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Speaker 2: Harrison dies for the up zone. He's in touchdow Hound.

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Speaker 3: What a pick at the thirty five yard line by

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Speaker 3: Mac Wilson.

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Speaker 2: For a Loss by guess who Collas Campbell.

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Speaker 1: The latest news and notes from the insiders who cover

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Speaker 1: the team.

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Speaker 4: Touchdown Trey McBride.

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Speaker 3: Heck of a play by the all world tight end

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Speaker 3: Trey McBride.

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Speaker 2: Oh, that was nasty right there, right slam the ground

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Speaker 2: by Budda Baker like a torpedo. He came flying into

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Speaker 2: the backfield. I ain't scared of nobody.

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Speaker 1: Here's Paul Calvic, all right.

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Speaker 5: I realized that everybody's not necessarily waiting to hear from me.

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Speaker 5: At the opening of this Cardinals Underground, myself, Paul Calvic,

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Speaker 5: Danny Shrek. But I'm thinking to myself, do we need

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Speaker 5: to construct this podcast differently than normal? Because as we

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Speaker 5: record this, guys, we've heard lots of names in terms

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Speaker 5: of what the coach is going to be, but there

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Speaker 5: has been no final decision, and in the wonderful world

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Speaker 5: of quickly moving news in the NFL, who knows how

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Speaker 5: long this podcast will be up, if at all.

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Speaker 4: So should we just put a bow on it right here?

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Speaker 5: Well, I'm what I'm thinking is should we do one

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Speaker 5: of those old school things where we just we get

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Speaker 5: real vague with everything we say and then we can

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Speaker 5: drop in names later, Like if I sit here and say,

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Speaker 5: you know, I think that Moon goes who or is

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Speaker 5: going to be a really good coach for the Arizona Cardinals,

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Speaker 5: and we'll just leave a bunch of blanks.

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Speaker 3: I mean, do you think that would work?

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Speaker 2: Well? If you watched any of the ESPN Hot Take

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Speaker 2: shows recently, you know they've been talking in such generics

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Speaker 2: that it really doesn't matter who they're talking about.

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Speaker 3: Also a good point, you know.

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Speaker 2: So, I mean, it's been done before at a very

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Speaker 2: high level.

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Speaker 4: Not I. I don't ever mail it in and I

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Speaker 4: would not like to start now that's fair.

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Speaker 2: So are you saying that this episode of Cardinal's Underground,

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Speaker 2: brought to you by Pacific Office Automation, might have a

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Speaker 2: little shorter shelf life or expiration date than others.

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Speaker 3: Well, let's put it this way.

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Speaker 5: I've already had a certain person that runs the board

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Speaker 5: back there who already asked, are we prepared to do

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Speaker 5: another episode as.

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Speaker 3: Soon as we name a coach, which is possible.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, the reality of the situation is we don't

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Speaker 2: know the timeframe either. No, we could be here next

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Speaker 2: week without a coach. Well, we don't know.

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Speaker 5: I will say this, I do think that I think

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Speaker 5: that NFL teams are discouraged strongly from bringing up any

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Speaker 5: coaching news during Super Bowl Week. So if we get

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Speaker 5: to night and there's not official news yet from the Cardinals,

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Speaker 5: I think we will go another week because I don't

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Speaker 5: I don't think anything comes up. And in fact, if

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Speaker 5: we get to that point, that might point to different

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Speaker 5: things as well as we can all guess. I mean, look,

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Speaker 5: let's look at what happened the last time the Cardinals

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Speaker 5: were trying to hire a head coach. It turned out

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Speaker 5: to be the defensive coordinator of one of the teams

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Speaker 5: that was playing, so they had a way.

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Speaker 4: You're saying, that's a possibility for maybe an offensive coordinator

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Speaker 2: We're talking under our breath when Kubiak might be the

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Speaker 4: Thomas Brown with the Patriots.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I think at this point, until we know,

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Speaker 5: we're not going to know. We've seen all the second

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Speaker 5: We've seen all the reports of second interviews. We've seen

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Speaker 5: the report of the second interview for Anthony Weaver, We've

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Speaker 5: seen one for Anthony camp and Elea neele Nelly.

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Speaker 4: Anthony Campinelli with the Jags.

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Speaker 3: Is it definitely Campinelli?

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Speaker 5: Because okay, well that doesn't mean it's true, but okay,

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Speaker 3: Mike Lafleur, So, I mean.

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Speaker 5: What what happens from here?

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Speaker 3: I mean, I would think that we're going to have

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Speaker 2: So how much weight do you put into the fact

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Speaker 2: grasping for straws here, trying to if the latest interviewee

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Speaker 2: is Mike Lafleur on a two day arrival according to reports,

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Speaker 2: how much more weight do we put into that? Because

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Speaker 5: I'm glad you brought that up. There's a couple things

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Speaker 5: he's also the one who had a game on Sunday,

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Speaker 5: so almost by necessity, he had to be the last one.

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Speaker 5: And that's number one. Number two, I get that there

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Speaker 5: was all these reports that he had a quote unquote

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Speaker 5: two day trip. I wouldn't be surprised if Anthony Weaver

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Speaker 5: came in the day before his thing and had dinner

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Speaker 4: Agent just chose not to, and the agent just.

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Speaker 3: Didn't talk about this.

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Speaker 4: That's not really a big deal. I mean, I don't

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Speaker 4: want to spoil the fun. But when I came out

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Speaker 4: the day before for dinner. I interview nice all right,

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Speaker 4: first person, that for what you will to.

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Speaker 2: The front lines of the Cardinal's hiring process via Danny sirra, I.

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Speaker 3: Guess you did not have a very expensive steak.

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Speaker 4: However, I'm not going to tell you where we went

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Speaker 4: or what I had. That is between myself, Kyle d'roni,

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Speaker 2: There you go, exactly why Darren perhaps is not running

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Speaker 2: that hiring process because you got to have closers, Darren,

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Speaker 2: you got to come in with a steak dinner and

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Speaker 2: close the deal.

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Speaker 3: I've taken my share of interviewees out to food, not me,

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Speaker 3: not you.

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Speaker 4: Okay, you can make it up at Saint Elmo's where

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Speaker 4: the shrimp cocktails nineteen ninety five when we go for

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Speaker 4: the combine in a month, right, Paul, did I get

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Speaker 4: the number?

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 2: That's that it is a ding. We'll get a ding

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Speaker 2: on the nineteen ninety five. Absolutely, it's a rare flex

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Speaker 2: for yours truly. And here's the thing though, what is

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Speaker 2: the expense report going to look like for those of you,

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Speaker 2: apparently not yours truly going to Super Bowl sixty in

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Speaker 2: the Bay Area? What is that? Especially with fits?

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Speaker 4: Are you expense?

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Speaker 3: First of all expense? There is no we get our prettyum, Paul.

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Speaker 2: Are you staying in Gilroy or Morgan Hill? Like I mean,

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Speaker 2: those those hotel rooms are booked out way in advance.

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Speaker 3: We will be at the airport, thank you.

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Speaker 2: Really, that's not too bad. Actually no, it's like less

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Speaker 5: But see, nothing's at the stadium, so it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 5: The only thing that the only thing that's at the

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Speaker 3: Everything else is down.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, everything's downtown in the city.

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Speaker 5: And the NFL Honors where they will be presenting hopefully

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Speaker 5: Larry Fitzgerald in the Hall of Fame class on Thursday night.

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Speaker 5: That's at the Palace of Fine Arts.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so I will give If you're going in rush hour,

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Speaker 3: Far I'm not.

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Speaker 5: I'm not a Bay Area native like yourself, Paul, but

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Speaker 5: i am super familiar with the Bay Area. I've been

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Speaker 5: so I'm very familiar. But hey, the great thing about

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Speaker 5: the NFL Honors is you have to be there like

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Speaker 5: six hours before it.

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Speaker 3: Starts as a media member. So don't worry. We'll beat

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Speaker 3: the trial.

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Speaker 4: And for those of you who don't know Darren, that

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Speaker 4: means they will be their eight hours. Wow, the amount

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Speaker 4: of time they have to be.

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Speaker 2: There, Man, lamp has been lit. I mean, is somebody

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Speaker 2: already off time You're talking like a hockey hat trick

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Speaker 2: already this.

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Speaker 3: Year, not five minutes earlier.

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Speaker 2: Late NFL Honors twenty seventeen when Larry got the Walter

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Speaker 2: Paydon Manny the Year Award with Eli Manning and we

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Speaker 2: were in Houston and that was about a two hour drive.

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Speaker 2: That's one of the biggest metro areas I've ever seen, Houston, Texas,

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Speaker 2: Holy Cow. A lot of paid in Houston. So if

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Speaker 2: we're talking about familiarity, and as long as you're talking

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Speaker 2: about the Niners backyard, what do you make of Mike

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Speaker 2: Lafleur in his NFC West connection, How much more of

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Speaker 2: presumed supposed finalists who got second interviews that you just named.

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Speaker 4: It'd be silly to say there's no advantage when the

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Speaker 4: NFC West is as competitive as it was in the

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Speaker 4: Rams were as good as they were, especially offensively. Just

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Speaker 4: as much as an advantage of Lafleur having that coaching

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Speaker 4: the Sean McVay tree. Now McVeigh calls plays in LA

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Speaker 4: doesn't mean that Lafleur isn't learning and Laflour actually called

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Speaker 4: then when you look at who the Cardinals have and

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Speaker 4: their personnel, try McBride, Marvin Harrison, junior, Michael Wilson. If

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Speaker 4: I mean, that would be a fun offense to watch

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Speaker 5: There's a couple of different things you mentioned the McVeigh part.

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Speaker 5: He's also worked under Kyle Shanahan, so.

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Speaker 2: He has for a long time a lot.

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Speaker 5: Of NFC West knowledge. The other thing, too, is and

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Speaker 5: I was talking to our good friend Robert earlier today,

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Speaker 5: we don't if he gets the head coaching job, we

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Speaker 5: don't know what they're going to do at offensive corner.

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Speaker 5: He might not call plays, he might bring somebody in

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Speaker 5: to call plays. I would assume he would want to

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Speaker 5: call plays since he hasn't had a chance in LA recently, and.

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Speaker 2: It's two mentors call plays.

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Speaker 5: But you don't know that for hundred percent fact, So

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Speaker 5: I'll be curious to see if he were to.

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Speaker 3: Be that guy.

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Speaker 5: I mean, with any of these candidates, who those coordinators

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Speaker 5: are is a I mean, the most important thing is

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Speaker 5: to find out who your head coach is, and that's

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Speaker 5: the first thing. But obviously you know, and we've been

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Speaker 5: especially Paul, like, who those coordinators end up being is

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Speaker 5: a big deal. Now, if if he does call plays,

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Speaker 5: We and I know this gets frustrating sometimes for people

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Speaker 5: And as Danny noted, he's not calling the floor is

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Speaker 5: I think I think that was after because Zach Wilson

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Speaker 2: Guess what earlier today? What happened the Jets fire their

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Speaker 4: People are giving grace for Robert Sala. He was there,

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Speaker 2: Well, speaking of Jonathan Gannon, now the defensive coordinator for

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so that is very interesting and we'll see how

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Speaker 5: The Cardinals, I mean, I think again, I think we

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Speaker 3: I mean, those are the things you've got to figure

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Speaker 5: The other question I keep getting is what exactly are

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Speaker 5: You want a guy with a plan, and I'm assuming

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Speaker 2: This last week, and if they win the press conference,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna hear the word culture a lot between now

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Speaker 2: I really do.

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Speaker 3: I thought for a minute that you're gonna say you

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Speaker 4: No, but I'm forget Carson Palmer. Here's the hat.

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Speaker 2: Feel free to ask me about Carson Palmer at any

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Speaker 4: Is that your mailbag question?

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Speaker 5: I don't know was somebody asked about, Hey the bills?

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Speaker 5: Just talk to Philip Rivers? What about Carson Palmer? There

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Speaker 3: I missed that opportunit.

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Speaker 2: Where was I? Oh, Diana Tarrossi's definition of culture is

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Speaker 2: So you know, great, you might have a couple of

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Speaker 3: That, Okay, I know. Remind me I have a tweet

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Speaker 3: I need to bring up later when we talk about.

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Speaker 2: The right after we get Cultured with Danny, Danny will segue.

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Speaker 4: To here getting cultured with Danny. It is not just

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Speaker 2: Paul, am I the deep uncultured philistine around here.

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Speaker 3: Yes, you got me very excited.

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Speaker 4: Now I am on social media and consume more at

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Speaker 2: I think I'm being unfairly profiled. But go ahead, what go.

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Speaker 4: Getting cultured is on two pages this week, but I

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Speaker 4: will keep it fast. Well, I'm not known for making

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Speaker 2: So this is like a big waiting room anyway, as

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Speaker 2: we wait the news. Why not go ahead? We got

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Speaker 2: some over here we go.

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Speaker 4: Paul, are you caught up on the Beckham family drama?

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Speaker 2: I saw something this, okay?

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Speaker 4: So is it basically it's drama with a capital D?

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Speaker 2: Is it basically one of the kids who's most responsible

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Speaker 2: for all the drama because didn't the entire family go

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Speaker 2: on a vacation except one kid.

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Speaker 4: It's all about perspective, Paul. So the drama is Aaron

446
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Speaker 4: family drama isn't necessarily new, but recently a new perspective

447
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Speaker 4: was shared. So there's been rift between Brooklyn, their oldest son.

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Speaker 4: I believe they have three kids of David Beckham and

449
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Speaker 4: Victoria Beckham aka Posh Spice, who I grew up loving.

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Speaker 4: So when Brooklyn got married in twenty twenty two, he

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Speaker 4: married a daughter of a billionaire investor. Okay, so also

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Speaker 4: all off not not marrying him for money, and their

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Speaker 4: son Brooklyn is claiming that his parents try to sabotage

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Speaker 4: and control their relationship and make them come to all

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Speaker 4: these agreements before the wedding. And he and his wife

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Speaker 4: were not at David Beckham's fiftieth birthday party last May,

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Speaker 4: so a couple of years after getting married, they were

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Speaker 4: not at fiftieth birthday party.

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Speaker 2: So this is the Beckham's, not the Royal family.

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Speaker 5: By the way, well, they are British and a lot

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Speaker 5: of people see them more of a royal family than

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Speaker 5: the royal family.

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Speaker 4: I mean, she's a Spice girl. So they got married

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Speaker 4: in twenty twenty two and twenty twenty five decided to

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Speaker 4: do a vow renewal without the rest of the Beckham

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Speaker 4: family because there's some Brooklyn recently posted like five different

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Speaker 4: Instagram stories about how he felt his parents ruined their wedding.

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Speaker 4: So he claimed that his parents one have gone to

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Speaker 4: the press over the years to share drama, and then

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Speaker 4: initially Victoria his mom supposedly backed out of designing the

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Speaker 4: wedding dress for his bride, but then it came out no, no, no,

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Speaker 4: it just couldn't be done in time. And Brooklyn recently

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Speaker 4: said that his mom quote danced inappropriately at the wedding

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Speaker 4: and quote hijacked what was supposed to be a romantic

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Speaker 4: first dance with his bride. And then his dad, David Beckham,

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Speaker 4: went to social media after all these Instagram stories were

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Speaker 4: posted and said that all of his children make mistakes.

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Speaker 4: So I don't know that this is getting settled anytime soon.

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Speaker 3: I think the way Danny has her hair right now,

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Speaker 3: she kind of looks like posh spunks a little man.

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Speaker 4: Are you saying that to make me feel better?

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Speaker 2: So, if I'm following it, the former Spice Girl stole

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Speaker 2: the show at the wedding?

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Speaker 4: Is that really her fault?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 2: I mean that's what she does, say spright, it's a

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Speaker 2: dance floor, she's going to perform.

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Speaker 5: Yes, I just I think if we can move on

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Speaker 5: from one thing in this world, it's mothers of never mind.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to leave that alone.

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Speaker 2: We In related news, I have a buddy of mine

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Speaker 2: who was about to pay for his daughter's wedding, and

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Speaker 2: now he's reconsidering because she's marrying a flaming Lakers fan

494
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Speaker 2: and he can't stand the Lakers, and now there's beef

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Speaker 2: between him and his future and off.

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Speaker 3: That's not real beef.

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Speaker 2: No, he takes sports way too seriously, not unlike you

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Speaker 2: and your basketball Darren.

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Speaker 4: Go ahead, Danny, Well how about this? What about climbing.

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Speaker 4: Did you guys see the skyscraper in Taiwan? Did you

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Speaker 4: see that live on Netflix?

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Speaker 2: Remarkable?

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Speaker 4: So Alex Hanould climbed one hundred and one stories in

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Speaker 4: Taiwan live. He did it in ninety minutes with no

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Speaker 4: harness and no safety net, which makes it the highest

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Speaker 4: free solo climb of an urban structure in history.

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Speaker 3: You don't know that my structures.

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Speaker 4: Okay, let's relax.

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Speaker 1: They did.

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Speaker 2: I see a study where they actually scan this guy's

511
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Speaker 2: brain and the part of the brain that senses fear.

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Speaker 3: He essentially doesn't feel fair.

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Speaker 4: He doesn't have fair.

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Speaker 2: He either had that removed or was born right now.

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Speaker 4: Someone who has worked in television for a good amount

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Speaker 4: of time. At this point. When I first turned it on,

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Speaker 4: my thought was, okay, from a production standpoint, how long

518
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Speaker 4: is the delay? If there's any sort of drama, right,

519
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Speaker 4: if there's anything that people should not be seeing live

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Speaker 4: on their television, how long is the delay? What kind

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Speaker 4: of permits an approval do they have to get for

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Speaker 4: this to be live? I mean, that's crazy.

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Speaker 2: Did he have one of those flying squirrel suits? I'm sorry, Darren?

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Speaker 2: Did he as a precaution?

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Speaker 4: No? He had no nothing.

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Speaker 5: Okay, I hate to cut off Getting Cultured. We have

527
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Speaker 5: breaking news.

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Speaker 4: We have a head coach.

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Speaker 5: Oh boy, we don't have a head coach, but we

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Speaker 5: know one that isn't going to be a head coach.

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Speaker 5: As the Jacksonville Jaguars announced that Anthony Campanelli will remain

532
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Speaker 5: with them for the twenty twenty six season, the plot thickens.

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Speaker 5: That's one of those ones where it's like, okay, is

534
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Speaker 5: he realizing he's not getting the job here?

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Speaker 4: It's kind of selfish, he interrupted, Getting Culture. I mean,

536
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Speaker 4: we were just talking about it for thirty minutes and

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Speaker 4: this is when the news chose to break.

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Speaker 2: So inconvenient the coaching news skits in the way of

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Speaker 2: getting culture.

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Speaker 4: Anyway, back to the skyscraper before we get back to football.

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Speaker 4: I'm curious the highest adrenaline activity you guys have or

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Speaker 4: would be willing to do. I'm assuming it's not skyscraping.

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Speaker 2: Walking down the aisles right up there. I'll give you

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Speaker 2: that one. Let's see here. Yeah, highest adrenaline activity. That's

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Speaker 2: a really good one.

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Speaker 4: I went skydiving for my twenty five birthday, which some

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Speaker 4: might call a quarter life crisis. I don't think that's

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Speaker 4: what it was. And then I went paragliding in the

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Speaker 4: Swiss Alps, which was beautiful. I would do both of

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Speaker 4: those again, although the older I get, the less I

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Speaker 4: feel like risking my life skydiving again. I feel like,

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Speaker 4: if I've already done it once, should I push my

553
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Speaker 4: luck and go again?

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Speaker 3: So are you asking the question of what we would do.

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Speaker 4: Or we have done if you've done like a high adrenaline.

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Speaker 5: I've never done a high thing because I don't even

557
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Speaker 5: like getting up near the like. We've been to the

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Speaker 5: Grand Canyon a couple of times and I won't get

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Speaker 5: within fifteen feet.

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Speaker 4: Oh I did that edge and again.

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Speaker 3: Body that I know, I get very upset if they

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Speaker 3: get anywhere near this.

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Speaker 4: I've done that in the past. I would not make

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Speaker 4: that mistake again.

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Speaker 2: So in my younger days, I was in one of

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Speaker 2: the old biplanes, like a nineteen forty Steermen open cockpit,

567
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Speaker 2: the old snoopy plane where you sit in the front

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Speaker 2: and the pilot is in the back, and there's a

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Speaker 2: couple of pedals and a big like joystick thing that

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Speaker 2: they're controlling it with and then they flip over and

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Speaker 2: you're hanging by the straps. The leather straps, that's what

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Speaker 2: you're hanging, but you can feel your body suspended just

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Speaker 2: by the straps a z here or whatever five thousand

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Speaker 2: feet above the ground with the leather helmet on and

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Speaker 2: the old goggles. I don't know. That was pretty much.

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Speaker 4: Well, you know where I do the draw the line though,

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Speaker 4: is bungee jumping. Do not trust that. And Paul, I

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Speaker 4: know as someone I know that you can always use

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Speaker 4: a little help when it comes to planning Valentine's Day.

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Speaker 4: So I've got you covered.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 4: Waffle House is spread the love. You can make a

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Speaker 4: reservation at one of two hundred participating locations, and there's

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Speaker 4: only one in Arizona participating and it's in Mesa, so

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Speaker 4: not that far. You could have a tablecloth and a

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Speaker 4: candle at dinner with special menu items like a heart

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Speaker 4: shaped waffle or some steak. They've been doing it since

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Speaker 4: two thousand and eight, but I wanted to let you

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Speaker 4: know that Mesa is the only participating location in Arizona

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Speaker 4: if you wanted to make a reservation on Valentine's Day

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Speaker 4: at a waffle house, so you both have been cultured,

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Speaker 4: You're welcome.

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Speaker 3: The entertainment portion of the evening will.

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Speaker 4: Be that is dinner in a movie.

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Speaker 3: We're beating the hell out of somebody behind us.

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Speaker 4: You know what, though, they really do some good customer service.

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Speaker 4: I remember one time I asked for rant for my

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Speaker 4: hash rounds and they fall and brought me the whole

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Speaker 4: bottle of ranch out of the fridge, not even a

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Speaker 4: side of rant.

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Speaker 3: I've been to waffle House exactly one time, and it

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Speaker 3: was at the It was actually during the Super Bowl

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Speaker 3: week when the Cardinals went in two thousand and eight.

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Speaker 2: Would this be a good time to segue into my

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Speaker 2: Holy can only stat of the week did you see

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Speaker 2: this in Business News? GLP ones These weight loss drugs

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Speaker 2: could save US airlines nearly six hundred million dollars per

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Speaker 2: year because Americans aren't as hefty and husky and the

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Speaker 2: planes way less, hence they need less fuel, which saves

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Speaker 2: the airlines fuel costs. How about that for a stat Yeah, wow,

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Speaker 2: All right, here we go, Seahawks Patriots. I'm just trying

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Speaker 2: to defray and speak in a waiting room. I'm waiting

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Speaker 2: to have to talk about the Seahawks in Super Bowl sixty.

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Speaker 3: We're going to talk about this real quick. It's interesting.

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Speaker 5: I just saw this tweet and not the one about

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Speaker 5: Campanialy not being made.

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Speaker 4: I think he's not gonna be our head coach because

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Speaker 4: you're struggling to say is last night?

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Speaker 5: Well, because I've heard it pronounce like multiple ways depending

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Speaker 5: on where you go and what announcers.

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Speaker 3: Talking about it. It doesn't matter, now, does it.

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Speaker 5: Somebody tweeted this out the Patriots schedule this season. This

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Speaker 5: is regular season Week one. These are obviously their opponents

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Speaker 5: Week one fired coach, Week two, fired coach, Week three,

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Speaker 5: fired coach, Week four, NFC South, Week five, fired coach,

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Speaker 5: Week six, NFC South week seven, fired coach, Week eight

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Speaker 5: fired coach, Week nine, fired coach Week ten, NFC South

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Speaker 5: Week eleven, Jets Week twelve, Bengals Week thirteen, fired coach,

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Speaker 5: Week fifteen, fired coach, Week sixteen, fired coach, Week seventeen,

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Speaker 5: Jets Week eighteen, fired coach.

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Speaker 4: Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 2: Wow. All right, here's speaking of tweets. Here's the last

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Speaker 2: decade AFC champions by season starting in twenty sixteen. Patriots, Patriots, Patriots,

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Speaker 2: Chiefs Chiefs, Bengals Chiefs, Chiefs, Chiefs now Patriots.

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Speaker 4: I know, Darren was you know, Paul, you were sick

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Speaker 4: of You had the Chiefs fatigue and now now look

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Speaker 4: what it cost. You were back to the Patriots and

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Speaker 4: a Q.

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Speaker 2: Case of Chiefs fatigue. And now yes you get the Patriots,

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Speaker 2: more Chiefs who easily could get blown out of this

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl. This this could be lopsided in a hurry,

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Speaker 2: There's no doubt about it. By the way, what'd you

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Speaker 2: guys think of my rant last week? How predictive and

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Speaker 2: fortuitous was it when I said I didn't enjoy the

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Speaker 2: extreme cold games and the weather games. And then what

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Speaker 2: came into play and they have C Championship, especially this

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Speaker 2: you were wrong once again.

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Speaker 4: I was right, though I called Seattle. I was just

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Speaker 4: talking about Okay, Well, I wanted to make sure you

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Speaker 4: remember that I was right and you were wrong. I

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Speaker 4: talked about this briefly on Cardinals Cover to You with

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Speaker 4: Craig this week. It's it's a boom or take, but

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Speaker 4: I'm okay with weather games this point in the playoffs.

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Speaker 4: I say that as someone who's watching for my couch

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Speaker 4: and in Arizona.

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Speaker 3: Wait a minute, how is that a boomer take? Though

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Speaker 3: Kurt Warner is almost because I say.

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Speaker 4: Because I say that as it feels more nostalgic, right,

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Speaker 4: And then you look at these teams and whenever, with

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Speaker 4: the exception of really Buffalo, whenever a team is building

661
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 4: a new stadium and has the roof. Now, part of

662
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 4: that is you want to host a super Bowl, you

663
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 4: want to host non NFL festivities. And the reason that

664
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 4: the Super Bowl is never going to happen in Kansas City,

665
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 4: the reason it's never going to happen in Buffalo is,

666
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 4: in my opinion, not because the league cares about having

667
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 4: a non weather game for the players or coaches. It's

668
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 4: because of the media, and it's because of the business side.

669
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:41,479
Speaker 4: And all the people that bring it out, and they

670
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 4: want them to be comfortable and to have a good experience,

671
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 4: to be nice and warm and cozy watching the game.

672
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 4: I don't think it was. I mean, I don't know

673
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 4: how much of advantage it was for Denver when you're

674
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 4: playing New England in that kind of weather. But I've

675
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 4: always felt like, had it been raining in Seattle, if

676
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 4: you want home field advantage, play better and earn it.

677
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 2: No I get it, and I've admitted as much. I

678
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 2: get the way the system is set up. I just

679
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 2: can't stand that championships are decided by weather. Do you think, honestly,

680
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 2: when Tony Romo sits in the second half that New

681
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 2: England has an advantage because they're wearing the white jerseys

682
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 2: and they blending with the snow. That was funny and

683
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 2: he's only half kidding. It's the biggest advantage. It's the

684
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 2: biggest example of the team wearing white having advantage since

685
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 2: the Genesis and Cattles for the Powerpole of Incompetence twenty

686
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 2: twenty four at Santa Clair when it was a buck

687
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 2: eleven and the forty nine ers had regretted going with

688
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 2: the home red and let the Cardinals wear the road white.

689
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 5: So explain to me, if you're the Broncos and you

690
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 5: know there's a chance there's going to be weather, why

691
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 5: aren't you wearing weight at home?

692
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 4: Don't we talk about adversity every other week of the year.

693
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 3: I mean, that's almost as bad as Peyton not kicking

694
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 3: the field goal.

695
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 2: Sure, and by the way, the whole you know, going

696
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 2: forward on fourth down? And I mean, speaking of Boomer,

697
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 2: do you get the sense that if you don't go

698
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 2: Ford on fourth down you're almost branded as being outdated

699
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 2: and equated as being a boomer In coaching.

700
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 5: Here's my take on that not aggressive week. Here's my

701
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 5: take on that particular decision. My take is I agree

702
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 5: with all the coaches, like people say, well the analytics

703
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 5: or that's our catch all phrase for this stuff, but

704
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 5: whatever the it says, go or not going all this stuff,

705
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 5: and I'm usually on the you should lean towards going

706
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 5: because that's usually makes more sense in terms of the

707
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 5: big picture. In that particular case, your defense was playing

708
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 5: so well, you're playing at home. If you take a

709
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 5: ten to dozing lead at home, your defense is going

710
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 5: to be that much more energized. I just think that was,

711
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 5: and if Bo Nix is the quarterback, I'm going there.

712
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 5: When Jared Stidham is the quarterback, I'm not going there.

713
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 5: And I don't understand why there was a thought of

714
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 5: doing that, because I thought you could have really taken advantage.

715
00:33:58,040 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 3: Now.

716
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 5: I also think that that game was going to be

717
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 5: a slog, whether there was weather or not, because of

718
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 5: the defenses and because of Jared Stidham. And I think

719
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 5: Drake may is a good quarterback. I do not think

720
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 5: he's next level at this point. I think you see

721
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 5: it when he plays better defenses. And to your point, Paul,

722
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:17,720
Speaker 5: I hope the Super Bowl is interesting.

723
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:19,279
Speaker 3: I'm not sure it's gonna be.

724
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. If it keeps America's attention past

725
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:25,359
Speaker 2: the halftime show, we'll see it could get lopside in

726
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 2: her who's the halftime show again? What's not good?

727
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:27,840
Speaker 4: Bunny?

728
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 2: Oh, that's right, Will Lutts When Will LUTs after the

729
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:33,359
Speaker 2: game says, yeah, my alignment was all jacked up because

730
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 2: I had no idea where I was on the field.

731
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:40,320
Speaker 2: I'm just saying I don't enjoy those circumstances deciding champions

732
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:40,880
Speaker 2: in the sport.

733
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 4: But to argue, I'm saying what if he were saying

734
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 4: that week seventeen or eighteen, which was the deciding game

735
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 4: to make the playoffs, you know what likes that's controlling

736
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 4: their future. I mean again, not to say that he

737
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 4: should be able to, you know, hit it on the

738
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 4: money every time, regardless of the weather. If well, lots

739
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,400
Speaker 4: of saying that you live in Denver, you play in Denver,

740
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 4: you know what I mean? Like, yes, that makes it

741
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 4: more difficult, and I can understand people who want the

742
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 4: ideal circumstances to play in an important game like that,

743
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:13,760
Speaker 4: but this is part of why people love football.

744
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,399
Speaker 3: Hey blame blame the Patriots for him not knowing where

745
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 3: he is, Paul, because once upon a time in the

746
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:22,880
Speaker 3: eighties that the New England brought the little snowplow out

747
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 3: declared the place for the field goal kicker and John

748
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 3: Smith had and they had to outlaw that stuff.

749
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:29,400
Speaker 2: He should have had one of those like GPS finders

750
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 2: they using golf to tell you exactly where you.

751
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,879
Speaker 5: Also get better blocking, because I'm fairly certain that kick

752
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 5: was tipped.

753
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 2: Maybe the best moment of the game, though, was Mike

754
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:40,799
Speaker 2: McDonald on the podium after the game, and there was

755
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 2: Michael Strahan, who, by the way, I thought, did a

756
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 2: phenomenal job handling all the postgame interviews live on stage

757
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:48,840
Speaker 2: and you know, both being on TV and on the

758
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,880
Speaker 2: stadium PA and coordinating everything that's a lot of chaos.

759
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 2: As someone who's done some of that, he made that

760
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 2: look really easy, and he did it with a plumb

761
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 2: and it's not that easy anyway. When he asked Mike

762
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 2: McDonald about out hey, how about the fact you overlooked

763
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,279
Speaker 2: in your own division and then you went through the

764
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 2: two teams who are considered the favorites en route to

765
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:11,399
Speaker 2: the NFC Championship and McDonald paused and said, we did

766
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 2: not care. It was delivered just the way he.

767
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 4: Said it, the way he said it was funny, it was.

768
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:21,279
Speaker 2: And even John Schneider the GM started laughing. You could

769
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 2: tell like he had sort of a different look in

770
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 2: his eye, like he's someone who is ultra locked in

771
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 2: and may not be aware of everything around him all

772
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 2: the time. You know what I mean.

773
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 5: I believe he's I not only believe he knows everything

774
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,880
Speaker 5: that's going on. I'm thinking he's somebody who thrives on

775
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 5: Now he's winning to the victor, go the spoils you're

776
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 5: allowed to talk your talk when you've done what you've done.

777
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 5: And they have proven to be the best team in

778
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:46,840
Speaker 5: the league this year, and that's why we're saying that

779
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 5: they're probably going to win the Super Bowl. I find

780
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 5: it very, very hard to believe he doesn't know what's

781
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 5: going Then again, in fact, I've never met anybody in

782
00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 5: this league who truly doesn't know, because even if the

783
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,840
Speaker 5: coach isn't paying attention, Paul, you know damn well that

784
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 5: somebody in their family has been paying attention and is

785
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:06,319
Speaker 5: letting them know, or.

786
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 2: Their media relations guys, we'll keep them up to me.

787
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:09,840
Speaker 4: And I know how you feel about Seattle Ball. But

788
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 4: I did see this tweet which it's crazy impressive that

789
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 4: John Schneider is the first general manager to take the

790
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:20,360
Speaker 4: same team to a second Super Bowl appearance with a

791
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 4: new head coach and not a single player retained from

792
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:24,360
Speaker 4: that first Super Bowl appearance.

793
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:26,360
Speaker 3: I mean, it has been a decade.

794
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,280
Speaker 2: After a decade, swamish is what I was going to say.

795
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 2: How many gms are around after.

796
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:35,240
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not gonna be honest what thought comes

797
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:38,920
Speaker 4: to mind there? But like, do they care if they win?

798
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 4: Do they care that it took a decade.

799
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:40,799
Speaker 3: No no, no, no no.

800
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 5: But I'm just I'm one of those It's like one

801
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 5: of those people saying.

802
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 3: Like, hey, it's crazy that.

803
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:51,840
Speaker 5: You know, three years into Jonathan Gannon's tenure there's only

804
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:54,360
Speaker 5: four guys left from the previous regime.

805
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, you're three years NFL.

806
00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 5: It's like dog years, it's like one years forever. They're

807
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 5: going to bring in a new coach. Now, it's going

808
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:03,320
Speaker 5: to be a little bit different because you have the

809
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 5: same GM and I'll be interesting to see how the

810
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:09,839
Speaker 5: transition goes. Like when Ken Wizenhunt came in, they kept

811
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 5: a good chunk of the roster from Dennis Screen because

812
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:14,880
Speaker 5: he had brought in a lot of really good players,

813
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 5: but there was still a lot of change, and that's

814
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 5: how it always ends up being. But I will say

815
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 5: that it is surprising. What I take from that stat

816
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 5: is that John Snyder has lasted that long.

817
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:31,399
Speaker 3: Now. They still had some good years in there. They

818
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:35,440
Speaker 3: haven't been terrible this whole time between those super Bowl appearances.

819
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 3: And also underscore is how hard it is to get

820
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:38,359
Speaker 3: to the super Bowl.

821
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 4: And you look at the last couple of years and

822
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:42,919
Speaker 4: coming to the realization that it was time to move

823
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 4: on from Pete Carroll who had been there for so long,

824
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 4: and to hire the right coach, and for McDonald to

825
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 4: make the decision to let go of some of his

826
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:53,439
Speaker 4: staff after one year as opposed to trying to ride

827
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:55,959
Speaker 4: it out and the players that they acquired and moving

828
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 4: on from Genosmith and giving Sam Darnold chance. Like, yes,

829
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:00,360
Speaker 4: it's been ten years, but when you narrow onto the

830
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 4: last three two to two to three years, it's impressive.

831
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 3: I will say this too.

832
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 5: It having two teams in the Super Bowl that did

833
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:12,240
Speaker 5: not even make the playoffs last year. This is why

834
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,799
Speaker 5: people love the NFL. This is why people talk about

835
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 5: having hope every year. And I'm not saying that automatically

836
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 5: transfers to the Cardinals necessarily. I will say this, and

837
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 5: I forget who did it, And it wasn't just a rando.

838
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:28,800
Speaker 3: It was somebody who covers this league.

839
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 5: And they had a disclaimer essentially saying, Okay, don't beat

840
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:33,879
Speaker 5: me down for this comparison.

841
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 3: But in some ways, I see the Cardinals right now

842
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:42,399
Speaker 3: a lot like the Seahawks were right before McDonald came in,

843
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 3: or McDonald or the Seahawks last year or whatever. Questions

844
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 3: a quarterback, a roster that's not terrible if you improve

845
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 3: it in the right places.

846
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 2: But an old line that needed to be rebuilt. Yep,

847
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 2: and because of the Seahawks, And that's what I didn't

848
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 2: believe coming into this year. And that's where, yeah, we

849
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 2: probably could pull some clips about from Oh yeah, and

850
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 2: a Q. Shipley is right there to remind me I

851
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:08,239
Speaker 2: was dead wrong about Seattle's offensive line coming in. I

852
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:11,359
Speaker 2: just Gray's abel, okay, nice. Didn't think he'd be as

853
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 2: capable as he is in year one, did not think

854
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 2: those two highly drafted tackles could rebound and have career

855
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 2: years essentially, And so yes, it all did come together

856
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 2: on both sides of the ball, and honestly, as good

857
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,399
Speaker 2: as Leonard Williams was two years ago in twenty four,

858
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 2: you know, Byron Murphy the second was underwhelming as a rookie,

859
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 2: and they didn't have a lot else to go along

860
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 2: up front, added DeMarcus Lawrence, they got good. I mean,

861
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 2: there was some stat where there were so many different

862
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:41,360
Speaker 2: guys with a minimum number of sacks, and McDonald is

863
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 2: a great job of just doing a lot of what

864
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:46,759
Speaker 2: the Cardinals did when they were effective on defense. The

865
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 2: last couple of years seven along the line of scrimmage,

866
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:52,239
Speaker 2: who's coming, who's dropping, and different guys being able to

867
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 2: get to the quarterback at different times in different ways.

868
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 2: And they're excellent a that. But for and I heard

869
00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 2: this national talk show, they're trying to build a case

870
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 2: that Seattle has had some sort of dynasty. Well, to

871
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:08,359
Speaker 2: Darren's point, it's been a decade. This postseason were their

872
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:11,880
Speaker 2: first home playoff games since twenty sixteen. I don't want

873
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:15,919
Speaker 2: to hear the dynasty word at all with Seattle. Yes,

874
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 2: they won one, and they should have won two. And

875
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 2: the last time they played the Patriots in the Super

876
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Speaker 2: Bowl was in the Cardinals' home stadium because I was

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Speaker 2: there in auxiliary media, which is code for three rows

878
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Speaker 2: from the rafters all the way at the very top,

879
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 2: and they should have had. And then the fact they

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00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:33,399
Speaker 2: didn't win that one basically tore the team apart from

881
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 2: the inside out because they couldn't handle the fact that

882
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 2: the ball wasn't given to Marshaun Lynch at the goal line, and.

883
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Speaker 3: They can't handle the truth exactly.

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Speaker 4: Okay, is now a good time to bring up the tweet,

885
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Speaker 4: which tweet you said he wanted to share a tweet.

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Speaker 3: ID it was the you didn't.

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Speaker 4: Specify that was the tweet.

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00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 3: That was the tweet.

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Speaker 5: Yes, that was the tweet, the one where it was

890
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Speaker 5: going through the Patriots schedule.

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Speaker 4: Oh okay, I mean good tweet. I just I didn't know.

892
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Speaker 3: I apologize.

893
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Speaker 2: Here's the thing, though, if you're talking, you're talking about

894
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:08,839
Speaker 2: changing this roster, a new head coach, new coordinators, ostensibly

895
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Speaker 2: maybe an all new coaching staff. We have no idea.

896
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 2: But to me, you have the same GM. So this

897
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 2: isn't gonna be like three years ago when Jonathan Cannon

898
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 2: came in and we started comparing the Cardinals roster overhall

899
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Speaker 2: to the Purge movies, right, I don't think me. And

900
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 2: by the way, there's the Purge Purge, Anarchy, Purge, election year,

901
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:28,279
Speaker 2: the first Purge of Forever Purge, and then there was

902
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:30,839
Speaker 2: the big Red Purge circa twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 5: I agree that it's not gonna be the same like that,

904
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:36,760
Speaker 5: but I mean there was in all those years where

905
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Speaker 5: Steve Kaim oversaw new coaches, there was pretty significant roster change.

906
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Speaker 3: On a lot of that stuff.

907
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Speaker 5: When Steve Wilkes came in, when Cliff Kingsbury came in,

908
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:49,239
Speaker 5: the question is is can you get these how many

909
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Speaker 5: guys are on the roster that you feel like the

910
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Speaker 5: coach can work with? How many specific guys don't really

911
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:57,240
Speaker 5: fit with what the coach is trying to do. Those

912
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Speaker 5: are gonna be the questions that they've got to figure out.

913
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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is the first big question for the head coach. Okay,

914
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:07,879
Speaker 2: they have a scheme that they're known for or their

915
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 2: most proficient at. Are they going to automatically install that

916
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Speaker 2: scheme and expect players to adapt and or change the

917
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 2: roster to fit accordingly to the scheme Or does that

918
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Speaker 2: coach come in and has worked in enough different places

919
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:25,840
Speaker 2: with enough different coordinators, looks at the town the Cardinals

920
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Speaker 2: have and says, you know what scheme number one Z

921
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Speaker 2: here is the best way to go?

922
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Speaker 4: Is that a call from the coach? Is that something

923
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Speaker 4: that's going on in the interview process from the general

924
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 4: manager says this is the team I have put together,

925
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:39,880
Speaker 4: this is where we have allocated our resources. Tell me

926
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Speaker 4: how you can make this work.

927
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Speaker 2: So, once again, the breaking news over the course is

928
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Speaker 2: Anthony Campanelli.

929
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Speaker 4: Yeah, during getting Cultured, he.

930
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Speaker 2: Has agreed to stay with Jacksonville. So does that mean

931
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Speaker 2: either a he was informed that he didn't make the

932
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Speaker 2: finals of the Cardinals gig or B. Maybe even the

933
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Speaker 2: Cardinals are in discussions right now with their preferred candidate.

934
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Speaker 5: I think those are questions that are right now going

935
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:09,319
Speaker 5: to be unanswered. But usually, I mean, you're to a

936
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 5: point where either either he felt like he wasn't getting

937
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 5: the kind of vibe he needed in terms of having

938
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Speaker 5: a chance at this and he was worn down. I mean,

939
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Speaker 5: there was a lot of conversation that he might get

940
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Speaker 5: a pay raise and and that kind of stuff in Jacksonville,

941
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Speaker 5: and both the Jacksonville coordinators Grant Udinsky, the offensive coordinator,

942
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 5: was also up for a couple jobs.

943
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Speaker 3: I mean, they both were in the rotation there.

944
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Speaker 5: But now they stay with Lee and Coleman and they

945
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Speaker 5: have a chance to be back in that cycle next year.

946
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Speaker 3: Now.

947
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Speaker 5: The other thing that I was talking about with our

948
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Speaker 5: good friend Robert earlier was that.

949
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Speaker 3: You never know.

950
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Speaker 5: What the cycle is going to look like in the future.

951
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 5: Like we can talk about these guys, we can talk

952
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 5: about let's say Clint Kubiak and get a job and

953
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 5: in part because he decides he wants to stay with

954
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 5: the Seahawks, great situation. You could be Ben Johnson and

955
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 5: end up in a really good situation by staying one

956
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:14,759
Speaker 5: more year. But she could be Byron Leftwitch or back

957
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 5: in the day Russ Grimm, who was no longer in

958
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:20,799
Speaker 5: the cycle. Now Russ Grimm didn't necessarily turn down any

959
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:23,319
Speaker 5: jobs and neithered to Byron left Witch. But like, you

960
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:26,840
Speaker 5: don't know how quickly your star could rise or fall,

961
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 5: and things get crazy sometimes when these owners are looking

962
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Speaker 5: for jobs. The other thing I would say too, Now,

963
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:36,399
Speaker 5: you can never say never, But if there were ten

964
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Speaker 5: openings this year, you feel like there's not going to

965
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Speaker 5: be nearly as many next year.

966
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Speaker 2: Like who saw Mike Tomlin leaving? Who saw John Harbaugh leaving? So, yeah,

967
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 2: you never know.

968
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Speaker 4: Do you believe that part of the reason Mike McCarthy

969
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 4: was hired in Pittsburgh was to get Aaron Rodgers to

970
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 4: stay from their time together in Green Bay. But here's

971
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 4: the thing, I don't think they liked each other though.

972
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, people were wondering about that at the end.

973
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 5: That had kind of frayed near the end shock as

974
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 5: we sat on the plane in Green Bay.

975
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:09,879
Speaker 2: Paul and McCarthy was really relieved of his duties before

976
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 2: we even took off, or his wheels up so and

977
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 2: taken him out. Uh, you know, he didn't look too happy.

978
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:17,719
Speaker 2: At the very end of his press conference, was Sean

979
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 2: McVeigh quote, what the hell kind of question was that

980
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:24,320
Speaker 2: when someone asked him about the future of Matthew Stafford,

981
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 2: he did not like that his MVP caliber quarterback and

982
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 2: what is his future question? What's interesting is Ian Rappaport

983
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 2: on Sunday and Game Day reported this Stafford quote was

984
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 2: indeed planning to return for the NFL next season regardless

985
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 2: of the outcome of Sunday's game. So he had reported

986
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 2: that going into the game, I.

987
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Speaker 5: I tweeted after one of his amazing throws might have

988
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 5: been one of the touchdowns. I mean, I remember sitting

989
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 5: here with the two of you, and we mustn't for

990
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 5: like five podcasts in a row.

991
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 3: Or like fuck that back.

992
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:57,800
Speaker 5: I mean, I don't even know if that guy's whatever.

993
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:03,320
Speaker 5: And he went from is his career probably is he alive?

994
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 5: To playing the whole season and being the MVP. And

995
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 5: he looked the fact that they lost those last two

996
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:14,400
Speaker 5: games the end of the regular season and then that

997
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 5: playoff game to Seattle, when quite frankly, they probably should

998
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 5: have won because Matthew Stafford was so freaking good.

999
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 2: I mean, does Stafford go into this offseason and by

1000
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Speaker 2: the way, he turns thirty eight in February. Does he

1001
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 2: go in the offseason and say, well, we were a

1002
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:30,240
Speaker 2: muff punt away from beating Seattle.

1003
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Speaker 4: I fell for that return.

1004
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Speaker 3: Here's the thing.

1005
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 5: I thought about that early in the game, and obviously

1006
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 5: the muff punt hurt them, But as the game played out,

1007
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:43,239
Speaker 5: the back to back Tariq Woolen stupid penalty and then

1008
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 5: getting burned when his head wasn't in on that play,

1009
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:49,920
Speaker 5: that to me that even that offset the muffed punt.

1010
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:53,319
Speaker 2: Here's the thing. The ramsone picks number thirteen and twenty nine,

1011
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:57,240
Speaker 2: two first round picks. Almost all the free agents return,

1012
00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 2: or well, they don't have very many free agents. They

1013
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:02,760
Speaker 2: have Cam Curl this safety, their two starting corners, Kobe

1014
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:07,839
Speaker 2: Duranticella Witherspoon, Tyler Higbee the tight end. That's really about it.

1015
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 2: I mean, they return intact. They still have a young,

1016
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:13,799
Speaker 2: talented defense, two first round picks. Garon Teed, one of

1017
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Speaker 2: those two first round picks is going to be a corner.

1018
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 4: How good is that offense gonna be if they don't

1019
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 4: have their offensive coordinator.

1020
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:21,760
Speaker 5: Ball well, and I would say that young talented defense

1021
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 5: fell off quite a bit.

1022
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Speaker 2: And I was last two months, the last two months.

1023
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Speaker 2: You're right, So can't let you guys go without the

1024
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:30,839
Speaker 2: latest mock draft. We already gave you mel Kiper one

1025
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 2: point zero, I believe. So it was the tackle from

1026
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Speaker 2: Miami Francis Maui. Noah is the guy out of out

1027
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 2: of Miami six six three fifteen. Although it was coach

1028
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 2: Mario Christobal said it was more like three p forty

1029
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:48,840
Speaker 2: and he also said he had less than twenty percent

1030
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:51,839
Speaker 2: body fat, which is one of the best body fat

1031
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:55,319
Speaker 2: percentages he's ever seen for an offensive lineman over three

1032
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 2: hundred pounds. So the dude is a certified freak. Now

1033
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 2: the latest is Daniel Jeremiah one point zero and he

1034
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 2: has a Cardinals going tackle. But Spencer Fano sixty six

1035
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 2: three oh eight out of Utah versatility to play four

1036
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 2: different spots. He quote lacks ideal proportional build, but commensates

1037
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 2: with loose hips, quick feed, and high end athleticism. He

1038
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 2: has the tools to mirror speed rushers. Sounds like he's

1039
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:23,279
Speaker 2: a little light in the pants and has prone to

1040
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 2: getting bull rushed a little bit. But his athleticism is

1041
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 2: a tackle is extremely uh, it's rated extremely high. So

1042
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 2: there you go. Tackle at number three are the first

1043
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:34,800
Speaker 2: two mock drafts of note.

1044
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Speaker 5: Doesn't surprise me at all, So I'm thinking, I'm thinking, hey,

1045
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 5: this is going to be dangerous. I'm really glad they

1046
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 5: hired Bill in the name here as head coach because

1047
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 5: now we can have this podcast live forever.

1048
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Speaker 4: Why don't you add in the draft pick and then

1049
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:53,839
Speaker 4: we can just take a couple of nuts.

1050
00:49:56,520 --> 00:50:00,479
Speaker 5: That's awesome that the Cardinals took this gar at number

1051
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Speaker 5: three overall.

1052
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Speaker 2: All right, Darren will be at the Last Shack in Tempe.

1053
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Speaker 2: You can catch them all weekend two shows Friday and Saturday.

1054
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Speaker 2: That'll do it for this edition of Cardinals Underground, brought

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