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Speaker 1: Welcome to Creature feature production of I Heart Radio. I'm

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Speaker 1: your host of Many Parasites, Katie Golden. I studied psychology

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Speaker 1: and evolutionary biology, and today on the show, we're talking

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Speaker 1: about great parents. Hi, Mom and dad. The animal kingdom

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Speaker 1: is full of devoted parents whose child rearing skills are incredible, shocking,

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Speaker 1: and gross. Some parents would give you the shirts off

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Speaker 1: their backs and others would give you the skin off

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Speaker 1: their backs. We're talking thoughtful toads, families of frogs, doating plovers,

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Speaker 1: and parental packyderms. To discover the more as we answer

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Speaker 1: to the actual question is the first rule of Maccaque

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Speaker 1: Dad Club that you don't talk about Maccaque Dad Club.

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Speaker 1: Joining me today is our producer, Joel Monique and freelance writer,

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Speaker 1: comic book creator, author of the web comic But What If?

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Speaker 1: Though about superhero hijinks and parenthood activate Steph Williams. Hello, Hi,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining me. I am excited

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Speaker 1: to talk about parenthood despite me not being a parent

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Speaker 1: unless you count my dog, which most people would not.

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Speaker 1: I totally count it. So you are a mom. Well,

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Speaker 1: let me not say unfortunately, but unfortunately, I guess I

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Speaker 1: am a title that I am. We're proudly yeah. And

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Speaker 1: how old is your kiddo? He is four going on

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Speaker 1: forty two some days, some days fourteen. I just I

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Speaker 1: never know. I love little kids who act like old

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Speaker 1: people and or look like old people. When my brother

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's my older brother, so I have no

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Speaker 1: memory of it, but I look at photos and it's

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Speaker 1: extremely funny to me. He was cute, but he looked

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Speaker 1: like an angry, grumpy, little old man. Sometimes I'm just like,

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Speaker 1: you haven't been on this earth for a very long

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Speaker 1: time for his attitude. But also I get it, so

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Speaker 1: it's fine. It doesn't take too long to develop an attitude.

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Speaker 1: I don't think. But today we are going to talk

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Speaker 1: about some of the best parents in the animal world,

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Speaker 1: and by best I mean most creative, wildest, and most devoted.

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Speaker 1: And we will be handing out awards. But one might

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Speaker 1: say that the only award they need is the satisfaction

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Speaker 1: of raising children. I'm just kidding. Awards are really great.

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Speaker 1: I love awards. First, I want to talk about how

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Speaker 1: animals carry their young, like literally physically hold them, because

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Speaker 1: as humans, we have a pretty. I guess we kind

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Speaker 1: of take it for granted because we have hands and

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Speaker 1: we just pick them up, scoop them up, you know,

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Speaker 1: toss them over our shoulders. Will not toss gently, you know,

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Speaker 1: delicately hold the baby. I know how to hold a baby.

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Speaker 1: You're gentle by the time in the air, and they

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Speaker 1: really don't know the difference. You know, kick flip a baby. No,

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Speaker 1: don't kick flick the baby. I'm not saying that. But

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Speaker 1: you said on your show to kick flick the baby. No,

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Speaker 1: I didn't say that taken out a context. No, be

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Speaker 1: very gentle with the baby. You hold it, you support

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Speaker 1: its head. It's big, heavy head because babies they can't

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Speaker 1: hold those heads yet because they're so small and floppy.

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Speaker 1: But animals don't have well, I mean, some animals have hands,

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Speaker 1: but they don't well. Some animals do have opposable thumbs,

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Speaker 1: they often go to some extreme length to hold onto

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Speaker 1: So first I want to do some honorary mentions. Alligators

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Speaker 1: can look kind of horrifying because you see an alligator

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Speaker 1: But no, she just carries them over to the water

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Speaker 1: Pandem mothers will cradle their newborn young almost constantly because

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Speaker 1: who are actually getting the Animal Parent of the Year

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Speaker 1: awards awards, Awards awards. So in third place is the

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Speaker 1: horned marsupial frog. So I have provided you ladies with

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Speaker 1: a picture of one of these frogs. I think they

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Speaker 1: are awfully cute. They live in Columbia, Costa Ricua, Ecuador,

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Speaker 1: and Panama. Their tree dwelling frogs. There are little guys.

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Speaker 1: And some cool things about these little guys is that

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Speaker 1: so like some teamwork. Yeah, I can get into that.

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Speaker 1: for Kuala Deville and all of these things. Blue is gorgeous.

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Speaker 1: First of all, it's like the most it's it's not

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Speaker 1: to act just enough and stay on the ground long

426
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 1: enough that it really truly they sell the idea that

427
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 1: they are actually injured and but then they have to

428
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 1: try to escape, So it's a it's a bit of

429
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 1: a tricky balance to both like act injured long enough

430
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,959
Speaker 1: to draw the predator away from their nest, but not

431
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 1: too long that they actually get caught by the predator.

432
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 1: So really real high stakes method acting. Stick that in

433
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 1: your pipe and smoke at Daniel day Lewis this remind me, uh, like,

434
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 1: what do they call a stage? Moms like desperate to

435
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 1: get their kids a part. Yeah, it's like causing a

436
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 1: scene during somebody else's performance. What do oh no? And

437
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 1: then she's like, hopefully they never remember that kid's performance.

438
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 1: My baby's stopped? Or what are like, what are those

439
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 1: memes that are going around right now where videos where

440
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 1: the kids call their and say, hey, I'm being followed

441
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 1: right now. Um, I might get a speeding ticket. Act

442
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 1: as though, like you fell on the floor. This is

443
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:15,239
Speaker 1: very much thing. I haven't seen this a TikTok thing. Um,

444
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 1: it's a TikTok thing. I gotta get on the TikTok.

445
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 1: It's probably time all the cool kids are in second

446
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 1: place for parents who sacrifices the most. We are actually

447
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 1: going to talk about raya dad's rare dad's dads who

448
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 1: do at all? So this bird is cute and I

449
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 1: have never found a bird cut before. I'm so confused.

450
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 1: I'll convert you at a certain dinosaurs. Oh but you

451
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 1: know what, it's all the little baby birds around him.

452
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 1: Yeah you so. Ria's are large flightless birds related to

453
00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 1: EMUs and ostriches. They are found in South America and wetlands,

454
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 1: savannah and grasslands. So they weigh around sixty pounds, which

455
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 1: is abouts and they stand a little over four ft tall,

456
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 1: so about one point five meters tall. And they look

457
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 1: like a small emo. I would say, because that's what

458
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 1: I thought they were. Yeah, well they are. They are related,

459
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 1: so so yeah, all it all works out. It all

460
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 1: makes sense. And so males will advertise themselves to females

461
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 1: and if the female is impressed, they'll mate, and then

462
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 1: that's about as traditional as it gets. And then we

463
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 1: get into the crazy world of rhead ads. So the

464
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 1: male will lead the female to his nest after copulation

465
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 1: so she can lay her eggs. But he's so protective

466
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 1: of his nest he'll actually be aggressive towards the mother

467
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 1: of his own offspring and she approaches his nest, and

468
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 1: he'll only relax once he's completely convinced that all she's

469
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 1: there to do is lay her eggs and leave. And

470
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 1: the reason he's so on edge is that he is

471
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 1: a proud papa with a bunch of different mamas because

472
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 1: with multiple females and becomes a single dad of many

473
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 1: many mothers and raises a huge clutch of eggs. So also,

474
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 1: don't worry there is gender parody when it comes to sex.

475
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,959
Speaker 1: For the re Is, females will get it on with

476
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 1: multiple males as well, so they're having a good time

477
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 1: and then they don't even have to take care of

478
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 1: the eggs. So how do we sign up? Like why

479
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 1: if were like having a bunch of kids with a

480
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 1: bunch of different women, but like actively eager to just

481
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 1: be like, no, these are my children, now I run this.

482
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 1: It's not even the half of it, because males can

483
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 1: sometimes be responsible for up to eighty eggs at a time,

484
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 1: and each egg is is pretty big, so they're about

485
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 1: the size of like a mango. They're not as big

486
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 1: as an ostrich egg, but yeah, they they're still pretty sizeable.

487
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 1: I keep thinking about how it would make a great

488
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 1: poached egg, but that's maybe inappropriate. Right now we're talking.

489
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 1: We're all hungry. God would make a great omelet, but

490
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 1: he has to be because of predators like me that

491
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 1: wants to eat these these great omelets. He has to

492
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 1: be extremely protective of the nest to keep the eggs

493
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 1: safe as they incubate for six weeks, and he'll he

494
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 1: will deprive himself of food to keep watched, so he

495
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 1: may only get about a fourth of his normal amount

496
00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 1: of nutrition during this time because he's spending so much

497
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 1: time watching the nest. And right before the eggs hatch,

498
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:09,959
Speaker 1: this is really cute. The chicks inside the eggs will

499
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:14,359
Speaker 1: issue little pop rocket like calls, like little tiny fireworks

500
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 1: that helped them all coordinate their hatching so they all

501
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 1: come out more or less at the same time, which

502
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 1: is really important when you have a bunch of eggs

503
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 1: from a bunch of different mothers and one incredibly flustered,

504
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 1: stressed out dad. I want this movie or this TV

505
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 1: series right now, So instead of taking you know, let

506
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 1: me go save my kids, let me show you how

507
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 1: how I protect eighty eight of them all at the

508
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 1: same time. I want this. Give this one. Male can

509
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:52,399
Speaker 1: have one, right, Yes, yeah, I mean it'd be It'd

510
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 1: be the ultimate TLC show, wouldn't it. And I would

511
00:34:55,640 --> 00:35:03,400
Speaker 1: watch so fas maybe like eighty children others too. We

512
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 1: don't even Oh my god, I try to picture what

513
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 1: it must be like inside the eggs, like now no,

514
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,840
Speaker 1: not now, okay, that one wants to go, you feed

515
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:15,879
Speaker 1: up because we all need to be on the same

516
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 1: schedule here. Yeah. Now, I know a dad can like

517
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 1: father eighty of them, but how does he protect eighty

518
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,360
Speaker 1: Like are the father's nesting like near each year or

519
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 1: sadly probably not all of them are going to reach maturity,

520
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:31,400
Speaker 1: probably not even all of them are going to hatch.

521
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:35,400
Speaker 1: And typically like once they hatch, I would say the

522
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 1: whether or not they even start out with eighty, the

523
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:42,759
Speaker 1: group of like hatchlings is around I would say like

524
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:46,360
Speaker 1: twenty to thirty, which is still a lot, which is

525
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 1: still a lot. Uh, And once they hatch, he is

526
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 1: just extremely, extremely devoted to them, to the point that

527
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:59,760
Speaker 1: he will actually adopt missing chicks. So if one stressed

528
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 1: out dad accidentally leaves behind a chick and then it

529
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 1: bumps into another group with another stressed out dad, that

530
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 1: Dad's just gonna be like you want to mind. I

531
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:10,319
Speaker 1: don't care. Get in here. We're all, we're all, we're

532
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 1: all getting ice cream. Wow. What a phenomenal dream Daddy

533
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 1: Bird Edition. I love these dad bods on these dad birds. Ah,

534
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 1: these are some lucky bird women bird ladies. Just like

535
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:34,319
Speaker 1: it's there's something so there's something so hot about a

536
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 1: guy who is a devoted dad. And I would say

537
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 1: that these birds, I mean, these are just like the

538
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:46,240
Speaker 1: dad birds of the year. I'm not saying that. I'm

539
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 1: not saying I think these birds are hot. I'm saying theoretically,

540
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Yeah, I think he might

541
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 1: be the most impressive dad the animal pean. I know

542
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 1: we're not done with our yet, but he's obviously a

543
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 1: front running contender for sure. Yeah, he truly deserves the

544
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:09,360
Speaker 1: mug that says number one dad. If you have a

545
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 1: mug that says number one dad, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

546
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:15,359
Speaker 1: Put that mug down. Give it to aurea. You're not

547
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 1: doing it. I'm sorry. But in first place for the

548
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 1: parent that makes the most sacrifices is the octopus. Because

549
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:31,919
Speaker 1: octopus mothers will take care of their young to such

550
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 1: an extent that they will completely exhaust their resources and

551
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 1: they will actually die. It's one of those things where

552
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:46,880
Speaker 1: it's kind of beautiful, but it's also extremely tragic and

553
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:51,319
Speaker 1: at the same time incredibly fascinating how this works. So

554
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 1: octopus mothers, or as I like to call them, octomoms, remember, remember, guys,

555
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 1: remember Fortunately, yes, absolutely sadly, they are some of the

556
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 1: most devoted and self sacrificing mothers in nature. They reproduce

557
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 1: only once and they really make it count. So, after

558
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 1: a female octopus mates, she will find a din, lay

559
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 1: her eggs, and then devote the rest of her life

560
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 1: caring for all of her eggs. So she doesn't eat,

561
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 1: she doesn't go anywhere. All she does is protect them

562
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 1: and carefully woff water over them, which aerates them so

563
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 1: they get fresh oxygen. And for some species this process

564
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 1: has been recorded as lasting up to fifty three months. Yes,

565
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,799
Speaker 1: so you may be wondering, well, how can an octopus

566
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 1: live without eating for fifty three months? That can't possibly

567
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:57,760
Speaker 1: be true. Well, for some octopuses, their din is deep

568
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 1: in the ocean in very cold old waters, and her

569
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:07,760
Speaker 1: activity drops to almost being in a state of stasis

570
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 1: where she is just covering her eggs, maybe gently wafting

571
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 1: some water and aerating them. But that's all she does,

572
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 1: so she's in a state of suspended motherhood, which is

573
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 1: kind of eerie. It's it's strange that sounds like a

574
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 1: horror movie. It does a little bit doesn't really honestly does.

575
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 1: But also at the same time, the dedication in my

576
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 1: head is off to her beautiful but also chilling. I

577
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:39,839
Speaker 1: don't know's i'd I imagine a sweet smile with like

578
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 1: a very eerie sound coming from like a music box.

579
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 1: This is what I'm picturing right now. I've never seen

580
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 1: the movie Mother but and I know it has absolutely

581
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 1: nothing to do with octopus. But that's just going to

582
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:56,320
Speaker 1: be for no one. Do we know that for sure?

583
00:39:57,120 --> 00:40:01,240
Speaker 1: I'll find out there's in a cold Kidman ghost movie,

584
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 1: or she just is a ghost and she stays with

585
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 1: her children. Do you guys know this movie? Yes? For um,

586
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 1: I think there's so many ghost small movies though others. Yes,

587
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:16,799
Speaker 1: I remember this movie. Listen, it's a two thousand one

588
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 1: horror movie. If you're interested and your parents say it's okay,

589
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:24,839
Speaker 1: check it out. It's super good. But listen, like she

590
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 1: is just like a down to ride moms. I want

591
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 1: to take care of these kids. And I'm gonna protect

592
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 1: them from these weird new people living in our house

593
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 1: that I don't know and I don't like, and I

594
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 1: just really, I really respect it. And again she died

595
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 1: protecting them, and even after death, still watching over them.

596
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 1: I thought you, I forgot that you were talking to

597
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 1: our audience, and I thought you were telling me to

598
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 1: ask mind her permission me too to watch this movie.

599
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 1: I'm an adult. I'm an adult. I know what I want.

600
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:58,399
Speaker 1: Because I definitely was going to call my mom like, hey, yeah,

601
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 1: remember this. I do love you, Mom and dad. If

602
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 1: you're listening, they do listen, So Hi, Mom and Dad,

603
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 1: I love you. After I'm awarding all of these animal

604
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:12,839
Speaker 1: parents number one, this and that, but you're the real

605
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 1: number ones, Mom and Dad. They're the ones. They are

606
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 1: very nice. I'm glad they're not like these animal parents though,

607
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 1: because that would be weird. So the octopus mothers do

608
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:36,360
Speaker 1: this insane strategy because it helps protect the eggs and

609
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:39,799
Speaker 1: gives them enough time to grow big enough that when

610
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 1: they hatch, they have a much better chance of survival

611
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 1: for a lot of ocean dwelling animals. When these eggs hatch,

612
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 1: they're so teeny tiny that most of them end up

613
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 1: just as snack food for other fish. So by investing

614
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 1: all of this time and energy into caring for her eggs,

615
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 1: first of all, she protects the eggs themselves from getting

616
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 1: eaten up. And by being so devoted to them for

617
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 1: so long, it gives them a chance to get a

618
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 1: little bigger so that they have a much higher survival rate.

619
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:19,280
Speaker 1: And research has shown that octopus mothers are pre programmed

620
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 1: to self destruct after laying and hatching their eggs. So

621
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 1: it's not just that like you can't go up to

622
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 1: a mother octopus and hand her like some kind of

623
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:34,959
Speaker 1: like octopus chow and she she won't eat it. She's

624
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,839
Speaker 1: just not interested. They refuse food that's offered to them,

625
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:43,240
Speaker 1: and in captivity, after their eggs hatch, they go into

626
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 1: this weird self destruct sort of zombie mode where they

627
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 1: actually will sometimes bang their head against the fish tank

628
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:57,280
Speaker 1: to like go into this death spiral. It's super super

629
00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 1: horrifying and weird. Um they'll even like start to just

630
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 1: like chew off their own tentacles. It's like, I know,

631
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 1: it's like it's like a zombie movie but with a

632
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:15,840
Speaker 1: mom like mom bees, I'm sorry, but I'm so weirdly, Um,

633
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 1: I feel inspired by this in a creative way. In

634
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:26,319
Speaker 1: a creative way, but this is just don't eat your

635
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:33,799
Speaker 1: own hand I okay. I feel like if I tried

636
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 1: to put this in a movie, people like, what do

637
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:40,359
Speaker 1: you try to say about moms? Was done with raise

638
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 1: your children? Die now? Although maybe I'll be like, that's

639
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 1: what society tells moms to do. Okay. It does seem

640
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:49,919
Speaker 1: a little anti feminist, doesn't it. I'm just so sad.

641
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:54,720
Speaker 1: Why did nature do this? Explain this so extreme? Nature

642
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 1: only cares if you pass on your jeans, that's all

643
00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 1: it cares about. I know it's a weird thing to

644
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:06,719
Speaker 1: think about, but researchers have actually identified the part of

645
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 1: the octopus that seems to be responsible for this self

646
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:13,439
Speaker 1: destruct thing. There's like a literal self destruct button. It's

647
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 1: called the optic gland. It's a gland similar to the

648
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 1: pituitary gland in land animals. The pituitary gland is something

649
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 1: that regulates hormones, and in octopuses it seems to do

650
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:30,360
Speaker 1: the same thing. So when this optic gland is removed,

651
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:34,799
Speaker 1: the female octopuses, after laying their eggs, just abandoned them

652
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 1: kept eating kept mating when about life as normal. So

653
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 1: it seems like this optic gland has some kind of

654
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 1: hormone regulation that programs the mother octopus to sacrifice herself

655
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:52,799
Speaker 1: for her young. So much sci fi good, it just

656
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 1: makes no sense. Could you imagine a movie where they

657
00:44:56,640 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 1: send women to this island or whatever they implant this

658
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 1: thing and it's so terrible? Someone right there island up

659
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:08,320
Speaker 1: the octowomen? How is this not a movie from the

660
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 1: nineteen fifties. I don't really. It really fits in with

661
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:17,239
Speaker 1: like the whole fifties philosophy of women being mothers and

662
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 1: housewives too, you'd think, right, I mean, I guess like

663
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:25,440
Speaker 1: Stepford Wives and Handmaid's Tale does kind of like touch

664
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 1: on these kinds of themes. But we haven't had a

665
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:32,799
Speaker 1: movie where there are mom octopus hybrids, and I think

666
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:36,399
Speaker 1: we need one. I mean, why not? Yeah? Why not?

667
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 1: I think this is a really cool joke of nature.

668
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:43,319
Speaker 1: Like I I really like people be like nature, like

669
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 1: you crazy, you know, but nature? What the hell? It's

670
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 1: just really need? Do you ever thinks like aggressive? I

671
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 1: do not like it. Yeah. Well they're off to fish

672
00:45:57,120 --> 00:46:01,880
Speaker 1: college now die, They're not actually fish. I'm sorry. I

673
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 1: apologize for that joke for being inaccurate. They are not fish.

674
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:10,360
Speaker 1: Their cephalopods also, just so you don't feel like there's

675
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:14,359
Speaker 1: some kind of gender inequity here. Um. Male octopuses also

676
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 1: don't really last that much longer after after they fertilize

677
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:21,799
Speaker 1: their eggs, which is kind of odd. They have a

678
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 1: pretty short lifespan, only about two years, so it's not

679
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 1: like the males go off and have a long life

680
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 1: ahead of them. It's it's just to me, it's actually

681
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:34,440
Speaker 1: really sad. I love octopuses. They're really intelligent, and I

682
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 1: kind of hate that they have such a short lifespan.

683
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 1: I want I know this is getting into sort of

684
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 1: the mad science kind of playing god territory, but if

685
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:47,320
Speaker 1: we could like figure out how to genetically engineered octopuses

686
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:52,839
Speaker 1: that live longer and have fulfilling lives and hobbies, I'd

687
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 1: be happy. And they just down there and then they'll

688
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 1: be our overlords because that what happened, and like, yeah,

689
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 1: but it's fine, but they's but they're they're cute and playful.

690
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:10,400
Speaker 1: They like squirt water at aquarium keepers and stuff, so

691
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 1: I feel like they'd be fun overlord. I'd take it

692
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 1: to Octopuses aren't the only animal moms who die shortly

693
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 1: after they're young are born. There are many other similar

694
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:26,919
Speaker 1: Paris animals. That is, animals who reproduce once and die

695
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:30,759
Speaker 1: soon after. This includes salmon who spawn and spend so

696
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 1: much energy on their upstream migration that they go right

697
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 1: to salm and heaven. May flies adult forms live for

698
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:41,759
Speaker 1: only twenty four hours, just long enough to mate and

699
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:46,360
Speaker 1: kick the bucket and mail marsupial mice well mate themselves

700
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:50,279
Speaker 1: to death when we return. Will conclude on a lighter note,

701
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 1: parents who not only go on to have more than

702
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 1: one kid, but grow up with their children and their grandchildren,

703
00:47:57,239 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 1: and sometimes they're great grandchildren. Now we're going to talk

704
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:11,880
Speaker 1: about animal babysitters Clubs, which is actually a book series

705
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:14,800
Speaker 1: that I never read as a kid because it sounded

706
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:20,479
Speaker 1: super boring. You don't be mad about Babysitters club right now, really,

707
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sure it's great, but to

708
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 1: me as a child, I was like, I want to

709
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:30,840
Speaker 1: read a book about like fighting bears or something. I

710
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:34,240
Speaker 1: don't want to read a book about babysitting. That's barring

711
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 1: beautiful friendship. And Claudia with the style, if you like replaced,

712
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 1: if you replace like half of the babysitters with like

713
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 1: maybe various animals, like you know, there's Claudia and Betty,

714
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:49,799
Speaker 1: and I don't actually know their names. But then like

715
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 1: Cynthia is like like a lion, and she may babysit

716
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 1: or she may nibble some of them, you don't know,

717
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:03,840
Speaker 1: more like a sloth, like watching the kids from a

718
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:08,279
Speaker 1: farm but not really paying a definitely not moving fast

719
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 1: enough to keep up with these babies. Combine the genres

720
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 1: of animorphs and babysitters club and I'm sold on your mind,

721
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:17,800
Speaker 1: because since they're actually in my mind. I was thinking

722
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 1: that right now because I've only seen the movie. I've

723
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 1: never read the books because same I said, now, why

724
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 1: would I want to read about what I do every

725
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 1: day with my brothers? So scientifically speaking, because I'm a

726
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:39,640
Speaker 1: huge nerd, babysitters clubs in nature is called elo parenting.

727
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:44,320
Speaker 1: So that's when you have individuals other than the parents

728
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 1: helping to look after the young. And this actually happens

729
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:55,919
Speaker 1: relatively often, especially in more intelligent animals, and it's adorable

730
00:49:56,080 --> 00:50:00,319
Speaker 1: every time, and I love it. So we're gonna talk

731
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 1: about some of the best babysitters clubs in the wild.

732
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:08,239
Speaker 1: So in third place is the cotton top tamarinds, who

733
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:13,920
Speaker 1: are adorable, the cutest. I love these little monkeys they are.

734
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:19,440
Speaker 1: They're so cute. I actually used to take care of

735
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:24,720
Speaker 1: cotton top tamarinds. Uh. They were in a behavioral study

736
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 1: and I would feed them, and sadly I couldn't like

737
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 1: cuddle them because it was like all extremely regulated, like

738
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 1: you don't want to touch them, and you don't want

739
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:35,799
Speaker 1: to like you know, it's like all these concerns about

740
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:38,359
Speaker 1: passing on diseases. So I was in like full like

741
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 1: you know, protective gear to protect them from my nasty

742
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:47,240
Speaker 1: human germs. But they were so cute and they would

743
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:50,919
Speaker 1: like tug on my lab coat and like I would

744
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:53,400
Speaker 1: have like a handful of raisins that I could feed

745
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:55,759
Speaker 1: them because like they loved raisins, and it was just

746
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 1: like like they would like tug on me and be

747
00:50:57,680 --> 00:50:59,840
Speaker 1: like I want to raise the So how did you

748
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 1: explode from all the cuteness? I don't know. I don't know.

749
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:08,880
Speaker 1: They were extremely extremely cute. So they are found in

750
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 1: tropical forests in mostly in Colombia. They are really small

751
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 1: monkeys actually one of the world's smallest. They grow only

752
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 1: about ten inches, which is about cis long. Uh, and

753
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:24,439
Speaker 1: that's not including their tail. They actually have a long

754
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 1: tail which is about uh fifteen inches or forty cimeters long,

755
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:35,719
Speaker 1: So they're mostly tail, but they are teeny tiny. They

756
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 1: have these little grayish black faces and then these huge

757
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:45,760
Speaker 1: white hair dues that are these like tufts of wild

758
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:48,719
Speaker 1: fur on the tops of their heads and on their chest.

759
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 1: They kind of look they have Einstein hair, you know

760
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:55,280
Speaker 1: what I mean? Yes, or you could listen children again,

761
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:59,439
Speaker 1: ask your parents, but if you could see mad Max

762
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:06,600
Speaker 1: thunder Joel has this white like poof streak afro straightened

763
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:10,239
Speaker 1: thing going on, and it's identical to what's happening on

764
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:16,880
Speaker 1: the contact Heir and so bears. It's so cute, can confirm.

765
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:19,919
Speaker 1: And their little tummies are also white and fluffy. They're

766
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 1: they're just they kind of look a little bit like

767
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:26,920
Speaker 1: an orchestra conductor with their wild white hair and then

768
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:29,000
Speaker 1: like these little it almost looks like they're wearing a

769
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:32,400
Speaker 1: little tuxedos. It's they're very cute. They are extremely cute,

770
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:39,720
Speaker 1: and they're very very emotionally intelligent. They are critically endangered sadly,

771
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 1: and they're just so there are such sweet little animals.

772
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 1: They have this really interesting breeding strategy. So groups of

773
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 1: these tamarinds, which are typically families that can be around

774
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:58,319
Speaker 1: tin individuals, will care for a set of twins from

775
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:03,279
Speaker 1: the dominant breeding pair. So the there's a dominant pair

776
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:06,839
Speaker 1: who and they almost always give birth to twins, which

777
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 1: is really interesting, and they will this whole group will

778
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:13,719
Speaker 1: just take care of the twins and like lavish all

779
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:17,520
Speaker 1: their attention on these newborns, on these little babies, and

780
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:21,840
Speaker 1: the dominant mother actually tries to make sure that she's

781
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 1: the only one giving birth at that time by expressing

782
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:30,280
Speaker 1: pheromones that delays puberty and prevents other females from breeding

783
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:33,360
Speaker 1: at that time, so that they all can just devote

784
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:36,280
Speaker 1: all of their time and intention to these two little babies.

785
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 1: Humans need, when need, the ability to do exactly this.

786
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:45,479
Speaker 1: Like we're all gonna raise this baby at a time.

787
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:48,319
Speaker 1: I think everyone could get a nap. Steph could keep

788
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:51,919
Speaker 1: her snacks, alright, it's no problem, Yeah, snacks, I'm gonna

789
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:54,879
Speaker 1: get the kids. Snacks were totally fine. We're distracting him

790
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 1: with games, you know, we're using our very long tails

791
00:53:57,719 --> 00:54:00,440
Speaker 1: to sling around. I don't know, I really enjoy the

792
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:06,280
Speaker 1: idea of this communal child. Yeah, well to two children

793
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 1: at two babies twins so cute, and it is it's

794
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:15,400
Speaker 1: actually for the exact reason that you are saying. It

795
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:19,279
Speaker 1: is so that they because if you can imagine like

796
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:22,720
Speaker 1: two parents taking care of two little twins, and they're

797
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 1: like literally little monkeys, so you know, all the mischief

798
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:28,960
Speaker 1: they're trying to get into and it's really difficult. But

799
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:31,279
Speaker 1: when you have a whole group taking care of them,

800
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:36,200
Speaker 1: the survival rate of these little babies is much much improved.

801
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:38,839
Speaker 1: And you may be wondering, little what's in it for

802
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:42,000
Speaker 1: the other Tamarins who are not parents, like they don't

803
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 1: get to be parents. But the thing is that the

804
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 1: composition of these groups changes. So as those babies grow

805
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:51,879
Speaker 1: up and they are become independent, now you have new

806
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:56,000
Speaker 1: mothers that and new fathers that become the new dominant

807
00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:58,440
Speaker 1: breeding pair in their own group, which can have like

808
00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:00,880
Speaker 1: parts of the old group. It can they change it up.

809
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:04,640
Speaker 1: So then basically what you get is that younger females,

810
00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 1: younger males learn how to be parents, and then they

811
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:10,480
Speaker 1: can go on and then become parents themselves, and then

812
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:14,560
Speaker 1: they have their own group of very helpful youngsters to

813
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:18,640
Speaker 1: help them raise their children. So it's a really successful strategy,

814
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:21,480
Speaker 1: and I think it's really sweet, and they all behave

815
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:27,120
Speaker 1: very altruistically. They'll share food, they'll babysit, they're really excited

816
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:30,680
Speaker 1: by it to like the younger monkeys like often really

817
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:32,840
Speaker 1: really want to spend time with a baby, and sometimes

818
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:34,719
Speaker 1: they can't even spend as much time as they want

819
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:37,560
Speaker 1: to because they're younger. And the older ones who are like, hey, hey,

820
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:39,560
Speaker 1: like you know, calm down, like you don't know what

821
00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:44,880
Speaker 1: you're doing. I okay. Imagine a world where everyone's had

822
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:46,319
Speaker 1: an opportunity to know what it's like to be a

823
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:49,520
Speaker 1: parent before you have to actually be a parent. You

824
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:52,480
Speaker 1: have so many more healthy adults. But I mean, it's

825
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:54,200
Speaker 1: not enough to learn how to take care of a

826
00:55:54,239 --> 00:56:00,800
Speaker 1: sack of flower for a week, and or I've learned

827
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:03,799
Speaker 1: you cannot get your child wet or else they get

828
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:08,600
Speaker 1: all stucky. I mean, isn't it? It's true? A little

829
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:12,360
Speaker 1: a little true, And you shouldn't make your child to

830
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:15,440
Speaker 1: turn your child into cookies because then you get a

831
00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:23,799
Speaker 1: d and you come Jeffrey, what happened? I mean, you

832
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:26,560
Speaker 1: know you have it, you have your baby sack of flour.

833
00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:29,400
Speaker 1: What's the harm and using a couple of cups of

834
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:35,760
Speaker 1: those to make some delicious nickerdoodles. But apparently it's you're responsible, boom.

835
00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:41,400
Speaker 1: But in second place for cutest babysitter club is the

836
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:45,880
Speaker 1: Barbary macaques, So again we're sticking with the primates. These

837
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:50,560
Speaker 1: are monkeys found in Algeria and Morocco in the Atlas Mountains,

838
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:54,600
Speaker 1: and there's a small group in Gibraltar. So they are

839
00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:59,200
Speaker 1: these they're bigger than the cotton top tamarins. There this

840
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:03,560
Speaker 1: light yellowish brown and they're very fluffy. They weigh around

841
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:06,239
Speaker 1: twenty to thirty pounds. They're they're about like ten to

842
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:09,799
Speaker 1: seventeen ms. Males tend to be heavier and bigger than

843
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:13,480
Speaker 1: the females, and they have these little pinkish faces and

844
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:17,440
Speaker 1: little stubbed tails, and they are very very cute. Their

845
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:20,439
Speaker 1: faces look a little bit like me after I get

846
00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:26,680
Speaker 1: sunburned at a beach. Not anymore, I'm staying inside all

847
00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:31,560
Speaker 1: the time now. Those sunburns for me healthiest skin ever.

848
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:37,240
Speaker 1: So like cotton topped tamarinds, they also engage in collective

849
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:40,200
Speaker 1: parenting where they just take care of each other's young.

850
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:44,960
Speaker 1: It's just this one big whole parents club and they

851
00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:48,200
Speaker 1: love it. And to the point where Barbara Macaque males

852
00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:52,040
Speaker 1: love to show off their young to other males. It

853
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:54,439
Speaker 1: doesn't even have to be their own kids. They will

854
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:57,400
Speaker 1: pick up a random baby and show it off to

855
00:57:57,480 --> 00:58:03,160
Speaker 1: each other and form this dad club. And they use

856
00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:07,160
Speaker 1: the babies as an ice breaker to interact socially with

857
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:09,200
Speaker 1: each other, like, hey, look at this baby I've got,

858
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:10,840
Speaker 1: And then the other one's like, oh yeah, well look

859
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:13,240
Speaker 1: at my baby. It's like I like your baby too,

860
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:17,520
Speaker 1: and they just form. It's like it's like Pokemon, but

861
00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:20,439
Speaker 1: with babies, and they love showing them off. They don't

862
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:22,720
Speaker 1: make them fight, but they do love showing them off.

863
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:26,280
Speaker 1: I love this so much. It makes me think of

864
00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:31,120
Speaker 1: daddy daycare, but just a little primates. It's the cutest

865
00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:35,480
Speaker 1: thing because who doesn't love a dad who knows what

866
00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:39,600
Speaker 1: their child likes? You know, there doesn't love a proud dad.

867
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:44,800
Speaker 1: Many times where I tell my husband, hey, I'm tapping

868
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:48,880
Speaker 1: out for about an hour, um see y'all when I

869
00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:51,640
Speaker 1: wake up, and he's proud to take up take them in.

870
00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:54,240
Speaker 1: They play Mario and they do things, and I'm pretty

871
00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:56,880
Speaker 1: sure if there was like a dad coalition outside, he'd

872
00:58:56,920 --> 00:58:59,480
Speaker 1: bring them take her son outside and hold him up

873
00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:04,840
Speaker 1: like some We need more dad clubs. We can go

874
00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:08,080
Speaker 1: outside again. Whenever that happens, When we can go outside again,

875
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:11,240
Speaker 1: this is look. We are preparing for a new world

876
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:15,680
Speaker 1: post pandemic, and we need to start starting the plans

877
00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:18,840
Speaker 1: for dad clubs, right, like clubs for dads to show

878
00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:21,760
Speaker 1: off their kids and have fun together as dads and

879
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:24,760
Speaker 1: do all little dad things, like all the things that

880
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:30,240
Speaker 1: make you cringe as them all. I can't even I

881
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:33,840
Speaker 1: feel like I can't like joke about what dads would

882
00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:37,080
Speaker 1: do together without being insulting. But I do imagine things

883
00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:41,760
Speaker 1: like laughing about farts and stuff. But maybe that's generalizing.

884
00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:50,400
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, no, So I've heard for fart jokes before recording,

885
00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:55,080
Speaker 1: so it's not far and actually and I gave one

886
00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:59,440
Speaker 1: of those jokes. So we do need gender parody when

887
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:02,960
Speaker 1: it comes to fart jokes. That's another another change that

888
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:06,040
Speaker 1: we have to make in the better, brighter world post

889
01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:15,360
Speaker 1: post quarantine. So the collective parenting and social parenting with

890
01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:19,240
Speaker 1: these barbary macaques, but in other animals as well. Solves

891
01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:24,000
Speaker 1: this problem of uncertain parenthoods. So when you can't be

892
01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:28,920
Speaker 1: certain of paternity, so you can either like compete or

893
01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:31,680
Speaker 1: try to guard the females, make sure she doesn't mate

894
01:00:31,720 --> 01:00:34,400
Speaker 1: with anyone else. You can like, they're even strategies of

895
01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:38,080
Speaker 1: killing the offspring of other males, and it can get

896
01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:41,360
Speaker 1: quite nasty. Or you can go in the other direction

897
01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:45,360
Speaker 1: and just decide, hey, instead of just being jerks to

898
01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:48,440
Speaker 1: each other, let's just collectively raise all are young together

899
01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:51,600
Speaker 1: so that they all have a better chance at survival.

900
01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:53,840
Speaker 1: And then we don't even have to worry about whose

901
01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:57,680
Speaker 1: kids who or or whose name? Water? You know, whose

902
01:00:57,880 --> 01:01:01,840
Speaker 1: sippy cup is? Whoever sippy cup? I think it's beautiful

903
01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:05,320
Speaker 1: down with the patriarchy, no last name, none of them.

904
01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:07,800
Speaker 1: You belong to no man. We are a group of

905
01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:13,640
Speaker 1: people perspective. I'm down for all of this. I feel

906
01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:17,919
Speaker 1: like this has been such an aggressively feminist episode Moms

907
01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:24,840
Speaker 1: Yes to the point of absurdity, where it's like men

908
01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:28,560
Speaker 1: should have eighty children at once and take care of

909
01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:32,880
Speaker 1: them all by themselves. Oh great world, And men were

910
01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:34,920
Speaker 1: distracted with children all the time, they could not be

911
01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:37,919
Speaker 1: getting us into so much trouble. Okay, where you could

912
01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:42,680
Speaker 1: be out doing things right angry comment or we'd goku

913
01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:47,200
Speaker 1: for twenty saying like this is this is sexist against men.

914
01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:50,840
Speaker 1: You want us to raise eighty children by ourselves? What

915
01:01:51,520 --> 01:01:56,080
Speaker 1: literally do you want us to take care of eighty eggs?

916
01:01:56,120 --> 01:02:02,520
Speaker 1: Feminism has gone too far? I'm sorry, we'd go. I

917
01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:10,240
Speaker 1: truly am so speaking of the matriarchy and first place

918
01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:15,320
Speaker 1: the most Incredible Animal Babysitters Club. Of course this is

919
01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:18,360
Speaker 1: all subjective, but I do think I am actually correct.

920
01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:25,880
Speaker 1: Is elephants. So, elephants are incredible animals. They are intelligent,

921
01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:28,880
Speaker 1: they live quite a long time. Their lifespans can be

922
01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:33,720
Speaker 1: similar to humans. Elephants have some of the cutest babies,

923
01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:38,080
Speaker 1: and boy do they know it. So elephants social structure

924
01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:42,840
Speaker 1: is actually really interesting. So elephants form matriarchal groups, so

925
01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:47,120
Speaker 1: it's full of females and young males. When the males

926
01:02:47,240 --> 01:02:52,000
Speaker 1: reach maturity, they typically disperse from the group, and these bowls,

927
01:02:52,120 --> 01:02:56,680
Speaker 1: which are male elephants, will sometimes live alone. Sometimes they

928
01:02:56,720 --> 01:03:00,800
Speaker 1: go and find other bachelors, and sometimes they kind of

929
01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:04,240
Speaker 1: go and find other groups of um these sort of

930
01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:06,880
Speaker 1: matriarchal groups and like go and mate with them. But

931
01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:10,400
Speaker 1: they're usually kind of at the periphery of these matriarchal

932
01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:14,520
Speaker 1: groups because you know, bulls can represent a threat to

933
01:03:14,720 --> 01:03:17,240
Speaker 1: the female, so they are a little bit wary of them.

934
01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:20,600
Speaker 1: But it's not you know, they can't have friendly relations

935
01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:23,560
Speaker 1: with with these groups. And sometimes, like a group of

936
01:03:23,600 --> 01:03:26,360
Speaker 1: bulls and a group, a matriarchal group of elephants will

937
01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:29,600
Speaker 1: actually come together, especially in in times of hardship, and

938
01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:32,320
Speaker 1: kind of work together. So it's really interesting. It's hard

939
01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:37,560
Speaker 1: to simply state one generalization about elephants socialization because it's

940
01:03:37,640 --> 01:03:41,200
Speaker 1: very complex, very interesting. They're just so intelligent that they

941
01:03:41,240 --> 01:03:46,400
Speaker 1: have these extremely complex social interactions. UM. But generally speaking,

942
01:03:46,600 --> 01:03:48,840
Speaker 1: I just said I wouldn't generalize, and now I'm gonna,

943
01:03:49,120 --> 01:03:53,600
Speaker 1: but matriarchal groups of elephants are often family. Not always

944
01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:59,080
Speaker 1: they can invide, they can welcome unrelated individuals into their herd. UM,

945
01:03:59,160 --> 01:04:03,720
Speaker 1: but it is almost always it's it's basically always headed

946
01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:07,880
Speaker 1: by an elder matriarch and when she dies, she is

947
01:04:07,920 --> 01:04:12,000
Speaker 1: almost always replaced by her closest living relative, which is

948
01:04:12,120 --> 01:04:19,080
Speaker 1: usually her daughter. And they these matriarchs really they lead

949
01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:23,640
Speaker 1: their herd, they show them where to go to get

950
01:04:23,720 --> 01:04:27,920
Speaker 1: water and food and where to migrate to to avoid

951
01:04:28,560 --> 01:04:32,440
Speaker 1: uh these dry spells and other areas they contain. They

952
01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:35,360
Speaker 1: live so long, they have all of this information they've

953
01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:39,880
Speaker 1: gathered over this whole lifetime, so they are extremely valuable

954
01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:43,680
Speaker 1: to the herd, and having a matriarch that has had

955
01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:49,400
Speaker 1: a lot of experience really improves the herd's survival. And

956
01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:54,600
Speaker 1: the death of a matriarch in an elephant herd seems

957
01:04:54,640 --> 01:04:59,080
Speaker 1: to cause genuine grief and stress in the surviving group members.

958
01:04:59,080 --> 01:05:03,640
Speaker 1: So Breese searchers have measured increased levels of stress hormones

959
01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:07,200
Speaker 1: UH in the elephants poop, which is a little bit

960
01:05:08,040 --> 01:05:11,160
Speaker 1: awkward because I imagine these researchers show up to an

961
01:05:11,160 --> 01:05:15,040
Speaker 1: elephant funeral and they're like, you know, my condolences, my condolences, Uh,

962
01:05:15,200 --> 01:05:18,320
Speaker 1: don't mind if I just scoop some of this into it,

963
01:05:18,440 --> 01:05:21,880
Speaker 1: just to I'm so sorry for your loss, but just

964
01:05:21,920 --> 01:05:26,680
Speaker 1: gonna take a little bit of that poop. So, yeah,

965
01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:32,760
Speaker 1: they have extreme emotional connections to the matriarchs, and they

966
01:05:32,800 --> 01:05:38,800
Speaker 1: also have an extreme extreme emotional reaction to babies. They

967
01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:43,840
Speaker 1: elephants are baby crazy. They love them. They will it

968
01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:46,920
Speaker 1: is such a big to do when a new baby

969
01:05:47,040 --> 01:05:50,040
Speaker 1: is born. Babies take up to two years to just

970
01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:53,800
Speaker 1: state and it is a big, big deal, and the

971
01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:57,280
Speaker 1: whole herd will fawn over the calf. They will try

972
01:05:57,320 --> 01:06:00,760
Speaker 1: to stroke it with their trunks and like crowd around.

973
01:06:01,360 --> 01:06:04,919
Speaker 1: Sometimes the mother actually just kind of piste off because

974
01:06:04,960 --> 01:06:07,400
Speaker 1: everyone's crowding around her baby, and she gets kind of

975
01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:10,200
Speaker 1: protective and doesn't want them to keep poking at it,

976
01:06:10,240 --> 01:06:13,560
Speaker 1: but like they're just like so excited, they will crowd around.

977
01:06:14,200 --> 01:06:19,680
Speaker 1: And elephant babies are are real handfuls, I guess, trunk

978
01:06:19,720 --> 01:06:26,240
Speaker 1: fulls but ump ump and having the experience of older

979
01:06:26,280 --> 01:06:29,400
Speaker 1: mothers in the heart is essential to take care of

980
01:06:29,440 --> 01:06:34,760
Speaker 1: these little rascals because they are clumsy, they are curious.

981
01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:37,880
Speaker 1: They will run around, trip over their own trunk, get

982
01:06:37,880 --> 01:06:40,440
Speaker 1: into all sorts of mischief, and if you're a new mother,

983
01:06:40,880 --> 01:06:44,120
Speaker 1: it can be really overwhelming. So you need the collective

984
01:06:44,160 --> 01:06:48,600
Speaker 1: experience of the matriarch, your aunts, your sisters, and the

985
01:06:48,640 --> 01:06:52,720
Speaker 1: help even of like your younger siblings or younger female

986
01:06:52,720 --> 01:06:56,040
Speaker 1: elephants you may not have experienced raising young but are

987
01:06:56,440 --> 01:07:00,600
Speaker 1: very willing to help out. So the old their mothers

988
01:07:00,600 --> 01:07:04,000
Speaker 1: will teach new mothers all sorts of tricks on how

989
01:07:04,080 --> 01:07:07,200
Speaker 1: to take care of their young, so like they will

990
01:07:07,280 --> 01:07:10,000
Speaker 1: even like show them how to nurse. Like they'll like

991
01:07:10,120 --> 01:07:12,920
Speaker 1: really like sort of like gently guide them, like here's

992
01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:16,840
Speaker 1: how you nurse. Sometimes not so gently, like physically shoving

993
01:07:16,880 --> 01:07:19,480
Speaker 1: them in the right position to help them nurse their young.

994
01:07:20,080 --> 01:07:23,440
Speaker 1: They will basically call attention, like you need to pay

995
01:07:23,480 --> 01:07:26,200
Speaker 1: attention to your kid when this happens. You have to

996
01:07:26,240 --> 01:07:29,320
Speaker 1: do this. They can get really bossy, especially the matriarch.

997
01:07:29,440 --> 01:07:32,400
Speaker 1: She can be kind of kind of tough on new

998
01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:34,800
Speaker 1: mothers because she's trying to show them. Look, you have

999
01:07:34,920 --> 01:07:37,800
Speaker 1: to like when your elephant trips over, you've got to

1000
01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:40,600
Speaker 1: come over and help them up, like this is a problem.

1001
01:07:40,640 --> 01:07:46,080
Speaker 1: So it's really fascinating to observe these elephants working together

1002
01:07:46,240 --> 01:07:49,160
Speaker 1: because it is so clear that you have this like

1003
01:07:49,600 --> 01:07:52,760
Speaker 1: learning going on, this teaching of this is how you

1004
01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:54,840
Speaker 1: take care of your young. And I'm gonna show you

1005
01:07:54,880 --> 01:07:57,400
Speaker 1: and you're gonna listen to me because you respect me

1006
01:07:57,920 --> 01:08:02,040
Speaker 1: as your matriarch. Step sounded annoying, your helpful um a

1007
01:08:02,040 --> 01:08:06,600
Speaker 1: little bit of both, a little bit of both. I'd

1008
01:08:06,640 --> 01:08:09,080
Speaker 1: imagine that is how the elephants feel about it too,

1009
01:08:09,320 --> 01:08:14,160
Speaker 1: because like you go from no child to a child

1010
01:08:14,480 --> 01:08:18,960
Speaker 1: in you know, just there they are and you're wondering,

1011
01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:21,920
Speaker 1: so when does motherhood hit me? Like is that just

1012
01:08:22,320 --> 01:08:25,240
Speaker 1: blossom all of a sudden. So I was very happy

1013
01:08:25,360 --> 01:08:28,519
Speaker 1: to have my mom and my grandmother there too, you know,

1014
01:08:29,360 --> 01:08:32,000
Speaker 1: tell me how to do this net but also at

1015
01:08:32,040 --> 01:08:33,880
Speaker 1: the same time, like they knew when to back off,

1016
01:08:33,920 --> 01:08:40,679
Speaker 1: because yeah, it's a lot, this is extreme, auntie Grandma,

1017
01:08:40,800 --> 01:08:43,559
Speaker 1: but he yes. And on the one hand, I've been

1018
01:08:43,680 --> 01:08:47,240
Speaker 1: graping a lot lately about the laugh of grandma's in films.

1019
01:08:47,600 --> 01:08:51,280
Speaker 1: I think it's a by small. Grandma's are amazing human beings, atypically,

1020
01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:54,680
Speaker 1: both grandmas are super awesome, and it upsets me that

1021
01:08:54,720 --> 01:08:56,679
Speaker 1: we do not honor them in our films, like giving

1022
01:08:56,720 --> 01:08:59,320
Speaker 1: them full characters and making them real people. And so

1023
01:08:59,360 --> 01:09:02,439
Speaker 1: I appreciate elephants being like, no, our matriarch is it,

1024
01:09:03,080 --> 01:09:08,360
Speaker 1: and she's she's our literal queen. I think it was

1025
01:09:08,400 --> 01:09:11,320
Speaker 1: like gorgeous Grandma day. Actually it will probably be about

1026
01:09:11,320 --> 01:09:13,519
Speaker 1: a week ago when this came out, but yesterday I

1027
01:09:13,560 --> 01:09:17,840
Speaker 1: think it was gorgeous Grandma. What I missed it those

1028
01:09:17,960 --> 01:09:23,320
Speaker 1: photos of my grannys who are anti first, but my

1029
01:09:23,439 --> 01:09:30,040
Speaker 1: grandmother has quite a collection and she stunts in them.

1030
01:09:30,160 --> 01:09:33,960
Speaker 1: Oh man, but yeah, it's it is, it is. I

1031
01:09:34,040 --> 01:09:38,040
Speaker 1: do think like we do need an actual good movie

1032
01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:41,600
Speaker 1: about elephants and show, you know, I would love to

1033
01:09:41,600 --> 01:09:46,160
Speaker 1: see an animated adventure of these elephants matriarchs and how

1034
01:09:46,200 --> 01:09:48,400
Speaker 1: they take care of their herd and maybe there's a

1035
01:09:48,479 --> 01:09:51,559
Speaker 1: young young elephant who's learning how to be a leader

1036
01:09:51,680 --> 01:09:59,639
Speaker 1: and stuff in SEUs and conflict an elephant resolution. Did

1037
01:09:59,800 --> 01:10:05,040
Speaker 1: you an elephants uh episode? Um like documentary that is

1038
01:10:05,840 --> 01:10:08,719
Speaker 1: super good that has a ton of baby elephant footage

1039
01:10:09,040 --> 01:10:12,160
Speaker 1: if that's your vibe and you feel like Dumbo has

1040
01:10:12,280 --> 01:10:16,360
Speaker 1: crowded the animated scene for far too long on elephants

1041
01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:22,120
Speaker 1: more elephant movies. Yes, also Dumbo is I mean, there's

1042
01:10:22,200 --> 01:10:26,799
Speaker 1: problemat problematic, but it's also inaccurate to take that Dumbo

1043
01:10:26,840 --> 01:10:31,200
Speaker 1: because like those those the elephant ladies would not turn

1044
01:10:31,200 --> 01:10:34,840
Speaker 1: on Dumbo just because he's got big years. They they would,

1045
01:10:35,400 --> 01:10:38,320
Speaker 1: you know, basically be like, hey, listen, we're going to

1046
01:10:38,400 --> 01:10:41,799
Speaker 1: help you raise your baby because we are incredibly excited

1047
01:10:41,840 --> 01:10:45,680
Speaker 1: about this. So it's it's uh yeah, sorry, not a

1048
01:10:45,680 --> 01:10:49,400
Speaker 1: good movie. Like they were brutal too, They reminded me

1049
01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:57,519
Speaker 1: of um some ladies at church who So you are

1050
01:10:57,560 --> 01:11:02,920
Speaker 1: not the pappy you would you would learned there. But

1051
01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:09,200
Speaker 1: real life elephants are incredible. They just there's something about

1052
01:11:09,640 --> 01:11:12,680
Speaker 1: that where I think, as humans, we think we're the

1053
01:11:12,720 --> 01:11:16,439
Speaker 1: only ones who spread information from generation to generation, were

1054
01:11:16,479 --> 01:11:20,080
Speaker 1: the only ones with a history and passing on traditions,

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Speaker 1: and that's absolutely not true. And that is definitely very

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Speaker 1: much an aspect of elephant life where they are passing

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Speaker 1: on important information to new mothers from old mothers and

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Speaker 1: grandmothers and aunts and sisters, and it's it's wonderful. It's

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Speaker 1: a circle. For real. I want to attend an elephant

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Speaker 1: baby shower. Actually I kind of do too. I'd be

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Speaker 1: into it. Actually, So, as a human, you're probably not

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Speaker 1: going to be welcome to an elephant baby shower because

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01:11:52,600 --> 01:11:56,240
Speaker 1: they are so protective. But there are cases of elephants

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Speaker 1: who have been rescued by humans being comfortable enough with

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Speaker 1: their human rescuers to come around to show off their babies.

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Speaker 1: So it's actually a video here. I let me post

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Speaker 1: it in the Please let me save an elephant so

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01:12:10,160 --> 01:12:13,880
Speaker 1: I can meet its You do have to first save

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Speaker 1: the save the elephant though, that's like an important you know, sure, sure,

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Speaker 1: sure listen, and I saying I want to manufacturer small accident,

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Speaker 1: but you god, really baby, some misery stuff here elephant

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Speaker 1: version of misery. Um. Yeah, no, but you you have

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Speaker 1: to save an elephant, raise that elephant, and then wait

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Speaker 1: for that elephant. Got a. Wait two years for the baby,

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Speaker 1: just state then wait for wait, have probably another year

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Speaker 1: or so until she feels comfortable bringing around and then yeah,

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Speaker 1: but yeah, I just I posted that YouTube in the

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01:12:50,760 --> 01:12:53,840
Speaker 1: slide show that you can look at. But five year plan,

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Speaker 1: got it? Two years of pregnancy is a video all

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Speaker 1: included in the show notes. It's um. An elephant Orphans

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Speaker 1: was rescued by an elephant sanctuary called Sheldrick Trust in Nairobi, Kenya,

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Speaker 1: and she was successfully rehabilitated and released back into the wild.

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Speaker 1: And then she came back to show them her baby

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Speaker 1: that she had, and they called the baby Lily, and

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01:13:29,680 --> 01:13:34,120
Speaker 1: she was comfortable enough to allow her rescuers to touch

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Speaker 1: her baby and pet her and feel her trunk, which

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01:13:37,439 --> 01:13:39,800
Speaker 1: is like one of the most intimate things that an

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01:13:39,800 --> 01:13:43,240
Speaker 1: elephant can allow you to do with her baby. So

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Speaker 1: you know, the whole thing about like, oh, an elephant

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01:13:45,560 --> 01:13:48,720
Speaker 1: never forgets. They do have a very long memory, and

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Speaker 1: they will remember if you if you do them a

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01:13:51,439 --> 01:13:55,360
Speaker 1: good one, and they'll let you see their baby. I

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01:13:55,360 --> 01:14:00,000
Speaker 1: can't believe people are mean to elephants. They're so nice.

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01:14:00,080 --> 01:14:02,760
Speaker 1: They love their babies, Like, why are you sitting on

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01:14:02,800 --> 01:14:05,880
Speaker 1: them in the ocean? Off these beautiful creatures. Do not

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01:14:06,120 --> 01:14:09,600
Speaker 1: write elephants, you guys, it's not fun, it's not grammable,

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01:14:09,800 --> 01:14:13,080
Speaker 1: it's mean. Don't do it. They just they mind their

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Speaker 1: business and you just have to respect that. Well. They

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Speaker 1: mind their business visa the humans, but not when some want.

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Speaker 1: Not when an elephant has a baby, because then they've

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01:14:23,160 --> 01:14:28,880
Speaker 1: got something to say that. They have opinions. They have opinions.

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Speaker 1: A bunch of backseat parenting going on here apparently. But yes,

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Speaker 1: congratulations elephants for winning Best Babysitters Club Award, well deserved.

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Speaker 1: Before we sign off here, I do want to issue

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01:14:45,600 --> 01:14:49,120
Speaker 1: a correction. What should we I'm probably going to make

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01:14:49,120 --> 01:14:51,400
Speaker 1: more mistakes in the future. What should we like name

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01:14:51,439 --> 01:14:56,680
Speaker 1: our corrections segment like auto Bird correct I don't know,

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Speaker 1: Uh yeah, edification station, I don't know, but yes I

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01:15:06,200 --> 01:15:11,000
Speaker 1: did an oopsie goofer last episode. I incorrectly said leopards

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Speaker 1: live in South America. I was thinking of jaguars the

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01:15:14,720 --> 01:15:19,640
Speaker 1: other spotty kiddies. So I was talking about how leopards

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Speaker 1: and lions can hybridize and have offspring um. But also

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01:15:24,720 --> 01:15:29,759
Speaker 1: jaguars and lions also do hybridize, forming jag lions UM.

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Speaker 1: And so I was thinking of jaguars. They live in

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Speaker 1: South America. Leopards are actually found in sub Saharan Africa

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Speaker 1: and Western and Central Asia and on the Indian subcontinent,

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01:15:42,600 --> 01:15:47,680
Speaker 1: and they do sometimes clash with lions in terms of

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01:15:47,720 --> 01:15:51,960
Speaker 1: their territory overlapping, so they may encounter each other in

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Speaker 1: the wild. Very unlikely they're gonna fall in love and

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Speaker 1: have babies, more likely gonna get mad at each other.

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Speaker 1: And in terms of like differences between leopards and jaguars,

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Speaker 1: leopards are a little bit smaller than the jaguar, and

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Speaker 1: jaguars live in South and Central America. And uh, here's

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Speaker 1: just like kind of an interesting fact. What we know

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Speaker 1: as black panthers are often just melanistic jaguars, because there's

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Speaker 1: no such thing as like a black panther species, like

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01:16:23,920 --> 01:16:28,719
Speaker 1: black panthers just being any species in the panthera group

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Speaker 1: that is melanistic, so like a black panther, maybe a

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Speaker 1: melanistic or black fur jaguar. The black panther who is

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Speaker 1: Bagira in the Jungle Book would probably be a melanistic

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Speaker 1: Indian leopard. So yeah, there you go. Some quick cat

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Speaker 1: facts and correction on my Whoopsie Goofer last last episode.

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Speaker 1: That's the here name of this Whoopsie geofer. Whoopsie Goopers.

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Speaker 1: She had like a boiling sound of back down there,

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Speaker 1: want want want want um. But thank you so much

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Speaker 1: Steph for joining us today. And thank you so much Joel,

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Speaker 1: our producer on the Hot mic. Uh steph Uh do

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