1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:02,840 Speaker 1: Brought to you by the reinvented two thousand twelve camera. 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:09,880 Speaker 1: It's ready. Are you welcome to stuff mom never told you? 3 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:17,599 Speaker 1: From house stuff Works dot Com. Hello and welcome to 4 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 1: the podcast. I'm Kristen and I'm Caroline. Or should I 5 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 1: have said welcome to us slumba potty? Actually no, well yeah, 6 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 1: because we're awake, were there? We are in sleeping bags, 7 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 1: but we're not sleeping. I'm wearing a high necked nightgown 8 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:39,200 Speaker 1: and there's popcorn a popping And to kick things off, 9 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 1: I have a slumber party story. Please hit me. Well, 10 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:47,839 Speaker 1: it has to do with losing a tooth. I have 11 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:51,240 Speaker 1: there one of my front teeth, the one right next 12 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 1: to the second one over really makes note sense. I'm 13 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 1: going to post a picture of myself with a giant 14 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 1: arrow pointing to the tooth in question. Gin uh, it's 15 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:07,319 Speaker 1: actually a fake tooth. Yeah you heard it her first, folks, 16 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 1: Christian's got a fake tooth. Because I was at a 17 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 1: slumber party when I was probably twelve eleven or twelve 18 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:18,039 Speaker 1: years old, and we were all in the living room 19 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:22,040 Speaker 1: and my sleeping bag was next to the fireplace. There 20 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: was some rough housing going on because it was late 21 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:27,559 Speaker 1: at night and we'd probably had too many marshmallows, and 22 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: someone knocked over the fire poker and it landed on 23 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 1: It landed on my face, and it chipped off half 24 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 1: my tooth, and it really didn't I don't remember hurting 25 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 1: all that badly. I remember like laughing uncontrollably because of 26 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 1: all this silliness going on, seeing in slow motion of 27 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 1: fire poker coming towards my face, and then so I 28 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 1: being like, are you okay, and being like, yeah, I'm 29 00:01:54,960 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: totally oh, my tooth gone so and that in our 30 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: podcast on slubber Party, So anyone out there listening who 31 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 1: might have a slumber party coming up for whatever reason, 32 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 1: steer clear of the fireplace or any big blunt objects 33 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 1: that could knock a child in the face. When I 34 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 1: when people, when I tell people about my tooth, I 35 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 1: have to tell the whole story, because if I say 36 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 1: it got knocked out with a fire poker, it doesn't 37 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:24,799 Speaker 1: go over quite as well. And then I hit him 38 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 1: back with a shovel. Um. Yeah, I I I myself 39 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 1: was not a very good sleeper over or um. Slumber 40 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 1: parties were better for me because I kind of knew 41 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 1: that I had to suck it up and and just 42 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:39,639 Speaker 1: even if I didn't sleep all night, I just had 43 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:41,920 Speaker 1: to lie there and not be the kid that went home. 44 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 1: Sleepovers were a lot more difficult for me. I think 45 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:48,399 Speaker 1: maybe I had, oh, I don't know, like a handful 46 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 1: of successful ones out of the mini that I went to, 47 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 1: because as as I am now, I was a little 48 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:59,080 Speaker 1: kind of anxiety written sleeper. I I I needed the 49 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 1: comfort of my bed, my own space. I had to 50 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 1: have the fan running. I didn't like being in different 51 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 1: environments that were unfamiliar and smelled weird. God, some people's 52 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 1: houses smell weird, and so I would often end up 53 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 1: calling my mother to come get me at like ten 54 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:17,519 Speaker 1: or eleven and night. Oh you were one of those kids, 55 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 1: I was, Well, you're distinguishing between sleepover versus slumber party. 56 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 1: How would you well, slumber party I think of as 57 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: like birthday party or special event where there's like, you know, 58 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: a handful of girls, ten girls. However many um sleepover 59 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 1: I think of just as like your friend is inviting 60 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 1: you to come over on a Saturday, Friday night or 61 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 1: Saturday night, and then you go home in the morning. 62 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 1: But I usually went home at night. Yeah, I don't. 63 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 1: I don't know if it was because of the homeschooling aspect, 64 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 1: but sleepovers and slumber parties like I lived for them. 65 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 1: If I could have been a professional sleepover I would 66 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 1: have done it because I loved. One thing that I 67 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 1: really enjoyed about sleeping over at kids houses was the 68 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: next morning the cereal because my mom Wis bought super 69 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 1: healthy cereals, so we had it was a staple of 70 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 1: corn flakes, Raisin brand and puffed wheat at my house. 71 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 1: But you go over to other kids houses, they got 72 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: to those corn pops, lucky charms, that's loops and kidding me. 73 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 1: Those are the only times that I would have a 74 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 1: cereal seconds and then you drink the multicolored milk yes, 75 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 1: and be like God, this rules. Well, so we we 76 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:34,479 Speaker 1: do have a point. There is more to this podcast 77 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:36,479 Speaker 1: than just us telling stories, although I don't think there 78 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 1: should be. Well, I mean, we're making the point that 79 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 1: sleepovers are a pretty they're pretty big milestones in childhood socialization, 80 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 1: at least in the US, and I would stay in 81 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:52,159 Speaker 1: Canada as well. It's a very uh, USA centric kind 82 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 1: of phenomenon that I didn't realize. I didn't realize that either. Um, 83 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 1: but yeah, it is definitely an essential part of childhood. 84 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 1: And this according to pediatrician Perry Class, who was quoted 85 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 1: in the New York Times back in February, who said 86 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:10,280 Speaker 1: that it's definitely essential for both boys and girls. And 87 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:13,719 Speaker 1: dr Class quotes Paula Fass, who is a history professor 88 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 1: at u C. Berkeley, who said that sleepovers are a 89 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 1: phenomenon of the suburbs and took off in the fifties 90 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 1: and sixties, and by the eighties they had become a 91 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:25,720 Speaker 1: right not a privilege. Well yeah, and then with the 92 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 1: eighties it also became well, even going back to the 93 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:33,159 Speaker 1: fifties and sixties, it was summer parties were often a 94 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 1: theme in like teen teeny bop movies, Sandrad d pillow fights, 95 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:44,280 Speaker 1: what not. But of course sleepovers, if you are a parent, 96 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:49,600 Speaker 1: are not necessarily just the prospect of gorging on pizza 97 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 1: and pillow fights. There are also issues that come up, 98 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:55,719 Speaker 1: like a separation anxiety, the whole thing you know that 99 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:58,600 Speaker 1: you were talking about Caroline, of sleeping in a strange place, 100 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 1: playing by another family, these rules, bullying, bed, wedding, Um, 101 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:06,359 Speaker 1: this can be maybe there might be a lot of 102 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 1: fear in it for more for the parent than for 103 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 1: the child of sleeping in an unknown place for the 104 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 1: first time. Yeah, and you should probably if your child 105 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 1: is one who might have anxiety issues or sleep issues 106 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:23,600 Speaker 1: or anything, you probably should warn the hosting parents because 107 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: you know, you don't want your kid to go wake 108 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 1: the parents up in the middle of the night or 109 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 1: have a big to do like oh, I don't know 110 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: when the child has to call her mommy to come 111 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 1: get her um and they stay. In this New York 112 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 1: Times article that especially you should warn the parents, especially 113 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 1: if your kid has night terrors or sleepwalks, because these 114 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 1: things are more likely to happen in strange environments or 115 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:47,280 Speaker 1: when the kid is sleep deprived, So you know, night 116 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 1: terrors that could be terrifying for the hosting parents and 117 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 1: the children in the room as well. Oh do you 118 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 1: speak from experience? No, my friend, my friend, a couple 119 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 1: of friends actually have night terrors still and it is terrifying. 120 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I can. I can imagine we should do 121 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 1: an episode on night terrors. Now. While it would be 122 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 1: so much fun for us to continue on with the 123 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 1: podcast and just talk share sleepover and slumber party stories, 124 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 1: because there are so many. Uh, let's actually be more 125 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 1: practical about this and talk about from a parental perspective 126 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 1: of how to tackle a sleepover. The Chicago Tribune actually 127 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: published entire guide to sleepovers because they can be especially 128 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 1: if the kids are a little bit younger. If there 129 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 1: is still in that age range, um, maybe eight, when 130 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 1: sleepovers might be a new thing. If you're a parent 131 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 1: and you're hosting a sleepover, it's actually a decent amount 132 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 1: of work. And the first question, obviously you've got to 133 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 1: ask is is your child ready to play host? Yeah? Well, 134 00:07:57,120 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 1: to play host or to go away someone's smelly house, 135 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 1: because you might know that your child is not emotionally 136 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 1: or anxiety wise ready to go to somebody else's house 137 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 1: and sleep in a sleeping bag on the floor next 138 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 1: to the fire poker. Um, But your child might be adamant, 139 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 1: you know, like no, I'm ready, I want to go 140 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 1: play with the other kids. Um. A lot of recommendations 141 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 1: online have to do with developing fun sounding alternatives like 142 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 1: why don't you go to your cousin Jimmy's house instead? 143 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 1: It's more of a low pressure environment. Yeah, it's often 144 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:33,320 Speaker 1: recommended testing out the sleeping away from home in a 145 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:37,079 Speaker 1: family environment, going over to Grandma and Grandpa's house, going 146 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 1: over to a cousin, or having a cousin over, so 147 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 1: it's a little bit of a safer environment. And the 148 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 1: age that is often sided is eight to nine years old. Um. 149 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 1: And then the question is too of how many guests 150 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 1: do you have at a sleepover, because I mean I 151 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 1: remember going to the big ones and they could get 152 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 1: massively out of hand because you always have a couple 153 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 1: of troublemakers and then it just the trouble just spread 154 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: and then like just like in The Lord of the Flies, 155 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:09,080 Speaker 1: I mean, you start to get like a leader and 156 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 1: then groups splinter and the next thing you know, you're 157 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 1: like fighting with sticks on a beach. It's crazy. And 158 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 1: next thing you know, you lose a tooth. What I 159 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 1: lose the tooth? Yeah. The Chicago Tribune and The Guardian 160 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 1: both have some recommendations, and I had never really I 161 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 1: guess I never knew this. I never really thought about 162 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 1: how many children you should have, just not the whole class, 163 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 1: I guess. But Chicago Tribune recommends that the younger the kid, 164 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:35,479 Speaker 1: the smaller the group. That makes sense, it's less overwhelming. 165 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 1: The Guardian, on the other hand, gets a little more 166 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 1: specific and says that for a slumber party, you want 167 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 1: to invite the same number of guests as your child's age, 168 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 1: whereas for a sleepover the number is half that I've 169 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:49,560 Speaker 1: never heard of that I don't I don't know what 170 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:53,679 Speaker 1: to tell you. I say, you know, invite what seems manageable. Um. 171 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 1: And also don't invite kids that you don't know. Well, 172 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 1: you know, you don't have to invite everybody to the 173 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:04,440 Speaker 1: sleep because again, with these kinds of environments you a 174 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 1: child has to get along with the the family rules 175 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 1: in place. Um. I remember that was that was one 176 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 1: of the toughest negotiations of sleepovers and slumber parties was 177 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 1: having to figure out the family dynamics like you can't 178 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 1: go in the room with the white sofa yea, or 179 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 1: or if you have free reign to do anything? You know, 180 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:26,200 Speaker 1: if there was if I went over to a friend's 181 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:30,200 Speaker 1: house who had a fewer parental restrictions in my home 182 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 1: might have had, it would take me a little while 183 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 1: to be like, oh, oh, I can do this. I 184 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 1: can't eat all this cereal. Excellent, We'll give me all 185 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:42,679 Speaker 1: the cereal I want. Um. They do recommend uh fighting 186 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 1: off boredom because I don't know, a gang of board 187 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 1: children sounds terrifying to me. So you have to decide 188 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:49,679 Speaker 1: do you want planned events and group activities or do 189 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:51,079 Speaker 1: you just want to tell them that they have to 190 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 1: entertain themselves. Are you just gonna like lock them in 191 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 1: the playroom and just hope for the best. I don't know. 192 00:10:56,840 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 1: That all sounds scary to me. Uh. There's also ideas 193 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 1: about being careful to avoid hurt feelings, because yeah, that 194 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:08,439 Speaker 1: it can happen a lot of times when you take 195 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 1: a group of kids, you get them kind of tired 196 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 1: and and also sped up on sugar that someone's going 197 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 1: to start crying. Um, and you set a rule at 198 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:22,679 Speaker 1: the beginning not to exclude anybody. Also for older kids, 199 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:27,440 Speaker 1: no cellular telephones because then you might text people about 200 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 1: other people, and there could be texting behind backs and whatnot. Yeah, 201 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 1: and that's so weird. That was certainly not um a 202 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 1: rule when yeah, well we did. We did have phone 203 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 1: issues at slumber parties or sleepovers that I had, Like 204 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:43,319 Speaker 1: you know, where you do the thing where it's the 205 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:45,560 Speaker 1: three way call and the other person doesn't know the 206 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: other person's listening. Oh yeah, those are the mean games 207 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 1: you played the mean game? No, I was just well, 208 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 1: it was never. It was never calling somebody and finding 209 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 1: out what somebody thought. It was usually like a boy like, hey, Nathan, 210 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 1: you know so and so has a cry shown you. 211 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:06,559 Speaker 1: What do you think he's like? And then giggling and 212 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 1: hang up yeah or the other No, the no crank 213 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 1: call policy. But what about the issue of speaking of 214 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:19,199 Speaker 1: calling the boys if you were at a girl's slumber party. 215 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 1: What about the issue of co ed sleepovers? Because this 216 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 1: is something that has come up. It was covered recently 217 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 1: in the New York Times, and they have also been 218 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 1: other articles and considerations about coed sleepovers because especially for 219 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 1: the um, you know, kids in their early teen years, 220 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 1: they want to be able to have boys and girls 221 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 1: stay the night together, to which most parents would probably 222 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 1: be like no or no, no, definitely not. Uh. Actually 223 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 1: went to a I wouldn't call it a slumber party. 224 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 1: It was like the safe house because I think it 225 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:02,320 Speaker 1: was after homecoming and um, my senior year of high school. 226 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 1: This family who had a farm in Marietta invited all 227 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 1: of the kids back because it was like they kind 228 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 1: of had the wink hush hush attitude of like, well, 229 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:15,559 Speaker 1: you're probably gonna sneak alcohol, and we'd rather you all 230 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 1: be in the same place, roaming free on a farm 231 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 1: than trying to drive somewhere. Well that's so, but that's 232 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 1: different than like actually hosting a sleepover. Yeah all, yeah, 233 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 1: there was, there was co ed sleeping, that's for sure. 234 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 1: Um So anyway, moving on, but that's a whole But 235 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 1: that's a whole fear with these cod sleepovers is that naturally, 236 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 1: at some point something's gonna happen. Are you a terrible 237 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 1: parent if you if you are down with doing this, well, 238 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 1: I guess it depends on what country you're in. Frankly, 239 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 1: because Amy Shelleh, who's the sociology professor at UMAs Amherst, 240 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 1: did a study of teen sex and family life in 241 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 1: the US and the Netherlands, and surprise, surprise, there is uh, 242 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 1: there's a lot of differences. Um She found that here 243 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 1: teens are helpless victims beset by raging hormones. That's our 244 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 1: perception of our teens. We have to keep them safe 245 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 1: from themselves. In the Netherlands, parents interviewed regard teens more 246 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 1: as capable of falling in love and of reasonably assessing 247 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 1: their own readiness for sex. I I haven't a thing 248 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 1: that kind of falls somewhere in between maybe, but she 249 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 1: said she said in talking to all these parents in 250 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 1: the Netherlands that normalizing ideas about teenage sex actually allows 251 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 1: parents to exert more control because it kind of opens 252 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 1: the way for dialogue. Well, yeah, and this is one 253 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 1: of the context of allowing like a code sleepover in 254 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 1: terms of one like a like like my definition of 255 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 1: a sleepover versus a slumber party, like an adult an 256 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 1: adult sleepover rather than like having a group of friends. 257 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 1: Which education dot Com talked to psychologists and parenting author 258 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 1: Linda Sona about this and because she was saying that 259 00:14:56,600 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 1: more parents are are having to deal with these are 260 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 1: us for co ed slummer parties and um. She says 261 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 1: that many teens have deep platonic friendships with members of 262 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 1: the opposite sex and honestly might just want to hang out, 263 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 1: but at some point, but they often involve sexual activity, 264 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 1: whether planned or not. But if you are a parent 265 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 1: and you decide that that is okay, you obviously need 266 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 1: to talk to the parents of the other kids to 267 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 1: make sure that they know what's going on, be clear 268 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 1: about rules, provide separate sleeping areas and set a party perimeter, 269 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 1: essentially like once you're in the house, you're not going 270 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 1: to leave the house. Personally, it sounds like a giant 271 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 1: trying to facilitate a a completely PG teenage co ed sleepover. 272 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 1: But it can be done, I'm sure. But maybe a 273 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 1: life would be just easier for parents with this whole 274 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 1: sleepover thing if it wasn't such an ingrained part of 275 00:15:56,680 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 1: American culture. Because I did not know that it was 276 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 1: so US specific, and didn't either. I just figured it 277 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 1: was a rite of passage for all children the world 278 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 1: over has a global slumber parties. That sounds really fun. 279 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 1: That's something that should happen on the internet. The Internet. 280 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 1: Um yeah. Carmen Yuri in The New Jersey Star Ledger, 281 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 1: wrote a column about her attitude about sleepovers, both when 282 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 1: she was a child and now when she's a mom 283 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 1: to daughters. Because a lot of people argue that it 284 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 1: is a rite of passage, it's very common, no big deal. 285 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 1: It can be a bonding tool for kids and their friends. 286 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 1: She disagrees she was not allowed to sleep over at 287 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 1: friends houses as a child, and his instituted the same 288 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 1: rule for her daughter and her reasoning. I find it 289 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 1: a little hard to get behind other than there are 290 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 1: such cultural differences. She said that because she perceived these 291 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 1: slumber parties to be so cool and so normal, I 292 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 1: wanted to do him. Um, her Cuban mother was like, no, 293 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 1: I'm not a you do this. Why would I let 294 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 1: you go sleep away at some stranger's house? And so 295 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 1: she ends up bullying her mom into letting her go 296 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:10,439 Speaker 1: on the slumber party and says she felt scarred for 297 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:12,440 Speaker 1: the rest of her life. That she made her mom cry. 298 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 1: That just sounds well, yeah, well so all because of that, 299 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 1: because of her experience, She's not gonna let her kids 300 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 1: do it, she says. The way I see it, my 301 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 1: kids may miss out on a little fun at sleepovers, 302 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 1: but they won't be permanently scarred in the future like me. 303 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 1: They may sympathize with their mother. Well, we should point 304 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:33,119 Speaker 1: out that that her mom or keeping mom, did allow 305 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 1: her to have friends sleep over at her house. It 306 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 1: just wasn't like culturally, it did not make sense that 307 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:44,680 Speaker 1: she would need to sleep somewhere else. It just seemed 308 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 1: very foreign to them. And there were um some other 309 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 1: like parenting blogs that I ran across as while talking 310 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 1: about Um. In some Muslim families, sleepovers are a no go, 311 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:01,439 Speaker 1: and also Amy Chiwa, who wrote the Battle Hymn of 312 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:05,400 Speaker 1: the Tiger Mother that got so much attention a couple 313 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:07,239 Speaker 1: of years ago. Um. One of the things that she 314 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:10,719 Speaker 1: talks about and all the strict rules that she imposes 315 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 1: on her two daughters was that she refused to let 316 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 1: them ever participate in sleepovers. Never ever, Um and uh 317 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 1: Gil Sutherland in the Guardian, and she grumbles that the 318 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:28,399 Speaker 1: slumber party has its origin in quote that other great 319 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 1: American tradition, the summer camp. And she goes on and 320 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 1: on talking about like all these things that you now 321 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:36,959 Speaker 1: have to do because kids think it's cool to have 322 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:41,679 Speaker 1: these weird slumber parties, and so you have to, you know, 323 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:44,479 Speaker 1: buy pizza and make a mess and deal with what 324 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 1: are they called wakeovers? Essentially, like kids never get enough 325 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:50,359 Speaker 1: sleep if they have a sleepover, go to a slumber party. 326 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 1: So you need to be prepared as a parent to 327 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 1: deal with your junk food bloated, sleep deprived child. They 328 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:02,120 Speaker 1: say that who will probably grumpy from a wakeover? Yeah, 329 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 1: I mean I'm pretty grumpy one I don't get sleep. 330 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 1: She also recommended food in boxes, like that's a cool 331 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 1: thing for kids. I yeah, I would. I still like 332 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 1: food in boxes and sleeping bag boxed food. UM. I 333 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 1: do think we would be remiss not to mention a 334 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 1: little bit of slumber party pop culture history, something that 335 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 1: Kristen and I found that is amazing in the horrific 336 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 1: sense of the word. Um. In nineteen Mattel released Slumber 337 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 1: Party Barbie. Now, what what could be wrong with slumber 338 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 1: Party Barbie? She's so cute, She's got slippers, right, that's great? Yeah, 339 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 1: Well maybe it's because she comes with a scale that 340 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:44,160 Speaker 1: reads a hundred and ten pounds and a book titled 341 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 1: how to Lose Weight? Can you tell me the sole 342 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 1: contents of the Barbie book how to Lose Weight, don't eat, 343 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 1: which defeats the entire purpose of going to a slumber party? 344 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 1: I know, boxed foods? Yeah? What are you to do 345 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 1: with all that boxed food? Uh? Yeah? Speaking of Barbie, 346 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 1: there was some analysis on uh kind of how Barbie 347 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 1: intersected with American culture and they talked about how, uh 348 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:15,440 Speaker 1: it's symbolized the slumber party popularity. Um. When not only 349 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:18,719 Speaker 1: did they release that nineteen sixty five Slumber party Barbie. 350 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 1: But also in the original fashion booklet from uh it 351 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 1: featured Barbie dressed up in cute NightWare. So even back 352 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 1: in the late fifties, slumber parties, all the rage, all rage, 353 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:37,679 Speaker 1: all the kids are doing it. Yeah, hopefully people in 354 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 1: the fifties and sixties eight though. That's true. Yes, But 355 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:44,200 Speaker 1: then also with games, the things we haven't been able 356 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 1: to talk about with sleepovers, we could make this like 357 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:49,119 Speaker 1: an eight part series really, because there are things like 358 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:51,879 Speaker 1: Luigi board, the whole light is a feather, stiff as 359 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:54,920 Speaker 1: a board. Truth or Dare I was always I'm still 360 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 1: a truth or dareweenie because I'm like, well, I don't 361 00:20:57,760 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 1: want to really tell you the truth about something, but 362 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 1: I have to. I don't want to go like run 363 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:03,679 Speaker 1: naked through the sprinkler in the backyard at night at 364 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 1: the neighbor's house, you know, like I was. I was 365 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:07,440 Speaker 1: kind of a pansy about that. Yeah, that was when 366 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 1: I saw My first mooning was during a slumber party. 367 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:13,200 Speaker 1: True through day. I was like, Wow, that's your that's 368 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 1: the butt, that's your bottom. And then of course there 369 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:19,160 Speaker 1: are the pranks, your friends fall asleep. You don't want 370 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:20,439 Speaker 1: to be the first one to sleep because you might 371 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 1: end up with shaving cream on your face, or you 372 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:25,919 Speaker 1: might attempt to get your friends to peat themselves by 373 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 1: putting your hands in warm water. And then yeah, those 374 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 1: like a whole bullying games where I don't know that 375 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:33,879 Speaker 1: there's a name for it, but it's where you have 376 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:36,639 Speaker 1: like one friend hide under the bed so they the 377 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 1: other person thinks that she's gone, and then you're like, 378 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 1: what do you think about, Caroline? And then she gives 379 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:48,640 Speaker 1: a glowing report and you stick out two thumbs way 380 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:52,119 Speaker 1: up from out from under the bed. Um. Yeah. Also, 381 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:55,400 Speaker 1: so Girlhood in America, because I do feel like slumber 382 00:21:55,400 --> 00:22:00,119 Speaker 1: parties especially are a little more associated with girlhood then 383 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,920 Speaker 1: boyhood of all. And I know boys have slumber parties 384 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 1: and and all of that. But according to the book 385 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 1: Girlhood in America, they say the research shows that even 386 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:13,680 Speaker 1: such cultural practices as slumber parties can be transformative, at 387 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 1: least for a night, because it is the first time 388 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 1: that you are completely away from uh parental authority. You 389 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 1: don't know teachers are around, It's just you and your 390 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 1: peers all night with a sugar rush. And yeah, and 391 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 1: you have to like work out all these kind of 392 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 1: like negotiations of being in a new space and you 393 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 1: have to watch what's that movie Wild Hearts Can't Be Broken? Yep, 394 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 1: yep yep. Or if you're like me, you would go 395 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:44,640 Speaker 1: over to your friend's house and she would just pull 396 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 1: out one of her mom's uh tapes video cassettes from 397 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:52,399 Speaker 1: the shelf and it would be Silence of the Lambs. God, 398 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 1: is it any wonder? But I hate the slumber parties, man, Yeah, 399 00:22:58,000 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 1: I do feel like there's a lot of a lot 400 00:22:59,920 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 1: of boundary testing that ends up happening at slumber parties 401 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,479 Speaker 1: because all of a sudden, you're all there together and 402 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:11,879 Speaker 1: you can get into the hoots and hijink skin ensue. So, uh, 403 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 1: that's what we got for sleepovers and slumber parties, essentially 404 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 1: a lot of fun reminiscing. Yeah, now I want to 405 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:21,919 Speaker 1: hear your slumber party stories. Parents out there? Is the 406 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 1: slumber party something that you fear because you know, maybe 407 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 1: your kids not ready? What? What are the uh? Is 408 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 1: it weird sending your child off for the first time 409 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:37,639 Speaker 1: to a sleepover or hosting a sleepover? You stay sane 410 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,440 Speaker 1: when you have like ten or fifteen or twenty kids 411 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 1: in your house? Probably wine lots of it, I would 412 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:47,680 Speaker 1: assume um. And also, yeah, folks out there any slumber 413 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 1: party stories. Caroline and I have shared ours, We would 414 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:52,399 Speaker 1: like to hear yours, and you can send them to 415 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 1: us at Mom's Stuff at Discovery dot com. And we 416 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:59,399 Speaker 1: got a couple of letters here to share for you 417 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 1: as well. This one comes from Katie and she wrote 418 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 1: in a little while ago about our episode about man 419 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,679 Speaker 1: flu and whether or not man flu is real And 420 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:14,399 Speaker 1: for those who have not listened to the episode on 421 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:18,119 Speaker 1: man flu, a man flucis notion that when men get 422 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 1: colds they totally uh dramatize their symptoms and make a 423 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:27,919 Speaker 1: big to do about it, whereas women are super tough 424 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 1: when we get sick. So Katie writes, I do believe 425 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,879 Speaker 1: that there is probably a connection between masculinity and the 426 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,159 Speaker 1: man flu, but I did not think it has anything 427 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 1: to do with the male sex. I'm really only speaking 428 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:42,879 Speaker 1: from personal experience, but I have noticed a definite pattern. 429 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 1: All of the women I've dated have been very masculine 430 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 1: in some way, to have been very butch in appearance 431 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:51,359 Speaker 1: but very gender neutral and behavior. They both want to 432 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 1: have children someday and they would like to carry a 433 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 1: child if possible. One was very feminine in appearance, but 434 00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:00,159 Speaker 1: very typically masculine in personality. She was a loy or 435 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 1: who's very focused on career and monetary goals and cringes 436 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,679 Speaker 1: at the thought of babies. All three would describe themselves 437 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:09,120 Speaker 1: as more masculine than feminine. All three suffer from horrendous 438 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 1: man flues. Once a year. For many years, I would 439 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:16,399 Speaker 1: get very bad bronchitis, and every time I would keep 440 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 1: chugging along stubbornly until I ended up at the doctor 441 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,400 Speaker 1: with a hundred and four degree fever hallucinating from lack 442 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 1: of oxygen to my brain. These three women would get 443 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 1: the sniffles, and this apparently signaled armageddon. I try to 444 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,639 Speaker 1: respect that it truly does feel awful for them, but 445 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 1: the whining gets very old. So there's a fun observation 446 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 1: from Katie. All Right, this is an interesting email from 447 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:42,359 Speaker 1: Israel about our Smell podcast. He says, as a blind guy, 448 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 1: I've always been asked all kinds of questions. Is you're 449 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 1: hearing any better? Can you feel things better than most people? 450 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:50,359 Speaker 1: Is your sense of smell like that of a shark? 451 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:54,400 Speaker 1: And that's a reference. I don't get the sharks smell. Yeah, man, 452 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 1: sharks can smell blood from a mile away. Okay, alright, then, okay, 453 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 1: glad I was confirmed for me. I never okay anyway, yeah, 454 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,120 Speaker 1: no kidding. Someone actually asked me that the shark thing, 455 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 1: and of course, since I have been gifted with an 456 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 1: amazing sense of humor, I responded, yes, absolutely, I could. 457 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,879 Speaker 1: I could smell you coming a mile away. Immediately this 458 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 1: person took off running, came back, and was literally bathed 459 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 1: in perfume. I found this absolutely hysterical. Sense. Of course, 460 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:23,440 Speaker 1: I was exaggerating with my mile away comment, having said 461 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 1: that I do tend to be more sensitive to smells, 462 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:27,679 Speaker 1: and although I don't pick them up a mile away, 463 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 1: I do tend to notice things that most other people 464 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 1: would just ignore. Listening to your podcast on smells just 465 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,119 Speaker 1: made me wonder if, in fact, there is any science 466 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:38,360 Speaker 1: linked to lack of sight and how strong my senses 467 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:40,919 Speaker 1: may or may not be. I've always dismissed this and 468 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,440 Speaker 1: simply attributed it to the fact that since I can't see, 469 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 1: my brain just tends to pay more attention to the 470 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:49,639 Speaker 1: senses that do work. And then he adds, and just 471 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:53,159 Speaker 1: in case you might be wondering, no, I don't smell. 472 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 1: I would know, so, thank you Israel, And now I 473 00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,680 Speaker 1: know that sharks have a good sense of smell. And Caroline, 474 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 1: iologize if that came across in my tone as shark shaming. 475 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 1: You did not mean to. But also there was one 476 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 1: bit in this letter, the man Food letter from Katie 477 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,879 Speaker 1: that was addressed to you really that I didn't get to. 478 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:17,399 Speaker 1: So Caroline, here you go, she says, Caroline, in my house, 479 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 1: we share our beer with one of the cats. I 480 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:23,920 Speaker 1: think this comes from, uh something. There was an episode 481 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:29,439 Speaker 1: we were talking about getting saliva from pets. Yeah, something 482 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:31,879 Speaker 1: about you could get sick, and I was really grossed 483 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 1: out about maybe letting your pets lick you. Yeah, it 484 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:36,920 Speaker 1: was something some some aversion to pets. I mean, I 485 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 1: am grossed out about letting pets lick you. But well, 486 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 1: listen to this. In Katie's house, she says, we share 487 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 1: a beer with one of the cats. The way I 488 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 1: see it, their germs are everywhere, whether I knew it 489 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 1: or not, I'm sure I eat much worse by accident 490 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 1: every day, and it's just so much fun to watch 491 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 1: the cat drink beer before you get worried. She doesn't 492 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 1: get much and every vet we have ever told about 493 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,880 Speaker 1: it says something along the lines of cool, my cat 494 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:03,880 Speaker 1: isn't nearly that awesome, So double thanks to Katie. I'm 495 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 1: learning all sorts of things today for that. And now 496 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:09,879 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go look up videos of cats drinking beer responsibly. 497 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 1: So in the meantime, if you've got letters to send 498 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 1: our way, mom Stuff at Discovery dot com is our 499 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,639 Speaker 1: email address. You can also find us on Facebook and 500 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:22,200 Speaker 1: follow us on Twitter at mom Stuff Podcast, and we'd 501 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 1: love for you to head over to our blog as 502 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 1: well on Tumbler. It's stuff I've Never told You dot 503 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 1: tumbler dot com. 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