WEBVTT - Accountability Demanded: Honoring the Lives ICE Took

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<v Speaker 1>Hey everyone, Welcome to BLEEP. Thanks for joining us this week.

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<v Speaker 1>Today's episode is going to be dedicated to the victims

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<v Speaker 1>of ICE. And when I say victims, I'm not referring

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<v Speaker 1>to the thousands of children that have been detained in

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<v Speaker 1>deplorable conditions in places like Dilly Detention Center. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>referring to the over fifty people who have died in

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<v Speaker 1>ICE custody. I'm referring to the people who have actually

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<v Speaker 1>been killed, targeted, executed, innocent people who have lost their

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<v Speaker 1>lives in interactions with ICE. Since Secretary Mark Wayne Mullen

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<v Speaker 1>remember him, He's the guy who replaced Christinome. Since he

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<v Speaker 1>took over Homeland Security, there's been the illusion that things

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<v Speaker 1>have been under control, They've been out of the headlines,

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<v Speaker 1>things have gotten quieter, But that is far from the truth.

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<v Speaker 1>The numbers of detentions have not decreased, If anything, they

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<v Speaker 1>have increased. And just in the last weeks alone, we

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<v Speaker 1>saw ICE target and kill two innocent people within eight

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<v Speaker 1>days of each other. They killed two innocent men. So

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<v Speaker 1>let's talk about some of these names and people put

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<v Speaker 1>stories and faces to the statistics. On July seventh, Lorenzo

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<v Speaker 1>Salgado Arajo, a fifty two year old Mexican national who'd

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<v Speaker 1>been living in Houston for thirty five years. He was

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<v Speaker 1>shot down by ICE officers who were driving in unmarked

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<v Speaker 1>SUVs at a traffic stop. They were looking for someone else,

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<v Speaker 1>so they had the wrong person, but they pulled his

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<v Speaker 1>car over. Ice officers claim he tried to ram his

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<v Speaker 1>car at them, but witnesses say this is a lie,

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<v Speaker 1>and there is video from the street that proves this

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<v Speaker 1>is a lie. There was nobody camp just IS's words

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<v Speaker 1>against three witnesses who were in the car with him.

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<v Speaker 1>And let us remember Ice has lied before, Ice has

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<v Speaker 1>killed before, and ICE has lied about it before. Lorenzo

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<v Speaker 1>Algado Araljo he was a father, a husband. He was

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<v Speaker 1>a construction business owner and had been applying for authorization

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<v Speaker 1>to live in the United States legally. His family said

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<v Speaker 1>he liked nothing better than to sit on his porch

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<v Speaker 1>after work, petting his dog and listening to music. He

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<v Speaker 1>was a very hard worker. He sent all three of

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<v Speaker 1>his US citizen born children to college. One is a teacher,

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<v Speaker 1>another one of his sons is an engineer, and the

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<v Speaker 1>third son is studying engineering in college. Now those three

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<v Speaker 1>sons are fatherless. Then there was a different case, yet

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<v Speaker 1>another case. This one was Juan Sewatian Durang Guerrero. And

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<v Speaker 1>let me tell you, Juan Sewatian, that's the name of

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<v Speaker 1>a famous singer, famous Latin singer. And when I heard

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<v Speaker 1>his name and I read and heard about this case,

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<v Speaker 1>it occurred to me that his mom must have named

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<v Speaker 1>him for Juan Sewatian, this singer. This also happened last week.

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<v Speaker 1>ICE fatally shot him. He was twenty six years old.

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<v Speaker 1>He was from Colombia. They killed him in Biddeford, Maine.

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<v Speaker 1>He was an authorized worker in the US. He had

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<v Speaker 1>a legal work permit to work in the United States

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<v Speaker 1>and a valid Social Security number. That means that he

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<v Speaker 1>was not here illegally. You don't have a valid work

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<v Speaker 1>permit if you are in this country illegally, So he

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<v Speaker 1>has got to have had some legal status temporary or

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<v Speaker 1>not that allowed him to have that legal permit. And

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<v Speaker 1>like Salgado Araujo, Juan se Vatian Guerrero was driving his

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<v Speaker 1>car when ICE agents were in the area with an

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<v Speaker 1>arrest warrant for someone else. Yes, another case of mistaken identity,

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<v Speaker 1>another case where they chased and targeted the wrong person.

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<v Speaker 1>Video shows that ICE agents rammed him with their vehicle,

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<v Speaker 1>then approached him on foot with their guns already drawn.

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<v Speaker 1>Ice Ice claims they fired because Guerretro's car tried to flee,

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<v Speaker 1>but video shows the car had already slowed down, and

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<v Speaker 1>eye witness said that his last words that he clearly

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<v Speaker 1>heard him say, I tried to stop. Guerretro was originally

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<v Speaker 1>from Columbia. He worked multiple jobs as a food delivery driver,

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<v Speaker 1>he was a cleaner, and he had been living in

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<v Speaker 1>Biteford for a few years. He was also the father

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<v Speaker 1>of a three year old daughter with his partner. The

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<v Speaker 1>three year old she was in the backseat of the

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<v Speaker 1>car when he was shot four times in the face.

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<v Speaker 1>She saw her father pulled from the car, his limp,

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<v Speaker 1>bloodied body. I don't know if he was dead yet

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<v Speaker 1>or if he was dying, but they hand cuffed his

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<v Speaker 1>limp body. The little three year old. She was wearing

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<v Speaker 1>her bluey pajamas and a pink backpack at the time.

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<v Speaker 1>These events happened eight days apart. You would think that

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<v Speaker 1>after the first killing, the first execution of Lorenzo Salgado Arajo,

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<v Speaker 1>and the attention the media, attention the protests that resulted

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<v Speaker 1>from that. You would have thought that ICE would have

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<v Speaker 1>been more deliberate, more careful about it happening again, But

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<v Speaker 1>they weren't. It happened again. To Juan Sebatiang gro Why

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<v Speaker 1>because there's no accountability, there's no thorough investigations, there is impunity.

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<v Speaker 1>Our own government is killing human beings, including US citizens,

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<v Speaker 1>in the streets of America with absolute impunity. So after

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<v Speaker 1>this happened, there was a short pause of traffic stops

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<v Speaker 1>by ICE nationwide. That's what Borders saw. Tom Homan announced.

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<v Speaker 1>And when I say short pause, I mean short because

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't. A day later that Trump contradicted the policy

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<v Speaker 1>and said ICE should resume traffic stops because they were

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<v Speaker 1>essential for cracking down on illegal aliens. And Tom Holman

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<v Speaker 1>and ICE they also promised to expand body cameras. Remember

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<v Speaker 1>we've heard this promise before. They promised this after the

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<v Speaker 1>Minneapolis shootings in January, and it was never fully delivered. Homan,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, discussing human being that he is, his response

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<v Speaker 1>was to blame Democrats for the delay in body camps.

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<v Speaker 1>He said that shutdown of the Department of Homeland Security

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<v Speaker 1>was responsible for the delay of ICE agents having body

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<v Speaker 1>camps in neither of the two cases that I just

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<v Speaker 1>talked about where ICE agents were wearing body camps. They

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<v Speaker 1>also promised a so called investigation into both shootings and

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<v Speaker 1>officers getting placed in administrative leave. This is a standard process. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 1>states and field officers are conducting their own investigations, and

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<v Speaker 1>Harris County's DA in Texas and Houston, which has issued

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<v Speaker 1>nearly twenty subpoenas for evidence, say federal offices are not

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<v Speaker 1>cooperating with their investigation. And let me tell you what

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<v Speaker 1>we haven't gotten. We haven't gotten video evidence from DHS.

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<v Speaker 1>No agents have been named who were involved. And meanwhile

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<v Speaker 1>DHS continues to defend the ab agency, telling CNN ICE

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<v Speaker 1>agents are trained to use the minimum necessary force to

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<v Speaker 1>resolve dangerous situations to prioritize the safety of the public

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<v Speaker 1>and our officers. So you think it is prioritizing the

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<v Speaker 1>safety of the public when you are shooting a driver

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<v Speaker 1>mid drive with a child in the back seat. Come on,

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<v Speaker 1>the hypocrisy of these people that they're able to say

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<v Speaker 1>that with a straight face, It's just it just blows

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<v Speaker 1>my mind. And let me just say this, if these

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<v Speaker 1>were the only two people that ICE had killed, it

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<v Speaker 1>would be shameful enough. But they are not the only

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<v Speaker 1>two people that have been executed by ICE. Ice has

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<v Speaker 1>shot at least five or six other people. I want

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<v Speaker 1>us to remember their names. I want us to remember

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<v Speaker 1>their stories. I want us to take them with us

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<v Speaker 1>to the voting booth and November. So let's talk about them.

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<v Speaker 1>Silverio Jea Gonzalez a thirty eight year old Mexican immigrant

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<v Speaker 1>from Michuacan. He lived in Chicago for twenty years. His

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<v Speaker 1>girlfriend described him as warm and present at home. She

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<v Speaker 1>said he'd wake her up sweetly in the mornings, helped

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<v Speaker 1>get the children fed and dressed, and let her rest

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<v Speaker 1>whenever she had a migraine. On September twelfth, twenty twenty five,

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<v Speaker 1>ICE agents attempted a vehicle stop to arrest him after

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<v Speaker 1>he just dropped off one of his children at school.

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<v Speaker 1>He was shot at close range. Ruben Rey Martinez he

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<v Speaker 1>was just twenty three years old and he was a

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<v Speaker 1>US citizen from San Antonio, Texas. He was planning to

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<v Speaker 1>enrolled in trade school to become a mechanic and move

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<v Speaker 1>into his own apartment. His mom, Rachel Reyes, described him

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<v Speaker 1>as shy, laid back, humble, kind and adventurous. On March fifteenth,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty five, he was pulled over by Homeland Security

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<v Speaker 1>investigations while he was driving by a crash scene on

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<v Speaker 1>South Padro Island, Texas. He was shot and killed. And then,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, there's Renee Good, a thirty seven year old

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<v Speaker 1>mother of three who loved to sing and was kind

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<v Speaker 1>to everyone. She had just dropped off her six year

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<v Speaker 1>old son at school. Her car was parked sideways in

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<v Speaker 1>a residential street in Minneapolis. She motioned unmarked ICE vehicles

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<v Speaker 1>to pass. She was part of the community's Whistle network,

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<v Speaker 1>a response to that week's ice surge in the city.

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<v Speaker 1>An ICE agent approached her on foot circled her SUV

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<v Speaker 1>while another ICE agent ordered her to get out of

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<v Speaker 1>the car. Agents shot her three times, and she died

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<v Speaker 1>from gunshots to the chest. Ice lied that she was

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<v Speaker 1>charging her car at them, which video footage proved was

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<v Speaker 1>utterly false. She was a US citizen. And then there

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<v Speaker 1>was Alex Pretti, thirty seven years old, an ICU nurse

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<v Speaker 1>at the Minneapolis VA Hospital who had been participating in

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<v Speaker 1>protests against the earlier killing of Renee Good. His family

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<v Speaker 1>said he loved the outdoors, and his neighbors and colleagues

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<v Speaker 1>described him as calm and competent and a good person.

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<v Speaker 1>Border Patrol was in the neighborhood conducting an operation targeting

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<v Speaker 1>a different individual, Josel Wuerta Chuma, when Pretti and a

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<v Speaker 1>group of activists arrived at the scene to protect him.

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<v Speaker 1>Pretti was recording the agents on his phone when officers

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<v Speaker 1>pepper sprayed him, tackled him, and shot him. DHS said

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<v Speaker 1>he approached with his gun. This was a lie. Videos

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<v Speaker 1>showed he never showed his gun. Again, I slide and again.

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<v Speaker 1>Alex Pretty was a US citizen. Then there was Keith

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<v Speaker 1>Porter Junior, a forty three year old father of two

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<v Speaker 1>from Northridge in Los Angeles. His mom described him as

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<v Speaker 1>a caring and hardworking person with the biggest heart. Shortly

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<v Speaker 1>after ten thirty pm on New Year's Eve, December thirty first,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty five, he was firing celebratory gunshots into the air,

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<v Speaker 1>something that's our common New Year's tradition, and that's when

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<v Speaker 1>an off duty Ice agent who lived in the same

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<v Speaker 1>complex heard the gunfire. Instead of staying inside and calling police,

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<v Speaker 1>the Ice agent grabbed his Ice issued firearm and shot

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<v Speaker 1>and killed Porter. And then he lied about it. And

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<v Speaker 1>there was Marie Mar Martinez, Marie Mar. Thankfully she made

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<v Speaker 1>it out alive, but barely, and no thanks. Twice. On

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<v Speaker 1>October fourth, twenty twenty five, the thirty year old US

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<v Speaker 1>citizen and Montessori's School teaching assistant with no criminal record,

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<v Speaker 1>was driving in her Brighton Park neighborhood in Chicago when

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<v Speaker 1>she saw Border Patrol agents patrolling the area. They were

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<v Speaker 1>calling it Operation Midway Bliss. She followed them in her car,

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<v Speaker 1>honking her horn shouting la Megra, La migra to alert

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<v Speaker 1>her neighbors that immigration agents were present. An ICE agent

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<v Speaker 1>then got out of their car and shot her five times.

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<v Speaker 1>She managed to drive to a nearby auto repair shop

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<v Speaker 1>for help before being taken to the hospital and treated

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<v Speaker 1>and then arrested. DHS says her car tried to ram them,

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<v Speaker 1>but body camera footage shows differently it was DHS's car

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<v Speaker 1>driving towards her lies. Again. Martinez is still alive, but

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<v Speaker 1>suffered severe trauma and injuries. And again, just like Keith Porter,

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<v Speaker 1>she too was a US citizen. These are people who mattered.

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<v Speaker 1>They were parents, they were loved ones, They were partners,

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<v Speaker 1>they were teachers, they were nurses, they were hard workers,

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<v Speaker 1>they were colleagues, they were people trying to live the

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<v Speaker 1>American dream. We need to honor them and remember and

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<v Speaker 1>never forget the cruelty that they suffered at the hands

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<v Speaker 1>of our own government. And again, I hope you take

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<v Speaker 1>this knowledge. I hope you look these people up, and

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<v Speaker 1>I hope that when the elections come in November, we

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<v Speaker 1>all show up and we vote for accountability, We vote

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<v Speaker 1>for investigations, We vote to honor the memory of the

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<v Speaker 1>people who died unjustly at the hands of ICE agents

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<v Speaker 1>and the US government, and we vote to vote out

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<v Speaker 1>the people who have looked the other way in Congress

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<v Speaker 1>and in the Senate as these things happen in the

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<v Speaker 1>streets of America. I have to be honest with you,

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<v Speaker 1>this has been a very tough week for me. These

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<v Speaker 1>two deaths that happen within eight days of each other,

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<v Speaker 1>have left me devastated, sad. I have this feeling in

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<v Speaker 1>my chest, this dread, this fear at seeing brown people,

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<v Speaker 1>at seeing immigrants, at seeing people who look like me

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<v Speaker 1>and sound like me hunted down. And again I can't

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<v Speaker 1>get over the fact that these folks aren't being killed

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<v Speaker 1>by criminals, They're being killed by our own government, and

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<v Speaker 1>they're doing so with impunity. What is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>the accountability? When is there going to be justice? This

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<v Speaker 1>has been very very hard to watch, to talk about,

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<v Speaker 1>to accept, and to realize can happen in the United

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<v Speaker 1>States of America. But at the same time, I try

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<v Speaker 1>to find bad and I tried to read things and

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<v Speaker 1>enjoy things, find things that brought me happiness. And one

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<v Speaker 1>of the things that brought me happiness this week was

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<v Speaker 1>Ejen Carroll. If you remember, Egen Carroll was the writer

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<v Speaker 1>who was who claimed Trump had raped her in a

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<v Speaker 1>Burgdoff Goodman dressing room in the mid nineteen nineties and

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<v Speaker 1>back in twenty twenty three, she sued Trump for sexual

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<v Speaker 1>abuse and for defamation twice when he publicly called her

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<v Speaker 1>a liar numerous times. A jury concluded that Trump was

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<v Speaker 1>civilly liable, and a judge ordered Trump to pay her

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<v Speaker 1>five million dollars in damages. He fought it. He fought

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<v Speaker 1>it time and again, took it all the way up

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<v Speaker 1>to the Supreme Court. But you know what, last week

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<v Speaker 1>he had to pay her. She finally got her five

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<v Speaker 1>point six two five million dollar payment, which includes three

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<v Speaker 1>years of interest. Another thing that brought me joy was

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<v Speaker 1>the Spain and Argentina game they faced each other in

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<v Speaker 1>the World Cup finals. It was two Spanish speaking countries.

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<v Speaker 1>And listen, you know, I'm a newfound fan of the

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<v Speaker 1>World Cup and of soccer. And part of what I

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<v Speaker 1>love about this event that happens every four years and

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<v Speaker 1>about this sport is just how much you realize the

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<v Speaker 1>role of immigrants matter when it comes to sports, and

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<v Speaker 1>how you see people who complain about immigration at the

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<v Speaker 1>same time that they are cheering on and rooting on

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<v Speaker 1>the immigrants who are playing in these teams. Let me

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<v Speaker 1>tell you something. If it wasn't for immigrants, go look,

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<v Speaker 1>go take a look at the membership of these teams.

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<v Speaker 1>If it wasn't for immigrants, I think these folks would

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<v Speaker 1>have been celebrating the World Cup of shuffle Board. Nearly

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<v Speaker 1>a quarter of all the almost thirteen hundred players were

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<v Speaker 1>representing a country other than the one they were born in,

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<v Speaker 1>and that includes the US where the star the star

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<v Speaker 1>striker Baalagan. He became the team's top scorer during the tournament.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the guy who got the red card that

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<v Speaker 1>then Trump called the head of FIFA about and had

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<v Speaker 1>the red card violation overturn. Well, he qualified to play

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<v Speaker 1>for the United States only because he was granted automatic

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<v Speaker 1>citizenship under the fourteenth Amendment, so birthright citizenship after his

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<v Speaker 1>Nigerian parents gave birth to him in Brooklyn. So this

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<v Speaker 1>is the same amendment, the same birthright citizenship that Donald

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<v Speaker 1>Trump wants to get rid of. But here he was

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<v Speaker 1>asking for this US player to be put back into

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<v Speaker 1>the team, into the game because he's the best player.

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<v Speaker 1>So I guess he didn't care much about birthright citizenship.

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<v Speaker 1>Then France is reckoning with its own anti immigration rhetoric.

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<v Speaker 1>It had sixteen members that were born abroad or have

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<v Speaker 1>parents who have migrated to France. It was the same

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<v Speaker 1>for Belgium, it was the same for Switzerland. Anytime you

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<v Speaker 1>were looking at a World Cup game, you couldn't help

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<v Speaker 1>but notice the role of immigrants. There were great other

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<v Speaker 1>immigrants stories as well. Alfonso Davis from Canada. He was

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<v Speaker 1>born in two thousand in a refugee camp in Ghana

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<v Speaker 1>after his parents fled Liberia's civil war. There was Nestori Irakunda.

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<v Speaker 1>He's from Australia. He was born in a refugee camp

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<v Speaker 1>in Tanzania after his parents fled Burundi's civil war. He

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<v Speaker 1>became the youngest player to score for Australia at the

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<v Speaker 1>World Cup this tournament. There was our My Bill, also

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<v Speaker 1>from Australia. He too was born in a refugee camp

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<v Speaker 1>in Kenya after his parents from South Sudan fled the

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<v Speaker 1>civil war. There there was Eduardo Gamaviinga. He was from France.

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<v Speaker 1>He plays for Real Madrid, but he was playing for

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<v Speaker 1>France in the World Cup. He also was born in

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<v Speaker 1>a refugee camp in Angola after his family fled the

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<v Speaker 1>war in the Democratic Republic of Congo. I was born

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<v Speaker 1>in a refugee camp in Angola after my family fled war,

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<v Speaker 1>he said. And I am grateful to play and proud

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<v Speaker 1>to do so as a former refugee. Just wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>highlight some of these stories because I find it the

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<v Speaker 1>height of irony that so many people who are against

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<v Speaker 1>immigrants seem to be all four immigrants when they are

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<v Speaker 1>representing their country in the World Cup and scoring goals.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it for Bleep this week. As always, I want

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