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Speaker 1: R and B Money.

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Speaker 2: Honey, we are.

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Speaker 1: Thanks take valotility. We are the authority on all things

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Speaker 1: R and B. Ladies and gentleman, My name is Tank.

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Speaker 1: This is the R and B Money podcast, authority on

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Speaker 1: all things R and B yesterday and today. We are

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Speaker 1: a current R and B conglomerate. H we know what's

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Speaker 1: going on with the youth, Yes, sir, put that on

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Speaker 1: and just know what I'm saying. It works, okay, uh.

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Speaker 1: I like to call this person one of the leaders

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Speaker 1: of the new school. I agree, Wavy beyond waves. I've

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Speaker 1: seen her read work. She's a problem and I like it.

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Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen in the building, give it up the

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Speaker 1: jobs right now, right now, Joz. I want to say this, Wow,

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Speaker 1: that was beautiful. It's good to meet you, right and

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Speaker 1: let me let me explain that. Not not as in

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Speaker 1: meeting you for the first time, but it is good

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Speaker 1: to meet you. In meeting you, I was like, oh

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Speaker 1: my god, she's so dope.

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Speaker 2: Wow. You always say that this is, this is not,

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Speaker 2: this is this is always consistent.

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Speaker 1: In meeting you, I was like, Wow, now, amazing energy, amazing,

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Speaker 1: how you my loved one off top. I wish your

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Speaker 1: nigga would about jos Zy, And as you say, consistency,

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Speaker 1: that's you. You're You're consistent in your presence, in your

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Speaker 1: demean in your work ethic every time, every time. And

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Speaker 1: that's why we're talking about you. That's why they're talking

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Speaker 1: about you. That's why you you know, that's why you've

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Speaker 1: done the things that you've done, and they're doing the

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Speaker 1: things that you're going to do. That's why you know,

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Speaker 1: I see you first of all, she don't have a

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Speaker 1: ship off time. It's I think.

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Speaker 2: I think that's what's so good about like being like

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Speaker 2: an R and B artist, Like it was. It was

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Speaker 2: a fashion too. Everything was just the whole esthetic of

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Speaker 2: being an R and B nigga. It was just like

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Speaker 2: I love that, like I love when I used to

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Speaker 2: see like Carl Thomas and his fur like the like

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Speaker 2: you know, I love to see Donnelle Jones and his

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Speaker 2: glasses and his black turtle neck like that was just fly.

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Speaker 2: Like even with you, I told Tank, Bro, don't wear

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Speaker 2: no shirt, Bro, don't come white. This is the show.

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Speaker 2: Take the shirt off.

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Speaker 3: You know that I'm not coming right there now.

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Speaker 4: If you got to look across, okay, I don't see that.

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Speaker 1: You know, we be in that place, get to you know,

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Speaker 1: after the fool.

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Speaker 2: You know, I don't like y'all like that. We don't

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Speaker 2: like it like that. I can look at you like

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Speaker 2: you look good, but look good I can give you.

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Speaker 2: I don't like you like you can look good and

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Speaker 2: you know it's nothing like you know what I'm saying that.

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Speaker 1: I heard y'all looking waste together and ship Now yeah games,

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Speaker 1: you know gangs got us on the program.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, not literally, just changing my life around. I love

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Speaker 2: going to the gym. I didn't realize that I was

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Speaker 2: going to really enjoy seeing I like seeing the aftermath

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Speaker 2: and the results. Man, I'm a result person. That's why

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Speaker 2: it even took me a minute to come to R

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Speaker 2: and B Money because I was like, I don't got

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Speaker 2: enough results. I ain't ready, I don't got enough points

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Speaker 2: on the board in my eyes to be around you

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Speaker 2: all because I really look at you all at a

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Speaker 2: high level. So that's why I was afraid to come here.

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Speaker 2: But you know, now I'm here.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Well, you're supposed to be here. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I want you to say that, like like while you're

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Speaker 1: in it, even with everything that you've done right at

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Speaker 1: a high level, but while you're in it, you know,

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Speaker 1: I think it's important for us, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: It's weird to say elders, but this is crazy.

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Speaker 2: You're the eldest.

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Speaker 1: Well I mean elder statesman.

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Speaker 5: I like you and this shit.

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Speaker 1: It's important to shine that light, you know what I'm saying, Like,

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Speaker 1: we gotta shine that light on you. If you don't know,

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Speaker 1: now you know, you know what I'm saying, because the

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Speaker 1: legacy continues with you. You don't see what I'm saying, Like,

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's the reason why we have the platform ultimately,

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Speaker 6: I mean, obviously we're going to have you know, legends

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Speaker 3: But most of the most most importantly for us, it's

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Speaker 3: been loving records, you've done. You know what I'm saying

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Speaker 3: that if I can call out your records. That mean

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Speaker 3: I respect what you've done, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: So to us, it doesn't, we don't. We don't look

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Speaker 3: We don't look at that way because we know how

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Speaker 3: hard it is to get these accomplishments. And you know, like,

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Speaker 3: I don't even like, I don't even respect when people

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Speaker 5: That's one more hit than you may ever have in.

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Speaker 2: And I'm so glad I got my big hit out

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Speaker 1: Let's let's let's let's now, let's get to the little

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Speaker 1: john Zie. Let's go back to Memphis. Let's go back

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Speaker 1: to Memphis where it all began. Give me, give me

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Speaker 1: the beginnings, give me the upbringer.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So born and raised in Memphis, Tennescy. Literally, my

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Speaker 2: mom was a teacher. But my mom used to be

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Speaker 2: So my mom had a group called Jenny and the

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Speaker 2: Jay's back in the sixties, they had a song on

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Speaker 2: They had a song called love what You're Doing in Me?

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 2: But my brother who's old, my older brother, he was

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Speaker 2: But then my brother got locked up, and I think

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Speaker 2: this was changed my life. This was I was like

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Speaker 2: I took all my brother's stuff and I just took

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Speaker 2: I just absorbed so much music. But like that's kind

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Speaker 2: life was dedicated to showing him that I could be Yo,

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Speaker 2: I want to show I want to do what you

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Speaker 2: couldn't have done because he couldn't. He was about to blow. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you know, he was about to be one of them

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Speaker 2: shout him. I was like, yeah, that's my brother, Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: mister don't play album. Yeah my brother Lord Tyrek shout

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Speaker 2: and uh, I was just doing a few talent shows.

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Speaker 2: I think my first probably when I was eleven years old,

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Speaker 2: a wrout my first song. I remember that and falling

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Speaker 2: in love. I ain't know none about love. I remember

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Speaker 2: that ship too week.

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Speaker 1: But you heard love song the week keep was a

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Speaker 1: week that was good, you know, something like, yeah, man,

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Speaker 1: I've been good for the list.

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Speaker 5: My first song was tracked.

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Speaker 2: That was listen you but you had confidence. It was

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Speaker 2: a heartbreak song, confidence and so like. But that was

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Speaker 2: just kind of like my whole git Like I always

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Speaker 2: wanted to be a songwriter, even in high school. I

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Speaker 2: remember I went to Germantown and the talent show. Like

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Speaker 2: I remember my ninth grade year. This girl wanted me

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Speaker 2: was like, I was like, I write the song, and

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Speaker 2: niggas is she won? Musically inclined? I was like, hold on,

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Speaker 2: I was thinking on the year book and I was

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Speaker 2: just like, yeah, no, this ain't this on parallel and

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Speaker 2: a service, you probably not gonna have the all the

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Speaker 2: love and support service. Yeah, being a service to somebody,

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Speaker 2: you may not have all the love that you want,

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Speaker 2: the respect that you think you deserve. So but but

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Speaker 2: I was still you like honding on my craft, you

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Speaker 2: time I realized high school Germantown that oh yeah, this

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Speaker 2: is what that was ugly. Yeah, so you know what

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Speaker 2: I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: When you get in love in your high school as a.

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Speaker 2: Songwriter, mad Love, I was playing tennis actually though I

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Speaker 2: was actually playing tennis. Yeah, I got a tennis scholarship

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Speaker 2: and everything. I was cold. What Yeah, I played tennis

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Speaker 2: in high school.

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Speaker 1: Had a pickleball.

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Speaker 2: It's something new, right talking about it, right, It's.

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Speaker 3: Like it's for like non I always wanted to play. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: but it's weird, like floating in the air.

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Speaker 1: All sorts of people play pickleball with big can actually

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Speaker 1: be too athletic. First of all, there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: skill involved, a lot of athletics. Is the involved. This

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Speaker 1: ship Okay in court, this big, it's not that big.

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Speaker 1: It's a full tennis court. There's only certain areas that

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Speaker 1: the ball can go in lies.

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Speaker 2: Folks behind you shaking their head. I just at this

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Speaker 2: point pickleball.

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Speaker 5: Not pickleball. You was playing tennis.

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Speaker 2: Cod Yeah, playing tennis. But you know, I still love music,

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Speaker 2: like music was always in my in my in my bloodstream.

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Speaker 2: Literally when I was in high school, I was working

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Speaker 2: with I was working at this studio in Memphis. This

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Speaker 2: is where I kind of got my name as JOSSI.

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Speaker 1: Uh, what were you doing at the studio.

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Speaker 2: I was writing songs for all the chop niggas, paper

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Speaker 1: And you going to the studio was just you saying

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Speaker 1: I need to be in here. Yes, I'm not getting

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Speaker 2: I was getting paid.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying if you did, if you didn't place nothing,

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Speaker 2: No, Like, yeah, I wasn't getting paid. But the thing

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Speaker 2: Gotti's right here, man. He had this thing called trap

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Speaker 2: House and Traphouse, Shoe megas, like everybody was in this studio.

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Speaker 2: This just like two thousand and nine to two thousand

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Speaker 2: and it got raided twenty eleven and it was the

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Speaker 2: but I used to get like a five hundred one

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Speaker 2: I would be there. I met young Jockta, I met

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Speaker 2: Dolph was like really, dof you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: So he was all just you know, I was just

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Speaker 2: got a call, I'm bauck to go. They say, do

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Speaker 2: getting raided right now. And like I was. It was

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Speaker 2: on the news. My mama like what you this? Ain't this?

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Speaker 1: This were you?

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Speaker 2: Oh? My thought? It was just like it was just crazy.

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Speaker 2: I cried, I was. I was sick.

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Speaker 2: I was really sick because that's all we had in

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Speaker 2: Memphis was was the trap House. Like if anybody knows

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Speaker 2: like I was super depressed, didn't know what I was

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Speaker 2: didn't want to be in high school. I had to

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Speaker 2: go to college the next year. I hated it. But god, man, I'm.

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Speaker 1: Telling you, did you go in your tennis scholarship?

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Speaker 2: I went on a tennis scholarship college you show I

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Speaker 2: went to I went to college on my Tennessee on

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Speaker 2: my on my scholarship. Man, like I was cold. Stop

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Speaker 2: playing with me.

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Speaker 7: Cold.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. Somebody got to have some footage.

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Speaker 1: Somewhere we got.

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Speaker 2: Definitely, my mama didn't come in onto my games. It's

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Speaker 2: so bad, you know, mama dude, Like, but so she

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Speaker 3: Yeah, my mom was at work and my daddy thought

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: My pop mama usually selling double doing music. That's it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's crazyn. So nobody came to my game to recording,

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Speaker 2: which is crazy, you know what I'm saying. That was

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Speaker 2: just me, but but literally it was a I think,

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Speaker 2: Uh thanks to trap House, I got connected with my

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Speaker 2: this producer from VA who was signed to Timberland and

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Speaker 2: his name was wiz Dom and Wiz was looking for

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Speaker 2: on Twitter. You dealing each other like he was like, yo,

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Speaker 2: I heard you. You called and Memphis. You know what

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Speaker 2: I'm saying, I need a writer.

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Speaker 5: And I was like, yes, you are away at college

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Speaker 5: and that I was.

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Speaker 2: I was, you know, I came back from h U

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Speaker 2: T Chat to come back to UM because some family

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Speaker 2: to school that U M. I went to Memphis. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I went to Chat one year. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: I came back like it was too much stuff going on.

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Speaker 2: I had to come back. And like you, if you

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Speaker 2: know anything about Chattanooga and Memphis, they do not. We

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Speaker 7: It was bad.

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Speaker 2: Like it was just like you can't walk off the

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Speaker 5: Just beef between the two schools.

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Speaker 2: It's no, not the schools, it's beef between the city.

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Speaker 2: Don't like Memphis niggas. They just they just think we

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Speaker 2: just boogie up at you know yea yeah, so yeah,

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Speaker 2: it was just kind of crazy. I had to get

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Speaker 2: University Memphis. I'm leaving school. This was twenty twelve. Got

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Speaker 2: a call from Wiz and Wiz was like, uh, y'all,

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Speaker 2: can you fly to Miami for a week? I need you?

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Speaker 2: I went home. I bet my parents. My pap was like, yep,

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Speaker 2: That was it. That was the start of like who

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Speaker 2: Johnsy was week? I was supposed to be there for

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Speaker 2: a week. Yeah, from twenty twelve to twenty eighteen.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, how did you fund that? Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Let's talk about survival.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, survival.

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Speaker 2: I ain't go front my pop bless me, my pop,

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Speaker 2: bless me. My pop was like, yo, this is what

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Speaker 2: he said. He said, Yo. This is like He's like yo,

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Speaker 2: since I ain't paying for your college. This is your college.

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Speaker 2: He was like, he was like, I'm giving you four

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Speaker 2: And I'm just like him, like I'm cold, like I'm

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Speaker 2: just in so many ways. So he was like, you know,

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Speaker 2: like he I couldn't live the life that I wanted

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Speaker 2: out bro, Like he didn't give me a lot of money.

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Speaker 2: No well no no no no no so no no

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Speaker 2: no no. He just gave me money for gas and

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Speaker 2: good stuff like that. It was good and I was

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Speaker 2: blessed for that. But like, so Wiz got a pub

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Speaker 2: deal because he did Up Up and Away for Low

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Speaker 2: Way and he did a few other songs, and like

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Speaker 2: I said, he was with Timbland, So I'm around Timbling Timbling.

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Speaker 2: I think they had a house in Opa Loaca and

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Speaker 2: So we was staying there and then we had to

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Speaker 2: he was like yo, Boom, like let's just let's just cook.

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Speaker 2: Were supposed to be like the new tim in miss

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Speaker 2: that was a whole life friend. We're gonna I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: I met Missy and she was like, yo, come stay

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Speaker 1: Stay with me.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Nah, she let me come place. It will make room

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Speaker 2: Like literally, Missy, I remember my twenty first birthday, like

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Speaker 2: she got me shit faced. I remember that. But I

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Speaker 2: learned so much from Missy being you know, in that situation.

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Speaker 2: But as far as having money, nah, bro literally like

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Speaker 2: we was faking it till we made it.

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Speaker 1: Bro.

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Speaker 2: I would pull up, I would take wizards, jeep, take

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Speaker 2: it to South Beach, get girls, bring them to the

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Speaker 2: and that that that little Tom, but he was always

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Speaker 2: So I started going out. I started like hit in Miami,

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Speaker 2: It's like, oh the letter in like because I had

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Speaker 2: go outside and you know, use it in a network,

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Speaker 2: whiz it's still there, banging on beats. I was like, nigga,

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Speaker 2: I hated that. Like I guess it's it was artists

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Speaker 2: I'm the one. You just want to get in cold,

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Speaker 2: like you should try me.

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Speaker 5: It's tough waiting on your turn.

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Speaker 3: That's not people and some people don't have the patience

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Speaker 5: You already knew who you were and you knew what

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00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:21,440
Speaker 5: you will become, and you knew, like.

435
00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:28,399
Speaker 3: I can compete by your time and meaning that place

436
00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:31,280
Speaker 3: wasn't your time neither, because that that ship wasn't booked

437
00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:33,400
Speaker 3: for you, you know what I mean. Like, but that's

438
00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:40,680
Speaker 3: the thing people don't understand, uh, industry etiquette, right, I've

439
00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:44,160
Speaker 3: had plenty of you know who may be dope writers

440
00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:47,880
Speaker 3: come in there that came with somebody else that keep trying.

441
00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:49,520
Speaker 5: To throw words in pop.

442
00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:52,320
Speaker 2: If you don't get here, I tell you, and I

443
00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:54,720
Speaker 2: tell I tell one of my boys, you gotta get

444
00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:57,360
Speaker 2: them out of there. Bro, like you're doing a lot.

445
00:21:57,760 --> 00:21:59,879
Speaker 2: I'm quick to be like, bro, come on, bro, like

446
00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:01,359
Speaker 2: I'm not like, I hate that.

447
00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:02,520
Speaker 5: But they don't understand that though.

448
00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:05,440
Speaker 3: It's it's just ignorance to it more so than it's

449
00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:06,680
Speaker 3: about them being disrespectful.

450
00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:10,600
Speaker 5: They just don't even know. They thinking, oh, I'm here now, shit,

451
00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:11,679
Speaker 5: let me show my talent.

452
00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:16,000
Speaker 2: I remember one session, you know, Jim Beans. Jim Beans

453
00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:18,680
Speaker 2: was Jim Beans is a He did a lot of

454
00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:21,720
Speaker 2: vocal production for like he did like the Promiscutor, He

455
00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:25,160
Speaker 2: did all of that shit, and he did also the Empire.

456
00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:28,040
Speaker 2: But Jim Beans is one of the first people who

457
00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:30,359
Speaker 2: made me feel comfortable in the studio. Like literally, I

458
00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:33,359
Speaker 2: walked in the first day off the plane actually coming

459
00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:36,480
Speaker 2: to Miami. I walked into this session he was working

460
00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:39,159
Speaker 2: on and he was like, you want to write? And

461
00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,800
Speaker 2: I just sat there. I was quiet. I just sat

462
00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:44,640
Speaker 2: and paid attention. I wasn't trying to like overstep boundaries,

463
00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:45,879
Speaker 2: and he just looked at me and was like, you

464
00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:48,280
Speaker 2: want to help me, right? I was like, wow, yes, yes,

465
00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:51,360
Speaker 2: And I just thought that moment was so dope because

466
00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:54,679
Speaker 2: he like let me into his world because I'm like,

467
00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:57,520
Speaker 2: this is jim Beans like he did carry I know,

468
00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:01,199
Speaker 2: I know everybody. I'm a super friends for I know

469
00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:04,160
Speaker 2: every thing about Timbling and MISSI static if you ask

470
00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:07,639
Speaker 2: me any questions about how they started. I know everything

471
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,480
Speaker 2: about these guys. I studied Missy, I studied till I

472
00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:13,639
Speaker 2: study Magou. I love these niggas like so it was

473
00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:17,439
Speaker 2: almost like I was just I knew who Jim Ban's was.

474
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,639
Speaker 2: So it was just like oh my god. And h

475
00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,040
Speaker 2: just those moments where just people just want to like

476
00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,040
Speaker 2: include you, those are the times that I just cause

477
00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:39,640
Speaker 2: I wasn't gonna include myself. When I went to Missy's house,

478
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:43,000
Speaker 2: she she had a studio in my house. So now

479
00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:45,840
Speaker 2: I can just wake up in the morning at work too. Yeah,

480
00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:49,960
Speaker 2: And the thing about Missy ain't nobody coming in our house.

481
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,560
Speaker 2: So you have to teach yourself how to record. So

482
00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,719
Speaker 2: I had to learn pro tools and I'm so glad,

483
00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:58,120
Speaker 2: like she'd like, I learned how to record myself thanks

484
00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:01,200
Speaker 2: to Missy. She taught me a valuable thing because working

485
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:03,360
Speaker 2: with Wiz. I didn't know. I was just I thought

486
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:04,680
Speaker 2: I had to write to all his beats because he's

487
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,439
Speaker 2: my producer, even if I didn't like it. I was like,

488
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,119
Speaker 2: I can't stand his beat, but I'm gonna write to

489
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,040
Speaker 2: it because it's my partner. You know what I'm saying.

490
00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:14,119
Speaker 2: She was she was chewing them now, like Nigga, this

491
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,520
Speaker 2: ain't it. Nigga, this ain't good. She's like, nah, she

492
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:19,119
Speaker 2: was eating whizz up because she was trying to Like.

493
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:20,919
Speaker 2: She was like, this what I do to timbling? Like

494
00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 2: you know how many times I told timbling? Nah, Nigga,

495
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,359
Speaker 2: this ain't it. She's like Jozzi. She was like, you

496
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:28,760
Speaker 2: don't got to write to every every song, every every beat,

497
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,360
Speaker 2: because it's in your face. Like if a producer gives

498
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:33,920
Speaker 2: you one beat and you don't like it, be like, YO,

499
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,159
Speaker 2: play some more beats. You don't have to write. And

500
00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:38,840
Speaker 2: I was like word like I didn't know that. I

501
00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,159
Speaker 2: thought that, oh this is the beat, Oh this is

502
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,760
Speaker 2: so and so this is a big producer, so he knows.

503
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:47,040
Speaker 2: But no, like sometimes you may have to challenge your

504
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:49,560
Speaker 2: producer and be like, Nah, this ain't it. What else

505
00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:51,560
Speaker 2: you got? It ain't it for me, you know what

506
00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:54,400
Speaker 2: I'm saying. So Missy taught me that like and after

507
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:56,520
Speaker 2: that I was quick to telling Nigga, let me play

508
00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:57,000
Speaker 2: another one.

509
00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 1: But I think I think your reverence for the craft

510
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:04,080
Speaker 1: in the beginning, you know, had you developing something that

511
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 1: you probably weren't realizing you were developing, just being ready

512
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:10,879
Speaker 1: whatever it is right, Like I don't like to be

513
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 1: but I.

514
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:13,639
Speaker 5: Want to because it's two sides to that.

515
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 3: It's two sides to that, because I mean, the reps

516
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:18,960
Speaker 3: in itself gives you an opportunity to better yourself and

517
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:20,879
Speaker 3: better you know what I mean, Like for when that

518
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:25,480
Speaker 3: right record does come and the truth matters. As many

519
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 3: people say they know in this ship, no one really, no,

520
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,600
Speaker 3: I don't know, we don't know. It could be something

521
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:33,040
Speaker 3: that we could play in the car every day and

522
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,800
Speaker 3: think is the greatest song in the world and nobody

523
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:37,840
Speaker 3: gives a fuck. And being on the flip side, it

524
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 3: could be that throwaway record, throw away and Nigga be like,

525
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:43,360
Speaker 3: the world loves it.

526
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:46,240
Speaker 2: Did you have a throw away joint that people like you.

527
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:54,439
Speaker 1: Lying that wasn't four or five artists passed on it,

528
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,919
Speaker 1: just sitting there. I had one more day left in

529
00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:00,520
Speaker 1: the studio that was paid for, and I was like,

530
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:02,480
Speaker 1: I was like, I was like, I record all the

531
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 1: songs I wanted to record. They was like, well, you

532
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:05,639
Speaker 1: got one more day, so whatever you want to do.

533
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,160
Speaker 1: I was like, I was like, got this one beat

534
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:11,480
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna record this one right here, record that song.

535
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:13,200
Speaker 1: When Nigga Lane comes to what you're working on that,

536
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,240
Speaker 1: I'm like, this this bullshit you want to do? Want

537
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:17,000
Speaker 1: to do the bridge? He dow the Bridge. I'm like,

538
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:20,200
Speaker 1: all right, I'm just niggas call me. Two days later

539
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 1: the nigga you did it? I was like, what you want?

540
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 2: Nigga?

541
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 1: I started naming all sorts of records. No this, please

542
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:32,959
Speaker 1: don't go. I said, what yo? I'm sure? Sure? Are

543
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:36,399
Speaker 1: you sure? Guys? How'd you? I wrote and produced the

544
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,639
Speaker 1: whole thing, but I was still like this kind of

545
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:39,720
Speaker 1: trush you sure?

546
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 2: That's crazy?

547
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 1: I watched that. I watched that song go from three

548
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 1: spins to three thousand spins to six thousand. I was

549
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 1: in the office every day, like what's going on there?

550
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 1: Like you are it's happening. You got a hit record,

551
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,440
Speaker 1: You have a hit record. I watched us come out

552
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 1: and sell more records than everybody.

553
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 2: What you thought was the hit on that joint?

554
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:00,480
Speaker 1: On sex, Left and Pain?

555
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:01,919
Speaker 2: Which one would you go with?

556
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:03,400
Speaker 1: Everything was crazy.

557
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:04,359
Speaker 2: Now, but which one was you gonna go with?

558
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:04,680
Speaker 1: Over?

559
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:05,720
Speaker 2: Please don't go?

560
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,399
Speaker 1: I was just curious, Like, I mean, we had a

561
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,480
Speaker 1: wedding song on there, it would have been crazy, and

562
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 1: we eventually went with Heartbreaker, But Heartbreaker was on there.

563
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,280
Speaker 1: I was kind of into my tempo bag, so I

564
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 1: was thinking maybe the Coldest would have some play, you

565
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I was like, we put out

566
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:23,639
Speaker 1: this Coldest thing, I would be dancing a little bit.

567
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,680
Speaker 1: I'd already you know, fucked up a video dancing and ship,

568
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 1: but I was I was willing to try another one.

569
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,000
Speaker 2: Hilarious, that's crazy.

570
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:41,159
Speaker 1: It was my body like through so many joints. The

571
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 1: label was like, nah, trust me, this is it.

572
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:46,879
Speaker 2: And then Motherfuckers was shout out to the an O

573
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 2: because I wish like, there's no an R. I don't

574
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 2: it's scary. A and R is a some there's a

575
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 2: few dopees, but like shout out to that an R.

576
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:59,359
Speaker 1: Well, thing from those days, like your executive was the

577
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 1: fucking an ore those days. Nigga Barry Hankerson knew music

578
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 1: like he wasn't no, he wasn't no lawyer or no.

579
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:12,639
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. He knew music, you know

580
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. He was with the Whinings. He wished

581
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 1: Gladys Knight. You know what I'm saying. Him R Kelly

582
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:22,640
Speaker 1: Oliah like this, nigga knew music when when we put

583
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,400
Speaker 1: out Freaky as my first single, don't look that up

584
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:31,399
Speaker 1: and ship went bad? He said. He he listened to

585
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 1: the project, listen to all the songs, and he called

586
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 1: me in the office. He said, don't worry about it.

587
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take control from here. We're gonna change your life.

588
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't know what that means, but

589
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 1: do what you do. He said, this is the.

590
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 7: Song I deserve and here that's his history.

591
00:28:53,480 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 1: So we we missed those executives who understand music because

592
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 1: now it's numbers. Now, it's analytics. Now, it's chasing after fact.

593
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:08,959
Speaker 3: It's baseball all yeah, you know what I mean, it's

594
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 3: absolutely an analytic game. And that ain't no, there's no uh,

595
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 3: there's no heart in analytics.

596
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 5: It's just numbers, you know what I mean.

597
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 3: So if if you don't feel it, because that's all

598
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 3: this ship is. I'm not replaying a song I did

599
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 3: not feel. I'm the fuck what nobody else tell me?

600
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,479
Speaker 3: I didn't feel it personally, it's just me my feeling.

601
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 1: Oh it's gonna be the biggest that's cool.

602
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,239
Speaker 3: It's cool, and y'all push whatever button you think you're

603
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 3: gonna push it, and it may work. I'm willing to

604
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 3: stand behind and stand in front of what feels good

605
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 3: to me.

606
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 2: That was, and that was one thing talking about Missy.

607
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 2: I didn't have structure in my songs. My songs, I

608
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 2: really didn't know. You know, that's one thing I love

609
00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 2: about Max Martin. It's some Max Martin structure. You know,

610
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 2: you're going to get the AA, You're gonna get the A,

611
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 2: B A, you know what I'm saying. You're gonna get

612
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 2: a pop structure. You're gonna get the hook, big hook

613
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 2: off on the bot on the down beat. I ain't

614
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 2: none of that, So I was. It was just melodies

615
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,719
Speaker 2: and feeling and she was just like loving it and

616
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 2: I was, and she she never really told me how

617
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 2: to structure a.

618
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 1: Song because she didn't want to put those those barriers

619
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 1: she did.

620
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 2: She didn't, Bro, she didn't, And like that's one thing

621
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 2: I learned, I know, like about like what helped me.

622
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 2: She she was like, yo, she wanted me to keep

623
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 2: that feeling. She wanted me to keep that substance and

624
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 2: just And I'm really a student, bro, I love to learn,

625
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 2: Like I still love to learn. If you can't teach

626
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 2: me nothing in the room, I be like, I'm I'm

627
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 2: all right to go to the club. And she if

628
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 2: I don't learn nothing, like I want to learn everything

629
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 2: and soak up. So just being around Missy she taught

630
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,239
Speaker 2: me that. She she she taught me without telling me,

631
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 2: like nah, this is where the hooks supposed to go.

632
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 2: This that I learned that just really just just being

633
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 2: around just great, just being in the rooms and being

634
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 2: in flying the wall. Like nobody really just taught me

635
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 2: how to write a song. I had to just learn from. Oh,

636
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 2: ship Shun Garrett is in with timbling. Let me see

637
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 2: what he's doing. Oh he's very pop like with his ship.

638
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 2: So I'm okay, Oh that's where he goes. Oh so

639
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 2: the hook is higher than the pre hook. So I

640
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 2: got to go higher on the pre hug on the

641
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 2: hook than the pre you know what I'm saying. I was, Yeah,

642
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 2: I didn't know the build up, like I didn't know,

643
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 2: you know, It's just everything felt good. So like my

644
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 2: whole life was just literally learning. I was like just

645
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 2: in school of like learning this ship. I didn't get

646
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 2: paid until well I got Yeah, I got paid.

647
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 5: That's not forget that money.

648
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 2: Was gone when I got to Miami. That ship was done.

649
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 2: Because I thought I was gonna get.

650
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 1: Some say that because it's more on the I thought

651
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 1: I was gonna be more.

652
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 2: I was on the way to the studio. Who need

653
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 2: a right now?

654
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 1: Okay, I know from him that's the that's the thousand

655
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 1: ju ju. I know he promised me four thousand of

656
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 1: other night because he means what it was, Bro, you

657
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 1: can spend this, but you had a you had a

658
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 1: different kind of hunger for this ship in order to

659
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 1: in order to in order to digest that information, like

660
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 1: you have to have a hunger for that.

661
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 5: Everybody's not willing.

662
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 1: Everybody's not and everybody can't sit in those sessions or

663
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 1: sit in those places and figure out what they're doing

664
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 1: there if they're not working they'll be sitting at anybody.

665
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 1: This ain't correct. No, hung, I'm out. But to be

666
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 1: able to sit there and say you might have said

667
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 1: to the whole session like this. It wasn't until the

668
00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 1: transition out of the second verse into the second hook

669
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 1: you said what the fuck was that? Yeah, and that's

670
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 1: what you needed to go to that next place that

671
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 1: you're gonna go to. Yes because creative.

672
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 2: No agree, bro, because I'm telling you. At the time

673
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 2: when I was around Timbling, he was doing real pop songs.

674
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 2: And I remember the day like it was yesterday. Uh,

675
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 2: they brought Bryson Tilla in the studio. This is before

676
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 2: Bryson dropped Chop Soul. They was like, Yo, you need

677
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 2: to sign this dude.

678
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 7: Tim was like.

679
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 2: Nah, And I looked at I was looking at Wiz

680
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 2: and I was like that nigga is cold like Bryce Tiller.

681
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 2: So he was playing all the shit that he was

682
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 2: about to drop, like the don't He was playing it

683
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 2: all and I was just like, oh, this shit is

684
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 2: so cold. So me and w said, Yo, we're FINSA

685
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 2: started ship called twenty nineties R and B. So the

686
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 2: twenty in the nineties, the two thousands, you know what

687
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 2: I'm saying. And then the nineties of the R and B,

688
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 2: so we was like, Yo, we're going to just do

689
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 2: R and B like the way we like it. And

690
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 2: literally we started making songs that sounded like classic Aliyah,

691
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:09,319
Speaker 2: classic total all that shit. And then twenty fourteen that

692
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:11,840
Speaker 2: Nigga Bites until the jop chopped so and we was

693
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:16,919
Speaker 2: like it begins like we knew, like, oh man, this

694
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 2: is the sound, like this is what we here. The

695
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:21,839
Speaker 2: sound was a little darker because you know, but it

696
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 2: was the chop soul, but it was R and B

697
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 2: and we was just like, damn, I didn't have a

698
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 2: voice on tip to timbling to be like, yo, bro,

699
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 2: you're crazy.

700
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 5: This is crazy kicked the student.

701
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 2: And we didn't just talk like that, you know what

702
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 2: I'm saying. So so I didn't want to like say that,

703
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,919
Speaker 2: but I was just like, this is yo, this song

704
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,360
Speaker 2: is gonna go. Yeah. I heard it, and so I

705
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,320
Speaker 2: remember when we went back to Missy house and we

706
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 2: went to Jersey, they were Missy and I was like, Missy,

707
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 2: I'm working on my album and she was just like

708
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 2: you need to let you need to let him hear

709
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 2: this because she was like, I think this will help

710
00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:00,400
Speaker 2: Timbling get his stride back with like with that's with

711
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 2: R and B. She she heard something in it. So

712
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 2: I played a few songs for Timberland and that was

713
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 2: when he started working on twenty twenty Vision with Justin Timberlake.

714
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 2: And like, I really do feel like I helped influence

715
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 2: We helped influence Timbling to do some R and B

716
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 2: on that twenty twenty Vision because like I remember, he

717
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 2: was just like, Yo, this is crazy. He flew up

718
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 2: to La to work and we just we had a room.

719
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 2: He gave us a room that was beautiful. I was like, yeah,

720
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 2: nobody came in there.

721
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:31,920
Speaker 5: We had a room.

722
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:34,439
Speaker 2: I remember I saw James punl Roy for the first

723
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 2: song was like since I always called him since, and

724
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:38,719
Speaker 2: he came in and showed love. But like we had

725
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 2: a room in the back and we were just like, oh,

726
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,360
Speaker 2: we're here, like we we got our room. Tiana Taylor

727
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 2: that was the first artist I worked with. That was

728
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 2: my first artist I actually worked with was Tiana and

729
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 2: we did a song man Monster Bro and I felt

730
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 2: like Tiana, she was underrated, you know what I'm saying.

731
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 2: So yeah, we got in with her and we did

732
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 2: a few songs and I was like, Yo, this is it,

733
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 2: and yeah, it was just one of those moments. Was

734
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 2: just like I was around all of these people, like

735
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 2: justin Timber, like in the studio when he's doing twenty

736
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 2: twenty vision, I'm just like in the room if I

737
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 2: felt like little Michael like what is that?

738
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 5: What do you do?

739
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:12,799
Speaker 1: Like?

740
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,280
Speaker 2: It was really it was really one of those moments

741
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 2: where I was just like, I'm ready put me in.

742
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:19,240
Speaker 2: I wish one of these nigga would be like Jozzie,

743
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 2: what you got? Nobody? Nobody was like. I was just

744
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:27,239
Speaker 2: like yo, y'all hello. It was the weirdest I remember

745
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 2: a few times. I probably like definitely like cry, you

746
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying because I was just like, what

747
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:39,440
Speaker 2: is like nobody's calling my name? And Polo to done.

748
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,240
Speaker 2: He hit me up because I was kind of getting

749
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 2: fed up over the temper. But I was like, yeah,

750
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:46,840
Speaker 2: niggas ain't y'all. Don't y'all ain't pouring into me like

751
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:50,839
Speaker 2: I think y'all should. And Polo was like, yo, He's

752
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,760
Speaker 2: like yo, con Orlando, he got a Johnny Right studio

753
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:58,839
Speaker 2: that big comp him and Polo saw it. Polo was like, yo,

754
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:04,360
Speaker 2: let me manage you. And I did Monica's whole first album,

755
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,719
Speaker 2: I mean my first album, whole last album co read.

756
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,879
Speaker 2: I wrote that entire album. Damn. I had like six

757
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 2: songs on the album and I did. I did her single.

758
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:21,720
Speaker 1: I can hear Polo right now. She wrote like fifteen

759
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 1: songs an.

760
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:31,879
Speaker 3: Hour could But Polo Polo, he identifies talent and has

761
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 3: been doing that for years.

762
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,759
Speaker 1: Polo got Polo has that gift. They don't give him

763
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:38,720
Speaker 1: credit for his his mind.

764
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 5: Absolutely not Jones. That niggas call and he's been.

765
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 1: He knows that ship. He knows ship, and he knows

766
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:51,800
Speaker 1: he knows back country and everybody.

767
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 5: You know what I mean, niggas diving in over there.

768
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 1: I remember that they call me nigga.

769
00:37:56,960 --> 00:38:01,919
Speaker 2: Got one came around, Nigga came for sure around the world. Yeah,

770
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 2: that's a show, the show for show Like that was

771
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:06,839
Speaker 2: the That was when I got my money, like I

772
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 2: got my like that was when I kind of, you

773
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:09,360
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying.

774
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 1: Got your real opportunity, my opportunity.

775
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. The horrible pub deal. We

776
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,359
Speaker 2: didn't talk about that Marble pub.

777
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:18,360
Speaker 5: I mean, why not why not talk about it?

778
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 1: We've all been there.

779
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 5: But you know what I'm saying, did you get more

780
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 5: than seventy five?

781
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 2: I got? You know I did? I did get more

782
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 2: than that, but like and I guess I'm no, you did?

783
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:29,920
Speaker 1: Right?

784
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:33,319
Speaker 2: I wish I would have the pub did what?

785
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:34,360
Speaker 1: Did you have an nbr C?

786
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 2: Yes, what the pub deal was? Oh and it's still

787
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 2: Oh my god, so the ship is y'all you're ready

788
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 2: for this show?

789
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 1: Yeah? All right?

790
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:47,320
Speaker 2: Got the PUB deal in twenty fifteen? When did Kanye

791
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:47,799
Speaker 2: come out with?

792
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:48,320
Speaker 7: Uh?

793
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 2: The album when the couple just didn't have no joints

794
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 2: on it?

795
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 1: It was blank?

796
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:55,399
Speaker 2: What was that? What album?

797
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 1: Was this?

798
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 7: A couple of years ago?

799
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 2: That was like twenty what?

800
00:38:58,760 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 1: Yeah?

801
00:38:59,000 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 5: He's this?

802
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:04,359
Speaker 2: When dropped bro? Twenty sixteen? All right, cool boom, all right?

803
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 2: I got the contract twenty fifteen twenty Like towards the

804
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:10,360
Speaker 2: end of twenty sixteen, Kanye is and genius because he

805
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:12,919
Speaker 2: already knew that album's albums were about to be done.

806
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,760
Speaker 2: He knew that the streaming world was about to come crazy.

807
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 2: The MD the deal I was in said that no songs,

808
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 2: only one song counted, but they all had to be

809
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 2: on a CD. On album albums are extinct they're about

810
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:30,320
Speaker 2: to be extinct in twenty sixteen, bro, So that means

811
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 2: anything that I did that was just going to go

812
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:36,239
Speaker 2: on streaming platforms was not going to be counting. So

813
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 2: I was gonna be in this bitch forever my whole life.

814
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:40,319
Speaker 1: How many songs though, bro?

815
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 2: It was like seven songs full song, yes, bro, like bro.

816
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 3: I fourteen off the top top if you write the whole,

817
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 3: if you co write the top line. Now, ever'y talking

818
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 3: about twenty one twenty eight.

819
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 1: Sounded cool because you only heard seven and then no.

820
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 2: And not only that, I didn't know if the album, but.

821
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 1: You figured you could get it all done and one.

822
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 2: Not only that though, yeah, but not only that. It

823
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 2: was a lot of ship going on with the lawyer.

824
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 2: It was bad. It was I got I got a

825
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 2: swindled bad. But that's when I learned. I learned a

826
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:16,919
Speaker 2: lot of shit from that. So you know what I'm saying.

827
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 2: We ain't gonna go too crazy, but I learned a lot.

828
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:23,360
Speaker 1: So you feel like you're a lawyer. Wasn't my lawyer?

829
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:25,840
Speaker 2: Was wasn't my lawyer. My lawyer was given to me

830
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 2: by somebody else. That wasn't that. That wasn't my lawyer.

831
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:31,479
Speaker 2: So let's just say that you know your best interest,

832
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 2: they have my best interest, you know what I'm saying.

833
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, like I worked

834
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 2: so hard, I was like, that's cool. But but that's

835
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 2: the thing I thought it was gonna be on. I

836
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 2: didn't know the album part, Like I didn't know that.

837
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 1: You couldn't have known that because that's in the future, right,

838
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 1: And nobody knew that the future was going to be

839
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 1: that crazy except for the people on the other side.

840
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 1: So we saw iTunes and we're like, okay, iTunes now

841
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:02,400
Speaker 1: were separating songs. Now you can get a song without getting.

842
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 3: Honestly, none of this ship is a surprise accident design.

843
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 1: But the people writing the contracts you couldn't what I'm

844
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 1: saying that you couldn't have.

845
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 2: And nobody told me, she's this is a great contract

846
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 2: you should do, you know what I'm saying. So I'm like, okay, cool,

847
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 2: I need this and I needed some money. When you're desperate,

848
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:26,799
Speaker 2: that's what happens when you're desperate. And just why you

849
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 2: never be desperate for money. Just sit down and just

850
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:31,880
Speaker 2: just don't go out. Just sit you ass down and

851
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 2: eat some.

852
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 1: More, or you figure out your way to work for

853
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:39,320
Speaker 1: the desperation, right exactly, because if you if you are desperate,

854
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:46,480
Speaker 1: if you do need that money, then sometimes there's a

855
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 1: bullet that you just have to bite in the beginning

856
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 1: and you say, I'm going to be patient and work

857
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 1: through this and I'm just going to do bigger and

858
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:57,759
Speaker 1: better on the other side.

859
00:41:57,840 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 6: True.

860
00:41:58,160 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true.

861
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:02,839
Speaker 3: Because most people that complain about the bad deal never

862
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 3: did nothing beyond that deal, right Like, honestly, like you're

863
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 3: not complaining about that deal, You're just like it was

864
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 3: fucked up.

865
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 5: I made it through it.

866
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 3: Most of the people that be jumping and hollering about

867
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:16,759
Speaker 3: these man they fucked me over. And I would never

868
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:21,399
Speaker 3: because they never did anything else, honestly, because the more

869
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 3: you do, the unless you think about the sacrifices that

870
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 3: you had to make to get to the spot that

871
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 3: you're talking about it.

872
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 2: And some people really get Jaden really mentally. I know

873
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 2: people who really have lost their minds, like I've lost

874
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 2: their minds because because played with their money. You know

875
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Well, essence is playing with the which

876
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 2: is playing with their life.

877
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,400
Speaker 3: On God, I tell people all the time though, whenever

878
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 3: you know because I've had those conversations with a lot

879
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,359
Speaker 3: of those same type people, maybe the same people, where

880
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 3: I tell them, I said, don't ever get it confused.

881
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 3: That contract will not outlast your talent.

882
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:03,360
Speaker 5: That sound good, but it's true, it's really the truth.

883
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 3: Honestly, You're gonna go through the ship, and yes it's

884
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 3: gonna it's gonna get tough. But if you really got it,

885
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 3: if you really got it that ship, and especially as

886
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 3: you start putting up numbers, then there's this thing called

887
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 3: renegotiation and.

888
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 1: Reversion, you know what I mean. All the reds, all

889
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 1: the reds.

890
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:29,760
Speaker 3: Like that is really what this business is about. Because

891
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:35,240
Speaker 3: think about all the deals that people have done with artists,

892
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 3: with writers, with producers that never materialize and they never

893
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 3: got that money back.

894
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:42,839
Speaker 5: Imagine being on that side of the business. Because I've

895
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 5: been on that side of the business.

896
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 1: Spend I just believed then nothing, nothing ever came back

897
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 1: and been accused of not being.

898
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 5: Supportive when the bag was spent, you know what I mean.

899
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:00,760
Speaker 2: So there's two ways.

900
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, this R and B money thing, we give you

901
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 5: both sides.

902
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:08,840
Speaker 2: Of publishing, and I understand, like there's two s.

903
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 5: I have.

904
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:15,319
Speaker 1: I have three albums, one two, three six uh fors

905
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 1: of nature one man pain. Ask me how many statements

906
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 1: I've seen already?

907
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 2: Know how many STI I bet you like one? Two, none, one.

908
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:31,280
Speaker 1: I can believe that though one to how many artists

909
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 1: royalties I've ever received from those three albums.

910
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 2: Not that that's crazy, that's crazy for.

911
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 1: The course, when if I if I wallow in that,

912
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 1: if I lay in that and let that be the

913
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 1: end of me, we never get to know but one

914
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 1: hundred percent.

915
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:54,880
Speaker 2: But I'm sorry, bro, the industry is that's sick. I

916
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 2: just think people deserve like things should be fair. I

917
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 2: think it should be some type of la Let me.

918
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:01,840
Speaker 1: Tell you what the problem is, and we don't have

919
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 1: to go too far into it. But artists don't have unions.

920
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 1: I know, we don't have a governing or protective body

921
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 1: over us. It's designed to take advantage of us. The

922
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 1: entire business. I don't care if you're black, white, whatever

923
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:22,880
Speaker 1: you are. This entire business is designed to to to

924
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 1: to take advantage of you until you know better to

925
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:28,399
Speaker 1: do better. Now, what is great about it is that

926
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 1: one moment can change every motherfucking thing, right one.

927
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:39,279
Speaker 3: Record record, imagine being able to imagine, able to be

928
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:41,360
Speaker 3: able to live your life and make money off of

929
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 3: one game winner. That one game win, nigga got lucky

930
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 3: here one Now you dancing and saying this motherfucker all

931
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 3: over the world for the rest of your life, for.

932
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:54,319
Speaker 7: The rest of your life.

933
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 2: That's that's the thing about this music.

934
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 3: Maybe you can hit the lottery any day you wake

935
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 3: up and this ship.

936
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's just what it is. You get the lottery.

937
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:12,840
Speaker 2: Not that true. I've definitely hit the lottery because because

938
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:15,799
Speaker 2: first let's let's go to get to what's your first

939
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 2: placement and what's your first was it Demonica' stuff? My

940
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 2: first placement was Monica Baby, Baby Baby just right for

941
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 2: me with Little Wayne. I wrote that, and uh, I

942
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 2: did Fergie Milk Money Ship, I wrote, I wrote that

943
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 2: that was like, uh, that was like one of my

944
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 2: first big placements I did with Polo, So yeah, that

945
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:41,799
Speaker 2: was that was it. And then literally I get a

946
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 2: call for my boy, business Boy. It was one of

947
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 2: my favorite producers.

948
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 7: Yeah, he linked me with business Boys from the mill.

949
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:53,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, shout out to my next single. He's incredible. Shout

950
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 2: out to biz But literally that's my brother and like

951
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:59,400
Speaker 2: he hit me. He gave this guy my number. Andy

952
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 2: Steinway who became my manager. He came for the publishing

953
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:06,719
Speaker 2: world and he was He called me. He was like, yo,

954
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:09,400
Speaker 2: I know you're in Miami. I can't do nothing with

955
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:11,920
Speaker 2: I can't really help do nothing for you in Miami.

956
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:13,319
Speaker 5: But you in Miami.

957
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 2: He was like, if you come to l A like

958
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:21,320
Speaker 2: we can work. I was like, I got so many sessions.

959
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:23,439
Speaker 2: I started working with a whole bunch of like rap

960
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 2: Like this was around the time extentation was popping, Like

961
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 2: the whole Miami was lit. Like I'm talking about all

962
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:34,279
Speaker 2: the all those artists was at my Boys studio. We

963
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 2: was in Brickle at the top. It was like twenty

964
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:41,440
Speaker 2: guns on the table. Yeah, but in Miami, you know

965
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. But yeah, so like I'm talking about

966
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 2: Jimmy Duvall, who was amazing, but he didn't look at

967
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:51,360
Speaker 2: me for triple for excentation. So like we all like

968
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 2: this was our whole crew. Like we was there and

969
00:47:54,400 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 2: I was just getting money. I get a call. This

970
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 2: was actually I'm a little sick, and I think there

971
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 2: was COVID before we knew what COVID was. Bro I

972
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 2: was sick as a dog. I'm laying in bed. My

973
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 2: manager hit me up, was like, Yo, you want to

974
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 2: work with this new artist Lelana's X. And I'm like

975
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 2: and he was like, Billy Ray Sorrus, I was like,

976
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 2: hell yeah, let's go. And I was like he was like,

977
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 2: they want you to work on this song. And I

978
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:34,400
Speaker 2: was like, fuck yeah, I'm sick. But when tomorrow, I'm like,

979
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:37,400
Speaker 2: fuck I'm sick. But I was like, fuck it, I'm

980
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:39,400
Speaker 2: gonna going to this session. Like some just was like,

981
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 2: you gotta do this session. And so literally I go

982
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 2: to the session and they tell me the story about

983
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 2: this song, how this is how they do Black people

984
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:53,839
Speaker 2: were so so fucked up. They took Lana's song X song,

985
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:56,359
Speaker 2: which is old Time Road off the country charts because

986
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 2: they said it wasn't country, but it's because he was black.

987
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:01,880
Speaker 2: You are we all know, well it really really what

988
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:05,799
Speaker 2: it really was, right, So they did this. So now

989
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 2: Billy Ray's telling me the whole story about what happened

990
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 2: with Aki Breaky Heart. I didn't know about Achy breaking Heart.

991
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:15,280
Speaker 2: I just know Billy Ray, Syris from and Molly Cyrus.

992
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:17,880
Speaker 2: I used to love Hannah Montena and my mama, you know,

993
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 2: she thinks he a good looking white guy. Used to

994
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:21,040
Speaker 2: always hear that he's good looking. You know what I'm saying,

995
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:24,240
Speaker 2: that's just one of the things in the house. So boom.

996
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 2: So he's telling me, you know that the song actually

997
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 2: was number two. They would not let Achy Breaky Heart

998
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:33,880
Speaker 2: go to number one, and they took it out the

999
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:36,359
Speaker 2: country shots too. They did the boy dirty. They did

1000
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 2: them dirty too. So he was like, I felt so bad.

1001
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:42,840
Speaker 2: I was like, damn, bro, the game is so crazy.

1002
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:45,359
Speaker 2: So I was just like, it's just like we're like underdogs.

1003
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 2: It was like the underdogs of this shit. And so

1004
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 2: literally I got an opportunity to be a part of

1005
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:53,399
Speaker 2: one of the biggest songs in the world and ever

1006
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 2: bro ever, and then after that, shit just started going

1007
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 2: like it was just I was on them. I was

1008
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:03,279
Speaker 2: on them.

1009
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 5: Before you go to that. What are the numbers on

1010
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 5: that record at this point? Do you even know?

1011
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:12,800
Speaker 2: God, I don't even know. You see what be the numbers?

1012
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:16,800
Speaker 2: Look at the numbers.

1013
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 5: Numbers absolutely passed. Look at the numbers for me, absolutely pastmad.

1014
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:26,359
Speaker 2: Oh no, it's like fifteen times, sixteen times, it's fifteen times.

1015
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:32,279
Speaker 2: It's like fifteen, eighteen or eighteen million. It's crazy. It's

1016
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:32,840
Speaker 2: just crazy.

1017
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:32,960
Speaker 4: Bro.

1018
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 2: That's it's crazy, bro, and like uh Airbnb, just like

1019
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 2: we're constantly getting sinks on it. It's that that that

1020
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:44,799
Speaker 2: that just and I remember I was at Coachella when

1021
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 2: it hit number one, and that ship was when I

1022
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:48,759
Speaker 2: felt like that, when I felt like that nigga, I

1023
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 2: feel like that nigga that I was. It was crazy.

1024
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 2: It was so crazy coach Schello with a number one,

1025
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 2: like everybody niggas is on your ass. I never felt

1026
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 2: that shit, and I didn't like it. After a minute,

1027
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 2: I was like, all right, not these niggas. It was crazy.

1028
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:10,720
Speaker 1: It's just what it is, just what I tell people

1029
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 1: when you hot, bro, enjoy being hot.

1030
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 2: Bro. I realized, see, Bro, I don't really check. I'm

1031
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:20,960
Speaker 2: not a chart checker. I don't care about the charts.

1032
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:24,280
Speaker 2: But now that when I had all time I wrote,

1033
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:28,439
Speaker 2: I realized, like songs really only last like one week

1034
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 2: on number one, and you don't bro, that shit was

1035
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 2: nineteen weeks number one, So like after the third week,

1036
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 2: you're just you're not taking it in. I wasn't processing

1037
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:40,879
Speaker 2: it like it just I like, I wish I could

1038
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 2: have bottled that feeling in because like after the sixteenth

1039
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:45,799
Speaker 2: was like what the fuck is going Like we was

1040
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 2: number one for nineteen weeks. That was the craziest shit

1041
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:55,280
Speaker 2: in the world, and like it made me realize, like, damn,

1042
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 2: pop world is different. The pop world is just a

1043
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 2: different beast. But I was also scared of the pop

1044
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:05,479
Speaker 2: world because I didn't want to be that. I knew

1045
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:07,839
Speaker 2: that I was so much more than that. I didn't

1046
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 2: want to be caught up into Yeah, I didn't want

1047
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:13,840
Speaker 2: that what you said, the one hit Wonder. I was

1048
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 2: scared of being the one wonder. That song was too

1049
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:20,440
Speaker 2: big and for some people, a song can be bigger

1050
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:24,879
Speaker 2: than the person and the artist is like, can't come

1051
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 2: back from it, you know what I'm saying. So and

1052
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:35,359
Speaker 2: then Lemonade came with Don Tollivan Nafy. Yeah, that song

1053
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 2: came and it brought and yeah, yeah, yeah yeah I

1054
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 2: wrote that and literally that hit top ten Billboard charts.

1055
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:46,799
Speaker 2: So it was like hit number two, number five, number five,

1056
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 2: number two, I think.

1057
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:50,160
Speaker 3: And it's funny when you mentioned that song, I hear you,

1058
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:52,440
Speaker 3: I hear you.

1059
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:55,400
Speaker 5: I damn it feel like you freestyled that man. It

1060
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:56,320
Speaker 5: was it was life.

1061
00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 1: Because the way you sing, I just know the way

1062
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 1: you sing, like you just like not having those barriers,

1063
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:07,319
Speaker 1: no barriers with how you right and how you flow melodically.

1064
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 2: I just be like, yes, bro, no barriers, No what

1065
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:15,880
Speaker 2: you never had, can't bag my bitch, can't miss what

1066
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:21,239
Speaker 2: you never had? Like yeah, but literally that was that

1067
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 2: and then Boom missed the Right Now COVID hit, and

1068
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:27,400
Speaker 2: I thought I was gonna have a hit with with

1069
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:30,319
Speaker 2: twenty one Savage and Drake and I missed the Right

1070
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 2: Now with Metro booming Me and my boy tape Ko

1071
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 2: Bang did that, and I was like, this is gonna

1072
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 2: be the biggest song. And then COVID hit and it

1073
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 2: didn't do what it was supposed to do, but culturally

1074
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:43,319
Speaker 2: it was a big song, like that should have been

1075
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:44,960
Speaker 2: on the charts, Like I know that, Like if it

1076
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:47,319
Speaker 2: was no COVID, if Niggas is outside, missed the Right

1077
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:50,480
Speaker 2: Now would have been that joint. And after that everything

1078
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:55,800
Speaker 2: just started going. Then Summer Walker Body, and then then

1079
00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:57,800
Speaker 2: it just started going crazy.

1080
00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:00,759
Speaker 5: That record, that record, Oh my.

1081
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:03,920
Speaker 2: Gosh, it's so good. Special that jack Quee you, that

1082
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:04,440
Speaker 2: was one of my.

1083
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:08,239
Speaker 5: Favorite Should we go into this story? Should we go

1084
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:08,920
Speaker 5: into this story?

1085
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 2: What story? What talking?

1086
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 1: No?

1087
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 5: No, no, you don't even know this story. Oh so Jack

1088
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:14,400
Speaker 5: Quees pulls.

1089
00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 2: Up on us.

1090
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:19,200
Speaker 3: Word, oh, like just you know, just pull up, just

1091
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 3: came kicked it one time, right, and you know niggas,

1092
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:25,160
Speaker 3: you know, studio ship and.

1093
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:27,160
Speaker 1: You're like, can I play this record for y'all?

1094
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:32,320
Speaker 3: He's like, nigga, yeah, Nick passing the ox. He plays

1095
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 3: that record and the studio stops.

1096
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 5: He plays you. The studio stops, and niggas was.

1097
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:41,719
Speaker 1: Like, what the fuck is this?

1098
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 5: You're like, yeah, you know, you know, we've been thinking about.

1099
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:48,960
Speaker 1: I said, thinking, we let that nigga hap it. This

1100
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:53,360
Speaker 1: record smash for you smash. So you call bird Man

1101
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:58,799
Speaker 1: and you tell him this is the single, this is

1102
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:04,440
Speaker 1: the video, nigga. This is your foot in the door, right, nigga,

1103
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:10,440
Speaker 1: this is planet nigga. Nigga, you are here. That record crazy,

1104
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:15,920
Speaker 1: cold bloody incredible. I write records like I rate records,

1105
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:19,320
Speaker 1: like if I'm mad, if I'm mad that I don't

1106
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:22,719
Speaker 1: have the record, if I'm mad that I that I

1107
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 1: didn't produce it.

1108
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:26,719
Speaker 2: I heard that record, I was like, I really went

1109
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 2: through that. That happened to me. Like I wrote that

1110
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:33,640
Speaker 2: song in Miami with London on the ruck and shot.

1111
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:37,480
Speaker 2: I was talking to this girl and Shotty was hell bro,

1112
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:40,520
Speaker 2: and she hit my keys. She hit my keys. So

1113
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:42,200
Speaker 2: like when I say it was two thirty in the morning,

1114
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:43,680
Speaker 2: I got a car, it was literally two thirty in

1115
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:47,400
Speaker 2: the morning. Like London, we work late. In Miami, hit

1116
00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:49,840
Speaker 2: hit factory. Niggas work late. He's like, Y'll pull up

1117
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:52,520
Speaker 2: to the studio and I can't find my keys. She

1118
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:54,480
Speaker 2: didn't want me to leave. I'm trying to get up

1119
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:57,239
Speaker 2: out of there, and like she just made it so

1120
00:55:57,360 --> 00:55:59,320
Speaker 2: hard for me to go to that session. I was like,

1121
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:02,520
Speaker 2: show that you like fucking my whole vibe. Wrote that

1122
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:05,440
Speaker 2: song because I'd rather be with you and all your bullshit,

1123
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:08,560
Speaker 2: like I'm still with you, like I as soon as

1124
00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:11,719
Speaker 2: I got back home col up. So it was just

1125
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:13,920
Speaker 2: like you know what I'm saying. So that song was

1126
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:15,839
Speaker 2: really about shot Is you know who it is? Every

1127
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:18,759
Speaker 2: time you hear she like this my song, like you crazy?

1128
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:22,040
Speaker 2: Are you happy? You happy that you brought me hell

1129
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:22,960
Speaker 2: all that day?

1130
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:26,960
Speaker 3: Everything about that song is right now to me, Like

1131
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:29,600
Speaker 3: and I've told you this every time I see you,

1132
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:31,040
Speaker 3: how much I love your work.

1133
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:31,520
Speaker 2: Thank you.

1134
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:33,879
Speaker 5: That's my favorite song you've written that I've heard.

1135
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:34,439
Speaker 2: Thank you.

1136
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:35,680
Speaker 1: That means to this day.

1137
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 5: That means a lot of I love that today Alone

1138
00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:41,200
Speaker 5: is close. Alone is close.

1139
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:41,920
Speaker 2: Thank you, bro.

1140
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:44,279
Speaker 3: So you know I looked at I looked at my

1141
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:47,680
Speaker 3: what the ship that they send you of, like.

1142
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:50,520
Speaker 2: Oh, the Spotify rapper, Yeah, yeah, your wrap ups.

1143
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:52,440
Speaker 3: You know everybody you know you have it for all

1144
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:55,880
Speaker 3: your Yeah, the platforms that you listen to. That record

1145
00:56:56,040 --> 00:56:57,359
Speaker 3: was at the top.

1146
00:56:58,440 --> 00:56:59,360
Speaker 1: I love alone.

1147
00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:00,680
Speaker 2: I love to hear that.

1148
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:04,000
Speaker 5: I love that record for you. That's my ship you.

1149
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:07,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think everybody goes through that little moment and

1150
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:09,800
Speaker 2: that's what I love. I love writing songs that are personal,

1151
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:14,560
Speaker 2: like personal like you. I just feel like even when

1152
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:16,600
Speaker 2: I write songs for C B, like I love when

1153
00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:19,520
Speaker 2: he sings when he's vulnerable.

1154
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:23,800
Speaker 1: I don't he's untouchable, but R and B I want

1155
00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:25,920
Speaker 1: him to be. Yeah, I want you to when he singing,

1156
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:30,600
Speaker 1: when he's singing in a vulnerable Paris at the at

1157
00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:33,240
Speaker 1: the at the at the show in Paris, and he's

1158
00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:37,360
Speaker 1: saying when he sang please don't judge me, and I'm

1159
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:41,680
Speaker 1: sitting there like, am I about to cry? I gotta

1160
00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:49,000
Speaker 1: relax because when he's in that space, it's over. And

1161
00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:55,480
Speaker 1: I'm watching the entire crowd, like that's my son on stage.

1162
00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:58,960
Speaker 7: He's just it's hard as good, as hard as good

1163
00:57:58,960 --> 00:57:59,680
Speaker 7: as you know.

1164
00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:02,760
Speaker 2: No really talk. And that's why, like John Cuez was

1165
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:04,400
Speaker 2: it was such a perfect song film because it's like

1166
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:07,440
Speaker 2: you're you're being vulnerable, bro, like you're not trying to

1167
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:09,120
Speaker 2: say fuck these holes, none of this.

1168
00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:11,760
Speaker 1: It's just like literally to me, that song established him

1169
00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:13,880
Speaker 1: as a true R and B artist. Thank you. That

1170
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:17,880
Speaker 1: means a lot, like and it's everything I think, you know,

1171
00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:21,320
Speaker 1: it's those things where everything happens at the right time,

1172
00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:23,800
Speaker 1: you writing the melody is all these things. But then

1173
00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:28,800
Speaker 1: his delivery. He sounds impeccable on that record. He sounds

1174
00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:32,480
Speaker 1: amazing on that record. I said, yeah, you're you're you're

1175
00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:35,479
Speaker 1: exactly who you think you are. Damn Now he's torn

1176
00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:37,440
Speaker 1: all over the place. And for me, I feel like

1177
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:42,439
Speaker 1: the foundation is that record. Foundation is that record because

1178
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:45,280
Speaker 1: because late at night, okay, where you are what you're

1179
00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:47,080
Speaker 1: doing that one right there?

1180
00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:51,240
Speaker 2: You know, it'd be so crazy to me. Like that's

1181
00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:53,280
Speaker 2: why I feel like it's sometimes we need to have

1182
00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:56,640
Speaker 2: like oh cheese or like people around us who talk

1183
00:58:56,840 --> 00:58:58,200
Speaker 2: to be like, yo, you need to get back in

1184
00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:00,520
Speaker 2: the studio. With John Zy you and we need to

1185
00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:04,440
Speaker 2: get back you know, somebody who's in our ears to

1186
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:07,520
Speaker 2: make that situation happen, because there was no way that

1187
00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:10,080
Speaker 2: we just did you just do one, We just do one.

1188
00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:12,400
Speaker 2: And I always say that to him. I'm like, there's

1189
00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:14,600
Speaker 2: no way you could have used me anytime you want.

1190
00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:17,560
Speaker 2: I'm here. I've always extended myself to them, and like, yo,

1191
00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:21,640
Speaker 2: use me, just don't misuse me. Use me though, I'm

1192
00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:23,560
Speaker 2: here to be used, like you know what I'm saying,

1193
00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:27,040
Speaker 2: And like it's just so crazy because like that's what

1194
00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:30,280
Speaker 2: this industry is. It's a it's a service industry where

1195
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:33,040
Speaker 2: we work, you make the hits. And the fact that

1196
00:59:33,080 --> 00:59:35,480
Speaker 2: we only caught lightning one time and that was the

1197
00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:38,200
Speaker 2: only time you work, it is so crazy that we

1198
00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:39,640
Speaker 2: should have definitely.

1199
00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:45,760
Speaker 1: Definitely got to give definitely come on, two, three more,

1200
00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:48,960
Speaker 1: come on, man, you gotta do it. He sent me

1201
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:50,760
Speaker 1: something to get on that I'm about to get on,

1202
00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:53,720
Speaker 1: and when I send it back, I'm saying, also, JOSSI

1203
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:58,560
Speaker 1: said we gotta get back in, and we said catch

1204
00:59:58,640 --> 00:59:59,200
Speaker 1: lightning again.

1205
01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:00,800
Speaker 2: God.

1206
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:12,520
Speaker 1: Sure, that's when you're really really good when you just

1207
01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:16,520
Speaker 1: make shoot they do a hook and sound good. Like,

1208
01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:20,600
Speaker 1: now you just cheating. Now you now you're being disrespectful.

1209
01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:23,320
Speaker 1: You trying to get sucked up because everybody can't do that.

1210
01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:33,520
Speaker 2: Everybody can't do it, all right, what the people have

1211
01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:34,120
Speaker 2: been waiting for?

1212
01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:45,040
Speaker 1: People have been waiting for. In your journeys, you're studying

1213
01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:57,000
Speaker 1: this music thing. I know you've come across to some

1214
01:00:57,200 --> 01:01:05,400
Speaker 1: artists that have influenced you in a way. They become

1215
01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:20,919
Speaker 1: your top five, your top five mm hm, top five? Hey,

1216
01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:22,680
Speaker 1: your top five?

1217
01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:32,840
Speaker 4: Ay he singer already be song I know you're young,

1218
01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:36,880
Speaker 4: but I know you know because I know your show

1219
01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:39,360
Speaker 4: and your god and tell us ya.

1220
01:01:43,160 --> 01:01:51,480
Speaker 1: Yes, rapp.

1221
01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:55,919
Speaker 2: Man, it's crazy.

1222
01:01:56,200 --> 01:02:04,280
Speaker 7: Josey's tip. Fuck, I agree.

1223
01:02:09,120 --> 01:02:11,960
Speaker 1: We got to get this nigga better, piano man ship,

1224
01:02:12,040 --> 01:02:13,640
Speaker 1: don't change this, don't.

1225
01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:16,080
Speaker 2: Change for nobody that nigga should have clapped in the back.

1226
01:02:16,160 --> 01:02:29,360
Speaker 1: And my god, sexual chocolate, Josie. Your top five R

1227
01:02:29,440 --> 01:02:32,120
Speaker 1: and B singers, That is tough.

1228
01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:37,880
Speaker 2: That is tough. I thought you're gonna ask me the songwriters.

1229
01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:39,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I'm just no, we'll get that.

1230
01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:48,920
Speaker 2: Alright. One twelve, I'm Carl Thomas. I'm sorry. Carl Thomas

1231
01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:53,200
Speaker 2: is my that's know, Carl Thomas is I should get

1232
01:02:53,240 --> 01:02:55,200
Speaker 2: himatted somewhere on me. I have like a thing of

1233
01:02:55,320 --> 01:02:57,280
Speaker 2: like all of my favorite and I really would love

1234
01:02:57,320 --> 01:02:59,919
Speaker 2: to get Carl Thomas tatted on me somewhere because he's

1235
01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:01,720
Speaker 2: he's one of my favorite.

1236
01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:04,840
Speaker 1: That's my god. I'm gonna go ah.

1237
01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:08,280
Speaker 2: His voice just cuts through too good, and I just

1238
01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:13,720
Speaker 2: love that her tonality. And I mean, what you was doing,

1239
01:03:15,160 --> 01:03:15,959
Speaker 2: she's so bad.

1240
01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:18,960
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna look at the nigga.

1241
01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:22,120
Speaker 1: I was with Jamie Fox. I was with Jamie Fox

1242
01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:24,680
Speaker 1: as a background singers.

1243
01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:29,680
Speaker 3: Afterwards, the background and that list, I'm saying, if I'm

1244
01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:33,320
Speaker 3: talking to shout a little bank, ain't no bank.

1245
01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:37,000
Speaker 1: I was broke. He wasn't. I don't have the right words.

1246
01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:43,920
Speaker 1: He wasn't money with Jamie Fox was in there the

1247
01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:46,400
Speaker 1: Oscar Winner. He soaked up the room.

1248
01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:47,080
Speaker 5: That's even more.

1249
01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:51,200
Speaker 3: I knocked shot forgot that the conversation, right, yeah, you

1250
01:03:51,320 --> 01:03:53,320
Speaker 3: know he was at this little thing, right, I knocked shot.

1251
01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:57,120
Speaker 1: Jamie was there too. He tried and I knocked it,

1252
01:03:57,200 --> 01:04:00,920
Speaker 1: and I was well, I was at know what to say,

1253
01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:03,360
Speaker 1: but I said, Hi, he's supposed to be from the

1254
01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:05,520
Speaker 1: mid West. Listen, man, how was.

1255
01:04:05,520 --> 01:04:06,440
Speaker 2: The energy when you said that?

1256
01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:11,360
Speaker 1: She floated in Marvin gay you Better do it and

1257
01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:12,720
Speaker 1: only you better do it.

1258
01:04:12,840 --> 01:04:15,280
Speaker 2: I hate to yeah, not Marvin gay Bro, like I

1259
01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:18,120
Speaker 2: don't here. My Dear is my favorite album of Marvin

1260
01:04:18,160 --> 01:04:21,640
Speaker 2: Gaye's and only because I loved like my pop used

1261
01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:23,080
Speaker 2: to always tell me the story.

1262
01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:23,840
Speaker 5: The story behind it.

1263
01:04:24,080 --> 01:04:25,920
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm just gonna have to go with what I

1264
01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:30,880
Speaker 2: listened to all the time, and it's Stevie Wonder. I'm sorry, Bro,

1265
01:04:31,240 --> 01:04:35,000
Speaker 2: I'm sorry no, but only because because because like I know,

1266
01:04:35,040 --> 01:04:37,720
Speaker 2: people probably expect me to say something else like, but.

1267
01:04:38,680 --> 01:04:40,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, if they know you, they get it.

1268
01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:41,200
Speaker 2: Stevie Bro.

1269
01:04:41,720 --> 01:04:46,760
Speaker 1: Your Top five R and B songs, M.

1270
01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:53,040
Speaker 2: God, damn oh ain't supposed to be easy. Top five

1271
01:04:53,200 --> 01:04:56,480
Speaker 2: R and B song Number five Curtis may Feel Sweet Exorcists,

1272
01:04:59,560 --> 01:05:02,600
Speaker 2: I think has to be what I'm the only one

1273
01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:06,200
Speaker 2: you need. Oh you have to mean you had me?

1274
01:05:07,160 --> 01:05:07,760
Speaker 7: Uh uh?

1275
01:05:08,200 --> 01:05:08,520
Speaker 1: Mary J.

1276
01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:12,240
Speaker 2: Blige, I gave you my hunt to you. I love

1277
01:05:12,320 --> 01:05:19,240
Speaker 2: that song. Number five, Number three Carl Thomas, I wish Sorry,

1278
01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:23,360
Speaker 2: I gotta go there. Number two Stevie Wonder. Rocket Love

1279
01:05:24,080 --> 01:05:30,000
Speaker 2: mm hmm, sorry that rocket love is crazy. It's between

1280
01:05:30,120 --> 01:05:35,600
Speaker 2: rocket love or visions. Visions is cold. I love Visions

1281
01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:40,480
Speaker 2: two though, but and my number one song, Damn don'g

1282
01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:48,240
Speaker 2: I yo, my number one song. This is tough because

1283
01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:51,120
Speaker 2: you can't. I feel like I'm disrespecting my people that

1284
01:05:51,240 --> 01:05:53,960
Speaker 2: I love because I have so many grace like songs.

1285
01:05:54,920 --> 01:05:57,720
Speaker 2: But I have to go. Can I can I do

1286
01:05:57,880 --> 01:05:59,840
Speaker 2: like a one? Like a one a at one point?

1287
01:06:00,560 --> 01:06:01,280
Speaker 1: Will let you do that?

1288
01:06:01,880 --> 01:06:02,160
Speaker 7: All right?

1289
01:06:02,480 --> 01:06:03,400
Speaker 1: Let your top.

1290
01:06:05,240 --> 01:06:07,840
Speaker 2: Oestly brothers. Let me down easy? It's one of my

1291
01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:12,520
Speaker 2: favorite R and B songs. Let Me down Easy? Is

1292
01:06:13,760 --> 01:06:16,480
Speaker 2: I play that ship like on my my wrap up.

1293
01:06:16,560 --> 01:06:20,040
Speaker 2: I was laughing like because it plays in the background.

1294
01:06:20,040 --> 01:06:26,280
Speaker 2: I was like, damn oh that nigga dollars like that

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01:06:26,360 --> 01:06:29,960
Speaker 2: ship was funny thog. But like, I just love old school.

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01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:33,560
Speaker 2: I love some music like that. So let me down easy?

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01:06:34,640 --> 01:06:37,680
Speaker 2: And probably can I say R Kelly?

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01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:41,400
Speaker 7: You can say whatever you want to say, yeah, podcast.

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01:06:41,120 --> 01:06:47,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, r r R Kelly. I can't breathe.

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01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:59,840
Speaker 1: What else? You got? What you got for? Mm hmm.

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01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:03,200
Speaker 1: I ain't saying no neggs. Hey, ain't saying no names.

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01:07:03,560 --> 01:07:04,680
Speaker 1: A saying no names?

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01:07:08,080 --> 01:07:08,360
Speaker 6: Weird?

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01:07:09,160 --> 01:07:09,919
Speaker 2: What you did?

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01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:15,360
Speaker 1: Don't say? I ain't saying no names.

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01:07:16,960 --> 01:07:21,880
Speaker 2: Hey, I got too many stories?

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01:07:21,960 --> 01:07:25,280
Speaker 5: Hey, come on come on, come on. Yeah, yeah, so listen,

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01:07:25,440 --> 01:07:26,160
Speaker 5: so listen, listen.

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01:07:26,200 --> 01:07:29,880
Speaker 3: You here you are at the R and B Money podcast,

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01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:33,480
Speaker 3: and we are at that section, were at that segment

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01:07:33,680 --> 01:07:38,240
Speaker 3: of the show, so obviously you know you watched it.

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01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:39,480
Speaker 5: You watched the podcast.

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01:07:39,600 --> 01:07:42,960
Speaker 2: Definitely, no no, this is saying no names.

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01:07:43,760 --> 01:07:46,480
Speaker 3: Segment of the show. Will you tell us your story

1315
01:07:47,280 --> 01:07:51,560
Speaker 3: funny or fucked up? Are funny and fucked up? In

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01:07:51,680 --> 01:07:54,680
Speaker 3: the Travels in the Journey of Jossey.

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01:07:55,240 --> 01:07:55,760
Speaker 2: No names.

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01:07:56,040 --> 01:07:58,160
Speaker 5: That's the only rules of the game, and no other

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01:07:58,240 --> 01:07:59,960
Speaker 5: rules of the game. Just don't say no names.

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01:08:00,720 --> 01:08:02,520
Speaker 2: Boy, I got so many stories.

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01:08:02,960 --> 01:08:05,400
Speaker 5: What a couple of niggas told us two or three.

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01:08:06,120 --> 01:08:07,800
Speaker 2: I'ma give you one. I gotta give you the best way.

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01:08:07,880 --> 01:08:07,960
Speaker 6: Now.

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01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:10,040
Speaker 2: I don't know why they think of this. When I

1325
01:08:10,160 --> 01:08:20,840
Speaker 2: was driving, like, uh so I want to tell this story.

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01:08:21,000 --> 01:08:23,800
Speaker 2: Fuck it so literally. It was this producer. I was

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01:08:23,840 --> 01:08:28,799
Speaker 2: working with, a big producer. Uh he was in Miami

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01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:31,960
Speaker 2: and I don't know why he had. We was working

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01:08:32,120 --> 01:08:36,240
Speaker 2: and he he just felt obligated to tell me that

1330
01:08:37,080 --> 01:08:43,160
Speaker 2: he didn't like his girl messing with girls. And he

1331
01:08:43,320 --> 01:08:47,519
Speaker 2: was like, I don't like. He was like, I don't like,

1332
01:08:49,400 --> 01:08:53,240
Speaker 2: I don't like gay girls around my girl and ship like.

1333
01:08:54,920 --> 01:08:58,000
Speaker 1: I was like, who all right?

1334
01:08:58,160 --> 01:09:01,160
Speaker 2: So now I'm this is my first time meeting this nigga,

1335
01:09:01,840 --> 01:09:04,120
Speaker 2: like working with him. So I'm like, now I'm scared

1336
01:09:04,400 --> 01:09:07,400
Speaker 2: because I'm like gay girl. I'm like, yo, not not

1337
01:09:07,560 --> 01:09:09,160
Speaker 2: scared in the sist like he gonna but I'm like,

1338
01:09:09,720 --> 01:09:12,479
Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't want him to feel like I

1339
01:09:12,479 --> 01:09:13,960
Speaker 2: don't even want this nigga to feel like I'm trying

1340
01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:17,360
Speaker 2: to talk to his girl. Shit boom, here we go.

1341
01:09:17,520 --> 01:09:18,479
Speaker 5: Okay, So.

1342
01:09:20,760 --> 01:09:22,240
Speaker 2: I walked out, get in the studio. We walk in

1343
01:09:22,280 --> 01:09:24,280
Speaker 2: the room and we outside like playing ball, and he's

1344
01:09:24,360 --> 01:09:26,240
Speaker 2: telling me this shit, and like, you know what I'm saying.

1345
01:09:26,439 --> 01:09:29,200
Speaker 2: I think he's preparing me for when his girl comes.

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01:09:29,240 --> 01:09:30,800
Speaker 2: I don't know what he's doing, but I'm like, this

1347
01:09:31,000 --> 01:09:34,759
Speaker 2: is so weird. This is a weird conversation. So getting

1348
01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:38,720
Speaker 2: the studio and his girl come in girl bad. I

1349
01:09:38,840 --> 01:09:42,040
Speaker 2: remember this shit, and I was just trying to stay

1350
01:09:42,320 --> 01:09:45,160
Speaker 2: far away from her because the whole time I'm in

1351
01:09:45,280 --> 01:09:48,000
Speaker 2: my head, I heard this nigga say, yeah, like I

1352
01:09:48,160 --> 01:09:51,080
Speaker 2: just don't like my girl when she like that's he's

1353
01:09:51,200 --> 01:09:53,439
Speaker 2: kind of gifsty, And you know most niggas is really

1354
01:09:53,479 --> 01:09:55,679
Speaker 2: cool with like girls on girls and all that shit.

1355
01:09:56,040 --> 01:09:58,120
Speaker 2: But I don't. I just think he just he just

1356
01:09:58,240 --> 01:10:00,799
Speaker 2: let me know right there his insecurity. It was crazy,

1357
01:10:01,280 --> 01:10:06,479
Speaker 2: so cool. I'm like, literally, I'm on the other side

1358
01:10:06,479 --> 01:10:08,920
Speaker 2: of the tap for some reason, this girl is just

1359
01:10:09,240 --> 01:10:12,080
Speaker 2: wants to talk to me. No I'm talking about, wants

1360
01:10:12,160 --> 01:10:15,280
Speaker 2: to have a conversation. And I'm like yeah, yeah, uh huh.

1361
01:10:15,760 --> 01:10:20,160
Speaker 2: And like I'm back in my phone and like she's

1362
01:10:20,280 --> 01:10:22,559
Speaker 2: like he's making the beat and I can just tell

1363
01:10:22,600 --> 01:10:30,400
Speaker 2: he's paying attention, like side, and I'm just so scared.

1364
01:10:30,520 --> 01:10:32,519
Speaker 2: She's like come here. It's like I'm over there, so

1365
01:10:32,600 --> 01:10:38,479
Speaker 2: I sit. But like that moment, she was trying it,

1366
01:10:38,680 --> 01:10:40,679
Speaker 2: and I was just thinking of myself, Yo, this girl

1367
01:10:40,800 --> 01:10:43,519
Speaker 2: either this girl is not his girl, and he's just

1368
01:10:43,640 --> 01:10:47,000
Speaker 2: like yo, I'm trying to get her, so don't touch her.

1369
01:10:48,160 --> 01:10:48,760
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

1370
01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:51,760
Speaker 1: We already know what she I already know what she's own.

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01:10:52,120 --> 01:10:54,720
Speaker 2: So bro, the whole session. Bro, I'm telling you, I've

1372
01:10:54,800 --> 01:10:59,200
Speaker 2: never been so and that was like my first like

1373
01:10:59,360 --> 01:11:04,800
Speaker 2: that was like a crazy yeah bro, yeah, So it was. Yeah,

1374
01:11:04,920 --> 01:11:08,960
Speaker 2: that was a crazy moment and literally the yeah, I

1375
01:11:09,000 --> 01:11:11,479
Speaker 2: ain't gonna talk about what else happened, But yeah, that was.

1376
01:11:12,960 --> 01:11:13,160
Speaker 1: Nothing.

1377
01:11:13,240 --> 01:11:13,880
Speaker 2: It was just the girl.

1378
01:11:14,040 --> 01:11:14,760
Speaker 5: She was on it.

1379
01:11:15,160 --> 01:11:16,840
Speaker 2: She was on it, bro, And so now I get it,

1380
01:11:16,920 --> 01:11:19,280
Speaker 2: but like I don't. He didn't say anything, but I remember,

1381
01:11:19,320 --> 01:11:21,040
Speaker 2: it's just that moment, and if I told you the

1382
01:11:21,080 --> 01:11:22,960
Speaker 2: producer was it, you'd be like, oh word, it was

1383
01:11:23,000 --> 01:11:24,519
Speaker 2: just crazy, Like mm hm.

1384
01:11:25,360 --> 01:11:26,920
Speaker 1: The question you don't have to answer. But I'm just

1385
01:11:26,920 --> 01:11:28,280
Speaker 1: saying that I'm not gonna did she.

1386
01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:33,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, she definitely did. Yeah, Nah, she definitely. I didn't

1387
01:11:33,479 --> 01:11:35,280
Speaker 2: do nothing with it. No, No, not at all. No,

1388
01:11:35,600 --> 01:11:37,640
Speaker 2: Like definitely. I don't mess with niggas girls. Oh, I

1389
01:11:37,680 --> 01:11:41,360
Speaker 2: don't give a fuck if I see you with her. Nah.

1390
01:11:41,560 --> 01:11:44,160
Speaker 1: And that was just a moral judgment calling your partner.

1391
01:11:44,200 --> 01:11:46,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not about to no, because like this industry

1392
01:11:46,920 --> 01:11:49,000
Speaker 2: is so small and niggas do that, and niggas really

1393
01:11:49,080 --> 01:11:53,360
Speaker 2: love that ship. I on the other hand, I'm very

1394
01:11:53,479 --> 01:11:57,920
Speaker 2: big on like I respect whatever that ship whatever. Yeah,

1395
01:11:58,240 --> 01:11:59,960
Speaker 2: And then to her it may not be that serial,

1396
01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:03,439
Speaker 2: but to him it's serious or to her it's serious,

1397
01:12:03,479 --> 01:12:04,880
Speaker 2: and to him it's not that serious. You know what

1398
01:12:04,880 --> 01:12:06,920
Speaker 2: I'm saying. So I don't play with that. But I

1399
01:12:07,120 --> 01:12:09,080
Speaker 2: just now I get, like I was like, oh, Shoty

1400
01:12:09,240 --> 01:12:12,120
Speaker 2: was like choosing up and he just but no, I didn't.

1401
01:12:12,160 --> 01:12:20,120
Speaker 2: I didn't know there's too many that's crazy. No, it

1402
01:12:20,280 --> 01:12:26,920
Speaker 2: was it was like I don't want I don't want

1403
01:12:26,960 --> 01:12:28,639
Speaker 2: to like, don't even want to sit. I don't even

1404
01:12:28,640 --> 01:12:32,120
Speaker 2: want to talk to you for a long time. But

1405
01:12:32,240 --> 01:12:34,360
Speaker 2: you know what I told myself, No nigga ever made

1406
01:12:34,360 --> 01:12:36,080
Speaker 2: me feel like that again in a session, Like I

1407
01:12:36,240 --> 01:12:39,679
Speaker 2: learned from that, like if you insecure, nigga, that show problem.

1408
01:12:40,040 --> 01:12:42,599
Speaker 2: But you're not gonna give me out of my zone

1409
01:12:42,920 --> 01:12:45,519
Speaker 2: to talk to nobody in the room because I'm not

1410
01:12:45,840 --> 01:12:48,960
Speaker 2: I'm not coming with no ill intentions, Like I wasn't

1411
01:12:49,000 --> 01:12:51,160
Speaker 2: coming on. But I was really scared to even talk

1412
01:12:51,200 --> 01:12:53,160
Speaker 2: to the girl. But but that's that just show you

1413
01:12:53,200 --> 01:12:56,200
Speaker 2: I was young and I was green to like the energies,

1414
01:12:56,240 --> 01:12:58,320
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, But like like now I'm

1415
01:12:58,400 --> 01:13:01,240
Speaker 2: like walking to my truth and then and you just

1416
01:13:01,280 --> 01:13:03,320
Speaker 2: got to understand I ain't on that tight time, you

1417
01:13:03,360 --> 01:13:05,720
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. But yeah, that was crazy, bro.

1418
01:13:05,880 --> 01:13:08,479
Speaker 2: That ship was such a I was sweating, like, Yo,

1419
01:13:08,600 --> 01:13:10,200
Speaker 2: this nigga gonna really not fun with me.

1420
01:13:10,720 --> 01:13:11,880
Speaker 1: Came out the gate with it.

1421
01:13:12,680 --> 01:13:14,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, out the gate like he was like he was

1422
01:13:14,840 --> 01:13:16,679
Speaker 2: warming me upon.

1423
01:13:17,280 --> 01:13:17,479
Speaker 7: Wow.

1424
01:13:18,800 --> 01:13:19,160
Speaker 3: Was no.

1425
01:13:19,400 --> 01:13:21,679
Speaker 2: It was so crazy, like the insecurity of this dude.

1426
01:13:21,840 --> 01:13:23,200
Speaker 2: And I'll be seeing him to this day and I

1427
01:13:23,320 --> 01:13:24,479
Speaker 2: always remember that session.

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01:13:24,840 --> 01:13:29,800
Speaker 1: My girl gonna see her and go crazy. I gotta

1429
01:13:30,200 --> 01:13:35,800
Speaker 1: this in the bud early, Yo. That's sad because he

1430
01:13:35,920 --> 01:13:36,880
Speaker 1: knew you had it on you.

1431
01:13:38,520 --> 01:13:40,880
Speaker 2: It was crazy and I wasn't even like that then.

1432
01:13:41,160 --> 01:13:42,320
Speaker 7: That was crazy.

1433
01:13:42,920 --> 01:13:47,040
Speaker 1: But Jose listen, man, man, I heard that heard we

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01:13:47,360 --> 01:13:53,160
Speaker 1: we we love you up here. Yeah, sure, we love

1435
01:13:53,200 --> 01:13:59,720
Speaker 1: you man. You you have, you have access, Thank you free,

1436
01:14:00,439 --> 01:14:03,559
Speaker 1: thank you, you have support, you got brothers, you got

1437
01:14:03,640 --> 01:14:04,240
Speaker 1: whatever you need.

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01:14:04,400 --> 01:14:07,040
Speaker 2: Thank you. I appreciate it. Thank you, thank you for sharing.

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01:14:09,040 --> 01:14:14,120
Speaker 1: The only rule is you must keep going. See that

1440
01:14:14,880 --> 01:14:18,240
Speaker 1: us keep going. You know what I'm saying.

1441
01:14:18,560 --> 01:14:25,240
Speaker 2: Capable hands, Yeah, thank you, come on ye, thank you

1442
01:14:25,360 --> 01:14:26,200
Speaker 2: to thank you.

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01:14:27,200 --> 01:14:30,760
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