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Speaker 1: to many questions I've always loved prus questionnaire. It was

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Speaker 1: the same sex relationship, yes, because you understand the person,

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Speaker 1: like ergonomically or spiritually, spiritually. I mean yeah, well so

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Speaker 1: I sort of both because you are the same gender

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Speaker 1: And also, you know, men and women are fed so

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Speaker 1: you know, it's so true. We ardiculate. We are raised

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Speaker 1: I do. I mean that's your well, look at lesbians

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Speaker 1: some point, and they're all great friends, and they're all

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Speaker 1: that's a case in point that you can move on

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Speaker 1: and women it's over and that's many years later. You

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Speaker 1: Oh God, I could talk to you for like, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna have to come as soon as we're all aloud.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to come find you in your remote location.

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Speaker 1: I'd glad you to come here. Oh my God, I

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Speaker 1: will come. I'll bring I'll come. I'll come play some music.

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Speaker 1: If you've got piano, bring my guitar. Yeah, we've got

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Speaker 1: it all. We've got it all. This has been fun.

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Speaker 1: Thanks many, I've a really enjoyed this. I'm really fascinated

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Speaker 1: and so grateful You've just shared your heart and your

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Speaker 1: life so generously. Thank you, my pleasure very much. All right,

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Speaker 1: let's love to you. In closing, I would like to

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Speaker 1: make you aware of some projects that Alan has coming up.

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Speaker 1: I think my particular favorite is a six part podcast

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Speaker 1: series for Audible about a sperm bank heist that he

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Speaker 1: produced and directed called Hot White Heist, starring Saturday Night Lives,

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Speaker 1: Bow and Yang, along with an ensemble of amazing people

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Speaker 1: He also has a show for Apple TV coming in

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Speaker 1: July called Shmigadoon, and another show for HBMX also coming

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Speaker 1: in July called The Prince. He is the busiest men

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Speaker 1: in show business? Quite right? Me Many Questions is hosted

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Speaker 1: and written by Me Mini d. Driver, supervising producer Aaron Kaufman,

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Speaker 1: Producer Morgan Lavoy, Research assistant Marissa Brown. Original music Sorry

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Speaker 1: Baby by a Mini Driver, additional music by Aaron Kaufman.

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Speaker 1: Executive produced by Me and man Gesh Hetty Cador. Special

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