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Speaker 2: But he did drag me a little bit.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for tuning in to the NFL Player's Second

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Speaker 3: Act podcast. I'm Peena Tillman and with me as always

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Speaker 3: as I got my guy, Roman Harper. Oh, I like

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Speaker 3: that shirt man.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Penut.

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Speaker 3: I'm feeling the mister Rogers vibe right now. You got

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Speaker 3: a mister Rogers vibe thing.

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Speaker 2: You got the.

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Speaker 3: Foot the lay across.

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Speaker 4: It's called a card again, and yes it is something

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Speaker 4: like that. So I appreciate that. I'm really excited for

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Speaker 4: this guest. I've never really got to sit down. I've

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Speaker 4: only got to admire this guy's career from afar. Never

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Speaker 4: really got to sit down spend a lot of time

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Speaker 4: he's been able to accomplish. Really really proud of everything

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Speaker 4: he's got done. And it's three DB's out here, baby,

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Speaker 4: so he sarn is three D three DB's together.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be a good one. You know, introduced who

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Speaker 2: We have.

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Speaker 3: Played thirteen seasons in the NFL, the number fifth pick

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Speaker 3: twenty ten All Decade Team. Now, he does a lot

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Speaker 2: Also avid golfer and is.

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Speaker 5: An avid golfer. I don't know if he's a good golfer,

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Speaker 5: but he's an avid golfer. Right, that's a whole nother story.

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Speaker 2: All the way to be good is you got to

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Speaker 3: He be out there, Nazi German or con Patrick Peterson

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Speaker 2: Appreciate you guys, appreciate it. Man.

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Speaker 3: The golf game, what's what's let's talk about the golf

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Speaker 3: real quick. Every every one we get, every every person

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Speaker 2: It's boring. Man, I love golf. It's just for me.

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Speaker 2: It just puts me in a different.

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Speaker 2: And Pat you can probably talk about this too.

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Speaker 4: It's like it's something we said about not mastering a craft,

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Speaker 4: It's always something and even your best shots, not even

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Speaker 4: So that's what I like. I love about golf. I'm

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Speaker 4: I agree it range don't let don't tell you because

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Speaker 5: Credit, get back to football, right, Let's talk about some dbs.

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Speaker 5: All right, bring it back? So bring it back? You

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Speaker 1: You not want to start football And I'll come on

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Speaker 4: So Pat and you and you, I will give you credit.

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Speaker 4: I think you're probably one of the guys that started this.

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Speaker 3: Wow damn bottom. Yes, how many Jim Thorpe Alabama got?

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Speaker 2: And you can go. You know you brought it up.

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Speaker 3: So I want to hear, okay, well split away, spit

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Speaker 4: Well, Pat Peterson, all right, twenty eleven, first round draft pick.

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Speaker 4: You got Mo Clayborn twenty twelve, Eric Reed, I give

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Speaker 4: Marlon Humphrey two at twenty seventeen, Landon Collins from Louisiana

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Speaker 4: the University of Alabama high Tide, no high time, Go Elephants.

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Speaker 2: Nobody says that. I'm definitely not saying nothing about no

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Speaker 3: So you can say go Elephants. You can say that,

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Speaker 1: But you were talking about you're talking about the first

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Speaker 1: Just what the guys did in college in the awards

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Speaker 1: Minka was the second or the third player in college

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Speaker 2: There, I was a second.

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Speaker 1: Tyron, he won major wards, he was a Heisman finalist.

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Speaker 1: I will say, you guys have have had more first

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Speaker 1: No doubt about it, because more confidence. You have more

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm definitely happy and proud to say that

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Speaker 2: I agree. And when I went back and looked, I'm like, damn,

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Speaker 1: We got office of Lineman's wearing it now Will And

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Speaker 1: I guess like a slogan. It's called the impact number.

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Speaker 1: So if you rock at number seven, your impact player.

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Speaker 1: And that was the first time that I've ever seen

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Speaker 1: it's so unique to where Will couldn't he couldn't wear

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Speaker 2: They made a patch for him.

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Speaker 2: Hey, where is it a practice? You can't wear it

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Speaker 3: That's like a little tradition. I like the culture of it.

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Speaker 2: That's that's good.

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Speaker 4: So how many times do people actually bring up that play?

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Speaker 1: It was Cam's like heismanbo That moment came down to

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Speaker 1: So as soon as I graduated, all the documents, everything

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Speaker 3: That's cool, And hey, how did your dad receive that?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it was a little bit more than healthy.

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Speaker 4: You had a great rookie first year, like Peanut said,

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Speaker 4: And then your second year you had seven interceptions. I'm confused, though,

442
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Speaker 4: as fast as you are, you've only ran two interceptions

443
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Speaker 4: back for touchdowns.

444
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Speaker 1: Yeah wow, because I'm a man and man guy. And

445
00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:44,520
Speaker 1: you got to think about it too. Room when my

446
00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:48,760
Speaker 1: interceptions came from majority with my back towards the quarterback.

447
00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:51,320
Speaker 1: So now when I'm finding a ball, I have to

448
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Speaker 1: adjust and catch the ball in the receivers right there

449
00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:57,560
Speaker 1: nine times out of ten, and you know, then he's

450
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Speaker 1: bringing me down to the ground the most, the most

451
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Speaker 1: yards I've ever got off my interceptions when I was

452
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Speaker 1: in zone, so when I can see the ball and

453
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Speaker 1: kind of navigate where then but every all majority of

454
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Speaker 1: my interception came in man to where I had to

455
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Speaker 1: adjust to the quarterback and you know, find the football

456
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Speaker 1: and obviously I'm right there with the receiver, so he's

457
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Speaker 1: bringing me down.

458
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Speaker 2: Now it turns out of ten I was.

459
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Speaker 4: That's one stat I just like man. I just did

460
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Speaker 4: not would have thought it would have been eight. Yeah,

461
00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:27,920
Speaker 4: because I've seen you get in the zone, but it's

462
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Speaker 4: mostly pump return So that's that.

463
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Speaker 2: I did not know.

464
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Speaker 3: That you got what you gotta touchdown telling me you

465
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Speaker 3: that I got two years agovel okay, which is crazy.

466
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Speaker 4: I was like, there's no way I got the same

467
00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:44,920
Speaker 4: amount as that's really how I got that. There's no way,

468
00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:47,680
Speaker 4: but like you got to there's no way, but.

469
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Speaker 2: What pum returns you for for?

470
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Speaker 1: But you know what's crazy about how you said I

471
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Speaker 1: had the four pump returns my rookie year. I struggled

472
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Speaker 1: as a defender, though I was necessarily I struggle. I

473
00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:05,120
Speaker 1: had had ebbs and flows as a defender my rookie year,

474
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Speaker 1: but scoring those touchdowns gave me confidence.

475
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Speaker 2: That I could still be out here, not only that,

476
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Speaker 2: that I belong here. Yeah.

477
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Speaker 1: So now let's put it all together. Now I understand

478
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Speaker 1: how teams want to attack me. Now let's put all

479
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Speaker 1: my focus on how to be a better defender.

480
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean. Because at the end

481
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Speaker 2: of the day, when.

482
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Speaker 1: I was when I when I was, uh, you know,

483
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Speaker 1: as a pump returner, those were dynamic plays like I

484
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Speaker 1: want games with that, you know what I mean. So

485
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Speaker 1: I won't necessarily say my focus was, you know, solely

486
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Speaker 1: on that, but I was having so much fun doing

487
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Speaker 1: I was looking forward to doing that, you know what

488
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Speaker 1: I mean. So after that year, it gave me confidence like, yeah,

489
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Speaker 1: pe man, you belong Like, let's do what you what

490
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Speaker 1: you really are here to be.

491
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Speaker 2: And that's the one of the best.

492
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Speaker 1: Part about that struggle though, Understanding how teams wanted to

493
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Speaker 1: wanted to attack me, under Understanding the different splits, because

494
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Speaker 1: you know, coming from college, the numbers are, you know,

495
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Speaker 1: three yards away on.

496
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:01,359
Speaker 2: The sideline, you know what I mean.

497
00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:04,160
Speaker 1: Now you're in the league, they're what twelve yards away

498
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Speaker 1: from the sideline, you know what I mean. So understanding

499
00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:10,920
Speaker 1: the different splits, understanding the different route combinations now because you,

500
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Speaker 1: like I just said, in college, everything is spread wide

501
00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:16,680
Speaker 1: open and the lead is more condensed. It's more motions,

502
00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,840
Speaker 1: it's more shifts, so you have to have your eyes

503
00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,680
Speaker 1: in the right place. There's so much more detail oriented

504
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:25,640
Speaker 1: in the league than it was in college. So once

505
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Speaker 1: I Adrian Wilson was a guy who helped me tremendous

506
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Speaker 1: with that on how to study film, how to read

507
00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:35,840
Speaker 1: different formations, and I believe that's what really helped slow

508
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Speaker 1: the game down for me, and that's how I was

509
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Speaker 1: able to take that next step in year two.

510
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Speaker 4: I just love what you're saying because I want our

511
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Speaker 4: viewers and our listeners to understand that's like real nfl

512
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:51,480
Speaker 4: dB jargon right there, and that's like the evolution for

513
00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:53,800
Speaker 4: every player. Where the game truly gets to slow down

514
00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:55,920
Speaker 4: is where I'm actually seeing the whole game.

515
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Speaker 2: I'm not just playing a position.

516
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Speaker 4: And then when it gets to that point, you sound

517
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 4: like a real pro, and now you're able to teach

518
00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:05,320
Speaker 4: young guys, and that's how you have that's how you

519
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 4: get thirteen years exactly, because you're not the same physically,

520
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:11,640
Speaker 4: even though you're still pat p and we know how

521
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:13,920
Speaker 4: fast you are, you'll be faster when you're forty five.

522
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Speaker 4: But you know what I mean, the hysical part right

523
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,040
Speaker 4: continues to get us all and that's how you cause

524
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Speaker 4: you maybe talk about that part like as you age,

525
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:25,600
Speaker 4: as you grew as even when you got to Pittsburgh,

526
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Speaker 4: when you're towards the end, like how did you transform

527
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Speaker 4: yourself inside the classroom as well?

528
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Speaker 1: Man? You know it started young because like I knew

529
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Speaker 1: if I wanted to play this game, like, my goal

530
00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,800
Speaker 1: was always to play fourteen. I missed it by a year,

531
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Speaker 1: but my goal was to play fourteen years and with

532
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Speaker 1: me understanding what comes with that, because I know you're

533
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Speaker 1: not going to be as athletic that you were when

534
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Speaker 1: you was twenty two years old. You know there's a

535
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Speaker 1: stretch to where you're going to be at a peak

536
00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:59,680
Speaker 1: and you're going to be falling off that cliff pretty soon.

537
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Speaker 1: So therefore you got to be ahead of the game mentally.

538
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Speaker 1: And I feel like being able to understand how important

539
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 1: film study was at a young age, like you said,

540
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Speaker 1: that is something that helped me stand in the league

541
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Speaker 1: as long as I did, because man, these as I

542
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,719
Speaker 1: got older, these these receivers are getting small and faster, yea.

543
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Speaker 1: So then therefore I got to be a step ahead

544
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Speaker 1: of them. And that's why I'm really I was really

545
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Speaker 1: hard on the younger guys when I was, you know,

546
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Speaker 1: in Minnesota and Pittsburgh. Like, man, listen, bro I was

547
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Speaker 1: in you guys' shoes before. Trust me, you're not going

548
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Speaker 1: to be running at four to three or whatever you're

549
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Speaker 1: in at the comebine. You're not going to be running

550
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Speaker 1: a three four years now because the seasons are long,

551
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:47,320
Speaker 1: the off seasons are long, the grind is long, so

552
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Speaker 1: your body is going to doing it at some point.

553
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Speaker 1: So therefore you got to keep between the ears sharp

554
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Speaker 1: as possible.

555
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Speaker 2: Pat. So I want to talk about twenty fifteen, man, Okay,

556
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Speaker 2: like that? I don't like that. Wrong, you're going with it?

557
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:07,160
Speaker 2: Come on, let's talk about it. Twenty fifteen Arizona Cars

558
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 2: had a great year. I mean both of you guys

559
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:12,640
Speaker 2: was on that team, yes, you were. I mean we won.

560
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Speaker 4: Fifteen straight, fourteen straight, fifteen fifteen, fifteen straight, and we

561
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 4: were still having to try and win the number one

562
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Speaker 4: seed at fifteen because you guys are doing so well.

563
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Speaker 4: You guys didn't allow us.

564
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Speaker 2: To take any time we should be able to rest

565
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Speaker 2: that we can't crazy.

566
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Speaker 4: I forgot about that, yes, right there, we still had

567
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Speaker 4: to play.

568
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Speaker 2: Did I forget about it?

569
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Speaker 4: Just to lock up first place because arizonas having such

570
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Speaker 4: a brilliant year rolling?

571
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Speaker 2: Yes, I was rolling, yeah, man.

572
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Speaker 4: And then all of a sudden that that championship game,

573
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Speaker 4: what happened can maybe what in your eyes you tell

574
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Speaker 4: it from.

575
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Speaker 1: Your view, man, that was first of all, that was

576
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Speaker 1: congratulations to you guys.

577
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Speaker 2: You guys kicked out.

578
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Speaker 4: But in that game, there's no way I thought it

579
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:02,359
Speaker 4: was gonna be that like that.

580
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:07,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, me either at that time going into that game,

581
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:12,200
Speaker 1: the injury bug really really hurt us. Like Tyron missing

582
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:15,439
Speaker 1: Tyn was a big piece uh in our defense. Carson

583
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 1: Palmer Tearnis uh the in that finger ligament in the

584
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 1: division around against Green Bay, so he wasn't his best

585
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Speaker 1: because we leaned on Carson like we like we.

586
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 2: Had speed all over the yard.

587
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Speaker 1: So then once you guys were able to take that

588
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,879
Speaker 1: away because we knew and the Steve Wilks defense, you

589
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 1: guys was a quarter system, so we knew that was

590
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Speaker 1: going to be hard getting the ball down the field correct.

591
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Speaker 1: Then you got Luke Keigley, who's the shriff for the defense.

592
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 1: You can't get nothing over his head, you know.

593
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Speaker 2: So we knew it was going to be a tough,

594
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 2: a tough day.

595
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Speaker 1: But when Carson threw that interception he tried to throw

596
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Speaker 1: the ball to John Brown, I said, oh man, it's

597
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 1: gonna be a long day.

598
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:56,680
Speaker 2: It's gonna be a long day. And they was.

599
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Speaker 1: I think he threw four interceptions that game, like the

600
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Speaker 1: one he threw right before the half.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that was that was a backbreaker because you guys wins. Yeah,

602
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 4: got that interception right before man, and then after.

603
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 1: That it was just it was a Cam Newton show.

604
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 1: After that it was Cam Newton left, Cam Newton right,

605
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:23,399
Speaker 1: Cam Newton middle Superman. But yeah, yeah, it was uh

606
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 1: the injuries, the injuries hurt us going into that game.

607
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:29,359
Speaker 1: But I definitely we knew it was going to be

608
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:32,360
Speaker 1: a battle, but we thought it would definitely be closer.

609
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 2: But you guys, you got you guys did what you.

610
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 4: Supposed and then from there to piggyback the rest of

611
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 4: your years in Arizona after that, because you think you

612
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Speaker 4: just be able to.

613
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Speaker 2: Run it back.

614
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Speaker 4: We talked about that all the time, like, but you

615
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 4: don't get to take last year's success with you into

616
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Speaker 4: this year. You guys didn't have another winning season at

617
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Speaker 4: Arizona when you were there the rest of your tom many.

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Speaker 2: More years were you there after that season? Five? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: So the next five years? Why was that was the

620
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 4: like what turned or what was that?

621
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Speaker 2: Injuries again?

622
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Speaker 1: Then Carson retired, you know then because coming into twenty

623
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Speaker 1: sixteen towards a c L against.

624
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 2: The Rams forgot you know what I mean.

625
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 1: So it was just like we just kept getting hit

626
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 1: with the injury bugs, injury bug then then being retired.

627
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, so then we bought in Steve Wilkes.

628
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he was there for Yes, Bradford, Sam Bradford

629
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Speaker 1: who was just coming off in the edge of Philly

630
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 1: we drafted. He was there for a hot second like yes.

631
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Speaker 1: Then you know, like Steve didn't have.

632
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 4: Nothing to work with nothing, you know he did. Steve

633
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 4: Kaning was out. You know, he's not your guy, but

634
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 4: Steve Kanan was. I listened to your podcast. So Steve

635
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 4: kank got suspended.

636
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 2: It was just so much.

637
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 1: That was it was just a man. It was just

638
00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 1: a domino effect, man. So we just couldn't get it right.

639
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 1: Then we got Cliff in there, you know, Cliff had,

640
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 1: you know, early success, but we couldn't get over the

641
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 1: hump in the second half of the season, you know,

642
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 1: because he came in with Kyler Murray, who is a

643
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 1: phenomenal athlete, you know, and he's getting better now it

644
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 1: is with his leadership skills.

645
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 2: But now he's good.

646
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 3: He's a good film. He loves the study film.

647
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 1: Now he has to get over the hump of winning

648
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 1: late in the year as well, because the record has

649
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 1: shown he can't win late in the year. I don't

650
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 1: know if it's lack of studying film, but something has

651
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 1: to change.

652
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Speaker 2: Be good. I'm great. I am so great. I love

653
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Speaker 2: you for that.

654
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 3: I appreciate that.

655
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Speaker 1: I appreciate that because I mean it is in this

656
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Speaker 1: contract though that's a whole great.

657
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 2: That is a great point. I forgot.

658
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Speaker 3: That's a whole different.

659
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Speaker 2: And how about the fact that.

660
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 1: Story which is bizarre, that part that too, and the

661
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Speaker 1: fact that his agent allowed him to put all of that.

662
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 2: That's that's bad. That's bad. I got one for it.

663
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 3: So you said, you you finished up with thirteen, you

664
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 3: want to get fourteen, and I know you were still

665
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 3: in talks with teams and you didn't sound anybody if

666
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 3: a team were to call you next season, would you

667
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 3: still play?

668
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 2: Probably not?

669
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 1: Why because man, like I always said that if I

670
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 1: don't have the desire to work out, Like I.

671
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 2: Don't mind working out, yeah, but I don't.

672
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 1: Have the desire to work out. I got you, and

673
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 1: you guys are retired. You guys know how it is.

674
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 1: If you don't have the desire and you always want

675
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 1: to put your best foot forward, there's no need to

676
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 1: put yourself out there.

677
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 4: I always think it's really funny to me on the

678
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 4: inside when and it's cool, like I take it as

679
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 4: like a great compliment when somebody's like, man, Bro, man

680
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 4: like you still like you could pay you know what?

681
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 2: Man, I appreciate it. Right, Well, I'm going out there.

682
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 2: The mentality is not there, right, that's what you're saying.

683
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 2: Don't want to The mentality is not there.

684
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 1: Especially being off a whole year. Oh yeah right, I

685
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 1: gotta be thirty thirty five this year.

686
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 3: Fans don't think about that though, Like I have not

687
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 3: played in almost ten years, and like the Bears will

688
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 3: have a bad season or dB will make a bad

689
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 3: player or something, and it's like you're just like, Bro,

690
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 3: I'm forty, I'm almost forty four. I think I look good.

691
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 3: I appreciate the compliment, but like, bro, I'm forty four, Like,

692
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 3: are you seriously now you go out there pull a

693
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 3: hair straight?

694
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, come on that way, I get you off

695
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 5: the box, get your I might be able to get

696
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 5: you about two series.

697
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 3: I think I can get too serious. And then it's yeah,

698
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 3: it's not.

699
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 1: From You don't even want the first two series. You

700
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 1: want to get like I want the tired Guy exactly

701
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 1: like that.

702
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 2: Third fourth series.

703
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 3: Shit, yeah, that's exactly what I want.

704
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 2: We'll be right back.

705
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 3: So now that you're in the in the media space

706
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 3: like us, and you know your your TV analysts, you

707
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 3: got these podcasts, where do you see yourself going in

708
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 3: the space right now?

709
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 1: Man? You know, now I'm being in this rim and

710
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:07,479
Speaker 1: have an opportunity to do so many different things. Now,

711
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 1: I really want to have the opportunity to commentate a

712
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 1: game just because you know, you hear radio or TV both, Okay,

713
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 1: Like I would love to be you know, on on

714
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 1: the on the television that you know showed this beautiful

715
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 1: face of mind. But I love the fact that you

716
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 1: can give like raw feedback and give someone some intel

717
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 1: like right then and there right after they saw the action. Yeah,

718
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 1: Like for me, like like I know the game inside

719
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 1: and out, but I feel like when I'm at a

720
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 1: desk and have to like break down points, it be

721
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 1: so much I want to talk about.

722
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 2: Then after my head be like, damn, I forgot to

723
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:42,959
Speaker 2: say that. I forgot to say this.

724
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 1: Then when I do, like my my radio hits, I

725
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 1: feel more fluent with the way that I'm giving the information.

726
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 1: I don't feel like I'm leaving anything out, anything out,

727
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 1: if that makes sense.

728
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 2: Yeah.

729
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 3: So I went to the I went to the game

730
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 3: in London, the Bears play Jacksonville. I never called a

731
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 3: game ever in life, never practiced it, never went to

732
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 3: the broadcast, boot camp, never did nothing. So I get

733
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 3: asked to do the show or call the game. So

734
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 3: I think I called Rome. We talked about it for

735
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 3: a little bit. I got I got some tips from Rome,

736
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 3: and I basically did a little my own little research

737
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 3: and kind of taught myself. And I'm practicing. The day

738
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 3: of the game is game time and the first series

739
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:30,279
Speaker 3: of first play the guy says something and I was like.

740
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:38,799
Speaker 5: It was it was like it was like a two

741
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 5: yard run, like it was nothing sexy about the play

742
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 5: and I was just like, that was good though, but

743
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 5: I didn't. But I knew I could have said other

744
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,320
Speaker 5: things other than the play. I could have talked about,

745
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:50,839
Speaker 5: you know, the season and how they've been going on.

746
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 5: But again, I had never practiced it.

747
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 3: And then once I finally got going, I wanted to

748
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 3: say more because in football, or excuse me, in radio,

749
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,760
Speaker 3: you have to be so descriptive because they.

750
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:03,400
Speaker 2: Can't see it.

751
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,439
Speaker 5: They can only hear it, right, So I would say

752
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 5: little things and I wanted to give more, but he's like,

753
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 5: hurry up, give it to me because I got to

754
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:12,359
Speaker 5: describe the play.

755
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 2: So the one thing I've.

756
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 3: Learned word management, like your words have to be intentional

757
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,800
Speaker 3: and they have to be very specific on what you're saying.

758
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:25,360
Speaker 3: And it was, don't get me wrong, it was I

759
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 3: had a good time. I had a good experience. To

760
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:28,720
Speaker 3: ask me to do it again, I couldn't just because

761
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 3: of you know, my schedule, but it was it was

762
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 3: definitely something different. Definitely was something different. So yeah, I

763
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 3: hope you get that opportunity. It was fun, don't get wrong,

764
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 3: had a blast doing it. I'll think, I think you'll

765
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 3: be you'll be great, and you'll have fun at it.

766
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 3: You're naturally passionate about this game in the spot which

767
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:46,439
Speaker 3: matters about it?

768
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 2: It has to matter.

769
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 4: And uh and I like it because there's going to

770
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 4: be a different perspective. All we see a lot of

771
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:56,360
Speaker 4: times are offensive minds, Yes, quarterbacks from that side, offensive line.

772
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 4: It's always good to have from a defensive perspective. Right now,

773
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,760
Speaker 4: it's a few of them in that call for Fox

774
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,400
Speaker 4: and John Film was one of them. He's just like

775
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 4: great one of the few, because that comes from a

776
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:09,959
Speaker 4: defensive perspective where we.

777
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 2: See it from this side of the ball.

778
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 4: And a lot of times what you don't understand is

779
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 4: when you get really good. And I'm sure pat the

780
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 4: same way when you watch when you watch football on TV,

781
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:21,760
Speaker 4: we don't watch the ball. We look at the formation,

782
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 4: the shift, the wheeling in the back, and then I

783
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 4: see all those things where the ball is going to go.

784
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 4: And so that's how we naturally see the game. And

785
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:32,840
Speaker 4: so to be able to share that experience with people

786
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 4: is going to be really really good and they'll start

787
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 4: doing Like when I watch football with my neighbor and

788
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:40,839
Speaker 4: he's like, you, you know, how did you know that?

789
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 2: I don't need Tony Romo to tell me what's going

790
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 2: to like, I kind.

791
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 1: Of got fine, exactly what I mean. So as a dB,

792
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 1: we kind of see it from their point of.

793
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 4: View, correct, Yeah, we see it from the outside superpower

794
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 4: and uh, well, have you had any chances to do

795
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 4: any of these things.

796
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 1: I did go to Broadcast boot Camp in twenty twenty two,

797
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 1: so I had an opportunity to do all of that.

798
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 1: But ever since I left the Broadcast boot Camp, I

799
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:10,320
Speaker 1: had two game reps, you know, just at my house.

800
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 2: You know.

801
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 1: I had a good friend of mine who came over

802
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:15,399
Speaker 1: and set up some things for me, and I had

803
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 1: an opportunity to call a series the Minnesota versus Chicago

804
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 1: Bears Monday night game in Minnesota. So that was cool

805
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:26,879
Speaker 1: because I was just doing a lot of it at home,

806
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 1: not really feeling the energy, feeling the crowd.

807
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 2: Which is different.

808
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, so when I was there, you know, doing it

809
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 1: on at the actual game. Man, I got so juiced up, bro,

810
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 1: just watching watching the game, calling the game from up there,

811
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 1: you just see it from a whole nother perspective.

812
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:45,840
Speaker 2: We got fans right here then getting into the game.

813
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 4: So you feel that you got to let the crowd

814
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 4: breathe none of that.

815
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:54,399
Speaker 1: Man.

816
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 2: So being at the game was even more exciting than

817
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 2: what you no doubt about it, No doubt I feel.

818
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,319
Speaker 1: Because you know, did you go to broadcast? I did,

819
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:05,800
Speaker 1: so you know, you just on a green screen.

820
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 2: You just that it's hard. Yeah, and you're in there

821
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 2: for like three minutes, right.

822
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 3: So they was telling me. I was like, man, it's

823
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 3: totally different.

824
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:14,879
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, that's cool, Like, but I want

825
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 1: to have an opportunity to experience it. And then I did,

826
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 1: and I was like, it is really different because like now,

827
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 1: when I have an interview with one of these major companies,

828
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 1: now I will already have experienced the live energy from

829
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 1: the crowd, so I can kind of prep myself and

830
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 1: bring that up to my audition.

831
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 4: And so why did you feel like all this was

832
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 4: so important to start while you were still playing? And

833
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:45,879
Speaker 4: because like me, I didn't do any of that until

834
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 4: I retired and Peanuts same way.

835
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

836
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 4: I just think a lot more of the younger players,

837
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:54,319
Speaker 4: you guys get it more. Now that's something outside of

838
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:56,400
Speaker 4: what we're just doing right in front of us.

839
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:56,719
Speaker 2: Yeah.

840
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 1: Man, For for me, you know, when I was in

841
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 1: high school, I had this teacher name is Novice Johnson.

842
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:04,439
Speaker 1: She was an English teacher on mine and she helped

843
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 1: me tremendously, you know, with with speeches. You know, anytime

844
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:11,880
Speaker 1: I had to speak in front of someone, she was like, Patrick, like,

845
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 1: you really have a nice voice. You know, you're a

846
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 1: good looking young man. I think, you know, she already

847
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:19,239
Speaker 1: knew I was going to be in the NFL too, Yeah,

848
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 1: your star.

849
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 2: Was already having these conversations.

850
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 1: She was like, but you know, you're not going to

851
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 1: play football forever, you know what I mean, So I

852
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 1: would love for you to, you know, continue getting your

853
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 1: communication skills up to where when you, you know, do

854
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,879
Speaker 1: walk away from the game, you can have something else

855
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 1: to do for another you know, ten twenty thirty years, you.

856
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:42,839
Speaker 2: Know what I mean.

857
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 1: So just always having that in the back of my

858
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 1: mind when I was going through college.

859
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 2: That is a great seed for her to play.

860
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:52,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, just always hearing that and just doing all

861
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:55,280
Speaker 1: these interviews. It's now starting to hear it from other people.

862
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,760
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, she must knew what she was talking about.

863
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, so now like she must know what she was

864
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:01,320
Speaker 2: talking about.

865
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:04,399
Speaker 1: And then the older I got, I was like Larry

866
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 1: Fiz Jerry used to always tell me man like, if

867
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 1: it is something that you want to do, make sure

868
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 1: you stratch scratch the iron wires hot, you know what

869
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 1: I mean. They always say it's tougher for the retired guys,

870
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 1: you know, to get into this business verse trying to

871
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 1: you know, make these relationships. You know, I wanted to

872
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 1: do that, and you know, if it was something I

873
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 1: wanted to really take serious, you know, I knew I

874
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 1: had to start it at some point, you know what

875
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:34,279
Speaker 1: I mean? And then I did around year nine. That's

876
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 1: when I started to get like real serious about it.

877
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 1: And then year eleven that's when I got invited out

878
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 1: to the boot camp and just had my podcast now

879
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:44,880
Speaker 1: for a couple of years. And now I feel like

880
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:48,279
Speaker 1: it's just planting that seed now too. You know, when

881
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:53,319
Speaker 1: I am, you know, officially called the Quits, I could

882
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 1: have a you know, a.

883
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 4: Lane to walk into you and be mac Brian Fadden.

884
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:01,360
Speaker 4: What made you guys start the podcast? And who do

885
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 4: you guys try and bring on? It's called the All

886
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 4: Things Covered? Is it just the two dbs and you.

887
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:07,919
Speaker 2: Guys are just talking ball.

888
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:10,760
Speaker 4: I've seen you guys are going all types of lanes

889
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 4: and you guys bring up all types of topics. You

890
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 4: guys really touch on all of it.

891
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:14,839
Speaker 2: You know.

892
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 1: The title of it is literally what we do All

893
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:21,760
Speaker 1: things covered, trying to cover all things, and the idea

894
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 1: came from him, and actually I'm happy it came for

895
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 1: him because then that started giving me more reps at it,

896
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 1: you know, without going through another major network or anything

897
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 1: like that. But COVID came around. I know, you guys

898
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 1: remember that COVID came around. Everyone had to be inside.

899
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 1: He was working with CBS, well he still works with CBS,

900
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 1: and he was like, man, you know, I can't go

901
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 1: in you know, in the building. I can't go to

902
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:52,800
Speaker 1: the Connecticut or of Florida. Those were the two spots

903
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:55,360
Speaker 1: he was going in between. He's like, man, let's just

904
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 1: start a podcast.

905
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:57,759
Speaker 2: I'm like you sure.

906
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 1: I was like, uh, I don't really know much about

907
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:02,879
Speaker 1: you know, a podcast or what we have to do

908
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 1: on a day to day basis or a week the

909
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:05,319
Speaker 1: week basis, but.

910
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:07,839
Speaker 2: I guess we could start it.

911
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:10,799
Speaker 1: So we ended up getting you know, CBS behind us

912
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:15,280
Speaker 1: to agree UH to sponsor the show for UH for

913
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:17,840
Speaker 1: a couple of years, and we did it weekly, so

914
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 1: you know, we had all types of guests on there

915
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:27,880
Speaker 1: from rappers, movie stars, uh, golfers obviously ball players, but

916
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:30,799
Speaker 1: we just literally just talk about what's going on in

917
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:34,839
Speaker 1: the world, talk about basketball, football. We don't really get

918
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 1: into the political stuff that's out of our lane. But

919
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 1: everything else though, we talk about it episodes.

920
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:48,439
Speaker 3: So yeah, So besides golfing, besides the media, what other

921
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 3: ventures do you have going on right now?

922
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:50,959
Speaker 1: Man?

923
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 2: I'm a dance dad. Okay, you're one of those, one

924
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:58,319
Speaker 2: of those, man, the commitment is real.

925
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 1: Nine and five. So me and my wife we just

926
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:07,799
Speaker 1: went on vacation right uh to a wife for a week,

927
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 1: and your mother in law had to, you know, come

928
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:10,799
Speaker 1: home and take care the girls.

929
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 2: And mind you, they both don't go to the same place, No,

930
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 2: why would they do that. After the first day, she

931
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:21,799
Speaker 2: was like, I'm just exhausted. I don't know why y'all

932
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 2: do it. Now I'm be ripping the rent of these

933
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 2: kids all around town.

934
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:27,720
Speaker 1: They got school, we got homework, they got we got dinner,

935
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 1: then we got then we got taken a two different

936
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 1: dance for places. It was like, I don't know how

937
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:34,799
Speaker 1: you guys do it, but it's a joy, you know,

938
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:38,440
Speaker 1: having an opportunity to to be able to expose my

939
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 1: girls to a lot of things so they can be

940
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:47,799
Speaker 1: well rounded. So my girls are in gymnastics, dance, cheer, ballet,

941
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 1: uh uh, jazz, they swim like they got to do

942
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:58,279
Speaker 1: the do. I was like, I literally whatever they put

943
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 1: their minds to, I want them to be able to

944
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 1: do it to where when they face a challenge in

945
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:06,880
Speaker 1: the real world, they can be well rounded about whatever

946
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:09,440
Speaker 1: situation or whatever challenge they may face in life.

947
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:16,920
Speaker 2: I like that that. No, No, we we did that early. Dad.

948
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 2: Is commitment. Next level. Gymnastics is a commitment. It is gymnastics.

949
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:23,400
Speaker 4: Four hours in the gym, Yes, Like you got to

950
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:25,919
Speaker 4: just get used to the grind, Like that's what they're

951
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 4: going to.

952
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 1: Do every day and Saturdays and Sundays I've taken Yeah,

953
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 1: and dance.

954
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:33,359
Speaker 4: Dad's are committed differently too, because you got to get

955
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:37,799
Speaker 4: used to like traveling, staying in hotels, going places for

956
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:41,760
Speaker 4: five six hours for like three minutes.

957
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, Texas, Orlando.

958
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 2: It's a different.

959
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 3: Basketball's au basketball Dad, So we had our fair shirt traveling.

960
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:52,720
Speaker 2: Yeah.

961
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 1: But it's fun though, man, because they enjoy it and

962
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 1: like I tell my wife, man, I love the fact

963
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 1: of doing it because you guys, was here for me.

964
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 1: You know throughout my you know, my kids are nine

965
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 1: now nine to five, but throughout her childhood, you know,

966
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:09,360
Speaker 1: they showed up for me on Sunday, you know what

967
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 1: I mean. So I want to I want to do

968
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 1: the same thing because I missed out on so many,

969
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:16,359
Speaker 1: so many things like first day of school, you know,

970
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:17,360
Speaker 1: taking them to school.

971
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:19,800
Speaker 2: So like now I take full advantage of that. Mom,

972
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 2: I got it.

973
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 1: I pick them up, I drop them off, I take

974
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 1: them the dance practice wherever they need to go.

975
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:29,240
Speaker 2: That's my responsibility. Yeah, I like that. Now it's cool.

976
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 4: The real question is do you keep your clubs in

977
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 4: the car with you when you're doing all this driving?

978
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:37,840
Speaker 2: Because and I need to know how much golf do

979
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:42,399
Speaker 2: you actually play? So the time I do play golf

980
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:45,759
Speaker 2: is when they are in school. Yeah, okay, okay, I

981
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 2: dropped them off, and the clubs are in my trunks.

982
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 2: So I dropped them off.

983
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:52,880
Speaker 1: I go go get my eighteen in. Yeah, grab me

984
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 1: a quick bite if I have time. Yeah, then I

985
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 1: go right back and wait in the carpool line. Pick

986
00:45:57,560 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 1: them up. We'll stop and get some Chick fil A

987
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 1: or lunch. Take Parker to our dance practice, Peyton doing

988
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 1: our homework, take her to her dance practice, go pick

989
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 1: Parker up, then go pick Piting up. She'll start her

990
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:12,239
Speaker 1: homework while she's in the car. So by the time

991
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:15,919
Speaker 1: she's at least halfway, at least seventy five percent done

992
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 1: with the homework. So to where when we get home,

993
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 1: because when we get home it's like seven fifteen, seven thirty. Yeah,

994
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 1: So now when we get home, run upstairs, get cleaned up,

995
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 1: come back downstairs, eat dinner, you know, you know, read

996
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 1: our books, or end up finishing her homework and then

997
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 1: it's time for bed. Like my kids, it's they almost

998
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 1: was like me when I was in my football schedule.

999
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:38,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I got it. Bum bum bum bum.

1000
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 1: Like I think that's just the way of the way

1001
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:46,240
Speaker 1: of life and to really mold them into into something,

1002
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 1: you know, very well when they get older.

1003
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:51,760
Speaker 2: Nothing wrong with the schedule, dude, nothing wrong with the schedule.

1004
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:55,439
Speaker 2: I love with them, That's what I'm saying. That's all. Yeah,

1005
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 2: that's all we know.

1006
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 3: So having that structure, I think it kind of sets

1007
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 3: the It's like the foundation.

1008
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:00,919
Speaker 2: Though.

1009
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:05,239
Speaker 4: Do you see yourself being a professional golfer? Is that

1010
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 4: a goal? No, I'm glad you said that because a

1011
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 4: lot of US athletes we think we can do something

1012
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 4: else in these other sports. When you watch a real

1013
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:15,279
Speaker 4: like PGA player.

1014
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 2: Those boys different. They are way different.

1015
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 4: What you got to think, like a dude on the

1016
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:22,759
Speaker 4: bench in the NBA that we think man like I

1017
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 4: they're all way different because they've been.

1018
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:27,919
Speaker 2: Doing think they've been doing it for so long. They've

1019
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:29,800
Speaker 2: been doing it, but we can do it for that long. Pinut.

1020
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 2: It's just not gonna be the same. I'm telling you,

1021
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:33,239
Speaker 2: these is way different. I get it.

1022
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:35,359
Speaker 3: I just think I think y'all could do it. I'm

1023
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 3: not gonna say me because I don't like golf like that.

1024
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:39,719
Speaker 3: I trust me. If you played golf by the time

1025
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:43,719
Speaker 3: you was I don't know, seven, eight twelve to like

1026
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:46,280
Speaker 3: where you're at right now, y'all would be a thousand

1027
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:49,280
Speaker 3: times better. And I think y'all could be professional golfers.

1028
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 2: That's just me. I agree.

1029
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 1: If we have started at a young age, yeah, to

1030
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 1: build that muscle, memory, the flexibility, and because that's where

1031
00:47:57,760 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 1: that's where it all comes from. That's why most football

1032
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:03,399
Speaker 1: players it's so hard for us to swing to hit

1033
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 1: the natural draw because we're top heavy We've been lifting

1034
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 1: weights all of our lives. We've been hitting people moving forward.

1035
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:11,440
Speaker 1: So it's tough for us to get into that slot

1036
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:14,840
Speaker 1: unless you like, truly, truly, truly, truly work on it.

1037
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:16,719
Speaker 1: But I agree with you one hundred percent. If we

1038
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 1: started at a young age, we will be one thousand

1039
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 1: percent way better than what we are now.

1040
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:26,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, my last question, thank you for not interrupting your

1041
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:31,359
Speaker 3: personal mount rushmore for people that have had influence, that

1042
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:35,960
Speaker 3: have helped you, that have molded you into what we

1043
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:37,800
Speaker 3: see today on the field.

1044
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 4: Off the field, Louis Vuitton DoD right here in front

1045
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:41,600
Speaker 4: of I go.

1046
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 1: I gotta put my dad on there for sure, just

1047
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 1: because everything that he taught me at a young age,

1048
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 1: everything he instilled in me at a young age, as

1049
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:54,800
Speaker 1: far as my leadership skills, as far as my work ethic,

1050
00:48:55,120 --> 00:49:00,880
Speaker 1: as far as my mentality, the grind he literally he

1051
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:05,960
Speaker 1: like he instilled that in me as long as as

1052
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:07,399
Speaker 1: long as I can remember, since I was.

1053
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 2: Like three four years old.

1054
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:12,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's one, my grandfather. I got to put both

1055
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:14,239
Speaker 1: of them up there so we can get like split

1056
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 1: their faces, because, like I told you guys earlier, my

1057
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 1: parents had me at a young age, and I was

1058
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:23,959
Speaker 1: fortunate enough to have both sets of my grandparents. Only

1059
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 1: have one of them one grandfather left now, but I

1060
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:29,239
Speaker 1: was fortunate to have both sets of my grandparents, So

1061
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 1: I saw them as my parents, like because when my

1062
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:35,360
Speaker 1: mom was waking up going to work, my grandparents was

1063
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 1: taking me to school, you know, my grand my grandpa

1064
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:39,719
Speaker 1: was picking me up. And I learned a lot of

1065
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:43,760
Speaker 1: my life values and the way I treat my wife

1066
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 1: from my grandfathers, like the way they ran their household,

1067
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 1: the way they respect their wives, respect their wives decisions,

1068
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 1: respect their own wanted them to be them their own selves,

1069
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:00,919
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So when I saw that,

1070
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:03,239
Speaker 1: I was like, man, I want to be like them,

1071
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:05,960
Speaker 1: like I want to be able to treat my wife

1072
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:08,720
Speaker 1: and my kids. My family have the same family values

1073
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:12,479
Speaker 1: as my grandfather's, so I believe. And I've been married

1074
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 1: going on thirteen years now, which is you know something

1075
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 1: that I feel like my grandparents helped instilled in me

1076
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 1: into my marriage as well. So that's two two faces

1077
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:27,400
Speaker 1: on one. Number three. I gotta go with Prime. You know,

1078
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:31,439
Speaker 1: me and Prime have a really close personal relationship. I've

1079
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:34,480
Speaker 1: known Prime since entering the draft. You know, we have

1080
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:38,319
Speaker 1: tons and tons of conversations. And the reason I put

1081
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 1: Prime on there is because being a kid from Pampo

1082
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:43,759
Speaker 1: No Bee's, Florida, watching him when he was with Dallas

1083
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 1: and San fran Like, I wanted to be that, right,

1084
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 1: Like I wanted to be like Prime because he was

1085
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 1: not only a defensive back, like he changed the game

1086
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:58,399
Speaker 1: in every down, first, second, third, and fourth found because

1087
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 1: he was a great pump returner as well. So like

1088
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 1: just seeing that how he literally transcend the game, like

1089
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 1: I wanted to be a part of that, or at

1090
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 1: least come close to that.

1091
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 2: And number five, I mean number four I would have

1092
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:14,959
Speaker 2: to go with.

1093
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:17,760
Speaker 1: And I never met this guy a day in my life.

1094
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 1: Kobe Bryant, Oh, never met in a day of my life.

1095
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 1: And I've been a fan of that dude since nineteen

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Speaker 1: ninety seven, and I had multiple opportunities to meet him,

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Speaker 1: but with me being a competitor every opportunity I had

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Speaker 1: to meet him, they lost the game, and my wife

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Speaker 1: still she'll beat me up about it to this day.

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Speaker 1: And that's why I named my dog Kobe, by the way.

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Speaker 1: But I got to put Kobe up there because, like

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Speaker 1: I said, I never met him before. But watching him

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Speaker 1: from afar, his mentality, his demeanor, his will to win,

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Speaker 1: his competitor nature, like that is an ultimate competitor, like

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Speaker 1: just everything that he stood for. Like I wanted to

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Speaker 1: instill some of those values in my game as well.

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Speaker 2: You know you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: So, like I said, he when he passed, Man, I cried,

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Speaker 1: and like I said, I never even met him before.

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Speaker 1: Had opportunities, but never even met him. Ended up buying

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Speaker 1: a dog the like maybe six months later, and I

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Speaker 1: named him cobD. Well, you got your covie out of it,

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Speaker 1: I got my COVID out of.

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Speaker 4: It, all right, Pat Man, I appreciate it. Man, thanks

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Speaker 4: for blessing us with your time. Man, appreciate you.

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Speaker 2: Guys.

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Speaker 4: Hop if we get on the links one time. Man,

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Speaker 4: I didn't know you were in Georgia. Yeah, anytime I'm around,

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Speaker 4: I definitely try to reach out and it Man, for real,

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Speaker 4: I did not know that. But anyway, thank you so

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Speaker 4: much for man tuning in checking us out as always,

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Speaker 4: whether you pick up your podcast with us alright Heart

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Speaker 4: Radio Apple Podcasts, thank you so much for always tune in.

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Speaker 4: Give us a five star rating of review, leave a comment, subscribe, share, share, follow,

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Speaker 4: tell a friend to tell a friend to tell a friend,

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Speaker 4: do all those things.

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Speaker 2: Peanut man, get us up out of here. Don't forget to.

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Speaker 3: Watch us on our NFL YouTube channel. I got you.

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Speaker 2: You're cool. I'm Peanut.

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Speaker 3: That's wrong, that's Pat P And this is the NFL

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Speaker 3: Player's Second Act podcast, and we out