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Speaker 2: All right, let's get into the news. That's all kinds

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Speaker 2: of stuff happening. Almost eight hundred people came forward with

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Speaker 2: child sexual misconduct allegations against the Boy Scouts of America.

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Speaker 2: Good god, mm hmmm uh, that's a lot.

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Speaker 3: That's like Catholic church numbers.

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Speaker 1: Those are just nothing funny. Just the ones that came out.

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Speaker 1: Imagine the people that I did ain't gonna they would

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Speaker 2: I'm not shocked because I don't know something about the

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Speaker 2: Like what kind of people want to hang around kids?

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Like that's a little too eager.

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Speaker 2: I think all Scouts leaders should be people that don't

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Speaker 3: Be like, yeah, I actually had plans this weekend. I

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Speaker 1: But now I got to be out here teaching your

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like you can come, you can come watch the kids. Okay,

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Speaker 2: that shit, you going on campus trip. But the dude

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Speaker 2: that like couldn't wait to throw on that like handkerchief

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Speaker 3: You can't watch the kids. Your ass got chilled.

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Speaker 2: You're a little too happy. I don't trust nobody like

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Speaker 2: being around kids. Trust people that's like fucking exasperated and

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Speaker 2: tired of kids. The only people you can trust. All

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Speaker 2: good teachers are as good as a teacher as they are.

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Speaker 3: They start talking about no kids, they like, these motherfuckers

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Speaker 2: So yeah, Monday lawsuit was filed against the organization after

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Speaker 2: eight hundred former Scouts came forward in recent months, accused

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Speaker 2: many these people boy scouts. It has traditionally been for

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Speaker 2: drop in the bucket compared to what really happened, of.

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Speaker 1: Course, of course, and it's also for me, you know

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Speaker 1: when you look at it, I guarantee you once everything

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So it's interesting that, you know, because yeah, this

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Speaker 2: effort to silence and suppress a Yeah. The legal action

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Speaker 3: Before sexual abuse him.

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Speaker 2: At a news conference on Tuesday morning, the lawyers are

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Speaker 2: now it's nearly eight hundred other clients said they were abused,

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Speaker 2: and noted that more than three hundred and fifty abuses

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Speaker 2: would mean the organization did not properly vett as volunteers,

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Speaker 3: Of course, yep.

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Speaker 1: Because if they was public with that, people would not

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Speaker 1: sign their kids up for that, because that's the thing.

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Speaker 1: I pay to be a part of this, and that's like,

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Speaker 1: it's not like it's fucking free. I pay a fee

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it reminds me of a college campus

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Speaker 2: sexual assaul statistics, by which I mean when we talk

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Speaker 2: about college campus sexual assault, A lot of colleges don't

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Speaker 2: end up with some really weird figures that don't make sense,

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Speaker 2: like we have thousands of thousands of students that go here,

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Speaker 2: no one gets sexual assaulted, like very very rare, like

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Speaker 2: unless someone like hop top the bushes, there is no

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Speaker 2: sex on our campus because they think this is us

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Speaker 2: If you look at that applying here and you look

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Speaker 2: virtually no sexual assault at this university. Wow, it must

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Speaker 2: be safe for our daughter to come. But and that's

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Speaker 2: how people's minds work, right, Oh, there was zero rape reported.

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Speaker 2: That's not how that actual number actually tells you something different,

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Speaker 2: they're not prosecuting all the sexual assaults on campus, because

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Speaker 2: that's the only way that number would be So fucking

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Speaker 2: infinitesimal when we know some like what forty percent, some

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Speaker 2: astronomical number. Women are like, we get sexual assaulted when

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Speaker 2: we go to college except Tulane University.

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Speaker 3: It never has happened, you know.

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Speaker 2: And that's the backwards thinking of well, if it's not reported,

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Speaker 2: then it didn't happen. And therefore, when you throw these

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Speaker 2: No safe places are the places where they go. Things

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Speaker 2: happen here, and we handle them. Here are the numbers correct?

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Speaker 1: And when I mean underreported, it's like the number might

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you didn't let me finish my sentence. That's

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Speaker 2: what I was trying to say, is not I was.

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Speaker 2: I was saying that they're not reporting all of them.

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Speaker 2: That's so underreported is included.

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Speaker 1: It's like they do uh one, skip them three, two,

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Speaker 3: Right? And which is which is? You know, really fucked up?

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Speaker 1: You know?

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Speaker 3: And I wonder how much of that is this?

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Speaker 2: Because eight hundred people are suing, that can't be all

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Speaker 2: the people that happen to m And then the fact

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Speaker 2: have a reputation. We already have fears, am like, what

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Speaker 2: are these men gonna do to these.

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Speaker 3: Boys out in the woods alone.

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Speaker 2: We already have that shit, so we just won't report anything.

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Speaker 2: You know, maybe they move people like they do a church.

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Speaker 2: Maybe they you know, quietly let people go.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, not surprised me if it was fucking identical.

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Speaker 1: Wouldn't surprise me if it sounds like it's the same scenario.

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Speaker 1: A lot of parents complain and they say they know

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Speaker 1: the troop lea, they're gone, he's he's off somewhere else somewhere,

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Speaker 1: If you do, you not giving them all up. You'd

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Speaker 2: Several states have done this. After struggling the past a

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Speaker 2: And the ROVERSUS way was never settled science, it was

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Speaker 3: We got what we wanted. That's not a white thing.

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Speaker 1: Why is this going back up to the Supreme Court?

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Speaker 2: Funk, I get that. I see what you're saying now.

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Speaker 2: You didn't when I asked you this at first you

440
00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:04,440
Speaker 2: said no. But what you did mean was the white

441
00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:07,879
Speaker 2: people within that community. Correct, Like you you're trying to

442
00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:10,760
Speaker 2: say whiteness overall. But when you brought up that specific

443
00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:13,720
Speaker 2: point about marriage equality, you you meant the white people

444
00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:15,359
Speaker 2: that in that community.

445
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Speaker 3: And I do understand, and I do agree.

446
00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:20,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's it's easy, like it is easier within

447
00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:23,880
Speaker 2: any community, any marginalized community, if there are white.

448
00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:27,280
Speaker 3: People in it. It's easier for us as black people.

449
00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:30,879
Speaker 2: To understand the erosion of rights innately because we just

450
00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:32,960
Speaker 2: have consistently had to fight for our rights, no matter

451
00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:36,600
Speaker 2: what right. And for white people, it's easier to take

452
00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:38,960
Speaker 2: it for granted, whether you know, whether they're in the

453
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Speaker 2: community or not like that, like it's just part of

454
00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:44,600
Speaker 2: their whole makeup of But I have these inalienable rights,

455
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Speaker 2: I you know, I have.

456
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Speaker 3: What about my first Amendment? What about we have? We

457
00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:48,520
Speaker 3: don't have any of our.

458
00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:51,239
Speaker 2: Amendments, We don't have any of our rights acknowledged. All

459
00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:54,040
Speaker 2: of our rights are optional in this country. So Yeah,

460
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Speaker 2: I totally get what you're saying. I just wanted to

461
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Speaker 2: be clear because, like you know, I didn't understand right away.

462
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Speaker 1: Oh and also, and I know for a lot of

463
00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:07,000
Speaker 1: black people that's very frustrating. But I understand how some

464
00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:09,280
Speaker 1: white people once they get quote unquote woke and a

465
00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:13,000
Speaker 1: wear they get this shock, like it's like a shock

466
00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:15,480
Speaker 1: to their system when they realize that Joe Wrights don't

467
00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:19,040
Speaker 1: mean a motherfucking thing to these other white people. I'm white,

468
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,439
Speaker 1: you're white? What do you mean by And they did

469
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:23,760
Speaker 1: a lot of sadness and disappointment.

470
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:25,520
Speaker 3: When they realize the fuck is this?

471
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Speaker 1: But this is something that Nigga's been dealing with for

472
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Speaker 1: a very very very long time. Brown demginalized people have

473
00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:32,480
Speaker 1: been having to fight this battle for very long time.

474
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

475
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Speaker 2: The only thing I would only caveat I would have though,

476
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:37,879
Speaker 2: is that on a lot of this stuff.

477
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Speaker 3: Black people join in. Brown people join in. It's not

478
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Speaker 3: just us. It's not just.

479
00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:46,560
Speaker 2: Like it just depends on what type of privilege. So

480
00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:52,440
Speaker 2: correct if it's like they're perfect example, there's a lot

481
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Speaker 2: of people that you know, we talked about all the

482
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Speaker 2: time of voting. We understood the viting Rights Act get

483
00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:03,320
Speaker 2: struck down with Jerry Mander and all this shit, and

484
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:07,919
Speaker 2: we still have very vocal, prominent, not not just a handful,

485
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:11,000
Speaker 2: but black people saying don't vote, you know, So that's

486
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:14,359
Speaker 2: not just a white person thing. Like anyone can get

487
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:17,000
Speaker 2: caught up in America taking some shit for granted, of

488
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:20,000
Speaker 2: course anyone, And I think that like white people are

489
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:23,600
Speaker 2: obviously more predisposition to do it, but anyone of any

490
00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:26,600
Speaker 2: level of privilege, if you're in a certain class, you know,

491
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Speaker 2: if you got like certain.

492
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Speaker 3: Type of shit, you just see these people and you're like, yo,

493
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Speaker 3: what come, shit are you own? Right now? This ain't

494
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Speaker 3: even real life.

495
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:39,080
Speaker 2: And I think this Tennessee abortion band speaks volumes because

496
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:44,520
Speaker 2: a right, like we know, white women voted for this

497
00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:48,720
Speaker 2: motherfucker and this is the kind of end result of

498
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:52,800
Speaker 2: that voting. And yes, it's going to restrict their own rights, right,

499
00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:58,280
Speaker 2: But that's how much racism appealed to these white women.

500
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Speaker 3: They would rather gamble on their fucking right to choose.

501
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 2: That's so like, it's so insane to me, But in

502
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:09,399
Speaker 2: the context of history, is not insane.

503
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:10,880
Speaker 3: It's right in line with America.

504
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 2: But damn, it's just so it's like, how fucking far

505
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:15,680
Speaker 2: do you have to come to realize you just ain't

506
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 2: gonna nowhere with some of this shit, because it's like,

507
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:22,000
Speaker 2: damn y'all, they're going to just throw the bill out there.

508
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 3: You can't get an abortion.

509
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:25,920
Speaker 2: All the people that will be effected by this shit,

510
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:28,359
Speaker 2: you know, there's gonna be obviously, there's gonna have to

511
00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 2: be court injunctions.

512
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:32,080
Speaker 3: Someone's gonna probably have to be the person to.

513
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Speaker 2: Sue, if not an organization's gonna have to sue all

514
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,560
Speaker 2: with the whole chess game of this going to the

515
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,200
Speaker 2: Supreme Court, because it's no at no point do they

516
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Speaker 2: actually intend to enforce this. They intend until it's in

517
00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:47,320
Speaker 2: the Supreme Court, and then they want.

518
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Speaker 3: To make it the law of the land.

519
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 2: And if they can get if they can get one

520
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:54,360
Speaker 2: of these challenges to the Supreme Court and upheld, or

521
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:58,920
Speaker 2: I mean one of these laws upheld, that will set

522
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 2: off a fucking cavalcad of just different states putting in

523
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 2: like a okay, now it's hoigh turn. Now it's high turn.

524
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:13,680
Speaker 2: And it's so sad and aggressive, but it was predictable.

525
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,920
Speaker 2: I guess it's my ultimate thing. And like you said,

526
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:20,520
Speaker 2: black people, brown people, marginalized people, those of us that

527
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,440
Speaker 2: are paying attention, that pay attention and talk about these

528
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:24,679
Speaker 2: things we knew.

529
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:28,720
Speaker 1: Right, because that's the thing for us is life and death.

530
00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 1: Like we marginalize people don't have the option of not

531
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:36,719
Speaker 1: fucking knowing, Like you might not understand everything, but you

532
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:41,920
Speaker 1: do understand basic shit that directly impacts your goddamn everyday life.

533
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:46,479
Speaker 1: You don't have the option of just not knowing, because

534
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 1: not knowing could mean you be arrested, not knowing could

535
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 1: mean you die, not knowing could mean affect your children

536
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 1: and the people around you. The lack of knowledge, So

537
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,919
Speaker 1: even if you don't know, you'll ask somebody that you

538
00:26:59,080 --> 00:26:59,920
Speaker 1: know know this shit.

539
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:00,679
Speaker 3: You know.

540
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 1: That's why you have a lot of older people than

541
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,640
Speaker 1: my actually younger people out there, you know, what does

542
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:06,360
Speaker 1: this all mean?

543
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:07,200
Speaker 3: What does this mean?

544
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,640
Speaker 1: You know, to kind of keep them educator in Sometimes

545
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 1: some of the old people know more than us because

546
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 1: sometimes they got the time to actually educate themselves when

547
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 1: you're actually trying to live your life and inform.

548
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:16,719
Speaker 3: You own it.

549
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:20,439
Speaker 1: So it's like we're good at informing each other about

550
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 1: these things and how they directly impact you and the

551
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 1: thing that you kind of emphasize the things it's kind

552
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 1: of devastating is that it's whiteness over everything, and and

553
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:34,680
Speaker 1: and and that's the that's the sad part about it,

554
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 1: because if you could get white people to understand that

555
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:45,160
Speaker 1: white people are tricking white people, you know, and actually

556
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 1: the person you the person that's not a billionaire, are

557
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 1: actually in the same boat as me. But as long

558
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 1: as they can continue the illusion that you're better and

559
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 1: you continue to buy in, this is the end results.

560
00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 3: Yeah.

561
00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 2: I mean, basically with white foes, it's only like three groups.

562
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 2: It's the people that are up on game and they

563
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:08,360
Speaker 2: realize what's going on, and you know, they're doing their

564
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 2: best to try to like fight against it, very very

565
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 2: small group. Then you have a bunch of people that

566
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 2: are just they don't see the game and they don't

567
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 2: give a fuck, and they don't and like they're like

568
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 2: they don't give a fuck, they don't see the game,

569
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 2: they don't understand, and it's they're kind of stupid, right,

570
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 2: They're just they think all this shit is just happening

571
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 2: with just somehow just miraculously, and you know, and they

572
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 2: believe the news and they believe all the shit that

573
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 2: you know, they used to be fucking anyway, I'm about

574
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 2: to go on the tangent on that book again.

575
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 3: But then then the other group is just the.

576
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 2: Motherfuckers that are complicit and willfully complicit, and they push

577
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 2: racism and all this shit against us.

578
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 3: So you know, those are like the only three groups

579
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 3: of white folks, And I think voting brings that out.

580
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 1: Right.

581
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 2: You have your people that willfully vote for like Trump,

582
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 2: and they really want to see him win because they're

583
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 2: all in on this white supremacy shit. They don't give

584
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 2: a fuck about losing cold jobs or any of that shit.

585
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 2: They care about him making black people feel scared, making

586
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 2: immigrants feel scared, making trans people feel scared, making gay

587
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 2: people feel scared.

588
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 1: What they voted for.

589
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 2: They voted for him to put everyone back in line

590
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 2: after eight years of Obama.

591
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 3: They need him, They need us back in line.

592
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 2: And then, and if that sacrifices their right to have

593
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 2: a child or not have a child, to decide that,

594
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 2: so be it. If that sacrifices their cold jobs, fuck it.

595
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 2: If they're not gonna be able to get if cars

596
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 2: and all these companies are gonna start moving out of

597
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 2: manufacturing now, if terriffs are gonna be fucked up and

598
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:37,960
Speaker 2: your farm's gonna go under.

599
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 3: They're willing to pay that cost one hundred.

600
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 1: Yes they are, because online today they were saying that

601
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 1: America lost, like one is a lot of farmers are

602
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 1: going to be affected because China was like, oh, some

603
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 1: of them crops, we not buying them cross because of

604
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 1: the tariffs. So billions of dollars all of a sudden,

605
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 1: hein't going to these farmers because these fucking terriffs.

606
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then you you know, and then you have

607
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 2: obviously the white people that the quote unquote woke white

608
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 2: people and shit, But it's just not that many of them. No,

609
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 2: that's just the real talker, Like there are white people

610
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 2: that vote Democrats that don't actually give a fuck about us,

611
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 2: like they might care about some other shit, which is

612
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 2: you know, one of the things I like about the

613
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 2: Democratic Party. Everybody always shits on the Democratic Party, but

614
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 2: I like the Democratic Party because it's the most American

615
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 2: of the parties, Like it makes more sense.

616
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 3: It's no, we don't agree on everything.

617
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 2: But these sets of issues, if we can kind of

618
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 2: bring people together on some of it, you need some

619
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 2: people from my part, my group to join your group,

620
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 2: Like that's actually America. America, isn't this fucking republican side

621
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 2: of it where it's just like we all agree white

622
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 2: men over everything. Like there's those people who are willing

623
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 2: to sacrifice everything, and then there's people on the other

624
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 2: side that, you know, for all the headache that they have,

625
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 2: they are a much better party. They are much better

626
00:30:56,000 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 2: people despite all the shit, despite you know, the.

627
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 3: Human failings of any group of people.

628
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 2: I would much rather be on that side of things

629
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 2: than the fucking white people over everything side, at least

630
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 2: of the choices we have right now. But yeah, there's

631
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 2: a lot of white people that you know, they might

632
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 2: not be Like That's why I'm always kind of find

633
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 2: it funny when like the criticism of a white politician

634
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 2: is they white.

635
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, no fucking shit, you.

636
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 2: Know what I mean, Like like, okay, you know what

637
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 2: I mean. And if it was a black person, guess

638
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 2: what they gonna have some shit you don't like too, Like,

639
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 2: no one person gonna harness all the fucking beliefs of everybody.

640
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,959
Speaker 3: Dog, So we gotta get over that part of it.

641
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's so interesting to see like how much

642
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 2: it's like Repubgians are put into the test to be like,

643
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 2: how much would you sacrifice for white supremacy?

644
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 3: And yeah, it's a lot.

645
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 1: They know everything.

646
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 3: Oh, let's see what else happened. Uh, you know what.

647
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 3: Let's get into some uh some games. L g B

648
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Speaker 3: t Q news.

649
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 4: I mean, oh wait, Spotify gonna work today.

650
00:32:52,120 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 3: That's something I want to ask you. That's saying, Matt,

651
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 3: I won't.

652
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 1: To know and tell this question.

653
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 3: You have the answer, So tell me what I won't

654
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 3: to know.

655
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 1: You.

656
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 3: He'll want a funk? You he don't want a funk?

657
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 3: Won't you tell me now? Won't you tell me now?

658
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 3: If you want a punk, let me show who you

659
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 3: have do. He'll want a phone with me? Do you

660
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 3: want a phone with me? All right?

661
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 2: Lgbt's time, guys. Lots of stuff happening. Uh, some good,

662
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 2: lot bad. We'll see what we can do.

663
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 3: Oh, let's see where can we start.

664
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 2: A model who worked for Fini and Mark Jacobs falsely

665
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 2: comes out of trans.

666
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 3: What why would you do that?

667
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 2: A model who previously worked for Mark Jacobs and Rihanna's

668
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 2: Fincy Fashion lines facing a furious backlash for falsely claiming

669
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:11,440
Speaker 2: to be a transgender woman after coming under fire for

670
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 2: posting transphobic comments on social media.

671
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 3: God damn it.

672
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 2: Carissa Pinxton, who was thought to be based in New York,

673
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 2: first landed herself in the center of a sensational controversy

674
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 2: when she was called out for posting transphobic remarks on

675
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:28,839
Speaker 2: her Facebook page, including statements that read being transgender does

676
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 2: not make you a woman. Then, in the wake of

677
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 2: a hard fire reaction from other social media users, Carissa,

678
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:39,839
Speaker 2: who was posting under the name Rissa Danelle Danielle, came

679
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 2: out as transgender, and what has now been revealed as

680
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 2: a shocking line, she made an attempt to stop criticism

681
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:56,400
Speaker 2: of a previous post, Why.

682
00:34:56,800 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 3: Hmmm, why wow wow wow hmmm, that is a new one.

683
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 3: That is a newing that that I don't think I've

684
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 3: ever seen that one before.

685
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:19,279
Speaker 1: Oh the things that people have to deal with, and

686
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 1: you can more fucking lie about it.

687
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 3: Why would you play like that?

688
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 1: People die and get beaten the street every day and

689
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 1: you gonna god damn lied about like it's a fucking.

690
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 2: Game just to get Twitter off your ass. Yeah. At

691
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 2: the time of Falseley coming out, Carrissa Road, I wasn't

692
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:42,880
Speaker 2: ready to come out about it yet, But today I

693
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 2: got fired, and I've been receiving hate mail and death

694
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:45,919
Speaker 2: threats ever since.

695
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 3: So I'm being forced to tell the truth. I'm transgender.

696
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:54,320
Speaker 3: So you said some shit they got you fired? Wow, Wow,

697
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:55,239
Speaker 3: this is no.

698
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 2: Actually no, it's not even the same. This is I've

699
00:35:57,640 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 2: never heard this before. Yeah, I was gonna say it

700
00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:02,399
Speaker 2: was Kevin Spacey, but it's actually not. Kevin Spacey is gay.

701
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 2: He just tried to use it as a distraction from

702
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 2: the horrible shitt.

703
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 3: He's accused though. Right this, this is even worse. You

704
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 3: made that part up too, made it up.

705
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 2: Carista restders I, her agency Elite model manager, dropped her

706
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:18,320
Speaker 2: over transphobic Facebook posts after they were revealed to the public.

707
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 2: This inspire her to come out falsely as transgender, and

708
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 2: a statement on Instagram, I transitioned at a very young age,

709
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 2: and I've lived my life as a female ever since,

710
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 2: she claimed. At the time, I've been very it's been

711
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 2: very hard to keep this cigarette. But what I said

712
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 2: about trans women is a direct reflection of my inner insecurities,

713
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:35,359
Speaker 2: and I have since come to realize that I am

714
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:35,840
Speaker 2: a woman.

715
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:36,719
Speaker 3: We all are.

716
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 2: The statement has since been deleted. This is so, that's

717
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 2: so insulting.

718
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 1: Yes, it is.

719
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:48,239
Speaker 2: It's like if a comedian got caught doing blackface, and

720
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 2: then when they brought it up, there's like I found

721
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 2: out I'm one eighth black guys.

722
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:54,319
Speaker 3: Hey, you can't come on.

723
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 1: Guys, and you know what, and it makes me think

724
00:36:57,160 --> 00:37:02,400
Speaker 1: and we talked about it and everybody we got words.

725
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 1: Now we got worse. We got the words like like

726
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 1: I hate the harp on that, but we got the

727
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 1: words can be good, and we got the words could

728
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 1: be bad. We got the words because she was like, oh,

729
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 1: y'all gonna find me over some bullshit. So I'm gonna

730
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 1: make you feel bad for firing me. You wrong.

731
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:23,799
Speaker 2: Let me mimic trans people who come out and see

732
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 2: if I performed that, if y'a would leave me alone

733
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 2: and get my job back and shit. But the backlash

734
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:31,320
Speaker 2: only continued for Charissa's multiple models in the industry revealed

735
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 2: she was lying about her gender identity and she's always

736
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:36,399
Speaker 2: been a female at last. Williams o'mdel, who previously worked

737
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 2: with Charrissa for Nike, was one person who specifically.

738
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 3: Called Chris out for lying or followers.

739
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,919
Speaker 2: I've seen baby pictures of Carissa, I've seen her fully naked.

740
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 2: I've been around this woman long enough to fully know

741
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 2: her at least road in the comment we have many

742
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 2: trans friends, this conversation would have definitely been brought up.

743
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 2: She further pushed to her statements by saying she was

744
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 2: pro trans but would not allow Chrissa the lot of people.

745
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:57,799
Speaker 3: A few days following the.

746
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 2: Natal Leader to comment coming out statement, and Chrissa apologized

747
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 2: for claiming to be transgender. I apologize for any transphobic

748
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 2: remark I ever made towards the trans community, she wrote,

749
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 2: adding I panic and I thought if I came out

750
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,240
Speaker 2: as trans, I could somehow make things better for myself.

751
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:12,839
Speaker 2: But it appears I've only made things worse. I'm truly sorry.

752
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 2: I'm only twenty and I'm human. I make mistakes, but

753
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 2: I refuse to let them defind me. I hope you

754
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 2: all can forgive me and move on from this, because

755
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:20,799
Speaker 2: I'm so much more than this incident, and I'm not

756
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:26,760
Speaker 2: a coward. The apologies has also been deleted. Okay, okay,

757
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 2: hold up, though, hold up, I do want to say

758
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 2: this is also the danger of living on social media

759
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:42,359
Speaker 2: like that, right, Because it became so important to her

760
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 2: to get them off her ass that she just fucking

761
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,880
Speaker 2: did whatever it took, which we made it much fucking

762
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:54,320
Speaker 2: worse like the original offense fucked up. But let's be frank,

763
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 2: a lot of people, not just her, A lot of

764
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 2: people have said or done something transphobic out of either ignorance,

765
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 2: out of or.

766
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,279
Speaker 3: Just plain meanness and stupidity.

767
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 2: Transphobia, whatever it is, transphobia is not that uncommon. People

768
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 2: might try to maybe on your social media, you can

769
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 2: make it into this like scarlet letter and transphobia, people just.

770
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 3: Aren't around you.

771
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:24,359
Speaker 2: But in life in general, there's a lot of transphobia

772
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:27,399
Speaker 2: something that I would imagine.

773
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 3: Even if it offends you, just like racism offends me.

774
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 2: There's a certain tolerance that I have for racism where

775
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:34,799
Speaker 2: I'm like, in order for me to survive, I have

776
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 2: to navigate this racist ass world. So I'm not actually

777
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:40,359
Speaker 2: like burning down everything over the time when I see

778
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 2: something racist all the time. Right, you probably could have

779
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 2: been forgiven for your initial comment when you got exposed

780
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,760
Speaker 2: or whatever, if you would have come out and been like, yo, listen,

781
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 2: I said that shit.

782
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:55,919
Speaker 3: It was fucked up. I had no fucking business even

783
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 3: talking about that shit.

784
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 2: I don't feel that way now, if that, if that's

785
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 2: how you don't if you have evolved as you claiming

786
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 2: all the shit boom, you could have did it that way,

787
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:07,760
Speaker 2: you know, it would have made it a lot easier

788
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:13,359
Speaker 2: to believe you once you compounded with the lot which

789
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:18,799
Speaker 2: almost mocks trans people, like on some only we can

790
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 2: say that word type shit. Now I can't believe you.

791
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 2: I wish I could, but I honestly can't believe within

792
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 2: that next two days you can't full circle and you're

793
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:34,800
Speaker 2: now extremely sorry and you're like, only time will tell

794
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 2: if you are sorry and if you're gonna do better,

795
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:40,759
Speaker 2: But not within forty eight hours do I believe you

796
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 2: have had a full realization of it. I feel it

797
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 2: feels like your line wouldn't float because people, other famous

798
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 2: people called your ass out and then you had to

799
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:47,879
Speaker 2: take it back.

800
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:52,320
Speaker 1: Yes, true, only time will tell. And the thing about

801
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 1: social media, and I will continue to say this, social

802
00:40:55,640 --> 00:41:00,120
Speaker 1: media and real life are two different genres. Almost some

803
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 1: things in social media that affect real life. There are

804
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 1: some things in real life that affect social media, yes,

805
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 1: but overall the bubbles are different because there are some

806
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:12,279
Speaker 1: shit that happens online and people that are online that

807
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:14,800
Speaker 1: we think is life or death. You talk to somebody

808
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 1: that ain't on social media that, but like, who the

809
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 1: fuck is that? I don't know and I don't care.

810
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 1: Like that's the reality of it. And people don't want

811
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:25,240
Speaker 1: to accept this. So when you deal on social media

812
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 1: with these no apology ass niggas online, yes they're gonna

813
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:30,959
Speaker 1: ride you and no matter what you say, it will

814
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:32,280
Speaker 1: not be sufficient.

815
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you can also say shit that makes it worse.

816
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 2: Correct, And she did, like this wasn't even just a

817
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 2: matter of like, because we talk about all the time.

818
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,880
Speaker 3: This wasn't just social media unforgiveness.

819
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 2: This was you being like it's like you got consand

820
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 2: black face that tried to make up for it by

821
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 2: saying nigger, Like what that's way worse. Like you just

822
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 2: made it worse. You like people might have understood. Not everybody.

823
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 2: Some people would have been mad. I get that, but

824
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 2: some people people I might to understood more of you

825
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 2: was like, yo, I said that, and I'm sorry I

826
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 2: fucked up, because then you know what will happen her

827
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 2: friends in her community around her that know her now,

828
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 2: if she really has changed or whatever, we'll be like, yeah,

829
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 2: she doesn't act like that around me.

830
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 3: She doesn't talk like that. You know, we've been friends.

831
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 2: I didn't even know she said something like that, and

832
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 2: you know, move it from there as opposed to what

833
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 2: she did now, which is a woman that is her

834
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 2: friend Euphoria's Euphoria actress Hunter Shaffer, who was transgender, basically

835
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 2: said yeah, I'm we not cool no more. At Carisa

836
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 2: was like, yes, she stopped speaking to me. I lost

837
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 2: a friendship over this. I tried calling and she wouldn't

838
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 2: pick it up. I hate to do this because it

839
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:47,360
Speaker 2: doesn't concern her, but me being quote unquote transphomic is

840
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:50,319
Speaker 2: stupid as shit when I love trans people, Carissa wrote,

841
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:52,799
Speaker 2: fuck these haters trying to make me look bad. I've

842
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 2: been friends on Hunter before all these comments, and now

843
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 2: she won't even talk to me. You don't know what

844
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:59,280
Speaker 2: it's like to lose all your friends behind a misunderstanding.

845
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, she didn't learn and.

846
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 1: Ship man right, that that and that, and and that

847
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:06,439
Speaker 1: boils down to you living in that social media world.

848
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:07,360
Speaker 3: Because the reason why.

849
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 1: She panted in lied and it kind of you know,

850
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 1: added to it, is because of social media. Like you know,

851
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 1: she felt like she had to respond, She felt like

852
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:21,920
Speaker 1: she had to clean it up. That pressure, you know,

853
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:25,399
Speaker 1: online pressure, the pressure you would not get in real life.

854
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:27,279
Speaker 1: I mean, not that you wouldn't get in real life.

855
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:28,759
Speaker 1: Of course, people would get on your as in real

856
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 1: life too, but it's one of those things where it's

857
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 1: it's not the same if you are not consistently in

858
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 1: these bubbles.

859
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 3: Well you know what it is. Though.

860
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 2: She was trying to win the internet, correct, and there's

861
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:44,239
Speaker 2: no winning when you fuck up, you know, But she

862
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 2: tried to win the Internet, and that I mean, it

863
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:50,839
Speaker 2: sounds like she's just I mean, I know twenty is

864
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:53,840
Speaker 2: really young and ship, but it just sounds like she

865
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 2: just tripled down on being a terrible person in the

866
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:00,840
Speaker 2: course of this ship and that's why she's losing stuff.

867
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 1: My friend, this transgender isn't speaking to me because of

868
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 1: the I did.

869
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:07,439
Speaker 3: Woe was me?

870
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 2: Right, she still made herself the victim and all this,

871
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 2: so so it's hard to believe she has really any

872
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 2: understanding of the impact of what she said, and that

873
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 2: she's just deleting stuff just to try to get out

874
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 2: of this. She also deleted all the comments about it,

875
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:27,719
Speaker 2: and she started just posting pictures of her modeling pictures

876
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:31,799
Speaker 2: on her Instagram and stuff to basically just you know,

877
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 2: to post act like it didn't.

878
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 3: I don't know if she could, if she did that

879
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:36,759
Speaker 3: or not.

880
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:39,319
Speaker 1: I just know, you know, because anytime it posts people

881
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 1: people are gonna be on the ass it line.

882
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 2: So yeah, she had a booming modeling career going before

883
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:51,400
Speaker 2: the post, but I don't know. We'll see if she

884
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 2: can and then because nobody gets canceled, maybe somebody will

885
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 2: hire her anyway. It's just that industry has so many,

886
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 2: so much well you know what. It's a lot of gay,

887
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 2: but not a lot of trans.

888
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 3: So she might be all right, she might be all right.

889
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 2: There might be people that's like, I actually don't give

890
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 2: a fuck about trans people, go ahead and come work

891
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 2: for me as a model, you know.

892
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:18,799
Speaker 3: So who knows. But that's terrible, man. Let's see what

893
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 3: else you got here.

894
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 5: Uh.

895
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:26,840
Speaker 2: Disney features first teenage gay couple in Andy Mack series finale.

896
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 2: The Disney Channel is apparently breaking barriers by featuring the

897
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 2: first teenage gay cup on the show Andy Mack. According

898
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 2: to Pink News, a revolutionary moment occurred during the show

899
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 2: series finale when the character Cyrus Goodman confessed to one

900
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 2: of his classmates, TJ Kipping, that he got to crush on.

901
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 3: Him from the from the report, Is there anything else

902
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:46,799
Speaker 3: you want to tell me? Cyr TJ?

903
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 2: Plase yeah and ask the same the same question, Yes,

904
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 2: Sire says, before reaching out holding TJ's hand, as if

905
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:55,959
Speaker 2: that wasn't enough to payoffs or sing along to Lady

906
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 2: God God's LGBTQ plus acceptance anthem born this way in

907
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 2: the episode. The show ended its third season, which will

908
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:05,440
Speaker 2: poorly be his last, so the relationship would not develop

909
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:05,959
Speaker 2: any further.

910
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 3: Andy Mack has consistently pushed LGBT representation on the show, beginning.

911
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 2: In twenty seventeen, when the character Syr's good Man confessed

912
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 2: to a friend that he liked another boy. Earlier this year,

913
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:17,760
Speaker 2: the show broke new ground when Cyrus said the words

914
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 2: I'm gay, becoming the first Disney character to do so.

915
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 2: Shout up to the fact that this was happening and

916
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 2: I didn't even know about it, which is actually kind

917
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 2: of dope that because I was assuming the reason we

918
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 2: didn't really know about it because it wasn't that much

919
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 2: outrage that it took over everything, because Tada, some kids

920
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 2: is gay and they would like this, They'd like to see.

921
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 3: Themselves represented on TV the same way.

922
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 2: Anytime I saw a black character, I glombed onto it

923
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 2: on every show I watched, like, ooh, black person, Like,

924
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 2: I'm sure if you're gay, Like this world that Disney

925
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:55,320
Speaker 2: and Nickelodeon and all these places that are for kids

926
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 2: have created where there's just no gay people, Like, what

927
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:02,319
Speaker 2: is that telling you about yourself? After Tuesday Nights episode air,

928
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:05,439
Speaker 2: people responded to the representation rather enthusiastically on social media,

929
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:07,320
Speaker 2: with some fans calling for a spin off show centered

930
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 2: on the relationship. This scene is going to be so

931
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 2: important for so many kids going up watching this right now.

932
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:13,880
Speaker 2: They'll get to look back at this and think this

933
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:15,799
Speaker 2: show let me know that I would be okay, said

934
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 2: one Twitter user in the viral tweet. Actor Joshua Rush,

935
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 2: who played Sir, said, guys, gals and NB pals, I

936
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 2: can now tell you tyres in Gang Cannon and confirm

937
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:29,319
Speaker 2: honored to be a part of such a groundwreaking show.

938
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 2: I hope my character can inspire.

939
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 3: People to be proud of who they are and love

940
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 3: who they love, said actor Luke Millan, who played tj Andy.

941
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 2: Matt creator Terry Minsky said in a statement back in April,

942
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 2: after Disney announce the show's cancelation, that she was honored

943
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:46,879
Speaker 2: to push LGBT representation in such a big way. We

944
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 2: were his first serialized show, it's first series centered around

945
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 2: an Asian American family, and it's first to feature LGBTQ

946
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:56,360
Speaker 2: character who spoke the words I'm gay, said Minsky. But

947
00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 2: the best part of making Andy Mack was our audience,

948
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:00,360
Speaker 2: who let us know we mad at to them, and

949
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 2: the serious finale is for them. Of course, Andy Mack

950
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 2: is not the first Disney Channel show to feature a

951
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:08,359
Speaker 2: gay couple. That occurred in twenty fourteen with the show

952
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:10,400
Speaker 2: Good Look Charlie, when it was revealed that a character

953
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 2: had a lesbian mom couple and the storyline parents and

954
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 2: Amy and Bob Duncan set up a playdate for a

955
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:19,959
Speaker 2: preschool of Charlie and one of her new friends. When

956
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 2: the kid arrives, the Duncans learned that Charlie's power has

957
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:25,319
Speaker 2: two moms. That's fine, but the potential new friendship is

958
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:27,320
Speaker 2: put to the test as one mom chats with Amy

959
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 2: and the other is stuck listening to Bob's.

960
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 3: The old stories.

961
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:35,880
Speaker 2: Oh sitcoms never change, So yeah, man, that's dope.

962
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:38,280
Speaker 3: I think that's dope, too bad at the series finale

963
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:38,840
Speaker 3: or whatever.

964
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 2: But that might also been like them testing the waters,

965
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 2: being like, well, these motherfuckers can't cancel us now, right,

966
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:47,400
Speaker 2: you know, like what y'all gonna be mad, y'all gonna

967
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:50,399
Speaker 2: call Disney and say cancel the show. But if it

968
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 2: wasn't that harsh of a reaction to it, it also makes

969
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 2: me feel like, hopefully that means the next show that

970
00:48:57,280 --> 00:49:00,879
Speaker 2: picks up the torch won't be scared anymore, like, oh,

971
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:03,919
Speaker 2: these this show already did that, so we don't got

972
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:06,799
Speaker 2: to go through all that. Hey, we're starting off these

973
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 2: people is gay? All right, let's go like, you know,

974
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:12,359
Speaker 2: no more, like, well we gottah, what do we get canceled? Well,

975
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 2: they didn't cancel, uh andy Max, so boom, let's go.

976
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:19,879
Speaker 1: What about the one hundred moms on the million mom uh.

977
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 3: The chart list?

978
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:24,840
Speaker 1: You know, the million moms, but about about two hundred

979
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 1: of them, right, but they claim it's a million, right.

980
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:32,800
Speaker 3: And I also appreciating that story that it wasn't like that. Lad.

981
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 2: Oh the first time we did some gay shit was

982
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 2: this episode, Like nah, it's it's we've been doing gay shit, Okay,

983
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:42,799
Speaker 2: we just we're just going out the gayest nigga. Now

984
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:45,359
Speaker 2: what kids be gay and they be liking each other.

985
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:45,760
Speaker 1: Peace.

986
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 2: All right, let's see Taylor Swift talk supporting the LGBTQ community.

987
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 3: I can't imagine what my fans.

988
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 2: In the lgbt community, LGBTQ community might be thinking she's

989
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:02,880
Speaker 2: opening about. While she's speaking out and supported the LGBTQ

990
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 2: community the past few months, was to have been publicly

991
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 2: showing her support for the LGBTQ. She recently endorsed a

992
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:13,439
Speaker 2: pro LGBTQ politician, created a petition to change the Equality Act,

993
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 2: and released a video called you Need to Calm Down

994
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:20,920
Speaker 2: to highlights the LGBTQ community. Some speculated Swift was a conservative,

995
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:23,800
Speaker 2: particularly after a silence during the twenty sixteen presidential election.

996
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 2: Some fans feel her seemingly new found feelings towards the

997
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 2: community are new.

998
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 3: But how you gonna that's that?

999
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:38,879
Speaker 2: Uh that's a pretty uh loaded sentence there. It's seemingly new.

1000
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:44,280
Speaker 2: Some people think it's new. You just said it was new. Sorry,

1001
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:47,879
Speaker 2: that's hilarious. But it was her interview at Vogue where

1002
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:50,799
Speaker 2: the Songs We spoke about her uncomfortable moment with her

1003
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 2: friend hashtag tatterick Hall who that made.

1004
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 3: Her want to get more involved.

1005
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 2: Maybe a year or two ago, Toddrick and I are

1006
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:00,040
Speaker 2: in the car, Teler said, and he asked me what

1007
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:02,239
Speaker 2: you do if your son was gay? And, according to Taylor,

1008
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:04,319
Speaker 2: question shocked that the fact that he had to ask

1009
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 2: me shocked me and made me realize that I had

1010
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:08,399
Speaker 2: not made my position clear enough or loud enough. If

1011
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:10,320
Speaker 2: my son was gay, he'd be gay. I don't understand

1012
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:13,280
Speaker 2: the question. Swift said to Vogue that if her friend

1013
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 2: wondered if she was anti gay, then her fans like

1014
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 2: to have too. If he was thinking that, I can't

1015
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:20,720
Speaker 2: imagine what my fans in the LGBTQ community might.

1016
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 3: Have been thinking.

1017
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:23,480
Speaker 2: It was kind of devastating to realize that I hadn't

1018
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 2: been publicly clear about that. She added Swift, change has

1019
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:29,280
Speaker 2: greatly impacted voter registration, and her change out or petition

1020
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:29,959
Speaker 2: has more than.

1021
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 3: Half a million signatures. Well, good for her, you know.

1022
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:40,560
Speaker 2: I also think Taylor Swifts such an instant interesting case

1023
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 2: study because people haven't have and I mean this on

1024
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:48,400
Speaker 2: both people that hate her people that love her.

1025
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 3: Have made her like this.

1026
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:56,800
Speaker 2: Very symbolism of whiteness of white womanness. And I don't

1027
00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:59,160
Speaker 2: know that she fits all the boxes that people want

1028
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 2: to put her in, so can hate her or love her,

1029
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 2: but it don't stop people from doing it. Like you

1030
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 2: had straight up white supremacists being like mm hm, Taylor Swift,

1031
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 2: that's that's Bay, that's that's what a perfect woman is

1032
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:13,400
Speaker 2: right there, and.

1033
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:16,080
Speaker 1: My tall milk magnesium right.

1034
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:20,719
Speaker 2: And even with her personal politics or songs and all

1035
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:25,000
Speaker 2: this shit not fitting that mold of like, yes, it's

1036
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:28,399
Speaker 2: all about white power over here. People was like, yep,

1037
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 2: she down with it unless she say she not, you know,

1038
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:33,360
Speaker 2: which is to me kind of was always kind.

1039
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 3: Of a stretch anyway. But then even when she.

1040
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 2: Started to which is one of the reason I try

1041
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:40,440
Speaker 2: not to get into hating people specifically, because when she

1042
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 2: started to make changes and be more bold and more like, Okay,

1043
00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:47,920
Speaker 2: let me be more outspoken about this because I'm not

1044
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 2: on these people's side, you still have people that hate

1045
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 2: her that don't want to let that be true, which

1046
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 2: is bonkers to me.

1047
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:56,800
Speaker 3: We don't know these people.

1048
00:52:57,160 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 1: They don't want to give a power of allusion to power.

1049
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:02,480
Speaker 1: But somebody you don't fucking know, You don't know these

1050
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 1: people y'all.

1051
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:06,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, but nah, it's I don't know. It's like I

1052
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:09,400
Speaker 2: don't know when it happened specifically, but at some point,

1053
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:14,440
Speaker 2: like it really became a divisive issue just bringing.

1054
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 3: Up Taylor Swift, which is I don't know, that's that's

1055
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:19,440
Speaker 3: so much.

1056
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:23,400
Speaker 2: To put into one person and from at least to

1057
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 2: my knowledge, and we've covered a lot of the ship

1058
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:28,400
Speaker 2: that has been controversial around her, a lot of the

1059
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:32,239
Speaker 2: ship that uh has made big, major news around her.

1060
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:34,319
Speaker 3: I don't find her.

1061
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 2: To be like this evil motherfucker, Like I know, for

1062
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 2: a long time people will call her darth Becky and

1063
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:40,280
Speaker 2: shit like that.

1064
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 3: I'm not saying she's a great person.

1065
00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 2: I'm not saying she has never fucked up either, But

1066
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:48,880
Speaker 2: I just don't find it to be like this. Like

1067
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:52,120
Speaker 2: when I think of fucked up white women, she doesn't

1068
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 2: come to my mind at the top of the list.

1069
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 3: Like there's a lot, there's a lot worse. Yeah, like

1070
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 3: Lena Dunham is worse to me, you know what I mean,

1071
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 3: Like there's a lot, there's a lot of white women.

1072
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:05,920
Speaker 2: I'm just like, Okay, that person is just really fucked

1073
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:09,359
Speaker 2: up in trash, you know, fucked up, Like, don't want

1074
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 2: to change, don't ever, don't you know. But she just

1075
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:14,440
Speaker 2: never did that for me. But I do think the

1076
00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:18,120
Speaker 2: symbol of her. Matter of fact, it's a perfect time

1077
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:19,719
Speaker 2: to get into this because I was gonna talk about this.

1078
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:23,440
Speaker 2: I was gonna talk about this anyway. So there's another

1079
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:27,880
Speaker 2: article for her where she was in this interview, and

1080
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:34,480
Speaker 2: she talked about how, essentially how she felt being canceled

1081
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:39,959
Speaker 2: following the Kim Kardashian feud, right and canceled in quotes,

1082
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:43,720
Speaker 2: because she wasn't actually canceled, does she. She's not saying,

1083
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:45,840
Speaker 2: I tell I don't no one will buy my music.

1084
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:48,640
Speaker 2: I'm canceled. I can't make money. She's not saying that.

1085
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:50,760
Speaker 3: She's still torn and all that shit. But she was saying,

1086
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 3: like the deluge of like Internet hatred like got to her,

1087
00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 3: even somebody as famous as that. Someone's someone that.

1088
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:03,360
Speaker 2: People would feels above like reproach, like you're too famous

1089
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:05,360
Speaker 2: to be feeling fucked with by the Internet.

1090
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 3: But she did. Because I think all these people do.

1091
00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:10,920
Speaker 3: We're fooling ourselves.

1092
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 2: Thinking that fame and money and celebrity actually stops people

1093
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:15,400
Speaker 2: from having feelings.

1094
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:16,360
Speaker 3: That's not what happens.

1095
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:19,080
Speaker 1: So many people think daddy. You can tell by the

1096
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:19,800
Speaker 1: way they respond.

1097
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:22,760
Speaker 2: A lot of like dead famous people that took themselves

1098
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:25,319
Speaker 2: out because they couldn't have it. They couldn't handle this shit,

1099
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 2: Like it's way deeper than people think. But anyway, so

1100
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 2: she was saying that it was a Vogue cover story,

1101
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:37,160
Speaker 2: and she was talking about, you know, feeling like she

1102
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 2: got bullied after that incident, you know, and a lot

1103
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:49,000
Speaker 2: of people, you know, canceled Taylor Swift the snake, snake

1104
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:51,400
Speaker 2: emoji things that was going on in her feed on

1105
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:53,920
Speaker 2: Instagram and Twitter and stuff. A lot of people was

1106
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:56,000
Speaker 2: on some like, yeah, fuck her, She's the worst all

1107
00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:58,319
Speaker 2: this stuff. And I remember when we covered that during

1108
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:03,200
Speaker 2: the show being like, yeah, but I can see her point.

1109
00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:05,160
Speaker 2: It just don't matter because y'all don't like her, so

1110
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:07,280
Speaker 2: we laughing at it, but correct.

1111
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:09,240
Speaker 3: When the Kanye shit.

1112
00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:13,440
Speaker 2: Happened, specifically, how do you remember it happening? Like, do

1113
00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:17,080
Speaker 2: you remember, like I feel like most people remember it

1114
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:20,080
Speaker 2: as her saying I never heard this song, I never

1115
00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:24,160
Speaker 2: talked to him. He he just made us out of nowhere.

1116
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:27,280
Speaker 2: And then they put out a tape like, ah, bitch,

1117
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:29,479
Speaker 2: we talked to you. This is us on the tape

1118
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:32,160
Speaker 2: make getting your approval of the song, and that's how

1119
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:34,319
Speaker 2: most people remember it or seem to take it. And

1120
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:36,840
Speaker 2: I think that's because they don't like her, right correct,

1121
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 2: But that's not what happened.

1122
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 3: What happened was.

1123
00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 2: He got part of the lyrics approved from her and

1124
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:47,760
Speaker 2: he was like, yeah, it's a I'm gonna make this joke.

1125
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:49,480
Speaker 3: It's in the song. It's just it's just kind of

1126
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:50,239
Speaker 3: a funny thing.

1127
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:53,359
Speaker 2: We're friends now, so I can say and it's I'm

1128
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:56,000
Speaker 2: gonna say, I feel like we still might have sex,

1129
00:56:57,200 --> 00:57:00,120
Speaker 2: you know, because you know, like you know, because I

1130
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:03,400
Speaker 2: mean and he didn't even say the second line. He said,

1131
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:06,480
Speaker 2: to all my south Side niggas that know me best,

1132
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:08,760
Speaker 2: I feel like me and Taylor Mike still have sex.

1133
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:12,839
Speaker 2: And she was like, okay, yeah, because people it's a joke.

1134
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 2: People get that it's you know, funny.

1135
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:17,240
Speaker 3: Then when the song came out.

1136
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:21,320
Speaker 2: In the video, he it was to all my south

1137
00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:24,280
Speaker 2: Side niggas that know me best, I feel like Taylor Swift.

1138
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:27,440
Speaker 2: I think he even said, owe me sex. Actually, let

1139
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:32,720
Speaker 2: me look up these lyrics real quick because I want

1140
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:36,080
Speaker 2: to be meticulous here. And then the second part of it,

1141
00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:38,000
Speaker 2: though I do know off the top of my head,

1142
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:42,760
Speaker 2: made that bitch famous, which he did not say to

1143
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:44,720
Speaker 2: her on the phone and did not try to explain

1144
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:50,240
Speaker 2: to her. Yeah, and if and if people feel like

1145
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:56,040
Speaker 2: that would not make you feel differently, you might be lying.

1146
00:57:57,720 --> 00:57:59,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, he said, might has sex. Okay, cool, coach,

1147
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 3: gonna make sure.

1148
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:05,520
Speaker 2: But yeah, so you know, you would be lying if

1149
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:07,680
Speaker 2: if I said we're gonna make a joke about you

1150
00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 2: on the show, it's gonna be like this, and you're

1151
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:11,400
Speaker 2: like cool, and I say, okay, I got your approval.

1152
00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:14,040
Speaker 3: Then on the show I add some name calling.

1153
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:16,160
Speaker 2: To the shit, you might feel differently about the shit,

1154
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:19,080
Speaker 2: like hold up. Then of course the video comes out

1155
00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:22,760
Speaker 2: and it's like a nigked Taylor Swift look alike in

1156
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:25,320
Speaker 2: the bed with him and all this shit. Keep in mind,

1157
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:27,480
Speaker 2: this is a nigga that bum rushed the stage when

1158
00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:30,280
Speaker 2: she won her award and told her, you know, basically

1159
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:33,400
Speaker 2: said Beyonce had the better video or whatever because he

1160
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:35,520
Speaker 2: was drunk and made the moment all about her and

1161
00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:37,640
Speaker 2: all this shit. I mean all about him and all

1162
00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:40,560
Speaker 2: this shit in a way that I'm sure even Beyonce

1163
00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:44,280
Speaker 2: didn't want him to do that shit. You know, So

1164
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:48,320
Speaker 2: It's kind of interesting to see people like immediately be

1165
00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:54,040
Speaker 2: like nah, Taylor Swift is exposed. I'm like, nah, that

1166
00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:58,320
Speaker 2: didn't really prove anything like it just more proved that

1167
00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:03,240
Speaker 2: she It more proved to me that she was actually

1168
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:05,960
Speaker 2: a good sport about part of it, and he had

1169
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:08,160
Speaker 2: to as Kanye does take it too far. Now, this

1170
00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:10,080
Speaker 2: is one of the only times you actually see niggas

1171
00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:13,520
Speaker 2: go still defend Kanye West. Was I find amazing because

1172
00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:15,920
Speaker 2: they don't fuck with him on any level other than

1173
00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:19,439
Speaker 2: with this Taylor Swift shit and Kim Kardashian they love,

1174
00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:23,880
Speaker 2: like in this situation, love Kim Kardashian, love Kanye West.

1175
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:26,080
Speaker 3: Meanwhile making Marrick great.

1176
00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:29,800
Speaker 2: Again, cons best friends of Trump, all terrible candas owns

1177
00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:33,000
Speaker 2: all this type of shit. Mental health is no excuse

1178
00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:36,600
Speaker 2: when it comes to Kanye all that shit, But when

1179
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:39,880
Speaker 2: it comes to this, they fuck with him heavy and

1180
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:44,200
Speaker 2: it's fuck Taylor Swift over everything, right, So that's one

1181
00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:44,600
Speaker 2: of the.

1182
00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:47,680
Speaker 3: Things, And like I said, go revisit it.

1183
00:59:47,720 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 2: I actually went and did the research this weekend to

1184
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:51,560
Speaker 2: look up all the clips again to be like, wait,

1185
00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:54,040
Speaker 2: I don't remember it happening to then wy people saying

1186
00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:55,880
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, that's why. Because it didn't happen, then

1187
00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:58,640
Speaker 2: why people keep saying it did? The other thing people

1188
00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:00,560
Speaker 2: say that I find industry, They go, was she always

1189
01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:01,240
Speaker 2: playing victim?

1190
01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:02,400
Speaker 3: Right?

1191
01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:07,960
Speaker 2: And specifically she's always playing victim in her songs. I

1192
01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:09,800
Speaker 2: don't listen to her songs. So if y'all, if that's

1193
01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:11,960
Speaker 2: what she do, then cool. I don't you know who

1194
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:13,800
Speaker 2: else always playing victim and they sound Mary J.

1195
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:15,120
Speaker 3: Blige. I don't give a fuck.

1196
01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:17,240
Speaker 1: They some jams she.

1197
01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:19,080
Speaker 2: Can write, she can sing about a nigga doing her

1198
01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:22,520
Speaker 2: wrong a hundred fucking times, and I'm gonna always be

1199
01:00:22,600 --> 01:00:26,560
Speaker 2: on Mary's motherfucking side, period. So and I know, so,

1200
01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:29,840
Speaker 2: like there's certain examples that I started thinking of that,

1201
01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:31,880
Speaker 2: like when it's black people, we cool with it. Then

1202
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:34,720
Speaker 2: I'm like, so, then this isn't actually an issue. It's

1203
01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:37,440
Speaker 2: only an issue when it's her right, you know, So

1204
01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:40,120
Speaker 2: like that whole like why are you always blaming men

1205
01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:41,720
Speaker 2: for those fucked up relationship?

1206
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:43,800
Speaker 1: It's whole fucking genres and music of this.

1207
01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:46,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what a lot of people do, not to

1208
01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:48,400
Speaker 3: mention afought. Y'all said men was trash.

1209
01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:50,760
Speaker 2: We believe in the men now, right, so all the

1210
01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:53,600
Speaker 2: men and to take the swift relationships stay was the

1211
01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:54,040
Speaker 2: good ones.

1212
01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:56,440
Speaker 3: She was fucked up, there was, it was all her fault.

1213
01:00:57,120 --> 01:00:59,760
Speaker 2: So that's also kind of weird that that that I

1214
01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:03,120
Speaker 2: saw people that like tried to make that kind of

1215
01:01:03,160 --> 01:01:06,560
Speaker 2: excuse of like, well, let's cause she always being a victim,

1216
01:01:06,560 --> 01:01:07,680
Speaker 2: but let's talk about that.

1217
01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:11,560
Speaker 3: When has she being a victim? Well, obviously Kanye busting

1218
01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:15,360
Speaker 3: that busting up on that stage. She was. She didn't

1219
01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:16,280
Speaker 3: do anything wrong.

1220
01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:20,000
Speaker 2: And I think what happened was the backlash to Kanye

1221
01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:23,120
Speaker 2: was so strong and black people are so protective of

1222
01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:27,439
Speaker 2: black men specifically that they wanted to coddle him through

1223
01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:30,320
Speaker 2: that whole scenario and be like, it's not his fault somehow,

1224
01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:31,560
Speaker 2: that's how we all was.

1225
01:01:31,560 --> 01:01:32,560
Speaker 3: Feeling and shit like that.

1226
01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:36,560
Speaker 2: When later as Kanye continues to be a jackass and

1227
01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:40,320
Speaker 2: an asshole, we still want to hold onto that moment

1228
01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:44,240
Speaker 2: as righteous. Nah, he was fucked up for that, Like

1229
01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:46,760
Speaker 2: we would not have been okay with that with any

1230
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:50,960
Speaker 2: black celebrity, Like if if that would have been some

1231
01:01:51,080 --> 01:01:53,160
Speaker 2: of it, if that had been Scissa and someone did that.

1232
01:01:53,120 --> 01:01:54,720
Speaker 3: Shit, we would be like, man, what the fuck?

1233
01:01:55,640 --> 01:01:55,840
Speaker 1: You know?

1234
01:01:56,280 --> 01:01:59,360
Speaker 2: No matter what no matter how we even if the

1235
01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:03,120
Speaker 2: other person could have been Adele, and if a Silla

1236
01:02:03,120 --> 01:02:04,880
Speaker 2: would have won some shit over a dal and somebody

1237
01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:07,440
Speaker 2: bust the stage talking about Adele the greatest all time,

1238
01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:09,840
Speaker 2: We'll be like, Man, fuck that person that busts the stage,

1239
01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:13,240
Speaker 2: Fuck Adele, Fuck everybody associated with this shit, you know.

1240
01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:17,439
Speaker 2: So I feel like that's a weird thing to say.

1241
01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:19,040
Speaker 3: She wasn't a victim in that situation.

1242
01:02:19,160 --> 01:02:23,480
Speaker 2: I think she was another time when she got groped

1243
01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:26,480
Speaker 2: by that radio DJ and took his ass at court

1244
01:02:26,560 --> 01:02:28,640
Speaker 2: for one dollar, just on the principle of the shit,

1245
01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:36,000
Speaker 2: Like that's iconic status, Like that's some shit that like, uh,

1246
01:02:36,120 --> 01:02:38,280
Speaker 2: you know, like I respect the fuck out of that,

1247
01:02:38,720 --> 01:02:40,760
Speaker 2: Like that's putting your shit where your mouth feels where

1248
01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:42,880
Speaker 2: you're like no, no, no, no, no, You're not gonna disrespect me.

1249
01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:44,040
Speaker 3: And I'm not lying.

1250
01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:47,320
Speaker 2: And I'm like, if I gotta go to court to

1251
01:02:47,360 --> 01:02:50,560
Speaker 2: prove this, I'll go to fucking court. I'll make the time,

1252
01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:52,880
Speaker 2: as Taylor swill, to take your ass at court because

1253
01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:55,080
Speaker 2: get your mother fucking hands off me. Now, when are

1254
01:02:55,120 --> 01:02:58,560
Speaker 2: we ever on the side of that guy in any

1255
01:02:58,560 --> 01:03:03,280
Speaker 2: other situation, people was ready to fight, They was ready

1256
01:03:03,320 --> 01:03:08,640
Speaker 2: to fight when Omari Hardwick tried to kiss Beyonce on

1257
01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:11,520
Speaker 2: the mouth during the hug. They was ready to fight,

1258
01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:16,520
Speaker 2: but this dude growth this woman, Oh, it's no big deal, right,

1259
01:03:17,080 --> 01:03:17,600
Speaker 2: And I get it.

1260
01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:19,160
Speaker 3: Most people I'm around with you only goes as far

1261
01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:20,800
Speaker 3: as they like somebody or don't like somebody.

1262
01:03:22,640 --> 01:03:24,840
Speaker 2: But let's go through these scenarios, because, like I said,

1263
01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:26,880
Speaker 2: it's kind of it. It's not making sense to me

1264
01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:30,400
Speaker 2: to hate this woman this fucking hard And I'm gonna

1265
01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:32,880
Speaker 2: get to the things I think she's fucked up on eventually,

1266
01:03:33,120 --> 01:03:34,800
Speaker 2: but let's go through these first.

1267
01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:38,000
Speaker 3: So, yeah, you got the growing incident, right.

1268
01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:41,040
Speaker 2: She also stood up for artists when she said, I'm

1269
01:03:41,080 --> 01:03:44,160
Speaker 2: taking my music off of streaming platforms they don't pay

1270
01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:47,280
Speaker 2: us enough, taking my ship and selling it on Apple.

1271
01:03:47,720 --> 01:03:52,160
Speaker 2: You can buy my album until then, fuck y'all. And

1272
01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:53,760
Speaker 2: that helped a lot of artists out.

1273
01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:54,800
Speaker 6: You know.

1274
01:03:56,240 --> 01:03:59,880
Speaker 3: That was like that, like, uh, then, ain't awake of that.

1275
01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:02,720
Speaker 2: You have Spotify paying more, you have Title paying more,

1276
01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:06,120
Speaker 2: you have Apple streaming. Like a lot of people benefited

1277
01:04:06,200 --> 01:04:09,480
Speaker 2: from the one of the biggest artists being like mm hmmm.

1278
01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:12,040
Speaker 3: You know, which is a power move to me?

1279
01:04:12,160 --> 01:04:15,200
Speaker 2: That's you know, almost as powerful as Beyonce and Jay

1280
01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:17,520
Speaker 2: being like, let's take title and put our shit on there.

1281
01:04:17,560 --> 01:04:20,560
Speaker 2: You can't get it nowhere else. And we're going power artists,

1282
01:04:20,560 --> 01:04:23,920
Speaker 2: We're gonna pay more Like that's some real shit. But

1283
01:04:24,040 --> 01:04:26,480
Speaker 2: because it was her doing it, we're not supposed to

1284
01:04:26,520 --> 01:04:27,520
Speaker 2: respect that power move.

1285
01:04:27,600 --> 01:04:28,080
Speaker 3: I get it.

1286
01:04:29,680 --> 01:04:32,360
Speaker 2: Let's see I have more. Uh there was another thing

1287
01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:35,680
Speaker 2: too where Yeah, because they say she's not you know

1288
01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:37,960
Speaker 2: she she doesn't speak up for enough issues and all

1289
01:04:37,960 --> 01:04:38,440
Speaker 2: this stuff.

1290
01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:43,160
Speaker 3: Well, I remember when Demi Lovado.

1291
01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:48,040
Speaker 2: Was shitting on Taylor Swift online collar fake feminists and

1292
01:04:48,080 --> 01:04:48,600
Speaker 2: all this shit.

1293
01:04:49,120 --> 01:04:51,640
Speaker 3: She don't never do nothing for people, blah blah blah.

1294
01:04:51,680 --> 01:04:52,680
Speaker 3: And then it came out.

1295
01:04:52,560 --> 01:04:58,000
Speaker 2: That Taylor Swift actually gave money to Kesha, who was

1296
01:04:58,040 --> 01:05:01,040
Speaker 2: on a label under Doctor Lu who she's accused of

1297
01:05:01,080 --> 01:05:04,360
Speaker 2: sexually assaunting her and who owns like all the rights

1298
01:05:04,360 --> 01:05:06,000
Speaker 2: to her music and shit she was trying to get

1299
01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:06,640
Speaker 2: out of that deal.

1300
01:05:08,040 --> 01:05:13,040
Speaker 3: Taylor Swift gave Kesha the money to hold her down

1301
01:05:13,880 --> 01:05:18,240
Speaker 3: during that ordeal. That's not just talking. And she didn't

1302
01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:20,400
Speaker 3: put a press release out or any of this shit.

1303
01:05:20,520 --> 01:05:21,320
Speaker 3: She just did it.

1304
01:05:21,480 --> 01:05:23,800
Speaker 2: We wouldn't have known if not for Demi Levado shitting

1305
01:05:23,800 --> 01:05:25,680
Speaker 2: on her same way, we wouldn't have known that Beyonce

1306
01:05:25,760 --> 01:05:28,480
Speaker 2: and Jay gave money the Black Lives Matter until people

1307
01:05:28,560 --> 01:05:30,280
Speaker 2: just kept shitting on them and saying they don't do

1308
01:05:30,320 --> 01:05:32,600
Speaker 2: nothing for people. And I think it was Dream Hampton

1309
01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:34,160
Speaker 2: that came out. I was like, Uh, the fuck are

1310
01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:37,919
Speaker 2: y'all talking about? Yes they do right, but we asked

1311
01:05:37,920 --> 01:05:40,760
Speaker 2: people to give money altruistically and don't make it a

1312
01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:43,560
Speaker 2: big deal. This goy gonna be a pr statement. They

1313
01:05:43,640 --> 01:05:45,720
Speaker 2: do that and then we shit on them anyway, Well

1314
01:05:45,720 --> 01:05:48,439
Speaker 2: we didn't know. Fuck you right, you don't do shit

1315
01:05:48,520 --> 01:05:49,080
Speaker 2: with nobody.

1316
01:05:49,600 --> 01:05:52,200
Speaker 3: So that was a big thing that I thought I

1317
01:05:52,280 --> 01:05:56,640
Speaker 3: was ridiculous. Also, in trying to buy back her masters.

1318
01:05:56,640 --> 01:06:01,120
Speaker 2: With almost every single musical app will tell you you

1319
01:06:01,280 --> 01:06:04,760
Speaker 2: need to own your own masters, She's trying to do that,

1320
01:06:04,840 --> 01:06:08,640
Speaker 2: and like artists conspired against her to keep her from

1321
01:06:08,680 --> 01:06:12,600
Speaker 2: getting her masters back, including Kanye being one of them. Like,

1322
01:06:12,640 --> 01:06:17,200
Speaker 2: she so a victim right there, and you could be like,

1323
01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:18,720
Speaker 2: well you should have owned it from the well, not

1324
01:06:18,800 --> 01:06:21,080
Speaker 2: everybody gets to owning shit from the outset. Now everybody's

1325
01:06:21,080 --> 01:06:24,120
Speaker 2: mentally with hustle, but many people do buy their shit back.

1326
01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:26,040
Speaker 3: Yes, you know, and.

1327
01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:28,520
Speaker 2: Many people cry foul when they can't. That's not new,

1328
01:06:28,640 --> 01:06:30,760
Speaker 2: and many black people have done it. Now I know

1329
01:06:31,440 --> 01:06:34,160
Speaker 2: if the thing is just that, well, I'm just Patty

1330
01:06:34,360 --> 01:06:36,080
Speaker 2: is having the black people, so now I'm laughing at

1331
01:06:36,120 --> 01:06:39,240
Speaker 2: it having a white person. I get it, totally understand,

1332
01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:43,720
Speaker 2: but yeah, that still doesn't make you right. She's like,

1333
01:06:43,760 --> 01:06:45,760
Speaker 2: she still would be a quote unquote victim in that

1334
01:06:46,080 --> 01:06:47,120
Speaker 2: situation as well.

1335
01:06:47,880 --> 01:06:48,960
Speaker 3: So it's just kind.

1336
01:06:48,760 --> 01:06:51,320
Speaker 2: Of weird to see people like try to take that

1337
01:06:51,400 --> 01:06:53,560
Speaker 2: away as if that didn't happen. And then the last

1338
01:06:53,600 --> 01:06:56,960
Speaker 2: thing I'll add for quote unquote positives or just the

1339
01:06:57,000 --> 01:07:01,880
Speaker 2: double standards. I find it extremely weird when people try

1340
01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:08,280
Speaker 2: to say she's somehow responsible for the behavior of anyone

1341
01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:14,640
Speaker 2: that's her fan online. And this is why, because one

1342
01:07:15,360 --> 01:07:17,880
Speaker 2: they'll try to say, well, she needs to tell her

1343
01:07:17,920 --> 01:07:20,240
Speaker 2: fans to do this, this, and the other online with

1344
01:07:20,320 --> 01:07:24,520
Speaker 2: their behavior on Instagram and Twitter and shit. In many cases,

1345
01:07:24,640 --> 01:07:27,360
Speaker 2: those motherfuckers are fighting with other super fans of other

1346
01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:32,200
Speaker 2: artists in many cases, so it's not just them fighting

1347
01:07:32,240 --> 01:07:35,280
Speaker 2: against Like it's like Katy Perry said.

1348
01:07:35,040 --> 01:07:37,600
Speaker 3: Some shit and then we saying some shit.

1349
01:07:37,520 --> 01:07:39,760
Speaker 2: Back to her, and it's a whole last rivalry. It's

1350
01:07:39,800 --> 01:07:42,080
Speaker 2: not just a one sided thing. People want to hop

1351
01:07:42,080 --> 01:07:43,760
Speaker 2: in the middle of a robberry and be like, you're

1352
01:07:43,800 --> 01:07:45,440
Speaker 2: the one that's at fault, But it's like both of

1353
01:07:45,520 --> 01:07:49,120
Speaker 2: y'all niggas petty. Both of y'all was talking about each other.

1354
01:07:50,040 --> 01:07:53,000
Speaker 2: She just happened to be the one that won. Now

1355
01:07:53,080 --> 01:07:56,280
Speaker 2: they're cool or whatever, But I don't know. Reminds me

1356
01:07:56,320 --> 01:07:59,600
Speaker 2: of another rivalry that was happening, but it was on

1357
01:07:59,640 --> 01:08:02,000
Speaker 2: the black side, and that was when all the Beehive

1358
01:08:02,120 --> 01:08:05,520
Speaker 2: was fighting the fucking Navy online every day. Remember that shit,

1359
01:08:06,160 --> 01:08:09,800
Speaker 2: that's two black women. Rihanna ain't fucking Beyonce. And never,

1360
01:08:10,080 --> 01:08:13,080
Speaker 2: not once in my mother fucking life, have I ever

1361
01:08:13,120 --> 01:08:16,240
Speaker 2: heard a black person say Beyonce need to control her

1362
01:08:16,280 --> 01:08:18,400
Speaker 2: fans and Rihanna need to go get the Navy and

1363
01:08:18,400 --> 01:08:21,040
Speaker 2: get Nah. We laugh at the shit though those niggas

1364
01:08:21,040 --> 01:08:22,880
Speaker 2: are crazy. We just don't fuck with them when we

1365
01:08:22,920 --> 01:08:26,040
Speaker 2: move the fuck on. Somehow, only Taylor Swift goes supposed

1366
01:08:26,040 --> 01:08:28,919
Speaker 2: to be responsible for her fucking bagvior, her fans, Beyonce

1367
01:08:29,120 --> 01:08:31,960
Speaker 2: fans was ready to fuck. They made Oh the co

1368
01:08:32,120 --> 01:08:36,240
Speaker 2: owner's wife of the Warriors fucking break down crime and

1369
01:08:36,360 --> 01:08:40,200
Speaker 2: apologize because she leaned over Beyonce to ask Jay Z

1370
01:08:40,439 --> 01:08:45,000
Speaker 2: for his drink order. Beyonce ain't asked nobody do that shit,

1371
01:08:45,080 --> 01:08:48,240
Speaker 2: didn't want that shit. It's nothing. Look came about everything

1372
01:08:48,280 --> 01:08:52,120
Speaker 2: except what happened, and nobody said Beyonce needs to tell

1373
01:08:52,120 --> 01:08:53,439
Speaker 2: her fans to get in control.

1374
01:08:53,720 --> 01:08:57,000
Speaker 3: It's her fault, that's all they You don't have to

1375
01:08:57,040 --> 01:08:58,880
Speaker 3: do that, you know.

1376
01:08:59,160 --> 01:09:01,120
Speaker 2: So what I would like to see, And I think

1377
01:09:01,240 --> 01:09:05,360
Speaker 2: also with Taylor Swift, what happened to she's in country music,

1378
01:09:05,400 --> 01:09:06,719
Speaker 2: she shot her starting country music.

1379
01:09:06,720 --> 01:09:10,959
Speaker 3: Now she's popped. And so my guess is she didn't.

1380
01:09:10,720 --> 01:09:13,680
Speaker 2: Want to rock the boat with her country people, and

1381
01:09:13,800 --> 01:09:16,320
Speaker 2: she was scared the same way a lot of people

1382
01:09:16,320 --> 01:09:19,160
Speaker 2: were scared. But then as they get older, they started

1383
01:09:19,160 --> 01:09:20,080
Speaker 2: coming out the box.

1384
01:09:20,920 --> 01:09:25,320
Speaker 3: You know who else did that? Beyonce? Did that Beyonce?

1385
01:09:25,880 --> 01:09:27,679
Speaker 2: And this is not to say she didn't have these leanings,

1386
01:09:27,720 --> 01:09:32,000
Speaker 2: but her music got progressively more and more Beyonce, and

1387
01:09:32,120 --> 01:09:35,400
Speaker 2: she got progressively more and more comfortable being herself, as

1388
01:09:35,520 --> 01:09:37,880
Speaker 2: most of us do. These people start out as fucking

1389
01:09:37,960 --> 01:09:41,760
Speaker 2: child stars, and then we expect them to be woke

1390
01:09:41,840 --> 01:09:44,400
Speaker 2: for every single second there that they're alive all the

1391
01:09:44,439 --> 01:09:47,040
Speaker 2: way to the end, right, some people are gonna have

1392
01:09:47,120 --> 01:09:50,920
Speaker 2: an awakening slowly, and surely, you know, I don't know

1393
01:09:50,920 --> 01:09:53,519
Speaker 2: where the fucking destination is gonna be for Taylor Swift

1394
01:09:53,560 --> 01:09:55,880
Speaker 2: more than any other fucking one of these artists. But

1395
01:09:56,160 --> 01:09:59,880
Speaker 2: I find it funny that we have that scrutiny for

1396
01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:02,080
Speaker 2: her in a way that we just don't have for everybody,

1397
01:10:02,720 --> 01:10:06,280
Speaker 2: you know, So I find that interesting. As far as

1398
01:10:06,280 --> 01:10:09,120
Speaker 2: things that I think, you know, she's been fucked up on,

1399
01:10:09,360 --> 01:10:12,439
Speaker 2: I mean, I think it was fucked up that she

1400
01:10:12,640 --> 01:10:16,719
Speaker 2: like she sues the fuck out of people like artists,

1401
01:10:16,840 --> 01:10:19,360
Speaker 2: and like I think she even suit a podcast for

1402
01:10:19,640 --> 01:10:23,320
Speaker 2: like some like maybe playing parody music or something.

1403
01:10:23,120 --> 01:10:25,320
Speaker 3: Some weird shit that she like that was weird.

1404
01:10:27,360 --> 01:10:32,599
Speaker 2: You know, She's obviously kept that petty ass beef going

1405
01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:34,519
Speaker 2: with Katie Perry when she could have ended that shit.

1406
01:10:34,400 --> 01:10:37,000
Speaker 3: At any point.

1407
01:10:37,400 --> 01:10:41,559
Speaker 2: The you know, people don't like that she's I mean,

1408
01:10:41,600 --> 01:10:43,280
Speaker 2: it didn't bother me, but some people were like, you

1409
01:10:43,360 --> 01:10:45,120
Speaker 2: had people talking in your video, and that was that

1410
01:10:45,200 --> 01:10:47,800
Speaker 2: time where they was trying to make it seem like

1411
01:10:47,880 --> 01:10:50,680
Speaker 2: anyone that had black women talking in their video was

1412
01:10:50,680 --> 01:10:51,719
Speaker 2: making fun of black women.

1413
01:10:51,920 --> 01:10:54,360
Speaker 3: I didn't I saw the video. I didn't think that's

1414
01:10:54,400 --> 01:10:55,000
Speaker 3: what she was saying.

1415
01:10:55,040 --> 01:10:57,280
Speaker 2: I thought she was saying I wish I could work

1416
01:10:57,320 --> 01:10:59,840
Speaker 2: and I can't because I'm awkward, and.

1417
01:11:01,680 --> 01:11:04,240
Speaker 3: But whatever, did you take that with what you want?

1418
01:11:04,240 --> 01:11:06,080
Speaker 3: If you if you decide to be offended by that,

1419
01:11:06,080 --> 01:11:10,400
Speaker 3: that's cool. But I don't know. She for the most

1420
01:11:10,400 --> 01:11:11,719
Speaker 3: part been kind of armless.

1421
01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:14,120
Speaker 2: Maybe you could be mad she didn't speak up sooner,

1422
01:11:14,160 --> 01:11:18,400
Speaker 2: but like most people at that age aren't that fucking outspoken.

1423
01:11:18,439 --> 01:11:20,240
Speaker 2: No matter how big that platform is, it takes a

1424
01:11:20,240 --> 01:11:22,200
Speaker 2: while for you go to balls. And I know after

1425
01:11:22,200 --> 01:11:24,240
Speaker 2: she's seen them Dixie Chicks, she was up there like, mmm,

1426
01:11:25,520 --> 01:11:29,000
Speaker 2: I don't know about this. I don't know about this shit.

1427
01:11:29,400 --> 01:11:32,599
Speaker 2: Yeah uh and yeah Marlene her and Katy Perry cool

1428
01:11:32,640 --> 01:11:35,240
Speaker 2: now supposedly so yeah.

1429
01:11:35,320 --> 01:11:36,599
Speaker 3: I don't know, man, I don't.

1430
01:11:36,400 --> 01:11:39,679
Speaker 2: Know what she did that was so evil that made

1431
01:11:39,680 --> 01:11:43,519
Speaker 2: her be like, you can't fuck with Taylor's with or

1432
01:11:44,320 --> 01:11:46,200
Speaker 2: or she you know what I mean, There's nothing she

1433
01:11:46,200 --> 01:11:48,000
Speaker 2: can do right, I don't know. There's so many people

1434
01:11:48,040 --> 01:11:51,160
Speaker 2: that have done to me way worse that kind of

1435
01:11:51,200 --> 01:11:53,240
Speaker 2: deserved that disdain in a way that I don't know.

1436
01:11:53,400 --> 01:11:54,600
Speaker 3: She just didn't do it.

1437
01:11:54,640 --> 01:11:57,080
Speaker 2: And I know now there's also this one caveat I

1438
01:11:57,120 --> 01:11:59,360
Speaker 2: would throw out there before y'all write me a fucking letter,

1439
01:12:00,680 --> 01:12:04,679
Speaker 2: because I literally am not even a fan of this person.

1440
01:12:04,880 --> 01:12:06,439
Speaker 3: I just think I just find her to be an

1441
01:12:06,479 --> 01:12:07,320
Speaker 3: interesting case study.

1442
01:12:08,280 --> 01:12:13,839
Speaker 2: There is one thing that that I do find interesting

1443
01:12:13,880 --> 01:12:22,559
Speaker 2: about this is that when when when people put all

1444
01:12:22,600 --> 01:12:25,880
Speaker 2: these words to this ship and spend all this time

1445
01:12:27,439 --> 01:12:31,720
Speaker 2: like trying to find maliciousness and ship that hasn't really

1446
01:12:31,720 --> 01:12:33,880
Speaker 2: been proven yet. And she may prove it that one day,

1447
01:12:33,920 --> 01:12:36,200
Speaker 2: but as of right now, I don't find that she's

1448
01:12:36,240 --> 01:12:40,439
Speaker 2: proven this like that deserves its malicious like intent title

1449
01:12:40,479 --> 01:12:42,680
Speaker 2: that we're giving her, that people are giving her.

1450
01:12:43,360 --> 01:12:45,800
Speaker 3: You could always just say I don't like that, bitch.

1451
01:12:46,880 --> 01:12:48,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, but people don't want to do that because once

1452
01:12:48,600 --> 01:12:50,719
Speaker 1: you do that, there's no.

1453
01:12:51,400 --> 01:12:54,160
Speaker 2: Reason to what happened to that, What happened to that?

1454
01:12:54,640 --> 01:12:56,640
Speaker 2: To not liking somebody just I don't like them. I

1455
01:12:56,680 --> 01:12:59,599
Speaker 2: don't know why, I just don't like Yeah, Steven, I'm

1456
01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:01,400
Speaker 2: glad you this up. This is another point I wanted

1457
01:13:01,439 --> 01:13:03,160
Speaker 2: to get to because and this is not to personally

1458
01:13:03,160 --> 01:13:06,320
Speaker 2: insult you, Stephen, but I find what you said to

1459
01:13:06,400 --> 01:13:08,920
Speaker 2: be a critique people level.

1460
01:13:08,680 --> 01:13:09,759
Speaker 3: And I think it's.

1461
01:13:11,080 --> 01:13:13,840
Speaker 2: I don't like this critique when people say this person

1462
01:13:13,960 --> 01:13:18,840
Speaker 2: is not is not authentic, they're fake, They're inauthentic. How

1463
01:13:18,920 --> 01:13:22,200
Speaker 2: they're a celebrity you don't actually know them. They're selling

1464
01:13:22,240 --> 01:13:26,519
Speaker 2: you a product, you don't know them that. How can

1465
01:13:26,600 --> 01:13:30,840
Speaker 2: someone be fake? You know what it's like? And I

1466
01:13:30,880 --> 01:13:33,520
Speaker 2: only see that level when people don't like somebody.

1467
01:13:34,600 --> 01:13:34,680
Speaker 6: Like.

1468
01:13:34,720 --> 01:13:37,240
Speaker 2: They never say that about somebody they like. Only people

1469
01:13:37,280 --> 01:13:39,400
Speaker 2: they don't like are just fake. And it's just another

1470
01:13:39,479 --> 01:13:41,720
Speaker 2: way of saying, I don't like that, bitch, because you

1471
01:13:41,760 --> 01:13:45,360
Speaker 2: don't have a like. No one can prove falseness or

1472
01:13:45,400 --> 01:13:47,639
Speaker 2: realness what it's someone you don't know.

1473
01:13:47,880 --> 01:13:50,760
Speaker 3: We don't have personal relationships with these people. The only

1474
01:13:50,800 --> 01:13:51,240
Speaker 3: people I.

1475
01:13:51,200 --> 01:13:53,559
Speaker 2: Can tell are actually fake are people I know in

1476
01:13:53,600 --> 01:13:56,479
Speaker 2: real life. And I'm like that motherfucker right there is

1477
01:13:56,520 --> 01:13:58,920
Speaker 2: not like that, because I've been around them enough to

1478
01:13:59,000 --> 01:14:01,719
Speaker 2: know that's not them right now? You know, but only

1479
01:14:01,800 --> 01:14:03,600
Speaker 2: but like you know what people used to accuse and

1480
01:14:03,680 --> 01:14:07,160
Speaker 2: probably still do, Beyonce of being fake. Yes, remember when

1481
01:14:07,240 --> 01:14:09,439
Speaker 2: after the Super Bowl performance, we read that article on

1482
01:14:09,520 --> 01:14:13,040
Speaker 2: here from that fucking woke ass professor dude that basically

1483
01:14:13,040 --> 01:14:16,520
Speaker 2: said she was just co opting Black Lives Matter and

1484
01:14:16,680 --> 01:14:19,920
Speaker 2: making it uh and that wasn't her, the real her,

1485
01:14:20,360 --> 01:14:23,000
Speaker 2: And it's just about trying to capitalize off of racial

1486
01:14:23,040 --> 01:14:26,680
Speaker 2: animus in America. And you know, and I'm like, how

1487
01:14:26,720 --> 01:14:29,840
Speaker 2: do you get to say that for her? You know,

1488
01:14:30,479 --> 01:14:33,000
Speaker 2: Beyonce's also sued people for taking pictures of her and

1489
01:14:33,040 --> 01:14:35,840
Speaker 2: putting them out but she don't look flattering, you know,

1490
01:14:36,280 --> 01:14:38,240
Speaker 2: made them take it down. Somebody put a room out

1491
01:14:38,240 --> 01:14:40,360
Speaker 2: there about her pregnancy. She fucking sued the pants off

1492
01:14:40,360 --> 01:14:42,679
Speaker 2: of that person. So I get you have to protect

1493
01:14:42,720 --> 01:14:44,720
Speaker 2: your image. It's not just for black women, it's for

1494
01:14:44,760 --> 01:14:47,160
Speaker 2: everybody that's on that level. You feel like somebody lying

1495
01:14:47,200 --> 01:14:50,639
Speaker 2: about you. CARDI had to do it like somebody lying

1496
01:14:50,720 --> 01:14:52,960
Speaker 2: on me. I might not be nice about this shit,

1497
01:14:53,040 --> 01:14:56,720
Speaker 2: but more importantly, what the fuck is real versus fake?

1498
01:14:56,760 --> 01:14:58,880
Speaker 3: When I'm selling your product?

1499
01:14:59,160 --> 01:15:01,280
Speaker 2: You know, like you can listen to this podcast and

1500
01:15:01,280 --> 01:15:03,000
Speaker 2: feel like you know me and Karen, but you don't

1501
01:15:03,040 --> 01:15:05,120
Speaker 2: really know us like that, Like you don't know us

1502
01:15:05,280 --> 01:15:07,519
Speaker 2: because you don't you're not in our lives like that.

1503
01:15:08,600 --> 01:15:08,840
Speaker 3: You know.

1504
01:15:08,960 --> 01:15:11,880
Speaker 2: We try to be as authentic as possible, but this

1505
01:15:11,960 --> 01:15:15,439
Speaker 2: is still via the medium of a product.

1506
01:15:15,640 --> 01:15:17,320
Speaker 3: You know, if we sit at.

1507
01:15:17,200 --> 01:15:19,559
Speaker 2: The table with us and we're not on we're just

1508
01:15:19,600 --> 01:15:22,799
Speaker 2: hanging out. It might not be as entertaining, but that's us.

1509
01:15:23,520 --> 01:15:23,720
Speaker 3: You know.

1510
01:15:23,760 --> 01:15:27,160
Speaker 2: You see us in a restaurant reading our fucking tablets, think,

1511
01:15:27,280 --> 01:15:29,479
Speaker 2: looking like we're not talking to each other, that's us too.

1512
01:15:30,400 --> 01:15:30,600
Speaker 1: You know.

1513
01:15:31,120 --> 01:15:32,759
Speaker 3: There's a lot of shit that we say when.

1514
01:15:32,560 --> 01:15:34,960
Speaker 2: It comes to the to the show that's like, yeah,

1515
01:15:34,960 --> 01:15:37,639
Speaker 2: that's not for the show, that's just for us, right,

1516
01:15:37,760 --> 01:15:40,080
Speaker 2: Like we have and talk about certain things like yeah,

1517
01:15:40,080 --> 01:15:42,680
Speaker 2: that has nothing to do with y'all. Right, So I

1518
01:15:42,720 --> 01:15:46,040
Speaker 2: think there's that element of it that doesn't get discussed enough,

1519
01:15:46,040 --> 01:15:50,400
Speaker 2: which is that you can call anyone fake, but what's real?

1520
01:15:50,439 --> 01:15:51,360
Speaker 3: Then? Who's real?

1521
01:15:51,920 --> 01:15:53,679
Speaker 2: Oh, let me guess the people you like are real?

1522
01:15:54,439 --> 01:15:59,360
Speaker 2: Lizo's real, making the Stallions real? Right, all the people

1523
01:15:59,400 --> 01:16:01,599
Speaker 2: we like are Miley? Sorry's fake?

1524
01:16:03,040 --> 01:16:03,200
Speaker 6: Right?

1525
01:16:03,360 --> 01:16:03,519
Speaker 3: Like?

1526
01:16:04,600 --> 01:16:06,840
Speaker 2: So it's just another way of saying you don't like somebody,

1527
01:16:07,240 --> 01:16:10,479
Speaker 2: you know. I mean, do I think Lizo's playing the

1528
01:16:10,479 --> 01:16:13,120
Speaker 2: flute everywhere and Megan Stallion's constantly in the twenty four

1529
01:16:13,160 --> 01:16:13,960
Speaker 2: to seven hour work.

1530
01:16:14,400 --> 01:16:14,960
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1531
01:16:15,160 --> 01:16:18,679
Speaker 2: I would assume not, but I mean when they're selling

1532
01:16:18,680 --> 01:16:20,640
Speaker 2: me a product, that's what they do. They gonna be

1533
01:16:20,680 --> 01:16:23,320
Speaker 2: on Instagram parking it up because that's the fuck you

1534
01:16:23,479 --> 01:16:28,160
Speaker 2: famous for. I don't know them. You know, I might

1535
01:16:28,200 --> 01:16:31,280
Speaker 2: meet them and they be totally different, you know. I mean,

1536
01:16:31,320 --> 01:16:34,160
Speaker 2: you hope not, but it might be different than the

1537
01:16:34,600 --> 01:16:37,400
Speaker 2: what I have in my mind for that person, you know.

1538
01:16:37,880 --> 01:16:38,880
Speaker 3: So I just I don't know.

1539
01:16:38,960 --> 01:16:41,000
Speaker 2: It was just something that's been on my heart lately,

1540
01:16:41,120 --> 01:16:44,639
Speaker 2: because she's just a case study of a bigger problem.

1541
01:16:44,680 --> 01:16:46,479
Speaker 2: Like people are gonna get stuck on it being Taylor

1542
01:16:46,479 --> 01:16:50,960
Speaker 2: Swift because that's the fucking point. Literally, people become fucking

1543
01:16:50,960 --> 01:16:51,920
Speaker 2: idiots about this shit.

1544
01:16:52,280 --> 01:16:55,080
Speaker 1: Yes, and then you know, I think for a lot

1545
01:16:55,120 --> 01:16:59,479
Speaker 1: of people, because you know a lot of white racist people,

1546
01:16:59,479 --> 01:17:02,920
Speaker 1: basically to carr and bashed people upside the head, it's like,

1547
01:17:03,040 --> 01:17:04,639
Speaker 1: well the fuck you grab it then, bitch.

1548
01:17:04,760 --> 01:17:07,160
Speaker 2: It's how used to carry in the hotels all over again, right,

1549
01:17:07,640 --> 01:17:09,960
Speaker 2: Like i Usha Curry didn't really say nothing to be

1550
01:17:10,120 --> 01:17:12,920
Speaker 2: down with the hotels, but enough of them niggas started

1551
01:17:12,920 --> 01:17:13,840
Speaker 2: holding her up as a.

1552
01:17:13,760 --> 01:17:15,200
Speaker 3: Perfect icon of black woman.

1553
01:17:15,320 --> 01:17:17,720
Speaker 2: Is that it starts turning to other people against her

1554
01:17:17,720 --> 01:17:18,960
Speaker 2: that really don't give a fuck about it.

1555
01:17:18,960 --> 01:17:20,320
Speaker 3: I should cry, But by the end of the day,

1556
01:17:20,360 --> 01:17:21,599
Speaker 3: it's like, fuck that bit sho.

1557
01:17:21,920 --> 01:17:24,920
Speaker 2: And it's like, well, how did that happen? Well enough,

1558
01:17:24,960 --> 01:17:27,559
Speaker 2: motherfuckers was throwing her in my face. And maybe that's

1559
01:17:27,560 --> 01:17:30,320
Speaker 2: what it is a Taylor Swift, you know, because the

1560
01:17:30,400 --> 01:17:33,160
Speaker 2: thing for me that I think really made her seem

1561
01:17:33,240 --> 01:17:38,320
Speaker 2: to be like the the topic that I would not

1562
01:17:38,360 --> 01:17:42,120
Speaker 2: want to broach was really when everything happened after Kanye

1563
01:17:42,800 --> 01:17:45,160
Speaker 2: and white people gathered around her in a way that

1564
01:17:45,320 --> 01:17:51,800
Speaker 2: was so like infantalizing of her and so like demonizing

1565
01:17:52,160 --> 01:17:56,840
Speaker 2: of not just Kanye, but like people that felt like,

1566
01:17:57,439 --> 01:18:00,720
Speaker 2: you know, Beyonce, the should have won award and all

1567
01:18:00,760 --> 01:18:04,080
Speaker 2: this shit, you know, And I'm like, well, I can agree, Beyonce.

1568
01:18:04,120 --> 01:18:06,439
Speaker 2: They had a better video. Single Letter Ladies is one

1569
01:18:06,479 --> 01:18:07,880
Speaker 2: of the best videos of all time.

1570
01:18:08,920 --> 01:18:11,000
Speaker 3: I can't get.

1571
01:18:10,920 --> 01:18:14,040
Speaker 2: Down with admonishing this woman for her work when she

1572
01:18:14,040 --> 01:18:15,559
Speaker 2: ain't have nothing to do with that, she ain't picked

1573
01:18:15,560 --> 01:18:18,559
Speaker 2: the winner. That's like, she just won an award, that's it,

1574
01:18:19,400 --> 01:18:21,720
Speaker 2: you know. I'm in Winnadell One. People got mad at

1575
01:18:21,760 --> 01:18:24,000
Speaker 2: that when Adelle was like, I wish I could like

1576
01:18:24,120 --> 01:18:26,160
Speaker 2: break this and give you this trophy, and people's mad

1577
01:18:26,160 --> 01:18:28,559
Speaker 2: at that shit. I'm like, what do you want them

1578
01:18:28,560 --> 01:18:30,280
Speaker 2: to say, they see the same thing we do. This

1579
01:18:30,439 --> 01:18:32,840
Speaker 2: motherfucker's much better and the queen of this shit, and

1580
01:18:32,880 --> 01:18:34,599
Speaker 2: they keep giving us awards because we white.

1581
01:18:34,640 --> 01:18:36,559
Speaker 3: I don't know what to tell you, you know.

1582
01:18:36,800 --> 01:18:39,920
Speaker 2: So it's just kind of like, I don't know, it's

1583
01:18:39,960 --> 01:18:42,240
Speaker 2: just interesting as a case study of her.

1584
01:18:42,479 --> 01:18:43,400
Speaker 3: But I don't know.

1585
01:18:43,439 --> 01:18:46,559
Speaker 2: I'm just I'll be against, you know, not even trying

1586
01:18:46,560 --> 01:18:49,240
Speaker 2: to be contrariing on this. I'm just being honest. I'm

1587
01:18:49,320 --> 01:18:50,960
Speaker 2: just gonna have to be the one that's left off

1588
01:18:50,960 --> 01:18:53,920
Speaker 2: of the fucking you know, the cool kids club of

1589
01:18:53,960 --> 01:18:56,160
Speaker 2: hating Taylor Swift because I just don't fucking get it.

1590
01:18:56,160 --> 01:18:59,280
Speaker 3: It's too it's too far, it's too much. You know.

1591
01:18:59,479 --> 01:19:01,760
Speaker 2: I get this, she's a white woman and problematic and

1592
01:19:01,800 --> 01:19:04,920
Speaker 2: all the ways white women are prone to be problematic,

1593
01:19:05,360 --> 01:19:08,320
Speaker 2: even good ones and all this type of shit, But goddamn,

1594
01:19:08,320 --> 01:19:10,519
Speaker 2: it's like she do something good and people be mad,

1595
01:19:10,840 --> 01:19:11,519
Speaker 2: like what.

1596
01:19:11,640 --> 01:19:14,519
Speaker 1: They'd be, like, Taylor Swift safe the puppet. Fuck that bitch.

1597
01:19:14,520 --> 01:19:17,280
Speaker 1: You're like, well, god, damn, yeah, not that I don't

1598
01:19:17,280 --> 01:19:18,880
Speaker 1: got people like that, but you know.

1599
01:19:19,280 --> 01:19:20,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.

1600
01:19:20,400 --> 01:19:22,519
Speaker 2: Shit, celebrity shit is just so weird for me because

1601
01:19:22,560 --> 01:19:25,439
Speaker 2: I don't really subscribe to any of them. They like,

1602
01:19:25,920 --> 01:19:28,599
Speaker 2: take the entertainment, leave the other shit. If they do

1603
01:19:28,680 --> 01:19:31,320
Speaker 2: something good, cool, they do something.

1604
01:19:31,040 --> 01:19:33,840
Speaker 3: Bad that's fucked up, but the whole like I have

1605
01:19:33,960 --> 01:19:36,360
Speaker 3: to defend everything these people do, or I have to

1606
01:19:36,400 --> 01:19:37,960
Speaker 3: attack everything this person does.

1607
01:19:38,479 --> 01:19:40,680
Speaker 2: I mean, maybe it's fun for people, but I don't know.

1608
01:19:40,760 --> 01:19:42,240
Speaker 2: For me, it's just seeming so corny.

1609
01:19:42,360 --> 01:19:47,360
Speaker 6: Like yeah, and over over the years, I can truly

1610
01:19:47,439 --> 01:19:49,679
Speaker 6: say I've kind of I've kind of come I don't

1611
01:19:49,680 --> 01:19:51,880
Speaker 6: know if it's being older turning forty, I've kind of

1612
01:19:51,920 --> 01:19:55,200
Speaker 6: calmed down from that and come to the realization that

1613
01:19:55,200 --> 01:19:55,920
Speaker 6: shit ain't that.

1614
01:19:55,840 --> 01:20:00,920
Speaker 1: Important, Like it literally is not that important. And I

1615
01:20:01,000 --> 01:20:04,360
Speaker 1: think that, and I will continue to say this some people.

1616
01:20:04,439 --> 01:20:07,960
Speaker 1: The social part of social media for some people is arguing.

1617
01:20:08,200 --> 01:20:12,759
Speaker 1: That's the social part. So I have to turn everything

1618
01:20:12,800 --> 01:20:15,439
Speaker 1: into an argument and everything into a debate. And if

1619
01:20:15,439 --> 01:20:17,719
Speaker 1: I just flat out come out and sound like that bitch,

1620
01:20:17,800 --> 01:20:19,880
Speaker 1: that's it. That's the end of the conversation. That's the

1621
01:20:19,960 --> 01:20:22,280
Speaker 1: end of the debate. So I gotta come up with

1622
01:20:22,439 --> 01:20:26,759
Speaker 1: all these other things that constantly keep the conversation going,

1623
01:20:27,439 --> 01:20:30,559
Speaker 1: you know, versus just flat to say that, Because once

1624
01:20:30,600 --> 01:20:33,360
Speaker 1: you say that you know, most people, any reasonable person

1625
01:20:33,360 --> 01:20:35,120
Speaker 1: will ain't gonna take your season. They're gonna tap out

1626
01:20:35,160 --> 01:20:35,799
Speaker 1: of the conversation.

1627
01:20:36,120 --> 01:20:36,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess.

1628
01:20:36,960 --> 01:20:40,400
Speaker 2: Uh, I don't know, man, It's just certain things I'm

1629
01:20:40,439 --> 01:20:42,800
Speaker 2: starting to look at and be looking at people, you know,

1630
01:20:42,920 --> 01:20:45,479
Speaker 2: like you look at people and like you're not.

1631
01:20:45,640 --> 01:20:47,880
Speaker 3: Really my vibe, you know.

1632
01:20:48,320 --> 01:20:51,320
Speaker 2: And that's one of the things that reminds me is like,

1633
01:20:51,320 --> 01:20:54,320
Speaker 2: like there's people that really do say and do a

1634
01:20:54,360 --> 01:20:57,400
Speaker 2: lot of fucked up shit, and I get it, you know.

1635
01:20:57,640 --> 01:21:00,000
Speaker 2: But then there's like this social tide on certain things

1636
01:21:00,120 --> 01:21:03,360
Speaker 2: where I just had to be the eye man out

1637
01:21:03,400 --> 01:21:06,120
Speaker 2: because it would be untrue to who I am to be, Like,

1638
01:21:06,680 --> 01:21:08,479
Speaker 2: let me just ride along because it's the fun thing

1639
01:21:08,520 --> 01:21:10,160
Speaker 2: to do, right, let me just hop on this way

1640
01:21:10,200 --> 01:21:12,320
Speaker 2: because y'all think it's and I'm and keep.

1641
01:21:12,200 --> 01:21:14,400
Speaker 3: In mind, I'm down with the jokes. I'm always down

1642
01:21:14,439 --> 01:21:14,880
Speaker 3: to clown.

1643
01:21:15,280 --> 01:21:18,240
Speaker 2: But it's like some of this ship is the vich

1644
01:21:18,320 --> 01:21:21,000
Speaker 2: y'all goes to Farrence, like y'all really mad about this shit.

1645
01:21:21,040 --> 01:21:22,320
Speaker 3: It's not really important.

1646
01:21:22,360 --> 01:21:23,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was here for the jokes.

1647
01:21:23,560 --> 01:21:24,519
Speaker 3: Nothing actually happened.

1648
01:21:24,560 --> 01:21:27,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, y'all serious, and I'll tap out. I

1649
01:21:27,120 --> 01:21:28,080
Speaker 1: was here for the funny games.

1650
01:21:28,200 --> 01:21:31,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know, and there's and and I just

1651
01:21:31,160 --> 01:21:33,960
Speaker 2: want to mark this up too before somebody, because I

1652
01:21:34,000 --> 01:21:36,280
Speaker 2: know these people that hate Taylor Swift are very irrational

1653
01:21:36,360 --> 01:21:39,000
Speaker 2: and they'll write in or they'll start saying, shit, that's

1654
01:21:39,040 --> 01:21:41,760
Speaker 2: not true about me. If you motherfucking get ready to

1655
01:21:41,800 --> 01:21:45,799
Speaker 2: ride up here about some Oh you're defending Taylor Swift,

1656
01:21:46,120 --> 01:21:50,559
Speaker 2: but black women, you know, that's a goddamn fucking line.

1657
01:21:51,880 --> 01:21:55,240
Speaker 2: Like I had the same conversation about beyond a million times.

1658
01:21:56,439 --> 01:21:57,360
Speaker 2: We're not doing that.

1659
01:21:58,360 --> 01:21:58,599
Speaker 3: You know.

1660
01:21:58,800 --> 01:22:00,800
Speaker 2: This is the way I see it, man, It's to me,

1661
01:22:00,880 --> 01:22:02,240
Speaker 2: it's the same with a lot of people.

1662
01:22:02,280 --> 01:22:05,040
Speaker 3: It's just there's people that have fucked.

1663
01:22:04,760 --> 01:22:07,519
Speaker 2: Up and I get why enough momentum is going against them.

1664
01:22:07,560 --> 01:22:09,439
Speaker 2: And then there's people where I'm like, y'all just don't

1665
01:22:09,479 --> 01:22:12,120
Speaker 2: like that motherfucker, Like they're not as fucked up as

1666
01:22:12,160 --> 01:22:15,439
Speaker 2: y'all saying. You know, like there's people who are way

1667
01:22:15,479 --> 01:22:17,759
Speaker 2: more fucked up than them to get a lot of slack,

1668
01:22:18,680 --> 01:22:21,160
Speaker 2: and this person is actually trying to do better, you know,

1669
01:22:21,360 --> 01:22:23,200
Speaker 2: so we'll see where she goes. I mean, sure a

1670
01:22:23,200 --> 01:22:25,160
Speaker 2: white woman expect her to fuck up again and us

1671
01:22:25,200 --> 01:22:27,800
Speaker 2: to be talking about it. Again at some point, but

1672
01:22:28,439 --> 01:22:30,400
Speaker 2: I don't know, man, for all this shit to the

1673
01:22:30,400 --> 01:22:32,640
Speaker 2: point where motherfuckers is on Kim and Kanye side, it's

1674
01:22:32,640 --> 01:22:35,320
Speaker 2: and I was like, y'all, y'all have really gotten on

1675
01:22:35,360 --> 01:22:38,360
Speaker 2: some other shit, labi right, you know? And I started

1676
01:22:38,400 --> 01:22:41,160
Speaker 2: asking people specifically, like what is she doing that's so

1677
01:22:41,280 --> 01:22:41,760
Speaker 2: fucked up?

1678
01:22:41,800 --> 01:22:44,439
Speaker 3: And it wasn't a lot of answers, you know.

1679
01:22:44,400 --> 01:22:46,639
Speaker 2: Because that's that's the thing, like I'm and I didn't

1680
01:22:46,640 --> 01:22:49,640
Speaker 2: do it like gotcha bitch, y'all. I asked them sincerely,

1681
01:22:49,680 --> 01:22:52,519
Speaker 2: but like you wrote a paragraph about what what she

1682
01:22:52,760 --> 01:22:54,240
Speaker 2: is that's so fucked up about her?

1683
01:22:54,720 --> 01:22:57,400
Speaker 3: What did she do? Because I just think you should

1684
01:22:57,439 --> 01:23:00,720
Speaker 3: admit you're wrong wrong? And what what was she wrong about?

1685
01:23:01,479 --> 01:23:02,840
Speaker 3: Like this nigga did lie?

1686
01:23:03,160 --> 01:23:05,160
Speaker 2: He did leave out, I'm gonna call you a bitch

1687
01:23:05,160 --> 01:23:08,200
Speaker 2: and have me in laying in a bed fucking you and.

1688
01:23:08,160 --> 01:23:10,599
Speaker 3: Shit in my video. I don't know. I might feel

1689
01:23:10,600 --> 01:23:15,280
Speaker 3: differently about that, you know, like like what exactly.

1690
01:23:14,960 --> 01:23:17,639
Speaker 2: Am I getting caught in? As you know, I don't

1691
01:23:17,680 --> 01:23:20,720
Speaker 2: like Katy Perry, she don't like me. It might not

1692
01:23:20,800 --> 01:23:22,519
Speaker 2: be all I have to admit I was wrong for

1693
01:23:22,560 --> 01:23:25,800
Speaker 2: that moment. We don't like each other and now we're cool.

1694
01:23:25,880 --> 01:23:28,960
Speaker 2: We figured we squashed it somehow. You know, it might

1695
01:23:29,040 --> 01:23:31,840
Speaker 2: not be so cutting Drys show me where she had

1696
01:23:31,840 --> 01:23:34,920
Speaker 2: to be wrong, and we all agree it's not gonna happen.

1697
01:23:35,720 --> 01:23:39,840
Speaker 2: So all right, man, anyway, what else is going on?

1698
01:23:39,960 --> 01:23:42,040
Speaker 3: Should I get it? You know what?

1699
01:23:42,120 --> 01:23:46,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's do some fucking with black people. Uh, I'm

1700
01:23:47,000 --> 01:23:49,280
Speaker 2: sure there's certain black people that feel fuck with.

1701
01:23:49,320 --> 01:23:53,080
Speaker 3: By that Taylor Swift segment. They gave us a hundred

1702
01:24:00,080 --> 01:24:03,240
Speaker 3: suck with those black people. With just fucking with those blacks.

1703
01:24:03,479 --> 01:24:07,040
Speaker 3: We're just fucking with fucking with black people.

1704
01:24:07,479 --> 01:24:09,439
Speaker 2: That's right, guys, trying to play the game we all

1705
01:24:09,479 --> 01:24:11,200
Speaker 2: hate to play. It's fucking with black people.

1706
01:24:11,360 --> 01:24:12,800
Speaker 3: The game. We go all around the golow find it,

1707
01:24:13,439 --> 01:24:15,080
Speaker 3: feel fuck with and Will Simon points Scorts was still

1708
01:24:15,080 --> 01:24:16,320
Speaker 3: two hundred and verse twenty five.

1709
01:24:16,520 --> 01:24:21,599
Speaker 2: Today's contestants. Everybody had, Hey, let's see who is fucking

1710
01:24:21,640 --> 01:24:28,720
Speaker 2: with us today? Speaking of fucking up white women that

1711
01:24:28,800 --> 01:24:33,760
Speaker 2: we don't like, White comedian says she lost movie roll

1712
01:24:33,840 --> 01:24:35,719
Speaker 2: over old black face comedy sketch.

1713
01:24:37,880 --> 01:24:39,920
Speaker 3: I figure I know exactly who you're talking about.

1714
01:24:40,280 --> 01:24:44,320
Speaker 2: Article funny Girl Sarah Silverman just confessed that she got

1715
01:24:44,400 --> 01:24:46,800
Speaker 2: blowbacks from wearing black face for a comedy sketch from

1716
01:24:46,800 --> 01:24:49,000
Speaker 2: her now canceled show, and it cost her a role

1717
01:24:49,040 --> 01:24:53,040
Speaker 2: in the upcoming film, Silverman revealed on the Bill Simmons podcast.

1718
01:24:53,120 --> 01:24:56,000
Speaker 2: Back in two thousand and seven, on the Sarah Silverman program,

1719
01:24:56,479 --> 01:24:58,880
Speaker 2: she wrote, she wore black face and regrets it, and

1720
01:24:58,960 --> 01:25:01,120
Speaker 2: she's now filling the back over that decision.

1721
01:25:02,240 --> 01:25:04,960
Speaker 3: I recently was going to do a movie, a sweet part.

1722
01:25:05,240 --> 01:25:07,760
Speaker 3: Then at eleven pm the movie.

1723
01:25:08,120 --> 01:25:10,479
Speaker 2: The night before, they fired me because they saw a

1724
01:25:10,560 --> 01:25:13,439
Speaker 2: picture of me in blackface from that episode. I didn't

1725
01:25:13,479 --> 01:25:16,040
Speaker 2: fight it, she admitted on the Simmis podcast. According to

1726
01:25:16,080 --> 01:25:18,599
Speaker 2: The Hollywood Reporter, now wait, why is this man?

1727
01:25:19,560 --> 01:25:20,320
Speaker 3: Oh I see?

1728
01:25:20,400 --> 01:25:22,960
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, okay, she recently admitted this. She did it

1729
01:25:23,040 --> 01:25:23,960
Speaker 2: back in two thousand and seven.

1730
01:25:24,000 --> 01:25:25,280
Speaker 3: Okay, cool, But.

1731
01:25:25,360 --> 01:25:28,280
Speaker 2: Silima said the reality of that choice stung, while using

1732
01:25:28,360 --> 01:25:30,880
Speaker 2: the moment to shade the person who replaced her. They

1733
01:25:31,000 --> 01:25:33,360
Speaker 2: hired someone else who was wonderful, but who has never

1734
01:25:33,400 --> 01:25:34,240
Speaker 2: stuck their neck out.

1735
01:25:34,360 --> 01:25:35,320
Speaker 3: It was so disheartening.

1736
01:25:35,680 --> 01:25:38,519
Speaker 2: It just made me real, real sad because I really

1737
01:25:38,800 --> 01:25:42,320
Speaker 2: kind of devoted my life to making it right. Silverman

1738
01:25:42,400 --> 01:25:45,400
Speaker 2: criticized the corrective nature comedy culture now sat calling it

1739
01:25:45,520 --> 01:25:48,640
Speaker 2: a dangerous place for comedians who have aired in the

1740
01:25:48,760 --> 01:25:50,360
Speaker 2: past with questionable material.

1741
01:25:51,280 --> 01:25:52,600
Speaker 3: I mean, you're saying it on.

1742
01:25:52,840 --> 01:25:55,719
Speaker 2: The Boston Sports Guys show, so I mean I'm assuming

1743
01:25:55,760 --> 01:25:59,080
Speaker 2: and it's a pretty sympathetic audience. I think it's really scary,

1744
01:25:59,120 --> 01:26:01,040
Speaker 2: and it's a very odd thing that it's invaded the

1745
01:26:01,120 --> 01:26:04,120
Speaker 2: left primarily and the right will mimic it, Silverman said.

1746
01:26:04,720 --> 01:26:06,800
Speaker 2: She added, it's like if you're not on board, if

1747
01:26:06,840 --> 01:26:08,720
Speaker 2: you say the wrong thing, if you had a tweet once,

1748
01:26:08,800 --> 01:26:11,160
Speaker 2: everyone is like throwing the firstte It's so odd.

1749
01:26:11,200 --> 01:26:12,440
Speaker 3: It's a perversion.

1750
01:26:12,520 --> 01:26:14,519
Speaker 2: It's really Look how righteous I am, and now I'm

1751
01:26:14,520 --> 01:26:17,880
Speaker 2: gonna oppress refresh all day loans to see how many

1752
01:26:18,120 --> 01:26:21,679
Speaker 2: likes I get for in my righteousness. It's okay to go, wow,

1753
01:26:21,840 --> 01:26:23,920
Speaker 2: look at this back then that was so fucked up

1754
01:26:24,360 --> 01:26:26,120
Speaker 2: looking at it in the light of today, at what

1755
01:26:26,280 --> 01:26:28,439
Speaker 2: we know. But to hold that person accountable as it

1756
01:26:29,080 --> 01:26:31,680
Speaker 2: accountable if they've changed with the times, Like for me,

1757
01:26:31,800 --> 01:26:34,519
Speaker 2: I held myself accountable. I can't erase that I did that,

1758
01:26:35,160 --> 01:26:37,240
Speaker 2: but I can only be changed forever and do what

1759
01:26:37,320 --> 01:26:38,680
Speaker 2: I can to make it right for the rest of

1760
01:26:38,720 --> 01:26:39,040
Speaker 2: my life.

1761
01:26:39,080 --> 01:26:42,439
Speaker 3: She said. She said a comedian shouldn't be defined by

1762
01:26:42,479 --> 01:26:43,320
Speaker 3: their joke. So so the past.

1763
01:26:43,360 --> 01:26:45,320
Speaker 2: If I look back at my old self and dun't crams,

1764
01:26:45,320 --> 01:26:47,920
Speaker 2: there's something wrong because if you're putting yourself out there.

1765
01:26:47,960 --> 01:26:59,519
Speaker 3: Is not going to be timeless. Nah, this is why

1766
01:26:59,560 --> 01:27:02,240
Speaker 3: I don't like it. I do, and I agree with

1767
01:27:02,640 --> 01:27:04,680
Speaker 3: a lot of what she said. I really do. I

1768
01:27:04,800 --> 01:27:06,880
Speaker 3: really do. This is not to go back on everything

1769
01:27:06,920 --> 01:27:08,000
Speaker 3: I'm saying. I do agree.

1770
01:27:08,080 --> 01:27:10,960
Speaker 2: People fuck up. It's held against you. We are now

1771
01:27:11,040 --> 01:27:14,719
Speaker 2: in the climate of you fucked up. It's forever cool.

1772
01:27:16,240 --> 01:27:21,720
Speaker 2: But at the same time, if one of the consequences

1773
01:27:21,760 --> 01:27:23,479
Speaker 2: of you doing that ship is that somebody don't want

1774
01:27:23,479 --> 01:27:26,479
Speaker 2: to work with you, now, it's kind of just that's

1775
01:27:26,560 --> 01:27:30,200
Speaker 2: kind of just what it is. Nobody owes you that,

1776
01:27:31,560 --> 01:27:33,760
Speaker 2: they don't have to hire you, they don't have to

1777
01:27:33,880 --> 01:27:37,240
Speaker 2: keep you on. That's the sad part about doing some

1778
01:27:37,400 --> 01:27:41,160
Speaker 2: fucked up shit like that, And it absolutely could happen

1779
01:27:41,400 --> 01:27:45,880
Speaker 2: to anyone that has made a mistake now that we

1780
01:27:46,040 --> 01:27:50,200
Speaker 2: have all this shit. But you know, there's like a

1781
01:27:50,320 --> 01:27:52,840
Speaker 2: dichotomy to this. There's a timeline of this, Like you

1782
01:27:53,000 --> 01:27:56,160
Speaker 2: do that shit, you get called out, you double down,

1783
01:27:56,720 --> 01:27:58,240
Speaker 2: then you just ignore it for a while and then

1784
01:27:58,280 --> 01:27:59,760
Speaker 2: you come around on it and go, all right, I

1785
01:27:59,840 --> 01:28:00,439
Speaker 2: was wrong for that.

1786
01:28:00,479 --> 01:28:02,120
Speaker 3: I regret it. Shouldn't have did it.

1787
01:28:03,040 --> 01:28:06,959
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, other people have to go through their process,

1788
01:28:07,120 --> 01:28:10,439
Speaker 2: and they may be like, for either the publicity of it,

1789
01:28:11,080 --> 01:28:12,720
Speaker 2: we don't want you on the project, and then we

1790
01:28:12,760 --> 01:28:15,160
Speaker 2: got to explain this shit you did, we don't want

1791
01:28:15,160 --> 01:28:17,639
Speaker 2: to deal with it, yeah, or and then also you're

1792
01:28:17,680 --> 01:28:19,280
Speaker 2: talking about a tone in your eyes.

1793
01:28:19,840 --> 01:28:22,680
Speaker 3: It doesn't mean you're tone to everybody else's eyes. And

1794
01:28:22,800 --> 01:28:23,800
Speaker 3: this is what I was saying.

1795
01:28:23,920 --> 01:28:27,679
Speaker 2: We talked about this all last week. But forgiveness is selfish.

1796
01:28:27,840 --> 01:28:31,000
Speaker 2: Sometimes you gotta forgive yourself. And I don't mean that

1797
01:28:31,040 --> 01:28:33,880
Speaker 2: in the selfish like fuck everybody else, I forgive myself,

1798
01:28:33,920 --> 01:28:37,479
Speaker 2: but like, if you truly forgive yourself, then you can

1799
01:28:37,600 --> 01:28:40,320
Speaker 2: move on knowing that, Yeah, there's some things I lost

1800
01:28:40,439 --> 01:28:44,760
Speaker 2: from that that I will continue to lose, but that's

1801
01:28:44,880 --> 01:28:47,800
Speaker 2: just that's just part of I fucked up. That's just

1802
01:28:48,280 --> 01:28:50,519
Speaker 2: a part of this sin that I committed kind of

1803
01:28:51,080 --> 01:28:52,800
Speaker 2: and I think that's a more healthy way to look

1804
01:28:52,800 --> 01:28:55,559
Speaker 2: at it than to be like, you know, look what's.

1805
01:28:55,360 --> 01:28:57,519
Speaker 3: Happening in the comedy right now. Man, you can't even

1806
01:28:57,560 --> 01:29:00,760
Speaker 3: do nothing if you ever did black face, Like yeah, y'all,

1807
01:29:00,840 --> 01:29:04,479
Speaker 3: y'all like that, all right? That all comedy scene was

1808
01:29:05,280 --> 01:29:09,720
Speaker 3: a lot of white people ironically doing black face and

1809
01:29:09,760 --> 01:29:15,360
Speaker 3: saying nigger jokes, and surprise, once black people became aware

1810
01:29:15,400 --> 01:29:18,000
Speaker 3: of it and aware of you, we don't like that shit.

1811
01:29:19,640 --> 01:29:21,320
Speaker 3: You don't get to just tell us it's funny because

1812
01:29:21,320 --> 01:29:22,840
Speaker 3: it made a room full of white people laugh.

1813
01:29:23,800 --> 01:29:27,200
Speaker 2: That's really what it comes down to, you know, So

1814
01:29:27,520 --> 01:29:31,000
Speaker 2: so I you know that's really the basis of all

1815
01:29:31,080 --> 01:29:32,680
Speaker 2: the sketch and all that shit was like what if

1816
01:29:32,720 --> 01:29:35,200
Speaker 2: I ironic? We all know it's basically the Louis c

1817
01:29:35,360 --> 01:29:38,360
Speaker 2: K stuff where you're like, white people love Louis c. K.

1818
01:29:38,640 --> 01:29:40,880
Speaker 2: And he's the only one that makes jokes about the

1819
01:29:41,120 --> 01:29:43,360
Speaker 2: N word that you know that I think is so

1820
01:29:43,479 --> 01:29:45,360
Speaker 2: smart and noticed that he's the only white comic.

1821
01:29:45,880 --> 01:29:49,240
Speaker 3: Y'all said that. We didn't say that. You started asking

1822
01:29:49,320 --> 01:29:51,080
Speaker 3: black people how we feel about Louis K. And it's

1823
01:29:51,120 --> 01:29:53,160
Speaker 3: usually the N word. It's gonna be way fucking different.

1824
01:29:53,760 --> 01:29:55,400
Speaker 2: Just because Chris Rock sit in the room with him

1825
01:29:55,439 --> 01:29:57,720
Speaker 2: and laugh at it doesn't mean every black person is

1826
01:29:57,800 --> 01:29:59,960
Speaker 2: obligated to give him some sort of a path.

1827
01:30:01,600 --> 01:30:02,600
Speaker 3: That's it all, you know.

1828
01:30:02,760 --> 01:30:04,880
Speaker 2: And I think that's what she realizing and bumping up

1829
01:30:04,880 --> 01:30:07,240
Speaker 2: against and that's why she's fucked with. But and I

1830
01:30:07,360 --> 01:30:10,080
Speaker 2: do understand she's centering herself as all of us do,

1831
01:30:10,280 --> 01:30:13,120
Speaker 2: because it happened to her and there's consequences of it.

1832
01:30:13,680 --> 01:30:18,240
Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm not fucked with at all by this

1833
01:30:20,160 --> 01:30:21,320
Speaker 2: zero you lost something.

1834
01:30:21,560 --> 01:30:22,120
Speaker 3: It happens.

1835
01:30:22,479 --> 01:30:24,880
Speaker 2: You know, you was out, you was wilding to fuck

1836
01:30:24,920 --> 01:30:27,200
Speaker 2: out with that black face shit. It's not like in

1837
01:30:27,280 --> 01:30:28,360
Speaker 2: two thousand and seven.

1838
01:30:28,160 --> 01:30:31,680
Speaker 3: We didn't know. It was a pensive, you know. So

1839
01:30:32,520 --> 01:30:33,160
Speaker 3: I can.

1840
01:30:34,520 --> 01:30:39,280
Speaker 1: Hmmm. I agree with some of the things that she

1841
01:30:39,400 --> 01:30:42,719
Speaker 1: said too, But my biggest thing is that only time

1842
01:30:42,840 --> 01:30:47,160
Speaker 1: will tell. And for the fact that you gave shade,

1843
01:30:47,200 --> 01:30:50,040
Speaker 1: which means you will hurt, which means did you truly

1844
01:30:50,120 --> 01:30:55,840
Speaker 1: completely go through this process? So for me, I'm going

1845
01:30:55,920 --> 01:30:59,160
Speaker 1: to give it a seventy five just for the fact

1846
01:30:59,439 --> 01:31:04,160
Speaker 1: that I'm fucked with, for the fact that she acts

1847
01:31:04,360 --> 01:31:08,120
Speaker 1: like the other person getting the job, like like they

1848
01:31:08,200 --> 01:31:10,920
Speaker 1: got this job because I fucked up. Right, Okay, you

1849
01:31:11,120 --> 01:31:13,800
Speaker 1: fucked up. You admitted you fucked up, But it's more

1850
01:31:13,920 --> 01:31:16,240
Speaker 1: to you just admitting you fucked up you have what does?

1851
01:31:16,600 --> 01:31:19,800
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but you have to accept you fucked up,

1852
01:31:19,920 --> 01:31:22,040
Speaker 1: and like you said, you have to admit that there's

1853
01:31:22,160 --> 01:31:25,120
Speaker 1: gonna be some losses, but you know what, you will

1854
01:31:25,200 --> 01:31:27,839
Speaker 1: be all right. Like it's not like you're going homeless

1855
01:31:27,960 --> 01:31:30,640
Speaker 1: or without. Uh So that's why I give it a

1856
01:31:30,720 --> 01:31:33,480
Speaker 1: seventy five because.

1857
01:31:33,320 --> 01:31:35,280
Speaker 3: It is what it is, and now you know what

1858
01:31:35,400 --> 01:31:37,560
Speaker 3: it is. So it's not like you're stupid And what

1859
01:31:37,760 --> 01:31:41,400
Speaker 3: does fucking the other person never stuck their neck out there?

1860
01:31:41,479 --> 01:31:41,639
Speaker 5: Men?

1861
01:31:41,800 --> 01:31:44,400
Speaker 3: Are you saying they never did blackface and said nigger?

1862
01:31:44,640 --> 01:31:44,680
Speaker 7: Like?

1863
01:31:45,320 --> 01:31:47,479
Speaker 2: So what that's sticking your neck out in comedy? That's

1864
01:31:47,920 --> 01:31:50,439
Speaker 2: like the reef Okay, now I am getting sucked with.

1865
01:31:50,520 --> 01:31:54,120
Speaker 2: But the reframing in comedy of this, like I do

1866
01:31:54,320 --> 01:31:57,920
Speaker 2: something racist and offensive and that's edged that's what. That's

1867
01:31:58,000 --> 01:32:01,160
Speaker 2: real comedy when the fucking world is already racist and offensive,

1868
01:32:01,800 --> 01:32:04,280
Speaker 2: is not actually doing anything fucking significant.

1869
01:32:05,280 --> 01:32:07,840
Speaker 3: You made other white people laugh at your nigger shit.

1870
01:32:09,080 --> 01:32:11,960
Speaker 3: I don't give you credit for that. You know you

1871
01:32:12,000 --> 01:32:14,760
Speaker 3: don't get any you're not a martyr. You did that

1872
01:32:15,080 --> 01:32:18,640
Speaker 3: for money and attention and laughs, and you thought it

1873
01:32:18,800 --> 01:32:21,560
Speaker 3: was cool because you didn't fucking know anybody outside of

1874
01:32:21,640 --> 01:32:24,800
Speaker 3: that circle that would say, hey, this is fucked up, man,

1875
01:32:24,880 --> 01:32:26,960
Speaker 3: and you shouldn't do it, or if you did know them,

1876
01:32:27,160 --> 01:32:29,120
Speaker 3: you just fucking roll past them like I'm gonna do

1877
01:32:29,160 --> 01:32:31,920
Speaker 3: it anyway, I'm say a Seltleman. So yeah, you might

1878
01:32:32,000 --> 01:32:34,680
Speaker 3: be paying consequences for that in twenty nineteen, and you

1879
01:32:34,800 --> 01:32:37,320
Speaker 3: didn't get a part you ain't broke. You got a

1880
01:32:37,360 --> 01:32:41,200
Speaker 3: whole Hulu special about about like forgiveness and reform. It

1881
01:32:41,640 --> 01:32:45,280
Speaker 3: Like if part of that is also embracing the consequences,

1882
01:32:46,160 --> 01:32:48,280
Speaker 3: that's like that's the part missing out. I don't know

1883
01:32:48,320 --> 01:32:49,599
Speaker 3: what she does on her Hulu show.

1884
01:32:50,160 --> 01:32:53,240
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe they do talk about that, but to me,

1885
01:32:53,400 --> 01:32:55,479
Speaker 2: you skipped over this part where you gotta pay the

1886
01:32:55,560 --> 01:32:58,719
Speaker 2: consequences in order for her to be progressed. Some people

1887
01:32:58,760 --> 01:33:01,400
Speaker 2: got to get off the fucking podyum and this is

1888
01:33:01,439 --> 01:33:03,040
Speaker 2: one of those situations where you got to just get

1889
01:33:03,080 --> 01:33:03,639
Speaker 2: out the podium.

1890
01:33:03,680 --> 01:33:05,479
Speaker 3: It can't be about you, Eve.

1891
01:33:05,560 --> 01:33:07,679
Speaker 2: I recently lost this job because it's some stupid shit

1892
01:33:07,680 --> 01:33:10,200
Speaker 2: I did in two thousand and seven, And I mean, look,

1893
01:33:10,400 --> 01:33:12,840
Speaker 2: that's that's sad. I wanted to do that part, but

1894
01:33:13,479 --> 01:33:15,160
Speaker 2: you know, I'm sad that I lost out on that.

1895
01:33:15,320 --> 01:33:17,639
Speaker 2: The lesson here, don't do black face kids. If you're

1896
01:33:17,640 --> 01:33:21,400
Speaker 2: coming up in comedy, it's not it's not really that funny.

1897
01:33:22,840 --> 01:33:25,439
Speaker 2: You know, you're still making yourself the victim. Then all right,

1898
01:33:25,520 --> 01:33:28,240
Speaker 2: I don't Now I'm a little bit skeptical, you'all point,

1899
01:33:28,360 --> 01:33:31,000
Speaker 2: you know, anyway, I do move it up.

1900
01:33:31,040 --> 01:33:31,160
Speaker 1: Now.

1901
01:33:31,160 --> 01:33:33,840
Speaker 2: I'm at least fifty fucked with because that shit wasn't

1902
01:33:33,880 --> 01:33:36,559
Speaker 2: funny when it happened. I remember I had a friend

1903
01:33:36,800 --> 01:33:40,559
Speaker 2: that was a big Sarah Silverman fan, and I watched

1904
01:33:41,080 --> 01:33:43,599
Speaker 2: some of her show, you know, and I was like, sorry,

1905
01:33:43,960 --> 01:33:44,800
Speaker 2: you know, it wasn't for me.

1906
01:33:45,000 --> 01:33:45,240
Speaker 1: Really.

1907
01:33:45,320 --> 01:33:50,599
Speaker 2: It was very alt comedy comedy. It was very like weird, wacky,

1908
01:33:51,560 --> 01:33:53,479
Speaker 2: you know, type of shit that I was like, I

1909
01:33:53,479 --> 01:33:55,040
Speaker 2: don't know, maybe you gotta be from Boston.

1910
01:33:55,320 --> 01:33:57,040
Speaker 3: I don't know. He was from Boston. He was white,

1911
01:33:57,479 --> 01:33:58,519
Speaker 3: you know, it was for him.

1912
01:33:59,160 --> 01:34:01,000
Speaker 2: And then of course, you know whole like Sarah Silton

1913
01:34:01,040 --> 01:34:02,880
Speaker 2: is so hot thing, so you got the white dudes

1914
01:34:02,920 --> 01:34:04,960
Speaker 2: that you know, it's like, are you.

1915
01:34:05,120 --> 01:34:07,120
Speaker 3: Are you enjoying the you think she's funny? You just

1916
01:34:07,160 --> 01:34:07,680
Speaker 3: want to fuck her?

1917
01:34:07,840 --> 01:34:12,960
Speaker 2: I can't tell, right, but uh yeah, I remember that

1918
01:34:13,080 --> 01:34:15,200
Speaker 2: one of the episodes I watched was that black face shit,

1919
01:34:15,200 --> 01:34:17,479
Speaker 2: and I was like, this isn't even it's just it's

1920
01:34:17,640 --> 01:34:19,120
Speaker 2: just like it's.

1921
01:34:19,000 --> 01:34:19,920
Speaker 3: The kind of joke anyone.

1922
01:34:20,040 --> 01:34:23,120
Speaker 2: It's like Dave Chappelle's transphobia jokes. You're like, anyone could

1923
01:34:23,120 --> 01:34:25,040
Speaker 2: have made these jokes, and they're not actually funny. It's

1924
01:34:25,280 --> 01:34:28,880
Speaker 2: almost beneath you if you claim to be funny. This

1925
01:34:29,000 --> 01:34:31,679
Speaker 2: is all This is actually not clever. It's only clever

1926
01:34:31,720 --> 01:34:33,800
Speaker 2: if you're a white person that has never fucking thought

1927
01:34:33,800 --> 01:34:36,559
Speaker 2: about this shit. And so to me, I was like, oh, okay,

1928
01:34:36,640 --> 01:34:38,320
Speaker 2: so she's just not that funny and move the fuck on,

1929
01:34:39,320 --> 01:34:42,400
Speaker 2: you know. But yeah, sounds like she just ain't never

1930
01:34:42,479 --> 01:34:44,160
Speaker 2: been around nobody that told her to her face, this

1931
01:34:44,200 --> 01:34:47,400
Speaker 2: shit ain't funny with me until lately, and she hasn't

1932
01:34:47,439 --> 01:34:50,400
Speaker 2: embraced that. She's like, well, yeah, it just wasn't funny.

1933
01:34:50,680 --> 01:34:52,640
Speaker 2: It was a mistake, but like I shouldn't have to

1934
01:34:52,800 --> 01:34:54,080
Speaker 2: like pay for it, right, And.

1935
01:34:54,120 --> 01:34:56,280
Speaker 1: That's why I gave it a seventy five, because this shit,

1936
01:34:56,320 --> 01:34:57,640
Speaker 1: I was going to give it a hundred. But I

1937
01:34:57,800 --> 01:35:00,479
Speaker 1: do agree with some of the things she said, But

1938
01:35:00,560 --> 01:35:02,920
Speaker 1: like I said, it's seventy five because you the way

1939
01:35:02,960 --> 01:35:06,400
Speaker 1: you sounded, Yeah, you sound like you didn't want to

1940
01:35:06,400 --> 01:35:07,559
Speaker 1: deal with the consequences of.

1941
01:35:07,600 --> 01:35:11,320
Speaker 3: It, right, like it's everybody else's fault. Correct, All right,

1942
01:35:11,439 --> 01:35:12,360
Speaker 3: let's go to the next one.

1943
01:35:12,400 --> 01:35:15,120
Speaker 2: The white woman under fire after expecting a watered down

1944
01:35:15,240 --> 01:35:18,880
Speaker 2: slave story on a plantation visit. A white couple took

1945
01:35:18,920 --> 01:35:21,200
Speaker 2: a trip to a southern plantation with the expectations of

1946
01:35:21,240 --> 01:35:24,559
Speaker 2: beautiful views and a light, easy trip. The plantation of choice,

1947
01:35:24,640 --> 01:35:27,720
Speaker 2: McLeod Plantation or McLear Plantation in Charleston.

1948
01:35:27,439 --> 01:35:29,920
Speaker 3: South Carolina. However, to come we might have to check

1949
01:35:29,960 --> 01:35:30,240
Speaker 3: that out.

1950
01:35:30,800 --> 01:35:34,320
Speaker 2: The couple received what most people would expect, the history,

1951
01:35:34,400 --> 01:35:37,200
Speaker 2: lesson on slavery and actual facts about the plantation as

1952
01:35:37,280 --> 01:35:40,120
Speaker 2: a gruesome and disturbing as they come. This, however, offended

1953
01:35:40,120 --> 01:35:42,400
Speaker 2: the woman forced her to leave an embarrassing review of

1954
01:35:42,479 --> 01:35:43,560
Speaker 2: her experience.

1955
01:35:46,720 --> 01:35:47,400
Speaker 3: Two stars.

1956
01:35:48,400 --> 01:35:49,839
Speaker 1: I thought slaves.

1957
01:35:50,280 --> 01:35:52,880
Speaker 2: My husband and I were extremely disappointed in this tour.

1958
01:35:53,880 --> 01:35:55,720
Speaker 2: We didn't come to hear a lecture on how the

1959
01:35:55,760 --> 01:35:57,680
Speaker 2: white people treat the slaves. We came to get this

1960
01:35:57,880 --> 01:36:00,439
Speaker 2: history of a southern plantation, to get a tour of

1961
01:36:00,560 --> 01:36:01,639
Speaker 2: the house and grounds.

1962
01:36:01,840 --> 01:36:03,000
Speaker 1: It's a fucking plantation.

1963
01:36:04,320 --> 01:36:07,160
Speaker 3: She wanted the history of the plantation care but not

1964
01:36:07,360 --> 01:36:10,799
Speaker 3: the but not the history of the plantation.

1965
01:36:10,920 --> 01:36:14,240
Speaker 1: I guess, ooh, look at the happy niggas plucking the flowers.

1966
01:36:16,120 --> 01:36:18,160
Speaker 3: But like, what would the history of the plantation be

1967
01:36:18,280 --> 01:36:19,679
Speaker 3: without talking about slavery?

1968
01:36:20,240 --> 01:36:20,400
Speaker 1: Right?

1969
01:36:20,760 --> 01:36:24,320
Speaker 3: This wood was taken from a birch tree, and they

1970
01:36:24,400 --> 01:36:25,400
Speaker 3: made the fence out of this.

1971
01:36:25,560 --> 01:36:28,840
Speaker 1: They sung and danced and praised their masters all day long.

1972
01:36:29,000 --> 01:36:30,840
Speaker 3: Well, that's still talking about the slaves. I think she

1973
01:36:31,000 --> 01:36:33,880
Speaker 3: was hoping for a slave frey explanation of just oh

1974
01:36:33,960 --> 01:36:36,639
Speaker 3: the tree, the tree became the tree became the fence

1975
01:36:36,760 --> 01:36:43,400
Speaker 3: magically through forest elves. Who who just the tree? Who

1976
01:36:43,600 --> 01:36:44,760
Speaker 3: just you know, tilled the cock?

1977
01:36:45,000 --> 01:36:46,679
Speaker 1: Keep the slavery out of my plantation?

1978
01:36:47,120 --> 01:36:53,920
Speaker 3: Right? I thought this had some ethical slavery going out here,

1979
01:36:54,240 --> 01:37:00,680
Speaker 3: right them crackers? Uh, the tour got I was so

1980
01:37:00,960 --> 01:37:02,439
Speaker 3: radical about slave treatment.

1981
01:37:02,520 --> 01:37:05,040
Speaker 2: We felt we were being lectured and bashed about slavery

1982
01:37:05,400 --> 01:37:07,280
Speaker 2: because you've never been taught about it. So you think

1983
01:37:07,520 --> 01:37:10,519
Speaker 2: learning is an attack on your brain, because you because

1984
01:37:10,720 --> 01:37:12,920
Speaker 2: because all of a sudden, your your empathy kicks in

1985
01:37:12,960 --> 01:37:15,160
Speaker 2: and you can't help and you're like, oh, this is terrible,

1986
01:37:15,200 --> 01:37:15,879
Speaker 2: this is horrible.

1987
01:37:16,439 --> 01:37:21,240
Speaker 3: Why are you making me feel things? Let me guess

1988
01:37:21,280 --> 01:37:25,160
Speaker 3: you were triggered by learning my ancestors was he was

1989
01:37:25,160 --> 01:37:26,759
Speaker 3: supposed to call it trigger warning slavery.

1990
01:37:27,400 --> 01:37:31,559
Speaker 2: My ancestors were from Sicily never owned slaves. My husband

1991
01:37:31,680 --> 01:37:34,160
Speaker 2: was German, none of his ever owned slaves.

1992
01:37:34,840 --> 01:37:37,479
Speaker 3: Then why do you feel so fucking attacked because you're learning,

1993
01:37:38,880 --> 01:37:40,519
Speaker 3: if anything, you should be the white people on that

1994
01:37:40,560 --> 01:37:43,400
Speaker 3: point of other white people like see y'all nasty as ancestors.

1995
01:37:43,439 --> 01:37:47,120
Speaker 2: But from this I am by far not a racist

1996
01:37:47,320 --> 01:37:49,800
Speaker 2: or against all Americans having equal rights. But this is

1997
01:37:49,880 --> 01:37:53,160
Speaker 2: my vacation, and now we're crossing all plantation towards off

1998
01:37:53,280 --> 01:37:53,760
Speaker 2: our list.

1999
01:37:54,280 --> 01:37:55,839
Speaker 3: It was just not what we expected.

2000
01:37:55,920 --> 01:37:58,840
Speaker 2: I'll go back to Louisiana and see some real plantations

2001
01:37:58,880 --> 01:38:01,000
Speaker 2: that are so much more enjoyable to tour.

2002
01:38:00,920 --> 01:38:03,280
Speaker 1: Because you're not doing you probably just walking around fucking

2003
01:38:03,280 --> 01:38:05,320
Speaker 1: picking the flowers. Nobody's actually giving you a tour. If

2004
01:38:05,320 --> 01:38:07,280
Speaker 1: they are, they giving you a half ass tour.

2005
01:38:11,080 --> 01:38:14,840
Speaker 3: Zero to one care. Yeah, I'm actually go to your

2006
01:38:14,920 --> 01:38:18,200
Speaker 3: cards on this one, going.

2007
01:38:18,120 --> 01:38:20,280
Speaker 1: To a goddamn plant Did you did you have your

2008
01:38:20,320 --> 01:38:21,040
Speaker 1: wedding there too?

2009
01:38:24,520 --> 01:38:29,280
Speaker 3: Oh my god, that's so ridiculous. I was just not

2010
01:38:29,400 --> 01:38:33,800
Speaker 3: affected slavery to come up, What folks, what are these

2011
01:38:33,840 --> 01:38:36,360
Speaker 3: people even talking about this is just too much.

2012
01:38:40,880 --> 01:38:42,680
Speaker 1: They owned What do you mean they own them?

2013
01:38:43,680 --> 01:38:45,960
Speaker 3: I thought they were just saying some Negro spirituals. I

2014
01:38:46,080 --> 01:38:48,479
Speaker 3: didn't know they was out here slaving them.

2015
01:38:49,640 --> 01:38:50,240
Speaker 5: What is this?

2016
01:38:50,920 --> 01:38:53,639
Speaker 3: And they the game, the brutal detail they was talking

2017
01:38:53,640 --> 01:38:56,519
Speaker 3: about what actually happened? Wow, give me.

2018
01:38:56,680 --> 01:38:57,360
Speaker 1: Facts and ship.

2019
01:38:57,520 --> 01:39:02,080
Speaker 2: No, I prefer a live please, let me live in

2020
01:39:02,160 --> 01:39:04,680
Speaker 2: the matrix. A black man was about to buy a

2021
01:39:04,760 --> 01:39:08,479
Speaker 2: Cops house. Then he found a KKK application in the bedroom.

2022
01:39:10,720 --> 01:39:15,160
Speaker 7: Reasonable yesterday, my wife and I met up with our

2023
01:39:15,280 --> 01:39:19,800
Speaker 7: realator and Holton to do a walk through appropriate that

2024
01:39:20,000 --> 01:39:23,519
Speaker 7: she sent to us that was comparable to this house

2025
01:39:23,800 --> 01:39:25,200
Speaker 7: and had more acreage.

2026
01:39:25,400 --> 01:39:27,240
Speaker 3: Hey, this is just a YouTube video of him talking

2027
01:39:27,280 --> 01:39:29,680
Speaker 3: about it. I thought it was the news. All right,

2028
01:39:29,680 --> 01:39:30,080
Speaker 3: I'll read it.

2029
01:39:30,240 --> 01:39:33,000
Speaker 2: The Confederate flag place matt on the dining room table

2030
01:39:33,200 --> 01:39:36,120
Speaker 2: was Rob Matthes's first hint that something was off inside

2031
01:39:36,160 --> 01:39:37,360
Speaker 2: the home he was thinking of buying.

2032
01:39:39,160 --> 01:39:41,040
Speaker 3: This must be the same dude that asked my dad

2033
01:39:41,120 --> 01:39:42,200
Speaker 3: to cut his grass or whatever.

2034
01:39:45,479 --> 01:39:48,360
Speaker 2: Bold so just put on these chains and then going

2035
01:39:48,400 --> 01:39:51,240
Speaker 2: out there till the little forty Thanks boy. I thought

2036
01:39:51,320 --> 01:39:53,320
Speaker 2: to myself, wouldn't it be funny if this is a

2037
01:39:53,400 --> 01:39:57,320
Speaker 2: clansman's house, he said. Previously, Masses and his wife Riena

2038
01:39:58,439 --> 01:40:02,400
Speaker 2: Arena Rayna sorry right now, had been ready to make

2039
01:40:02,439 --> 01:40:04,519
Speaker 2: an offer on the five bedroom house they viewed on

2040
01:40:04,600 --> 01:40:07,600
Speaker 2: Wednesday in Holton, Michigan, a small township of less than

2041
01:40:07,600 --> 01:40:11,599
Speaker 2: three thousand people a Muskegone County. They thought the house

2042
01:40:11,680 --> 01:40:13,960
Speaker 2: on the twenty two acre would it lot about an

2043
01:40:14,000 --> 01:40:15,960
Speaker 2: hour out side of Grand Rapids, Michigan, would give them

2044
01:40:16,080 --> 01:40:19,280
Speaker 2: enough space to entertain their children and grandchildren. Then Matthes

2045
01:40:19,280 --> 01:40:22,320
Speaker 2: walked into the NASCAR decorated garage to see not one,

2046
01:40:22,400 --> 01:40:24,599
Speaker 2: but two Confederate flags and what his wife would tell

2047
01:40:24,640 --> 01:40:26,720
Speaker 2: him was the home of a police officer.

2048
01:40:28,120 --> 01:40:30,360
Speaker 3: Michigan. Guys. Now, I don't know if you guys checked,

2049
01:40:30,360 --> 01:40:34,519
Speaker 3: but Michigan was not exactly on the Confederate side of

2050
01:40:34,520 --> 01:40:37,120
Speaker 3: the Confederate War, the Civil War.

2051
01:40:37,640 --> 01:40:42,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's funny how chit leaves the Mason Dixon line,

2052
01:40:42,200 --> 01:40:45,320
Speaker 1: like I keep saying that. But people act like slavery

2053
01:40:45,479 --> 01:40:48,800
Speaker 1: own half and in the South like that shit end

2054
01:40:48,880 --> 01:40:52,840
Speaker 1: up in Boston, end up in Chicago. It ain't out

2055
01:40:52,960 --> 01:40:56,360
Speaker 1: in California, act like that shit just nowhere, but the

2056
01:40:56,439 --> 01:40:57,120
Speaker 1: goddamn South.

2057
01:40:57,800 --> 01:41:03,080
Speaker 3: Yeah. Interesting, Interesting, you just Uh. I guess he's rooting

2058
01:41:03,120 --> 01:41:03,840
Speaker 3: for the away team.

2059
01:41:03,920 --> 01:41:04,080
Speaker 4: Huh.

2060
01:41:06,120 --> 01:41:08,280
Speaker 2: When the family and the real estate agent went upstairs

2061
01:41:08,320 --> 01:41:10,439
Speaker 2: to check out the bedrooms, mattheses and the sun noticed

2062
01:41:10,479 --> 01:41:14,679
Speaker 2: a Loane wooden plaque holding an age yellow document. Once

2063
01:41:15,320 --> 01:41:17,760
Speaker 2: the father and son got close to they realized.

2064
01:41:18,960 --> 01:41:19,080
Speaker 3: Oh.

2065
01:41:19,200 --> 01:41:21,280
Speaker 2: While they discussed to realize that it was an application

2066
01:41:21,400 --> 01:41:25,519
Speaker 2: to the KKK's I said, oh, my god, let's go

2067
01:41:25,640 --> 01:41:27,800
Speaker 2: and get out of here right now. Walking through a

2068
01:41:27,880 --> 01:41:31,400
Speaker 2: home of a police officer with KKK memborabilia rattle Mathess,

2069
01:41:31,439 --> 01:41:33,560
Speaker 2: who struggled to grapple with what he see in the

2070
01:41:33,640 --> 01:41:36,720
Speaker 2: clan house. I feel sick to my stomach knowing that

2071
01:41:36,800 --> 01:41:39,200
Speaker 2: I walked to the home of one of the most

2072
01:41:39,320 --> 01:41:42,759
Speaker 2: racist people in Muskegone. Hide him behind his uniform, possibly

2073
01:41:42,880 --> 01:41:46,000
Speaker 2: rise the people of color in different nationalities, he wrote

2074
01:41:46,040 --> 01:41:46,639
Speaker 2: on Facebook.

2075
01:41:47,040 --> 01:41:49,160
Speaker 3: In response, Muskegoone announced on Tuesday.

2076
01:41:49,240 --> 01:41:51,800
Speaker 2: On Thursday that the police department opened an internal investigation

2077
01:41:51,880 --> 01:41:54,120
Speaker 2: at the social media post was brought to their attention

2078
01:41:55,040 --> 01:41:57,679
Speaker 2: accusing the officer of being possession of certain items associated

2079
01:41:57,680 --> 01:41:58,760
Speaker 2: with white supremacy group.

2080
01:41:59,439 --> 01:42:00,759
Speaker 1: No matter, gonna do nothing.

2081
01:42:01,360 --> 01:42:09,920
Speaker 3: Uh, certain items associated with being in a white supremacy

2082
01:42:09,960 --> 01:42:11,240
Speaker 3: group is o here that right.

2083
01:42:12,439 --> 01:42:26,320
Speaker 5: Mm hmmer, just.

2084
01:42:32,200 --> 01:42:37,280
Speaker 3: Which white supremacy group, the police or the kk K.

2085
01:42:40,840 --> 01:42:45,040
Speaker 3: Sounds like he's a member of two white supremacy groups

2086
01:42:45,560 --> 01:42:51,000
Speaker 3: from my calculation. Now, maybe I'm tripping. I mean, if

2087
01:42:51,040 --> 01:42:53,280
Speaker 3: he was able to work as a police officer and

2088
01:42:53,400 --> 01:42:54,040
Speaker 3: be a member.

2089
01:42:53,880 --> 01:42:58,120
Speaker 2: Of the KKK, and y'all weren't able to notice because

2090
01:42:58,439 --> 01:43:02,240
Speaker 2: his actions weren't any different, and then the other police officers,

2091
01:43:03,080 --> 01:43:06,800
Speaker 2: it would lend itself to believe that the actions of

2092
01:43:06,880 --> 01:43:09,519
Speaker 2: a white supremacist are quite in line with the actions

2093
01:43:09,560 --> 01:43:10,400
Speaker 2: of a police officer.

2094
01:43:11,080 --> 01:43:18,240
Speaker 3: Maybe it's just me. Maybe I'm tripping. I don't know

2095
01:43:20,760 --> 01:43:21,400
Speaker 3: the homeowners.

2096
01:43:22,120 --> 01:43:26,879
Speaker 2: The homeowner was identified by local media as Charles Anderson,

2097
01:43:26,920 --> 01:43:30,080
Speaker 2: a forty eight year old officer the City of Muskegone

2098
01:43:30,160 --> 01:43:32,240
Speaker 2: question pages we thoroughly investigate this case.

2099
01:43:32,720 --> 01:43:38,040
Speaker 3: Okay, did you apply for the KKK? I mean a's

2100
01:43:38,080 --> 01:43:39,600
Speaker 3: a backup plan if I didn't get in hit.

2101
01:43:39,800 --> 01:43:42,640
Speaker 2: I mean shit, uh, the police department. I mean, I

2102
01:43:42,760 --> 01:43:44,400
Speaker 2: need a part time job. I can't be a police

2103
01:43:44,439 --> 01:43:45,400
Speaker 2: officer all the time.

2104
01:43:45,520 --> 01:43:46,920
Speaker 3: I mean uniform.

2105
01:43:47,120 --> 01:43:50,960
Speaker 2: Look, I am a police officer, you know, because I

2106
01:43:51,400 --> 01:43:53,680
Speaker 2: I of love okay with the KKK.

2107
01:43:53,439 --> 01:43:54,240
Speaker 3: That's my pleasure.

2108
01:43:55,040 --> 01:43:58,560
Speaker 2: The police the police department could not be reached for

2109
01:43:58,640 --> 01:43:59,719
Speaker 2: comment late Thursday.

2110
01:44:00,439 --> 01:44:01,000
Speaker 3: Of course, not.

2111
01:44:02,520 --> 01:44:05,080
Speaker 2: Call now on one say some black people acting up,

2112
01:44:05,120 --> 01:44:10,160
Speaker 2: then you can get in contact with him. By the way, Anderson,

2113
01:44:10,720 --> 01:44:13,240
Speaker 2: a police officer who was cleared of fatally shooting a

2114
01:44:13,280 --> 01:44:16,759
Speaker 2: black man in two thousand and nine, ordered a brief response.

2115
01:44:16,840 --> 01:44:19,679
Speaker 2: To offer the brief response to the allegations on m Live.

2116
01:44:20,200 --> 01:44:21,840
Speaker 2: They said not to talk about it. That's what they

2117
01:44:21,920 --> 01:44:24,560
Speaker 2: told me because it's under internal investigation. They said not

2118
01:44:24,640 --> 01:44:25,320
Speaker 2: to make a statement.

2119
01:44:25,920 --> 01:44:27,559
Speaker 3: So he has killed a black person in the line

2120
01:44:27,600 --> 01:44:33,439
Speaker 3: to do the y'all, what are ours? Is that still working?

2121
01:44:33,960 --> 01:44:39,080
Speaker 2: Police officer's wife, Rachel told Wood that she rejected the

2122
01:44:39,160 --> 01:44:41,040
Speaker 2: question of whether her husband was a member of the KKK.

2123
01:44:41,840 --> 01:44:42,519
Speaker 3: No, he's not.

2124
01:44:42,800 --> 01:44:45,439
Speaker 2: No, No, he can't say anything right now. I wish

2125
01:44:45,520 --> 01:44:47,160
Speaker 2: we could, because it will probably say a lot of

2126
01:44:47,200 --> 01:44:51,800
Speaker 2: things straight. Unless this motherfucker was gonna start Black Clansman two,

2127
01:44:52,439 --> 01:44:53,479
Speaker 2: it's nothing to say straight.

2128
01:44:55,880 --> 01:44:57,439
Speaker 3: Like this a plot to the sequel.

2129
01:44:58,600 --> 01:45:08,000
Speaker 8: We're doing it again. Oh my god, we're doing that.

2130
01:45:08,160 --> 01:45:09,840
Speaker 8: We're doing it all over again, y'all.

2131
01:45:09,960 --> 01:45:11,160
Speaker 3: We were back.

2132
01:45:12,800 --> 01:45:15,040
Speaker 1: Guess who's back again.

2133
01:45:16,240 --> 01:45:20,080
Speaker 2: Oh I'm gonna just call up to the KKK, get

2134
01:45:20,120 --> 01:45:23,440
Speaker 2: them on the line and go ahead and uh start.

2135
01:45:23,160 --> 01:45:24,559
Speaker 3: This sequel with the red white man.

2136
01:45:24,640 --> 01:45:28,400
Speaker 2: We can do anything, somebody called John David Washington, and

2137
01:45:28,680 --> 01:45:31,360
Speaker 2: uh see if we can, uh you know, get this

2138
01:45:31,400 --> 01:45:34,880
Speaker 2: ship popping. Okay, we about we're about to k all

2139
01:45:34,920 --> 01:45:38,000
Speaker 2: the money spike. You might not have won the first one,

2140
01:45:38,080 --> 01:45:41,280
Speaker 2: but you just didn't have the right police department, right

2141
01:45:41,320 --> 01:45:41,960
Speaker 2: white officers.

2142
01:45:42,040 --> 01:45:44,200
Speaker 1: But my mouth to God's ears, I really hate those

2143
01:45:44,280 --> 01:45:46,160
Speaker 1: nigga rats and anyone else.

2144
01:45:46,040 --> 01:45:48,800
Speaker 3: Really that doesn't have pure white Arian blood running through their.

2145
01:45:48,760 --> 01:45:51,320
Speaker 5: Veins talking about true white America.

2146
01:45:51,720 --> 01:45:53,320
Speaker 3: God bless white America.

2147
01:45:54,360 --> 01:45:54,479
Speaker 5: Uh.

2148
01:45:56,760 --> 01:46:00,840
Speaker 3: By the time they exited, oh wait. The incident in

2149
01:46:00,920 --> 01:46:04,080
Speaker 3: Michigan comes amid a recent uptacking law enforcement and government agencies,

2150
01:46:04,160 --> 01:46:06,799
Speaker 3: like from the Saint Louis Police to the State Department,

2151
01:46:07,000 --> 01:46:09,719
Speaker 3: addressing allegations of officers and other officials accused of promoting

2152
01:46:09,720 --> 01:46:13,080
Speaker 3: white supremacy, racism, or violence. By the time he exited

2153
01:46:13,080 --> 01:46:16,240
Speaker 3: the police officer's home around three pm Wednesday, Matthis said

2154
01:46:16,280 --> 01:46:19,840
Speaker 3: he felt violated by the open displays of racism. The

2155
01:46:19,920 --> 01:46:23,000
Speaker 3: couple was told the homeowner collected antiques like the ones

2156
01:46:23,080 --> 01:46:25,800
Speaker 3: decide the home, but the mathis family maintains a cop

2157
01:46:25,920 --> 01:46:27,960
Speaker 3: new exactly what he's doing, showing off pieces of KKK

2158
01:46:28,120 --> 01:46:29,120
Speaker 3: Confederate Memabelia.

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Speaker 1: I would say that their relator was white because the

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01:46:34,160 --> 01:46:36,479
Speaker 1: dad a black one. They wouldn't have crossed. They'd crossed

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01:46:36,520 --> 01:46:39,439
Speaker 1: that house off the list yet, because how dare you

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01:46:39,640 --> 01:46:41,639
Speaker 1: take some black people up in there think it's all

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01:46:41,760 --> 01:46:43,880
Speaker 1: good because you've seen the shit before. I did out

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01:46:43,920 --> 01:46:45,120
Speaker 1: to cut them, smooth out.

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Speaker 2: The realtor gotta be fired. The fact that they didn't

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01:46:47,680 --> 01:46:49,800
Speaker 2: make them take everything down when showing the home. I

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01:46:49,960 --> 01:46:52,840
Speaker 2: have watched flipped this house. Okay, that is not how

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01:46:52,880 --> 01:46:53,280
Speaker 2: you do it.

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01:46:53,800 --> 01:46:55,200
Speaker 1: If you want to sell it, you get rid of

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01:46:55,240 --> 01:46:55,840
Speaker 1: all that shit.

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01:46:56,000 --> 01:46:57,479
Speaker 3: Oh oh, I'd have been on that.

2172
01:46:57,560 --> 01:47:00,719
Speaker 1: Relatives asked, the fuck is this man?

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01:47:00,960 --> 01:47:03,000
Speaker 3: This was a better plot for the intruder.

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01:47:04,680 --> 01:47:07,880
Speaker 2: His wife, Rayna Mathis, who is Hispanic, recalled the station

2175
01:47:08,600 --> 01:47:13,479
Speaker 2: as uncomfortable, the situation as uncomfortable. She said she her

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01:47:13,560 --> 01:47:16,280
Speaker 2: family collects items from the Detroit Red Wings and University

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01:47:16,280 --> 01:47:18,680
Speaker 2: of Michigan because they're proud of these affiliations, which is

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01:47:18,720 --> 01:47:21,120
Speaker 2: why she questions how you could keep racist items up

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01:47:21,160 --> 01:47:22,880
Speaker 2: in his home if he didn't associate with them.

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01:47:23,040 --> 01:47:25,200
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, I got some memorabilla.

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01:47:25,200 --> 01:47:27,720
Speaker 2: You guys can look around this room and see there's

2182
01:47:28,720 --> 01:47:34,360
Speaker 2: the millennium falcons behind me, there's an amazing Spider Man decal.

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01:47:34,439 --> 01:47:36,800
Speaker 3: There's a death star for Star Wars over there by

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01:47:36,920 --> 01:47:41,600
Speaker 3: Karen and uh oh my kkk road uh slightly, I

2185
01:47:41,640 --> 01:47:43,439
Speaker 3: don't care to the right. You guys can't see that.

2186
01:47:43,560 --> 01:47:45,599
Speaker 3: But I just collect. You know, I'm just a nerd

2187
01:47:45,640 --> 01:47:46,439
Speaker 3: about these things.

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01:47:47,479 --> 01:47:49,920
Speaker 2: Sometimes you want to get like a swastika, you know,

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01:47:50,120 --> 01:47:52,160
Speaker 2: and just maybe hot put it over your TV and

2190
01:47:52,240 --> 01:47:55,760
Speaker 2: how because hey, we're just collecting old things that they

2191
01:47:55,840 --> 01:47:59,120
Speaker 2: have no value to me. Okay, I'm just a fan.

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01:47:59,320 --> 01:48:00,680
Speaker 2: You thought I was a fan in the Star Wars. No,

2193
01:48:00,760 --> 01:48:04,920
Speaker 2: I'm a fan of just collecting things. Okay, So that's

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01:48:04,960 --> 01:48:10,559
Speaker 2: all it is. Yeah, they going on about house said

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01:48:10,600 --> 01:48:11,320
Speaker 2: they were stuff.

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01:48:12,560 --> 01:48:15,360
Speaker 1: Yes, somebody somewhere should have been like, do you want

2197
01:48:15,400 --> 01:48:18,000
Speaker 1: to sell this house? You must not. We don't put

2198
01:48:18,040 --> 01:48:18,880
Speaker 1: take that shit down.

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01:48:19,120 --> 01:48:21,880
Speaker 2: The discovery of Anderson's racist collection has cast a new

2200
01:48:21,960 --> 01:48:25,040
Speaker 2: light on nearly decade old fatal shooting. Anderson was pursuing

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01:48:25,280 --> 01:48:27,519
Speaker 2: twenty three year old Julius Johnson during the traffic stop

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01:48:27,560 --> 01:48:30,120
Speaker 2: September twenty third two thousand and nine man.

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01:48:30,720 --> 01:48:32,600
Speaker 3: According to the findings.

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01:48:32,200 --> 01:48:36,240
Speaker 2: Of an investigation from the county's prosecutor, Johnson beat Anderson

2205
01:48:36,280 --> 01:48:39,679
Speaker 2: in the head, which caused the police officer say fear

2206
01:48:39,760 --> 01:48:41,680
Speaker 2: for his life to shoot and kill the black man.

2207
01:48:42,000 --> 01:48:45,200
Speaker 2: Johnson's sisters Deniesia Phillips initially told investigator she heard her

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01:48:45,240 --> 01:48:48,439
Speaker 2: brother bag for his life before Anderson shot him. The

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01:48:48,520 --> 01:48:51,760
Speaker 2: prosecutor later clear Anderson around doing eventually charged Phillips would

2210
01:48:51,760 --> 01:48:55,040
Speaker 2: lie to the police, propped in protests from Johnson's family

2211
01:48:55,080 --> 01:48:57,759
Speaker 2: and the NAACP. According to Live, Eric Hood, the president

2212
01:48:57,840 --> 01:49:03,479
Speaker 2: of the NAACAP in Moskegon County, has now called for

2213
01:49:03,520 --> 01:49:05,559
Speaker 2: a comprehensive look at and this is dealing with people

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01:49:05,640 --> 01:49:05,960
Speaker 2: of color.

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01:49:07,400 --> 01:49:11,960
Speaker 3: We want a thorough investigator. Well yeah, of course, mm hmm.

2216
01:49:12,600 --> 01:49:15,160
Speaker 1: Yeah. This could have been evaded if you did put

2217
01:49:15,200 --> 01:49:17,439
Speaker 1: your shit up, but you had to short on display.

2218
01:49:17,560 --> 01:49:18,479
Speaker 1: Now you bring it up.

2219
01:49:18,600 --> 01:49:19,000
Speaker 3: Oh shit.

2220
01:49:19,280 --> 01:49:23,240
Speaker 2: It wasn't an easy decision for the Mathesists to publicize

2221
01:49:23,320 --> 01:49:26,879
Speaker 2: their experience. Ran the Mathis word about their family safety,

2222
01:49:27,000 --> 01:49:30,679
Speaker 2: but was eventually convinced by her husband that they needed

2223
01:49:30,720 --> 01:49:34,439
Speaker 2: to speak out, resulting in an overwhelming response on social media.

2224
01:49:34,800 --> 01:49:35,759
Speaker 3: I hope for the community.

2225
01:49:35,800 --> 01:49:37,880
Speaker 2: If his intentions aren't good, he does not need to

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01:49:37,920 --> 01:49:40,800
Speaker 2: be a police officer. We and all minorities are in

2227
01:49:40,960 --> 01:49:41,439
Speaker 2: orange way.

2228
01:49:41,520 --> 01:49:42,320
Speaker 3: If that's the case.

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01:49:45,479 --> 01:49:49,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're very brave to do this, especially if he's

2230
01:49:49,080 --> 01:49:54,599
Speaker 2: part of the KKK, so you know, because that might

2231
01:49:54,680 --> 01:50:01,559
Speaker 2: put them in danger. Uh zen, Okay, I would give

2232
01:50:01,600 --> 01:50:04,320
Speaker 2: this your cars as well. This is your cars past

2233
01:50:04,360 --> 01:50:06,800
Speaker 2: one hundred Okay is not good enough.

2234
01:50:08,640 --> 01:50:13,320
Speaker 3: Fucking KKK application along with three Confederate flags. And you

2235
01:50:13,479 --> 01:50:16,720
Speaker 3: in Michigan and you're letting people see your house and

2236
01:50:16,880 --> 01:50:18,240
Speaker 3: your police officers.

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01:50:18,439 --> 01:50:23,680
Speaker 2: Dr cars yea, be out your motherfucking mind. All right,

2238
01:50:25,320 --> 01:50:31,240
Speaker 2: this has been long enough, guys. Let's getting the sword ratchiness. Okay,

2239
01:50:31,680 --> 01:50:36,200
Speaker 2: I want to go. I did have a good time, hopefully.

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Speaker 3: You know, hopefully I reached some people about Okay, I

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01:50:41,600 --> 01:50:45,320
Speaker 3: hope so hopefully some people get that hate out their heart. Okay,

2242
01:50:46,120 --> 01:50:49,400
Speaker 3: we have to be I have to be sheep guys

2243
01:50:49,720 --> 01:50:54,320
Speaker 3: from beyond own people. All right, sword ratching this time?

2244
01:51:12,360 --> 01:51:16,280
Speaker 3: And of course I went to the wrong segment, went

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01:51:16,320 --> 01:51:18,240
Speaker 3: to the wrong section of my pocket.

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01:51:18,320 --> 01:51:22,639
Speaker 1: App y'all got the real sound effect today? Oh yeah,

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01:51:22,920 --> 01:51:25,600
Speaker 1: First is my made up version of the title. Was

2248
01:51:25,640 --> 01:51:26,639
Speaker 1: cutting the food yesterday.

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01:51:26,840 --> 01:51:27,800
Speaker 3: It was pretty good though.

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Speaker 1: That's what it sounded like to be.

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01:51:29,640 --> 01:51:32,439
Speaker 2: A man armed with a samurai sword shot dead after

2252
01:51:32,640 --> 01:51:35,680
Speaker 2: Queensland home siege. A man has reportedly been shot dead

2253
01:51:35,760 --> 01:51:39,160
Speaker 2: by police after stand off at the home southwest of Brisbane.

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01:51:39,520 --> 01:51:43,200
Speaker 2: A police spokeswoman confirmed officers were called to a disturbance

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01:51:43,280 --> 01:51:47,360
Speaker 2: on Castlewarie Street in Dolondella around.

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01:51:48,520 --> 01:51:53,599
Speaker 3: Five twenty five point two am. What five twenty am?

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01:51:54,160 --> 01:51:58,160
Speaker 3: Okay on Monday saying day, what's your editors?

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01:51:58,760 --> 01:52:00,599
Speaker 2: Well, I guess in Australia that was the right time,

2259
01:52:00,680 --> 01:52:05,280
Speaker 2: different anyway, and on Monday saying they were involved at

2260
01:52:05,280 --> 01:52:05,920
Speaker 2: a steaded off.

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01:52:07,400 --> 01:52:08,519
Speaker 3: With the man. People would not.

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01:52:08,640 --> 01:52:10,599
Speaker 2: Police were not confirmed or reports the man with shot

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01:52:10,640 --> 01:52:14,519
Speaker 2: dead after making threats with the samurai swords.

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01:52:14,560 --> 01:52:16,080
Speaker 3: Believed there were children at the home at the time.

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01:52:16,160 --> 01:52:17,880
Speaker 2: Police have blocked off part of the street, so I

2266
01:52:17,920 --> 01:52:19,639
Speaker 2: guess we'll get an update on this at some point.

2267
01:52:19,720 --> 01:52:24,160
Speaker 2: But sounded like motherfucker had some hostages and the sword and.

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01:52:24,479 --> 01:52:27,000
Speaker 3: Police had to do what they had to do to

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01:52:27,080 --> 01:52:30,880
Speaker 3: get him up out the paint. Okay, all right, guys,

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01:52:31,080 --> 01:52:33,400
Speaker 3: that is it for to day. We'll be back.

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01:52:33,320 --> 01:52:36,519
Speaker 2: Probably tomorrow and Wednesday, depending on how we feel. And

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01:52:37,240 --> 01:52:40,400
Speaker 2: thank you guys for listening, and thank you Karen for

2273
01:52:40,560 --> 01:52:44,240
Speaker 2: being here. And I'm sorry I didn't understand right away

2274
01:52:44,280 --> 01:52:46,720
Speaker 2: what you were saying about the white people and the

2275
01:52:46,880 --> 01:52:48,800
Speaker 2: LGBT community stuff.

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01:52:48,560 --> 01:52:52,880
Speaker 3: But I'm glad that we you explained it enough so

2277
01:52:52,920 --> 01:52:53,839
Speaker 3: I can finally understand.

2278
01:52:54,280 --> 01:52:56,160
Speaker 1: And no, no, on top of that, thank you for

2279
01:52:56,280 --> 01:53:00,760
Speaker 1: allowing me to clarify because somebody else may have had

2280
01:53:00,800 --> 01:53:03,679
Speaker 1: the same questions that you have. And I know sometimes

2281
01:53:03,760 --> 01:53:05,920
Speaker 1: when I say things, I might not be as detailed

2282
01:53:05,960 --> 01:53:08,760
Speaker 1: as I should at times, and you know, you pluck

2283
01:53:08,800 --> 01:53:11,439
Speaker 1: a rain bad enough, you know I'll finally get to

2284
01:53:11,520 --> 01:53:12,000
Speaker 1: the root of it.

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01:53:12,320 --> 01:53:12,479
Speaker 7: Yeah.

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01:53:12,560 --> 01:53:15,120
Speaker 2: I just wanted to understand, and I appreciate you explain it.

2287
01:53:15,200 --> 01:53:16,920
Speaker 2: I think a lot of times people hear that stuff

2288
01:53:16,960 --> 01:53:19,080
Speaker 2: and they get defensive.

2289
01:53:18,720 --> 01:53:19,599
Speaker 3: But that's just how I am.

2290
01:53:19,880 --> 01:53:22,840
Speaker 2: Well, I'm like, I don't understand this, explain it because

2291
01:53:22,880 --> 01:53:24,400
Speaker 2: this is what I'm saying, this is what I'm hearing.

2292
01:53:24,520 --> 01:53:25,280
Speaker 3: Is this what you're saying?

2293
01:53:25,920 --> 01:53:28,240
Speaker 2: And you know, I think a lot of times with

2294
01:53:28,439 --> 01:53:32,000
Speaker 2: my personality, people think that's like I gotcha moment, like

2295
01:53:32,360 --> 01:53:34,200
Speaker 2: I'm gonna jump on your shit now, Oh you don't

2296
01:53:34,240 --> 01:53:35,720
Speaker 2: know what the fuck you're talking about like, it's not

2297
01:53:35,840 --> 01:53:37,960
Speaker 2: that I just want to understand, cause then if I

2298
01:53:38,000 --> 01:53:41,120
Speaker 2: can understand, then maybe we agree or disagree. But at

2299
01:53:41,200 --> 01:53:43,800
Speaker 2: least I know exactly what you meant, as opposed to

2300
01:53:43,840 --> 01:53:46,160
Speaker 2: me assuming shit and not knowing what the fuck happened,

2301
01:53:46,400 --> 01:53:48,559
Speaker 2: or even worse, somebody in the audience assuming some shitting

2302
01:53:48,640 --> 01:53:49,040
Speaker 2: right up here.

2303
01:53:49,040 --> 01:53:51,400
Speaker 3: We're gonna get enough stuff anyway.

2304
01:53:53,040 --> 01:53:55,360
Speaker 2: You got people out here calling us weird because of

2305
01:53:55,520 --> 01:53:59,680
Speaker 2: how we feel about the Xbox. We got people let's go.

2306
01:54:00,680 --> 01:54:03,000
Speaker 2: You know they're gonna be mad about the Taylor Swift shit.

2307
01:54:03,040 --> 01:54:05,240
Speaker 2: I know somebody gonna write some ignorant shit about the

2308
01:54:05,800 --> 01:54:08,160
Speaker 2: Taylor Swift shit, taking me all out of context. And

2309
01:54:08,880 --> 01:54:11,479
Speaker 2: I already know what's gonna happen, so at least we

2310
01:54:11,560 --> 01:54:13,280
Speaker 2: don't have to ever worry about doing it to each other.

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01:54:13,560 --> 01:54:15,519
Speaker 3: All right, until next time, I love you.

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01:54:15,600 --> 01:54:16,519
Speaker 1: I love you too, Yeah,