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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL podcast Always wear sunscreen outdoors? God

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Speaker 1: do it. From the Chris Westling podcast studio. It's around

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Speaker 1: the NFL. I'm Dan Hansis, Greg Rosenthal, Mark Sessler. I'll

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Speaker 1: do that if I'm on like the golf course. Um,

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Speaker 1: if I'm at the beach, but not everywhere I go,

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Speaker 1: I'm not powder. I typically venture outside. Now you're you're

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Speaker 1: a man who wears his tan if he was out

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Speaker 1: doing some yard work. That, um, that drop is not true.

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Speaker 1: It was not true of our our great friend Wes.

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Speaker 1: He often would not put the sunscreen on his dome.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna have Daniel Jeremiah in later this week, went

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Speaker 1: on Wednesday and yeah, famously west just burned the hell

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Speaker 1: not a death sentence being bald. You shave it. And

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Speaker 1: the Hotel UM, the builtmore in Phoenix, but that's where

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Speaker 1: the NFL annual meetings are UM this week also known

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Speaker 1: No be on the lookout tomorrow when we roll out

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Speaker 1: a DJ special to today. We decided there was so much,

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Speaker 1: so many little nugs, big and small that came out

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Speaker 1: narratives that have been hanging out right, the Lamar and

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Speaker 1: I think that's just like these dramas continue. There's little

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Speaker 1: in regards to my future plans, and they set up.

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Speaker 1: still a financial situation. And quite frankly to me, Greg,

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Speaker 1: There's no way akers with the meek Mill references. He

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Speaker 1: there's no way that it can't be. Wow, Greg, you've

428
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Speaker 1: never had anything critical before to say about Bob, and

429
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Speaker 1: I had a couple of things. In fact, I have

430
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Speaker 1: many times in this show that I don't like it

431
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Speaker 1: when the when the three guys were battling like that,

432
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Speaker 1: It's like, oh, Belichick, Craft, and Brady the three pillars,

433
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Speaker 1: and I get it, but like, that's not My Other

434
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Speaker 1: side of this was I thought that he was a

435
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Speaker 1: little just a little bit chilly on the future of

436
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Speaker 1: Belichick because we know that Belichick is thirty wins away

437
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Speaker 1: from chasing Don Shula's record, and do we have Robert

438
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Speaker 1: Craft on that. Look, I'd like him to break Don

439
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Speaker 1: Shula's record, but I'm not looking for any of our

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Speaker 1: players to great get great stats. That isn't We're about

441
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Speaker 1: winning and doing whatever we can to win, and that's

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Speaker 1: what our focus is now. And I it's very important

443
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Speaker 1: to me that we make the playoffs, and that's what

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Speaker 1: I hope happens next year. And this married into a

445
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Speaker 1: lot of flowery comments about Jared Mayo, who they love

446
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Speaker 1: and who he talked about as someone he hoped might

447
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Speaker 1: even be a head coach for the team down the

448
00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:52,360
Speaker 1: road at some point. And then I thought the icing

449
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Speaker 1: on the cake that sound like the playoffs are bust

450
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,199
Speaker 1: man a little bit. I think so. The icing on

451
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Speaker 1: the cake was they asked about Matt Patricia and that

452
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Speaker 1: whole uttered Bockle from a year ago, and listen to

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Speaker 1: what he had to say here. I think he got

454
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Speaker 1: put in a difficult position, and I think it was

455
00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:14,160
Speaker 1: sort of an experiment and he worked very hard at it,

456
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Speaker 1: and in retrospect, I don't think it was it the

457
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Speaker 1: right thing, but and I feel bad for him because

458
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Speaker 1: he's such a hard worker. He got put in a

459
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Speaker 1: difficult position. That is by far greggy. And you've been

460
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Speaker 1: following this team as closely as anyone the most public

461
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Speaker 1: in terms of criticism Belichick has ever gotten from his

462
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Speaker 1: head coach, right, I mean certainly since the Brady years started,

463
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Speaker 1: And it really does feel like Craft is letting the

464
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Speaker 1: public know that. Yeah, like Bill doesn't just get I

465
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Speaker 1: mean the way to me Like that question the first

466
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Speaker 1: question that got set up where it was like, what

467
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Speaker 1: was it the Don Shula business? If it happens again

468
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Speaker 1: a losing season, could Bill's jobbing je pretty? Or is

469
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Speaker 1: he here to break Don Chulo's all time wins record?

470
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Speaker 1: And beyond like the way to easily answer that question

471
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Speaker 1: is like, what Bill Belichick is done for our organization.

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Speaker 1: You can't put a price on it. You can't even

473
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Speaker 1: begin to explain how important he's been for us, and

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Speaker 1: we want Bill to be here for the rest of

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Speaker 1: his career, Like, and you can just leave it there.

476
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Speaker 1: You didn't hear that you don't have headlines. Instead, he

477
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:25,920
Speaker 1: made a pointed reference to say, like, listen, records are good,

478
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Speaker 1: but that we don't just keep people around just to

479
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Speaker 1: break records, and I want to be in the playoffs

480
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Speaker 1: next year. This is a big subplot around this team there.

481
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Speaker 1: Absolutely it started at the beginning of the off season

482
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Speaker 1: when they released the statements to explain how Drod Mayo

483
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Speaker 1: is going to stay and they said what his new

484
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Speaker 1: title is going to be. I think they might have

485
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Speaker 1: even mentioned that he got to raise in the statement,

486
00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:52,000
Speaker 1: and just like people covering the team were like, it's amazing,

487
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:55,480
Speaker 1: And that was clearly Robert Kraft saying I don't care

488
00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:57,680
Speaker 1: how you normally do things that they don't have real

489
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Speaker 1: titles and we don't announce it till four months later

490
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,119
Speaker 1: and blah blah blah, like I'm announcing this now and

491
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,119
Speaker 1: this is what we're gonna do, and it was felt

492
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Speaker 1: like a bit of Kraft taking control back of the organization.

493
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Speaker 1: He's eighty one years old, Robert Kraft too, I don't

494
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Speaker 1: think he wants to stick around at seven and nine,

495
00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:16,679
Speaker 1: at seven and ten, all that stuff. And you're absolutely right.

496
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Speaker 1: I think it might be a playoff or bust scenario

497
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Speaker 1: Old BB one kind of funny. During the setup to

498
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Speaker 1: that initial question, a reporter said, you know, you guys

499
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Speaker 1: have posted a losing record in two of the last

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Speaker 1: three seasons, and then Kraft interrupted the reporter and he goes,

501
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Speaker 1: we were eight and nine last year. When was the

502
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Speaker 1: And then the reporters like the Cam Newton year, and

503
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Speaker 1: Kraft was like, oh, the Cam Newton Yeah to like

504
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,720
Speaker 1: like everyone else, Yeah, Kraft forgot that the Cam Newton

505
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Speaker 1: year exists in Patriots history post Tom Brady. It was.

506
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Speaker 1: It was the pandemic year. It was a tough time

507
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Speaker 1: for everyone. Where did they go seventh? They went eight

508
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Speaker 1: and nine that year too, I don't even that was

509
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Speaker 1: seven and nine, seven and nine. Um, so yeah, that's interesting.

510
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,959
Speaker 1: I thought that was almost like the most fascinating thing

511
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Speaker 1: that came out of though with you. I'm with you,

512
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Speaker 1: and they and then they asked Bill Belichick, what what's

513
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 1: the reason fans should be optimistic for what's ahead? What

514
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:14,480
Speaker 1: would you say to them to give them a reason

515
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:18,160
Speaker 1: to be optimistic for what's a hint for the Pats

516
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:28,440
Speaker 1: the last twenty five years? You really you gotta watch

517
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:31,639
Speaker 1: the YouTube show. He sits there kind of rocking in

518
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,400
Speaker 1: his chair, staring at the reporter and thinking what he's

519
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 1: gonna say. And that question is coming from two feet

520
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:41,439
Speaker 1: away from Mike Reese, who knows just how to ask it,

521
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:45,679
Speaker 1: and who has been in Foxborough as long, maybe longer

522
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Speaker 1: uninterrupted than Bill Belichick actually, and hearing Tom Curran, who

523
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Speaker 1: asked another one of these key questions for Craving, hearing

524
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Speaker 1: his interpretation of like Belichick's usually the like, we're not

525
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Speaker 1: resting on past history, and we're certainly not worried about

526
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:08,439
Speaker 1: individual honors over the team and everything, and that Craft

527
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 1: is really trying to say, like, look, this has been

528
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 1: your rules for twenty years. I'm going to make you

529
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 1: play by your rules. And Sauc's all right, we got

530
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:19,120
Speaker 1: a lot more to get to, but let's first take

531
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Speaker 1: a quick break. All right, we're back mark something else

532
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 1: that jumped out to you I guess you could go

533
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Speaker 1: to the sort of split response on Brock Purty from

534
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan and John Lynch, you would be interested in

535
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 1: well just I mean, I think that you know, and

536
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 1: they seem to always sort of be on the same

537
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:43,680
Speaker 1: page about things. But John Lynch was very optimistic about

538
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 1: the concept of Brock Purty coming back in time for

539
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Speaker 1: training camp. I leave the leader in the clubhouse at

540
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,440
Speaker 1: that you know, like Kyle will make those kind of decisions,

541
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Speaker 1: But I know when we talk, I think Brox probably

542
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,640
Speaker 1: earned that right to be the guy. If we were

543
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 1: to line up, he'd probably take that first snap. And

544
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Speaker 1: I'm really excited about where trades with his progress from

545
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 1: his injury. He's been working really hard, and you know,

546
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 1: I love the opportunity to be with to bring and

547
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:11,879
Speaker 1: Sam Darnald and his skill set. We think it's a

548
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:15,920
Speaker 1: really good fit and so we liked that. We liked

549
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 1: that room a lot. Forty nine Ers fan Girl courtesy there. Yeah,

550
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:21,639
Speaker 1: I mean, and Shanahan talked about the fact that you

551
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 1: know you're not going to have Purty until maybe even

552
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 1: weeks into the season, and even mentioned that Trey Lance

553
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 1: it parted. It is like, what is the future of

554
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 1: Trey Lance. Is he tradeable? Is he actually having a chance?

555
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 1: Lynch mentioned you know there's a chance he could start again,

556
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,400
Speaker 1: but Brock Purdy is in the flying the ointment here

557
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 1: and Shanahan mentioned Trey Lance and Sam Darnold even competing

558
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 1: for the starting job early on in the season. Now

559
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 1: we believe Trey can be that. I think he would

560
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 1: have done it last year if he stayed healthy. The

561
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:49,240
Speaker 1: good thing for him is with brock By and heard

562
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:51,719
Speaker 1: and stuff, he has an opportunity to try to regain

563
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 1: that in everything. And that's also we brought in Sam

564
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 1: because we can't be set for sure on Brock because

565
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 1: you never know how the injury will go. We think

566
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Speaker 1: it will go well and we're optimistic about it, but

567
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 1: right now that's on hold. M I mean, Shanahan, it's

568
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,959
Speaker 1: an early morning. Wouldn't surprise me if he was one

569
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 1: of those coaches that was out late. Feels like surprised

570
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 1: me if he was. He's got a lot of friends

571
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 1: there and it looks like it might have been. But

572
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 1: but he's like, I'm gonna be on camera here, I'm

573
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 1: gonna put it together, my hair is gonna look good,

574
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 1: and you're not gonna really know that I was the

575
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 1: guy out there late last night. You know what I'm saying,

576
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 1: it's important. I would say there's some indication he was

577
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Speaker 1: one of those guys. Some come in though, and they're

578
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:35,479
Speaker 1: just they put the hat on. They're sort of like

579
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 1: grumbling their haggard. He's at least trying to put a

580
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 1: good face on it, is what I said of Hair.

581
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 1: How about by the way, Sam Darnold's starting for this team,

582
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 1: there's no question about it. Well, they say, well, there's

583
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 1: reports connecting party to like mid September. Maybe when they

584
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 1: say that at this point in the off season, that's

585
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 1: that's usually your last sign. That's a bad sign. But

586
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 1: why are you so confident? Is it injury related for

587
00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 1: Trey Lancer? You just think he's gonna beat out Trey Lancer,

588
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 1: don't I mean a leadership change. I just think they

589
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 1: like Sam Darnold and the fact that Trey Lance is

590
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 1: gonna split reps with him right off the bat. And

591
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 1: I know Trey Lance is coming off an injury and

592
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 1: that that's part of it too. And there's a little

593
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 1: buzz of like, is Trey Lance ever gonna take snaps

594
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 1: for the forty nine ers again, could this just be

595
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 1: Sam Darnold and brock Purty this year? You can trade

596
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 1: Tray Lance, right, That's what I mean, Like if it starts,

597
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 1: look at I just I think they're excited about Sam

598
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 1: Darnold and we'll see if they stay excited if they

599
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 1: trade Trey Lance. I mean, I mean, his value is

600
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 1: higher than Zach Wilson, who's taking a pick before him,

601
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 1: I would think, But are they that much different in

602
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 1: terms of if you put him on the market, what

603
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 1: are you expect me to get back? You're probably gonna

604
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 1: have to to eat salary, right, and you're maybe maybe a

605
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 1: mid round pick. Maybe you could talk someone into a three.

606
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Speaker 1: I just don't think he's shown enough in addition to

607
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 1: the injury issues to have much trade right. And I

608
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 1: mean I am pro brock Purty to the end of days,

609
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 1: but I also would feel like, yes, that was a

610
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 1: magical run, But do you not need to see a

611
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 1: little bit more from him post injury before you moved

612
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 1: Trey Lance and roll with Sam Darnold and brock Purty. Yeah, Well,

613
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 1: we'll see. It's a big offseason for Lance, I think, yeah,

614
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 1: depending on how he looked in the preseason. If he

615
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 1: played and looked good. You make a good point, he

616
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 1: would not have amazing tradement. I think there'd be a

617
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:15,239
Speaker 1: different Zach Wilson you maybe get very little for and

618
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 1: Trey Lance would be like a mid round pick. But

619
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Speaker 1: that's pretty disappointing when you traded three first round picks

620
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 1: to go get it right and you I'm a darnold

621
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 1: vand obviously, but if I'm running the Niners like I

622
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 1: am giving Trey Lance, yeah a chance like that way,

623
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 1: I know I have this window here where I have

624
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 1: Purty on the shelf, and now you could give Lance

625
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 1: some run and really know for sure whether or not

626
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 1: the guy that you were drafting is who you thought

627
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 1: or hoped he was. Anyways, it's not controversial. Trey Lance

628
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 1: actually said a couple a while back that Brock Purty

629
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Speaker 1: deserved the starting job, which is a strange thing for

630
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Speaker 1: him to say deserve. All right, anyway, um, Washington, I'll

631
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 1: circle back real quick to Washington. Chase Young. They were

632
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 1: asked about Chase Young, m who obviously was drafted, came

633
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 1: into the league as a high first round pick, a

634
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 1: potential generational talent on the edge. His fifth year option

635
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 1: needs to be picked up and I thought it was

636
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 1: interesting hearing this when we talk about what's going on

637
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 1: with the sale and ownership and how that affects a

638
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 1: team when you're trying to get ready for a new

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Speaker 1: season and build toward the future. Here's what Ron Vera said.

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Speaker 1: It's one of those things that you've got to really

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Speaker 1: think it through. You've got to be able to plan

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Speaker 1: it out. And with the situation we're in right now,

643
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Speaker 1: waiting on like everybody else to find out, you know, ownership,

644
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Speaker 1: we you know, we got to kind of drag our

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Speaker 1: feed a little bit until we get to that point

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Speaker 1: and find out, you know, do we have to find

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Speaker 1: out from whoever the new ownership To be honest, if

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Speaker 1: there's a new owner, we have to go to them

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Speaker 1: and find out, you know what I'm saying it So

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Speaker 1: I don't know at this point. I mean when the

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Speaker 1: head coach is saying things like we have to drag

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Speaker 1: our feet feed a little bit, and we have to

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Speaker 1: wait before a deal, and it's the sale of a

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Speaker 1: it's like an upwards of ten billion dollars sale. These

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Speaker 1: things don't happen overnight quickly. The whole organization and is

656
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 1: in gridlock right now. It feels like six billion, right

657
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 1: it ten billion was succession. They got ten from from

658
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Speaker 1: the fake CNN. Yeah, to think of the name of

659
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 1: by the way, the Conservative, which is interesting. Yeah, that's annoying.

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Speaker 1: I think they paid too much. I think they paid

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Speaker 1: too I do not care what the watching post says anyway,

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Speaker 1: So that is interesting. It's crazy. And Rivera, yeah, they

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Speaker 1: asked about this all happening, you know under his tenure.

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Speaker 1: It's been kind of a wild tenure for Ron Rivera,

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Speaker 1: and he just said, par for the course. You think

666
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 1: it's like one of the first Like he's he's he

667
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 1: was a good hire for a team in chaos because

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Speaker 1: he's Ron Rivera, because he's handled all this so well. Um,

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Speaker 1: this sounds like frustration because it's it's his family. It's

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Speaker 1: all these other people's families around the building where none

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Speaker 1: of them know if they're going to be employeed a

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Speaker 1: year from now, and they've if of any team in

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Speaker 1: the league, they've been let down by their ownership. He

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Speaker 1: also um came out publicly and was quoted saying on Tuesday,

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Speaker 1: we do not have this sound, but I do have

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Speaker 1: the quote that quote. I'm a big bang theory guy.

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00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 1: I'm a big big bang theory guy. I'm like the

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00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 1: show I'm in. I'm in bang theories too, in terms

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Speaker 1: of like when we're discussing people being on the short

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Speaker 1: end of things. But big big bang theory guy. You

681
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 1: don't know how to say it. It's like rebounds funny. Um. Uh.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what the context was for that, but

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Speaker 1: for us, I thought it was interesting that on the

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Speaker 1: same day that Sean Payton and George Payton not related,

685
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 1: not spelled the same, but working together. Uh. Annoying for

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Speaker 1: both men. Yeah, spoke about Jerry Judy and in Courtland

687
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 1: Sutton and Sean Payton said we are not trading them,

688
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:56,399
Speaker 1: and uh, George Peyton said we're not interested in trading them.

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Speaker 1: And on the very same day there was reporting from

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Speaker 1: Denver media that it was like, well unless they get

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Speaker 1: like a better offer. Here's Peyton's exact words. I think

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Speaker 1: it's pretty common every offseason, Um, new coach, not a

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Speaker 1: real deep receiver draft. Um, look, I've been you read

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Speaker 1: a bunch of these things that are that are written

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00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 1: now and and uh, I would say a number of

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Speaker 1: teams of callers. But I said it yesterday that it's

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Speaker 1: not something we're interested in doing. It's one of the

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Speaker 1: most beautiful hotels I've ever stayed at in my life,

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Speaker 1: maybe the nicest I've ever been in UM And it

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00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 1: has pools and various areas, huge open green sun sunning areas.

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Speaker 1: I believe there's a golf course. There is bars here,

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00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 1: there and everywhere. In other words, it's a wonderful place

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Speaker 1: to spend a night before the coach's breakfast. We Um,

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Speaker 1: Greg and I were there one year and we saw

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Speaker 1: Bill Belichick and uh Linda holiday Um returning from a

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00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 1: heated one on one tennis battle with each other. Is

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Speaker 1: that where we saw Anderson Cooper as well, Gregg, Yes,

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Speaker 1: Panton a run we've we've milked, Uh, I mean, the

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Speaker 1: expenses that we in Kurd were so worth it for

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Speaker 1: NFL media, just for how many times we've gotten to

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00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 1: use this story. Anyway, I just find it funny that

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Speaker 1: the way Peyton gets around, I mean, it's essentially lying

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Speaker 1: if it was any other business. But he's like I've read,

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00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 1: I've read those things, like we know where they're coming from.

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Speaker 1: Literally the same person, uh, that you know is quoting

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Speaker 1: Peyton and asking these questions. Mike Cliffs from UM nine

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00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 1: News in Denver said from a source that, Uh, the

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00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 1: Broncos wouldn't deal unless it was a second rounder for

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Speaker 1: Sutton or a first for Judy. So there's a very

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Speaker 1: specific price. They're not getting that price at this point.

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00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:56,799
Speaker 1: They've got to kind of put the tooth based back

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Speaker 1: into the two. But at some point, I don't know

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Speaker 1: I'd give up a second the only they know he

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Speaker 1: gets a lot of money, so's it's a lot if

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Speaker 1: you're if you're Sean Payton though, and you've got to

726
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 1: try to fix what happened last year on offense, like

727
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 1: stripping away wide receivers. He did mention it's not a

728
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Speaker 1: great draft. They don't have any draft picks, Like there

729
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 1: is a world where it's like stick with these guys

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Speaker 1: versus emptying the cupboard entirely. Yeah, just that report just

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00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:19,799
Speaker 1: gave me an idea. There's a very specific price for

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Speaker 1: those guys. Don't know if they'll get it. A first

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Speaker 1: for Judy seems unlikely, second for SUI, first for Jerry Judy,

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Speaker 1: Hell no, probably not. I do like Jerry Judy. Um

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Speaker 1: any other sound guys, any other I have one other

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Speaker 1: bit of news that came out of Arizona. I mean

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Speaker 1: we moved to We've got the proposals, That's what I

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Speaker 1: was talking. Let's talk about that, all right, Let's talk

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00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 1: about the NFL owners vote in favor of letting players

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Speaker 1: wear numbers zero. I love this. The league voted tuesday

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Speaker 1: to allow all players other this sucks for the big

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Speaker 1: men though, Yeah, other than offensive and defensive linemen to

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Speaker 1: wear the jersey number zero is I always like who submit?

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00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:03,439
Speaker 1: Did the proposal to the Eagles submitted it? It also

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00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:06,880
Speaker 1: allows kickers and punters to use any jersey numeral between

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Speaker 1: zero and forty nine and ninety to ninety nine. That

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00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:12,280
Speaker 1: bothers me a little bit. Do you want your place

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Speaker 1: kicker out there at number ninety three? Maybe? Is he

749
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 1: making maybe kick? I don't know. I kind of like it,

750
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Speaker 1: like I'm making the kick. I'm a little surprised, Um

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00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 1: that this playful little rule just swept right through. Um.

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Speaker 1: I'm really happy that it did. I feel for these

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00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:31,760
Speaker 1: the bmth though, that they have to have the offensive

754
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 1: and defensive lines. What the bohemoths behemoth. Calvin Ridley, by

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00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 1: the way, tweeted um excited to be the first Jaguars

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00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 1: player to wear zero shout out to JAG's equip Wow,

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00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 1: the equipment guys have on Twitter hand, we did learn

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00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 1: like this. This was as low octane of rules changes.

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00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 1: I feel like we number zero over no. I like that. Yeah,

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00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:59,400
Speaker 1: that was honestly the most interesting thing that actually passed.

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00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 1: The other things that passed were quite minor, making tripling

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00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:08,279
Speaker 1: penalty a personal foul. They were like tweaking what the

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00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:13,360
Speaker 1: definition of launch means. You can't benefit from the extension

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Speaker 1: of the first half as a result of a penalty. Basically,

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Speaker 1: you can't intentionally commit a penalty on the at the

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00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 1: end of the first half, which I did think happened

767
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 1: once last year, and then get to run another play.

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Speaker 1: But the interesting things didn't happen. One more that did

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Speaker 1: happen because I think it is it will come into play,

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Speaker 1: it will be interesting. The NFL also voted to expanding

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Speaker 1: scene replay to allow for a review on failed fourth

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00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 1: down attempts. So typically approve of that, that's automatic review.

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Speaker 1: Then on a failed fourth down attempt. It usually is

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Speaker 1: for scoring plays and turnovers, and I guess a fourth

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Speaker 1: down attempt at fails is a kind of a turnover,

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00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:54,319
Speaker 1: so it is logic to it. That's good I don't

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00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 1: know where that one came from, submitted by the Texans.

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Speaker 1: They did not approve the punt the punt touchback, which

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Speaker 1: I like that idea. They were going to make a

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Speaker 1: punt if you hit the ball into the end zone

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00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 1: or the punting goes back to the twenty five. That

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00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:12,759
Speaker 1: didn't happen. Uh, they didn't. They tabled once again the

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Speaker 1: rule where you'd try the fourth and twenty. Yes, the

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Speaker 1: outside kicks. They keep tabling it though they want to

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Speaker 1: talk about it again. I like that, But they rejected

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Speaker 1: making uh personal foul penalty in terms of hitting the

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Speaker 1: quarterback reviewable, which I really thought might happen, and they

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00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 1: didn't even get close. And that's the to me, the

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00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 1: whole things of failure until they finally let common sense prevail,

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Speaker 1: that is going to continue. Not just the quarterback. I

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00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:42,800
Speaker 1: also think for any type of targeting type foul on

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00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 1: these vicious hits that are happening in a game that

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00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 1: is moving so fast, that can swing a contest in

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Speaker 1: terms of it could be it could be a fourth

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Speaker 1: and twenty and there's a hit over the middle or

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00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 1: a quarterback it's taken down and they get it should

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00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:58,399
Speaker 1: be a turnover, and instead it's not only not even

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Speaker 1: not only just the first down of ten yard gain

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Speaker 1: for the offense. If it's a play that could be

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Speaker 1: that consequential, take a look. It doesn't happen all that

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00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 1: often where it should. Really just I think maybe the

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00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:11,359
Speaker 1: piece of play is something that they they have an

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Speaker 1: eye on that they're trying to protect as well, and

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00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:15,799
Speaker 1: that could be coming into play, but I think it's

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00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 1: too important to ignore it. Yeah, I mean, if anything,

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00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 1: over the last number of years, they've been reactive to

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00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:24,800
Speaker 1: rule changes that you know, blow up playoff playoff games

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00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:27,839
Speaker 1: become talking points on Twitter and eruughing. The passer thing

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00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:30,319
Speaker 1: to me fell right into that territory, and I think

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00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 1: it's a lost opportunity. The Lions had some great ideas.

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Speaker 1: You said, you like seeing who who proposes that the

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00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 1: Lions were money. They wanted to get more opportunities to

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Speaker 1: get another challenge. Basically, if you keep getting your challenges right,

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Speaker 1: you get a third. They rejected that, you know, that's lame,

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Speaker 1: and then they also wanted to be able to challenge

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00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 1: personal fouls that like you, yeah, it's similar to the

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00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 1: quarterback one, but basically any personal foul that you could

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00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 1: be able to challenge that since such a big penalty,

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00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:03,799
Speaker 1: and they ended up taking that away. They withdrew it

820
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 1: because he knew it wasn't going to pass, holding down

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Speaker 1: our lines, just like you two suppressors are doing. Don't

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Speaker 1: put me in the anti Lions camp. At first, when

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Speaker 1: we were at this season and Jamal Williams was there,

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00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 1: we were like, oh, yeah, we're gonna run it back.

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00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 1: We were talking about running it back that night, you know,

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Speaker 1: and the Packers night and then falling high that moment.

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Speaker 1: What world do you live in? It's a beautiful one, Sonny.

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Speaker 1: I should mention as well. Not connected to the owners meetings,

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Speaker 1: the Seahawks reached a one year, seven million dollar deal

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Speaker 1: to bring back Bobby Wagner, coming off a All Pro

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Speaker 1: season with the Rams. Uh, this is I love it.

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00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 1: Everyone loves it. He'd like to see the homegrown guys

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00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:50,319
Speaker 1: that had long careers um stay there the whole time.

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00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:52,759
Speaker 1: He went to LA In a weird scenario, it's like

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00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:54,720
Speaker 1: it's John Lennon year when he broke up with Yoko

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00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 1: and just exactly and I think he was second team

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00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:00,360
Speaker 1: All Pro but didn't seem to have a huge arget.

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00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 1: So maybe that's a little bit something where you squint,

839
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 1: like how good was he last year and now he's

840
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:08,319
Speaker 1: a year older. But if you're a Seattle Seahawks fan,

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00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 1: you're loving it. One year seven million turned into like

842
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 1: the kind of mic contract for like really good but

843
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 1: aging players, especially linebackers. Lavanti David got the same thing.

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00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 1: Although there's been some reports questioning how like if this

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00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 1: was an up to seven million or guaranteed seven million,

846
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 1: like Seahawks fans were complaining way too much about this.

847
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 1: Just be happy you got Bobby Wagner back. Come on,

848
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 1: I like this little nugget. Remember we talked about the

849
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Speaker 1: report cards for all these teams and how the Cardinals

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Speaker 1: were absolutely flamed by their own players for everything from

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Speaker 1: the caneteria, the uneven floors and just a hot mess.

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Speaker 1: But Jonathan Gannon has been working very closely with Michael Bidwell,

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Speaker 1: the owner, to work on some of that stuff. And

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Speaker 1: he said he's never even read the report card. But

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Speaker 1: he's like, we're doing things differently. He's never read the

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Speaker 1: report card. That's what he said. It's not reactive off

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Speaker 1: the report card. He doesn't care about it. But it's no,

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Speaker 1: he wasn't there, so I guess that's not as obnoxious.

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Speaker 1: Wait for a second, I thought you meant Bidwell. No, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: I think Bidwell, if anything, was getting credit from Gannon

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Speaker 1: for proactively wanting to work on things. So that's a

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Speaker 1: pro for um. You know, you're sure. I don't they

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Speaker 1: pay for coffee in that building, But it sounded like it.

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Speaker 1: One little thing that they was kind of did bubble

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Speaker 1: up was the Herbert contract talks have started. It's like,

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Speaker 1: I do like it when they're like just one day

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Speaker 1: Joe Burrow or justin Herbert hopefully just like sign a

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Speaker 1: big contract and it's not this like long running story.

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Speaker 1: Wouldn't it be nice? Um? I have my doubts when

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Speaker 1: it comes to Burrow just because it's the Bengals, But

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Speaker 1: prove me wrong, Bengals. It Isn't it is interesting not

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Speaker 1: to endlessly go in the cycle of talking about the

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Speaker 1: Lamar contract. If if Herbert or Burrow, and I wonder

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Speaker 1: if some of this is tied into everyone waiting to

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Speaker 1: see how the Lamar saga unfolds. If those guys don't

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Speaker 1: get fully guaranteed contracts, like but that that ship of sale,

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Speaker 1: no one thinks he has a chance to get a

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Speaker 1: fully guaranteed track Lamar at this point. Yeah, but publicly, well,

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Speaker 1: I would assume they won't either, but I would assume

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Speaker 1: they'll get more guaranteed money than Kyler Murray got. Feels

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Speaker 1: like the Lamar should be going to a little starting point.

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Speaker 1: Lamar should be going to the Falcons, but the team

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Speaker 1: decided that Desmond Ritter and Tyler Haneke are there. Guys,

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Speaker 1: and Arthur Smith said Tuesday that the second year pro

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Speaker 1: Ritter will begin the season as the team's starting quarterback.

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Speaker 1: The plan is to start Desmond. That's our plan going

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Speaker 1: forward from the owner. I'm really looking forward to at

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Speaker 1: some point this offseason, I gotta just watch you. We

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Speaker 1: gotta all just watch all the Desmond Ridder throws, I

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Speaker 1: promise you, and then I must like I'm going crazy

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Speaker 1: and now, and then we'll come in with some fiery

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Speaker 1: hot takes. It's going to be an exciting week. It

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Speaker 1: would maybe just make it Desmond Ridder Week. His last

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Speaker 1: two games, he did improve, but it's this is very disturbing.

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Speaker 1: An ominous headline from ESPN Seahawks's Pete Carol quashes talk

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Speaker 1: of Jamal Adams's demise. It seems pretty heavy, fiery headlines. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he just like job security. He does seem there were

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Speaker 1: a couple of little receiver moves that could matter. DJ

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Speaker 1: Chark got five million dollars from the Panthers. I mean,

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Speaker 1: at this point he has a chance at least to

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Speaker 1: be their number one receiver, so at least it's worth

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Speaker 1: noting or number two he's gonna play. Nelson Agilar is

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Speaker 1: a member of the Baltimore Ravens, so they are come

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Speaker 1: on back, Lamar, Why did the Ravens specialize in signing

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Speaker 1: underwhelming wide receivers? Actually, think think that's a good contract,

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Speaker 1: one for three and a half for Nelson Aglar. Who's

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Speaker 1: you know, he's got some juice left here. I mean

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Speaker 1: everyone that was with the Patriots you almost can throw

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Speaker 1: out that year. I mean, I'd rather have him than

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Speaker 1: DeVante Parker, who who the Patriots are paying like six

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Speaker 1: million dollars to say anything else. Taylor rapped to the

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Speaker 1: Bills were really bang stopped talking? Greg think it should recovered?

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Speaker 1: All right, good, I think we've covered it. Let's get

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Speaker 1: this um, Let's get this bad boy out to the

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Speaker 1: public again. A reminder that Daniel Jeremiah of NFL Network

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Speaker 1: Draft Guru they call him, at least that's what the

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Speaker 1: teenagers call him. He'll be on this show tomorrow in

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Speaker 1: a draft special for around the NFL, so it'll be

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Speaker 1: there for that, and then we'll have another show later

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Speaker 1: this week with the Great Collie and Wolf because we're

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Speaker 1: getting her every week. Are you noticing that that's a

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Speaker 1: great trend. The summer of Connie has been compromised. Let's go.

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Speaker 1: That's what we do. We compromise summers, all right, until

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Speaker 1: we meet again. Heat the Call