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Speaker 2: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntire. What is up?

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Speaker 2: Straight firefam hits me Jason McIntyre Straight Fire for Tuesday,

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Speaker 2: October tenth. Your boy took in some postseason baseball last night. Yes,

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Speaker 2: I went to a Dodgers game. My buddy has tickets

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Speaker 2: and I went with him and two of his little kids.

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Speaker 2: It was a tough one for the Dodgers. Goodness gracious.

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Speaker 2: They give up three runs in the first and off

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Speaker 2: the Dodgers, you know, getting shelled with Clayton Kershaw on

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Speaker 2: the mound two days ago. It looked like deja vu

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Speaker 2: all over again, and the Dodgers could not complete the comeback.

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Speaker 2: There now down two folks the MLB postseason. And I

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Speaker 2: did get some grief from you, Jay, Why aren't you

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Speaker 2: talking about the baseball playoffs? Well, my Yankees aren't in it,

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Speaker 2: the Padres high payroll not in it, the Met's high

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Speaker 2: payroll not in it. And now the Dodgers are down.

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Speaker 2: Oh two folks MLB postseason. I know that you love

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Speaker 2: the storylines, but I couldn't tell you the starting pitching

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Speaker 2: rotation of the Minnesota Twins like it's I'm not doing

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Speaker 2: fantasy baseball I'm doing fantasy football five teams with my son, well,

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Speaker 2: three for me, two for him. I'm gambling. You know,

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Speaker 2: I missed out on the Packers on Monday Night, but

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Speaker 2: you know, if you did tease them and take the under,

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Speaker 2: I did mention that on the Herd, you were a winner.

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Speaker 2: We'll get to that shortly. But yeah, ultimately, postseason baseball

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Speaker 2: is a great thing and out in La good vibes.

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Speaker 2: It just stunk that they lost. But here's the real beauty.

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Speaker 2: The Wi Fi signal in Dodger Stadium was so good

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Speaker 2: that I was able to watch the Jordan Love poop

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Speaker 2: Show unfold in Vegas. Oh my gosh. I don't know

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Speaker 2: where to begin, because, like Jordan Love is one of

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Speaker 2: these guys where he was kind of a black box.

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Speaker 2: We don't know what's inside of him. And all summer

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Speaker 2: you heard David Bachtiari the coaching staff, well, we got

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Speaker 2: to preach patience. This could be a rebuild. We don't

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Speaker 2: know what we're getting. There was a lot of questions.

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Speaker 2: Then they look good in week one and you're like, oh, oh,

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Speaker 2: what do we have here? Little do we know the

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Speaker 2: Bears were that bad and that Aaron Jones hamstring injury

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Speaker 2: would be that significant. He's done nothing since then. I

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Speaker 2: played like a handful of plays last week against the Lions.

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Speaker 2: They shut him down quick as the Lion smacked him.

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Speaker 2: And so you know, Jordan Love hasn't had his best weapon.

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Speaker 2: And I don't really want to crush Jordan Love out here,

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Speaker 2: but JayR Alexander kind of did that for everybody last

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Speaker 2: night after the Packers lost to Rob G's Raiders seventeen thirteen.

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Speaker 2: Jordan Love had three picks, including one in the end zone.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm watching it at Dodger Stadium and

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Speaker 2: I see the push off by the cornerback in the interception.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, that's got to be a flag, right, No flag.

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Speaker 2: I didn't really go online to see if there was

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Speaker 2: a big kerfuffle about it. Buttheless, Jordan Love with three interceptions.

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Speaker 2: The numbers are ghastly. I'll get them to them in

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Speaker 2: a moment. But you can't be a Packers fan have

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Speaker 2: watched that performance on the heels of the disaster at

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Speaker 2: Lambeau last Thursday. You know what was that twelve days, nine,

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Speaker 2: ten and eleven twelve days ago against the Lions and think, wow,

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Speaker 2: all that extra time to prepare, and this is the

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Speaker 2: game plan they came up with. Really, I mean, we're

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Speaker 2: talking about a Raiders defense that, you know, Justin Herbert

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Speaker 2: went up and down the field healthy in the first half.

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Speaker 2: I think they had twenty four points at halftime. You're

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Speaker 2: talking about a Raiders defense that's just not very good.

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Speaker 2: I know they looked okay for moments against the Broncos,

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Speaker 2: and they looked okay against Kenny Pickett and the Steelers,

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Speaker 2: but ultimately this is not a talented Raiders defense outside

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Speaker 2: of Crosby, who was a beast, but that you expect

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Speaker 2: that from him. Again, the numbers on Jordan Love are

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Speaker 2: ghastly and Rob g was able to pull them for me.

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Speaker 2: Are you ready for this? Last two weeks? Passes over

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Speaker 2: five yards? That's just five yards? Okay, these are not

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Speaker 2: really far down the field. He's fourteen to thirty two,

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Speaker 2: zero touchdowns, five interceptions, a lion. Secondary ain't anything home

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Speaker 2: special home to write about. I butchered that line, but

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Speaker 2: you get the drift. Marcus Peters had like a resurgence,

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Speaker 2: you know, on Monday Night football for the Raiders. He's

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Speaker 2: not anything special and Jordan loves struggling mightily on passes

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Speaker 2: over twenty yards a season, Jordan loves six of twenty four,

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Speaker 2: we give him a mulligan and say, let's just preach

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Speaker 2: some patience with Jordan Love? Well, you know, Jay, he's

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Speaker 2: sat on the bench for three years, bind Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 2: three years, and he comes out looking this bad. And

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Speaker 2: now we'll hear some other people say, well, the argument

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Speaker 2: is Jason Jason, Jason like, look at brock Perty, look

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Speaker 2: Well'd you put Jordan Love in the Shanahan offense and

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Speaker 2: let's see what he can do? Okay, Well we could

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Speaker 2: try that. I guess does was it Lafleura on Shanahan Steff?

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Speaker 2: Oh that's right he was. Oh that's right. Lafleura and

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Speaker 2: Shanahan coach together. So that argument's out the window. And

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Speaker 2: all the people who crowned Lafleur are coaching genius for

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Speaker 2: all those thirteen and three seasons with Aaron Rodgers. Huh interesting,

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Speaker 2: Rogers leaves town there now two and three. We could

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Speaker 2: go ahead and hand, the division, the NFC, north Ton,

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Speaker 2: the Lions. I mean they are four and one. We

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Speaker 2: know the Bears ain't catching him. That Justin Jefferson news

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Speaker 2: sounds bleak. It's not official, but the way Kevin O'Connell's talking,

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Speaker 2: it sounds like Justin Jefferson is going to be out

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Speaker 2: for a minute. Fantasy tip, go get Jordan Addison if

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Speaker 2: he's not picked up already. I've got him on my

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Speaker 2: catch him. Now. Maybe I'm being too harsh, and again

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Speaker 2: we're talking about a five game sample size, but it

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Speaker 2: doesn't look like Jordan loves the guy. When he lines

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Speaker 2: is he as big as Justin Herbert. He looks commanding,

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Speaker 2: he looks nimble, He had a great scramble. I mean,

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Speaker 2: he looks the part. You look at Jordan love physically

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Speaker 2: looks the part. And then for whatever reason, I don't know,

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Speaker 2: if the processing is not there, if he's not used

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Speaker 2: to the defenses. The Raiders, we know they want to

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Speaker 2: any of it in that force on the interception that

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Speaker 2: just doesn't look like Love has it. This is one

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Speaker 2: You got to deliver there, buddy. Now you know. On

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Speaker 2: the super negative side, I was leading my picks pool.

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Speaker 2: I was ten and two this week, and for some

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Speaker 2: the Cowboys instead of the Niners. Keive out the Niners here.

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Speaker 2: I bet the Niners. I gave him out on the herd,

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Speaker 2: and somehow I landed on the friggin' Cowboys, so I

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Speaker 2: lost that. So I was now in second place, and

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Speaker 2: then I had the Packers, so I didn't win the pool.

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Speaker 2: I think at three thousand dollars every week, there's a

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Speaker 2: just devastating. Rob Nobody cares about my gambling trials and tribulations.

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Speaker 2: They care more about Jordan Love. Would you like to

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo is not great, and it wasn't great last night.

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Speaker 1: He is in great period. He hasn't been great this season.

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Speaker 1: He hasn't been great. He's basically his whole career. Look,

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Speaker 1: Jordan loved you brought it up. You want, as much

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Speaker 1: I hold him to a higher standard than most first

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Speaker 1: but some of the mistakes that he's making are just ghastly.

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Speaker 1: That first interception of Robert Spulane, I mean, you could

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Speaker 1: when you watch the instant replay and they show with

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Speaker 1: what the quarterback sees there are three raiders defenders all

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Speaker 1: it's picked by two guys. If he underthrows it, throws

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Speaker 1: just do it right to the linebacker interception. And we're

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Speaker 1: not for Raiders legend Jimmy Garoppolo, he would be leading

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Speaker 1: those were wide open, busted coverage, no one within fifteen

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Speaker 1: Oh god, Baker Mayfield first. I mean Mac Jones has

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Speaker 1: Obviously it worked out good for me. I'm a Raider fan.

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Speaker 2: But it's not like first time OC and Bobby Slowick

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Speaker 2: It's really tough to find him. And I think it's

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Speaker 2: pretty clear, Rob, You know, the Packers are not totally dead.

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Speaker 2: So it's tough to have these incendiary takes knowing that, like,

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Speaker 2: all right, we're at the quarter mark. Yeah, Jordan Love

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Speaker 2: rob But man, some of the quote like Daniel Jones,

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Speaker 2: Jordan Love has probably appeared in games. That's safe to say.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Kirk Cousins would be almost a low end.

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Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins is really good. Like I know, he gets

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Speaker 2: How did I bet on them? But yeah, like quarterback

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Speaker 2: crazy stat that Matt Canada of Pittsburgh has now completed

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Speaker 2: forty games as offensive coordinator. He has led the Steelers

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Speaker 2: to zero games of four hundred yards of total offense

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Speaker 2: in that time span forty games. Every other team in

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Speaker 2: the league has had at least four four hundred yard games.

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Speaker 2: The Steelers have zero. I mean, that's a massive sample size. Like,

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Speaker 2: Canada's got to be moved. You got to move on

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Speaker 2: from him. And then the question is, is Pickett the

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Speaker 2: guy and Pickets in that same is Mac Jones? Is

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Speaker 2: Jordan Love like the bucket is so big? Like Jimmy

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Speaker 2: Garoppolo is probably in that at the lower end of

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Speaker 2: the Dak Kirk grouping, right, absolutely, And then you just

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Speaker 2: gotta go ahead.

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Speaker 1: Well, I was gonna say, the difference between a guy

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Speaker 1: like Jimmy g and even like a Dak or whoever

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Speaker 1: who pick your favorite mediocre quarterback is you know, all

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Speaker 1: of both of them have a pension for throwing interceptions, right,

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Speaker 1: You know, Dak and Jimmy G. Jimmy G. I mentioned

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Speaker 1: Lee's the NFL. You know, Dak Prescott just set Twitter

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Speaker 1: ablaze on Sunday night with their on all those picks.

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Speaker 1: Here's the thing, this is a passing league in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: All the rules are slanted towards the offense for you

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Speaker 1: to be able to throw the ball effectively. Say what

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Speaker 1: you want about Dak Prescott and Jimmy G. They turn

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Speaker 1: the ball over a way too much. Obviously. Dak Prescott's

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Speaker 1: completing sixty nine percent of his passes, Jimmy G is

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Speaker 1: completing sixty eight percent of his passes. Jordan Love, who

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Speaker 1: again second in the NFL interceptions, completing fifty six percent

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Speaker 1: of his passes.

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Speaker 2: Oh gosh, Zach Will.

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Speaker 1: You can't have be both. If you're gonna be a

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Speaker 1: low completion percentage guy like Anthony Richardson's at fifty nine,

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Speaker 1: Kenny Pickett at fifty nine, even your boy Zach Wilson's

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Speaker 1: in sixty sixty one. No, if you're going to be

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Speaker 1: a low completion percentage guy, the least you can do

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Speaker 1: is protect the football. You're like, look, if we're not

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Speaker 1: going to hit a lot of passes and we're not

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Speaker 1: going to be efficient. Just don't turn it over. Like

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Speaker 1: you know, I'll take the incomplete, I'll take the throw away, whatever,

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Speaker 1: we'll punt, we'll play defense, we'll figure it out from there.

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Speaker 1: But when you're not completing passes and you're turning the

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Speaker 1: ball over, it's it's impossible to win. And it's funny

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Speaker 1: that you brought up Russell Wilson. I didn't want to

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Speaker 1: go sidetracked too much because I don't even know if

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Speaker 1: you saw the story. But late on Monday night, uh

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Speaker 1: is it Jordan Palmer, Jesse Palmer, he's a reporter friend

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Speaker 1: of on that way, I forget, I know it's. Palmer

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Speaker 1: reported on NFL Total Access that there's a sentiment in

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Speaker 1: the Broncos locker room that there's going to be a

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Speaker 1: house cleaning coming through. That they can all feel it,

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Speaker 1: they can all sense it, and everyone's kind of just

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Speaker 1: counting down the days before the trade deadline to figure

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Speaker 1: out who's going to stay and who's going to go.

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Speaker 1: And what's disappointing for me, you know, as a football

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Speaker 1: fan or as a fan of sports in general, is

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Speaker 1: there's going to be a handful of guys who are

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Speaker 1: hyper talented or getting paid too much or whatever it is,

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Speaker 1: and they're going to get traded for draft picks or

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Speaker 1: what have you, because the Broncos front office misjudged badly

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Speaker 1: on the quarterback and on the head coach, and they

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Speaker 1: gave up so many assets and such big contracts that

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Speaker 1: the only way to salvage this is to give up

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Speaker 1: everybody else to try to fix these two massive problems.

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Speaker 1: It's not Jerry Judy's fault that Champagne's a terrible coach.

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Speaker 1: It's not Patricksonatan's fault that the defense is defens on line

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Speaker 1: get two hundred pus yards wresting a game, right, But

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Speaker 1: those guys might be on the chopping block or on

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Speaker 1: the trade block because of the mistakes and the lack

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Speaker 1: of foresight related to Russell Wilson and Champagne. He just sucks.

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Speaker 2: Look at you. I didn't know. Rob Geeve is such

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Speaker 2: a bleeding heart kind of guy. Feel so bad, you know,

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Speaker 2: Jerry Judy the multi millionaire. No, I'm kidding. Let's wrap

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Speaker 2: up with h Well, two things. Number One, your Raiders

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Speaker 2: get much need to win, Rob. I just saw on

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Speaker 2: the schedule they are hosting the Patriots Sunday. Josh McDaniel's

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Speaker 2: student versus mentor Luke Skywalker. No, no, neither of them

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Speaker 2: is Luke Skywalker. It would be kind of interesting if Belichick,

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Speaker 2: desperate for a win, has historically owned his proteges, and

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Speaker 2: Josh McDaniel's delivered a near death blow to Belichick and

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Speaker 2: beat the Raiders. Raiders beat the Patriots and send New England.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that ends the season. If you lose this game,

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Speaker 2: it's I mean, I think it's over already, but it'll

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Speaker 2: officially end it. They'll have no chance with that schedule.

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Speaker 2: And wouldn't it be something to take it a step

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Speaker 2: further if like Jacoby Myers caught the game deciding touchdown,

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Speaker 2: Remember he was a Patriot, and people are like, why

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Speaker 2: do we lose Jacoby Myers? Why are we bringing in

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Speaker 2: Jujus to with Shuster? Like what are we doing? Why

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Speaker 2: are we paying DeVante Parker? And we lost Jacoby Myers?

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Speaker 2: It would be kind of sort of incredible. Now, I

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Speaker 2: don't know that that's gonna happen. I haven't dug into

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Speaker 2: that game yet, but Rob that's on the table. I

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Speaker 2: could possibly happen. I mean, that can's kind of sort

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Speaker 2: of fascinating in like a car wreck kind of way.

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Speaker 2: Like today, I was driving home on the four h

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Speaker 2: five from work and I see this like black cloud

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Speaker 2: of smoke. I'm like, holy cow, something's on fire. And

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Speaker 2: you don't you don't hear the fire trucks. You're like, oh,

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Speaker 2: must not be in a good area. It sounds super dangerous.

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Speaker 2: So everybody's slowing down on the highway. And then you

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Speaker 2: look over and there's like a car on fire on

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Speaker 2: like a side street in the four or five, and

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Speaker 2: he was like, oh, okay, flames. Everybody's slowed down to watch.

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Speaker 2: To me, that burning car at the side of the

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Speaker 2: road is Raiders Patriots.

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Speaker 1: I would agree it's it's it's going to be a

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Speaker 1: terrible game. I mean, the first to sixteen is probably

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Speaker 1: going to win. It has all the.

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Speaker 2: Makings football against them.

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Speaker 1: Come on, are you sure? I mean when they've been outscored,

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Speaker 1: what's eighty one to three, ninety seven to three, something

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Speaker 1: like that, the last nothing, it's like seventy five. It's

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Speaker 1: been bad. But look the Raiders. For as talented as

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Speaker 1: they are offensively Davante m Jacobe Myers, Josh Jacobs, even

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Speaker 1: count Hunter renfro, they have not scored more than eighteen

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Speaker 1: points in any game this season, so you know, make

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Speaker 1: of that what you will. But to your point, it

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Speaker 1: has all the makings of Jets Broncos, where it's like,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's going to be a bad game. But

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Speaker 1: the difference between that game and this one coming up

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Speaker 1: against with the Raiders Patriots is at least you had

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Speaker 1: the bad Blood factor where you're like, oh, I just

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Speaker 1: hope that hacker gets the win so we can stick

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Speaker 1: at the champagne, like I hope it happens. I hope

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Speaker 1: it happens, Like that's what you were rooting for. I

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Speaker 1: don't think we have that same like subplot here with

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Speaker 1: Raiders Patriots. It's just going to be a bad game

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Speaker 1: with two bad teams, and fortunately one of them is

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Speaker 1: going to walk away with a win. You would think

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Speaker 1: they'll find a way to time like three.

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Speaker 2: Is that a Taylor Swift song? Bad Blood? Nice usage

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Speaker 2: there of t Swift? Yeah, did you by the way,

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Speaker 2: did you see the note where Jim Nance said I

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Speaker 2: just need to announce that Taylor Swift is not in

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Speaker 2: the building here in Minnesota. Did you see that?

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Speaker 1: I did see that.

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Speaker 2: He said it during the game. Kind of crazy, all

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Speaker 2: right before we go quick. Rob, You're gonna love this.

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Speaker 2: It is a question. It's not related to the football,

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Speaker 2: but you guys know, obviously we love our NBA here

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Speaker 2: on the pod, and I know Rob was locked into

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Speaker 2: NBA preseason and the guy went to the Dodgers game

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Speaker 2: with Laker season ticket holder, so he's like, you know,

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Speaker 2: they're they're watching Lakers preseason scores and like they're into it.

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Speaker 2: And I scrolled through some highlights. Did you see what

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Speaker 2: Victor wembin Yama did against Oka? See? Have you seen

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Speaker 2: the highlights? Have you seen the statline? Oh?

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Speaker 1: I had the game on in the studio during the

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Speaker 1: odd couple. Bro, last night, I was locked in joke.

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Speaker 2: He was first of all, he took it at Chet

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Speaker 2: Holmgren like I don't know if it was a crossover

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Speaker 2: whatever it was, put on the deck, took him to

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Speaker 2: the rack, scored, Chet goes down and won, and Wemby

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Speaker 2: flexed on Chet home grin yeah. And then Chet went

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Speaker 2: on social media and was like, oh, elbow to the

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Speaker 2: face cool, And I was like, oh, here we go.

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Speaker 2: NBA is getting ready and listen, man, wembin Yama one

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Speaker 2: legged three? Did I see that? Right? Like? Bro, what

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Speaker 2: Ben Yama is. I'm sorry, I'm excited for him. I

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Speaker 2: had to ask my buddy. I was like, oh, I

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Speaker 2: haven't seen when the Spurs Lakers game is yet. Like,

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Speaker 2: I'm just telling you that's gonna be like it was

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00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 2: a spectrum out here out in LA. It's like has

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Speaker 2: Lakers games, and I'm gonna be like, that's like circles

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Speaker 2: it circle it on the calendar. Gotta watch one Yama,

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Speaker 2: I mean one Minyama's gonna catch some bodies. Rob you.

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Speaker 2: I know you're excited for him.

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Speaker 1: I am, but I tell you you know what I'm

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Speaker 1: equally excited for is che hoolm. Grin chet is my

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Speaker 1: pick for Rookie of the Year. Che Hoolmer. Watching watching

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Speaker 1: those two guys go at it like to seven foot

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Speaker 1: dude to weigh like one hundred and seventy five pounds together,

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Speaker 1: is you know it was? It was high comedy just

597
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 1: seeing their body types against other NBA players because they're

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00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 1: so thin. But then you watch them play and they

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00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 1: were easily the two best players on the floor.

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Speaker 2: Like it didn't make me, She goes, is Alexander on

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Speaker 2: the floor.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he played, No, he did not play Okay,

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00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 1: so yeah, it was Chet versus Wemby and they for

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Speaker 1: all the marble. They only played like less the eighteen

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Speaker 1: minutes together total, but I mean it was fantastic to watch.

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Speaker 2: You need to watch them early, just just in case.

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00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 2: You know, tall freakishly thin men with weird bodies and feet.

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00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:26,719
Speaker 2: They don't always last a full season, so catch them

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Speaker 2: early anyways. All right, that's a lengthy pod here on

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Speaker 2: her Tuesday. Enjoy it. We'll be back tomorrow. Talk to

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Speaker 2: you then,