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Speaker 1: Let's talk about Princess Kate. So let's go through some scenarios.

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Speaker 1: Let's say number one, she is ill or recovering until Easter.

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Speaker 1: As stated, she may not look the way that she

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Speaker 2: She got caught, and now.

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Speaker 1: They're figuring out what to do about that, and they

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Speaker 1: They are acknowledging that the picture was manipulated, which we

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Speaker 1: already knew, not me, but people. And so now she

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Speaker 1: still doesn't want to be seen because of whatever is

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Speaker 1: ailing her. Okay, let's say number two, she has something

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Speaker 1: worse wrong with her, God forbid, and she is in

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Speaker 1: many ways the glowing face of the monarch. It's not Camilla,

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Speaker 1: it's certainly not Charles. He's not Queen Elizabeth. William doesn't

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Speaker 1: have the same charisma that we saw with Diana, and

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Speaker 1: that the woman in that family seems to be the

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Speaker 1: shining beacon of hope. So let's pretend that she has

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Speaker 1: something worse wrong. And they are not ready to say

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Speaker 1: forward facing aspect of the monarchy is the monarchy. Let's

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Speaker 1: say that they're having some marital issues or something happened.

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Speaker 1: She has some sort of leverage and she's not willing

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Speaker 2: Is is resolved.

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Speaker 1: Do we feel like we are owed an explanation for

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Speaker 1: what exactly is wrong with her medically if there is something,

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Speaker 2: Royal family in place.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of talk about Harry and Meghan remained

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Speaker 1: had they not left, they would be doing performing the

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Speaker 2: So that's an interesting dynamic as well.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know if you can go home again

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Speaker 1: that would be frothy and frenzied. The fact remains that

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Speaker 1: the question is should everybody know everything about anyone in power?

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Speaker 1: Is that what people, well, I would say, sign up for,

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Speaker 2: This is what they were born into.

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Speaker 1: So you're born into that, no matter what happens to you,

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Speaker 1: And I think the answer is no. They have so

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Speaker 1: and then that shows that not everything is what it seems.

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Speaker 1: But I think that not everything is what it seems

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Speaker 2: It's us.

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Speaker 1: They say, he who makes the gold makes the rules,

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Speaker 2: Because Queen Elizabeth made the rules.

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Speaker 1: and it's not Camilla that has any sort of public power,

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Speaker 1: Princess Kate has the heaviest crown of them all. She's

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Speaker 1: And if anything has been happening in her marriage that

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Speaker 3: She has all the power.

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Speaker 1: She has the leverage because she is completely needed. She

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Speaker 1: be an interesting post nup. I am watching the greatest

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Speaker 1: Love Story Never told, the Jennifer Lopez documentary about the

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Speaker 2: I'm feeling it.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to say, honestly, I am feeling it.

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Speaker 1: I am giving it to her like she is makeup free,

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Speaker 1: I'm not even sure that she's Jenny from the block.

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Speaker 1: and I'm just I can't even tell you that when

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Speaker 2: And when she got back together with Jen.

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Speaker 1: Like it was a headline to me, and it was,

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Speaker 1: They're the We know them as the lyrics they sing

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Speaker 1: I don't get the sense that we're being served anything.

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Speaker 1: I get the sense that she had cameras, took it seriously.

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Speaker 1: She did this twenty million dollar project that she wanted

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Speaker 2: In the spectacle. She's part of the spectacle.

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Speaker 1: I really don't think he wants to go to the

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying, I'm watching this, I'm seeing her cry

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Speaker 1: And they kind of explained that a lot of people

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Speaker 1: And I get that because Ben wrote all these letters

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Speaker 2: She also wants us to know she's not.

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Speaker 1: You know, the flaw, the flawed, hopeless romantic that can't

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Speaker 1: And Ben, you know, he's been through his own journey

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