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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, your home for

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Speaker 1: deer hunting news, stories and strategies, and now your host,

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Speaker 1: Mark Kenyon. Welcome to the Wired to Hunt Podcast. I'm

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Speaker 1: your host, Mark Kenyan. In this episode number one hundred

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Speaker 1: and thirty four, Tay the show. With the new year

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Speaker 1: just days away, we're looking back at what we learned

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Speaker 1: in two thousand and sixteen and looking forward to what

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Speaker 1: we hope to accomplish and experience in the White Tail

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Speaker 1: Woods in two thousand seventeen. All right, guys, welcome to

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Speaker 1: the Wired to Hunt Podcast, brought to you by Sitka

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Speaker 1: gear Antona show. As I imagine many of you might

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Speaker 1: be doing at this time of year, we are looking

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Speaker 1: back at two thousand and sixteen and looking forward to

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Speaker 1: two thousand seventeen. Today, Dan and I are gonna be

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Speaker 1: discussing some of the highs and lows of this past year,

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Speaker 1: along with some of our greate lessons learned, and then

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Speaker 1: we're also going to do some thinking about the year

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Speaker 1: to come. You know, what we hope we can change,

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Speaker 1: what we can achieve, what we hope to experience, and

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Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff. So that quite simply, Dan,

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Speaker 1: is the plan does that sound good to you? Sounds

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Speaker 1: good to me, buddy, Well good, I'm good. I'm way

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Speaker 1: better now. Is that my my Christmas was spent in

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Speaker 1: a bed or hovering over a toilet or on a couch.

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Speaker 1: My entire family was sick over Christmas. I heard about that.

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Speaker 1: That's a bummer. Yeah. So so you're recovered though, right?

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Speaker 1: I feel great. I feel good now. Maybe just a

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Speaker 1: little tired. One more night asleep is gonna get me

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Speaker 1: back to normal. But man, I haven't puked that hard

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Speaker 1: since like college. And this was like a fluor. It

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Speaker 1: wasn't like too much egg now right, No, this was

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Speaker 1: straight up flew. It was, oh, man, like it felt

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Speaker 1: like I did a thousand sit ups, which, now that

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Speaker 1: I say that doesn't sound like a lot of sit ups,

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Speaker 1: But my could you do a thousand sit ups straight

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Speaker 1: without stop? Now? Yeah? Oh? Probably not not right now.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I could either, But thousands a

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Speaker 1: lot of sit ups, I know. But in my prime,

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Speaker 1: you know, in my prime, I could probably do a thousands.

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Speaker 1: I could throw a football over them their mountains. Speaking

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Speaker 1: of damn his prime. Do you know, do you ever

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Speaker 1: watched any of those old Christmas movies? You know, like

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Speaker 1: the kind of like old puppet types. Yes, yeah, well

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Speaker 1: do you remember there's one of them? I can you

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Speaker 1: gon Cornelia's for anybody who knows that this guy looks

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Speaker 1: like everybody. Everybody knows what it looks like. And this

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Speaker 1: is probably the fifteen person this year who's brought that

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Speaker 1: red beard. Oh it is so it is you in

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Speaker 1: a puppet or whatever it is. If you were plunked

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Speaker 1: down into a TV, that is you, Kylie. My wife

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Speaker 1: actually told me, like last year, she knows that. She's like,

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Speaker 1: oh my gosh, that is Dan. And then someone mentioned

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Speaker 1: on Twitter and I just cracked up. I definitely look

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Speaker 1: like that right now. I look rough, like I haven't.

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Speaker 1: I haven't cut my beard in a long time. It's

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Speaker 1: kind of growing out, it's laying down on itself. So it's, uh,

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Speaker 1: it's it's really hardy right now. And uh, I haven't

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Speaker 1: cut my hair in a while. So you know, you

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Speaker 1: wife looks at me and instead of like saying, oh,

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Speaker 1: So I know, I know now that it's time to

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Speaker 1: get a haircut. Well, hey, you did say you didn't

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Speaker 1: want any more than two kids, right, that's right, that's

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Speaker 1: a that's a good So keep the beard and hair

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Speaker 1: I uh, I don't have those kinds of beard issues, Dan.

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Speaker 1: But hey, hey Mark Mark Kenyon, a k Rookie of

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Speaker 1: the Year, what how is your how is your gotee

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Speaker 1: dissuade me of having any facial hair. Okay, And so

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Speaker 1: Now this year, I'm starting to see white hairs start

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Speaker 1: some little white hairs coming in. That's peach buzz well yeah,

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Speaker 1: well possibly, but hey, I killed the deer last night.

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Speaker 1: Heck yeah, that's awesome. Yeah, it was getting stayed up.

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Speaker 1: a good place for us to take a quick break

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Speaker 1: to thank our partners at Sick of Gear. And we

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Speaker 1: got a sick of story today from a Wire to

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Speaker 1: Hunt listener and a fellow Sick of white Tail ambassador,

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Speaker 1: Brennan Nating. And Brennan has just recently had the week

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Speaker 1: of all weeks last week Monday, he killed the buck

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Speaker 1: he called turkey Foot, who he had been watching and

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Speaker 1: he had been after for two years that he called Ronnie.

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Speaker 1: do you? How do you process that? It? It took

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Speaker 1: and uh, it was unreal. And we've spent the entire

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Speaker 1: to an incredible hunting season, and I hope that's something

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Speaker 1: that a lot of you can relate to it this

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Speaker 1: time of year. That said, this was a sick story,

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Speaker 1: and you can learn more about the gear like what

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Speaker 1: Brennan was wearing during these hunts by visiting Sitka gear

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Speaker 1: dough kill. Oh man, it's a long night. It's a

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Speaker 1: And that first night nothing came within range. And I've

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Speaker 1: properties is our trees, and that's where these deer have

426
00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:58,200
Speaker 1: been betting. I found sheds there over the years. Nothing giant,

427
00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:01,520
Speaker 1: but um, it's just I'm gonna get as high as

428
00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:05,639
Speaker 1: I can in a good observation point and see what's up.

429
00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:08,159
Speaker 1: So I was I was just gonna ask, are you

430
00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:09,880
Speaker 1: gonna try to push right into the good stuff where

431
00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:12,520
Speaker 1: you gonna observe that first night and then try to

432
00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:14,840
Speaker 1: see something in an attack, because that sounds like that's

433
00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:17,480
Speaker 1: the plan, right, I'm gonna be I'm gonna be aggressive,

434
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:20,160
Speaker 1: But I think what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna

435
00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:25,199
Speaker 1: walk the fence. I'm gonna walk this fence line up

436
00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:28,919
Speaker 1: to where I find a decent crossing coming out of

437
00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:32,639
Speaker 1: this real thicket to this small little thicket to the

438
00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:36,480
Speaker 1: egg fields where they could potentially be betting, and I'm

439
00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:40,880
Speaker 1: gonna get as high as I can and not necessarily

440
00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 1: try to conceal myself, but just get as high so

441
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,760
Speaker 1: I can see um as much land as possible. But

442
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,200
Speaker 1: put myself in a position where if something does come through,

443
00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:51,119
Speaker 1: I'll be able to take a shot at it, you know,

444
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:55,360
Speaker 1: something some well used path and then uh and then

445
00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:57,119
Speaker 1: if I see something, I have one day to make

446
00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:01,080
Speaker 1: an adjustment and then it's it's gonna be you know,

447
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:04,679
Speaker 1: go bigger, go home. Yeah. Well, hey, it's fun that

448
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:07,040
Speaker 1: there's at least a shot of something happened, right, And

449
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:09,840
Speaker 1: I also have two deer tags down there too, dough

450
00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:12,760
Speaker 1: tags yet to fill, So I'm not gonna be I'm

451
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,480
Speaker 1: not gonna be picky as far as I'm not gonna

452
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:17,840
Speaker 1: be holding out for a mature buck because I'm gonna

453
00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:20,479
Speaker 1: I want to fill my dough tags too. Cool man, Well,

454
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,480
Speaker 1: I'm excited to hear how that goes. Hopefully, either you

455
00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:25,600
Speaker 1: shoot something or you learn something, and like you said,

456
00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:29,000
Speaker 1: apply it to next year and uh, for next year

457
00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:30,440
Speaker 1: is going to be here in just a couple of days.

458
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:36,480
Speaker 1: Can you believe that? I know I'm already thinking, and

459
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:37,719
Speaker 1: I know you are to me. I know a lot

460
00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:40,760
Speaker 1: of guys are. Yeah, yeah for sure, But I I

461
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:43,680
Speaker 1: guess what that said should we should we first look

462
00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:45,800
Speaker 1: back on this year. That's just wrapping up for both

463
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:47,160
Speaker 1: of us. I know you've got a little bit more

464
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,600
Speaker 1: season left than I do. But in short, you know,

465
00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:51,840
Speaker 1: in general, most of the most of our seasons are

466
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:56,240
Speaker 1: either done or are getting done. Um. So, I don't

467
00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:58,280
Speaker 1: know about you, but I've definitely been doing some thinking.

468
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,199
Speaker 1: One w how would you describe your two thousand sixteen

469
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:09,360
Speaker 1: season one word or one sentence? One sentence? I don't know. Well,

470
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:12,480
Speaker 1: I think about that. I want to. I'm gonna pass

471
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:14,480
Speaker 1: it right back to you. Okay, one term or word

472
00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 1: or sentence to describe your season. Um, I was I

473
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 1: was hoping i'd have more time to think about this

474
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:27,800
Speaker 1: because because I got it, mine, mine will be satisfying. Satisfying, right,

475
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:32,320
Speaker 1: I like it? You know. For me, I killed a

476
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:34,400
Speaker 1: buck this year, and I was very happy to do it.

477
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:40,040
Speaker 1: But I wasn't But I wasn't like blown away as

478
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:42,480
Speaker 1: this is one of the greatest seasons I've ever had.

479
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:47,159
Speaker 1: You know, I didn't hunt as much because I I

480
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 1: tagged out. So I felt, I'm gonna save my vacation

481
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:53,919
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna go home. Um, just I was satisfied.

482
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,800
Speaker 1: I was happy with the results. It wasn't like the

483
00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,240
Speaker 1: greatest season I've ever had. It wasn't the worst season

484
00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:01,679
Speaker 1: I've ever had. It was right in the middle. I'm

485
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 1: I'm so happy to have hunted it, but I'm really

486
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 1: looking you know, I'm really looking forward to the you know,

487
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 1: the Shed season and and uh, two thousand seventeen. Nice. Nice, Okay,

488
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:20,400
Speaker 1: I got mine good. I opening, I opening, And that's hype.

489
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 1: That's hyphenated. So one word that's the writer in me

490
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:29,160
Speaker 1: that has to that's the clarify UM. And I say

491
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:30,920
Speaker 1: that because I think that there were a lot of

492
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:34,920
Speaker 1: things for me this season that we're like, maybe maybe

493
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 1: enlightening is the better word, UM, but one of the

494
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:41,480
Speaker 1: two UM that kind of like just brought to light

495
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:43,960
Speaker 1: something new, Like I feel like I learned a lot

496
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 1: of things, Like I made a shift this year as

497
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 1: a hunter, UM evolved in a bunch of different ways,

498
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 1: UM that I think we could talk about here that

499
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 1: we've talked about a little in the past, but in

500
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 1: a number of different things I've kind of changed. UM.

501
00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:00,199
Speaker 1: So I think this season kind of signify I had

502
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 1: that move for me, which was interesting, and I learned

503
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:05,880
Speaker 1: a lot from it, And UM I can look back

504
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 1: on a lot of things from the season, like totally

505
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 1: different things and see, like, wow, that was like a

506
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,119
Speaker 1: really cool new thing I tried, and like that really

507
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:15,680
Speaker 1: changed me. And this was something that was a big

508
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:20,400
Speaker 1: challenge and I learned something from it and and that changed. Um.

509
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 1: And so that definitely was like a different kind of

510
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 1: season for me. It wasn't one that like followed the

511
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:27,359
Speaker 1: script and I killed a bunch of big bucks and

512
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 1: it was like you'd be. It was one that was

513
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,920
Speaker 1: like punctuated by these different highs and lows, but lots

514
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,199
Speaker 1: of new stuff that, um, that was really cool. So

515
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 1: it was a great hunting season. Um. But but just

516
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:42,440
Speaker 1: like you, it just kind of leaves me wanting more,

517
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 1: Like I'm ready for the next year to just start

518
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 1: right now. So what what was a couple of you know,

519
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 1: what were a couple of your highlights for two thousand

520
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:55,959
Speaker 1: and sixteen. So I think i'd say probably the highlights

521
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 1: of my season, We're three things. Number one for sure

522
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 1: was my to Montana. That was like one of my

523
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 1: favorite hunting trips ever, maybe my favorite hunting trip ever, um,

524
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:09,880
Speaker 1: for a lot of different reasons. Um, I mean, just

525
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 1: like being out there in that type of place was

526
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 1: just like it's just it's unlike anywhere else ever deer hunted.

527
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 1: Just being out in this huge, wide open, beautiful UM

528
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 1: landscape with so few people UM and hunting public land,

529
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:25,680
Speaker 1: and like, it wasn't the kind of thing where you know,

530
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 1: I was hunting and then going hanging out at home

531
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 1: or hanging out a hotel. You know. It was like

532
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:32,680
Speaker 1: a total experience from all day, every day for seven

533
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 1: days or whatever was that I I was out there. I

534
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 1: was either hunting or planning about hunting, or sleeping in

535
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 1: my truck or cooking food on a little backpacking stove

536
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 1: on the tailgate. It was just an awesome experience all

537
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 1: the way around. UM. So that was just a huge

538
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 1: highlight for sure. UM. I think another highlight was just

539
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 1: this hunt for holy Field. UM. Excuse me, just getting

540
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 1: to see this buck as much. UM. Like, this was

541
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 1: one of those things that definitely stands out and I

542
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 1: don't want to, um, you know, belabor the point too much,

543
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 1: but getting to learn and observe a deer the way

544
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 1: I did, and hunt for a deer the way I

545
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 1: did for holy Field, UM, this year was definitely unique

546
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 1: in above and beyond anything I've ever experienced before. So UM,

547
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 1: that has been a highlight, just getting to see that

548
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 1: deer so many times and everything else that went through it. UM.

549
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 1: And then another highlight was getting to be there when

550
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,960
Speaker 1: my dad killed a buck this year, UM during gun

551
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 1: season of Michigan. That was really cool to get to

552
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 1: share that with him. UM. And and that was super exciting.

553
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 1: So I say those are my three highlights. UM. You know,

554
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 1: I also killed the doll last night, which was great.

555
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 1: I killed a buck in Ohio, which was great. UM.

556
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 1: Lots lots of great moments, but I think those three

557
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 1: UM stand out above everything else, at least at first glance.

558
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 1: What about you, oh man, Um, Well, the first thing

559
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 1: that comes to mind is the actual kill I had

560
00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 1: this year. It felt good to get you know. I

561
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 1: I've always been kind of picking what I kill. I'm

562
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 1: not gonna settle as far as bucks are concerned. I'm

563
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 1: not settling for anything really than what I kind of

564
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 1: put my mind out to. So I've eaten tag soup

565
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 1: quite a few a few times over the last ten years,

566
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 1: so it felt good to actually seal the deal, put

567
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 1: the period at the end of the sense, you know,

568
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 1: the cherry on top and um, come through with a kill,

569
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 1: and and and and do it kind of the way

570
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 1: I always have tried to do it, and that recon

571
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 1: with trail cameras, check the trail cameras, make sure that

572
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 1: the deer in there, and then use what I've learned

573
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 1: over the years as a bow hunter to put together

574
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 1: a game plan to move in in this area and

575
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 1: hunt it without you know, go into this box living

576
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 1: space basically and kill him without him noticing me or

577
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 1: busting me. So, um, I got to do that. And uh,

578
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 1: you know that that strategy that we have that we

579
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 1: all try to to to put together to you know,

580
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 1: to accomplish our goals worked for me. So that was

581
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 1: That's kind of like the second thing. But you know,

582
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 1: all of everything, everything come coming together finally and working.

583
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 1: That was that just that made me happy. That chess game,

584
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 1: you know, winning that chess game on a mature buck

585
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 1: definitely made me happy. And like I said, the kill

586
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 1: was just uh, the kill was just extra. Yeah, it's

587
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 1: the whole chess match is awesome, but you gotta win

588
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 1: every once in a while too exactly to feel to

589
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 1: feel okay about the fact that you're making progress on it, right, right,

590
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 1: so other than that, I think two thousand and sixteen

591
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 1: was one of those seasons. And I'm sure a lot

592
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 1: of guys go through that once you've been hunting, like

593
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 1: and just to reiterate, man, it wasn't my best season.

594
00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 1: Most memorable. I mean it will be because I'm gonna

595
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 1: have the mount on my wall to always say, hey, look, man,

596
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 1: I shot this deer I didn't see. I didn't get

597
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 1: the opportunity to hunt the rut where I'm seeing, you know,

598
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 1: tons of deer chasing and all that stuff. It was

599
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 1: for me, it was in and out type of season.

600
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 1: And uh so, I'm I'm just blessed that I got

601
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,959
Speaker 1: to do that. I'm I'm blessed that I got to

602
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 1: spend some additional time with my family that time of

603
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 1: year and do some you know, different things outside while

604
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 1: the weather was good. And um, you know, blessed that

605
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:34,479
Speaker 1: my wife puts up with my crap and allows me

606
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 1: to do what I what I love to do. And

607
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 1: uh yeah, man, just happy that happy that I have

608
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 1: mature deer to hunt. Yeah, for sure. Do you is

609
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 1: there anything you wish you'd done differently? Well, looking back

610
00:32:54,560 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 1: looking back on it, maybe, but not being the person

611
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 1: who regrets things. I've only had a very small handful

612
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 1: of regrets in my life. Um, but you know, there's

613
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 1: there's the small little voice inside of me that wishes

614
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 1: I would have maybe pass this buck and allowed myself

615
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 1: more time in the timber during the But I think

616
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 1: that's the guy who likes to sit in the tree stand, right,

617
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 1: that's his voice, the guy who is a nature lover,

618
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 1: who just likes to be outside and who loves that grind. Right.

619
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 1: But then there's the killer part of me who was like, hey, man,

620
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 1: you gotta shoot this buck. It's your goal. You said,

621
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 1: you said, four year old or older, you gotta shoot

622
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 1: this buck. And that's that's what I did. And I

623
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 1: was happy with that. Do I wish I could have

624
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 1: hunted more? Yes? But there there might be talk to

625
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 1: me about what I'm talking about now when we start

626
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 1: talking about two thousand and seventeen, because I got there's

627
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:01,480
Speaker 1: there's a transition there. But I don't want to go

628
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 1: there yet. So let me let me make sure I

629
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 1: get this right. You asked me to talk to you

630
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 1: about what you're talking about when we start talking about right,

631
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:18,360
Speaker 1: nailed it. There we go right now, people are slowly, uh,

632
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 1: clicking the X button on their computers and going, God,

633
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 1: this podcast? Do I need to know? Math? I think

634
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 1: that happened way earlier than that. No, but like, um,

635
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,800
Speaker 1: just being able to extend my hunting season, so to speak.

636
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 1: What about tactic wise? Now, not necessarily did you do anything?

637
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:40,839
Speaker 1: Would you do anything differently? But did anything you see

638
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,239
Speaker 1: this year or that you tried and maybe it worked

639
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 1: or didn't work? Um, did you learn anything? I stayed out, man,

640
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,320
Speaker 1: This year was one of the very first years where

641
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 1: if I wanted to hunt, I had I had locations

642
00:34:56,560 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 1: where I didn't touch until it was time. Like some

643
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 1: of my best stands, I didn't even hunt at all

644
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:06,840
Speaker 1: this year because I wasn't going to go in until

645
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 1: the time was right. And um uh, so I didn't

646
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 1: hunt those areas at all. And I and I you know,

647
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:21,840
Speaker 1: did that outside in, you know, set up the observation stands,

648
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 1: move in. Um I did that. I did that two times,

649
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 1: and I killed my buck this year. So I set

650
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:31,439
Speaker 1: up my observation stand adjusted once and killed the buck.

651
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 1: So that's that's what I that that was this year.

652
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:38,959
Speaker 1: But I mean, I if I wanted to go hunt

653
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 1: a dough, I went to a different, completely different location. Yeah,

654
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 1: so I stayed out of what I considered my my

655
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 1: hot spots for the for the rut. Yeah, I think. Uh.

656
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 1: I mean that's the kind of stuff that we talked

657
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 1: about all the time. So it's cool they see that

658
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 1: you were able to put that into play and it

659
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 1: paid off. Yep. And you know there's a chance that

660
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 1: next year I hunt I hunt less, even less than

661
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 1: um because it just I'm finding And you know, some

662
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 1: of these guys who talk about, man, I don't even

663
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 1: hit the woods until the fifth of November. That to

664
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 1: me sounds absolutely crazy, but they're right there. I feel

665
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 1: they are so right. Yeah, I mean hunting smart over

666
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:28,720
Speaker 1: hunting hard, although the perfect scenario is to do both,

667
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 1: to have enough places that you can hunt hard, you

668
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 1: can hunt other places where you won't impact the spots

669
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 1: you want to hold off on. Um. That's that's what

670
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 1: for me. One of my big things that I continue

671
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:43,840
Speaker 1: to learn and continue to be reminded of is the

672
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 1: importance of just having more and more places because you know, options, options. Yeah,

673
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 1: because just like you said, I put such a huge

674
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 1: premium on keeping my best spots untouched until the right time.

675
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 1: You know, timing. I mean we talked about almost every episode,

676
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 1: every guest we talked about in some different way. They

677
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 1: are focusing on keeping pressure low until the time is right.

678
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 1: I mean that right there is like the biggest thing

679
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 1: when it comes to hunting mature box. I think like

680
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 1: if you get that into your head and all these

681
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 1: you know, there's obviously lots of other things that fall

682
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:14,320
Speaker 1: underneath it. But if you can figure out how to

683
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 1: keep pressure low until the right time, and then even

684
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:19,759
Speaker 1: have pressure low while you're actually they're hunting on those

685
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 1: right times, that that's a huge game changer. And I

686
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 1: think you can take that one of two ways. You

687
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 1: could take it, as you just said, where you just

688
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 1: don't hunt very much, which is okay if you're okay

689
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 1: with you having a few hunts but being successful on

690
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,319
Speaker 1: the few hunts. But then if you're somebody who wants

691
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 1: to just still be able to go out and hunt, Um,

692
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 1: you want to have places you can go on those

693
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 1: subpar days. And you know, I found even on you know,

694
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 1: this year, I picked up permission on a new place

695
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 1: and I went and hunted there on the weekends and

696
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:52,399
Speaker 1: the days when I didn't want to hunt. My best

697
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 1: spots because the conditions weren't right. It was warm weather,

698
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 1: the wind wasn't gonna be good or whatever. All these

699
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 1: different things didn't line up. So I was like, I'll

700
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 1: go there and I'll still get to hunt and lo

701
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 1: and behold, even though the conditions weren't great, I was

702
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 1: hunting some of these spots for the first time ever,

703
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 1: and I had I had, let me think about this,

704
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 1: I had encounters with shooters three times in a row

705
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:19,240
Speaker 1: on subpar days that I wouldn't hunt my best spots

706
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 1: because I didn't think the conditions were were't great. But

707
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm gonna try somewhere brand new, and

708
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 1: I snuck into some spots and just kind of observation

709
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 1: sits in this new property, and you know, sometimes you

710
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 1: do get lucky. And that was one of the situations

711
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 1: where you're not gonna get lucky if you're not out there.

712
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 1: So I'd like to I play a really smart, conservative

713
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 1: and strategic on my best spots, but then I have

714
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 1: the opportunity to get lucky on the subpar days in

715
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:48,839
Speaker 1: my you know spots c D E f UM. If

716
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 1: you don't have those spots, you're not gonna kill anything

717
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:54,280
Speaker 1: on the couch on those subpar days. Now, let's elaborate

718
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 1: on that a little bit, if you don't mind. What

719
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 1: you did there and kind of what I did there

720
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:03,879
Speaker 1: as well, was you were aggressive on other areas. Right,

721
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 1: So what you've done is you've moved into some of

722
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 1: these better you know, some of these better locations on

723
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:15,400
Speaker 1: different farms, which you didn't really know if what you

724
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 1: were going to see what was there. I really didn't

725
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 1: know what was hanging out in these areas. I just

726
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 1: knew that my my good stands were getting rest. Right.

727
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:29,360
Speaker 1: So now what you've done is you've educated yourself that, hey,

728
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 1: maybe next year this area could be my new A,

729
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:35,319
Speaker 1: B or C stand, you know what I mean. So

730
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:41,240
Speaker 1: you've you've educated yourself on, I know, improving your odds

731
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 1: of killing them at your buck for sure. Yeah. And

732
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 1: I think what's kind of nice about those types of

733
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,840
Speaker 1: like um extra properties, Like you know, I've got my

734
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 1: properties them depending on UM that I'm like, Okay, this

735
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:54,799
Speaker 1: is where I'm probably gonna get it done, where I

736
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:56,839
Speaker 1: have confidence in it, and where I'm going to play

737
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,959
Speaker 1: all the cards just right, um. And so I don't

738
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 1: take higher risks there because I know if I play

739
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 1: it smart, I can succeed. But then having those extra

740
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:08,399
Speaker 1: properties where the risk isn't as high because you don't

741
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:11,279
Speaker 1: you're not really depending on it. Having those spots not

742
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 1: only is it nice because you can hunt more, but

743
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 1: just like you said, it's a testing ground. It's where

744
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 1: you can go out there and try new demands or

745
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 1: push it or get a little more aggressive, and you

746
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 1: don't need to be worried about screw up your whole

747
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,240
Speaker 1: hunting season because you can still you've got your old dependables,

748
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 1: but here's where you can push the line a little

749
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,400
Speaker 1: bit and maybe you get lucky, maybe you don't, but

750
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 1: you you're definitely gonna learn from that. Take those principles,

751
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 1: those aggressive principles, and apply them to your A, B

752
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 1: and C stands yes, and then that's where that's when

753
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 1: you become successful. Yeah, that that's That's a huge thing

754
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:46,279
Speaker 1: for me this year was was just having more options

755
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 1: to to push into try new things and to get

756
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 1: aggressive but not be screwing up my good spots. That

757
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:54,840
Speaker 1: was a big thing for me this year. Um, whether

758
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:56,799
Speaker 1: that be when I was hunting public land you know,

759
00:40:56,840 --> 00:41:00,120
Speaker 1: early this year, that was totally new and because as

760
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 1: the fact that it was a quick trip in public,

761
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 1: I knew I was just gonna have to push it

762
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 1: and try and I tried to play it smart at

763
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 1: first observe and then push um and I did that

764
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:10,360
Speaker 1: and that was awesome. I learned stuff from that. And

765
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 1: then here in Michigan, I had my dependable couple of

766
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 1: properties that I want to play safe on, and then

767
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 1: I had a couple of new spots where I was like,

768
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:19,359
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm gonna try stuff and I did.

769
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:21,359
Speaker 1: And I think because of that, now, like you're saying,

770
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 1: next year, I'm gonna go into the scenario with some

771
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:26,879
Speaker 1: new dependable spots or some new ideas that I think, Okay,

772
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:28,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna play it smart here because I think I

773
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 1: can get it done based on what I learned. And

774
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:31,879
Speaker 1: so what that means is, now, you know I want

775
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 1: I want to keep on trying to find additional new

776
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 1: places to just keep on building up that portfolio of

777
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 1: spots that I can either depend on or try out

778
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 1: new or at least you have places to hunt um,

779
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:46,760
Speaker 1: whether it be private or public. But you know, without

780
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 1: getting ahead of ourselves in two thousand and seventeen too much,

781
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 1: that's definitely another lesson learned for me is you can

782
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 1: never have enough places to hunt, right and then and

783
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:58,359
Speaker 1: then what you have here is over the years you

784
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:00,880
Speaker 1: generate all these different property is where you have access

785
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 1: to hunt, whether they're two acres or their two acres.

786
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 1: Now what you have is options, Like we talked about

787
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 1: its options and options not about land, but about the

788
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 1: quality of bucks that you're chasing to. So you know,

789
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 1: for for two or three years, you're shooting a three

790
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 1: year old. Then you say to yourself, man, okay, my

791
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:20,800
Speaker 1: goal is going to be a four year old. Well,

792
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 1: you have the property, you've put out the trail cameras,

793
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 1: or or you've done your homework or however however you

794
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 1: do your preseason scouting to determine what you know, what

795
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 1: your goal is. Then you can just leave other properties alone.

796
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:36,319
Speaker 1: And like me, over the years, the properties that I

797
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 1: thought were good, I don't even There's properties that I

798
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:41,399
Speaker 1: have access to that I don't even. I don't even

799
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:47,360
Speaker 1: hunt anymore, right, yeah, and I think I think this

800
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 1: this applies. Uh. You know also the public land, which

801
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:52,759
Speaker 1: was another big thing for me this year, you know,

802
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 1: going on that trip to Montana and totally spending my

803
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:57,880
Speaker 1: time in public land out there was was it was

804
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 1: something I wanted to do going into this year. I

805
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 1: was kind of inspired last spring to to take more

806
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:06,359
Speaker 1: of an effort to hunt public land. And I had

807
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:08,759
Speaker 1: so much fun with that, and just the idea of it,

808
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:11,880
Speaker 1: um kind of like captivated me that that's something that

809
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:14,280
Speaker 1: moving forward, I'm going to try to continue doing because

810
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 1: it's it's a playground for trying new things, and it's it's,

811
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 1: you know, an inherently different challenge to um and I

812
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 1: think because of that, you can have a level of

813
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:27,720
Speaker 1: satisfaction in that challenge at least taking on that challenge.

814
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 1: You know, that might be different than hunting a totally

815
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 1: managed farm, you know, hunting my manicured managed you know,

816
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 1: only me hunting a property. I might be disappointed if

817
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 1: I don't shoot the four year old or whatever it

818
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 1: might be, but hunting public land, you know, just having

819
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 1: an encounter with the three year old would be like, oh,

820
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 1: that was awesome. UM. So I think that was a

821
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 1: big thing that I learned is just that public land

822
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 1: is available and it's a lot of fun. Um. So

823
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 1: I plan on doing more of that. UM, I don't know,

824
00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:01,400
Speaker 1: you know, another thing, this is totally unrelated um, but

825
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:05,839
Speaker 1: another thing, and well, let me take a step back.

826
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 1: Do you have anything more on that? Because I was

827
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 1: about to totally move on to something totally different than

828
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:13,800
Speaker 1: just popped up head. Let's move on to something totally different,

829
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:15,760
Speaker 1: because I think I've said all I needed to say,

830
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:17,840
Speaker 1: so I was just going to continue moving on to

831
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:20,279
Speaker 1: the other like lessons that I kind of picked up

832
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 1: or was reminded of this year. And I talked about

833
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 1: this a lot throughout the season, Like I mentioned that

834
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 1: I was doing this a lot, but it was just

835
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 1: like it was a change I made this year that

836
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 1: made one of the biggest differences in my season compared

837
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 1: to past and that was my exit strategy out of

838
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:38,280
Speaker 1: tree stands. And I know that my situation was unique

839
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 1: because not everybody has a wife who would be willing

840
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 1: to pick them up. But by having my wife drive

841
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 1: my a TV out and pick me up from these

842
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:50,839
Speaker 1: evening sits made a night and day difference in the

843
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:53,720
Speaker 1: type of activity I have continued to see throughout the season.

844
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 1: So I would just I'm gonna do everything I can

845
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:58,799
Speaker 1: to stay in the good graces of that woman so

846
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 1: that she will do this for me the future. And

847
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 1: if you don't have a wife who might be able

848
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 1: to do that, you know, pay a friend or buy

849
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:08,400
Speaker 1: a buddy some beer, or save his life. So he owes.

850
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 1: You find out some way if you can, if you

851
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 1: hunt a property that's conducive to this, find a way

852
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 1: to get those places cleared out in the evening and

853
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 1: get yourself picked up so you're not spooking deer on

854
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 1: the way out. Because at least now, this isn't the

855
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 1: case for all properties, because some properties you can sneak

856
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:26,920
Speaker 1: out of the timber where there's no deer at all,

857
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 1: and it's it's fine. I've got some spots I hunt

858
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 1: like that too, But this Michigan property, to get out

859
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 1: of that property you have to go through food sources

860
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:37,799
Speaker 1: or near food sources. And so for years and years

861
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:40,759
Speaker 1: and years, I was spooking dear every single night when

862
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 1: I came out, and I tried to change my exit route.

863
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 1: I cut a path through some tall grass. I thought,

864
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:48,799
Speaker 1: might still, you know, save me. But I was still

865
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,279
Speaker 1: spooking deer, and you would you would just see it.

866
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 1: You would see the activity decline every hunt, even though

867
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 1: I did everything else right. And this year, with the

868
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:01,320
Speaker 1: a t V thing, I'm we talked about it. I

869
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 1: just do not think I would be seeing holy Field

870
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 1: as daylight active as he is over and over and

871
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:09,439
Speaker 1: over and over if he had seen me walking out,

872
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:11,400
Speaker 1: and then I know he would have if I was

873
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 1: walking out some of these nights, um or at least

874
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 1: all these does would and um and that just hasn't

875
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 1: been the case. I've been able to avoid that. I

876
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 1: don't I don't think I've spooked Dear physically with my

877
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 1: own you know, me walking out or stepping up, climbing

878
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 1: out of a tree stand more than maybe once this season,

879
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 1: as I'm trying to think of this off the top

880
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:32,839
Speaker 1: of my head, compared to you know, I'm sure many

881
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 1: other times in the past. So that's something that you know,

882
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:38,399
Speaker 1: we know what we talked about all the time. Entry next,

883
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 1: it's important. But this was like one of those eye

884
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 1: opening examples where I made a significant change and it

885
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 1: made a significant difference than what I saw and that

886
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 1: was just like a big aha for me. And you know,

887
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 1: it's not possible for everybody to have that, but man,

888
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 1: it sure was worthwhile if if you can try to

889
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 1: finangle something like that, right right, hey man? Uh, this

890
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 1: year I watched abetted to two year old, maybe a

891
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 1: three year old just not even move when a guy

892
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 1: started combining in his corn so and he was probably, oh,

893
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 1: i'd say, a hundred yards off the cornfield. We're sitting

894
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 1: at a triangle. Let's just put it. Use triangle as

895
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 1: an example. One point was the combine guy one or

896
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:24,920
Speaker 1: the combined one point was me, and another point was

897
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 1: the betted buck. And they didn't He didn't even move.

898
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 1: He didn't even look like he was paying attention to it.

899
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 1: So that tells you right there that they're not. Depending

900
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 1: on where you are in the in the country, uh,

901
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 1: they're not. They're not going to be spooked by that

902
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:47,799
Speaker 1: at all. Now in Kansas, where my uncle hunts any car,

903
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:51,799
Speaker 1: any truck, they're gone because so many people shoot out

904
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:55,800
Speaker 1: of their windows down down in his area. But um,

905
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:58,719
Speaker 1: but for me, I've noticed that you know, what you're

906
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:02,719
Speaker 1: saying is is true? Done tree case. Yeah, and and

907
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:05,360
Speaker 1: and even in these cases, you are spooking the deer.

908
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 1: You know, it's better to spook the deer in a

909
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 1: vehicle than as a person because they're used to a vehicle.

910
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 1: That's something like okay that I don't want to be

911
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:16,359
Speaker 1: near it. But it's not going to scare the crap

912
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:18,280
Speaker 1: out of me. I'll come back out in twenty minutes,

913
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 1: versus a human being walking by that's not supposed to

914
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 1: be there. Um right, So I think even getting spooked

915
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 1: by vehicle or an a TV is a better spook

916
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:29,799
Speaker 1: than seeing a human being out there. So it's a

917
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:32,240
Speaker 1: simple thing. But um, that one made a big difference.

918
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 1: But anything else this year, anything else in two thousand

919
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 1: and sixteen that you think we should talk about for

920
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:41,360
Speaker 1: a year season or my season or anything. Well, you

921
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 1: know how last year, Uh, they logged that property and

922
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:47,840
Speaker 1: I was very disappointed with you know, they were in

923
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:50,799
Speaker 1: there in October and then the ruts sucked because all

924
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:52,839
Speaker 1: the deer were pushed out by the time they were

925
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 1: done logging. Um, this year it recovered and I've noticed

926
00:48:57,080 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 1: some serious even in this one this eight month period,

927
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:06,400
Speaker 1: really good growth hit that forest floor or sunlight hit

928
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 1: that forest floor. Some of these weeds started growing up

929
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 1: thick and nasty. So I just I'm really excited for

930
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:16,239
Speaker 1: even next year where some of the area areas are

931
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 1: even more thick and nasty. So, um, I can see

932
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 1: where some of this uh, this timber stained improvement you know,

933
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 1: letting some of these dropping some trees and letting some

934
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:32,320
Speaker 1: some light get to the forest floor could improve improve

935
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 1: your deer herd numbers. Heck yeah, I improves the cover

936
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 1: and food. Um man, that kind of stuff is is

937
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 1: great And that actually kind of leads me to some

938
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:45,800
Speaker 1: of my thoughts for two sev um, because there's a

939
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:47,480
Speaker 1: lot of stuff I've already been thinking about, like all

940
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:49,120
Speaker 1: the different changes I want to make, whether it be

941
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 1: with my strategy or two properties um because two Seen

942
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 1: is gonna be a big year. But you know what,

943
00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:58,799
Speaker 1: do you realize that we have just about finished up

944
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 1: our third hunting season together as co host on this podcast.

945
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:05,279
Speaker 1: I know, man, I was, I was thinking about that

946
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:08,839
Speaker 1: the other day. That's it. I don't know. I just

947
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 1: I love I love talking about this. It doesn't even

948
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:14,480
Speaker 1: seem like we've been doing it this long because I

949
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 1: just have. I have so much fun doing it. Yeah,

950
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:20,759
Speaker 1: we've We've told a lot of stories, we've talked, We've

951
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:22,759
Speaker 1: you know, I've had a lot of hunting buddies. But

952
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:25,239
Speaker 1: I think given this podcast, I don't think anybody has

953
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 1: has I don't think I've talked to anybody about my

954
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 1: hunting season more than you. Well, remember we have thousands

955
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:35,920
Speaker 1: and thousands of listeners who listen to this podcast, so

956
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:37,800
Speaker 1: you're not just talking to me. That's a good point.

957
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:43,239
Speaker 1: I didn't think about that. But you're the only one

958
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:48,799
Speaker 1: who talks back at least at least nicely, right, So

959
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 1: two thousand and seventeen man excited. Actually don't answer that, Dan.

960
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 1: Let's take a second for a last break today to

961
00:50:56,719 --> 00:51:00,080
Speaker 1: thank our partners at Maven Optics. And Maven is a

962
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 1: small high end optics company that not only produces the

963
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:05,879
Speaker 1: best set of binoculars I've ever owned, but it's also

964
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 1: a company that is a story that I just love.

965
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 1: And one of Maven's co founders, Brendan Weaver, chatted me

966
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:13,880
Speaker 1: earlier this year about what it felt like to have

967
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 1: this dream of creating and selling better binoculars and optics

968
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 1: in a in a just widely different way and actually

969
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:25,279
Speaker 1: see that dream come to fruition. That's crazy, you know,

970
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:33,040
Speaker 1: it's you know, having worked for a big corporation, it's

971
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 1: like it never feels personal, even though if you're you know,

972
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:38,960
Speaker 1: you make something, you draw it up and that's you know,

973
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 1: that's what I do. The design where you draw something

974
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:43,919
Speaker 1: up and then you see it on the shelf. There

975
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:47,960
Speaker 1: were always so many more, you know, opinions that would

976
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:50,479
Speaker 1: end at all, we can't use that color because such

977
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 1: and such store doesn't like that color. But when it's

978
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 1: completely yours and you see it go from like you

979
00:51:57,080 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 1: said that, that conversation around the campfire, two, that first order,

980
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:08,400
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's it was pretty special. You know.

981
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:12,360
Speaker 1: You hope, you hope a ton of sales followed, but

982
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 1: it's like, hey man, we sold going it works, you know,

983
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:19,920
Speaker 1: it's hype five. Luckily for us, it didn't just end it.

984
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 1: You know, it's selling our first binocular. But yeah, it

985
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:24,279
Speaker 1: was pretty you know, and we we live in a

986
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:28,400
Speaker 1: tiny town in Wyoming, and so it's it's pretty cool

987
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:32,360
Speaker 1: to compete against these these big players in the optics

988
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 1: world and we're you know, right now, we're four guys.

989
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:39,840
Speaker 1: We just hired our first employee in January, so it

990
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:42,759
Speaker 1: was just three of them working here in Lander, and

991
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:47,279
Speaker 1: that's a pretty pretty big deal here. It was, it was,

992
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:50,759
Speaker 1: it was special when that happened. That's awesome. And I

993
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:52,920
Speaker 1: gotta say, if you're in the market for a new

994
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 1: set of binos or spotting scope, maybe is an option

995
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:59,280
Speaker 1: that you just got to check out. So if you're interested,

996
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:02,399
Speaker 1: you can fully customize them by directly from Maven by

997
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:06,640
Speaker 1: visiting maven built dot com. And with that, let's get

998
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:09,880
Speaker 1: back to the show and dance. Thoughts on two thousand seventeen.

999
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 1: You have no idea, Like, I'm excited on so many

1000
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:21,279
Speaker 1: different levels. Um, I'm so excited for it that it's

1001
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 1: hard for me to you know, Okay, so check this out.

1002
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 1: You know they say that at the average guy thinks

1003
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:32,840
Speaker 1: about sex like once everything every seconds or whatever that whatever,

1004
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 1: that that number is. Okay, So now add deer hunting

1005
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:44,200
Speaker 1: and hunting and plans for two thousand and seventeen into that. Like,

1006
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:46,759
Speaker 1: so all I'm doing about now, I feel like it's

1007
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:50,439
Speaker 1: thinking about sex and like I'm not even thinking about

1008
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 1: anything else. Don't forget to take a crap and eat

1009
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:57,239
Speaker 1: some food every once while though, two right, right, right,

1010
00:53:57,360 --> 00:53:59,120
Speaker 1: But you've got the important stuff covered, so you're gonna

1011
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 1: be okay this year. Here we are, right, I'm I'm

1012
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:07,080
Speaker 1: pumped too. I'm super pumped too. It's uh, you have

1013
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:11,840
Speaker 1: it's the decision you made to pass holy Field and

1014
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:16,799
Speaker 1: not to go after him anymore. It's just it's just

1015
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:19,160
Speaker 1: a trail leading right into two thousand and seventeen. Oh

1016
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:23,719
Speaker 1: I know, and uh, it's it's got me see. And

1017
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:25,279
Speaker 1: I don't want to talk about this too much because

1018
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:27,799
Speaker 1: I think we've talked about so much. But um, but

1019
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:31,480
Speaker 1: I felt so good just making that decision because of

1020
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:33,720
Speaker 1: this excitement I knew I was going to have for seventeen.

1021
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 1: And I think if I had shot holy Field it

1022
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 1: would have been great. But I would have entered this

1023
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 1: new year, you know, with not with Harley as much

1024
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 1: to be excited about. There's no other bocks on this

1025
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 1: property that I would be interested in hunting that I've seen.

1026
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:49,720
Speaker 1: There's nothing I have history with left. Um, there wouldn't

1027
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 1: be this history that I've come to find. Is so,

1028
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 1: you know, interesting and fun to add to a hunt. Um,

1029
00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 1: And now you know, now I don't know last night

1030
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:06,480
Speaker 1: this is I'm being I'm being overly paranoid here. But

1031
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:09,799
Speaker 1: last night, like I told you, I saw him, and um,

1032
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:12,799
Speaker 1: it's it's both season only for bucks right now, but

1033
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:15,560
Speaker 1: there is a late dough season going on with firearms,

1034
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:17,759
Speaker 1: so you could shoot a dough with a gun, but

1035
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:19,920
Speaker 1: you can only shoot a buck with a bow. Well,

1036
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:21,960
Speaker 1: last night, I'm watching holy Field a couple of hundred

1037
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 1: yards away, and then eventually, I don't know, like five

1038
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 1: o'clock or something, he goes feeding off two into the timber,

1039
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:33,400
Speaker 1: but heading towards the south, kind of towards a neighboring property.

1040
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:37,120
Speaker 1: And maybe half hour later or something, I heard a

1041
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:41,720
Speaker 1: huge old gun shot. They had to be next door, um,

1042
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:44,840
Speaker 1: very nearby one of the neighboring properties. Somebody shot a

1043
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:49,280
Speaker 1: deer over there, and I would like to think that, um,

1044
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 1: you know, they just shot a dough But the fact

1045
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:53,800
Speaker 1: that I had seen holy Field walk in that direction,

1046
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:56,080
Speaker 1: now this is he's still he would still have been,

1047
00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:58,719
Speaker 1: you know, hundreds of yards away from that property or

1048
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:02,240
Speaker 1: farther away. So I know it's unlikely someone's gonna illegally

1049
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 1: shoot this buck. It's it's unlikely he even made it

1050
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:10,440
Speaker 1: over there. But it's still like I got concerned. But um,

1051
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:13,719
Speaker 1: but assuming that didn't happen, he makes it through these

1052
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:16,600
Speaker 1: next couple of nights, you know it happened. You know,

1053
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:19,480
Speaker 1: I've got three more days left of the season, and uh,

1054
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:21,839
Speaker 1: you know the fact that he made this far I

1055
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:24,799
Speaker 1: think it just was proof again to me myself, just

1056
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:28,080
Speaker 1: that I made the right decision, and man, I'm so

1057
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 1: pumped to get out there and look for sheds. Um

1058
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 1: it's gonna be like the shed hunting super Bowl for me.

1059
00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:37,239
Speaker 1: There there's never been a buck. I think to this

1060
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 1: point that I would have wanted to find his sheds

1061
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:43,239
Speaker 1: as much as this one. So super stoked about that.

1062
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:45,560
Speaker 1: And then you know, I'm already I've already been thinking

1063
00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:47,400
Speaker 1: through all sorts of ideas about what I want to

1064
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:49,480
Speaker 1: do differently hunting him next year. You know what I

1065
00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:51,480
Speaker 1: learned from this year and what's been kind of cool

1066
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:54,480
Speaker 1: about this deer is because I've had so many encounters,

1067
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:57,920
Speaker 1: so many pictures, just the number of data points I

1068
00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:00,440
Speaker 1: have that I can kind of plug in to this

1069
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:02,480
Speaker 1: whole like formula of trying to figure out, like I

1070
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:05,479
Speaker 1: have an immense amount of data. So I just love,

1071
00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:07,759
Speaker 1: you know, like you and I both we love looking

1072
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:09,840
Speaker 1: at all this stuff and thinking about, Okay, what's the

1073
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:12,960
Speaker 1: pattern here, what's the why did he go here? Then?

1074
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:15,279
Speaker 1: Why did he move this way? Then I've got so

1075
00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:18,800
Speaker 1: many different pieces I can look at now that I

1076
00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:20,840
Speaker 1: can't tell you if I'll figure anything out, but at

1077
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:24,000
Speaker 1: least have fun trying to which which I think is

1078
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:25,680
Speaker 1: half of it or more than that half of it.

1079
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:28,720
Speaker 1: So I know that I'm going to be, you know,

1080
00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:33,480
Speaker 1: just studying like my deer lab and my little notebook

1081
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:36,240
Speaker 1: I have with every single encounter I have with him,

1082
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:39,240
Speaker 1: where he was the wind direction, I'm gonna start pulling

1083
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:41,040
Speaker 1: in the moon phase and very much of pressure into

1084
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 1: that log. And and then I have just trying to

1085
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:46,840
Speaker 1: extrapolate some type of learning from this. And like you know,

1086
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:48,960
Speaker 1: I thought i'd learned some things about him from last

1087
00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:52,040
Speaker 1: year to this year. UM, and I made some changes

1088
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:54,920
Speaker 1: and still you know, I had some close calls. I

1089
00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:57,040
Speaker 1: was definitely seeing him, but I never quite was able

1090
00:57:57,040 --> 00:57:59,880
Speaker 1: to close the deal. So now in seventeen and I'm like, okay,

1091
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:02,480
Speaker 1: now I want to tweak this. I'm gonna pull back

1092
00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:05,640
Speaker 1: here on a push here. UM, I want to I

1093
00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:09,080
Speaker 1: want to try to make some property improvements. UM. You know,

1094
00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:11,080
Speaker 1: one of the things on this property is that he

1095
00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:13,160
Speaker 1: doesn't seem to bet on the farming hunt a lot.

1096
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:15,880
Speaker 1: He seems that there's one little spot that he beds occasionally,

1097
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:18,160
Speaker 1: but it seems like he's betting on neighboring properties a

1098
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:20,440
Speaker 1: little bit more. UM. I think the one reason why

1099
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:22,360
Speaker 1: I was getting the potential to get shots, you know,

1100
00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:24,080
Speaker 1: the one chance I could have shot H with the

1101
00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:26,200
Speaker 1: muzload the other day. And now in the late season,

1102
00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 1: a lot has been because of the food sources I

1103
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:31,040
Speaker 1: put in. So the food has been very, very very important.

1104
00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:32,560
Speaker 1: So I want to make sure what can I do

1105
00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:35,840
Speaker 1: to improve those food sources even more and to change

1106
00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:38,680
Speaker 1: the times of year he's in there or improve the

1107
00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 1: amount of time he's in there. Um, And I'm thinking like,

1108
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:43,480
Speaker 1: where can I improve cover? How can I get him

1109
00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 1: to bed on my property more often? How can I

1110
00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:47,400
Speaker 1: get him to come over the property line a little

1111
00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:49,240
Speaker 1: bit further so he might be in range and feel

1112
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:51,360
Speaker 1: more comfortable. So I'm thinking about how can I extend

1113
00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:54,360
Speaker 1: cover onto my side of the line, maybe push my

1114
00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:57,600
Speaker 1: food plots deeper into my property instead of closer to

1115
00:58:57,760 --> 00:58:59,640
Speaker 1: property borders. I don't know, There's a whole bunch of

1116
00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:01,880
Speaker 1: stuff like that that I'm starting to just like brainstorm

1117
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:05,120
Speaker 1: about that. You know, what can I how can I

1118
00:59:05,240 --> 00:59:07,640
Speaker 1: just slim the odds a little bit more? In my

1119
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:11,040
Speaker 1: favorite I'm just gonna kind of in two thousand and seventeen,

1120
00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:14,600
Speaker 1: my goal on this property where he is is to

1121
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:18,280
Speaker 1: take everything I've been doing and just crank up the

1122
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:20,840
Speaker 1: level of detail even more. So I'm gonna go back

1123
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:22,600
Speaker 1: to every one of my tree stands that I've hunted

1124
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:24,640
Speaker 1: this year, and I'm going to add cover to all

1125
00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:27,200
Speaker 1: of them. I'm going to if I need to shift

1126
00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:29,120
Speaker 1: four feet over, I'm going to do it this year.

1127
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:34,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna just because there's I've invested so much in

1128
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:37,000
Speaker 1: this hunt and I'm so excited to hopefully Bill hunt

1129
00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:39,280
Speaker 1: him in two thousand and seventeen. I don't want to

1130
00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:42,040
Speaker 1: leave any stone unturned. So I'm just going to I'm

1131
00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:43,840
Speaker 1: gonna go into this and it's all gonna be spring.

1132
00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:46,439
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have everything done by like April. My goal

1133
00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:51,240
Speaker 1: is this year. So I think he said that last

1134
00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:54,720
Speaker 1: year too, well I did I did better last year.

1135
00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:57,400
Speaker 1: But this year I'm gonna do really good. Okay, this

1136
00:59:57,480 --> 01:00:00,720
Speaker 1: year is gonna be much better. Um But you're right.

1137
01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:03,320
Speaker 1: Every year in the winter we have these grand ideas.

1138
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:06,360
Speaker 1: But um but I have to I have to follow

1139
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:10,560
Speaker 1: through this year even more completely. Um So I'm just

1140
01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:11,960
Speaker 1: I know I'm gonna be going in the next year,

1141
01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:14,560
Speaker 1: assuming assuming I get pictures of here in the next

1142
01:00:14,600 --> 01:00:17,360
Speaker 1: couple of days. He's still alive. Hopefully it's gonna be

1143
01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:19,800
Speaker 1: a new level of excitement that I don't think I've

1144
01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:23,920
Speaker 1: had on this specific place before, which, um, which I'm

1145
01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:28,680
Speaker 1: really pumped about. So so I don't know, Yeah, property adjustments,

1146
01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:29,920
Speaker 1: you know, the one other thing when it comes to

1147
01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:33,960
Speaker 1: that hunt. Um. And I'm skipping ahead maybe and how

1148
01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:35,720
Speaker 1: I thought we were going to talk about this stuff,

1149
01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:37,480
Speaker 1: but I'm kind of getting into some of the things

1150
01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:39,040
Speaker 1: I want to change for next year and some of

1151
01:00:39,080 --> 01:00:41,680
Speaker 1: like my New Year's resolutions. Um. And so one of

1152
01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:44,720
Speaker 1: my big resolutions is just to take like I just said,

1153
01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:48,400
Speaker 1: I'm taking everything up a notch on this property. Um.

1154
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:52,400
Speaker 1: But not only with you know, tweaking stands and food

1155
01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:54,720
Speaker 1: plots and adding more cover and all that kind of stuff,

1156
01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:59,000
Speaker 1: but also with my timing. Um. And you know, I'm

1157
01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:01,000
Speaker 1: obsessive about my I'm and we talked about this all

1158
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:03,600
Speaker 1: the time. I try to be really careful. But this year,

1159
01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:05,680
Speaker 1: you know, and we talked about this a touch, but

1160
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:09,840
Speaker 1: I think you know, I went in with the original

1161
01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:11,720
Speaker 1: goal of hunting him the first couple of nights of

1162
01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:15,520
Speaker 1: the season and then staying out until like the beginning

1163
01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:18,440
Speaker 1: of the pre run. So staying out until late October. Right,

1164
01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:23,960
Speaker 1: But because of these cold friends that were coming through,

1165
01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:26,520
Speaker 1: and because of one sighting and a couple of trail

1166
01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:28,600
Speaker 1: care pictures, I go out of him that indicated that

1167
01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:31,400
Speaker 1: he was moving in daylight a little bit. I kept

1168
01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:34,000
Speaker 1: hunting throughout October. So I hunted the first weekend, and

1169
01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:36,080
Speaker 1: then I hunted the second weekend, and then I hunted

1170
01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:39,160
Speaker 1: the third weekend. Um, And I kept doing it and

1171
01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:42,480
Speaker 1: telling myself, well, you're doing it because he was daylight

1172
01:01:42,520 --> 01:01:45,040
Speaker 1: active a couple yards from here, or you saw him

1173
01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:48,280
Speaker 1: one night, and um, and all that. You know, I think,

1174
01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:52,560
Speaker 1: in most instances usually is a good sign and reason

1175
01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:56,280
Speaker 1: to go hunt. But on the other hand, I think

1176
01:01:56,280 --> 01:01:58,560
Speaker 1: to myself, if I had not, if I had just

1177
01:01:58,960 --> 01:02:01,080
Speaker 1: let him let it. Even though I got a picture

1178
01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:03,720
Speaker 1: of him on the fifteenth in daylight, even though I

1179
01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:06,240
Speaker 1: saw him in daylight on the eighth way off in

1180
01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:10,280
Speaker 1: the distance, um, he wasn't moving a ton during daylight

1181
01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:12,760
Speaker 1: at that time of year. If I had waited until

1182
01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:15,960
Speaker 1: October twenty to hunt there again, I bet you he

1183
01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:18,160
Speaker 1: would have been much more likely to be within range

1184
01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:21,400
Speaker 1: when I finally did going to hunt him on or

1185
01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:25,800
Speaker 1: or the third rather than what the situation was, which

1186
01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:27,280
Speaker 1: was when I went and hunted him on the twenty,

1187
01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:28,919
Speaker 1: you know, after I had hunt him the eighth, ninth

1188
01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:37,320
Speaker 1: and the sixteen and the sette. I saw him some

1189
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:38,840
Speaker 1: of those times, but he was always out of range.

1190
01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:40,520
Speaker 1: He was always back in the cover. And I think

1191
01:02:40,560 --> 01:02:43,120
Speaker 1: if I had been a little bit more careful and

1192
01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:45,760
Speaker 1: resisted the urge to hunt, I think maybe he would

1193
01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:48,320
Speaker 1: have been within range on my side of the line

1194
01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:51,520
Speaker 1: a couple of those times. Um. So this year, I

1195
01:02:51,560 --> 01:02:55,280
Speaker 1: think I'm gonna attack early like I planned, but then

1196
01:02:55,520 --> 01:02:59,840
Speaker 1: resist the temptation to go full bore until he you know,

1197
01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:03,160
Speaker 1: who knows. Things might change, but I'm gonna try, and

1198
01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:05,360
Speaker 1: at least I'm gonna be going into the season thinking

1199
01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:08,760
Speaker 1: about the idea of laying off him completely again until

1200
01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:11,800
Speaker 1: he gets ready. Because when he got ready, he was

1201
01:03:11,960 --> 01:03:14,960
Speaker 1: very vulnerable. I think he was just vulnerable in the

1202
01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:18,560
Speaker 1: wrong places for me. Um, And if I had been

1203
01:03:18,560 --> 01:03:20,320
Speaker 1: a little bit careful, I think he maybe would have

1204
01:03:20,320 --> 01:03:23,240
Speaker 1: been a little bit, a little bit more within my reach.

1205
01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:25,040
Speaker 1: And then secondly, you know, the other thing is that

1206
01:03:25,120 --> 01:03:26,880
Speaker 1: once he did get ready, and once he was really

1207
01:03:26,880 --> 01:03:29,160
Speaker 1: active and I was seeing him every day. There was

1208
01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:30,920
Speaker 1: a couple of times there where I saw him move

1209
01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:33,480
Speaker 1: somewhere and I could have hunted it, and I didn't

1210
01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:35,240
Speaker 1: move to hunt there because I thought the spot looks

1211
01:03:35,240 --> 01:03:37,720
Speaker 1: stupid and I was like, that seems like a dumb place.

1212
01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:39,600
Speaker 1: I don't think I'll ever go there again. But if

1213
01:03:39,600 --> 01:03:41,520
Speaker 1: I had moved, I would have killed him the next day.

1214
01:03:42,040 --> 01:03:45,240
Speaker 1: And then I was like, well, and I didn't move,

1215
01:03:45,880 --> 01:03:48,320
Speaker 1: and then he he scooted out there one more time.

1216
01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:50,280
Speaker 1: And so there was two times where I could have

1217
01:03:51,400 --> 01:03:54,720
Speaker 1: believed my eyes and made the adjustment, but it didn't. Um.

1218
01:03:54,760 --> 01:03:56,880
Speaker 1: So next year, I'm going to have a stand in

1219
01:03:56,920 --> 01:03:59,720
Speaker 1: this spot where I wish I would have. And then

1220
01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:01,960
Speaker 1: I'm also not going to be afraid to make you know.

1221
01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:03,840
Speaker 1: And I think every year we talked about this, and

1222
01:04:03,880 --> 01:04:05,280
Speaker 1: every year I get a little better, Like I was

1223
01:04:05,320 --> 01:04:09,240
Speaker 1: definitely more aggressive in different places this year in certain ways. UM,

1224
01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:12,080
Speaker 1: But I think there's you know, It's it's constantly figuring

1225
01:04:12,080 --> 01:04:15,400
Speaker 1: out where's the line. There's always that balance beam you

1226
01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:18,680
Speaker 1: have to walk in between being conservative and being careful

1227
01:04:18,680 --> 01:04:22,040
Speaker 1: and not putting pressure unduly versus knowing when to take

1228
01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:24,840
Speaker 1: the jump. And I'm constantly getting better at that, but

1229
01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:27,000
Speaker 1: I think this year, I know I can take one

1230
01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:33,040
Speaker 1: more step now, right, Yeah, that's gonna I feel. I

1231
01:04:33,080 --> 01:04:37,280
Speaker 1: almost feel that same way. However, I think for for

1232
01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:42,600
Speaker 1: a guy like me and you who look at the

1233
01:04:42,680 --> 01:04:44,400
Speaker 1: data that you had, and what I mean by data

1234
01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:48,080
Speaker 1: is true camer pictures and sidings, I I don't think

1235
01:04:48,120 --> 01:04:52,240
Speaker 1: you really made a mistake on holy Field to the

1236
01:04:52,280 --> 01:04:58,000
Speaker 1: point where I feel that you m that because he

1237
01:04:58,120 --> 01:05:03,200
Speaker 1: was out of range isn't necessarily because you screwed it

1238
01:05:03,320 --> 01:05:09,600
Speaker 1: up fair enough. I mean, I always had a good

1239
01:05:09,640 --> 01:05:11,959
Speaker 1: reason to go hunt. I will say that, like every

1240
01:05:12,040 --> 01:05:14,440
Speaker 1: night that I went in there, I could justify it

1241
01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:16,160
Speaker 1: to myself, which is why I kept doing it. Like

1242
01:05:16,200 --> 01:05:19,600
Speaker 1: I was okay the second weekend, I'm only gonna hunt

1243
01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:22,440
Speaker 1: now because there's a fifteen gree temperature drop and I

1244
01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:24,720
Speaker 1: saw him in daylight, you know, on camera three days

1245
01:05:24,720 --> 01:05:26,840
Speaker 1: ago and the bare match, so I was like, Okay,

1246
01:05:27,160 --> 01:05:28,720
Speaker 1: I know I didn't want to do this, this wasn't

1247
01:05:28,760 --> 01:05:31,360
Speaker 1: the plan, but X, Y and Z are really making

1248
01:05:31,400 --> 01:05:36,200
Speaker 1: me think you should, and so I went, um, so,

1249
01:05:36,200 --> 01:05:38,360
Speaker 1: so yeah, I don't know. I thought I had a

1250
01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:42,200
Speaker 1: good reason to do it whenever I did. But you know, it,

1251
01:05:42,360 --> 01:05:44,080
Speaker 1: I never did have him been arranged except for that

1252
01:05:44,120 --> 01:05:47,680
Speaker 1: one time. Um so, so yeah, I mean it could

1253
01:05:47,680 --> 01:05:50,880
Speaker 1: have been unlucky. And I did everything that I could

1254
01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:53,000
Speaker 1: have done right, and I just did the opportunities to

1255
01:05:53,080 --> 01:05:56,920
Speaker 1: present itself or and I don't mean to you know,

1256
01:05:56,960 --> 01:05:59,120
Speaker 1: it is what it is. But my property just is

1257
01:05:59,200 --> 01:06:02,800
Speaker 1: not you know, it's it's a secondary property compared to

1258
01:06:02,800 --> 01:06:05,320
Speaker 1: where he's hanging out most of the time. Um so

1259
01:06:06,200 --> 01:06:08,520
Speaker 1: he if I could hunt this other property a couple

1260
01:06:08,560 --> 01:06:12,680
Speaker 1: of well really another property and a half, like holy smokes,

1261
01:06:12,720 --> 01:06:14,880
Speaker 1: Like I feel like this would have a big game

1262
01:06:14,960 --> 01:06:18,200
Speaker 1: over but I'm kind of stuck hunting the edge and

1263
01:06:18,240 --> 01:06:25,360
Speaker 1: I'm making sure probably not the best idea. But yeah,

1264
01:06:25,720 --> 01:06:30,560
Speaker 1: don't listen to me. No, I typically don't. But but

1265
01:06:30,560 --> 01:06:33,200
Speaker 1: but yeah, you know, it's you know, making the most

1266
01:06:33,280 --> 01:06:38,360
Speaker 1: of what I got. Um but I definitely, I definitely

1267
01:06:38,600 --> 01:06:41,560
Speaker 1: have wrestled with what you just said, like and I

1268
01:06:41,840 --> 01:06:43,600
Speaker 1: didn't make a mistake, did not make a mistake. I

1269
01:06:43,640 --> 01:06:47,120
Speaker 1: don't know, but I don't know what it's all said

1270
01:06:47,120 --> 01:06:50,280
Speaker 1: and done. I will have learned something from this. I

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01:06:50,280 --> 01:06:52,480
Speaker 1: can't quit put my finger on exactly what the lesson is.

1272
01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:54,440
Speaker 1: I'm trying to like kind of figure it out still,

1273
01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:58,600
Speaker 1: but um, it's been an interesting experience, that's for sure.

1274
01:07:00,160 --> 01:07:02,560
Speaker 1: I hope it all works out. Man, Yeah, me too.

1275
01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:05,840
Speaker 1: What about you? What uh that? That's one of the

1276
01:07:05,880 --> 01:07:08,040
Speaker 1: things I'm going to two thousand sevent wanting to do.

1277
01:07:08,040 --> 01:07:10,920
Speaker 1: And there's a couple more things. But what what do

1278
01:07:10,920 --> 01:07:14,919
Speaker 1: you got any any big resolutions? Any big changes? I got?

1279
01:07:15,440 --> 01:07:20,560
Speaker 1: I got a handful of things, right. Um. This first

1280
01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:27,080
Speaker 1: one sounds really cliche, but I mean all the you know,

1281
01:07:27,120 --> 01:07:30,400
Speaker 1: you see those guys on Instagram and they're they're lifting

1282
01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:33,000
Speaker 1: weights and they're you know, like, oh, I'm a I'm

1283
01:07:33,040 --> 01:07:36,320
Speaker 1: an athletic hunter. I I do cross fit and I

1284
01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:39,560
Speaker 1: do all these things and it helps me hunt. Well,

1285
01:07:40,360 --> 01:07:44,120
Speaker 1: this sounds cliche, but I'm going on in Elk Hunt

1286
01:07:44,360 --> 01:07:48,800
Speaker 1: in Colorado this next year, and I want to be

1287
01:07:49,040 --> 01:07:52,480
Speaker 1: in the best possible shape that I can be in.

1288
01:07:53,080 --> 01:07:55,120
Speaker 1: So that means I'm gonna have to change my diet

1289
01:07:55,160 --> 01:07:58,600
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna have to work out really hard the

1290
01:07:58,760 --> 01:08:03,160
Speaker 1: spring this summer leading up into September. So that's that's

1291
01:08:03,400 --> 01:08:06,640
Speaker 1: the first kind of New Year's resolution. And now I

1292
01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:11,080
Speaker 1: trained hard. I I thought I trained pretty hard going

1293
01:08:11,120 --> 01:08:15,200
Speaker 1: into our Idaho trip that one year and it's still

1294
01:08:15,280 --> 01:08:19,240
Speaker 1: kicked my butt. So granted, there's not a lot you

1295
01:08:19,240 --> 01:08:23,960
Speaker 1: can do when I live at four sea level and

1296
01:08:24,680 --> 01:08:28,240
Speaker 1: I'm trying to hunt in nine thou feet, right, there's

1297
01:08:28,240 --> 01:08:30,479
Speaker 1: nothing you can do. There's no way to really simulate

1298
01:08:30,520 --> 01:08:33,280
Speaker 1: that or train that. But I felt that there was

1299
01:08:33,320 --> 01:08:35,439
Speaker 1: more things I could do for my cardio, there was

1300
01:08:35,479 --> 01:08:38,320
Speaker 1: more things I could do for the way that I trained.

1301
01:08:38,640 --> 01:08:41,840
Speaker 1: My diet had a real shitty diet. So I'm going

1302
01:08:41,880 --> 01:08:47,080
Speaker 1: to really focus and train to basically train to hunt

1303
01:08:47,640 --> 01:08:50,479
Speaker 1: that that that kind of scenario. So I like that,

1304
01:08:50,520 --> 01:08:52,760
Speaker 1: Can I can I offer a piece of advice? Yes?

1305
01:08:54,120 --> 01:08:56,800
Speaker 1: And this was this is something I've always thought, but

1306
01:08:56,920 --> 01:09:01,080
Speaker 1: it was um. It was reiterated by Steve Ronnella and

1307
01:09:01,120 --> 01:09:05,400
Speaker 1: Remy Warren on the Meat Eater podcast a few weeks back.

1308
01:09:05,400 --> 01:09:07,479
Speaker 1: They were talking about this. They were answering listener questions

1309
01:09:07,479 --> 01:09:11,320
Speaker 1: on their podcast, Steve's Podcast, and um, somebody had asked,

1310
01:09:11,320 --> 01:09:13,280
Speaker 1: you know, how do you go from being a Midwesterner

1311
01:09:13,320 --> 01:09:17,080
Speaker 1: to physically prepare for your first mountain hunt? And they

1312
01:09:17,080 --> 01:09:18,720
Speaker 1: were talking about the fact that you see all these

1313
01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:21,639
Speaker 1: people like you just said on Instagram who are lifting

1314
01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:23,960
Speaker 1: weights and try and get ripped. And they're talking about

1315
01:09:24,040 --> 01:09:26,439
Speaker 1: how you know, you know, whatever it is. You know,

1316
01:09:26,479 --> 01:09:29,080
Speaker 1: the people I'm talking about, they're just their necks are

1317
01:09:29,120 --> 01:09:31,120
Speaker 1: bigger than their net goes out past their ears and

1318
01:09:31,160 --> 01:09:33,679
Speaker 1: all this kind of stuff. Um. And they were talking

1319
01:09:33,680 --> 01:09:36,559
Speaker 1: about the fact that you don't need to do that.

1320
01:09:36,560 --> 01:09:38,240
Speaker 1: That's not the kind of thing that's really gonna help

1321
01:09:38,240 --> 01:09:41,120
Speaker 1: you on an elk hunt or something. Um. A lot

1322
01:09:41,120 --> 01:09:43,640
Speaker 1: of that stuff way overkill. You're wasting your time on

1323
01:09:43,720 --> 01:09:47,360
Speaker 1: certain things and kind of your the the oom muscle

1324
01:09:47,400 --> 01:09:48,840
Speaker 1: groups and stuff that make you look good in the

1325
01:09:48,840 --> 01:09:51,600
Speaker 1: beach aren't really gonna be what's gonna matter in the

1326
01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:54,000
Speaker 1: mountains when you're hunting elk. And they said the most

1327
01:09:54,000 --> 01:09:56,200
Speaker 1: important thing you can do. And these are guys that

1328
01:09:56,240 --> 01:10:00,000
Speaker 1: have hunted and done about West a Ton and now myself,

1329
01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:02,000
Speaker 1: I've done a ton of backpacking and hiking out there,

1330
01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:04,679
Speaker 1: and I've hunted now four or five years out there. Um,

1331
01:10:04,720 --> 01:10:06,400
Speaker 1: I think the very most important thing to do. And

1332
01:10:06,439 --> 01:10:10,640
Speaker 1: what they said to was just put a pack on

1333
01:10:10,680 --> 01:10:14,280
Speaker 1: your back and walk a ship ton. Yeah, and just

1334
01:10:14,360 --> 01:10:16,840
Speaker 1: do that a lot leading up to it. Where are

1335
01:10:16,840 --> 01:10:19,360
Speaker 1: your hiking boots? Put a heavy pack on your back

1336
01:10:19,479 --> 01:10:22,120
Speaker 1: and just walk, whether it be on a treadmill incline,

1337
01:10:22,280 --> 01:10:24,240
Speaker 1: or whether it be up and down the twenty hill

1338
01:10:24,280 --> 01:10:27,920
Speaker 1: behind your house or whatever it is. Nothing can simulate

1339
01:10:28,560 --> 01:10:30,280
Speaker 1: that type of thing and prepare you for that type

1340
01:10:30,280 --> 01:10:32,559
Speaker 1: of thing than just actually doing it over and over

1341
01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:35,759
Speaker 1: doing a bunch of squads or leg lifts or whatever.

1342
01:10:36,520 --> 01:10:44,120
Speaker 1: That's help. But just walk, walk where a pack and

1343
01:10:42,960 --> 01:10:46,360
Speaker 1: uh and and don't get too focused on making your

1344
01:10:46,400 --> 01:10:50,519
Speaker 1: packs look good. Dan, Right, Well, I was going more

1345
01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:54,680
Speaker 1: for the glutes. Selfies in my glutes and uh, my

1346
01:10:54,800 --> 01:10:57,240
Speaker 1: lower abs, I need my lower abs needs some work,

1347
01:10:57,720 --> 01:11:04,160
Speaker 1: so I I don't know to say that, but it

1348
01:11:04,200 --> 01:11:06,639
Speaker 1: doesn't matter, but that's that's my goal. I just need

1349
01:11:06,680 --> 01:11:11,880
Speaker 1: to get in better shape. And you know, and yeah,

1350
01:11:12,200 --> 01:11:14,280
Speaker 1: you know, doing that is right, but I need to

1351
01:11:14,280 --> 01:11:19,960
Speaker 1: lose weight to and because pounds our pounds, right, and

1352
01:11:20,080 --> 01:11:22,639
Speaker 1: pounds on my gut or pounds on my knees and

1353
01:11:22,640 --> 01:11:25,280
Speaker 1: and and pounds on my legs that I don't necessarily

1354
01:11:25,280 --> 01:11:27,519
Speaker 1: need to be carrying, you know, while I'm up in

1355
01:11:27,560 --> 01:11:31,960
Speaker 1: the mountains, so I need to drop some LB's too. Yeah, man,

1356
01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:35,479
Speaker 1: I think so many people, you know, plan this whole

1357
01:11:35,600 --> 01:11:38,080
Speaker 1: hunt going out west or whatever it is, and they

1358
01:11:38,160 --> 01:11:40,960
Speaker 1: put so much money and time and everything, but if

1359
01:11:41,000 --> 01:11:44,080
Speaker 1: you don't physically prepare for it, you know what in

1360
01:11:44,080 --> 01:11:46,320
Speaker 1: the world to do? Prepare with the money and the

1361
01:11:46,360 --> 01:11:48,200
Speaker 1: time and the gear and all that kind of stuff,

1362
01:11:48,600 --> 01:11:51,040
Speaker 1: because you know, as you saw, that's going to be

1363
01:11:51,040 --> 01:11:53,679
Speaker 1: a limiting factor for most people. Can you just hoof

1364
01:11:53,720 --> 01:11:56,240
Speaker 1: it up the next hill? Can you survive it? It's

1365
01:11:56,240 --> 01:12:03,040
Speaker 1: not easy? Nope. Other than that. Man like, so, I

1366
01:12:03,080 --> 01:12:08,719
Speaker 1: got this little idea in my head, and uh, my goal,

1367
01:12:08,840 --> 01:12:11,960
Speaker 1: and this might be a two thou seventeen eighteen type deal,

1368
01:12:12,680 --> 01:12:19,360
Speaker 1: is to find and buy enough property to be to

1369
01:12:19,520 --> 01:12:27,559
Speaker 1: get my second Iowa landowner's tag. That's exciting. Yes, sorry ahead,

1370
01:12:27,640 --> 01:12:29,479
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, can you can you adjust that

1371
01:12:29,920 --> 01:12:33,160
Speaker 1: just a little bit? What do you mean adjusted? Adjust

1372
01:12:33,160 --> 01:12:37,120
Speaker 1: that goal just a little bit? So find and buy

1373
01:12:37,320 --> 01:12:40,680
Speaker 1: enough property so you can get a landowner's tag and

1374
01:12:40,760 --> 01:12:45,479
Speaker 1: have enough room for your friend Mark to hunt. I'll

1375
01:12:45,479 --> 01:12:47,680
Speaker 1: tell you what if I could, If I could, I

1376
01:12:47,680 --> 01:12:50,160
Speaker 1: would The cool thing that the cool thing is is

1377
01:12:50,280 --> 01:12:54,240
Speaker 1: I'm literally right now, over the past couple of months,

1378
01:12:54,320 --> 01:12:57,400
Speaker 1: I've been kind of looking at different little parcels here

1379
01:12:57,439 --> 01:13:02,160
Speaker 1: and there that or or certain areas that I've hunted

1380
01:13:02,160 --> 01:13:06,800
Speaker 1: in the past that maybe just odd parcels where I

1381
01:13:06,800 --> 01:13:09,559
Speaker 1: could break it off make sure that that parcel gets

1382
01:13:09,600 --> 01:13:13,320
Speaker 1: an easement right, you know, through apart property and only

1383
01:13:13,439 --> 01:13:18,559
Speaker 1: by like four acres, but they're the right four acres,

1384
01:13:18,560 --> 01:13:22,080
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So, um, so i'd have

1385
01:13:22,160 --> 01:13:25,719
Speaker 1: permission on one acre, you'd have permission on the four acres,

1386
01:13:25,960 --> 01:13:28,839
Speaker 1: but you might be we might be two trees apart,

1387
01:13:29,680 --> 01:13:33,200
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I like talking, Yeah, t

1388
01:13:33,680 --> 01:13:35,640
Speaker 1: a buck comes by and two people shoot it at

1389
01:13:35,680 --> 01:13:38,080
Speaker 1: the same time. Hey, Dann, you see that buck over there.

1390
01:13:40,800 --> 01:13:44,200
Speaker 1: That's exciting though, man, that's really exciting. Yeah. So you know,

1391
01:13:44,280 --> 01:13:46,600
Speaker 1: and when I was talking about hey, remind me to

1392
01:13:46,640 --> 01:13:49,000
Speaker 1: talk about what we were talking about later so we

1393
01:13:49,040 --> 01:13:51,360
Speaker 1: can talk about it. Oh, when we were talking about

1394
01:13:51,360 --> 01:13:55,600
Speaker 1: what you were going to talk about? Yeah that Yeah,

1395
01:13:55,720 --> 01:14:01,720
Speaker 1: So like leading into that would be you know, you know,

1396
01:14:01,880 --> 01:14:04,679
Speaker 1: chopping down some trees, getting it real thick and nasty

1397
01:14:04,800 --> 01:14:07,840
Speaker 1: and doing you know, some timber stand improvement for those areas,

1398
01:14:07,920 --> 01:14:11,640
Speaker 1: to just increase turn that four acres into basically a

1399
01:14:11,720 --> 01:14:16,360
Speaker 1: sanctuary for for deer, and then just let it set

1400
01:14:16,479 --> 01:14:21,679
Speaker 1: until it's the times right, you know. So that that

1401
01:14:22,000 --> 01:14:25,280
Speaker 1: is kind of it's nothing really too much to elaborate on.

1402
01:14:25,320 --> 01:14:28,280
Speaker 1: It's just financial planning on my part from from here

1403
01:14:28,320 --> 01:14:33,960
Speaker 1: on out. And then the other thing that the last

1404
01:14:34,040 --> 01:14:36,800
Speaker 1: thing that I really want to focus on in two

1405
01:14:36,800 --> 01:14:46,320
Speaker 1: thousand and seventeen is focus on being a killer, right.

1406
01:14:47,080 --> 01:14:52,840
Speaker 1: And I'm I don't want to get drop crazy, out

1407
01:14:52,840 --> 01:14:57,280
Speaker 1: of control nervous when a big buck comes comes by.

1408
01:14:57,360 --> 01:14:59,240
Speaker 1: I don't want to get that buck fever. I want

1409
01:14:59,280 --> 01:15:02,519
Speaker 1: to get excited um and I don't want to lose

1410
01:15:02,560 --> 01:15:05,680
Speaker 1: that whole quote unquote spiritual side that I feel I

1411
01:15:05,760 --> 01:15:09,040
Speaker 1: have to hunting, you know, the enjoying the nature and

1412
01:15:09,040 --> 01:15:12,800
Speaker 1: and going after a big buck. But I think part

1413
01:15:12,880 --> 01:15:18,559
Speaker 1: of hunting is being a predator and being a killer.

1414
01:15:18,960 --> 01:15:22,680
Speaker 1: You know, does a mountain lion or a bobcat or

1415
01:15:22,720 --> 01:15:25,880
Speaker 1: an eagle get nervous when they go after their prey? No,

1416
01:15:25,960 --> 01:15:30,640
Speaker 1: they don't. They would not survive as as a species

1417
01:15:30,800 --> 01:15:34,080
Speaker 1: if they got nervous when they were attacking their food,

1418
01:15:34,840 --> 01:15:36,720
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So I feel that I

1419
01:15:36,760 --> 01:15:38,960
Speaker 1: need to get a little bit more of an animal

1420
01:15:39,000 --> 01:15:44,320
Speaker 1: instinct and just for for for that period of time

1421
01:15:44,320 --> 01:15:48,120
Speaker 1: when they're in shooting range to become a killer. Yeah,

1422
01:15:48,240 --> 01:15:53,679
Speaker 1: to focused, and you know, you know it's like, hey,

1423
01:15:53,720 --> 01:15:58,560
Speaker 1: this like almost like my life depends on it. Yeah,

1424
01:15:58,800 --> 01:16:02,920
Speaker 1: that moment of truth man, that's uh yeah, it's no

1425
01:16:03,040 --> 01:16:05,800
Speaker 1: easy way to figure it out. It just whether it's

1426
01:16:05,840 --> 01:16:11,559
Speaker 1: experience or practice or whatever. But yeah, yeah, I agree

1427
01:16:11,560 --> 01:16:13,040
Speaker 1: with you there. I think we can all continue to

1428
01:16:13,040 --> 01:16:16,160
Speaker 1: get better there and then that's it for me. Man,

1429
01:16:16,200 --> 01:16:18,639
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do some tweaks to my gear this year.

1430
01:16:18,720 --> 01:16:23,640
Speaker 1: But you know, like I said, this year was satisfactory

1431
01:16:23,680 --> 01:16:25,639
Speaker 1: for me. I had a blast doing what I do

1432
01:16:26,080 --> 01:16:29,040
Speaker 1: and it never really stops. You know, the summer stuff,

1433
01:16:29,400 --> 01:16:32,639
Speaker 1: the the you know, setting up tree stands, the hunting.

1434
01:16:32,920 --> 01:16:35,240
Speaker 1: You know, I got shut hunting season. Look forward to

1435
01:16:35,720 --> 01:16:38,320
Speaker 1: two thousand and sixteen was an awesome year. You know,

1436
01:16:38,360 --> 01:16:42,440
Speaker 1: Turkey hunting is coming up, then that's going to transition

1437
01:16:42,479 --> 01:16:45,479
Speaker 1: into the summer stuff, and then I got an elk

1438
01:16:45,520 --> 01:16:47,360
Speaker 1: hunt and then the next thing you know, man, I'm

1439
01:16:47,400 --> 01:16:50,040
Speaker 1: sitting in a tree stand in uh In, Iowa. Again.

1440
01:16:51,560 --> 01:16:55,640
Speaker 1: So three years ago, Yeah, you were filming all your

1441
01:16:55,720 --> 01:16:59,040
Speaker 1: hunts and you filmed your buddy Ryan iberg Ye. Last

1442
01:16:59,120 --> 01:17:03,200
Speaker 1: year I think you filmed a little bit correct. Um. Yeah,

1443
01:17:03,360 --> 01:17:07,840
Speaker 1: last year, I filmed myself shoot a dough Really I

1444
01:17:07,880 --> 01:17:13,000
Speaker 1: think that, and uh, I filmed myself a couple of

1445
01:17:13,000 --> 01:17:15,519
Speaker 1: buck encounters. Yet. Yeah, so this year, though you didn't

1446
01:17:15,520 --> 01:17:18,360
Speaker 1: film anything, I didn't even I didn't even bring a

1447
01:17:18,400 --> 01:17:20,920
Speaker 1: camera with me. So let's talk about that. How did

1448
01:17:20,960 --> 01:17:22,479
Speaker 1: it feel this year for the first time in a

1449
01:17:22,520 --> 01:17:25,320
Speaker 1: long time not filming your hunts were You're glad you

1450
01:17:25,360 --> 01:17:31,559
Speaker 1: did it? Do you miss it? Don't miss Nope? Man,

1451
01:17:33,200 --> 01:17:38,760
Speaker 1: it takes for me, it takes away. Yeah, yeah I could.

1452
01:17:38,840 --> 01:17:40,759
Speaker 1: I could have that some of that stuff on film

1453
01:17:40,800 --> 01:17:43,320
Speaker 1: to share with my friends, but it's in my head.

1454
01:17:43,760 --> 01:17:46,639
Speaker 1: I don't hunt for anybody. I'm not a hunter because

1455
01:17:46,720 --> 01:17:48,880
Speaker 1: I need to be a hunter. I'm I'm a I'm

1456
01:17:48,880 --> 01:17:54,120
Speaker 1: a hunter because I subconsciously maybe need But man, I

1457
01:17:54,640 --> 01:17:58,080
Speaker 1: I do it for me. I'm not the podcast. Yeah,

1458
01:17:58,080 --> 01:18:01,720
Speaker 1: that's for other people. Um the I think for a

1459
01:18:01,760 --> 01:18:03,839
Speaker 1: while there, when I was doing a lot of filming,

1460
01:18:04,320 --> 01:18:07,679
Speaker 1: it became less fun and more work, and I kind

1461
01:18:07,680 --> 01:18:10,320
Speaker 1: of was like getting turned off by it. But now

1462
01:18:10,800 --> 01:18:13,679
Speaker 1: I've put that camera down now for two years, and

1463
01:18:15,800 --> 01:18:19,640
Speaker 1: it's it's awesome. We'll like now, Well, if someday I

1464
01:18:19,680 --> 01:18:23,719
Speaker 1: get a cameraman and you know, start documenting my stories again,

1465
01:18:23,800 --> 01:18:26,680
Speaker 1: my my season again. Hell yeah, that's okay, But I'm

1466
01:18:26,680 --> 01:18:31,920
Speaker 1: never going to probably film myself again. Interesting, I can understand.

1467
01:18:32,000 --> 01:18:34,280
Speaker 1: I can understand why you feel that way. I certainly

1468
01:18:34,600 --> 01:18:37,479
Speaker 1: have had times where I thought that too. Yeah, And

1469
01:18:37,479 --> 01:18:39,840
Speaker 1: it's it's interesting to hear how you feel after, you know,

1470
01:18:40,080 --> 01:18:43,240
Speaker 1: I've always thought, after beginning to film on my hunts

1471
01:18:43,240 --> 01:18:46,720
Speaker 1: and everything, that it would be a major bummer, not

1472
01:18:47,240 --> 01:18:49,040
Speaker 1: you know, now that I'm so used to having this

1473
01:18:49,080 --> 01:18:51,400
Speaker 1: stuff to look back on, Like my favorite thing is

1474
01:18:51,479 --> 01:18:54,439
Speaker 1: just being able to look at the film again and

1475
01:18:54,720 --> 01:18:57,559
Speaker 1: see that encounter again, or show my buddy this deer

1476
01:18:58,560 --> 01:19:00,400
Speaker 1: or whatever. I think that's what I would be the most.

1477
01:19:00,439 --> 01:19:03,760
Speaker 1: I've always wondered, you know, if I would miss that

1478
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Speaker 1: too much if I gave it up, Because there's certainly

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01:19:05,600 --> 01:19:07,800
Speaker 1: times when I just what I dislike about it is

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01:19:07,840 --> 01:19:09,840
Speaker 1: having all the gear and just having to deal with

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01:19:09,880 --> 01:19:11,360
Speaker 1: that when you're out there, instead of being able to

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01:19:11,400 --> 01:19:14,240
Speaker 1: just climb into a tree, sit down and relax and

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01:19:14,320 --> 01:19:18,800
Speaker 1: hunt um and be focus on the shot when it comes,

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01:19:18,840 --> 01:19:21,559
Speaker 1: instead of being focused on turning on the stupid camera,

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01:19:21,600 --> 01:19:23,880
Speaker 1: adjusting that, making sure the DearS in the frame. Then

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01:19:23,960 --> 01:19:25,800
Speaker 1: get your bolt, then all this other stuff. I mean,

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01:19:26,280 --> 01:19:29,360
Speaker 1: there's a lot of reasons not to film. Um, so

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01:19:29,400 --> 01:19:31,720
Speaker 1: it's interesting to hear that your you know, your experience there.

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01:19:33,160 --> 01:19:35,519
Speaker 1: So you mentioned you had one more thing you wanted

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01:19:35,520 --> 01:19:40,120
Speaker 1: to talk about for two seventeen. Oh yeah, so you know,

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01:19:40,160 --> 01:19:41,960
Speaker 1: I talked about the changes I want to make with

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01:19:42,120 --> 01:19:44,439
Speaker 1: the whole holy Field hunt. I talked a little bit

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01:19:44,960 --> 01:19:47,000
Speaker 1: about the fact I want to have more places to

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01:19:47,080 --> 01:19:49,759
Speaker 1: hunt in general, um, you know, just having more options.

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01:19:49,800 --> 01:19:51,320
Speaker 1: All that. I think the one other thing in two

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01:19:51,320 --> 01:19:55,080
Speaker 1: thousand seventeen um and something I want to continue to

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01:19:55,120 --> 01:19:56,840
Speaker 1: do more of in the future. And I kind of

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01:19:56,880 --> 01:19:58,800
Speaker 1: touch touched on this a little bit in the past

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01:19:58,800 --> 01:20:02,639
Speaker 1: two but publicly, I want to hunt public land more

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01:20:03,479 --> 01:20:08,320
Speaker 1: and and a bigger picture, I want to focus more

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01:20:09,320 --> 01:20:14,679
Speaker 1: of what I'm doing in my career um around public

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01:20:14,760 --> 01:20:17,800
Speaker 1: land because in addition to being a deer hunter, as

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01:20:17,840 --> 01:20:20,840
Speaker 1: you know and many of our listeners know, my other

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01:20:20,880 --> 01:20:24,960
Speaker 1: passion in life is just wilderness and being out in

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01:20:25,000 --> 01:20:28,719
Speaker 1: the mountains or the prairies or river valleys or whatever,

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01:20:28,800 --> 01:20:31,439
Speaker 1: being out in these big, wide open public places. I mean,

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01:20:31,479 --> 01:20:35,160
Speaker 1: I I live and die for that stuff. And we've

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01:20:35,200 --> 01:20:41,040
Speaker 1: talked about there's increasingly more and more threats to these places. Yep.

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01:20:42,160 --> 01:20:45,080
Speaker 1: And I'm kind of transitioning a little bit in um

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01:20:45,120 --> 01:20:48,080
Speaker 1: in just like what my goals are personally. And so

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01:20:48,400 --> 01:20:50,240
Speaker 1: while I want to continue doing what I'm doing now,

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01:20:50,280 --> 01:20:53,439
Speaker 1: I also want to find more ways to try to

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01:20:53,640 --> 01:20:56,080
Speaker 1: lend a hand if I can to making sure that

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01:20:56,080 --> 01:20:57,880
Speaker 1: these places are there in the future for people like

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01:20:57,920 --> 01:21:01,080
Speaker 1: you and made hunt or for our kids, um, whether

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01:21:01,120 --> 01:21:03,320
Speaker 1: it be the hunt or hike or fish or whatever

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01:21:03,360 --> 01:21:05,360
Speaker 1: it is. So I want to hunt in these types

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01:21:05,360 --> 01:21:08,360
Speaker 1: of places more often because it's a challenge. It's very different,

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01:21:08,439 --> 01:21:12,280
Speaker 1: it's new, and I'm the type that I enjoy hunting

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01:21:12,320 --> 01:21:14,080
Speaker 1: some of the places over and over again, Like I

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01:21:14,120 --> 01:21:16,200
Speaker 1: have places I've hunted over and over and I enjoy that,

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01:21:16,479 --> 01:21:19,800
Speaker 1: but I also constantly need a new challenge. I love

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01:21:19,840 --> 01:21:23,240
Speaker 1: the figuring out part of things. So like in Ohio,

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01:21:23,400 --> 01:21:26,479
Speaker 1: for example, I like hunting our spot down Ohio, but

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01:21:26,600 --> 01:21:28,920
Speaker 1: I figured it out. There's nothing to figure out anymore,

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01:21:29,400 --> 01:21:32,360
Speaker 1: um just because of how big it's. It's not very big,

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01:21:32,439 --> 01:21:34,960
Speaker 1: so there's only a couple options really when it comes

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01:21:35,040 --> 01:21:37,160
Speaker 1: right down to it, UM, And I know if I

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01:21:37,240 --> 01:21:39,040
Speaker 1: hunt it during the rut if you put in enough

1530
01:21:39,040 --> 01:21:41,280
Speaker 1: time and like one of two locations, and if you

1531
01:21:41,360 --> 01:21:43,960
Speaker 1: do it in the right wind and stuff, either either

1532
01:21:44,000 --> 01:21:45,800
Speaker 1: a buck's gonna come through that you're gonna get a shot,

1533
01:21:45,880 --> 01:21:48,760
Speaker 1: or it's just not gonna happen because they're not there. Um,

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01:21:48,840 --> 01:21:50,479
Speaker 1: there's not a whole lot of figuring out left to

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01:21:50,520 --> 01:21:52,760
Speaker 1: do there. What I've enjoyed about the public land and

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01:21:52,840 --> 01:21:55,920
Speaker 1: hunting new places is the going into something from ground

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01:21:56,000 --> 01:21:58,000
Speaker 1: zero and and trying to wrap your head around it

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01:21:58,040 --> 01:22:01,840
Speaker 1: and adjusting and scheming and all that stuff. So public

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01:22:01,880 --> 01:22:04,240
Speaker 1: land is a lot of fun and it's really important,

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01:22:04,439 --> 01:22:07,240
Speaker 1: and I think, um, in two thousand seventeen, I've got

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01:22:07,280 --> 01:22:10,800
Speaker 1: some stuff I'm working on that I think hopefully will

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01:22:10,840 --> 01:22:14,160
Speaker 1: be interesting and helpful on both of those fronts. So

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01:22:14,160 --> 01:22:16,519
Speaker 1: so that's kind of what I'm looking forward to next year,

1544
01:22:16,560 --> 01:22:19,320
Speaker 1: is doing some cool stuff to get holy Field and

1545
01:22:19,360 --> 01:22:21,640
Speaker 1: exploring this whole public land thing in a lot of

1546
01:22:21,640 --> 01:22:25,439
Speaker 1: different ways. So that's where it's at. We got some

1547
01:22:25,479 --> 01:22:28,559
Speaker 1: work to do. We do, we do, but it's gonna

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01:22:28,560 --> 01:22:30,799
Speaker 1: be good. It's gonna be good. Dear dude, I'm excited

1549
01:22:30,840 --> 01:22:34,479
Speaker 1: for you and for me. Did ooh well, uh, this

1550
01:22:34,560 --> 01:22:37,040
Speaker 1: is our last. This is our last podcast, two thousand sixteen,

1551
01:22:37,320 --> 01:22:41,360
Speaker 1: So audios, two thousand sixteen. It's been real. It's been real.

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01:22:41,560 --> 01:22:44,880
Speaker 1: It's been real good. And uh, thank you Dan for

1553
01:22:44,920 --> 01:22:46,880
Speaker 1: sticking around with me for another year. And for everyone

1554
01:22:46,920 --> 01:22:50,760
Speaker 1: listening to It's not always easy. I don't think. Yeah,

1555
01:22:50,880 --> 01:22:54,680
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, man, we Uh there's a lot

1556
01:22:54,720 --> 01:22:56,639
Speaker 1: of work. First off, to the listeners, there's a lot

1557
01:22:56,640 --> 01:23:00,280
Speaker 1: of work that goes into this podcast. So you know,

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01:23:00,479 --> 01:23:04,200
Speaker 1: if for anything, Mark, thank you very much for organizing it,

1559
01:23:04,560 --> 01:23:07,760
Speaker 1: for putting it together, you know, for the opportunity to

1560
01:23:07,760 --> 01:23:10,559
Speaker 1: be your co host, and as a listener of the podcast,

1561
01:23:10,600 --> 01:23:12,240
Speaker 1: I just want to say thank you for the content.

1562
01:23:12,720 --> 01:23:16,320
Speaker 1: And uh, thanks to all the listeners out there who

1563
01:23:16,720 --> 01:23:19,479
Speaker 1: email us and ask us questions. Now we may not

1564
01:23:19,520 --> 01:23:22,679
Speaker 1: always answer them, but thank you for guys for the support.

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01:23:22,680 --> 01:23:25,040
Speaker 1: Because without you know, I don't know if I'm stealing

1566
01:23:25,040 --> 01:23:29,920
Speaker 1: your thunder. But because of you guys, Wired to Hunt

1567
01:23:30,200 --> 01:23:34,479
Speaker 1: podcast is possible. So whatever, I echo everything you said

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01:23:34,479 --> 01:23:40,280
Speaker 1: one and uh. With that, I'd say, let's shut this

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01:23:40,360 --> 01:23:44,599
Speaker 1: thing down for two thousand sixteen. So big thank you

1570
01:23:44,680 --> 01:23:47,080
Speaker 1: to our partners who helped keep this show on the air,

1571
01:23:47,120 --> 01:23:49,400
Speaker 1: who have been with us here in two thousand and sixteen.

1572
01:23:49,680 --> 01:23:54,440
Speaker 1: Thank you to sit Gear, Redneck Blinds, Hunter Maps, Yetie Coolers, Osonics,

1573
01:23:54,520 --> 01:23:58,120
Speaker 1: Carbon Express, MAYBN Optics in the White Tail Institute of

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01:23:58,160 --> 01:24:01,840
Speaker 1: North America. And finally, as Dan said, thank you all

1575
01:24:01,920 --> 01:24:05,000
Speaker 1: for listening today and all of this year. We appreciate

1576
01:24:05,040 --> 01:24:08,080
Speaker 1: you being a part of this community so so so

1577
01:24:08,080 --> 01:24:11,280
Speaker 1: so much so until two thousand and seventeen. Had a

1578
01:24:11,400 --> 01:24:17,280
Speaker 1: very happy New Year, and stay wired to hunt h