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Speaker 2: They renamed the stadium the naming rights deal Huntington Bank
Speaker 2: field Field.
Speaker 5: Okay, I said stadium, it's field.
Speaker 4: So there you go.
Speaker 2: That's the news from Cleveland. And by the way, as
Speaker 2: I am, I try to do and it's game week
Speaker 2: is I try to go behind enemy lines and listen
Speaker 2: to enemy radio stations, and I guess they're not very
Speaker 2: fired up about this game because this morning they're talking
Speaker 2: all Cleveland Guardians baseball, not Cleveland Brown's footballers. They had
Speaker 2: a big series, and they had a big series against
Speaker 2: Bobby Witt Junior and the Royals starting tonight. I guess.
Speaker 2: But I'm sitting here going, okay, give me some insight
Speaker 2: on the Cleveland Browns, and I got nothing but Cleveland
Speaker 2: Guardian talk coming in.
Speaker 5: Well, I got one for.
Speaker 4: You, all right.
Speaker 5: I looked at the Cleveland Playing Dealer.
Speaker 2: The newspaper still have a newspaper there.
Speaker 6: Yeah, not a lot of writing. It was a lot
Speaker 6: of podcast stuff. Yeah, you had to listen to. But
Speaker 6: they're starting less tackle or the one they were counting on,
Speaker 6: Jederick Wills.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 6: He had been on pup all training camp because he
Speaker 6: was recovering from last year's knee surgery. And he has
Speaker 6: yet to practice and they don't think he's going to
Speaker 6: be ready to go for at least the paper didn't
Speaker 6: think he'd be ready to go for Sunday's game. And
Speaker 6: the Browns are contemplating moving right tackle Conklin a veteran
Speaker 6: to left tackle, and he hasn't played there since his
Speaker 6: first two seasons in the league sixty seven total snaps.
Speaker 6: He's been a right tackle, but he too is returning
Speaker 6: from a knee injury, and they're worrying about what how
Speaker 6: are they gonna black Michael Parsons.
Speaker 2: And yeah, Conklin only played one game last year at
Speaker 2: right tackle for the Cleveland Browns. And so as much
Speaker 2: as we will talk this week about Tyler Geiton versus
Speaker 2: Miles Garrett right and clan, they're talking about what are
Speaker 2: they gonna do about Michael Parsons?
Speaker 5: And it just kind of dawned on Meson.
Speaker 6: Let me check on them to see because they've got
Speaker 6: to have some worries.
Speaker 5: No one starts the.
Speaker 6: Season perfectly, okay, Right, you always have something to worry about.
Speaker 6: I saw where the Chiefs are starting a rookie left tackle,
Speaker 6: Kingsley Suma Taya toyay.
Speaker 2: Go ahead, and I get it.
Speaker 5: That's that close enough. Yeah, yeah from b Yu.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and they're little concern that they got to start
Speaker 6: a rookie left tackle. And so it's around the league.
Speaker 6: Everybody's got a concern, right. Uh So, when you were
Speaker 6: talking about going behind enemy lines, and I saw that.
Speaker 6: And if it's not Conkling and they want to leave
Speaker 6: him on the right side, I'm sure you're all familiar
Speaker 6: with the work of James Hudson, the third because he
Speaker 6: would be the next alternative.
Speaker 4: Oh, yes, I'm we are aware of him.
Speaker 2: Yes, well, I have two grandsons named James and Hudson.
Speaker 7: So.
Speaker 5: I think i'll put them out there.
Speaker 4: There there go.
Speaker 2: And he, by the way, was a fourth round pick
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty one and started seven games last year
Speaker 2: with Conckland going down. So there's a little teas there
Speaker 2: on Cleveland on offense. Uh, you don't want to hear
Speaker 2: about the Cleveland defense though, yes, because this is he
Speaker 2: was the top defense in the cunt in the league
Speaker 2: last year. And they've returned basically everybody, and they've added
Speaker 2: a couple of pieces as well, and so and.
Speaker 4: It starts up front, right, Miles Garrett.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, they've got stars at three levels, and you'll
Speaker 2: love their secondary. They got a guy named Denzel Ward
Speaker 2: who was the fourth pick in the draft who's a
Speaker 2: three time Pro Bowler, and Martin Emerson, their other corner
Speaker 2: is a budding Pro Bowl type player and Grant Delpit
Speaker 2: and one Thornhill at safety. But the guy that I love,
Speaker 2: you know, Miles Garrett, is I meanvious, it's obvious. What
Speaker 2: he's a defensive Player of the Year in the league
Speaker 2: last year. But it's the joker at the second level,
Speaker 2: and that is Jeremiah Owusu Coromoa, who the Big Green
Speaker 2: Notebook loved him coming out a couple of years ago,
Speaker 2: and he made the Pro Bowl for the first time
Speaker 2: in his career last year. Number six. You got to
Speaker 2: watch number six and you got to You've got to
Speaker 2: be concerned where number six is because he had twenty
Speaker 2: tackles for loss last season. Wow. And he is bad
Speaker 2: is a lot.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: The thing about him, the thing about him coming out
Speaker 2: is he played at Notre Dame and he was a
Speaker 2: playmaker there too, but he was He's six y two
Speaker 2: or six one two and twenty pounds. He's kind of
Speaker 2: a tweener between a safety and a linebacker. But you
Speaker 2: could just see the instincts and uh. And now they
Speaker 2: have with Jim Schwartz there, they have figured out how
Speaker 2: to use him and he is basically playing linebacker and
Speaker 2: he's playing at a very high level. But he had
Speaker 2: his ability to blitz. So when you least expected his
Speaker 2: quickness to get to the backfield, is it just jumps
Speaker 2: off the screen at you.
Speaker 6: So he's kind of similar to I'm gonna forget the
Speaker 6: guy's name, the guy that played safety for the Steelers
Speaker 6: with all that.
Speaker 2: I remember, although he is a linebacker. J Okay is
Speaker 2: a linebacker, but he's got that he's.
Speaker 6: Only trying to that safety play with your hair on fire.
Speaker 6: I remember Bill Parcells says, well, the problem with that
Speaker 6: guy is he doesn't do what he's supposed to do.
Speaker 6: So how do you prepare for him? He's going to
Speaker 6: just do something different all the time because he's a
Speaker 6: football player. So well, you think they're worried that they
Speaker 6: got to face the number five offense from last year
Speaker 6: and the number three passing offense from last year, the
Speaker 6: top quarterback.
Speaker 3: They rather be. That's all I'm saying, I ain't afraid
Speaker 3: of you. If I'm the cowboy offense, That's what I'm thinking,
Speaker 3: I ain't afraid of you.
Speaker 4: Matter of fact, they need to be taking a.
Speaker 3: Look at our defense because their offense, from what I recall,
Speaker 3: they weren't really tearing up the league at all. You know,
Speaker 3: you've got problems at the quarterback position. Can you tell
Speaker 3: me what's going on with Deshaun Watson these days?
Speaker 4: Anybody?
Speaker 2: I don't know that they can tell you for sure
Speaker 2: what's going on Watson.
Speaker 6: They had the sixteenth ranked offense last year, nineteenth passing
Speaker 6: off That.
Speaker 3: Is impressive compared to what I saw, you know, in
Speaker 3: because you had to overcome.
Speaker 2: Because they used sixteen different quarterbacks.
Speaker 3: Point the fact that they were breaking that highly offensively,
Speaker 3: that says a lot about them. And they're you know,
Speaker 3: they're forty two because they decided to move on without him,
Speaker 3: and they did pretty well.
Speaker 2: I mean when Joe Flacco is sitting on his couch
Speaker 2: at Thanksgiving, uh, watching football.
Speaker 4: And comes out of an again not again, how we
Speaker 4: still doing? He had retired yet? No?
Speaker 2: No, he's now with Indianapolis. He got to deal with
Speaker 2: Indiapolis after letting them to the playoffs last year.
Speaker 4: He's a starter still, No, he's not.
Speaker 2: He's a backup in Indianapolis. Anthony Richardson's the starter. But uh,
Speaker 2: they got Jamis Winston as they're back up now at Cleveland.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that's good for us, like that.
Speaker 2: I like that, But watching me just six starts last year,
Speaker 2: and that's you know, that's been a problem for him
Speaker 2: getting on the field outside of his other problems off
Speaker 2: the field, which got him to Cleveland in the first place,
Speaker 2: with a highly lucrative contract guaranteed two hundred and thirty
Speaker 2: million dollars. And so it'll be interesting to see what
Speaker 2: the what kind of threat they pose offensively. They led
Speaker 2: the league in giveaways last year. They were thirty second
Speaker 2: in the league in turnovers. They coughed it up fourteen
Speaker 2: times on fumbles and twenty three interceptions last year for
Speaker 2: a total of thirty seven turnovers last year.
Speaker 3: And once again, the defense had to come to the
Speaker 3: rescue now many times.
Speaker 2: And the defense though, gave up only two hundred and
Speaker 2: seventy yards a game, which was the fewests that an
Speaker 2: NFL team has given up in nine years is going
Speaker 2: back to twenty fourteen Seahawks, and it was Jim Schwartz
Speaker 2: his first year as a defensive coordinator there. And we've
Speaker 2: seen him defenses before other places, namely Philadelphia pretty recently,
Speaker 2: and they won a Super Bowl with him as the
Speaker 2: DC there.
Speaker 6: So if you look at it other than the cow Boys,
Speaker 6: well not other than the Cowboys having to start two
Speaker 6: rookies on the offensive line. It's kind of basically the
Speaker 6: same offense, right, It's not like Tony Pollard lit up
Speaker 6: the league last year running the ball and the Cowboys
Speaker 6: did score a lot of points, and they do. They
Speaker 6: might have a better receiving corps together than they had
Speaker 6: last year. To them, well, I mean, I think Brandon
Speaker 6: Cooks having been in the offense for an entire year,
Speaker 6: and the connection they had consistently in training camp. And
Speaker 6: I'm not just talking about training camp practice. I'm talking
Speaker 6: about the rams scrimmages.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 5: He took Ceedee Lambs.
Speaker 6: Spot in those places, in those practices as the number
Speaker 6: one receiver and they were cooking, by the way, no
Speaker 6: pun intended. And I think Jalen Tolbert has taken another step,
Speaker 6: so we'll see what he's about.
Speaker 3: That's probably what you're talking. That's the difference, right, You're
Speaker 3: saying that he's the difference maker. And because those two
Speaker 3: guys se d and of course Brandon, they by the
Speaker 3: end of the right, because they did so well last year.
Speaker 2: It's like people out there doing their fantasy football drafts
Speaker 2: right now, and I know how much Mickey loves fantasy football.
Speaker 2: But okay, CD is like one of the top players
Speaker 2: picked of course. Okay, and then you got Brandon Cooks,
Speaker 2: who's way down the list. Okay, And you don't see
Speaker 2: any mention of Jalen Tolbert anywhere and so, but so
Speaker 2: from a national perspective or even just beyond people that
Speaker 2: have seen training camp and seen Jalen Tolbert out there,
Speaker 2: he's not on anybody's radar right now. And so twenty
Speaker 2: two catches last year, third year in the league and
Speaker 2: hadn't done much at all, and they're Cowboys are asking
Speaker 2: him to step up as their three number three wide
Speaker 2: receiver and then toys Michael Gallop before right and then.
Speaker 4: And that is going to be they see step up.
Speaker 4: It should be a step up.
Speaker 6: And then they seem really intent on getting the ball
Speaker 6: to Cavante Turpin as a receiver and putting him in
Speaker 6: the slot in different situations, handing him the ball, throwing
Speaker 6: him the ball down the field. I just think that
Speaker 6: presents the problems. And remember they also have a Pro
Speaker 6: Bowl tight end in Ferguson.
Speaker 3: That's the difference maker for me this year. They already
Speaker 3: know about our wide receivers. They already know about Cooks.
Speaker 3: You say Cooks might be a little further down. I
Speaker 3: always looked at Cooks as one of the top receivers
Speaker 3: in the league because of his diversity.
Speaker 4: He can go to any team and get a thousand
Speaker 4: yards and.
Speaker 2: He's basically done that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and so that's why I look at him as
Speaker 3: a little bit higher up in regards to his respectability.
Speaker 3: When you're talking about Tobe, that's the that's the X
Speaker 3: factor to me. But Ferguson is the man. He is
Speaker 3: no longer an X factor to me. He is a
Speaker 3: consistent player. Pobo and H just one of those guys
Speaker 3: that can not only catch, but he can also block.
Speaker 5: Right and better than his rookie year.
Speaker 6: And and I would imagine they will use a lot
Speaker 6: of two tight end formations. H Scoon Maker, I think
Speaker 6: is on his way. We got to see it yet
Speaker 6: in real games.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 6: But he's not a bad blocker either. And one of
Speaker 6: the reasons why they ended up keeping the rookie free
Speaker 6: agent Ren Ford. I got to get the name straight,
Speaker 6: not Ford, span right.
Speaker 5: Uh. He's a pretty good blocker himself.
Speaker 2: And and I.
Speaker 5: Finally kind of ran across him out of uniform. He's
Speaker 5: a big dude.
Speaker 6: I mean he's stout, so one of the next to
Speaker 6: you what are you saying, everybody.
Speaker 5: When he's next to everybody else.
Speaker 2: He is six six and a half two hundred and
Speaker 2: sixty pounds.
Speaker 6: That's a big dude, right, And uh, he's a pretty
Speaker 6: good blocker, and there's a reason why they kept him
Speaker 6: as the fourth tight end. So, uh, that tight end
Speaker 6: group adds to what this offense can do.
Speaker 2: And we were here after the cutdowns last last week,
Speaker 2: but that's one of the things that the tight end position.
Speaker 2: The Cowboys made the decision to trade Peyton Hendershot to
Speaker 2: Kansas City and keep these young tight ends behind Jake first.
Speaker 6: And one of the things that I found out about
Speaker 6: Hendershot he had lost a lot of weight for some reason,
Speaker 6: and he wasn't.
Speaker 5: Looking like a blocking tight end to help.
Speaker 2: So you can understand why Kansas City was interested in
Speaker 2: him as a receiving tight end.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they can get him downfield. By the way, they
Speaker 5: were no longer interested in Eric Scott.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he didn't last long there.
Speaker 6: He didn't last a week after they claimed him on
Speaker 6: waivers after the Cowboys let him go.
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what this is really going to be
Speaker 3: a really nice matchup. It is because you're talking about
Speaker 3: even though they've got a lot of giveaways offensively talking
Speaker 3: about the Cleveland Browns. You know you got Jerry Judy
Speaker 3: just got there and the tight end that I really
Speaker 3: like also just as much as I like I was
Speaker 3: as juco is that how you say his name? And
Speaker 3: Juko uh With and jojoku In Joeku and that guy
Speaker 3: I saw him a couple of years ago and you
Speaker 3: knew he was going to be a stud.
Speaker 4: So yeah, very impressive.
Speaker 3: We've got some good matchups digs and the guys versus
Speaker 3: their wide receivers a Marii Cooper, you know, a guy
Speaker 3: that I still miss to this day as much as
Speaker 3: I was missing Zeke Elliott un till he came back.
Speaker 4: So this is gonna be a good matchup for our secondary.
Speaker 6: And by the way, they're starting running backs out too, right,
Speaker 6: So who's the next guy up?
Speaker 2: Jerome Ford would be your starting running back. He started
Speaker 2: twelve games last year. Chubb of course, only played two
Speaker 2: games last year, and so Jerome Ford is the guy.
Speaker 2: They've also got Deontay Foreman on their roster as well
Speaker 2: as Pierre Strong, so.
Speaker 6: The running back rooms are about yeah, because everybody's worried
Speaker 6: about the cowboys running back room, and I'll be interested
Speaker 6: to see how they how they hand out the snaps
Speaker 6: at that position.
Speaker 5: Don't sell Zeke short. I'm just telling you.
Speaker 2: I'm just going back to Ohio.
Speaker 5: That's true.
Speaker 4: Yes, good, good one.
Speaker 5: So I think he's got something and not many picks.
Speaker 2: Early picked to click. I gets the number one rush defense,
Speaker 2: that's right, the history of.
Speaker 5: I might I might go defense.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll bet, I'll bet. But you know the thing about.
Speaker 3: Zeke, his his uh, his usefulness is the fact that
Speaker 3: he can get those tough one yard advance, you know, tough.
Speaker 2: Well, there's going to be a lot of those. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you see what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So that's my whole point. I don't mean on first
Speaker 4: and ten. I mean like thirty two. Okay, I'm not
Speaker 4: second and two.
Speaker 2: That's like that's the old you want to tell the.
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Speaker 5: I don't know if I can get it right.
Speaker 4: It's like Dadie.
Speaker 2: Done was about walk Garrison said, if it's third and two,
Speaker 2: he'll get you three. If it's third and ten, he'll
Speaker 2: get you three.
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Speaker 2: So that's September fourteenth. That's the day before the home
Speaker 2: opener against We talk a lot about the season opener,
Speaker 2: but the home opener is against the New Orleans Saints.
Speaker 2: All Right, back to back home games on Sunday September
Speaker 2: fifteenth and Sunday September twenty second. You got the Saints
Speaker 2: followed by the Ravens. So just looking at the first
Speaker 2: three games here on a Thursday, right, No, Thursday would
Speaker 2: be the next week.
Speaker 5: That's Jacks, I'm ahead of myself.
Speaker 2: Let's go look at the first three games, okay, okay,
Speaker 2: And you get the next two at home against New
Speaker 2: Orleans and Baltimore and this Cleveland game. How tough is
Speaker 2: that that start to the season. Pretty tough start, yeah,
Speaker 2: And how important is it to get off on the
Speaker 2: right foot in Cleveland?
Speaker 6: And you're thinking that because you've got so many young guys,
Speaker 6: you're depending on some of them playing their first NFL
Speaker 6: games or starting their first NFL games. This team can
Speaker 6: get better as you go along. You just don't want
Speaker 6: to bury yourself early in the season.
Speaker 4: That's good point.
Speaker 3: I don't look at this game as extremely important because
Speaker 3: it's such a long season. I don't want us jumping out,
Speaker 3: getting full of ourselves and then we.
Speaker 4: Started underestimating our opponent down the line.
Speaker 3: I want this team to have a sense of urgency
Speaker 3: every game. I don't care who they're playing, and I
Speaker 3: want them to be able to rise to the occasion
Speaker 3: such as a road game that you might need such
Speaker 3: as let's say you happen to drop one and you
Speaker 3: need another one on the road, and you go on
Speaker 3: the road and be the damn good team. This is
Speaker 3: the kind I want them to handle adversity as well
Speaker 3: as i've better than I've seen them handle it in
Speaker 3: the past.
Speaker 4: That's what I want from this team.
Speaker 2: Well, consider what the Cowboys now. Last year, we knew
Speaker 2: going in playing the giantsy opener that okay, this better
Speaker 2: be a win, right and it was, and it.
Speaker 4: Was a bull division game, Division and.
Speaker 2: But against the Giants team that was rebuilding, and you
Speaker 2: should win that game, right, Okay, Now, this is a
Speaker 2: toss up game going to Cleveland.
Speaker 4: It's a great matchup. It is a great matchup.
Speaker 2: But you look at the last prior to last year,
Speaker 2: you had back to back season openers against a very
Speaker 2: good Tampa Bay team and you lost both of those.
Speaker 2: But you came back and got on a roll in
Speaker 2: one of those years, even after losing your starting quarterback
Speaker 2: and your backup quarterback had to go four and one
Speaker 2: the next five games. And so yeah, it's.
Speaker 4: That's the kind of adversity on top. Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 2: And so now the problem is in this stretch would
Speaker 2: be if you did lose at Cleveland, it's that Baltimore
Speaker 2: game that's scary in week three, that would you'd be
Speaker 2: on the road perhaps to a one and two start
Speaker 2: to the season.
Speaker 4: And to me, that's okay. I mean to me, that's okay.
Speaker 4: You're gonna start off top and then let's see what
Speaker 4: kind of character we have.
Speaker 5: Still got fourteen games, the games to play.
Speaker 3: Let's just see how much how much trust we have
Speaker 3: in each other when we get down. And I know
Speaker 3: fans don't want to be tested that early in the season,
Speaker 3: but to me, that's the best time to be test
Speaker 3: is early in the season because you have a chance
Speaker 3: to make up for down the line.
Speaker 2: I look at it. If you're looking at the schedule,
Speaker 2: I look at the first five games and then the
Speaker 2: next five. The first five it's at Cleveland, New Orleans,
Speaker 2: Baltimore at the Giants on a Thursday night, and then
Speaker 2: you get a longer rest in between, then play at Pittsburgh. Okay,
Speaker 2: And I'm looking at you. Need you for sure need
Speaker 2: to go three and two. There and four and one
Speaker 2: would be ideal. Of course, Okay, five and oh's ideal,
Speaker 2: but four and one because the next five you got
Speaker 2: Detroit at San Francisco, at Atlanta, Philadelphia and Houston. That's
Speaker 2: a tough stretch there, those five games. So that's why
Speaker 2: I think it's imperative to get off to a strong
Speaker 2: start in September because what you're staring at that five
Speaker 2: game stretch, if all those teams are healthy, that's a
Speaker 2: very difficul stretches.
Speaker 5: What you get for winning the division well.
Speaker 3: And once again, to me, it's no panic because I'd
Speaker 3: like to see what the rest of the division is doing.
Speaker 3: I don't expect them to be as strong this season
Speaker 3: is last season. I could be wrong, but I don't
Speaker 3: expect the NFC East to be that strong this season,
Speaker 3: and I would I would hope that would have a
Speaker 3: chance to right our wrongs as the season goes on.
Speaker 2: All Right, what happened on Labor Day here?
Speaker 5: They practiced helmets.
Speaker 4: That's what you're supposed to do on Labor Day.
Speaker 5: You labored, right, Yeah, some of us, we always.
Speaker 6: Have some of us labored in there on Labor Day helmets.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 5: It was a pretty uh extensive practice.
Speaker 2: It was their first time back on back here since Thursday.
Speaker 2: Were they off Friday Saturdays.
Speaker 6: They were off Friday, Saturday Sunday, So they practiced Thursday
Speaker 6: out here. The two practices prior that were open to
Speaker 6: the public Tuesday Wednesday, wouldn't They were like glorified walkthroughs,
Speaker 6: although they put the helmets on and jerseys on the
Speaker 6: second day. But I thought the key thing watching that
Speaker 6: practice on Monday was that everybody was dressed and practicing.
Speaker 6: The guys that had been out with Nixon bruises and
Speaker 6: sore knees or whatever. Everybody was back in practice, including
Speaker 6: Brandon Cook's, John Stevens along with Demarvian Overshown. Damoon Clark
Speaker 6: was out there, Israel Mukuamu and juan Ye Thomas.
Speaker 5: So we knew going.
Speaker 6: In the two big injuries that they've got to cover,
Speaker 6: Sam Williams out knee surgery, Deron Bland out with foot surgery.
Speaker 6: But other than that, all the other guys that they
Speaker 6: were kind of trying to just get them into the
Speaker 6: first week of the season out practicing.
Speaker 5: So I thought that was important and anything. And uh,
Speaker 5: there was a number twenty one out there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, by the way Carson.
Speaker 5: Kayln, come, he didn't pick twenty four.
Speaker 3: He was thinking, well, I thought they were going to
Speaker 3: give give Zeke's number back.
Speaker 2: I wasn't sit wanted fifteen. He wanted Its interesting though,
Speaker 2: And I don't know if it's just that day at
Speaker 2: training camp or what, or if he's still on his
Speaker 2: wristbands he's got number twenty one. Yeah, you have to look,
Speaker 2: it's like underneath when it turning, we noticed he still
Speaker 2: had a twenty one wristbands on. But yeah, that's his
Speaker 2: college number. And so he wanted fifteen.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but yeah, so Kaylen Carson again, you know he's
Speaker 6: going to start and everybody's going, well, they're going to
Speaker 6: put Amar Cooper to his side.
Speaker 5: What if you don't play sides?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 3: Do we have cornerbacks that can do that well? Because
Speaker 3: it was always a big deal when it came to
Speaker 3: m Lineman.
Speaker 5: As much as I paid digs. He's better be able
Speaker 5: to do it right.
Speaker 4: He should be able to now.
Speaker 6: But again remember he hasn't He hasn't played in a
Speaker 6: game since September seventeenth. I think I wrote it down, Yeah,
Speaker 6: September seventeenth of last.
Speaker 4: Year, and that could be an issue.
Speaker 5: So that's a kind of an unknown also. Right.
Speaker 4: It was just the same thing with Michael Gallup.
Speaker 3: Right, how well do you come off of that injury
Speaker 3: in your first year? And I never really thought about
Speaker 3: it much. I was blessed enough not to get that injured.
Speaker 3: But I don't recall, as I look back on anyone
Speaker 3: having major problems coming back from that type of injury.
Speaker 3: I don't recall them having a ramp up year after that.
Speaker 3: I don't recall that, but they very well could have.
Speaker 3: This is a new thing for me, like with Michael Gallup,
Speaker 3: not coming off of that.
Speaker 6: Well, Tarren Steel will tell you the same thing. Okay,
Speaker 6: he feels so much better right now the second than
Speaker 6: he did all last year.
Speaker 2: Right. So part of it, I think is probably just
Speaker 2: a confidence thing.
Speaker 4: You're not sure you've gotta be. Yeah, yeah, you've got
Speaker 4: to be.
Speaker 2: You're always it's on your mind, and then once you
Speaker 2: get through a full year of it, then it's you're back.
Speaker 3: To These guys are so athletic sometimes they have to think,
Speaker 3: but do I want to try that move with this?
Speaker 4: You know, coming off of this injury.
Speaker 3: And I was blessed enough to I didn't have to
Speaker 3: get injured, So I didn't have to think like that,
Speaker 3: but I would imagine having to think like that is
Speaker 3: it can't blow with your confidence a little bit.
Speaker 6: I mean, after you have an ACL repair, Yeah, do
Speaker 6: you want to plant that foot boo?
Speaker 3: You know, do you want to do those those crazy moves?
Speaker 3: And Michael Gallup was doing before he got injured, right,
Speaker 3: Remember some of the more athletic moves that he was doing.
Speaker 4: You're like, man, I better not try that again.
Speaker 2: Well, then sometimes it gets publisher publicized that it was
Speaker 2: an a CL injury, but there was more to it
Speaker 2: than just a simple ACL. And even with an ACL,
Speaker 2: it's they're not all the same.
Speaker 6: Right, because you can also tear your MCL and you
Speaker 6: could have meniscus dances.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of stuff off in there. Yeah, there's
Speaker 3: a lot of stuff off there.
Speaker 6: Starting to sound like John Maddis, I've got a lot
Speaker 6: of stuff on that knee.
Speaker 2: So other number changes from the preseason, Ryan Flinoy's number
Speaker 2: eighty Brotheran Span forty, was wearing forty seven in the preseason.
Speaker 2: He's now number eighty nine, right, So when you see
Speaker 2: eighty nine running out there, that is that's.
Speaker 7: What it was.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the big six, six and a half two hundred
Speaker 2: and sixty pound college free agent from Minnesota.
Speaker 6: And no, no, he kept the same number. I was
Speaker 6: going to say, Nick vigil on the practice squad, veteran linebacker,
Speaker 6: because I was sitting there trying to figure out, you know,
Speaker 6: what positions they would have to elevate from the practice
Speaker 6: squad if you get two. And I wonder if they
Speaker 6: think about how much it costs them also who they elevate,
Speaker 6: because if you elevate a veteran, that weekly based salary is.
Speaker 5: Going to be more than a rookie free agent.
Speaker 2: Right, No, we don't, we don't. You don't want to.
Speaker 2: That's why we got the CD deal done.
Speaker 6: And that's why you got you got more money to
Speaker 6: play with. Yes, yes, all right, so we eliminate that.
Speaker 6: The hard part is going to be getting to forty six.
Speaker 2: Well, and you mentioned the linebacker. Okay, you got vigil
Speaker 2: on the practice squad, right, Okay, a veteran guy who
Speaker 2: would be a guy that you would want up.
Speaker 5: For a season opener too, Yeah, for.
Speaker 2: A season opener type. And with the injury situations that
Speaker 2: you have at linebacker coming out of the preseason, de
Speaker 2: Moone Clark was dealing with the bomber was over shown
Speaker 2: as well, back from a need. So, and then you
Speaker 2: got a rookie and lea foul.
Speaker 4: And the hip hoorn.
Speaker 6: No, Clark was no over overshown was coming back from
Speaker 6: a knee.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the two he had two problems there.
Speaker 6: Well, now he's recovering from the knee, but he had
Speaker 6: a hip pointer in a training camp.
Speaker 4: Man, be careful with that kid.
Speaker 3: So my thing is this, I'm looking at Miles Garrett
Speaker 3: fourteen sacks, So what's the difference between his fourteen sacks
Speaker 3: and Michael Parson's fourteenth.
Speaker 2: And the number one defense in the league. That's why
Speaker 2: because there were others. In fact, I think TJ. Watt
Speaker 2: had eighteen sacks last year. There were others with better
Speaker 2: numbers as far as their sack totals, and so fourth
Speaker 2: I had the same thought. Okay, so and Parsons had
Speaker 2: fourteen sacks. Okay, So what set Garrett apart to win
Speaker 2: the Defensive Player of the Year award last year? And
Speaker 2: I think it was a It was for the voters.
Speaker 2: It was as much a team award that the Cleveland
Speaker 2: defense was playing so well and he was the best
Speaker 2: player on their team.
Speaker 4: And he does more than sacks. He does more than sacks.
Speaker 3: He's one of the more heads up, play making defensive
Speaker 3: lineman I've seen in a long time.
Speaker 2: He had seventeen officially, as far as the NFL count goes,
Speaker 2: he had seventeen tackles for loss, thirty quarterback pressures, fourteen sacks,
Speaker 2: four force fumbles last year and played eight hundred and
Speaker 2: seventy two snaps. So he's on the field eighty percent
Speaker 2: of the time. And the other thing about I was
Speaker 2: just looking through this this morning. Their front four the
Speaker 2: sack totals across the board. Okay, he had fourteen. Zadarius
Speaker 2: Smith on the other side, who, by the way, as
Speaker 2: a three time pro bowler himself, who's now they'll turn
Speaker 2: thirty two this week. He had five and a half sacks.
Speaker 2: They had another defensive end with five sacks. Alex Wright,
Speaker 2: the Dalvin Tomlinson defensive tackle had three sacks.
Speaker 4: Did they leave the league in sacts?
Speaker 2: They set a club record. They had forty eight sacks,
Speaker 2: and they set a club record which I did not
Speaker 2: lead the league, I don't believe, but forty eight sacks
Speaker 2: is a lot. Obo Okoronco had four and a half
Speaker 2: sacks as well. I mean it was there's there. They've
Speaker 2: got a number. There's a half dozen defensive linemen who
Speaker 2: had around five sacks each.
Speaker 4: They're putting a lot of pressure down surrounding the quarterback.
Speaker 2: And that's not to mention. They signed Quentin Jefferson who
Speaker 2: had who is a defensive tackle. He goes six to
Speaker 2: four to ninety pounds and he had six sacks for
Speaker 2: the Jets last year. They added him to that list.
Speaker 3: And see that that should be the goal for the
Speaker 3: Cowboys defense is to not just save your offense, but
Speaker 3: just control the entire game from your side of the ball.
Speaker 3: I've said it before, Spags liked it so much. I
Speaker 3: keep bragging on it. But you can't depend you can't
Speaker 3: have your your defense depending on your offense.
Speaker 4: You just can't. You can't win a championship like that.
Speaker 4: You can't. We can't even win in the playoffs like that.
Speaker 3: So that needs to be a whole new approach that
Speaker 3: our defense needs to take this season. Control the game
Speaker 3: from your end of the field, from your side of
Speaker 3: the ball.
Speaker 2: Okay, Mickey is over here studying some stats and his
Speaker 2: notes and everything, just religiously, and I'm just.
Speaker 5: Wait, throw this.
Speaker 6: About to say they had forty nine sacks last year? Okay, okay,
Speaker 6: I think the Cowboys had for forty eight.
Speaker 2: I've missed by one.
Speaker 4: Forty eight.
Speaker 3: He did all of that, Studiu just ignore everything I
Speaker 3: was talking about, which was gold by the way it was,
Speaker 3: and he just yeah, he's over.
Speaker 2: He got how many? So let's get this right. Sure,
Speaker 2: did you find out if they led the league in sacks?
Speaker 5: They were?
Speaker 4: Oh? I looked.
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Speaker 5: Text from Savannah.
Speaker 2: How did how Grambling do this with you? Uh?
Speaker 4: Not too well? Okay. I played the University of louis Handa.
Speaker 2: Which is located in Lafayette. Used to be Louisiana Lafayette.
Speaker 4: Yeah it was.
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Speaker 2: may be coaching there again.
Speaker 4: Road that was. That was a tough road trip. It
Speaker 4: was a long drive to the mid to central louis.
Speaker 2: You go to bounce back this week three.
Speaker 4: We're back in our own element back this.
Speaker 2: Week Oh Tuskegee.
Speaker 4: That's right, sure, yes we should.
Speaker 5: We'd be back on board right now.
Speaker 4: And we lost. By the way, we lost forty to ten.
Speaker 6: Cleveland was sixth in total sacks and sixth in sacks.
Speaker 2: Per pass play till they were sixth.
Speaker 5: They were sixth, solid six.
Speaker 4: Who's number one?
Speaker 6: Baltimore had sixty and we get them in week three.
Speaker 6: Miami had fifty six and Kansas City hit fifty seven.
Speaker 2: Wow, all right. You know this time of the year,
Speaker 2: people give out their preseason predictions on who's going to
Speaker 2: win the awards, you know, Most Valuable Player, Defensive Player
Speaker 2: of the Year, the Rookie of the Year, all that stuff.
Speaker 2: I already have the ed Block Courage Award winner for
Speaker 2: this year. It's going to be Ricky Piersoll of the
Speaker 2: San Francisco.
Speaker 5: If he gets back that soon. Not only did the
Speaker 5: bullet go through his chest, that went.
Speaker 2: Out the back, and he's going to be back by October,
Speaker 2: they're saying. The reports now are that he's gonna miss
Speaker 2: likely four games and he'll be back.
Speaker 5: Okay, how lucky.
Speaker 6: You got to be to go in and out and
Speaker 6: not hit anything significant?
Speaker 3: Right, my lord, that's when you say God is good.
Speaker 3: That's all you can say about that.
Speaker 4: Good good thing.
Speaker 2: We got guns the other.
Speaker 5: I couldn't help myself when you're talking.
Speaker 2: About being out four games. You know, there was a
Speaker 2: recent incident. It was two years ago. Brian Robinson, running
Speaker 2: back for the Washington Commanders, was shot in the knee
Speaker 2: and glute during an armed robbery. That was August twenty eighth,
Speaker 2: twenty twenty two, and he missed four games, came back,
Speaker 2: but he didn't have the bullet go through his chest
Speaker 2: all the way and exit the back.
Speaker 3: Of his No, that's the best thing happened to him. Yes, right,
Speaker 3: they didn't have to go in and get it right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so there was no surgery involved.
Speaker 5: But isn't there like a tunnel through there?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I'm serious that we could talk about the convenience of
Speaker 3: the location all we want. The dude got shot. Okay,
Speaker 3: that's just all he is doing. And he's coming back
Speaker 3: before Halloween. Come on, that's too that's too too.
Speaker 2: So they'll be back before Dallas plays San Francisco. Oh
Speaker 2: that's true.
Speaker 5: What was he like a third round pick?
Speaker 9: Hey?
Speaker 2: No, he was up into the first round of the
Speaker 2: first Okay. Yeah, he's a big kid too. If he's
Speaker 2: an athletic wide receiving, very athletic.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I guess if you got a gun, you're a
Speaker 5: little braver.
Speaker 2: And by the way, the and the night, the other
Speaker 2: news coming out of San Francisco is that Trent Williams
Speaker 2: is now shown up. Yeah.
Speaker 6: Well, of course it's not going to miss a pay day.
Speaker 6: I try to tell you guys that no one misses
Speaker 6: a pay day, and Jamar Chase will be the next one.
Speaker 2: Troy Everson shows up every day.
Speaker 4: You got that right there.
Speaker 3: That is the only way I'll be showing up here
Speaker 3: every day.
Speaker 2: He'll show up a minute before show.
Speaker 8: To right, But I'm here, I'm here, or one game
Speaker 8: before or one minute before the show started, right, I
Speaker 8: mean I pointed out last week.
Speaker 6: You know that summer Michael held out, he showed up
Speaker 6: on Thursday for the Monday night game.
Speaker 2: Now, Emmett did miss two weeks.
Speaker 5: He did.
Speaker 4: No, that was legendary.
Speaker 5: But he didn't have a contract, so.
Speaker 4: He had no choice.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he was. He got the same what he was missing.
Speaker 2: As it turned out, he got the same amount of
Speaker 2: money as what he would have gotten. Yeah, if he
Speaker 2: had played in those games, if I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 3: Right after he signed, then they gave Troy a raise
Speaker 3: and he was already underpaid.
Speaker 4: So that was weird.
Speaker 2: That's the quarterback, that's right. Quarterback gets the money.
Speaker 4: Quarterback didn't have to hold out either that summer.
Speaker 6: That summer that Michael held out, there was four or
Speaker 6: five other starters who held out. Also, everybody was looking
Speaker 6: for money after eleven and five seasons.
Speaker 2: By the way, speaking of quarterbacks, at the end of
Speaker 2: last it's funny how a holiday weekend puts things on
Speaker 2: the back burner. Because at the end of last week,
Speaker 2: after the CD signing, and then okay, when's the Dak
Speaker 2: signing going to happen, and then Dak talked on Thursday
Speaker 2: and that got a lot of play. And now here
Speaker 2: we are, we're Tuesday of game week, and uh so,
Speaker 2: what's gonna happen here?
Speaker 6: Well, I don't think anything's gonna happen unless the other
Speaker 6: side says, Okay, we don't need sixty million average a year.
Speaker 6: Because the difference between Dak and the young quarterbacks that
Speaker 6: got that money, they were only going into their second
Speaker 6: year of the Contra, second second contract, right, so there
Speaker 6: was the ability to stuff pro rated signing bonus into.
Speaker 5: Their last year, their fifth year. They can't do that. Well,
Speaker 5: they could do it.
Speaker 6: With Dak, but he's already already there's five million.
Speaker 2: There's already money stuff there.
Speaker 6: Right, they've stuffed it for three times, so he's got
Speaker 6: forty million there that's still got be accounted for beyond
Speaker 6: what they sign for.
Speaker 5: So that's what's holding this whole thing up.
Speaker 6: The fact that, and it dawned on me that next year,
Speaker 6: ceed Lamb, they're going to have to redo his base
Speaker 6: salary because his cap hit next year is going to
Speaker 6: be like thirty three million dollars. So take thirty three
Speaker 6: and if Dak counts sixty, that's ninety three million out
Speaker 6: of two sixty for two guys.
Speaker 5: And if Zach Martin is not playing next year, his
Speaker 5: pro ration from his.
Speaker 6: Restructures seventeen million for not being here, and then DeMarcus
Speaker 6: Lawrence is another seven or eight million. And they're in
Speaker 6: the final year of their contracts too, So are they
Speaker 6: going to continue to play what eleventh or twelfth season?
Speaker 5: Who knows, But it's going to cost.
Speaker 6: So you can keep restructuring base salaries and pushing it
Speaker 6: down the road, but at some point it catches up
Speaker 6: with you. And that's why the DAK thing is complicated.
Speaker 6: It's not as easy as well, that's the market you
Speaker 6: got to pay it, and Jerry's saying, well, I don't
Speaker 6: have to set the market price. This is what I
Speaker 6: can afford for my situation.
Speaker 2: So is there a salary cap benefit to wait until
Speaker 2: after the season, And maybe that's too deep to get
Speaker 2: into in one minute.
Speaker 6: Not so much, because you still need five years to
Speaker 6: pro rate the signing bonus, right, because if you did
Speaker 6: it now, you could say, oh, I'll put one year in.
Speaker 2: This, like you're not doing a deal now in order
Speaker 2: to create more salary cap space.
Speaker 5: Now, no, it's going to cost you.
Speaker 6: It won't be you know, the cost next year will
Speaker 6: be for those many years, right, and.
Speaker 2: Already counts so much against see five million against the
Speaker 2: cap this year, and there's it's not like you can hide.
Speaker 2: You can put some of that into this year to easey.
Speaker 2: That helps you along for future years. And then if
Speaker 2: you want, you need that money in order to sign
Speaker 2: players and stuff as a season.
Speaker 6: And if you want to pro rate it, you really
Speaker 6: need five years. But he turns thirty two next year,
Speaker 6: I believe, so is he gonna play till thirty seven?
Speaker 6: And those other contracts, just like CDs that last year
Speaker 6: there's a huge base salary that's not guaranteed, so that
Speaker 6: that blows up what the average is if you take
Speaker 6: out the non guaranteed last year. Yeah, CDs averaging thirty
Speaker 6: million a year, same thing as Jefferson thirty million a year.
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