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Speaker 1: Last week, we gave you the dream offseason. Great where

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Speaker 1: to start off your week, We're giving you the nightmare offseason.

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Speaker 1: What could go wrong for the New York Mets in

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Speaker 1: the twenty twenty six offseason. There's a lot of things

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Speaker 1: that could go wrong. I fucking hope they don't. I

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Speaker 1: really don't. I really hope it goes well. But why not,

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Speaker 1: Let's make your Tuesday morning or whenever you're listening to

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Speaker 1: us a nightmare for you as well. Get these negative

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Speaker 1: thoughts in your head. Be honest, not off to a

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Speaker 1: great start this offseason. We already had two of the

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Speaker 1: coaches that we liked on this staff go to the

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Speaker 1: Atlanta Braves, Antoine Richardson and Jeremy Hefner going to the

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Speaker 1: Braves because they're getting more money. It's kind of that

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think it's definitely different for Hefnervrus Richardson,

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Speaker 2: where we just we told have to not to come back.

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Speaker 2: So he's a good coach. We knew he's getting a job.

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Speaker 2: I think we said it if he were not to

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Speaker 2: come back. I think we said to be unemployed. For

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Speaker 2: about five or ten minutes. It seems like that was

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Speaker 2: the case. It seemed pretty well to do. Were richardson

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Speaker 2: the thing we talked about last week or a week

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Speaker 2: scared about, did happen where he didn't really go to

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Speaker 2: with any of the top guys on it. And he

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Speaker 2: didn't exactly get a bump in role either. It seems

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Speaker 2: combination of him possibly overplaying his hand and the Mets

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Speaker 2: prioritizing other coaches kind of forced his way out of

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Speaker 1: I also think at the same time, because Carls Mendoza

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Speaker 2: Well, and also the case of if now he can hop

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Speaker 2: it's a bit of a lame duck right now, and

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Speaker 2: Mike Puma had a good piece and some good tweets

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Speaker 2: about what happened. He said that the Mets had Richardson

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Speaker 2: left the Mets for the Braves because of a difference

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Speaker 2: proposeealary with benefits included. The Mets had I proposed salary

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Speaker 2: with benefits included. We differed on the salary parts. So

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Speaker 2: that seems to be the point where then he started

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Speaker 2: looking for other places. Then Puma came back to that

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Speaker 2: but the team couldn't offer the same deal as originally

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Speaker 2: because of restriction on the number of coaches allowed to

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Speaker 2: receive a pension. The Mets had hired other coaches before

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Speaker 2: Richardson circled back, and that is a rule that I

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Speaker 2: think four other coaches the major league staff besides the managers,

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Speaker 2: are allowed to receive pensions. So it seems like as

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Speaker 2: the Mets have hired other coaches, promoting Jeff Albert, Troy

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Speaker 2: it seems like maybe they gave out some contracts that

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Speaker 2: the pensions. Seems like that pushed this firmly over the top.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and truthfully, it's not that big of a conversation point.

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Speaker 1: It's more like we know the impact that both these

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Speaker 1: sales working for them this entire time. Never trusted Jeremy

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Speaker 2: Don't say that doesn't okay, great, we had great times,

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Speaker 2: We had great names.

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Speaker 3: Jeremy, Jeremy had Jeremy.

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Speaker 1: About this again.

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Speaker 3: I'm the head.

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Speaker 2: Think I'm not mad about because we told him not

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Speaker 2: I don't like losing Regidson. It does suck the way

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Speaker 1: I also think that if we are overly concerned as

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of you guys were hitting us up

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and listen, we're now rooting for this. But there

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Speaker 1: The first one I think that everyone is talking about

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Speaker 2: And we have now the reporter wars that begin every

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Speaker 2: coming out, But there was a poor from Jeff Passon

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Speaker 2: Then Bob Nightingale went out and said the opposite. It said,

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Speaker 3: So it's just just.

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Speaker 1: Saying this out loud too. Maybe the people who mess

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Speaker 2: Piss some people off, but hey, oh yeah, that's that's

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Speaker 2: what it's called the wind up. But there's We're just

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Speaker 2: we're going to still act like this whole off season

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Speaker 2: terif school is available. Next episode's going to come out

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Speaker 2: Thumb new clickbait for you guys. Ten players the Mets

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Speaker 2: will trade for us offseason, and of course again that

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Speaker 2: Just don't think you go into next season with sang

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Speaker 1: Yes, which is would love to get someone that's better

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, if we come out of this offseason just

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Speaker 1: Meryl Kelly is our is our only starting picture we

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Speaker 3: I still love Merril Kelly. I'm still happy to have me.

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Speaker 1: I'd just say I have pet. I know Merril Kelly's

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Speaker 2: Don't you don't ever conflict those two guys. Meryl Kelly's

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Speaker 1: The second thing that could be a real nightmare to

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Speaker 2: chance to win the next two seasons, hopefully the second

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Speaker 2: of those two happens, you don't. It's hard to find

437
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Speaker 2: a path to having a plus plus ballpen next year

438
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Speaker 2: if Edwin Diaz isn't in it, which is so the

439
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Speaker 2: opposite of what we thought the last few years. But

440
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Speaker 2: I think last year was a humbling moment to you, me,

441
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Speaker 2: David Starns, everyone involved here, because if you look at

442
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Speaker 2: other clothes available, which I don't even think that we'd

443
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Speaker 2: consider going in this direction if we don't sign Edwin Diz,

444
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Speaker 2: Like I don't think you give Robert Swarez similar money

445
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Speaker 2: in a shorter, same deal, Like I don't think you

446
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Speaker 2: just worse. I don't think you get Ryce Elglaciers, who's

447
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Speaker 2: much older than either of those two guys are actually

448
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Speaker 2: not the Robert Sworiz. But then Edwin Diaz, like, is

449
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Speaker 2: this just to become the Devin Williams redemption project? You

450
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Speaker 2: signed Devin Williams in the one year proven deal and

451
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Speaker 2: you hope that you just bought a potentially a lead

452
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Speaker 2: closer again, you do you try to force Kenley Jansen

453
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Speaker 2: back across the country like who like, who's also thirty

454
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Speaker 2: eight years old?

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Speaker 1: Like, it's just br Ralston back too? Why not they

456
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Speaker 1: don't give him? We let him see if he can

457
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Speaker 1: figure it out again.

458
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Speaker 2: But that's also I mean helsy and ironically is in

459
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Speaker 2: the next year of relievers who you look to like

460
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Speaker 2: Amelia Pegan, who I think is a really intriguing option,

461
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Speaker 2: but I would love him as Nathan and guy Pete Fairbanks,

462
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Speaker 2: who I think has the public lexicon closer shine, but

463
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Speaker 2: like under the surface, he's really lost a lot of

464
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Speaker 2: the good stuff, and I think that it's not that

465
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Speaker 2: crazy if the race just let him go in terms

466
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Speaker 2: of what his option was, like the Kirbyates redemption arc,

467
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Speaker 2: he's also approaching for the Kyle Finnegan and now he's

468
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Speaker 2: throwing that splitter all the time.

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Speaker 3: The Tigers had him.

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Speaker 2: Do like, it's it gets real weird, real fast to

471
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Speaker 2: go into next season without a closer. If you don't

472
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Speaker 2: have Edwards, then you trade assets for a closer, like

473
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Speaker 2: in terms of that, we don't trade for starting pitcher. Like,

474
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Speaker 2: it's a really weird path forward to be a contender

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Speaker 2: next year without Edwin.

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Speaker 1: Dis I enjoy the theory of the glob of chaos.

477
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Speaker 1: I do not want a full bullpen full of glob

478
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Speaker 1: of chaos because once again I will rip all the

479
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Speaker 1: hair out of my head.

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Speaker 2: You the one, you, the one of Michaelkopek, Jordan Romano

481
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Speaker 2: at brad Al's lay ninth ending trio next year?

482
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Speaker 3: Has that? Does that not sound good to you?

483
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Speaker 1: I accidentally got se tickets. I thought I opted out.

484
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Speaker 1: I found out that really, Yeah, I found out. I'm

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Speaker 1: back on them. If if our, if the fucking closer

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Speaker 1: is Jordan Romano, Michael Kopek, Brad Keller, I'll I'll be

487
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Speaker 1: boycotting games. I'll come with the paper bag on my head.

488
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Speaker 1: That would be insane.

489
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Speaker 3: What about Jim Palmer's favorite reliever, Sir Anthony Dominguz.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'd love him in the seventh He's a

491
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Speaker 1: great seventh Inny reliever, don't feel good about him getting

492
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Speaker 1: the last three outs.

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Speaker 2: And this is the whole thing again, I think both

494
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Speaker 2: of us have not fully changed our philosophy because if

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Speaker 2: some if some team comes out here and gives Edmond

496
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Speaker 2: as like five for one twenty five and then they

497
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Speaker 2: they got him, at that point, I won't feel as

498
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Speaker 2: disgustingly bad as I will if he gets signed for

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Speaker 2: a similar amount of money. And I still think Edwind

500
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Speaker 2: Diaz wants to be back, and I think the Mets

501
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Speaker 2: want Edmund Diaz back for a price that's fair and

502
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Speaker 2: reasonable for everyone involved here. But at the same time,

503
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Speaker 2: if he does get blown out of the water, and

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Speaker 2: this is this is where we wind up shopping like

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Speaker 2: it's going to be a great week of metstup content

506
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Speaker 2: of us just digging through every single team's depth chart

507
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Speaker 2: and finding any reliever we could possibly trade for.

508
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Speaker 1: And that sounds like a nightmare to me. All right,

509
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Speaker 1: Let's move on to the third nightmare scenario, which is

510
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Speaker 1: Mark Fiento's is our everyday first baseman because Pete Alonzo

511
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Speaker 1: signed with the Phillies. That's that's a nightmare or the

512
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Speaker 1: Red Sox or I don't know at any team. He

513
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Speaker 1: signs with the Chicago Cubs, who they don't spend money.

514
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Speaker 1: That's it.

515
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Speaker 3: That's a joke.

516
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Speaker 1: He signs with the Phillies and we have to play

517
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Speaker 1: Marfienza's every day at first base again, I will fucking

518
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Speaker 1: lose my mind. It's not it's the combination of I

519
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Speaker 1: want Pete back, Pete's awesome again. Monk qualified first base.

520
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Speaker 1: We had the highest WRC plus this year. Mister Kurtz

521
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Speaker 1: had close to qualified, and he was way better, but

522
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Speaker 1: Pete was at number two. He's an elite hitter, There's

523
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Speaker 1: no doubt about it. At the plate, he's elite. The

524
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Speaker 1: contract's gonna be weird. The other the kicker here too

525
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Speaker 1: is my favorite guy, Mark Fiento's then getting even more

526
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Speaker 1: playing time at a position where he's definitely gonna be

527
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Speaker 1: just as bad, if not worse.

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Speaker 2: And also it's funny that we were recording this now

529
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Speaker 2: because Will Samon, like I talked about before, just came

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Speaker 2: out with a piece for the Athletic and in it

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Speaker 2: he talked very specifically as grow every single piece of

532
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Speaker 2: Mets content. This Offse's will lead with the ped Alonzo

533
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Speaker 2: situation about internal options the first base because that's what

534
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Speaker 2: the nightmare scenario was. It's losing Pete and not finding

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Speaker 2: some kind of way to cush in that fall, whether

536
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Speaker 2: it be Josh Naylor, if the gel winds up shorter

537
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Speaker 2: and better than Peter Lion's, whether or not be finding

538
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Speaker 2: some kind of fun platoon thing to do with Ryan O'Hearn,

539
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Speaker 2: and I don't know who then. Mark Vienta's marks remains

540
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Speaker 2: on this roster, but Will Samon specifically talked about internal

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Speaker 2: options exist. Some evaluators view first base as a position

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Speaker 2: that players with experience and other spots can move to

543
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Speaker 2: and generally figure things out. Similarly, other clubs choose to

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Speaker 2: platoon at the position. To those points, it wouldn't be

545
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Speaker 2: out of the question for the Mets to upgrade defensively

546
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Speaker 2: at second base and ask Jeff McNeil, a left handed bather,

547
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Speaker 2: to play some first base. People familiar with the clubs

548
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Speaker 2: thinking suggested it's likely the club would also think about

549
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Speaker 2: Mark Fiento's or Brett Bailey as first base options too.

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Speaker 1: I hate this.

551
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Speaker 3: I don't like this, Sason.

552
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Speaker 1: This is upsetting to my stomach right now. The idea

553
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Speaker 1: of Mark Viento's getting like three hundred play appearances next year.

554
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Speaker 1: It gives me, it gives me. Ajita canay some about

555
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Speaker 1: Mark Vento's No.

556
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Speaker 2: So the Steamer projections came out with Fangrafts a few

557
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Speaker 2: days ago, this first projection system to come out every year.

558
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Speaker 2: Mark Fiantos projected to have the eighteenth most home runs

559
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Speaker 2: in baseball?

560
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Speaker 1: Are they smoking crack? That's almost the biggest disservice they

561
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Speaker 1: could have ever done to their projections him having the

562
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Speaker 1: eighteenth most home runs in Major League Baseball. And I'm

563
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Speaker 1: sorry to everybody who I'm sure sure works very hard

564
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Speaker 1: at Steamer. Bad projection system.

565
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Speaker 3: It's broken.

566
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Speaker 1: It's broken, it don't work.

567
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Speaker 3: It's come out good the last few years.

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Speaker 2: It's projecting him also have six hundred play appearances, which

569
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Speaker 2: is a big part of that. But at the same time,

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Speaker 2: it's him at twenty eight home runs. It's usually very

571
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Speaker 2: low on power.

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Speaker 1: Okay, right, yeah, so that it's different than like them

573
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Speaker 1: being like thirty eight.

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Speaker 3: Yes, but that's where it is.

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Speaker 2: I think with six hundred play appearances they have him

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Speaker 2: with a three ten on base percentage and at twenty

577
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Speaker 2: eight home runs.

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Speaker 1: What's it?

579
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Speaker 3: Do they do?

580
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Speaker 1: Ops?

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Speaker 3: They do ops? They do do ops.

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Speaker 1: I gets you the ops right here, I'll tell you

583
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Speaker 1: what I mean again, just keeping on some gambling topic here,

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Speaker 1: I'd be taking the unders on all of Mark Fiento's

585
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Speaker 1: next year, no matter where he plays, especially because.

586
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Speaker 2: If the Mets are really committed to be a seven

587
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Speaker 2: to seventy ops in between way too high, in between

588
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Speaker 2: Carlos Korea and Jack Caglion, No fucking way, I mean

589
00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:12,560
Speaker 2: just below mast Tako Yoshi. Again, it's at one projection

590
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Speaker 2: system of many. But the last year, a big reason

591
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Speaker 2: that we liked ret Baty was because the projectorism still

592
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Speaker 2: loved him when everyone else in the world seemed to

593
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Speaker 2: hate him.

594
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Speaker 1: But I only like when they fit my agenda. I don't.

595
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Speaker 1: That's not a one when they go against what I think.

596
00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:25,720
Speaker 2: But again, this is part of the nightmare off season

597
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Speaker 2: is if the Mets lose pi Alanzo's bat and don't

598
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Speaker 2: really jump to improve elsewhere, Like if you wind up

599
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Speaker 2: pulling off the trade magic salaries for Katel Marte and

600
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Speaker 2: Jeff Bigdeal moves to first base and that's how he

601
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Speaker 2: replace pi Alanso offensive production.

602
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Speaker 3: I won't really be very upset about that.

603
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Speaker 1: Truel Marte is going to help this team win more

604
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Speaker 1: than Pee Alonzo. That being said, it's not a guarantee,

605
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Speaker 1: so it's still a scary, scary idea of the New

606
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Speaker 1: York Mets without Pee Alonso.

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Speaker 2: And especially also in this in this piece by Will

608
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Speaker 2: sam And he said the Mets aren't really interested right

609
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Speaker 2: now in either when you're talking more Kami or Cozumo

610
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Speaker 2: Okamoto come and goes.

611
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Speaker 3: From Japan, two guys are both very different.

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Speaker 2: We'll probably wind up talking about those guys at some

613
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Speaker 2: point over the next few weeks here as we maybe

614
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Speaker 2: do a whole episode about options the first base besides Pilonzo.

615
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Speaker 2: But then just to really lock in this Night medscenario

616
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Speaker 2: before we move on. Great line here from Will as

617
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Speaker 2: in the sign Start did something similar years ago with

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Speaker 2: the Milwaukee Brewers when he moved Keston Heira from second

619
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Speaker 2: base to first base and signed defensive wiz ter Colton

620
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Speaker 2: Wong to ballster.

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Speaker 3: The infield up the middle.

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Speaker 2: I think that's where a lot of Mess fans right

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Speaker 2: now are like, that's my Night Med scenario. You like

624
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Speaker 2: pe Alonzo walk, Jeff mcfeald, Mark Fiento is your first

625
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Speaker 2: base platoon who probably wind up for the season running

626
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Speaker 2: two A seven to fifty oh ps one to ten

627
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Speaker 2: WRC plus thirty five homers combined, you hope, and then

628
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Speaker 2: you get some kind of just defensive specialist up to middle.

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Speaker 1: That sounds like a nightmare to Meme. Don't want to

630
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Speaker 1: talk about it anymore. Number four, no big splashes for

631
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Speaker 1: this lineup. They just are like, fuck it, let's run

632
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Speaker 1: it back with that same team. They got to play

633
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Speaker 1: better because we know that this team does need to

634
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Speaker 1: make some changes. While they still kind of ranked well offensively,

635
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Speaker 1: we know how much of the heavy lifting was done

636
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Speaker 1: by Wan Soto. And then if you include Pete on

637
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,879
Speaker 1: there too, I bet you that's probably gonna make the

638
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:08,680
Speaker 1: Mets one of the worst offensive teams. It's a little

639
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:10,680
Speaker 1: unfair to say you take the good hitters off any team,

640
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 1: they're gonna be worse. But this team needs some help

641
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 1: like Lindor Alonso Soto. Those were the guys last year

642
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 1: that really did anything exceptionally well offensively. The bottom of

643
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 1: the lineup was a problem. Centerfield was a big issue,

644
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Speaker 1: big issue. Dh was a big issue. We gotta gotta

645
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Speaker 1: shore up some more bats in this team.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that would be the part of again Mark

647
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Speaker 2: fansis being an every tape player. Hey, some of you

648
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:32,720
Speaker 2: guys out there might be so very confident Mark fans

649
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:34,439
Speaker 2: two years ago, it was.

650
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Speaker 3: One of the best right handed hitters the National League.

651
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Speaker 2: It's true it happened, but like if this scenario happens,

652
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Speaker 2: where the Mets focused the entire offseason defense, which seems

653
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:43,800
Speaker 2: like there's a chances happens, like a big part of

654
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:44,200
Speaker 2: a chance.

655
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:44,879
Speaker 3: Big part of.

656
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:48,200
Speaker 2: Drawing out these nightmare scenarios is that they don't seem

657
00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:51,240
Speaker 2: like the most unlikely things individually, and I think.

658
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,440
Speaker 1: Individually I could see it altogether.

659
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:58,160
Speaker 2: Again, drive the car off the road, So you want

660
00:25:58,160 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 2: to point them out, just like the dream scenario last

661
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,040
Speaker 2: last week. But also in the dream scenario, we need

662
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:03,720
Speaker 2: to talk about Kyle Tucker, which I think is interesting.

663
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 2: I don't think the mess have been linked to Tucker

664
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 2: at all.

665
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,399
Speaker 1: But Jim bowdenn't put him in his article. I was like,

666
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 1: my turn't spending that money on Kyle Tucker.

667
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:10,840
Speaker 3: No, of course not.

668
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 2: But there's weirdly murmurs of Kyle Tucker's market being more

669
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 2: suppressed than I ever would have imagined, Like there's some

670
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:19,920
Speaker 2: stuff coming there is it seems like there's a little

671
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 2: bit of disrespect drifting out here and there about Kyle Tucker,

672
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 2: which is.

673
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 1: Weird because he's unbelievable. He does all the stuff that

674
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:27,159
Speaker 1: you'd ever like. I don't know what there is to

675
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:28,439
Speaker 1: dislike about Kyle Tucker.

676
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:30,440
Speaker 2: If you can get three years of Kyle Tucker and

677
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:31,959
Speaker 2: pay him like an Lee player, I would do that

678
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 2: in such a second. It's not that big of an

679
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,399
Speaker 2: investment to put in on it for you, just I

680
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 2: think that'd be something that would be great for this

681
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 2: team to do. But again, if losing Pete, focusing everything

682
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,440
Speaker 2: on defense, not kicking the tires on Tucker, not kicking

683
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,119
Speaker 2: tires on Schwarber, and then seeing not really letting the

684
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 2: katel Luis, Robert Bobashett, those markets also kind of dissipating,

685
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 2: in which I do think is very possible.

686
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:54,240
Speaker 3: There's a really funny.

687
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 2: Exchange on Twitter last week that I'm trying to find,

688
00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 2: oh yeah from Mark Heely, So Mark he Ye, great

689
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 2: person in the Mets world, right or everything. One thing

690
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,400
Speaker 2: worries me about potential Mets moves this winter the lack

691
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 2: of any real actionable intel into the team's plans from

692
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 2: the folks who cover the team. Many feel the no

693
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,159
Speaker 2: leak's reality is a good thing. When it's combined with

694
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 2: the unpredictability of David Stearns, it's frustrating. And then from

695
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 2: the clouds of all the people in the world, Steve

696
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 2: Cohen replies, Mark, I like operating this way. If you

697
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 2: call Alex, she'll tell you everything.

698
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 1: Insane tweet from both sos.

699
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,440
Speaker 2: But it is funny because Mark he ELEI does come

700
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,360
Speaker 2: from the old world of the Mets beat, which again

701
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:33,440
Speaker 2: I think I think Mark still also really good piece

702
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 2: of the Mets world. But from the whol pond seem

703
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:37,479
Speaker 2: like everyone knew everything, like it was these things were

704
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 2: coming out left.

705
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,440
Speaker 1: And right, and we know what was going on back there.

706
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,680
Speaker 2: So like, yeah, these exercises are fun at least for Mark,

707
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:45,159
Speaker 2: and I hope they're fun for you guys watching and

708
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 2: listening as well. Is because we're just we're just trying

709
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:49,919
Speaker 2: to get inside people's minds, like we're trying to figure

710
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:51,919
Speaker 2: things out. And that's kind of a joy of this

711
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,440
Speaker 2: time of year where there we don't know anything that's

712
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 2: fucking going on right now, Were's no clue where we're going.

713
00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:59,119
Speaker 1: Here's one thing I'm gonna say, I know we've been

714
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 1: saying that the Mets are gonna trade Jeff mcne all

715
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 1: this kind of stuff. MESSI to improve defense. What was

716
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,399
Speaker 1: MiG Deal's OA at second base last year, James, It

717
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:05,680
Speaker 1: was good.

718
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:08,159
Speaker 3: We talked about that last week was yeah.

719
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was four. That's like around the top ten

720
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 1: amongst second basement in Major League Baseball. While people have

721
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,440
Speaker 1: their qualms about Jeff mcinil, we've talked about that, maybe

722
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,919
Speaker 1: it's just time to move on from him. Defensively at

723
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 1: second base, he does fit the need that David Seartns

724
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:23,400
Speaker 1: has talked about where if he's going to be playing

725
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 1: second base every single day, Brett baty at third base

726
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:28,880
Speaker 1: every single day. Maybe again they can kind of look

727
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 1: past defense at first base or a different position and

728
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,120
Speaker 1: you go get a big bat, which would be nice.

729
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,400
Speaker 2: And again maybe this also comes with the fact that

730
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 2: something happens with brand Nemo, either he accepts dhing a

731
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 2: good bit more or you just find the way the

732
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 2: match salary. You know, Paul de Badesta was just was

733
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 2: just signed, which became the lead executive to run the Rockies,

734
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 2: which is he hasn't even been in baseball for a

735
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 2: long time.

736
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 1: He wasn't one of the worst NFL trades ever ever.

737
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 2: Probably one of the worst trades in the history of sports,

738
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 2: acquiring a sexual deviant and giving them the most guarantee

739
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 2: money the game's ever seen. For I think where did

740
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 2: four three first rapicks.

741
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 1: Was with DeShawn Watson right graduated from Clemson.

742
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 3: I believe they did graduate Clemson.

743
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 1: Going to put the one out there, but.

744
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 3: Waldi podesto 'sed been the Mets front office.

745
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 1: Yes, you know we drafted Brandon. Put that out there,

746
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 1: and you know what team Brandon Nimmo grew up rooting

747
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 1: for as a kid.

748
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 3: It's probably no trade clause.

749
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 1: Maybe that's the one place he'll go, like, you know,

750
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna live a great life out in here Colorado.

751
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 2: Probably the only place. I don't know what you have

752
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 2: to do to take to figure that one out. But again,

753
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:30,719
Speaker 2: not that we want to trade brand Nemo. But if

754
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 2: the Mets want to get more athletic on other places

755
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 2: in the field, and they want to four go defensive

756
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 2: first base, it makes sense to find athleticis in the

757
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 2: corner outflee. So also no will Sam radical so that

758
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 2: there's still no talking about dh want So though he's

759
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 2: the right fielder absolutely so. I think it's because of

760
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 2: the arm thing, and like you said, second of the year,

761
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 2: he was completely average in right field, which with that

762
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 2: bad as incredible incredible. He does still have a really

763
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 2: good arm, like the Mets don't have that many good arms,

764
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 2: especially because it was a lot of brand Nemo last

765
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 2: year in the outfield in Cedric Mullins in center field

766
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 2: towards the end.

767
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 3: But you feel having that arm.

768
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 2: But now this is just kind of how will wrap

769
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 2: up the nightmare scenario everything we just gave you, match

770
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 2: it all together, spit it back out this mess the

771
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 2: mess Bays give the same team next year without Pilanza Redmond.

772
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 1: Yes, it's basically just let's get that let's get that

773
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 1: luxury tax a little bit lower and see if we

774
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 1: can do better than we did in the year that

775
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 1: was incredibly disappointing, which that would truly be the worst scenario.

776
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 1: Same team, no Pete, no Edwin. I don't know how

777
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 1: this team could make the playoffs without those two guys.

778
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 2: And I also think there's no way this will happen.

779
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 2: I really don't think what we just said, there's no

780
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 2: way those four things all coalesced the same time to

781
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 2: let this be true, Like there's no way we go

782
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:34,959
Speaker 2: into next year with Mark Fanzo's the first basement and

783
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 2: like Ronnie as the DH, like that just it simply

784
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 2: can't happen. There's no way next year Abrada Alzel's closing

785
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 2: games in March, like it's just that's not going to

786
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 2: be a thing that in April.

787
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 3: That won't be a thing that happens.

788
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 1: But and I know that people are there. They're such

789
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 1: a strong group of people that are anti David Sterns,

790
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 1: and I think from a winning standpoint, you're allowed to

791
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 1: feel that way. Last year was a mega disappointment, even

792
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 1: though the year before we made to the NLCS, but

793
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 1: mega disappointment last year. I think you have every right

794
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 1: to be upset with David Sterns. But the same time,

795
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 1: I think to assume that he's going to operate as

796
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 1: if this is the Milwaukee Brewers, because that's the lazy

797
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 1: take you can have and wake up in the morning

798
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 1: be like he was the Brewers guy. He's gonna treat

799
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 1: the Mets like the brewis. I don't. I don't think

800
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 1: there's been any indication that he is going to run

801
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 1: the Mets in that way, So I think it is

802
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 1: actually stupid to think that he's going to do it

803
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 1: that way.

804
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 3: No, clearly not.

805
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 2: Since David Serns became the league executive for the Mets,

806
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 2: they've offered the largest starting pitching contract in history of baseball.

807
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 1: That's that's nope, that's not David Searns. It's Steve coe

808
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 1: When when you spend a lot of money, it's Steve

809
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 1: Cohen when he when you make bad moves, it's David Surts.

810
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 1: Don't forget that.

811
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 2: Of course, they also kind of handled the Pete thing

812
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 2: kind of perfectly last offseason and still.

813
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,480
Speaker 3: Don't do it again. What's going to happen this offseason

814
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 3: with that?

815
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 1: Then Pete three for one hundred is gonna hit like crack.

816
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 2: The fear, honestly is if these nightmare scenaris happen, then

817
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 2: get my nightmare scenario. If all of these nightmare things

818
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 2: happen and then we start tilting in the middle of

819
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 2: the market. I don't want to be tilting in the

820
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 2: middle of the market. I do not want to give

821
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 2: up the QO to give Zach Gallon of four years.

822
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 1: We don't want Frankie Montes again.

823
00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 2: No, that's I think again, that's where David stearns that

824
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 2: last offseason it was too much middle of the market.

825
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 2: We got one or so other at the top, and

826
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 2: it was kind of filling these things in the middle.

827
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 2: I do think that there's a really sustainable path forward

828
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 2: for the Mets over the next few years of we

829
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 2: got good ass farm system right now, we have a

830
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 2: lot of players ready to come up and rip Mets

831
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 2: right now again the sixth the fifth best farm system

832
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 2: all Baseball, and most of that talent is Kinragay at

833
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 2: the top. You're going to get Carson Bench in the

834
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 2: major league next year. You're probably going to.

835
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 3: Get Jet Williams. You might you might sneak and get

836
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 3: a j Ewing if things go crazy.

837
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 1: And Ran Clifford at some point.

838
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 2: You might get Ryan Cliffe at some point. Not saying

839
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 2: that those guys are replacements for the night missionary of

840
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 2: guys we're talking about here, but there is something about

841
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 2: baseball being this kind of team game, and we saw

842
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 2: it this year with the fucking Blue Jays, Like you

843
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 2: don't need to start their position. You need a few

844
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 2: stars to stir the drink together. I'm not saying you

845
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 2: don't need that. You need good pitchers and you guys

846
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 2: are ball playing through velocity. But there's something about this,

847
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 2: just this feeling of goodness that can come from when

848
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 2: the team starts to play like a team. I was

849
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 2: in It was in a pub and Newcastle over the weekend.

850
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:00,160
Speaker 2: I was talking to a majority over there about why

851
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 2: the team's felt bad this year but basically the same

852
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 2: roster with a bit more investment in it compared to

853
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 2: the last season when they had their best Premier League

854
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 2: season a while in the Champions now rip Champions League

855
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 2: now ripping two. But they suck ass in the Premier League.

856
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 2: And he said, last year we had this can never

857
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,959
Speaker 2: quit attitude the guys. It was such good team cohesion.

858
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 2: No one believed in them, but they believe themselves. Then

859
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 2: they got a little ahead of their skis. They got

860
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:21,720
Speaker 2: a little too confident, kind of fell apart when Peo

861
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 2: people realized how good they were and they thought they

862
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 2: were good.

863
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 1: I mean, it's really conversation we had with the team

864
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 1: this year. It was like twenty twenty four. They were

865
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 1: just that was just happening with vibes they were playing baseball.

866
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 1: This year they felt a little pressure, a little target

867
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 1: on their back, and they ship their down their paintings.

868
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 1: They didn't play well.

869
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 3: Do you think they mast have target on their back

870
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 3: this year?

871
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 1: No, they felt interesting. I'll never say they.

872
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 2: Bring that one back on their back. You guys out there,

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Speaker 2: remember that one. You guys all remember that one. But

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Speaker 2: there could there just could be something to that, Like

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Speaker 2: it might feel like a nightmare off season the end

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Speaker 2: of the day.

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Speaker 3: If we do lose these pillars of our organization.

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Speaker 2: And I really think there's less than ten percent chance

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00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 2: we lose both, I think it might be a at

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Speaker 2: least fifty percent chance we lose at least one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's a Quinn slip.

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00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: But at the same time, probably twenty percent chance we

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Speaker 2: keep both, which is probably kind of shitty to say

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Speaker 2: in here right now. Maybe thirty five percent chance. But

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Speaker 2: these that's that's fucking baseball. Like, we got a lot

887
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:13,800
Speaker 2: of young kids in the system. We have two legit

888
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Speaker 2: top ten players in the hole league, superstars at the

889
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 2: top that are going to keep this team good at

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Speaker 2: least good, not great, but good no matter what. Last year,

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Speaker 2: we have fucking twenty four year old pitch look like

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Speaker 2: a damn ace from the second step on the field,

893
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Speaker 2: Like there's a lot of exciting things that are still

894
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Speaker 2: on this team. We need a lot of reinforcements, need

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Speaker 2: a lot of help.

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Speaker 3: But this guys, you gouyas. Let the team get on

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Speaker 3: the field first.

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Speaker 1: Yes, you need the team to get on the field

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Speaker 1: and make some noise, do something, make some changes because

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Speaker 1: they were way too buy as bad as they were

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Speaker 1: last year. Play a little baseball. That's it for this

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Speaker 1: one though, guys, thank you so much for watching. Make

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Speaker 3: At jams Ciano.

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Speaker 1: I'm draftneck Mark. Thank you guys for watching, listening. We'll

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Speaker 1: catch you on the next one.

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Speaker 3: Peace out seconds. Let's going the love.

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Speaker 1: And then the brow and then the