WEBVTT - Jozzy 0:00:01.960 --> 0:00:03.079 R and B Money. 0:00:03.200 --> 0:00:06.040 Honey, we are. 0:00:07.680 --> 0:00:14.800 Thanks take valotility. We are the authority on all things 0:00:15.560 --> 0:00:19.360 R and B. Ladies and gentleman, My name is Tank. 0:00:20.600 --> 0:00:24.680 This is the R and B Money podcast, authority on 0:00:24.880 --> 0:00:31.880 all things R and B yesterday and today. We are 0:00:31.960 --> 0:00:37.080 a current R and B conglomerate. H we know what's 0:00:37.120 --> 0:00:40.000 going on with the youth, Yes, sir, put that on 0:00:40.880 --> 0:00:44.000 and just know what I'm saying. It works, okay, uh. 0:00:44.320 --> 0:00:47.360 I like to call this person one of the leaders 0:00:47.400 --> 0:00:54.960 of the new school. I agree, Wavy beyond waves. I've 0:00:55.080 --> 0:01:02.360 seen her read work. She's a problem and I like it. 0:01:03.080 --> 0:01:05.039 Ladies and gentlemen in the building, give it up the 0:01:05.160 --> 0:01:13.360 jobs right now, right now, Joz. I want to say this, Wow, 0:01:13.760 --> 0:01:19.120 that was beautiful. It's good to meet you, right and 0:01:19.200 --> 0:01:21.679 let me let me explain that. Not not as in 0:01:21.760 --> 0:01:25.440 meeting you for the first time, but it is good 0:01:25.959 --> 0:01:30.680 to meet you. In meeting you, I was like, oh 0:01:30.720 --> 0:01:33.800 my god, she's so dope. 0:01:34.040 --> 0:01:36.720 Wow. You always say that this is, this is not, 0:01:36.880 --> 0:01:38.959 this is this is always consistent. 0:01:39.400 --> 0:01:43.920 In meeting you, I was like, Wow, now, amazing energy, amazing, 0:01:45.000 --> 0:01:47.000 how you my loved one off top. I wish your 0:01:47.160 --> 0:01:53.560 nigga would about jos Zy, And as you say, consistency, 0:01:54.120 --> 0:01:59.680 that's you. You're You're consistent in your presence, in your 0:01:59.680 --> 0:02:04.960 demean in your work ethic every time, every time. And 0:02:05.000 --> 0:02:07.440 that's why we're talking about you. That's why they're talking 0:02:07.440 --> 0:02:09.960 about you. That's why you you know, that's why you've 0:02:10.000 --> 0:02:11.800 done the things that you've done, and they're doing the 0:02:11.840 --> 0:02:14.200 things that you're going to do. That's why you know, 0:02:14.760 --> 0:02:21.280 I see you first of all, she don't have a 0:02:21.280 --> 0:02:26.520 ship off time. It's I think. 0:02:26.560 --> 0:02:28.840 I think that's what's so good about like being like 0:02:29.919 --> 0:02:32.720 an R and B artist, Like it was. It was 0:02:32.760 --> 0:02:36.520 a fashion too. Everything was just the whole esthetic of 0:02:36.639 --> 0:02:38.080 being an R and B nigga. It was just like 0:02:38.240 --> 0:02:40.680 I love that, like I love when I used to 0:02:40.680 --> 0:02:44.440 see like Carl Thomas and his fur like the like 0:02:45.080 --> 0:02:47.040 you know, I love to see Donnelle Jones and his 0:02:47.160 --> 0:02:50.919 glasses and his black turtle neck like that was just fly. 0:02:51.200 --> 0:02:53.440 Like even with you, I told Tank, Bro, don't wear 0:02:53.480 --> 0:02:58.600 no shirt, Bro, don't come white. This is the show. 0:02:59.080 --> 0:02:59.799 Take the shirt off. 0:03:02.080 --> 0:03:05.040 You know that I'm not coming right there now. 0:03:05.520 --> 0:03:11.239 If you got to look across, okay, I don't see that. 0:03:11.320 --> 0:03:14.280 You know, we be in that place, get to you know, 0:03:15.160 --> 0:03:15.880 after the fool. 0:03:16.000 --> 0:03:18.480 You know, I don't like y'all like that. We don't 0:03:18.520 --> 0:03:20.440 like it like that. I can look at you like 0:03:20.680 --> 0:03:23.360 you look good, but look good I can give you. 0:03:23.440 --> 0:03:26.760 I don't like you like you can look good and 0:03:26.800 --> 0:03:29.000 you know it's nothing like you know what I'm saying that. 0:03:32.680 --> 0:03:35.680 I heard y'all looking waste together and ship Now yeah games, 0:03:35.720 --> 0:03:37.480 you know gangs got us on the program. 0:03:37.640 --> 0:03:41.520 Yeah, not literally, just changing my life around. I love 0:03:41.600 --> 0:03:45.200 going to the gym. I didn't realize that I was 0:03:45.240 --> 0:03:49.880 going to really enjoy seeing I like seeing the aftermath 0:03:49.920 --> 0:03:52.960 and the results. Man, I'm a result person. That's why 0:03:53.160 --> 0:03:54.880 it even took me a minute to come to R 0:03:54.920 --> 0:03:56.600 and B Money because I was like, I don't got 0:03:56.680 --> 0:03:59.760 enough results. I ain't ready, I don't got enough points 0:03:59.760 --> 0:04:01.600 on the board in my eyes to be around you 0:04:01.680 --> 0:04:03.520 all because I really look at you all at a 0:04:03.680 --> 0:04:06.480 high level. So that's why I was afraid to come here. 0:04:06.640 --> 0:04:08.040 But you know, now I'm here. 0:04:08.120 --> 0:04:10.200 You know what I'm saying, Well, you're supposed to be here. Yeah, 0:04:10.200 --> 0:04:12.119 I want you to say that, like like while you're 0:04:12.160 --> 0:04:14.600 in it, even with everything that you've done right at 0:04:14.600 --> 0:04:16.839 a high level, but while you're in it, you know, 0:04:16.960 --> 0:04:19.800 I think it's important for us, you know what I mean. 0:04:20.360 --> 0:04:22.520 It's weird to say elders, but this is crazy. 0:04:23.040 --> 0:04:24.680 You're the eldest. 0:04:24.200 --> 0:04:25.960 Well I mean elder statesman. 0:04:26.240 --> 0:04:31.920 I like you and this shit. 0:04:32.440 --> 0:04:36.800 It's important to shine that light, you know what I'm saying, Like, 0:04:36.839 --> 0:04:39.880 we gotta shine that light on you. If you don't know, 0:04:40.040 --> 0:04:43.839 now you know, you know what I'm saying, because the 0:04:44.000 --> 0:04:48.599 legacy continues with you. You don't see what I'm saying, Like, 0:04:48.640 --> 0:04:50.960 we play our part in our pieces, but listen, we here, 0:04:51.440 --> 0:04:53.240 we're throwing calls on the fire. 0:04:53.440 --> 0:04:58.000 Yeah, that's the reason why we have the platform ultimately, 0:04:58.000 --> 0:05:00.719 I mean, obviously we're going to have you know, legends 0:05:00.800 --> 0:05:03.280 and new legends, and people who have been a part 0:05:03.320 --> 0:05:05.600 of the music business for a long time, and people 0:05:05.640 --> 0:05:07.800 who are starting out and people who are just accomplished. 0:05:08.680 --> 0:05:11.520 But most of the most most importantly for us, it's 0:05:11.560 --> 0:05:14.720 about what we respect, you know what I mean. That's 0:05:14.720 --> 0:05:16.240 why when I ran into you and you said that 0:05:16.279 --> 0:05:18.760 to me, I was like, no, you've been ready, I've 0:05:18.760 --> 0:05:20.560 been loving records, you've done. You know what I'm saying 0:05:20.560 --> 0:05:23.560 that if I can call out your records. That mean 0:05:23.600 --> 0:05:25.560 I respect what you've done, you know what I mean. 0:05:25.600 --> 0:05:28.000 So to us, it doesn't, we don't. We don't look 0:05:28.000 --> 0:05:29.960 at it that way, right, we understand what you're saying. 0:05:30.440 --> 0:05:32.600 We don't look at that way because we know how 0:05:32.680 --> 0:05:37.800 hard it is to get these accomplishments. And you know, like, 0:05:37.880 --> 0:05:39.720 I don't even like, I don't even respect when people 0:05:39.960 --> 0:05:43.719 have those those conversations about one hit wonders, Well. 0:05:43.560 --> 0:05:45.599 That's one more hit than you may ever have in. 0:05:45.800 --> 0:05:46.680 Your life line. 0:05:47.400 --> 0:05:49.160 And I'm so glad I got my big hit out 0:05:49.160 --> 0:05:51.040 the way, so I don't got worried about it. 0:05:56.360 --> 0:06:01.920 Yeah, I early. 0:06:02.160 --> 0:06:04.880 Let's let's let's let's now, let's get to the little 0:06:04.960 --> 0:06:08.120 john Zie. Let's go back to Memphis. Let's go back 0:06:08.120 --> 0:06:11.320 to Memphis where it all began. Give me, give me 0:06:11.360 --> 0:06:13.280 the beginnings, give me the upbringer. 0:06:13.360 --> 0:06:16.440 Yeah. So born and raised in Memphis, Tennescy. Literally, my 0:06:16.520 --> 0:06:19.560 mom was a teacher. But my mom used to be 0:06:19.600 --> 0:06:21.120 in the group. She used to be signed to high 0:06:21.160 --> 0:06:23.440 records with Willie Mitchell. She used to go on to 0:06:23.560 --> 0:06:26.040 it and People's and see Johnson and al Green people. 0:06:26.360 --> 0:06:27.880 So my mom had a group called Jenny and the 0:06:27.920 --> 0:06:29.800 Jay's back in the sixties, they had a song on 0:06:29.839 --> 0:06:31.960 the billboard on the charts like they was doing good. 0:06:31.960 --> 0:06:33.600 They had a song called love what You're Doing in Me? 0:06:34.400 --> 0:06:37.760 And but my mom had to liked she always tell 0:06:37.800 --> 0:06:40.320 me she had to choose either the secular world or 0:06:40.800 --> 0:06:42.200 back in the day, you had to choose a secular 0:06:42.240 --> 0:06:45.000 world or you're gonna go to singing church. And I 0:06:45.040 --> 0:06:48.279 don't know, like Willie Mitchell let her our contract and 0:06:48.320 --> 0:06:52.440 she just starts singing in church and then yeah, I 0:06:52.800 --> 0:06:53.200 was born. 0:06:53.520 --> 0:06:53.640 Uh. 0:06:54.040 --> 0:06:56.359 But my brother who's old, my older brother, he was 0:06:56.400 --> 0:06:59.080 an artist back in Memphis, Like he was in his 0:06:59.160 --> 0:07:01.960 croup called Children the Corn, and he was like it 0:07:02.040 --> 0:07:05.159 was like them Skinny Pimp, Three Sins Mafia, one of 0:07:05.200 --> 0:07:08.520 the first rappers who uh, Like so this is this 0:07:08.560 --> 0:07:10.320 is like my life, this is what I'm around. So 0:07:10.400 --> 0:07:14.160 like always like all the rap guys used to be 0:07:14.160 --> 0:07:18.520 at at my crib like smoked out my mama not there. Uh. 0:07:18.600 --> 0:07:21.400 But then my brother got locked up, and I think 0:07:21.400 --> 0:07:22.960 this was changed my life. This was I was like 0:07:23.000 --> 0:07:26.800 four years old and when he got locked up, I 0:07:27.760 --> 0:07:30.240 went in his room. I remember that. I remember four 0:07:30.320 --> 0:07:31.560 years old. I remember like it was just as I 0:07:31.560 --> 0:07:33.320 went in his room, I took all his CDs and 0:07:33.320 --> 0:07:37.120 cassettes and I snuck him under my bed. And at 0:07:37.160 --> 0:07:40.240 four years old, I had the keys to every every 0:07:40.320 --> 0:07:43.520 access to music that kids don't have access to. So 0:07:43.600 --> 0:07:46.000 like I at at like at a young age, I was. 0:07:46.040 --> 0:07:48.480 I took all my brother's stuff and I just took 0:07:48.480 --> 0:07:50.760 it and I played it on my Fisher Price uh 0:07:51.160 --> 0:07:54.000 they headphones and just listened and I promise you, like 0:07:54.080 --> 0:07:56.560 I just absorbed so much music. But like that's kind 0:07:56.600 --> 0:07:59.400 of like the bulk of where I started. And just 0:07:59.440 --> 0:08:01.320 like my brother, it was locked up for like like 0:08:01.400 --> 0:08:04.200 eight ten years. So like in between that, my whole 0:08:04.240 --> 0:08:07.560 life was dedicated to showing him that I could be Yo, 0:08:07.680 --> 0:08:09.080 I want to show I want to do what you 0:08:09.120 --> 0:08:11.640 couldn't have done because he couldn't. He was about to blow. Yeah, 0:08:11.720 --> 0:08:13.120 you know, he was about to be one of them 0:08:13.160 --> 0:08:17.520 dudes in Memphis. But literally even Project Pet shot my 0:08:17.520 --> 0:08:19.320 brother out in his and mister don't play like he 0:08:19.320 --> 0:08:22.800 shout him. I was like, yeah, that's my brother, Yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:08:22.840 --> 0:08:25.920 mister don't play album. Yeah my brother Lord Tyrek shout 0:08:25.920 --> 0:08:29.080 out to my brother John. But yeah, so like that's 0:08:29.120 --> 0:08:31.440 kind of where it started. So my mom's always supportive 0:08:31.480 --> 0:08:34.000 of me doing music because she wanted to do it, 0:08:34.640 --> 0:08:37.800 and uh, I was just doing a few talent shows. 0:08:37.840 --> 0:08:41.880 I think my first probably when I was eleven years old, 0:08:41.920 --> 0:08:48.120 a wrout my first song. I remember that and falling 0:08:48.160 --> 0:08:50.640 in love. I ain't know none about love. I remember 0:08:50.640 --> 0:08:51.720 that ship too week. 0:08:51.640 --> 0:08:54.320 But you heard love song the week keep was a 0:08:54.320 --> 0:08:57.200 week that was good, you know, something like, yeah, man, 0:08:57.240 --> 0:08:58.280 I've been good for the list. 0:08:58.360 --> 0:09:01.760 My first song was tracked. 0:09:01.240 --> 0:09:04.240 That was listen you but you had confidence. It was 0:09:04.280 --> 0:09:07.960 a heartbreak song, confidence and so like. But that was 0:09:07.960 --> 0:09:09.559 just kind of like my whole git Like I always 0:09:09.600 --> 0:09:12.199 wanted to be a songwriter, even in high school. I 0:09:12.240 --> 0:09:15.560 remember I went to Germantown and the talent show. Like 0:09:15.600 --> 0:09:19.160 I remember my ninth grade year. This girl wanted me 0:09:19.240 --> 0:09:21.040 to she wanted to do the talent show and she 0:09:21.160 --> 0:09:23.840 was like, I was like, I write the song, and 0:09:24.679 --> 0:09:28.800 literally she won the talent show and no. But then 0:09:28.840 --> 0:09:31.000 I kind of I kind of got tired. I was like, yo, 0:09:31.120 --> 0:09:34.720 niggas is she won? Musically inclined? I was like, hold on, 0:09:38.400 --> 0:09:42.160 I was thinking on the year book and I was 0:09:42.240 --> 0:09:47.480 just like, yeah, no, this ain't this on parallel and 0:09:47.520 --> 0:09:50.439 that that was when I realized that being a being 0:09:50.480 --> 0:09:53.000 a service, you probably not gonna have the all the 0:09:54.040 --> 0:09:57.280 love and support service. Yeah, being a service to somebody, 0:09:57.320 --> 0:09:59.640 you may not have all the love that you want, 0:10:00.040 --> 0:10:02.560 the respect that you think you deserve. So but but 0:10:02.600 --> 0:10:05.040 I was still you like honding on my craft, you 0:10:05.080 --> 0:10:06.440 know what I'm saying. But that was like the first 0:10:06.440 --> 0:10:10.720 time I realized high school Germantown that oh yeah, this 0:10:10.800 --> 0:10:15.520 is what that was ugly. Yeah, so you know what 0:10:15.520 --> 0:10:16.079 I'm saying. 0:10:15.880 --> 0:10:17.800 When you get in love in your high school as a. 0:10:17.760 --> 0:10:21.760 Songwriter, mad Love, I was playing tennis actually though I 0:10:21.800 --> 0:10:24.160 was actually playing tennis. Yeah, I got a tennis scholarship 0:10:24.200 --> 0:10:27.120 and everything. I was cold. What Yeah, I played tennis 0:10:27.120 --> 0:10:27.720 in high school. 0:10:28.280 --> 0:10:29.000 Had a pickleball. 0:10:33.160 --> 0:10:36.079 It's something new, right talking about it, right, It's. 0:10:35.880 --> 0:10:42.760 Like it's for like non I always wanted to play. Yeah, 0:10:42.800 --> 0:10:45.360 but it's weird, like floating in the air. 0:10:46.800 --> 0:10:50.800 All sorts of people play pickleball with big can actually 0:10:50.800 --> 0:10:57.360 be too athletic. First of all, there's a lot of 0:10:57.360 --> 0:11:01.080 skill involved, a lot of athletics. Is the involved. This 0:11:01.120 --> 0:11:04.559 ship Okay in court, this big, it's not that big. 0:11:04.960 --> 0:11:08.599 It's a full tennis court. There's only certain areas that 0:11:08.679 --> 0:11:10.080 the ball can go in lies. 0:11:10.480 --> 0:11:13.880 Folks behind you shaking their head. I just at this 0:11:13.920 --> 0:11:15.520 point pickleball. 0:11:15.080 --> 0:11:18.640 Not pickleball. You was playing tennis. 0:11:19.640 --> 0:11:24.320 Cod Yeah, playing tennis. But you know, I still love music, 0:11:25.440 --> 0:11:29.080 like music was always in my in my in my bloodstream. 0:11:29.520 --> 0:11:32.600 Literally when I was in high school, I was working 0:11:32.640 --> 0:11:34.600 with I was working at this studio in Memphis. This 0:11:34.640 --> 0:11:37.720 is where I kind of got my name as JOSSI. 0:11:37.760 --> 0:11:39.679 Uh, what were you doing at the studio. 0:11:39.880 --> 0:11:42.720 I was writing songs for all the chop niggas, paper 0:11:42.760 --> 0:11:45.800 bag Money, you want hooks. 0:11:45.000 --> 0:11:47.400 And you going to the studio was just you saying 0:11:47.760 --> 0:11:50.199 I need to be in here. Yes, I'm not getting 0:11:50.280 --> 0:11:52.360 paid nothing. I was getting paid. 0:11:52.360 --> 0:11:52.880 I was getting paid. 0:11:53.080 --> 0:11:54.960 I'm just saying if you did, if you didn't place nothing, 0:11:54.960 --> 0:11:55.800 you wasn't getting paid. 0:11:56.360 --> 0:11:59.000 No, Like, yeah, I wasn't getting paid. But the thing 0:11:59.200 --> 0:12:01.679 is like, so you know DJ litt Larry, he's Yo. 0:12:01.679 --> 0:12:03.680 Gotti's right here, man. He had this thing called trap 0:12:03.760 --> 0:12:07.120 House and Traphouse, Shoe megas, like everybody was in this studio. 0:12:07.240 --> 0:12:10.360 This just like two thousand and nine to two thousand 0:12:10.480 --> 0:12:14.200 and it got raided twenty eleven and it was the 0:12:14.240 --> 0:12:17.840 Saturday in my life it's over. And like I was 0:12:17.880 --> 0:12:21.440 in school, literally but like I used to get mad, 0:12:21.480 --> 0:12:23.680 but I used to get like a five hundred one 0:12:23.679 --> 0:12:27.800 thousand for all the pimps, all the all the pimps 0:12:28.040 --> 0:12:30.080 who want to turn their life around, be a rapper. 0:12:30.559 --> 0:12:33.320 I would be there. I met young Jockta, I met 0:12:33.520 --> 0:12:37.440 Rock over there, like young Doff used to be there before. 0:12:37.520 --> 0:12:39.280 Dolph was like really, dof you know what I'm saying. 0:12:39.320 --> 0:12:40.680 So he was all just you know, I was just 0:12:40.679 --> 0:12:42.679 a kid in high school around all these folks, you 0:12:42.720 --> 0:12:47.480 know what I'm saying. And literally like one day I 0:12:47.480 --> 0:12:50.560 got a call, I'm bauck to go. They say, do 0:12:50.679 --> 0:12:53.199 not pull up to the studio, bro, this shit is 0:12:53.240 --> 0:12:56.760 getting raided right now. And like I was. It was 0:12:56.760 --> 0:12:58.960 on the news. My mama like what you this? Ain't this? 0:12:59.360 --> 0:12:59.800 This were you? 0:13:00.320 --> 0:13:03.199 Oh? My thought? It was just like it was just crazy. 0:13:03.600 --> 0:13:05.000 I cried, I was. I was sick. 0:13:05.160 --> 0:13:05.400 I was. 0:13:05.440 --> 0:13:07.880 I was really sick because that's all we had in 0:13:07.960 --> 0:13:11.040 Memphis was was the trap House. Like if anybody knows 0:13:11.080 --> 0:13:14.040 about Memphis, and like around that time, from like two 0:13:14.080 --> 0:13:17.679 thousand and eight to two thousand and eleven twelve, like 0:13:17.760 --> 0:13:20.440 that was all we had. That was it, and so 0:13:20.600 --> 0:13:22.800 like I was super depressed, didn't know what I was 0:13:22.800 --> 0:13:26.080 gonna do in my life. I was in school, didn't 0:13:26.080 --> 0:13:28.760 want to be at school in college and uh well 0:13:28.760 --> 0:13:30.079 didn't want to be in high school. I had to 0:13:30.080 --> 0:13:35.520 go to college the next year. I hated it. But god, man, I'm. 0:13:35.440 --> 0:13:37.400 Telling you, did you go in your tennis scholarship? 0:13:37.600 --> 0:13:40.640 I went on a tennis scholarship college you show I 0:13:40.640 --> 0:13:42.360 went to I went to college on my Tennessee on 0:13:42.400 --> 0:13:44.800 my on my scholarship. Man, like I was cold. Stop 0:13:44.840 --> 0:13:45.480 playing with me. 0:13:47.679 --> 0:13:48.000 Cold. 0:13:48.760 --> 0:13:51.200 I don't know. Somebody got to have some footage. 0:13:50.840 --> 0:13:52.240 Somewhere we got. 0:13:52.520 --> 0:13:54.800 Definitely, my mama didn't come in onto my games. It's 0:13:54.840 --> 0:13:59.440 so bad, you know, mama dude, Like, but so she 0:13:59.480 --> 0:14:05.120 was an English Yeah. 0:14:03.240 --> 0:14:04.880 Yeah, my mom was at work and my daddy thought 0:14:04.920 --> 0:14:05.720 basketball was bullshit. 0:14:05.800 --> 0:14:05.959 Yeah. 0:14:05.960 --> 0:14:08.920 My pop mama usually selling double doing music. That's it. 0:14:09.040 --> 0:14:12.199 Yeah, that's crazyn. So nobody came to my game to recording, 0:14:12.400 --> 0:14:13.720 which is crazy, you know what I'm saying. That was 0:14:13.760 --> 0:14:18.360 just me, but but literally it was a I think, 0:14:18.480 --> 0:14:24.560 Uh thanks to trap House, I got connected with my 0:14:24.640 --> 0:14:27.360 boy Bug and Web but the machine they worked at 0:14:27.400 --> 0:14:29.600 the studio at Trap House and they leave me with 0:14:29.640 --> 0:14:33.560 this producer from VA who was signed to Timberland and 0:14:33.600 --> 0:14:36.760 his name was wiz Dom and Wiz was looking for 0:14:36.800 --> 0:14:40.120 a songwriter. And literally he called me. He met me 0:14:40.160 --> 0:14:44.880 on Twitter. You dealing each other like he was like, yo, 0:14:44.960 --> 0:14:46.920 I heard you. You called and Memphis. You know what 0:14:46.920 --> 0:14:47.800 I'm saying, I need a writer. 0:14:48.360 --> 0:14:50.960 And I was like, yes, you are away at college 0:14:51.040 --> 0:14:52.040 and that I was. 0:14:52.080 --> 0:14:54.680 I was, you know, I came back from h U 0:14:54.760 --> 0:14:58.800 T Chat to come back to UM because some family 0:14:58.880 --> 0:15:01.320 situation happened. I had come back home, so I went 0:15:01.360 --> 0:15:04.320 to school that U M. I went to Memphis. Yeah, 0:15:04.360 --> 0:15:06.800 I went to Chat one year. You know what I'm saying. 0:15:07.120 --> 0:15:09.240 I came back like it was too much stuff going on. 0:15:09.320 --> 0:15:11.760 I had to come back. And like you, if you 0:15:11.760 --> 0:15:14.600 know anything about Chattanooga and Memphis, they do not. We 0:15:14.640 --> 0:15:16.800 won't get along like Chatta. Like at the time when 0:15:16.840 --> 0:15:19.320 you went to ut Chat, everybody wanted to fight. It 0:15:19.400 --> 0:15:23.120 was just bad. Like I had a roommate got ran over. 0:15:23.360 --> 0:15:24.000 It was bad. 0:15:24.080 --> 0:15:25.880 Like it was just like you can't walk off the 0:15:25.880 --> 0:15:28.480 campus because you about to like you can't you gotta 0:15:28.520 --> 0:15:29.440 stay on the campus. 0:15:29.560 --> 0:15:31.000 Just beef between the two schools. 0:15:31.080 --> 0:15:34.920 It's no, not the schools, it's beef between the city. 0:15:35.000 --> 0:15:37.200 Don't like Memphis niggas. They just they just think we 0:15:37.400 --> 0:15:42.160 just boogie up at you know yea yeah, so yeah, 0:15:42.200 --> 0:15:44.120 it was just kind of crazy. I had to get 0:15:44.160 --> 0:15:46.800 up out of ut chat because it was a lot 0:15:46.840 --> 0:15:50.520 of stuff going on. But UH went back home, did 0:15:50.760 --> 0:15:54.840 University Memphis. I'm leaving school. This was twenty twelve. Got 0:15:54.840 --> 0:15:58.680 a call from Wiz and Wiz was like, uh, y'all, 0:15:59.000 --> 0:16:02.040 can you fly to Miami for a week? I need you? 0:16:02.920 --> 0:16:06.960 I went home. I bet my parents. My pap was like, yep, 0:16:07.160 --> 0:16:10.840 you can go. And I went out there and I 0:16:10.920 --> 0:16:12.640 stayed there for six years and that was that was 0:16:12.680 --> 0:16:14.480 That was it. That was the start of like who 0:16:14.560 --> 0:16:17.160 Johnsy was week? I was supposed to be there for 0:16:17.160 --> 0:16:21.760 a week. Yeah, from twenty twelve to twenty eighteen. 0:16:22.000 --> 0:16:27.000 Yeah, how did you fund that? Yeah? 0:16:27.040 --> 0:16:28.080 Let's talk about survival. 0:16:28.160 --> 0:16:28.760 Yeah, survival. 0:16:28.760 --> 0:16:31.240 I ain't go front my pop bless me, my pop, 0:16:31.280 --> 0:16:33.880 bless me. My pop was like, yo, this is what 0:16:33.920 --> 0:16:35.960 he said. He said, Yo. This is like He's like yo, 0:16:36.080 --> 0:16:38.880 since I ain't paying for your college. This is your college. 0:16:39.960 --> 0:16:42.320 He was like, he was like, I'm giving you four 0:16:42.400 --> 0:16:44.160 years to make it. If you're like if you're doing 0:16:44.200 --> 0:16:47.560 four years and all right, we were just what we're 0:16:47.560 --> 0:16:49.800 gonna do, you know what I'm saying. So kind of 0:16:49.840 --> 0:16:52.320 like that was him, that was that was his, that 0:16:52.440 --> 0:16:55.440 was his. My pop John, My papa is cold. My 0:16:55.480 --> 0:16:58.000 papa is super cold. N So my pap was like 0:16:58.560 --> 0:17:00.560 he was and I just think he's just saw like 0:17:01.080 --> 0:17:04.119 he saw it. He knew, he knew who his daughter was. 0:17:04.160 --> 0:17:06.240 And I'm just like him, like I'm cold, like I'm 0:17:06.280 --> 0:17:08.760 just in so many ways. So he was like, you know, 0:17:08.840 --> 0:17:10.159 if this is what you want to do, this is 0:17:10.240 --> 0:17:12.919 this is what you're gonna do now, Like I struggled, 0:17:13.280 --> 0:17:15.520 like he I couldn't live the life that I wanted 0:17:15.520 --> 0:17:18.520 out bro, Like he didn't give me a lot of money. 0:17:20.000 --> 0:17:22.840 No well no no no no no so no no 0:17:22.840 --> 0:17:24.919 no no. He just gave me money for gas and 0:17:24.960 --> 0:17:26.639 good stuff like that. It was good and I was 0:17:26.640 --> 0:17:30.200 blessed for that. But like, so Wiz got a pub 0:17:30.280 --> 0:17:34.000 deal because he did Up Up and Away for Low 0:17:34.040 --> 0:17:36.760 Way and he did a few other songs, and like 0:17:36.760 --> 0:17:39.840 I said, he was with Timbland, So I'm around Timbling Timbling. 0:17:40.440 --> 0:17:42.800 I think they had a house in Opa Loaca and 0:17:42.800 --> 0:17:45.320 they let us stay there. So I'm in Opa Loaca. 0:17:45.320 --> 0:17:46.879 So we was staying there and then we had to 0:17:46.920 --> 0:17:48.800 start paying rent on it. But like for a few months, 0:17:48.840 --> 0:17:51.399 we were just staying there. And so Wiz, like I said, 0:17:51.760 --> 0:17:54.399 he really like he took me under his wings and 0:17:54.440 --> 0:17:56.159 was like yo, he was like my big bro. So 0:17:56.200 --> 0:17:58.640 he was like yo, Boom, like let's just let's just cook. 0:17:58.680 --> 0:18:00.000 Were supposed to be like the new tim in miss 0:18:00.480 --> 0:18:02.640 that was a whole life friend. We're gonna I'm gonna 0:18:02.640 --> 0:18:05.399 write the songs you're gonna produce. And like literally like 0:18:05.480 --> 0:18:07.600 Tim and MISSI just like took us under their wings. 0:18:07.640 --> 0:18:09.960 I met Missy and she was like, yo, come stay 0:18:09.960 --> 0:18:12.040 with me and boom. I stayed with Missy for a 0:18:12.080 --> 0:18:14.800 few for a few weeks, stay you know. So it 0:18:14.880 --> 0:18:16.480 was just kind of like a learning experience. 0:18:17.200 --> 0:18:17.760 Stay with me. 0:18:17.960 --> 0:18:18.200 Yeah. 0:18:18.320 --> 0:18:22.240 Nah, she let me come place. It will make room 0:18:22.240 --> 0:18:23.120 for you, nah bro. 0:18:23.240 --> 0:18:26.119 Like literally, Missy, I remember my twenty first birthday, like 0:18:26.440 --> 0:18:28.800 she got me shit faced. I remember that. But I 0:18:28.880 --> 0:18:32.800 learned so much from Missy being you know, in that situation. 0:18:32.880 --> 0:18:35.720 But as far as having money, nah, bro literally like 0:18:35.760 --> 0:18:37.240 we was faking it till we made it. 0:18:37.280 --> 0:18:37.399 Bro. 0:18:37.480 --> 0:18:40.280 I would pull up, I would take wizards, jeep, take 0:18:40.280 --> 0:18:42.720 it to South Beach, get girls, bring them to the 0:18:42.760 --> 0:18:47.720 studio and we vibing at the studio. It's like Hit Factory. 0:18:47.800 --> 0:18:50.320 I'm talking about Hit Factory in twenty thirteen fourteen. It 0:18:50.400 --> 0:18:53.280 was just a different time. It was like popping. Everybody 0:18:53.480 --> 0:18:56.200 was there, like you had like that's how I met Wayne. 0:18:56.240 --> 0:18:58.720 You had the cash money over there. You would have 0:18:58.880 --> 0:19:01.280 carry Hilson in one room, Polo had done to be 0:19:01.359 --> 0:19:04.399 in the next room. Bibro would be upstairs with like 0:19:05.280 --> 0:19:07.960 it was as what is James Posner. I was a 0:19:08.000 --> 0:19:11.480 huge James Posner. He was an amazing songwriter. And I 0:19:11.520 --> 0:19:14.359 was like James Posts upstairs. No, I was just like 0:19:14.440 --> 0:19:17.119 such a kid and like I just wanted to just 0:19:17.160 --> 0:19:19.680 be around all of this. And literally I didn't make 0:19:20.119 --> 0:19:24.719 no songs, like literally no songs. But we probably I 0:19:24.720 --> 0:19:29.160 mean because like we just was we had to sneak 0:19:29.200 --> 0:19:32.639 studio times. So like think about this is when around 0:19:32.640 --> 0:19:35.720 the time when Simbling was kind of he was I 0:19:35.840 --> 0:19:39.439 was after the promiscuous girl, after the sexy back, so 0:19:39.480 --> 0:19:41.320 he was in it was a weird time for him 0:19:41.480 --> 0:19:44.320 and that that that little Tom, but he was always 0:19:44.320 --> 0:19:47.040 in the studio so like we didn't have to like 0:19:47.080 --> 0:19:49.840 we didn't We only could work when niggas went to sleep, 0:19:50.359 --> 0:19:52.760 right Like so I'm talking about we would be in 0:19:52.800 --> 0:19:55.960 the studio till four in the morning. I'm like, just 0:19:56.320 --> 0:19:58.240 And that was how I became a people, like a 0:19:58.280 --> 0:20:00.760