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:21,160
Speaker 1: didn't hit already, so it's too late. So I don't

458
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 1: even funk. I old you is now I'm man, I'm

459
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:28,320
Speaker 1: enjoying myself. But the ship that he did, I mean,

460
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 1: who ain't freaking I like the whoop a motherfucker asked

461
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:36,440
Speaker 1: and put body que pins and ship on the nipples

462
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:41,480
Speaker 1: and do whatever you know. But do you understand what's

463
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:44,119
Speaker 1: going on? She okay, that's cool. It six things, But

464
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:46,479
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. That's a difference you with another

465
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:49,879
Speaker 1: consenting a dot. And if y'all decide to go in

466
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,280
Speaker 1: there and poke each other's eyeballs out, that's y'all. Rights

467
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:55,879
Speaker 1: is grown as a dolts, don't nobody somebody, nobody should

468
00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,680
Speaker 1: have anything to say. But when a girl is that young,

469
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:00,840
Speaker 1: and this is what I truly know, James, and this

470
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 1: is what you know too. When you're young, you can't process,

471
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:08,439
Speaker 1: you process things a certain way. It's not necessarily the

472
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:11,720
Speaker 1: best thing for you. See there you go again. These

473
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:15,920
Speaker 1: kids be a conscious. These kids get and get them

474
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:19,080
Speaker 1: v I P. Passes and looking sexy and older than

475
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 1: what they are and then want to go and meet

476
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 1: or they go to the rooms and standing by once

477
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 1: they find out where your rooms and ship that they there.

478
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:31,880
Speaker 1: So that man and walked into that that that that hotel,

479
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,959
Speaker 1: and uh, you have a whole bunch of boopies right

480
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 1: there he got he can pick and choose. Let me

481
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:43,240
Speaker 1: get them through. So he got somebody grabbing motherfucker's. He

482
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 1: got somebody grabbing motherfucker's out the audience. He got somebody

483
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:51,959
Speaker 1: grabbing motherfucker's that behind that line. Oh for sure, C James,

484
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 1: I'm not seeing them. These people are innocent. I'm not

485
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 1: saying it at all. But what I am saying is

486
00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,760
Speaker 1: you ask any If you ask any thirty year old

487
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 1: one in the day, they might have a sorry ass,

488
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,159
Speaker 1: or might have had a relationship that maybe wasn't the

489
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,399
Speaker 1: best thing. May have been an older cat that was

490
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 1: married at something else. Now she got a kid and

491
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:12,159
Speaker 1: kind of just getting hit off to the side. If

492
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 1: you asked her now at thirty if she would do

493
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,160
Speaker 1: the same thing that she did when she was seventeen eighteen,

494
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,360
Speaker 1: them gonna tell you I would do things way different.

495
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 1: They're actually baring their kids and stuff. So you know,

496
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:25,879
Speaker 1: it's one of those things, man, that where you do

497
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 1: mature as you get older, because I know, I'm definitely

498
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,119
Speaker 1: not the same man at fifty two that I was

499
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:34,439
Speaker 1: at twenty two. Totally different people. And I know for

500
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 1: a fact that you're not the same person that you

501
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,440
Speaker 1: are now then you were when you're nineteen and twenty.

502
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:41,440
Speaker 1: It's just different. You grow and you evolved, you know

503
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,120
Speaker 1: what I mean, You crossess things differently. So I think

504
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,200
Speaker 1: with these girls with kids, I noticed they live in

505
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 1: the moment. Well, I was like that, you were like

506
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 1: that because we feel like we're gonna live forever. We

507
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:53,360
Speaker 1: don't really think about stuff, see what I mean. It's

508
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 1: a whole lot of stuff I wish I could go

509
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 1: back and change. Well, these young girls, they like that

510
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:01,480
Speaker 1: entertainment ship they liked these same years. They like them

511
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 1: singers that you know, the Ushers and and all that

512
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 1: ship genuine and all of the other ship. They like

513
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 1: that ship. They love entertainment. They love to see that's

514
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:15,440
Speaker 1: their man of today, you know what I'm saying. So, yeah,

515
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:19,399
Speaker 1: they are vulnerable because that's what they like, you know

516
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And and when you get a man

517
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 1: that that's into that type of ship, that has that mindset,

518
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,639
Speaker 1: I'd rather fun with a younger female than an older

519
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:34,639
Speaker 1: female because I can tame her or my conversation is

520
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 1: more stronger to her than a woman of age. You know,

521
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 1: a woman of age ain't been a biting into that

522
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 1: dumb ships say, yeah, older woman is not going for

523
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 1: certain stuff, dude, especially when they got their stuff together.

524
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 1: They don't give a celebrity right. They will tell you, no,

525
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 1: we're not doing that. This is the way this go.

526
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 1: They gonna dictate the terms of how things are go

527
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 1: to go. What I'm saying, You see what I'm saying.

528
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 1: And if the major thing is still man, I'm gonna

529
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 1: tell you what's happening to James. A lot of these

530
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 1: um guys when they talk to these girls or whatever,

531
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 1: it's a thing that what you say, they may know

532
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 1: in the back of their mind to look at us,

533
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 1: say she's look a little too younger for damn. She

534
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 1: finds hell, you know, she finds itself. So some people

535
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 1: sure to choose to ignore the obvious, right, You see

536
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Some people play games against the obvious.

537
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 1: It's like, dude, you look at her. I don't care

538
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 1: how she looked. She looked like a baby. She looked

539
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 1: like jail Baker. To me, we will be honest, man.

540
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 1: Some some other fuckers just don't care, just don't care.

541
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 1: But are they predators? Hell yeah, anytime a man up

542
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 1: with a child, he's in his thirties and forties and

543
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 1: fifty and you you want a tuny two year old woman,

544
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 1: That tuny two year old woman ain't gonna make you

545
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 1: no younger. You're still a old motherfucker. You're still a

546
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 1: sucking sugar daddy. But you got young women out there

547
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 1: looking for that older dude. They want to be taking

548
00:29:56,440 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 1: care of. They want the money. But you, you solicit

549
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 1: your body for dumb for you know another thing that

550
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 1: these young girls not thinking when they're messing with these entertainments.

551
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say no James names James, but it

552
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 1: is two big R and B stars right now. They've

553
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:18,959
Speaker 1: got herpes. It's a whole bunch of them running from

554
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,240
Speaker 1: wrong with herpes. There's a punch that I'm running around

555
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 1: with HIV and whatever else. So you have to be

556
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 1: really really careful because especially with the fact um with

557
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 1: everything is able to be managed now because of medicine, right,

558
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 1: So you know whereas thirty years ago if you had herpes,

559
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 1: it was almost like, man, my life is over with

560
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 1: Now people going on with their life and they take

561
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 1: them feels and they're not giving the damn about springing

562
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,040
Speaker 1: to nobody else because they have the resources to take

563
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 1: care of theirselves. But they had to go offenstly with

564
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 1: somebody raw and give them a disease. And I'm talking

565
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 1: about these girls as young ain't even live their life yet,

566
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 1: and these people who don't give a damn. So I

567
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 1: always told my kids without what I told my kids

568
00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 1: was just coming up because one thing is about the James.

569
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 1: I don't care how good of a parent you think

570
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 1: you are. You're not gonna stop your kids who want

571
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 1: to go do their thing. If they want to go do,

572
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 1: if they got to make it up in their mind,

573
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:09,479
Speaker 1: they're gonna find a way, just like we found a way.

574
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 1: They go sneak off and trail off and do stuff.

575
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 1: They go find a way to go do it, so

576
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 1: you have to execate them and be real what I am.

577
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 1: I told all my kids. I said, it is very real,

578
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 1: herpes is very real. It's all kinds of other stuff

579
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 1: you can get to that people don't talk about with

580
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 1: our kids today. They choose not to listen to what

581
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 1: the parent is saying because even if they get it

582
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 1: from somebody else, they might believe it. But trying to

583
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 1: school and groom like my daughter, you know, telling her

584
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 1: what type of nigga, nothing ever with at that time

585
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:43,719
Speaker 1: when I had her. You don't want to do like

586
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 1: your daddy. You don't want no dude like your uncle,

587
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 1: timity your uncle out. This is what I don't want

588
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 1: you to do. Any man that put his hands on you,

589
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 1: any man that called you out of your name, any

590
00:31:56,200 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 1: man that just disrespects you, walk away. Don't deal with

591
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 1: that situation for a year, two years, and then say

592
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 1: I don't. I can't get out of this bullshit. You

593
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 1: have a choice, and it shouldn't take you six months

594
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 1: to find out what type of person you have or

595
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 1: what you're dealing with. So you know, even though you

596
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 1: know I explained all this, you know, our kids tend

597
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 1: to go with the opposite because they have yet to

598
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 1: live that life. They don't understand it. Even if they

599
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 1: hear they don't want to hear that from their parents,

600
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 1: so they think they know everything or I know what

601
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 1: to do with that. Every were those Thames for a minute,

602
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 1: that was me. Somebody probably hear my fault my dad.

603
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 1: So yeah, you know, I think no matter what we

604
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 1: say to our kids, our kids gonna feel that they're

605
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 1: old enough to make their own decisions. And and we're

606
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 1: not in fault for that. You know, our kids go

607
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 1: out and think they're growing and do doing what they're

608
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 1: doing now. They want to get high and drink because

609
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 1: their friends doing it. And I tried to show my

610
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 1: daughter different, but like I said a minute ago, she

611
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 1: chose to do what she thought or what she think

612
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 1: is right. And sometimes you know what, and sometimes it's crazy,

613
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 1: it sounds says. Sometimes that's the best list of the

614
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 1: life form. When they go here and do what they

615
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 1: want to and don't turn out right, then they are

616
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 1: able to process and say, you know what, moms is

617
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 1: right about that possible telling me the truth. But sometimes

618
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:32,959
Speaker 1: you don't get you don't get to come back from

619
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 1: your mistakes. Sometimes right, it's too late. It's too late,

620
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:39,479
Speaker 1: you know one thing about it. You know, when I

621
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 1: was in Vegas, man, I've seen these young girls, you know,

622
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 1: coming into the casinos, you know, seventeen, you know eighteen,

623
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 1: They walk in the strip, they runaways. So everything every

624
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 1: nigga out there, every dude out there, excuse me with nigga,

625
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 1: but every guy out there that was so calling themself

626
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 1: being pimps, there was like a they are They knew

627
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 1: who to get, they just by how they and their

628
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:08,360
Speaker 1: little girls was dressed. So you have a lot of

629
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 1: kids on the strip, a lot of these young women

630
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 1: out there being prostituted. Bro, you know what I'm saying,

631
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 1: because they don't want to buy by nor listen to

632
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 1: what mama, daddy gotta say that's out there right now exactly,

633
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,239
Speaker 1: So they run away from home because they want to

634
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 1: be grown. But then you got some of them out

635
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:32,319
Speaker 1: there that I know, um, which they never took that right,

636
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:37,720
Speaker 1: A whole bunch of saying. You know what, man, life

637
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,880
Speaker 1: is all about choices. It's all about the choices that

638
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 1: we make, um. And I noticed what that's especially as

639
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 1: black people, we have a tendency to flame mark choices

640
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 1: on somebody else right, choices that we make, you know, Like, um,

641
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,279
Speaker 1: if I go out now and decide to go get me.

642
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 1: Um if I decide right now to Gordon buy me

643
00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 1: anouncer cocaine and I'm gonna flip this in front of

644
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,320
Speaker 1: make some money and I get caught in the way back,

645
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 1: I can't be mad at nobody else but me. I

646
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 1: can't be mad at to do the solda to me.

647
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 1: I can't be mad at the homeboy that might have suggested,

648
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:12,880
Speaker 1: Hey man, I got a quick way we can come up. No,

649
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 1: because I made the choice trail off and do what

650
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 1: I do. You know what I'm saying. So we can't

651
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 1: blame nobody else but ourselves. And I always tell my kids,

652
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 1: man is hold yourself accountable because you can't a lot

653
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 1: of yourself. You can sit up here in a lot

654
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 1: of me and your mama all day. But don't you

655
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 1: think that. Don't you think what you're saying right there.

656
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,800
Speaker 1: That's not just with black people. That's what all people

657
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,319
Speaker 1: of coloring. Oh, it's with people of color period. It's

658
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 1: it's what people in general. People have a tendency to

659
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 1: blame other people for their problems. Like if you asked

660
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:47,280
Speaker 1: the average white guy on why he doesn't like black people.

661
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 1: They will come with some way out stuff that's like

662
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 1: you like that, But how does that How is that

663
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 1: applicable to the whole black race? You feel what I'm saying.

664
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,760
Speaker 1: But they may have done something out of the pocket before.

665
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:00,080
Speaker 1: They may have lost the girlfriend to a black do

666
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 1: before and they hold that they here, Or they might

667
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:04,759
Speaker 1: have got the ask by one black person before, but

668
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 1: they might have done something to deserve that ass whooping

669
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 1: and they're not looking at well, you know what, I

670
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 1: was out the way and it didn't have nothing to

671
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,319
Speaker 1: do with him being black, for me being white. I

672
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 1: just got my ask for from doing some stupid ship

673
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 1: one day. Well, you know, I look at it like this, bro.

674
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 1: Half of the white kids today, even that's fifty and

675
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 1: in fifties, they don't know nothing about racism. They talked,

676
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 1: They was taught that ship just like us. We I mean,

677
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 1: why do we hate some of us hate white people

678
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 1: because of what they've done to us. I mean, we

679
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 1: don't live that history. It's our history. You just gotta

680
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 1: be careful on how you moving maneuver around their asses. Yeah,

681
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna tell you this, James, I'm gonna tell

682
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 1: you a story real quick, man. When I first came

683
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 1: out here from a while, You know, I came out

684
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:50,319
Speaker 1: here from a while. They have put us in these

685
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 1: apartments to where we had. It was a coolst set up.

686
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 1: It was like a two bed room apartment to cats

687
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 1: steak room. Right. You know, we college students, right, uh,

688
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,359
Speaker 1: you know, had a walk strings riding, a nice little kitchen.

689
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 1: There was a nice little partner. Right. So when they

690
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 1: put this in there, and the coach did this on purpose,

691
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 1: I asked him later on, he said, I did it

692
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 1: on purpose. So you gotta need to know each other.

693
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:11,840
Speaker 1: We had two cats in there. It was some cats

694
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 1: in there from Florida, from Miami, Florida. All the brothers

695
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,879
Speaker 1: hung on one side of the department. The white cat

696
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:21,399
Speaker 1: sung on another side. Right. So, come to find out,

697
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:23,799
Speaker 1: the catch from Colorado had never been around the black

698
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 1: people before. You know, my guys Miami and me, we

699
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 1: always kind of just stayed to our own. He was

700
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:33,320
Speaker 1: from a lot of racism Florida, a lot of racists,

701
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 1: hired a lot of racisms. So we kind of had

702
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 1: the tendency to deal with our own, right. So what

703
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 1: he did was he made us all switched different badrooms.

704
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:46,320
Speaker 1: He made black. You gotta stay with him so for

705
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:49,240
Speaker 1: a room, Nate, Yeah, and I'm gonna tell you wound

706
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 1: up being one of my best friends. And he was

707
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 1: a person whose dad was pregnant. He had grew up

708
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:55,720
Speaker 1: being you know, like being around a lot of racism.

709
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 1: But his mama was very different. Marlene O'Connor, one of

710
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,319
Speaker 1: the greatest white women I don't never met in my life,

711
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 1: treated me like a son. She had moved out to

712
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:06,359
Speaker 1: California to take care of him. Is like second year, right,

713
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 1: something I thought was crazy. I was like, damn, his

714
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,359
Speaker 1: mama really loved him. You know, she can't way out

715
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 1: here just to stay you know where he was at,

716
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 1: left job and everything came. I ain't got an a

717
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:18,400
Speaker 1: partner right when she came out. Dude, he kind of

718
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 1: took me with him. So I was staying with them.

719
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 1: I lived a whole different life, all that struggling I

720
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,399
Speaker 1: was doing their first Dude. They changed, and I would

721
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 1: never get this woman a dime. She did at the

722
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:30,840
Speaker 1: kindness of the art, steal one for people. I know.

723
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 1: So you come from a situation of where you can't

724
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 1: judge everybody. Now her husband they had divorced by them,

725
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 1: but he was a very racist man. I didn't like

726
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 1: black people. So that's how kid was raised a little

727
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 1: bit of until he met me and found out like, well, man,

728
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 1: all the stuff my pops told me ain't really true.

729
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:49,760
Speaker 1: Just dude like my brother. And this is the dude

730
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:51,839
Speaker 1: that we got for all kids. You know, I tell

731
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 1: you all the time, kids, the biggest red make on

732
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:57,479
Speaker 1: the planet, like going hunting, like going hunting for deer,

733
00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 1: drive big trucks and everything else. You feel me there

734
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 1: we go, yeah, my back, it's all good. Yeah, but

735
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 1: you know you can't um, you can't like everything even

736
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 1: always is black and white as we'd like to make it.

737
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,919
Speaker 1: See what I'm saying exactly. And you know I learned that,

738
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 1: you know, with grand Kidding and his wife, with Greg

739
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 1: and Donna. You know, I didn't know them from for nothing,

740
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:30,720
Speaker 1: their son. When I went to Australia, man, they treated

741
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 1: me like I was one of their own. And this

742
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 1: is the first time I ever interact with white people

743
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 1: like that. So no, I didn't want to stay in

744
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 1: the same house with them when I was down there,

745
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:47,400
Speaker 1: but just being there they made sure I was okay. Uh.

746
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 1: The conversation. Greg actually gave me one of my uh

747
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:56,319
Speaker 1: my insolent shots, you know what I'm saying. So they

748
00:39:56,360 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 1: looked out for me. My fucking wife didn't even give

749
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 1: They never gave me a shot. So it's not the

750
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 1: color of the skin that you look for. And you

751
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 1: just see the different genuine people gonna be genuine people, bro,

752
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 1: Just like that dude, he had to see and understand

753
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:16,839
Speaker 1: that he's in the room with a with a black man,

754
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 1: So all his inferiors went away because you was a

755
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 1: good black man. You know what I'm saying. All black

756
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:27,800
Speaker 1: people are not thugs and violent, you know what I'm saying.

757
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:29,879
Speaker 1: We're talking about a dude that James, if you saw

758
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,840
Speaker 1: this dude. First of all, Kevin has always been real swollen.

759
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:35,799
Speaker 1: He wanted the real swollow white dudes. Man. You know,

760
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:38,360
Speaker 1: always got always lift the weights, always got on like

761
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:42,359
Speaker 1: some sweats or something. Right, right, we wound up being

762
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 1: thick of Steves though. Man wound up just being cool

763
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 1: and me and him couldn't be no more opposite than

764
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 1: anything else. Should be listening to different music, listening to

765
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:53,399
Speaker 1: different everything. But he was just today yeah right, yeah

766
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:56,279
Speaker 1: we're cool. Yeah he back, Um, he lives actually in

767
00:40:56,440 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 1: um the Philip Pennsylvanity, the p A and got a

768
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 1: truck in business. He got three or four trucks got

769
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 1: It might be good to get him on the show,

770
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 1: and let's hear how how he felt about it happening

771
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:14,280
Speaker 1: to interact with you, understand, kid, I gotta see kids

772
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 1: with that for sure. It would be real interesting. But

773
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:18,799
Speaker 1: you know when I say all that to say, man,

774
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 1: like you know, I hear a lot of brothers they

775
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,800
Speaker 1: think with the r. Kelly stuff, it was a racism involved.

776
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,360
Speaker 1: And I said, you know what, maybe to a certain

777
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 1: degree with the sentencing, I don't know if it has

778
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 1: anything to do with racism or more versus that people

779
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 1: are just taking a hard line of ship like that

780
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 1: right now. As far as mistreating women, you feel what

781
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 1: I mean, they're taking a hard line on it right now, man,

782
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:46,760
Speaker 1: And it's an element of race. I'm not so eager

783
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 1: to say, James, that ain't an element of racism to it.

784
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 1: Because his sentencing was wrong. They brought in things that

785
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 1: didn't have nothing to do with his trial. He didn't

786
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 1: kidnap nobody, He wasn't not there forcing nobody into being

787
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 1: sexual slaves. He wasn't forced nobody to do nothing. He

788
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 1: just how mean, how many rich white kids get slapt

789
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 1: on the rig on the risk for a girl? Holland

790
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 1: ray Bar he touched me in appropriate leg? How many

791
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 1: of them get slapped, you know, get slapped on the risk?

792
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:19,760
Speaker 1: You know, it is a different bro It is a difference.

793
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:23,399
Speaker 1: It is about the color you know, your skin when

794
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 1: it comes to certain things. You know what I'm saying.

795
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:30,879
Speaker 1: I said, I think it played. I definitely think racism.

796
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 1: We gotta be one hunting with it. Yeah, played has

797
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 1: it has some elements James of racism because of the

798
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 1: sense because you know, when they started talking about they

799
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 1: pretty much him like he was a pimp, like he

800
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 1: was like not not just a pimp, like he was

801
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 1: a child smuggler, human trafficking and something. They like he

802
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 1: was human trafficking. But how do you give him that?

803
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:57,319
Speaker 1: And and and he's the only motherfucker's indicted. He the

804
00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:00,080
Speaker 1: only motherfucker that's doing time in prison. What about the

805
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:03,799
Speaker 1: people his entourage? How do he get these girls? How

806
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 1: do we do this? So they didn't give a funk

807
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 1: about investigating that type of ship. They just went after him,

808
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 1: not at all. And some of those parents should have

809
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 1: went to jail. Two. I think if this happens right now,

810
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 1: let's say my daughter five years old before and I

811
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 1: decided to leave her here at the thing. I said, okay,

812
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to the story. Of course, you stay

813
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:24,840
Speaker 1: here and watch TV. I'll come back to the house

814
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:26,800
Speaker 1: on fire, and she on que three or four people.

815
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 1: I'm going to jail flex that was my responsibility. I

816
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:32,799
Speaker 1: shouldn't left a five year old. Now leave Linel A

817
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:34,840
Speaker 1: Linel smarter than will, but you won't go leave Linel

818
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:38,839
Speaker 1: by itself somewhere from a long time. So what you're

819
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:43,759
Speaker 1: saying is those parents knew that their child was gone. Yeah,

820
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:46,799
Speaker 1: parents knew from the beginning that their kid was gone,

821
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:52,280
Speaker 1: whether they cleaped out and went to uh cowbo with

822
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:55,319
Speaker 1: with with R Kelly and then once they found out,

823
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 1: should data called the police and say this grown as

824
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:03,399
Speaker 1: man's it's working with my daughter bringing out of town

825
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 1: when he and see my whole thing is this. If

826
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 1: it would have been me and my daughter, I would

827
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:10,880
Speaker 1: have been meeting their grass up there caw bow. I

828
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:12,839
Speaker 1: would have been when she came and tried to creep

829
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 1: back in that thing. I'd have been waiting downstairs in

830
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:17,279
Speaker 1: the dark, and I'd admit them outside or whatever soon

831
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:18,879
Speaker 1: as they nick with the dropper off. He just saw

832
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 1: my face looking at his window, because I think I

833
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 1: would have wanted to know what was going on, because,

834
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 1: first of all, that's my responsibility. If my daughter is fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, James,

835
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:31,759
Speaker 1: and she sneak out this motherfucker at eleven o'clock at night,

836
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 1: one o'clock in the morning to o'clock in the morning,

837
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:37,880
Speaker 1: it's my fault, right, it's my fault. That's my bad

838
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:40,800
Speaker 1: for not paying attention, because you gotta know your kids,

839
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 1: and a lot of people listen to nial on who

840
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 1: their kids are. James. I've never worked rose colored lenses

841
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:48,880
Speaker 1: when it came to who my keys was. So if

842
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 1: somebody came and told me your kids de sux, I

843
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 1: wasn't so quick to say with you. A lot of

844
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 1: my child would never do that. You don't know what

845
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 1: your kids capable of. You got a lot of motherfucker's

846
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:00,759
Speaker 1: out of here talking about their kids pretty, but they're

847
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:03,880
Speaker 1: ugly and the motherfucker. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I

848
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 1: talk about my grandkids. I talked about that Mama's I

849
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 1: talked about everybody. If you're ugly, ugly like me. If

850
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 1: if you're ugly ugly, don't go out there acting like

851
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:16,399
Speaker 1: you this and that. But you know, and I think

852
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:18,400
Speaker 1: I hear you though, yeah, Like if you're looking at

853
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:21,320
Speaker 1: this R. Kelly stuff. Though a lot of these fingers

854
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:23,440
Speaker 1: are sitting up here boo who and this their daughters

855
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 1: was fast as hell? Should they be accountable for that?

856
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:31,400
Speaker 1: They should be accountable for that because the thing heils

857
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 1: You allowed it. You allowed it. You took her over

858
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:36,359
Speaker 1: there with this man. You knew what he was about.

859
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 1: You could listen to this man's music. First of all,

860
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:40,919
Speaker 1: change if my daughter was a singer and R. Kelly

861
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:42,919
Speaker 1: was talking about doing so. Now I'm like, R Kelly,

862
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:44,880
Speaker 1: you finally do some beats on it or something like that.

863
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 1: But as far as I've messed with to your stuff

864
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 1: was a little too sexy. Suggested First, he's a young girl.

865
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:53,240
Speaker 1: You gotta have common sense. It's a difference. Now Disney

866
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 1: is hitting me up about my daughter or somebody like

867
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 1: um to do that type of music that caters towards

868
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:00,879
Speaker 1: younger people or something like that. That makes more sense.

869
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 1: But this dude, everything he does sound like it's one

870
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:06,440
Speaker 1: of his songs. R. Kelly tells you who he is

871
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 1: on every song. They should be accounting before it and

872
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:13,479
Speaker 1: see the cold thing about it is, man, people don't

873
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 1: see it know him. Child abuse don't only come in

874
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 1: the form of whooping the kid's ass. You know what

875
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Child abuse is a motherfucker. If you allow

876
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 1: a twelve thirteen, fifteen, six and young kids to do

877
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 1: what the punk they want as a parent, that's child abuse.

878
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 1: Should abuse. It's it's like you got some parents. I

879
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:36,720
Speaker 1: do some parents James and I was in high school.

880
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:39,360
Speaker 1: I had some humps. I had certain homies. You go

881
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 1: over their house. They was allowed to drink beer. There

882
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 1: was a lot of the smoke weed, there was a

883
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:45,400
Speaker 1: lot of and they did this stuff all when their

884
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 1: mother was an house living room smoking the joint fifteen

885
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 1: sixty years old. Mims might walk by hit it and

886
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:54,239
Speaker 1: it's like, I'm looking at this ship, like damn, I'm

887
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:56,360
Speaker 1: this ship is crazy dog y'all. They're like, man, you

888
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 1: want to know I'm cool? Well know him. That's why

889
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 1: you know. I wouldn't even sit down and and and

890
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 1: get drunk with my kids. My sons, my daughter. You know,

891
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:11,440
Speaker 1: you see these these little cats hanging next to pops

892
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:16,800
Speaker 1: and and Mom's smoking weed together. That's unheard of. So

893
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 1: I'm a kid, You're not a parent no more, you're

894
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 1: a friend. You wanted the homies, you know what I'm saying.

895
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 1: So you know it's just how we're pairing. And you know,

896
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna take nothing from nobody because I made

897
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:33,239
Speaker 1: a lot of mistakes as a as a young father,

898
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 1: you know, going to pre but I can honestly say

899
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 1: I never did any type of sucking drugs with my kids.

900
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:47,279
Speaker 1: I didn't allow my boys to sagging their pants. I

901
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:50,440
Speaker 1: didn't allow my boys to have in rings. Right now

902
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:53,880
Speaker 1: to day now one of my sons ears appears northern

903
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 1: is mine. So it's just certain things I did. It

904
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:01,320
Speaker 1: wasn't about the money factor for me and my kids.

905
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:06,400
Speaker 1: My kids was good. But being a parent, you're not

906
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 1: gonna go down the road I went down. You're not

907
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 1: gonna if I caught you with Japans hanging off your

908
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 1: grass were bee from the pipe. So there's no excuses

909
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:19,359
Speaker 1: for us with children. And I don't give a funk

910
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:21,239
Speaker 1: what type of man you are. I don't give a funk.

911
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 1: What type of woman you are? You know, it's natural

912
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 1: instances that that helps you do the right thing when

913
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 1: it comes to being a parent, and everybody ignores that.

914
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 1: Most people ignored, such as myself. But I understood. I understood.

915
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna say me because I understood. My sons

916
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:47,319
Speaker 1: ain't like that. My right down to day I got.

917
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 1: I got my son out there in Texas doing real good.

918
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:56,239
Speaker 1: M My oldest son is raised in. His daughter. She's

919
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 1: fifteen and he's been having her since day one, straight

920
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 1: out to her school. He's doing good. He's been working

921
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 1: as a pharmacy tech for him. My son is thirty

922
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 1: seven and he's been working in since he was nineteen. Thing,

923
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 1: yeah he he when when you know, he was going

924
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 1: back to school at this daughter came. But he found

925
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:25,719
Speaker 1: out that being a single parent with a baby, it's

926
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:28,759
Speaker 1: a motherfucker what he is man, especially for a dude. Man,

927
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:31,239
Speaker 1: it changed. It's hard to raise kids, man. And you

928
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 1: ain't got to tell me. I've been trying to throw

929
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:35,880
Speaker 1: Nino at the house, but for over three and a

930
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 1: half years. I mean, you have to stop everything. And

931
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:42,399
Speaker 1: that's what these young women don't understand. Once you become

932
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:45,239
Speaker 1: a parent. That means you're a parent. You have to

933
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 1: protect and provide for this child. It ain't for grandmama

934
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 1: and granddaddy to do. You had to go. You have

935
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:54,799
Speaker 1: to do it. There was certain choices I had to make, James,

936
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:56,880
Speaker 1: when I had my son, it was certain choices I

937
00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:58,400
Speaker 1: had to make, and I said, you know what, I'm

938
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:00,800
Speaker 1: gonna stay Tempto was down to be the man and

939
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 1: my son's life that he deserves. It. Hedn't asked to

940
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 1: be here, right, it ain't they funk? Yeah, you know,

941
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 1: he didn't ask to be here. So hell yeah. It

942
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 1: was a lot of sacrifices of me and my wife

943
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 1: both had to make a lot of second plice. The

944
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:13,799
Speaker 1: first thing was us getting married. You know what I'm saying.

945
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:15,839
Speaker 1: I said, man, I won't stop the roll a certain way.

946
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 1: So we was married, right, you know, so we married.

947
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 1: I held it down. It's been a long time and

948
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 1: I ain't go to the pen say it's been all

949
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:25,120
Speaker 1: peaks and cream dough. But it's been pretty good. It's

950
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 1: been more good than bad, and that's what matters. Been

951
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 1: more good than that. Man. Well, I think this one

952
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:35,879
Speaker 1: right here, man, this one for the books, right here exams. Right,

953
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 1: it's good, it's good. And then I'm glad that that

954
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 1: we're able to voice ote opinion on certain things like this,

955
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 1: because everybody got their own perception of, oh yeah, it's

956
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:51,360
Speaker 1: good for Kelly, not just for Kelly, everybody. Other people

957
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:55,239
Speaker 1: should have been accountable for what the fun is going on,

958
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And you know, it's just

959
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:00,160
Speaker 1: sucked up that some of us just get the raw

960
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 1: handled and ship and it is what it is, bro,

961
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 1: it is what it is.