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Speaker 2: Good morning, sweer then welcome to the No Dum's podcast

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Speaker 2: on the Athletic Network. It's Monday, January tenth, twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: two on j Siks and alongside me Ski as always

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Speaker 2: task Mellie, Good day, Good day sir. We've got the

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Speaker 2: top shot, hot boy Trey Kirby. Hey up, Hey, the

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Speaker 2: international man mystery taking it to the Max Leyellis friends.

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Speaker 3: We're all business.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, finally making the magic happen. Super producer JD Hello,

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Speaker 2: there he is here.

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Speaker 3: We are.

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Speaker 2: I sometimes screw up talking when it's not coming through

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Speaker 2: my ears the way I wanted to.

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Speaker 4: It was my fault.

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Speaker 3: Had you started thinking about the ears and the words happens.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes sounds like kind of like underwater swimming.

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Speaker 4: Does that makes sense?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Sure, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: How was the weekend? Good?

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Speaker 5: Thanks?

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Speaker 3: What did you get up to?

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Speaker 5: We had a little get together with some friends. We're

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Speaker 5: allowed to see friends. I think we played played soccer,

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Speaker 5: saw my fiver IULD turn on a little bit of

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Speaker 5: a messy you know, like, I'm not one of those

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Speaker 5: in the kids. I like to play it cool because

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Speaker 5: you see some freaky parents out there. My son plays,

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Speaker 5: and you know, like when it's like the kids playing

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Speaker 5: and they all just chase the ball around, they just

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Speaker 5: could turn this into like goal of the season right now,

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Speaker 5: but he sort of just ran kept running past the

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Speaker 5: So nearly had just an incredible goal but didn't record it.

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Speaker 5: And now I'm just telling you about it.

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Speaker 4: Can you guys beat that when it comes to your weekend?

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Speaker 3: Well, I saw some freaky parents and had a great

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Speaker 3: time with that. I love seeing freaky pairs.

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Speaker 4: Okay, I went fishing on a kayak and didn't catch

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Speaker 4: a fish, which is very similar to almost scoring a

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Speaker 4: goal and not scoring a goal. So you know, a

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Speaker 4: lot of nothing happened this week for sure.

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Speaker 2: No dunks Okay, Monday Winners and losers of the NBA weekend.

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Speaker 2: We got a whole bunch of winners, a few losers

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Speaker 2: a little bit later, but task we know where we're starting.

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Speaker 2: We're still celebrating Clay Day here in the Classic Factory.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, other stuff happened in the NBA, but this weekend

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Speaker 3: belonged to Clay Clay Day, Clay Week and whatever. I know.

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Speaker 3: We were all on Twitter awaiting the intros and the

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Speaker 3: game to happen. And I was watching intros on Twitter,

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Speaker 3: and I thought, I can actually just watch the game.

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Speaker 3: I could tune into the game. It says on NBA

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Speaker 3: League Pass free, NBA preview free, NBA intros a pregame

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Speaker 3: I can go watch that. It was cool to watch

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Speaker 3: Clay get warm. He was feeling good, the juice was going,

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Speaker 3: and then intros were great as well. Clay was announced last,

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Speaker 3: so Clay could have his moment there. And then Draymond

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Speaker 3: intentional foul so he could get out of the game

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Speaker 3: the Clay experience. And those first four minutes was pretty exciting,

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Speaker 3: and I think I think we weren't really ready for

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Speaker 3: shoots a two. I don't think anybody in there, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: we were all watching Clay Medley's from this weekend Clay

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Speaker 3: a huge jam in his second possession. He hit his three,

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Speaker 3: So he had seven points going into the half, and

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Speaker 3: I don't think was part of his repertoire at all

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Speaker 3: before either. I think this was entirely new. The fourth quarter,

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Speaker 3: He didn't have He didn't have a great line, as

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Speaker 3: Steph set after the game, well that's our clay. He

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Speaker 3: gets his shots up. He ended up seven of eighteen

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Speaker 3: impressed with him taking lowry marketing it off the dribble there.

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Speaker 3: If he can add that, you know that's not again,

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Speaker 3: that's not part of his regular repertoire. The threes are

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Speaker 3: coming along. I think, all in all, you gotta be

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Speaker 2: What do you think, Lee, was he still a beautiful

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Speaker 5: Well, when the balls started dropping those shots, yes, they

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Speaker 5: he had the big dunk that he was like, Okay,

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Speaker 5: because it's going to take him probably still, maybe a month,

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Speaker 5: who knows. I mean these sorts of things. And after

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Speaker 5: the game, actually, Clay I thought his postgame press conference

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Speaker 5: there the shots not for not a great shooting line

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Speaker 5: I thought that was great. So the crowd was great,

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Speaker 5: the atmosphere was great. The game, I mean, the Cleveland's

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Speaker 5: but he is such a joy of the sport. Klay

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean we've talked about it before. He's like, seems

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Speaker 2: it was like a big celebration yesterday Tray and it

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Speaker 4: But would you think, Yeah, I was really fun to watch.

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Speaker 4: The only thing I can even remember that was similar

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Speaker 4: Clay was awesome. I love eighteen shots in twenty minutes.

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Speaker 4: I also love the story from Steph Curry that the

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Speaker 4: his legs are at least feeling safe. And he said,

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Speaker 4: I have no fear of getting injured again. It's also

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Speaker 4: cool that he got hurt originally against the Raptors on

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Speaker 4: a dunk. Throwing down a dunk in his first game

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Speaker 4: I mean, when he has his feet shit set, ball wet,

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Speaker 4: no doubt about it. But the fadeaways in the third

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Speaker 4: he hit those three in a row really quick, and

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Speaker 4: they were all tough, tough, tough shots, and he got

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Speaker 4: and then he had to come out very quickly after

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Speaker 4: that because of his minutes limit. But those three makes,

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Speaker 4: You're like, ooh, I can see this extending to a

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Speaker 4: quick twelve makes in a quarter here, no problem. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: it was pretty pretty fun day.

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Speaker 2: Of course, the build up I think was half the

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Speaker 2: fun here over there over the weekend, and like those

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Speaker 2: like all the interviews. I love that interview that kept

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Speaker 2: going around with him and his captain's hat yea, his

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Speaker 3: Yeah doing that one? Yeah, more like two D. He

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Speaker 3: looks skinny out.

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Speaker 4: That's true.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was athletic greens or something coursing through his body.

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Speaker 4: Maybe he's not a grill master as much anymore.

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Speaker 3: He looks great dat I don't know. I don't know

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Speaker 3: There aren't many people in the league that are uniformally loved,

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Speaker 2: Another NBA winner of the weekend has to be Fred

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Speaker 2: what you're saying here, because Van Vliet was amazing in

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Speaker 2: And this is pairing Van Vliet's run nicely with Spicy

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Speaker 5: They've had a good schedule there. You mentioned the Jazz.

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Speaker 5: On Friday Show, I'm going to go on a bit

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Speaker 2: There are three games above five hundred for the first

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Speaker 3: zero centers and then they play a couple of them

433
00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:05,040
Speaker 3: coming off the bench. So god, yeah, I'm I'm loving

434
00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:07,480
Speaker 3: the Nick Nurse lineups. Every time you turn on a

435
00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:10,320
Speaker 3: Raptors game. I mean, it's just, you know, it's like

436
00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:13,960
Speaker 3: a little psychological experiment or a little science experiment. So

437
00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:17,200
Speaker 3: what are we doing here? We're playing monsters and sometimes

438
00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:19,639
Speaker 3: we go tiny, but you know, like you they've just

439
00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:22,280
Speaker 3: they're so good defensively that they figure it out no

440
00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:22,720
Speaker 3: matter what.

441
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Speaker 2: Trey, who do you have for an NBA winner of

442
00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:26,240
Speaker 2: the weekend?

443
00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:29,399
Speaker 4: Mavericks are winners of the weekend for me. They beat

444
00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:33,560
Speaker 4: the Rockets on Friday fair, but then they snapped the

445
00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:36,040
Speaker 4: Bulls nine game wins streak yesterday, and I was really

446
00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:38,680
Speaker 4: impressed with Dallas, especially in the second half of this game.

447
00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:42,520
Speaker 4: They won with defense, physicality and knocking down threes. First

448
00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:46,000
Speaker 4: half pretty even game. You know, the MAVs came out,

449
00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:48,239
Speaker 4: hit the balls in the face. The Bulls responded they

450
00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:50,600
Speaker 4: look like the tougher team. But then Josh Green subbed

451
00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:52,639
Speaker 4: in and I thought he was a major game Changer

452
00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:55,480
Speaker 4: I finished with eighteen points, eight of ten from the field,

453
00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:58,120
Speaker 4: and his energy really spurred a nine to zero run

454
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Speaker 4: there at the end of the first half. Or the

455
00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:02,280
Speaker 4: Mavericks in the second half, they came out and they

456
00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:05,720
Speaker 4: were the tougher team and they were one hundred torturing

457
00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:08,400
Speaker 4: my guy Vucci in the pick and roll. They would

458
00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:11,040
Speaker 4: just Doncic almost every single time would come up and

459
00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:13,520
Speaker 4: they would get Vouch into space, and it was kind

460
00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:18,359
Speaker 4: of either Doncic making a play or finding or just

461
00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:21,440
Speaker 4: going and scoring on Vouch as well. Jalen Brunson I

462
00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:22,919
Speaker 4: thought was really good as well, kind of being the

463
00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:25,800
Speaker 4: secondary attacker late in the UH late in the shot

464
00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:27,800
Speaker 4: clock for the Mavericks. You could tell the Bulls were

465
00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:31,800
Speaker 4: missing Alex cru So, Javonte Green, their best on ball defenders.

466
00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:36,000
Speaker 4: But great stuff from the MAVs. You know, Kleeber hit

467
00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:38,240
Speaker 4: six threes last night. I think they finished with sixteen

468
00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:41,240
Speaker 4: threes on the evening. That's how the MAVs win. They're

469
00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:44,080
Speaker 4: playing some defense right now. They're up to fifth in defense.

470
00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:46,960
Speaker 4: They've got six straight wins. They've won five of those

471
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Speaker 4: without Porzingis. They had wins last week against the Warriors,

472
00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:53,320
Speaker 4: and the Bulls. They're clicking a little bit right now.

473
00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:55,520
Speaker 4: You know, the offense might not be quite as good

474
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Speaker 4: as it was when they were the greatest offense in

475
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Speaker 4: NBA history a couple of years ago, but that was

476
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Speaker 4: all about making threes and now they're actually playing a

477
00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:04,760
Speaker 4: little bit of defense. On the other side, they're playing really,

478
00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:06,960
Speaker 4: really hard. So a couple of nice wins for the

479
00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:09,000
Speaker 4: Mads in the past couple of are in the past week.

480
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Speaker 2: Are you buying sort of this Mavericks little run here

481
00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:13,760
Speaker 2: and how they look the way Luca's playing and you know,

482
00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:16,080
Speaker 2: rounding into form here and with all these other contributions

483
00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:16,800
Speaker 2: like TCA.

484
00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:18,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, Luca's got one. He's that talent in the league

485
00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:21,320
Speaker 5: that he has the capability to drag his team to

486
00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:23,200
Speaker 5: beat anyone on any given night. And we saw that

487
00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:25,040
Speaker 5: against the Warriors and now against the Bulls. You know,

488
00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:27,399
Speaker 5: but he did get help from clebrand Josh Green, who

489
00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:30,080
Speaker 5: Josh Green. They've been waiting for him to sort of start,

490
00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:31,919
Speaker 5: and he had went back to back. Yeah, Friday night,

491
00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:33,719
Speaker 5: he was really good again against the Ruckets, but then

492
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Speaker 5: to do it in that game in a critical moment

493
00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:37,399
Speaker 5: two of that game there in that second half, I

494
00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:38,960
Speaker 5: thought he was really good. He hit a three and

495
00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:40,959
Speaker 5: he just got out and ran. And when you've got

496
00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:43,480
Speaker 5: Luka Doncice who's such a great passner and play maker,

497
00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:45,320
Speaker 5: that's what you have to do is just get out.

498
00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:47,880
Speaker 5: He'll find you and if you run towards the hoop,

499
00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:49,760
Speaker 5: that's where you're going to get chances to score. So

500
00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:54,040
Speaker 5: this has been certainly their most impressive stretch for Dallas.

501
00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:55,919
Speaker 5: You know, I have been on record saying that I

502
00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:58,680
Speaker 5: don't think their offense is all that convincing this season

503
00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:00,760
Speaker 5: because it seems just a bit of like just shoot

504
00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:03,199
Speaker 5: if you want. But when the ball moves around like

505
00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:05,440
Speaker 5: that and they get so many other guys contributing, they

506
00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:09,080
Speaker 5: are much better. And the defense is surprisingly high. It

507
00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:12,560
Speaker 5: doesn't feel like that's a great defensive team, but they

508
00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:15,080
Speaker 5: get it done, so credit to them for that. And yeah,

509
00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:17,879
Speaker 5: when you start putting a win streak together against good teams,

510
00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:19,960
Speaker 5: it does start to sort of change the narrative a

511
00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:24,040
Speaker 5: little bit. And for me, Donciic still looks like he's

512
00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:26,400
Speaker 5: he needs a little bit more relief as far as

513
00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:28,720
Speaker 5: they're playmaking. But when he's got the ball in his

514
00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:31,359
Speaker 5: hands in control like that, He's very, very hard to stop,

515
00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:33,720
Speaker 5: even though he's he's a kind of slow mo out there,

516
00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:35,359
Speaker 5: but he can still get that shot off, you know,

517
00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:39,360
Speaker 5: sort of uncontested a lot of times. It's deceptive, but yeah,

518
00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:41,360
Speaker 5: very happy for him, and just to see Josh Green

519
00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:42,880
Speaker 5: out there playing really good basketball.

520
00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, Dallas fifth right now in the Western Conference twenty

521
00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:47,240
Speaker 2: two and eighteen. You know, a couple wins ahead of

522
00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:50,160
Speaker 2: the Nuggets and then trailing like those Elite four sort

523
00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:52,520
Speaker 2: of ahead of them. You know, Grizzlies continue to build

524
00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:54,000
Speaker 2: the gap there between four and five. But what do

525
00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:54,800
Speaker 2: you think of the maps here?

526
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Speaker 3: Well, when you watch a defense in today's NBA, you

527
00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:00,320
Speaker 3: quite often say, I don't know, they a lot of

528
00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:03,320
Speaker 3: defensive players. They just don't have those defensive guys. But

529
00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:06,440
Speaker 3: it doesn't matter. You can still have a legit defense

530
00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:08,840
Speaker 3: if guys come together. And I think on the other side,

531
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Speaker 3: Kobe White could be a winner of the weekend for

532
00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:14,640
Speaker 3: the Chicago Bulls. He's a guy didn't start this year,

533
00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:16,960
Speaker 3: he was injured. He comes off the bench and he

534
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:21,119
Speaker 3: sees guys like Io de Sumu and Javonte Green and

535
00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:24,679
Speaker 3: their lead guards and Alex Caruso and Lonzo ball playing

536
00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,840
Speaker 3: incredible defense. Kobe White has never been a defender, but

537
00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,320
Speaker 3: he's playing so well on that end. And even the

538
00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:32,080
Speaker 3: Bulls as a whole, did we expect them to be

539
00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:34,719
Speaker 3: a good defense. No, but they figure it out. They

540
00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:37,440
Speaker 3: get this sort of mentality and they're great. We look

541
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Speaker 3: at you know, Bobby Ports with the Milwaukee Bucks playing

542
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:43,119
Speaker 3: center there. He was never a good defender. His feet

543
00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,280
Speaker 3: don't really move all that quickly on the defensive end,

544
00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,679
Speaker 3: but his hands have gotten better. And you can just

545
00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,320
Speaker 3: get better if you're around good defensive players and it's

546
00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:52,479
Speaker 3: rubbed off. So I think Kobe White's gotten a lot

547
00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:55,600
Speaker 3: smarter than his mass defense could get, you know, could

548
00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:59,040
Speaker 3: stay that way if they're you know, got it all together.

549
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:01,480
Speaker 3: So you look around the league and yeah, sometimes you

550
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:03,760
Speaker 3: got this rep I can't play defense. I mean, look

551
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,440
Speaker 3: at even the Lakers. I think they have a little

552
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 3: bit of hope with a guy like Malik Monk who

553
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:12,359
Speaker 3: is balling on the offensive end. And you look at

554
00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,480
Speaker 3: them last year, I mean, Dennis Shrewder was their lead

555
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,520
Speaker 3: guard on the best defense in the league. Russell Westbrook's

556
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:19,800
Speaker 3: been part of great defenses. So it's all about a mentality.

557
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,199
Speaker 3: Maybe the Lakers can turn around. It's all about just

558
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:24,920
Speaker 3: getting it all together. So, yeah, the MAVs have figured

559
00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:26,040
Speaker 3: out in that locker room, for sure.

560
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:29,680
Speaker 2: MAVs up to fifth with defensive rating. That's why wild

561
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:31,720
Speaker 2: you would think it'd be. They're like the middle of

562
00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,320
Speaker 2: the pack offense, and then yeah, fifth top five defense

563
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:36,199
Speaker 2: is pretty specially you think it would be the other

564
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:37,720
Speaker 2: way around. All right, take us home here, at least

565
00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:39,560
Speaker 2: for till we take our first break you have for all.

566
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Speaker 5: Well, just before the Christmas break, I had the Minnesota

567
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,439
Speaker 5: Timbules as a winner. I was buying. Yeah, last week

568
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:45,879
Speaker 5: I had them as a loser because they dropped a

569
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 5: few in a row. Well, I'm back in the win Colin.

570
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:49,479
Speaker 5: All right, I have won four in a row. But

571
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Speaker 5: why I've got them as a convincing winner is because

572
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:54,880
Speaker 5: of these four wins, not against great opposition, to be fair,

573
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:58,960
Speaker 5: Pelicans thunder twice and the Rockets, but they've pounded the opponent,

574
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,480
Speaker 5: and that to me has been what's missing from this

575
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:04,120
Speaker 5: team a lot throughout, you know, throughout Karl Anthony Towns

576
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,399
Speaker 5: of time, they don't just like step on the throat

577
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,240
Speaker 5: of their opponent. But last night, convincing eighteen point victory.

578
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:11,040
Speaker 5: They put up one hundred and forty again to see

579
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:13,479
Speaker 5: against the Rockets. They blew out the Thunder by thirty

580
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 5: prior to that, and then earlier in the week it

581
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:17,639
Speaker 5: was an eighteen point win against over the Clippers. That

582
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 5: to me is what needs to happen for this team now.

583
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 5: Towns was back for three of those games. You know,

584
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:24,679
Speaker 5: guys again were out protocol and things like that. But

585
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:27,160
Speaker 5: if if the Wolves are serious and they are five hundred,

586
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,640
Speaker 5: they're twenty and twenty. It feels like that's just where

587
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 5: they are right now. But I'm gonna say that's a

588
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,399
Speaker 5: good twenty and twenty for them right now because I

589
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 5: think they've got something to build on and I think

590
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:38,960
Speaker 5: they can improve that to be over five hundred by

591
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:40,639
Speaker 5: the end of the season. So I'm all in on

592
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Speaker 5: the Wolves. I'm hoping they make the playoffs, not just

593
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,960
Speaker 5: the plan. I hope they can, but I'm starting to

594
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 5: see improvement. I've been down this road before, boy. But again,

595
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:54,639
Speaker 5: the key difference here is they didn't scrape past the Rockets.

596
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 5: This was a convincing victory. They didn't scrape past the Thunder.

597
00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 5: They hammered them. So that is what I think is

598
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:04,159
Speaker 5: going to turn this team from just perennially up and

599
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 5: down into more than that.

600
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Speaker 4: There we go again. Yeah, they're gonna lose four of

601
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 4: their next set, almost guaranteed. Pelicans, Grizzlies, Warriors, Knicks, Hawks, Nets,

602
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 4: those are some losses in there, and that's how it

603
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 4: is with the timber Wolves. They'll win five straight, then

604
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 4: they'll lose five of seven, then they'll win four straight,

605
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,840
Speaker 4: then they'll lose four straight. But uh yeah, they're smoking

606
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:26,960
Speaker 4: the teams they should smoke. That's cool.

607
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,320
Speaker 5: I'm gonna stop next Monday's duck today and just put

608
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Speaker 5: them in.

609
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Speaker 3: Well. When they do have their guys, they are fairly

610
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 3: solid team. It's surprising to see D'Angel Russell. When he plays,

611
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 3: they're an above five hundred team and they're far below

612
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 3: five hundred when he doesn't play. And I think there's

613
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:49,200
Speaker 3: a trickle down effect there up down the roster. They're

614
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,360
Speaker 3: kind of a top heavy team. But if they have

615
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:56,399
Speaker 3: that solid starting lineup of pure offense, the Angel Russell,

616
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Speaker 3: Anthony Edwards and Karl Anthony Towns, with that sprinkling of defense,

617
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:03,879
Speaker 3: Patrick Beverly and Jared Vanderbilt, who had a near beef

618
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 3: for love that va Jared Vanderbilt goes after it defensively

619
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 3: is not over so it's not a big forward, but

620
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 3: he just gets after the boards. We'll get to the

621
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 3: real beefs later, but this was yeah, beyond meat beef

622
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,400
Speaker 3: if it was an impossible burger. I love that guy.

623
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:23,400
Speaker 3: When they again, they have enough defense with their offense.

624
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:27,119
Speaker 3: It's surprising to see Daniel Russell when he plays that

625
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,719
Speaker 3: they have a winning record, and I don't know if

626
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:31,680
Speaker 3: that if he stays healthy, does that mean that they're

627
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,199
Speaker 3: going to have a winning record this year. I don't know.

628
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 3: It's really hard to say with this team, but the

629
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:40,440
Speaker 3: numbers say when he plays, since he became a Minnesota

630
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,359
Speaker 3: Timberwolf when they traded Wiggins for him, they have a

631
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 3: winning record. But I don't know. I don't know.

632
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 2: If it keeps up, it could be the MVP of

633
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,399
Speaker 2: late Which is more surprising That the Mavericks are fifth

634
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 2: in defense or that the Timberwolves are ninth in defense.

635
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 4: That's unbelievable. Well, those are both wild. I'm not sure.

636
00:27:59,480 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 5: Mavericks.

637
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:01,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's been top five.

638
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,640
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, I'll have a tribute question for you before

639
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 2: we take our first break. I already I already asked

640
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 2: Trey because him and I were into the Classic Factory

641
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 2: early here. We like to have a pre coffee before

642
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 2: our shift, you know. But Towns had his tenth forty

643
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:20,160
Speaker 2: point game? Okay, who did he tie in Wolves franchise history?

644
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:22,439
Speaker 5: Okay?

645
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Speaker 4: Interesting? He would be correct. Kevin Up is the answer?

646
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 3: More points?

647
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean Trey wouldn't say Kevin Garnette.

648
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 2: I was testing him this morning, but then we were

649
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,199
Speaker 2: like thinking about it, like we went and checked how

650
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 2: many how many forty point games did get.

651
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it's crazy he yeah should shot more? Yeah

652
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:44,479
Speaker 5: he should could. Yeah.

653
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 4: Okay, Kevin Love is the correct answer.

654
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 3: Thanks. Yeah, well, I was also watching Kav's Warriors yesterday,

655
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 3: and yeah he was on the brain.

656
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 4: Kevin on the brain.

657
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 3: Got some keV on the brain.

658
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 4: There you go.

659
00:28:56,040 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess what was his highest point average?

660
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 5: Ok?

661
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 4: It's twenty four, twenty five?

662
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, i'mretty sure.

663
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 5: It always felt that he could have scored a little bit.

664
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 4: What do you think his career highest in a game?

665
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 5: Forty seven?

666
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 4: I believe that's absolutely correct.

667
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 2: I think you'll love the FactCheck and we'll take a

668
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 2: break find out whether these are crew facts or not.

669
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Speaker 2: But when we come back, we still have more weekend winners,

670
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 2: and then we'll get to a few losers and oh, Trey,

671
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 2: what you're gonna get to drop a tiny Southern lawyer

672
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 2: man on us. Don't go anywhere. I'll be right back,

673
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 2: all right back with no dunks. We got some more

674
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 2: NBA weekend winners here. I'm almost embarrassed that were nearly

675
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 2: what forty minutes into this podcast and we haven't mentioned

676
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 2: the Memphis Grizzlies, and more specifically John Morant's block Lee.

677
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 2: The other day he said, I think this guy's the

678
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 2: most athletic guy in the league. God damn, I'd like

679
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 2: to share.

680
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 4: Damn, you're right what a block JD.

681
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 2: I think you have it here for everybody joining us

682
00:29:56,800 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 2: on the stream team, the two handed pin on the

683
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 2: chase down block, every Bradley trying to get it up there.

684
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 2: I've watched this, I think about two hundred and fifty

685
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 2: times at this point. Every time I watch it, I'm

686
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 2: like that this is a video game.

687
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 4: This looks fake. It looks like space jam.

688
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 2: People are pointing out every angle you see it from

689
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 2: gets like crazier and crazier. It's unreally, this is one

690
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 2: of the greatest blocks in NBA history, and I don't

691
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 2: think that's exaggeration.

692
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 5: Not at all, because he gets to a point and

693
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 5: then he seems to go a little bit high. It's

694
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 5: almost like he's got an extra jump in him there somehow,

695
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 5: because he climbs and then you think okay, and then

696
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 5: it's just like he gets up even further and then

697
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 5: he almost injures himself because he's up so high on

698
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:45,040
Speaker 5: that backboard there, which is just incredible. I mean, if

699
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 5: he had taken that clean, it would have been even sexier.

700
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 5: I think back like bubble, yeah exactly, but he couldn't

701
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 5: because he was the backboard, so he ran into the backboard.

702
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 4: Yeah.

703
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 5: But in terms of like best blocks in NBA history,

704
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 5: that's easily got to be in the top three. I mean,

705
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 5: I can't. I'm sort of trying to think. I guess

706
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 5: Lebron's unegual dollar as far as the impact on the

707
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 5: game there, But as athletic athleticism goes that one, I

708
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 5: mean we're seeing the Michael Jordan one. He does that

709
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 5: when I think he's on the Wizards at the time.

710
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 5: Kenyon Martin does one as well, but none like that

711
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 5: where the guy is just like jumping literally out of

712
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 5: the gym.

713
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 2: It looks like he I mean, you guys take your

714
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 2: kids to these places where you can jump around on

715
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 2: these trampolines, right and throw down those It looks like

716
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 2: it's like slam ball there for a second, but he's

717
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 2: hit a trampoline.

718
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 4: How high he goes.

719
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 3: Said, above the box blocks has to be its own category.

720
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 3: He literally got above the box. When you know, the

721
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 3: baseline cam is a good angle. I'm a sideline cam fan. Though,

722
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 3: to see that the way that he cut up as

723
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 3: they struggle to say that, yeah, you just see him

724
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 3: above the box, that just doesn't happen very often. It

725
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 3: just it strictly doesn't. And so that conversation about who's

726
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 3: the most athletic player in the league came up a

727
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 3: few weeks ago because Zion Williamson was still ranked the

728
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 3: number one. I know it seems like years ago, but

729
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 3: he was the number one guy. What is athleticism, I

730
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 3: don't know. I don't know how to define it that is,

731
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 3: but that is a seeing it you see it. Yeah,

732
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 3: when a guy goes above the box, that's it in

733
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 3: another category of itself.

734
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, when you hit your armpit on the American flag

735
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 4: that's on the backboard. That could be one of the

736
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 4: definitions of athleticism. I think that this is on par s.

737
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 4: It's a on car with the lafonzo Ellis block, Yes,

738
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 4: which is a block that you remember nothing else about

739
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 4: except for that it was awesome and you never see

740
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 4: something like that. That's exactly what this is.

741
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 3: Like.

742
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 4: I could tell you zero percent of the factual information

743
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 4: about the lafonzo Ellis block. But he goes up with

744
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 4: one hand and he grabs it and comes down with

745
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 4: the one hand. Right. I'll never forget that. That's the

746
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 4: first thing I think of when I think of lafonzo Ellis.

747
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 4: This might not be the first thing we think of

748
00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 4: with John Morant, but it's gonna be on his career

749
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 4: highlight tape, doubt. Yeah.

750
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 2: I was trying to think of like other just super

751
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 2: memorable blocks. Obviously that elis one.

752
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 4: You said, the Lebron one, Yeah, no brainer. I'd say.

753
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 2: The only other one I can sort of think of

754
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 2: to add is Kawhi's finger block, right, which was pretty

755
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 2: just memorable because you don't see a guy block it

756
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 2: with his one giant digit.

757
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 5: There usually I mean the Taishan Prince Reggie is memorable

758
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 5: for what happened, but because of the actual no, not

759
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 5: the athleticism involved, more the moment in the game and

760
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 5: the playoffs there. But yeah, this I don't think we've

761
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 5: seen anything quite go viral defensively like this did on

762
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 5: Twitter yesterday, Like everyone just had it and all those

763
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 5: different angles were so cool as well, like just seeing

764
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 5: it and just seeing like, wow, this guy off two

765
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 5: feet to get up like that. Get him in the

766
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 5: dunk contest.

767
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 2: I hope you don't, No, I mean, this is the

768
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 2: this is the sad part of this whole thing here,

769
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 2: Like obviously the dunk he throws down, the athletic plays

770
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 2: like this.

771
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 4: He has said he's not doing it.

772
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 2: He told Taylor Rooks that he would maybe do it

773
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 2: for a million dollars, like if there was a million

774
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 2: dollar purse. But and then so then there was okay,

775
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 2: I know, I know, there was some home okay maybe

776
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:08,399
Speaker 2: and I was even thinking like, okay, this guy might

777
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 2: start the All Star Game. I mean he could, right,

778
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 2: It's very possible. Maybe as a thank you to the fans,

779
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,239
Speaker 2: and he goes in it. That happens from time to time. Right,

780
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:19,879
Speaker 2: some of these guys like make the All Star team

781
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,360
Speaker 2: and they say, okay, I'll go win whatever this event.

782
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,840
Speaker 2: But then I was getting ready to tweet something like that,

783
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:27,400
Speaker 2: and I was like, I better check to see if

784
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 2: anybody's asked him recently, and I saw, you know, basically

785
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 2: someone like come on, man, you gotta go in.

786
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:33,279
Speaker 4: And he shot it down.

787
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 5: He probably realized a million bucks, like we can put

788
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 5: to get that from the stream team, right, it's a

789
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:39,840
Speaker 5: million bucks, and say there you go, joh, there it is.

790
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 3: Man.

791
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:41,919
Speaker 5: If that's all it takes.

792
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:47,400
Speaker 4: It's unfortunate. And I'm not that's really smart. So this

793
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 4: was an unbelievable play.

794
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 2: Of course, that shows you already ten times during the

795
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 2: stream team and the Grizzlies, Man, they continue to win.

796
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:57,240
Speaker 2: They set a franchise record, franchise record ninth straight victory.

797
00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 2: I kept you by surprise a little bit. I've had

798
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 2: some good Grizzlies teams, not that good. Nine straight.

799
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:03,319
Speaker 5: I mean, I.

800
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 4: Guess that's pretty amazing. But they're awesome.

801
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 2: They beat the they did the rare beating the Clippers

802
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,319
Speaker 2: and the Lakers here in the back to back in

803
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 2: LA there over the weekend smash and are just yeah

804
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 2: and destroyed them. I mean, the Lakers made this crazy

805
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 2: run late and then the starters had to come back

806
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,839
Speaker 2: in for Memphis to close the door. But yeah, they

807
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 2: really hammered both these teams.

808
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,880
Speaker 3: You gotta love these young guys. I just adore them.

809
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,320
Speaker 3: You know, Desmond Bank getting in the face of Lebron James.

810
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 3: They do that year after year after year. They talk

811
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 3: at he talk, and now they are doing the walk

812
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:35,799
Speaker 3: of the walk. They're absolutely backing it up and they've

813
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 3: they did it when Andrea Goodala was quote unquote on

814
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:40,959
Speaker 3: their team and they traded him to the Miami Heat,

815
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 3: but Igodala said, you know, I want to I want

816
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 3: to play with a contender, And Dylan Brooks was quite

817
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 3: angry after Andrea Goodala said that, and they they they've

818
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:55,799
Speaker 3: they've got this this bravado about them there, they have

819
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 3: this this they feel like they're a contender. They make

820
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 3: themselves feel like they're contender. And now they're fourth in

821
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 3: the Western Conference and they continue to keep that fifth

822
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 3: place team at Bay. So yeah, maybe we haven't seen

823
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 3: a team in Memphis or Slash Vancouver ever win ten

824
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 3: straight games, but I really feel like we're going to

825
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 3: get a home court series in Memphis this year, and

826
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 3: that's a phenomenal accomplishment. And if Jos starts the All

827
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 3: Star Game, another phenomenal accomplishment for this tiny, tiny, small

828
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 3: market team to have a starter in the All Star Game.

829
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 3: Hopefully that happens for them. Feels a little, you know,

830
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 3: Vince Carter esque that you know, back in Toronto, those

831
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 3: Toronto days where he started four and five years. It's

832
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 3: not a small market, but it was. He was able

833
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 3: to transcend every big market. Vince was able to do that,

834
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 3: and Jow feels like he's doing that at this moment.

835
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:45,920
Speaker 3: Everybody's talking about jaw.

836
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:48,839
Speaker 2: I think what's wild from yesterday's game against the Lakers too,

837
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 2: is like we're talking about the jaw block and all

838
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:52,399
Speaker 2: that and how jaw dropping it is. But he didn't

839
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 2: have like a monster game. He didn't have like his

840
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:56,879
Speaker 2: thirty five to forty point game. It was desbon Bane. Yeah,

841
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,840
Speaker 2: twenty three points, hit five threes. Jared Jackson Junior is

842
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 2: on one right now, twenty one points yesterday, twelve for

843
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 2: six blocks. This guy's blocking everything and it's like Kyle

844
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 2: Anderson a good game fourteen eight and seven in you know,

845
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 2: under thirty minutes. Like, so it's all these guys. The

846
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:11,400
Speaker 2: vibes are immaculate.

847
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 4: With the squad.

848
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 2: I tweeted, it's true, like you start to see this time.

849
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 2: The more I watch them, the more I do go, Yeah,

850
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 2: they're gonna have home court. They could probably win a

851
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:22,320
Speaker 2: first round series. And then you start to talk yourself

852
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 2: into could they be like that weird team where it

853
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 2: breaks right for them where they could go to a

854
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 2: conference finals or something like that, But it would be

855
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:30,439
Speaker 2: an awesome team. They'd be playing in the second round

856
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:32,360
Speaker 2: if they even got there. So it's not easy. But

857
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:34,719
Speaker 2: I wouldn't want to play them right now, No.

858
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 5: Because they're young, they're athletic, and they do get out

859
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 5: there and make you defend. And Jaron Jackson good, I'm

860
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:41,800
Speaker 5: glad you brought him up because he started to rebound

861
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 5: a little bit more and defend. He's starting to play

862
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 5: a bit to his heart. They are going to miss

863
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 5: Dylan Brooks though he's out for the next sort of

864
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 5: month or so here and you don't have to love

865
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 5: Dylan Brooks, but I think he does bring some extra

866
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:54,360
Speaker 5: toughness for that team on both ends of the floor.

867
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 5: So hopefully they can get him back. But yeah, nine

868
00:37:57,120 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 5: in a row. Incredible turnaround for this team. They're just

869
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 5: looking great right now. I hope they can't keep it up.

870
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, they've creeped up to eleventh in defensive rating. At

871
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 2: one point they were the worst.

872
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 5: By a mile by a mile.

873
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:10,840
Speaker 2: And yeah, you pair that with a top five offense

874
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 2: that gets you a lot of victories, including nine straight.

875
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:15,759
Speaker 2: Do you believe in this Grizzlies team? Is just a

876
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:17,800
Speaker 2: feel good moment right now for this squad.

877
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 4: That's a feel good moment for the squad. I believe

878
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 4: in the long term, especially with the way Jaron Jackson

879
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 4: Junior's playing. We've seen John the playoffs already. He can

880
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 4: raise his game in the playoffs. And I think that

881
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 4: this era the Grizzlies is going to be a lot

882
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:31,800
Speaker 4: better than the GrITT and grind era ever was, because

883
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:34,360
Speaker 4: John Morant is better than any player that the Grizzlies

884
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 4: ever had back then that he's got a chance to

885
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:38,840
Speaker 4: win an MVP at some point in his career. Nobody

886
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 4: on the Grizzlies obviously did that, So I don't know

887
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 4: how far they will go this year. I think a

888
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:46,479
Speaker 4: home court advantage in the first round should be the goal.

889
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 4: Winning a playoff series should be a goal. After that,

890
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 4: everything else is great.

891
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 3: All right, Well, let's uh this team. They're way wise, whise,

892
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 3: beyond their years. Just the way they go to Los Angeles.

893
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 3: You spend like five days in LA and you win

894
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 3: two basketball games, should be humble. You should not be

895
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 3: winning two basketball games the way they did so triumphantly.

896
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 3: I mean they smashed.

897
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, both teams, Ye, Trey, who do you have to

898
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,360
Speaker 2: start wrapping up? Here are winners of the weekend.

899
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 4: A couple of mini winners. My first one the Indiana Pacers,

900
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:19,800
Speaker 4: our favorite team. They snapped a six game losing streak

901
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 4: against the Jazz on Saturday. That's nice to begin with.

902
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 4: Even more nice, it was actually fun to watch the Pacers.

903
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 4: A career high forty two points for Demonta Sabonis. More importantly,

904
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:35,800
Speaker 4: sixteen points, fourteen assists, and four steals for Lance born

905
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 4: Ready Stevenson. Bringing him to the Pacers has been the

906
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 4: best move of the Pacers in the past two years. Basically,

907
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 4: he's given them a lot of energy. They really need

908
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:48,760
Speaker 4: his juice. They need somebody who can make a play

909
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 4: with the ball in his hands, and they need somebody

910
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 4: to kind of give them, you know, a little bit

911
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 4: of a variance, a little bit of a risk out there.

912
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 4: They need somebody that's gonna go crazy. Lance Stevenson has

913
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 4: been going crazy. Got to ride him when he's on

914
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 4: a hot streak. Obviously that's happening right now, and the

915
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 4: Pacers seem like they're happening a little bit more fun.

916
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 4: So cool, yeah, cool for the Pacers to get that

917
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:15,320
Speaker 4: w forty two for Demonta Sabonis. It's almost Kevin Garnett's

918
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 4: career crazy. What do you think about it? That's his

919
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 4: career high, right, forty two. Yeah, that is his career high.

920
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 4: So nice stuff for the Pacers. Like you said, the Jazz,

921
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 4: they're not playing all their guys right now, so whatever.

922
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 4: And another mini winner. The Wizards got another tight win

923
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 4: last night. They barely beat the Magic. That's their fourth

924
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:35,760
Speaker 4: game in their last five that's been decided by three

925
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:39,280
Speaker 4: or fewer points. Every Wizard's game is closed. But more importantly,

926
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 4: we got beef jd rolled that beautiful beef footage.

927
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 6: Who ordered the big Beef boys go bear yok yokitch again.

928
00:40:56,000 --> 00:41:17,880
Speaker 6: Coup Hella yokitch again. Kyle kuzmaf that's a lot of

929
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 6: roast beef, which is rebounds.

930
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:30,799
Speaker 4: Wow, cous now you called this December eighth. December eighth podcast,

931
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:34,919
Speaker 4: Derek from Minneapolis wrote in to say, who's somebody that's

932
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 4: never had a beef that could get a beef? He

933
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:40,360
Speaker 4: thought it would be Jared Vanderbilt, who went for nineteen

934
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:42,719
Speaker 4: mos like I mentioned last night task and then yeah,

935
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 4: I said Kuzma, and I may have mentioned Montrez Harrel

936
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 4: as well, but I don't honestly remember that nonethe last

937
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:53,359
Speaker 4: first of Kuzma's career obviously twenty second big beef of

938
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:56,920
Speaker 4: the season, right on pace with Weggies twenty two. Weggies

939
00:41:57,480 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 4: hasn't been a Weggie for twelve days, however, so we're

940
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 4: pace for forty nine wedges forty nine big beefs. But yeah,

941
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:06,799
Speaker 4: great one for Kuzma. He's been hitting the glass. The

942
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 4: guy's the second most important player on the Wizards, so

943
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 4: if he's playing well, you're getting into some close games

944
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 4: and you might win some of them. But I love

945
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:15,840
Speaker 4: to see the beef.

946
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 3: First beef in the new studio as well. HiT's different,

947
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 3: just the kids say in the New Studio.

948
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 2: And that was like a super compilation because we were

949
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 2: like beef catching up here.

950
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:26,360
Speaker 3: So many layers of beef.

951
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it's like, what's that Montreal smoke meat sandwich

952
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 5: is just like beef on top of beef on top

953
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 5: of beef. That's what I felt like. That was my

954
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:37,879
Speaker 5: most enjoyable beef of the season though, seeing KU's do it, yeah,

955
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:39,799
Speaker 5: because you know you don't expect it. You know, you

956
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:41,840
Speaker 5: expect it from Rudy and you expect it from you know,

957
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:44,280
Speaker 5: your kitch. Soku's to go out there and get twenty

958
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 5: twenty two. He finished with, yeah, yeah, yeah, well done,

959
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:49,880
Speaker 5: And there was some good reband like fear is tough,

960
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:52,279
Speaker 5: not just like the ball just falling into him or

961
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 5: him tipping it like that. He was out there battling.

962
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 4: So what, I cous, are you really looking at the highlights?

963
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:00,799
Speaker 5: Yeah? Beginning sometimes, as you know, we look at them

964
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:02,479
Speaker 5: and it will be an ample and it just goes

965
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:04,720
Speaker 5: matches it. I'm like, that's a rebound.

966
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:06,720
Speaker 4: And I will say there are a lot of those.

967
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 4: Kuzma is twenty two where he is the only guy around.

968
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 4: I think Mobamba is allergic to beef. That guy has

969
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:16,320
Speaker 4: zero interest in being near the remounts.

970
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 5: Bomba.

971
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, they'll beef.

972
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 3: That's all in the edit, just like Survivor, it is

973
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:23,839
Speaker 3: all in the edd for sure. I know we're big

974
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 3: fans of the stat muse Twitter account, so don't answer

975
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:30,280
Speaker 3: if you saw this, But the first twenty five twenty

976
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:33,399
Speaker 3: in Washington Wizard's history since.

977
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:36,319
Speaker 5: Chris Wepa, Yeah wow, yeah, nice.

978
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:38,800
Speaker 3: Nineteen ninety seven. It's been a while. Only that's what

979
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 3: that was.

980
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 4: Why were you shaking your head?

981
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 5: No, well because I disgusted. I didn't see it, but

982
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 5: I just sometimes, you know, you ever think those things.

983
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:49,320
Speaker 5: I thought maybe it was like, I don't know, Rashid Wallace,

984
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 5: he played there for he had a cup of coffee there.

985
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 2: Maybe it was him, But all see what blast wanted

986
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 2: to do that stat Muse, though, I don't think they

987
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:58,840
Speaker 2: should be allowed to tweet positive things.

988
00:43:58,719 --> 00:43:59,879
Speaker 4: About Kyle Kuzma.

989
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 3: What did they do?

990
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 2: You don't remember? They were clowning on him and his

991
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:07,319
Speaker 2: giant sweater. I remember because he had worn that to

992
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:08,839
Speaker 2: the game. And I think the Wizards, you know, went

993
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 2: on to lose a couple in a row and they're like, oh,

994
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:13,839
Speaker 2: they haven't won the Wizards tennant one since Kuzma. War

995
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:16,800
Speaker 2: is a giant pink sweater. Now they're pro cuz the

996
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:22,239
Speaker 2: pro beefy.

997
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 3: Do you like the sweater? Some beef doesn't sit well

998
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:22,879
Speaker 3: with you? I get it.

999
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 2: Okay, let's take it home here with the winners test.

1000
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:27,320
Speaker 2: I know you got one more meeting. Yeah, my man,

1001
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:30,359
Speaker 2: my man. Wesley Matthews. You remember a couple of years

1002
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:32,720
Speaker 2: ago he was part of Milwaukee Bucks in the Bubble.

1003
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 2: He's part of that team. They obviously didn't win the title.

1004
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 2: The Lakers won the title, so then he went and

1005
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:40,279
Speaker 2: joined the Lakers. Following year Lakers did not win the

1006
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 2: title either, so he's missed out on a title. This year,

1007
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 2: he was sitting at home during training camp, didn't have

1008
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:48,800
Speaker 2: a team. December, got signed up by those Milwaukee Bucks

1009
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 2: and this weekend was given a guarantee on that contract.

1010
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 2: So great for Wesley Matthews. He's sort of filling in

1011
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 2: for that PJ. Tucker role or PJ Tucker left the

1012
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 2: team this offseason after you know, and that griny guy

1013
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 2: against Kevin Durant in the playoffs. And that's hopefully what

1014
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:07,320
Speaker 2: Wesley Matthews can do for this team if they play

1015
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:10,279
Speaker 2: the Brooklyn Nights in the playoffs. But just to be

1016
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 2: that sort of that guard out there to help out,

1017
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:15,720
Speaker 2: just get a little bit of you know, a defensive

1018
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 2: mindset on the perimeter there.

1019
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:20,239
Speaker 3: Because they could use him, and you know, he could

1020
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:23,719
Speaker 3: be the who was who else was the Denver guy,

1021
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:26,359
Speaker 3: the Denver guy who came over to Milwaukee, Tory Craig,

1022
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 3: you know, in that sort of role. So yeah, good

1023
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 3: for Wesley Matthews to join on and maybe he can

1024
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:33,759
Speaker 3: get himself a title here at thirty five years of age.

1025
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:35,720
Speaker 2: Will you post a photo of you and Wesley Matthews

1026
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 2: in an airport if he wins the title?

1027
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 3: I guess, I guess you have to. You know, Oh,

1028
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 3: this famous guy is doing something. What's the moment that

1029
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 3: I had with him?

1030
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1031
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 3: I mean everybody the best moment from Clay Thompson that

1032
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 3: was going around this weekend. Everybody posted, Yeah, I saw

1033
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 3: Lee post the okay see game of course and incredible.

1034
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 3: Did you see that one where Steph Curry pre game

1035
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 3: is so good? You know how Steph plays the sports pregame,

1036
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:06,440
Speaker 3: does his little thing. Well, he was being a field

1037
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 3: goal kicker, so he put the ball down, he did

1038
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:12,399
Speaker 3: his his backward five step two to the left, got

1039
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 3: already looking left, looking right, all of a sudden, Klay

1040
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:17,360
Speaker 3: Thompson grabs the ball from the floor and just shoots

1041
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:20,440
Speaker 3: it and what are you doing? And Clay said, what,

1042
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:22,359
Speaker 3: there's a ball there? I shot? He didn't he had

1043
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 3: no idea what Steph was doing. Classic Clay.

1044
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 5: Had you seen that before? Yeah? I hadn't seen it

1045
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 5: all that, which is surprising because it was from a

1046
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:31,279
Speaker 5: couple of years ago. I thought it would have been

1047
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 5: more memorable. But it was great because Steph's kind of

1048
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 5: laughing away and Klay's just sort of looking around like, well, well,

1049
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 5: I didn't say anything, Seaball.

1050
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 4: Shoot ball exactly.

1051
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:39,839
Speaker 6: All right.

1052
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 2: Losers of the NBA weekend, I know we don't have

1053
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 2: as many, but Trey, who's at the top of your list?

1054
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 4: Well, another tough weekend for the Portland Trail Blazers. They

1055
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:51,799
Speaker 4: lost to the Cavs on Friday. Did get a win

1056
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 4: against the Kings on Sunday, thirty one points for Anthony

1057
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:58,720
Speaker 4: Simon's at seven threes. That's nice. However, the Trail Blazers

1058
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 4: are five and fifteen their last twenty games. They're down

1059
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:04,320
Speaker 4: to eleventh in the West. They haven't had Dame Lillard

1060
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:06,959
Speaker 4: for their last four games. He's out tonight, a home

1061
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,400
Speaker 4: game against the Nets, and there was news over the

1062
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:11,719
Speaker 4: weekend that he's not going to be traveling with the

1063
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:14,760
Speaker 4: Blazers on their six game road trip they've got starting

1064
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:17,720
Speaker 4: this week, so he's going to be missing time. Larry

1065
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 4: Nance didn't play yesterday. CJ. McCollum is due to be

1066
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 4: reevaluated for his collapse long this week, so we're not

1067
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 4: sure when he'll be back. They're really struggling, as they

1068
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 4: have been for this entire season. Dame has been a

1069
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:33,320
Speaker 4: little bit better in this second stint here after he

1070
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 4: missed time with his abdomen injury earlier in the year,

1071
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 4: but with him going out now, with McCollum still being out,

1072
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:42,400
Speaker 4: and with the team really really struggling, it definitely feels

1073
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 4: like it's time for trades. The last time Lillard went

1074
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 4: out of the lineup, we heard about the Neil Olsha investigation.

1075
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:50,719
Speaker 4: Eventually he was fired. I wouldn't be surprised if we

1076
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:53,959
Speaker 4: get some news Portland Trailblazer wise here as we're getting

1077
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:55,839
Speaker 4: a little bit closer to the trade deadline. We've got

1078
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:59,360
Speaker 4: about a month until then. So the team, they're not

1079
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 4: doing well well. Everybody's out. It feels like the end

1080
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:05,880
Speaker 4: for the Blazers. Obviously, Lillard's gonna be sticking around to

1081
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:09,240
Speaker 4: get that next big contract. But I think we're gonna

1082
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:12,360
Speaker 4: start finally hearing about trades with the Portland Trail Blazers.

1083
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:14,839
Speaker 4: It's gotta be time. I mean, Jason Quick is now

1084
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 4: measuring the team from the bottom rather than from the top.

1085
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:20,400
Speaker 4: Right when you see somebody as the eighth Worths record,

1086
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 4: that's worse than hearing that they're in eleventh place.

1087
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:22,919
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1088
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:24,719
Speaker 2: The weird part, of course, though, as they're tied with

1089
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:27,399
Speaker 2: the Spurs for the playing Yeah, that's but you're right.

1090
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 4: I mean, it's been a brutal season.

1091
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:32,400
Speaker 2: You think we'll start hearing some more Blazer's rumors like

1092
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:33,840
Speaker 2: kick back up when it comes to trades and.

1093
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 4: Will that include Lillard is the massive question. We think

1094
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:36,920
Speaker 4: it will.

1095
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:39,799
Speaker 3: Well, if I'm CJ McCollum, I say not coming back

1096
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 3: to play. I don't want to be traded. If he

1097
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:44,880
Speaker 3: doesn't want to be traded, he's got to show that

1098
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 3: he's healthy before he gets dealt. But at the same time, yeah,

1099
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:51,759
Speaker 3: the Blazers, as dire as it seems right now, the

1100
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:53,959
Speaker 3: inclusion of the play in term is Hey, they could

1101
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:57,840
Speaker 3: easily get Lillard back after this road trip, or get c. J.

1102
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:00,719
Speaker 3: McCollum back during this road trip and be a more

1103
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:03,319
Speaker 3: respectable team. Now, they stink on the road, so they're

1104
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 3: likely to drop many of those games on the road.

1105
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:09,360
Speaker 3: But I don't think the tenth place team currently the

1106
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:12,440
Speaker 3: Spurs are nine games under five hundred, and they're, you know,

1107
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 3: in a technical tie with the Spurs. Of Blazers are

1108
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:17,919
Speaker 3: are going to run away with anything, so they could Yeah,

1109
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:19,799
Speaker 3: they could lose, but there's there's there's a bunch of

1110
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 3: teams at the bottom. It's it's Sacramento, it's the Pelicans

1111
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 3: if they get Zion back and themselves, I think in

1112
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 3: the Blazers that have a legitimate shot at that tenth spot.

1113
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 3: And then we're all saying I'd love to see Dame

1114
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:33,359
Speaker 3: in the play in tournament. He could win a game

1115
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 3: on his own. So yes, uh, I mean we could

1116
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 3: get that trade talk for sure if they want to

1117
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:41,680
Speaker 3: blow it up. But they also could easily make the play.

1118
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:42,400
Speaker 4: In silver Lining.

1119
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 2: As Simons is bawling right now, this guy is on

1120
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:49,840
Speaker 2: fire from three three point. Yeah, maybe as possible, though

1121
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:52,279
Speaker 2: they were like they were hesitant to trade them for

1122
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:53,759
Speaker 2: the last couple of years, right because they.

1123
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, they traded them two years ago, but they should

1124
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:57,719
Speaker 4: have traded them last year and they should probably trade

1125
00:49:57,760 --> 00:49:59,920
Speaker 4: them again now. It should be tank time to be

1126
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 4: quite honest, for the Blazers if they want to have

1127
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:04,360
Speaker 4: any chance of improving while Damian Lillard is still around,

1128
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:06,360
Speaker 4: if he's going to be there for another couple of years,

1129
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:09,240
Speaker 4: you can't just keep running Simon's and McCollum and Nurkic

1130
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 4: out there. So I think it's time to kind of

1131
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:14,400
Speaker 4: go into the tank. I know their pick is protected,

1132
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:16,319
Speaker 4: it goes to the bulls any of like the next

1133
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 4: four years, but it's top fourteen protected, which seems pretty

1134
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 4: safe right now. But you don't want to pick number thirteen.

1135
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 4: You know, it'd be nice to pick number three if

1136
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:26,720
Speaker 4: you're Portland.

1137
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:28,759
Speaker 3: And Simon's has some trade values. There aren't a lot

1138
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:30,839
Speaker 3: of guys that have juicy trade value. You could see

1139
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 3: Robert Covington going to a contender to what kind of

1140
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:35,839
Speaker 3: pick does he warrant? Yeah, they don't have a lot

1141
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 3: of tradeable assets unless you're getting too the big eies.

1142
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, unless get into the big names.

1143
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 5: Lee who, Well, let's keep the trade talk going because

1144
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 5: I think it's that time for the Atlanta Hawks as well.

1145
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:48,200
Speaker 5: They have been disgusting on offense. Now you want to

1146
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 5: know what offense is beats what good offense? You know

1147
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:53,840
Speaker 5: what good offense beats good Defenseah, but you know what,

1148
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 5: it doesn't beat the horrible, horrible defense, because the Hawks

1149
00:50:57,160 --> 00:50:59,880
Speaker 5: had the third highest offensive riding in the league according

1150
00:50:59,880 --> 00:51:02,440
Speaker 5: to NBA dot com. Defensively though, fourth.

1151
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:03,279
Speaker 4: Was do you trust?

1152
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, trust but is the big wig there? So

1153
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 5: of course I trust it. But it's just so deceptive

1154
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:12,840
Speaker 5: when you watch the Hawks. The Lakers put up one

1155
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 5: hundred and thirty four against them, and then the Clippers yesterday,

1156
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:17,719
Speaker 5: who were again without Paul George, they're struggling. They just

1157
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:20,680
Speaker 5: scored easily easily against him. So I think for the

1158
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:23,799
Speaker 5: Atlanta Hawks. And Travis Schlenk has been on the radio saying, yep,

1159
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:27,040
Speaker 5: things have to change here and mark Stein also reported

1160
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 5: that the Atlanta Hawks are potentially looking at getting involved

1161
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:34,439
Speaker 5: in the ben Yes, yes, yeah, because my interest because

1162
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 5: we were talking about months ago it's being a sort

1163
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 5: of a team maybe under the radar a little bit

1164
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 5: that could get involved. Now I think they've got I

1165
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 5: think Cam Reddish is someone who the Sixers could be interested.

1166
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 5: Not alone. There's going to be more because they would

1167
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:48,359
Speaker 5: need Obviously, Trey Young and John Collins are not going

1168
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 5: to be traded, but I think everyone else is pretty

1169
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 5: much available. DeAndre Hunter, I mean, I think he's a

1170
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:55,239
Speaker 5: good player, but what sort of value does he have

1171
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:57,759
Speaker 5: right now? He's always injured. Yeah, I mean he can.

1172
00:51:57,800 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 5: He can be a three and D guy. He can

1173
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 5: be good. He was great against the Nicks in the playoffs.

1174
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:02,799
Speaker 5: You just don't know how often you're going to get

1175
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:04,239
Speaker 5: him out there. So I think cam Reddish is one

1176
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 5: of those guys the Hawks are prepared to move on

1177
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 5: if they can maybe dump like Gallinari's contract in there

1178
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:11,279
Speaker 5: as well, They'll do something like that because it's so

1179
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 5: big that could help them get going there. So the

1180
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 5: Hawks have to do something though, because this season is

1181
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:19,120
Speaker 5: honestly drifting away from them. Seventeen and twenty two right now,

1182
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:20,839
Speaker 5: out of the play in game and a half back

1183
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:23,840
Speaker 5: of the Celtics in tenth and it's just getting worse,

1184
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 5: it really is. I Mean, they two and four on

1185
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 5: their last road trip and one of the wins was

1186
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:31,480
Speaker 5: against the King Does that count not really, But then

1187
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 5: you know, just talking about the Grizzly's going to play

1188
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 5: the Clippers and the Lakers, Well, the Hawks had the

1189
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:39,959
Speaker 5: opposite that playing Lakers and the Clippers and lost both

1190
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 5: of them pretty badly. So that just shows you, I think.

1191
00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:44,600
Speaker 5: You know, obviously, Trey Young I think has had a

1192
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:48,239
Speaker 5: good season individually, but he can't there's just no one

1193
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 5: out there helping him right now. And this is the

1194
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:52,720
Speaker 5: team I had high hopes for, but instead it's panic

1195
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:55,800
Speaker 5: time almost there for the Hawks. They need a big change.

1196
00:52:55,920 --> 00:53:00,160
Speaker 5: Ben Simmons would certainly address help to address their defensive

1197
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 5: issues on the perimeter.

1198
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:04,440
Speaker 2: So I think Trey Young with Ben Simmons is a

1199
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:06,800
Speaker 2: fascinating sort of backcourt rumble.

1200
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:07,880
Speaker 4: Like I get very.

1201
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:09,840
Speaker 2: Intrigued by that, But yeah, what would it take to

1202
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:12,040
Speaker 2: get involved in the Bens Tree doesn't necessarily mean it's

1203
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 2: like a you know, just Sixers Hawks trade like Rostein

1204
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:16,279
Speaker 2: was saying, It's like they could just get into it

1205
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 2: and then it's a freeway or a four way deal.

1206
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:23,360
Speaker 3: Even you're excited about the Ben Simmons Trey backcourt potential.

1207
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 4: I would love Simmons alongside Trey Young. It would be

1208
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 4: the Atlanta Hawks version of Steph Curry and Draymond Green

1209
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 4: really is what the basis would be in Travis slank

1210
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 4: is obviously got the Warriors pedigree. I think it's a

1211
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:38,560
Speaker 4: perfect fit, and I think it really I mean, if

1212
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:40,839
Speaker 4: you could get somehow do it for Cam Reddish and

1213
00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 4: Denilo Gallinari, that's an easy yes for me.

1214
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:46,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I think it would be more than that.

1215
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:49,400
Speaker 4: I would trade picks too, Yeah, I would trade. I

1216
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:51,920
Speaker 4: would trade Herder. I would trade almost all of the

1217
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:54,360
Speaker 4: wing guys on the Hawks for Ben Simmons. Would you

1218
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:54,719
Speaker 4: as well?

1219
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:57,359
Speaker 5: For the most part, Yeah, I think if if they

1220
00:53:57,360 --> 00:54:00,719
Speaker 5: would take Reddish and Hunter, which be because those two

1221
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:03,799
Speaker 5: guys were drafted together, then yeah, I think you would

1222
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 5: do that. I think Kevin that still gives them something.

1223
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:10,560
Speaker 5: But if that's he wouldn't hold up the deal, I think, okay, yeah,

1224
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 5: that's what okay. I mean as far as the fit,

1225
00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:15,759
Speaker 5: I still find it somewhat awkward there because Simmons needs

1226
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:17,799
Speaker 5: a ball in his hands and Trey Young has the

1227
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 5: ball in his hands. But again that's a problem I

1228
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:22,800
Speaker 5: would worry about if he can just improve your defense

1229
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:26,600
Speaker 5: immediately like that, because they're honestly not going anywhere right now.

1230
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:29,360
Speaker 5: While they can't stop bad teams from scoring.

1231
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:32,120
Speaker 3: Right It's like we're going back to two years ago

1232
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:35,920
Speaker 3: with Tree Young. We had this little Cinderella season where

1233
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:37,400
Speaker 3: they go to the conference finals last year, but two

1234
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 3: years ago Tree was talking about getting some help in there,

1235
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:44,000
Speaker 3: and it seems like he's implying that as well. Chris

1236
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:47,279
Speaker 3: Kershner of The Athletic asked him about his mindset, and

1237
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 3: Trey with an interesting comment. Part of his quote was,

1238
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:53,600
Speaker 3: I don't know how to answer that question. I think

1239
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:57,520
Speaker 3: that stays between myself and myself, and you.

1240
00:54:57,480 --> 00:54:59,920
Speaker 4: Know, elaborate it leaks from him.

1241
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 3: Maybe he did elaborate, you know, saying like, you know,

1242
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:05,840
Speaker 3: we could turn this thing around, like he keeps saying,

1243
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:07,719
Speaker 3: you know, last year we're fourteen and twenty, we went

1244
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:11,720
Speaker 3: to the conference finals. But I think he is implying,

1245
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:14,759
Speaker 3: like we're implying, here, get me a second start. And

1246
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:19,520
Speaker 3: I don't think John Collins is necessarily that guy. And yeah, unfortunately,

1247
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:23,240
Speaker 3: you know I thought that somehow, this little, this little

1248
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 3: triumvirate of wings in Bogdan and Cam Reddish and DeAndre Hunter,

1249
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:30,440
Speaker 3: Kevin Herder a side, he's he's your bench, he's your

1250
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 3: bench angel like they those guys I thought would be

1251
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:34,959
Speaker 3: able to do it by committee. But I think he's saying,

1252
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:38,359
Speaker 3: get me a number two. But the funny thing is

1253
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:40,840
Speaker 3: they are number two on offense and twenty eighth on defense.

1254
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:43,239
Speaker 3: It's just it's like that locker room isn't together. For

1255
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:46,480
Speaker 3: some reason. You thought that before the season, skeets that

1256
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:49,279
Speaker 3: that's that was a Cinderella type of run on that

1257
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:50,000
Speaker 3: maybe they come.

1258
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:51,360
Speaker 2: Back to a little too high when it came to

1259
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:52,920
Speaker 2: the Hawks, Like I was about to ask you, well,

1260
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:55,360
Speaker 2: who's had the more disappointing season the Blazers of the Hawks?

1261
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:55,800
Speaker 5: Folks?

1262
00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:58,640
Speaker 2: You think the Hawks, But then again you were higher

1263
00:55:58,640 --> 00:55:59,640
Speaker 2: on them coming in the here than I.

1264
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:02,960
Speaker 5: That's why, Yeah, I wasn't as high on the Blazers

1265
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:04,839
Speaker 5: because it's kind of like we've seen it before. We

1266
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:07,040
Speaker 5: know how the season is going to play out. The Hawks,

1267
00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:10,479
Speaker 5: they got me got down at the fortress there, they.

1268
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:12,880
Speaker 2: Got you buy in like standing room only too exactly

1269
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:14,160
Speaker 2: how much fun was that?

1270
00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:16,239
Speaker 5: I mean, Trey Young. The only time the Bucks lost

1271
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:18,399
Speaker 5: in the playoffs last year at home was Game one

1272
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:20,360
Speaker 5: when Trey Young lit him up, and I'm like sold

1273
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:22,200
Speaker 5: he's my MVP next season.

1274
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:25,440
Speaker 4: He did take respect.

1275
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:28,160
Speaker 2: Well, that's a question for the stream team. Who's had

1276
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:30,240
Speaker 2: a more disappointing season? Is it the Blazers of the Hawks?

1277
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:32,319
Speaker 2: And what do you think about a Ben Simmons, you know,

1278
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:34,280
Speaker 2: pairing with Trey Young? Should they get involved?

1279
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:37,040
Speaker 3: You know, let us know surprising? It is surprising. I

1280
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:39,759
Speaker 3: think I would say the Hawks as well, thinking that

1281
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:41,399
Speaker 3: they'd find a way.

1282
00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:43,880
Speaker 5: But you were sipping on those pironis with me.

1283
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:50,479
Speaker 3: I remember, weake me up when the season ends because

1284
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:53,120
Speaker 3: I'm not sure what's going on with this Hawks team.

1285
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 3: What's more surprising? Though you said that Travis Slank, Hawks

1286
00:56:57,080 --> 00:56:59,600
Speaker 3: executive was talking on the radio about it. You still

1287
00:56:59,600 --> 00:56:59,880
Speaker 3: listen to.

1288
00:56:59,880 --> 00:57:03,000
Speaker 5: The no I saw a tweet about that. I've seen

1289
00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:05,640
Speaker 5: Travish schlink At walking his dog a few times when

1290
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:08,000
Speaker 5: we crossed paths a little not to each other.

1291
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:11,239
Speaker 4: Does he wear cowboy boots? I know I've seen him

1292
00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:13,400
Speaker 4: wearing cowboy boots like around.

1293
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:18,440
Speaker 3: We were at a game in the boots.

1294
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:21,800
Speaker 4: It's like the Alfonso Ellis block. The first thing I

1295
00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:23,480
Speaker 4: think Travish Slank.

1296
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:26,120
Speaker 5: Is his boots. He wears that old you remember that

1297
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:29,120
Speaker 5: soccer style jersey the Hawks had. Yeah, you know he

1298
00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:31,720
Speaker 5: was that with the big Atlanta written across it there. Yeah,

1299
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:34,120
Speaker 5: so well he has the who are the who.

1300
00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:35,720
Speaker 2: Are the first three or four people you think of

1301
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 2: when I say Cowboy Boots.

1302
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:45,760
Speaker 5: Travis, Matt Austin and who.

1303
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:52,120
Speaker 2: Trey helped set up this little news information we had

1304
00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 2: that happened over the weekend.

1305
00:57:55,520 --> 00:58:02,640
Speaker 4: We got all sales a tray up the news information tiny.

1306
00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:05,960
Speaker 2: On Sunday, the Pistons acquired seven foot two that guy's

1307
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:08,840
Speaker 2: not tiny, Bull Bowl in a trade with the Nuggets

1308
00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:11,960
Speaker 2: for Rodney Magruder and a twenty twenty two second round

1309
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:13,880
Speaker 2: pick by way of the Brooklyn Nets.

1310
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:16,600
Speaker 4: Yes, okay, not a blockbuster task, but.

1311
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:19,640
Speaker 2: The Pistons taking a bit of a flyer here, maybe

1312
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:22,280
Speaker 2: on Bull Bull, who was really just not in the

1313
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:24,600
Speaker 2: rotation at all for the Denver Nuggets, whether they had

1314
00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:27,280
Speaker 2: guys out due to you know, health and safety protocols

1315
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:29,400
Speaker 2: or injury. He was not getting a lot of burn.

1316
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:32,720
Speaker 2: In fact, I saw Pelton right in his article. Since

1317
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:35,960
Speaker 2: December twenty eighteen, Bowl has played just four hundred and

1318
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 2: eighty two minutes of competitive game action, three hundred and

1319
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:41,240
Speaker 2: twenty eight with Denver and then one hundred and fifty

1320
00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:41,560
Speaker 2: four in.

1321
00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:42,120
Speaker 4: The G League.

1322
00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:43,840
Speaker 2: So again we didn't see a lot of them. But

1323
00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:46,880
Speaker 2: do you like the Pistons, like, you know, taking a

1324
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:49,640
Speaker 2: chance on him. He's gonna be a free agent, a

1325
00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:50,880
Speaker 2: restricted free agent this summer.

1326
00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:54,560
Speaker 3: I guess yeah. If you're zooming out and you're saying, hey,

1327
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:58,560
Speaker 3: we're rebuilding, why not We talked about potentially Marvin Bagley

1328
00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:00,640
Speaker 3: of the Sacramento Kings when he was unquote on the

1329
00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:02,680
Speaker 3: block for a while. Why don't the Pistons go try

1330
00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:04,720
Speaker 3: and get him? I get it, but you do want

1331
00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:06,440
Speaker 3: to win basketball games. And I think Dwayne Casey is

1332
00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:08,120
Speaker 3: their head coach, isn't going to play Bull Bul just

1333
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:11,880
Speaker 3: because he's fascinating to watch out there, and all us

1334
00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:14,680
Speaker 3: Sikos are really excited to watch Bull Bull play. More,

1335
00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:18,040
Speaker 3: if he's not contributing to a winning situation, then he's

1336
00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:20,760
Speaker 3: not going to play. And I think just as a whole,

1337
00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:25,120
Speaker 3: Kate Cunningham and the guys who are looking like they

1338
00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:28,680
Speaker 3: are long term NBA players, like Sidik Bay and Isaiah Stewart,

1339
00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:31,560
Speaker 3: they want to win, and so you can't just do

1340
00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:33,360
Speaker 3: this year in and year out. Yeah, maybe for a

1341
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:36,720
Speaker 3: little stretch here, sure, give it a try, but he's

1342
00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:39,480
Speaker 3: got to be better, I think, on both ends than

1343
00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:40,720
Speaker 3: what we've seen in those limited minute.

1344
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:42,360
Speaker 2: He's going to get a chance to see if he

1345
00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 2: can prove it to the Pistons or at least the

1346
00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:45,520
Speaker 2: rest of the league if he's an actual player.

1347
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:47,200
Speaker 4: What do you think, Tike? If he can't do it

1348
00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:49,280
Speaker 4: with the Pistons, he can't do it because there should

1349
00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:52,840
Speaker 4: be the opportunity there. We've seen Seku Dumbuya have great

1350
00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:55,600
Speaker 4: games with the Pistons late in the season. Obviously that

1351
00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:57,640
Speaker 4: never turned into something. Even though we were all talking

1352
00:59:57,640 --> 00:59:58,520
Speaker 4: about Seku.

1353
00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:01,320
Speaker 3: Dumbuya like one min, I got to learn that name.

1354
01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:03,760
Speaker 4: Personally, I'm not going to put any stock in anything

1355
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:06,640
Speaker 4: that ball Ball does this season. And I think that

1356
01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:09,120
Speaker 4: the Nuggets actually won this trade because right in mcgrudor

1357
01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:11,240
Speaker 4: might play for their team a little bit. Ball just

1358
01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:13,120
Speaker 4: can't stay on the court. He's not good enough to

1359
01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:15,480
Speaker 4: play in the NBA. He's the next fan maker. Maybe

1360
01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:17,120
Speaker 4: what did you do when you heard this trade go

1361
01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:18,800
Speaker 4: down on Sunday? Behindest with me?

1362
01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:23,760
Speaker 5: What did I do? I don't really remember what I did,

1363
01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:29,520
Speaker 5: but I am hopeful. I'm optimistic ball I am I

1364
01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:33,080
Speaker 5: sort of I want him to succeed. I still remember

1365
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:36,640
Speaker 5: in the Bubble. It was in the warm up games

1366
01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:39,800
Speaker 5: and he drops this incredible bounce pass in transition and

1367
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:41,919
Speaker 5: I'm like, oh my god, that due complain. We've seen

1368
01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:44,120
Speaker 5: him hit the step back threes and it's like, Okay,

1369
01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:44,880
Speaker 5: there's something there.

1370
01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:45,400
Speaker 6: What is it?

1371
01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:49,680
Speaker 2: The ball Bubble was his highlights so far of his career.

1372
01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:51,760
Speaker 5: And that was that was the warm up games as well.

1373
01:00:53,240 --> 01:00:56,440
Speaker 5: But obviously, yeah, Mike Malone didn't really believe in him

1374
01:00:57,120 --> 01:01:00,480
Speaker 5: the Nuggets. He had enough opportunity or Tom I'm there

1375
01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:03,320
Speaker 5: to try to prove something. Sometimes you just need a

1376
01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:05,959
Speaker 5: new situation and a new coach. We I think Trey

1377
01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:09,120
Speaker 5: mentions a good point there in Detroit, they may as

1378
01:01:09,120 --> 01:01:11,439
Speaker 5: well plaim if they get some. They got that, they've

1379
01:01:11,480 --> 01:01:13,080
Speaker 5: got the sort of team where they're not going anywhere

1380
01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:16,440
Speaker 5: right now, take a fly and see what he can do. Yeah,

1381
01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:19,440
Speaker 5: but it's probably not looking all that good for him

1382
01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:20,840
Speaker 5: so far, which is disappointing.

1383
01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:22,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't mind this move for the Pistons here

1384
01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:25,800
Speaker 2: because he's he has shown flashes where you're like, well,

1385
01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:28,560
Speaker 2: you get excited because the guy that's seven foot two

1386
01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:29,640
Speaker 2: to make these plays.

1387
01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:30,920
Speaker 4: And it's an incredible hand exactly.

1388
01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:32,800
Speaker 2: You can shoot a little bit like his father obviously,

1389
01:01:33,720 --> 01:01:34,840
Speaker 2: and it didn't class yet time.

1390
01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:36,200
Speaker 4: I'm with you, Trey.

1391
01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:38,600
Speaker 2: I like the Nuggets decision here to move off him,

1392
01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:40,200
Speaker 2: get a guy that can help maybe on the perimeter.

1393
01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:43,760
Speaker 2: You know, they get a second round pick too. That's

1394
01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:46,120
Speaker 2: just helps in terms of building your roster because you've

1395
01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:47,880
Speaker 2: got a lot of money unfortunately into like Michael Porter

1396
01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:49,520
Speaker 2: Junior and your other big names there, so you might

1397
01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:51,880
Speaker 2: need some of those guys making nothing and you find

1398
01:01:51,880 --> 01:01:56,520
Speaker 2: somebody with the fifty sixth pick that sticks around. But yeah, see,

1399
01:01:57,200 --> 01:01:59,680
Speaker 2: we'll see here. Maybe I'm excited for people that love

1400
01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:01,400
Speaker 2: ball Bowl at least because there are.

1401
01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:05,080
Speaker 4: The He's the anti Lafonzo Ellis. We remember one play

1402
01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:08,400
Speaker 4: from Lafonzoe Ellis's career. We remember every play Bull Bull

1403
01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:11,240
Speaker 4: has made it like everything that you've talked about. Yeah,

1404
01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:13,640
Speaker 4: I totally remember that, and I think that that's probably

1405
01:02:13,640 --> 01:02:16,040
Speaker 4: every basket he's made in the NBA. The guy just

1406
01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:19,040
Speaker 4: I don't know. The reports out of Denver are not

1407
01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:23,640
Speaker 4: great about Bull Bull, and they've been so banged up

1408
01:02:23,640 --> 01:02:25,320
Speaker 4: and he can't get on the court for them. That's

1409
01:02:25,360 --> 01:02:28,240
Speaker 4: what I'm like, what's the future here? He's cool, he's

1410
01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:31,000
Speaker 4: seven foot two. We know about his dad. It is

1411
01:02:31,040 --> 01:02:33,080
Speaker 4: awesome to see a guy that tall and skinny handling

1412
01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:36,360
Speaker 4: the ball. You could see a Yannis there. He ain't Honis.

1413
01:02:36,560 --> 01:02:39,840
Speaker 4: He doesn't have the honest heart. Sorry about your computer.

1414
01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:45,120
Speaker 2: I heard some people wonder if the Pistons made this

1415
01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:47,760
Speaker 2: move getting bull bull in here. Give him some minutes,

1416
01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:49,160
Speaker 2: give him a chance to play with some of these

1417
01:02:49,160 --> 01:02:52,960
Speaker 2: other young guys as like a precursor to the possibility

1418
01:02:53,080 --> 01:02:57,959
Speaker 2: of drafting chet Walker. This is sorry, not check choose

1419
01:02:58,040 --> 01:03:02,160
Speaker 2: chet Walker artist. Maybe he was a player, he was

1420
01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:04,800
Speaker 2: an athlete of some sort. Chet holdgrins. Excuse me? Yeah,

1421
01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:08,120
Speaker 2: the giant skinny guy. Uh, that's like next level thinking.

1422
01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:10,880
Speaker 2: They're like, well, this guy could maybe sort of replicate that.

1423
01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:13,280
Speaker 2: Let's see how it works with our you know, our

1424
01:03:13,600 --> 01:03:15,919
Speaker 2: sneak bays and Arcade Cunninghams.

1425
01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:17,960
Speaker 4: And our and our beef stews. That's that's wild. That's

1426
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:18,360
Speaker 4: the case.

1427
01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:21,640
Speaker 3: I'm like that cookies opener at the top of our show,

1428
01:03:21,720 --> 01:03:24,000
Speaker 3: the guy talking about cookies. I don't know what language

1429
01:03:24,040 --> 01:03:26,960
Speaker 3: you are speaking right now, Well I do, I just

1430
01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:33,680
Speaker 3: don't know what that all. I heard that the Nuggets

1431
01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:36,920
Speaker 3: acquired Ronnie McGruder because nobody is talking about them, and

1432
01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:41,120
Speaker 3: mcgroober was trending this weekends back macgroober is back. So

1433
01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:44,760
Speaker 3: this is an episodic I think so. Yeah, okay, so

1434
01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:47,600
Speaker 3: they went from a movie which was good, uh, to

1435
01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:48,720
Speaker 3: now the season.

1436
01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:50,400
Speaker 4: Now it's a serious series.

1437
01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:50,800
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1438
01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:54,240
Speaker 4: I haven't watched it yet, but macgrooober of the movie

1439
01:03:54,320 --> 01:03:57,120
Speaker 4: is hilarious, like one of the ten best movies of

1440
01:03:57,160 --> 01:03:58,720
Speaker 4: the past ten years. I would say if it came

1441
01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:00,640
Speaker 4: out in the past ten and is it what's the

1442
01:04:00,640 --> 01:04:05,720
Speaker 4: guy's name of that plays on Will? Will? Which Will? Yeah,

1443
01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:07,480
Speaker 4: he's in the series.

1444
01:04:07,600 --> 01:04:09,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he's mcgroober excited.

1445
01:04:11,240 --> 01:04:13,680
Speaker 4: Did you ever watch uh mcgiver?

1446
01:04:14,120 --> 01:04:16,680
Speaker 5: Oh well yeah, yeah, okay, Well then come on a

1447
01:04:16,800 --> 01:04:17,840
Speaker 5: little little humor.

1448
01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:22,320
Speaker 4: What if mcgiver was terrible at just shove things up

1449
01:04:22,360 --> 01:04:25,000
Speaker 4: his butt all the time? I heard that mcgroomer's shoving

1450
01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:28,360
Speaker 4: things up his ass within ten minutes of the series debuting,

1451
01:04:28,760 --> 01:04:30,000
Speaker 4: So you know it's gotta be good.

1452
01:04:30,840 --> 01:04:32,919
Speaker 5: Another I think you should leave on the no.

1453
01:04:32,920 --> 01:04:37,560
Speaker 3: No is actually this is real? Gives himself a Bartolo

1454
01:04:37,640 --> 01:04:39,360
Speaker 3: colonoscopy in that first.

1455
01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:43,439
Speaker 2: Season let's hear from everybody, uh in the stream team

1456
01:04:43,520 --> 01:04:45,480
Speaker 2: and the YouTube comments on Twitter at no dunk sink

1457
01:04:45,520 --> 01:04:49,520
Speaker 2: your thoughts on this blockbuster Nuggets Pistons deal. We're gonna

1458
01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:50,840
Speaker 2: take one more break. When we come back, we'll get

1459
01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:51,640
Speaker 2: to tweet of the night.

1460
01:04:51,640 --> 01:04:58,160
Speaker 4: Don't go anywhere? Is does he? Wait? He sticks something

1461
01:04:58,200 --> 01:05:04,720
Speaker 4: up his butt? Later You're gonna love it. Yeah, let's

1462
01:05:04,760 --> 01:05:07,760
Speaker 4: this start. Must be soon, it's already out. Oh yeah, yeah.

1463
01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:10,920
Speaker 4: That peacock might be a peacock.

1464
01:05:11,480 --> 01:05:13,760
Speaker 3: I don't know. Sometimes I'm watching an NBA game then

1465
01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:15,720
Speaker 3: I just got hit with a peacock ad right in

1466
01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:19,520
Speaker 3: my face. It's like a peacock, but the commentator doesn't

1467
01:05:19,520 --> 01:05:21,200
Speaker 3: even know what's coming. It just shows up anyways.

1468
01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:24,400
Speaker 2: Cool Chet Walker, seven time All Star, played for the

1469
01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:27,200
Speaker 2: Bulls and seventy six ers back in the day. Eighteen

1470
01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:28,160
Speaker 2: thousand points flee.

1471
01:05:28,840 --> 01:05:30,880
Speaker 5: Wow, Yeah there you got. I know you learned something

1472
01:05:30,880 --> 01:05:31,320
Speaker 5: on the show.

1473
01:05:32,240 --> 01:05:35,520
Speaker 4: You know what? The name chet is short for no Chester?

1474
01:05:36,080 --> 01:05:36,560
Speaker 3: Interesting?

1475
01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:42,480
Speaker 4: Oh okay, why not chess? Yeah, it really makes it

1476
01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:46,760
Speaker 4: a pitch. Get to tweet of the night, Chat.

1477
01:05:46,680 --> 01:05:52,120
Speaker 3: Of the night, tweet out the night, Wow Twitter.

1478
01:05:53,560 --> 01:05:56,880
Speaker 5: Is yeah, yeah, well I saw it come through on

1479
01:05:56,960 --> 01:06:00,600
Speaker 5: frauday count from the Houston Rockets, and uh, I just

1480
01:06:00,960 --> 01:06:04,920
Speaker 5: equally disgusted yet intrigued by what it came from the

1481
01:06:04,960 --> 01:06:08,160
Speaker 5: official Rockets Twitter account. Here it is is a new

1482
01:06:08,320 --> 01:06:12,160
Speaker 5: food drop at Toyota Center tonight, jumbo mac and cheese

1483
01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:16,480
Speaker 5: hot dog with fruit loops and bacon, exclusively outside Section

1484
01:06:16,520 --> 01:06:17,800
Speaker 5: one one for who's trying one?

1485
01:06:17,840 --> 01:06:21,160
Speaker 4: I mean, who?

1486
01:06:22,880 --> 01:06:24,120
Speaker 5: All right, we've got a hot dog.

1487
01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:26,200
Speaker 4: Let's spice it up a little bit.

1488
01:06:26,280 --> 01:06:27,400
Speaker 5: Anyone want to put some.

1489
01:06:27,520 --> 01:06:28,240
Speaker 4: Cheese in there?

1490
01:06:28,520 --> 01:06:30,920
Speaker 5: Okay, not just cheese thet's throw some mac and cheese

1491
01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:33,960
Speaker 5: in there. Okay, fine, hot dog cheese sort of goes.

1492
01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:37,920
Speaker 5: You want to get crazy, Let's throw some bacon on there. Okay, okay,

1493
01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:39,640
Speaker 5: I can sort of see when you're drunk at three

1494
01:06:39,640 --> 01:06:44,160
Speaker 5: in the morning people sounds. But the fruit loops, where

1495
01:06:44,200 --> 01:06:47,800
Speaker 5: do they come from in this creation? If that's sort

1496
01:06:47,840 --> 01:06:53,400
Speaker 5: of like fruit loops and hot dog, there's no natural

1497
01:06:53,920 --> 01:06:58,000
Speaker 5: connection there? Nah, I mean.

1498
01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:04,080
Speaker 4: Intrigued. I would try that. I don't, you know, the

1499
01:07:04,160 --> 01:07:05,080
Speaker 4: salt in the suite.

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01:07:06,440 --> 01:07:08,600
Speaker 5: Too ugly with our companies, I don't know if that

1501
01:07:08,640 --> 01:07:14,800
Speaker 5: would be that might even be like it.

1502
01:07:14,520 --> 01:07:19,760
Speaker 4: Give it a go, but well helped me get to

1503
01:07:19,800 --> 01:07:21,800
Speaker 4: this because it's got the people talking.

1504
01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:22,760
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1505
01:07:22,800 --> 01:07:26,480
Speaker 4: My mom literally texted me that's why three minutes before

1506
01:07:26,520 --> 01:07:28,680
Speaker 4: the show started, I just heard on the radio that

1507
01:07:28,720 --> 01:07:30,840
Speaker 4: the Houston Rockets have a new hot dog that has

1508
01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:34,160
Speaker 4: a weird combination including fruit loops. Didn't know if you

1509
01:07:34,200 --> 01:07:38,840
Speaker 4: wanted to resurrect the pocket Dog. I said, I think

1510
01:07:38,880 --> 01:07:41,040
Speaker 4: we have it on the show today, no spoilers, but

1511
01:07:41,080 --> 01:07:44,120
Speaker 4: I did see it and on the screen earlier. So

1512
01:07:44,160 --> 01:07:45,960
Speaker 4: I told her that, and she said, of course you do.

1513
01:07:46,520 --> 01:07:51,680
Speaker 4: You guys are on the cutting edge. I guess what

1514
01:07:52,080 --> 01:07:55,400
Speaker 4: basketball podcast wise, we are the podcast to come to

1515
01:07:55,440 --> 01:07:59,880
Speaker 4: When it comes to hot dogs? Would you try that?

1516
01:08:00,040 --> 01:08:01,360
Speaker 4: Would you eat? Absolutely?

1517
01:08:01,520 --> 01:08:01,760
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1518
01:08:02,800 --> 01:08:05,520
Speaker 4: Great things? The fruit loops is weird, yeah, but I

1519
01:08:05,560 --> 01:08:08,280
Speaker 4: mean mac and cheese bacon hot dog. That sounds like

1520
01:08:08,360 --> 01:08:11,400
Speaker 4: a perfect next. So I'm willing to live a little

1521
01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:14,640
Speaker 4: with the frill loop, all right? Yeah, so cinnamon toast

1522
01:08:14,680 --> 01:08:16,040
Speaker 4: crunch instead of the fruit loops?

1523
01:08:16,040 --> 01:08:18,000
Speaker 5: Would that? Would that seal the deal for you? Wids?

1524
01:08:18,160 --> 01:08:20,680
Speaker 7: You know, I know you're a big cereal Yeah, I

1525
01:08:20,720 --> 01:08:23,280
Speaker 7: mean I think any cereal is going to be weird

1526
01:08:23,320 --> 01:08:25,800
Speaker 7: on it, So maybe they should let you pick your

1527
01:08:25,840 --> 01:08:29,200
Speaker 7: own cereal when they're they'll get ooh, you get the

1528
01:08:29,240 --> 01:08:31,559
Speaker 7: hot dog, pick your pasta, pick your cereal.

1529
01:08:32,080 --> 01:08:36,839
Speaker 4: That's the next generation, straight from the classic factory custom.

1530
01:08:38,360 --> 01:08:42,080
Speaker 4: Pick your pasta, you want a little fetacini alfredo and

1531
01:08:42,200 --> 01:08:44,360
Speaker 4: maybe some golden grams on top of your hot dog.

1532
01:08:44,520 --> 01:08:47,040
Speaker 4: Doesn't make any sense, but neither does this. That's why

1533
01:08:47,040 --> 01:08:48,240
Speaker 4: we're on the cutting edge.

1534
01:08:49,560 --> 01:08:52,320
Speaker 3: Wasn't that what our our friends at that company had,

1535
01:08:52,360 --> 01:08:55,479
Speaker 3: because they they struggled with the idea that their their

1536
01:08:55,479 --> 01:08:58,400
Speaker 3: innovation was you can't carry a cup and a big

1537
01:08:58,439 --> 01:09:01,879
Speaker 3: tray of food. So what they created was like multiple

1538
01:09:01,960 --> 01:09:05,160
Speaker 3: bowls that you could carry on your cup from the

1539
01:09:05,200 --> 01:09:08,080
Speaker 3: concession back to your So maybe you could have like

1540
01:09:08,120 --> 01:09:10,400
Speaker 3: the multiple levels. You could have the pasta in one

1541
01:09:10,479 --> 01:09:13,040
Speaker 3: bowl and then the fruit loops in the other and

1542
01:09:13,080 --> 01:09:14,960
Speaker 3: it would stay hot you get back to your seat.

1543
01:09:15,479 --> 01:09:20,960
Speaker 3: You concoct it all right then, and there gross gros. Yeah,

1544
01:09:20,960 --> 01:09:26,160
Speaker 3: well it's all gross. Yeah, try it. I think like

1545
01:09:26,240 --> 01:09:29,840
Speaker 3: you guys said, the three three levels connect in the

1546
01:09:29,880 --> 01:09:32,560
Speaker 3: pasta and the bacon and the dog. You're maybe you

1547
01:09:32,600 --> 01:09:34,640
Speaker 3: could just you know, swipe off some loops if you

1548
01:09:34,680 --> 01:09:36,439
Speaker 3: don't want them. Hold the lips here.

1549
01:09:39,960 --> 01:09:42,160
Speaker 4: I feel like Houston, correct me.

1550
01:09:42,160 --> 01:09:44,479
Speaker 2: If I'm wrongs have like tapped in, and I mean

1551
01:09:44,520 --> 01:09:46,360
Speaker 2: not even just the Rockets, but like it feels like

1552
01:09:46,400 --> 01:09:49,120
Speaker 2: the Astros and stuff like that, like Houston has tapped

1553
01:09:49,120 --> 01:09:52,720
Speaker 2: into Like let's just like put shit together and throw

1554
01:09:52,720 --> 01:09:54,920
Speaker 2: it on the internet and go viral and see if

1555
01:09:54,920 --> 01:09:57,200
Speaker 2: people buy this thing. Like I feel like this has

1556
01:09:57,200 --> 01:09:59,040
Speaker 2: happened in the Astros have done something.

1557
01:09:59,040 --> 01:09:59,760
Speaker 5: I know it.

1558
01:10:00,520 --> 01:10:03,200
Speaker 4: So you're telling me if I google Astro's Weird hot

1559
01:10:03,200 --> 01:10:04,000
Speaker 4: Dog or.

1560
01:10:04,160 --> 01:10:08,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, yes, Texas, I get like Texas is not to me.

1561
01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:11,439
Speaker 5: I think you find too many vegans with vegetarians out there.

1562
01:10:11,720 --> 01:10:15,000
Speaker 5: They want like all sorts of like fatty foods on

1563
01:10:15,080 --> 01:10:17,559
Speaker 5: there and just make it as big and as unhealthy

1564
01:10:17,600 --> 01:10:19,840
Speaker 5: as possible. That's just the sort of you know the

1565
01:10:19,920 --> 01:10:20,559
Speaker 5: way it feels.

1566
01:10:20,720 --> 01:10:22,680
Speaker 4: Okay, So I.

1567
01:10:22,640 --> 01:10:25,519
Speaker 2: Mean I think you're right, Yeah, yeah, okay, you found

1568
01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:26,479
Speaker 2: something with the Astros.

1569
01:10:26,479 --> 01:10:29,800
Speaker 4: This sounds multiple somethings. I literally just googled Astro's Weird

1570
01:10:29,840 --> 01:10:33,559
Speaker 4: hot Dog. The first one was it's terreso sausage wrapped

1571
01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:36,240
Speaker 4: in a corn tortilla and deep fried, topped with tequila

1572
01:10:36,280 --> 01:10:41,320
Speaker 4: braised onions, pico digayo, and kotilla cheese on a pretzel bun. Okay,

1573
01:10:41,400 --> 01:10:44,519
Speaker 4: so it's a lot of sausage in its tortilla on

1574
01:10:44,680 --> 01:10:45,160
Speaker 4: a bun.

1575
01:10:46,080 --> 01:10:48,960
Speaker 5: That's a lot about sodium is in that.

1576
01:10:49,560 --> 01:10:51,879
Speaker 4: And then there's another. Oh wait no, this one's from Cleveland.

1577
01:10:52,200 --> 01:10:55,760
Speaker 4: But this is just Astro's players reacting to it. They

1578
01:10:55,760 --> 01:10:58,760
Speaker 4: are on the cutting edge of hot dog technology in

1579
01:10:58,800 --> 01:11:01,920
Speaker 4: the MLB, and we handle the podcast game. That's the

1580
01:11:01,960 --> 01:11:05,040
Speaker 4: place to be for weird hot dogs. I guess Yeah, Houston,

1581
01:11:05,120 --> 01:11:06,599
Speaker 4: I think so, the Houston hot Dogs.

1582
01:11:06,920 --> 01:11:08,680
Speaker 2: Can this be one of my picking payoffs to eat

1583
01:11:08,720 --> 01:11:09,559
Speaker 2: this weird hot dog?

1584
01:11:09,680 --> 01:11:09,960
Speaker 4: Sure?

1585
01:11:11,040 --> 01:11:12,040
Speaker 5: Eat two of them?

1586
01:11:12,360 --> 01:11:14,320
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, nine hot dogs?

1587
01:11:15,560 --> 01:11:15,880
Speaker 5: Nine?

1588
01:11:16,040 --> 01:11:18,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, you've done the nine nine nine at the baseball game.

1589
01:11:18,200 --> 01:11:21,599
Speaker 5: Now nine hogs a sports fan?

1590
01:11:23,880 --> 01:11:24,559
Speaker 4: Have you ever heard it?

1591
01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:28,840
Speaker 2: I've try and do the nine hot dogs and nine beers.

1592
01:11:29,320 --> 01:11:31,519
Speaker 5: No, that's hard, that would be tough. Yeah.

1593
01:11:31,920 --> 01:11:37,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I had a Costco hot dog this weekend. Still good? Yeah,

1594
01:11:38,320 --> 01:11:39,360
Speaker 3: dirty hot dogs?

1595
01:11:39,400 --> 01:11:39,920
Speaker 4: Nothing wrong with that?

1596
01:11:41,960 --> 01:11:42,519
Speaker 3: Holds out?

1597
01:11:42,840 --> 01:11:43,040
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1598
01:11:43,240 --> 01:11:43,720
Speaker 3: Still good?

1599
01:11:43,760 --> 01:11:45,080
Speaker 5: Are they still doing the pizza?

1600
01:11:45,320 --> 01:11:48,559
Speaker 3: They cut the pizzas, so still going slices or pie?

1601
01:11:48,760 --> 01:11:51,240
Speaker 3: I think they stopped the indoor eating for a while.

1602
01:11:51,320 --> 01:11:55,519
Speaker 3: Oh right, but it's back, baby, America is back. You

1603
01:11:55,520 --> 01:11:58,360
Speaker 3: can have a hot dog, you know, you get it,

1604
01:11:58,400 --> 01:12:00,519
Speaker 3: just a plain hot dog and it's still warm. It's

1605
01:12:00,520 --> 01:12:03,400
Speaker 3: a good sized dogg or it's not just a little guy,

1606
01:12:03,439 --> 01:12:05,720
Speaker 3: you know, full foot I think maybe not a foot,

1607
01:12:05,760 --> 01:12:06,559
Speaker 3: but you know, a thick one.

1608
01:12:06,840 --> 01:12:10,080
Speaker 2: This crazy hot dog here from from the Rockets does

1609
01:12:10,200 --> 01:12:13,120
Speaker 2: remind me of my stoner snack that I've presented to

1610
01:12:13,160 --> 01:12:17,360
Speaker 2: you guys, of the Graham cracker bree cheese and then

1611
01:12:17,400 --> 01:12:21,040
Speaker 2: a ketchup chip on top. There's the there's the sweet,

1612
01:12:21,120 --> 01:12:21,800
Speaker 2: there's the salt.

1613
01:12:21,840 --> 01:12:24,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, he usually stoned. I mean it makes more sense.

1614
01:12:24,680 --> 01:12:25,120
Speaker 5: It's fine.

1615
01:12:25,160 --> 01:12:25,320
Speaker 3: Then.

1616
01:12:25,400 --> 01:12:25,639
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1617
01:12:25,680 --> 01:12:26,720
Speaker 4: Oh so you eat this hot dog?

1618
01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:28,639
Speaker 5: Yeah, if you're starting, Yeah, okay, next.

1619
01:12:28,479 --> 01:12:29,120
Speaker 4: Pick them payoff.

1620
01:12:29,160 --> 01:12:30,720
Speaker 2: You gotta get stone and then eat the hot dog

1621
01:12:30,760 --> 01:12:35,559
Speaker 2: at the other the show, all right, okay, pickup results

1622
01:12:35,560 --> 01:12:38,920
Speaker 2: speaking to pick them from Friday Night Bucks Nets.

1623
01:12:39,439 --> 01:12:40,040
Speaker 4: Excuse me.

1624
01:12:40,240 --> 01:12:42,160
Speaker 2: The Nets were favored by four and a half is

1625
01:12:42,160 --> 01:12:45,439
Speaker 2: brought to you by MGM, of course, and Milwaukee got

1626
01:12:45,439 --> 01:12:48,519
Speaker 2: it done straight up cover, straight up money line hit. Actually,

1627
01:12:48,520 --> 01:12:50,800
Speaker 2: if I remember correctly, so Tray the only one to

1628
01:12:50,840 --> 01:12:52,080
Speaker 2: take Milwaukee in that game.

1629
01:12:52,080 --> 01:12:54,560
Speaker 4: Everybody else was feeling pretty good about the Nets.

1630
01:12:55,040 --> 01:12:59,799
Speaker 2: So it's jumbled up here after five games in January,

1631
01:13:00,160 --> 01:13:02,400
Speaker 2: lead with a three and two record, and then tassit

1632
01:13:02,439 --> 01:13:05,240
Speaker 2: Lee coming up tied for a second at two and three.

1633
01:13:05,400 --> 01:13:06,200
Speaker 4: So it's nice game.

1634
01:13:06,560 --> 01:13:08,719
Speaker 3: Well, and that's they're just trying to throw games at home.

1635
01:13:09,200 --> 01:13:11,960
Speaker 3: They don't like when they're trying to show Kyrie, hey,

1636
01:13:12,000 --> 01:13:15,240
Speaker 3: come on over. And then yeah, the very very very

1637
01:13:15,280 --> 01:13:18,759
Speaker 3: tight win over the Spurs on Sunday afternoon. They're barely

1638
01:13:19,160 --> 01:13:22,960
Speaker 3: beating the Spurs and Thomas Yeah, and the Nets get

1639
01:13:23,160 --> 01:13:25,200
Speaker 3: Kyrie back tonight as they go on the road. What

1640
01:13:25,320 --> 01:13:27,720
Speaker 3: a weird world we live in. Anyways, we're gonna go

1641
01:13:27,760 --> 01:13:31,120
Speaker 3: back to the Bucks. They're actually having a second game

1642
01:13:31,160 --> 01:13:34,360
Speaker 3: with the Charlotte Hornets. The Hornets beat them in game one,

1643
01:13:34,880 --> 01:13:38,680
Speaker 3: rematch game two, and Charlotte Charlotte are two and a

1644
01:13:38,720 --> 01:13:44,719
Speaker 3: half point dog. Speaking of dogs, Tray the only one

1645
01:13:45,240 --> 01:13:48,519
Speaker 3: dogging it. I'm sorry, Skeets. Yeah, this got all mumble jumbled.

1646
01:13:48,760 --> 01:13:52,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, so what happened was everybody took the Bucks. I

1647
01:13:52,200 --> 01:13:54,240
Speaker 2: can't stand when we all have the same team. So

1648
01:13:54,280 --> 01:13:56,559
Speaker 2: I was like, I'll sarve today, but I don't feel

1649
01:13:56,600 --> 01:13:58,880
Speaker 2: great about it because yeah, this is the Uh, it's

1650
01:13:58,920 --> 01:14:00,759
Speaker 2: tough to be the team twice in a Yeah, and

1651
01:14:00,800 --> 01:14:01,759
Speaker 2: we're also talking about.

1652
01:14:01,560 --> 01:14:02,519
Speaker 3: The war the Bucks.

1653
01:14:02,560 --> 01:14:05,600
Speaker 2: Yeah exactly, but come on, Charlotte lose by two or

1654
01:14:05,640 --> 01:14:06,840
Speaker 2: one and I'm happy.

1655
01:14:07,120 --> 01:14:10,280
Speaker 4: Third game and four nights for Milwaukee, all on the road.

1656
01:14:10,400 --> 01:14:13,400
Speaker 4: So that's why be feeling a little bit okay. But yeah,

1657
01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:15,839
Speaker 4: as the last one to pick, I felt bad Skeets

1658
01:14:15,880 --> 01:14:17,800
Speaker 4: going for the Bucks. Yeah, you don't like to see

1659
01:14:17,800 --> 01:14:20,080
Speaker 4: the same logo there on the graphic.

1660
01:14:20,160 --> 01:14:22,320
Speaker 2: I mean I feel like it should be almost a

1661
01:14:22,360 --> 01:14:26,479
Speaker 2: little gentleman rules to it, where it's like, you know,

1662
01:14:26,560 --> 01:14:28,920
Speaker 2: like tomorrow, if we all pick the same team and

1663
01:14:28,960 --> 01:14:29,760
Speaker 2: maybe it's your turn.

1664
01:14:29,880 --> 01:14:31,920
Speaker 4: Sure, you know, I just think that's fair. It was

1665
01:14:31,960 --> 01:14:37,880
Speaker 4: the Friday swervester, Yeah exactly, the Monday swervester. Who's next?

1666
01:14:36,240 --> 01:14:37,000
Speaker 4: Who's good.

1667
01:14:38,320 --> 01:14:38,439
Speaker 3: These?

1668
01:14:38,600 --> 01:14:38,880
Speaker 4: No?

1669
01:14:39,400 --> 01:14:39,799
Speaker 3: Exactly?

1670
01:14:39,880 --> 01:14:42,280
Speaker 2: If anything, you want to like fadus, Yeah for sure.

1671
01:14:42,439 --> 01:14:44,200
Speaker 2: All right, So that's the pick them game tonight. I'm

1672
01:14:44,200 --> 01:14:46,639
Speaker 2: the only one taking Charlotte as a dog. Everybody else

1673
01:14:46,640 --> 01:14:48,559
Speaker 2: has in the Bucks to win by three or more.

1674
01:14:49,000 --> 01:14:52,599
Speaker 2: That's it for today's show, the NBA weekend winners and losers. Again,

1675
01:14:52,640 --> 01:14:54,160
Speaker 2: let's hear from you guys. Who'd we miss. There's a

1676
01:14:54,160 --> 01:14:56,479
Speaker 2: lot out there, let us know in the comments. Tweet

1677
01:14:56,520 --> 01:14:59,479
Speaker 2: at us at No Dunksinc. Email in your NBA questions.

1678
01:14:59,520 --> 01:15:01,160
Speaker 2: We hit the b tomorrow.

1679
01:15:01,240 --> 01:15:03,040
Speaker 4: For crying out loud, it's not the greatest set of

1680
01:15:03,080 --> 01:15:05,280
Speaker 4: games tonight. No, it's there's some.

1681
01:15:05,640 --> 01:15:08,599
Speaker 3: Dud That was the closest line in Milauckey Charlotte. So

1682
01:15:08,760 --> 01:15:09,559
Speaker 3: some biggies, so.

1683
01:15:09,479 --> 01:15:10,400
Speaker 4: We might hit the beach to ball.

1684
01:15:10,479 --> 01:15:12,559
Speaker 2: Get your questions in No dunks at the Athletic dot com.

1685
01:15:12,560 --> 01:15:13,040
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1686
01:15:13,000 --> 01:15:16,880
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1687
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1688
01:15:21,160 --> 01:15:26,040
Speaker 4: Are you thinking there college championship game tonight? That's why

1689
01:15:26,040 --> 01:15:28,280
Speaker 4: we got a garbage schedule?

1690
01:15:28,400 --> 01:15:31,439
Speaker 2: No, remind me, Oh no, maybe I'm thinking of the

1691
01:15:31,600 --> 01:15:34,639
Speaker 2: n c double A basketball College Championship. Did we were

1692
01:15:34,640 --> 01:15:36,599
Speaker 2: there times where this football game was on? We would

1693
01:15:36,600 --> 01:15:41,240
Speaker 2: have no NBA games on in my crany I said

1694
01:15:41,240 --> 01:15:45,519
Speaker 2: that last week here no off airfkicking.

1695
01:15:46,640 --> 01:15:49,719
Speaker 3: I'm just stoned. Yeah that's okay, I'm just kidding.

1696
01:15:49,960 --> 01:15:54,080
Speaker 4: What do you think Georgia or Obama Go Ducks, Go

1697
01:15:54,160 --> 01:15:54,719
Speaker 4: hot Dogs.

1698
01:15:56,760 --> 01:15:58,479
Speaker 2: Actually I do not want to cheer for the dogs

1699
01:15:58,520 --> 01:15:59,800
Speaker 2: at all, but I think the dogs are gonna win

1700
01:16:00,280 --> 01:16:03,479
Speaker 2: because I think didn't Alabama beat them earlier in this year.

1701
01:16:03,520 --> 01:16:06,559
Speaker 2: And it's tough to be a team twice, very tough

1702
01:16:06,560 --> 01:16:07,479
Speaker 2: to be a team twice.

1703
01:16:07,479 --> 01:16:10,679
Speaker 3: Bama owns that man. Bama owns the second and sixteen

1704
01:16:10,760 --> 01:16:13,160
Speaker 3: and twenty eighteen. I saw one of those flags on

1705
01:16:13,200 --> 01:16:18,839
Speaker 3: somebody's porch. Half Bama, this house divided flag half Bama

1706
01:16:19,040 --> 01:16:19,799
Speaker 3: half Georgia.

1707
01:16:19,880 --> 01:16:22,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't lose tonight, can't lose. We actually no

1708
01:16:22,360 --> 01:16:25,720
Speaker 2: if anything? Yeah everyone then right?

1709
01:16:25,840 --> 01:16:26,200
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1710
01:16:26,479 --> 01:16:31,120
Speaker 2: Or in theory, well somebody sleeping on the couch, yeah, yeah, right,

1711
01:16:31,120 --> 01:16:32,040
Speaker 2: who you cheering for tonight?

1712
01:16:32,520 --> 01:16:36,240
Speaker 5: Come Georgia, go dog, God give me the duel.

1713
01:16:37,080 --> 01:16:39,000
Speaker 3: This is in Indiana? Is it?

1714
01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:39,839
Speaker 4: It is in Indiana?

1715
01:16:39,880 --> 01:16:42,720
Speaker 3: Yeah? And you know who's traffish schlank cheering for? That's

1716
01:16:42,720 --> 01:16:46,719
Speaker 3: what who? I what I wanted on that note.

1717
01:16:46,800 --> 01:16:49,719
Speaker 4: Clipper bros. You heard it here first. Have a great time,

1718
01:16:49,920 --> 01:16:52,200
Speaker 4: turn up, love you guys, awesome.

1719
01:16:52,040 --> 01:16:54,080
Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us. And it's only a two and

1720
01:16:54,120 --> 01:16:57,080
Speaker 3: a half point spread. I just can't stop looking at

1721
01:16:57,120 --> 01:17:00,760
Speaker 3: your screens all show, looking at you.

1722
01:17:00,680 --> 01:17:04,759
Speaker 4: Want to learn about chat Walker, Embrace the Day of People.

1723
01:17:12,120 --> 01:17:12,360
Speaker 5: Yeah,