1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Welcome to the program. It's our one on 3 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 1: this Tuesday, Dan and the Danets, Dan Patrick's show, The 4 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: Great Patrick Ewing. We'll talk about the Jordan documentary as 5 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: painful as it still is for him in about a 6 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: half hour from now. Also check in with brooks Kepka, 7 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 1: great golfer, four time major winner. Mike Floyo from Pro 8 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 1: Football Talk will join us a little bit later on. 9 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: We talk about the release of the NFL schedule, and 10 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 1: it will happen on Thursday night. It's going to be 11 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:35,160 Speaker 1: a three hour process. NFL Network and ESPN will air 12 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 1: the release of the NFL schedule. And aside from everything 13 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:42,559 Speaker 1: involved that we're doing during this coronavirus, it's pretty amazing 14 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 1: that the league has made this into a TV show. 15 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 1: They're the Kings of turning something into something big. That 16 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:52,840 Speaker 1: draft is monstrous. Those ratings were unbelievable. The scouting combine 17 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 1: all over TV networks. They ran free agency specials, there's 18 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 1: path to the draft, pretty much anything that you can 19 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 1: do with football, they try to take advantage of it. 20 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:07,279 Speaker 1: What's next rookie Mini Camp round up or franchise tender, 21 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 1: Friday Owners meetings unplugged. Really, it's just an excuse for 22 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 1: everybody to talk football, and that's what we're doing right now, 23 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 1: talking football, which is great. But it's funny that the 24 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 1: NFL and every other league is used to going about 25 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 1: its business without trying to turn it into Programming's just 26 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 1: different media landscape now. The differences are accentuated because the 27 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 1: absence of live sports. So don't expect the trend to 28 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: stop anytime soon. If anything, it's going to be even larger. 29 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 1: The NFL is going to have a big night on 30 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 1: Thursday night. They had some big nights with the NFL Draft, 31 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 1: the Combine, and now with the draft or the schedule 32 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 1: release party. We already know what the matchups are going 33 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 1: to be, but we're going to treat it as if 34 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 1: we're walking down on Christmas morning and we don't know 35 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 1: what's in the gift. We don't know what's in the present. 36 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 1: It's wrapped up. Now. We have strength of schedule coming out. 37 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 1: Now the team with the easiest I know, the Colts 38 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: have the easiest schedule coming up. Then it's Tennessee. By 39 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 1: the way, the over under for the Colts and Titans 40 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:14,519 Speaker 1: playing in the same division eight and a half. Baltimore 41 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 1: third easiest schedule. They have eleven and a half wind total. 42 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 1: Chicago's up there, Cleveland's up there, the Chargers, the Lions, 43 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 1: the Chiefs, Pittsburgh and Dallas. Those are the ten easiest 44 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:34,359 Speaker 1: schedules coming out. Also, I saw there's an analytics person 45 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 1: at the Mothership who was looking at how this schedule 46 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:41,519 Speaker 1: is going to predict who's going to do well this year. 47 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:45,519 Speaker 1: Dallas is going to be a good Denver was a 48 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 1: surprise to make the playoffs. The Colts, they'll win the 49 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:51,959 Speaker 1: AFC South. This is just some of the surprises here 50 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 1: of what we're projecting here. Once we know that what 51 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: the schedule is, who you're going to be facing, and 52 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 1: now we look at wind total projections there what jumped 53 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 1: out at you, McLevin well. Also he tried to include rookies. 54 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 1: It's the Cowboys really high up. They'd be the three 55 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 1: seat in the NFC, with the Saints and the Niners 56 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 1: being ahead of them. You know, I kind of agree. 57 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 1: I mean, maybe that's because you been so kind of 58 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: not excited about the Cowboys, but it looks good on paper. 59 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:23,360 Speaker 1: And this person, the analytics person is who said, he 60 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 1: tries to go through it by the numbers. Okay, so 61 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:28,959 Speaker 1: by the numbers, these are the playoff teams. I believe 62 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 1: that he has McLevin. You got the Browns, Ravens, Broncos, 63 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 1: Cold Steelers, Buffalo Bills, Kans City Chiefs. That right, Yes, 64 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 1: I believe. So I'm checking it as you go along. Again. 65 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 1: It's a little confusing because he actually has decimal points 66 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 1: next to his wins, like eleven point four wins. So 67 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 1: it's tricky. The NFC has the Eagles, Niners, Seahawks, Cowboys, 68 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 1: the Buccaneers, Vikings, and the Saints. Yes, Paul, you know, 69 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 1: but you get that stat the other day about the 70 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 1: Cowboys outscoring their opponents by a hundred last year and 71 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 1: being eighty Here's another one. The Cowboys were the number 72 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 1: one team in the NFL in total yardage last year, 73 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 1: number one in the NFL six and points scored. They 74 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 1: were ninth in total defense, eleventh and point scored, and 75 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: they won eight games. That's an anomaly because you look back, 76 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 1: if you're top ten and two categories, you're usually at 77 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 1: ten win team plus there's going to be four teams 78 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 1: that surprise you and four teams that disappoint you. That's 79 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: usually how it works, and it feels like depending on 80 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:28,480 Speaker 1: what your schedule is, you're going to be you know, 81 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 1: you're kind of exchanging places here, and that happens every 82 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 1: single year because of strength of schedule. I wanted to 83 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 1: know strength of schedule last year and the end result 84 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 1: I got the Raiders had. Is this the toughest schedule? McLevin? 85 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 1: Last year? The Raiders had the toughest schedule. I'm still 86 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: trying to figure this out. STATSUS set US as chart. 87 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: I think that they had the toughest. Yes, okay, but 88 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:56,280 Speaker 1: double checking, well, let me go, Yeah, he sent me 89 00:04:56,320 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 1: a few numbers here. Yeah, I'm trying to figure this out. 90 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: Did Washington have the easiest schedule last year? Followed by 91 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 1: the Giants, Jets, Bengals, Rams, Patriots. Yeah, I'm not sure. 92 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 1: Let's hold and study this because it's very confusing. Okay, 93 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 1: but it seems by the way I notice that the 94 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,679 Speaker 1: strength of schedule, all the teams that played the Bengals 95 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 1: last year have the Yeah, the Bengals are screwing up 96 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 1: everyone's strength of schedule. He's able to buy two and fourteen, 97 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:26,280 Speaker 1: so if you have them on your schedule, you're projected 98 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:28,359 Speaker 1: to have an easy schedule this year, But how do 99 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 1: you know they're going to be that bad this year? 100 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 1: I know that it's interesting and it's fun to talk about, 101 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 1: but you know they're gonna double their win total, I 102 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 1: know with a rookie quarterback. But if the Bengals will 103 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:42,719 Speaker 1: be better, because they'll try to be better this year, 104 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 1: but that doesn't mean that you know that if you 105 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 1: start to look at strength of schedule, somebody's gonna be 106 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:50,840 Speaker 1: an outlier where you go, wow, where did that come from? 107 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 1: What were the Niners last year? Win total was what nine? Nine? Yeah? Yeah, 108 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:59,559 Speaker 1: nine but just not bad. But no one saw that coming. 109 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:03,840 Speaker 1: What were the Ravens were nine? Well, I think they 110 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 1: were under nine. I thought they were eight and a half. 111 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 1: We said, yeah, there's gonna be surprises here because they're 112 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 1: going to be players who are going to excite and 113 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:14,600 Speaker 1: exceed expectations. They're going to be players who disappoint. They'll 114 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 1: be teams, uh that that you were going to look 115 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:19,799 Speaker 1: at them and say, boy, they're playing in a bad division. 116 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,039 Speaker 1: You know. I look at the NFC South and you 117 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 1: got the Buccaneers and you got the Saints. I think 118 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 1: Atlanta is going to be better than they were last year. 119 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 1: And I don't know what Carolina is going to be. 120 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:33,479 Speaker 1: I look at the AFC South. Now he's got the 121 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:37,040 Speaker 1: Colts winning the division and you got the Texans. Are 122 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 1: they better? Are they about the same as last year? Jacksonville? Yeah, 123 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 1: Jacksonville is going to be worse, right? And then were 124 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:49,840 Speaker 1: you surprised to after Colts just edging the Titans. I 125 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 1: think the Colts that absolutely going to be a formidable team. Absolutely. 126 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 1: That's why I thought if Brady went there instead of 127 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 1: Philip Rivers, that's a team that could really challenge I 128 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 1: think the Kansas City Chiefs. But you know, with Philip 129 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 1: Rivers there, I mean maybe, I mean it's an upgrade 130 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: over Jacobe Broussette. I just thought Brady going there, then 131 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 1: it's an even bigger upgrade. The Buccaneers going into the playoffs, 132 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 1: the Browns in the playoffs, that's interesting. Yeah, point, I've 133 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 1: noticed this week a lot of people doubt on the 134 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 1: Jaguars even more than usual. I think they're the consensus 135 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 1: to have the number one pick next year. Yeah, but 136 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 1: it could be Washington. If I look at strength as 137 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 1: schedule here, Washington, they have over and under for four 138 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 1: and a half for Jacksonville. I think it's five and 139 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 1: a half with Washington, so it's really one game that 140 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 1: may hang in the balance. Maybe two games are going 141 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 1: to decide where Trevor Lawrence goes. I mean that, I 142 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 1: think it's going to be that close with a couple 143 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: of teams there. But Washington looks like they want to 144 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 1: win Jacksonville. I don't. I don't get the feeling, and 145 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 1: I understand why you don't want to. If you could 146 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 1: get Trevor Lawrence right now. If I could say to 147 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 1: Jacksonville and you're fans, hey, you're gonna have four wins 148 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 1: this year, but you're getting Trevor Lawrence, you'll all sign 149 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: up for that. The problem is if you have four 150 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 1: wins and you don't get Trevor Lawrence, and then then 151 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 1: you get Justin Fields, not the same as Trevor Lawrence. Yes, Paul, 152 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 1: if I'm Trevor Lawrence and either the Jaguars or the 153 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 1: Redskins have Number one pick, I stay at Clemson for 154 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 1: another year. It'd be much better tie, you can win 155 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 1: some games, get another ring. Well, Tua wanted to stay 156 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 1: at Alabama. I'm barely kidding the money will be there. 157 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 1: Zion wanted to stay at Duke. You know this program 158 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 1: brought to you by one eight hundred Flowers, the official 159 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 1: florist of Mother's Day. Make sure you take me up 160 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 1: on the offer limited delivery here, so it's important to 161 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 1: lock in your order today right now. One eight hundred 162 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 1: Flowers has beautiful Mother's Day gifts and bouquets. To order, 163 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 1: go to one eight hundred flowers dot com. You see 164 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: that radio icon entered the promo code. Patrick, Welcome to 165 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:58,680 Speaker 1: the program. You can get in touch bridy ways. You 166 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 1: can email, you can tweet, can dial this up. You 167 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 1: can watch on YouTube dot com slash with the Dan 168 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 1: Patrick Show, and you can listen on our three hundred 169 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 1: and sixty two radio affiliates around the country and the 170 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:11,319 Speaker 1: formidable Fox Sports radio line up. So Patrick Ewing will 171 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 1: join us coming up. I did talk to him yesterday 172 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 1: because Fritzie reached out to Patrick and then Patrick said, hey, 173 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 1: you got a second call me and I call him 174 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:24,559 Speaker 1: and he goes up, Hey, I I don't enjoy talking 175 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 1: about this stuff. You know I had to live it. 176 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 1: You guys got to enjoy it. And I said, look, 177 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:30,679 Speaker 1: if you don't want to do it. He goes, no, 178 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:32,680 Speaker 1: I'll do it. You're my guy. I'll do it for you. 179 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 1: But just so you know. And then I told him 180 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:38,839 Speaker 1: about Reggie Miller, Reggie's reaction after watching the first two episodes, 181 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:41,680 Speaker 1: and he said, why did Reggie watch? And I said, 182 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 1: why ask him to do that? And then he laughed. 183 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 1: He goes, this isn't fun for us. Just so you know, 184 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:50,559 Speaker 1: this isn't fun. You know, we had to live it, 185 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 1: and you know, and now I got to talk to 186 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:57,320 Speaker 1: my kids classroom on Tuesday morning. They want to ask 187 00:09:57,400 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 1: me about Michael Jordan. He goes, this isn't he said, 188 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 1: but I'll talk about it here. Yeah, bully, do you 189 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 1: think it's apples and orange? But do you think it's 190 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 1: a little bit like a guy like us? You got 191 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 1: the grade school bully who picked on you when you're 192 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 1: in grade school, and you go back for the reunion 193 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:14,319 Speaker 1: and you're still bothered by that bully. It's not like, oh, 194 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 1: let's forgive and forget. It's been twenty five years. Let's 195 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 1: all hang out and have a drink at the bar 196 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 1: at the reunion. That's the guy who picked on you 197 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 1: when you're younger, and you never let it go. I 198 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 1: know it's sports bullying, but Jordan was a sports version 199 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:28,959 Speaker 1: of a bully. He beat you and let you know afterwards, 200 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 1: and he still lets people know. And youing had to 201 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 1: work for him for years down in Charlotte. I'm sure 202 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:36,359 Speaker 1: he let him know all the time. Yeah, it's not cathartic. 203 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:38,560 Speaker 1: You know. Even Reggie when he was talking about this, 204 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 1: you could tell that he was pained by it. And 205 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 1: when I said what would you do if you saw 206 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 1: Jordan in a restaurant, he said, I'd either hug him 207 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 1: or punch him. It's real. That's what people have to understand. 208 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 1: We look at it with the novelty, and you look 209 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 1: at it at the entertainment value, are like, oh man, 210 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 1: that was so much fun boy you got to play 211 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:02,680 Speaker 1: against Jordan. Yeah, and they didn't like it, Yeah, Seton, 212 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: Well there was that there's one thing to just lose 213 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 1: to Jordan. But like you're saying, Jordan has that extra 214 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:10,840 Speaker 1: element and they show it in the last Dance. All 215 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 1: the time. It's Michael Jordan is in the garden for 216 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:16,199 Speaker 1: his last game at Madison Square Garden. He's playing the 217 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:18,320 Speaker 1: knicks and he's lacing up his sneakers and Patrick Ewing 218 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 1: comes into shake his hand. I don't know if it 219 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 1: was after the game or before the game, whichever, but 220 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 1: he Michael Jordan immediately before they even shake hands, says 221 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 1: something like, man, I haven't whipped somebody's ass like that 222 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 1: since eighty four. And you know that he's talking about 223 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 1: Georgetown and Patrick Ewing and it's like, damn, dude, like 224 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:36,959 Speaker 1: that was like twenty years ago, and you're still killing 225 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 1: me for that. That must be That would have driven 226 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 1: me crazy if I was one of those guys he 227 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 1: never forgets. Never mcloven, you got a pull question for 228 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:48,679 Speaker 1: me today. Okay, we always do this question, and it's 229 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 1: funny today. Of our guest less today, whose career would 230 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 1: you want? I'll give you Patrick Ewing, brooks Kepka great 231 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 1: career or Mike Floria lawyer turned NFL blogger but as 232 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 1: an awesome man cave in West Virginia. But serious question. 233 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 1: We were debating with you and coming on, if you 234 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:09,719 Speaker 1: could start your team with any center from nineteen eighty 235 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 1: four on, Let's say who is the guy you would 236 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 1: started your team? And we could ask Patrick the same 237 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 1: question as he if he goes with himself, you know 238 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 1: the choice is being Elijahan Robinson Ewing shack to start with. Now, 239 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 1: this brings up a really uncomfortable situation I had with 240 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 1: Patrick Ewing when we were in San Antonio with the 241 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 1: Mothership and we were covering the NBA Finals. And that's 242 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: when I sat first time I ever sat down with 243 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:34,719 Speaker 1: him and got to know Patrick Ewing. That's because of 244 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 1: Mark Jackson. Mark Jackson was one of the analysts for 245 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 1: the NBA Finals and we sit down. He didn't invite 246 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 1: me to dinner because Mark. I was with John Barry 247 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 1: and John was working on the broadcast with us, and 248 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 1: we saw Mark and we said, hey, you want to 249 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 1: go to dinner with us? He goes, no, I can't. 250 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 1: I got other plans. And I joked with him. I 251 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 1: thought he was kidding around with me. I said, come on, 252 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 1: let's go. We're gonna there's a great steakhouse. He goes, no, No, 253 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 1: I'm I got other plans. I said, wait, who are 254 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 1: you seeing behind my back? He goes Patrick, and I 255 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 1: thought he was saying my name and he goes I 256 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 1: said Anne. He goes no. Ewing. I said, you're going 257 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:19,560 Speaker 1: to dinner with Patrick? Ewing goes yeah, and he's not 258 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 1: big on the media. I said, you remember the media goes, 259 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 1: I know, but I am a player too. We're friends 260 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 1: from back in the you know, the Big East days. 261 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 1: I said, all right, fine, you go to your dinner 262 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:31,199 Speaker 1: with Patrick Ewing, John Barry and I take a stroll 263 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 1: in San Antonio. We stumble into the same steakhouse as 264 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:40,440 Speaker 1: Ewing and Mark Jackon. They're sitting there and John goes, 265 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go over and say hello to Patrick, and uh, 266 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 1: you know, I said, well maybe I should, you know, 267 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 1: stand back because Mark Jackson says, you know, Patrick doesn't 268 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 1: like the media. John goes over. Next thing I know, 269 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 1: John sitting down at the table, and I said, all right, whatever, 270 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:59,079 Speaker 1: I'm going over. I sit down. So we talked and 271 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 1: Patrick was, you know, he's a little not reticent, but 272 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 1: he was. He was quiet. And then Mark Jackson turns 273 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 1: to me and says, why don't you say it to 274 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 1: uh Patrick? I said, what's that? No, which center you 275 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 1: would take? Remember I ask you that question. I went, oh, 276 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 1: you gotta be kidding me. You're doing this to me, 277 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 1: all right? And then Mark Jackson goes to Patrick Ewing. 278 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 1: I asked him, I said, who would you take Elijah 279 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 1: on or you and Patrick goes, who did you say? 280 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 1: And I said, I'd take Elijah on and he laughed 281 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 1: and he thought it was the funniest thing, and he goes, 282 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 1: I probably would too. I probably would too. After that 283 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 1: see's parted. We stayed there for an hour and a 284 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 1: half and just talked, and he had a wonderful sense 285 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 1: you humor, had great stories. And I told him all 286 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 1: those times when I was at CNN and we would 287 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 1: cover the Big East Tournament, I'd go down to Georgetown. 288 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 1: You can never interview Patrick. I always interviewed John Thompson. 289 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 1: Told him all about that, and ever since then he 290 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 1: reaches out occasionally asked me how I'm doing health wise. 291 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 1: You know, We've had him in studio numerous times, had 292 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 1: him in San Antonio when we played outside. Paul was PAULI, 293 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 1: that's as close as I've seen you two tears or 294 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 1: being emotional in all seriousness. That's Conni a long time. Yeah, 295 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 1: that's the most excited I've ever had Ben to have 296 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 1: an institient guest in my show. I fell in love 297 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 1: with Pat Ewing and Georgetown when I was a youngster, 298 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 1: and to see him show up on a sett it's like, 299 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 1: I never thought that day would happen. There's certain athletes 300 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 1: we expect to have on or Adam Sandler, and but 301 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 1: when Pat Ewing walked in and he was so super 302 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 1: cool and told me stories and sent my shot into 303 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 1: the river, it was really cool. Yeah, Paully, I said, 304 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 1: what's wrong with you? Goes? I think you know he 305 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 1: was the guy. I mean, we all we love Georgetown. 306 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 1: Growing up, I had a Georgetown jacket, and every one 307 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 1: day he was the coolest. What other poll questions do 308 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 1: you have there, McLevin? I have an NFL one if 309 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 1: you want to do. I mean, here's a question. Do 310 00:15:57,480 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 1: the team to the top ten for strike the schedule 311 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 1: have a better chance of turning around now because they 312 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 1: have easy schedules? Like do we expect the Browns to 313 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 1: be good because they have one of the easiest schedules? Well, 314 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 1: I expect them to be good no matter what their 315 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 1: schedule is. The Bears, I think Nick Foles is going 316 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 1: to be the starting quarterback. I think with Nick Foles 317 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 1: you have a chance to be But I think they're 318 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 1: over unders, like six and a half something like that. 319 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 1: And so the Bears are they a five hundred team? 320 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 1: The Chargers got an easy schedule. You know, there's a 321 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 1: big question mark at quarterback with Tyrod Taylor and does 322 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 1: Justin Herbert become that starter? Eventually? The Lions better be 323 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 1: good because they're going to be jobs lost there. I 324 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 1: think they did well in the draft. The Steelers still 325 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 1: not sure about them with Ben coming back. Do you 326 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 1: take Cam Newton if you're the Steelers. I had a 327 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 1: conversation last night with the Sours and I said, hey, 328 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 1: that their backup quarterbacks aren't very good, and you know, 329 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 1: he said, oh, Duck Devlin and Mason Rudolf. I said, yeah, 330 00:16:56,720 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 1: they're not scaring anybody. What if Cam went there? And 331 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 1: he said, well, it would be an adjustment, I think 332 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:09,639 Speaker 1: for Cam. And I said, well, how would Ben take this? Really, 333 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 1: that's what it's all about. And he said, you know, 334 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 1: Ben is probably playing this year and that's it. That 335 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 1: would be my guest. Ben's gonna play one more year 336 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:19,680 Speaker 1: and then you have somebody coming in to replace him. 337 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:22,640 Speaker 1: And he said, you know the tricky part is when 338 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:26,359 Speaker 1: you leave, you don't necessarily want your team to be 339 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:30,200 Speaker 1: better when you leave, because then it's like, hey, glad 340 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 1: to get rid of Ben. We got Cam in here. 341 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:34,400 Speaker 1: Now we got an even better team. He said. With 342 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 1: Ben and his ego, it's always a little tricky. But 343 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 1: if Ben is playing at Ben's level and he's still 344 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 1: got his arm strength, you know, it's not like he's 345 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:45,640 Speaker 1: got mobility, but he has his arm strength, then they'll 346 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:48,399 Speaker 1: be fine. He goes. I thought that they were going 347 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:50,640 Speaker 1: to go after Hurts, or they would try to get 348 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 1: Teddy Britten. There were other players that I thought they 349 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 1: were going to bring in. And I said, well, would 350 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 1: you bring in Cam Newton if you were the Steelers? 351 00:17:56,840 --> 00:18:00,399 Speaker 1: And he said, yes, I would, because I can't trust 352 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:02,880 Speaker 1: Ben to be healthy the entire season. He's a guy 353 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 1: who takes hits and you've got to have a good 354 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 1: backup here. And I said, all right, Well, he said, 355 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 1: but I think Cam probably gets signed after training camp, 356 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 1: and maybe if somebody gets injured, that's probably because he 357 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:16,439 Speaker 1: wants to go in as a starter. And if he 358 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:18,879 Speaker 1: realizes nobody going to take him, would he take this 359 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 1: Steelers opportunity if it was there? So just some intel. Also, 360 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:24,919 Speaker 1: what I told you yesterday at the end of the 361 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:28,159 Speaker 1: show pertaining to college football, I'm going to bring that 362 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 1: up again after the Patrick Ewing interview just so you 363 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 1: get that information, because it's important information. This is being 364 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 1: discussed by the conferences behind the scenes. This is being 365 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 1: discussed of what the possibility will be for a college 366 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:45,359 Speaker 1: football season, and how the different conferences are going to 367 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 1: be affected by this, how scheduling is going to be 368 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 1: affected by this. Out of conference games are going to 369 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 1: be affected by this. So there's a lot there. I 370 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:55,120 Speaker 1: had it at the end of the show, but I'll 371 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:57,119 Speaker 1: bring it to your attension in about twenty minutes from now, 372 00:18:57,160 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 1: we'll take a break. The great Patrick Ewing will join 373 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 1: us and begrudgingly talk about the greatness of Michael Jordan. 374 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:05,920 Speaker 1: Twenty after the hour. This is the Dan Patrick Show. 375 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. 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Different position 395 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 1: a little later. Yeah, I don't want to bring this 396 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:08,680 Speaker 1: up to Penn. Well I can because maybe he'll he'll 397 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 1: remember that, and uh, how about after Patrick's on then 398 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 1: we can maybe broach the topic here. But we have 399 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 1: an NFL poll then, Okay, I'm just saying that so 400 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 1: you don't have to share that with Patrick. Oh I really, 401 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 1: I really have the center poll up on Dan Patrick 402 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 1: dot com. Oh you do exactly? What did you find 403 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 1: out about this strength of schedule? So the Bengals, Rams, 404 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 1: and Seahawks were supposed to have easy based on the 405 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:35,680 Speaker 1: preseason strength of schedule, but they ended up having three 406 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 1: of the hardest schedules of the season than the Raiders. 407 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 1: Packers and Jags were supposed to be hard schedules and 408 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:43,360 Speaker 1: ended up having three of the easiest ones. And that's 409 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:46,439 Speaker 1: the last year last year, right, to show how different 410 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 1: it is. The Packers particularly had what ended up being 411 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 1: a really easy schedule last year. I remember they ended 412 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:57,120 Speaker 1: up thirteen and three. This is based off expectations, right, 413 00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:01,360 Speaker 1: this is based off the two eighteen records. Okay, So 414 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 1: we're looking today at strike the schedules based on last 415 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 1: year's records, and as you pointed out, it never ends 416 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 1: up that way. It can. It ends up skewing in 417 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 1: a much different direction than we think because teams change 418 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:15,200 Speaker 1: so much. The teams that have the hardest schedule coming 419 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:19,400 Speaker 1: up this season, Atlanta has the toughest schedule. Then it's 420 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:26,159 Speaker 1: the Giants, Jets, Broncos in Carolina? Is that right, McLevin? Yes? Okay, 421 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 1: Then you have the Raiders, you have the Rams in there, 422 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 1: Washington and New Orleans. If I'm looking at this and 423 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 1: I'm just looking at the Trevor Lawrence sweepstakes, here, the 424 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 1: Giants and Jets are at six and a half, Washington's 425 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 1: at five and a half. Washington with that difficult schedule, 426 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:48,479 Speaker 1: could end up with, you know, maybe five wins, and 427 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:50,359 Speaker 1: they would be there'll certainly be in the thick of 428 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 1: the sweepstakes there for Trevor Lawrence. You know, you start 429 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:57,119 Speaker 1: to look at these other teams. You know, Cleveland's running 430 00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 1: out of time for excuses there. The Browns should be 431 00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 1: very good this year. I expect them to be a 432 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 1: playoff team. Tampa Bay. I don't look at them as 433 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:08,359 Speaker 1: ten or eleven wins, but I look at them as 434 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 1: a playoff team. But I thought that even if they 435 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:13,680 Speaker 1: didn't get Tom Brady, there will be one or two 436 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:16,920 Speaker 1: teams that we can look back on this conversation and go, 437 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 1: those were the two teams you're talking about, two teams 438 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:21,880 Speaker 1: that will move up and they will surprise us. Now 439 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:23,879 Speaker 1: that could mean they're a playoff team, but they end 440 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 1: up with thirteen wins, or you were projected to be 441 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 1: a playoff team and you fell out and you had 442 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:32,880 Speaker 1: seven wins on the season. Yeah, mclub, When you're talking 443 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:35,160 Speaker 1: about this, do you just not think about injury because 444 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:37,679 Speaker 1: it's too much of a variable. Well, you have to 445 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:39,920 Speaker 1: factor it in but you can't. You don't know where 446 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:42,880 Speaker 1: that injury is going to take place. Patrick Mahomes last year, 447 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 1: we thought his career might have been over. We thought 448 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 1: his season was over. If you just look at that, 449 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 1: it could have changed everything. That could have changed the 450 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 1: history or you know, the future of the NFL. If 451 00:22:56,520 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes ends up with a career ending injury, it 452 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:03,360 Speaker 1: Ken's City doesn't win the Super Bowl like it changes everything. 453 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:07,440 Speaker 1: It changes the next ten years in the NFL. I mean, 454 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 1: that's the magnitude of these injuries that happened, and then 455 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 1: you realize that it wasn't as serious as you thought. 456 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 1: He's Patrick Ewing, the Georgetown head coach, a Hall of famer, 457 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:20,400 Speaker 1: remember the Dream Team? And boy, he can't wait to 458 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 1: tell you all the great things about the Jordan documentary. Patrick, 459 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:26,680 Speaker 1: Where do we start talking about all the wonderful things 460 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 1: about Michael Jordan he loved. I had to live through that. 461 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 1: I had to live through him. You know, all the 462 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 1: battles that we had to go through. And now y'all 463 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:40,400 Speaker 1: have a documentary that I, you know, have to keep 464 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 1: in a rubbing it in my face? Are you watching? 465 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:48,639 Speaker 1: I watched some of it where you watch some you know. 466 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 1: I watched a little, then I shut it off and 467 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:52,439 Speaker 1: go through all the things. Like I said, you know, 468 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 1: I lived through it, so I don't need to watch. 469 00:23:55,920 --> 00:24:00,440 Speaker 1: I know he's great. Were you interviewed for it? Yes, 470 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:03,199 Speaker 1: that was? And what did they ask you about them? 471 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 1: They asked me a million questions, you know for I 472 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:11,200 Speaker 1: think they might have showed me on it a small 473 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 1: small piece of it, but I think that they interviewed 474 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:17,879 Speaker 1: me for about an hour. I think you're coming up. 475 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:19,640 Speaker 1: I think you and Reggie Miller are going to get 476 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 1: some airtime coming up. I I told you this yesterday 477 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 1: when I talked to Reggie a couple of weeks ago. 478 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 1: I gets still painful for him. He hated. He hated 479 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:30,440 Speaker 1: talking about it and the only reason why he watched 480 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 1: the documentaries because I said, hey, will you watch it 481 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 1: so we can talk about it. He said, it's no fun, 482 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:38,399 Speaker 1: he said, fun for you guys because you get to 483 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 1: watch him. Oh, Michael Jordan's so great. You know, it 484 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:45,400 Speaker 1: was painful for us, Oh, definitely. Um, you know, as 485 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:49,639 Speaker 1: as as fans, you know, people are you know of 486 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 1: and awe of him, but we're the ones that had 487 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 1: to battle him and every and you can't as as 488 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 1: a as a competitor, you can think of him, bess. 489 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:01,639 Speaker 1: You know this, Michael Jordan, one of the greatest players 490 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 1: to ever play the game. You're out there trying to 491 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,640 Speaker 1: kick his butt and you and your team are trying 492 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:10,200 Speaker 1: to do everything possible to try to uh to try 493 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 1: to beat that team. Is there, you know, I look back, 494 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 1: there's that clip where Mike's last trip to the garden 495 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 1: and is it after the game where he said something 496 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 1: about I haven't handed out this kind of beating since 497 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,119 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty four when he was talking about the title 498 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:30,880 Speaker 1: game with you in North Carolina Georgetown. So it wasn't 499 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 1: even that wasn't even a beating. We had an opportunity 500 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 1: to win, to win that game, we just you know, 501 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,920 Speaker 1: like every game, it tell about mistakes, and we made 502 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 1: a crucial mistake at the you know, the last possession, 503 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 1: turned the ball over and uh they seal the game. 504 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 1: But you know, that's just Michael. He's he's a great guy. 505 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 1: He's he's been he's a friend. But he's the biggest 506 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:58,119 Speaker 1: trash talker that I've ever met, both he and Bird. 507 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:01,399 Speaker 1: But when did he become a friend, Because you know, 508 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 1: the Bulls and Knicks. You guys had real battles. But 509 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 1: when did you When did you become a friend of Jordan's. Well, 510 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 1: you know, I think we've been friends ever since we 511 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 1: met each other on our visit. On my visit to 512 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 1: North Carolina, he had already he had already committed. That 513 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 1: was the first time I met him, And you know, 514 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 1: we just developed a friendship since then. We we we 515 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:27,359 Speaker 1: played in the McDonald's game together, spent some time then 516 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 1: and then over the years, you know, our friendship Google. 517 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:33,359 Speaker 1: We both were represented by the same we had the 518 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 1: same agent, both Dean Smith and Coach Thomps or great friends. 519 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:42,159 Speaker 1: So I think all of those things, um, you know, 520 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 1: created gave us history. How close were you to going 521 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:52,400 Speaker 1: to North Carolina? You had to bring that up. Um, 522 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 1: you know I imagined that team. Uh you know, money, 523 00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 1: When I look back at it, you know, if if 524 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:02,160 Speaker 1: I had gone there, it would have been me, myself, 525 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:06,440 Speaker 1: Michael Worthy Perkins. That had been a hell of a 526 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 1: front line. But you know, I made the right decision. 527 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 1: I went there, I didn't like it as much as 528 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 1: I thought I would have, so I chose to go else. 529 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,680 Speaker 1: And you know, it's funny because Dean Smith told me, 530 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:20,919 Speaker 1: if you're not coming, if you're not gonna come to 531 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 1: North Carolina, you should go to Georgetown. So I listened 532 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:27,359 Speaker 1: to him. Yeah, good advice. There we're talking to Patrick Hughing, 533 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,200 Speaker 1: the Hall of Famer, Georgetown's head coach, member of the 534 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 1: Dream Team. Do you know why Isaiah wasn't on the 535 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 1: Dream Team? No? I don't, but you might. Everybody has. 536 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 1: Everybody speculates, you know, everybody you know has one thought 537 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:50,640 Speaker 1: or another. You know, I didn't worry about it Isaiah. 538 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 1: He was a great player and possibly should have been 539 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 1: on the team. But you know, I don't get into 540 00:27:56,119 --> 00:28:00,440 Speaker 1: all that positive politics. I always what I heard, and 541 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,200 Speaker 1: these are reliable people that I heard it from, is that, 542 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:06,919 Speaker 1: you know, Michael wanted an atmosphere that was fun. You 543 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,120 Speaker 1: knew you were gonna win, You knew you were gonna 544 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 1: win the gold medal. Michael and everybody they wanted to 545 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 1: have fun. Mike wanted to play golf and you know, 546 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:18,439 Speaker 1: play cards and be with his guys, and Isaiah was 547 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,680 Speaker 1: not part of that fraternity. You know that this wasn't 548 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 1: a basketball decision. I could have played point guard for you, Patrick. 549 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:29,159 Speaker 1: It this wasn't about Hey, if we have Isaiah, we're 550 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 1: gonna win by sixty seven over Angola. It was just 551 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:36,919 Speaker 1: I think it was about friends getting together and that 552 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,719 Speaker 1: was the feeling I always had. Well. To me, it 553 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:43,960 Speaker 1: was all about showing the world our dominance. We had 554 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 1: lost in the previous Olympics. Um. I remember we'd lost 555 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 1: to U to Brazil, and I remember I forgot the 556 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,720 Speaker 1: young man's name is, you know, yelling at the TV. 557 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 1: God bless America. So we we were the Seal. We 558 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 1: were the eight team that the America sent to go 559 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 1: kick butts and take names and bring and show the 560 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 1: world the dominance that we have it in terms of basketball. 561 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 1: And because of that, because of uh, you know, we 562 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 1: were like rock stars everywhere in the world. All those 563 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 1: guys are all those kids that were playing soccer, they 564 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 1: fell in love with basketball. You're not touching the Iceaiah thing. 565 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 1: I get it. No, he love My mother raised me right. No, No, 566 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 1: I got it. Hey, I got it. I got it. 567 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 1: I just being a journalist. Do you what do you 568 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:42,720 Speaker 1: remember about that practice where Michael and Magic kind of 569 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 1: going at each other and then Michael said, there's a 570 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 1: new sheriff in town. Oh, I remember vividly. Um. You 571 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 1: know those two are always talking trash to each other. 572 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 1: You know, my magic wanted to make sure that Michael 573 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:57,720 Speaker 1: knew that he still had game and he was you know, 574 00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 1: he had to go through him to to get the throne, 575 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 1: and Michael was you know, of course, as Michael is 576 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 1: always had a chip on his shoulder, he wanted to 577 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 1: show him and the rest of the guys that he 578 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 1: is the big dog. So you know, the practices were 579 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 1: were the we're the best thing, the best game, um, 580 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 1: you know, in terms of the games against other country, 581 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 1: it was, it was it was a piece of cake. 582 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 1: But going that the games against each other when everyone 583 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 1: is trying to you know, impress our co workers, those 584 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 1: were those were the games. Did Clyde Drexler show up 585 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 1: with two left shoes to practice one time with the 586 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 1: drink team? Now, why why you're preying up all the 587 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 1: negative things? Well, no, no, I'm just asking. I was 588 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 1: just I told people this story yesterday that Michael was 589 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 1: so rough on Clyde Drexler because somebody had the audacity 590 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 1: to say Clyde was as good as Michael or Michael. 591 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 1: You know, that competition that they had in the NBA finals, 592 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 1: and I said, there was a story that Clyde showed 593 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:04,960 Speaker 1: up with two left shoes for practice. Welle is a 594 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 1: great guy, He's a He's a great competitor. But you 595 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:12,479 Speaker 1: know Michael, anybody who who his uh, you know Michael 596 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 1: view as a people view as somebody that's close to Michael. 597 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 1: He tries to do everything he can to de moralize 598 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 1: him or to you know, show them that he is 599 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 1: he is number one. He did plays these mind games 600 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 1: with guys, and I think that both he and charl 601 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 1: were trying to play mind games with with with Clyde. 602 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:36,800 Speaker 1: Did Clyde show up with two left shoes for practice? Pathors? 603 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 1: I plead the you have me understand the the lights 604 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:47,960 Speaker 1: of all in my eyes? I plead the film. Who 605 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 1: did you keep? When did you keep from the Dream Team? Um? 606 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 1: I well, obviously my metal. Yeah you know I have 607 00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 1: my metal. Um I had I have to shoot, but 608 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 1: I've moved some many times I couldn't find it. I 609 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 1: have the medals. But it's funny because I had lost 610 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 1: my medals because you know, there was ninety two and 611 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 1: I moved so many times. I couldn't find both of 612 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 1: my golden medals. And um, you know, I was able 613 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 1: to to get it back. I think my house got 614 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:21,080 Speaker 1: broken in New York's uh at one point, I think 615 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 1: they stole they stole my medals. So I was able to, uh, 616 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:28,640 Speaker 1: I called it Jerry Colangelo, and it was great to 617 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 1: be able to, you know, get me to replacement medals. 618 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 1: So I have my medals and I have my uniform, 619 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 1: and apart from that, I think everything is in story somewhere. 620 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 1: Had you ever talked about losing your medals somebody's stealing 621 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 1: your medals before? I had not heard that. No, this 622 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 1: is the first time, and Jerry, Jerry, you know, Jerry 623 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 1: I spoke to because I had to get uh, you know, 624 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:54,280 Speaker 1: replacement medals. But yeah, just the first time that I 625 00:32:54,600 --> 00:33:00,160 Speaker 1: really spoke about it. Did they take other Memorabiliam know 626 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:04,080 Speaker 1: they took those. They did take my championship ring, my 627 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:07,480 Speaker 1: colleague championship ring, but someone tried to sell it on 628 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 1: eBay and I was able to get that back. Man. 629 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:18,720 Speaker 1: That sucks. Yeah, sometimes it sucks to be uh well known. 630 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,720 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, Yeah, I never I never heard that story. 631 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:24,960 Speaker 1: But you know, thank god, Jerry Clanchelo was able to 632 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 1: get replacement medals for you. Man. Yeah, see, he took 633 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 1: care of me. He's a great guy. Man, are you 634 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 1: gonna watch if you know you're gonna be on the documentary, 635 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 1: are you gonna watch the episode? I might watch a 636 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,240 Speaker 1: little to turn it back off. Look, it's like I said, 637 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:43,600 Speaker 1: you know, I don't. I don't need to watch it 638 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:47,400 Speaker 1: to know h what he did or you know how 639 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:50,800 Speaker 1: they beat us. Um, you know, I think it's great 640 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:55,680 Speaker 1: for the young generation to see how dominant he was. H. 641 00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:59,160 Speaker 1: But I mean everyone, I don't even need to watch it. 642 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:02,640 Speaker 1: Every time something comes on it, it's on, and I'm 643 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 1: always getting to text your on Oh yeah I might. 644 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:07,720 Speaker 1: I might try to start you as a recruit. Is 645 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:09,759 Speaker 1: funny because one of them, there's a recruit that a 646 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:13,080 Speaker 1: young man that we you know, it's coming to Georgetown 647 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 1: and I he asked me who I thought was was 648 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 1: the better player? Um, you know, Michael or Lebron And 649 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:22,920 Speaker 1: I told him Michael. So now he's texting me. He's like, coach, 650 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:26,120 Speaker 1: I see what you're talking about, Michael. Michael was he 651 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:30,800 Speaker 1: was a pig. But are your children asking you about 652 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:35,719 Speaker 1: Jordan my son? It's funny. Before I got on the call, 653 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:37,759 Speaker 1: he was I was on his zoom call with his 654 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:41,400 Speaker 1: with his first grade class, and you know, he's not 655 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 1: really into basketball yet, but I was. I was on 656 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,360 Speaker 1: the phone with Michael a couple of weeks ago and 657 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,719 Speaker 1: he's like, Dad, is that Michael Jordan's the guy that's 658 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:54,319 Speaker 1: on Mike shirt. I said, yes, that's him. He's like, 659 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 1: can I say hi? I said, no, you don't want. 660 00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:01,319 Speaker 1: I don't want to talk to Mike. Mike trash talk 661 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:06,520 Speaker 1: your son. Yeah, yeah, I know he would. I know 662 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 1: he would. That's the kind of guy. You're the best. 663 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:11,799 Speaker 1: You're the best. I did tell the story when we 664 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,600 Speaker 1: first met in San Antonio when Mark Jackson put me 665 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:17,600 Speaker 1: on the spot and said, Hey, tell Patrick who you 666 00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 1: would take, either him or a Keyman. I said, A 667 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:23,000 Speaker 1: Kem And then you let out the biggest laugh, and 668 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,200 Speaker 1: I think you even said I might take him too. 669 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 1: But A Keem was a great player. We had a 670 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:35,279 Speaker 1: lot of battles. Um. We were very similar. Unfortunately, uh 671 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,879 Speaker 1: he the only time that I was able to play 672 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:41,480 Speaker 1: in the championship, in the finals, I lost to him. 673 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,160 Speaker 1: But I guess he was getting me back for us 674 00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:49,640 Speaker 1: beating Houston Rocket Houston h Cougars in eighty four. Yeah, 675 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:53,120 Speaker 1: vice slamm a Jamma. Yes, but you know, Mike, Mark 676 00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:56,719 Speaker 1: did put you on on glass. But you know the 677 00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,680 Speaker 1: funny thing though, damn, that's the That was the first 678 00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:01,960 Speaker 1: time that you and I really sat down and got 679 00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:05,480 Speaker 1: to know each other as as people. Before I just 680 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:08,560 Speaker 1: thought of you was one of those media guys. Yeah. No, 681 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,239 Speaker 1: that day I came away from that dinner and I 682 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,640 Speaker 1: thank Mark Jackson. I said, look, I'm glad you put 683 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,560 Speaker 1: me on the spot because I and you even said, look, 684 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:19,120 Speaker 1: I appreciate you, you know, tell him being honest with 685 00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:22,920 Speaker 1: me right to my face. Because before that dinner, I 686 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,000 Speaker 1: always loved m A Tumbo more than you, But after 687 00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:28,719 Speaker 1: that dinner, it was it was you Patrick. You know, 688 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:35,360 Speaker 1: he's more of a people perfect he's the life of 689 00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:39,759 Speaker 1: the party. Oh if people only knew the real personality 690 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:43,400 Speaker 1: you have. You hid that so well for so many years. 691 00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:46,440 Speaker 1: And I went to Mark Jackson, I said, I'll be damned, 692 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:49,080 Speaker 1: he is funny with a sense of you or he goes, yeah, 693 00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:50,799 Speaker 1: he didn't want you to know that stuff, so don't 694 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:54,480 Speaker 1: tell people, and I went, sorry, But you know when 695 00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,160 Speaker 1: people when people see me, they oh, they judge what 696 00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,640 Speaker 1: they see on TV. They see me with my game 697 00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:03,200 Speaker 1: face thing, my scow you know I'm playing, I'm sweating. 698 00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:06,480 Speaker 1: You know, I'm giving elbows every now and then. So 699 00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,200 Speaker 1: you know, they when they when they make judgment, they 700 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:12,239 Speaker 1: make judgments of what they see on TV. But you 701 00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:14,400 Speaker 1: know they sometimes they never try to get to know 702 00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:18,120 Speaker 1: what the person really is off the court. Good stuff, 703 00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,879 Speaker 1: great to talk to you and gojoy is and uh, 704 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:27,040 Speaker 1: I'll talk to you. So that's Patrick Ewing. He's a 705 00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:30,799 Speaker 1: treat man. He really is. He's and he's right like 706 00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:34,600 Speaker 1: I had no idea who he was. I had no idea. 707 00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:36,439 Speaker 1: And then you just think that's a guy who doesn't 708 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:39,560 Speaker 1: trust the media, which I get how he was treated 709 00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:43,920 Speaker 1: growing up in Boston. Going to Georgetown, the whole thing. 710 00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,200 Speaker 1: I mean, that was a big, big deal. That's why 711 00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:49,600 Speaker 1: when people say, well, Michael greatest player college player of 712 00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:51,960 Speaker 1: all time, he wasn't even better than Patrick Ewing. And 713 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,759 Speaker 1: I don't mean that by even Patrick Ewing. Patrick Ewing 714 00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:56,080 Speaker 1: is one of the greats of all time. He's a 715 00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:59,000 Speaker 1: better college player than Michael Jordan was. All right, we'll 716 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,200 Speaker 1: take a break, play the up now. Thanks for listening 717 00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:03,600 Speaker 1: to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to catch 718 00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:06,560 Speaker 1: us live every weekday morning nine until noon eastern six 719 00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:09,359 Speaker 1: to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, and you can 720 00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:13,320 Speaker 1: find us on the iHeartRadio app at FSR or stream 721 00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:16,279 Speaker 1: us live every day at YouTube dot com slash The 722 00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:18,840 Speaker 1: Dan Patrick Show. By the way, the chat Row, we 723 00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:22,600 Speaker 1: gave you the opportunity, the responsibility to come up with 724 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:27,960 Speaker 1: design a T shirt and from sources close to me, substandard. 725 00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:31,759 Speaker 1: Whoa yeah, that's that was the general consensus. Yesterday after 726 00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,840 Speaker 1: the show, some sources close to me said, need to 727 00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:38,000 Speaker 1: do a little bit better, step up your game. And 728 00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:41,640 Speaker 1: for that more information on that, we go to Seaton O'Connor. Seaton, 729 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:45,360 Speaker 1: can you help the chat row with some ideas to 730 00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:47,640 Speaker 1: come up with a better T shirt? Well, I think 731 00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:50,000 Speaker 1: we just wanted to let the actual creative members of 732 00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:55,960 Speaker 1: chat Row send in their wow wow wow. I'm just kidding. 733 00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:59,239 Speaker 1: That was they chat Row likes to have some fun 734 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:01,040 Speaker 1: with me. That was just my one chance to get 735 00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:02,400 Speaker 1: them back. They're gonna have to phone with you now, 736 00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:05,319 Speaker 1: yeah they are. Yeah. Yeah. Instead of Mario, it's gonna 737 00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:09,040 Speaker 1: be you. Oh yeah yeah, hopefully it's the creative ones. Yeah. 738 00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:11,399 Speaker 1: I just think we could get some more submissions. Let's 739 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,760 Speaker 1: just see what else is out there? All right, I said, 740 00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:15,920 Speaker 1: by Friday, do I have to extend this now for 741 00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,040 Speaker 1: the chat row to come up with their own T shirt. 742 00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:21,400 Speaker 1: Let's see how they respond. Okay, all right. I wanted 743 00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:23,440 Speaker 1: to bring this to your attention. I brought this up 744 00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:25,920 Speaker 1: at the end of the show yesterday and it had 745 00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,319 Speaker 1: to do with college football. This was the information I got. 746 00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:34,640 Speaker 1: Here's the text that I received yesterday morning. It reads, 747 00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:39,160 Speaker 1: here's a consensus going on around the conferences. If things 748 00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:42,920 Speaker 1: progress at a predictable curve, you're gonna have ten games 749 00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:46,719 Speaker 1: with a later start date in the fall. You're gonna 750 00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:50,359 Speaker 1: have nine conference games. Regional games take preference, which means 751 00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:54,120 Speaker 1: less travel, no FCS games. Players return mid June or 752 00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:57,520 Speaker 1: early July. And I follow up, I say, what do 753 00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,520 Speaker 1: you mean by regional games? Ohio State would play Akron 754 00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:04,560 Speaker 1: or Kentucky, Illinois would play Northern Illinois or Missouri. You 755 00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:08,520 Speaker 1: would bust to more games, not fly. And then I said, 756 00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:12,399 Speaker 1: so no conference games, no non conference games. And then 757 00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:14,799 Speaker 1: I sort of said the conference that's struggling is the 758 00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:18,360 Speaker 1: PAC twelve. California is a concern. When it will open 759 00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:22,160 Speaker 1: and they stretch from Washington to Arizona, money is a concern. 760 00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:27,560 Speaker 1: As for the PAC twelve, not many regional options UNLV, 761 00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:31,640 Speaker 1: New Mexico, Portland State, Reno, etc. That's the information I 762 00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:35,360 Speaker 1: got yesterday. Starting college football a little later in the fall, 763 00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:39,640 Speaker 1: you would have ten games, you would have nine conference games, 764 00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:43,680 Speaker 1: and then you would have one non conference game. Rights. 765 00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,400 Speaker 1: That's what I'm told right now. That's what's being discussed 766 00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:50,839 Speaker 1: by the commissioners with these conferences. Brooks Keepka is going 767 00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,600 Speaker 1: to join us, and final Hour we'll talk to Mike 768 00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:58,439 Speaker 1: Floyo about the schedule release coming up on Thursday. One 769 00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:00,520 Speaker 1: Hour in the Books, Two more to Go, eaton Paulie, 770 00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:03,200 Speaker 1: Fritzie mcloviniers truly here on The Dan Patrick Show.