1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: Yea and hello again everyone, and welcome to Big Blue 2 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: Kickoff Live here, brought to you by Chords Light as 3 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:20,079 Speaker 1: always right here on Giants dot Com. As always, I 4 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:23,240 Speaker 1: am Russ SALBG along with my buddy two time former 5 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 1: Super Bowl champion David Deal across the way taking care 6 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: of us at the controls the lovely Nicole Barrows, and 7 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 1: of course we've got you the fans to talk to. Again. 8 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 1: The number is always is two A one four five 9 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 1: one three. That's two zero one five one three. Coming up, 10 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 1: it is the New York Jets, as I was discussing 11 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 1: yesterday David with Paul, and you've heard me say this 12 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:54,639 Speaker 1: in the past. You've said it as well. Just win 13 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 1: the damn game by any means necessary. Absolutely. I mean 14 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 1: that's sets to the point right now. When you're sitting 15 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 1: here as a Giants team at two and seven, playing 16 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 1: up against a one and seven Jets team on a 17 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 1: short week, make the corrections. Whenever you lose. I always 18 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:11,839 Speaker 1: say this, whenever you lose, don't lose the lesson because 19 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 1: that's still film out there that other teams are going 20 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 1: to try to exploit of what you just did on 21 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:20,119 Speaker 1: Monday night football. So this is a week where it's 22 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 1: all about the mental preparation more than physical because you 23 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:28,479 Speaker 1: can't really hit, and making sure in your preparation you 24 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:30,959 Speaker 1: hammer out everything that you can so you can go 25 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 1: into this game. Play relaxed, play competent, confident, play free 26 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:40,919 Speaker 1: and run and hit and play fundamental football because these 27 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:43,679 Speaker 1: are the games that are won by that on a 28 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 1: short week. Listen, you've been through it. What was your 29 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 1: last year? I'm trying my last year, so uh you played? Okay, 30 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 1: so you live. I've been a part of this. You 31 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 1: live through that. In two thousand and twelve, I believe 32 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 1: it was the six game losing streaks start the season, 33 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 1: and then the following season we had the seven game 34 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 1: losing streak. Once a season got going, Uh what what 35 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 1: goes on in the mind of an athlete? And you 36 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: know what it's like. You're sitting there, you're coming into 37 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: your locker after a game, you're in the locker room 38 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 1: after practice as we were today. Uh, I'll use the 39 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:26,640 Speaker 1: term the vultures. The buzzage is swarming. H of course, 40 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 1: you know everybody's asking the same question, how are you 41 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 1: going to stop this? They're asking a coach is the 42 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 1: same question what's going through the players mind? Well, number 43 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 1: one is getting your your play right. That should be 44 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 1: number one. The first thing on your mind is correcting 45 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: the things individually that you have to correct as a 46 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 1: player and as a group collectively. But in no way, 47 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:52,359 Speaker 1: shape or form during this time do you just let 48 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 1: go and let loose and just not care Because you 49 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 1: understand the magnitude of the situation that you're in. You 50 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 1: understand that even in adverse times in football games like 51 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: this one up against the Cowboys, there were still opportunities 52 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 1: to win the football game. That's the frustrating part of it. 53 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 1: So for this Giants team and for you as an 54 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 1: individual player, things maybe going not the way that you 55 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 1: want them to. But you, as a player and as 56 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 1: a football team can do things to correct those mistakes. 57 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 1: And you also know that if this is the point 58 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:31,079 Speaker 1: in the season when you're two and seven, the character 59 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 1: of you as an athlete, as a competitor, as a 60 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: player is shown by your actions, not by what you say, 61 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 1: not by what people think about you, but the film 62 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 1: and the way that you perform on the field. Because 63 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 1: at the end of this year, there's gonna be thirty 64 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 1: one teams looking at that same film, and either you're 65 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 1: going to be a part of the solution for the 66 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: Giants and another football team, or you are the problem 67 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 1: and you will not be a part of the NFL. 68 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 1: That's the severity of where things are actor. Well. I 69 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 1: will say this, back in your day, Uh, when you 70 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: were going through those streaks, I never saw ugliness in 71 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 1: the locker room. I didn't see, guys. The only time 72 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 1: I saw the ugliness in the locker room was my 73 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 1: rookie season two thousand and three. We lost eight straight, 74 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 1: but with four games left, Jim Fossil was going to 75 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 1: be no longer the head coach the following season tons 76 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: of injuries. That's the only time that I really saw 77 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:29,839 Speaker 1: a locker room just completely shut down. That's the only 78 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:32,719 Speaker 1: time in my eleven years in this Yeah, and you 79 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 1: know again, I just came from the locker room, folks, 80 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:40,719 Speaker 1: and uh, you know there remaining upbeat. They're they're doing 81 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: it their work, They're saying what they can say, and 82 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 1: they're saying what I mean. It's like what I asked him, 83 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 1: the questions how are you feeling today? It's like I'm 84 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: saying to myself, what the hell am I asking him 85 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 1: a question? Focus. I know what the answer. I mean exactly, 86 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 1: they're aggravated there they they they're one f bomb after 87 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 1: another between their ears. That's that's how I feel, without 88 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:02,599 Speaker 1: a doubt. I mean, that's the thing. You can only 89 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 1: say so much. You know how it feels. You know 90 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 1: where they're at. They know exactly where they're at. But 91 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 1: the only thing that can turn things around is playing 92 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 1: winning competitive football and coming off of the field against 93 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 1: the Jets victorious. That's the only thing that will change 94 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 1: that complexion. That's the only type of way you can do. 95 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 1: One thing about that I saw in the locker room 96 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 1: that I didn't like just a few minutes ago was 97 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 1: watching um Evan Ingram walking around in a walking and 98 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 1: now you got Evan in a walking boot and asking 99 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:38,479 Speaker 1: Evan how you feeling goes could be worth? So that's 100 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 1: I guess that's good news. But the bad news is 101 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 1: a very important weapon is in a walking boot. You know, 102 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:51,039 Speaker 1: um ah Sterling Shepherd's not gonna play, So already you 103 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 1: have two important weapons uh not lined up. I mean, 104 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 1: I I'd be shocked if I the one that those 105 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 1: two guys playing. But that right now highlights where Darius 106 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 1: Slayton Golden Tate Fowler. The rest of this group have 107 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:10,599 Speaker 1: to pick up their game in order to fulfill those needs, 108 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 1: especially when we're talking about Evan Ingram, who is creating 109 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 1: those matchups that you are looking for that are favorable 110 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 1: up against linebackers and safeties. Two zero one four or 111 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 1: five one three You mentioned receiver. I mentioned another one 112 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 1: just before we get gone, because Paul and I spoke 113 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:29,359 Speaker 1: about him yesterday and he deserves to be applauded again. 114 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 1: The outstanding job, Cody Latimer, no question, not good outstanding. 115 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:38,719 Speaker 1: I mean you think about the first half of this 116 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:41,559 Speaker 1: game up against the Cowboys. The Giants offense starting field 117 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 1: position was at the forty three. You can't ask for 118 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 1: anything more out of your defense, get into two takeaways 119 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 1: and your special team setting you up where you have 120 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 1: opportunities to expand and open up your playbook as long 121 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 1: as you take care of business and don't chase chains 122 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 1: and become yourself in the third and lung. It's like 123 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 1: what took place, all right? As we to zero one 124 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:03,839 Speaker 1: four or five one three is the number again. Big 125 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 1: Blue Kickoff live here brought to you by as always 126 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 1: course Light. 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I want 137 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 1: to talk about now right And I also got an 138 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: hold line question um like serma he got to go 139 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 1: five in a row. That hasn't does Listen? My thing 140 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 1: is this, I think they die. What they need they 141 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 1: need a head coach, you know, they need a head coach. 142 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 1: Like the last head coach we had was was was 143 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 1: was was your coach? There was Tom Coffin. What we need? 144 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 1: If you remember, Travis, we were we were just talking 145 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 1: about and yet yes Tom has the two Super Bowls. 146 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 1: But if you remember, Travis, uh, he'll attest to David 147 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 1: will attest to it. There was a six game losing 148 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 1: streak in two thousand and twelve, followed by a seven 149 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 1: game losing streak in two thousand and thirteen. Those things happened. 150 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 1: This is a complete You were a new system, new 151 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 1: newly brought in, lots of new players, lots of young players. 152 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 1: Let's let's not sit here and beat up you know, 153 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 1: the coach, because it's not happening right now anyway. So 154 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 1: what's your question for what's your question for David on 155 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 1: the old line? Well, to my question, the old line 156 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 1: right playing like tackle, let's let's tackle right? Um, how 157 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 1: much like? How much do because I always like for 158 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 1: the running game, right is it? It? Is it important 159 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 1: sort of old like? Okay for your tackles for him 160 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 1: to be like good one blockers. Right, that's only when 161 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 1: you're running back is running outside? No, that is not correct. 162 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 1: You know. One of the things that people think when 163 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 1: you talk about an inside run game, the most imperative 164 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 1: thing to get yardage that front side offensive tackle. Let's 165 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 1: say your zone zone run left inside. The most important 166 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 1: thing for to start that off is that the left 167 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 1: tackle moves the defensive end that way. They don't edge 168 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 1: and cave the defense to where the entire flow of 169 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:38,679 Speaker 1: the defense it is coming. So a lot of people 170 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 1: put that focus on the you know, the center and 171 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 1: guard making sure they edge the nose or the tackle 172 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: and getting up to the second level. But if you're 173 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 1: runningn inside zone and that frontside tackle doesn't move the 174 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 1: defensive end, nine times out of ten, that ball is 175 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 1: getting bounced back to the backside to where the defense 176 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 1: is actually coming from. Okay, because he's got to expand 177 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 1: he's got to expand the defensive end so that he 178 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 1: doesn't get edged and everything's forced back inside. If you 179 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 1: get movement on the defensive end, it winds everything out 180 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 1: and a lot of times with that happening, linebackers can 181 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 1: overrun the play by the movement of the offensive line, 182 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 1: right right, Okay, cool, all right, But but here's my 183 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:22,839 Speaker 1: thing about Sherman. Right, yes, they're young, so they're gonna 184 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 1: play like like these kids't gonna play. What I'm saying is, 185 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 1: I don't think Sherman has to do like you know, 186 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 1: all right, they move right, So let's say Sunday, right, 187 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 1: whereas you take an older team, they're already might throw 188 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 1: it in there, they already might throw in the towel, right, 189 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 1: But you can take a young team like like us, 190 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 1: like they're gonna come out and play. I don't think 191 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 1: that has anything to do with Sherman. I just think 192 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 1: was so when it comes down to coaches, I don't listen, Travis, Okay, 193 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 1: I hear what you're saying. You and I can't agree 194 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 1: to disagree. Uh Listen, I don't think the coach. The 195 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 1: coach will tell you, Uh, the GM will tell you. 196 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 1: Nobody gets a pass. Everybody has held accountable, from the 197 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:11,719 Speaker 1: top to the bottom to the water boys. Everybody is 198 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 1: held accountable. But when you start you want to talk 199 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 1: about plays or this and that, you know, think about it, 200 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 1: and the coach would say it. Coach told us to 201 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 1: us last week. I said it, David. We were talking 202 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 1: about it last week. David and I were talking about it. Here. 203 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:33,200 Speaker 1: You gotta stop giving up the explosive plays and defense 204 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 1: and what the hell happened? Not one? Not too and 205 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, you know, and on the first explosive play, 206 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 1: which was the forty two yard touchdown by Jarwin, I mean, 207 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: what ended it up? Happened at the end of it. 208 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 1: You saw your generous Jenkins, you know, make a pass 209 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 1: instead of a tackle, or how about the defensive penalties. Yeah, 210 00:11:55,200 --> 00:12:00,679 Speaker 1: so so I mean, come on, you know, you know 211 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 1: what you're saying about the excellent old right, Okay, so 212 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 1: let's not talk because it's true, like like you take, 213 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 1: you take week too. If we don't if we score 214 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 1: on the old line, nobody's saying I mean, on the 215 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:14,959 Speaker 1: goal one, nobody's saying nothing. Right, you don't score, you'll 216 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 1: be calling the next day we draving Travis. Forget about 217 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 1: week two? Brother, how about how about this past Monday night. 218 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 1: You've got four trips inside the red zone from the 219 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 1: to the seventh eight and the ten we're not talking 220 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 1: for from the twenty. We're talking for from the ten. 221 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 1: Come on, right, okay, so let's take that out Let's 222 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:41,200 Speaker 1: take that outlet. That's a lot to take out. No, no, 223 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:43,319 Speaker 1: but I mean but I mean far as because so 224 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 1: just stopping me and saying, let's not do excells and 225 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:48,840 Speaker 1: old and I'm agreeing, let's not do exces old for 226 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:51,439 Speaker 1: me to like try to come at Sherma. But I'm 227 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 1: asking you this question. I don't know how honest you 228 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 1: can be. Right, but if we don't go five and 229 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 1: eleven this ship and we can go subparse that you 230 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:02,320 Speaker 1: do you mean to tell me if Mike McCarthy is 231 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 1: out there, Mike Travis, I mean not now you're bringing 232 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:12,959 Speaker 1: up the stuff that people are talking about in the papers. Travis, 233 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 1: listen to me, to hit and Travis Travis, Travis, this 234 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 1: is what you're gonna have to face. And thanks buddy 235 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 1: for the call, But this is what you're gonna have 236 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:26,560 Speaker 1: to face. You have a coach who came into he 237 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 1: is now in his second year. Let's say this doesn't 238 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 1: get better. Okay, let's let's God forbid say this doesn't 239 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 1: get better. All right? And I think you're gonna agree 240 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:39,439 Speaker 1: with me if it doesn't get better, this coach, this 241 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 1: is the big transition year they came in. Last year 242 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 1: was the first year cleaning out a lot of stuff. 243 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 1: This was the big transition year with the new quarterback 244 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 1: and new people in place. Next year, if you want 245 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:53,680 Speaker 1: to tell me the clock is ticking, I'll buy that, 246 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:57,319 Speaker 1: But not this year. And it all depends on how 247 00:13:57,320 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 1: it plays out. I mean, I don't see this happening. 248 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 1: You don't see this happening. But if it's a complete 249 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 1: catastrophe at the end of the year, people not giving 250 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 1: effort and there's a complete loss of the football team. 251 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 1: That's a whole another story. That's that that's a whole 252 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 1: different story than once the you know, Travis, that's a 253 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 1: good point. You know it's this might sound stupid and 254 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 1: you might say, well, what the hell, but one of 255 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 1: the things last year which nobody wants to hear about. 256 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 1: I know the fans don't want to hear about it. 257 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 1: David understands it is when the team was one and seven, 258 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 1: and I believe me, I noticed ownership and everybody was watching. 259 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 1: Nobody was quitting, and the locker room remained together, and 260 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 1: you had your controversies and what nothing changed on that. 261 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 1: So David's that's a real good point. There could be 262 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 1: a three and thirteen or big you know, five and 263 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 1: eleven whatever, and how you lost to get you there 264 00:14:57,680 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 1: could be a big thing, but we talked about it. 265 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 1: Don't think that's not going to happen to this football team. 266 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 1: And the fact that they're a young football team is 267 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 1: another reason why that won't happen. Because they realized the 268 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 1: opportunity that was granted to him, and this is something 269 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 1: that is a privilege, not a right, and these young 270 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 1: guys understand that because of the way that they've seen 271 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 1: things go in and out, players getting traded the way 272 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 1: that they they understand the magnitude of this business. At 273 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 1: this point, I'd say so big time. Two zero, one, five, 274 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 1: one three is the number. Let's go down to Pennsylvania 275 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 1: check in with our friend Joe. Hey, Joe, you're around 276 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 1: with Russ and David. Hi, guys, the word is frustrated, 277 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 1: just like you were using, you know, frustrated with the offense, 278 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 1: frustrated with the defense, frustrated with the officials. Let me 279 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 1: ask you first, David, there shooting or our offensive line 280 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 1: had twenty to thirty pounds on their defensive line. Guys, 281 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 1: should they be off the ball first and be able 282 00:15:56,400 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 1: to stop the defensive line guys at least from uh 283 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 1: getting into the gaps and right into the backfield. Can't 284 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 1: they fire? Shouldn't they be firing out first? You know. 285 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 1: One of the things that was happening, and one of 286 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 1: the reasons why that was taking place, was the way 287 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 1: that the veer, the dark, the slants, the movement of 288 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys defensive line. It wasn't like they were 289 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 1: two gapping, holding up and letting their offensive line get 290 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 1: on it. There's a lot of movement and stunts and 291 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 1: games up front, and you would see that some of 292 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 1: that stuff pre snap. You see the defensive end slide 293 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:32,119 Speaker 1: from outside to a head up, or the three technique 294 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 1: moved to a two eye. That was something that they 295 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 1: were doing pre snap, trying to change the look. So 296 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 1: that's why we're for you as an offensive line where 297 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 1: it's imperative that you get run game going so that 298 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 1: when they are slanting like that where you run bootlegs 299 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 1: and nakeds off of it, and the play action passing 300 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 1: games because then you have a whole wide open side 301 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 1: of the field. So it is I mean, that's a 302 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 1: part of it, but you definitely have to make sure 303 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 1: that when you have movement by a defensive line that 304 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 1: you as an offensive line come for the ball with 305 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 1: proper footwalk, not just far firing off. Making sure that 306 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 1: you're taking proper landmarks to beat them to the spots 307 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 1: that they're trying to get you. Yeah, I just saying 308 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:12,359 Speaker 1: if I could see now and then, but it just 309 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:14,439 Speaker 1: seems like we can't beat them once. You know, we 310 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:16,440 Speaker 1: have to wait on them, you know what I mean. 311 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 1: I know Dallas would especially before. Man, they killed us 312 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:22,680 Speaker 1: with all them stunts and stuff like that first game, 313 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 1: and that, I mean, it's so just so frustrating. Not 314 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:31,400 Speaker 1: at defense. There's gotta be a way, honestly, on that 315 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 1: we can stop a third and fourteen. I mean, Baker, 316 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 1: I mean, they were manning up on the guys and 317 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:40,880 Speaker 1: then we had too deep safety and he just left. 318 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 1: He took Cooper to about ten yards up the field 319 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:47,160 Speaker 1: and just left him go and it was wide open 320 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 1: for him to cut it right across the field and 321 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:54,120 Speaker 1: then Dallas's quarterback had a free shot opened to get 322 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 1: him where the safeties were back. I mean, you know, 323 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 1: it's assignment and is the god I or you could 324 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 1: put in the defense to stop this here I not 325 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 1: knowing their assignments leaving that go. It's well frustrating, you 326 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:11,520 Speaker 1: know what, Joe. I'll let the expert, the football player, 327 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 1: talk more on that, but I'll just give you my 328 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:18,159 Speaker 1: opinion watching it. Teams make big plays, okay, but but 329 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 1: one of the thing that frustrates me. If you're gonna 330 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 1: let a guy catch a twenty yard passive yard pass, 331 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 1: so he's catching the twenty five yard pass, don't let 332 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:32,680 Speaker 1: it turn into forty yards and yards. Okay, he caught 333 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:36,119 Speaker 1: the bullet at the midfield close, make the tax, make 334 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 1: the tackle, don't let him get down to That's the 335 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 1: to me, that's the big thing that that is more 336 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:46,439 Speaker 1: frustrating than anything. I mean, I mean, I know, you 337 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 1: we could design defense is that to stop a third 338 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:52,399 Speaker 1: and fourteen? If I put two or three men on 339 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:56,919 Speaker 1: the line, another three three guys guys back five ten yards, 340 00:18:57,000 --> 00:19:00,439 Speaker 1: another three guys they're three or four ba there and 341 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 1: stay in your zones. You could stop him if you know, 342 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 1: miss the tackle and stay there. I mean, it's just 343 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 1: so frustrating. I mean, we should be able to stop 344 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 1: you know, third and long. It's you know, then the 345 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:17,160 Speaker 1: officials the last one, I want to whatever they're uh, 346 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:20,160 Speaker 1: you know he was, I have stop action where where 347 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 1: uh the Dallas uh defender was all over the back 348 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 1: of Ingram The ball hain't even in his sight yet 349 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 1: And they review it and you know what I mean, 350 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 1: it's disgusting. Then a few plays later they call it 351 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 1: on hand things here. You know, it's disgusting. You know, 352 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 1: I don't know what to say. It's just also frustrating. 353 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 1: But but we got to get our assignments. That's what 354 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 1: going to what kills me the most. You know, if 355 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 1: we get beat, all right, but it just seems like 356 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 1: we're just not we're out of position. The same thing 357 00:19:55,640 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 1: when what's his name is running the ball for for Dallas, 358 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 1: it just seems he runs one way and if it's 359 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 1: blocked up, he just cuts right back and nobody's there 360 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:11,399 Speaker 1: for gap in integrity, holding up the end or nothing 361 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 1: like that. It's just the assignment. It's that's what frustrates 362 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:21,119 Speaker 1: me the most, you know. And yeah, Joe, welcome to 363 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 1: the club of frustration. I think that is, uh, that's 364 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:26,360 Speaker 1: the case right now, my friend. But thanks for the call. 365 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 1: That's the case. And in frustration is the oupitive word 366 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:31,119 Speaker 1: in Big Blue Nations, and that's, you know, to go 367 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 1: along with Joe is obviously, when you have a young 368 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:35,919 Speaker 1: team like we do on our Giants team, you know, 369 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:38,119 Speaker 1: there's times that you're gonna get beat. There's times that 370 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 1: things are gonna happen. I mean, guys on the other 371 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:42,879 Speaker 1: side of the field get paid just like you do. 372 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 1: But the thing at this point, when we're talking about 373 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 1: week nine, week ten, still talking about assignments, that's something 374 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 1: that you can't just accept. Alignment and assignment are the 375 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 1: two basic things that you have to go into a 376 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 1: game playing and play out and be confident with through 377 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:02,200 Speaker 1: your pre operation. Those are things that you can't lack. 378 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:05,440 Speaker 1: Gotta beat you physically, that's one thing, but it shouldn't 379 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 1: be because you didn't know what to do. Again, um, 380 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 1: I'll ask you that is that? What is that? Is that? 381 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 1: Not doing it? Doing your homework? Is that youth? What 382 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 1: is that? I think? I mean number one, it's it's 383 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:24,879 Speaker 1: doing your homework has got to be the president moving 384 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:28,440 Speaker 1: forward here, because you can't use those as excuses anymore. 385 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 1: At this point. You've played a ton of football in 386 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:33,159 Speaker 1: this system and you've got to be able to adapt 387 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 1: and adjust moving forward, knowing that, like DeAndre Baker, you're 388 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 1: getting targeted. So you've got to make those adjustments. Youth happens, 389 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 1: but at the same time, you've got to see the 390 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 1: progress from players and what they can do mentally, not 391 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:51,679 Speaker 1: just physically. Speaking of DeAndre Baker again, we discussed this yesterday. Uh, 392 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 1: I will mention this and I said it flat out 393 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 1: yesterday and I'll stick to my guns. The officiating in 394 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 1: the National Football League right now, it's not questionable. I 395 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,439 Speaker 1: think it stinks. Oh yeah, I'm seeing it on a 396 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:06,640 Speaker 1: regular basis, and those two plays, you know, and it's 397 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 1: not because they're back to back to back Ingram was 398 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:13,879 Speaker 1: definitely it was passed into Ferenc. He was slammed in 399 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 1: the back before the ball was the one hand fighting. 400 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:22,119 Speaker 1: It was stupid. It didn't reroute him, it didn't change 401 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:24,360 Speaker 1: his direction or his ability to get to the football. 402 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:28,400 Speaker 1: It's it's it's got to be fixed. Yeah, this whole 403 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:30,920 Speaker 1: pass interference thing, I mean, it was the worst thing. 404 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:33,879 Speaker 1: It was a knee jerk reaction. And I believe you 405 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:38,400 Speaker 1: and I have discussed this. It's gonna come to a explosion. 406 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:42,200 Speaker 1: Comes the Super Bowl, You're gonna get one of those plays, 407 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 1: and believe me, watch what's gonna happen on that anyway. 408 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 1: Two five, one three is the number. Let's go down 409 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 1: to Dallas and check in with Jamal. Hello, Jamal, you're 410 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:56,920 Speaker 1: on with Russ and David. We're going on. Appreciate taking 411 00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 1: a call. What's going on? What's up? I got a 412 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:01,879 Speaker 1: still going. I gotta let me go. I'm gonna try 413 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 1: to be quick and short with so so David Dale 414 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 1: and being a football player myself, you know, in the 415 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:10,880 Speaker 1: collegian love of something like that you gotta tell me. 416 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:14,160 Speaker 1: But what your Norris Jenkins did in the last game, 417 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:20,400 Speaker 1: the two tackles, like, come on, that's that right there. Effort, 418 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 1: that's lack of effort. I mean, all you have to 419 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 1: do is throw your body into somebody with your head 420 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 1: up and and you slow him up. I mean I 421 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:33,119 Speaker 1: blame those two coffee plays, not necessarily on him. I 422 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 1: mean those big plays. He gave up on the gallup 423 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:38,919 Speaker 1: play and that jar, that jar one one was a 424 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 1: complete momentum switch in that football game. Immediately. I had 425 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 1: a discussion yesterday Jamal. By the way, Jamal, how how 426 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 1: a guy Jamal in Dallas end up a Giants fan? 427 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,159 Speaker 1: I just want to know. But I've been on I'm 428 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 1: a military brand. My dad was a Giant fan, so 429 00:23:57,520 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 1: so am I. Jamal. My dad was in the Air Force. 430 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 1: I all your buddy, all right, But I tell everybody 431 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,680 Speaker 1: my dad raised in their right way Cowboys. I go 432 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 1: to the Cowboy Giant game every year when the Giants 433 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 1: come in town. So my boy, we'll make sure you 434 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:13,200 Speaker 1: tell your dad that I said thank you for a 435 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 1: service as well. What else do you got that appreciate it? 436 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 1: But right now, man, yeah, and I'm a genority fan. 437 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 1: I was happy when we got him. But to me, 438 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,440 Speaker 1: that's unexcusable. I mean, as an athlete, you know, you're 439 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 1: getting paid the money you getting paid, and then you're 440 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 1: playing the sport that you supposed you love, like all 441 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 1: it takes effort just get the guy down. Yeah, I mean, 442 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:35,639 Speaker 1: like to me that you're expecting the game when you 443 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:39,360 Speaker 1: do that, you understand. I thought that play in itself, 444 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 1: and I had a debate with somebody on it yesterday. 445 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 1: Everybody people, somebody was talking about, well, you know the 446 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,120 Speaker 1: interception at the end of the half, uh, and then 447 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:49,919 Speaker 1: that led to a field goal and then you went in, 448 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 1: you know, down And my argument was Jamala and David here, like, 449 00:24:55,680 --> 00:25:00,119 Speaker 1: to me, you know what was demoralizing was that play us? 450 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,119 Speaker 1: Even though it made it twelve ten and yet the 451 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 1: Giant still had to lead. It was like here we 452 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 1: go again. It's just oh, it's like now you start questioning, 453 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 1: You're right right, It's like yell like come on, you 454 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:16,439 Speaker 1: gotta give the effort. So my next thing, all right, 455 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:18,880 Speaker 1: I know people were getting fired up with Shermer. This 456 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 1: is hot thing. We don't benk Eli because we felt 457 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:24,399 Speaker 1: elo wasn't giving us what we needed, right, Okay, we 458 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:27,440 Speaker 1: put the young boy in Daniel Jones. Okay, I'm okay 459 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 1: with that. But now now it's called self reflection. All right, 460 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:33,680 Speaker 1: I'm having struggled with this offense this and this is 461 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:35,400 Speaker 1: not going. I'm not saying we need to fire him, 462 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:37,880 Speaker 1: but either gentleman or Marning the step and be like, look, 463 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:41,439 Speaker 1: maybe you needed to focus on head coaching stuff and 464 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:44,399 Speaker 1: let Shula do offensive stuff. And maybe you can so 465 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:46,719 Speaker 1: I know they consult with each other stuff like that, 466 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 1: but maybe Sula just needed to be our full o 467 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 1: see and Shermer take on the other game if he 468 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:53,640 Speaker 1: wanted the challenge players, he wants to do this time 469 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,439 Speaker 1: management because I'm feeling like when it comes out to 470 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:59,719 Speaker 1: the fourth corner, fourth quarter and panic mode. Now you're 471 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 1: trying to figure out when do I challenge? Now, I 472 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 1: gotta call it play Now, I gotta do this. You 473 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:05,439 Speaker 1: can see. You can see it on the from the 474 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:08,200 Speaker 1: TV because his mind is going and it's like, maybe 475 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 1: it's too much for him to take on. Let somebody 476 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 1: else shope you out. Well, I think he needs to 477 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,880 Speaker 1: reflect and maybe somebody needs to let him know. Look, man, 478 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 1: maybe taking on too much. It's a strength but also 479 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 1: a weakness. Maybe the scale back and you focus on 480 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:25,400 Speaker 1: the team and they're super focus on the O C job. Well, 481 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 1: you know what, Jamal, I'm not gonna I mean, that's 482 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 1: been a debate forever and ever in the football world, 483 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:39,679 Speaker 1: a debate forever and ever. I don't know, Jamal, And 484 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:41,880 Speaker 1: thank you for the call, buddy. I don't know if 485 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 1: if there's a right or wrong, because I will remember this. 486 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 1: I will remember this when a fellow by the name 487 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 1: of Jim Fossil took the plate calling away from a 488 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 1: pretty good offensive coordinator by the name of Sean Payton, 489 00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:00,119 Speaker 1: and subsequently they went to the Super Bowl. You know, 490 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 1: I just you know what, when it's working, it's a 491 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,879 Speaker 1: great idea, and when it's not working, it sucks. And 492 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 1: but the thing that goes along with that when you're 493 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:12,159 Speaker 1: doing it is the dependability and trust that you have 494 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 1: in your defensive coordinator. You know you just said about 495 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:19,120 Speaker 1: Jim Fossil taken over and relieving Sean Payton. Well, John 496 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:22,119 Speaker 1: Fox was his defensive coordinator who he knew was a 497 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 1: pedigree soon to be head coach that he didn't have 498 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 1: to worry about the defensive side of the ball. It's 499 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:30,639 Speaker 1: no different when Matt Naggie had Vic Fangio who had experience, 500 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,160 Speaker 1: and now he has his experience as well. You look 501 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,359 Speaker 1: at the way that Sean McVeigh has Wade Phillips, who 502 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 1: as a former head coach. When you do that and 503 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,880 Speaker 1: if you do have that type of hat, your defense 504 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 1: has to be playing well. And unfortunately, for right now, 505 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 1: the Giants defense isn't playing in in cohesion with the offense, 506 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,679 Speaker 1: which puts more precedent on the head coach and the 507 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 1: ability to be able to do everything with you offense. 508 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:56,399 Speaker 1: Good point, Chief, good point to zero one four or 509 00:27:56,440 --> 00:28:00,920 Speaker 1: five one three. Let's stay local now and from Dallas 510 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:04,360 Speaker 1: back to New Jersey and check in with Nick. Hello, Nick, 511 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:08,160 Speaker 1: you're on with Russ And what what's up? Guys? How 512 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,959 Speaker 1: are you a long time Giants fans season ticket holder? 513 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,439 Speaker 1: You know, I watched the game's tape and when I 514 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 1: go home see miss tackles everything like that. Well, I 515 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 1: got a couple of points I want to make here 516 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 1: that you know he's driving me crazy. You know what 517 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 1: I mean, Big Baker, You know, Jim fork Winner, There's 518 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 1: never been another cornerback rated as high sin that played 519 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,400 Speaker 1: that poor league never in the history of the NFL. 520 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,159 Speaker 1: I mean, he's gonna be a probably he's gonna end 521 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,200 Speaker 1: up being a bus But we're gonna have to wait 522 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 1: and see. That's one old line Ramer's career journeyman. You know, 523 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 1: it's been on the seventh team whatever. I mean, Giants 524 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 1: picked him up hoping they were gonna do something with him. 525 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 1: Nothing and Pat, let's what's the space go. He's on 526 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 1: the downturns. I mean, David, you know all about downturns 527 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 1: and upturns when you're when you you know, when you're 528 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 1: playing well, when you're not playing well the paths. Let 529 00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 1: him go. Let him go for a reason. We paid 530 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 1: them all this mon me. Right now, the Giants to 531 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 1: the last two thousand twelve have been consistently losing. Two 532 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 1: thousand and twelve, we're that's seven years in the blink 533 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 1: of a n eye. We've become the Giants of the seventies. Okay, 534 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 1: ten years from now, you're gonna look back and say, oh, 535 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 1: the Giants and two thousand tens, they're you know, they're 536 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 1: pretty horrible, just like we talked about the seventies. Right now, 537 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,480 Speaker 1: Paul keeps talking about this is our second phase of 538 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 1: a rebuild. How is this the second phase of a 539 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 1: rebuild when we're like six players seven players away? You 540 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 1: know what I mean? This is not a rebuild. This 541 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 1: is a catastrophe. Catastrophe. Well, Nick, Nick, he's and Paul, 542 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 1: thanks for the call, Nick. But Paul was talking about 543 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 1: because I was sitting next to when he was talking 544 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 1: about it. Last year was year one. This is year two. 545 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 1: I mean you you brought in the players. We're talking 546 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 1: about a roster that doesn't have a draft pick from O. Yeah, 547 00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 1: there is a rebuild that is taking place in that 548 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 1: has been taking place. Look at the turn turnaround of 549 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 1: the roster from last year to this year. How many 550 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:10,720 Speaker 1: new faces and players think about it. It's it's a 551 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 1: completely different roster. So when you see those changes and 552 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 1: you see the changes to the team, you know that 553 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 1: there is part of the rebuild going through. With two 554 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 1: draft classes now under way and now next year thinking 555 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 1: another draft class, and having pretty much close to a 556 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 1: hundred million dollars in salary for free agency, that's something 557 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 1: that they haven't had in a long time. Yeah, and 558 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 1: I really think it's unfair to label uh DeAndre Baker 559 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 1: a bust or even to say its first season and uh, 560 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 1: you know for a good while. You know, after the 561 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 1: first couple of games he was playing well yeah, and 562 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 1: you know he had a okay, I'm not saying, I'm 563 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 1: not excusing it. Bad game is a bad game, but 564 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 1: to say it's a bust, I mean, now we're getting 565 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 1: a little I want to see how he bounces back, yeah, yeah, 566 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 1: to sign How does he bounce back for this game? 567 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 1: That's another thing. Exactly how does he bounce back? Does 568 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 1: he go sit in a corner and salt or does 569 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 1: he get angry and do something about it? And quite frankly, 570 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,720 Speaker 1: one of the things they like about him is his makeup. 571 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,400 Speaker 1: He is. He's not, you know, gonna sit in the 572 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 1: corner like a wounded puppy dog and say what we 573 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 1: make He really does? He really really does. Let's go 574 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,960 Speaker 1: down to our our friend in Columbia, Maryland. You know 575 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 1: who that is, David, don't you? Lenn? Hello Lenn, you're 576 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 1: on again with Russell and David. Hey guys, how you doing? 577 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 1: How you hey? Dave? I want to um, I want 578 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:38,720 Speaker 1: to take you back to uh Christmas Eve Day, December 579 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 1: two thousand eleven, the best regular season wins and Giants history. 580 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 1: We go on the road and beat I know you 581 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 1: were on the field. I know we laugh at that. 582 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 1: We were on the road, but it was at home. 583 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:57,720 Speaker 1: But we were the road. Weren't you excuse me a second, Dave, 584 00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 1: weren't you angry because they covered up all of our banners? Yeah? 585 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 1: So after the game needs ACTIOSI went out there and 586 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 1: ripped them down. Yeah, they had all of our Super 587 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:09,719 Speaker 1: Bowl trophies and logos covered up. I'm a completely different 588 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 1: in opposite side of the stadium of where their locker 589 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,680 Speaker 1: room and everything's at. Yeah. Yeah, Hey. And and the 590 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 1: one the one played David, the one player I remember, 591 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 1: and you played an insigal party and along with your 592 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 1: buddies along the offensive line yard of a cruise. He lied, 593 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 1: he lied deep in the end zone to make that 594 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 1: throw right on the mark the cruise who made a 595 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 1: couple of great moves and then outran the defense. But 596 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 1: the most important thing is that offensive line formed that 597 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 1: pocket gave e Lie the time. It's just a great play. 598 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 1: See my favorite play from that game is one of 599 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:47,240 Speaker 1: my brancha ran over their safety for the touchdown. Well, okay, Okay, yeah, yeah, 600 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,960 Speaker 1: but that one sticks, and that one sticks in my mind, 601 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 1: of course it does. Right before halftime. That was a 602 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 1: momentum builder for sure. Oh absolutely absolute. Well yeah, heck 603 00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 1: we went on one the Super Bowl. Yeah, and that one. 604 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 1: I think that win kind of launched us on the way. Um, 605 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 1: you know, Bakers a rookie. But let me let me 606 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 1: say this, he has to bounce back this weekend. And 607 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 1: when I say has to, because if he doesn't have 608 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 1: a good game this weekend, beal is going to start 609 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:21,360 Speaker 1: after the break. The possibility, let's see what happens. Let's 610 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,080 Speaker 1: see what happened. And that's why I was saying earlier 611 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 1: Land that this is a very crucial time to see 612 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,760 Speaker 1: the makeup of of DeAndre Baker to bounce back in 613 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 1: this football game, he has to have a good game. 614 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 1: If he doesn't, you know that they're gone. You know 615 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 1: he's going to be men. If he doesn't have a 616 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:37,960 Speaker 1: good game, will start after the break. You know that 617 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,760 Speaker 1: they're gonna put Robby Anderson right on that opposite side 618 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 1: for sure. Yeah. Hey, guys, here's his his his an understatement. 619 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,680 Speaker 1: Something's wrong with the run game? How about that? For 620 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 1: how about that? For insightful thinking. And David, I'd like 621 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 1: your opinion. I know Joe Pennsylvania kind of asked a 622 00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 1: couple of questions along the same lines here, But let 623 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 1: me let me, let me just ask something. Something's wrong. Um, 624 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,440 Speaker 1: these plays are not designed to lose two in four yards. 625 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 1: They're not designed to get stuffed up at the line 626 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:12,880 Speaker 1: of scrimmage. Um. Maybe it's maybe it's Barkley's injury, maybe 627 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,960 Speaker 1: the high ankle sprain. He can't cut like he you 628 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 1: know he could when he didn't have the ankle sprain. 629 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:22,360 Speaker 1: I know the other team is, you know, big and fast, 630 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:24,839 Speaker 1: even with Van der Esh off the field. I know 631 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 1: there's a you know, there's a there's a talent difference. Um, 632 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 1: maybe it's scheme. Uh, you know, David, are we tipping place? 633 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,360 Speaker 1: I mean, these plays are not designed to lose yardage, 634 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:39,719 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I'm not I'm not saying 635 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 1: they're designed to take it to the house. But I 636 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,359 Speaker 1: mean they were blowing a place like they knew what 637 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,080 Speaker 1: was coming. The thing that I've been saying, Lenn is 638 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:49,399 Speaker 1: for I think I've been saying this for about three 639 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:52,840 Speaker 1: or four weeks. And Russell attest to this. The lack 640 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:57,040 Speaker 1: of ability to run the football on the perimeter is 641 00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,759 Speaker 1: what has killed this running game. Think about the last 642 00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 1: time that you've seen a toss sweep or a play 643 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 1: run to the outside that has gotten an extended amount 644 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,480 Speaker 1: of yards. Well, if you can't edge the defense and 645 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 1: get those out there too, now you're forcing them to 646 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,920 Speaker 1: run sideline to sideline. They're gonna sit in at a 647 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:18,480 Speaker 1: condense front and they're gonna force everything from the outside in. 648 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,000 Speaker 1: And the other thing that I said that will help 649 00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,440 Speaker 1: and aids the run game and that they need to 650 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:26,520 Speaker 1: use more of it is deception. When you don't have 651 00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:30,800 Speaker 1: a physical running game downhill that is effective, the best 652 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,879 Speaker 1: way to get it going is by deception. They ran 653 00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:37,759 Speaker 1: the jet sweep to Slayton, who got six. They ran 654 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:41,200 Speaker 1: the double reverse to tape and got what was it 655 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:44,040 Speaker 1: fifteen or seventeen on it it was seventeen. Did you 656 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:46,560 Speaker 1: see any more of those throughout the game? If you 657 00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:51,360 Speaker 1: can get zone reads, read options inside zones with those motions, 658 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:54,759 Speaker 1: with those fake jet sweeps, what does it do. It 659 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:57,840 Speaker 1: makes a defense draw their eyes to something that is 660 00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,759 Speaker 1: deceiving them, and it gives you that split second of 661 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 1: hesitation that you need on the offensive line to get 662 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,280 Speaker 1: on them and make Hay that's something what they definitely 663 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,480 Speaker 1: need to do moving forward in order to get this 664 00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:12,040 Speaker 1: run game going. And you know what, let me let 665 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,640 Speaker 1: me just add to this, you know, before you make 666 00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:18,920 Speaker 1: your other point. Uh. In response to your question, Pat 667 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,920 Speaker 1: Sherman was asked that today by the media about what 668 00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:26,080 Speaker 1: is the problem is it? Is it the runner or 669 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,239 Speaker 1: is it the offensive line? Is it the runners of 670 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:37,839 Speaker 1: the offensive? Exactly? What it's they go hand in hand? Yeah, yeah, yeah, 671 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,880 Speaker 1: now you know, um, but the frustra you know, to 672 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,879 Speaker 1: share what what what Joe was saying, you know about 673 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 1: the frustration for for a generational back like like like Barkley, 674 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:53,600 Speaker 1: for for him to be held on the thirty yards David, 675 00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:58,640 Speaker 1: I mean, it's ridiculous. Well, but you know what then 676 00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,920 Speaker 1: we were talking about it, Uh, David brought it up. 677 00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:04,040 Speaker 1: We were talking about it. We were talking about him 678 00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:06,440 Speaker 1: a bit with you yesterday. I don't think he's a 679 00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:10,759 Speaker 1: well it could be, and that's why I started with 680 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,800 Speaker 1: maybe maybe the cutting is affected by the high ankle 681 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:17,359 Speaker 1: spraining and so forth. You know that as well. I'm 682 00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:20,000 Speaker 1: I'm I would you know, I would, I would, I 683 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,600 Speaker 1: would count that that's probably part of it. Maybe it's 684 00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:24,640 Speaker 1: a little bit of everything, but something's got to change. 685 00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:26,640 Speaker 1: We gotta get this run game, gotta get the run 686 00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:30,799 Speaker 1: game going. Hey, can I say one thing about the defense? Okay, 687 00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:34,360 Speaker 1: when I heard Elliot's comment after the ball game, what 688 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:36,759 Speaker 1: do you say, easiest hunt in forty yards I've ever 689 00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:40,440 Speaker 1: had to make in my career. I mean, man, that 690 00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:44,839 Speaker 1: made me angry. David. I mean, now, I don't know 691 00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:48,600 Speaker 1: maybe what coaches doing in this situation. Maybe maybe it's 692 00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:51,680 Speaker 1: a pick your poison situation. Let's see if we can 693 00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:55,879 Speaker 1: stop Prescott. We know Elliot's going to get us hunt 694 00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:58,359 Speaker 1: in yards, but if we can close down Prescott. Now 695 00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:00,640 Speaker 1: it didn't work, but if we close down Scott, maybe 696 00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:03,160 Speaker 1: we can win this game. Maybe it was a pick poisoning. 697 00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:09,400 Speaker 1: But if that's the case, and the other linebacker or 698 00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:13,040 Speaker 1: a defensive end, it wasn't a true I mean, we 699 00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:15,200 Speaker 1: had small guys on the edges. They were they were 700 00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:18,240 Speaker 1: killing a stated All right, Lenn, thank you for the call. Buddy. 701 00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:24,440 Speaker 1: Um you know what, listen, the operative word, as we 702 00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:27,160 Speaker 1: said before, you can hear with Lenn. You've heard it 703 00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:32,839 Speaker 1: with Joe. Frustration. It's frustration. The thing that frustrates me is, well, 704 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:38,200 Speaker 1: you have a generational running back and you're in the 705 00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:42,759 Speaker 1: ten you within the tenure oline four times, you can 706 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,400 Speaker 1: come only away with twelve points instead of a possible. 707 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:49,640 Speaker 1: That's frustrating, you know, it's frustrating me. It is through 708 00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:52,839 Speaker 1: three quarters. You had every opportunity to capitalize and stay 709 00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,560 Speaker 1: in this game with all the adversity that happened, and 710 00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:57,560 Speaker 1: you didn't catch. You were in the game in the 711 00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:01,480 Speaker 1: fourth quarter, fourth quarter. I mean that's the frustrating part. Again, 712 00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:05,000 Speaker 1: that's the word that that's been the biggest part of 713 00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:10,640 Speaker 1: the frustration is that that's what makes it frustrating. They 714 00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:14,000 Speaker 1: were in the game. There were opportunities are three games, 715 00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:17,560 Speaker 1: but winnup more games. They were there and you know, 716 00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:20,799 Speaker 1: don't forget you would come out of the New England game. 717 00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:24,360 Speaker 1: They played their butts off, nose to nose for three quarters. 718 00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:29,800 Speaker 1: They were there. So yeah, frustration in Big Blue Nation 719 00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:35,040 Speaker 1: is definitely the operative word. Let's uh head out to Vancouver, cannaticant, 720 00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:39,439 Speaker 1: check in Canada and check in with Sean. Hello, Sean, Hey, guys, 721 00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:43,279 Speaker 1: how you doing good? What's up Sean? Not too much? Hey, 722 00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:44,600 Speaker 1: I just like to say, I don't know what all 723 00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:47,360 Speaker 1: the big deal is? You know, was that was that 724 00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:51,040 Speaker 1: a pun? Sewan? What the big deal is? The best 725 00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:54,800 Speaker 1: thing that's happening is happening. We're playing, not that with Dallas. 726 00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:58,440 Speaker 1: Everyone hates Dallas. With Dallas to the very end the 727 00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:01,160 Speaker 1: fourth quarter, we lost. You know, we're gonna get draft picks, 728 00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:03,239 Speaker 1: so we're gonna have a good team next year the 729 00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:04,960 Speaker 1: year after this is the best thing is going to 730 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,440 Speaker 1: happen for the long term of the of the Giants. 731 00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:10,399 Speaker 1: I believe myself coming out here and going eight eight 732 00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:14,560 Speaker 1: really helping us to fourteen. What's gonna help us long term? Well, 733 00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:19,759 Speaker 1: I don't think that was the game plan. Sean had 734 00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:24,920 Speaker 1: the game plan come over win let Sean, let me 735 00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:26,520 Speaker 1: ask you a question. Let me ask you a question. 736 00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:29,440 Speaker 1: Since we got a calling from Vancouver, Who's winning the 737 00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:32,520 Speaker 1: Great Cup this year? Oh? I don't know. I watched 738 00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:36,800 Speaker 1: the NFL, I watched the Giants watch the Okay, alright, 739 00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:40,080 Speaker 1: I'm a giant from I just like said, I wish 740 00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,880 Speaker 1: i'd winked up to buy the Cowboys on the Friday, 741 00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:46,839 Speaker 1: hould him on Saturday, party on Sunday, and go back 742 00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:49,560 Speaker 1: to work on Monday. Just hot enough money, dude, I 743 00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:52,520 Speaker 1: can't found the Cowboys Elliott. Sir, what did you see 744 00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:57,560 Speaker 1: that interview with Elliott? Yeah? What? Well you very much guys, 745 00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:01,520 Speaker 1: Thank you Sean, Thank you Sean. Uh yeah, I will 746 00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:04,000 Speaker 1: tell you that thanks for the call, Sean. But I 747 00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:10,200 Speaker 1: will tell you m chills easiest said than done. But 748 00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:15,400 Speaker 1: you know what that that those but that's also going 749 00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:17,120 Speaker 1: to be a mark that comes back and bite you 750 00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:21,120 Speaker 1: on a key stair because that won't be forgotten. Absolutely, 751 00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:24,440 Speaker 1: not know whether it's next year or whatever, it won't 752 00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:27,359 Speaker 1: be forgotten. And I'm sure that's one that's embedded into 753 00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:30,000 Speaker 1: your memory for sure. Coach Garrett said, Oh, we don't 754 00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:34,680 Speaker 1: need this, you know, it just not necessary, you know, 755 00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:39,879 Speaker 1: But I will say this about one Ezekiel Elliott. There's 756 00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:43,279 Speaker 1: a phenomenal football player. You know. There's an expression in 757 00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:48,120 Speaker 1: uh boxing that trainers. I know, my good friend Teddy 758 00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:50,719 Speaker 1: Atlas will tell you all the time, when you hit, 759 00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:56,320 Speaker 1: you gotta hit with bad intentions. And Ezekiel Elliott runs 760 00:41:56,600 --> 00:42:00,920 Speaker 1: with bad intense contact. Man, oh man, oh man. I mean, 761 00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:03,600 Speaker 1: you can hate his guts, but let me tell you 762 00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:07,719 Speaker 1: he runs with bad intentions. When I say bad intentions 763 00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,239 Speaker 1: like come and get it, let's go and see. That's 764 00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:12,520 Speaker 1: the point that I always talk to people about and 765 00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:14,400 Speaker 1: when they always ask, well, what is it about an 766 00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:17,279 Speaker 1: offensive lineman that just wants to run the football? Is 767 00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:20,879 Speaker 1: it just easier than pass protection? No, think about being 768 00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:23,439 Speaker 1: in a boxing match. What do you always say, killed 769 00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:26,719 Speaker 1: the body, the head will follow. That's offensive line of 770 00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:30,640 Speaker 1: defensive line play. That's the mentality because if you can 771 00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,600 Speaker 1: wear and beat them down with the body shots the 772 00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:37,560 Speaker 1: first quarter, the second quarter, into the third quarter, now 773 00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:39,319 Speaker 1: all of a sudden those runs for two and three 774 00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:41,840 Speaker 1: are popping for seven, eight, nine. Now, all of a sudden, 775 00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:44,000 Speaker 1: they don't have as much luster on their pass rush 776 00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:46,960 Speaker 1: as they did before. You start imposing your will on 777 00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:50,680 Speaker 1: a defense. It pays dividends in the third and fourth quarter, 778 00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:53,279 Speaker 1: and you see it. And that's where the physicality of 779 00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:57,239 Speaker 1: an offensive line running the football is imperative because it 780 00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:59,960 Speaker 1: allows you to dictate the tempo of a football game 781 00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:02,239 Speaker 1: and allows you to take it to them instead of 782 00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:05,200 Speaker 1: sitting back and kicking back all the time. Well in 783 00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:07,279 Speaker 1: line with that, David, and I'm not just talking about 784 00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:11,279 Speaker 1: the Giants here or coach Sherman or say I'm talking 785 00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:13,759 Speaker 1: about in football in general. We've heard this several times 786 00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,600 Speaker 1: where you've heard people say, well, why the hell did 787 00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,160 Speaker 1: they stick? You know, you know the running game wasn't working. 788 00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:20,960 Speaker 1: You know, why don't they just let's say it's the 789 00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:23,840 Speaker 1: first quarter, why don't they just let's go to the 790 00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:26,680 Speaker 1: passing game and this and that? And because I'm asking, 791 00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:30,439 Speaker 1: because you've become one dimensional then and part of those 792 00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:33,640 Speaker 1: like as you say, the two and three's becomes five 793 00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:36,080 Speaker 1: and six and seven, So you just gotta stick with 794 00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:39,319 Speaker 1: it and wear them down. All you know, defensive ends, 795 00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:41,960 Speaker 1: all they want to do is pass rush. They don't 796 00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:44,440 Speaker 1: want to hold up against the run for four quarters. 797 00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:47,040 Speaker 1: They want to get after the quarterback, get a sack, 798 00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:49,880 Speaker 1: because that's how they're gonna make money. You know that 799 00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:52,200 Speaker 1: a hold up defensive end isn't getting money because he 800 00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:54,600 Speaker 1: stout up against the run. It's because he puts up 801 00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:57,840 Speaker 1: numbers in the sack distribution. So when you're allowed to 802 00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,840 Speaker 1: go out there and beat up on these guys, it 803 00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:03,879 Speaker 1: doesn't allow them to have that same speed, the same 804 00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:06,960 Speaker 1: get off and thought process it has when you're one dimensional. 805 00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:10,680 Speaker 1: Two zero, one nine four or five one three is 806 00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:13,400 Speaker 1: the number of Russelsburg with with you here along with 807 00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:16,799 Speaker 1: Big David Deal and the lovely Nicole Barrows. Big Blue 808 00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:19,440 Speaker 1: Kickoff Live brought to you by, as always, Corpse Light. 809 00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:21,880 Speaker 1: If you wish to entity to win the ultimate v 810 00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:25,279 Speaker 1: I P Game Day experienced courtesy of course Light, well, 811 00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:27,600 Speaker 1: then text v I P the Nino four six four 812 00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:30,960 Speaker 1: four more details. Let's get up to Maine now and 813 00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:35,000 Speaker 1: check in with Jason. Hello Jason, Hey guys, how are 814 00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:37,839 Speaker 1: you doing today? How are you doing well? I don't 815 00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:39,919 Speaker 1: know if I also hard that I did the last game, 816 00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:43,800 Speaker 1: but a really poor pass in her parents plays I 817 00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:46,719 Speaker 1: think of that game. But uh, I just had a 818 00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:49,440 Speaker 1: question for David. David, you played under quite a few 819 00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:54,600 Speaker 1: years under Kevin Gilbride, right, Um, I just I've watched 820 00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:59,319 Speaker 1: the Giants probably since um the late eighties, and uh, 821 00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:01,960 Speaker 1: I think be offense I ever saw from from you 822 00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:04,920 Speaker 1: guys was the years that Kevin Gilbride was there. So 823 00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:07,839 Speaker 1: I'm just I'm wondering because I'm a little frustrated over 824 00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:09,879 Speaker 1: this offense the West Coast. I don't I'm not really 825 00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:11,960 Speaker 1: a fan of the West Coast offense, but what was 826 00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:14,600 Speaker 1: the major difference between the offense that you guys ran 827 00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:17,160 Speaker 1: in the offense that these guys are running now, well, 828 00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:20,960 Speaker 1: I think number one, you know a lot less max protection, 829 00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:24,280 Speaker 1: shotgun stuff because you know, number one, you're not running 830 00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:28,680 Speaker 1: zone read read options with Eli Manning. Number two, you 831 00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:32,600 Speaker 1: know that you're putting a precedent on running power football tosses, 832 00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:36,839 Speaker 1: sweeps edged the defense, pulling guards, pulling tackles, making sure 833 00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:39,320 Speaker 1: that you're diverse in your running game so that you 834 00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:41,840 Speaker 1: don't become one dimensional, and the new state of the chains. 835 00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:44,640 Speaker 1: And then number three, the biggest thing that you have 836 00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:48,480 Speaker 1: to do when you're a functional offense, make sure you 837 00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:52,480 Speaker 1: convert on third downs, capitalize on your red zone opportunities, 838 00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:55,400 Speaker 1: limit the amount of takeaways that you give. And we 839 00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:57,560 Speaker 1: I continue to say this. We used to always say 840 00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:00,640 Speaker 1: as a football team, no more than three to one, 841 00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:03,319 Speaker 1: no more than three penalties by the O, two by 842 00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:07,640 Speaker 1: the defense, won by special teams. Discipline wins football games. 843 00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:10,680 Speaker 1: And when you're a disciplined offense that can stay on 844 00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:13,279 Speaker 1: track and ahead of the numbers, that's what allows you 845 00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:16,400 Speaker 1: to thrives. But everything for us went off of a 846 00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:18,799 Speaker 1: running the football. If we didn't have a running game, 847 00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:21,839 Speaker 1: it was difficult for us to win football games when 848 00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:25,640 Speaker 1: we had a running game. Eli Manning was surgical in 849 00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:29,839 Speaker 1: the playoffs impaction game. Right, yeah, okay, My last question 850 00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:32,680 Speaker 1: is just, um, I just noticed we seem to struggle 851 00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:34,120 Speaker 1: a lot in the two minute offense. We seem to 852 00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:36,440 Speaker 1: throw a lot of five yard passes not getting it 853 00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:38,560 Speaker 1: out of bounce. Is that because they're afraid of the 854 00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:43,200 Speaker 1: pass protection or why exactly are they not at least 855 00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:45,360 Speaker 1: trying to throw it deep when and when they're in 856 00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:50,480 Speaker 1: the two minute offense? And I'll take it off. Stay on, no, no, 857 00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:54,440 Speaker 1: stay on a second, because well, it's kind of ironic 858 00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:59,120 Speaker 1: that you're bringing this up. Yesterday I was getting into 859 00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:03,520 Speaker 1: no yesterday, I was getting into a debate because the 860 00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:09,880 Speaker 1: argument was why the hell um was he allowing it? Was? 861 00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:12,600 Speaker 1: Was the coach Herman allowing Daniel Jones to throw the 862 00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:15,200 Speaker 1: ball with forty eight seconds? Well, and to me, my 863 00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:18,040 Speaker 1: attitude was, they got the ball back with forty eight 864 00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:20,799 Speaker 1: seconds left and three what I think was forty eight 865 00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:25,200 Speaker 1: seconds left and three timeouts. I'm sure PAULI Dotts was 866 00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:26,719 Speaker 1: sitting next to me. He said, Okay, let's see what 867 00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:30,719 Speaker 1: he can do. Unfortunately got intercepted. You know, but it's 868 00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:33,879 Speaker 1: not like not trying to throw a pass. I guess 869 00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:36,240 Speaker 1: it also depends who and what is in the lineup, 870 00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:42,239 Speaker 1: And unfortunately it's part of the discussion lately is who's healthy. Okay, yeah, No, 871 00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:44,120 Speaker 1: it was more like at the end of the games, 872 00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:46,399 Speaker 1: when we're down like a couple of scores and we've 873 00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:49,080 Speaker 1: got to score quickly, it seems like we don't make 874 00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:51,360 Speaker 1: many deep, you know, deep throw attempts. And I just 875 00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:53,839 Speaker 1: didn't know if maybe that was just because the past 876 00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:57,400 Speaker 1: protection is not there. That was I mean, Dave, if 877 00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:01,120 Speaker 1: if you're down a couple of scores, I mean you 878 00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:06,520 Speaker 1: whistling Dixie anyway? Yeah, yeah, all right, Okay, well thanks guys, 879 00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:09,080 Speaker 1: have a good day. Thanks to Jason. Thank you Jason. 880 00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:15,000 Speaker 1: Well as uh, listen, Dave, it's clear frustration has set in. 881 00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:17,560 Speaker 1: And you know, we've heard that that word a lot. 882 00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:21,560 Speaker 1: Five game losing streaks will do that to you. It's tough. 883 00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:23,680 Speaker 1: But the only thing that you can do is come 884 00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:26,040 Speaker 1: out of this thing fighting. That's the that's the thing 885 00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:29,359 Speaker 1: that everybody's looking for. Nobody wanted to be sitting here 886 00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:31,960 Speaker 1: at two and seven. But what do you do from 887 00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:34,800 Speaker 1: this point moving forward? What type of product are you 888 00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:37,440 Speaker 1: going to put on the field that even if you lose, 889 00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:42,120 Speaker 1: that it's something to be proud of. I sensed after 890 00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:46,040 Speaker 1: I sensed after this game. Uh, and I was in 891 00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:51,359 Speaker 1: the locker room after the game. I sensed after this game, Uh, 892 00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:58,960 Speaker 1: the players were angry and frustrated, angry that we let 893 00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:02,319 Speaker 1: it happen again. That that was kind of I'll say 894 00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:05,399 Speaker 1: the theme. And what wasn't pointing fingers. There was none 895 00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:10,480 Speaker 1: of that. And anybody says that is spreading bull You know, 896 00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:15,759 Speaker 1: everybody's frustrated. And you know somebody that you know, they 897 00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:21,160 Speaker 1: were talking I was reading today. Uh, that's fuming over 898 00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:25,640 Speaker 1: rookie mistakes. That's what everybody's p o. Everybody's got their 899 00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:29,600 Speaker 1: fingerprint on it. Every everybody is you know. I mean 900 00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:33,160 Speaker 1: I was standing around after the game when when Golden 901 00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:38,359 Speaker 1: Table was being interviewed. Everybody was frustrated. We all gotta 902 00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:42,160 Speaker 1: play better. We can't make knuckle head mistakes. And when 903 00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:45,560 Speaker 1: you have a rookie quarterback, it's up to everybody else 904 00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:51,320 Speaker 1: to elevate their game to help the rookie quarterback. Yeah. Again, 905 00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:53,960 Speaker 1: easier said than done, but yeah, you're a hun person, 906 00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:56,920 Speaker 1: right Like when somebody goes down, it's you have a 907 00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:59,719 Speaker 1: backup running back that comes in. It's up to you 908 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:04,080 Speaker 1: as an offensive line to give him opportunities to be successful. 909 00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:09,400 Speaker 1: You know, you know, it was everybody had dandelions and 910 00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:14,040 Speaker 1: daffodils dancing in their heads. When when Daniel Jones came 911 00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:16,839 Speaker 1: in and they won the first two games with Daniel Jones, 912 00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:20,400 Speaker 1: then it was like whoa, you know, here we go 913 00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:23,799 Speaker 1: planing up against good defense, you know, and now now 914 00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:27,080 Speaker 1: it's like everybody, are we jumping ship again? You know, 915 00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:29,480 Speaker 1: it was the same thing when Daniel Jones they were 916 00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:31,960 Speaker 1: back on the ship last week with the four touchdowns 917 00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:38,239 Speaker 1: that it was the same, the same exact thing. When 918 00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:42,640 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones was drafted, we heard the uproar. It was 919 00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:45,279 Speaker 1: the end of the world. How could they draft this guy? 920 00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:48,960 Speaker 1: Blah blah blah, Dwayne Haskins, how could they draft him? No, 921 00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:53,720 Speaker 1: sooner did they get to training camp, the narrative completely switched. 922 00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:57,440 Speaker 1: And why isn't he playing? We're waiting for the new 923 00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:00,360 Speaker 1: guy starting to start right now. We kept seeing that 924 00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:04,320 Speaker 1: right away right away and now already, uh, the rookie 925 00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:08,040 Speaker 1: mistakes and he's making too. What did you think I'm 926 00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:10,000 Speaker 1: not saying to the fat but what did you think 927 00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:15,200 Speaker 1: was gonna happen with this rookie quarterback? Especially, he wasn't 928 00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:19,360 Speaker 1: being put into a situation where this was your offensive 929 00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:24,040 Speaker 1: line and you know, you know, healthy stable of wide receiver. Yeah, 930 00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:29,600 Speaker 1: it just wasn't that situation. He wasn't being placed into. Okay, 931 00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:32,759 Speaker 1: here's a rookie coming in with a bunch of a big, 932 00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:36,880 Speaker 1: veteran laden squad. That was not the case. No, so 933 00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:38,480 Speaker 1: you knew that there was gonna be a learning curve. 934 00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:41,960 Speaker 1: You never accept the fumbles, you never accept the turnovers. 935 00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:46,920 Speaker 1: But what you do is understand that every one of 936 00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:51,439 Speaker 1: these situations, every one of these reps, every prosperity play, 937 00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:55,640 Speaker 1: every adverse play, they all help you moving forward as 938 00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:59,160 Speaker 1: a quarterback, not only with the memory and the mental 939 00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:02,279 Speaker 1: part of it, but the physicality of it. I told 940 00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:05,840 Speaker 1: you this last week after my first year in the NFL, 941 00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:09,759 Speaker 1: which was like a whirlwind of everything taken place, it 942 00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:12,359 Speaker 1: was so much easier to be comfortable in your second year. 943 00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:16,000 Speaker 1: The year it was so much easier. Your comfortability in 944 00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:19,480 Speaker 1: the offense, your comfortability of the scheduling, how the grind 945 00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:22,480 Speaker 1: of the season goes, considering the plaque. You're you're playing 946 00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:26,440 Speaker 1: more football than you've ever played in your life. It's 947 00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:29,040 Speaker 1: interesting that you said that about the second year because 948 00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:32,640 Speaker 1: I just prior to coming in here today, I was doing, 949 00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:35,120 Speaker 1: you know, my play a profile interview that we do 950 00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:38,400 Speaker 1: for a pregame show on Fox five, and who was 951 00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:41,640 Speaker 1: my guy today? It was dex to Lawrence. And my 952 00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:48,560 Speaker 1: question to Dexter Lawrence is nine games in what, uh, well, 953 00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:52,280 Speaker 1: what's been the biggest difference in your NFL career moving 954 00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:54,440 Speaker 1: from the college game to the program. What do you 955 00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:57,160 Speaker 1: think has been the biggest difference? And what he said 956 00:52:57,200 --> 00:52:59,960 Speaker 1: to me, Listen, he's a big man, He's a monster, 957 00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:03,800 Speaker 1: and it comes from a big time program. Okay, he 958 00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:07,160 Speaker 1: won forty one games in college and laws three Clemson. 959 00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:10,040 Speaker 1: We're talking about big major program, major program, and he 960 00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:12,600 Speaker 1: left as a national champion. So I asked him, you know, how, 961 00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:17,360 Speaker 1: how if the losing um how he deals with But 962 00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:20,600 Speaker 1: he said, the biggest difference from the college the pros 963 00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:25,719 Speaker 1: was the intelligence of them. Absolutely, That's I mean, that's 964 00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:28,840 Speaker 1: everything in college. Let's say that they ran a blitz. 965 00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:32,680 Speaker 1: You know, you may be a split second late, but 966 00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:34,600 Speaker 1: the fact that you're a better athlete than the other 967 00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:36,560 Speaker 1: side of the ball. You can make up for it 968 00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:42,000 Speaker 1: the pros. You're split second late on the blitz, the timing, 969 00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:46,720 Speaker 1: the precision, the professionalism of it. You're yelling lookout, Eli, 970 00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:50,440 Speaker 1: because that's the difference. Everybody is so much better, so 971 00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:53,840 Speaker 1: much quicker, And that's where the game in the NFL 972 00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:57,200 Speaker 1: you have to have the physical ability. But the best 973 00:53:57,280 --> 00:53:59,960 Speaker 1: players have it in between the years. They know prepper 974 00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:02,840 Speaker 1: race and they can identify things early. They have that 975 00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:06,400 Speaker 1: pre snap recognition that gives them a beat on what 976 00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:09,640 Speaker 1: to do before it even happens. Yeah, I really thought 977 00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:13,080 Speaker 1: when he told me he said, and he said right away, oh, 978 00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:15,600 Speaker 1: you know the intelligence because you're looking at a guy, 979 00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:19,080 Speaker 1: you know, six five three pounds whatever he is, and 980 00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:21,680 Speaker 1: he's an athlete. I mean, this ain't a fat guy. 981 00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:26,680 Speaker 1: He this is a physical specimen. You know, he's not 982 00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:29,120 Speaker 1: worried about who's coming at him. You know, he's a 983 00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:31,359 Speaker 1: big man. But the first thing he said was, wasn't 984 00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:36,000 Speaker 1: the guy's physicality or his speed, which everybody says, you're there. 985 00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:38,759 Speaker 1: The game is much faster in the NFL. But he 986 00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:41,960 Speaker 1: was talking about the intelligence of all the players. Yeah, 987 00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:45,080 Speaker 1: I mean football is a game that it is about 988 00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:50,000 Speaker 1: immediate action, it's about precision. The minute that you have 989 00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:54,360 Speaker 1: that split second hesitation because you're thinking and you're not reacting, 990 00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:56,759 Speaker 1: it's over for you. It's over. And that's why I 991 00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:58,719 Speaker 1: was talking about in the run game, if you can 992 00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:01,200 Speaker 1: get deception, if you can fake jet sweeps, if you 993 00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:04,520 Speaker 1: can motion things and make them all look the same. 994 00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:08,920 Speaker 1: Defensive line and linebackers are like this, looking across to 995 00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:10,880 Speaker 1: try to figure out where to go. Now, all of 996 00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:12,680 Speaker 1: a sudden, you get a linebacker who has that split 997 00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:15,360 Speaker 1: second stop and he's looking. You get a guard to 998 00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:19,000 Speaker 1: the second level, You beat him to the spot. Let 999 00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:21,840 Speaker 1: me ask you this before you get going. Uh, just 1000 00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:24,640 Speaker 1: to have a couple of minutes left, David. You know, 1001 00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:28,920 Speaker 1: I've gotta guess I'm kind of like contradicting myself because 1002 00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:33,040 Speaker 1: one thing I love about uh, Daniel Jones. I mean 1003 00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:35,920 Speaker 1: his ability to run. He's quick and he just doesn't 1004 00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:38,960 Speaker 1: run stupid, but he just has the ability. No more blocking, Daniel, 1005 00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:41,560 Speaker 1: that's the one. No more block. No. But but you 1006 00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:44,600 Speaker 1: know we were talking about, for example, inside the red zone. 1007 00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:49,320 Speaker 1: I'm not saying, David, Daniel, go run, but you know, 1008 00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:53,080 Speaker 1: maybe more rollouts with him or what. But then the 1009 00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:55,040 Speaker 1: flip side of that is I also want to be 1010 00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:58,920 Speaker 1: concerned because he's taking a beating. Oh yeah, I understand that, 1011 00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:01,320 Speaker 1: you know I I say it all the time, like 1012 00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:04,040 Speaker 1: the old time X Watch takes a licking, but keeps on. 1013 00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:08,759 Speaker 1: He's been getting clunked and he gets up and right 1014 00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:11,160 Speaker 1: away let's get back into the battle. But that's the 1015 00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:14,000 Speaker 1: whole point of why he's here and he's running this 1016 00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:18,680 Speaker 1: offense is because of his athleticism and his ability. That's 1017 00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:21,680 Speaker 1: the scheme is to change the launch point, put him 1018 00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:24,680 Speaker 1: on the run, run bootlegs and nakeds, make sure that 1019 00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:27,439 Speaker 1: you put him in a position to succeed, and once 1020 00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:30,759 Speaker 1: again to where he's reacting and not overthinking things. A 1021 00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:32,480 Speaker 1: lot of times, when you're on the run and you're 1022 00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:35,120 Speaker 1: running bootlegs and nakeds, it's so much easier for you 1023 00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:36,880 Speaker 1: to make a decision than when you're sitting back in 1024 00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:40,480 Speaker 1: shotgun and you're scamming and you see bodies everywhere. When 1025 00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:42,960 Speaker 1: you run bootlegs and nakeds, you're taking away half of 1026 00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:45,239 Speaker 1: the field, which gives you a better chance to go 1027 00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:48,120 Speaker 1: through your progressions. Wanted to either run it or throw 1028 00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:51,439 Speaker 1: it away. Yeah, you know, and again people it's tough. 1029 00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:54,920 Speaker 1: People were asking also, you know, coach chairman today about 1030 00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:58,520 Speaker 1: the fumbling, and that's something that you work on. Of course, 1031 00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:01,680 Speaker 1: I don't think it's gonna be I just was gonna say, 1032 00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:04,480 Speaker 1: Jacky Barber, who I played with from my first year, 1033 00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:07,840 Speaker 1: who was fumbling a lot to the time that he retired, 1034 00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:11,000 Speaker 1: was a completely different player because they made him focus 1035 00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:13,879 Speaker 1: on it high and tight, pinpoint that stuff. They're doing 1036 00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:16,320 Speaker 1: the same thing now with Daniel Jones now when he's 1037 00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:19,680 Speaker 1: dropping back in individual periods, they're forcing to hold two 1038 00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:22,400 Speaker 1: hands on the ball. They're using pads and stuff to 1039 00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:25,040 Speaker 1: hit away at it like he's getting contact or action 1040 00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:27,440 Speaker 1: coming to him, to force him to focus on that. 1041 00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:29,200 Speaker 1: The one that he had he was trying to put 1042 00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:31,880 Speaker 1: away and it just popped out. But at least he's 1043 00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:35,240 Speaker 1: consciously understanding that he has to control and take care 1044 00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:38,520 Speaker 1: of it. Alright, Well, look that's a quick hour us. 1045 00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:43,040 Speaker 1: It was an hour of a lot of frustrations. Let's 1046 00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:47,600 Speaker 1: let's let's hope. Let's let's hope the frustration is washed away. 1047 00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:52,760 Speaker 1: Sunday tomorrow, Thursday tomorrow. Say let's get rid of it. 1048 00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:56,440 Speaker 1: And get ready for a good game against your I 1049 00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:59,760 Speaker 1: would say crossed own rivals, but your stadium rivals, the 1050 00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:02,200 Speaker 1: New York Jets. But anyway, that is a wrap here. 1051 00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:05,800 Speaker 1: Our thanks to the lovely Nicole Barrows taking care of 1052 00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:08,680 Speaker 1: the controls, my big man, my good friend David Deal, 1053 00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:12,840 Speaker 1: and uh I'm Ron Salisburg. And certainly big thanks to 1054 00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:14,959 Speaker 1: you people, because I always say it. Without you people, 1055 00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:17,680 Speaker 1: we'd have nobody here to be talking to. So until 1056 00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:22,000 Speaker 1: next time, bye bye, so long, and farewell. Yeah,