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Speaker 3: Welcome to episode five with Colby Calais and we talked

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Speaker 3: about a lot of stuff, including her new album and

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Speaker 3: it's a duets album, and she got some big time

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Speaker 3: She had bubbly Starts in my Toes, makes Me Cream

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Speaker 3: Jason Moraz that won a Grammy. They did that together

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Speaker 3: and that's lucky.

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Speaker 4: This is my best friend. Is that good or no?

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Speaker 3: I think I got it okay, And then she had

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Speaker 3: if you just realized that was a.

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Speaker 4: Really good song.

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Speaker 3: Yeah that one?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you. Colby Calay ran.

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Speaker 3: Into her just randomly in my car. I didn't hit her,

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Speaker 3: but I like sorrow took her out. I saw her

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Speaker 3: and then I was like, hey, come over, I know

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Speaker 3: you got new music. Come over to the house, and

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Speaker 3: she did, and this is that her new album. It's

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Speaker 3: with Gavin de Gral. She has some you know, festival

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Speaker 3: dates coming up and you can go Colbyclai dot com

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Speaker 3: and you can see that. But she's one of the

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Speaker 3: I think it was one of the MySpace.

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Speaker 4: Yeah music folks.

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Speaker 3: Lady A is in that category too, because they formed

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Speaker 3: on MySpace or they say they formed on my Space.

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Speaker 4: I'm not sure. You never know what story's true or not.

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Speaker 4: We formed on my space. We did. You did message

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Speaker 4: me on my that's correct. I like Colby a lot.

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Speaker 3: I also find it interesting how she kind of challenged

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Speaker 4: She wouldn't have done that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, it's pretty good Colby Calay Episode five point

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Speaker 3: forty and all that stuff would be in the notes

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Speaker 3: and her and Gavin's Christmas show.

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Speaker 4: Here she is, Colby Calay. All right, Colby Calay is here. Hi,

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Speaker 4: Colby Hi.

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Speaker 3: I was listening to your record and I'm a massive

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Speaker 3: Amousley fan. Oh my god, like massive massive and such

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Speaker 4: It was here in town, could not sing a song.

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Speaker 3: He He was getting people to sing his songs for

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Speaker 4: But it was still like, it was still like a moment.

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Speaker 1: It was okay, you guys weren't upset that he didn't

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Speaker 3: No, because I think most empathetic people would go, I've

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Speaker 4: That it wasn't a moment.

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Speaker 2: It is he's a true artist.

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Speaker 4: I'll bring that up because you guys did bubble together.

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Speaker 1: We became friends like almost a year ago, and you know,

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Speaker 1: He's such a he's he's literally the playlist that I

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Speaker 1: Yes, because I didn't want him to get like the

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Speaker 3: That's cool that he was able to go, yeah, sure,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and she was like cool, I then that's what

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Speaker 3: but that's super cool to get somebody that you love

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Speaker 1: It's so cool and yet to that point, like if

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Speaker 4: So am I saying his name wrong? I would say Amos, Lee.

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Speaker 2: It's Amos. Sorry I learned it's Amos.

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Speaker 2: How have I been signing it? Wrongs all time.

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Speaker 3: And so I'd heard a lot like just Enjoy because

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Speaker 4: And he was like I totally get it, yeah, because I.

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Speaker 4: Therefore you don't get trapped.

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Speaker 4: Yes, with your man at your you're somebody I.

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Speaker 4: I like to formally apologize. Yeah I should have said hi.

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Speaker 1: He is living in San Diego and he's doing a

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Speaker 2: On this yeah, which I that was another thing.

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Speaker 1: He recorded from San Diego and I recorded it here

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Speaker 4: My favorite song is Realize.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's my favorite song that you ever did

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Speaker 3: attachment to the original totally. So if I'm answering, honestly, yes,

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Speaker 3: because I like Mitchell a lot and I think the

446
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Speaker 3: version's cool.

447
00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:25,680
Speaker 2: Yeah.

448
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Speaker 3: But if I'm going to pick one to listen to

449
00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:30,280
Speaker 3: because I have an attachment with that time of my life,

450
00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:33,280
Speaker 3: that makes sense, still going to listen to that nostalgia?

451
00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:35,960
Speaker 4: That's yes, this associated to it. Yeah. How did the

452
00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:37,840
Speaker 4: Mitchell llab come together?

453
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Speaker 1: We had been friends just from being in town and

454
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Speaker 1: it was really funny. I was about to go on

455
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Speaker 1: stage and I get a text from Mitchell asking me

456
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Speaker 1: if I would sing on.

457
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Speaker 2: One of his songs.

458
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Speaker 1: And I was planning on texting him the next day

459
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Speaker 1: asking if he would sing on Realize. And so when

460
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Speaker 1: he said when he texted me, I was like, yes,

461
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Speaker 1: and also will you sing I Realize? And he freaked out,

462
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Speaker 1: which was so cute because he's like, I grew up

463
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Speaker 1: like in high school. Well, I was listening to that song.

464
00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:02,719
Speaker 1: I would blast it on the way to school and

465
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Speaker 1: I know every harmony to it. So he had an

466
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Speaker 1: attachment and you know, a memory with that song. So

467
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Speaker 1: and he just his voice is so great. He's such

468
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Speaker 1: a great singer. This is my favorite version because I

469
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Speaker 1: love all of the ad libs he did. And you

470
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Speaker 1: know when I listened to my original version, I sound

471
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Speaker 1: so young. That's why I wanted to redo these songs.

472
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Speaker 3: Do you get asked most of any question ever? Can

473
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Speaker 3: I predict the question you get asked the most?

474
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Speaker 2: Sure?

475
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Speaker 3: I would think the question you get asked the most

476
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Speaker 3: is did you know that we're going to leave that

477
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Speaker 3: part of Bubbly?

478
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Speaker 4: And when you say will you count me in?

479
00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:37,960
Speaker 2: That is a that's probably yeah, Like I would go.

480
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Speaker 4: Into an interview going okay, just get out of the way.

481
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's I actually wanted it taken out because I

482
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Speaker 1: was embarrassed by it, because I, although I wrote the song,

483
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Speaker 1: the way I wrote it on my guitar was different

484
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Speaker 1: than how my producer played it, and so I kept

485
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Speaker 1: coming in at the wrong time when I came in

486
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Speaker 1: form my vocal, and so I just was like, will you.

487
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Speaker 2: Count me in?

488
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Speaker 1: And he was like yeah, I was so cute, and

489
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Speaker 1: I was like, that is not cute, that's embarrassing. And

490
00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:06,280
Speaker 1: then he kept it and everyone liked it, and I

491
00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:09,080
Speaker 1: was I still wanted it taken out and I got,

492
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Speaker 1: you know, majority vote.

493
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Speaker 2: I lost.

494
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Speaker 3: So I know you and Gavin are doing the Christmas tour?

495
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Speaker 3: Are you doing all Christmas songs?

496
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Speaker 1: No, We're gonna do some of our hits for sure,

497
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Speaker 1: and then we're going to do. We're still figuring it out,

498
00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:23,399
Speaker 1: but we're Our plan is probably to just be on

499
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Speaker 1: stage together the whole time and maybe seeing harmonies on

500
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Speaker 1: each other's singles, and then do some Christmas duets together.

501
00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:33,320
Speaker 1: We're going to record a Christmas song together soon.

502
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Speaker 4: Are you on the road a lot? Now?

503
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Speaker 2: I'm not.

504
00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:38,600
Speaker 1: No, I don't. I don't enjoy touring that much. I

505
00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:43,439
Speaker 1: like to play like little little sections of shows, but no,

506
00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:44,440
Speaker 1: I should tour more.

507
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Speaker 4: What about touring do you not like?

508
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Speaker 1: I don't like being gone. I like being home. I

509
00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:52,600
Speaker 1: like being in my routine, being around like friends and family.

510
00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:53,600
Speaker 2: I think being on the.

511
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Speaker 1: Road I would I would get depressed a lot because

512
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Speaker 1: I just found it to be like, I don't know.

513
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Speaker 1: I'm also not a night person, Like I found it

514
00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:03,280
Speaker 1: so weird that I'd have to wait all day and

515
00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:06,960
Speaker 1: then play a show at night, and being on a

516
00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:09,960
Speaker 1: tour bus is hard. Packing the suitcase every day was

517
00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:12,760
Speaker 1: just tough for me. So those kinds of things, it's

518
00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:15,399
Speaker 1: I think every every artist says this. It's the travel

519
00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:17,440
Speaker 1: that you get paid for playing the show. I loved

520
00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:20,040
Speaker 1: I had that. If I would, actually, I'd love to

521
00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:22,040
Speaker 1: do a residency. I think that would be fun because

522
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Speaker 1: then you're just staying put and you still get to

523
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Speaker 1: play for fans.

524
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Speaker 4: And you still get paid. Sleeping in your bed.

525
00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:31,720
Speaker 3: Well, I did, I think eight shows here at a

526
00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:35,280
Speaker 3: theater right after COVID. I did eight stand up shows

527
00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:36,840
Speaker 3: before I was wanted to sit. I wanted tour this show,

528
00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:39,720
Speaker 3: and at eight in a row here and it was awesome.

529
00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:43,199
Speaker 3: Oh cool, because after you do your initial okay, and

530
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Speaker 3: I was doing stand ups, service out well not even

531
00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:48,399
Speaker 3: it's just also like the sound check that after the

532
00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:51,600
Speaker 3: first show you can go thirty minutes before true and

533
00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:53,600
Speaker 3: then as soon as it's over it's a home show,

534
00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:54,680
Speaker 3: so there are more people there.

535
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Speaker 4: But then you just go home and go to bed.

536
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Speaker 2: It's so nice.

537
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Speaker 4: It was the great It was the greatest.

538
00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:01,320
Speaker 3: Not to bring Rivers up again, but I was reading

539
00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:04,159
Speaker 3: an article about him because Weezer had gotten famous and

540
00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:06,679
Speaker 3: he was out like he was like, I don't like this,

541
00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:08,439
Speaker 3: I don't like touring. Yeah, and it's when he went

542
00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:11,240
Speaker 3: back to Harvard and his letter that he wrote was like, hey,

543
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Speaker 3: like I'm in a pretty famous band, but it's so lonely.

544
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

545
00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,080
Speaker 3: He was like, people see rock star and they see

546
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Speaker 3: the time that you're on the stage and the people cheering.

547
00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:21,800
Speaker 3: He's like, but it's the rito's and sandwiches and in

548
00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:23,800
Speaker 3: the back of the buses, and I just don't think

549
00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:25,000
Speaker 3: this is for me. And that's why I went back

550
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Speaker 3: to school because of how isolated.

551
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Speaker 1: Well in the backstage is really not it's not glamorous,

552
00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,360
Speaker 1: it's funky. So yeah, it's like you feel like you're

553
00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:35,280
Speaker 1: waiting around all day. Sometimes you get to see new

554
00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:38,320
Speaker 1: cities and enjoy it, so it's not all bad, but

555
00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:39,840
Speaker 1: just to do it consistently.

556
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Speaker 2: I don't know how artists tour for months at a time.

557
00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:43,640
Speaker 4: I don't know how artists tour.

558
00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:49,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, just the rock and roll style because here it's Thursday, Friday, Saturday,

559
00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:51,359
Speaker 3: sometimes just Friday Saturday and then come home.

560
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Speaker 2: I love that. Yeah, it's great thought about country touring.

561
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Speaker 4: It's great.

562
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Speaker 1: You get to have your life home with your family,

563
00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:59,720
Speaker 1: still doubtle, like, let work be a part of your week,

564
00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:03,120
Speaker 1: not just like all or nothing. That's also weird when

565
00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:05,879
Speaker 1: you just have so much time at home doing nothing.

566
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Speaker 5: Let's take a quick pause for a message from our sponsor,

567
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Speaker 5: and we're back on the Bobby Cast.

568
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Speaker 2: How often do you travel.

569
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Speaker 3: Seasonal meaning if it feels like I'm working at Christmas.

570
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Speaker 3: But if I was touring, I tore it all the

571
00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:30,560
Speaker 3: way up until I did a special when we put

572
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Speaker 3: that out, then I didn't tour Comedy Moore or if I

573
00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:35,159
Speaker 3: was doing a TV show, I would be gone. But

574
00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:39,720
Speaker 3: for the past like nine months, none, okay, And then

575
00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:42,359
Speaker 3: I started felt nice parts of it. But then I

576
00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:44,520
Speaker 3: start to feel like I don't matter anymore totally.

577
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Speaker 2: It's a weird thing.

578
00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:46,679
Speaker 4: Like it doesn't matter what I do.

579
00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:49,680
Speaker 3: I'm going to find the reason that I'm sad because

580
00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:52,480
Speaker 3: of it, for sure. I think that's just like the

581
00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:55,359
Speaker 3: you get so used to it. Yeah, and then it's like, well,

582
00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:58,000
Speaker 3: if I'm not out, I'm not game. I'm like, there's

583
00:22:58,040 --> 00:22:59,399
Speaker 3: no momentum being gained.

584
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Speaker 1: So hard about this industry is you do always feel

585
00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:04,760
Speaker 1: like you have to and you kind of do always

586
00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:07,800
Speaker 1: have to stay in it, but it can it should

587
00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 1: be for the right reasons.

588
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:09,479
Speaker 2: But we all have that.

589
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,560
Speaker 1: We all have that thought process or people forgetting about us.

590
00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:15,040
Speaker 1: And it's interesting.

591
00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:17,960
Speaker 3: I did find though, when I would go and when

592
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:19,840
Speaker 3: I was touring, because I will do the radio show

593
00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:21,880
Speaker 3: to the podcast or whatever I'm doing, but I don't

594
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:26,040
Speaker 3: connect with people directly when I'm in a room or

595
00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:27,679
Speaker 3: it's just you and I, there's no but there's our

596
00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:29,200
Speaker 3: teams here, but there's nobody else here.

597
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Speaker 2: Do you do meet and greets?

598
00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:32,440
Speaker 3: So I do it shows, and that's when I really

599
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:37,520
Speaker 3: got the best and most real feedback validation.

600
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Speaker 4: For why I do what I do. It's true, and

601
00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:41,880
Speaker 4: I think I miss that sometimes too.

602
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Speaker 1: That is something I've loved about when I have meet

603
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Speaker 1: and greets, and I usually do like a VIP meet

604
00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:50,480
Speaker 1: and greet where they come to all do three songs

605
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:53,960
Speaker 1: acoustic on stage when it's just them and and they

606
00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:55,959
Speaker 1: get to ask me questions in between the songs, and

607
00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:57,000
Speaker 1: I feel.

608
00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:58,520
Speaker 2: Like it's like I get to share.

609
00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:01,399
Speaker 1: It's like a storytelling and we get to kind of

610
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:02,840
Speaker 1: bond a little bit, and I get to know them

611
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:03,600
Speaker 1: and they get to know me.

612
00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,080
Speaker 2: And it does make it more enjoyable.

613
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:10,479
Speaker 1: Because you are just talking, speaking, singing to a crowd,

614
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:12,400
Speaker 1: and to have that feedback is important.

615
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:14,600
Speaker 3: If you could do it again, would you have gotten

616
00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 3: as famous as young?

617
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:20,040
Speaker 2: I just wasn't prepared for any of it.

618
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Speaker 1: I had never performed live, I was an introvert, I

619
00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,600
Speaker 1: had stage fright. I was not one of those artists

620
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Speaker 1: that had been doing it for years, that had been

621
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Speaker 1: that had a band that was already out on the road,

622
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,560
Speaker 1: or even like I would always think, like a lot

623
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Speaker 1: of my cousins, like they're just so outgoing and fun.

624
00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 2: I was like, why didn't I have that gene?

625
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 1: Because I doing interviews were so torturous for me, and

626
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:45,119
Speaker 1: being on live TV was so hard.

627
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:46,159
Speaker 2: Like I'm not joking, like.

628
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Speaker 1: I would cry before, Like I'd be wiping tears before

629
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,800
Speaker 1: they like I was live on camera. So for me,

630
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,280
Speaker 1: if I was just more prepared, then I could have

631
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:56,960
Speaker 1: enjoyed it more. And I feel like I would have

632
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Speaker 1: been proud of how I handle everything better.

633
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Speaker 4: Are you still a little bit that person? Though?

634
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:03,720
Speaker 2: Totally?

635
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:05,560
Speaker 1: That never goes away, But I at least have the

636
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 1: experience under my belt, and I know, like you have,

637
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:12,400
Speaker 1: there's techniques that you practice that you that you use

638
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,199
Speaker 1: to get more comfortable talking to people or going on

639
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:18,320
Speaker 1: stage or even even TV. It's not as terrifying as

640
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 1: it was, but I think it's always in me. I'm

641
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 1: not like Gavin's different. Gavin's just like, let's do it.

642
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,960
Speaker 1: He's excited to sing. He's not nervous, he's excited to

643
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:30,120
Speaker 1: talk to people, and that's something I've always wished.

644
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 2: That I had.

645
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:35,720
Speaker 3: Will you watch things back without being hypercritical of yourself? No, Yeah,

646
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:37,920
Speaker 3: I just went through this and had a mild breakdown.

647
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:40,880
Speaker 1: So my stage coach was like, you know, at one point,

648
00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:42,880
Speaker 1: she's like, we have to watch the show back every night,

649
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,399
Speaker 1: and then you get to make notes on because like,

650
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:48,280
Speaker 1: I'll do our movement and it's like so small, but

651
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:50,119
Speaker 1: I think it's like huge, and so you have to

652
00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 1: watch it back to know how to improve.

653
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:55,960
Speaker 2: But it is brutal, it can be. Yeah, so I

654
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,200
Speaker 2: don't do it, but you did it, And in that.

655
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Speaker 3: Will, Well, what happened is I went and did the

656
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 3: a bunch of these shows I did. I was a

657
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:06,440
Speaker 3: guest on a bunch of shows promoting an NFL project

658
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:06,920
Speaker 3: that I'm doing.

659
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 4: And while I was there, they.

660
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:11,919
Speaker 3: Just put out a bunch of clips because you know,

661
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,119
Speaker 3: these go up in long form, but they also clip

662
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:15,720
Speaker 3: the good stuff to get you to go check out the.

663
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Speaker 4: Long form version of it.

664
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Speaker 3: And so all these clips of me came out last

665
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Speaker 3: week and I hated every one of them and I

666
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:25,119
Speaker 3: had to stop watching them. Yeah, because I hated everything

667
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:28,919
Speaker 3: I said, and like how I said it? Yeah, and

668
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,159
Speaker 3: I was so overly critical that I'm like, why do

669
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 3: I even do this? Then I went down that path

670
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:34,879
Speaker 3: like why do I go on anybody else's shows?

671
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,000
Speaker 2: You know? It's so good about you saying that?

672
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:37,240
Speaker 4: Though?

673
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:38,199
Speaker 2: Is that I feel that.

674
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people feel that, And then

675
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:41,960
Speaker 1: you feel like you're the only one that is so

676
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:45,359
Speaker 1: critical and have like imposter syndrome or whatever it is,

677
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:48,360
Speaker 1: and no one else is thinking that of you. It's

678
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:51,200
Speaker 1: what we think of ourselves. But it Yeah, I'm like, wait,

679
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,199
Speaker 1: that's the angle that they filmed me at, Like I

680
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:54,919
Speaker 1: put all that work into it and that's how I

681
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 1: ended up looking, or that's how I responded it, Like

682
00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 1: you can forget things on the spot. So, but do

683
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 1: you always feel that way when you watch stuff or

684
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:05,639
Speaker 1: when you because I mean you do this all the time.

685
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 3: With time, it's weird because with time and if there

686
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:15,680
Speaker 3: is success in whatever that moment was, I it's palatable. Yeah,

687
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:20,160
Speaker 3: meaning I give you a really weird example because it's

688
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:21,679
Speaker 3: a bit fresh in mind. Every year around this time

689
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 3: they announced the new cast of Dancing with the Starts. Now,

690
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 3: I won that show years ago and so if I'm

691
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 3: doing anything around that time, everybody just wants to ask

692
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,480
Speaker 3: about it, and I get it. Yeah, it's a part

693
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:32,159
Speaker 3: of the it's a great part of my story. I

694
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:35,400
Speaker 3: don't talk about it that often unless it's brought up

695
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 3: or there's a reason to. And so people were asking

696
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 3: a lot about it, and I couldn't watch I couldn't

697
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:42,439
Speaker 3: watch my dances forever because I was terrible.

698
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 4: I was really bad.

699
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:46,119
Speaker 3: You were I got better, but I won because of

700
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:48,879
Speaker 3: one I got better, yes, and the fan vote, Like

701
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:52,200
Speaker 3: I dominated the fan vote, and so I won the show.

702
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 3: Couldn't watch a single thing. I can now watch it

703
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,880
Speaker 3: a little bit because.

704
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 2: Like, are you proud that you did it?

705
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 3: I'm proud that I won because I wasn't supposed to win. Okay,

706
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 3: it's even like my Like any book I've written, I

707
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,639
Speaker 3: hated them when I was done, I hated it. I

708
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 3: was embarrassed of it, couldn't read it back, didn't want

709
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:11,679
Speaker 3: to go promote it because I was humiliated by it.

710
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:14,879
Speaker 3: Once people were able to go, hey, I loved it,

711
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:16,199
Speaker 3: then I was like, maybe it's not so bad.

712
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 4: I had to be convinced it didn't suck.

713
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 2: Do you ever deal with that I do have to

714
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,640
Speaker 2: be convinced all the time. I don't like that.

715
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:26,200
Speaker 1: I wish that I could be more kind to myself

716
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,200
Speaker 1: and more confident in what I do, but I do.

717
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:31,120
Speaker 1: I feel like, in whatever it may be, I'm always

718
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 1: wanting to get someone else's like approval first, Like, are

719
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 1: you sure that that's good?

720
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 2: Because I'm our worst critics.

721
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 4: Don't you feel that's the edge? Though? That actually has

722
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 4: us make stuff like we're I make stuff.

723
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 3: I seek validation through making stuff like that for me

724
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 3: is why I think I do it. I started being

725
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 3: funny as a kid to feel love from something. Yeah,

726
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 3: so I think that's where it comes from. Why do

727
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 3: you make stuff?

728
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 1: I think it's the creative See, it's the opposite. Like

729
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 1: I actually would have preferred just to be a studio singer,

730
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 1: and I always prefer if the cameras are off, Like

731
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 1: I just don't really want that side of it, but

732
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 1: it's what came with it.

733
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 2: To me.

734
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 1: Songwriting is like therapy. It's therapeutic and it feels really

735
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 1: good to create. And I always get mad at myself

736
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 1: because I'll write a song and then I'll record it

737
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 1: and it's so much fun, and then it's like, oh,

738
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 1: now you have to.

739
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 2: Go tour it and promote it.

740
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 1: And I hated it so much, but I've learned to

741
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:29,239
Speaker 1: love it and I've changed my relationship with it, And

742
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 1: I think it just took a lot of time to

743
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 1: get to that place.

744
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 4: Do you love things you write right after you write them?

745
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 2: Usually yes?

746
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 3: Do you fall out of love with them? What's that

747
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 3: process or relationship?

748
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 2: Oh, at the beginning.

749
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 1: I think every songwriter can say this, like write when

750
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 1: you write your first song, like you are a new song.

751
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 1: You want to listen to it over and over. It's

752
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 1: so exciting that you have a new song. But as artists,

753
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 1: we also don't just like listen to our music. So

754
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 1: you listen for a week and then it just goes,

755
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 1: you know, on for everyone else to hopefully listen to.

756
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 3: Will people remind you how good a song is, like

757
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 3: your team if it's something you haven't cut, yeah, and go, hey,

758
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 3: this song is good you haven't heard and then you

759
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 3: can rehear it and kind of reexperience that again.

760
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, for sure. My manager does it all the time.

761
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 1: There's still some songs he keeps encouraging that I release

762
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 1: and I'm like, nope, like it was what I wrote

763
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 1: it about was not something that I really relate.

764
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 4: To now or oh that's a good point.

765
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, and yeah, it just feels like something I don't want.

766
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 1: I would like happily have someone else release it, but

767
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 1: not me.

768
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 4: But so the song could be really great.

769
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 2: It could be.

770
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 3: And if you don't still connect, Wow, I never thought

771
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 3: about that. You're like, you know, the song is great,

772
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 3: but I don't want to have to sing that or

773
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 3: I don't really relate to that anymore.

774
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, And sometimes that's the right decision. And sometimes, like

775
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 1: my song Brighter than the Sun, I wrote that with

776
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 1: Ryan Tetter and I loved it, but like I didn't

777
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 1: want to release it. It wasn't it didn't feel like

778
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 1: it fit me. And I got talked into releasing it,

779
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 1: and I'm so glad that I did because it's a

780
00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 1: it was a big song for me, and also I

781
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 1: love playing it live and on tour with my band,

782
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 1: And so sometimes you do need to be encouraged and

783
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 1: talked out of your own you know, head.

784
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 3: Getting tired of is not the word, but do you

785
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 3: ever are you ever exhausted of playing your hits that

786
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 3: you've played since you were a kid?

787
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 1: I at one point I think I was when I

788
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 1: you know, like when you're promoting Bubbly and you're doing

789
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 1: it five times a day and for two years straight.

790
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 1: But now I have a don't I don't feel that way.

791
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 1: I'm excited to play the songs. I have a new

792
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 1: meeting with the songs, like whatever I'm going through in life.

793
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 1: If it's a new relationship or something that a family

794
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 1: member is going through, and I sing it on stage,

795
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 1: I'm like, Oh, that's what I can relate it to now,

796
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 1: So it gives me more excitement having a fresh, a

797
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 1: new meaning to it.

798
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 3: Do you mostly write with a concept lyrics or will

799
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 3: you create a melody and then build around it?

800
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 4: Mostly?

801
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 1: Oh, mostly, I would say starts with melody where I

802
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 1: accidentally am playing guitar and melody comes out, and then

803
00:31:58,120 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 1: there's usually like a word or two that comes out

804
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 1: with the melody that you subconsciously are thinking of, and

805
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 1: then you kind of go in that direction. There's times

806
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 1: where I've had a lyric idea and then I wanted

807
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 1: to write, like I'll bring it into a session and

808
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 1: that's what we write about, and or just a concept

809
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 1: like Liz Rose, who's a huge writer, I would always

810
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 1: She's like my therapist, and I'd always bring a concept

811
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 1: into her and be like, I, this is what I'm feeling,

812
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 1: this is what I'm going through.

813
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 2: Now help me say it in a beautiful way.

814
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 6: The Bobby Cast will be right back. This is the

815
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 6: Bobby Cast.

816
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 3: How important is it defined somebody? And I know Liz

817
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 3: and she's awesome. Yeah, that you can trust with vulnerability.

818
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 3: Because songwriting is very much here are all my guts. Now,

819
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 3: let's create something that maybe's catchy.

820
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so special, And that's why I usually choose

821
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 1: to keep writing with the same people because it's uncomfortable.

822
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 1: First album I just wrote with my friend Jason Reeves,

823
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 1: so that was comfortable for me. And after that my

824
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 1: label started putting me in the room with all these

825
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 1: incredible writers and producers, but I didn't know them and

826
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 1: it was really nerve wracking for me. But eventually they

827
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 1: became my friends and I felt comfortable with them. But

828
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,959
Speaker 1: I've kind of reverted back to that where I'm not

829
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:21,959
Speaker 1: really open to writing with new people anymore.

830
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 2: I kind of want to. I mean, writing with Ryan and.

831
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 1: With Lee Brice for this was that took a lot

832
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 1: for me. I was really nervous about those sessions, but

833
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 1: they were great.

834
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 3: It's like a weird first date, except you're with somebody

835
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 3: who shares too much, but you have to be the

836
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 3: person that shares too much well, And like, what.

837
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 1: If your idea is bad or what if your melody

838
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 1: is not as good or you feel like you're not contributing.

839
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 1: That's what I hate is when I am shy and

840
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 1: I don't feel like I'm contributing as much as I

841
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 1: normally would, because you don't want to be known for

842
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 1: that as a writer, that you're not adding much to

843
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 1: a song. So then and again it's all of just

844
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 1: up in our heads.

845
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 4: How much do you write?

846
00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 2: I don't.

847
00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 1: I don't really like the songs that these three songs

848
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 1: I wrote are the only songs I wrote this year?

849
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 3: Is that hard to not write? I feel like you're

850
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 3: such a creative. Can you check out and go like,

851
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 3: I'm just not going? Is it a button you can push?

852
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 2: That's the thing. I think. It's always come in waves.

853
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,839
Speaker 1: I'll get really inspired and I'll have a lot to

854
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,319
Speaker 1: say and write about, and then it just goes away

855
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:19,840
Speaker 1: and I think I'm living life. And then in those times,

856
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my God, is it gone? Can I

857
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 1: write songs anymore? And I know it'll come back. I

858
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 1: think I just right now, I'm in a place of like,

859
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:29,959
Speaker 1: I feel like I've said all the things.

860
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 2: I don't know how else to say it. But Liz

861
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 2: is also great shell.

862
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 1: She'll be like, Sweetie, let's let's write a song. I'm like,

863
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 1: I don't really have anything to say. She's like, there's

864
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 1: always something to say, and she'll always pull something out

865
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 1: of me too.

866
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:41,759
Speaker 4: So what do you do all day?

867
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:43,240
Speaker 2: It's a great question.

868
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,880
Speaker 1: Lately, I've been back into yoga and trying to like

869
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 1: get my health in check. I think all summer I

870
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 1: was I started to feel really unhealthy, and so I'm

871
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 1: just trying to take care of myself promoting this new record.

872
00:34:57,960 --> 00:34:58,840
Speaker 4: Do you do hot yoga?

873
00:34:58,920 --> 00:34:59,760
Speaker 2: I do hot yoga.

874
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 4: I think I'm gonna go tonight.

875
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's so good.

876
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 4: It's so good.

877
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 3: I'm the weird I don't sweat that much, but I

878
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 3: sweat like crazy. It's like when the seal is broken. Yeah,

879
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 3: a water just rushes out of me. And I get

880
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 3: kind of embarrassed because I can't do all the moves,

881
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 3: like I'm not like slipping or Yeah, I'm not flexible

882
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 3: and I slip a lot, and I won't take my

883
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 3: shirt like I This is just goes back to the

884
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,879
Speaker 3: insecurity stuff. There's like dudes in there who are ripped

885
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 3: and take their shirt off.

886
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 4: I admire them.

887
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 3: They are dudes in there who aren't riped and take

888
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:28,399
Speaker 3: their shirt off, and I admire them. Yeah, and I'm

889
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 3: like somewhere in the middle, like I'm in good shape,

890
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 3: but I'm definitely not ripped, and I just I'm so embarrassed.

891
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:34,880
Speaker 3: I won't take my shirt off, even though it'd be

892
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,319
Speaker 3: so much easier on me because I'm just soaking wet

893
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:37,799
Speaker 3: in this thing.

894
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 1: But that's the whole point of the class. It's like

895
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 1: you're like, even if you can't do all the positions,

896
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:45,359
Speaker 1: and they just say do it, like you can lay

897
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:46,840
Speaker 1: on the mat half of the class if you want to.

898
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 1: I love hot yoga. It helps my mind. I think

899
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,400
Speaker 1: it's the best thing for my body. And I've been

900
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:54,279
Speaker 1: doing cryotherapy lately and in.

901
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 2: Fred's sauna.

902
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 1: And walks like going to Percy Warner and doing the

903
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 1: stairs and all that.

904
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 2: Do you do any like hikes or walks?

905
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 3: So we we have an infraret so on it that

906
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 3: we had got here, which is awesome. I'm gonna go

907
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 3: unto a rich guy mode for a second because I

908
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:12,280
Speaker 3: haven't always been rich, but now I have the weird stuff.

909
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 4: That I get to have.

910
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:13,799
Speaker 2: It's nice to have it at home.

911
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:16,439
Speaker 4: We have a red light therapy bed.

912
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:17,479
Speaker 2: Nice. That's good.

913
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:18,759
Speaker 4: It's crazy.

914
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 2: I've been doing that too. That's cool.

915
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:21,799
Speaker 3: It doesn't tan you, though you kind of wish do

916
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:22,760
Speaker 3: a tan I do anyway.

917
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 2: I've heard that it can give you some little glow.

918
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I want to put like the bunny on

919
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 3: and then get out and you take the sticker off

920
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 3: and it shows the bunny, you know.

921
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 1: I was thinking that the other day in the bed.

922
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 1: I was like, wait, why isn't this also a tanning?

923
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 3: Exactly my question? And also there's the cancer thing. That's

924
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 3: probably that's why for.

925
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 2: The benefits the opposite.

926
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:40,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure.

927
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,719
Speaker 3: So we have that and that it's been super cool.

928
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:47,360
Speaker 3: I don't walks are hard, you get bored. Yeah, my

929
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 3: wife likes to walk. Yeah, so I'll walk with her.

930
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,359
Speaker 2: Where do you guys walk because you're you know, we're

931
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 2: your neighborhood.

932
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 4: Yes, so we'll go to the park very close.

933
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, we don't have to like put a pen where

934
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:00,799
Speaker 3: we live but close. Yeah, it's very close to and

935
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:02,360
Speaker 3: so we'll do that. And sometimes she'll go do it

936
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 3: by yourself, and yeah.

937
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 4: So we'll do that.

938
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 2: I just I'm not about what's really good for you, though.

939
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:07,319
Speaker 4: I hear you.

940
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:09,839
Speaker 2: I like, I guess twenty minutes, just do twenty minute.

941
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:11,399
Speaker 3: But I feel like if I'm going to dedicate twenty

942
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 3: I might as well dedicate an hour and forty and

943
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 3: get a great And then if I'm going, well, if

944
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 3: I'm gonna walk for an hour forty, why am I

945
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 3: Why not just go as hard as I possibly can

946
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:21,359
Speaker 3: for fifty minutes and get a crazy good work at it.

947
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 2: But you can get the work out. And I think

948
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 2: just walking is also just good for you in a

949
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:25,840
Speaker 2: different way.

950
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 4: I understand that.

951
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:28,399
Speaker 3: I know and listen, and I don't do that. I'm

952
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:31,240
Speaker 3: not good at slowing down. That's why I don't sleep well. Yeah,

953
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 3: how do you sleep?

954
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 1: Sometimes good and sometimes not. And there's you know, I'll

955
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 1: try to take a gummy occasionally for that. Honestly, I

956
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 1: hate to say it, but xanax is nice sometimes. But

957
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,360
Speaker 1: both of those I don't want to get used to,

958
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 1: so I just use them for times in need. I

959
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 1: don't know, do you like?

960
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 3: Do you? I found when I took xanax to try

961
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 3: to sleep, because I've tried it all. Yeah, tried sleeping pills.

962
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 3: Those got real, real messy.

963
00:37:58,200 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I just know how you would come.

964
00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:01,319
Speaker 3: To Yeah, And I knew I was going to wake

965
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:02,840
Speaker 3: up on an airplane by naked and be one of

966
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 3: those stories that I wouldn't remember.

967
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 4: I drove off with a gas pump in my car once.

968
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:10,359
Speaker 4: Oh so okay, like I have some I.

969
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 3: Got jumped at work, I had a gun held in

970
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:14,799
Speaker 3: my head outside of an event.

971
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 4: So I had that kind of that kind of trauma.

972
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, And so I couldn't sleep. I've closed my eyes

973
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 3: and I would somebody would be attacking me.

974
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 2: Oh god.

975
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 3: And so I went through all things and like I've

976
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:26,439
Speaker 3: never had a drink of alcohol, and I stay away

977
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 3: from that because of other family trauma.

978
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 4: But when it came to not sleeping, I was sick

979
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 4: all the time. Because if you don't sleep.

980
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 1: Yes, So do you have a hard time going to

981
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,359
Speaker 1: sleep or is it staying asleep or is it both?

982
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 4: Staying asleep is the hardest thing.

983
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 3: I feel like when I slow my brain down, it

984
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 3: starts to question a lot of things and rethink a

985
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:44,959
Speaker 3: lot of things.

986
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 2: Why is it that we all do that?

987
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 1: The second we lay in bed, everyone will say this,

988
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 1: like we think of all the things in our life

989
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:53,479
Speaker 1: that we should have done, or we want to fix

990
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 1: or family.

991
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,320
Speaker 2: Stuff like alway, a lot of that stuff.

992
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 1: I'm like wishing I could change things or fix things.

993
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 1: And then it that's it makes you stressed and then

994
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 1: it makes you not sleep.

995
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:03,360
Speaker 2: It's terrible.

996
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 4: I would wake up and then I doing this. Oh

997
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 4: you ever do that?

998
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:08,840
Speaker 2: You'd physically like physack too.

999
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 4: Like I would. I would jump.

1000
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 3: So I did the sleep at me attest too, just

1001
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 3: to check. That's where they strap you up with stuff.

1002
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:16,719
Speaker 3: And it was like, yeah, you have it, but it's

1003
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 3: not the main thing. I think the main thing was

1004
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:19,280
Speaker 3: the brain.

1005
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 2: What about So did you do therapy or like neuros do?

1006
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 4: And I I had two therapists.

1007
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 2: That's good.

1008
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:26,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've done it all. Yeah, I'm pro everything.

1009
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 2: Have you done neurofeedback?

1010
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 3: Uh?

1011
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 4: Define which version?

1012
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 2: Oh?

1013
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 3: So I went to like this place called Sarah Set,

1014
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,360
Speaker 3: which they put all these things on your head. Yeah,

1015
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 3: and then you just lay there and they play these

1016
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 3: sounds in your ears.

1017
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:42,800
Speaker 4: And so I did that version for sure.

1018
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, because it works out the different parts of your

1019
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 1: brains and it kind of helps you work through traumas

1020
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:48,479
Speaker 1: or sleep.

1021
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 2: It's supposed to help with all of that.

1022
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:50,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I did.

1023
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:53,239
Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, I felt like there were certain sounds that

1024
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:54,799
Speaker 3: made me want to pee though the whole time, which

1025
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:56,319
Speaker 3: was weird. They said no one had ever said that,

1026
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 3: And I feel like with the high tones made me

1027
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 3: want to pee. So then I was because the whole time,

1028
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:01,880
Speaker 3: like is something wrong with me that makes me want

1029
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:02,799
Speaker 3: to pee when I hear a high time?

1030
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:03,400
Speaker 2: It's just me?

1031
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 4: So it's an anxiety. Yeah, it's a bubble.

1032
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:09,799
Speaker 1: I have major anxiety too. I just have social anxiety

1033
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,319
Speaker 1: at all times. It exhausts me. It's like I get

1034
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 1: it's my hermit at my house a lot because I

1035
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:17,399
Speaker 1: like to. I know, it's like a safe zone where

1036
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 1: I won't feel anxious or depleted.

1037
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 4: Why did you not say hi to me that time

1038
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:22,240
Speaker 4: on the plane?

1039
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:25,479
Speaker 1: Well, I didn't know you were there until I got

1040
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:27,360
Speaker 1: off or till I landed, and I saw the text,

1041
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 1: and then I was like, is he going to come?

1042
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 2: Stay hi? And then you didn't, And then I actually

1043
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:31,879
Speaker 2: felt weird, and I.

1044
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:35,400
Speaker 3: Was like, I'd like to apologize a second time for that.

1045
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:36,880
Speaker 2: You re brought it up.

1046
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 4: I know, I know, I just want to apologize it.

1047
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:40,239
Speaker 3: I was just wondering because I at times can be

1048
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 3: seen as if somebody just sees me somewhere. I get

1049
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 3: a lot of times, hey, you weren't very friendly, and

1050
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:48,759
Speaker 3: I'm like, well, you never said anything to me?

1051
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 2: Are you introverted?

1052
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 3: Extremely until it's time not to be? Okay, I have

1053
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:56,399
Speaker 3: two modes, extremely introverted eighty five percent of the time

1054
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 3: and then when it's showtime, like it's a switch and

1055
00:40:58,520 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 3: I amplify everything about me.

1056
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 2: Well, okay, so I'm the same.

1057
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,360
Speaker 1: I'm very shy to me to say hi to people,

1058
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 1: but I think of people have told that about me,

1059
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 1: And like when I walked in here today, You're hello.

1060
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:12,880
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, maybe he doesn't like me.

1061
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 4: I don't know, really hello, not warm and welcoming.

1062
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 2: The thing is is it's not.

1063
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 1: It's more like if we were already buds and had

1064
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 1: seen each other lately, but since we didn't, I was like,

1065
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 1: oh he oh no, Like this is it's.

1066
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:26,279
Speaker 4: So good to hear because I would never have thought that.

1067
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:28,399
Speaker 2: But that could also just be my social it's xiety.

1068
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 4: It's both. I'm sure it's both.

1069
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 2: Wow, for sure both. Well, I know you're not. I

1070
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:36,279
Speaker 2: mean you came and you said hi to me on

1071
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:38,360
Speaker 2: my walk, you know, so I know it's not that.

1072
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 2: But you know I was a little sensitive first.

1073
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 4: That's so good to know.

1074
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 3: And I mean I'm serious, Yeah, because you came in

1075
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 3: and I was like, hey, Kolby, it's like we love

1076
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 3: right down the road and I.

1077
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 4: Did stop in the car and I was like, oh,

1078
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 4: I feel like I think it.

1079
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:52,240
Speaker 2: Was like hey, Koby, that's how it felt.

1080
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, I get it. I get that. It definitely wasn't

1081
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:57,759
Speaker 4: me thinking I'm cool or being a jerk.

1082
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 2: I didn't think that. I didn't. I didn't think that

1083
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 2: at all.

1084
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 4: Dang, that's good to know.

1085
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, because I felt like I went a little

1086
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:09,240
Speaker 3: over the top if I'm being honest, because I always

1087
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 3: want to be like I want people to come and

1088
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 3: have a good time. I'm not going to try to

1089
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 3: gotcha anybody in an interview. Yeah, if we finished the interview,

1090
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:16,360
Speaker 3: you're like, I didn't like that, We'll cut it, like

1091
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:18,880
Speaker 3: I want that because if you're in a good space,

1092
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 3: then things are good.

1093
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, and so I want to create.

1094
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 1: That's crazy, but it's also how I interpret things. And

1095
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 1: also people will say, like, you look relaxed on stage.

1096
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 1: I am freaking out inside. But I think because I'm

1097
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:35,840
Speaker 1: so nervous, I like mute everything, so I worry that.

1098
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:37,800
Speaker 1: Then I maybe do that when I say hello to people,

1099
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 1: or when I say, like, did I show them enough love?

1100
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:42,360
Speaker 2: But then you know, it's all over thinking.

1101
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:43,479
Speaker 4: That is a wonderful note.

1102
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:45,319
Speaker 2: I didn't think you were cold. I thought you like

1103
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 2: were in the middle of something.

1104
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 3: No, I was doing nothing. I was sitting here in

1105
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 3: a chair, just waiting for you to get here. That's

1106
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 3: a great note. I'm so glad you said that, because

1107
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 3: what I will do is I will try to stretch

1108
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 3: myself in that capacity a bit.

1109
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, No, that's great. I like to give you a note.

1110
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:00,879
Speaker 4: Oh please, I'm just kidding. Iuv no, please give my note.

1111
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:02,879
Speaker 2: I know you're you're gonna text it to me later.

1112
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:05,319
Speaker 2: You know what. Actually I didn't want to say it

1113
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:05,840
Speaker 2: on camera.

1114
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:09,400
Speaker 3: But so if you're not going to tour and you

1115
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 3: did this record, what do you do?

1116
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:12,760
Speaker 4: Yeah? What's what's why?

1117
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:13,800
Speaker 2: Why?

1118
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,800
Speaker 3: Yeah? Why do you make the record? I I'm asking

1119
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:18,360
Speaker 3: that in a positive way, not like no.

1120
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 2: I think no, it's a really great question. I started.

1121
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:23,759
Speaker 1: I thought about making it five years ago, started it

1122
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 1: two years ago. It's been a very long process with

1123
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 1: the duets because of everyone's schedules, so it's actually been

1124
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 1: very drawn out. And I do want to I do

1125
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:33,400
Speaker 1: want to play shows. I want to tour more. I

1126
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:35,279
Speaker 1: just I want them to be the right tours. I

1127
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:36,320
Speaker 1: love co headlines.

1128
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 2: I would like to.

1129
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:42,359
Speaker 1: Open for for other artists that I admire and just

1130
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:44,240
Speaker 1: play shorter, shorter tours.

1131
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 4: How do you feel about it when tickets go on?

1132
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:48,360
Speaker 2: So, you know, it's nerve wracking.

1133
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like there's if I'm not out

1134
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 1: there as much, I'm gonna have less of an audience.

1135
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:56,879
Speaker 1: And I'm not huge on social media with my interactions,

1136
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 1: so a lot of it goes into play and so

1137
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:00,880
Speaker 1: then I just feel like it's this vicious cycle of

1138
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 1: if you're not constantly doing it, it's gonna dwindle a

1139
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:05,879
Speaker 1: little bit, and then if it dwindles, I don't want

1140
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 1: to do it as much, and then it's just, you know.

1141
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:10,919
Speaker 3: That's exactly how I feel right this second. Really, Yeah,

1142
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 3: like I haven't been on the road yeah, and because

1143
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 3: I haven't nobody cares. Because nobody cares, I don't want

1144
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 3: to do it exactly because I don't.

1145
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 4: Want to putickets up and I have to go look

1146
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 4: and see where you have to build it back up.

1147
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:22,959
Speaker 1: And I'm lazy. I'll be honest, I'm very well. Yeah,

1148
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:23,880
Speaker 1: I like my comforts.

1149
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 3: What else do you like? What yoga like? Because I

1150
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 3: feel like I don't know the person that much. We've

1151
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:28,760
Speaker 3: done a bunch of professionals staff.

1152
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:29,759
Speaker 4: What do you like? What else you like?

1153
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 1: I Lately I've been trying to be more social, like, oh,

1154
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 1: we went to bar Taco with my girlfriends last night,

1155
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 1: went to Soho the night before that with friends, and

1156
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:42,880
Speaker 1: I like to I don't know water sports.

1157
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 4: And which ones?

1158
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:44,839
Speaker 3: Uh?

1159
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 2: Well, I like I love swimming. I really love swimming.

1160
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:48,919
Speaker 1: I used to do water polo when I was in

1161
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 1: high school. I like going on lakes and boating and

1162
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 1: water skiing or jet skiing.

1163
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 2: Like stuff like that.

1164
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 4: Do you have a wayboard? I have?

1165
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:57,280
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1166
00:44:57,400 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 1: I wakeboarded last year at a friend's lake and Idaho,

1167
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 1: and I was so nervous. They're like professional athletes and

1168
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:05,839
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm not even gonna get up and

1169
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:07,799
Speaker 1: they were the best teachers, and I stood up and

1170
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 1: it was really fun.

1171
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 4: Yeah that is fun.

1172
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 2: Are you good at it?

1173
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:11,360
Speaker 4: Or yeah?

1174
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:13,359
Speaker 3: I used to live on a lake. Okay, so you're like,

1175
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 3: I'm okay. Yeah, my joints hurt now though, So wakeboarding

1176
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 3: goes a little too hard. Yeah, wake skating, wakesurfing, wakesurfing.

1177
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:22,360
Speaker 2: That's what I did, is wakesurfing.

1178
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:25,760
Speaker 3: Wakesurfing is the easiest on your body.

1179
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:28,359
Speaker 4: Wakeboarding you wipe out hurt.

1180
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 1: Wakesurfing is so funny because you feel like you're doing

1181
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 1: all this crazy stuff and you look back at the

1182
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:36,479
Speaker 1: video and it is like, so so.

1183
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 3: Not it's pretty cool that you did Lucky on your record.

1184
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 3: I was just I didn't put that together that that

1185
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:45,880
Speaker 3: was on Jason's record before and that he was hopping

1186
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 3: back on and is doing it with you.

1187
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:48,919
Speaker 4: Did you guys want a Grammy for that?

1188
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:52,279
Speaker 2: We did? That's super I accepted it solo. He wasn't there.

1189
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 2: I was so sad, but yeah, isn't that cool?

1190
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:55,520
Speaker 4: Yeah? That is cool? Where do you keep it?

1191
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 1: I have my two Grammys on either side of my

1192
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:01,880
Speaker 1: like living room shelves, and I will say it's actually

1193
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 1: very funny. My friends because you can unscrew the speaker

1194
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:09,320
Speaker 1: part of it, and my friends like to take shots

1195
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 1: out of it, which sounds very not classy, but it

1196
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 1: works and it's funny. What was the other Grammy for

1197
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:18,280
Speaker 1: with Taylor Swift for being on her album Fearless?

1198
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 4: Dang, that's cool. Yeah, did you go to both Grammys?

1199
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 2: They were the same year? Actually, yeah, so I was.

1200
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:30,839
Speaker 1: I got to present Taylor and Liz they're Grammy and

1201
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 1: Mick Fleewood presented my Grammy to me.

1202
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:37,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've interviewed Stevie want since she was excellent. She

1203
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 3: was super nice, but in the interview setting, everybody's kind

1204
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 3: of nice, true, because like, except for me, I'm cold.

1205
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:46,720
Speaker 2: It was just the hello, I'm kidding.

1206
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:50,279
Speaker 3: I'm glad you said that. I think that is so sorry. No,

1207
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 3: I'm glad you said it because I will learn from that,

1208
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:53,839
Speaker 3: and I think that's great to know because I really

1209
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 3: was treating it like, oh, here's called we she lives

1210
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:55,920
Speaker 3: down the road.

1211
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:57,279
Speaker 4: I just her I just saw a few weeks ago.

1212
00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:58,359
Speaker 4: All good, but.

1213
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 2: No, but you know, so this is actually interesting. Ryan

1214
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:03,880
Speaker 2: Hurd is the same, Like we walked into the writing.

1215
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:07,319
Speaker 1: Session, He's like, hey, and I was like, well, hi,

1216
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 1: like he obviously hates me, and he came to like

1217
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 1: we did a we sang together a couple of weeks

1218
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 1: ago at South Hall.

1219
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:14,360
Speaker 2: And it was just like, hey, what's up. Just walks in.

1220
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:16,759
Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, that's just him. But don't take it

1221
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:17,400
Speaker 2: so personal.

1222
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 3: I think it's because I think there was a comfort

1223
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 3: of I don't have to put on with you, which

1224
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 3: but but interpretations and interpretations perceptions are real.

1225
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 1: The thing is now, I feel like we're even better

1226
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:32,279
Speaker 1: friends now when you just do that down the road.

1227
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:34,279
Speaker 4: No, now, I'm going to bring my lens every time.

1228
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:35,920
Speaker 2: Okay, well that'll be all like that.

1229
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:36,720
Speaker 4: Kobe.

1230
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 3: Really good to see you, Bobby, Thank you. Yeah, this

1231
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 3: has been super funny. Congrats on the new record. It's

1232
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 3: great again. I went to it first. I think the

1233
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 3: Ryan song was the first song you put out too.

1234
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 4: Is that accurate?

1235
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:48,359
Speaker 2: No, it was the third song.

1236
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:49,879
Speaker 3: The first first one I saw was you and Ryan

1237
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:52,879
Speaker 3: though that one I went to. That's the first one

1238
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 3: that came. They came over to me, and that's what

1239
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 3: I went What was the first one?

1240
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:59,320
Speaker 1: Then if you love Me let Me Go with Russell Dickerson,

1241
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 1: and then Real Lies with Mitchell.

1242
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, who cares about them? But Ryan, No, I'm kidding.

1243
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 3: I actually you supported.

1244
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:08,920
Speaker 2: It, so, you know, thank you for for you know,

1245
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 2: having me on.

1246
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:12,720
Speaker 1: And I was always I was really stoked when you

1247
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 1: stopped me in the car and you were like telling

1248
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 1: me about how you like the song so and.

1249
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 3: I said, the first song you put out with Ryan,

1250
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:22,400
Speaker 3: I love it and she was like, yeah, that's idiots,

1251
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:24,760
Speaker 3: not the first one. Great to see you you guys.

1252
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 3: Go go out to the Christmas tour. Have you have

1253
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 3: you guys put on tickets out with that yet? Tickets

1254
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 3: on sale?

1255
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:29,759
Speaker 2: They're on sale.

1256
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:32,399
Speaker 4: I should I should know that. How did they how

1257
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 4: do they get them?

1258
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 1: You can go to my website Colby Kelly dot com,

1259
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 1: Gavin's website.

1260
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:38,440
Speaker 4: It's up here. I know. I just want to see

1261
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 4: if you're yeah, I know my name? Yeah? Does everybody

1262
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 4: misspell your name? Yeah?

1263
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 1: For still yeah, I misspell it. They mispronounce it.

1264
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 3: It's really funny, is that if you're like in an

1265
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 3: airport or something, if people don't know you from your music,

1266
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 3: we will they yell Colby.

1267
00:48:54,800 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 1: Cal eate KLi at Kylott, I get Kelly Kelly sometimes

1268
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 1: or Colby Kelly Kobe.

1269
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:05,840
Speaker 2: I don't know. It's very funny, Kelly.

1270
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:06,880
Speaker 4: They call you Colby kel.

1271
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 2: I think they get it.

1272
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:10,279
Speaker 1: I think when they're nervous and they're like, it's I

1273
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 1: think that's what comes out when they say it.

1274
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:14,880
Speaker 2: I think they do know my name if they weren't.

1275
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 2: How do you feel about festivals.

1276
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 4: Built in built an audience?

1277
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 1: So lately I've actually liked them because I've played a

1278
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:25,440
Speaker 1: couple lately and I was like, oh God, are they

1279
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:28,360
Speaker 1: even going to know my music? And dudes like, because

1280
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 1: guys don't come to my shows. It's like usually females

1281
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 1: and they've dragged their boyfriends.

1282
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:33,880
Speaker 2: But dudes knew.

1283
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 1: Like most of my songs and it was really fun

1284
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 1: to know that, you know, they actually know them, and

1285
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:40,840
Speaker 1: you gain a new fan base as well. It's just

1286
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 1: hard festivals because as a as a singer, you're just

1287
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 1: like rushed in and out and it's usually not the

1288
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:48,360
Speaker 1: best audio.

1289
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 2: But otherwise they're fun.

1290
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 3: Like either a casino, good money, terrible, usually terrible everything

1291
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:57,880
Speaker 3: yeah except for the money, and half people don't even

1292
00:49:57,880 --> 00:49:59,840
Speaker 3: want to be there. They just got free tickets to something.

1293
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, or they have like their monthly tickets so they yeah,

1294
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:04,279
Speaker 1: they don't show up or.

1295
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:05,879
Speaker 3: The other note before we go. When I was looking

1296
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 3: at your Christmas toy, it was all West.

1297
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 1: I know, we've got complaints about that. Gavin has booked

1298
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:13,440
Speaker 1: now some East Coast shows. I have not yet, but

1299
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:14,480
Speaker 1: it is all West Coast.

1300
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 4: So maybe how we're supposed to go fly, I want

1301
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 4: to stay home.

1302
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 1: We're going to try to do a show here for

1303
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 1: like all the artists. I'm going to try to get

1304
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 1: all that together for a show.

1305
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:29,160
Speaker 4: With the artists. They did it, all the songs.

1306
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:29,920
Speaker 2: I'm hoping it's not.

1307
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 1: It's not confirmed at all yet, but that's what my

1308
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:32,719
Speaker 1: goal is.

1309
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:33,879
Speaker 4: Like that's like Colby Stock.

1310
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 1: It's like it would be really hard to get everyone's

1311
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:37,160
Speaker 1: schedules aligned.

1312
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:38,479
Speaker 2: That's my goal, all.

1313
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:40,800
Speaker 3: Right, Kolby, really great to see you. We put all

1314
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 3: in the notes how to get tickets to the shows.

1315
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 3: Check out the new record and there she is. Colby Cala,

1316
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 3: Thanks Coby, Thanks

1317
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:50,880
Speaker 5: Bobby, thanks for listening to a Bobby Cast production