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Speaker 1: the radio affiliates around the country. NFL Big Cutdown Day yesterday.
Speaker 1: Some names. If you're a college football fan and you
Speaker 1: kind of run down the list, you're going, Oh, I
Speaker 1: know that guy, Kellen Mond, Josh Rosen, O, J Howard,
Speaker 1: Taco Charlton. So there's a few of them, few of
Speaker 1: those names in there. And when it comes to the
Speaker 1: NFL Draft, everybody likes to think that they're an expert.
Speaker 1: Every year. Oh you know, I'm hearing you know that
Speaker 1: guy is going to be a star, right Remember Josh
Speaker 1: Rosen twenty eighteen UCLA quarterback looked like he was the
Speaker 1: pro ready prospect. He was replaced after just one year
Speaker 1: in Arizona with Kyler Murray. He was cut by the
Speaker 1: Cleveland rounds yesterday. Last year, the Raiders selected Alabama tackle
Speaker 1: Alex Leatherwood, all right, a tackle Alabama can't miss. He
Speaker 1: was drafted at seventeen in the first round. There were
Speaker 1: people at the time he said, woh, that's a reach.
Speaker 1: Still a highly rated prospect, he was caught yesterday making
Speaker 1: that transition from college to the pros has never been easy,
Speaker 1: and it's tough to really handicap that where you go
Speaker 1: he can't miss? Or how did that guy make it?
Speaker 1: How did that guy become a star? And the NFL
Speaker 1: is littered with those stories, but the reality is nobody
Speaker 1: has any idea how these players' careers will shape and
Speaker 1: yesterday cutdown day a perfect reminder of exactly what we
Speaker 1: don't know, and I mentioned some of these players. Kelen
Speaker 1: Mond was drafted sixty sixth overall last year, one spot
Speaker 1: higher than Davis Mills. And at the time, if you
Speaker 1: go back, oh handwritings on the wall for Kirk Cousins
Speaker 1: kelen Mond, you know he's got first round talent. I went, okay,
Speaker 1: Alex Leatherwood, that was John Gruden, Mike Mayock. Josh Rosen
Speaker 1: was tenth overall by the Cardinals in twenty eighteen. Now
Speaker 1: in fairness to Rosen, and I thought that he was
Speaker 1: pro ready too. He played for an Arizona team that
Speaker 1: had a horrible offensive line and he didn't play well.
Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, you got Cliff Kingsbury.
Speaker 1: You got the number one pick, and he's going to
Speaker 1: take his guy and Kyler Murray and I thought, okay, Rosen,
Speaker 1: maybe he'll have a chance to latch on to somebody else.
Speaker 1: But you can go back through the draft through history. Here,
Speaker 1: I mean Matt Leiner, quarterback one of the greatest teams
Speaker 1: of all time. He washed out. That was another one
Speaker 1: of those Oh he can last ten years. He could
Speaker 1: be one of those guys that plays for ten years,
Speaker 1: whether he starts or he's a backup. O. J. Howard.
Speaker 1: If you said, all right, let me, let me, let
Speaker 1: me kind of choose out a tight end, you know,
Speaker 1: here's an Alabama tight end nineteenth overall pick twenty seventeen
Speaker 1: by Tampa Bay Gone, Lakwan Treadwell selected twenty third overall,
Speaker 1: Vikings twenty sixteen, Gonza. So you have Jared Davis back
Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen, Lions took him twenty first overall. Going,
Speaker 1: you could go down the list, and you go because
Speaker 1: if you follow college football, you're aware of these names.
Speaker 1: And then the Dolphins kept a quarterback yesterday. And if
Speaker 1: you love college football, and if you watch random college
Speaker 1: football teams, then you know who. Does anybody know who
Speaker 1: the Dolphins kept at quarterback? Up? Paulie. I didn't see
Speaker 1: their final roster. Well, I'm just saying one. No, yeah, hints,
Speaker 1: um give you a hint. They bring back Pat White
Speaker 1: from West Virginia. I loved him. No, I love Pat
Speaker 1: White too. Yes, bunch of Mountaineers cut yesterday though, Will Greer,
Speaker 1: Will Greer. Yeah. Tavon Austin. Oh, I thought Tavon Austin
Speaker 1: was going to be a guy who gets one hundred catches.
Speaker 1: Every year. Why why didn't he end up being Tyree
Speaker 1: Hill before? What the heck? I don't know, dang it,
Speaker 1: because I would watch him and I go, God, you
Speaker 1: just put him in space and he's gone, and then
Speaker 1: he's in space. Now he's gone because nobody picked him up.
Speaker 1: But I thought Tavon Austin was going to be one
Speaker 1: of those fast West welkers where it's just like, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna have a hundred catches, but I'm gonna make you
Speaker 1: pay with like ten or fifteen of these. All right,
Speaker 1: So the Dolphins quarterback, and it was a big deal
Speaker 1: to me because I remember watching one full game because
Speaker 1: I thought he had a lot of a lot of talent.
Speaker 1: He was fun to watch play on the West Coast
Speaker 1: late night, knowing you not late night, their games would
Speaker 1: probably be now nish like they were always an early game.
Speaker 1: He plays all right, big twelve. He plays in a
Speaker 1: state where there's another football team in the state Iowa,
Speaker 1: no Texas Tech, no Kansas. Well that's the state Kansas,
Speaker 1: Kansas State. Yes, yes, yes, yes, Michael Bishop, Michael from
Speaker 1: Kansas State. I'll even give you the school and you
Speaker 1: don't even know who it is. Skylar Thompson. Yes, Skylar Thompson,
Speaker 1: he made the Dolphins roster. This is the only show
Speaker 1: today that is applauding Skylar Thompson. Even shows in you know,
Speaker 1: Kansas state that sounds like I'm making instead of Manhattan, Kansas.
Speaker 1: All right, Skylar, Yeah, Skylar Thompson. Yes. There are some
Speaker 1: other cuts, like the Patriots cut Malcolm Butler so we
Speaker 1: never get a story. Patriots also cut two tight ends
Speaker 1: that they drafted, both in the third round two years ago.
Speaker 1: Third round tight ends to them gone in two years.
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Speaker 1: and have some fun alrighty poll question today, Seaton O'Connor
Speaker 1: is well let's see we could go with one. Would
Speaker 1: you rather have a long playing career long coaching career? Well,
Speaker 1: if I have a long coaching career, that's gonna be
Speaker 1: at least double what a long playing career is going
Speaker 1: to be. But you can't You kind of can't do both,
Speaker 1: so the coaching careers. Maybe your playing career didn't exactly
Speaker 1: work out, but you went on the coach for a
Speaker 1: long time. Well, Kevin O'Connell was with the Rams offensive coordinator,
Speaker 1: he was a backup quarterback in the NFL. He went
Speaker 1: to San Diego State. Now he's the Viking, said coach.
Speaker 1: At some point somebody had to say to him, Kevin,
Speaker 1: I don't think it's gonna work out with you playing.
Speaker 1: How about why don't you go into coaching? Would that
Speaker 1: be maybe similar to somebody seeing somebody acting or saying,
Speaker 1: you know what, maybe how about behind the camera not
Speaker 1: in front of the camera. Yeah, Paul, I have Kevin
Speaker 1: O'Connell's career stats. He was on I think four rosters, okay,
Speaker 1: but he only got playing time at two thousand and
Speaker 1: eight with the Patriots or for six twenty three yards,
Speaker 1: sixty six percent passer, no interceptions, for his care. Do
Speaker 1: you think he remembers all four pleaitions? Sir? He asked
Speaker 1: to I would think he would. Do you think do
Speaker 1: you think a guy like him said to himself at
Speaker 1: maybe twenty seven, I could be a backup for three
Speaker 1: or four more years, or I could transition to coaching
Speaker 1: now by choice. I wonder if it was a choice. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know, but you know what, he got touched
Speaker 1: by Sean McVeigh and Nell all of a sudden, and
Speaker 1: you know that offense. This past year with the Rams,
Speaker 1: they win a Super Bowl and he gets a head
Speaker 1: coaching chub. That certainly seems like a pretty good path. Yes, Marvin,
Speaker 1: when those guys get cut, what do you think is
Speaker 1: the cutoff age? Instead of maybe twenty two year twenty seven?
Speaker 1: Like do I keep going and stay in shape for
Speaker 1: you know, trying for you know, one more shot at
Speaker 1: the league. I would like to know where I was
Speaker 1: when I got cut. I don't know if you can
Speaker 1: ask that, like how close was I to making the roster?
Speaker 1: Because if somebody is honest with you and says, you
Speaker 1: know what, they're probably five guys ahead of you, then
Speaker 1: you start to have to I think that's when you
Speaker 1: start to do a little self inventory where you go,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe I got to think about something else.
Speaker 1: I tell people in this business who want to get
Speaker 1: into radio or TV, certainly TV. If you don't have
Speaker 1: something by the time you're twenty seven or twenty eight,
Speaker 1: then it's time to start looking at maybe being somebody
Speaker 1: behind the camera, a producer, coordinating producer. Yes, yes, I
Speaker 1: wonder if it's their agent that kind of tells them
Speaker 1: that it's not happening anymore, you know, because an agent, Okay,
Speaker 1: you're getting cut, but that's all right. We got five
Speaker 1: teams that already called that are interested. You know, well,
Speaker 1: phone's not really ringing, so whatever, random quote. A bunch
Speaker 1: of quarterbacks got cut yesterday. They might know that it's
Speaker 1: their agent might be telling them. It's a little quiet.
Speaker 1: But you're told, you're taught it's ingrained to be a
Speaker 1: competitor that you never want to say. All right, and
Speaker 1: think about these guys who retire, like Ben Roethlisberger didn't
Speaker 1: want to retire. He was a force to Steve Young
Speaker 1: didn't want to retire, John Elway didn't want to retire.
Speaker 1: Troy Aikman didn't want to retire. It's sometimes your hand
Speaker 1: is forced, yes, and if you're that close, you would
Speaker 1: think maybe you would have made the practice squad that
Speaker 1: that could have been an indication is that you were
Speaker 1: just on the cusp of making the team. They didn't
Speaker 1: completely get rid of you all. But think about this
Speaker 1: with guys who have been on practice squads. If you
Speaker 1: look at the Packers backup quarterbacks with Brett Farve, at
Speaker 1: one point, Kurt Warner was there in camp, Matt Hasselbeck
Speaker 1: was there in camp, and I wonder if they looked
Speaker 1: around and thought, am I ever going to play? Am
Speaker 1: I going to be a starting quarterback? And they ended
Speaker 1: up Hasselbeck played in a Super Bowl. Kurt Warner, of
Speaker 1: course won a Super Bowl and an MVP Hall of Famer.
Speaker 1: But at what point, at what position do you go
Speaker 1: maybe this isn't going to work out. I think if
Speaker 1: you're at other positions you might have a chance to
Speaker 1: latch on. Quarterback is really difficult because we make up
Speaker 1: our minds. If you're a first round quarterback, you know,
Speaker 1: a highly drafted quarterback, they're going to give you more time.
Speaker 1: At least normally they'll give you a couple extra years
Speaker 1: because they don't want to admit that they made a
Speaker 1: mistake there. You know, the Raiders made a mistake on
Speaker 1: Alex Leatherwood. But if you drafted a quarterback in the
Speaker 1: top five, top seven, chances are you're going to give
Speaker 1: him a few more years than you would somebody else.
Speaker 1: And at that position, we can't wait to bring in
Speaker 1: the new quarterback. Oh my gosh, you got to see
Speaker 1: this guy. And keep in mind, you're gonna have a
Speaker 1: couple of quarterbacks coming in this next year. You know,
Speaker 1: Alabama and Ohio State their quarterbacks are going to come in,
Speaker 1: and then you're gonna go, man, we'd love to get him,
Speaker 1: but that's two more jobs that are lost, or somebody
Speaker 1: goes down the depth chart and then somebody who's the
Speaker 1: third quarterback or the backup quarterback, they end up losing
Speaker 1: their jobs. But we'll talk to Kevin O'Connell. You know,
Speaker 1: for a guy who's been cut, I wonder what it's
Speaker 1: like when you're a head coach and you have to
Speaker 1: do that yesterday cutting down those players. He was on
Speaker 1: six different teams, So big day for NFL. Cutdown day.
Speaker 1: Sony Michelle got cut. Remember when Sony Michelle and Nick
Speaker 1: Chubb and you're like, that's a great backfield, but Nick
Speaker 1: Chubb got banged up. Sony Michelle looked great in the
Speaker 1: National Title game, and and Nick Chubb is a better
Speaker 1: running back, He's more powerful. Sony Michelle. It felt like
Speaker 1: he was more of a specialized back, but he was
Speaker 1: really a talented running back. And at that position, you
Speaker 1: get to be twenty nine thirty thirty one, and it's
Speaker 1: like you start to hear footsteps and they're not yours.
Speaker 1: There's somebody else. What else do we have, Seaton, Well,
Speaker 1: this one's on a different topic, but would you hire
Speaker 1: John Gruden to coach your team? You know what, We'll
Speaker 1: hold that thought because we'll hear from John Gruden coming up.
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Speaker 1: at DPS show PAULI has told me now three times,
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna guess it's really, really, really good. He's
Speaker 1: got a Dodger stat that he says is unbelievable, lable, unbelievable, believable,
Speaker 1: but really shows how great they are this year. Okay,
Speaker 1: but you've told me this a couple of times. I've
Speaker 1: been tracking the Dodgers. How much they win by this year?
Speaker 1: Oh the differential, Yes, you're differential. I watched a lot
Speaker 1: of the Dodgers and the Mets last night. It's fun.
Speaker 1: It's good stuff. And Aaron Judge at his fifty first
Speaker 1: home run. We'll take a break. We're just getting started
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Speaker 1: Peacock app. Little Rush Pete Alonzo of the Mets walk
Speaker 1: up song is working Man correct by Rush, Call good Paul.
Speaker 1: I watched him last night go to the plate and
Speaker 1: get worked over. He got struck out on three fastballs.
Speaker 1: Then he broke the bat over his leg. You know,
Speaker 1: if you do it, then you have to break your bat,
Speaker 1: right you gotta know, And it looks really bad. If
Speaker 1: you remember, Bo Jackson's the first who ever did that
Speaker 1: where I'm went, oh wow, yeah, I didn't think about
Speaker 1: that until you brought it up. Pete Alonzo that can't
Speaker 1: be the first time he's broken a bat. Has he?
Speaker 1: Probably that's out of anger? Do you practice that? I
Speaker 1: wouldn't want to do it on national TV? Yeah, and
Speaker 1: with and be out three to five weeks he did
Speaker 1: with And then if you whiff on breaking the bat, yes, time.
Speaker 1: But even if you've broken the back before, there could
Speaker 1: be that occasional time where you just have a deep
Speaker 1: upper thigh bruise in front of everyone. You've just embassed
Speaker 1: yourself because that one time it didn't take. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: then you're on the See when you go on the
Speaker 1: disabled list or the injured list, people are going to
Speaker 1: ask you, well, what happened? Who was it in the
Speaker 1: World Series who had the tarp roll over their foot
Speaker 1: or ankle? Vince Colin of the Saint Lois Cardinals got
Speaker 1: copp of the tarp, of course, last I look, the
Speaker 1: tarp won't move unless somebody moves it. But Vince got
Speaker 1: injured by the tarp. And if you do get injured,
Speaker 1: how did you get injured? Oh? I took a fastball
Speaker 1: right into the ribs. How did you get injured? I
Speaker 1: have stupidity? All right? Here you go, Paulie. It's a big, big,
Speaker 1: build up here to an incredible stat with the Dodger
Speaker 1: I think I have oversold it. Okay, So the La
Speaker 1: Dodgers this year are first team to ninety wins, ninety
Speaker 1: and thirty eight. They're dealing with like Walker Buller out,
Speaker 1: Trevor Bower out, you know, May comes back, Clayton Kershaw. Yeah.
Speaker 1: They have outscored their opponents this year by two hundred
Speaker 1: and eighty seven runs. That's almost one hundred more than
Speaker 1: the Yankees, and that's getting historic. At this point in
Speaker 1: the season. I think the Dodgers have played one hundred
Speaker 1: and thirty eight games. They've outscored their opponents by two
Speaker 1: hundred and eighty seven runs. The last time that happened
Speaker 1: that seventy eight years ago, nineteen forty four Cardinals. Actually
Speaker 1: the Dodgers in two thousand and two. The only four
Speaker 1: teams in history that have been this good run differential
Speaker 1: wise in history are the thirty nine Yankees, the twenty
Speaker 1: seven Yankees, the forty four Cardinals, and thirty six Yankees.
Speaker 1: This is kind of galactic what they're doing. The only
Speaker 1: team in the past generation that's close to what the
Speaker 1: Dodgers are doing doing this year are the Yankees of
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety eight, who blew through everybody. They were one
Speaker 1: hundred and fourteen and forty eight cruise to the World
Speaker 1: Series that year. So the Dodgers are, and they're actually
Speaker 1: getting better as a season goes along. They're beating their
Speaker 1: opponents by more runs in August than they did in May.
Speaker 1: The day bust out of the day, stat of the day?
Speaker 1: Here comes that what st out of the day. And
Speaker 1: this isn't a team that's fully assembled when you think
Speaker 1: about it. With thirty four games to go, the Dodgers
Speaker 1: can go five hundred for the rest of the season.
Speaker 1: They would still set a franchise record for wins with
Speaker 1: one hundred and seven. Yes seton peaking too soon? Coll
Speaker 1: Oh oh, okay, okay, see what you did there? All right,
Speaker 1: we'll get some phone calls here. John Gruden. We've we've
Speaker 1: reached out to John Gruden numerous times since he was
Speaker 1: fired by the Raiders. But he appeared at a little
Speaker 1: Rock Touchdown Club meeting and somebody's always got a camera
Speaker 1: there and John was talking about what happened when he
Speaker 1: got fired by the Raiders. I'm not gonna say anything
Speaker 1: but honest things here. I'm ashamed about what has come
Speaker 1: about in these emails, and I'll make no excuses for it.
Speaker 1: Is this, it's it's shameful. But I am a good person.
Speaker 1: I believe that. I'm I go to church, I've been
Speaker 1: married for thirty one years. I've got three great boys.
Speaker 1: I still love football. I've made some mistakes, but I
Speaker 1: don't think anybody in here hasn't. And I just asked
Speaker 1: for forgiveness and hopefully I get another shot. All Right,
Speaker 1: he might be too famous. Give him another shot. Um.
Speaker 1: I don't know what going to church and being married
Speaker 1: has anything to do with what kind of coach you are.
Speaker 1: But he did make mistakes, and does he get another chance? Yes?
Speaker 1: One dp he was in Little Rock, probably what we
Speaker 1: would call the Bible Belt. I'm trying to ingratiate himself
Speaker 1: with the people there. I go to church, I'm married,
Speaker 1: I have Greek kids. That sounds like, okay, you're trying
Speaker 1: to all right, You're you're trying to curry favor from
Speaker 1: the hometown crown. Yeah, Seton. Shouldn't he have said sorry? Um,
Speaker 1: I I guess let me. Let's see what happens after
Speaker 1: the lawsuit, because he's suing the National football thing, and
Speaker 1: we have invited him on but uh. The last correspondence
Speaker 1: was like he can't he's unavailable. I mean, what was
Speaker 1: the wording he used there? He said, uh, like I'm
Speaker 1: embarrassed in a shame, Yeah, in a shame nice dot
Speaker 1: dot of what transpired with those emails or he said
Speaker 1: some kind of language like that played again. Mark, I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna say anything but honest things here. I'm ashamed
Speaker 1: about what has uh come about in these emails. And
Speaker 1: I'll make no excuses for it is just it's it's shameful.
Speaker 1: But um, I am a good person. I believe that.
Speaker 1: I'm I go to church. I've been married for thirty
Speaker 1: one years. I got three great boys. I still love football.
Speaker 1: I've made some mistakes, but I don't think anybody'll in
Speaker 1: here hasn't uh, And I just asked for forgiveness and
Speaker 1: I get another shot. Now. Arkansas did flirt with John
Speaker 1: grudenback and I think twenty twelve, and he said, I
Speaker 1: think it was light flirting of maybe becoming Arkansas's new
Speaker 1: head coach. Maybe he's trying to zero in on the SEC,
Speaker 1: trying to coach there. Maybe you get a second tier
Speaker 1: team in the sec yestuht now turning on the audience
Speaker 1: and tell him that everyone has made a mistake. There
Speaker 1: are different levels of mistake. So now I found that
Speaker 1: kind of interesting too, that look, book us all in together,
Speaker 1: we've all made mistakes. I hate when somebody says, you know,
Speaker 1: everybody makes mistakes and nobody's we understand that who amongst
Speaker 1: you has not sinned? That was a big butt. Yeah, yeah, Paull.
Speaker 1: The tough part for Gruden, you know, objectively, is he's
Speaker 1: got three strikes against him. He's got off field issues
Speaker 1: that are still pending. On the field, he was he's
Speaker 1: a five hundred coach. He has a Super Bowl win,
Speaker 1: but he's a five out of coach one seventeen and
Speaker 1: one twelve, you know, and he didn't really get much
Speaker 1: better with the Raiders, and then he's almost too famous
Speaker 1: and too coverable. It's like, if you want, if you're
Speaker 1: an owner who wanted to bring in a coach, you
Speaker 1: don't want baggaged as you enter. But can he get
Speaker 1: to the point that Rick Pettino did where we thought,
Speaker 1: you know, Pettino went to grease to coach, but then
Speaker 1: came back. Now he's at iona can John Gruden. Get
Speaker 1: to the point, and would John Gruden's ego allow him
Speaker 1: to coach let's say, Bowling Green Youngstown State. YEAPO, that's
Speaker 1: a good comparison. Rick Pettino seems to have more high
Speaker 1: end seasons though when he coached like, well, Pettino is
Speaker 1: a better coach. Yeah, you know, watch more success. Yes,
Speaker 1: Pettino has a track record where and plus we're watching
Speaker 1: what's happening with the Raiders that a lot of these
Speaker 1: first round draft picks. You know, Gruden reportedly said no
Speaker 1: to Tom Brady and Rob Grunkowski first round draft picks
Speaker 1: with the Raiders or washing out players that were drafted
Speaker 1: with Mike Mayock and John Gruden. No, John Gruden won
Speaker 1: a super Bowl. John Gruden has a Look, if John
Speaker 1: Gruden doesn't coach the Raiders, he would not have this
Speaker 1: popularity because he was Chucky and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: you know, he took that persona and became an analyst
Speaker 1: at the mother Ship. And I think John was there
Speaker 1: what eight or nine years. I think John's disappointed that
Speaker 1: ESPN didn't have his back when he went through all
Speaker 1: of these things. Let's see how this all plays out
Speaker 1: with the NFL I think that that's interesting. Does he
Speaker 1: win it? You know? And then people will say, well,
Speaker 1: you want a super Bowl with Tony Dungee's roster, which
Speaker 1: is true. But John did get John's roster with the
Speaker 1: Raiders that got to the Super Bowl that lost to
Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. You got to give John credit
Speaker 1: for that. But John is a character, very charismatic. Can
Speaker 1: he get a second chance? Yeah, Paul, it's very apples
Speaker 1: and oranges. But John Gruden or urban Meyer, who's coaching
Speaker 1: at any level. First, I'm not trying to trivialize it there,
Speaker 1: but they have different types of baggat like Gruden's is specific.
Speaker 1: There's emails that are stamped and we can read them
Speaker 1: even that kind of Uh. There's a lot of stories
Speaker 1: about urban Meyer at many places, but there's less facts,
Speaker 1: there's less presentable evidence or whatever you want to call it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you had the moment in the in the bar in Columbus,
Speaker 1: and that that's because there were there were videos there.
Speaker 1: But we didn't see issues in Jacksonville. We heard about
Speaker 1: issues in Jacksonville. It was a strange hire to begin with,
Speaker 1: and even getting a job at Fox was a strange
Speaker 1: higher because it felt like all of that credibility that
Speaker 1: he had he left that in Jacksonville. I don't know
Speaker 1: that you tune in and you go I want to
Speaker 1: listen to him. I know what he did. And this
Speaker 1: goes back to urban is still popular probably in most
Speaker 1: parts of Florida or Gainesville, and certainly popular in Columbus.
Speaker 1: So you have two markets that probably still appreciate urban Meyer,
Speaker 1: but after that, the rest of the country doesn't. So
Speaker 1: when Fox brought him back, I thought that's an interesting
Speaker 1: choice to bring him back. But as far as getting
Speaker 1: another chance, I don't think he gets another chance as
Speaker 1: a head coach. I think John Gruden will get another
Speaker 1: chance for some reason. And I don't know the age
Speaker 1: the difference there, but Gruden is like we both went
Speaker 1: to Dayton. He was there probably five six years before
Speaker 1: or after I was. And then how old is Urban Meyers?
Speaker 1: He I got urban Meyer at fifty eight and John
Speaker 1: Gruen at fifty nine. Isn't that amazing? Wouldn't you think
Speaker 1: that John Gruden was younger than urban Meyer? And plus
Speaker 1: I mean that's that's young. Now you could still get
Speaker 1: a jump. I mean Belichick and saving or ten years older.
Speaker 1: But who do you want. Yeah, I mean I could
Speaker 1: see a second tier SEC team going after John Gruden.
Speaker 1: It's sort of like when Lane Kiffin and didn't have
Speaker 1: the same baggage, but Lane Kiffin went to Ole Miss.
Speaker 1: You're like, Okay, that's gonna spice things up in the SEC.
Speaker 1: And maybe that's the case with John. But let's see
Speaker 1: what happens with that lawsuit. Yes, I'll throw out a
Speaker 1: team that's been down for quite a while, but it
Speaker 1: has a great reputation. Urban Meyern No one considers him
Speaker 1: tainted as a college football coach, right, he always won
Speaker 1: as a college coach. Urban Meyer. Oh, Urban Meyer, Yes,
Speaker 1: Urban Meyer, not Cruden. Yeah, it seems like his career
Speaker 1: as a college coach is impeccable. Yeah, he's the hole
Speaker 1: of thing, you know in college if Nebraska Football called,
Speaker 1: or would Nebraska Football consider calling? All right, you can't
Speaker 1: you can afford to hire a guy with baggage. You
Speaker 1: can't for to keep losing college football. Yeah yeah, Mississipi
Speaker 1: State hired Michae Leach. It's working, Okay, you know, lots
Speaker 1: of guys get second chances. I own ah hired Ric Patino.
Speaker 1: I guess what happened? They started winning. Yeah, I found Nebraska.
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, what do I want to go three
Speaker 1: and six or you know, three and eight? Or do
Speaker 1: I want to have a tough press conference? You know,
Speaker 1: it comes down to can you look the other way?
Speaker 1: A lot of times because what Urban got away with
Speaker 1: it Florida really inexcusable. But he did and they won. Yeah.
Speaker 1: More speaking of that, Urban Meyer was on campus to
Speaker 1: do interviews because Netflix is doing a documentary on those
Speaker 1: Florida teams, on the six and o eight Florida teams,
Speaker 1: so we'll see what happens as far as you know
Speaker 1: the stories about urban Meyer with that team alone. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean he brought in some really really shady characters
Speaker 1: there usually can coincides with a great winnings. True really
Speaker 1: shady talented characters. There. A couple of phone calls Andrew
Speaker 1: and Washington leeches off I Andrew, Oh Andrew got a
Speaker 1: Vell Crow wallet. Oh nope, row row. I think I
Speaker 1: thought it was a bad phone connection there. But that's
Speaker 1: that's your vel Row right there there. It is. It's
Speaker 1: five by three protective and sturdy. So um hey, yesterday
Speaker 1: that shack fitting in a Buick and ferminad oppressor bits
Speaker 1: that you guys, did you and seton? Those were classic,
Speaker 1: very funny. Um did have a trivia question for the room. Um, So,
Speaker 1: most passing yards by a quarterback in their first five seasons.
Speaker 1: Number one is Peyton Manning and number three is Dan Marino.
Speaker 1: One guests the second most passing yards in their first
Speaker 1: five seasons as a quarterback. Uh. I'm trying to think
Speaker 1: of a clue. Okay, He's come up on the show
Speaker 1: several times this week. You guys say he has a
Speaker 1: built in thirty for thirty. Already, no one, no guesses, Seeton,
Speaker 1: you got one. I was already half paying attention anyway.
Speaker 1: Oh oh well it's oh go ahead and give it
Speaker 1: to you. It's thirty for thirty. Jameis Winston has the
Speaker 1: second most passing yards in the first five seasons of
Speaker 1: his career all time. All right, well, thank you, Andrew.
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert is going to pass Jamis Winston. That's why
Speaker 1: we called it a third for thirty because he threw
Speaker 1: thirty touchdown passes thirty interception, so he is truly a
Speaker 1: thirty for thirty. Joe and ohio, Hi Joe, what's on
Speaker 1: your mind? Hi? How you doing? First time caller Hijoe
Speaker 1: and always wanted your opinion on do you think there's
Speaker 1: enough good players in the NFL to make all thirty
Speaker 1: two teams viable every year or do you think you're
Speaker 1: always going to have that top ten twelve teams that
Speaker 1: are going to dominate and not make it interesting by
Speaker 1: the end of the year. The NFL is relevant because
Speaker 1: they're in the NFL, like Baseball has a problem with
Speaker 1: being relevant, but not the NFL. I mean, the Bengals
Speaker 1: are relevant, and the Bengals you wouldn't have thought, like
Speaker 1: there are odds to win the Super Bowl last year
Speaker 1: were ten thousand to one. They were picked to finish
Speaker 1: last in the division. But if you go around the league,
Speaker 1: for the most part, you have like the Patriots have Belichick.
Speaker 1: They're always relevant because they have Belichick. Even the Lions
Speaker 1: with Dan Campbell's their head coach, they're relevant. You know
Speaker 1: they're on hard knocks. Carolina got Baker Mayfield. I don't
Speaker 1: know how good they are. You know, the Steelers have
Speaker 1: the Steeler tradition. They got T. J. Watt, Mike. So
Speaker 1: everybody if you're if you're looking at a team and
Speaker 1: you go, are they interesting? Now? If you say, these
Speaker 1: are the teams that are normally going to win. That's different.
Speaker 1: But as far as being relevant, it feels like once
Speaker 1: you're in the NFL, or you're a team in the NFL,
Speaker 1: or you coach in the NFL, you're relevant. You know,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys always going to be relevant, The Raiders are relevant,
Speaker 1: the Chargers Rams Seattle with Pete Carroll. Now, so sometimes
Speaker 1: it's the quarterbacks, sometimes it's the coach, sometimes it's both.
Speaker 1: You know, even the Saints with Jamis Winston are interesting
Speaker 1: because it's Jamis Winston. Now there's you know, varying degrees
Speaker 1: of our interest level there. You know, the Falcons are interesting. Well,
Speaker 1: they got Kyle Pitts, Drake London, maybe Desmond Ritard. I
Speaker 1: mean that one that could be one of those teams
Speaker 1: in three years from now we go here they come
Speaker 1: because you could have a quarterback that's really good, a
Speaker 1: wide receiver and a tight end. Now all of a
Speaker 1: sudden you get people's attention. But yeah, I would think
Speaker 1: now there's other sports where like NBA, there's certain teams
Speaker 1: and I brought them up before, like the Orlando Magic.
Speaker 1: Can you go, okay, is Franz Wagner still there? They
Speaker 1: got like, you know, it feels like eight seven footers
Speaker 1: there Mo bamba bamba, but not much after that. Who's
Speaker 1: Orlando's head coach? Scottie Skiles? You know I've got to
Speaker 1: get a point. I think I got. Yes, not Brian Hill, No,
Speaker 1: it's not not Billy Donovan here, No, he's not almost
Speaker 1: he almost came there. I don't know. I don't know
Speaker 1: his name, but he used to coach under Greg Popa
Speaker 1: Is that everybody did? Yeah? Is Popovich the original Sean
Speaker 1: mcveay where if if you were there the older Sean mcveay, Hey,
Speaker 1: I was there with pop All right, come on in,
Speaker 1: we're gonna hire you. Whoever can name the Magic's head
Speaker 1: coach first gets to eat first on Friday five four
Speaker 1: three two. I get to eat first on Friday. Yes,
Speaker 1: I was just cheering you. Oh you were thank you first. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make you know what the back room guys
Speaker 1: get to eat before you guys do on Friday. Yeah,
Speaker 1: how's that for you? Not very good? If that happens
Speaker 1: every time? We can't name lay Hey, let me take
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Speaker 1: seven seven three DP show Fritzie has a Sports Center tease,
Speaker 1: I do, Why don't we knock it out? Why don't
Speaker 1: we just get it over again? Just get it over with?
Speaker 1: Pull the band aid. Here we go Todd with his
Speaker 1: Sports Center teas coming up on Sports Center, Yankee Panky,
Speaker 1: How will Judge make out? Trying to match Maris Chucky
Speaker 1: was at the Touchdown Club, but he didn't score them
Speaker 1: any points. The Queen is back on the court. Can
Speaker 1: she extend her rain in? The Big Apple cuts like
Speaker 1: a knife? With final playbooks being turned in, who's going
Speaker 1: to take a stab at the Super Bowl, a prime
Speaker 1: opportunity to be a leader. Dion dealing with a major
Speaker 1: mess in Mississippi. It's a live labor day weekend. Does
Speaker 1: it take too much to watch them? An NBA All
Speaker 1: star shares his emotional struggles. Plus a jazz star gets
Speaker 1: anti social with Utah. But does that mean he's getting
Speaker 1: any closer to the garden? You know we're not going anywhere.
Speaker 1: Sports Center is next. Mm hmm. Got it went a
Speaker 1: little long there a couple of seconds. Man started good Panky,
Speaker 1: got a good response, Yankee panky, all right, thank you? Okay.
Speaker 1: Mississippi flood humor not always the not good. No, no,
Speaker 1: you probably got some got some real sluding issues about that.
Speaker 1: Look does that making fun of that sense? Oh? Yeah
Speaker 1: it is, Todd, I'm dealing with a major mess in Mississippi.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, Missippi, it's it's flooding. I'd probably have left that.
Speaker 1: It's a prime opportunity for him to be a leader.
Speaker 1: I know the hotel and away from is sort of
Speaker 1: a fun play on words. It wasn't meant to be
Speaker 1: means I feel bad. Okay, I'll get over it, but
Speaker 1: at this moment I feel bad. If well, nobody proofreads
Speaker 1: what you do with these sports entertises. That's part of
Speaker 1: the problem because I have told you, why don't you
Speaker 1: run them by Pauli, and then you go, well, PAULI
Speaker 1: will tell me not to the sports enterty. That particular
Speaker 1: sense wasn't meant to provide a chuckle. That was just
Speaker 1: part of the headline. Not every one of the lines.
Speaker 1: Most of them. I want them to be funny, but
Speaker 1: some of them are just legitimate topics of the day.
Speaker 1: Some of us have different difficult time figuring out which
Speaker 1: ones the funny ones are are. We just sort of
Speaker 1: all assume that they're meant to be funny. But but
Speaker 1: see you have you have a play on words with
Speaker 1: all of them. That's the problem. If you said, Dion
Speaker 1: dealing with the real issue in Mississippi and it's not
Speaker 1: football related, or how does that impact his football team,
Speaker 1: that's a straight line, and then you could get through it.
Speaker 1: Because I did three ms major mess in Mississippi that
Speaker 1: looked like I was trying to be cute, yes, and
Speaker 1: you were trying to be cute, not with the topic,
Speaker 1: just trying to make the sod don't It's okay, we
Speaker 1: move on, Okay, I feel like I got to write
Speaker 1: a letter now to it. No governor, No, see why
Speaker 1: do you do that? You go from Hey, how about
Speaker 1: I just my bad? Now I got to write a
Speaker 1: letter to the governor or miss No, no one said,
Speaker 1: God just means social media tweets. You know you did it? Okay,
Speaker 1: you just say you're sorry. Well can't you there's no
Speaker 1: clean water? Haha, that's great. Yeah, that's problem though, Like
Speaker 1: what are you doing? I don't know. I didn't find that.
Speaker 1: Just say it wasn't meant to be like, okay, you
Speaker 1: bad from Mississippi. They got borded you still you still
Speaker 1: said it. Todd's about two seconds away from saying I'm
Speaker 1: embarrassed and ashamed and what transpired with that sports center? Tiez? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's okay, well you know what, You're right, my bad,
Speaker 1: that's it. I'm sorry for those that took it that way. No,
Speaker 1: he just will you ever listen to me, because whenever
Speaker 1: something happens, you're like you go all the way to
Speaker 1: the very end, like the world. Okay, I gotta write
Speaker 1: a letter down. No, you just you made him. You
Speaker 1: know you shouldn't have put it in there that way
Speaker 1: because everything else is a play on words. It's meant
Speaker 1: to be fun. That's a serious issue. The flooding that's
Speaker 1: going on in Mississippi, that's all not I gotta write.
Speaker 1: No one said you gotta write a letter. No, that's
Speaker 1: not good. I'm glad we did it early in the show. Yes,
Speaker 1: out of the way or in the way. Now I've
Speaker 1: lost Fritzy for the next two hours. I try, I do,
Speaker 1: I try. I try to help you. What's poll question? Wait,
Speaker 1: went yankee panky? That was good? I will judge make
Speaker 1: out trunk to match marri No, no no, no, I got
Speaker 1: it out, make bake out hanky, yankee panky, make out
Speaker 1: to make sure I emphasize yes, stick to blue humor,
Speaker 1: avoid serious topic. Yeah, yes. Would you hire John Gruden
Speaker 1: to year coach? Right now? Seventy percent of the audience
Speaker 1: say no. Okay, depends on how desperate I am to
Speaker 1: revitalize a career, And there are a lot of coaches
Speaker 1: who have gotten chances, second chances. I certainly understand that.
Speaker 1: But John a college coach, is he more suited to
Speaker 1: being an NFL coach? But that's not going to happen.
Speaker 1: So I think he realizes if I'm going to get
Speaker 1: a job. It's going to have to be in college.
Speaker 1: Coming up, he's the new head coach of the Vikings.
Speaker 1: Kevin O'Connell will join his former Notre Dame quarterback Brady
Speaker 1: Quinn has a problem with Will Farrell. All of that
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