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Speaker 3: Yes, I've been waiting. I have literally literally been waiting

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Speaker 2: Meanwhile, I'm like on the phone with like my coo

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Speaker 3: So the entire world changed this weekend for an ambition family.

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Speaker 3: If you were under a rock or someone knocked you out,

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Speaker 3: whole new world. It is twenty sixteen, Part two point zero.

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Speaker 3: Beyonce has changed lives. She's come out with her She

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Speaker 3: came out with her news signal a single on Saturday

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Speaker 2: And it was at like four pm, right on Saturday,

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Speaker 3: Yes, it was about four pm. I was just mine

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Speaker 3: It was Beyonce dropping a new video. This video, I've

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Speaker 3: probably watched it and maybe a dozen times, which is

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Speaker 3: probably being conservative. I've watched it because there's just so

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Speaker 1: There is so much.

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Speaker 3: Maybe it's just because I studied literature in college and

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Speaker 3: I was like super nerdy and we would just spend

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Speaker 2: Yes, of first of all, you said easter eggs, which

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Speaker 2: is freaking hilarou. Did we even introduce ourselves? Do we

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Speaker 3: I mean they know already this is this Mandy. I

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Speaker 1: This is Ciffany. I talk like this.

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Speaker 3: I love it. You know what, like people are like

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Speaker 3: red lobster, but like red lobster. What is this about

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Speaker 3: it's like hot sauce, Hot sauce, What illuminati.

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Speaker 2: About those white people that we put hot sauce at

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Speaker 3: She's sitting on top of a cop car, but the

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Speaker 3: the cop car. But then she's wearing like Victorian Night,

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Speaker 1: There was so much to digest.

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Speaker 2: And then she was slaying all that boobies in the

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Speaker 1: It just was It was a lot.

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Speaker 3: I thought there were so many elements, but before we

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Speaker 3: the internet before the superal even happens. Yes, so she

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Speaker 1: And I heard the football regalia, no less.

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Speaker 3: this Beyonce slayage. But first I wanted to bring we want.

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Speaker 3: I've loved Beyonce since Destiny's child. Tiffany loves Beyonce too.

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Speaker 3: Well a special guest today. I'm pretty sure she's on

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Speaker 3: the most wanted list for the Agency. Oh god, this

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Speaker 3: is my really good friend, Jessica O'Neill. Jessica, you trying

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Speaker 4: There you go.

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Speaker 3: So I have to have Jess on, because Jess is

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Speaker 3: But I want to have Jessica on because not only

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Speaker 3: I mean, you obviously are entitled to your opinion just

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Speaker 4: Yes, well it's not that it's black and dark. I

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Speaker 5: I just feel like, especially at this interday age, she

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Speaker 3: Yes, just tell me what was your first impression of

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Speaker 5: You know, this is one thing I think particular of

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Speaker 5: I did watch this video and I was pretty open

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Speaker 3: She hasn't had interviews right in the last couple of

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and they don't listen to her.

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Speaker 5: So I was actually kind of a little proud to

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Speaker 5: I was looking at this video and then I started

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Speaker 4: Beyonce, Now that's me painting.

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Speaker 5: But and then I was listening to the lyrics and

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Speaker 4: And then I was like, Okay, now I don't know

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Speaker 5: Felt all those things. But then I just the lyrics

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Speaker 2: I feel like I mean, well, one I think that,

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Speaker 2: So we're not looking for Beyonce, like, you know, to

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Speaker 4: And guess what, so do I like she's saying so much.

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Speaker 5: She tells you in the song that's that's what's getting

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Speaker 2: Crazy, like honestly, So okay, I'll give you an example.

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Speaker 2: So I had written this book, like my first book,

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Speaker 2: Like it's hard enough being a sister, and like, you know,

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Speaker 4: She leaves it to you. I feel as a pr tactic,

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Speaker 4: I'm never going to take that away from her. I

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Speaker 5: But you know, now you have all these people coming

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Speaker 4: I'm not that ignorant. This is not a copayting song.

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Speaker 2: I have some friends of mine who will write, you know,

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Speaker 2: I just know that as an artist, you know that

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Speaker 1: It means this.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's the reason why how many hundreds of years

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Speaker 1: I think that I don't know. I feel like there

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Speaker 2: Of thoughts when it comes to tuting your own horn.

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Speaker 2: You know, do you have the people who are like,

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Speaker 2: And unless I tell them and shove it down their

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Speaker 2: And so I understand the frustration of like, no, I'm

439
00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:53,200
Speaker 2: gonna say I slagh because if I don't.

440
00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:55,520
Speaker 1: It's my work is not gonna just speak for itself,

441
00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:58,080
Speaker 1: not as a black woman, because it just doesn't.

442
00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:01,119
Speaker 2: Yes, maybe to my other brown sister it does, but

443
00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:03,480
Speaker 2: to the world that large, no, unless I shove it

444
00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:05,920
Speaker 2: down the world's throat, it doesn't speak for itself because

445
00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:06,800
Speaker 2: people will ignore.

446
00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:10,000
Speaker 1: And so I put I position myself not to be ignored.

447
00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:12,480
Speaker 2: There is a place for humility, and there is also

448
00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:16,480
Speaker 2: a place for demanding acknowledgement.

449
00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:20,760
Speaker 5: You know, Yeah, I'm sorry. I think there's definitely ways

450
00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:24,080
Speaker 5: you can do that. I don't know. I'm like that

451
00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:26,639
Speaker 5: old school media person and I grew up with around

452
00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:29,159
Speaker 5: Oprah Woodfrey that was like on all the time, and

453
00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:31,520
Speaker 5: I just look so much to her, and no, she's

454
00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:35,000
Speaker 5: not done everything perfect either, but I just have felt like, yeah,

455
00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:37,480
Speaker 5: she definitely put her brand on everything. That's why she

456
00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:40,040
Speaker 5: has a magazine with her name on it, and you know,

457
00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:42,560
Speaker 5: she definitely hypes her brand and that is why she

458
00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:45,120
Speaker 5: got successful. I don't know, I just see so much

459
00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:47,679
Speaker 5: more I mean, just a little bit more pause with her.

460
00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:49,680
Speaker 4: I just see a little bit more reverence I just see.

461
00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:52,639
Speaker 5: Her just not having to always say I slay, I slay,

462
00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:55,240
Speaker 5: I slay in every song, or just you know, making sure.

463
00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:58,000
Speaker 5: I mean they're gonna say that anyway about us. I think,

464
00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:00,959
Speaker 5: what Beyonce doesn't really have to do that anymore. And

465
00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:04,439
Speaker 5: I think when you get to that certain level, it's okay.

466
00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:06,400
Speaker 5: At this point, I want her to evolve. I want

467
00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:07,840
Speaker 5: her to be great. I want her to keep being

468
00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:10,679
Speaker 5: this great icon she is. But I don't know. I

469
00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:13,240
Speaker 5: think it's getting a little tired to me sometimes and

470
00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:16,680
Speaker 5: she keeps putting out the same message over and over again.

471
00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:19,399
Speaker 4: I think from Beyonce.

472
00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:21,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to point out one thing real quick.

473
00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:24,040
Speaker 3: Did you guys notice the cameo in this video that

474
00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:25,800
Speaker 3: it was Big Frida? Yes?

475
00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:26,040
Speaker 1: What?

476
00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:27,639
Speaker 2: As soon as the voice came on, I said, I

477
00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:30,280
Speaker 2: know that's not Big Frida. I know that is not

478
00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:32,840
Speaker 2: It was like the most So.

479
00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:36,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, how's familiar do you think Black America is with

480
00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:36,600
Speaker 5: Big Frida?

481
00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:39,840
Speaker 3: Not familiar enough? But I think if you're from New Orleans,

482
00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:41,720
Speaker 3: what you know Big Frida?

483
00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:43,199
Speaker 1: So you know what I like about it.

484
00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:46,080
Speaker 2: It's almost like how she used me mom Nigerian and

485
00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:47,520
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna be able to say her name correctly.

486
00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:48,120
Speaker 1: She Amanda.

487
00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:51,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know how like so she didn't she didn't say,

488
00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:53,919
Speaker 2: hey guys, this is she Amanda.

489
00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,680
Speaker 1: What I like is that it's like you had to dig.

490
00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:58,439
Speaker 2: And do research because she knew people would and she

491
00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:00,680
Speaker 2: knew people would have got we're gonna on earth who

492
00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:03,160
Speaker 2: this person was? And I felt like, not that I'm

493
00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:05,280
Speaker 2: comparing Big Freeda shee and moan, I mean, but you know,

494
00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:06,320
Speaker 2: but I'm just.

495
00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:06,919
Speaker 1: Saying that.

496
00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:12,160
Speaker 2: It allowed for people to dig and say, who is

497
00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:12,800
Speaker 2: Big Frieda?

498
00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:13,800
Speaker 1: Who's this voice?

499
00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,359
Speaker 2: And when as soon as I heard it, I was like, yes,

500
00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:20,280
Speaker 2: because Big Freeda is amazing, Oh my gosh, And so yeah,

501
00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:23,440
Speaker 2: I just love that she she you know, she used

502
00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:27,320
Speaker 2: her voice, you know, and and I don't know, introduced

503
00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:30,800
Speaker 2: her to mainstream, you know, And so I don't know, to.

504
00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:32,920
Speaker 3: Have a to have someone on her single, I think,

505
00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:35,520
Speaker 3: is this the first? I mean, Big Frida is a

506
00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:37,919
Speaker 3: drag queen, right, am I getting that wrong? I don't know,

507
00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:41,040
Speaker 3: She's like, yeah, she's But I wanted to get this

508
00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:44,280
Speaker 3: right because I feel like it's in a hip hop

509
00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:45,320
Speaker 3: arm like whatever you.

510
00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:45,639
Speaker 4: Want to call it.

511
00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:48,040
Speaker 3: I know, Beyonce's pop hip hop. But then this like

512
00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:52,200
Speaker 3: really hard song to have a musician who is from

513
00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:57,200
Speaker 3: the LGBTQA society and from that group of people to

514
00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:00,280
Speaker 3: feature them so prominently on a record that's huge feel

515
00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,440
Speaker 3: like in black music. I mean, am I wrong here?

516
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:04,919
Speaker 3: And not just that, I felt like the super Bowl

517
00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:07,560
Speaker 3: even had like a lot the message of yesterday's super

518
00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:10,520
Speaker 3: Bowl was like, I mean, everything was rainbow and colors,

519
00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:12,199
Speaker 3: and like, if you're going to be like taking at

520
00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:14,560
Speaker 3: face value, it's you know, people were waving rainbow flags.

521
00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:16,960
Speaker 3: It was very much like a you know, accepting of

522
00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:19,359
Speaker 3: gay culture sort of moment. And I don't know, I

523
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:21,760
Speaker 3: really respect her putting something like that on her album.

524
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:25,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I think it's I mean, this is

525
00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:27,480
Speaker 5: me just better help out of it. I'm gonna sound

526
00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:31,040
Speaker 5: like negative Nancy. I just it's twenty sixteen. I don't

527
00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:32,520
Speaker 5: think it's that innovative at this point.

528
00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:33,359
Speaker 4: I'm serious.

529
00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:36,720
Speaker 5: I was gay.

530
00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:38,560
Speaker 3: They don't think the same, Yeah, they don't.

531
00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:40,760
Speaker 4: I guess everything she says. It's so big and loud,

532
00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:42,560
Speaker 4: and she's the first black person to do it. I

533
00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:44,800
Speaker 4: mean it's fine, I get it. It's just you.

534
00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:48,440
Speaker 5: Know, I think it's great, and I think it's awesome. Sure,

535
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:50,320
Speaker 5: maybe she will put Big Freedo on a map. Maybe

536
00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:52,800
Speaker 5: she won't, but yeah, I don't.

537
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,440
Speaker 4: I don't know. I think it's it's one of those things.

538
00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:57,600
Speaker 5: It's a little overblown to me, But okay, great, you

539
00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:58,360
Speaker 5: know it's awesome.

540
00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:02,000
Speaker 3: Technically, I think she's non conforming. She's I'm a gay male,

541
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 3: I wear women's hair and carry a purse. You guys

542
00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:06,200
Speaker 3: just got to see her and listen to what she does.

543
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:10,159
Speaker 3: She has a web a web series on Fusion Okay,

544
00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:13,040
Speaker 3: where is it Fuse? What's it called Fuse or fusion

545
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:14,919
Speaker 3: dot net? Where she has a web series. I think

546
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:16,480
Speaker 3: it's in like it's fourth or fifth season.

547
00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:19,240
Speaker 2: I saw she's But she's also on TV, like I've seen,

548
00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:20,960
Speaker 2: like if you go to New York, like you'll see

549
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:23,479
Speaker 2: like bill big billboards of her. She's I've seen her

550
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:26,159
Speaker 2: show on I remember when I went to New Orleans,

551
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:30,040
Speaker 2: I wanted to go to like a bounce like party

552
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:33,439
Speaker 2: just to see because it's just the music is just like,

553
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,000
Speaker 2: I mean, you can't sit still, and she just has

554
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 2: like she's just so charismatic, and I don't know, her

555
00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,080
Speaker 2: show is just really it just shows her and her

556
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,600
Speaker 2: team kind of traveling the world bringing Bounce to the world.

557
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:47,359
Speaker 3: But she though she does slay quite honestly, she because

558
00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:49,119
Speaker 3: if she don't slay, you get eliminated.

559
00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:51,800
Speaker 2: No, Yeah, she slays, and she just and I just

560
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,639
Speaker 2: love that she slays unapologetically, cause Big Free is like

561
00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:55,920
Speaker 2: six two sixty four.

562
00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:58,239
Speaker 1: She's a big, big man, you know.

563
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:00,679
Speaker 2: And so and then you see this big man in

564
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:02,800
Speaker 2: like a snatched.

565
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:03,720
Speaker 1: Wig and a beat.

566
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:07,640
Speaker 2: Face and like yelling into a mike, you know, giving

567
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 2: people instructions on and how to bounce, and you're like,

568
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:11,879
Speaker 2: wait a minute, now, I'm not sure what's happening, but

569
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:15,399
Speaker 2: my booty is moving, you know, And so I don't know.

570
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:16,960
Speaker 2: I just thought that was dope. But let's talk about

571
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:18,560
Speaker 2: other elements of the video that we were.

572
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:21,360
Speaker 3: Like, yes, oh man, I was gonna wrap it up.

573
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:23,160
Speaker 5: Okay, well I'll be in half an hour.

574
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:28,520
Speaker 2: Well obviously, like you know, like just seeing Blue Ivy

575
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 2: and I just love to see like, okay, yes, and

576
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:32,600
Speaker 2: her hair still not comb with backup dancer's.

577
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:34,679
Speaker 3: Blue Ivy had backup dancers.

578
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:36,840
Speaker 2: People were mad because they were like, how come her

579
00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 2: backup dancers were dark skin? But if they were light skin,

580
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:40,840
Speaker 2: they would have said, how come her backup dancers are

581
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:41,280
Speaker 2: light skin?

582
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,720
Speaker 4: Golley, this is the one question I did want to

583
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:46,879
Speaker 4: ask about. Like the hair. I don't know.

584
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 5: I do have sometimes these things about black women and

585
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 5: weave and hair, and I know everybody's really excited about

586
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:55,560
Speaker 5: the Black Panthers and the Afros, Like Beyonce kind.

587
00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 4: Of still did her wee thing. What do you think

588
00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:00,400
Speaker 4: about that? The way she does like her thing.

589
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:00,800
Speaker 2: I don't know.

590
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:02,159
Speaker 4: I would always like to kind.

591
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,440
Speaker 5: Of see her in a lovely wig or something like that,

592
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 5: in natural hair.

593
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:07,680
Speaker 4: For some reason, I don't know, I feel like she

594
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:11,480
Speaker 4: will like they played they I mean, they're playing dress

595
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:13,520
Speaker 4: up she like you know, she is too. I just

596
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 4: feel like.

597
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,639
Speaker 5: These are always these things that I'm just always fascinated

598
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 5: about when it comes to her. Likes very calculated yeah,

599
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:23,439
Speaker 5: like she's very natural hair, yeah, or just like she

600
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 5: doesn't do I mean, we are very big into these

601
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:28,240
Speaker 5: elements of things, and she just kind of pick pockets

602
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:31,200
Speaker 5: where she wants to or just like you know, it's

603
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:33,680
Speaker 5: I don't know.

604
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:37,240
Speaker 3: Kinda yes, I know, yeah, I mean I think it's

605
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,920
Speaker 3: a practical thing she wears. You see her with a

606
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,199
Speaker 3: big blonde hair like you're going to see her in

607
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,440
Speaker 3: that seat of people, She's going to stand out as

608
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 3: a star. But also I feel like she's I've seen

609
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 3: her her every which way I've seen her. I've seen

610
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:51,680
Speaker 3: her with braids or long I mean, she just keeps

611
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:52,880
Speaker 3: transforming herself, and that's.

612
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:56,480
Speaker 2: In the video she had the long braids, and I

613
00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:58,560
Speaker 2: don't know, I just feel like, honestly, like I know,

614
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 2: I kind of picked. I mean, I'm natural, but I

615
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 2: don't necessarily like I don't. I mean, there's definitely elements

616
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 2: to me that have some afro centricity, but then I

617
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 2: also have some ratchetness and then I'm also, you know,

618
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 2: business owner. I don't know.

619
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,360
Speaker 1: So I just feel like nobody's all one thing.

620
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:14,640
Speaker 2: And then if she would have went full fred fledged,

621
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 2: you know, like you know, kinky afro and all the

622
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 2: other stuff, people would have been mad. I don't know.

623
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 2: I feel like, you know, it's so crazy. I think

624
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,720
Speaker 2: when I see like someone like Beyonce, I think to myself, sheesh,

625
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 2: you know, with my little business, sometimes it gets frustrating

626
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,880
Speaker 2: because everyone always has an opinion, and I can only

627
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 2: imagine at like Beyonce level, like what you know, everyone

628
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,200
Speaker 2: always having an opinion, and maybe that's one of the

629
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 2: reasons why she reserves from from from sharing her so much,

630
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,359
Speaker 2: is because no matter what she does, Beyonce could literally sneeze.

631
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 1: If he could be, people would be like, see that's

632
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 1: the bullshit right there. She always sneeze in it's a

633
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:48,919
Speaker 1: problem like.

634
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:57,200
Speaker 3: If I'm Jackson five no true and the country.

635
00:27:58,400 --> 00:27:59,679
Speaker 1: But yeah, I guess we could wrap that up.

636
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 2: But yes, So all in all, it was definitely a

637
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 2: Beyonce weekend and either way you love it or hate it,

638
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 2: but you talked about it.

639
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 3: It was the Beyonce Bowl featuring some football teams and

640
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 3: Bruno Mars and Christi.

641
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:26,680
Speaker 1: They were really good.

642
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 5: It was called the Broncos. They're great, they're Super Bowl champs.

643
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 3: That's a good segue actually, because I wanted to briefly

644
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 3: discuss the controversy around the quarterback for the Carolina Panthers,

645
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 3: Cam Newton. So apparently after his terrible heartbreaking loss to

646
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 3: the Broncos and Peyton Manning, Cam was you know how

647
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 3: they after those horrible interviews after they lose a game

648
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 3: and tell reporters like what they did wrong and just

649
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 3: revisit all those wounds which are so fresh and oozing,

650
00:28:56,600 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 3: so he was super he was giving like Monosteleba answers.

651
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 3: He got up and left like two three minutes into

652
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,479
Speaker 3: the interview, and then all of a sudden, there's all

653
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 3: these think pieces on what an ungrateful brat he is

654
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 3: and what a teenager he was acting like. And I

655
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 3: don't know. To me, I feel like he's twenty six

656
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 3: years old. He's very young. He just lost the biggest

657
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 3: game of his life and he wants to be upset.

658
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 3: I mean, if I miss a train, I'm hope and

659
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 3: I'm like grumbling, like I don't want to do an

660
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 3: interview for miss a train, so why are.

661
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Speaker 4: We But this is yeah, I think, but it's not

662
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 4: your job though, to miss that train. This is his job.

663
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Speaker 5: He is making millions of dollars. He is in front

664
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Speaker 5: of press since he has been like now what probably

665
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 5: eighteen nineteen, since he started on like what when he

666
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 5: was with us, Like he he knows this deal. He

667
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 5: kind of was a soort loser yesterday and it's his

668
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 5: he's I think we've discussed this before, but he That's

669
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 5: what leadership is in the football world.

670
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 4: This is important. You are the quarterback of the team.

671
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 5: They are looking to you for guy, I didn't they

672
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 5: need you to be the one to hold your head

673
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 5: up at the press conference ensure this was the press conferences.

674
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 5: Was kind of colliding with another player. They said, that's

675
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 5: why he was offended or whatnot.

676
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 4: I don't care.

677
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 5: Cam, you know, get it together, breathe answer a few questions.

678
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 5: You don't have to answer all of them. I mean,

679
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 5: I think it does say something to be a professional

680
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 5: in these circumstances. I mean that's why people were kind

681
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 5: of like I and Steph Curry when he brought his

682
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 5: little daughter out the press conference. Yeah, a little in professional.

683
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 5: They're asking stupid questions. Sure, but now do your job,

684
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 5: go home. You know, it's that's what you do.

685
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 1: Well, you know, you know.

686
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 3: I want to bring this in on a personal level,

687
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 3: like what are some because we've all sort of dealt

688
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 3: with failures in our career. I'm just assuming. I mean,

689
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 3: I know I've had some big failures in my career.

690
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 3: I wonder like if you all want to talk about

691
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 3: any and how you handled in that moment, whether you're

692
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 3: proud of it or not. I put you on the

693
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 3: spots and you want me I can start what's up? Yeah,

694
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 3: people constantly ask me to relive this moment. So I

695
00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 3: am a reporter, and a lot of what I do

696
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 3: is talk to people about different story a different like

697
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 3: personal finance journeys. You know, I paid off this much

698
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 3: debt and I, you know, paid for this with this

699
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 3: much money or whatnot. And I love those sorts of stories.

700
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 3: And about a year ago, someone reached out to me

701
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 3: and told me he had earned a saved a million

702
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 3: dollars by age twenty seven, and he had an entire

703
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 3: website and he had all these graphs and charts showing

704
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 3: how much he had saved and where it came from,

705
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 3: and here's how all the math worked out. And I

706
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 3: was super excited because he you know, he wasn't like

707
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 3: this overnight success. You know, you hear like people who

708
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 3: lost one hundred pounds in a week and people who

709
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 3: saved a million dollars in a month, like he had

710
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 3: been working since he was a teenager and just told

711
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 3: me this sob story about his parents dying and they

712
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,959
Speaker 3: didn't teach him anything and blah blah blah. And anyway,

713
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 3: so I write the story, and like a few it

714
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 3: becomes one of the biggest stories on the website. And

715
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 3: like a week later, one of his friends reaches out

716
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 3: to me and he's like, so this guy has admitted

717
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 3: to line about everything like a Facebook post, and it

718
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 3: was just like the it was like my whole entire

719
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 3: world just like fell out from beneath my feet, and

720
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:11,959
Speaker 3: it was a huge failure on my part, and I

721
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 3: think the I'm proud of myself and that the first

722
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 3: thing I did was email everyone you know in my

723
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 3: on the editorial team and say, we got to pull this.

724
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 3: We gotta you know, we have to face this. We

725
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 3: have to figure out what I'm gonna do. And we

726
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 3: immediately like wrote this like explanation and retraction and that

727
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 3: kind of stuff. But that was like a super useful, embarrassing,

728
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 3: horrible lesson that I learned, and it made me ashamed

729
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 3: because I have studied to be a journalist. I went

730
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 3: to a great school, I had great teachers, I've been

731
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 3: it's not my first day on the job, and it

732
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 3: was just a reminder that I'm just a susceptible to

733
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 3: that pressure to turn out the big stories and that

734
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 3: pressure to turn out stories faster and faster and get

735
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 3: those clicks.

736
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Speaker 5: But luckily I don't actually handled that tell you the truth,

737
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 5: I thought, very well, because you know you and your staff.

738
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 5: I think you put out a nice article, like you

739
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 5: put out a retraction about it, and you apologize for it,

740
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 5: and yeah, I think you actually handled that with dignity

741
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 5: and to your best ability. And you're still writing stories,

742
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 5: you know, and the Yahoo comments can get kind of

743
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 5: you know, Kronk.

744
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 4: I've definitely read them, but you know, it's.

745
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 3: So hard to admit you were wrong, especially when, like

746
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 3: like literally a day before I found out it was

747
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 3: all a lie. I had gotten like a standing ovation

748
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 3: at the morning meeting, like like Nandy's the best, and

749
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 3: I was like, yes, I am the best. I slay

750
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 3: and then you fall from that, you know. It was

751
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 3: it was so humbling, like I am constantly being humbled

752
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 3: by my own humanity, like you know, but like Beyonce

753
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 3: yesterday when she almost fell but then didn't fall, I

754
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 3: must have the strength to carry on.

755
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 2: Oh god, It's like I'm going to think my biggest well,

756
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 2: maybe my most embarrassing was like my very first I

757
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 2: got books from my very speaking engagement. It was like

758
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 2: for it was a nursing home or something sort of

759
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 2: like hospital, something to that effect. It's a medical care facility,

760
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 2: and I don't know how they found me, but they

761
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 2: wanted to pay me like three hundred bucks to speak

762
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:14,799
Speaker 2: for an hour. And I mean then I had I

763
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 2: wasn't even making fifty bucks to speak, so I could

764
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 2: not believe someone was actually gonna pay me. I was

765
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:21,400
Speaker 2: so excited. I took it to Twitter, because you know,

766
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 2: that's what that's what you do.

767
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:25,280
Speaker 1: I took it to Twitter.

768
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 2: This is literally like five years ago, and I wrote,

769
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:33,839
Speaker 2: I quote end quotes, oh my god, I just got

770
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 2: booked to speak at like said the organization and everything.

771
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 2: I mean, like, I can't even believe I did this,

772
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 2: you know whatever x y Z organization in Clifton, New Jersey,

773
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 2: COMMA and they're paying me doctor rates.

774
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 1: End quote.

775
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 2: Oh that's what.

776
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 4: Yo.

777
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:56,320
Speaker 2: I And I just was so excited and I wasn't

778
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 2: I don't know why I wrote. I mean, I know

779
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 2: I wrote it because I was honestly, I wrote it

780
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:01,839
Speaker 2: mostly out of shock because I was like, I can't

781
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 2: believe someone is actually gonna pay me to do this

782
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 2: thing I just made up. And I just you know,

783
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 2: and I didn't really understand social media back then, because

784
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 2: mostly it was just my it was my friends who

785
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 2: like I literally had like maybe like twenty thirty followers

786
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 2: and it was just my friends, you know. And so

787
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 2: my friends were like, yeah, it was basically I thought

788
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 2: about it like as group text. You know, that's the

789
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:21,720
Speaker 2: kind of thing that you key key with your friends

790
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:23,759
Speaker 2: behind the scenes. So I'm like, oh, let me group

791
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 2: text my friends via Twitter.

792
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 1: And so they were all like, yes, you got it,

793
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 1: do it? Do you know what?

794
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 2: Within I don't even know, maybe a few hours I

795
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 2: got an email with a screenshot of my tweets.

796
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 1: Well like, yeah, so what we're not going to do

797
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 1: is hire you.

798
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 2: And because like this is a I forget, it was

799
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 2: a you know, we have private information at this facility,

800
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 2: and we'd worry that you would not use your best

801
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 2: judgment and might share things that you might not you know,

802
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 2: you're not supposed to, you know, if you speak for

803
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,319
Speaker 2: us whatever, Like let's just say a patient asks a

804
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 2: sensitive question, I might tweet it out or whatever. And

805
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,399
Speaker 2: I couldn't believe it was like such a humbling when

806
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 2: I say humbling. And then of course the next day

807
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 2: I was like at a at an event and the

808
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 2: woman who had hired me was there, and I had

809
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,400
Speaker 2: to humble myself and go up to her, and I

810
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 2: apologized profusely. I was like young, So she honestly was

811
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 2: so gracious about it. She said, Honestly, Tiffany, you know

812
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:23,720
Speaker 2: I've talked to you before.

813
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 1: I think you're amazing.

814
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 2: I thought the tweet was funny, you know, because I

815
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,239
Speaker 2: know that you didn't you weren't thinking. She was like,

816
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 2: doctor Race was hilarious, but you know that you know

817
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 2: that you have to be careful of what you put

818
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 2: on social media. And I just told her I was

819
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 2: just so excited. I wasn't trying to be, you know,

820
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 2: like arrogant. Honestly, it's my first speaking I never got

821
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 2: booked before, so I couldn't believe it.

822
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:44,280
Speaker 1: It was more.

823
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 2: Shock and awe than arrogance and like bragging, you know.

824
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 1: It was like I can't believe it? Can you guys

825
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 1: believe it?

826
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 2: And she was just she was just so nice about it,

827
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:56,319
Speaker 2: and she said, I think you're gonna go far, you know,

828
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 2: but you know, just let that be a lesson. And honestly,

829
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 2: it was such a valuable and I'm glad I learned

830
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 2: it early because from then on, whenever anything has happened

831
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,719
Speaker 2: with any brand or anything that I've worked with, I

832
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:11,799
Speaker 2: always always ask can I share this before I share it?

833
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 2: And usually I get them kind of like a preview.

834
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 2: Can I share this and say I'm here doing this?

835
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:18,760
Speaker 2: That's fine, Tiffany, So yeah, but it was the most

836
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 2: embarrassing can you imagine right screenshot? She said that they

837
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 2: screenshotted it and they were faxing it from office to

838
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 2: office to be like, who is this girl?

839
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,840
Speaker 3: No, I was like cringing that you can't see me,

840
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 3: but I'm my face is all screwed up, and I

841
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:35,799
Speaker 3: was telling me that. I'm just like, I mean, you

842
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 3: never want to be on the wrong side of social media.

843
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 3: I'm constantly worried, especially now I work someplace people actually

844
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 3: care what I say. Loud child, Well, he bounce back, Yeah.

845
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:52,400
Speaker 1: Exactly exactly. You know, like I said, I'm grateful, but

846
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 1: you said.

847
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,800
Speaker 3: Sorry, which is a huge deal, you know, confronting. I

848
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 3: think that's what some people do that gets them. Like

849
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 3: if I had, if you, if you have, or I

850
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 3: had just like put our heads in the sand and

851
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 3: then just like you know, legs or tail between our

852
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 3: legs and just like walked away kind of cowardly, Like

853
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 3: all that would do is just you would you wouldn't

854
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 3: forget on the inside, and you would constantly have that shame.

855
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 3: And I think by facing it head on, by like

856
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 3: saying sorry in person and just like getting the awkward

857
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 3: moment over with, that really helps.

858
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was very good. She actually did that as well.

859
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,799
Speaker 3: Jess, I know you are a special guest. Do you

860
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 3: want to share your failure with us or do you

861
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 3: want to special.

862
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 4: My special failure?

863
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 5: Well, I will say with my one of my first

864
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 5: jobs here in New York, I worked at a food

865
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 5: service company and this just this was just a great lesson.

866
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 5: I'm like I would say, learning how important even the

867
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 5: little things that.

868
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:42,359
Speaker 4: Your job are.

869
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 5: So one of the first things I got to do

870
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:47,799
Speaker 5: at this new job at this food service company, we

871
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 5: worked with schools basically just a little background and the

872
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 5: goal we'd like served them breakfast, lunch, and dinner. And

873
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 5: so one of the things that my job was in

874
00:38:57,560 --> 00:38:59,799
Speaker 5: this role was to make sure the scheduling was done.

875
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 5: It was literally just putting things in the calendar, like

876
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 5: school calendars when it's closed, when it's open. And I

877
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 5: was priding myself, like all young morons of how like

878
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 5: fast I was of putting things in the computer and

879
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:14,959
Speaker 5: just making sure everything was scheduled and you know, doing

880
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 5: this and doing that, and just going home at five

881
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:21,399
Speaker 5: point thirty and just being proud of myself. But you know, then,

882
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 5: you know, my boss was kind of in and out

883
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 5: with vacation and meetings and stuff, so I never got

884
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 5: to see her, and she didn't get a chance to

885
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 5: look over my work like I thought. But I thought

886
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 5: I was banging it out doing awesome. So yeah, I

887
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 5: kind of missed a change in schedule for one of

888
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 5: my schools. And next thing I know, I got a

889
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:43,360
Speaker 5: call from home and they're like, hey, these are the

890
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 5: correct closures, right, And people were relying on me.

891
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 4: We're a small company, and I was like, yeah, this

892
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,799
Speaker 4: is all good. We're fine. So next thing I know,

893
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 4: when I got into work, they're like, Jessica, the school

894
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 4: was open. And this sounds really kind of like hump.

895
00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:00,880
Speaker 5: But so because I did not put one thing in

896
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:03,279
Speaker 5: the calendar, and because I was just banging it out

897
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:05,320
Speaker 5: and not really looking over my work, not really putting

898
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 5: so much care in it, so about this whole school

899
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:11,319
Speaker 5: probably missed breakfast. So these are like and I had

900
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 5: to really kind of think about my job in a

901
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:16,760
Speaker 5: way and really put in perspective. Because we serve healthy

902
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 5: food for these kids, because we give them free and

903
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:22,919
Speaker 5: reduced lunch, this might be one of the very few

904
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 5: meals these.

905
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 4: Kids get all day.

906
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:27,759
Speaker 5: This was a kid in the Scout South Bronx and

907
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 5: this kid this sounds so ridiculous, but it is actually

908
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:34,400
Speaker 5: a very true story. They might have not gotten dinner

909
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:39,319
Speaker 5: that night and was expecting that breakfast. And because I

910
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 5: was just kind of thinking so willy nilly about her

911
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:43,840
Speaker 5: and just thinking, this is just a little blimp just

912
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:48,320
Speaker 5: putting in something into my computer. It's not anything that's thinking,

913
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:50,760
Speaker 5: that's something you should just, you know, really look twice

914
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:54,839
Speaker 5: at girl. I think I cried for two weeks. I

915
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 5: apologized to that school and I just felt so terrible

916
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 5: because it was just I was just looking over you

917
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 5: best believe. After that, I just looked at every schedule

918
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 5: was so much care and love. Like I looked at

919
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:08,360
Speaker 5: these schedules three or four times a day, and you know,

920
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 5: and I think, what other thing that happened. I had

921
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 5: a wonderful director of operations at the time. You had

922
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 5: to pull me back and like actually had to say

923
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 5: that you know, this is I know. It felt really bad.

924
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:20,240
Speaker 5: But you know, you got to look at these schools

925
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 5: and what we do as a service.

926
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 4: And just you know, take more. You have pride in

927
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,880
Speaker 4: your job, but really take pride in your work.

928
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:32,359
Speaker 5: And now again, like some people think I'm a bit

929
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 5: of a hard ass at my current job, but no,

930
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 5: I even saying in terms of making sure something is

931
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:40,959
Speaker 5: properly dated, making sure all your data is correct, making

932
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 5: sure you're giving me your correct client records, things like that,

933
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 5: I do look for it to be well done because

934
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:50,840
Speaker 5: people do depend on you, and you know, yeah, and

935
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:53,720
Speaker 5: I think that is probably one of those biggest failures.

936
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:55,359
Speaker 5: And I was able to kind of bounce back from

937
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:57,319
Speaker 5: it and think about it and really kind of look

938
00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 5: at it holistically, and that was pretty well day for me.

939
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 4: But so yeah, that's if I could share that with

940
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 4: the world.

941
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:06,919
Speaker 3: Thanks for sharing that. I know that must be hard.

942
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:09,319
Speaker 3: It's hard to look back at the stuff you did wrong.

943
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 3: But I don't know, I feel kind of good about

944
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 3: this talking about what we learned from it. It sounds

945
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:16,319
Speaker 3: like each of us in that situation had someone like

946
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 3: I had an editor who didn't fire me. I had Tiffany.

947
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:22,400
Speaker 3: You talk to the person who you know you know,

948
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 3: let you go from a gig right afterwards, who gave

949
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 3: you a you know, told you what is okay, You're

950
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 3: going to survive and then Jess you had your director

951
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 3: sort of you know, give you a break too. I

952
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 3: just feel like, yeah, I feel like you need someone

953
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 3: who knows that you will make a human error, like

954
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 3: a boss or someone higher than you, a mentor or

955
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:42,840
Speaker 3: some kind too, to give you that break and remind

956
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 3: you not to be so hard on yourself. Sometimes we

957
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 3: all make mistakes.

958
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, so that's why I want Cam to kind of

959
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 5: man up and just take.

960
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 3: Bringing it back to football.

961
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 4: I guess yes, No, I mean, I know it feels.

962
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 5: I know people are really like, we were really rooted

963
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:57,719
Speaker 5: for Cam, you know, black quarterback.

964
00:42:57,760 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 4: You know, yes, he's kind of hip hop. He's getting criticiz.

965
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:02,880
Speaker 4: We wanted to do good and he and he failed yesterday,

966
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 4: he totally failed.

967
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 5: But I do think it says a lot about leadership

968
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 5: to really kind of step it up, especially with our

969
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 5: young black males today.

970
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 4: You know, we're gonna make mistakes. We are human.

971
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 5: Beyonce made a mistake, but that doesn't mean she's not

972
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 5: a great performer. That doesn't mean Cam it's not going

973
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:18,359
Speaker 5: to win another Super Bowl.

974
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 3: But you know mistake. I mean, you know, if you

975
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:23,359
Speaker 3: look at the footage of her almost falling, you could

976
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:27,799
Speaker 3: almost say it was choreography. I can just you know exactly. Oh,

977
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure you know she needs to clap like

978
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:35,400
Speaker 3: that's some those are strong legs. Likes that much body

979
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:38,319
Speaker 3: strength to make yourself not fall like that. Come on,

980
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 3: that is just like the gluteus maximus at full force.

981
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:44,239
Speaker 4: I totally see that.

982
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 1: I do.

983
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:48,240
Speaker 3: Yes, they well, Jess, thank you so much for joining

984
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 3: us on our special Beyonce edition of Brown Ambition.

985
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 4: Oh, thank you all for inviting me.

986
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 1: Yes, Jess, you are welcome.

987
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:57,239
Speaker 3: Its one eye open my so basic.

988
00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 1: You can find Jess at Just stop it, guy, I'm

989
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 1: actually good.

990
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 4: Please remember that. You know, if you want to attack me.

991
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 3: After that story, no one's gonna attack you. You're a

992
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 3: good human, all right, Yes, all right, guys. We'll hope

993
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:21,839
Speaker 3: you enjoyed our special Beyonce themed episode. If you want

994
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 3: to send any hate mail or love mail to us,

995
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 3: you can email us at Brown Ambition Podcast at gmail

996
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 3: dot com.

997
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:30,319
Speaker 1: We can tweet us at the BA Podcast.

998
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 3: We love it. So let's just jump We took so

999
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:36,320
Speaker 3: much time talking about Beyonce rightfully, So let's jump into

1000
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 3: a brown break real quick.

1001
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 2: Okay, some more brown break is pretty I mean it's

1002
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 2: kind of related slightly to this whole beyond thing. I

1003
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 2: don't know, I'm kind of taking a brown break from

1004
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:50,720
Speaker 2: fake deepness. Well I don't know if it's fake deepness,

1005
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:52,880
Speaker 2: but you know, there's just been so many think pieces,

1006
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 2: so many like, you know, like so much stuff as

1007
00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 2: it relates to Beyonce, Like well, the two girls who

1008
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 2: are behind Blue Ivy are dark skinned? Why and then

1009
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 2: if they weren't dark skin then it would be an issue?

1010
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:10,399
Speaker 2: Or like how come, like you know, like we talked

1011
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:13,800
Speaker 2: about earlier, how come Beyonce's didn't have the black curly

1012
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 2: afro wig on?

1013
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 1: Or I don't know.

1014
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:20,280
Speaker 2: Sometimes I'm just like, ugh, and as the world turns,

1015
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 2: you know, like I'm kind of over.

1016
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 1: I mean, I get it.

1017
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously Beyonce did this whole It's a very

1018
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:27,759
Speaker 2: strategic move to get us talking about race, which I appreciate.

1019
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 2: But there's just been so much that I think some

1020
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:32,720
Speaker 2: things are being analyzed that I'm.

1021
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:35,319
Speaker 1: Like, is it thing a thing to be analyzed? This

1022
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 1: thing right here?

1023
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 2: Like, you know, people were talking about, oh, the Black

1024
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:41,759
Speaker 2: Panthers weren't about over sexualization. How come you know they

1025
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 2: were wearing like the bathing suit things. And I'm like,

1026
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess I get it, but sometimes I'm

1027
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 2: just like, ugh, it's just too much, all of this

1028
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 2: over deep Facebook Facebook rant posting about you know, like

1029
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:57,440
Speaker 2: what you thought, like you know, the world has shifted

1030
00:45:57,480 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 2: now that Beyonce has a new video out and how

1031
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:01,880
Speaker 2: you know she is good or bad for the culture.

1032
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:03,839
Speaker 1: I'm a little bit slightly over it.

1033
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 2: Although I get it, I'm just going to take a

1034
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:09,280
Speaker 2: brown break from all that all that pieces, yes, think pieces,

1035
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 2: and all the Facebook pontifications.

1036
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 3: I respect that because it distracts from the larger like

1037
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 3: looking at the minutia, it just like distracts from the

1038
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 3: larger messages. Sometime I'm like her intention was on to

1039
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 3: guess talking about wigs and like Blue Ivy and her

1040
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 3: backup dancers again, yes you know, yes, did I mention

1041
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:28,800
Speaker 3: she had backup dancers? I'm sorry?

1042
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:29,800
Speaker 1: Sorry?

1043
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:30,360
Speaker 2: How old is she?

1044
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:30,799
Speaker 1: Like four?

1045
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:32,319
Speaker 4: All right?

1046
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 3: I loved it. She is going to be the future

1047
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 3: queen of America if she's not a first Lady or

1048
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:41,400
Speaker 3: not the first lady first, you know, the first African

1049
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 3: American president, female president. Then I don't know what's happening

1050
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 3: in the world.

1051
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 1: Now, lady had lost it. So what's your brown break?

1052
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 3: My brown break? I don't know if this is funny

1053
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 3: or serious, but you brought up something, you said something earlier,

1054
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 3: and it reminded me. I've been meaning to take a

1055
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:58,239
Speaker 3: brown break on this for a while. And it's the

1056
00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:02,239
Speaker 3: expression beat face, like getting your face beat and a

1057
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:02,840
Speaker 3: beat face.

1058
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 1: Oh God, I use that.

1059
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 3: I know you do. I know when so many women do,

1060
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 3: and like I have work with. I have the privilege

1061
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 3: of working with some really really great makeup artists here

1062
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 3: at my my work and through my job, and they

1063
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 3: say it sometimes and they'll put it on Twitter and

1064
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:22,840
Speaker 3: it's like a hashtag. I don't see how it's a

1065
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:26,759
Speaker 3: good thing. It's it makes me think of domestic violence.

1066
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 3: And I come from a family who's you know, women

1067
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:31,920
Speaker 3: whose faces were beat but not with makeup, with like

1068
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:34,360
Speaker 3: fists and stuff like that. I could see that, and

1069
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 3: it's just like the expression just makes me cringe. I

1070
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 3: don't know, I just don't like it. And I think

1071
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:40,320
Speaker 3: I Rihanna used it one time and I'm like thinking

1072
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 3: about her and her you know, you know, a woman's

1073
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:44,840
Speaker 3: free to use whatever she wants, like whatever phrase she

1074
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:46,840
Speaker 3: wants to use. But for me, it just makes me cringe,

1075
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 3: makes me feel like I don't want to beat face

1076
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 3: pretty face, like can you pretify my face?

1077
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:55,360
Speaker 2: But no, I know just and honestly, I think it

1078
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:58,359
Speaker 2: it comes from gay culture like most cool slang does,

1079
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 2: and black culture in particular, and like you know, like

1080
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:04,719
Speaker 2: just the light be and that's what I'm thinking. For

1081
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:06,399
Speaker 2: those of you who know are in the no, please

1082
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 2: let me know. But I think that's where it comes from.

1083
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:13,240
Speaker 2: And I'm not certain where the beat came from.

1084
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 1: But I don't know. I'm not gonna lie. I kind

1085
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 1: of like it just the light be.

1086
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 3: It just sounds.

1087
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 2: It just makes me feel like I'm in the know,

1088
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Speaker 2: because anybody who knows me knows how you slag from

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00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 2: nineteen eighty.

1090
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:27,359
Speaker 3: I'm like, dope, dope is back.

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00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:28,959
Speaker 1: I know dope is back.

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00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:30,719
Speaker 3: But you know, there's a question like why is it?

1093
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 3: Why do I not like beat face? But I can

1094
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 3: say sleigh and things like that. You know, I don't

1095
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:38,239
Speaker 3: know what else I don't know. There's just little things

1096
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 3: get to people different ways exactly.

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Speaker 1: You are allowed to break from whatever you want to

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00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 1: break from.

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00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 2: That's one thing I have to say that I don't

1100
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 2: know these days when I'm as I get older, I'm like, man,

1101
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:51,279
Speaker 2: you could feel one way about something else, and like

1102
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:54,279
Speaker 2: I could feel totally black power about my hair and

1103
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 2: then not feel that way about something else. I mean,

1104
00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 2: it's your prerogative to feel how you want to feel,

1105
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:00,840
Speaker 2: to think how you want to think. But I always

1106
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 2: say this that you can feel, think and say whatever

1107
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:07,399
Speaker 2: you want. But you have to know that so can

1108
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 2: everybody else, you know, because that's the part that people forget.

1109
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 2: They love the part where they're like, I could do

1110
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 2: what I want.

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00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:15,880
Speaker 1: Guess what, though everybody else can do what they want to,

1112
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 1: you can.

1113
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 2: You know, you can try your best to impose whatever

1114
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 2: you feel, think or say on someone else, but ultimately

1115
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:23,799
Speaker 2: you know that's just the how the world works.

1116
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:26,239
Speaker 1: That's not how any of this works. And so as

1117
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:28,800
Speaker 1: long as you acknowledge that, feel free, beat your face,

1118
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:32,360
Speaker 1: do what you want, slay, hate Beyonce, love Beyonce, whatever,

1119
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:35,800
Speaker 1: But ultimately you know, the world turns.

1120
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 3: And different opinions are what makes things interesting exactly.

1121
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 2: That's how my my friend, my my sister's husband, well,

1122
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 2: we're all Nigerians, but he was like born and raised

1123
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 2: in Nigeria. And I just love when he says that

1124
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:49,800
Speaker 2: because it's like his you know, everybody has like their phrase,

1125
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:50,239
Speaker 2: like I know.

1126
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:51,759
Speaker 1: I always say you know, you know.

1127
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 3: I know because I edit them ount sometimes.

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00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 2: Jara always tells me that Superman always tells me you

1129
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 2: know you always say you know, you know what I mean.

1130
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 1: I didn't even know what he told me. I was

1131
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 1: like I do.

1132
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 2: He's like, yes, he said, it drives me crazy because

1133
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 2: they don't know what you mean.

1134
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 3: Tiffany, nobody had, like I'm getting an intimate look into

1135
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:16,360
Speaker 3: the like the speaking patterns of Tiffany elli ch.

1136
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:20,800
Speaker 2: Exactly, and so he always says. My sister's husband always

1137
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 2: says is Zoch not exactly but exactly.

1138
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 1: Because he has a nice nick Nitrian accent.

1139
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:27,759
Speaker 2: So I just love saying that to him and he

1140
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 2: never realizes that I'm like saying it back because he'll

1141
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:31,600
Speaker 2: be like, yeah, so what do you think, I'm like

1142
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 2: exactly exacly, So just exactly. You can say what you want,

1143
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:38,239
Speaker 2: feel what you want, do what you want, beat your

1144
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:38,959
Speaker 2: face if you want.

1145
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 1: No.

1146
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 3: Oh, I hate it. I hate it. I'm just gonna

1147
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 3: I know it's easier to say, but I'm just going

1148
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 3: to be like, I put some makeup on. I got

1149
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:49,720
Speaker 3: some incup put on my face.

1150
00:50:50,480 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 2: Okay, so that's it for for we have a really

1151
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:03,440
Speaker 2: late You know, we have we gotten any brown breaks.

1152
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 1: I want to hear where people want to get breaks from.

1153
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 2: Please send your brown breaks to us via email, Tweet

1154
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 2: us your brown breaks. I'd love, love, love to share

1155
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:12,759
Speaker 2: some of your brown breaks. See what you guys are

1156
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 2: going through, see what you're totally over.

1157
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:17,279
Speaker 3: We'd have gotten a lot of questions and we're not

1158
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:19,360
Speaker 3: going to do a question this week because we have

1159
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:20,799
Speaker 3: run out of time and we want to get to

1160
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 3: some wins real quick. But we are keeping all your

1161
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:25,919
Speaker 3: questions and we love getting them, so keep sending them

1162
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:29,280
Speaker 3: to Bronambition Podcast at gmail dot com and we promise

1163
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:31,479
Speaker 3: we'll get to them eventually. Let's do two next week.

1164
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:32,759
Speaker 1: Yes, I like that.

1165
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 3: Yes, all right, So moving on to wins real quick.

1166
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 3: Some extra good news for the end of the show.

1167
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:40,319
Speaker 1: Okay, so Wins, I know you had a really great win.

1168
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:42,080
Speaker 1: I saw this fun on the internet.

1169
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 3: So I actually realized I have two. But I so

1170
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:46,880
Speaker 3: real quick. So I don't know if you heard, but

1171
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 3: it's February and it's Black History Month, which is kind

1172
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 3: of a big deal, and so I got the chance

1173
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 3: to do a story that I'm really happy with. It

1174
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:56,440
Speaker 3: was the five I wanted to take a look at

1175
00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 3: since I worked for a huge tech company and I've

1176
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:02,520
Speaker 3: written about the lack of diversity in Silicon Valley like

1177
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:05,760
Speaker 3: many people have, and just the fact that there aren't

1178
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:09,319
Speaker 3: very many minorities or women represented, especially in leadership roles.

1179
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 3: So for a Black History Month, I know it's about

1180
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 3: history and looking backwards, but I thought I would do

1181
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:17,320
Speaker 3: something looking forward and kind of calling out some people

1182
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:22,160
Speaker 3: I thought were exciting or interesting in Silicon Valley today

1183
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:24,920
Speaker 3: who just also happened to be black. Okay, So my

1184
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 3: story was five ground five ground breaking black business leaders

1185
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 3: who were changing the face Silicon Valley. I'll just run

1186
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:33,399
Speaker 3: through a few of them I have, and these aren't

1187
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 3: names that you probably know in your household, which is

1188
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 3: why I wanted to like lift them up, because they're

1189
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 3: really changing the literally the face of Silicon Valley. Got

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Speaker 3: Stacy Brown Philpott. She's the COEO of Task Rabbit. You

1191
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 3: know that freelancing site. She is just incredible.

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Speaker 5: You know.

1193
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 3: One of the best things about her if you read

1194
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 3: my story on Yahoo Finance. One of the best things

1195
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 3: I got to talk to her about was when she

1196
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 3: was working for Google before task Grabbit, where she was

1197
00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:00,160
Speaker 3: mentored by Cheryl Sandberg for a while before Cheryl went

1198
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:03,320
Speaker 3: onto Facebook. She had the opportunity to move to India

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Speaker 3: and in order to do that, to run Google sales

1200
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:09,719
Speaker 3: operations over theres. In order to do that, she decided

1201
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:13,760
Speaker 3: to leave her husband behind in America. And she talks

1202
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:16,320
Speaker 3: about how her family and friends really just like dogged

1203
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 3: her about that decision and made it seem like she

1204
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 3: was choosing her career over her family. And she said,

1205
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:25,480
Speaker 3: she told me, and she said this before. She said,

1206
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:27,600
Speaker 3: when I moved to India, I knew that I was

1207
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:29,920
Speaker 3: making I knew that I was choosing my career, but

1208
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:32,319
Speaker 3: it was only for a finite period of time, and

1209
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:34,840
Speaker 3: my husband and I had agreed. The key takeaway for

1210
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:36,920
Speaker 3: me was don't be afraid to ask her what you

1211
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:40,560
Speaker 3: need both back home and at work. And it was.

1212
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:42,840
Speaker 3: And she had other school stuff to say about how

1213
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:46,040
Speaker 3: she doesn't like the idea of living on a balance

1214
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 3: beam and trying to find work life balance, and she

1215
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:50,960
Speaker 3: said it's too stressful trying to figure out what's to

1216
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:54,440
Speaker 3: prioritize and have the perfect balance. She says that she

1217
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:57,359
Speaker 3: just takes life where it leads her, and she prioritizes

1218
00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 3: one thing at a time given the situation. So that's

1219
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:03,279
Speaker 3: just one incredible, one incredible woman. And you know what,

1220
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:05,440
Speaker 3: I didn't set out to do this, but four out

1221
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:08,400
Speaker 3: of the five business leaders I featured were women, and

1222
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:13,399
Speaker 3: the fifth was a transm was a transgender. I believe

1223
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:17,360
Speaker 3: he's non conforming person. So I was really excited for

1224
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:18,920
Speaker 3: this story. And if you want to check it out

1225
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:22,720
Speaker 3: other people real quick. Morgan Debon she founded blavity dot com.

1226
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Speaker 1: I love her.

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00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 3: She's really cool and she said she'd be on the

1228
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:31,920
Speaker 3: podcast soon. So love Blavity Blavity. If you don't know,

1229
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:34,400
Speaker 3: the whole concept behind blavity is that it's a mashup

1230
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:37,360
Speaker 3: of the word black at gravity. And she was inspired

1231
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:40,280
Speaker 3: during in college going to like a mostly white college

1232
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:43,720
Speaker 3: where like anyone you know, any lunch room cross America

1233
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:45,879
Speaker 3: in high school, like all the black kids gravitate toward

1234
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:48,759
Speaker 3: one another. So that's blavity. So it was really dope

1235
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:50,919
Speaker 3: listening to her talk about, you know, her very first

1236
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 3: business selling sugar kool aid and the cafeteria and stuff

1237
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 3: like that. And the another one was Courtney Ryan Siegler.

1238
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:03,399
Speaker 3: He started this hackathon a nonprofit called trans hack, which

1239
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 3: is a nonprofit that hosts hackathons and meet ups among

1240
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:09,920
Speaker 3: people in the transgender nonconforming community in Silicon Valley and

1241
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:13,799
Speaker 3: across the country. And I mean, it's really cool what

1242
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:16,120
Speaker 3: he's doing. He's not in the tech world. He's actually

1243
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:18,840
Speaker 3: in the media and entertainment side of things. But he

1244
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:22,920
Speaker 3: talked about wanting to give trans people, trans workers in

1245
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 3: Silicon Valley just a place to get together and like

1246
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:28,239
Speaker 3: feel supported because it can be lonely out there.

1247
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:29,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can imagine.

1248
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:31,680
Speaker 2: I like that. That's a great article. I can't wait

1249
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:33,759
Speaker 2: to weeak. I'm I'm honestly like I'm. One of the

1250
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:36,800
Speaker 2: things I'm addicted to is I love watching or reading

1251
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:38,440
Speaker 2: stories of.

1252
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 1: People who are different versions of successful.

1253
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:43,879
Speaker 2: So you know, not like always like oh, the multi

1254
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:47,040
Speaker 2: millionaire successful, but just whatever that looks like, maybe starting

1255
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 2: something new, going after their dream.

1256
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:52,239
Speaker 1: And so just was it two days ago?

1257
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:54,320
Speaker 2: I think it was a day before yesterday, I was

1258
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:58,600
Speaker 2: watching They had this documentary about Michael Jackson from when

1259
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:00,920
Speaker 2: he started as the Jackson I think it was called

1260
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:02,960
Speaker 2: From the Jackson five to Off the Wall.

1261
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:04,000
Speaker 1: Off the Wall was his.

1262
00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:06,680
Speaker 2: Very first album, and so they kind of chronicled his

1263
00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:10,839
Speaker 2: life from jack Ers Yes to It was so.

1264
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:16,080
Speaker 1: Honestly, Mandy, it was so just motivating.

1265
00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:18,080
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, of course, you know about Michael Jackson,

1266
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:19,839
Speaker 2: you know how hard he worked, you know all these things,

1267
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:23,360
Speaker 2: but to see it through one They did a lot

1268
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 2: of They had a lot of video of him as

1269
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:27,640
Speaker 2: a young man speaking and you don't see that much

1270
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:31,440
Speaker 2: meaning like him and his teens talking about like what

1271
00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:33,960
Speaker 2: he wanted his future to be. It was very reminiscent

1272
00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:36,600
Speaker 2: of a Steve job just so sure that he wanted

1273
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:38,560
Speaker 2: greatness and how he was going to go after it

1274
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:41,600
Speaker 2: at like seventeen eighteen nineteen, just to see him speak,

1275
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:44,960
Speaker 2: and then they interviewed all these really famous people about him,

1276
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:48,960
Speaker 2: and they just the consistency of what people said about

1277
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:52,640
Speaker 2: Michael that he was always watching, always sitting, always listening,

1278
00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:56,080
Speaker 2: always asking questions at six seven eight years old, Like

1279
00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:59,360
Speaker 2: Sammy Davis Junior is sitting there saying Michael used to

1280
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:01,359
Speaker 2: watch me on and ask me these questions, how did

1281
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:01,759
Speaker 2: you do that?

1282
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:03,160
Speaker 1: Why did you do it like that? Why did you

1283
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:05,240
Speaker 1: not do it like this at like eight years old?

1284
00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:09,799
Speaker 3: And just it was so just watch is it on

1285
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:10,880
Speaker 3: like Netflix or something?

1286
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:11,920
Speaker 1: It was on Showtime.

1287
00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 3: It was checking out.

1288
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:15,120
Speaker 2: Yes, I think you'll love it, first of all, and

1289
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 2: then like they so what happens is they they chronicle

1290
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:19,360
Speaker 2: his life. You kind of see like how he made

1291
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:21,680
Speaker 2: the moves that he made, and then how he was

1292
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:26,440
Speaker 2: unapologetic about his success and his clear trajectory towards this

1293
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 2: is what I want and this is what I'm willing

1294
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:29,520
Speaker 2: to do for it. And then they broke down like

1295
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:31,760
Speaker 2: all the songs on the album, and I was literally

1296
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:32,880
Speaker 2: it was like three o'clock in the morning.

1297
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:33,760
Speaker 1: I could not.

1298
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:37,600
Speaker 2: Stop help but dance because it was so like the

1299
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:41,080
Speaker 2: music was still so amazing. And yeah, it's just honestly,

1300
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:43,960
Speaker 2: And I encourage anyone who's kind of chasing their dreams

1301
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:45,840
Speaker 2: to just watch and read things like what Mandy the

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Speaker 2: article that Mandy has just written and this this this

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Speaker 2: piece about Michael Jackson. I'm always reading and watching things

1304
00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:55,080
Speaker 2: like that because it helps mon it helps to set

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00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 2: the tone for what you're doing because a lot of

1306
00:57:57,040 --> 00:57:59,320
Speaker 2: people will think you're crazy if you're going after your dreams.

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00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:01,720
Speaker 2: And it helps you to see other people who are

1308
00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:05,320
Speaker 2: quote unquote crazy and how they've dealt with it, and

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00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:09,160
Speaker 2: it just helps to see that success looks different for

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00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:11,800
Speaker 2: different people in different ways. But then there are also

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00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:14,000
Speaker 2: some things that are that are kind of baseline and

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00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:17,280
Speaker 2: the same, which is you you make a conscious choice,

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00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:19,880
Speaker 2: you put in the work, and you decide how you

1314
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:23,040
Speaker 2: want your life to live unapologetically. So yeah, maybe that's

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Speaker 2: my win that that that documentary. It was just so good, honestly,

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Speaker 2: like I had, I hadn't.

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Speaker 3: Wait to watch them. Oh god, I love Michael Jackson.

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Speaker 2: What Mandy I'm telling you're gonna be like, oh my god.

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Speaker 2: First of all, like I was sitting laughing, crying, dancing.

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Speaker 1: I mean they it.

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Speaker 2: Pulled me in every way. And Spike Lee directed it

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Speaker 2: of course.

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Speaker 3: Oh did he have heard about this? Okay, thank you,

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Speaker 3: you're right checking it out. I actually I got my

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Speaker 3: dad's dish flog in. I'm gonna check it out very

1326
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:52,040
Speaker 3: much of these stuff. Mmm, little hipster cable. Well that

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Speaker 3: reminded me real quick. I've been we haven't talked about

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00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:56,600
Speaker 3: this yet, but the fact that they wanted that they're

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00:58:56,640 --> 00:58:59,760
Speaker 3: making this movie in the UK where they're having Michael

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00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:02,160
Speaker 3: Jags and played by a white actor. Did you hear

1331
00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:02,600
Speaker 3: about that?

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00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:03,160
Speaker 4: Yes?

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Speaker 1: I don't even It has.

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Speaker 3: Spent a lot of time, but it's just like insane.

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Speaker 3: I hope you changed your minds, like why why why

1336
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:12,120
Speaker 3: can't we have one? Couldn't you find one black actor

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Speaker 3: to play him?

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's supposed to be like a comedy

1339
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:17,240
Speaker 2: and it's like a it's like a yeah, it just

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Speaker 2: seems very strange, but.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, whatever, it's tired.

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Speaker 3: We're too tired to take on racism in Hollywood right now.

1343
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Speaker 2: Right now, Beyonce has just slayd. It is making people

1344
00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:30,000
Speaker 2: angry across the world, which is kind of giggly. So

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Speaker 2: I'm just like, whatever, take that.

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Speaker 1: Take that. I just ugh.

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Speaker 3: Yes, tomorrow the presale begins. I hope you guys all

1348
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Speaker 3: know if you have mxes that pre sale for Beyonce

1349
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:40,480
Speaker 3: begins at ten a m. You can go like, are

1350
00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:42,880
Speaker 3: you gonna go? Yeah, I'm going you want to come?

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Speaker 1: I do?

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Speaker 3: Cityfield?

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Speaker 1: Oh.

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00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:47,040
Speaker 3: So the ticket price has arranged from forty five dollars

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Speaker 3: to three hundred and fifty dollars three hundred and fifty

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Speaker 3: five dollars, which is quite high, but you know, it

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00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:54,280
Speaker 3: depends on what you want to spend. Yeah, it's good.

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Speaker 3: But at the Stadium show in New York City is

1359
00:59:56,080 --> 00:59:58,400
Speaker 3: going to be in City Field, so like go check

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Speaker 3: it out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah no, let me know, honest, I think I do

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01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:02,200
Speaker 2: want to go. I've never been to a Beyonce concert.

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Speaker 3: Oh really, yeah, I'm excited. The last one I went

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Speaker 3: to was for the After the Visual album After Beyonce.

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Speaker 1: So we hope that you enjoyed this.

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Speaker 2: This uh, this episode was brought to you by B

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Speaker 2: B for Beyonces, for Slagh and C for see Elater

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Speaker 2: and Bagency. Please please please me and Mandy we're on

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Speaker 2: your side. Don't bring in here and be have we are.

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Speaker 2: We apologize for some of the some of the the

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Speaker 2: comments markus. I loved Jess and I thought she had

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Speaker 2: great insight, but I don't want to be stunge.

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Speaker 1: I love my life. And with that we sign off

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Speaker 3: Like I see you next week