1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:03,240 Speaker 1: Welcome to episode one seventy of the Bobby Cast. These 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 1: are all hit songs that were accused of plagiarism, and 3 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: I'm here with video. Producer of the Bobby Bones Show, 4 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: also part of the Sore Losers podcast, which you can 5 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: check out just subscribe to The Sore Losers every day. 6 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:17,240 Speaker 1: You guys do a sports are right? We do every day? 7 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: All right? Producer Eddie on the Sore Losers. All right, 8 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:22,639 Speaker 1: do you understand this? I am thanks for finally telling 9 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 1: me what we're gonna do a podcast on. Well, I'd 10 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 1: like to tell you sometimes because I want you to 11 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 1: research that I'm excited about this on this episode talking 12 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 1: about some of the biggest songs that were accused of plagiarisms. 13 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:32,599 Speaker 1: And you also tell me what if you think? Well, 14 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 1: we'll kind of play the game and then Mike Deal 15 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:36,200 Speaker 1: tell us how it ended. So we have a verdict 16 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 1: on all these Yeah, these are they all settled except 17 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 1: for one of them. Okay, okay, this is a question. 18 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 1: Some of the songs. Well, yeah, down the list. We 19 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 1: will start with do you know what this is, Eddie? 20 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 1: Come I do. So this is Beatles, come Together, Come Together, 21 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 1: and so in the song John Lennon sings, here, come 22 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 1: on here, come all flat top. He come grooving up slowly, 23 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: remember that. Okay, he come old flat top right, And 24 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:12,399 Speaker 1: this is Chuck Berry. You can't catch me? Yeah, come 25 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:15,959 Speaker 1: on flat top, he up with me. Then come we 26 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 1: even good bye, and a little lord to duck Juney. 27 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: I'll put my put in my team. Okay, so again 28 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 1: you have flat Beatles. Yeah, come on flat top, it 29 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 1: up with me. Then came we even good bye, and 30 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: a little lord to duck Juney. I'll put my put 31 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 1: in my team up crazy. Yeah. I don't think there 32 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 1: was any secret about the Beatles, like using Chuck Berry 33 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: in this fifties American music as influence. So yeh absolutely 34 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 1: right about that, I'm saying straight up. He quoted that 35 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 1: from that song in Chuck Better recorded the song you 36 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: Can't Catch Me for the movie Rock Rock Rock. Lennon 37 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 1: said he used the song as inspiration while writing Come 38 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 1: Together in nineteen sixty nine for the Abbey Road album 39 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 1: Um Lennon was sued by producer Morris Levy, who owned 40 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:12,080 Speaker 1: the rights to Yeah, come on Flat Top. He argued, 41 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:15,959 Speaker 1: one they're similar in two. Here come out flat top. 42 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 1: That's the freaking same thing, the same line. The lawsuit 43 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 1: said that Lennon simply slowed down Chuck Berry song. Otherwise 44 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 1: it's the same tune that line at least, I don't know. 45 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 1: I definitely hear it for sure, Come on Flat Top. 46 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 1: I definitely hear the melody sped up, or in the 47 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 1: case of the song, I definitely hear it slowed down. Yeah, 48 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 1: come on flat Top. And this one ended how mighty. 49 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 1: So John Lennon ended up settling by recording three songs 50 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 1: and giving the money from that to Levy. No way, 51 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: he recorded three songs for the other guy with the 52 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 1: song is any good? Do we know? It was imagine 53 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 1: like a like a rare bootleg thing, So it wasn't 54 00:02:56,360 --> 00:03:00,120 Speaker 1: any of the big hits. Wow. Lennon and Levy at 55 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 1: lawsuits figures afterward, which somehow resulted in Roots a collection 56 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 1: of rare Lennon bootlegs. I mean, this was definitely a 57 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: case of this guy like, all right, let's go after 58 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 1: John Lennon. He's a beatle, this is Abbey Road, this 59 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 1: is a here. But also they stole the song. It's 60 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:14,239 Speaker 1: not just to go after it like I would have. 61 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 1: I would compare it to modern day, Uh, Jaco in 62 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 1: doing Jack and Diane, but going up to Jack, going 63 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:24,079 Speaker 1: up to John Cougar Mellencamp and asking, I wouldn't hear 64 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 1: that in no way because Jaco went for sure, John Lennon, 65 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 1: John Cougar Mellkett made money from Jake's song. Right he 66 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 1: reached out to I think John Cogart wrote that song. 67 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 1: Whoever wrote the song Jake reached out to right so 68 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 1: so because because there is I don't know you listen 69 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 1: to this and like he wasn't They weren't trying to 70 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 1: hide this. This is a straight rip off. Who says, 71 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 1: here come old flat Top, come on fat people, all right, 72 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 1: here we go next up? Remember this song of course 73 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 1: Bittersweet Symphony by the verb came out in why isn't 74 00:03:57,400 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 1: this under one hit wonders? Right? I believe they had 75 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 1: another hit. It is a one hit wonder for what's yeah? 76 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 1: It is the one hit one um so the guy 77 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 1: who's the singers that. Richard Ashcroft wrote the lyrics, but 78 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 1: the instrumental backing was partially sampled from the symphonic version 79 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 1: of the Rolling Stone song The last time. The band 80 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: had originally licensed five notes in exchange for at the royalties. 81 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: But the Rolling Stones manager Alan Klein clean the verse. 82 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 1: I played the verse void of the agreement by using 83 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:36,040 Speaker 1: a larger selection. Here you go, this is the orchestras, 84 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 1: this is the Rolling Stones version. Get out of here. 85 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 1: I don't really hear the music. Don't hear any of this. 86 00:04:57,080 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 1: That guitar riff, it's a chance to change. I do 87 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 1: hear their guitar riff. Listen to zones, listen that. I'm 88 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: struggling to do it, but I can hear. Wow, that's 89 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 1: the orchestras. What you definitely do here. But so the 90 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:19,919 Speaker 1: Stones use this huh if we're trying that hard to 91 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:23,919 Speaker 1: like hear the same thing, I mean, trash it. There's 92 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 1: no case there. You don't think so, No, Mike hat 93 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:30,159 Speaker 1: this one end. So Keith, Great Stars and Mick Jagger 94 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: ended up getting all the song rights to the verse. 95 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 1: That is crazy. They made all the money, all the money. 96 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:51,600 Speaker 1: Am I missing something? I don't even no way, it 97 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:53,599 Speaker 1: is not even close. It must be something more missing. 98 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:56,840 Speaker 1: Maybe there's like a hidden track under They got all 99 00:05:56,839 --> 00:06:00,040 Speaker 1: that because it's the orchestra version. Who did it? Of 100 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:03,359 Speaker 1: the Rolling Stone song? And then the verb us that 101 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 1: orchestra version, and they used too many notes from that version, 102 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:11,160 Speaker 1: but it's still a rolling Stone song. First this happened, 103 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 1: and this happened. They did a version of the rolling 104 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 1: Stone song, and then they stole the derivative of the 105 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 1: rodet because if you play that that no, there you 106 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: have two you have two string versions, right, but this 107 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:33,159 Speaker 1: is first, this is second. This I definitely hear, and 108 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 1: this is third. So that rooted all back, okay because 109 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 1: those two orchestra don't hear those two, but I believe 110 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 1: that they probably and who composed the second orchestra clip, 111 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:51,039 Speaker 1: they were called the Andrew Older Okay, because that's that 112 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: that is a straight sample ready, that is yes, but 113 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 1: that was only of that song. Okay, here we get interesting. 114 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 1: It's a big one that right there is and this 115 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 1: is queen, yeah, Queen and David Bowie. So this ices 116 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 1: baby and it's um under pressure Queen and David Bowie. 117 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 1: And so I remember when this happened. I was so young. 118 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 1: But a Elize will be like, he's like, I didn't 119 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 1: we didn't take that because he'd be like, there's this 120 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 1: dune dune, dune to the dune dune, and ours just 121 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 1: done done, Dune to Dune. I totally remember that too, Yeah, 122 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 1: because he had like a in there, let's take it, 123 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: and so it was there. There was a lawsuit here. Yeah, 124 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 1: they settled out of court and David Bowie and Queen 125 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 1: got songwriting credits with no life, so they probably got 126 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 1: a large percentage. No money exchanged hands like you owe 127 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 1: me except for the songwriter money. That's obviously maybe one 128 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 1: of the most obvious of all time and probably the 129 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 1: best scenario out of that, like where you as Queen 130 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 1: had a hit with it, and then on top of that, 131 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 1: you gotta hip you gotta hip hop. H you got 132 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: a bunch of mine for one man. Okay, we know 133 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 1: this one because this one is remember this blurred lines 134 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 1: by Robin Thick two Robin Thick and Farrell rode the 135 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 1: dagg and here is gotta give it up Marvin Gay. Yeah, 136 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 1: the family of Marvin Gay filed us to the ledging 137 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 1: that Robin THICKP song infringed on seven song, which is 138 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:47,440 Speaker 1: red here. In addition to Thick, Farrell and t I 139 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 1: were named in the suit, both producers of this I guess, uh, 140 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 1: I don't know what how t I came into this. 141 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 1: I guess I wrapped on wraps on again. Okay, yeah, Mike, 142 00:08:57,840 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 1: what happened on this one? So initially they were gonna 143 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 1: have to pay a seven point three million they got 144 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 1: it down to five point three million, and of the 145 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 1: song's royalties, Wow, where did they come up with that figure? 146 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 1: Seven point three? They look at how much it's already made. 147 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 1: There must be a precedent already set that makes it. 148 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 1: Probably look at consumption, a set precedent based on spins, downloads, 149 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 1: any sort of purchases. I would assume. Do you think 150 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:24,719 Speaker 1: that's uh? Yeah, I mean I've heard this so many 151 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:26,439 Speaker 1: times and I've heard it broken down. Yes, because the 152 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 1: base it's it's not the whole song, but it's definitely 153 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 1: that base group. Yes, And I think that they had 154 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 1: said to I don't know if you heard about this 155 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 1: that I think Robin Thick admitted again, I'm just guessing, 156 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 1: And I think I heard this somewhere that he was 157 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 1: using that as inspiration when he wrote the song. Did 158 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: you ever read that and see that something like that 159 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:47,680 Speaker 1: kind of happened? I felt like he wasn't fighting it 160 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 1: very hard. So when that happens, Okay, yeah, to get 161 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: you guys, all, here's another one Town Fund but Mark 162 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 1: Ron's and featuring Bruno Mars Ship. Now. Lawsuit was filed 163 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 1: because oops, upside you hit, because the different parts of 164 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 1: the song, like when you hear this one, it's not 165 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 1: uptown funk. This is not the parts of stolen. No, 166 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 1: it's the uptown funk. That's it. Town funk. You up 167 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 1: uptown funk. You doing that? You're doing that up town funk. 168 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:29,079 Speaker 1: You up uptown funk. You with this town funk, you 169 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 1: up up town funk. You up. It's right on up 170 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 1: town funk, you up up town funk. You up? Yeah, yeah, 171 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 1: I mean it's right on back to Wow radio station. 172 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 1: Wait you think about this and Mike, what happened? So 173 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 1: all four members of the Gap band and the producer 174 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 1: got songwriting credits, and they each got three point three 175 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 1: point four percent of the song's royalty. I love it. 176 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 1: I love when it's a straight up rip off like that. 177 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 1: It's like it's good you cheer for the dudes from 178 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 1: the sixties that I like, just out of the broke 179 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 1: chilling man hoping for something like this to happen. Okay, 180 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 1: here we go. I don't know about this one. Cold 181 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:28,079 Speaker 1: plays Viva Lavida, Sweet the Street, sigh, Joe Satriani's if 182 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 1: I could fly, it's a guitar player anyway, Melody's gonna 183 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 1: a guitar right. I'm assuming Joe sat you on his 184 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 1: copywright Frenchman against Cold Playing Capitol Records. They had a 185 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 1: deal less than a year later. Um, listen, I absolutely 186 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 1: hear it too, but it's called us. I know how 187 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 1: this one ended, so I'm going to stay out of 188 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 1: it again. I mean from following the pattern or what 189 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 1: patterns that? Do you hear it again? If I were 190 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 1: the judge, I'd be like, look, man, this is it's similar, yes, 191 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 1: but I'm not calling a copyright infringement. It's again just 192 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:27,439 Speaker 1: playing the game here. For sure. That sounds like ro 193 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 1: the world. Those notes for sure sound like Then it 194 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 1: starts to get a little and really it's like how 195 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 1: many notes until Yes, So Mike d had this one end. 196 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 1: So they went they had a case, but it was 197 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 1: dismissed and then they settled out of court. They still settled. Wow, 198 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:54,320 Speaker 1: So that's just satriani in or whoever his people just 199 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:57,119 Speaker 1: keep going at it. Under the terms of the dismissal, 200 00:12:57,400 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 1: Coldplay does not have to admit to any wrongdoing. I wouldn't. 201 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 1: I mean, the reason this really sticks is because of that, 202 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:08,959 Speaker 1: and that's it. And then I kind of fade off 203 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:11,839 Speaker 1: a bit. I definitely would have to. That's not easy. No, 204 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 1: not a fan of that kind of lawsuit. It's just 205 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 1: too But if you were Joe Statution and you you 206 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:23,679 Speaker 1: wrote this and then you hear be like, oh my god, 207 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 1: it's my melody, I guess I'll give it a shot. 208 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 1: What they're doing, that's my melody, right, they have me 209 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 1: melody the streets. So I got some money, but Coldplay 210 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:35,319 Speaker 1: doesn't have to be any wrong. How much money was that, Mike? 211 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 1: They don't say. They don't say on this part of 212 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 1: the deal. Gonna take a break and talk about this 213 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 1: for a second graduation season just around the corner. Turned 214 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 1: to job Genius for free advice on job searching, resume writing, interviewing, 215 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 1: and tips ace your first day on the job. Visit 216 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 1: express pros dot com slash job genius do that today 217 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:59,320 Speaker 1: or search job Genius on YouTube. Let this educational video 218 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:02,319 Speaker 1: series but you're guide to entering the workforce. 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I recommend everybody 228 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 1: I know when you apply for a job, you to 229 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 1: call back a chance to interview. Don't do it alone. 230 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 1: Job seekers never pay a fee at Express and Express 231 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 1: us thousands of open positions Express pros dot com or 232 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 1: on the Express Jobs app. Have a few more here 233 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 1: to seventy dan and chase them. No, he got sued 234 00:14:56,000 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 1: by Marvin gay La to get it up. That's good. 235 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 1: I don't know. Man TMZ reported was facing a one 236 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 1: million dollar lawsuit a leggie. He copied Marvin Gaye. Let's 237 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 1: get it on. That's so much money even the edge 238 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 1: sheer and that is a ton of money. And what 239 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 1: did judge find here? So this one's still pending. They 240 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 1: re gets here and try to get out of it 241 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 1: in to get the court to dismiss it, and it's 242 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 1: still up in the air. You said, there's still similarities 243 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 1: between the two. The vocal melody is not the same. 244 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 1: But that's not the question here. It's just the So 245 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 1: it's the musical. Just let's try just try to listen 246 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 1: to music. Baby, man, that's no, that's good. I can't. 247 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 1: I can't sue for that. Like to me, I mean, 248 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 1: let's break down every song that has the same court progression, 249 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 1: same beat. I mean, we'd be here for thing, you 250 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 1: know another we should pull up. Um as I go 251 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 1: through these, is that Tom Petty Sam Smith because that 252 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 1: was a recent one. Yes, it's on here. Remember we're 253 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 1: in the car once and I was like, it was 254 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 1: when stands we the first started and we were even 255 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 1: trying to think what does this sound like? I was like, 256 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 1: I don't think it's separre on my wal mic. Yeah, 257 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 1: we're listening to the van I think, And you're like 258 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 1: I was in the back, you're in the front. You're like, 259 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 1: listen to this, what does this sound like to you? 260 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 1: And we're like, sounds like something, what is it different? 261 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 1: This is not the song. That's a different song. So um, 262 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 1: Sam Smith, won't you stay? So won't you stay with me? 263 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 1: Is it? When back down? Because Smith was singing stay 264 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 1: with me, and I'm going that's not the words other 265 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 1: times I've heard this song, but again, melody in the vocal, 266 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:09,680 Speaker 1: melody in that one, like yes, sing the Tom Petty 267 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:21,160 Speaker 1: to this me to me, that's not here, it's right here, Noah, 268 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 1: back that to me? Where you? Was this a lawsuit 269 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 1: to d Yeah? And I felt so proud of myself. 270 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 1: I heard it so early, like I said, the first time, 271 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 1: the song that was organic. I was like, this, this 272 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 1: is not him. It's the car. You told me you 273 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 1: shouldn't be singing it like I sued him and got 274 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 1: no money for me. I sued him for just Tom. 275 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 1: We were like somewhere in California, this song is a car, Hey, 276 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:51,640 Speaker 1: your honor. I like to sue for Tom Petty. He's 277 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 1: not hearing. He does nothing about this. It's not fair. 278 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:56,200 Speaker 1: Rest in peace out of court. But Tom Petty is 279 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 1: now a songwriter on that Oh yeah, so it's a songwriter. 280 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:10,160 Speaker 1: I mean, bag, come on, m hm. So Tom Petty 281 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 1: and Jeff Lynn who wrote won't beig down our songwriters 282 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 1: now and stay with me? So I'm fact Jeff Lynn 283 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 1: is always the fourth guy that we're always like, who's 284 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:26,440 Speaker 1: in the Traveling Wilbury's It's Tom Petty Petty Dylan, Bob Dylan. 285 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:32,160 Speaker 1: And who's George Harrison? No, no, he is, isn't hege 286 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 1: har Uh? Jeff Tweedy? Uh yeah, the dude the sunglasses 287 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:43,639 Speaker 1: in the beard. I can't believe we forgot George Harrison. 288 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 1: I know that's the most famous one. Uh yeah, there 289 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 1: you go. I like that. What do you There's more? Yeah, 290 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 1: I got like one or two more. Are you gonna say? 291 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 1: What do you think about all this? Like? It's hard? Um, 292 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:04,439 Speaker 1: I'm very happy these laws exist. I I hope that 293 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 1: the people that are making the decisions on these laws 294 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 1: are well versed and either surrounded themselves with people that 295 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 1: that can help them. Just it's tough. It's tough. You're 296 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 1: you're dictating art. That's the hard part. But because there's 297 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:24,679 Speaker 1: financial ramifications, you have to have somebody do this. So 298 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:28,359 Speaker 1: I'm glad. It's just hard. Like chord progression, like if 299 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 1: you you have a guitar, this son, like we can 300 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:33,359 Speaker 1: we can give you an example here just kind of 301 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 1: playing this is something Eddie and I do Oh my god, 302 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 1: we do this for fun. We do this because we're 303 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 1: such nerds, like do Luke Hombs, like do that whole 304 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:52,159 Speaker 1: thing where you know what song would that mean? So 305 00:19:54,560 --> 00:20:00,879 Speaker 1: she broke my heart's start. She out the best of me, 306 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 1: she broke what's it up? And ching hit a different one. 307 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 1: There you go. Well she're all with her hair in 308 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 1: the messing. I might be with that warning keep going, 309 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:23,639 Speaker 1: I'll do one that's not the coms ready, talladega. I 310 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 1: mean it was a song for there's just there's so 311 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 1: much similarity. I mean, you're talking about moving a finger 312 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 1: and you're talking about there's so many of arts. I 313 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:36,200 Speaker 1: wish I had a guitar. There's so many like the 314 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 1: dumb songs that we write. That's I mean, I use 315 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 1: like six chords. Well, there are only so many chord progressions. 316 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:46,359 Speaker 1: And Tom Petty is the king of using very like 317 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 1: play free Falling, it's it's it's three chords and it's 318 00:20:52,359 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 1: a D. It's D, G and D. That's it. And 319 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 1: I played those courses a different different tempo. I went 320 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:11,479 Speaker 1: yesterday to see my mom and story yesterday. I mean, 321 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 1: we just took free Falling and turned it into it's difficult, 322 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 1: and it's a judge having to take a decision. And 323 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:20,360 Speaker 1: that's why I feel like on some of these where 324 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:22,639 Speaker 1: they're like, oh, that's the same court progression like edge shearing, 325 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 1: and think it's got to be more than corporate, which 326 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:27,880 Speaker 1: is still depending is just like melody is a big 327 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 1: melody or musical melody, the joke's actually anyone, which is like, 328 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 1: you know, I used to ruin and it's so tricky, 329 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:41,200 Speaker 1: and I guess we just want everyone to be honest, 330 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 1: like these songwriters, like you're creating a song, try your best, 331 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 1: and you think that everyone's just being honest and it's 332 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 1: an accident. I don't know. Um And most time listen 333 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 1: and I've had friends that have been involved in these 334 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:53,920 Speaker 1: lawsuits and they're like, I swear to god, I must 335 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 1: have been listening right. But but again, to be totally transparent. 336 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 1: As someone who writes jokes, sometimes I have probably heard 337 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 1: people tell a joke but that's super funny. It's sat 338 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:07,879 Speaker 1: of my subconscious A similar circumstance happened around me that 339 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 1: joke was about. Yeah, I was like, oh, I have 340 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 1: an idea. You steal my jokes all the time. Shot 341 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 1: up and one day you will see me in court. Buddy. 342 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:27,719 Speaker 1: Can you imagine the side, dude? Yeah, it's tough. Um 343 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 1: what else it got? Oh? Yes, this is a good one. 344 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:34,439 Speaker 1: Johnny Cash Falsome Prinson Blues. When I played this one 345 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:35,919 Speaker 1: from my eleven year old the other day and he 346 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:39,640 Speaker 1: was even like whoa. After this was released, this guy 347 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:42,399 Speaker 1: named Gordon Jenkins, I was like, wait, that sounds like 348 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:45,440 Speaker 1: my song, and he wrote he wrote for another artist, 349 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 1: Beverly Mayor mar Johnny Cashaidy wrote the song after seeing 350 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:51,399 Speaker 1: the movie Inside the Walls of Falsome Prison while he 351 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 1: was in the Air Force. He took the melody and 352 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:56,159 Speaker 1: many lyrics from a song called Crescent City Blues. He 353 00:22:56,160 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 1: didn't change the crap, although he didn't City, but I mean, 354 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 1: just take the blues out of it and maybe it'll 355 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:06,119 Speaker 1: help you out Here you go here the train its 356 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 1: the same freaking first line around the bin and I 357 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 1: ain't been kissed loads like three words. I never heard 358 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 1: that other. Have you heard my other song? Mr? Cash? 359 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 1: Mr Cash? Ring of Fire was also not your song 360 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 1: because that song was June Carter Cash's sister right yes. 361 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:36,160 Speaker 1: After the live version of this song in Jinkin suit 362 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 1: cash and they set up for sent about thousand dollars, 363 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,920 Speaker 1: which is different money at that time, a lot more money. Um, 364 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:44,360 Speaker 1: and that one's deserved bonus, Like those are the tin 365 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 1: but here's a bonus. Yeah, this one never went to court, 366 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 1: it was never settled. But it's just one that I thought. 367 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 1: It gets called out a lot green day, I said, 368 00:23:55,280 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 1: a song called warning. Yuh, I don't know what you're 369 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 1: gonna confer this to the Kinks. This is called picture book. Okay, Yeah, 370 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,199 Speaker 1: now here's the here's the thing that's it's kind of 371 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:43,120 Speaker 1: itchy about this. That's a scale. It's it's a it's 372 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 1: a regular scale. It's like when you play guitar, you 373 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 1: can play a scale, pentatonic scale or something. I don't 374 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 1: know what, let's just call it. Um. All sounds are 375 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:53,879 Speaker 1: in a box, and that's one box that you can 376 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 1: play that kind of runs you all the way up 377 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,439 Speaker 1: and down the box. So is that why they just 378 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:00,479 Speaker 1: kind of got away with it? Is you rip off 379 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:02,440 Speaker 1: a scale? Isn't that the questions? He tried to sue them, 380 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:04,440 Speaker 1: and they were like, we didn't steal that from you, 381 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 1: Like I learned that great. It's almost like a public 382 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 1: domain in my mind, a public domain type situation. I've 383 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:14,479 Speaker 1: been around forever. You can't you can't still roll road 384 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 1: road your boat because it's public domain. Yeah, Like that's 385 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:19,920 Speaker 1: got It's like I don't own it, but you don't 386 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 1: own it, so good luck. Like if I were to 387 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:26,159 Speaker 1: record uh Mary had a littlelamb, Mary had a little 388 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:29,399 Speaker 1: lamb little, but you'd also recorded me a little lamb. Okay, 389 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 1: assuming you didn't own it then either. Even if you 390 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 1: think you wrote it, it it existed far before. So yeah, 391 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 1: that's fine. Interesting huh And that's a kid. But I mean, 392 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:45,440 Speaker 1: at the same time, come on, guys, you all wrote 393 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 1: a song with a scale that was fun. Man. Yeah? 394 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 1: Am I doing a spot already? Do it? All right? 395 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't remember that I did earlier. I 396 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:01,879 Speaker 1: thought I know about another one. Or Eddie, thank you 397 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 1: very much talking music with you. Check out Eddie on 398 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:07,399 Speaker 1: the Sore Losers podcast. It's sports show. They do like 399 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,200 Speaker 1: four or five times a week. Uh that we try 400 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:11,439 Speaker 1: to do one every single day. Yeah, so if you're 401 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 1: into sports, check out The Sore Losers where they claim 402 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 1: to be experts and everything but we're not. But you 403 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 1: know who knows? Uh there you go. Thank you for 404 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 1: hanging out with us. That's a good one. And uh, 405 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:23,679 Speaker 1: check out one of the past episodes. Oh, by the way, 406 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:26,439 Speaker 1: Caroline Hobby will be up listen. When you hear this, 407 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 1: you may already be up. Check out Caroline hobbies new 408 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 1: podcast called Get Real with Caroline Hobby where she talked 409 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 1: to a lot of the wives of country stars. It 410 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 1: really is so because you know the country stars and 411 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,919 Speaker 1: you just wonder, like, who who's the wife, how did 412 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:41,919 Speaker 1: they meet? Like how does she help him do what 413 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 1: he does or she or whatever? Like checking out Caroline 414 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,119 Speaker 1: Brian Luke, Bryan's wife and she just doing up with 415 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 1: Jane Kramer, And so it's good. It's called Get Real 416 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 1: with Caroline Hobby. Check it out. We'll see you next time. Thanks. 417 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 1: Listen to Bobby. Guys, everybody