1 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 1: I mean it ended up great in the right guy one. 2 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: So it just looked, as I said, I was envious. 3 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:08,600 Speaker 1: I just started, looked great. Fund that back, there's last 4 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:11,039 Speaker 1: five sort of our looked just an amazing place to pay. 5 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: And that's what you played. That's well, that's why professional 6 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 1: golfers and professional golfers to get in that situation and 7 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: sort of have fun with that. I mean, only one 8 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 1: guy can win, which is a shame, but I'll bet 9 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 1: you I all had a good time. Put another logo 10 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:40,880 Speaker 1: fire nobody here give the time, Hello and welcome back 11 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 1: to another fire drill. This is Alan Schipnuk on my left, 12 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 1: his frequent wingman, Michael Bamberger. Michael, do you want anything 13 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 1: to be here? It's been an interesting day and we 14 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 1: got Jeff. Yeah, we have Jeff Ogil You coming in 15 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 1: from Melbourne. Jeff, thanks for doing this. Yeah, yeah, no worries. 16 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 1: I am coming in hot from the playoff. I think 17 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 1: I still have some of Jim McKay's tears on my sweater. Uh. 18 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 1: It was it was emotional, it was memorable. I don't 19 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 1: even know where to start. Jeff, tell us what you thought, 20 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: you know, the takeaways justin Thomas wanted the second PG championship, 21 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 1: but the day was a war of attrition. A lot 22 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: of guys were there until until they weren't. What's your 23 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 1: take away from this very action packed final round? Yeah amazing, 24 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:26,960 Speaker 1: I mean it looked we look destined to have a 25 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 1: first time champion of something. I mean CBS showed a 26 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 1: great graphic at some point like the amount of wins 27 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 1: on the leaderboard was just a time as fourteen and 28 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 1: Rory twenty and no one else had won anything, which 29 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:41,320 Speaker 1: was amazing. Um, yeah, crazy day, fun to watch, I mean, 30 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 1: pretty compelling. And then it shows you don't need I 31 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:44,680 Speaker 1: mean we had to show one of the big big 32 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 1: dogs win in the end, but it shows you don't 33 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 1: really need all the big dogs up there to make 34 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 1: exciting golf and compelling sort of viewing. You know. Um 35 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 1: sad for me though, and when he played well the 36 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 1: whole week, they played well a whole week. Um, not 37 00:01:56,600 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 1: a fun way to finish, but JT, I mean with 38 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 1: about an hour ago, it looked a little ominous at 39 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 1: j T. If you just gets in the house here, 40 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 1: I mean that finishes. I mean the birdies there, but 41 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 1: there's a bit of carntage there as well, so well 42 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 1: done to him. To be fair, if you actually look 43 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 1: at the scoreboard, history is going to see a scoreboard 44 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 1: and say three seven, I think you shot this week. 45 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 1: I mean, he's probably the best player there. Um, just 46 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:19,359 Speaker 1: a bit of a rough Saturday yesterday, like everyone had. 47 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:21,799 Speaker 1: But yeah, I founder watching the end and look, we 48 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:24,799 Speaker 1: had a leaderboard full of guys that we didn't think 49 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 1: I would be up there at the start of the week, 50 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 1: and we didn't know it was going to win. It 51 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 1: was all that, and then we ended up two. Probably 52 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:32,959 Speaker 1: got a pre tournament favorites at the end, which sort 53 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 1: of came out of nowhere. So um fun to watch 54 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: in a good winner. It's astounding how golf really needs 55 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 1: to be played at seven you tube holes. This is 56 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: not a live common with fifty four holes. It's just 57 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 1: there is something magical, magical about getting to the seventies 58 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:54,800 Speaker 1: second green of a major championship, and no one's more 59 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 1: equipped to talk about that than you, But it really is. 60 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 1: As Allen said, it's a war of attrition, and it's 61 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 1: just neat to see the whole thing unfold slowly and 62 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 1: get to the finishing line the seventy second hole. If anything. 63 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 1: It shows you the when you play a course like 64 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 1: Southern Hills, I mean, inevitably it throws up a great 65 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 1: champion in the end. I mean, it took seventy two 66 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 1: holes to get us there. But if you look at 67 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 1: the list of champions, Justin fits in very nicely along 68 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 1: that list, you know what I mean, And for a 69 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 1: while there it's like, Wow, we're gonna get a different one. 70 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 1: But um, yeah, you're right in this case. Yeah amazing. 71 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 1: I was gonna say this, this felt a little bit 72 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 1: like wing Foot in two thousand and six, where so 73 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 1: much is happening. A bunch of guys had a chance 74 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 1: wild swings on the leaderboard. When you're in the middle 75 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 1: of a dog fight like that, Jeff, and you're just 76 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 1: trying to focus on your game, you can hear the roars, 77 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 1: you can see the numbers changed on the board. Like, 78 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 1: how hard is it just to stay in your bubble 79 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: and play your game and not think ahead to the 80 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 1: possible outcomes? Uh? It varies. I think sometimes it's easy 81 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 1: when you're really sort of feeling it. I think sometimes 82 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 1: it's really difficult. Um. I think usually when there's that 83 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 1: many people involved. Um, I mean there was even up 84 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 1: to probably thirty minutes ago. There's four or five or 85 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 1: six guys who could have won that tournament. I think 86 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 1: it's a little easier. You just trying to do the 87 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 1: best you can, and you're having a lot of fun 88 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 1: because there's a lot of noise. It sounded like it 89 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 1: would have been a lot of fun. And I was 90 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:19,479 Speaker 1: a little envious of how much fun they were having. Um, 91 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 1: it's just those great atmospheres as close greens, they're all 92 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:25,160 Speaker 1: the noise, good stuff happening. Um. I really sort of 93 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:28,719 Speaker 1: balanced crowd for that. There wasn't just one outright favorite 94 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 1: that they were all cheering for. It seems like they 95 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 1: were cheered for everyone, which is kind of always fun. 96 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 1: I think, Yeah, I would think in that situation it's 97 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 1: relatively easy because it's sort of let's just get in 98 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 1: and see what happens. If it's just a two horse race, 99 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:45,839 Speaker 1: I think it gets really difficult. Um. But yeah, I 100 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 1: mean it ended up great and the right guy one. 101 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 1: So it just looked, as I said, I was envious. 102 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 1: I just thought it looked great. Fun back there's last 103 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:53,159 Speaker 1: five sort of hour looked just an amazing place to 104 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:55,839 Speaker 1: be And that's what you played well. That's why professional 105 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: golfers and professional golfers to get in that situation and 106 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:00,160 Speaker 1: sort of have fun with that. And and only one 107 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 1: guy can one which is a shame, can win, which 108 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 1: is a shame. But I'll bet you they all had 109 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:07,160 Speaker 1: a good time. Did you have the feeling when the 110 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:10,839 Speaker 1: leaders making the turn that that that five or six 111 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 1: would be so meaningful when the scores were lury? To 112 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:19,559 Speaker 1: be honest, I actually thought the setup was really cool. 113 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: I thought, I mean, he gave him every chance on 114 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 1: the last outside of eighteen. I mean, there was every 115 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 1: chance to make birdies coming in. It looked like men 116 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: moved some teas up. Thirteen was reachable, seventeen was reachable. Um, 117 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:31,599 Speaker 1: and we saw some We saw a couple early eagles 118 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 1: on seventeen, and good stuff on thirteen. I thought it 119 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 1: was sort of hang on until you get to last 120 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:37,840 Speaker 1: five or six sols and see if you can get there, 121 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 1: see if you can make a few birdies. So I thought, 122 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 1: maybe um, seven or eight or even nine. At some 123 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 1: point I thought someone would sort of fly home one 124 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:47,599 Speaker 1: of those top three or four. But because Meadow came 125 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 1: back and Will didn't sort of make to me Bertie, 126 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:52,480 Speaker 1: they just sort of they came back to the field 127 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 1: and gave everyone a chance, you know, But that that 128 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 1: that's it had the sort of august to feel about it. 129 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:58,600 Speaker 1: Didn't that you could have come from behind, or you 130 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 1: could sort of you could have sort have stepped it 131 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 1: up and gone ahead and sort of buried everyone. So, um, 132 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 1: great course, well set up. I thought, I love a 133 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 1: a backbreaking seventy second hole. There's just something so much 134 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:15,159 Speaker 1: so about it, and I mean, so much happened there. Zalatoris, 135 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 1: who probably has the most scrutinized putting stroke in golf, 136 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 1: guts an absolute must make. Um justin hits a great 137 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 1: shot but can't make the putt. It looks for a 138 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 1: minute like that might cost him the whole thing. Um, 139 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:30,599 Speaker 1: and then of course mead who um, you know that 140 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 1: was hard to watch. But still that it had to 141 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 1: happen on the last toll, I don't. It's just incredible 142 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 1: that it just always comes down to the end and 143 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 1: what an incredible stage. So I don't know how well 144 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 1: it plays on TV, but that just that Hillside of 145 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 1: People is one of the best afters ever seen in golf, 146 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 1: and it was it was neat to be out there Jeff, 147 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 1: if you ever hit a cold shank in a PGA 148 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:57,359 Speaker 1: Tour event, major championship event, is Justin Thomas did today? Um, 149 00:06:57,400 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: I've never had a shank in a major. I did 150 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:02,600 Speaker 1: hit a shank it um Council Ponds one year on 151 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 1: the tenth fuel stright over the top of the crowd. 152 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:07,160 Speaker 1: The people in the right gallery just move their head. 153 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 1: They just looked over their head and it disappeared over things. 154 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 1: So that was a fairly embarrassing one on the eighth 155 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 1: while I was playing quite well. Um, a couple of others, 156 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 1: probably three or four shanks in my time. It's inevitably 157 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 1: you're gonna hit one. What causes it? You know? And 158 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 1: Justin Thoms Yeah, yeah, that's good. That's a good technical 159 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 1: explanation for those who don't know the term shank. Um. 160 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 1: But why do you think of a player of Justin 161 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 1: Thomas's caliber would suddenly hit a shank in that particular situation. 162 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 1: I mean, it happens. I mean some guys, I mean, 163 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:46,239 Speaker 1: Web hits a lot of them, and it's it's usually 164 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 1: someone who's way inside, like an inside of path and 165 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 1: maybe I don't know, I mean, Gulfs are strange game 166 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 1: your body moves the mysterious ways. Sometimes it doesn't always 167 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 1: do what you want, and every now and then you 168 00:07:56,640 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 1: hit one. I mean we all hit him. Um. I 169 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 1: think if you've got sereal shanks, I think you need 170 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 1: to go to a coach and get a pro to 171 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 1: sort of sort you out. But I don't think just 172 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 1: the sereal shanker. I think this will probably be the 173 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 1: only one who hits for a few years. It's just 174 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 1: one of those things. I've never really had them. I 175 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 1: mean I've hit a few, but I've never really had them, 176 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 1: so I don't really know what happens. But I think 177 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 1: it's guys who are way inside on the way down 178 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 1: and they just get a little bit too inside and 179 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 1: just get a little bit wrong. I mean, it's very 180 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 1: close to a good shot. It's less close to a 181 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 1: good shot in the old days when I was a kid, 182 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 1: when we had the big long hozzles on the irons, 183 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 1: all the weight was on the inside, on the on 184 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:32,839 Speaker 1: the heel side of the clubs of the sweet spot 185 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 1: was very close. I mean you get close to the heel, 186 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 1: you get all that. You see all the Hogan's old 187 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:39,680 Speaker 1: clubs of the with the wear mark really really close 188 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 1: to the hozzle. Um, it's a little bit more in 189 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 1: the middle now, like with perimeter waited, and they've balanced 190 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:45,959 Speaker 1: clubs out a little bit and the science is a 191 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 1: little bit better in them so that the sweet spot 192 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 1: is in the middle of the iron. So it happens less, 193 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 1: I think now. But it isn't a is It isn't 194 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:56,079 Speaker 1: an awful shot. I mean missing the ball and missing 195 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 1: the club on the other side of missing the ball 196 00:08:57,360 --> 00:08:58,959 Speaker 1: completely would be a far biggest in you know what 197 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 1: I mean. But it's much just as embarrassing there to 198 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 1: Shange justin Thomas. You know What's what's so fascinating because 199 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 1: he was saying in his comments all week, I don't 200 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:08,439 Speaker 1: feel great over the ball, like I don't feel good 201 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 1: over the ball. But when I when I let go 202 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 1: of that and I just try and play shots and 203 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 1: hit shots, then it, uh, it's working. And I guess 204 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: it's that field versus real thing. But to me, what 205 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 1: makes him such an exciting player is he's a throwback 206 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 1: right like he was talking about he used to hit 207 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 1: it straight and he played it. He was paired with Tiger, 208 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 1: and he asked Tiger when the first time ever paired 209 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 1: together he said, what do you see and tigers like 210 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 1: you don't curve it enough. He's like, oh, I better 211 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 1: start curving it. And now he's gone to like the 212 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 1: illogical extremes, like he's curving everything like Bubba and but 213 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 1: that's probably overkill at the Phoenix Open. But you come 214 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 1: to place like this, I mean, how big is an 215 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 1: advantage is that, Jeff? When when you can really work 216 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 1: the ball into the slopes and against the wind, and like, 217 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 1: what does that do for a guy like justin to 218 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 1: separate himself from other guys or maybe just more monotonous 219 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 1: ball strikers. Yeah, I mean a lot. I think firstly, 220 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 1: I mean they kind of go together. There was kind 221 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 1: of two pasts that question. Um the amount of people 222 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 1: that two guys who have won tournaments where they felt 223 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 1: like they couldn't hit it at all on Thursdays more 224 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 1: than the other way around. Um, you very often hear 225 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 1: a guys say I couldn't even hit on Thursday morning. 226 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:13,440 Speaker 1: I was just trying to get out of the way 227 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 1: and not be embarrassing. And they win the tournament and 228 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 1: JT obviously said he didn't feel very good over the ball. 229 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 1: He just sort of just trying to sort of get 230 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:25,080 Speaker 1: his way around there. Um. And that is it gets 231 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 1: you into shot and it gets you out of swing. 232 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 1: When you really feel perfect and you've been doing all 233 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 1: this perfect preparation, you've got all your drills, and you've 234 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 1: got your swing feeling that you want to you just 235 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 1: seem to focus on swing a little bit, I think sometimes, 236 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 1: and you've got everything to look You've already given yourself 237 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 1: a good ball striking week, so you've got everything to lose. 238 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 1: Whereas when you start the week and you're not feeling 239 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:43,560 Speaker 1: very good over the ball, I think you sort of 240 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:46,440 Speaker 1: your expectations go away and you just you just revert 241 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 1: back when instinct and just try to find a way 242 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 1: to get around there. And I think the way he 243 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 1: plays now lets him do that, because that's really what 244 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 1: shaping does for you, is it gets your head out 245 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 1: of golf swing and it gets your head into golf shot. Um. 246 00:10:57,320 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 1: And we all work better when we when we try 247 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 1: to hit shots as opposed to put it's put swings 248 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 1: on it. Um. Evidence by that shot he hit up 249 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 1: the last it was just an incredibly cool looking shot 250 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 1: in the shot Draiser, I think it's a fictitious for me. 251 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 1: I just kind of get frustrated and watched it all time. 252 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 1: But the one on the last was really really cool, 253 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 1: um and showed everybody that there's more than just sort 254 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:17,719 Speaker 1: of taking it up high and trying to launch it 255 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:19,679 Speaker 1: really high and low spin and these track fans sort 256 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 1: of things that everyone tries to do. JT is actually 257 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:25,680 Speaker 1: out there playing golf, um, like Tiger did, like Hogan did, 258 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 1: like and it's just fun to watch. The SHOT's amazing 259 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 1: because you know, it elevated, elevated green and down wind 260 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 1: and got it to stop take so much skill. I mean, 261 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 1: I think people can't even really understand it. You can 262 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 1: understand it if you're really close to the game, can 263 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 1: nderstand it. But most people just looks like a good shot. 264 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 1: But it's it's so much more than that. Um. Uh. 265 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 1: Jim McKay Bones worked for for an elite golfer like 266 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 1: Justin Thomas, Phil Nicholson, who would personality type could not 267 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 1: be more different. Uh, And yet this relationship, by all 268 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 1: the appearances today seems to be working. I'm wondering what 269 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 1: you observed between McKay and Justin Thomas. Yeah, just to 270 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 1: level and peaceful Bones is out there. Um, it would 271 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 1: it looked like they were coming in on Thursday, Um, 272 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 1: just finishing off their round. And I'm very sure of himself. 273 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 1: You know, he's not gonna he knows what he's saying. 274 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 1: On the last he justin went against it. I think 275 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:22,959 Speaker 1: Bones sounded like he wanted to be a driver on 276 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 1: the last. I'm sorry he wanted to himIt three would 277 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 1: in the last and j T's like, no, no, no no, 278 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:29,439 Speaker 1: I want to hit driver, And like Bones didn't sort 279 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 1: of put any doubt he said, He's like, right right, 280 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 1: hit the shot you want to do and all that. 281 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:37,080 Speaker 1: Just what a guy to have on your bag down 282 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 1: the stretch. Um, yeah, great, just level headed, has been 283 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 1: there before. You probably wouldn't want anyone else on your 284 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 1: bag in that situation. I mean, there's a lot of 285 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 1: great caddies there, but I mean how many people have 286 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 1: he's outside of Stevie, he's probably one more majors. I 287 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 1: think of the guys up there, um, who were still 288 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 1: cattying at the moment. So incredible, incredible to guy having 289 00:12:57,960 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 1: the bag in a massive asset, and they look like 290 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:01,680 Speaker 1: they go really well together. Jack gets a bit excitable, 291 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 1: I think, and finds look very calm and um, I'm 292 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 1: sort of sure of what was going on, and it 293 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:09,679 Speaker 1: doesn't get too excited, and just a perfect guy to 294 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:12,199 Speaker 1: have on the bag of that car, and in that situation, 295 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 1: you know, it was cool. I was right behind the 296 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 1: eighteen tea box in the playoff and when when Justin 297 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 1: did hit driver, but he teed it so low. I 298 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 1: mean it was like barely off the grass and you 299 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 1: just hit that little bullet and and probably just took 300 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 1: enough distance off and he run into the creek because 301 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 1: it's only about ten steps shode of the water, like 302 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:31,559 Speaker 1: it was neat to be out there, and it's like 303 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 1: I haven't seen a pro teed up that low in 304 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 1: a long time. It was the Kuyd knew what he 305 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:36,200 Speaker 1: was talking about when he said maybe at three with Yeah, 306 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 1: but Justin had his own idea and Justin's the guy 307 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 1: who's going to hit the shot. Yeah, Yeah, that was 308 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 1: that was cool. That was a cool little moment. Yeah, 309 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 1: but that's sort of like it's quite smart. Yeah, it's 310 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 1: very smart. I mean he would have got that from 311 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:50,679 Speaker 1: target targets teeth lower than anybody I've ever seen do it. 312 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:52,679 Speaker 1: And you kind of get rid of the right miss 313 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:54,680 Speaker 1: when you tee the ball low for me at least 314 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 1: for me, and I think a lot of pros because 315 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 1: it makes you sort of you can't get underneath and 316 00:13:58,320 --> 00:13:59,439 Speaker 1: try to hit it up in the air, and that's 317 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 1: when it's when when a lot of guys are losing 318 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:02,959 Speaker 1: to the right. So it's sort of guarantees that sort 319 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 1: of low fading sort of thing. Um and and sort 320 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:08,839 Speaker 1: of to me at least, and it's always seemed to 321 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 1: get rid of the right miss so it's pretty clever. 322 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:14,560 Speaker 1: That's cool. I love that. Um, let's talk a little 323 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 1: more about Southern Hills because it was a big talking 324 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:18,679 Speaker 1: point early in the week, and then then you start 325 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 1: focusing on the players and leader board and now we 326 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 1: can kind of render a final verdict on Southern Hills. 327 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 1: I mean, I thought, of course it was. It was 328 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 1: a blast. Was some squawking Terrell Hatton's comments, and a 329 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 1: few pros thought almost played too hard. Some of the 330 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 1: part threes were really brutal. But this is what we want, 331 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 1: I mean this you should be pushed to the limit. 332 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 1: And and like you said, though, Jeff, they did have 333 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 1: some opportunities coming in with with with the way the 334 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 1: teas were and some of the flags So what's what's 335 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 1: the final verdict on Southern the New the Reborn Southern Hills. Yeah, 336 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 1: I mean I can't speak to sort of um two, 337 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 1: I can't get too into that because I wasn't there 338 00:14:56,600 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 1: and I didn't play the course. Um, But watching from afar, 339 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 1: it looked like cool set up. There was a variety 340 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 1: at the path thres did seem really long outside of eleven, 341 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 1: and the boys never really love like three ines into 342 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 1: every part three. It can kind of get a bit 343 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 1: tedious and it seems a bit sort of why would 344 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 1: you try to get your lengths on a golf course 345 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 1: on path threes? But I mean as far as everyone 346 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 1: hits it, now I understand why they do it. Um, 347 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 1: the interest. I think the really cool thing was it 348 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 1: was the rough wasn't really part of the tournament. It 349 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 1: was more about angles. The bunkers were proper hazards. They 350 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 1: weren't really plugging them, and I saw a few plugs, 351 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 1: but maybe there was more plugs. I don't know, but 352 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 1: it just looked they all sort of struggled out of bunkers, 353 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 1: and I think bunkers should be a little bit like that. 354 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 1: I think the great bunker players will work it out 355 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 1: at the end of the week. And I think as 356 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 1: long as you've got a golf course, that the best 357 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 1: players have sort of a platform to show why they're 358 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 1: the best. Um. I think it's great for a major, 359 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 1: you know, a minutes. I think it's fun to have 360 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 1: these sort of birdie fests and normal tour events and 361 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 1: just have execution contests and you know, whoever sort of 362 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 1: makes the most parts in the sort of is brave 363 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 1: enough with iron shots over water and stuff. I think 364 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 1: that's great stuff for a normal tour events sometimes for entertainment, 365 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 1: but in a major, I think you want to test 366 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 1: as many facets of the game as you can, and 367 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 1: I think Southern Hills did from afar like it did that. Um. 368 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 1: It seemed like they were a bit sort of some 369 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 1: of the complaints for about the slow greens and sort 370 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 1: of didn't cut them on Friday from what I understand, 371 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 1: But that's just common sense. I think you get to 372 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 1: these old venues. There's no reason why we have to 373 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 1: play at fourteen on the stepment every week. We said 374 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 1: this farlier in the week. I think, I mean, obviously 375 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 1: we all love fourteen and it's great, um, but there's 376 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 1: no we will get to the old course here in 377 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 1: a month and then they'll be at ten or eleven 378 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 1: or nine or something. Um, and you kind of need 379 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 1: to I think you've got to have greens. You've gotta 380 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 1: have green species that matched the place and the picture 381 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 1: of the greens, and so you can use all the 382 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 1: fun pim positions and you don't just end up on 383 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 1: the flat spots. And um, they seem to do that 384 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 1: really well. And pros don't like green slowing down. But 385 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 1: I think that's a challenge and you should ask all 386 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 1: the questions in a major, and I think Southern Hills 387 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 1: from Afar, as I said, looked like it. It asked 388 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 1: all the questions. With some crazy weather and the wind 389 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 1: changed in the middle of the week and really tough week, 390 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 1: really tough week weatherwise as well. So all in all, 391 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:09,359 Speaker 1: look as said, it was sort of shaping up to 392 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 1: be sort of an odd one when no one who 393 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 1: didn't I mean most of the guys in leader hadn't 394 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 1: even won a tournament. I made to let alone, let 395 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:18,119 Speaker 1: alone a major, and then we end up getting j 396 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 1: T winning the tournament, tournament and two majors, which is 397 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:24,239 Speaker 1: in pretty rare are now. So um, it threw up 398 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 1: a great champion in the end. Do you have an 399 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:30,439 Speaker 1: insugn to Will's allotoris his short putting struggles From time 400 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:33,400 Speaker 1: to time, he seems his lag putting stroke looks beautiful 401 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 1: on the short putting stroke to me, looks different. But 402 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:39,959 Speaker 1: what's your view, Jeff, I don't know. Putting is very 403 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:43,199 Speaker 1: personal and obviously everyone wants to talk about it. It's 404 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 1: scary when they get that camera low. Some of his 405 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 1: takeaw some of his takeaways look different. But I mean, 406 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 1: you know what, I don't know what he ended, but 407 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:53,440 Speaker 1: he was leading putting most of the week, so he 408 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 1: obviously can part um. I think he was um like 409 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:01,400 Speaker 1: four or five bombs on Thurs, like twenty plus feet, 410 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:05,399 Speaker 1: So he's clearly capable of being a great part of UM. 411 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:08,399 Speaker 1: Nobody gets everything, you know. He got a little bit 412 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:10,879 Speaker 1: extra helping when they were handing out talent in the 413 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 1: ball striking line, but when he got into the pudding line, 414 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 1: he did he was he sort of was at the 415 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 1: back of the line a little bit. I mean, nobody 416 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:18,919 Speaker 1: gets everything. I mean Tiger kind of had everything there 417 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 1: for a while, you know, and Jack sort of got everything. Um. 418 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 1: But it's just one of those games. I mean, that's 419 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 1: why it's so great. There are multiple ways to win 420 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 1: as tournament. I mean you can do it with ball 421 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 1: striking and do it with putting. You can do it 422 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 1: a short game, you can do it with your mind. 423 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 1: You can do it with all sorts and sort of. 424 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 1: Will has got everything, I think except those short puts. Um, 425 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:41,919 Speaker 1: it's he seems inevitable. He loves the majors. He clearly 426 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:44,399 Speaker 1: puts short puts reasonably well, because it's pretty hard to 427 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 1: have top fives and majors without holding a few short parts. 428 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 1: Because he left with a lot of them. So it's 429 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 1: not it's not like disaster, but it's certainly I think. Um, 430 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 1: And he hold what sev eighteen in regulation, he held 431 00:18:56,800 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 1: two great puts, so he's got the moxie too. Right, Um, 432 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 1: we'll see. I mean, he'll work it out, he'll keep 433 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:05,639 Speaker 1: working on it. And I don't, as I said, that 434 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 1: worm that worms our view of his punning stroke scares 435 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 1: me a little bit. I don't really want to watch it. 436 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:13,359 Speaker 1: But but he's fine in a way. He's got a 437 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:14,919 Speaker 1: funny putter in a weird grip, and he's just going 438 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 1: to find a way to do it. He's certainly going 439 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 1: to be around a long time. Anyone who hits it 440 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:21,200 Speaker 1: that good is going to be around for a while. 441 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 1: Can I ask this one? If you were the czar Golf, 442 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 1: would you have a uniform way of playing playoffs in 443 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 1: the four major championships? Do you like the different setups? 444 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:38,439 Speaker 1: What's your view of playoffs and majors? Um? I mean, 445 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 1: I don't mind a bit of variety. I mean, I 446 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 1: think the sudden death of the Masters has always sent 447 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 1: him create a pretty compelling situation. I mean there's something 448 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 1: about that cutthroat, that sort of cutthroat do it now, 449 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:51,399 Speaker 1: you know? I mean, you wouldn't have had the Bubba thing, 450 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:53,399 Speaker 1: you wouldn't have had the Larry Meyers thing, you wouldn't mean. 451 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 1: There's so many things in that sudden death thing that 452 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:59,119 Speaker 1: are great, right, um, But then then the multiple holes. 453 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 1: It seems to look after the player who's playing the 454 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:10,159 Speaker 1: best overall generally. You know, Tiger and Bob May You know, 455 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:13,879 Speaker 1: j T was probably playing better today, even Will was. Um. 456 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:16,879 Speaker 1: So I don't know, and I think it's good. I 457 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: think variety is good. I mean, like when you go 458 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:21,920 Speaker 1: the old course and you go one to eighteen that's 459 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:25,159 Speaker 1: always pretty fun to you know. Um And at the 460 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 1: end of the day, like it's an entertainment product. And 461 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 1: if you get three or four more holes, like there's 462 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 1: more entertainment, right, and the fans get a bit more 463 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 1: to watch. And um, you just get given the task. 464 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 1: You get given the task. At the start of the week, 465 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 1: you've you've you've got to be in front. If you're 466 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 1: not in front, you're gonna play three more holes. You 467 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 1: sort of know the whole time. I think if they're 468 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 1: all better than seventy two, than than eighteen extra holes 469 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:48,199 Speaker 1: on Monday, I don't think that's Um, I don't think 470 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:50,680 Speaker 1: that's a great solution. So I think any version that 471 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 1: gets it done and with sudden death to three holes, 472 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 1: two holes, four holes, I think they're all great. I 473 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 1: think I think it's fun to watch every time. Do 474 00:20:57,600 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 1: you have I'm not challenging you, but I don't think 475 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:02,399 Speaker 1: you view it as an entertainment product. I think you 476 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 1: view it as an athletic achievement to to play in 477 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:07,880 Speaker 1: these events and can try to contend and try to win. 478 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:14,159 Speaker 1: Is that fair accurate? Oh? Yeah, absolutely, it's an athletic event. Um. 479 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 1: And as I said, but it's fun. It's fun to like, 480 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 1: I don't know, it's like the right player competing. It 481 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:23,360 Speaker 1: is just fun. Whatever the challenges all you're gonna beat 482 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 1: this guy over one hole, you've gotta beat this guy 483 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 1: over three holes, be both four holes. I think whatever 484 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 1: question they had you on the first day, it's like, okay, 485 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 1: I'll do that, and it's fun and it's challenging, and 486 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 1: that's the task set for you. I think. I don't 487 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 1: think there's a right or wrong. They're all good and yeah, 488 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 1: it's not an entertainment product for me, but it certainly is. 489 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 1: We play for money, and people put money up because 490 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 1: they like watching us do it, you know. So it's 491 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 1: not because we're like we're feeding anybody or building any 492 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:50,879 Speaker 1: buildings or you know what I mean. We're actually just 493 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 1: entertainers really at the end of the day. So whatever 494 00:21:55,000 --> 00:22:00,119 Speaker 1: is the most whatever, the most balanced competitive thing than 495 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 1: entertains at the same time, that's the win, right right 496 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 1: when Alan gives me three your side, it's not an 497 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 1: entertainment product. It's work. It's a death match. And by 498 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 1: the way, the three holes in this playoff were absolutely perfect. 499 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 1: They were kind of short. Part five drive all Part 500 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 1: four and then of super Macho finished like you couldn't 501 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:21,440 Speaker 1: you can you can ask for a better sequence. So 502 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:24,119 Speaker 1: that was cool too. Um, well, this has been an 503 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:26,879 Speaker 1: absolute delight. Let why don't we end with this? Justin 504 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 1: Thomas is twenty nine years old. He just won a 505 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:31,680 Speaker 1: second major championship. When when he hangs it up and 506 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 1: or reaches the seniors or how many majors will leave 507 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 1: won in his career. Give me a number, first thing 508 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 1: that jumps in your head. Three would be huge, three 509 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 1: more or three total total? It's so hard it is. 510 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:49,200 Speaker 1: Three would be great, Jeff. Five, I'm gonna say four. 511 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 1: Five is a huge number. Five is monumental. So, um, 512 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 1: he's already won fifteen tournaments. I mean he's a winner, 513 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:59,359 Speaker 1: like he wins tournaments. Agreed. Yes, if there's not a 514 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:01,359 Speaker 1: lot of and a lot of current players in one 515 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:05,920 Speaker 1: fifth day tournaments, you know, like and he's totally devoted 516 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 1: to golf. He doesn't seem to have any other distractions. Yeah, 517 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 1: all right, Well that's great. We're gonna give one final 518 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:15,359 Speaker 1: shout out. Who were gonna who are gonna thank for 519 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 1: their corporate support? Michael, I think I think you all 520 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 1: know it's part points you know that you guys, you 521 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 1: played with them. I have in great guys. By now, 522 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:24,679 Speaker 1: the listeners are hired of hearing about my rounds at 523 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 1: Prairie Dunes with the part points guys. They were delightful, 524 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 1: but it has been played pod have you? Have you 525 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:32,720 Speaker 1: said that the other day? Now? I haven't. That's a shocker. 526 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:37,200 Speaker 1: You gotta do some way. You go very often, you know, 527 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:39,400 Speaker 1: but don't you work in the Midwestern time to time? 528 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 1: It's not that far from a dayna I gu anyway, 529 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:46,120 Speaker 1: what time do you get up this morning to watch 530 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:51,959 Speaker 1: about five o'clock? That's I'm getting old. So that's kind 531 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,880 Speaker 1: of the most normal top now, and that's why I'm 532 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:56,400 Speaker 1: in the same boat. It's so sad of you lose 533 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 1: ability of sleep it on ear lately. No, we're probably 534 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 1: putting the listeners to sleep, so we're gonna them go. 535 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 1: But it's been a blast podcasting with you, sir, and 536 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 1: with you as well, Jeff. We'll do this again from 537 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 1: the the U S Open, which is coming in Hot 538 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 1: in three weeks. Yea from Allen and I saw McGinley 539 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 1: on the way and that guy knows a lot about golf. 540 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 1: He's fantastic And yeah, I love him, but the unsung 541 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 1: hero of golf commentary I think we all know is Ogilvie. Yes, 542 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 1: this has been a pleasure. It has a lot of fun, 543 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:30,399 Speaker 1: really insightful. So thank you for your time, Jeff, Michael, 544 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 1: thanks for all, thank thank you for all your good cheer. 545 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 1: First big week at the collective. You brought it. Yeah, 546 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 1: what we gotta do is type type of one more 547 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 1: story as she's called a night Now. I'm sad, all right, 548 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,439 Speaker 1: this is yeah, this has been fun. So signing off 549 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 1: from Yeah, signing off from one last fire drill here 550 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:48,959 Speaker 1: at Southern Hills, allan ship duck, Michael Bamberger, Jeff Ogilvie, 551 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,200 Speaker 1: thanks for listening and we'll be back at you in 552 00:24:51,280 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 1: a matter of weeks. From the U s Open. Put 553 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 1: another log on the fire. Nobody here is get the time.