Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong Show, Katty Armstrong and Jetti
Speaker 1: and now He.
Speaker 2: Armstrong and Yetty.
Speaker 3: So a new video came out about that dude that
Speaker 3: got shot over the weekend.
Speaker 2: We'll get to that in just a second.
Speaker 3: First this, we don't do as much red meat on
Speaker 3: this show as a lot of.
Speaker 2: Radio shows do. Red meat being when you're.
Speaker 3: Just you got the hungry lions of people who agree
Speaker 3: with you on a certain topic, and you just throw
Speaker 3: them the most delicious, easy to devour, good.
Speaker 2: Smelling, tasty stuff.
Speaker 3: You're making me hungry. That fits what they want. And
Speaker 3: it's just I mean, I don't know, it's just some shows.
Speaker 3: It's all they do. I just I don't dig it
Speaker 3: that much.
Speaker 2: Funny.
Speaker 3: I was watching a YouTube video yesterday about a comedy
Speaker 3: writer who used to write for Saturday Night Live and
Speaker 3: the way back in the day and how much he
Speaker 3: and Norm MacDonald seth Meyers. Some of the people like
Speaker 3: that hated jokes that were just pandering to the audience's politics,
Speaker 3: which is now they do all the time on Saturday
Speaker 3: Night Live. But like what Jimmy Kimmel does every single night,
Speaker 3: or Stephen Colbert. I mean, you got an audience there
Speaker 3: of lefties and you throw out a Trump's dumb and
Speaker 3: everybody claps and laughs.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's how do you sleep at night?
Speaker 3: I mean, that's just so embarrassingly red meat easy. It's
Speaker 3: just I don't know how you do that anyway, So
Speaker 3: we don't do as much of the.
Speaker 2: Just super simple stuff like that. I can't not do
Speaker 2: this one though.
Speaker 3: Michelle Obama the other day was talking about how as
Speaker 3: black women, we don't articulate our pain.
Speaker 2: Nobody allows us to speak out about our pain.
Speaker 3: And one response to that was, ma'am, I have literally
Speaker 3: never seen a clip of you talking in which you
Speaker 3: were not complaining. Oh that's good that we're not allowed
Speaker 3: to talk about our pain. When have you ever not
Speaker 3: been talking about your pain? And then they give you
Speaker 3: millions of dollars for books about your pain and TV
Speaker 3: specials and endless interviews and platforms at the convention to
Speaker 3: talk about your pain.
Speaker 2: We're not allowed to ever say our pain out loud.
Speaker 2: Oh give me a freaking break.
Speaker 1: The problem with being a leftist race hustler is you're
Speaker 1: not allowed to complain about being a victim at all.
Speaker 2: So that's why we never do.
Speaker 3: I've literally never seen a picture of you, video of
Speaker 3: you when you weren't complaining.
Speaker 2: That's pretty good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, So you got the guy that was shot
Speaker 3: over the weekend.
Speaker 2: Who was he?
Speaker 3: Well, this is the way John Carl portrayed him in
Speaker 3: the intro d ADC this week Sunday morning.
Speaker 4: His name Alex Pretty. He was thirty seven years old.
Speaker 4: He was an American citizen. He had no criminal record.
Speaker 4: He worked as a nurse. His patients were American veterans.
Speaker 4: He was an avid outdoorsman, a competitive cyclist, and I
Speaker 4: licensed a gun owner. He played football and baseball in
Speaker 4: high school.
Speaker 1: He was a boy scout, uh literally a boy scout.
Speaker 1: There you go, in case you needed help with the narrative,
Speaker 1: mister Carl was trying to set up there.
Speaker 3: Okay, And he probably was all those things, but he
Speaker 3: was also this thing as reported in the news.
Speaker 2: In the new video that came out yesterday.
Speaker 5: New video appearing to show Minneapolis ICU nurse Alex Pretty
Speaker 5: in a struggle with federal agents eleven days before he
Speaker 5: was shot and killed. You see a man who appears
Speaker 5: to be pretty and others on the scene shouting at
Speaker 5: agents who had been blocking an intersection. On January thirteenth,
Speaker 5: a man who looks like Pretty seen kicking a federal
Speaker 5: vehicle before agents got out, pushed him and tackled him
Speaker 5: to the ground. Agents then firing gas into the crowd.
Speaker 5: But the agents got up and the man appearing to
Speaker 5: be Pretty, walked away a gun visible on his waistband.
Speaker 1: We don't know what happened before this altercation.
Speaker 3: So spitting on agents and kicking their vehicle while having
Speaker 3: a gun is not okay. You actually legally can't do
Speaker 3: that because you're getting involved with physically getting involved with
Speaker 3: law enforcement while packing a gun that you're right to carry.
Speaker 3: A gun went away at that point, so that's one
Speaker 3: thing he could have been charged with that. As Mark
Speaker 3: Halpern writes today, nobody serious is saying that it justifies
Speaker 3: him being shot in the circumstance he got shot, But
Speaker 3: it's no longer a portrait of a young man who
Speaker 3: was a peaceful protester. He was an angry interventionist on
Speaker 3: multiple occasions, maybe more than the two we've seen. Well,
Speaker 3: he might have been doing it every day, going and
Speaker 3: getting in the faces of cops, spitting on him, kicking
Speaker 3: their cars, that sort of stuff. And again, surely you're
Speaker 3: not stupid enough to think I'm claiming that. Then like
Speaker 3: two weeks later, you can shoot him anytime you want,
Speaker 3: for any reason. But but my argument would be John
Speaker 3: Carl did that little opening on ABC this week because
Speaker 3: he felt that mattered. Okay, well, if it matters what
Speaker 3: kind of guy was, now we're telling you what kind
Speaker 3: of guy he also was.
Speaker 1: Right, let's complete the picture, John, I doubt he will. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're a nut if you do that.
Speaker 3: If you go there where law enforcement is trying to
Speaker 3: do their job and you spit on cops and kick
Speaker 3: their vehicle, you're a freaking nut.
Speaker 1: Your hobby is fighting cops. And also remind the football, baseball,
Speaker 1: and competitive cycling. Your hobby is fighting cops in the streets.
Speaker 2: It really is. And man, you are playing a dangerous game.
Speaker 3: Same as a woman who blocked in cops, which is
Speaker 3: itself a crime, and then her wife.
Speaker 2: Come on, big boy beer, get some lunch, can be
Speaker 2: here all day.
Speaker 3: I mean, go ahead and have that attitude with cops,
Speaker 3: cops and really dangerous situations. Do it over and over
Speaker 3: and over again and until your luck runs out well.
Speaker 1: And not only that, but spend all day raising the
Speaker 1: tension level and making it intentionally more and more difficult
Speaker 1: for the cops involved to do their jobs.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like I said the other day, if you haven't
Speaker 3: listened to that video where the poor dude gets shot,
Speaker 3: because you know, I wish he hadn't been shot, But
Speaker 3: if you haven't listened to that video with the sirens
Speaker 3: and the drums and everything, God, how you would keep
Speaker 3: your wits about you and you know, act in a
Speaker 3: reasonable measured way when you're in a fight, or you've
Speaker 3: been in a fight just recently, or people have been
Speaker 3: beat up yesterday. I mean, it's God asking something impossible
Speaker 3: of these.
Speaker 2: People, right, right?
Speaker 1: Does that excuse not living up to your you know, training,
Speaker 1: blah blah blah? No, But how about there are multiple
Speaker 1: things that went wrong, and let's be honest about all
Speaker 1: of them, including the boy scout who likes to fight
Speaker 1: federal law law enforcement in the streets, gets a charge
Speaker 1: out of it, thinks he's righteous.
Speaker 3: What he was a boy scout, he played high school football.
Speaker 3: He goes into dangerous situations and spits on cops with
Speaker 3: a gun in his belt, kicks out their tail lights,
Speaker 3: does it day after day and then at the end
Speaker 3: something bad happened and I'm shocked. Come on, not good,
Speaker 3: though hopefully it's being dialed down over the last couple
Speaker 3: of days. Getting Ice Barbie out of there probably helps.
Speaker 3: Tom Holman is now in there. Tom Holman, if you
Speaker 3: don't know his act, has been involved in the immigration
Speaker 3: thing at the federal level since the eighties, and Barack
Speaker 3: Obama gave him some presidential medal thingy for the way
Speaker 3: he handled deportations in the Obama administration. And he was
Speaker 3: speaking today from clips.
Speaker 2: Although I've not looked at the list.
Speaker 1: Oh, I've looked at over Jack, there's some fine, fine clips.
Speaker 1: Let's lead with sixty.
Speaker 6: I've been on a ground less than three full days.
Speaker 6: I got an heer on Monday, President in the United
Speaker 6: States coming and asked me to deploy here. Got here
Speaker 6: Monday evening and I'm staying for the proms gone. But
Speaker 6: we've made a lot of progress, a lot of progress
Speaker 6: in the last three days.
Speaker 3: He has grown up vibes versus several people in the
Speaker 3: Trump administration and all the Democrats in Minnesota.
Speaker 1: Right right in the Democrats in the Biden administration speaking
Speaker 1: of which sixty one.
Speaker 6: We're in a fast administration. Well, I'll remember, more than
Speaker 6: ten million illegal alins entered this nation. Many were national
Speaker 6: security threats, public safety threats. We can't remember. We're two million,
Speaker 6: two million known godways, two million people hate paid more
Speaker 6: to get away. Why that's just scary to hell out everybody.
Speaker 1: Then he makes the point that he's been meeting with
Speaker 1: the officials both in Minneapolis and Minnesota in general, and
Speaker 1: they didn't agree on everything, but you can can't fix
Speaker 1: problem without discussions. And then give us sixty three.
Speaker 6: Michael, all we want is to talk to the person
Speaker 6: that's local and state law enforcement authorities locked in the
Speaker 6: jail cell. They chose the lockedest person up. That's what
Speaker 6: we want to talk to. The public safety treat So
Speaker 6: the argument is that protects victim witness of the crime, but
Speaker 6: it's it's.
Speaker 2: Crap, crap, crap.
Speaker 1: And then finally this sixty four.
Speaker 6: When we have these agreements, it takes less law enforcement
Speaker 6: agents to do the job. One agent can arrest one
Speaker 6: bad guy in the safety and security of a jail
Speaker 6: well where he's behind the wire. We know we don't
Speaker 6: have weapons, but when you normally release that public safety threat,
Speaker 6: illegal alien back in the community. We have a job
Speaker 6: to do. We're going to arrest them. So we're going
Speaker 6: to find them. And what happens is, now we've got
Speaker 6: to rest somebody on his turf. We as access to
Speaker 6: who knows what weapons. Now we got to send hoteam
Speaker 6: out covered back or cover the front or officer safeties.
Speaker 6: Then because of the hateful rhetoric in the attacks on
Speaker 6: ice officers, now we got to send the security team
Speaker 6: behind the arrest team. So what could have been done
Speaker 6: with one person a safety and security jail, Now we
Speaker 6: got fifteen sixteen people out there doing it. I know
Speaker 6: that causes stress in the community. So if we get
Speaker 6: these agreements in place, I mean, it's less agents on
Speaker 6: the street.
Speaker 1: So while brush cut guy whose name I have a
Speaker 1: mental block down with the long coat that was compared
Speaker 1: to to Aveno Nazi coats in one of perhaps the
Speaker 1: final idiotic stretching of who's a Nazi and who's not,
Speaker 1: I really prefer Holman's vibe. Oh yeah, And not for
Speaker 1: a second do I not agree that if you're here legally,
Speaker 1: there needs to be something done about it, even if
Speaker 1: you're a fine, hardworking person who's just looking for a
Speaker 1: better life. We've got to have a system for dealing
Speaker 1: with or change the law right, or change the law.
Speaker 1: But as a practical man, you cannot run rough shot
Speaker 1: to the point that you lose the public and you
Speaker 1: lose public support, because then you can't do your jobs.
Speaker 1: So I like Colman's approach. I think he was exactly
Speaker 1: the right move calming things down, I hope, although the.
Speaker 3: Real hardcore instigators who are more about causing disruption and
Speaker 3: tearing down the country than they are the specific issue
Speaker 3: in Minneapolis, I don't know if they're going to give.
Speaker 1: Up right right, Hey, when I was doing oh, we
Speaker 1: probably had to take a break. We're going to talk
Speaker 1: to Mike Lions in a few minutes about the situation.
Speaker 1: Do we strike around? What would that look like? And
Speaker 1: in my little section of good News, I forgot one
Speaker 1: of the stories I was going to bring you, and
Speaker 1: that for the first time in you know, my memory. Anyway, Democrats,
Speaker 1: who've always held a commanding edge on who do you
Speaker 1: trust more for education have lost it. Republicans actually lead
Speaker 1: that now in some pretty big polls. So the good
Speaker 1: news is people are waking up to how crappy and
Speaker 1: ideological government schools have become.
Speaker 3: So I mentioned last hour that I had a package
Speaker 3: lost by one of your major shippers, pretty expensive package,
Speaker 3: and I've run into some problems and got a couple
Speaker 3: of interesting texts about that that I think is news
Speaker 3: that you can use if you're ever in that situation.
Speaker 3: And it ain't good, but it's worth knowing ahead of
Speaker 3: time in case you're ever going to ship anything expensive.
Speaker 2: Ever again, stay tuned for all that.
Speaker 3: So I think this is having the information to know
Speaker 3: because I'd never lost a bag before shipping it, or
Speaker 3: a package or anything like that, and I'm going through
Speaker 3: it and so maybe it'll be helpful for to you
Speaker 3: if you are ever in that situation.
Speaker 2: But I can't.
Speaker 3: We set everything we've talked about over the last two hours,
Speaker 3: So you either get this or you don't. But here's
Speaker 3: a pretty good text taking a shot at me. Oh sure,
Speaker 3: I'm a moron for following the core gasm influencer, But
Speaker 3: you make maids dig through garbage without a tip and
Speaker 3: then can't remember your one piece of luggage, that's a.
Speaker 2: Pretty good shot. Fair criticism, Yes, it is fair criticism.
Speaker 2: The just will allow it. So I left my one
Speaker 2: big bag.
Speaker 3: We left it in the hotel when we left New Orleans,
Speaker 3: and then I called the hotel as soon as I
Speaker 3: figured that out, and they said, it happens every day,
Speaker 3: literally happens every day, and we have a system for it,
Speaker 3: and we ship at FedEx, And so I did that.
Speaker 2: FedEx lost it.
Speaker 3: And there's a lot of stuff in there, like a
Speaker 3: ton of stuff in there because we're just carrying light
Speaker 3: carryons on the plane. And I found out eventually the
Speaker 3: insurance you get for it is one hundred bucks. And
Speaker 3: that's if you can provide receipts for everything in the bag,
Speaker 3: including for the bag itself if it expensive. And I
Speaker 3: don't know about you, but like I don't keep receipts
Speaker 3: for three year old suitcases or that sort of stuff.
Speaker 3: Maybe you're more organized than I am. Or my jeans
Speaker 3: or my shoes or all the different things that we
Speaker 3: had in there, several persons, and then and then when
Speaker 3: I'm trying to deal with it, it's like, well, you're
Speaker 3: gonna have to contact the shipper, but you have a
Speaker 3: you have a tracking number. So obviously you had it
Speaker 3: says here package received and you had a tracking number.
Speaker 3: Where did it go next? I'm sorry, you're gonna have
Speaker 3: to talk to the person who shipped it. But you're
Speaker 3: the ones who had it last. They didn't have it last.
Speaker 3: You had it last, So why would I ask them
Speaker 3: where it is? If you're the ones who had it last,
Speaker 3: you'll need to talk to the shipper. I mean, I
Speaker 3: just got no It was no help whatsoever. It was
Speaker 3: so frosh Sir. We don't care about your problem and
Speaker 3: we don't want to solve it.
Speaker 2: Click Jack.
Speaker 3: All I can one text Jack. All I can say
Speaker 3: is air tags good, good idea. I've had it recommended,
Speaker 3: I've been planning to do it, and I have it.
Speaker 3: I will in the future. I will never have a
Speaker 3: big suitcase ever again with that having an air tag
Speaker 3: on it. It is true that you have to use
Speaker 3: the I'm not going to mention the company anymore claim process,
Speaker 3: and your limited to one hundred bucks your life. Your
Speaker 3: insurance policy if you've got an umbrella policy might cover
Speaker 3: for more.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'll look into that. That's a good idea. Hey,
Speaker 2: I was just.
Speaker 3: Listening to your story about the company losing your package.
Speaker 3: Every time something ships with this company, I've had all
Speaker 3: kinds of problems they shouldn't be in business. Everybody should
Speaker 3: use the other companies. Because there's two big shipping companies
Speaker 3: we all know, right, and I'm going to blaspheme both
Speaker 3: of them. This is just my personal experience. So I've
Speaker 3: worked with this one. They lost something, they're making no
Speaker 3: effort to find it, and like like, it's just hilariously
Speaker 3: dismissing my problem.
Speaker 2: Well, you'll have to talk to somebody whoever dropped it off.
Speaker 2: But they don't have it anymore. You have it, it says.
Speaker 5: So right here, you have it.
Speaker 3: Where's the last place it was? I'm sorry, I don't
Speaker 3: have that information.
Speaker 5: WHOA who would?
Speaker 2: If you don't, just don't get it.
Speaker 1: But they're one person with one package. We don't care, click.
Speaker 3: Right, right right, And this help has happened seldom enough
Speaker 3: that we don't have to worry about it. We can
Speaker 3: just eat your misery. There's only two companies, and I
Speaker 3: just wanted to mention the other company. For I used
Speaker 3: to ship around musical instruments a lot, and I always
Speaker 3: paid for the insurance, the extra money for the insurance
Speaker 3: to cover the value. The one time something got broken
Speaker 3: and I called to try to take advantage of it,
Speaker 3: they had way too many hoops to jump through to
Speaker 3: actually use the insurance. It would have been impossible because, well,
Speaker 3: you can't prove that we did it. How do we
Speaker 3: know that you didn't break it after you took it
Speaker 3: out of the package, And there's just no way to
Speaker 3: prove that.
Speaker 2: So just let you know.
Speaker 3: With both of the big companies out there, you know,
Speaker 3: good luck, but I'm saying good luck.
Speaker 1: Wow, Wow, how do we know you didn't break it?
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, Wait a minute, wait a minute. You
Speaker 1: sold me the insurance. How does this work?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: Oh, it really doesn't.
Speaker 3: We never be Yeah, And then other smarter people told me, no,
Speaker 3: don't buy the insurance. It's waste of time. You just
Speaker 3: got to hope it doesn't get broken. But if it
Speaker 3: doesn't get broken, the insurance isn't going to help you.
Speaker 1: Sir. Let me make this clear to you. We took
Speaker 1: your money. Now we have your money. We're keeping your money.
Speaker 1: Click right, Except they'd say it to a broken banjo.
Speaker 3: They'd say it in a very thick accent from another world,
Speaker 3: from another country. We're gonna talk to Mike Leines about
Speaker 3: war with Iran and what that would look like, among
Speaker 3: other things coming up.
Speaker 1: Armstrong and Geddy.
Speaker 7: As US President Donald Trump continues to threaten Iran's leadership,
Speaker 7: saying that the United States has amassed a gigantic force
Speaker 7: here in this region ready for military strikes.
Speaker 2: Iran's leadership remains defiant.
Speaker 7: I was able to speak with the speaker of Iranian's parliament,
Speaker 7: who tells me any attack on Iran would lead to
Speaker 7: a protracted war.
Speaker 3: Yan. It was interesting to find out today. I did
Speaker 3: not know this. Iran is the weakest they've ever been,
Speaker 3: but they're not completely defenseless. According to the Wall Street Journal,
Speaker 3: Tehran has an estimated two thousand mid range ballistic missiles
Speaker 3: that can reach across the region and strike as far
Speaker 3: as Israel also has significant stockpiles of short range missiles
Speaker 3: capable of reaching US bases in the Gulf and ships
Speaker 3: in the Strait of Horror Moves. I didn't know they
Speaker 3: were still that lethal. Could they bring those missiles to
Speaker 3: bear though, Jack? If Trump deploys the discombobulator again, right,
Speaker 3: let's discuss these matters and whatever else pops up with
Speaker 3: military analyst Mike Lyons. Mike, it's always enlightening and a pleasure.
Speaker 8: How are you, sir, Thanky guys. Great to be back.
Speaker 8: It's funny too.
Speaker 9: I got a text last night from somebody that said
Speaker 9: to me, are we going to be at war with
Speaker 9: Iran by the weekend? And I looked at the situation
Speaker 9: and said that the real possibility. So I appreciate this
Speaker 9: conversation today and let's let's see what we can talk
Speaker 9: about it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I somehow had become convinced that Iran was
Speaker 3: practically helpless. But they're not as helpless as I thought.
Speaker 3: So where does that put us?
Speaker 8: Now they're not.
Speaker 9: They have this mobile capability and we'll we'll have to
Speaker 9: clear out some of these bases, some of the fixed targets.
Speaker 9: Let's say that they could go after that are in
Speaker 9: the region. There is You will have to be involved
Speaker 9: with this. You saw the Iranians respond even back when.
Speaker 8: Israel took out most of their air defense platforms.
Speaker 9: Back last spring, and they still were able to respond
Speaker 9: and overwhelm and hit targets inside of Israel. They could
Speaker 9: still do the same thing. Any of those air defense
Speaker 9: systems have are easily overwhelmed. Now we've got destroyers with
Speaker 9: When you bring the Abraham Lincoln, you bring all of
Speaker 9: the support that comes with that there will be a
Speaker 9: lot more air defense assets in the region, which I
Speaker 9: think the President is relying on should something happen. But
Speaker 9: they would have at least one last strike, and they
Speaker 9: could do some damage if they decided to launch something preemptively,
Speaker 9: So I don't think they launched preemptively. They'll they'll do
Speaker 9: it in response to something. If we don't get everything
Speaker 9: on the first round of our targeting.
Speaker 1: What would they be likely to target and how much
Speaker 1: damage do you suppose they could do?
Speaker 9: But I'll go for civilian built up areas. They'll go
Speaker 9: for military bases we have in the Middle East and
Speaker 9: likely try to hit some of our ships. They won't
Speaker 9: be success those because we're pretty good at defending our
Speaker 9: own fleet that's there. But Israel likely becomes the big target,
Speaker 9: which is why any military operation that we have we're
Speaker 9: contemplating with the Iranians in this situation as trying to
Speaker 9: weaken their regime. I'm sure the Israelis are arguing for
Speaker 9: a decapitation strikes, that we're going to do something in
Speaker 9: order to take out their command and control, take out
Speaker 9: their potential ability to launch ease center rockets. It depends
Speaker 9: how much they have been you know, they've been disintermediated,
Speaker 9: let's say, and they have commanding control down to low
Speaker 9: levels to just loass them, we assume, I think Israel
Speaker 9: assumes that there's a lot of commandic controls centralized there.
Speaker 9: So we go after those targets. Perhaps we can keep
Speaker 9: them from launching, but Israel is going to be very
Speaker 9: involved because they'll like to go after built up area
Speaker 9: civil in areas that they'll look to make sure that
Speaker 9: they can defend first as well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know the history of these sorts of things
Speaker 3: is having very clear cut goals. What we're trying to
Speaker 3: accomplish is always so important, I mean, and so when
Speaker 3: we are trying to take out their capability to build
Speaker 3: a nuclear weapon, that's that's pretty clear goal.
Speaker 2: But our goal here is stop being bad guys. What
Speaker 2: is our goal?
Speaker 9: Well, you know, we've given them these three demands that
Speaker 9: are just maximus, you know, you know from our perspective, basically,
Speaker 9: no more Enrichmond of nuclear weapons and nuclear sites in Iran,
Speaker 9: completely limiting the number and range of long range ballistic
Speaker 9: missile as they have. And then then when they must
Speaker 9: end all support to proxy groups they're supporting them to
Speaker 9: the least, which I think are very weakened now as well.
Speaker 9: I mean, I don't think that is as big a threat.
Speaker 9: Israel has done an incredible job. You've got really maybe
Speaker 9: the who Thi's left a little bit of there and
Speaker 9: there's you know, strands of heads below maybe on the like,
Speaker 9: but Hamas and these other areas, these other groups have
Speaker 9: been very much decimated. So but this is really about
Speaker 9: the president making Iran come to heal in some ways,
Speaker 9: and this implied regime change that always takes place every
Speaker 9: time we get involved with something like this. We saw
Speaker 9: it in Venezuela, and I think, you know, we've got
Speaker 9: to be careful because this is not Venezuela. This is
Speaker 9: not the same situation. This is a forty seven year
Speaker 9: regime that's been in charge, that rules with an iron fist,
Speaker 9: that is killing tens of thousands of its own people
Speaker 9: right now.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 9: Trying to find some historical analogy, looks Hungary in the fifties,
Speaker 9: maybe more like Syria because all the power silver remains
Speaker 9: with the government. There's the civilians that no chance, they
Speaker 9: have no way to fight against this, the Republican guards
Speaker 9: and also the revolutionary guards that exist inside of Iran.
Speaker 2: Right now.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, you brought up the protesters there at the end,
Speaker 3: I was going to mention. So we went through the
Speaker 3: three demands that Trump more or less announced over the
Speaker 3: last couple of days. None of them included anything about protesters.
Speaker 3: He hasn't mentioned protesters in a couple of weeks, and
Speaker 3: that was the original reason for sending the aircraft carrier.
Speaker 3: So is all of this just kind of you know,
Speaker 3: we just need a reason to go in there and
Speaker 3: get rid of the eye tolla.
Speaker 2: Is that what's going on?
Speaker 8: I think so, I think that could be it. But
Speaker 8: this is Israel.
Speaker 9: I think their influence on this and their strategy is
Speaker 9: always decapitated in they But I still think that would be.
Speaker 8: A good try and result.
Speaker 9: It's just, you know, what is a military target in
Speaker 9: this In this case, the target some you know, a
Speaker 9: six year old cleric to try to take out his
Speaker 9: command post, which he really doesn't control the military anyway.
Speaker 9: That you know, you don't know a lot about the
Speaker 9: inner workings here that he has influence and the like.
Speaker 8: But but if from from.
Speaker 9: Our perspective in the United States, it's not a good target.
Speaker 9: From aerial's perspective, it's a great target but but that's
Speaker 9: not something they.
Speaker 8: Could do on their own. It's not something that we
Speaker 8: think it's going to lead to any positive results.
Speaker 1: Talking to military analysts Mike Lyons and Mike, you've touched
Speaker 1: on this a little bit, But if you are going
Speaker 1: to launch a decapitation strike, you always have to have
Speaker 1: a reasonable idea of what will happen next? What well,
Speaker 1: I mean, are you just going to create a leadership
Speaker 1: vacuum and cross your fingers or is the idea? Look,
Speaker 1: we are just going to reduce their offensive capability, whether
Speaker 1: it's nuclear programs, uh, financially funding the proxies, the ability
Speaker 1: of the Republican Gardis strike. We're just going to weaken
Speaker 1: Iran however much we can and then see what.
Speaker 2: Happens and react to it.
Speaker 1: That sounds like what the goal might be.
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's not a good goal.
Speaker 9: And I think you saw a Rubio secretary Ubia testify
Speaker 9: yesterday that why Venezuela has gone well so far as
Speaker 9: because they'd set the stage for that what happens next?
Speaker 9: After they pulled out in Duro, they made a deal
Speaker 9: with everybody around them and said, you know, you can
Speaker 9: either be cooperative or you're going to find yourself in
Speaker 9: an armed junk stuit on a special force of helicopter.
Speaker 9: And so they're kind of playing.
Speaker 8: Ball, so to speak.
Speaker 9: But there's nobody to play ball inside of Iran.
Speaker 8: There's no that. We just don't don't we.
Speaker 9: The United States doesn't have that kind of influence. Maybe
Speaker 9: Turkey does, and other Islamic countries do, but there's that
Speaker 9: it's not the same situation. So we're going to repeat
Speaker 9: the mistakes of Iraq and potentially I look at Syria
Speaker 9: what happened there, there was protests against the government and
Speaker 9: that that civil war lasted seven years. It's going to
Speaker 9: take something inside Iran like Uranian military itself rising up
Speaker 9: and having a conflict against the Revolutionary Guards and and
Speaker 9: and some of the major players, but having them stop
Speaker 9: kill their own people, which is another major factor here.
Speaker 9: But but without that that day after plan. Again, there's
Speaker 9: I hope there's people in the administration saying, look, we
Speaker 9: can project power as much as we want, strangle as
Speaker 9: much as we want, but once we start firing missiles,
Speaker 9: then then all bets are off.
Speaker 3: Okay, So that hints toward to what I was about
Speaker 3: to ask, Because you know, you you come on air
Speaker 3: and you analyze the military situation, which as you're asked
Speaker 3: to do on variety of shows, But you don't sound
Speaker 3: like you got a lot of enthusiasm for the idea
Speaker 3: of the United States going to war with Iran.
Speaker 8: I don't. I don't see a military solution to this.
Speaker 9: Again, we've talked about Iran greatest foreign policy failure in
Speaker 9: my lifetime post World War two, you name it.
Speaker 8: It's affected my whole life.
Speaker 9: It's affected million, tens of millions of Americans that have
Speaker 9: fought in conflicts in the Middle East.
Speaker 8: And and I.
Speaker 9: Love nothing more for it to change. And we've watched
Speaker 9: the previous political administrations appease Iran and try to do
Speaker 9: all kinds of things to get them to come to
Speaker 9: play ball, but they're not so and I think they
Speaker 9: haven't been and I don't think.
Speaker 8: They're changing now. We're seeing that they're.
Speaker 9: Not going to go against They're not going to all
Speaker 9: of a sudden agree to our maximust demands, so to speak.
Speaker 9: So we're the.
Speaker 8: Policy should remain containment.
Speaker 9: Maybe we put some naval blockade, but I think that
Speaker 9: that crosses a red line for them as well. Maybe
Speaker 9: they start firing, but once they start firing. Then I
Speaker 9: think all bets are often I think it introduces other
Speaker 9: things that we could do. But maybe the naval blockade
Speaker 9: is what we'll do next. But there's no military solution
Speaker 9: that's going to get regime change in Iran.
Speaker 8: As as hard ast for me to say that.
Speaker 1: It's frustrating but true, even as a superpower, like you know, geopolitics,
Speaker 1: Like in life, there are some problems you don't fix.
Speaker 1: You just manage them. That's the best you can do. Mike,
Speaker 1: last question for me, anyway, I made a half light
Speaker 1: hearted reference to the discombobulator in introducing you. According to
Speaker 1: many accounts, during the raid on Maduro in Venezuela, right,
Speaker 1: the guys who are falling to their knees, bleeding from
Speaker 1: the eyes, whatever, and weapons systems were rendered inoperable. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what's going on there? What's your best guess?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 9: So what I love about our countries and we got
Speaker 9: things on the shelf that we could try and.
Speaker 8: Then we pull out for things like this.
Speaker 9: I spent some time the last couple of weeks down
Speaker 9: to Special Ops Command down down to.
Speaker 8: Tampa actually with their softworks, with.
Speaker 9: Their innovations center down there, and it's pretty amazing the
Speaker 9: kind of things that we have in this you know,
Speaker 9: kind of James Bond foundry that exists in that building,
Speaker 9: and the kind of things that we're developing, you know,
Speaker 9: from a creativity perspective. So we're just doing a lot
Speaker 9: more creative things in order to you know, to assure
Speaker 9: that we have a military victory and we can exert
Speaker 9: our forces there using not only just kinetic but electronic
Speaker 9: and you know, turning the lights out, you know, cyber
Speaker 9: there's all there's all kinds of creative things that we're doing,
Speaker 9: thank god, a lot of levels. And so so that's
Speaker 9: that's kind of what that's all about. And the President
Speaker 9: that's a pretty good job of masking it and being
Speaker 9: and explaining it in a way that makes it mysterious
Speaker 9: and sounds like a James Bond movie. But I could
Speaker 9: tell you this. It's it's very interesting stuff.
Speaker 1: Do you think our adversaries are equal to us China
Speaker 1: specifically in that realm?
Speaker 8: No, I don't think so.
Speaker 9: I think part of its creativity, part of what our
Speaker 9: advantage is there always are fact that we think of
Speaker 9: stuff and actually go and do it. You know, there
Speaker 9: was this you saw of the NATO chancellor or the
Speaker 9: NATO secretary step there said, you know, these countries have
Speaker 9: to spend ten times the amount of budget in order
Speaker 9: to get militaryized. But what they would miss out is
Speaker 9: our innovation. And China doesn't innovate anything. He just copy
Speaker 9: and so were we put things out there that we
Speaker 9: don't even think is correct, and China will try to
Speaker 9: copy and go down a rabbit hole and realize it
Speaker 9: doesn't kind of work.
Speaker 8: Maybe we're doing that with this Golden Dome system.
Speaker 9: And I still am not into a missile defense systems
Speaker 9: as a conversation for another day.
Speaker 8: But what other countries.
Speaker 9: Don't have we have is a side the great resources,
Speaker 9: it's just the innovation in order to get actually things done.
Speaker 8: And that's that's that's our advantage.
Speaker 1: Military military analyst Mike Lyons, Mike, thanks so much for
Speaker 1: the time.
Speaker 8: Enjoyed it as always, great guy, Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. What's interesting. We we will have to drill
Speaker 1: down on that another day. Mike is sanguine about or
Speaker 1: skeptical of of missile defense systems. How interesting.
Speaker 3: I wasn't going to ask him this on the air,
Speaker 3: but I'll bet he has personal friends.
Speaker 2: That have died at the hands of Iran. I'd be
Speaker 2: shocked if he didn't.
Speaker 1: Or and their proxies obviously, Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they've killed. Iran has been behind killing more Americans
Speaker 3: than any other country in the world over the last
Speaker 3: probably since World War Two, well Vietnam, but yeah so
Speaker 3: but but but even with that, he's got friends who
Speaker 3: probably died at the hands of the Iranian regime. He's
Speaker 3: not hawkish on the idea of trying to take this
Speaker 3: on because he doesn't think it would.
Speaker 1: Work right, right or you'd certainly have enough margin for
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Speaker 1: enough of that, that's enough of that. The Mullin is
Speaker 1: freaking malevolent, Islamist, hateful, sick regime.
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