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Speaker 3: sure we're going to be covering that a little bit. Obviously,

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Speaker 3: some college football popping off yesterday as well.

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Speaker 2: Should probably start.

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Speaker 3: With the Detroit Lions, because my mind is still wrapped

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Speaker 3: around what we saw against a division rival, the Green

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Speaker 3: Bay Packers. Dan Campbell's crew, and we have a Detroit

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Speaker 2: Here. I think we have Jared now took.

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Speaker 3: Per Fet He was actually doing a live show in

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Speaker 3: Detroit this week, so we'll get his thoughts on this

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Speaker 3: in a little bit. But Dan Campbell has assembled one

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Speaker 3: of the I want to say, one of the classic

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Speaker 3: types of football teams, smash mouth, hard nosed, hard fought

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Speaker 3: victory in Division twelve, win of the season. And before

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Speaker 3: we get to the college football gyard, I want to

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Speaker 3: get your thoughts on what we saw Thursday night, because.

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Speaker 2: That was that was just beautiful.

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Speaker 3: That's when that's when culture meets buying. That's when players

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Speaker 3: talent meets capable clutch moments.

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Speaker 2: That was football, man.

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Speaker 4: It was beautiful. And I actually was watching the game

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Speaker 4: with Brian. We were watching it in one of the

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Speaker 4: local one of the local watering holes here in Sin City.

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Speaker 4: But when you it's kind of weird because a team

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Speaker 4: you would think, oh, yeah, they're just kind of coasting

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Speaker 4: to the division and you know they already have their

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Speaker 4: site set on the playoffs and bigger and better things.

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Speaker 2: And usually when you get to this.

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Speaker 4: Point, you're twelve and one, the division is pretty much

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Speaker 2: But that's how good the division.

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Speaker 4: They play it like they are in danger of getting

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Speaker 4: knocked down all the way to the five seed if

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Speaker 4: things don't go well for them over these last four weeks.

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Speaker 2: So a lot of work left to be done for

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Speaker 2: the Lions.

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Speaker 4: They are absolutely the best team in the NFL right now,

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Speaker 4: but there's still there's still work to be done.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there absolutely is.

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Speaker 3: It's pretty incredible when you see a coach really sort

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Speaker 3: but also a city, like he's really captured the ethos

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Speaker 3: of Detroit. The Lions. They're about toughness. The Lions. They're about,

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Speaker 3: you know, bringing your lunch pail to work and grinding

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Speaker 3: really been able to do it, not only the way

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Speaker 3: I guess you know, old school football fans love to

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Speaker 3: know it really does match the ethos of that city.

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Speaker 3: What were your thoughts being now on the game we

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Speaker 5: Well, my thoughts were, can we get Josh Jacob's four

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Speaker 2: Oh? That was rough. That was a rough beat for

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Speaker 2: us on this we get four more rushing yards? Rich

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Speaker 5: Jayden reed one target and zero anything? No, God, please, no, no.

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Speaker 2: That was rough.

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Speaker 5: But no, I hear you on the Lions, man, It's

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Speaker 5: like Jared and I actually watched the second half.

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Speaker 2: Of the games. Yeah, it was fun.

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Speaker 5: And I told Jared at one point because the talk

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Speaker 5: before the game was, oh, the Lions have thirteen players

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Speaker 5: defensively on injured reserve and all these injuries, and I'm like,

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Speaker 5: it's some way that makes them even more dangerous because

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Speaker 5: of who their head coaches. I don't care who's on

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Speaker 5: They're gonna fight y'all all game long. They are just

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Speaker 5: we're a different team outdoors. They just have that chip

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Speaker 5: all the time, and it's I swear they're like the

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Speaker 5: Kevin Durant of the NFL. They listen to every negative

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Speaker 5: and they came out and they were just a pain

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Speaker 2: And that's the ultimate compliment. They are just that team.

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Speaker 2: They are.

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Speaker 3: They are They're the ultimate instigator. It's like, yeah, maybe

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Speaker 3: they're a little smaller on the school yard, but they're

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Speaker 3: gonna be scrappier. Maybe they are little hurt here, but

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Speaker 3: they're gonna muck it up and make it their game.

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Speaker 2: Anyways. By the way, yeah go ahead.

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Speaker 5: I was just gonna say, speaking of that, you know,

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Speaker 5: being I don't know, feisty that I'm feeling a little

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Speaker 2: Boy, here we go. I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I don't know if you no, that's not it. I

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Speaker 5: don't know if you want cantankris no to start your

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Speaker 5: know outspoken no to start the show here, but there's

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Speaker 2: We hate it, we need cantakeris no off the top ropes?

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Speaker 2: Here we go.

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Speaker 4: Yes.

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Speaker 5: So cam Ward, the Miami quarterback, one of his quotes was,

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Speaker 5: I really doubt they watch.

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Speaker 2: Tape or not. I mean, we're a twelve ten and

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Speaker 5: He's talking about the college football playoff Committee, right, I

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Speaker 5: really doubt they watch any tape or not. This was

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Speaker 5: similar to Lane Kiffin Ole Miss head coach talking about

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Speaker 5: their number thirteen ranking and the committee said, do you

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Speaker 2: Here's my thing.

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Speaker 5: Okay, this is a common politicking statement of do you

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Speaker 5: actually watch us play? As if that can be the

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Speaker 5: only explanation. Miami and Ole miss find themselves on the

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Speaker 5: It's like, look at ole Miss, Ole Missus lost three

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Speaker 5: games Ole miss You look at their schedule, they lost

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Speaker 5: twenty seven to three. Earlier this year, they.

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Speaker 2: Lost a game.

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Speaker 5: I'm sorry that was that's Miami, Miami. If you look

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Speaker 5: at that. They've lost two of their last three. They've

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Speaker 5: just lost. That's the last thing we remember. They lost

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Speaker 5: to two unranked teams in Georgia Tech and Sirihi. Oh

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Speaker 5: got the twenty seven or three. That's somebody else discounted

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Speaker 5: all that. It's probably Bama that that was the Oklahoma

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Speaker 5: twenty four three. Yeah, yeah, but but but look at

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Speaker 5: losing when they were in and now it's all I

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Speaker 5: don't think the committee watches us what so what really?

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Speaker 5: Really take care of business and stop crying. That's why

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Speaker 5: I have to say to cam Ward and link Kiff, Well, you.

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Speaker 3: Know what's so funny is as we as we discussed

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Speaker 2: You think about that?

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Speaker 4: Jared?

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Speaker 2: I don't know if we can hear Rich right now?

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Speaker 2: You got me here be.

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Speaker 5: And we got some uh we got some technical issues

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Speaker 5: over here. I don't know if Jared or Rich can

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Speaker 5: hear me, but we'll get everything ironed out over here,

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Speaker 5: and uh, you know, get everything squared away. Yeah, hey, yeah,

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Speaker 5: I don't know. Just in case I am. We got

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Speaker 5: six conference championship games today. Ashton genty with two hundred

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Speaker 5: this Georgia Texas rematch. That's gonna be a lot of fun.

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Speaker 5: What does Texas do to write the ship and not

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Speaker 3: I'm going to cut it short here and give my

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Speaker 2: We have.

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Speaker 3: We have politicking going on in college football. You heard

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Speaker 3: briefly what kem Ward was saying. You heard Lane Kiffin

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Speaker 2: Here's the deal.

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Speaker 3: Whether you're Miami, whether you're Old Miss, whether it doesn't

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Speaker 2: Sing for your supper.

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Speaker 3: The reality of college football now is it's become college basketball,

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Speaker 3: and that was my thought when we expanded the postseason

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Speaker 2: Right, this is what it looks like in college basketball.

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Speaker 2: At the end of the season.

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Speaker 3: You have a bunch of teams who are singing for

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Speaker 3: everybody's got their reasons. And guess what, College football is

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Speaker 2: You've got a politic.

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Speaker 3: If you're not top politicking, you're probably not doing a

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Speaker 3: good enough job as a head coach. This is what

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Speaker 3: college basketball coaches have been doing for literally decades now,

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Speaker 3: Sports Radios Countdown to Kickoff and we are We're in

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Speaker 3: Conference Championship Saturday, and behind the scenes, just to peel

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Speaker 2: So here's what we're looking at.

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Speaker 3: Arizona State, the sun Devils ten and two in the

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Speaker 3: Kickoff Sept for noon Eastern time. As soon as we're

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Speaker 2: I'm here. It's Jeny Okay, here we go. We're here,

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Speaker 2: We're all here, We're here. Okay, we have backup.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So Jared, I was just laying out how Arizona State.

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Speaker 2: Really it was what preceded the season.

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Speaker 3: That was the trial and tribulation that overcome a lot

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Speaker 3: And then you have Hiowa State, who had the slump,

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Speaker 4: Arizona State being here is a minor miracle, like I

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Speaker 4: THEOC has done a great job scheming this out where

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, no, I hear you on the three three five.

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Speaker 5: Like you can't have your your nickel and dime defense

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Speaker 5: Iowa State can see that. That's what Listen. These defensive coordinators,

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Speaker 3: Well you have I always stay running this three three five,

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Speaker 3: Now personnel wise, many times you're absolutely right, Brian, they'll

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Speaker 2: The three three five or have in their past.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this is this is gonna be a really interesting

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Speaker 4: The running back room is very productive. Hanson's eleven touchdowns.

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Speaker 5: Who's he throwing the ball to, you know, and does

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Speaker 5: He'll go for it on fourth down at his own thirty.

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Speaker 5: He'll do some crazy things. That is not what Chuck

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Speaker 3: this division or I should say conference, and they have

439
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Speaker 3: soared above all expectations. They started the season with only

440
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Speaker 3: one returning starter on either side of the ball, one

441
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Speaker 3: offensive player and one defensive player. So what Tim Albin

442
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Speaker 3: has been able to do with the Bobcats this season

443
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Speaker 3: is nothing short of a miracle.

444
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Speaker 2: So the same way we're given Dillingham all.

445
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Speaker 3: Of the roses, you gotta give Alban the same at Ohio.

446
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,760
Speaker 3: I mean, the Battle of the Bricks for the championship

447
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Speaker 3: in the MAC. Nobody saw this coming, so it is.

448
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Speaker 3: It is truly, Yes, I agree, I would probably give

449
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Speaker 3: a strong lean toward Miami of Ohio, but I will

450
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Speaker 3: say this, it's been a miracle run for the Bobcats.

451
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Speaker 3: They've done things this season that nobody expected them to

452
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Speaker 3: do all season long.

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Speaker 2: So why not one more? It's sort of my.

454
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Speaker 3: Feeling heading into this weekend's game in the MAC. Why

455
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Speaker 3: not one more for the Bobcats.

456
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Speaker 4: Yeah, they lost a ton. The Rourk kid, of course,

457
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:36,359
Speaker 4: came over from Indiana, came over to Indiana and that

458
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:40,480
Speaker 4: was part of the big exodus with this Ohio team.

459
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Speaker 4: There's something about this game, though, that does not agree

460
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Speaker 4: with the Bobcats. So Miami Ohio won the earlier matchup.

461
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Speaker 4: It was actually a blowout for most of the game.

462
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Speaker 4: Ohio trail twenty four to six. Their offense not really

463
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Speaker 4: built to come from behind, and they lost the game

464
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Speaker 4: by ten. It was I think it was like an

465
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Speaker 4: October game. But Ohio is this is the fifth time

466
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Speaker 4: they've been in this game in the last twenty years,

467
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Speaker 4: and they're zero to five in this game. Like, they

468
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Speaker 4: cannot win this MAC title game. They cannot get over

469
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Speaker 4: the hump and win this game. There is some kind

470
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Speaker 4: of block in terms of Bobcats and MAC championships. I

471
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Speaker 4: don't know what it is. I don't know if there's

472
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Speaker 4: something in the water in Detroit. I don't even know

473
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Speaker 4: if all the games have been played in Detroit. Does

474
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Speaker 4: it matter. They have not fared well in this game.

475
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Speaker 4: But Rich nailed it. I mean, just the returning starters,

476
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Speaker 4: very low. Alvin.

477
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Speaker 2: The win total was six and a half.

478
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Speaker 4: Did a really good job kind of mustering the troops

479
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Speaker 4: and getting them up early. And yeah, the schedule wasn't great,

480
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Speaker 4: like the non conference wash they lost to South or

481
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Speaker 4: they beat South, that lost of Syracuse, beat Morgan State,

482
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:50,120
Speaker 4: got absolutely destroyed by Kentucky, and Kentucky won one game

483
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Speaker 4: in the SEC ironically overall miss But I think this

484
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Speaker 4: is Miami, Ohio's game.

485
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Speaker 5: I do kind of funny. I mentioned Chuck Martin is

486
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Speaker 5: the anti Dan Campbell. Like you said, Jared, it's at

487
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Speaker 5: Ford Field.

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Speaker 2: Morning. Yeah, all right, well we're out of control here.

489
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Speaker 5: We got maction and the fun Belt in the same

490
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Speaker 5: same segment. Here because we got Marshall taking on Louisiana. Now,

491
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,200
Speaker 5: this is at Louisiana, right, this is the only conference

492
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Speaker 5: championship game on the road because everything else is at

493
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Speaker 5: a neutral site. But Marshall at Louisiana. This is a

494
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Speaker 5: crazy stat. So Marshall, they're eleven and one against the

495
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 5: spread this season, eleven and one ats. Yet they are

496
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Speaker 5: consistently out gained and out gained by a lot. It's

497
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Speaker 5: like doubled up sometimes, you know, like not within two

498
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:48,879
Speaker 5: hundred yards of their opponents, and yet they're nine and

499
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Speaker 5: three and eleven and one against the number. It's pretty

500
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 5: crazy right there. But Louisiana, they can't stop the rush.

501
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Speaker 2: That's the thing.

502
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Speaker 5: They cannot stop the rush. Marshall should have some success

503
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Speaker 5: on the ground. Their quarterback Braylan Braxton, he transferred from Tulsa,

504
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 5: so he can get it done with his legs as well.

505
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 5: Something to keep an eye on here. I love this

506
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 5: matchup where it's like these teams, right, like Marshall, they

507
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 5: keep getting out gained and you might keep thinking, Okay,

508
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 5: this next game is when they lose, and they've only

509
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:26,920
Speaker 5: lost three times, so I'm curious if this comes back

510
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 5: to bite them against the raging Cajun's today in the

511
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 5: battle for the Fun Belt here.

512
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

513
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Speaker 3: Yeah, listen, Marshall is probably one of the most underrated

514
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 3: teams in the country because of the number you just

515
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 3: touted there, the fact that they are you know, what

516
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:47,400
Speaker 3: is it eleven? They're eleven and one against the number

517
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 3: they were expected to be. They were in eighth place

518
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,199
Speaker 3: in terms of odds to win the Sun Belt and

519
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:56,120
Speaker 3: here they are.

520
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 2: Playing for it.

521
00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:00,239
Speaker 3: It's it's an incredible story for the Thundering I heard.

522
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 3: A big reason for all this success is Mike Green,

523
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Speaker 3: who is named the twenty twenty four Player of the

524
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:09,159
Speaker 3: Year in the Sunbelt, who screams off the edge. He

525
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 3: harasses quarterbacks. I had the number in front of me.

526
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:13,679
Speaker 3: Let me see if I could pull it up. Okay,

527
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 3: check this out. Sixty quarterback pressures this season. He's led

528
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 3: the country with sixteen sacks.

529
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 2: Wow. Okay, So, so Marshall's pretty good at pass coverage.

530
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Speaker 4: Yeah.

531
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Speaker 2: Well, here's why, Mike Green.

532
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,680
Speaker 3: Because we have a guy screaming off the edge of

533
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Speaker 3: the defense, absolutely harassing every opposing quarterback you face. It

534
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 3: makes your defensive backfield look pretty good because you're forcing

535
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 3: early throws. You're forcing bad decisions. You're forcing a guy

536
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 3: to only aim for one side of the football field

537
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 3: because he's running for his life, so it limits the

538
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 3: routes he can throw to. So this edge rusher has

539
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 3: really changed the fates and fortunes for this team.

540
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Speaker 2: Now.

541
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 3: Look, no one man can play, you know, all sixty

542
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 3: minutes for all twenty two players offensively and defensively. But

543
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 3: he is a game changer. He's a game wrecker. So

544
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 3: be looking out for Marshall's defensive end to impact this

545
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 3: game in the Sunbell Championship.

546
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Speaker 4: I think a big factor in this game is their coach,

547
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 4: Charles Hoff Marshall's coach. One thing I learned from last

548
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 4: night's game between Tulane and Army is when your head

549
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 4: coach is flirting with other programs, it tends to have

550
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 4: an impact in these spots. Tulane, maybe they didn't have

551
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 4: anything left in the tank after the Memphis game last week,

552
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 4: and it was inevitable that Army was gonna just come

553
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 4: out there and squeeze the life out of them. But

554
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 4: Tulane looked really flat. Charles Huff is significantly flirting with

555
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 4: Southern mess and there's other jobs out there. This will

556
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 4: likely be his last game today, or maybe he'll coach

557
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 4: the bowl game, depending on how those you know, semantic shakeout.

558
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:56,959
Speaker 4: But I think this will be it for him, and

559
00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 4: I don't know what impact that has the rest of

560
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 4: his team. Brian, you mentioned the yards for play and

561
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 4: how they keep covering despite the fact that they're out gained.

562
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 4: That tends to catch up with you eventually, and when

563
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 4: it does catch up with you, it tends to catch

564
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 4: up with you with a thud. And this game has

565
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 4: been a hillatious blowout. There's been five sun Belt titles,

566
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Speaker 4: all five of them have been decided by seven or more.

567
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 4: The last two games, Troy has just cake walked ninety

568
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Speaker 4: four forty nine combined scoring margin in the last two

569
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Speaker 4: sun Belt titles by the Trojans. Speaking of John summerw

570
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 4: ironically enough goes from Troy to Tulane and now obviously

571
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 4: they're gonna move on from there. But I think Lafayette

572
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 4: is very live here to give you one of those

573
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Speaker 4: two touchdown plus wins.

574
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 2: If the ball rolls.

575
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Speaker 4: Down the hill. The quarterback Chandler Fields is a backup,

576
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Speaker 4: and I think that's why maybe you're getting a little

577
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Speaker 4: bit of a discount. Frankly on Lafayette Wolridge the starter

578
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 4: played well earlier this year. Now it's Fields, who's a

579
00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 4: very experienced backup. I think the Cajuns are the side here,

580
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 4: I really do. I think it's tough the distractions of

581
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 4: him kind of going to other programs and this other

582
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 4: miss job, and just the fact that this game has

583
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Speaker 4: kind of been a blowout. I would not be shocked

584
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 4: if if Lafayette wins and they win big.

585
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:19,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, hey he could be right. Yeah, we'll see if

586
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 5: that's the case over here. And I like what you

587
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 5: had to say, Rich, where if you have this pass rushing,

588
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 5: you know, like RoboCop, I could be Sauce Gardner. You've

589
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 5: got that guy harassing the quarterback. You know, it helps

590
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:36,800
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Speaker 5: a schedule here with six conference championship games, so we're

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Speaker 5: gonna hit you in another direction. It's kind of like

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Speaker 5: Iowa State's three three five defense. You know, maybe they

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Speaker 5: change up the look a little bit based on the

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Speaker 5: matchup in scatteredbo Right there, I.

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Speaker 2: Will have that for you. Coming up.

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Speaker 5: Okay, the platter has a different theme this week, Jared,

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Speaker 5: why don't you lay it out for us, Buddy Tuddy

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Speaker 5: time Maybe?

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Obviously, underdogs are a little scarce today and going forward

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Speaker 4: in college football, that not as many games left. Unfortunately,

620
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Speaker 4: that's what happens when the season dwindles. So we little curveball, right,

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Speaker 4: you go to the old uncle Charlie. Here we are

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Speaker 4: giving you touchdown scores today. We're gonna combine them together

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Speaker 4: and do the usual parlay platter.

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Speaker 2: I am going to the unicorn of college football.

625
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 4: There's always sunshine and rainbows surrounding this gentleman. He is

626
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 4: Tyler Warren of Penn State. Not biased at all, but

627
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 4: he is the best tight end in football. And maybe

628
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Speaker 4: maybe Penn State's becoming tight end you. They just flipped

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Speaker 4: the oldest kid from Oregon yesterday, Theo Johnson, Breton Strange,

630
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Speaker 4: Friar mood Yosekee Jesse James. I know Iowa's got their

631
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Speaker 4: state to tight end university. But Tyler Warren has been

632
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 4: unbelievable this year. He has scored in eight of twelve games.

633
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:47,959
Speaker 4: He has six receiving touchdowns for rushing touchdowns. You can

634
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Speaker 4: win this bet multiple ways. Minus won twenty to score today.

635
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Speaker 4: You can catch, you can run the wildcat on the

636
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Speaker 4: goal line, a six foot six, two hundred and fifty

637
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Speaker 4: seven pound unicorn, Tyler Warren. Your first touchdown score in

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Speaker 4: the first touchdown. No, just the first touchdown of our parlay,

639
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Speaker 4: the first touchdown.

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Speaker 2: I think it's like five or six to one, But

641
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 2: do you know, holy cow, first touchdout? All right?

642
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 3: How about Cyclones receiver Jayden Higgins.

643
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 2: He plays across from Jalen Noel. Uh, they've got a

644
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 2: dynamic duo at.

645
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Speaker 3: Receiver for rock Opeck to throw to, who, by the way,

646
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:32,839
Speaker 3: has been a consistent performer on this Cyclone's offense that's

647
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 3: put up over thirty points per game, and many of

648
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Speaker 3: those points through the air.

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Speaker 2: It's a balanced attack. Uh, that's what they like to do.

650
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Speaker 2: They want to run the football, they want to pass

651
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 2: the football, but they.

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Speaker 3: Don't want to overdo either side of it. So I

653
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 3: am going to expect a lot of the ground game

654
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Speaker 3: involved as well. But when they need to get one,

655
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Speaker 3: they throw it to Higgins and they've gotten him a

656
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 3: touchdown in the last five games they've played. So give

657
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:02,439
Speaker 3: me Jayden Higgins with the Cyclones taking on the sun Devils.

658
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 5: Today, Okay, I'm gonna go to the mac on. You

659
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:10,319
Speaker 5: give me Miami of Ohio running back Keon Mosey. He

660
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:13,720
Speaker 5: had a really strong performance the first game this season

661
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 5: against Ohio. I don't look for things to change dramatically

662
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 5: at all. Miami of Ohio had some success running the ball,

663
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:25,240
Speaker 5: and I really think that Moses do for a good game.

664
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 5: And I'll take him to get into the paint over

665
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 5: there at Ford Field in the iMac Championship.

666
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:33,400
Speaker 2: So we're we looking at payout wise.

667
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:37,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, these are all pretty good touchdown props. They're all

668
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 4: kind of in the minus one ten, minus one twenty

669
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 4: ish range plus five twenty three on the three team

670
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 4: touchdown parlay.

671
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 2: Over m I like it rich. He was initially thinking

672
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 2: about Scataboo.

673
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 4: It was a pretty expensive. Uh yeah, that's the free

674
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 4: square in the Bengal.

675
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,879
Speaker 5: Cart today, right right right, let me find something with.

676
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 2: The big Yeah. Yeah, I was like, I was like scataboo.

677
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 2: That that sounds like a lock. I like where your

678
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 2: head's at.

679
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 4: It's just the sportsbooks like it too, and they're making

680
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 4: it hard for you to bet.

681
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 2: By the way, what what's this?

682
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 5: What's the payout look like if we sprinkle a skataboo

683
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 5: on top?

684
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 4: Oh you want to put on top?

685
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:14,360
Speaker 2: Actually?

686
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:16,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, well that we're really getting Oh hold on, I

687
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 4: gotta I gotta do a quick reload here.

688
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 2: I think it would.

689
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 4: It would probably be around eight to one, probably a

690
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 4: little lesson they probably.

691
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:25,359
Speaker 2: Around seven to one.

692
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, because we got to put Higgins, we gotta put Skataboo.

693
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 4: I gotta go back, get.

694
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 2: Mosey in there.

695
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, let me on, let me Mosey onto the Mac

696
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 4: Championship game, and then we've got to get penciate. You know,

697
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 4: there's actually a couple of other FCS games today that

698
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:40,279
Speaker 4: I haven't looked at. We might have to ask U.

699
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 4: We might have to ask our friend. Uh, that shame

700
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:45,799
Speaker 4: is about that we have Oh you know what, they

701
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 4: won't let you do it because it's the same gamer

702
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 4: on Higgins in Scataboo. Gotcha, gotcha? Yeah, but you can

703
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 4: do a Higgins in Scataboo solo and that might be

704
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 4: an interesting same game parlay.

705
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 2: Actually, yeah, you could do that. You can go with that.

706
00:36:58,280 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 4: You could get splus money.

707
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 5: By the way, By the way, while we're beating crazy

708
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:04,400
Speaker 5: over here, what would a Tyler Warren first touchdown?

709
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:04,840
Speaker 2: Score?

710
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 4: First Tyler warrens is seven to one? Yeah, seven to one,

711
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 4: and then if we go Higgins, see this is.

712
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 2: What I love.

713
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 4: We can just like cook this up on the fly

714
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:17,839
Speaker 4: over at that MGM and you were.

715
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 2: Talking about like super weird.

716
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 4: Now like, yeah, it'll be really good. Yeah we had

717
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 4: it's gonna be twenty six to one one if you

718
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 4: go Tyler Warren first touchdown seven to one Mosey, which

719
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 4: is minus one thirty five Higgins minus one to five.

720
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:32,799
Speaker 4: That's twenty six to one.

721
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:34,840
Speaker 2: I mean, I said it, I spoke it into existence.

722
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 2: Wouldn't that be amazing? Yeah, I'm putting ten bucks on it?

723
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 4: Why not?

724
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 2: Okay, So here's the thing, Penn State.

725
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 3: If they lose to the Ducks and ty Warren doesn't

726
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 3: score a touchdown, I mean that's I I mean, I.

727
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:51,840
Speaker 2: Don't know how you left Franklin back in the state.

728
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 4: Yeah.

729
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 3: If they do beat the Ducks, it's because Ty Warren's

730
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 3: in the end zone. I'm fairly certain. So I like

731
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 3: it either way. But first time a spicy.

732
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 4: I'm also gonna do I was gonna do this anyways

733
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:07,839
Speaker 4: for myself. I'm gonna do a Nicholas Singleton Tyler Warren

734
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:09,240
Speaker 4: touchdown parlay for myself.

735
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 2: Okay, there you go, get crazy. We are coming up next.

736
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 5: They came to eat in the first matchup. Do they

737
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 5: have their big bun today?

738
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:19,400
Speaker 2: Ah? Good morning.

739
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 5: We are less than two hours away from kickoff. Real

740
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:28,839
Speaker 5: fast line movement. We've got Iowa State now a one

741
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 5: point favorite. Ooh, Arizona State is a one point dog

742
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:37,280
Speaker 5: now at bet MGM, so that line is basically flipped.

743
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 2: For what it's worth.

744
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 5: Now, I do want to focus in on Georgia taking

745
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 5: on Texas. This is at Mercedes Benz Stadium in Atlanta,

746
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 5: right for the SEC title game. And this was the beginning, right,

747
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 5: This was after the regular season game where Texas went in.

748
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 2: Uh well, they were at home and they.

749
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:02,240
Speaker 5: Watched Georgia stomp all over them. Right, they got doubled

750
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:06,880
Speaker 5: up thirty to fifteen. Georgia beat Texas in their own place.

751
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 5: And after the win, this is what Georgia head coach

752
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:10,439
Speaker 5: Kirby Smart had to say.

753
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:12,280
Speaker 2: What was arn Tim when we walked on the field.

754
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:14,840
Speaker 3: Arn Tim was not to take pictures, not to do

755
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:16,799
Speaker 3: all the superstar stuff.

756
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 4: Arn che Arrn Tim was to eat. Arren Tent was

757
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 4: to come eat and be hungry.

758
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, and that's how they played the first matchup out. Now,

759
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 5: what can be different this time around? This Texas offense

760
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 5: they found their running game big time with Wisner. Good lord,

761
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 5: this guy we talked about Skataboo. This is a different

762
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:40,760
Speaker 5: kind of running back. But three hundred and fifty rushing yards.

763
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:44,399
Speaker 5: The last two games against Kentucky and Texas A and M.

764
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 5: Those aren't Joe blow defenses, and Texas ran it all

765
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 5: over them with Weisner. Texas absolutely dominated A and M.

766
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:57,479
Speaker 5: They should have won that game going away. But that's

767
00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 5: the question is first off, can Georgia's shaky run defense

768
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 5: can they slow down Wisner? Because if they can't, that

769
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:08,440
Speaker 5: just opens everything else up, no.

770
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:09,319
Speaker 2: Question about it.

771
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:13,800
Speaker 3: First and foremost, Texas since taking that loss to Georgia

772
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 3: five straight wins, I mean, so that woke up a

773
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 3: monster in Austin that has not rested since. Meanwhile, George's

774
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 3: taken two losses, one to Alabama and one to Ole Mis.

775
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 3: You know, you look at the tail of the tape.

776
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 3: Texas really took its lesson, I would say, from that

777
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:38,720
Speaker 3: loss against Georgia, and they ran with it. And maybe

778
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:42,760
Speaker 3: Georgia felt themselves a little bit. Maybe even though Kirby

779
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 3: Smart in that spot, in that moment, seemed like the

780
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:51,800
Speaker 3: bigger dog on the yard, they couldn't keep the flame

781
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,760
Speaker 3: stoked throughout the end of the regular season.

782
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 2: So I love this matchup for the SEC.

783
00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:01,439
Speaker 3: Also credit to Texas and from coaching all the way

784
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 3: down to staff and players and trainers and everyone involved

785
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 3: in this season. Your first time in the SEC and

786
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:11,839
Speaker 3: you're playing for the championship game and you had the

787
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 3: season you had. There's so much new, there's so much

788
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 3: turbulence that is involved when you're playing against brand new competition.

789
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,720
Speaker 3: And I know a lot of the faces will change

790
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 3: throughout the years in college football, and you know, maybe

791
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:28,360
Speaker 3: this is going to be the story of college football

792
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 3: that everybody's playing everybody for the first time here pretty soon,

793
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:36,359
Speaker 3: as it's such a fluid environment now. But I love

794
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:38,840
Speaker 3: this storyline because I think it's good for the sport.

795
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:42,439
Speaker 3: If you're going to join a conference, go out there

796
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 3: and join it the right way. And Texas did. I mean,

797
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:48,840
Speaker 3: the SEC is real, big time football and they stepped

798
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:51,280
Speaker 3: up to the plate leaving the Big Twelve and joining

799
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 3: the conference that everybody lauds is the best in the country.

800
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:56,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, isn't it crazy? We could have a PAC twelve

801
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:58,759
Speaker 4: team win the Big Twelve. We could have a PAC

802
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:00,880
Speaker 4: twelve team win the Big Ten, Big twelve team win

803
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:03,800
Speaker 4: the SEC and an American team win the acc that

804
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 4: all of those things could happen today.

805
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:07,840
Speaker 2: What world are we?

806
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 4: No?

807
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:10,240
Speaker 2: I think when you hone it on this game.

808
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 4: When I watched so, I did a brief deep dive

809
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:15,439
Speaker 4: over the first game.

810
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 2: Can you do a brief deep dive?

811
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 4: It's hard. I watched the condensed I watched the condensed

812
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 4: version of the game, and one thing really stood out

813
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:28,279
Speaker 4: was the defense Georgia played against Texas, and I don't

814
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:31,879
Speaker 4: know if they can do it again, like that defensive

815
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 4: effort on the road in Austin, holding that Texas team

816
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:38,359
Speaker 4: to under one hundred yards rushing. It was the only

817
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 4: time all year they were held under one hundred yards rushing.

818
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 4: I don't know if that's repeatable. And what Kirby did

819
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 4: it was genius. It was a stroke of genius. This

820
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:51,799
Speaker 4: is why Kirby smart, as Kirby smart people. So they

821
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 4: ran the Bear front, which is a five down lineman front,

822
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 4: made famous, of course by the eighty five Bears.

823
00:42:57,960 --> 00:42:58,720
Speaker 2: But what they.

824
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 4: Did was they took the fifth defensive lineman, which is

825
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 4: typically a linebacker, and they used the nickel corner.

826
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:07,359
Speaker 2: Why did they do that?

827
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 4: Well, it gave them a little bit of ability to

828
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 4: rush the edge with a little more speed, and they

829
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 4: blitzed the heck out of Texas in that game. But

830
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 4: it also allowed them flexibility to defend the Texas short

831
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:23,320
Speaker 4: passing game, which is what Texas loves to do. They

832
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:27,320
Speaker 4: throw it, they spam it, the screens, the draws, the slants,

833
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:30,880
Speaker 4: the hitches. Over sixty percent of quinn yours As passes

834
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 4: this year have been within ten yards of the line

835
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:36,360
Speaker 4: of scirveage. So when you play with a nickel corner

836
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:38,440
Speaker 4: as your fifth defensive lineman, it gives you again a

837
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 4: little more speed off the edge, but it also gives

838
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:42,879
Speaker 4: you that flexibility to defend the short passing game.

839
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 2: Genius. Here's the problem. Sark saw it. It's on tape.

840
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:49,320
Speaker 2: They've had sixty minutes of it. Can you do it again?

841
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 2: I think no.

842
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 4: I think Texas is gonna win this game, and I

843
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:58,759
Speaker 4: think it's a little bit of adjustments to that. But

844
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 4: I also think the Texas de deserves a ton of

845
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 4: credit because they have been playing lights out, and I

846
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:08,439
Speaker 4: think it's the Texas defense forcing a turnover. Now, there's

847
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 4: not gonna be seven turnovers in this game like there

848
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 4: was in the last game. I think there's gonna be

849
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 4: more points, more offensive flow. But I don't really trust

850
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 4: I trust yours more than Carson Beck right now, which

851
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 4: is kind of crazy to think, but that's how I

852
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 4: feel about the Georgia offense at this point.

853
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing. It reminds me a little bit.

854
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:27,359
Speaker 5: Remember when it was Georgia against Old Miss and Ole

855
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 5: Miss's defensive line is for real, and it's like Carson

856
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:33,760
Speaker 5: Beck doesn't handle pressure very well.

857
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:34,959
Speaker 2: That that's been.

858
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 5: A consistent theme this season. When he's facing a pass rush,

859
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:42,400
Speaker 5: when he's under pressure, his numbers dwindle significantly. And so

860
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:44,799
Speaker 5: that's what I wonder in this matchup for Carson Beck.

861
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 5: Let's say they can't run the ball. Their offensive line

862
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:49,840
Speaker 5: has been banged up, their running back's been banged up.

863
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:52,359
Speaker 5: They can't run it. So it's like, okay, Carson Beck,

864
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:56,360
Speaker 5: you gotta generate some offense over here. And if Texas's

865
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:59,240
Speaker 5: defense is getting after him and he hasn't, he hasn't

866
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 5: handled pressure well all season long, advantage hook him big time.

867
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 5: So I want to see Carson Beck, who was thought

868
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 5: to be a first round pick and now you watch

869
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:12,799
Speaker 5: him throughout the season and it's like, oh no, Brock Bauers, No,

870
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 5: Lad McConkey. The offensive line hasn't been as good. He

871
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 5: doesn't handle pressure as well as he did last season,

872
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 5: not even close. So yeah, I have major questions about

873
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 5: Carson Beck in this matchup.

874
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 2: He regressed from last year. He is not as good

875
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:29,320
Speaker 2: as he was a year ago.

876
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 3: And then you look at Texas, who is the more

877
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 3: successful team over the course of the season offensively, the

878
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 3: more successful team over the course of the season defensively,

879
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:43,360
Speaker 3: And also they have two elite quarterbacks. I mean, so

880
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 3: Carson Beck I like him as a player, I don't

881
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 3: love him. You know, when you compare just the quarterbacks,

882
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:57,280
Speaker 3: which inarguably is the most important data point in football,

883
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 3: and you say, okay, who has the edge, Well, Texas

884
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 3: does times too, because it doesn't matter whether you put

885
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 3: viewers or manning in the game, both of them are better.

886
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 3: And so it gives you the power of a switching

887
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 3: things up if you have to, I mean, and you

888
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 3: may have to depending on injury situation, or it gives

889
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 3: you the availability to do it on purpose, like you

890
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 3: could get into a point in the game where the Bulldogs,

891
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 3: whatever they do defensively ends up working against Texas. Maybe

892
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:36,319
Speaker 3: maybe they get into some different fronts, maybe they show

893
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:41,840
Speaker 3: some different pressure packages. Maybe maybe they show up with

894
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:46,360
Speaker 3: a completely different game flow than they did in the

895
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 3: first meeting. Well, guess what you could do that midstream

896
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 3: as well. You could come out of intermission at halftime

897
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:56,279
Speaker 3: and you could go out there and you can start

898
00:46:56,280 --> 00:47:00,919
Speaker 3: a completely different quarterback. I mean, that is the availability

899
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:04,239
Speaker 3: that Texas has that virtually no other team in the

900
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:07,759
Speaker 3: nation has available to them, and that is going to

901
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 3: be potentially a data point that they'll exploit.

902
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 2: Now would I if I was Texas? Probably not. I

903
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 2: probably wouldn't, But it is a possibility for us to

904
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:21,760
Speaker 2: see this. Now. Listen, Georgia's defense is still elite.

905
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 3: I don't want to sit here and say that Georgia

906
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:28,399
Speaker 3: are some you know, slack jaw dummies on that side

907
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:31,319
Speaker 3: of the ball. That's not the case. These guys are

908
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 3: willful defenders. They've kept this team in every single game

909
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:39,400
Speaker 3: they've played, even as the offense has failed them several times.

910
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:43,319
Speaker 3: The Bulldogs lead the nation in explosiveness allowed, which should

911
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:45,879
Speaker 3: affect yours' ability though to launch the long ball.

912
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 2: That's that's the one part of this that I.

913
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 3: Do think could could really tilted in Texas's favor. Do

914
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:54,240
Speaker 3: I think that it's going to be long Long Horns

915
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:54,720
Speaker 3: by a million?

916
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:54,920
Speaker 2: Now?

917
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:57,399
Speaker 3: Do I think it's going to be a close game?

918
00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 3: I absolutely do. I think it's going to be one

919
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 3: of those matchups where, though if it starts to get

920
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:09,319
Speaker 3: away from for example, Texas, they'd have an easier time

921
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:12,120
Speaker 3: getting back into it than if the game got away

922
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:12,880
Speaker 3: from Georgia.

923
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, it's a good way to put it.

924
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 4: I like that.

925
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 5: And that's a crazy thing about football. You know, you

926
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 5: don't you don't know how it's gonna start out. It's

927
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 5: kind of like a game is like building blocks, you

928
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:28,839
Speaker 5: know what I mean, And depending on how the game begins,

929
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:33,319
Speaker 5: which is tough to forecast, sometimes where does it go

930
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:33,919
Speaker 5: from there?

931
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 2: But I like how you put that.

932
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Speaker 5: I also wonder if arch Manning, if we see a

933
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:42,239
Speaker 5: good helping of arch Manning not just sprinkled in here

934
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:46,400
Speaker 5: and there where, Hey, if Quinn yours isn't playing good football,

935
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 5: they might.

936
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:49,880
Speaker 2: Say, hey, we like the matchup with.

937
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:52,799
Speaker 5: With Manning anyway better anyway, So you might say that's

938
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 5: something else to keep in mind with the prop market,

939
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 5: you know, can we do the latter in reverse?

940
00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:01,799
Speaker 2: Jared, can we do under under you want to do that?

941
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:04,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, we absolutely could, And you maybe want to throw

942
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:07,959
Speaker 4: a I would say an arch Manning touchdown prop in there.

943
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:11,279
Speaker 4: I don't even know if he's listed. I don't even

944
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 4: think he's listed. How about that they didn't even list

945
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 4: in arch Manning anytime touchdown drop up on.

946
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:16,239
Speaker 2: That list them.

947
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:18,279
Speaker 5: If it's it's not a two way market, you know

948
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 5: what I.

949
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:20,799
Speaker 2: Mean, it's Yeah, that's an interesting one.

950
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 4: I think the other question I have here, and you

951
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 4: mentioned it, Brian, that the start of the game, how

952
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 4: much juice do you think there's gonna be in this game?

953
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 2: And I know it's an SEC championship game. I know

954
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 2: it's Texas versus Georgia.

955
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:34,200
Speaker 4: I know it's two top ten teams, but these teams

956
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 4: are both in the Culturaball Playoff. Regardless, Texas could lose

957
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 4: by one hundred today they're in the Culturaball Playoff.

958
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 2: Georgia probably can't lose by a hundred.

959
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 4: But if they lose the game by a reasonable margin,

960
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:47,400
Speaker 4: let's say within two scores, they're in the College ball playoff.

961
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:49,359
Speaker 4: And this game is a tight number, It's right, it's

962
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:52,200
Speaker 4: a three point spread for Texas, so we don't expect

963
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:56,879
Speaker 4: to palacious blowout on either side. I don't know if

964
00:49:56,880 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 4: this game is gonna feel like the one in October,

965
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:04,400
Speaker 4: which was high stakes Georgia needed the game like blood

966
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 4: Texas was undefeated, or if it's going to feel a

967
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 4: little bit more like a scrimmage, like we are putting

968
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:15,799
Speaker 4: the SEC on display and there isn't that.

969
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:18,319
Speaker 2: Like, for example, when you.

970
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:22,759
Speaker 4: Watch Iowa State Arizona State, and you compare the intensity

971
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:25,799
Speaker 4: of how especially Arizona State plays defensively and just their

972
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:29,759
Speaker 4: overall intensity that they play with, and then you transpose

973
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:32,399
Speaker 4: that onto what we're gonna see later in this SEC game.

974
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:35,440
Speaker 4: I know the athletes might be better, but I don't know

975
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:37,440
Speaker 4: if the intensity will be as high.

976
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:37,879
Speaker 2: We'll see.

977
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 4: It'll be an interesting start to see who captures that

978
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:44,600
Speaker 4: momentum early and if there is as much juice because

979
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 4: it's not as high leverage of.

980
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:48,840
Speaker 2: A game as let's say the Big Twelve. Yeah. I

981
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 2: like what you're thinking there.

982
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:52,839
Speaker 5: I would go back to remember the Bowl game last

983
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:57,319
Speaker 5: season for Georgia and they smacked Florida State and they

984
00:50:57,360 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 5: had big time guys playing that game like Georgia didn't,

985
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:05,399
Speaker 5: and that was the ultimate spot of who cares? It's

986
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:08,759
Speaker 5: not even a New Year's six Bowl game. I guess

987
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 5: it was, but it wasn't a playoff bowl. It wasn't

988
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:14,840
Speaker 5: a playoff game when Georgia was on the cusp of

989
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:16,879
Speaker 5: that and they played their guys, you know what I mean.

990
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:19,320
Speaker 5: So I think the only way I hear you, Jared,

991
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:21,880
Speaker 5: trust me, I do. It's not probably gonna have the

992
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 5: same intensity, it doesn't have the same win. And you're

993
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:28,200
Speaker 5: in feeling because to your point, they're both in already.

994
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 5: But I think that Georgia, they're just they're cut from

995
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:34,719
Speaker 5: a different cloth, man.

996
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:35,360
Speaker 2: I think.

997
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:38,320
Speaker 5: I think the only way it turns into like this

998
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:42,400
Speaker 5: scrimmage feeling is if somehow Georgia was just losing dudes

999
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:45,759
Speaker 5: left and right, because it isn't in vogue yet to

1000
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:49,319
Speaker 5: sit out your conference championship game when you're already in

1001
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 5: the playoff, Like this is the first year it's happened,

1002
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:54,200
Speaker 5: and I don't expect Georgia to be the first team

1003
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 5: to raise its hand and say, hey, you know, we'll

1004
00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:59,000
Speaker 5: just kind of take this game off. I just don't

1005
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:00,359
Speaker 5: think they're wired that way.

1006
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I don't either.

1007
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:07,040
Speaker 3: Now I will say this because what you said is true,

1008
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:10,360
Speaker 3: and everybody in the building knows that, including the coaches,

1009
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:15,279
Speaker 3: and everybody knows that even though a conference championship game

1010
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:18,160
Speaker 3: is important, the most important thing is what happens in

1011
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:18,920
Speaker 3: the postseason.

1012
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 2: Now.

1013
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:23,919
Speaker 3: So if things are going really bad for one team

1014
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:27,880
Speaker 3: or another, and I'm talking about any team here, maybe

1015
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 3: not any team, but like Penn State, Oregon, Georgia, Texas, look,

1016
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 3: it can have an influence on what a losing team

1017
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:41,480
Speaker 3: will do in a second half all of a sudden. Similarly,

1018
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:44,759
Speaker 3: how we could see a team that is out to

1019
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 3: a big lead poll starters early, you could see the

1020
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 3: same thing with a losing team because at some point

1021
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:53,919
Speaker 3: you got to put your foot on the brakes and say, hey,

1022
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:56,239
Speaker 3: what are we here to do? Are we here to

1023
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 3: win one game or are we here to win a

1024
00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 3: championship where you know, come February, we're hoisting a trophy

1025
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 3: that actually matters. So that dud I'm saying, it's hovering

1026
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:11,279
Speaker 3: somewhere in the background. Everybody's prideful, everybody wants to win,

1027
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:14,319
Speaker 3: But that thought process, that bubble is hovering somewhere in

1028
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 3: the background, and it could rear its head in one

1029
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:17,280
Speaker 3: of these games.

1030
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Speaker 4: It would be wild if Georgia won the SEC this year.

1031
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:22,880
Speaker 4: This has not been their best team, No, it hasn't.

1032
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Speaker 4: But night close.

1033
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Speaker 5: They're on the doorstep. Isn't that crazy? They're right there again?

1034
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Speaker 4: All right?

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Speaker 5: the Conference Championship games here today. We've got six of them,

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Speaker 2: Be an FCS Shamus special, or he'll have a good

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Speaker 2: feel for those games.

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Speaker 6: Going to be back. Now, it's important to realize this

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Speaker 6: is you get no style points in this. You have

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Speaker 3: I love that Seamus use the term style points because

1084
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 3: in college football we use that term all the time. Now,

1085
00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:02,200
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Speaker 3: and l's baby.

1089
00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:13,560
Speaker 2: It's it's really a great point, well played, sir.

1090
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:18,719
Speaker 6: The problem is they need new counters at halftime. I

1091
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:22,360
Speaker 6: feel like every year now there's a scandal with who's counting.

1092
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:27,839
Speaker 6: It's the worst. Every year that's my scholarship on the line.

1093
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:30,360
Speaker 6: I'd be infuriated if that was the case.

1094
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, we need to get we need to count all

1095
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:37,440
Speaker 4: the votes there when you're doing the Doctor Prepper. It's

1096
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:39,319
Speaker 4: actually funny. I've seen a lot of people tweeting about

1097
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:43,640
Speaker 4: that this morning. Very exciting. Championship Saturday usually means another

1098
00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:47,480
Speaker 4: Doctor Prepper scholarship, all right, Scholarship's always on the line

1099
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:50,840
Speaker 4: on the football field, Shamus, I think the SEC title

1100
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:52,919
Speaker 4: has been an intriguing watch this week.

1101
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:54,200
Speaker 2: From a market perspective.

1102
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:57,800
Speaker 4: It doesn't feel like we want to get off three.

1103
00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 4: We've been magnetized towards that number all week. Do we

1104
00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:03,680
Speaker 4: see a late push. People are gonna look at Georgia

1105
00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:05,800
Speaker 4: and say, hey, I'm getting points with Georgia. I already

1106
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:07,799
Speaker 4: won this game. But I think it's fair to say

1107
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 4: Texas been the better team this year, and I know

1108
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:11,520
Speaker 4: they are very popular bet today.

1109
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:15,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was a lot of Texas money early in

1110
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:17,960
Speaker 6: the week, but there's been some Georgia money in the

1111
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:21,680
Speaker 6: past forty eight hours or so, mostly on the money

1112
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:24,960
Speaker 6: line here, So right now it's a weird spot. We

1113
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:27,520
Speaker 6: got to thread the needle here for where we like

1114
00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:31,320
Speaker 6: to see Georgia cover but not win at two and

1115
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:34,240
Speaker 6: a half. But I think come kickoff. I think this

1116
00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:36,400
Speaker 6: book will end up being pretty balanced because we're starting

1117
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:38,520
Speaker 6: to see money come back on both sides here. So

1118
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:41,920
Speaker 6: I think my kickoff will be all right as far

1119
00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 6: of a need goes on this game, but you know

1120
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 6: we'll see.

1121
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:49,240
Speaker 2: A shamus. How about this?

1122
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:52,960
Speaker 5: When we're looking at this Penn State Oregon matchup and

1123
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:56,480
Speaker 5: you get three in the hook? Are you interested in

1124
00:57:56,680 --> 00:57:59,520
Speaker 5: backing we are and small game James who can't beat

1125
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:01,240
Speaker 5: top five teams to save his life?

1126
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:01,680
Speaker 2: You know?

1127
00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:04,640
Speaker 5: Or or do you say, hey, I'm laying it with Oregon.

1128
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:06,560
Speaker 5: Now three and a hook is different than winning out right?

1129
00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:08,600
Speaker 5: How do you feel about the point spread in this one?

1130
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:09,600
Speaker 6: Now?

1131
00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:09,880
Speaker 2: Better?

1132
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:12,439
Speaker 6: Is a ben mgm marn't bothered by the hook at all.

1133
00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:15,320
Speaker 6: They are all over Oregon minus three and a half,

1134
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:19,080
Speaker 6: so we'll be rooting for the Penn State. I myself

1135
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:21,680
Speaker 6: have a Penn State money line that year, so I

1136
00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:23,720
Speaker 6: do believe in small game James.

1137
00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:29,400
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, small James.

1138
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:33,240
Speaker 2: Hey the MAC Championship game.

1139
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:35,840
Speaker 3: I may be the only person who's passionate about this

1140
00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:39,560
Speaker 3: game on the plannet, but I really love what Alvin

1141
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:44,720
Speaker 3: has done at at at Ohio. I remember I was

1142
00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:49,160
Speaker 3: on the call for an Ohio Bobcats game a Bowl

1143
00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:52,960
Speaker 3: game years ago, and I love Mac teams. I just

1144
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:56,959
Speaker 3: love the culture of that conference. I like this championship game.

1145
00:58:57,520 --> 00:58:59,720
Speaker 3: I don't really have a dog in the fight other

1146
00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:03,480
Speaker 3: than I've loved that in one season, the sort of

1147
00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:06,320
Speaker 3: renovation that has been done to that roster and the

1148
00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:12,040
Speaker 3: explosion that they've had there. Everybody's on Miami of Ohio.

1149
00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:14,680
Speaker 3: Can you make an argument for the Bobcats?

1150
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:19,240
Speaker 6: Sure, this is a crazy conference. Anything can happen. Only

1151
00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:21,720
Speaker 6: two and a half points spread. I mean, we moved

1152
00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:23,600
Speaker 6: this from a point and a half to two and

1153
00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:27,720
Speaker 6: a half in Miami Ohio's favor, but the book is

1154
00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:29,720
Speaker 6: definitely giving a rink for the Bobcats today.

1155
00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:32,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. I think the

1156
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:37,320
Speaker 4: Clemson SMU game is interesting because Clemson has been the

1157
00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:39,280
Speaker 4: dominant team in this conference for years.

1158
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:42,240
Speaker 2: I think they're eight and one in this ACC title game.

1159
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:46,640
Speaker 4: Obviously, SMU has been the upstart team this year. I

1160
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:49,520
Speaker 4: was a little surprised when I saw the immediate shift

1161
00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:51,880
Speaker 4: towards SMU in the market when this line dropped on

1162
00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:55,120
Speaker 4: Saturday night Sunday morning, and it looks like the Mustangs

1163
00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:56,680
Speaker 4: are going to close a favorite in this game.

1164
00:59:56,720 --> 00:59:58,800
Speaker 2: I know this hasn't been a.

1165
00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:02,840
Speaker 4: Patented Clemson season, but this is an interesting spot because

1166
01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:04,919
Speaker 4: they have the experience. It's kind of a home game

1167
01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:07,040
Speaker 4: for them in Charlotte, but they are the underdog here.

1168
01:00:08,560 --> 01:00:11,360
Speaker 6: It feels like one of those weird ones because it's

1169
01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:14,080
Speaker 6: been a lot of Clemson moneyline, Like right now, we're

1170
01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:17,200
Speaker 6: actually hoping SMU just swings this game out right. Nothing

1171
01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:20,200
Speaker 6: really major as far as the need goes to the

1172
01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:23,800
Speaker 6: spread here, but yeah, a lot of Clemson money line.

1173
01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:26,240
Speaker 6: H SMU money on two and a half is starting

1174
01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:28,240
Speaker 6: to come in now, So this could be a This

1175
01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:30,200
Speaker 6: could be a weird one where we just kind of hope,

1176
01:00:30,560 --> 01:00:35,080
Speaker 6: you know, SMU wins by two. But we'll see that game.

1177
01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:38,160
Speaker 6: We have so much football to play before we even

1178
01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:41,439
Speaker 6: get to eight o'clock right now. But sm it comes

1179
01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:44,760
Speaker 6: in such a weird team because it feels like everyone's

1180
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:46,880
Speaker 6: hot on them, then they're cold on them, and now

1181
01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:48,439
Speaker 6: it seems like a lot of people have just bought

1182
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:50,480
Speaker 6: back in on the money line if they're betting them today.

1183
01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:54,200
Speaker 5: Okay, Seamus, this might be a two part question. I'm

1184
01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:57,920
Speaker 5: guessing it is maybe a one part, But which of

1185
01:00:58,040 --> 01:01:01,720
Speaker 5: the six FBS conferenceampionship games today do you feel the

1186
01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:05,840
Speaker 5: most confident in and what is your shamous special.

1187
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:11,240
Speaker 6: Most confe is tough because I have a few games

1188
01:01:11,320 --> 01:01:15,480
Speaker 6: I like, but nothing I really love. But my shamous

1189
01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:18,040
Speaker 6: special I guess today is if you if you know me,

1190
01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:20,920
Speaker 6: I am a card carrying member of the Matt Campbell

1191
01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:24,640
Speaker 6: fan club, and today is coronation day for Iowa State.

1192
01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:26,800
Speaker 6: Matt Campbell. I think they finally win their first Big

1193
01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:27,720
Speaker 6: twelve championship.

1194
01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:29,080
Speaker 2: There you go.

1195
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:32,439
Speaker 4: I'm actually surprised it's not an FCS game, to be honest,

1196
01:01:32,720 --> 01:01:37,320
Speaker 4: it was minus two hundred that there's so many great options,

1197
01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:38,880
Speaker 4: even incarnate word plays today.

1198
01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:44,520
Speaker 6: Oh man, I was looking at the incarnate word East

1199
01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:48,200
Speaker 6: texasan and basketball game looking for something there.

1200
01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:52,360
Speaker 5: We're always looking for something shamous. We'll take anything like.

1201
01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:54,760
Speaker 4: The Iowas stay pick. I agree, we saw some We

1202
01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:57,200
Speaker 4: saw that game flip the last hour, so I'd say

1203
01:01:57,280 --> 01:01:58,200
Speaker 4: you get some sharp money.

1204
01:01:58,280 --> 01:01:59,920
Speaker 2: Is that the I think the tight end for i

1205
01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:01,880
Speaker 2: State's gonna play. That was why we saw that.

1206
01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:05,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, a lot of we just pushed this to a

1207
01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:07,560
Speaker 6: pick them. I think was in the last twenty minutes.

1208
01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:10,160
Speaker 6: So could be some news coming out of Ohio State,

1209
01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:12,280
Speaker 6: out of Iowa State as well, and it's it's just

1210
01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:13,760
Speaker 6: been moving there all week.

1211
01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:17,560
Speaker 2: It feels like twenty twenty seven National Championship.

1212
01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:20,960
Speaker 3: Do we have odds on Bill Belichick hoisting the trophy

1213
01:02:21,160 --> 01:02:24,240
Speaker 3: for the North Carolina tar Heels, Bill or Steve.

1214
01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:26,480
Speaker 6: I'll talk it over with my team. Maybe we could

1215
01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:27,560
Speaker 6: cook something up for you, guys.

1216
01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:31,920
Speaker 4: I love it Bill Belichick win a championship in college football?

1217
01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:35,080
Speaker 2: Yes or no? That's wow? Yeah?

1218
01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:37,880
Speaker 5: Well hey, Seamus, always great stuff, buddy, Hope you enjoyed

1219
01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:38,479
Speaker 5: the games today.

1220
01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:41,200
Speaker 2: Man, We'll catch you soon. Thanks, guys, have a go

1221
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:42,160
Speaker 2: on you too.

1222
01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:44,680
Speaker 5: There he is Seamus McGee, our guy, team lead of

1223
01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:48,600
Speaker 5: sports trading at bet MGM. Now here's the thing. Seamus

1224
01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:52,320
Speaker 5: is still my guy, but he started off with the

1225
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:58,760
Speaker 5: wrong answer. Okay, Doctor Pepper tuition giveaway in these basketball

1226
01:02:58,920 --> 01:02:59,880
Speaker 5: chest passes.

1227
01:02:59,560 --> 01:03:04,640
Speaker 2: You're not in the basketball freaking hate every single year.

1228
01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:07,680
Speaker 2: The rules within it.

1229
01:03:08,080 --> 01:03:10,680
Speaker 4: Now, if they made a rule that says you can't

1230
01:03:10,760 --> 01:03:13,800
Speaker 4: do it, then then I would obviously be okay with

1231
01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:15,000
Speaker 4: no doubt, no doubt.

1232
01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:17,080
Speaker 5: It's kind of like the hack of shack, you know.

1233
01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:20,840
Speaker 5: It's it's the powers that be that allow it that

1234
01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:23,920
Speaker 5: it is the strategy that's used. Granted, we got to

1235
01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:26,680
Speaker 5: move this back to ten yards. At least five yards too,

1236
01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:31,560
Speaker 5: But I'll tell you this, I would freaking destroy the

1237
01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:33,040
Speaker 5: chemistry major.

1238
01:03:32,840 --> 01:03:34,840
Speaker 2: That's going basketball chest path.

1239
01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:37,280
Speaker 5: You don't have to go completely over the top, Go

1240
01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:39,400
Speaker 5: go Philip rivers, go a little three quarter.

1241
01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:40,640
Speaker 2: If you're worried about that.

1242
01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:46,480
Speaker 4: I think it's harder than it looks because it's a

1243
01:03:46,640 --> 01:03:51,160
Speaker 4: very low like target like usually like it's like almost

1244
01:03:51,240 --> 01:03:53,000
Speaker 4: eye level, and you want when you're throwing it, you

1245
01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:53,480
Speaker 4: want it to be.

1246
01:03:53,520 --> 01:03:54,320
Speaker 2: Above your head.

1247
01:03:54,360 --> 01:03:56,479
Speaker 4: I don't know, I understand. I would do it chess

1248
01:03:56,520 --> 01:03:56,880
Speaker 4: beast too.

1249
01:03:56,960 --> 01:04:00,760
Speaker 3: I know you probably hate me underhand, like old school

1250
01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:02,560
Speaker 3: peach basket three throws.

1251
01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:09,320
Speaker 2: I was just between I'd be like the flint tropics

1252
01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:13,440
Speaker 2: out there. Yeah, I'd be making it rain. Yeah. Can

1253
01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:15,040
Speaker 2: we can we make this happen?

1254
01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:18,960
Speaker 5: Can we somehow do this as a challenge?

1255
01:04:19,520 --> 01:04:22,640
Speaker 2: I would love it, love that so much.

1256
01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:28,360
Speaker 5: But yeah, keep the traditional football throw alive, you know,

1257
01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:29,160
Speaker 5: hashtag that.

1258
01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:30,440
Speaker 2: That's my whole movement.

1259
01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:33,160
Speaker 5: There's very few of us left.

1260
01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:36,040
Speaker 2: If they throw it over him.

1261
01:04:36,800 --> 01:04:41,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeahentivicentivized player contract incentives.

1262
01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:43,720
Speaker 2: Let's do it. Come on, doctor pepper Rich.

1263
01:04:43,800 --> 01:04:47,040
Speaker 5: You mentioned this to Shamus Bill Belichick, so he's talked

1264
01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:52,120
Speaker 5: to North Carolina twice at least twice about their head

1265
01:04:52,200 --> 01:04:56,640
Speaker 5: coach opening Ye, no Mac Brown, and so they're gonna

1266
01:04:56,640 --> 01:04:59,120
Speaker 5: go young here, no more seventy five year old Mac

1267
01:04:59,160 --> 01:05:02,160
Speaker 5: Brown to get the seventy two year old Bill Belichick.

1268
01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:05,120
Speaker 2: What do you what? I heard this? Where was like, Okay,

1269
01:05:05,200 --> 01:05:09,120
Speaker 2: he interviewed that. Oh that's weird. He's only what like fourteen.

1270
01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:14,320
Speaker 5: Wins away from topping Don Shula for the most NFL

1271
01:05:14,520 --> 01:05:18,240
Speaker 5: head coaching wins ever, and now he's gonna go to college,

1272
01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:19,360
Speaker 5: maybe at UNC.

1273
01:05:20,080 --> 01:05:21,920
Speaker 2: I just don't see it happening at all. What do

1274
01:05:21,960 --> 01:05:25,280
Speaker 2: you guys make of this? I I just I just

1275
01:05:25,480 --> 01:05:28,600
Speaker 2: don't think. I just don't think it's gonna happen.

1276
01:05:29,320 --> 01:05:31,320
Speaker 3: And listen, I don't want to say that age is

1277
01:05:31,400 --> 01:05:36,120
Speaker 3: going to be the only, the only factor that determines

1278
01:05:36,160 --> 01:05:39,360
Speaker 3: the outcome here, but but I do sort of feel like,

1279
01:05:39,520 --> 01:05:44,320
Speaker 3: because he's seventy two years old, I feel like most

1280
01:05:44,400 --> 01:05:48,920
Speaker 3: college football programs are gonna say, yeah, I mean, we're

1281
01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:53,960
Speaker 3: we're in the business of having future prospects like Oregon,

1282
01:05:54,240 --> 01:05:56,960
Speaker 3: like USC thought they were getting with Lincoln Riley. And

1283
01:05:57,240 --> 01:06:00,800
Speaker 3: we'll see what the more near term looks like as

1284
01:06:00,920 --> 01:06:03,640
Speaker 3: they move on from this year. And move into twenty

1285
01:06:03,720 --> 01:06:08,000
Speaker 3: twenty five. But like, I think that's what every program

1286
01:06:08,080 --> 01:06:11,320
Speaker 3: around college football is chasing. This feels a little bit

1287
01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:14,480
Speaker 3: more like a positioner for his son than it does

1288
01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:18,120
Speaker 3: for him. You know, So Steven, what was he defensive

1289
01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:19,520
Speaker 3: coordinator for the Huskies this year?

1290
01:06:19,560 --> 01:06:19,760
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1291
01:06:19,880 --> 01:06:24,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, so he was at you dub and they

1292
01:06:24,280 --> 01:06:28,680
Speaker 2: had a pretty let's just say it wasn't a good season,

1293
01:06:29,160 --> 01:06:33,360
Speaker 2: and so he moves on from that experience. And Bill Belichick,

1294
01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:36,600
Speaker 2: I mean, just like any other good father is looking

1295
01:06:36,640 --> 01:06:39,640
Speaker 2: out for his kids before you know, he lays his

1296
01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:43,280
Speaker 2: sword to rest, and so he's trying to I think

1297
01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:44,560
Speaker 2: this is just my opinion.

1298
01:06:44,600 --> 01:06:46,960
Speaker 3: I have no idea. I'm just reading the source reports

1299
01:06:47,040 --> 01:06:49,720
Speaker 3: like everybody else. I think he's trying to provide a

1300
01:06:49,840 --> 01:06:52,400
Speaker 3: launch pad for his son before he goes back to

1301
01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:54,400
Speaker 3: the NFL and tries to topple Don Shula.

1302
01:06:54,880 --> 01:06:57,600
Speaker 4: I see it the same way. That's exactly how I

1303
01:06:57,680 --> 01:07:00,920
Speaker 4: read it. And again I don't have any insider in either.

1304
01:07:01,520 --> 01:07:05,640
Speaker 2: But I think I think it's twofold.

1305
01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:07,920
Speaker 4: I think that that is part of it, and I

1306
01:07:07,960 --> 01:07:10,880
Speaker 4: would not be surprised if that is a the big reason,

1307
01:07:11,040 --> 01:07:13,920
Speaker 4: like the seventy five eighty ninety percent reason why he

1308
01:07:14,160 --> 01:07:17,160
Speaker 4: is in bed with the Tar Heels. I also think

1309
01:07:17,240 --> 01:07:19,560
Speaker 4: there is a small there's a small part of me

1310
01:07:19,640 --> 01:07:22,640
Speaker 4: that believes the NFL has kind of moved on from

1311
01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:25,880
Speaker 4: Bill Belichick in terms of the coaching sense. I know

1312
01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:30,400
Speaker 4: that sounds crazy, but didn't work out with the Falcons,

1313
01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:33,360
Speaker 4: and let's be honest, it's not like Rahee Morris is

1314
01:07:33,400 --> 01:07:36,760
Speaker 4: coming there and renovated that team. I don't know what

1315
01:07:36,840 --> 01:07:38,760
Speaker 4: it would look like under Belichick this year, but that

1316
01:07:38,920 --> 01:07:41,800
Speaker 4: was obviously a very close flirtation. They were in bed

1317
01:07:41,880 --> 01:07:45,680
Speaker 4: together and maybe they even got as far as agreeing

1318
01:07:45,720 --> 01:07:47,280
Speaker 4: on some kind of a deal before it all kind

1319
01:07:47,280 --> 01:07:50,880
Speaker 4: of fell south. And I do think there is a

1320
01:07:50,960 --> 01:07:55,000
Speaker 4: part of me that believes the NFL in general, with

1321
01:07:55,240 --> 01:07:58,160
Speaker 4: Crafts still kind of pulling strings behind the scenes and

1322
01:07:58,360 --> 01:08:02,040
Speaker 4: just the club nature of being a head coach in

1323
01:08:02,080 --> 01:08:04,680
Speaker 4: the NFL. I don't know if he's going to get

1324
01:08:04,720 --> 01:08:07,080
Speaker 4: back into those circles, and he might he might see

1325
01:08:07,120 --> 01:08:09,680
Speaker 4: that too, and he might say, Hey, my best chance

1326
01:08:09,800 --> 01:08:12,800
Speaker 4: to have a lasting legacy outside of media down this

1327
01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:15,520
Speaker 4: twilight of my career is to be a coach in

1328
01:08:15,560 --> 01:08:18,960
Speaker 4: college football. And I could see it being successful I

1329
01:08:19,040 --> 01:08:23,200
Speaker 4: could see him going to UNC, bringing Steve garnering the troops,

1330
01:08:23,240 --> 01:08:27,479
Speaker 4: getting some recruits and having some short term success and

1331
01:08:27,760 --> 01:08:29,599
Speaker 4: then kind of going out, you know, with some kind

1332
01:08:29,640 --> 01:08:31,479
Speaker 4: of positive, you know view.

1333
01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:33,640
Speaker 2: But I think it could be both. But I think

1334
01:08:33,680 --> 01:08:36,519
Speaker 2: it's more getting his son involved. Yeah.

1335
01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:38,439
Speaker 5: It's funny to me because I've heard a lot of

1336
01:08:38,720 --> 01:08:42,439
Speaker 5: chatter that North Carolina should say no, and I'm like,

1337
01:08:43,320 --> 01:08:44,720
Speaker 5: it's North Carolina.

1338
01:08:44,960 --> 01:08:47,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would just say no to Belichick.

1339
01:08:47,600 --> 01:08:52,439
Speaker 5: Which is more likely that Belichick goes there and does nothing,

1340
01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:56,639
Speaker 5: or that they hire somebody else instead and he does nothing,

1341
01:08:57,320 --> 01:09:00,120
Speaker 5: and five ish years from now, you're like, man, why

1342
01:09:00,160 --> 01:09:03,519
Speaker 5: didn't we hire Belichick? If he really does want to

1343
01:09:03,640 --> 01:09:06,560
Speaker 5: be there, you'd have to. It'd be like being a

1344
01:09:06,720 --> 01:09:11,320
Speaker 5: normal guy, just Joe Schmoe and a Brazilian underwear model

1345
01:09:11,479 --> 01:09:14,120
Speaker 5: is interested in you. You're an idiot to be like,

1346
01:09:14,360 --> 01:09:16,920
Speaker 5: I don't see a long term future in this. Who cares?

1347
01:09:17,360 --> 01:09:22,160
Speaker 5: Who freaking cares? It's Bill Belichick, you're UNC. If he

1348
01:09:22,360 --> 01:09:24,519
Speaker 5: really wants to be there, you have to say yes,

1349
01:09:24,760 --> 01:09:25,040
Speaker 5: have to?

1350
01:09:25,439 --> 01:09:27,160
Speaker 2: Do you think the Falcons would have been better this

1351
01:09:27,280 --> 01:09:28,559
Speaker 2: year with Belgian? Yes?

1352
01:09:29,880 --> 01:09:33,639
Speaker 3: I think Bill Belichick is still one of the best

1353
01:09:33,720 --> 01:09:37,599
Speaker 3: coaches on the planet. I think the biggest difference between

1354
01:09:37,680 --> 01:09:42,200
Speaker 3: Bill Belichick back in say twenty nineteen and Bill Belichick

1355
01:09:42,280 --> 01:09:44,719
Speaker 3: when he made his exit last season was Tom Brady.

1356
01:09:45,360 --> 01:09:49,160
Speaker 3: And that's not to offend Bill Belichick. That's not to

1357
01:09:49,439 --> 01:09:53,280
Speaker 3: detract from anything he's done. But look across the history

1358
01:09:53,520 --> 01:09:56,320
Speaker 3: of time and space in the NFL, all these great

1359
01:09:56,400 --> 01:09:59,559
Speaker 3: coaches that we lawed and we say, oh my gosh,

1360
01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:03,280
Speaker 3: they were in incredible Look at their quarterbacks, Like I mean,

1361
01:10:03,600 --> 01:10:06,040
Speaker 3: we all say such nice things about Andy Reid, Yeah,

1362
01:10:06,080 --> 01:10:08,800
Speaker 3: because he has Patrick Mahomes. What about Andy Reid when

1363
01:10:08,800 --> 01:10:12,000
Speaker 3: he had Donovan McNabb and he wasn't winning Super Bowls.

1364
01:10:12,160 --> 01:10:14,600
Speaker 3: People had a lot of concerns about Andy Reid and

1365
01:10:14,720 --> 01:10:17,479
Speaker 3: his clock management and his usage of timeouts at the

1366
01:10:17,600 --> 01:10:19,960
Speaker 3: end of the half. But now with Patrick Mahomes, he's

1367
01:10:20,000 --> 01:10:23,320
Speaker 3: a genius. I mean, look what we've said about Pete

1368
01:10:23,360 --> 01:10:28,200
Speaker 3: Carroll with the Seahawks when Matt Flinnwood was his quarterback,

1369
01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:31,120
Speaker 3: versus when Russell Wilson in his prime was his quarterback.

1370
01:10:31,600 --> 01:10:35,720
Speaker 2: Look different conversation. Right, Look at Bill Walsh. I mean,

1371
01:10:35,800 --> 01:10:37,960
Speaker 2: he's heralded as a genius and he is. He's an

1372
01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:39,679
Speaker 2: innovator of the West Coast offense.

1373
01:10:40,040 --> 01:10:44,200
Speaker 3: But or but he had Steve Young and Joe Montana,

1374
01:10:44,280 --> 01:10:45,799
Speaker 3: most importantly Joe Montana.

1375
01:10:46,240 --> 01:10:47,120
Speaker 2: So I get it.

1376
01:10:47,360 --> 01:10:52,240
Speaker 3: Yes, when we're going to talk about about Bill Belichick

1377
01:10:52,520 --> 01:10:55,080
Speaker 3: and whether or not he fits in the NFL, the

1378
01:10:55,120 --> 01:10:55,880
Speaker 3: answer is yes.

1379
01:10:56,280 --> 01:10:59,120
Speaker 2: But just like any other coach, he needs a quarterback.

1380
01:10:59,560 --> 01:11:03,120
Speaker 2: And so I think I think that if Bill takes

1381
01:11:03,160 --> 01:11:06,160
Speaker 2: a job, it's going to be a job with a

1382
01:11:06,240 --> 01:11:09,280
Speaker 2: team that has a ready said go, we already have

1383
01:11:09,320 --> 01:11:12,120
Speaker 2: an elite quarterback in place. Let's go win a bunch

1384
01:11:12,160 --> 01:11:14,679
Speaker 2: of games together. Because I have a system that works

1385
01:11:14,960 --> 01:11:16,599
Speaker 2: when we have greatness at quarterback.

1386
01:11:17,680 --> 01:11:19,800
Speaker 4: I like it. Yeah, I agree. I think the Falcons

1387
01:11:19,840 --> 01:11:21,840
Speaker 4: would have had a better year with Belichick. I think

1388
01:11:21,840 --> 01:11:24,880
Speaker 4: they've they've kind of shown you their true colors the

1389
01:11:24,960 --> 01:11:26,840
Speaker 4: last couple of weeks and Cousins just I think it

1390
01:11:26,880 --> 01:11:29,559
Speaker 4: could be Cousins a little bit banged up too. Still, Yeah,

1391
01:11:30,720 --> 01:11:34,599
Speaker 4: there's a certain element to this that if it happens,

1392
01:11:35,400 --> 01:11:37,879
Speaker 4: it will be one of the bigger Like Bill Belichick.

1393
01:11:37,960 --> 01:11:39,720
Speaker 4: Going back to coach college, nobody had that on the

1394
01:11:39,760 --> 01:11:42,720
Speaker 4: Bengal card, absolutely nobody, And it looks like that's the

1395
01:11:42,800 --> 01:11:44,040
Speaker 4: FAE that's the favorite right now.

1396
01:11:44,120 --> 01:11:46,800
Speaker 2: I think I saw the text alert and I'm like.

1397
01:11:46,840 --> 01:11:49,519
Speaker 4: What, I know what? And then it and then it

1398
01:11:49,680 --> 01:11:51,360
Speaker 4: was like and it wasn't just like a rumor, and

1399
01:11:51,400 --> 01:11:54,080
Speaker 4: then it was like the double down by other reporters,

1400
01:11:54,200 --> 01:11:57,680
Speaker 4: and then the and then once the Steve Belichick caveat

1401
01:11:57,840 --> 01:12:00,920
Speaker 4: got thrown into the mix, then really made sense.

1402
01:12:01,120 --> 01:12:04,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, right, well, we'll see how it unfolds here. There

1403
01:12:04,040 --> 01:12:07,160
Speaker 5: will be as every year, a handful of NFL openings,

1404
01:12:07,840 --> 01:12:10,400
Speaker 5: you know, So, I know the Jets need a coach.

1405
01:12:10,880 --> 01:12:11,160
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1406
01:12:11,400 --> 01:12:16,880
Speaker 2: I tell you where Bill Belichick's not going that. I'm

1407
01:12:16,960 --> 01:12:17,840
Speaker 2: sure the.

1408
01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:20,640
Speaker 5: History that's not gonna happen. But they are one of

1409
01:12:20,840 --> 01:12:23,080
Speaker 5: a handful of teams that will need It feels like

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01:12:23,080 --> 01:12:25,240
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Speaker 2: All right, let's do this.

1432
01:13:37,120 --> 01:13:40,800
Speaker 1: Prop it up plays all right?

1433
01:13:41,360 --> 01:13:44,960
Speaker 2: Prop bets galore, Jared, I know you got some stuff circled.

1434
01:13:45,280 --> 01:13:46,080
Speaker 2: What do you have for us?

1435
01:13:46,280 --> 01:13:49,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm excited about this one. Phil MafA under eighty

1436
01:13:50,040 --> 01:13:52,479
Speaker 4: one and a half rushing yard. So according to Dabbo,

1437
01:13:52,600 --> 01:13:56,200
Speaker 4: he's the Clemson running back. Dabo says Phil is battling

1438
01:13:56,360 --> 01:13:58,200
Speaker 4: a bit of an injury and it's kind of shown

1439
01:13:58,240 --> 01:14:01,200
Speaker 4: on the field over the last couple of games, averaging

1440
01:14:01,320 --> 01:14:04,280
Speaker 4: just two point two yards per carry against FBS opponents,

1441
01:14:04,360 --> 01:14:09,520
Speaker 4: twenty for sixty six against South Carolina, seventeen carries seventeen

1442
01:14:09,680 --> 01:14:13,000
Speaker 4: yards against pitt That was a really ugly performance. And

1443
01:14:13,120 --> 01:14:16,439
Speaker 4: this SMU defense is a havoc defense their top ten

1444
01:14:16,520 --> 01:14:19,320
Speaker 4: across the board against the run. They like to get

1445
01:14:19,479 --> 01:14:22,799
Speaker 4: up the field and penetrate. It opens up run lanes

1446
01:14:22,880 --> 01:14:26,280
Speaker 4: for I think the quarterback k club Nick's legs might

1447
01:14:26,320 --> 01:14:28,760
Speaker 4: be a factor in this game. But they held Jay Not,

1448
01:14:28,960 --> 01:14:31,040
Speaker 4: who I love Jay Not, one of the best running

1449
01:14:31,080 --> 01:14:34,120
Speaker 4: backs in the country, to just thirty seven yards last week.

1450
01:14:34,200 --> 01:14:37,320
Speaker 4: So this is a very fierce SMU defense. I think

1451
01:14:37,360 --> 01:14:39,920
Speaker 4: they will be up for the challenge tonight. Phil MafA

1452
01:14:40,160 --> 01:14:41,559
Speaker 4: under eighty one and a half.

1453
01:14:41,479 --> 01:14:45,080
Speaker 2: Rushings I hate my prop this week. I hate it.

1454
01:14:45,479 --> 01:14:46,920
Speaker 2: That's a good sign, though, right is it?

1455
01:14:47,080 --> 01:14:48,880
Speaker 4: Over eighty one and a half resting yards with.

1456
01:14:51,160 --> 01:14:54,080
Speaker 2: No that would really no?

1457
01:14:54,479 --> 01:14:56,960
Speaker 3: Hey, So listening, gang, this is good. We got bad

1458
01:14:57,040 --> 01:15:01,200
Speaker 3: news for you though. Under one nineteen and a half

1459
01:15:01,320 --> 01:15:03,639
Speaker 3: rushing yards for Skataboo.

1460
01:15:03,439 --> 01:15:08,040
Speaker 2: Oh man, yeah, yeah, so listen. This feels like a

1461
01:15:08,200 --> 01:15:09,120
Speaker 2: sweat free over.

1462
01:15:09,720 --> 01:15:12,519
Speaker 3: But the funny thing about Skataboo is this season with

1463
01:15:12,640 --> 01:15:15,880
Speaker 3: Arizona State, when he's missed the number, he's missed him

1464
01:15:16,000 --> 01:15:20,280
Speaker 3: like tragically, like in the five games where he's fallen short.

1465
01:15:20,800 --> 01:15:23,960
Speaker 3: Let me see, he's averaged sixty three yards in those games.

1466
01:15:24,640 --> 01:15:27,280
Speaker 2: So it's it's hit or miss. It's a little feast

1467
01:15:27,400 --> 01:15:29,840
Speaker 2: or famine. And you know what Iowa State is gonna do.

1468
01:15:30,160 --> 01:15:33,639
Speaker 3: Who's got a tremendous pass defense, They're awful against the run.

1469
01:15:34,120 --> 01:15:36,720
Speaker 3: They are going to load up the box and the

1470
01:15:36,840 --> 01:15:40,040
Speaker 3: Cyclones are gonna say, if you beat us, it is

1471
01:15:40,200 --> 01:15:43,280
Speaker 3: not gonna because we got ran all over.

1472
01:15:43,439 --> 01:15:44,720
Speaker 2: You're gonna beat us through the air.

1473
01:15:45,320 --> 01:15:47,559
Speaker 3: And so I think the plan is to play every

1474
01:15:47,640 --> 01:15:50,720
Speaker 3: single defender at the line of scrimmage, stop the run game,

1475
01:15:50,920 --> 01:15:52,960
Speaker 3: see if the sun Devils could beat you through the air.

1476
01:15:53,360 --> 01:15:56,360
Speaker 2: I'm taking the under on the one nineteen and a half.

1477
01:15:57,200 --> 01:15:59,920
Speaker 5: I like the thought process, and I'm hoping that's exactly

1478
01:16:00,120 --> 01:16:04,639
Speaker 5: what Iowa State does, because, like you said, if Levitt

1479
01:16:04,680 --> 01:16:07,400
Speaker 5: throws it on you, you tip your cap and you say, hey,

1480
01:16:07,560 --> 01:16:10,800
Speaker 5: down your stud wide receiver, good job by you. But

1481
01:16:10,960 --> 01:16:13,400
Speaker 5: you can't leave the field at Jerry World and be

1482
01:16:13,520 --> 01:16:15,360
Speaker 5: like man Scataboo got us again.

1483
01:16:15,640 --> 01:16:18,559
Speaker 2: Yep, I guess we should have. I don't know, loaded

1484
01:16:18,600 --> 01:16:22,559
Speaker 2: the box. Let's stick with the under theme over here.

1485
01:16:22,760 --> 01:16:24,880
Speaker 2: Give me you guys will love this. We are.

1486
01:16:25,160 --> 01:16:27,960
Speaker 5: Give me the Oregon running back Jordan James is a

1487
01:16:28,040 --> 01:16:29,960
Speaker 5: good one. Give me under ninety five and a half

1488
01:16:30,120 --> 01:16:34,200
Speaker 5: rushing yards this Penn State rush defense. I don't think

1489
01:16:34,280 --> 01:16:38,320
Speaker 5: they give up close to one hundred against Jordan James

1490
01:16:38,760 --> 01:16:42,040
Speaker 5: and plus Oregon multi dimensional, they can throw it.

1491
01:16:42,280 --> 01:16:44,040
Speaker 2: You know, Dylan Gabriel can do his thing.

1492
01:16:44,439 --> 01:16:48,680
Speaker 5: So maybe game scripts you know what Oregon tries to

1493
01:16:48,840 --> 01:16:52,640
Speaker 5: do offensively. Maybe it's not a heavy heavy dose of

1494
01:16:52,760 --> 01:16:55,720
Speaker 5: Jordan James. And even if it is, I still think

1495
01:16:55,760 --> 01:16:58,280
Speaker 5: we got an out with Penn State's rush defense. Good

1496
01:16:58,360 --> 01:17:01,639
Speaker 5: rush defense. I just I don't think Jordan James gets

1497
01:17:01,680 --> 01:17:03,240
Speaker 5: to one hundred or close to it. I'll take the

1498
01:17:03,320 --> 01:17:04,760
Speaker 5: under ninety five and a half for him.

1499
01:17:05,080 --> 01:17:05,479
Speaker 2: I like it.

1500
01:17:06,120 --> 01:17:07,920
Speaker 4: By the way, if you wanted to do another parlay

1501
01:17:08,640 --> 01:17:10,800
Speaker 4: under eighty one and a half, mop up under one

1502
01:17:10,880 --> 01:17:12,880
Speaker 4: twenty three and a half Scataboo under ninety five and

1503
01:17:12,920 --> 01:17:17,120
Speaker 4: a half James plus five fifty three over at bet MGM,

1504
01:17:17,240 --> 01:17:18,680
Speaker 4: there's another happy unit.

1505
01:17:18,720 --> 01:17:22,439
Speaker 2: Sprinkle. What if we add a Tyler Warren first touchdown song?

1506
01:17:24,080 --> 01:17:25,840
Speaker 2: Now you're just getting That's why I want I add

1507
01:17:25,880 --> 01:17:27,560
Speaker 2: to everyone's like you're trolling.

1508
01:17:27,240 --> 01:17:28,200
Speaker 4: Me at this point with this.

1509
01:17:28,560 --> 01:17:29,760
Speaker 2: So it's so good.

1510
01:17:30,760 --> 01:17:33,679
Speaker 4: Bet Tyler Warren first touch he's scoring every touchdown tonight.

1511
01:17:33,840 --> 01:17:36,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, there you go, there you go. Can't wait.

1512
01:17:36,160 --> 01:17:39,080
Speaker 5: Well, we'll get to that Penn State game coming up

1513
01:17:39,080 --> 01:17:43,400
Speaker 5: here pretty soon. We'll get to a question. Oh, a

1514
01:17:43,640 --> 01:17:48,559
Speaker 5: cutting edge question around the corner. And will this guy's

1515
01:17:48,680 --> 01:17:51,800
Speaker 5: nickname begin to change tonight? A lot coming at you

1516
01:17:51,880 --> 01:17:55,519
Speaker 5: coming up next? Ah, welcome in less than an hour

1517
01:17:55,600 --> 01:17:57,040
Speaker 5: away from kickoff?

1518
01:17:57,120 --> 01:17:57,880
Speaker 2: Fired up for it.

1519
01:17:58,000 --> 01:18:01,280
Speaker 5: Now, I'll tell you what the carrot I'm dangling in

1520
01:18:01,320 --> 01:18:04,599
Speaker 5: front of you, Penn State A lums here is we're

1521
01:18:04,600 --> 01:18:06,880
Speaker 5: going to talk Penn State Oregon in just a couple

1522
01:18:06,920 --> 01:18:10,080
Speaker 5: of minutes. Okay, But I have a question for you

1523
01:18:10,360 --> 01:18:14,160
Speaker 5: and a concise discussion here and then we'll get to

1524
01:18:14,240 --> 01:18:16,760
Speaker 5: Penn State. All right, this, I know I can count

1525
01:18:16,800 --> 01:18:18,960
Speaker 5: on you to be concise here. Always could be like,

1526
01:18:19,040 --> 01:18:20,240
Speaker 5: I agree, Brian, let's talk.

1527
01:18:20,280 --> 01:18:20,680
Speaker 4: We are.

1528
01:18:22,320 --> 01:18:24,200
Speaker 5: Here's the question I have to throw at you. Okay,

1529
01:18:24,280 --> 01:18:26,559
Speaker 5: because we were all on the wrong side.

1530
01:18:26,680 --> 01:18:27,120
Speaker 4: Last week.

1531
01:18:27,200 --> 01:18:32,639
Speaker 5: Ohio State got embarrassed by Michigan. Embarrassed by Michigan again.

1532
01:18:33,240 --> 01:18:37,080
Speaker 5: They're actually mission again because Ohios they keeps losing to

1533
01:18:37,200 --> 01:18:41,000
Speaker 5: them every year. But the conversation after that, I've heard

1534
01:18:41,040 --> 01:18:44,080
Speaker 5: so much lost season, failed season, even if Ohio State

1535
01:18:44,120 --> 01:18:46,000
Speaker 5: went a championship failed season?

1536
01:18:46,920 --> 01:18:48,280
Speaker 4: What what?

1537
01:18:49,280 --> 01:18:51,519
Speaker 2: Run that by me again? And this is what it

1538
01:18:51,640 --> 01:18:51,880
Speaker 2: leads to.

1539
01:18:52,000 --> 01:18:55,160
Speaker 5: Here's the question for you guys. Would you not trade

1540
01:18:55,360 --> 01:19:00,960
Speaker 5: a loss to your hated rival for a champion? You

1541
01:19:01,040 --> 01:19:04,600
Speaker 5: wouldn't make that trade? Are you kidding me? Like for

1542
01:19:04,760 --> 01:19:07,920
Speaker 5: Eddie Forreddy diehard Ohio State fan. Behind door number one,

1543
01:19:07,960 --> 01:19:10,240
Speaker 5: you can beat Michigan. Okay, I know what it means

1544
01:19:10,280 --> 01:19:15,200
Speaker 5: to you. Behind door number two. You win a national championship,

1545
01:19:15,439 --> 01:19:16,840
Speaker 5: You're taking door number one.

1546
01:19:16,960 --> 01:19:18,800
Speaker 2: You're out of your freaking mind.

1547
01:19:19,320 --> 01:19:22,160
Speaker 5: We talk about Nick Saban, how many championships he won,

1548
01:19:22,280 --> 01:19:23,759
Speaker 5: not his Iron Bowl record.

1549
01:19:24,800 --> 01:19:26,040
Speaker 2: We don't talk about.

1550
01:19:25,880 --> 01:19:29,120
Speaker 5: Jim Harbaugh losing the Ohio State anymore because he won

1551
01:19:29,200 --> 01:19:34,720
Speaker 5: a national championship. Like that is the eraser to a

1552
01:19:34,840 --> 01:19:37,360
Speaker 5: loss to a hated rival. If you choose the win

1553
01:19:37,479 --> 01:19:40,680
Speaker 5: against the hated rival over a national championship. I don't

1554
01:19:40,680 --> 01:19:42,840
Speaker 5: want to talk football with you ever again. And I

1555
01:19:42,960 --> 01:19:44,560
Speaker 5: know what it might mean to you, but that is

1556
01:19:44,680 --> 01:19:46,240
Speaker 5: just the dumbest trade of all time.

1557
01:19:46,280 --> 01:19:50,000
Speaker 2: If that's what you choose, one hundred percent agree, one

1558
01:19:50,080 --> 01:19:53,760
Speaker 2: hundred percent agree, And yeah, I promise you this isn't

1559
01:19:53,920 --> 01:19:58,080
Speaker 2: just to get to the Big Ten championship game matchup quicker,

1560
01:19:58,520 --> 01:20:01,320
Speaker 2: But you've said it all, and you said it perfectly

1561
01:20:01,400 --> 01:20:07,120
Speaker 2: and succinctly. If you would trade a rivalry game win over.

1562
01:20:07,040 --> 01:20:11,719
Speaker 3: A national championship, I guess pack my pipe with whatever

1563
01:20:11,880 --> 01:20:14,639
Speaker 3: you're smoking because you're on Mars.

1564
01:20:15,000 --> 01:20:18,320
Speaker 2: You are on Mars. That is that don't do drugs.

1565
01:20:18,720 --> 01:20:21,439
Speaker 3: I guess that's really that's really the end of that

1566
01:20:21,680 --> 01:20:24,360
Speaker 3: sentences or the paragraph is don't do drugs.

1567
01:20:24,640 --> 01:20:25,040
Speaker 2: That's all.

1568
01:20:25,640 --> 01:20:32,200
Speaker 4: Yeah. I think ego and pride run amuck amongst college

1569
01:20:32,240 --> 01:20:39,720
Speaker 4: football fans. To have that take is squarely ego. That's it.

1570
01:20:40,560 --> 01:20:44,400
Speaker 4: And now the only pushback is, well, Ohio States already

1571
01:20:44,439 --> 01:20:47,880
Speaker 4: won a national title recently, and if you're comparing it

1572
01:20:47,960 --> 01:20:50,640
Speaker 4: to like how a Penn State fan would feel, I

1573
01:20:50,680 --> 01:20:52,599
Speaker 4: would if you tell me that we win the national title,

1574
01:20:52,640 --> 01:20:54,200
Speaker 4: I lose every game to a hostate Michigan for the

1575
01:20:54,240 --> 01:20:56,880
Speaker 4: rest of my life, right, Like, I wouldn't care, But

1576
01:20:57,479 --> 01:21:00,880
Speaker 4: I don't have that hatred towards the two teams like

1577
01:21:01,040 --> 01:21:04,400
Speaker 4: they have towards each other, right, So it's hard for

1578
01:21:04,520 --> 01:21:07,960
Speaker 4: me to frame it that way. But I think any

1579
01:21:08,040 --> 01:21:13,400
Speaker 4: one regular season game is not compared to May And maybe.

1580
01:21:13,520 --> 01:21:15,720
Speaker 3: You know, and Brian, maybe you could jump in and

1581
01:21:15,960 --> 01:21:19,200
Speaker 3: correct me if I'm wrong. But Notre Dame the team

1582
01:21:19,280 --> 01:21:23,519
Speaker 3: that you throw behind Penn State, mine and Jared's alma mater.

1583
01:21:24,200 --> 01:21:26,200
Speaker 3: It is a little bit of a different conversation in

1584
01:21:26,320 --> 01:21:30,120
Speaker 3: terms of the rivalry conversation because they are kind of

1585
01:21:30,320 --> 01:21:31,760
Speaker 3: unrivaled programs.

1586
01:21:31,840 --> 01:21:33,439
Speaker 2: There is no natural rival.

1587
01:21:33,600 --> 01:21:36,360
Speaker 3: I guess you could say, in your case, Notre Dame

1588
01:21:36,439 --> 01:21:40,360
Speaker 3: the fighting Irish and the USC Trojans. There's something there, sure,

1589
01:21:40,640 --> 01:21:43,560
Speaker 3: but but and I don't want to say it's manufactured

1590
01:21:43,640 --> 01:21:44,200
Speaker 3: because it's not.

1591
01:21:44,439 --> 01:21:48,479
Speaker 2: It's real. But but there it doesn't feel like there.

1592
01:21:48,640 --> 01:21:52,920
Speaker 2: There isn't that like like it's not Hoosiers Irish every year,

1593
01:21:53,040 --> 01:21:55,639
Speaker 2: like we gotta see it. It's not like Penn State

1594
01:21:55,840 --> 01:21:57,040
Speaker 2: pit every year.

1595
01:21:57,120 --> 01:21:59,840
Speaker 5: We got used to be that it used but not

1596
01:22:00,600 --> 01:22:02,920
Speaker 5: It's true, it's not on the same level. Notre Dame

1597
01:22:03,080 --> 01:22:05,840
Speaker 5: USC even Notre Dame. Michigan was a great rivalry, but

1598
01:22:06,080 --> 01:22:09,599
Speaker 5: not the Iron Bowl, not you know, the Michigan Ohio

1599
01:22:09,680 --> 01:22:13,400
Speaker 5: State rivalry. But here's the thing, like, imagine if you

1600
01:22:13,520 --> 01:22:17,320
Speaker 5: win that game, right, let's just say, let's take Ohio

1601
01:22:17,400 --> 01:22:22,120
Speaker 5: State for instance, they beat Michigan, great Michigan six and six.

1602
01:22:22,240 --> 01:22:23,880
Speaker 5: Most people say, that's what you should have done. You're

1603
01:22:23,920 --> 01:22:26,360
Speaker 5: favored by about twenty points. Yeah, you know, it's no

1604
01:22:26,560 --> 01:22:29,200
Speaker 5: big deal. I mean, it's a big deal for the rivalry.

1605
01:22:29,360 --> 01:22:32,760
Speaker 5: It's not like a national big deal. And then you

1606
01:22:32,920 --> 01:22:35,479
Speaker 5: go get waxed in the college football playoff. That's what

1607
01:22:35,640 --> 01:22:39,040
Speaker 5: you choose, that's what you'd rather have. You're out of

1608
01:22:39,120 --> 01:22:42,200
Speaker 5: your mind. You're choosing the battle over the war. And

1609
01:22:42,320 --> 01:22:45,000
Speaker 5: it might be a great, great battle, great rivalry, but

1610
01:22:45,600 --> 01:22:48,560
Speaker 5: the goal is to win a championship.

1611
01:22:48,760 --> 01:22:48,920
Speaker 2: Yep.

1612
01:22:48,960 --> 01:22:51,320
Speaker 5: And if you can do that, you you'd rather throw

1613
01:22:51,400 --> 01:22:53,800
Speaker 5: that away and say, no, I'd rather beat Michigan. That's

1614
01:22:53,840 --> 01:22:57,840
Speaker 5: how much it means. You're freaking crazy. Sorry, there's no

1615
01:22:57,960 --> 01:23:02,280
Speaker 5: other way to say it. Now, Okay, State Oregon as promised. Yeah,

1616
01:23:03,479 --> 01:23:07,679
Speaker 5: if small game James gets it done, James Franklin, He's

1617
01:23:08,600 --> 01:23:12,240
Speaker 5: zero and eleven. He's lost eleven straight against top five teams.

1618
01:23:12,400 --> 01:23:15,120
Speaker 2: I haven't heard that one before. Yeah, I know, sorry.

1619
01:23:15,479 --> 01:23:19,880
Speaker 5: Breaking doos Here, he's known as small game James because

1620
01:23:19,920 --> 01:23:22,880
Speaker 5: he can't get it done against top five teams. They're

1621
01:23:22,920 --> 01:23:27,320
Speaker 5: facing the number one ranked Oregon Ducks. If Penn State wins,

1622
01:23:28,000 --> 01:23:31,080
Speaker 5: I know, it doesn't automatically change his nickname, but it

1623
01:23:31,240 --> 01:23:35,320
Speaker 5: is a step in the right direction to changing that nickname.

1624
01:23:35,520 --> 01:23:38,360
Speaker 5: Do you guys agree with that because someone will say, wow, Oregon,

1625
01:23:38,439 --> 01:23:41,000
Speaker 5: they wanted the five seed, they didn't show up. Like,

1626
01:23:41,560 --> 01:23:44,840
Speaker 5: if you beat Oregon, that's a big deal for Penn

1627
01:23:44,880 --> 01:23:47,840
Speaker 5: State to finally right the ship and beat a top

1628
01:23:47,920 --> 01:23:48,400
Speaker 5: five team.

1629
01:23:48,439 --> 01:23:50,000
Speaker 2: I think that'd be a huge deal for them.

1630
01:23:50,200 --> 01:23:52,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is a little bit of a little bit

1631
01:23:53,000 --> 01:23:56,560
Speaker 3: of the conversation we were just having, which is, you know,

1632
01:23:56,880 --> 01:24:00,360
Speaker 3: I mean, if if Ryan Day did away with this,

1633
01:24:00,800 --> 01:24:04,280
Speaker 3: hey he can't beat that team up North Moniker but

1634
01:24:04,439 --> 01:24:07,040
Speaker 3: loses in the playoffs, what is it really matter?

1635
01:24:08,160 --> 01:24:10,799
Speaker 2: It's it's almost like the flip with James Franklin.

1636
01:24:10,840 --> 01:24:14,280
Speaker 3: It's like no, no, no, like you have to do this,

1637
01:24:14,640 --> 01:24:18,760
Speaker 3: like like there's like there's no there's no rivalry situation

1638
01:24:19,000 --> 01:24:23,200
Speaker 3: here where where you know, Uh, there's a moral victory.

1639
01:24:24,320 --> 01:24:27,280
Speaker 2: You have to win this game, James. You have to

1640
01:24:27,520 --> 01:24:31,320
Speaker 2: try to fix this script against you against the Nitney

1641
01:24:31,400 --> 01:24:35,760
Speaker 2: Lions under your tenure. Otherwise I don't want to.

1642
01:24:35,840 --> 01:24:38,400
Speaker 3: I don't want to make bold proclamations here because this

1643
01:24:38,640 --> 01:24:39,880
Speaker 3: was a successful season.

1644
01:24:39,960 --> 01:24:41,240
Speaker 2: There's no other way to look at it.

1645
01:24:42,200 --> 01:24:45,080
Speaker 3: But if you flame out late here when the heat

1646
01:24:45,160 --> 01:24:48,479
Speaker 3: gets hot, and the end result of this season is

1647
01:24:49,439 --> 01:24:55,400
Speaker 3: Penn stay Big Ten Championship, uh Big Ten Championship game

1648
01:24:55,479 --> 01:25:01,320
Speaker 3: against Oregon Ducks lost that one Ohio State regular season.

1649
01:25:02,080 --> 01:25:05,400
Speaker 3: They had plenty of opportunities to score. They didn't score

1650
01:25:05,560 --> 01:25:09,080
Speaker 3: when they needed to. In the red zone playoffs, maybe

1651
01:25:09,160 --> 01:25:11,360
Speaker 3: they even win a game, but they get knocked out

1652
01:25:12,000 --> 01:25:12,879
Speaker 3: all of a sudden.

1653
01:25:13,439 --> 01:25:16,160
Speaker 2: It's gonna be the same note. And when you're a

1654
01:25:16,280 --> 01:25:19,840
Speaker 2: coach and you're hitting the same note year after year

1655
01:25:20,120 --> 01:25:23,559
Speaker 2: after year, they get rid of you. Unless that note

1656
01:25:23,720 --> 01:25:26,680
Speaker 2: is I'm winning championships, they'll get rid of you.

1657
01:25:26,920 --> 01:25:29,720
Speaker 3: That's the reason why Marty Schottenheimer was fired after a

1658
01:25:29,800 --> 01:25:33,360
Speaker 3: fourteen win regular season with the San Diego Chargers all

1659
01:25:33,400 --> 01:25:35,759
Speaker 3: those years ago, because he was making it to the playoffs,

1660
01:25:36,439 --> 01:25:39,639
Speaker 3: but they weren't winning in the playoffs. And look, that's

1661
01:25:39,720 --> 01:25:45,040
Speaker 3: why playoff coaches get fired routinely. It doesn't seem fair.

1662
01:25:45,600 --> 01:25:48,800
Speaker 3: But even in LA they were calling for Dave roberts Head.

1663
01:25:49,520 --> 01:25:54,880
Speaker 3: The Dodgers were unbelievably successful, but they weren't winning championships.

1664
01:25:54,960 --> 01:25:56,479
Speaker 2: So what was the story on the Dodgers.

1665
01:25:56,560 --> 01:25:58,720
Speaker 3: Well, the story on the Dodgers is one hundred win

1666
01:25:58,800 --> 01:26:01,679
Speaker 3: regular season lost in the divisional series.

1667
01:26:02,439 --> 01:26:05,160
Speaker 2: Oh wow. Yeah, Well, I'll tell you what the problem is.

1668
01:26:05,240 --> 01:26:07,559
Speaker 2: It's the manager. So James Franklin has.

1669
01:26:07,720 --> 01:26:10,400
Speaker 3: Got to win this football game. He's got to or

1670
01:26:10,439 --> 01:26:13,200
Speaker 3: he's got to win a national championship. Otherwise the scene's

1671
01:26:13,240 --> 01:26:14,960
Speaker 3: gonna get awfully hot for Franklin.

1672
01:26:16,040 --> 01:26:18,040
Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know how much urgency this game is.

1673
01:26:18,240 --> 01:26:20,240
Speaker 4: I know it feels like.

1674
01:26:21,720 --> 01:26:24,000
Speaker 2: Penn State has to win. I think it's the playoff.

1675
01:26:24,080 --> 01:26:27,200
Speaker 4: More like, I would trade a loss here for a

1676
01:26:27,400 --> 01:26:31,920
Speaker 4: win over an SEC team in state college in two weeks.

1677
01:26:32,360 --> 01:26:35,360
Speaker 4: I would trade that. Unlike Michigan fans or Ohio State fans,

1678
01:26:35,400 --> 01:26:38,439
Speaker 4: who would not trade their game against the other team

1679
01:26:38,560 --> 01:26:43,040
Speaker 4: for a national championship, I would trade. I would get

1680
01:26:43,120 --> 01:26:46,719
Speaker 4: embarrassed in this game. I would be willing to be embarrassed. Tonight,

1681
01:26:47,320 --> 01:26:51,160
Speaker 4: if you promised me that when we play Bama in

1682
01:26:51,280 --> 01:26:54,320
Speaker 4: two weeks or whoever we play in state college, it

1683
01:26:54,439 --> 01:26:56,880
Speaker 4: might be you know, Iowa State, which would be a

1684
01:26:56,960 --> 01:27:02,400
Speaker 4: really favorable matchup, but I would trade that because I

1685
01:27:02,439 --> 01:27:08,080
Speaker 4: think the playoff does supersede it. But Oregon is flirting

1686
01:27:08,120 --> 01:27:12,040
Speaker 4: with history. This would be a historic win for Oregon.

1687
01:27:12,439 --> 01:27:16,080
Speaker 4: They're the first FBS team since the Jamis Winston led

1688
01:27:16,160 --> 01:27:20,200
Speaker 4: Knowles to be the only undefeated FBS team through twelve games.

1689
01:27:20,600 --> 01:27:21,679
Speaker 2: It doesn't happen often.

1690
01:27:21,760 --> 01:27:25,720
Speaker 4: Usually there's either multiples or there's none, and this year

1691
01:27:26,280 --> 01:27:29,280
Speaker 4: there's none. It's it's just Oregon the only undefeated, the

1692
01:27:29,360 --> 01:27:31,880
Speaker 4: only unblemished team. I think they are a much different

1693
01:27:31,920 --> 01:27:34,000
Speaker 4: team with Tedes Johnson, and I think that's what makes

1694
01:27:34,040 --> 01:27:37,559
Speaker 4: tonight's game very interesting is he has looked. He looked

1695
01:27:37,600 --> 01:27:39,240
Speaker 4: good in the game against Washington. He was hurt for

1696
01:27:39,280 --> 01:27:41,679
Speaker 4: a few games earlier in the season. Of course, Oregon's

1697
01:27:41,720 --> 01:27:43,960
Speaker 4: kind of been through this up and down where the

1698
01:27:44,040 --> 01:27:46,880
Speaker 4: first few games it was like sacks left and right

1699
01:27:46,880 --> 01:27:48,360
Speaker 4: and they couldn't move the ball and they almost lost

1700
01:27:48,400 --> 01:27:51,000
Speaker 4: the boise and then they kind of locked in and

1701
01:27:51,120 --> 01:27:53,400
Speaker 4: Dan Lanning's on a mission this year like they've They've

1702
01:27:53,479 --> 01:27:55,680
Speaker 4: made a lot of improvements to this defense. It's not

1703
01:27:55,800 --> 01:27:58,720
Speaker 4: an elite defense. They can be run on, and I

1704
01:27:58,800 --> 01:28:01,960
Speaker 4: think that's the key for State tonight. Can Nicholas Singleton,

1705
01:28:02,000 --> 01:28:06,280
Speaker 4: who finally showed you some burst last week, can Penn

1706
01:28:06,360 --> 01:28:09,439
Speaker 4: State get into favorable down and distances on third down?

1707
01:28:09,880 --> 01:28:10,880
Speaker 2: Can it be third and three?

1708
01:28:11,560 --> 01:28:14,439
Speaker 4: Because if it's not, if it's third and eight, third

1709
01:28:14,479 --> 01:28:16,880
Speaker 4: and nine, that's where Penn State and Drew Aler get

1710
01:28:16,920 --> 01:28:19,800
Speaker 4: into trouble because they don't have a separating receiver on

1711
01:28:19,840 --> 01:28:22,560
Speaker 4: their team. It's Tyler Warren and it's Nicholas Singleton, and

1712
01:28:22,680 --> 01:28:24,679
Speaker 4: that's pretty much the offense, and they need Colt.

1713
01:28:24,600 --> 01:28:29,080
Speaker 2: Nickotty to be in his bag. As the kids say, yeah,

1714
01:28:29,200 --> 01:28:29,599
Speaker 2: no doubt.

1715
01:28:29,840 --> 01:28:33,280
Speaker 5: That's largely what it comes down to for Penn State's offense.

1716
01:28:33,320 --> 01:28:35,479
Speaker 5: They just don't have those receivers. They don't have that

1717
01:28:36,160 --> 01:28:39,320
Speaker 5: explosiveness to their offense. So you got to run it now.

1718
01:28:39,439 --> 01:28:42,960
Speaker 5: The good news is Oregon's run defense is vulnerable. They

1719
01:28:43,000 --> 01:28:45,080
Speaker 5: have not been good. There are yards to be gained

1720
01:28:45,160 --> 01:28:50,080
Speaker 5: against them. So yeah, if Singleton and Alan, if those

1721
01:28:50,120 --> 01:28:52,840
Speaker 5: guys can get it done, you're cooking to with grease

1722
01:28:52,880 --> 01:28:54,920
Speaker 5: all of a sudden, because I like Penn State's defense.

1723
01:28:54,960 --> 01:28:58,519
Speaker 5: Some say they're overrated, but you've got NFL dudes there

1724
01:28:58,680 --> 01:29:02,200
Speaker 5: and Carter King Harris every level of the defense. Let

1725
01:29:02,240 --> 01:29:03,599
Speaker 5: me throw this at you too, to put a bow

1726
01:29:03,720 --> 01:29:08,479
Speaker 5: on this. There's been so much conversation about, hey, the

1727
01:29:08,600 --> 01:29:11,679
Speaker 5: loser probably gets the five seed and that might be better.

1728
01:29:12,680 --> 01:29:14,920
Speaker 2: Count me out on that one, agreed.

1729
01:29:14,880 --> 01:29:18,360
Speaker 5: Because you're talking about winning four games to win a

1730
01:29:18,439 --> 01:29:22,200
Speaker 5: national championship compared to three, and I don't think your

1731
01:29:22,479 --> 01:29:25,880
Speaker 5: path is so much more favorable as the five seed.

1732
01:29:26,240 --> 01:29:29,080
Speaker 5: Granted you'd play the twelve and then if you survive,

1733
01:29:29,240 --> 01:29:33,679
Speaker 5: you play the four seed. That's favorable, but that extra game,

1734
01:29:34,240 --> 01:29:38,599
Speaker 5: who knows who gets injured? The attrition starts to take

1735
01:29:38,760 --> 01:29:41,880
Speaker 5: shape right like you're tired. You're trying to win a

1736
01:29:42,000 --> 01:29:45,000
Speaker 5: championship to win four games compared to three, I just

1737
01:29:45,080 --> 01:29:47,080
Speaker 5: don't think you're in a better spot as the five

1738
01:29:47,200 --> 01:29:48,360
Speaker 5: compared to the one seed.

1739
01:29:48,920 --> 01:29:51,720
Speaker 3: Buddy, you said it all. Here's the only thing I'll

1740
01:29:51,760 --> 01:29:56,000
Speaker 3: add is what is okay the risk reward? I kind

1741
01:29:56,040 --> 01:29:59,280
Speaker 3: of look at life through that lens a lot. I

1742
01:29:59,360 --> 01:30:02,040
Speaker 3: always think to myself, Okay, what am I risking versus

1743
01:30:02,160 --> 01:30:05,240
Speaker 3: what I'm gaining if I make this decision. And that

1744
01:30:05,400 --> 01:30:08,840
Speaker 3: works personally, but it also works professionally. It also works

1745
01:30:08,880 --> 01:30:12,920
Speaker 3: when you're talking about individual and a business or a team.

1746
01:30:13,600 --> 01:30:16,680
Speaker 3: Think about what you're risking playing one more game. What

1747
01:30:16,840 --> 01:30:19,759
Speaker 3: happens if you lose Ty Warren? What happens if Singleton

1748
01:30:19,840 --> 01:30:21,960
Speaker 3: gets banged up? What happens if you lose one of

1749
01:30:22,000 --> 01:30:25,120
Speaker 3: your important members of that defense that has been lauded

1750
01:30:25,160 --> 01:30:27,160
Speaker 3: throughout this season, but it's a lynch pin.

1751
01:30:27,800 --> 01:30:31,000
Speaker 2: Well, guess what. That five seed doesn't look so good anymore,

1752
01:30:31,120 --> 01:30:31,400
Speaker 2: does it.

1753
01:30:31,840 --> 01:30:35,040
Speaker 3: Even if the draw works out better and your bracket

1754
01:30:35,120 --> 01:30:39,240
Speaker 3: shapes up nicely on paper, the game isn't played on paper.

1755
01:30:39,560 --> 01:30:42,519
Speaker 3: So all these analytics gurus who are overthinking the room

1756
01:30:42,760 --> 01:30:47,200
Speaker 3: get lost. Because football is a violent sport where people

1757
01:30:47,360 --> 01:30:52,360
Speaker 3: are running into each other. Okay, things happen. Okay, the

1758
01:30:52,560 --> 01:30:57,479
Speaker 3: ball is oblong shaped, it bounces funny sometimes. Okay, the

1759
01:30:57,640 --> 01:31:00,840
Speaker 3: wind gust could blow on a forty yard field goal

1760
01:31:01,080 --> 01:31:03,600
Speaker 3: and it could change the fortunes and fates.

1761
01:31:03,280 --> 01:31:07,479
Speaker 2: Of football forever. So lose me on the lose the

1762
01:31:07,560 --> 01:31:10,519
Speaker 2: Big Ten championship and fall to the five seed because

1763
01:31:10,520 --> 01:31:13,639
Speaker 2: it benefits us. That is that is, that is as

1764
01:31:13,760 --> 01:31:18,800
Speaker 2: dumb as wanting to win a rivalry game of championship

1765
01:31:19,479 --> 01:31:21,960
Speaker 2: go Ordburger. I could see him in my monitor.

1766
01:31:22,040 --> 01:31:22,800
Speaker 4: He has fired up.

1767
01:31:22,840 --> 01:31:25,640
Speaker 2: He's got his faces rather than a tomato. I love it.

1768
01:31:25,960 --> 01:31:27,720
Speaker 4: I like this fire because you're one hundred percent right.

1769
01:31:28,240 --> 01:31:31,400
Speaker 4: The only people saying that are people that aren't playing

1770
01:31:31,600 --> 01:31:34,920
Speaker 4: in the game. Like I bet if you asked anyone

1771
01:31:35,000 --> 01:31:37,400
Speaker 4: in that locker room tonight for either team Penn State

1772
01:31:37,520 --> 01:31:39,880
Speaker 4: or Oregon, they'd be like, we don't want the five seed,

1773
01:31:39,960 --> 01:31:41,800
Speaker 4: we want them, we want the steak in one seed,

1774
01:31:41,960 --> 01:31:47,040
Speaker 4: Like come on. But also, I can't really sum it

1775
01:31:47,120 --> 01:31:48,760
Speaker 4: up any better than what you guys said, Like, there's

1776
01:31:48,880 --> 01:31:51,519
Speaker 4: so many things that could happen. You are playing an

1777
01:31:51,680 --> 01:31:56,519
Speaker 4: extra sixty minutes. It is an easy to see if

1778
01:31:56,520 --> 01:31:59,599
Speaker 4: you're giving me the choice. If you're giving me a choice,

1779
01:32:00,439 --> 01:32:03,240
Speaker 4: can you be the one and the bye or the

1780
01:32:03,360 --> 01:32:04,960
Speaker 4: five and the easy matchup?

1781
01:32:05,360 --> 01:32:06,799
Speaker 2: It's like not even a choice.

1782
01:32:07,320 --> 01:32:11,880
Speaker 4: Now. If I don't have a choice and I can't

1783
01:32:11,960 --> 01:32:14,240
Speaker 4: be the one and I can't get a bye.

1784
01:32:14,760 --> 01:32:17,800
Speaker 2: Which seed? Which path is the easiest?

1785
01:32:18,000 --> 01:32:21,600
Speaker 4: Yes, the five seed is the easiest path, But the

1786
01:32:21,760 --> 01:32:24,360
Speaker 4: easiest path is not to play a game that weekend

1787
01:32:25,120 --> 01:32:27,439
Speaker 4: is to be sitting on your took us and watching

1788
01:32:27,600 --> 01:32:31,479
Speaker 4: other teams play. And that's an SMU is the one.

1789
01:32:31,560 --> 01:32:34,320
Speaker 4: That is the argument that I can't stand this week.

1790
01:32:35,040 --> 01:32:40,719
Speaker 4: The SMU is being punished argument is the dumbest argument

1791
01:32:40,880 --> 01:32:46,920
Speaker 4: I've ever heard. So let's say SMU is Notre Dame

1792
01:32:47,000 --> 01:32:49,960
Speaker 4: and they don't play this weekend, and their.

1793
01:32:50,360 --> 01:32:51,759
Speaker 2: Options are okay.

1794
01:32:52,280 --> 01:32:55,000
Speaker 4: You can either play Clemson this week a game you're

1795
01:32:55,080 --> 01:32:59,479
Speaker 4: favored in on a neutral field, win that game, get

1796
01:32:59,720 --> 01:33:04,040
Speaker 4: three weeks off, and then go play Fiesta whoever on

1797
01:33:04,200 --> 01:33:09,120
Speaker 4: a neutral you get three weeks off. Or you could

1798
01:33:09,160 --> 01:33:11,439
Speaker 4: sit around and do nothing this weekend because you're being

1799
01:33:11,520 --> 01:33:14,599
Speaker 4: punished for playing in the AC Championship game, and then

1800
01:33:14,680 --> 01:33:17,120
Speaker 4: you can go to State College or Columbus or South

1801
01:33:17,240 --> 01:33:21,000
Speaker 4: Bend in late December and be a touchdown dog in

1802
01:33:21,080 --> 01:33:21,679
Speaker 4: the first round.

1803
01:33:22,040 --> 01:33:22,840
Speaker 2: What would you choose?

1804
01:33:22,920 --> 01:33:25,639
Speaker 4: I would choose the path of Clemson, and then three

1805
01:33:25,720 --> 01:33:27,240
Speaker 4: weeks off that would be the path that.

1806
01:33:27,200 --> 01:33:27,760
Speaker 2: I would choose.

1807
01:33:28,600 --> 01:33:31,240
Speaker 5: Man, this was a ranting segment, It really was.

1808
01:33:31,760 --> 01:33:33,280
Speaker 2: That's been bothering me all week.

1809
01:33:33,640 --> 01:33:36,680
Speaker 4: Oh, SMU is being punished, No, they're not win the

1810
01:33:36,720 --> 01:33:39,519
Speaker 4: stinking game and take three weeks off that question.

1811
01:33:39,720 --> 01:33:42,800
Speaker 2: Woke up. Can't tankeris Ormberger? Man, I can't play. You

1812
01:33:43,240 --> 01:33:45,200
Speaker 2: did the show with can't Take Ris know we got

1813
01:33:45,240 --> 01:33:47,080
Speaker 2: all the way to can't take for his arm.

1814
01:33:48,560 --> 01:33:51,320
Speaker 5: Full circle man, that was great. I was therapeutic the

1815
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1816
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Speaker 2: Man. That was awesome. Hey.

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Speaker 5: got Clemson taken on SMU. That's tonight, eight pm Eastern kicktime.

1839
01:35:14,320 --> 01:35:17,000
Speaker 5: It's at Bank of America Stadium over there in Charlotte,

1840
01:35:17,040 --> 01:35:17,759
Speaker 5: North Carolina.

1841
01:35:18,520 --> 01:35:19,200
Speaker 2: Now here's the thing.

1842
01:35:19,280 --> 01:35:24,120
Speaker 5: The first part of this is SMU is better with

1843
01:35:24,280 --> 01:35:28,439
Speaker 5: their defensive line than Clemson is. And so the question becomes,

1844
01:35:28,640 --> 01:35:32,360
Speaker 5: is SMU what Clemson used to be? Now, now, I'm

1845
01:35:32,439 --> 01:35:35,439
Speaker 5: not saying Clemson they used to be dominant. They've got

1846
01:35:35,600 --> 01:35:39,120
Speaker 5: dudes all over the NFL that used to star as

1847
01:35:39,200 --> 01:35:43,080
Speaker 5: defensive lineman over there. Christian Wilkins was the first round pick,

1848
01:35:43,200 --> 01:35:45,400
Speaker 5: Brian Brazy was the first round pick. The list goes

1849
01:35:45,400 --> 01:35:48,519
Speaker 5: on and on. They've had dudes. I'm not saying SMU

1850
01:35:48,680 --> 01:35:51,760
Speaker 5: is on that level, but for SMU to have the

1851
01:35:51,960 --> 01:35:56,960
Speaker 5: better defensive line against Clemson is eye opening here. But

1852
01:35:57,360 --> 01:36:00,240
Speaker 5: SMU's got some dudes on that d line, and you

1853
01:36:00,280 --> 01:36:03,640
Speaker 5: can say they haven't faced a who's who's schedule. But

1854
01:36:03,880 --> 01:36:06,280
Speaker 5: Jared laid this out and prop it up. He likes

1855
01:36:06,320 --> 01:36:08,960
Speaker 5: them to slow down Phil Maffa and this Clemson rushing

1856
01:36:09,040 --> 01:36:12,000
Speaker 5: attack with good reason. Man, SMU can get after it.

1857
01:36:12,600 --> 01:36:14,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they absolutely can.

1858
01:36:14,960 --> 01:36:20,400
Speaker 3: SMU almost dropped the game to Duke because of six turnovers.

1859
01:36:21,240 --> 01:36:24,200
Speaker 3: If you look at Clemson throughout the season, they survived

1860
01:36:24,280 --> 01:36:28,599
Speaker 3: the close one against Pittsburgh a few weeks back. I mean,

1861
01:36:28,720 --> 01:36:32,759
Speaker 3: so there have been hiccups for both of these teams recently,

1862
01:36:33,439 --> 01:36:37,960
Speaker 3: But when I think about the path that it's taken

1863
01:36:38,120 --> 01:36:41,240
Speaker 3: both of these teams to get here, isn't it amazing

1864
01:36:41,479 --> 01:36:46,160
Speaker 3: how different we feel about these two programs. SMU first

1865
01:36:46,600 --> 01:36:50,240
Speaker 3: year in the conference, inaugural season, playing for the championship.

1866
01:36:50,880 --> 01:36:54,679
Speaker 3: They're back, They're on the national scene, and go figure,

1867
01:36:54,880 --> 01:36:58,960
Speaker 3: it took allowing players to be paid for SMU to

1868
01:36:59,120 --> 01:37:03,640
Speaker 3: be back in the nation conversation not shocked, h and

1869
01:37:03,760 --> 01:37:08,920
Speaker 3: then Clemson Clemson their path to this game, even though okay,

1870
01:37:09,479 --> 01:37:13,200
Speaker 3: they their their game against Georgia earlier this season boosts

1871
01:37:13,960 --> 01:37:17,439
Speaker 3: their the view of their schedule, it was kind of

1872
01:37:17,520 --> 01:37:19,799
Speaker 3: cookie cutter, you know, there's I mean.

1873
01:37:19,720 --> 01:37:22,919
Speaker 2: They you have to play who you play in the conference.

1874
01:37:23,000 --> 01:37:26,280
Speaker 2: But it was in a great schedule outside of the

1875
01:37:26,360 --> 01:37:27,240
Speaker 2: Georgia matchup.

1876
01:37:27,320 --> 01:37:30,000
Speaker 3: And so you look at these two teams and you

1877
01:37:30,080 --> 01:37:34,200
Speaker 3: say to yourself, you say to yourself, the feel for

1878
01:37:34,680 --> 01:37:39,400
Speaker 3: for Southern Methodists is like it just feels better for them,

1879
01:37:39,520 --> 01:37:42,920
Speaker 3: Like it almost feels like like when you when you

1880
01:37:43,080 --> 01:37:49,320
Speaker 3: see a stadium act performing in clubs, you know, whereas

1881
01:37:49,439 --> 01:37:53,280
Speaker 3: when you're you're seeing a rising star playing clubs, you

1882
01:37:53,360 --> 01:37:58,320
Speaker 3: feel differently about those those two performers, like the rising

1883
01:37:58,600 --> 01:38:02,280
Speaker 3: star twenty four four years old, it's a garage band

1884
01:38:02,360 --> 01:38:05,840
Speaker 3: that has finally got its its first studio album and

1885
01:38:05,960 --> 01:38:09,519
Speaker 3: they're gonna be touring in arena soon, versus the stadium

1886
01:38:09,560 --> 01:38:13,200
Speaker 3: act who's hit the heights yeah, but has fallen down

1887
01:38:13,360 --> 01:38:16,559
Speaker 3: back to the clubs and it's trying to recover its image.

1888
01:38:16,920 --> 01:38:19,840
Speaker 2: That is the story of SMU and Clemson. I love that.

1889
01:38:20,040 --> 01:38:22,479
Speaker 2: It's like Guns n' Roses is playing the County Fair

1890
01:38:22,680 --> 01:38:24,120
Speaker 2: what what he? Yeah?

1891
01:38:25,360 --> 01:38:27,559
Speaker 4: And they can't they can barely play the guitar because

1892
01:38:27,560 --> 01:38:31,479
Speaker 4: they're so old and I'm just kidding, there's there's obviously

1893
01:38:31,560 --> 01:38:34,519
Speaker 4: a little bit of home cooking here. Games in Charlotte.

1894
01:38:35,360 --> 01:38:39,599
Speaker 4: Clemson's is basically a home game for them, and it's

1895
01:38:39,640 --> 01:38:42,240
Speaker 4: funny SMU. They put out their social media poster for

1896
01:38:42,320 --> 01:38:45,479
Speaker 4: the game and it was like cold, like mountainous terrains,

1897
01:38:45,479 --> 01:38:46,960
Speaker 4: like did they are they in the right place? Like

1898
01:38:47,000 --> 01:38:49,040
Speaker 4: they know they're going to Charlotte for this game right now.

1899
01:38:49,439 --> 01:38:52,280
Speaker 4: I think there's a there's a certain level of familiarity

1900
01:38:52,400 --> 01:38:55,360
Speaker 4: with this game for Clemson. They've eate they're eight and

1901
01:38:55,400 --> 01:38:57,320
Speaker 4: one straight up, they won eight straight as He's a

1902
01:38:58,160 --> 01:39:02,479
Speaker 4: games like it just they know what to expect. SMU

1903
01:39:02,600 --> 01:39:06,200
Speaker 4: does not. Now the element of surprise is definitely a thing.

1904
01:39:06,800 --> 01:39:11,040
Speaker 4: Smu schedule has not been very difficult this year. They

1905
01:39:11,080 --> 01:39:13,720
Speaker 4: have kind of skated by on the outskirts of a

1906
01:39:13,880 --> 01:39:15,240
Speaker 4: bad ACC conference.

1907
01:39:15,760 --> 01:39:17,400
Speaker 2: They're one loss to BYU.

1908
01:39:18,000 --> 01:39:20,639
Speaker 4: Not aging so well. It looked good earlier in the year,

1909
01:39:20,840 --> 01:39:23,640
Speaker 4: now not so much. I don't know if they are

1910
01:39:24,320 --> 01:39:28,080
Speaker 4: up for that mental task. I think they are physically better.

1911
01:39:28,479 --> 01:39:32,000
Speaker 4: I think they're better coached. I think they have better players. Dabos.

1912
01:39:32,200 --> 01:39:34,559
Speaker 4: You've seen the fall off. They didn't hit the portal.

1913
01:39:35,040 --> 01:39:39,000
Speaker 4: They've gone the traditional route. You're starting to see why

1914
01:39:39,160 --> 01:39:42,160
Speaker 4: that's not a smart path in today's college football. They

1915
01:39:42,200 --> 01:39:45,120
Speaker 4: are just not as physically gifted as they have been

1916
01:39:45,479 --> 01:39:49,000
Speaker 4: in years past. But there is a certain element to

1917
01:39:49,080 --> 01:39:51,280
Speaker 4: this game that I do think is going to be mental.

1918
01:39:51,600 --> 01:39:53,679
Speaker 4: I think Clemson's defense is what scares me the most

1919
01:39:53,720 --> 01:39:56,800
Speaker 4: about back at three, you think, oh, you gotta bet

1920
01:39:56,840 --> 01:39:57,840
Speaker 4: Clemson plus three.

1921
01:39:58,439 --> 01:40:00,680
Speaker 2: It's screaming yet to face. But then you look at

1922
01:40:00,720 --> 01:40:01,240
Speaker 2: their defense.

1923
01:40:01,280 --> 01:40:03,719
Speaker 4: Pitt's quarterback through for over three to fifty, the backup

1924
01:40:03,800 --> 01:40:06,200
Speaker 4: quarterback through for over three to fifty. On this Clemson defense,

1925
01:40:06,479 --> 01:40:09,559
Speaker 4: they let Leonora Sellers look like Michael Vick last week.

1926
01:40:09,680 --> 01:40:12,639
Speaker 4: I mean, just running left, right and center and Kevin

1927
01:40:12,720 --> 01:40:16,080
Speaker 4: Jennings can have that effect on you. And I just

1928
01:40:16,160 --> 01:40:19,120
Speaker 4: don't know if Clemson's defense, like when we think of Clemson,

1929
01:40:19,520 --> 01:40:22,639
Speaker 4: we think of smash mouth football.

1930
01:40:23,000 --> 01:40:23,800
Speaker 2: They're not really that.

1931
01:40:24,320 --> 01:40:27,360
Speaker 4: Their offensive line is a little bit weak. Their defense

1932
01:40:27,439 --> 01:40:29,360
Speaker 4: is giving up a ton of yards they're out. I mean,

1933
01:40:29,479 --> 01:40:32,160
Speaker 4: this is a team that is sixtieth in yards per play.

1934
01:40:32,439 --> 01:40:37,200
Speaker 4: Clemson's defense is outside essentially the top sixty in yards

1935
01:40:37,240 --> 01:40:40,080
Speaker 4: per play allowed. This year. So can SMU handle the

1936
01:40:40,120 --> 01:40:42,840
Speaker 4: early nerves in the road environment. If they can, I

1937
01:40:42,880 --> 01:40:44,439
Speaker 4: think they win this game. But I think that's the

1938
01:40:44,520 --> 01:40:45,920
Speaker 4: intangible that I'm not sure about.

1939
01:40:46,479 --> 01:40:49,720
Speaker 5: No, it's it's a good breakdown. I like everything right there.

1940
01:40:49,800 --> 01:40:53,320
Speaker 5: And like you said, Kevin Jennings, can he channel his

1941
01:40:53,479 --> 01:40:54,240
Speaker 5: inner sellers?

1942
01:40:54,479 --> 01:40:54,680
Speaker 2: You know.

1943
01:40:56,680 --> 01:41:01,600
Speaker 5: Listen, that's that often is And and Kate Klubnick in

1944
01:41:01,680 --> 01:41:04,360
Speaker 5: that pit game he had the long touchdown run. Some

1945
01:41:04,479 --> 01:41:08,000
Speaker 5: of these quarterbacks making plays with their legs, man, that's

1946
01:41:08,080 --> 01:41:13,720
Speaker 5: the that's the the wild card against certain defenses because defensively,

1947
01:41:13,800 --> 01:41:17,000
Speaker 5: you can do everything right, you have won that play,

1948
01:41:17,720 --> 01:41:20,800
Speaker 5: and then a special quarterback just makes something special happen

1949
01:41:21,360 --> 01:41:24,080
Speaker 5: running the ball. And so we'll see if Kenny Kevin

1950
01:41:24,120 --> 01:41:27,479
Speaker 5: Jennings does that today because there are some plays to

1951
01:41:27,520 --> 01:41:29,960
Speaker 5: be made and I want to see, Like if you

1952
01:41:30,040 --> 01:41:34,360
Speaker 5: look at Brishard Smith, SMU's running back, he's a stud.

1953
01:41:34,560 --> 01:41:38,840
Speaker 2: The running game isn't that reliable, that efficient, but he

1954
01:41:39,040 --> 01:41:40,880
Speaker 2: is a home run hitter. Yeah, yep, yeah.

1955
01:41:40,920 --> 01:41:44,400
Speaker 5: And that's the tradeoff is would you trade, you know,

1956
01:41:44,560 --> 01:41:46,680
Speaker 5: running into a brick wall for a quarter and a

1957
01:41:46,760 --> 01:41:48,360
Speaker 5: half for a home run hit?

1958
01:41:48,640 --> 01:41:49,759
Speaker 2: Absolutely? I would.

1959
01:41:50,280 --> 01:41:52,880
Speaker 5: And that might be what SMU experiences tonight.

1960
01:41:53,040 --> 01:41:56,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, he reminds me a little bit of what Sai

1961
01:41:56,720 --> 01:42:00,439
Speaker 3: Kuon Barkley was for Penn State when he is playing

1962
01:42:00,479 --> 01:42:04,240
Speaker 3: college ball, playing behind a bad offensive line, but man,

1963
01:42:04,560 --> 01:42:07,719
Speaker 3: he was patient and he would take loss.

1964
01:42:08,120 --> 01:42:09,479
Speaker 2: I mean, look up his numbers.

1965
01:42:09,560 --> 01:42:12,880
Speaker 3: They were bizarre because it would be loss of two,

1966
01:42:13,520 --> 01:42:18,360
Speaker 3: loss of four, loss of six, seventy three yard touchdowns, right,

1967
01:42:18,680 --> 01:42:21,080
Speaker 3: I mean it would be wild, but that would be

1968
01:42:21,240 --> 01:42:25,080
Speaker 3: what four rushes would look like for Sakuon Barkley. SMU

1969
01:42:25,760 --> 01:42:30,920
Speaker 3: and Clemson both play really staggeringly good defense, and again

1970
01:42:30,960 --> 01:42:34,400
Speaker 3: against a weaker ACC this year, granted. But I'll tell

1971
01:42:34,400 --> 01:42:37,760
Speaker 3: you what SMU is vulnerable to a lot of what

1972
01:42:37,880 --> 01:42:43,240
Speaker 3: you were talking about. They're they're they're vulnerable to explosive plays, especially.

1973
01:42:42,960 --> 01:42:43,559
Speaker 2: In the run game.

1974
01:42:43,920 --> 01:42:49,000
Speaker 3: So if k Klubnick can get get moving here, or

1975
01:42:50,040 --> 01:42:54,880
Speaker 3: or if or if Jennings opposite him, you know, can

1976
01:42:54,960 --> 01:42:58,719
Speaker 3: get moving here, I mean you could see the ball

1977
01:42:58,840 --> 01:43:02,360
Speaker 3: thrown over the Mustang head, or you could see SMU

1978
01:43:02,600 --> 01:43:06,280
Speaker 3: giving up explosives in the run game. I could see

1979
01:43:06,439 --> 01:43:09,320
Speaker 3: either of those things happening. I'm leaning toward a lower

1980
01:43:09,400 --> 01:43:14,479
Speaker 3: scoring game, but I could see explosives being what factors

1981
01:43:14,560 --> 01:43:18,040
Speaker 3: the most in this game. I could see both defenses

1982
01:43:18,080 --> 01:43:21,759
Speaker 3: playing basically three and a half quarters of great football,

1983
01:43:22,160 --> 01:43:24,280
Speaker 3: But it's like it comes down to two or three

1984
01:43:24,360 --> 01:43:27,280
Speaker 3: plays where you say, if they just could have those back,

1985
01:43:27,560 --> 01:43:28,679
Speaker 3: they would have won this game.

1986
01:43:29,400 --> 01:43:31,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's definitely a lot of variants with this game

1987
01:43:31,840 --> 01:43:33,840
Speaker 4: because both teams have played bad schedules. When you have

1988
01:43:33,880 --> 01:43:35,880
Speaker 4: two teams that have played bad schedules and you don't

1989
01:43:35,920 --> 01:43:39,200
Speaker 4: have elite data points to compare, it's really hard to

1990
01:43:39,280 --> 01:43:40,679
Speaker 4: figure out which side of the aid.

1991
01:43:40,600 --> 01:43:41,400
Speaker 2: This one's gonna go on.

1992
01:43:41,920 --> 01:43:45,559
Speaker 4: I will say this, though, you look at this SMU

1993
01:43:45,680 --> 01:43:48,200
Speaker 4: offense and I think they are going to have I

1994
01:43:48,240 --> 01:43:50,639
Speaker 4: do think they're gonna have some success against this Clemson defense.

1995
01:43:50,760 --> 01:43:53,439
Speaker 4: Clemson's explosive run rate this year is pitiful. I cannot

1996
01:43:53,439 --> 01:43:56,240
Speaker 4: believe how many they've given up twenty four runs of

1997
01:43:56,240 --> 01:43:57,880
Speaker 4: twenty or more yards this year. That is one hundred

1998
01:43:57,880 --> 01:43:58,880
Speaker 4: and twenty fifth in the country.

1999
01:43:59,080 --> 01:43:59,320
Speaker 2: Wow.

2000
01:43:59,800 --> 01:44:02,559
Speaker 4: And again, this is Clemson's defense we're talking about here.

2001
01:44:03,200 --> 01:44:06,040
Speaker 4: This is what they do, which is shut down the

2002
01:44:06,120 --> 01:44:08,720
Speaker 4: run and make you into a one dimensional team. And

2003
01:44:08,840 --> 01:44:11,200
Speaker 4: then on the other side, you mentioned it, Brian and

2004
01:44:11,280 --> 01:44:14,439
Speaker 4: I do think Kate Clubs Nicks, Kate Club Knicks legs. Wow,

2005
01:44:14,560 --> 01:44:16,920
Speaker 4: try saying that five times fast is going to be

2006
01:44:17,000 --> 01:44:19,720
Speaker 4: a big factor in the game as well. I was surprised.

2007
01:44:19,760 --> 01:44:21,600
Speaker 4: So when I broke down the numbers of the of

2008
01:44:21,720 --> 01:44:24,599
Speaker 4: the South Carolina Clemson game last week, I was shocked.

2009
01:44:25,200 --> 01:44:25,599
Speaker 2: Shocked.

2010
01:44:26,120 --> 01:44:31,280
Speaker 4: South Carolina, who has two absolute bookend NFL defensive linemen

2011
01:44:31,360 --> 01:44:33,559
Speaker 4: on the edge, they only had a fifteen percent pressure

2012
01:44:33,640 --> 01:44:37,200
Speaker 4: rate in that game against Clemson. So Clemson's O line

2013
01:44:37,280 --> 01:44:39,240
Speaker 4: held up okay, And I think a lot of it

2014
01:44:39,400 --> 01:44:42,599
Speaker 4: is they ran they They've run these like weird draws

2015
01:44:42,680 --> 01:44:45,400
Speaker 4: that like really keeps the defenders honest, and I think

2016
01:44:45,479 --> 01:44:47,479
Speaker 4: that took its toll throughout the course of the game.

2017
01:44:47,680 --> 01:44:51,120
Speaker 2: And Clubnix legs are a factor. I don't love the

2018
01:44:51,240 --> 01:44:52,360
Speaker 2: receivers for Clemson.

2019
01:44:52,479 --> 01:44:55,120
Speaker 4: They've got this Williams kid who's kind of a touchdown hog,

2020
01:44:55,280 --> 01:44:59,240
Speaker 4: but they're not exactly efficient on the outside. And as

2021
01:44:59,280 --> 01:45:01,360
Speaker 4: we talked about, don't think Mafa's gonna have a huge game.

2022
01:45:01,400 --> 01:45:03,519
Speaker 4: He's a little bit nicked up. Like this is this

2023
01:45:03,720 --> 01:45:05,840
Speaker 4: game is going to fall squarely on the shoulders of

2024
01:45:05,920 --> 01:45:08,600
Speaker 4: Kate Clubnick And let's be honest, he was brought in

2025
01:45:08,720 --> 01:45:11,640
Speaker 4: to be the number one quarterback type guy. This is

2026
01:45:11,920 --> 01:45:15,479
Speaker 4: if Clemson wants to ascend to any kind of or

2027
01:45:15,560 --> 01:45:19,360
Speaker 4: I guess reascend to any kind of national prominence, it's

2028
01:45:19,439 --> 01:45:21,679
Speaker 4: gotta come on the arm and legs of Kate Klubnick.

2029
01:45:21,720 --> 01:45:23,880
Speaker 2: He is going to be front and center in this

2030
01:45:24,000 --> 01:45:24,519
Speaker 2: game tonight.

2031
01:45:24,760 --> 01:45:26,960
Speaker 5: By the way, let me take a random left hand

2032
01:45:27,040 --> 01:45:30,320
Speaker 5: turn on you and we'll get back to the previewing here.

2033
01:45:30,439 --> 01:45:32,560
Speaker 5: But there was a headline from earlier this week that

2034
01:45:32,640 --> 01:45:34,680
Speaker 5: I just had to mention on the show today with

2035
01:45:34,800 --> 01:45:37,360
Speaker 5: you guys where UCF.

2036
01:45:37,120 --> 01:45:38,720
Speaker 2: God bless him, they're aiming high.

2037
01:45:39,160 --> 01:45:43,120
Speaker 5: They targeted USC head coach Lincoln Riley to be their

2038
01:45:43,200 --> 01:45:49,719
Speaker 5: next head coach. UCF inquired about the availability of Lincoln Riley,

2039
01:45:50,439 --> 01:45:52,599
Speaker 5: and now Link said, yeah, I'm good. I think I'm

2040
01:45:52,640 --> 01:45:55,960
Speaker 5: good here at USC. Compared to UCF, here's the thing,

2041
01:45:56,080 --> 01:45:59,760
Speaker 5: here's the comparison I would make. UCF reminds me of

2042
01:46:00,320 --> 01:46:04,040
Speaker 5: one of those American Idol contestants, you know, the ones

2043
01:46:04,080 --> 01:46:06,880
Speaker 5: where they can't sing a lick and they think the

2044
01:46:07,040 --> 01:46:08,320
Speaker 5: judges are out to get them.

2045
01:46:08,560 --> 01:46:09,160
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

2046
01:46:09,560 --> 01:46:13,600
Speaker 5: They just have no self awareness whatsoever. It's half entertaining

2047
01:46:13,800 --> 01:46:16,640
Speaker 5: and half annoying, where it's that's UCF.

2048
01:46:17,000 --> 01:46:18,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, like they have no self awareness.

2049
01:46:18,960 --> 01:46:23,559
Speaker 5: They proclaim themselves national champions, which I freaking hated.

2050
01:46:23,720 --> 01:46:24,599
Speaker 2: No self awareness.

2051
01:46:24,960 --> 01:46:27,719
Speaker 5: I do kind of love that they have no self

2052
01:46:27,760 --> 01:46:31,040
Speaker 5: awareness to reach out to Lincoln Riley like link's gonna

2053
01:46:31,040 --> 01:46:31,240
Speaker 5: be like.

2054
01:46:31,320 --> 01:46:34,519
Speaker 2: UCF, Hell yeah, my bags are packed, Let's do this.

2055
01:46:35,439 --> 01:46:37,840
Speaker 5: I love them and hate them at the same time.

2056
01:46:37,920 --> 01:46:40,880
Speaker 5: That's UCF. They are the American Idol contestant.

2057
01:46:41,200 --> 01:46:44,280
Speaker 2: It's a little bit of shoot your shot, right, And.

2058
01:46:47,720 --> 01:46:51,960
Speaker 3: I've been there before, like sometimes you have no business

2059
01:46:52,080 --> 01:46:54,720
Speaker 3: being in on the conversation, but you're like, a screw it,

2060
01:46:54,880 --> 01:46:56,280
Speaker 3: But what's the worst that could happen?

2061
01:46:56,600 --> 01:46:57,720
Speaker 2: They laughed me out of the room.

2062
01:46:58,080 --> 01:46:58,240
Speaker 4: You know.

2063
01:46:58,400 --> 01:47:00,880
Speaker 2: You know what UCF kind of remind me of is

2064
01:47:01,360 --> 01:47:02,240
Speaker 2: Kanye West.

2065
01:47:02,760 --> 01:47:05,719
Speaker 3: Like Kanye West jumps on the stage and he talks

2066
01:47:05,720 --> 01:47:08,519
Speaker 3: about how Beyonce should win things instead of Taylor Swift.

2067
01:47:08,640 --> 01:47:13,160
Speaker 3: Kanye West he throws himself into you know, politics, and

2068
01:47:13,200 --> 01:47:14,200
Speaker 3: he's running for president.

2069
01:47:14,240 --> 01:47:17,479
Speaker 2: All of a sudden, It's like really, you know, like

2070
01:47:18,000 --> 01:47:20,880
Speaker 2: there's just a couple of moments where you're just like, really, Kanye,

2071
01:47:20,920 --> 01:47:23,160
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, he's married to Kim kardash and

2072
01:47:23,200 --> 01:47:24,000
Speaker 2: he's making children.

2073
01:47:24,200 --> 01:47:27,240
Speaker 3: You're just like, really, all of a sudden, he shows

2074
01:47:27,320 --> 01:47:30,040
Speaker 3: up in a boat in Italy. There's things happening. You're like, Okay,

2075
01:47:30,120 --> 01:47:33,639
Speaker 3: what is going on? But he keeps his name out there,

2076
01:47:33,880 --> 01:47:36,720
Speaker 3: he keeps people talking about and whether you love him

2077
01:47:36,760 --> 01:47:38,800
Speaker 3: or hate him, you can't argue with the fact that

2078
01:47:38,960 --> 01:47:39,519
Speaker 3: this guy is.

2079
01:47:40,040 --> 01:47:44,720
Speaker 2: Completely notable, Like everybody knows who you're talking about when

2080
01:47:45,160 --> 01:47:48,480
Speaker 2: you talk about Kanye West because he's forced the zeitgeist

2081
01:47:48,800 --> 01:47:50,000
Speaker 2: to pay attention to him.

2082
01:47:50,400 --> 01:47:53,599
Speaker 3: That's what UCF is doing. So whether or not they

2083
01:47:53,800 --> 01:47:58,120
Speaker 3: belong in a conversation that involves Lincoln Riley, who by

2084
01:47:58,240 --> 01:48:02,479
Speaker 3: the way, is a coach who's currently under contract, it

2085
01:48:02,600 --> 01:48:06,080
Speaker 3: doesn't matter because they're like, hey, Beyoncetate deserves that award,

2086
01:48:07,320 --> 01:48:10,960
Speaker 3: So I guess you belong on stage two. Okay, UCF,

2087
01:48:11,479 --> 01:48:14,200
Speaker 3: welcome to the conversation in the middle of the Conference

2088
01:48:14,320 --> 01:48:15,400
Speaker 3: Championship talks.

2089
01:48:15,680 --> 01:48:17,439
Speaker 2: Where have you been all season long?

2090
01:48:18,080 --> 01:48:22,960
Speaker 4: One word, Riz, that's really it.

2091
01:48:24,000 --> 01:48:26,040
Speaker 2: That's a great break. I love that for you, Rich.

2092
01:48:26,120 --> 01:48:27,040
Speaker 2: That was very well done.

2093
01:48:27,240 --> 01:48:30,000
Speaker 5: Okay, if we go back to the conference championship games,

2094
01:48:30,400 --> 01:48:33,000
Speaker 5: six of them today, I know you guys are Penn

2095
01:48:33,040 --> 01:48:35,360
Speaker 5: State Hawks. Okay, but put that to the side for

2096
01:48:35,439 --> 01:48:39,200
Speaker 5: a second. Which game are you most looking forward to?

2097
01:48:39,960 --> 01:48:43,360
Speaker 5: Put just your football fan maybe your sports better hat

2098
01:48:43,439 --> 01:48:46,840
Speaker 5: on right, put your Penn State allegiance to the side,

2099
01:48:46,840 --> 01:48:49,479
Speaker 5: because I know you're itching for that game against Oregon.

2100
01:48:49,520 --> 01:48:51,960
Speaker 2: How could you not be the first one team we

2101
01:48:52,120 --> 01:48:55,639
Speaker 2: got rich? Who's the number one the watch for you? Okay?

2102
01:48:55,800 --> 01:48:59,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I'm itching to say Oregon Penn State. But

2103
01:49:00,120 --> 01:49:04,920
Speaker 3: I will say this because of the turbulence of their

2104
01:49:05,080 --> 01:49:10,840
Speaker 3: season on George's side, and because of the recent war

2105
01:49:11,040 --> 01:49:15,559
Speaker 3: path that Texas has been on basically since they played

2106
01:49:15,640 --> 01:49:19,679
Speaker 3: against Georgia and loss to them earlier this season.

2107
01:49:20,600 --> 01:49:24,560
Speaker 2: It's the SEC championship game. I think it has. It

2108
01:49:24,680 --> 01:49:25,479
Speaker 2: has so much.

2109
01:49:25,680 --> 01:49:29,880
Speaker 3: Look, I mean, it's undeniable. Whether or not you love

2110
01:49:30,240 --> 01:49:33,720
Speaker 3: football or not. You're watching the Super Bowl right it's

2111
01:49:33,760 --> 01:49:36,640
Speaker 3: on in your house. Whether or not you love the

2112
01:49:36,720 --> 01:49:39,919
Speaker 3: fact that the SEC is touted as the best conference

2113
01:49:40,000 --> 01:49:43,920
Speaker 3: in football or not, You're turning on the SEC Championship

2114
01:49:43,960 --> 01:49:46,559
Speaker 3: game if you're a football fan, because there is an

2115
01:49:46,600 --> 01:49:50,400
Speaker 3: awareness that this game, this conference championship, means a little

2116
01:49:50,439 --> 01:49:53,760
Speaker 3: bit more than most And so I'll give it to

2117
01:49:53,800 --> 01:49:57,600
Speaker 3: the Longhorns and the Dogs today. That game has my

2118
01:49:57,720 --> 01:50:02,599
Speaker 3: attention also because of the quarterback conversation too, Manning and yours.

2119
01:50:02,880 --> 01:50:06,799
Speaker 3: The season that yours has had battling injury, Manning looking

2120
01:50:06,920 --> 01:50:11,040
Speaker 3: like an elite backup protege to the program, and then

2121
01:50:11,360 --> 01:50:13,880
Speaker 3: what we've seen with Beck. You know, can he pull

2122
01:50:13,880 --> 01:50:15,840
Speaker 3: a rabbit out of his hat even though it's been

2123
01:50:15,960 --> 01:50:18,040
Speaker 3: kind of a down year for him and it's been

2124
01:50:18,080 --> 01:50:21,200
Speaker 3: a very different feel around the Georgia Bulldogs program this year.

2125
01:50:21,920 --> 01:50:24,160
Speaker 4: There is zero doubt in my mind that the best

2126
01:50:24,400 --> 01:50:27,960
Speaker 4: aesthetically pleasing watch of the day is Oregon Penn State.

2127
01:50:28,040 --> 01:50:32,479
Speaker 4: The uniforms, the colors, the schemes, I mean, it will

2128
01:50:32,560 --> 01:50:36,519
Speaker 4: be a really good watch. But for the lack of bias,

2129
01:50:37,080 --> 01:50:39,880
Speaker 4: I will tell you that Kenny Dillingham and Arizona State

2130
01:50:39,920 --> 01:50:43,000
Speaker 4: playing in this game in the victory championship today is

2131
01:50:43,160 --> 01:50:47,440
Speaker 4: nothing short of a minor miracle. You need to appreciate

2132
01:50:48,360 --> 01:50:52,120
Speaker 4: these types of seasons when they happen, because with all

2133
01:50:52,240 --> 01:50:54,200
Speaker 4: of the parody in college football, for a team that

2134
01:50:54,320 --> 01:50:57,000
Speaker 4: had a win total of four and a half in

2135
01:50:57,080 --> 01:51:00,280
Speaker 4: the preseason that was one hundred to one to win

2136
01:51:00,360 --> 01:51:03,240
Speaker 4: the Big Twelve like this is member TCU a couple

2137
01:51:03,280 --> 01:51:06,000
Speaker 4: of years ago. It's reminiscent of that. I know tc

2138
01:51:06,160 --> 01:51:08,639
Speaker 4: was undefeated heading into this game, a little different vibe,

2139
01:51:09,080 --> 01:51:15,240
Speaker 4: but the just completely off the radar. Nobody had this

2140
01:51:15,600 --> 01:51:17,880
Speaker 4: on their Bengal card. A lot of people have Texas

2141
01:51:18,000 --> 01:51:21,080
Speaker 4: and Georgia in the game. A lot of people had Clemson, obviously,

2142
01:51:21,520 --> 01:51:22,920
Speaker 4: not a lot of people had Penn State, a lot

2143
01:51:22,920 --> 01:51:27,080
Speaker 4: of people had Oregon. To see Arizona State play in

2144
01:51:27,200 --> 01:51:31,880
Speaker 4: a Power Conference championship today is just it's remarkable. It's

2145
01:51:32,000 --> 01:51:32,840
Speaker 4: just unbelievable.

2146
01:51:33,160 --> 01:51:36,200
Speaker 5: No, that's great, and I'd have to say I'd go

2147
01:51:36,280 --> 01:51:38,519
Speaker 5: with the SEC title game. That's what I'm most looking

2148
01:51:38,560 --> 01:51:44,360
Speaker 5: forward to because look, Georgia stomped Texas the first go

2149
01:51:44,520 --> 01:51:48,240
Speaker 5: around in their building, and now all the steam is

2150
01:51:48,320 --> 01:51:51,679
Speaker 5: on Texas. This one from a pickum the Texas minus three.

2151
01:51:52,439 --> 01:51:55,240
Speaker 5: That's a huge amount of steam, and so I want

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Speaker 5: to see if Texas makes the adjustments Kirby smart, Georgia

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Speaker 5: does a nut on SEC team come in year one

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Speaker 5: and win the SEC Championship game. That's what Texas has

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Speaker 5: available for them today. I can't wait for that. And

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Speaker 5: I'm also looking forward to an overhand thrower of the football,

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Speaker 5: beating chest pass guy or girl, and the Doctor Pepper

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Speaker 5: tuition challenge. I'm hoping for that. I've got my fingers

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Speaker 2: Huh, let's go.

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Speaker 5: I'm Brian No, No Penn State ties for me. He

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Speaker 5: got the weekend off. Yeah, Baskig and Ball over here

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Speaker 5: with nothing on the line, rapid fire. We each have

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Speaker 5: three selections for you. We'll share them with you coming up.

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Speaker 5: They've got you covered. They come your way in just

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Speaker 5: Sports Radio. All right, we got some picks to make.

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Speaker 5: Let's do it, rap it fire.

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Speaker 2: All right, mister Jared Smith, what do you have for

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Speaker 2: us today? Budd?

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Speaker 4: All right, I'm taking the shame of special not a

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Speaker 4: lot of games today to choose from, but I like

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Speaker 4: Seamus's take on this game. I'm betting Iowa State minus

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Speaker 4: one against Arizona State. We saw the line flip. Iowa

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Speaker 4: State now favored. I think injury is a factor. Jordan

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Speaker 4: Tyson out for Arizona State. Benjamin Brahmer, the tight end

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Speaker 4: for Iowa State is back. He hasn't Playton's mid October

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Speaker 4: averaging nearly eighteen yards per reception. He will be a factor. Higgins,

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Speaker 4: Noel Hansen, Sama Jackson like, Iowa State just has better players,

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Speaker 4: and I think they will execute in this game.

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Speaker 2: Give me the Cyclones.

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Speaker 4: I'm also taking Luisa and Lafa yet minus five and

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Speaker 4: a half against Marshall in the Sun Belt Title. I

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Speaker 4: think the head coach for Marshall, Charles Hall, flirting with

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Speaker 4: all these other teams Southern miss He's up for that job.

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Speaker 4: We saw this play a factor with Tulane yesterday and

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Speaker 4: John some roll. If the head coach is not locked in,

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Speaker 4: I think it filters down to the rest of the team.

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Speaker 4: I like this Lafayette team. The Sun Belt title is

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Speaker 4: typically a blowout. All five of them have been decided

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Speaker 4: by seven or more points. Troy has just rolled the

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Speaker 4: last two years, so I think the Cagens get a

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Speaker 4: big win over Marshall. And I'm betting the over tonight

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Speaker 4: in the SEC title game, Georgia Texas over fifty and

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Speaker 4: a half. I don't think George is gonna be able

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Speaker 4: to put together another sixty minute elite defensive performance, and

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Speaker 4: I think Texas, with the weapons on the outside, we're

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Speaker 4: gonna see the Georgia run game get going a little

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Speaker 4: bit too. They're a little healthy on the old line,

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Speaker 4: so I'll take the over fifty.

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Speaker 2: And a half. All right, I got all dogs.

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Speaker 3: They're gonna go to heaven this weekend. In the conference

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Speaker 3: championship games. Let's start in the Big twelve Arizona State,

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Speaker 3: Kenny Dillingham. Let's see this thing finish out the right way,

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Speaker 3: the way the story book ending we're hoping for now.

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Speaker 3: Maybe the story's not over because this will gain him

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Speaker 3: entrance it to the postseason. But I got Arizona State

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Speaker 3: dog by a point. Give me the points there.

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Speaker 2: Moving on to the.

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Speaker 3: MAC title game. Nobody saw the Bobcats coming. Nobody thought

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Speaker 3: they had a chance to do what they've done this season.

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Speaker 3: Here they are in the conference final. They're dog by

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Speaker 3: two and a half against Miami of Ohio. It is

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Speaker 3: the the Battle of the Bricks. Give me the Bobcats

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Speaker 3: in that one. And how about our.

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Speaker 2: Penn State Nitney Lyons small game.

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Speaker 3: James finally reverse his course and he gets himself a

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Speaker 3: bye week to open the postseason. I got the Lions

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Speaker 3: dog three and a half in the Big Ten championship

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Speaker 3: game live from Indianapolis.

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Speaker 2: Let's go Lions.

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Speaker 5: Okay, all right, so uh man, this is this has

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Speaker 5: been unprecedented. Here never happened. I'm team Jared, I'm on

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Speaker 5: Iowa State minus one today. No, Jordan Tyson is massive,

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Speaker 5: huge and in the same rapid fire. I am Anti Ornberger. Wow,

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Speaker 5: give me Miami of Ohio minus two and a half.

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Speaker 2: Oh boy, okay, give me a have you left it?

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Speaker 5: Chuck Martin says, break and break it on. You're kidding me,

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Speaker 5: And then I'm also prepare for this one. Give me Quinn,

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Speaker 5: you weres under two hundred and thirty three and a

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Speaker 5: half passing. Okay, I'm gonna run it a little bit,

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Speaker 5: make it a little arch manning, make it a decent amount.

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Speaker 2: Of arch manning.

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Speaker 5: Give me under two thirty three and a half for Quinn.

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Speaker 5: Yours should be a fun day, guys.

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Speaker 2: Huh yeah, hope, yeah, we we are. Let's say plus

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Speaker 2: three and a half. A lease